The Snack: Breakup Season, Rage Bait, and the Political Climate

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about: The best merch at the airport A confusing celeb breakup on social media Keke Palmer and Sean Evans smooch on Hot Ones Emmy highlights (and conspiracy theory) Rage bait advertising The current political climate Headlines: Coachella lineup, Taylor Frankie Paul as the new Bachelorette, Taylor Swift incognito at the Eagles/Chiefs game, Charlie Sheen doc Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Function: Our first 1000 listeners get a $100 credit toward your membership at https://functionhealth.com/gge, or use code GGE100. Saks Fifth Avenue: Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first order and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  This week on The Snack, breakup season is upon us and we are discussing rage bait advertising, the current political climate and more.

• 0:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.

• 0:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome back to another episode of The Snack. I just realized I bought you that hat. Oh, cute.

• 0:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 0:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been looking at that hat thinking like, I love that. And I was like, I bought that.

• 0:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did. Well, you know, it's funny because I brought the other one. It's like,

• 0:25Rayna Greenberg?

  you brought a backup hat in case you didn't want to wear the one I bought you?

• 0:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 0:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  So here's the tea on the hat. You got me this hat right before we moved to LA.

• 0:33Rayna Greenberg?

  The LA one that's on you.

• 0:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  It has my initials. I wish I was sitting to the side facing the camera because this is 47 and it does not mean the president. But to be very clear.

• 0:40Rayna Greenberg?

  It's funny.

• 0:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  What is the 47?

• 0:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Why does it say that?

• 0:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 0:44Rayna Greenberg?

  47?

• 0:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  You got me this like nice customized hat, but it comes down a little low in my ears.

• 0:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 0:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I can't really wear it with sunglasses. So I'm wearing it today.

• 0:53Rayna Greenberg?

  It does come down low.

• 0:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It comes down really low. So this is the other one that I bought in the airport.

• 0:59Rayna Greenberg?

  It looks a little dirty. What'd you get on it?

• 1:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a little dusty. Remember when I was in my airport shopping era? I couldn't stop. I was just buying so much airport merch.

• 1:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know, do you know how many times I've gotten off the plane in LAX and bought a $200 Spanx set?

• 1:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I've been wanting to talk about this. There is an-

• 1:14Rayna Greenberg?

  My shopping addiction?

• 1:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  An elite airport sweatshirt that I have the Boston one. I've worn it to record in. You guys have seen it in every airport. There's like-

• 1:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Just Boston?

• 1:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, every city.

• 1:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Airport merch in general is the best merch.

• 1:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll put it on the screen. It's like navy and white. It's navy. It usually says the name of the city across the chest and it's got like the white like stripes on the arms. And Megan has a Las Vegas one. I think it feels like it's this real, I don't know, flex of like where you've been or something. Like, obviously there's Los Angeles, there's New York. Like, they have them in every city and it's just like, everyone should have one. And I think we should all have to buy when they're not expensive. They're like $30.

• 1:57Rayna Greenberg?

  When you land in every city?

• 1:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, like you pick your city. Like, you ride for your city. Like-

• 2:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I've been meaning to ask you this because you know, I've been, I've been at the airport a lot lately. I've been in New York specifically a lot lately. I have really been like inching towards an I love New York sweatshirt. And I just, I want one. And I feel like,

• 2:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like I'm ready to wear it.

• 2:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:14Rayna Greenberg?

  And I, it used to be this like chubby thing and now there's some like,

• 2:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  At the airport.

• 2:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Now I want to get that New York air. Every time, every day, every other day when I'm at JFK, I walk by the Hudson News with the I Love New York sweatshirt and I'm just ready for it.

• 2:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  So the best mugs in the city are in the airport for I Love New York. So I have the bright yellow one. It's just, I love New York with a big heart. They have hot pink. They have, it's the perfect hot pink, hot yellow. I have a black and a yellow, one for me and my fiance. I bought them first, both. I was like, we need these in our collection. The best mugs at the airport, best magnets. But this sweatshirt, you guys know it. And if you're traveling this weekend, go look at what this very specific sweatshirt. I feel like I see them more and more and it feels like this message you're trying to send. Like, that's my city. And I mean, I don't know. I have Boston. I'm going to stick with Boston. I'm probably not going to do another one.

• 3:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you lived in New York for a long time. You have something in New York.

• 3:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  You pick us, pick one.

• 3:10Rayna Greenberg?

  New York's my city.

• 3:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's whatever you feel like you want to represent.

• 3:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, well.

• 3:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  For whatever reason.

• 3:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Elite marches. Is it Hudson News everywhere?

• 3:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't even know if it's the Hudson News. I really don't think it is. I think it's another airport shop. But you guys know the sweatshirt. It's navy and white. It's like, feels a little cheap, but it looks nice.

• 3:29Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll put it on my story when you shop my link.

• 3:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 3:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm going to pop into the airport and be like, do you guys do affiliates?

• 3:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Why not?

• 3:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 3:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I feel like Poshmark has healed my shopping addiction. I just need like a hit of something and like, that's the hit.

• 3:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Then you don't actually have to buy the thing.

• 3:49Rayna Greenberg?

  I do shop, I do Poshmark under a fake name, obviously.

• 3:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Because people that come to your house to pick up.

• 3:53Rayna Greenberg?

  No, you mail it.

• 3:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  No. Well, this is, also gets weird when you're kind of like a, A person in the world, a public figure, quote unquote, whatever. You guys know I don't call each other like celebrities by any stretch, but like when you want to like leave a review, like I had like a weird hotel experience and they weren't able to really kind of rectify the number of things that went wrong, but I was thinking like if they didn't, would I leave a review?

• 4:21Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 4:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 4:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Celebrities use fake, I have, I use a fake name on Poshmark, Uber. You know Uber is not my real name.

• 4:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, but it's all tied together. Like it's tied to my like hotels.com or my Google or whatever.

• 4:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Just change your name.

• 4:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm gonna do a fake account, start trolling.

• 4:35Rayna Greenberg?

  I love, so my Uber name, I'm not gonna tell you guys what it is, but I have a different Uber name. And every time an Uber pulls up and I'm with a new friend, they're like, hi, we're here for whatever. And it's just like this very cute little jump scare. People are like, what? Like, is she okay?

• 4:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, E, that's, it's.

• 4:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Like you guys know I like using fake names. I use the name Ashley everywhere I go. All right, we're gonna thank our partners and we're gonna get into it. Thank you to Function. Our first 1,000 listeners get a $100 credit towards your membership at functionhealth.com/gge or use the code GGE100. And Saxwith Avenue, head to Saxwith Avenue or sax.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style.

• 5:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to NutriFul. Get $10 off your first order and free shipping at nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Okay, so we're gonna kick it off with a breakup report.

• 5:19Rayna Greenberg?

  To kick off breakup season.

• 5:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  To kick off breakup season. So breakup season is September, October. So we're really in the kind of like the preseason.

• 5:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Right, this is pre games.

• 5:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's preseason. This is preseason. So some people are doing preseason breakups, but Rand and I did an episode a few years ago. I checked the date. I think it was October 4th. And everyone was breaking up from people we knew to celebrities. And it has really felt like that every year.

• 5:45Rayna Greenberg?

  And up until now this year, it hasn't had. So I Googled like, what were the big breakups in 2025 so far? Not a lot.

• 5:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're upon us.

• 5:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, it's a couple of like reality show people. There hasn't been really crazy breakups this year at all. I went through all of them, but now it's upon us.

• 6:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 6:02Rayna Greenberg?

  So this one was a real jump scare for me. So a few days, we're recording this, a few days ago, I see Chase Stokes, the star of the show Outer Banks.

• 6:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, wait, who is that again?

• 6:12Rayna Greenberg?

  He's the star of the show Outer Banks and he has been with Kelsea Ballerini for three years. And we know her from the first season of Southern Charm when Craig was trying to date her.

• 6:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is she a country singer?

• 6:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, but.

• 6:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 6:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm making a joke.

• 6:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Sorry. Sorry, guys. So it was either first or second season of Southern Charm. They're on like a ship doing like, um, this is such a throwback, like some charity thing.

• 6:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  First or second season?

• 6:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I think the second season and they're on some like ship in the harbor in Charleston.

• 6:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she's performing.

• 6:38Rayna Greenberg?

  She's performing and then they have to like, they have to raffle off some man and Craig like buys her.

• 6:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Before she was famous.

• 6:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Predates her big Hugh fame.

• 6:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is giving Lady Gaga on the Hills.

• 6:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I remember it.

• 6:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a real deep cut for the millennials, elder millennials. Lady Gaga was on the Hills.

• 6:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Lady Gaga was also in Gossip Girl.

• 6:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 6:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Performing at NYU in some dorm.

• 7:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm. Unreal.

• 7:01Rayna Greenberg?

  So I see Chase Stokes post this thing about Kelsea Ballerini turning 32. It's this roundup of photos. It's like 10 photos and it's really like intimate moments of them just like no makeup, stripped down in their home, just being like silly and cute. And I had this thought, like you almost never see celebrities like this post just like being tired going home from dinner or just like cooking at home. Like they were very like intimate moments. And I, I had this moment where I was like, what a sweet tribute to her. And two days later they broke up.

• 7:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, what are you saying?

• 7:30Rayna Greenberg?

  And like officially. Officially made the statement that they had broken up. Two days later, she made the statement that they broke up, which is like.

• 7:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  He didn't do enough for her birthday. He didn't appropriately celebrate her on her birthday. She didn't like the carousel.

• 7:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think he bought her like, okay, one of the worst things I think you can get a woman for her birthday is like a vacuum.

• 7:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not a Dyson, please. What amazing gift.

• 7:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, I'm gonna walk it back. If it's not a Dyson.

• 7:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Take it back immediately.

• 7:58Rayna Greenberg?

  One year my dad got my mom a soup tureen so she could cook more soup and she threw it at him.

• 8:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but what are you supposed to do when you're married? Like romantic little gifts. You wanna get him a kitchen gadget?

• 8:09Rayna Greenberg?

  I think a lot of people feel that it implies you should cook for me and you should clean for me.

• 8:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I think it's a little too easy to think it was about the birthday gift, even though I started that conversation. I mean, what else? I'm just saying, like, what else could it have been? This is crazy. You don't see this 48 hours.

• 8:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I assume most celebrities have broken up six to eight weeks prior to them announcing it. Cause people get back together, they wanna digest how they feel about things. I assume this has happened far in the past.

• 8:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  And. Other relationship markers like engagement, it's like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey didn't get engaged that day. It was like the week before. I mean, you wait a beat, you figure out with the messaging and then you post for the masses. So I am really curious of what happened here for two people I really don't know much about or care about.

• 8:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Right, sure. So

• 8:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I care now.

• 8:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Other conspiracy theories are that they had broken up and that he didn't want people to speculate that something was wrong. And I was like, let's hard stop that theory. I don't think he posted a carousel of 10 photos of their very private intimate moments because somebody might think Chase Stokes and Kelsey Baller. Like, they are not Taylor and Travis.

• 9:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but that doesn't even make any sense what to throw us off the scent.

• 9:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, who cares?

• 9:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, they're famous, not that famous, you know? So it was interesting. So I mean, I'm assuming something happened in like the 48 hours. Like, what could it be besides cheating? But she has not confirmed or denied.

• 9:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. Well, let us know your guys' theories in the comments. And if you've ever broken up two days after your birthday with somebody or their birthday.

• 9:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't think I have. No.

• 9:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm sure me and my ex did, but we broke up every 48 hours anyway.

• 9:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Just for fun.

• 9:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just for fun.

• 9:56Rayna Greenberg?

  And then the other breakup was Nina Dobrev and Sean White. And I really just like loved them as a couple. They've been together five and a half years. They were engaged. They were building a house together, putting out a lot of content about it. And then she put out some stuff that people were saying was a little cryptic, which I don't agree. She just did a voiceover of like, I don't know her name. She's that old lady that does stuff like, all men are gonna let you down. So pick the richest one. Do you know what I'm talking about? You guys, I'm sorry. I don't know her name. She's so cool.

• 10:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, Nina Dobrev is an actress and Sean White is an Olympic snowboarder.

• 10:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Is that right? Maybe. Is he a snowboarder or a skateboarder?

• 10:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not, no, he's Winter Olympics. But he is a skateboarder also right now. So but he is a three time Olympic gold medalist.

• 10:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so one of those things like sort of

• 10:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  In snowboarding.

• 10:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 10:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's won 10 ESPY Awards, whatever. He's, he's a big deal. And I just liked them. I've always liked him. I like her. I don't know them personally, but I really was upset to hear that one.

• 10:51Rayna Greenberg?

  And I was bummed. And also, all the headlines are like Nina Dobrev is reportedly devastated about the breakup. That's what I see every headline. I haven't seen one headline about him being upset. And it's like, I think it's weird to like, call out just the woman.

• 11:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Also, like, I am sure they both are upset. They were engaged.

• 11:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. Some relationships just run their course. I don't know. So.

• 11:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so they're kicking off breakup season. I have a couple that I want to get together. And so here's the couple that I am shipping to get together. And I don't know if you saw this, but Sean Evans from Hot Ones and Kiki Palmer.

• 11:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't he married?

• 11:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I hope not. Kiki Palmer just kissed him on his show. I guess he said he had a crush on Kiki Palmer during that chicken shop date.

• 11:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 11:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  And they told her on Watch What Happens Live. And they both just reacted really cutely. So she just went on Hot Ones and they did a little kiss. They did a little smooch.

• 11:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so he does not have a wife? I don't know why that is. So you and I saw him speak at South by Southwest this year and I was like, he's so cute. And then I thought that he had a wedding ring on, but maybe I just told myself that because I didn't get to say hi to him.

• 12:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's how you comforted yourself?

• 12:03Rayna Greenberg?

  No, but I really, I really ship this. I think he's just like, so unassuming, but like such a good speaker. He's so fun. She's so spicy. Like, I love it.

• 12:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  She is my absolute favorite. She is great energy all the time. Any, I mean, I follow her, but any clip that comes to my feed, I have to watch. I love everything she says. I loved, recently, she was going viral talking about dating and women, like, successful women, the type of pressure people put on them to date a certain type of man. And even just recently, she was going off about a jammy egg. Like, I just love her. I adore her. Everything she does. I was seeing her, she was doing a streaming. With Kai Sennett, the like streamer and his boys were in the room and thought she was Mary J Blige. And they were like, my mom loves you. And she's, they started singing Real Love. She just like joined in, started singing it like I, she never misses.

• 12:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you love her.

• 12:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, I really.

• 12:54Rayna Greenberg?

  You say to me like every three months why we had her on the show yet.

• 12:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm a huge fan. If anyone knows. I know, we've been trying to get her on, but I don't know. I mean, this is just a funny thing, but I like that they kissed.

• 13:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And if you guys don't know, Hot Ones, it started as this YouTube show, I mean, it still is one, where Sean Evans has all these celebs on to eat all of these like spicy wings and see like the highest level they can reach. And the craziest episode that anybody's ever seen is Ariana Grande.

• 13:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ariana Grande.

• 13:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, she reached the tip top level. And it's funny, most people get to like the second or third wing and they can't speak. They're choking.

• 13:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, chugging milk.

• 13:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Tears running down their eyes. It is the funniest show. And it's like, what a good way to meet somebody romantically.

• 13:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. She does, Ariana Grande, you have to watch her. She doesn't even flinch. Like you're like, that's, she can't be a human. So here's their clip.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  You said like, I was your favorite guest, you know, and all this really sweet stuff. And I know we just had some wings, but I thought that maybe we could just have a quick smooch to see if there's a spark.

• 13:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let's do it. Let's do it.

• 13:47Rayna Greenberg?

  They like get up?

• 13:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 13:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm shook by this.

• 13:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm feeling it.

• 13:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Sexy.

• 14:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, this is, Travis and Taylor coded where they've both been in interviews, been asked about the other, actually, I don't know, did anyone ever ask Taylor? But like Travis had been interviewed about her prior, like, it's just like, they both kind of knew that there was a crush, his crush. And then if they're both single, they eat a bunch of wings and have a spicy little kiss.

• 14:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm into this. You know, I love him. And he's just like, he's bald. He's hot to me. He's fun. I just, I love it.

• 14:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So that's the couple that we want to see while all these others are breaking up. Circle of life. Okay. So the Emmys.

• 14:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So the Emmys were this past Sunday night. Oh, congrats to all the winners.

• 14:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Now, is that music? I'm kidding.

• 14:41Rayna Greenberg?

  You thought it was the Grammys?

• 14:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm kidding, I'm kidding. If you listened last week, I got a little twisted up.

• 14:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, there's a lot of award shows and I was trying to remember, like, I was like so positive that Nikki hosted the Emmys and it took me a while to be like, what did she host? The Golden Globes. The Golden Globes, but then like the Oscars or the Academy Awards, like that's the same thing?

• 15:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, the Oscars and the Academy Awards.

• 15:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I mean, like, why is there two?

• 15:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  The statue itself.

• 15:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Why is there two names?

• 15:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so stupid.

• 15:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, and it's just like, I'm always like, award season, but like, the, what'd you say Nikki hosted?

• 15:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  The Golden Globes.

• 15:15Rayna Greenberg?

  The Golden Globes were in February, like, why are the Emmys in September?

• 15:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't care.

• 15:20Rayna Greenberg?

  How do we decide, like, when is what? Like, what is the fiscal year for television shows? Versus movies, versus music? Like, what are we judging?

• 15:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and then sometimes an album or a TV show or a movie will win an award and you're like, that was five years ago. Like, that's how it feels, because it was at the start of the fiscal year for that award show. But we talked about the host and Nate Bargatze, and we'll get to it, but like, I like Nikki hosting the Golden Globes, because those are movie actors and I think they take themselves way more seriously, so I like her roasting them. Like, I actually wouldn't want Nikki hosting the Emmys, because those are the coolest people, or the Grammys. Like, I like her doing movie actors, because they're the ones that take themselves so seriously. The Emmys are typically my fave in terms of the stuffy ones, outside of the VMAs and shit like that, because I, it's TV, and I watch more TV. And typically, it's been shows that I love, like Hacks and The Bear,

• 16:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  just sweep, and I love to see that. Which was not the case this year. It was The Studio, Seth Rogen's show, and then Hacks did win, and the other one, The Pit, won a lot, yeah. I didn't watch it, I had shows in San Diego, so I just kind of saw the clips.

• 16:30Rayna Greenberg?

  And people had sort of mixed reviews about Nate Bargatze's performance. I always think he's funny. I think, you know, it was his first time hosting. What they did, though, was this interesting thing, if you, I'm sure you guys have seen it, but they put basically a ticker clock on people's acceptance speeches, and he opened the show by saying that he was gonna donate a hundred thousand dollars to the-

• 16:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Boys and Girls Club.

• 16:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you. And then, for anybody whose acceptance speech goes over forty-five seconds, a thousand dollars per second was gonna come off of that. And then anybody that goes under $1,000 per second will go on top of that. And there was a ticker on screen for every single person. I mean, it was so wild to watch.

• 17:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  So again, like, I didn't watch it because you watch it. You know, and only one of us needs to be authorized to speak on something. But that's why there's two of us. We divide up the workload. But I didn't realize the ticker was on the screen. And could the person see it? Like, just the viewer at home?

• 17:24Rayna Greenberg?

  No, so the person could see it. And so like Hannah Einbender, who's the most iconic speech of the night.

• 17:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Go Birds, fuck ICE, free Palestine, just mic drop.

• 17:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And she got up there and she's the star of Hacks and we love that show and her. And as the ticker was running, she goes, I don't care, I'll pay it. And I was like, yes, go off. Like, I just, I loved it so. She was like, I don't want to wrap up. I will, I'll just pay for this, okay? And I was like, okay, bad bitch. And then dropped the greatest speech of the night.

• 17:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  The way she got that in, in those final moments, I was like, oh my God. Like, I had shows in San Diego. I got offstage and like my feed was Hannah Einbender, Go Birds, Fuck ICE, Free Palestine. I was like, oh my goodness. She did, she did it all.

• 18:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought there was like really, there were some sweet speeches, people thanking their parents. The kid from Adolescence 2013, he gave a speech. It was adorable. I, I have a lot of conspiracy theories today. My conspiracy theory on this, and I don't know, it's unprecedented to tell all of these famous people who've worked really hard on a project with a giant cast and crew to like wrap that shit up in 45 seconds. I mean, you tell a 13 year old that like he, I mean, what a huge accomplishment that this child won. I mean, anybody to win an Emmy is a huge accomplishment. We've never really seen this before. And I hate to be like this crazy conspiracy theorist, but it feels like the network was a little concerned about what all these people would say. Tensions are very, very high right now and continue to be politically and that they

• 18:50Rayna Greenberg?

  were just like, let's just clip them.

• 18:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think you might be right. That being said.

• 18:59Rayna Greenberg?

  They do get a little long-winded.

• 19:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I am not talking about when people use it to make a political statement. I love that shit. I'm like, go over, you know, do all the things. I think of Chapel Rohn talking about healthcare and, you know, just various ones we've seen over the past few years especially. And I love to see it and I love them using that platform for that. I hate the self-indulgent. Just, just droning on. Um, Adrian Brody. You know, like, there's a difference.

• 19:30Rayna Greenberg?

  But he gave us such, I mean, he threw gum at his wife.

• 19:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So I am curious what the conversations looked like. They did do it in a light humorous manner. I liked Nate Bargatze talking about it. It was funny to me. He was like, these are the rules of the game that I made up. You know, I don't make the rules or, you know, it was of this game that we, whatever he said was funny. And it makes the whole show run over. And I get it. As someone who also performs and there's like curfews and timelines involved and no one hates when you're at a comedy show and people are blowing the light and you're there three hours because people just had to, you know, um,

• 20:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Get their tags in?

• 20:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like run over the clock. But I'm curious. I don't think you're wrong.

• 20:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, it sort of reminded me almost of the US Open a few weeks ago when Donald Trump wanted the network to bleep him getting booed and the network-

• 20:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Free speech, though.

• 20:26Rayna Greenberg?

  And but the network was like, well, this is, what is North Korea and Kim Jong-un?

• 20:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is it?

• 20:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe. Yeah, we're headed towards it. But, um, I don't think that like from that request to this is that far of a stretch.

• 20:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And but it's interesting because the really outspoken individuals like Hannah Einmender are gonna see your 45 seconds and say the thing she needs to say in three seconds flat. You know what I mean? Like, it would incite me more to be like, all right, I'll keep it short.

• 20:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Brevity, got it.

• 20:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'll keep it real short. Six words.

• 21:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I wonder if she like heard that in the moment, sitting in her seat and she was like, "I got this. Forty-five seconds, I need one-third of that."

• 21:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  So yeah, that's pretty much your Emmy's recap. I mean, the fashion, of course, I liked Meg, Megan Stalter and her jeans and a tee.

• 21:21Rayna Greenberg?

  She had sunglasses on, she said, "I didn't want anybody to recognize me."

• 21:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  But she had wore a bag, it said ceasefire. I mean, people made political statements also. On the, on the red carpet, there was some of that. I hate to say it, Sydney Sweeney did look great.

• 21:34Rayna Greenberg?

  Not for me.

• 21:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really?

• 21:35Rayna Greenberg?

  We get it, with your big ass titties, we get it.

• 21:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I love red.

• 21:40Rayna Greenberg?

  I love red too.

• 21:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love a red gown.

• 21:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I am, no one would ever be like, you know, I really want Raina's fashion advice. Like, I'm, I'm not a fashion commentator, but it wasn't for me.

• 21:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 21:50Rayna Greenberg?

  It's just, I'm just, I'm also like Sydney Sweeney overload.

• 21:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Totally. Yeah, no, I'm not a fan.

• 21:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like the look.

• 22:00Rayna Greenberg?

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• 22:44Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 23:26Rayna Greenberg?

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• 23:47Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 24:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Khloe's was like really young and it was the funniest reaction. She was jumping around the house. She was screaming like she had just won an Emmy. You know, it was crazy. But we've heard about this. We went on Ali Luber's podcast recently. She was talking about it. Hers was very low as well, but it'll basically tell you what your biological age is and then you can put that on your dating apps. If it's younger, no, I'm kidding, but um, you know, whatever you want to do, they'll tell you what it is, based on things like stress and they'll also check your stress levels, your liver, your kidneys, your pancreas, your blood, of course, electrolytes, urine, brain health and your allergies and sensitivities. I think that's really important. I think a lot of people have sensitivities they may not even know about, or they may not even, I mean, even sometimes I eat certain foods. I'm like, I don't feel my best afterwards.

• 25:14Rayna Greenberg?

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• 25:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, like I just, and in my, as I'm getting older, I mean, I can't really do ice cream in large quantities like I used to be able to. I feel really bloated and so I might have some sort of dairy intolerance. And Rain and I are going to get all this done. We're really excited. We have our appointments set up and so I can't wait for them to tell me that I am at 23 years old biologically.

• 25:34Rayna Greenberg?

  You're shooting for 23, okay. All right, I'll shoot for 21.

• 25:37Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:34Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:53Rayna Greenberg?

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• 27:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so let's chat about rage bait.

• 27:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was rage bait right there. Did you guys tense up at hearing it? Rage bait, it's a, it's a hot topic. It's a hot topic in all of media, advertising, politics, pop culture, all of it.

• 28:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so much advertising recently seems to just be like this thing that it's not even really like about the brand. It's just like, I can't believe this happened in this ad. And obviously, the, the primary example of that is the Sydney Sweeney, American Eagle ads, where she says, I have great jeans. And this spun into a whole controversy of what did they really mean by this? And it almost didn't even matter what they were selling. American Eagle has not been on the tongues of this many people in the history of time. It wouldn't matter what they were selling. And it almost begs the question of, does it even matter what they're selling? They just, did they make something just to make people feel crazy?

• 28:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, I think this is also something that's been happening as long as we can remember. And then sometimes we look back and we're like, was that just rage bait? Or was that a sign of the times? And you think of like Brooke Shields, Calvin Klein ads that feel like so inappropriate today. And just, I mean, Kim Kardashian is the top of the list when you talk about this. And the recent like Face Shaper, you know, people were furious. Like, what the fuck is this? We talked about it on the snack and it sold out immediately. So it does work.

• 29:13Rayna Greenberg?

  So the most recent thing actually happened today as we were recording it. And MAC Cosmetics posted on their Instagram, a photo of Kris Jenner. I guess she was going to be in an ad for them. And clear across this photo, it says for internal use only, just over and over and over again. And right under it, Kris Jenner comments, check your DMs right now, who leaked this? Two question marks. And

• 29:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which feels so like obvious, it's a stunt.

• 29:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, the headline says Kris Jenner freaks out over leaked MAC campaign photos. She's about to take y'all out. It's like, this is so obvious to me that this was on purpose. Kris, Kris Jenner herself

• 29:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 29:48Rayna Greenberg?

  is going to publicly be like, someone get in touch with me.

• 29:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 29:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Get the fuck out of here.

• 29:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  In the comments. Yeah.

• 29:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm sure she doesn't have a team of people working for her, 100 people working for her, that are going to contact MAC Cosmetics for her.

• 30:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, and to me, this is just feels like a little bit more of a stunt than like rage. Like, who's really going to get rage enraged about that? But, I mean, the most recent examples are, like Raina said, American Eagle, the Kim Kardashian Face Shapewear, and Elf Beauty partnering with Matt Rife. People were upset about that as well. And it's just like, Are there people sitting around knowing that this will incite rage and lead them to more exposure, which is kind of, I mean, you hate to hear about, like, you're just like, oh, and then I'm buying into this and I'm, I'm part of the problem and we're talking about it on this podcast. All the while, they're like laughing all the way to the bank.

• 30:39Rayna Greenberg?

  It will not make me purchase that product.

• 30:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I don't feel like I fall into that camp, but we still talk about it. Like, we're part of the discussion. And I was reading this article, this was in Glamour UK, from Kardashians face shapewear to Sydney Sweeney's jeans controversy is everything rage bait now. And I just really like the quote. It says, so what do we do? Focus on changing and challenging systems, not individuals. We can hold public figures and brands accountable, but we don't have to take the bait every time. Avoid engaging with troll accounts and bad faith actors whose only aim is to rile you up. Act with your wallet. Don't buy from brands that rely on rage bait marketing. Avoid attending concerts and refrain from supporting public figures who exploit culture or politics to gain attention. Don't vote for politicians who weaponize identity and outrage for views. Rage bait is powerful,

• 31:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  but its influence relies on us playing along. And this will lead us into a discussion, a further discussion, because I think about this a lot. And I have unfollowed accounts, specifically political ones, that they are providing factual information, but the headlines are purposely inflammatory and can feel like clickbait and can feel misleading. And I have a huge problem with this. You know, like, a lot of times, you, you read the article and it is, is factual, but they really pulled something out of context to get the, the eyeballs. And this is on both sides.

• 32:01Rayna Greenberg?

  No, this is on both sides. I find this a lot, specifically with the Huffington Post and the Washington Post, two accounts that I follow. And I like, I like the articles they put out, but I find their, their headlines to be specifically inflammatory sometimes to a point where I'm like, whoa.

• 32:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I'm like, I don't need to feel like that. And with this president and administration and Supreme Court, need I go on? You don't need it. You can

• 32:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Stress out enough.

• 32:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't need, but you don't need the clickbait is my point. Like you can write every single headline in the style of the completely unbiased wire news, like AP or Reuters or whatever, and it will still be horrifying. You know, for the most part, like you don't, you don't need it. And like, I'm just like, ah, it bothers me and it bothers me also from a progressive person's standpoint of like, these are the outlets that I stand behind their value system, but like, we don't have to do it like this. And it's not everybody, but I, there was one account where I was like, I actually, I can't follow this. I know what they're, what they're trying to do.

• 33:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But I think that that's a lot of people's complaints about all the news.

• 33:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 33:12Rayna Greenberg?

  All news is that it's rage baiting on both sides. That the headlines and the clips are so inflammatory and it gets people so upset and it preys on people that are maybe not that educated and aren't going to dig a little bit deeper for the actual information. And that is really dangerous and it'll descend upon like one little part of like a topic and explode it. And people are so mad about that.

• 33:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, like, and I, a lot of times I will take the headline and read the article to dissect it and figure out how they got there. And I'm like, it's not false. You know, like there is a certain, certainly a side of the media that is just lies, that is just blatant, false misinformation. Like it's not that, it's just the way it was structured to evoke a certain type of reaction and it's, it feels irresponsible to me and it couldn't be me. But this is with everything. This is with celebrity news as well. It's not just politics. I mean, I have a lot of problems with a lot of media outlets and the way that they write stuff. I mean, and Rain and I have done articles and we're not even on the scale of celebrity politicians, everything that's really happening at that level. But like we, stuff is taken out of context for, for views.

• 34:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I cannot believe how many times we've done an interview for an hour and they will descend upon one tiny little thing.

• 34:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or the headline.

• 34:26Rayna Greenberg?

  For the headline.

• 34:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  So misleading.

• 34:28Rayna Greenberg?

  What was that one? It said something like, I don't want to call it real specifically, but it said something like, you know, about me like loving being single or something.

• 34:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't remember how they framed it. It was sort of insulting. And you know, this is, I don't want to come across like I'm on a high horse, but I don't want to do this. It doesn't feel authentic to me and we could do it way more. We could do it with the way we title episodes and the what we pull for reels. Like I just sometimes, I don't, everyone be misleading and I don't want to invite negative reactions just for engagement. And that's what it is. It all comes down to all press is good press and we don't operate like that. And we always say this, maybe we would be more popular if we did, but it doesn't sit right with me to do that. Cause we will go back and forth sometimes on an episode title or on this or on that.

• 35:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like, you know, it would be a little more click worthy, but it doesn't feel accurate or like even something that the guest would want sometimes in some cases. So I just, I liked this post on Sharon Says So, who was like such a wonderful follow. And it was quotes from Carlos Whitaker. She says, wisdom from my dear friend. And it's about a rage being a drug. And it says, there's a new drug people have not only become addicted to, but we've become junkies too. And it's rage and the needle is the thing you're reading this on. So it is your device and you may have accidentally become addicted to rage. The thing I want you to do is step away from this device and see if the rage is still there. Anger can be there, sadness can be there, but rage should go away. And if you come back to this needle and you start scrolling and you start to feel the rage again,

• 36:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  that is an extremely important indicator that what you are injecting into your body and into your heart and mind and soul is rage. And we were not created with the capacity to consume the amount of rage that we consume. And I appreciate the sentiment and I agree with it, but I, regardless of the rage bait, regardless of what I'm seeing in my feet, I am enraged. And I'm trying to figure it out, how to manage it. And this will like lead us into our next conversation, but it's like, this is how you have to.

• 36:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Decide how to consume social media and the news for your own mental health because we cannot be enraged all the time.

• 36:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, and I think that you and I spent a, we're gonna talk a little bit about Charlie Kirk and it would feel totally inauthentic to Ashley and I to never speak on this at all and we're gonna try to be respectful, but I've had to really put my phone down a lot in the last week. I've had a really hard time being on the internet and seeing so much rage and so much inflammation and the internet has just been a really like inflamed place right now in the world and, you know, we want to speak about things because we know that you guys want to hear what we have to say and we don't want everyone to shy away from that and I do want to just sort of start this by saying, you know, what happened to him last week is horrible and I don't want to live in a country where people are shot at work for expressing opinions, whether I believe in their opinions or not,

• 37:25Rayna Greenberg?

  which I do not, but I don't want to live in a country where you are shot for your opinions and any young woman or child that loses their spouse or their parent, I mourn for them and I feel like that's terrible and I don't wish that upon anybody, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I agreed with his ideals and his beliefs because I didn't.

• 37:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, dozens of kids get shot at school every year. I don't, this is not the America I want to live in. I have been screaming this on my, since you guys have known me, which feels like into the void often because nothing has changed. Like, yes, of course, like shot because of your beliefs or because you're just at school or you're at the grocery store, you're at a parade, any of this. I mean, it goes without saying. That is not the America I want to live in. That's not anything I would ever celebrate. Ray and I have been sitting here for, I mean, an hour, two hours trying to decide how to speak about this and it's been a struggle. Like, I have been struggling with

• 38:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  how to articulate the way I've been feeling nonstop around the clock since this happened and the response to it and what it has done to this country that was already so divided.

• 38:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I'm still, I'm not sure, you know, I think that I want to express my opinions. I want to express them passionately and I want people to feel seen and heard and understood. And I want to be this voice that we always have been, but I also want to feel safe. And I also want to protect my mental health and I also want to make sure I get it right as much as I can. And I think we will say what we have to say today and maybe we will revisit some of these conversations, but I just want to be transparent with you guys. That if you feel like we're not, I don't know, saying something you thought we would,

• 39:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  like, there's probably a reason behind, I don't know, I mean, it's just, it's tough. And people are getting doxxed and they're getting fired and the Vice President is saying, if you don't appropriately mourn this, you should be fired from your job. Those are his words. And so, there's that. And, I don't know, this has been tough. And it's been on my mind constantly. This has felt like the darkest time since, I feel, I don't know, it's hard to say. Like, we've had these really bouts of darkness. I mean, the inauguration with the fires and then the ICE raids and just, it goes up and

• 40:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  down and you'll feel like there's a little bit of relief, but you know terrible things are still happening right outside your door. And this has felt really dark. And I was watching Scott Galloway talk on a clip this morning, he was like, this feels different and this feels really ominous for the country. And I feel that as well and I really try so hard not to be so doomsday and alarmist, but it feels very alarming and it feels different. And the response to it from the President and other of our political leaders has...

• 40:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Been pretty horrific in terms of furthering the divide and just fully blamed the left before a suspect was even in custody, saying terrible things that aren't true and really just driving this wedge even deeper between the two sides of this country. Based on what?

• 41:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't want to further the divide. And you know, I made all these notes about Charlie Kirk's content and I'm not gonna, I don't have to speak on it. You can go to his account, cherry pick anything that you want.

• 41:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, you've seen and heard every take there is.

• 41:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Every take on the planet. But I think that what's sort of hard to digest is you have JD Vance going on Charlie Kirk's former podcast and saying, you know, if you hear people in the world not appropriately mourning this, call their employers, dox them, do all these things to them. I think that some people just feel like this is much ado about one person, but what about the school shooting that day in Colorado? What about Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband getting shot? And then you have, and killed, and you have Donald Trump on national television saying, I don't know who that is and I didn't know anything about that. But, but why? Because she didn't support, she wasn't your constituency. And there's so many people in this country that

• 41:56Rayna Greenberg?

  have been terrorized and marginalized or being politically victimized. And why aren't we also mourning them at this level?

• 42:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, there are so many different aspects of this. And like Raina mentioned, Melissa Hortman, she was the Minnesota House Speaker. Her and her husband and their dog were shot in their home. And then the killer, who was very clearly politically motivated, they were Democrats, obviously, went and shot two more Democrats and they survived it. And he had a list of 10 plus more. And I also don't want to be in the business of, but what about in terms of what people choose to care about and amplify. I get enough of that in my DMs. I think we need to stop policing people in what they want to care about because terrible things happen every day. We don't have the capacity to take them all in. But it needs to be said, it does need to be said, that if we want to talk about political violence,

• 42:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  a House rep and her husband and their dog were just murdered in their, their home.

• 42:55Rayna Greenberg?

  In June.

• 42:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  And the president is claiming he didn't know about it. He didn't lower the flags for them. And this person, this media personality is being treated like a war hero.

• 43:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  And is that the goal is to enrage people even more and further the divide? Because that's how it feels.

• 43:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I've seen a lot of people speak out and say stuff this week like, well, I've never spoken about politics before and I feel the need to. And I think so many of us value life and oppose violence. I think that that goes without saying that the average person feels like this. Ashley and I feel like this. I think what happened this week is terrible. However, the outrage and compassion seems very selective towards who we are giving it towards. If the President of the United States didn't even know that this woman was shot and killed in her house, but this amount of outrage is given to one person. It's just, it's highly selective and you must ask yourself why.

• 43:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it feels very ominous. And again, I was, Scott Calley I was talking about and then Chris Murphy from Connecticut was speaking about that this is the moment that they've been waiting to completely demonize the left and like really light the spark of this authoritarian state that we're on the brink of. I hate to sound like I am so dramatic, but that's how it feels, like the hateful rhetoric and the threats and the threats against our freedom of speech. Who are these, the people that have always said they've advocated for it?

• 44:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought this was the freedom of speech, freedom of everything.

• 44:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 44:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Party.

• 44:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Like it, this president and now the people who prop him up like have forever changed this country, you know, prior to this, it's like these, our leaders spoke with respect and their messaging during these dark times were about peace and unity, not about war and threats. And it's really scary and I hate that it's become normalized and that the people who are like, ah, peace and love and no violence are also the people that are like encouraging the... Kidnapping and torturing of immigrants, making jokes about them dying at Alligator Alcatraz. Like, how can you call yourself a Christian and say you care about love and the kids with a straight face when that's on the other side of it?

• 45:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think that your kindness has to extend to all victims on any side. And we can't appear to be cherry picking some victims that were more important than other victims. And Donald Trump said, I'm not, I'm not taking, misquoting this, it's, or out of context, he said, "If I had to lower the flag for every person that died, the flag would never be up." And it's like, but you are doing it for this one person. And it is sending the message that this person is more deserving of not only your respect, but even no, you don't know about this other stuff happening in your government.

• 45:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and you know, I, I tread lately on the selective outrage, too. And that's the same as the, but what about? Because we are allowed to care about some things and not care about others. You know, we are allowed to care more about one of these things than this thing. And, you know, that's what I'm saying. I don't like that when people jump down your throat about it. But the president and these lawmakers set the tone and it trickles down. And that's what's creating so much hate and division.

• 46:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so, I don't know, we wanted to address it. You guys know that we try to not shy away from stuff. There's just, there's a huge news cycle about this every single day. I think tensions are really high, but we do want to speak on it in as much of a respectful way as humanly possible.

• 46:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, it's just, I'm trying so hard. This stuff gets at me all the time. I mean, like, prior to this, like, the thing, I'm on a loop, is like, I just can't believe so many people in this country, like, call themselves Christians and they're, like, they're really advocating for so much hate and violence. And the storm into the Capitol, all those people got pardoned. Some of them are child molesters. You know, like, how can you know this information and still support this administration? And I, I just, I, I wish people would think more deeply about it. I don't know, I wish, I don't know where all the, the brainwashing came in and, you

• 47:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  know, people were so vulnerable to really, like, this, this cult-like following of someone who was, has created... Such a divide and you know Charlie Kirk, he hated the word empathy. He said it was this woke thing and that's the thing I just want people to have more of. Like really, when it comes to anything, like as part of the bigger picture, when it comes to an immigrant that wants to come here for a better life, you know, when it comes to vulnerable people needing healthcare, even though that might not be you, like can we just try to have some empathy, you know, when it comes to kids getting shot at school, like can, can we all admit now that guns are a problem, you know, can we all get on

• 47:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  board with this, like can we just try to like have some empathy for each other, even if whatever we're talking about doesn't directly affect you now.

• 48:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, if you guys aren't satisfied with what we said about this, that's fine. You know, I, I think it's hard, it's hard to discuss this. There are a million thoughts swirling in my mind, it's on my mind constantly. I told Raina, I feel like I'm living this double life where I'm doing shows and making people laugh and I'm with my fiance and I'm planning a wedding and a special and we announced our shows and it's like all these fun things and I'm, I don't feel like that on the inside and I think a lot of people are, are struggling with that and it's like, I don't want to bury my head in the sand, of course, but I'm just kind of like, I am trying to strike the balance and some we've talked about plenty.

• 48:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know where the balance is sometimes because no matter what you say, you are going to insult people. I don't think that every person on the right is a brainwashed idiot. I certainly don't subscribe to that. I understand that a lot of people think I'm a brainwashed idiot and that's fine. I'm part of a different news cycle than those people are a part of and I think that people vote for what they think is going to make their life better, easier, help them to save money, raise their kids, be safe. If this is what you voted for, you thought that's what was, I, I don't know, I can't hate every person that voted for this. I, I don't want to vilify all those people. It certainly don't, I have not seen anybody and it's not come across my desk that anybody is celebrating this murder of this man. I'm sure it is out there. I don't, that's not what I've consumed.

• 49:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  If people are celebrating this or mocking this, I mean, there's always going to be that on any side of this, but there's a huge spectrum, you know, there's far left, there's far right, there's people who will mock the death of someone on the right, someone on the left. I mean, and then there's the majority of us who reside in the middle. And so I'm sure that exists on the internet, just like it probably exists on the internet for Melissa Horman or whoever. And it's just, so it's like you, you probably have, someone listening to this probably has examples to cite, but you would regardless, like there is always going to be some of those bad apples and that doesn't reflect the majority of people.

• 50:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 50:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  So.

• 50:03Rayna Greenberg?

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• 50:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 50:47Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 51:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, and this episode is brought to you by Saks Fifth Avenue. We made it, guys. So, shopping at Saks makes it really like fun and easy to enhance your seasonal wardrobe. Obviously for the fall, they have tons of brands and really trendy styles. But the thing that I've been shopping on there for is a dress for your wedding.

• 52:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cool.

• 52:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I just feel like I see the same dresses on every like influencer girly like at every single wedding and I just, I want something like really so special and elegant. And I have been shopping at Saks, I mean, since I have my bat mitzvah outfits from there.

• 52:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 52:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I remember when like I was a kid, I was 13, my mom took me to buy my bat mitzvah dress there and it was like such a treat. It's such like an amazing shopping experience.

• 52:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, they're so fancy. Can't imagine that.

• 52:34Rayna Greenberg?

  It's my bat mitzvah, actually. But they, I mean, they really have everything. Um, there is one particular dress that I am looking at. It's, um, I won't tell you, it's this like shoulder drape gown dress that I might wear to your wedding and they have tons of stuff just for like day to day and for work, obviously purses, all the way up to like really expensive brands, but stuff for day to day as well.

• 52:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, I have been on the hunt for the perfect wedding shoe. I have now done four unboxings. I have filmed every one just to be like, maybe it's the one and then I just have to throw it in the trash. So maybe one day you guys will see it, but I ordered a pair from Saks, so we'll see if they make the cut. But I like the range too. Like I'm even looking at shoes right now. So of course you have your Louboutins and then you have your shoots, shoots, shoots, shoots.

• 53:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Shoots.

• 53:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shoots.

• 53:17Rayna Greenberg?

  S-C-H-U-T-Z, those are boots we like.

• 53:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  S-C-H-U-T-Z for a hundred bucks, 120 bucks for heels, for boots. Yes, we both have these boots we're obsessed with. So you really can see the range. I mean, you have Tory Burch to Dolce and Gabbana, to Jimmy Choo, and of course, obviously much more affordable styles as well. They really do have it all.

• 53:35Rayna Greenberg?

  So if you're like me and Ashley and you're looking for just like shopping to be fun, easy, want new trends, head to Saks Fifth Avenue for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style every day.

• 53:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's just run through a few quick headlines and we will send you guys on your way.

• 53:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so last night Coachella lineup was announced and Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, Carol G headlining.

• 53:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love it.

• 53:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I love, I love all three of them.

• 54:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hope Justin brings it.

• 54:03Rayna Greenberg?

  I will be there, see.

• 54:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Swag too.

• 54:04Rayna Greenberg?

  I wouldn't go to a music festival if it was free, but.

• 54:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, I hope he does, you know, I think he's been up and down with his live performances. Obviously, he's been known to cancel dates and I just hope he is healthy and brings it. I love swag. I love swag too. I love his old stuff. I'm a, I'm a fan and so I just, I hope it's, it's great. You know, I think what was it last year, year before, like Frank Ocean had canceled one of the performances and you know, people were super upset. Like I just hope you don't, that something like that doesn't happen. You know, I hope he, he does it and I hope he crushes it. And of course Sabrina, like we're stans. I'm obsessed. That's gonna be incredible.

• 54:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I love Carol G. I'm obsessed with her.

• 54:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Carol G, of course. I love this range.

• 54:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Attendance has really fallen off, they've said in the last couple of years. And so I, they really went with just big, big, big, big hitters. So, um, that's what's happening. If you guys are interested, um, we didn't, we didn't get to this last week because we'd already recorded. Taylor Frankie Paul has been announced as the next bachelorette. You, you really don't see people like jumping across. I mean, she's on Hulu on the third upcoming season of Mormon Wives, which I'm obsessed with that show. And then she's gonna go to ABC, which Hulu is not, it's not a subsidiary of ABC. It's a Disney company. So she's jumping to The Bachelor on ABC and this is a real pivot for the show. You, you never see somebody who is a celebrity like this.

• 55:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel like you're downplaying it. This is insane.

• 55:29Rayna Greenberg?

  It's insane.

• 55:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's totally insane. And this is what they need to do to bring the viewership back. And of course, people have mixed feelings and we're just, we've done too much today. You know, this is, we'll, we'll keep talking about it. Rachel Lindsay had a great take, which I loved. Um, if you guys want to check that out. But I mean, she's a controversial character, but this is an unhinged decision by ABC and you'd love to see it.

• 55:50Rayna Greenberg?

  About time. People are like, people are gonna go on there to get famous. It's like. People have always only gone on there to get famous.

• 55:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Her baggage is out there for everyone to see, like they can't use it against her. I mean, people are gonna tune in. I am so sad for this. They haven't even started filming yet. And I'm just like, when's the premiere? When can we host a viewing party?

• 56:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, this is gonna be fascinating because you never have a lead on this show ever in how many years? I don't know. It's been, it's been 78 years or something that people know anything about. So like she can't lie about her background and who she's dated and what she's about. Like it's all out there.

• 56:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Man, good for them.

• 56:24Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy. I can't wait to watch it. I'm obsessed. And we've obviously already reached out to Hulu to do an interview with her.

• 56:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  And yeah, so hopefully you guys will get that on this show, we hope. And then just quickly, I mean, we said we're gonna take a week off from Taylor Swift, but she went to-

• 56:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I'll wear Ashley down every week on the Taylor Swift stuff.

• 56:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I guess she was at the Eagles Chiefs game, which Super Bowl rematch, the Eagles embarrassed them. This fumble by Travis Kelsey, right? I was like, I think the engagement's off. Can you imagine? See that? That fumble? I'm gonna put on the screen, by the way, because the Eagles made a reel out of it and they sent it to music and I can't stop watching it. I watched it in real time, too. But anyway, I was like, I don't think she's there because I think, you know, before Travis Kelsey, she was an Eagles fan or family. She's from Pennsylvania and her dad, she always talked about him like watching the Eagles. Like I just, maybe she, her being there would inflame it too much. People would boo her. They don't want to show her on the screen. Like I was like, I don't think she's gonna go to this one. And it turns out she was there.

• 57:21Rayna Greenberg?

  So I was so shocked. I was like, she didn't go because every single game for the last two years, she walks through the tunnels of the stadium and you see her fit. And I was excited to see what dumb outfit she strung together this time. You know, I love her so much, but she can't dress. And I was so excited to like, and I, I love when they pan to her and she's with his parents. And it's so cute. And this is the first, I was like, she must not be there because they didn't do the stadium walk. And lo and behold, she was behind this like $6,000 accordion, bulletproof, they're, so they're saying, accordion to walk across the stadium tunnel so nobody would see her and her family.

• 57:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Basically.

• 58:00Rayna Greenberg?

  accordion? I don't know what else to call it.

• 58:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just, it was like a rolling wall.

• 58:04Rayna Greenberg?

  A rolling wall.

• 58:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, like they, it was a thing on wheels. Like she was behind it and they're saying that's how they got her in with no one noticing. Like they really hid her being at the game.

• 58:14Rayna Greenberg?

  It was a real pivot, obviously from other years. People were saying it's because she got a bad haircut, but then she was photographed later on at Patrick Mahomes birthday party. And she was dressed in cute. People were saying it was because she was pregnant, but again, photographed later in the evening with Patrick Mahomes and Brittany Mahomes, not pregnant, looking cute.

• 58:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. Again, in the comments, let us know your conspiracy theories on this. I mean, I just thought that like tensions are so high and like Eagles fans think of her like a traitor. You know, I don't know. I just, maybe she didn't want to deal with it.

• 58:42Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought tensions were high in the country and I was like, celebrities don't feel safe. And you were like, tensions are high.

• 58:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Everywhere.

• 58:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  I meant both. I meant both.

• 58:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just to be clear.

• 58:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Difference if they played at Eagles stadium.

• 58:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 58:58Rayna Greenberg?

  But they played the Chiefs stadium.

• 59:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  God, say the link. Jesus fucking Christ. It's like that time you said Philadelphia. I was like, oh my God.

• 59:05Rayna Greenberg?

  One time on stage, people don't forget, you know?

• 59:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  My brother spit his drink out. Brittany was like, cheers to you, Philadelphia. I was like.

• 59:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I wish somebody would have gotten that on film. You looking at me when I said it.

• 59:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was like, get off the stage, get her off.

• 59:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Get her out of here.

• 59:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Get her out of here.

• 59:24Rayna Greenberg?

  So I mean, this whole episode is just full of my conspiracy theories, but there were a lot of them. And I'm just, I'm not sure what's what. And the last thing, all of y'all's homework, please watch the Charlie Sheen doc on Netflix.

• 59:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Me too.

• 59:35Rayna Greenberg?

  It's brand new. I watched it last night. It's two episodes. It's about two hours of content. It's a wild ride. You're just like, how is this man alive? He, um, he comes from a really famous family. He went really hard on drugs. He was the highest paid TV actor that there ever was. It's. Really interesting documentary. So we'll talk about it next week.

• 59:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, I have not seen it. Raina was telling me about it. And I was like, let's just give everyone an assignment. So you guys can watch it. We'll all discuss it together next week. And of course, Summer I Turned Pretty finale was last night. I guess they're talking about a two parter. But regardless, as you guys hear this, it was last night, if not the first part of, I don't know. So that happened. And I guess we'll talk about it. I hate that it's like, I'm always like a little dated when we do the snack and Summer I Turned Pretty, but you don't care because you don't watch it. So anyway.

• 1:00:17Rayna Greenberg?

  You're our correspondent.

• 1:00:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  We'll see what happened there. So thank you, guys, for listening to this episode of The Snack. We know it was, you know, all over the place in various ways, but we appreciate you guys if you're still here. And you can find us at girlsgottaeat.com. Monday, tickets will go on sale for the holiday shows. So Monday, September 22, you can get tickets to our holiday spectacular in New York and in LA. You can go to girlsgottaeat.com. Tickets will be available at 10 a.m. Eastern Time. Girlsgottaeat.com, Girlsgottaeat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess. Raina is Rayna Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. And we will see you Monday.

• 1:00:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a great weekend, guys.

• 1:00:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.