Brian Thomas Jr. gives the real on Travis Hunter, Trevor Lawrence’s growth, Liam Coen’s new offense, earning league respect, and the rise of LSU brothers Jayden Daniels & Malik Nabers, plus what’s key for the future.

"I approach everything like I'm the best receiver on the field." Brian Thomas Jr As our NFL Training Camp tour continues, we had to make a stop in Freddy T land checking out the Jaguars and talking to one the league's rising stars- Brian Thomas Jr! In this episode of The Pivot Podcast, Ryan Clark, Fred Taylor, and Channing Crowder sit down with the wide receiver mid camp as he enters his second NFL season. The former LSU standout opens up about his rookie year lessons, the speed of the league, and how he's approaching year 2 with a sharper mindset and bigger goals. He reflects on his time at LSU and the deep connection with former teammates Jayden Daniels and Malik Nabers who both are making their mark across the league. Brian talks about adjusting to life in Jacksonville, building chemistry with the offense, the growth of quarterback Trevor Lawrence and what the team's been doing differently this offseason to level up. Under new head Coach Liam Coen the offense has potential to be one of the best, especially with the secret weapon and newest attraction, Travis Hunter ready to make a splash on both offense and defense as the landscape is shifting with players coming in more NFL-ready than ever. Giving gratitude to his parents for always helping him chase his dreams and keep him humble through his football journey. Honest, focused, and hungry, Brian shares his vision for what’s next — not just for himself, but for the Jaguars’ offense as they aim to make noise in the AFC. Don't forget to subscribe on YouTube and follow us on social media for our latest updates! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Brian Thomas Jr. was one of the few bright spots of the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2024. And now, the former 23rd overall pick is ready to build on his stellar rookie year. And he also wants to become more of a vocal leader in year two. The normally quiet speedster said, "Getting on the same page with franchise QB Trevor Lawrence is one of his top priorities." Um, you know, probably right along with campaigning for rookie sensation Travis Hunter to spend most of his time on the offensive side of the ball. He's not really used to losing, and so last year really took a toll on him. But he feels that new head coach Liam Cohen has something special in store for Duval. He really can't put into words what it's like to see his former Tiger teammates,

• 1:14Ryan Clark?

  Jayden Daniels and Malik Neighbors, ball out for both of their teams. But he also can't shake the sadness that they couldn't do more for their friend, Kyron Lacy. He's the unquestioned number one now that Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram have moved on to new teams. But who are we kidding? B.T.J. always felt like he was number one. So get ready to hear Brian Thomas Jr. as you've never heard him before, as me, Freddie T., and Chan chop it up with the boots finest in the house that Fred Taylor built. Look at that boy walk. That boy walk smooth, smooth. All fast people walk slow. Fast people walk slow. All fast people walk slow, dawg.

• 1:54Fred Taylor?

  You realize how big he is?

• 1:55Ryan Clark?

  He taller though, too, than you think, though.

• 1:57Fred Taylor?

  I didn't know that joke was this big. I think he got to it.

• 2:01Ryan Clark?

  Why is he moving so slow?

• 2:03Speaker 04

  I'd hurt him, man.

• 2:05Ryan Clark?

  Aw, B.T., come on now.

• 2:06Speaker 04

  I'd hurt him.

• 2:07Ryan Clark?

  Come on, little man. Stop it.

• 2:11Fred Taylor?

  Hey B, what's up?

• 2:12Speaker 04

  What's up?

• 2:12Ryan Clark?

  Man, you from the...

• 2:13Speaker 04

  That joke is long, long.

• 2:14Fred Taylor?

  You gotta watch out for this one.

• 2:15Ryan Clark?

  You from Louisiana where we play outside.

• 2:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19Ryan Clark?

  And it be hot as hell. You used to be hooping, playing football. You are too young to talk about you hurting right now.

• 2:25Speaker 04

  I took a nice one yesterday. Took a nice, took a nice one. Come across that middle, yeah.

• 2:50Ryan Clark?

  BT, man, welcome to the Pivot. Ryan Thomas Jr., LSU's finest, Channing Crowder, Fred Taylor, Ryan Clark. Pivot fam, thank y'all for pivoting with us. I always feel good when the Tiger on here now, dawg. I'm usually with two Gators all the time. But talk about that, man. You know, first preseason game. You going across the middle. Juan Thornhill hits you. You coming off of one of the most historic rookie seasons ever. And you in the first quarter of a preseason game. How much fear is it that something like that could happen and hurt the rest of your season?

• 3:23Speaker 04

  I mean, it's always in your head a little bit. But I mean, I try to go out there and play. You gotta go out there and play without having fear. Because I feel like when you playing with a lot of fear in your head, that's when stuff happen. So, because you always worried about it, timid about it. So, I feel like you gotta go out there and play with like no fear. But I mean, I just go out there, do my thing, do what I'm supposed to do. And, uh, hey, it happen to happen.

• 3:41Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, B, just jumping right into it, man, because that's exactly what you did. Last year, you had Christian Kirk and Gabe Davis in the room, veteran guys that tried to bring you on. Now, it's you.

• 3:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:52Fred Taylor?

  You're the experienced leader in the room. Had a tremendous rookie year, like RC said. What's the mindset coming back this year and going into year two? Now, you gotta be able to be that same veteran to one Travis Hunter.

• 4:04Speaker 04

  Man, it's just, I feel like it all went by so fast for me. I feel like with them being, getting hurt, I wasn't able to have like a full season with like real, true vets. But I mean, just learning like all the little things that they taught me. Like, the first couple of weeks that we was together, I mean, it played a big role for me just going throughout the season. Just having Travis come in, I've been trying to like help him with like certain routes and stuff. Just talking through schemes, why we doing certain things versus certain coverages, why we like those things. It's just like little things like that. But I mean, he been taking it all in and just, I mean, he been, he hasn't missed a beat. He's just been going out there each and every day. Practicing hard, came to the game, played what 20 snaps on offense and defense. He's just been going out there killing it each and every day. Uh, yeah, I mean, that's, that was my biggest thing coming into year two, just wanted to take more of a leadership role.

• 4:50Speaker 04

  Uh, cause I mean, we don't have like no real like true, true vets, uh, besides the Yami in our, in our room. So just coming in, I just wanted to be, uh, be more of a leadership leader, take up more of a leadership role and be more of a leader to our young guys.

• 5:03Channing Crowder?

  You think you getting the respect you deserve?

• 5:07Channing Crowder?

  We was looking at what that damn Pepsi thing, whatever, and neighbors and Jayden, who's your boys anyway?

• 5:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:13Channing Crowder?

  But you know, you kind of going under the radar for a quick 1300.

• 5:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:17Channing Crowder?

  Going under the radar, you think you getting the respect you deserve in this league?

• 5:19Speaker 04

  Me personally, nah, I don't think so. Uh, I definitely don't think so. Just like a lot of little things, like even where, I mean, I try not to pay attention to it, but you see it was always popping up on your phone. Like the little thing, like top 10 receivers and all that. I mean, I finished third in, in the league last year and I, I mean, but I mean, I mean, I don't really pay attention to stuff like that, but I try to use it as motivation when I do see it to, uh, next year, I'm gonna make sure, like next year, I'm gonna make sure like, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna leave my mark, I'm gonna make sure y'all know, like I'm, I'm here to stay for sure.

• 5:48Channing Crowder?

  You gotta dance more.

• 5:51Channing Crowder?

  You got the LSU cool, man. I told Freddie, that's why, you know, he got disrespected. Man, you gotta dance and do some wild stuff.

• 5:58Speaker 04

  Man, I let my play do the talking. I might got a couple dance moves though this year. Me and Travis got something.

• 6:04Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, no, it was, it's similar situations. Uh, Channing just said it, man. You three, number three overall in the league, uh, last year in receiving. And you know, you had to sit back and a few guys jumped you in the, the initial Pro Bowl voting.

• 6:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:18Fred Taylor?

  I experienced those same things because of the market size here. But again, you said you have to just keep your head down and keep grinding. But now you're, you're pressing reset again. You had a, uh, coaching staff in year one, you got a totally new coaching staff in year two. Are you in charge of, uh, helping Coach Cohen with his do ball? Who's in charge, who's in charge of that? I know you in charge of a lot of stuff, leadership role, but who in charge of that?

• 6:46Channing Crowder?

  I said, I said.

• 6:51Speaker 04

  I don't know who was in charge in that one, but they definitely got it corrected though, for sure.

• 6:55Fred Taylor?

  No, but seriously, just to reset, being in a different system, are you comfortable yet? Is more work to get done? Where are you at this point during camp?

• 7:03Speaker 04

  Right now, I feel like I'm comfortable with the offense, with the language and stuff. I feel like I'm pretty comfortable. I pick up on like little things, I pick up on like learning things pretty fast. So I feel like I'm very comfortable with just hearing the play and being able to go out there and execute my route and stuff like that, but I just want to get like more detailed into the offense, like learning, like even like when me and Travis are talking, just like, why are we doing it? What's he seeing or makes us want to go to this play? And what's like, what's the best way that we can get open during this play when they're in this coverage or they switch and go to this coverage? Like little things like that, just want to get like super detailed into the offense and just knowing why we're doing those things. I feel like that'll help us out a lot.

• 7:43Ryan Clark?

  BT, man, you know, Channing mentioned the fact that, you know, Jaden and Malik had amazing years, the Rookie of the Week and Rookie of the Month. Obviously, Jaden is the Offensive Rookie of the Year, but for all three of you to play so well, it was a sense of pride for me. You know, getting an opportunity to see where y'all came from as youngsters at LSU to all being drafted first round and showing out in your rookie season. How cool is it though that all of you guys are so close? You did so much for LSU offensively and now both Jaden, Malik, and now add yourself to it are all shining in their different places.

• 8:19Speaker 04

  I mean, it's crazy just knowing like we were all just in college back on the same team together and now we all on our separate teams doing our own thing and we were all able to go out there and have a great season, our rookie year. So I mean, it's just crazy to be able to witness. I mean, but I knew, like seeing how they work, seeing like the stuff that they do, like all the little things they do to be the best that they can be, I knew like I ain't expect nothing less from them but to have a go out there and have a great season. So, but I mean, it actually coming into play and actually us actually living out our dream is just crazy and a wild thing to be able to be a part of, for sure.

• 8:53Ryan Clark?

  And then living that dream, obviously, our brother, your brother Kyron, he would be having an opportunity to do that as well. How have you processed his loss as close as all of you guys were?

• 9:07Speaker 04

  That's been a tough one for me because, I mean, like I was with Kyron like two weeks before it happened. So we were...

• 9:15Speaker 04

  On our way home, we was training together in Texas. We was on our way home and we just talking, we drove, we drove home. So we was just talking the whole way, talking the whole way. I remember he kept asking me how I was mentally, kept asking me how I was mentally. I mean, I was answering him, but I knew, I knew something was like going on. So I kept asking him how was he, but, because he never like, I mean, he always asked me that before, but he never like really kept asking, so I mean, for him to keep asking, I knew something, you know. So I mean, I was asking him, but I mean, I felt like I wasn't really able to get everything out of him or whatever. So, but I mean, I mean, that's just been, it's been, it's been tough for me just trying to, trying to get past or whatever. But I mean, I know he would, he would want, what he would want us to do and stuff like that, so.

• 10:00Speaker 04

  I just try to keep that in the back of my head, keep staying focused on the main goal.

• 10:03Fred Taylor?

  Would you approach it in a way differently in retrospect?

• 10:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I feel like I, I feel like I probably would, I feel like I would try to just like push the issue a little bit more and just see what was like, what he was, what he was getting at with asking those like little things like that. But I mean, I feel like God, God makes everything happen for a reason. I mean, like just like, man, I don't know, I can't really say, I don't know. Yeah.

• 10:27Ryan Clark?

  Malik has, Malik says he has some dances to, to honor Kyron this year, man. Do you have anything, just anyway, you know, Sean Taylor was one of my closest friends. And when he passed, you know, for the rest of my career, I changed my practice number. They wouldn't let me change my number in the game. So for practice, the rest of my career, I wore 21. I got like a special, I had a special shirt made, had 21 on the back, Taylor on the back, you know, had his day to birth, the day he passed, you know, because I always felt like that's, that was where he was supposed to be. And I wanted to represent him and I wanted him to get an opportunity to continue to be a part of the game as long as I, as I was. And obviously Malik said, okay, I got Kyron celebrations and dances that I'm gonna do when I score touchdowns.

• 11:12Ryan Clark?

  Is there any way that you're gonna work to remember him as well?

• 11:15Speaker 04

  Probably try to do the same thing, couple dance celebrations or stuff that he had. I mean, I can't really dance, so I'm gonna have to go practice a little bit. Might not be as good as his was, but I'm gonna have to go practice a little bit. But I probably try to do the same, maybe if I get in the end zone or something, probably try to do a little celebration that he used to do a dance or something.

• 11:32Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  But I mean, I gotta go practice for sure.

• 11:37Fred Taylor?

  How do you balance being, you know, the guy? And then the team signed the army, obviously he needs some help at the position. Travis, he's gonna make a splash. How do you balance being a guy but also have to be competitive? You know, in your room? Collectively as a group, have you guys set a goal yet?

• 11:57Speaker 04

  I feel like I always had to be competitive in every room I walked into. Just going to, like I said, going to LSU, I had K. Sean, all them guys, Trey Palmer. It was already established, so I had to go up in there and be a competitor. My freshman, I mean, my rookie year here, I had Christian Kirk, Gabe Davis, all those vets and stuff already. So I feel like every room I walked into, I had to be competitive. So I mean, that's nothing, that's not really a change. I mean, I feel like that's what football is, going out there and competing at the highest level. That's why I love the game.

• 12:24Fred Taylor?

  As a group, have you guys gotten together and say, like, this is the outlook, our goal for the season?

• 12:30Speaker 04

  We haven't really got together and set like a specific goal, like this is what we want to accomplish this season, or this is what we want to do this season. But I mean, everybody know in that room that we want to be the best. Like, we want to come out here and do what we got to do so we can be the best to even come through here or even come through the league. I mean, that's our main goal, and that's like a goal that we don't even got to talk about. Everybody know that. That's the mindset you got to have when you walk into that room.

• 12:56Channing Crowder?

  I hate giving LSU credit because he gonna smile and do all this. I smiled as soon as you said it. But, but you, you, it was crazy because he used to bring your name up all the time.

• 13:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:06Channing Crowder?

  He be like, "Big T can go." But you weren't the one. You weren't the one in college. I'm sure in high school you was the one, but like you get to that level, like you keep bringing up all the players you play with. To not be the one in college and then get to the league and be the one. Like, every time you walk out there, you get in the best corner. Like, that transition of becoming the number one after playing in college, now I would say underneath because you could play with them boys, but not drawing the best coverage every time. Now you their dude. Now they know where you are when you walk around.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  Right. Me personally, I always approach it like I'm the number one. I always feel like I'm the number one. I always feel like I'm the best receiver out there. So, but I mean, facing the top coverage, I mean, that ain't, like I said, I always approach it like I'm the number one. So I'm practicing and everything, like I'm going up against the best corner each and every week. I mean, I feel like it ain't nothing to me. I feel like that's just, this is what I do. There's, there's another person in the way of trying to stop me from what I want to do. So I gotta go out there and dominate him. So, yeah.

• 14:05Fred Taylor?

  You, you, you gotta see one of the best corners twice, twice a year in former LSU, uh, Stingley.

• 14:11Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:11Fred Taylor?

  How was that, that matchup last year when you had an opportunity to play each other?

• 14:15Speaker 04

  He was there at LSU my, my freshman year.

• 14:18Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  And I went up against him twice in practice, but I didn't, after that, he had, he had, I ended up getting injured. So I wasn't really able to go up against him. But I, I remember last year I went back and watched, uh, those reps. So we went up against each other again, trying to see what I can do, take little things to help myself win. I mean, it was, it was cool just to be able, I mean, we was in college together and now he's on a different team and we going up against each other. So I mean, that was super cool just to be able to go, go up against Sting and I know Sting personally. So, yes.

• 14:47Ryan Clark?

  So, you know, I remember last year, probably around this time, Todd Bowles.

• 14:52Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 14:52Ryan Clark?

  Right? It's a interview after joint practices and you were the first name he brought up. And then, you know, people sneak phones in and take videos and you bomb, it bombs the entire practice against Tampa Bay. Was that sort of a moment where you were like, okay, like, I can be different at this level?

• 15:12Speaker 04

  Nah, for sure. Uh, I feel like that was a big moment for me in just coming into the season. I wouldn't say I was having a horrible camp, but I wasn't having the best camp or whatever. Uh, and just being able to go out there, go out there and go against another team, see some new faces and go out there and compete against them. I feel like I was able to excel and I feel like that's why I really felt like, uh, I, I can really do something in this league. That was a big mark for me, uh, just coming into the league, for sure.

• 15:34Ryan Clark?

  What's the, what's the biggest difference you felt from being at LSU to now walking into your second year at, in Jacksonville? What is probably, or what do you feel is your biggest space of growth that you've had in that time?

• 15:53Speaker 04

  Becoming more of a vocal leader, uh, helping, helping a lot, a lot of the younger guys out. But when I was at LSU, I ain't really, I ain't really talk much. So I was just going out there doing my job, just going out there doing, uh, what I'm supposed to do, but, uh. I feel like becoming a leader is probably my biggest thing. And that's probably the thing I need to keep growing at the most. Because I know that's what the coaches want me to do. Just coming out there and leading, not just leading by example, but being a little bit more vocal, going out there and helping, helping get the offense going, get everybody, get everybody going really. Because I mean, they see what I do, but they, I mean, just hearing it too at the same time will help out a lot too.

• 16:29Ryan Clark?

  How do you help Trevor? How, like, that's the, that's what has to happen here. Trevor Lawrence, I, I met him in high school. And from the first time I ever watched him throw a football, I was like, that's what it's supposed to look like. And then you see the statuesque quarterback build. He like, that's what it's supposed to look like. That's why he's drafted first overall. That's why he wins the national championship at Clemson. And it's also why Liam Cohen is now here, right? It's about getting Trevor Lawrence to reach his full potential. What is it about him that makes you feel that this will be the year we could see the best of Trevor Lawrence?

• 17:05Speaker 04

  Like, he, I was taking more of like that leadership role. And he's like taking the next step. I feel like he's taking the next step in his game. Just, uh, whether it's building the chemistry with us, me, and all the other receivers, just talking to us a lot more, like how we see certain routes, like how we, how we, how he likes it or how we might like it. Just like versus a certain coverage or something. He might see it like this way and just like something like that. But we might tell him like, no, I want to like such and such. But just finding that, finding that point with them where we can come to an agreement on stuff like that. I would say that's probably the biggest thing, just becoming more of a leader and becoming like, just seeing how we see things and how, what's the best way for us to execute these certain plays versus certain coverage. I would say that's probably the biggest thing. But I feel like this year will be, I feel like this year is a year for him for sure.

• 17:51Fred Taylor?

  If I can share anything, having played alongside arguably the best quarterback to ever play in the game, Tom Brady. My two years in New England. Just being, I was in awe just being at practice with Tom. Everything Tom did was game speed. Yeah. From film, um, on the field, you know, gathering the guys after practice. Everything was always a hundred and ten miles an hour, just like the game. Communication, what we're gonna do, what we anticipate. And that, I think you can probably help share with Trevor through the way you practice. Like, the way you talk and establishing yourself as a leader. Because, obviously, the better you do and you guys do, I get to talk trash to this one.

• 18:36Fred Taylor?

  I get to talk trash to this one. Cause right now, they like, Freddie, your Jaguars ain't gonna beat us. But, you know, I, I, I stay and I'm patient, so. I, I am patient. That's what, that's what we're supposed to do.

• 18:49Ryan Clark?

  See, you, you are playing the game, right? I wanna share something with you about Fred Taylor. When you're on the field, when you're doing, and buying your trade, right? When you out here, when you out there sweating, it be hot as hell in J-ville. It's humid, right? You expect somebody like Freddie T, a Jaguar legend, to be in the trenches with you. That's not where he at, dawg. Freddie T is sitting. Bro, it's a big, is the chair red? Was the chair red, Fred?

• 19:15Fred Taylor?

  It's a black chair, man.

• 19:16Ryan Clark?

  So he got a big old chair, it's like velvet, right? And he is roped off, dawg. Freddie T got a rope around him, and the rope not close.

• 19:24Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 19:24Ryan Clark?

  Not BT, like, if you sitting here, the rope past the logo. Right? And when people walk up, while Freddie T, the game going on now. When they walk up, they gotta ask the security guard. Is it possible for me to speak to Mr. Taylor? Now, the security guard, even though Fred could hear him, ask Fred, Mr. Taylor. Is it okay if these people speak to you? And you know what he says? They may speak.

• 19:50Channing Crowder?

  He giving him a thumbs up or a thumbs down.

• 19:52Ryan Clark?

  It's like Gladiator.

• 19:54Fred Taylor?

  Game of Thrones.

• 19:56Ryan Clark?

  Bro, it's like Gladiator when Fred T goes to.

• 19:59Fred Taylor?

  I know you don't believe him, right? First, he was like red, Kappa, then velvet, and then the rope. Look, I'm at work. You know, I am, I am the most approachable Jaguar in the history of this organization. Anywhere. They, I show love and they give me love back. But it's roped off because I would never get my work done. I gotta watch, I gotta report, I gotta do the radio show, I'm taking notes. My memory ain't always the best, so I gotta take my notes, and I'm supporting y'all. I'm supporting y'all. So how did practice habits and leadership and trying to get the best out of my guys so we can win something, turn into me? This ain't about me.

• 20:37Ryan Clark?

  I'm talking about the lack of leadership you showed sitting in that seat.

• 20:40Fred Taylor?

  Nah, we here for you, bruh. We here for you. But I, I believe that you guys are gonna definitely turn it up, man, and you always got my full support. I don't know about this one, but I love to see you.

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• 21:21Ryan Clark?

  Actual, like, practice question, though, because Freddie T. mentioned in practice, we had Devonte Adams on the show, and Freddie T. has this cool question he's been asking that, like, who are three people you're rooting to have a great year? And then one person who you won't say out loud, who you're rooting to have a good year? So he asked Devonte Adams that, and the first name he used was Travis Hunter. And he talked about some of the hate that Travis gets. He talked about some of the negativity that just surrounds certain things that weren't even because of him. And then he also said, though, I think it's hard, Chan asked, he's like, I think it's gonna be really hard to play both ways. You know, you've gotten to see him at practice, I'm not sure how many times you've had an opportunity to go against him.

• 22:04Ryan Clark?

  When you watch him at practice on offense, are you thinking to yourself when you see Travis, let me give him the best rep I possibly can, so now when we get in the game, when he's playing offense and defense, he'll be prepared for that?

• 22:14Speaker 04

  I mean, I haven't really had the chance to go up against him as much, or maybe like two or three times. That was probably, that was really about it. When he's out there on defense or whatever, I'm talking, talking, uh, talking to the receivers, make sure y'all give him, make sure y'all go at him, don't, don't take nothing, don't go off. Because he's just him, or still push on him. Because at the end of the day, if this is what he want to do, he gotta make sure he's at the top of his game. He gotta make sure he's getting better each and every day. But I mean, he takes on the challenge each and every time. So he's going out there and making plays whether it's on offense, defense. He's just, I feel like it'll be tough for him. But I feel like he'll be able to do it. Just going out there and seeing him, what he does at practice. I feel like he'll be able to go out there and do it.

• 22:59Speaker 04

  But me selfishly, I would want him more on the offensive side. Help me out a little bit, track some of those coverages.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  But I mean, me personally, I feel like he'll definitely be able to do it. Man, that's awesome, man.

• 23:12Channing Crowder?

  How is it though? Because I'm just asking that question. So you say you working with him?

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:17Channing Crowder?

  So you trying to teach him releases and teaching him?

• 23:19Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I ain't.

• 23:20Channing Crowder?

  But you gotta like, because he's your receiving buddy.

• 23:23Speaker 04

  Are you talking about receiver wise?

• 23:24Channing Crowder?

  I'm teaching him, yeah. So you teaching him releases, like what you do. Knowing that he's about to turn around and line up in front of you. And be like, oh, you gonna do that little one more shit? Yeah, I got that shit. Like, that dynamic is kind of weird.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  Nah, it definitely is. Because I mean, I be like, you just heard us go over these concepts. Now you on this side, now you on defense at practice. And you know it's coming. So you probably jumping to everything, you seeing everything that's happening. I'm gonna go out there, when I go out there, I'm gonna, when we out there, I'm gonna try to give him as much as I can, whether it's offense or what I can do to help him out at defense, just for him to succeed. Because like you said, I feel like I really want him to succeed. I feel like he really can do it. So I'm gonna go out there and try to help him as much as I can, give him as much tips as I can, so yeah.

• 24:08Channing Crowder?

  And the videos, we always, we pass them around, we send them to each other.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:12Channing Crowder?

  Is he the stupid athlete that we see? Like, did he jump off the, like, he jumped off the screen to us? Does he jump off the field to you like, oh, that's special?

• 24:21Speaker 04

  He, he has something. I think it was like a scramble drill where Trev was just rolling down and just threw it up to him. He, I swear, I don't, he jumped so high off the ground and went, he went got it too, but he, and when he came down, he ended up coming out. But just to see how he can go up there and go get it, I was like.

• 24:43Ryan Clark?

  I love to see like really good football players talk about other really good football players and they be like shit.

• 24:51Fred Taylor?

  That was a light bulb moment, bro. I didn't realize I can go in here and I'm learning the receiver position. Now I gotta go on the other side. I got a little bit of a cheat sheet. I know what y'all about to do. You know what I'm saying? But also, we were talking about, you know, him playing both ways. It can't be done, not in the league, but in college. What he did in college was so impressive, but another thought that hit me was-

• 25:14Ryan Clark?

  You said it can't be done?

• 25:15Fred Taylor?

  No, no, no. A lot of people said-

• 25:17Ryan Clark?

  You can't play 130 snaps.

• 25:18Fred Taylor?

  Like every snap, he played every snap in college. But what was another light bulb moment for me, because I didn't put it into the equation, was he did it at altitude. Nobody really talk about him doing what he did in Denver at altitude. That's crazy, bro.

• 25:37Ryan Clark?

  He also like a little baby alien though. Like he was a five star that did both things and I think, like, we all tried. Like, I'm sure BT, he had to play defense at some point in his life. He was the best athlete in his city. The same for all of us. Like, we all tried. It's just at some point, you like, I can't do it. Altitude.

• 25:58Fred Taylor?

  Yeah. Denver Mile High?

• 26:02Fred Taylor?

  Bro.

• 26:02Ryan Clark?

  He's a bad friend. He's an awful friend. BT, I don't know if you ever had a friend like this. Let me tell you what this man did when we walked in the building. What he did? So Fred's talking to Tony Buscelli, right? Obviously, Tony Buscelli's a Hall of Famer. So we're walking down the hall. He's far away from Fred and he goes, "Look, there's one Hall of Famer." Right? And so, but, you know.

• 26:22Fred Taylor?

  In this hall.

• 26:23Ryan Clark?

  You know, to talk to the homies is cool, right? But he got up on Fred and Tony Buscelli and said the same thing out loud. He's like, "Yep, it's only one Hall of Famer here." It was so foul, even Tony Buscelli was like, "Damn."

• 26:37Channing Crowder?

  He leave those friends and be like, "Come on, man, tighten up."

• 26:40Fred Taylor?

  See, but he laughing about altitude. We almost, we wouldn't have this show because altitude almost took his life.

• 26:47Ryan Clark?

  That is true.

• 26:47Channing Crowder?

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• 27:16Fred Taylor?

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• 27:35Ryan Clark?

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• 28:09Ryan Clark?

  Like Fred mentioned this earlier, small markets, and that's why I got to the Hall of Fame story, right? It's a small market team and the other piece of it is you talking about, hey, do I get the respect I deserve? Or Channing asking you that. Bro, as a rookie on a team that only won four games, you're in the top 100.

• 28:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:29Ryan Clark?

  Right? So that means your peers and the people that watch you play, they understood what it was like to get out there and have to guard you. What were some of the harder games or toughest players you had to play in this league where you marked that guy down? Like that's somebody who I know every time I see him, I'm gonna have to bring it.

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Houston, Derrick for sure, played the Bears out there in London. Uh, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Johnson, nice. Houston for sure though. Houston with Derrick for sure. I would say that's probably, he was probably the best. The best one I went against this season for sure.

• 29:04Ryan Clark?

  For years, this division had DeAndre Hopkins versus Jalen Ramsey. Right, and that was a game you'd mark down when Houston played Jacksonville early on in their careers. That was going to be a difficult game for both of those players. Is it gonna be the same thing for you with Derrick? What has Liam brought to this team that has you excited about this year and being able to stack on a great rookie year, but also add those wins?

• 29:34Speaker 04

  A lot of energy, a lot of energy throughout the building, a lot of energy through the players.

• 29:40Speaker 04

  I feel like the players that they have brought in, I feel like they're gonna take us to the next level. Whether it's offense side, defensive side, I feel like just everything will take us to the next level. I feel like we ready to take that next step, so I feel like we gotta put in the work and do all the little things to take us to that next step. But I feel like, once we do all that, once we get that figured out, what it is to do all that, I feel like that's when we'll be able to take that next step. But I feel like Coach Liam's scheme and everything that he brings to the table, I feel like it's just elevation from what we have, for sure.

• 30:09Ryan Clark?

  And you also only have to get the ball to the 40-yard line now. We know that. You have a kicker that can make 70-yard field goals. Before he went out there, before halftime, did y'all know he could make it?

• 30:24Speaker 04

  Make it? Nah, we didn't see him kick anything like 65 in practice and stuff, but 70?

• 30:32Speaker 04

  I'm on the side, I say, "We kicking it?" I'm like, "How far is it?" It's like, I don't know, like 70, I think. I'm like, "Oh, you know, you got one more play or something."

• 30:42Ryan Clark?

  You could get to the nail, man.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm like, I say 70, it's crazy.

• 30:46Fred Taylor?

  I talked to Coach and he said he came to him and said, "Hey, call a timeout, let me go at it."

• 30:50Speaker 04

  I was right by him on the side, he was like, "Kick it, kick it." He was like, "If we get right here, I want to kick it," and he was like, so he just said, "Kick it," and I'm like...

• 30:57Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, Coach said he earned a little street cred, word around town, they calling him Cam Curry now. Cam Little Curry.

• 31:05Fred Taylor?

  Like Steph Curry.

• 31:06Ryan Clark?

  Bringing the offensive guy.

• 31:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:07Ryan Clark?

  Is that, is it, is it enlightening to have a new offense? I know it takes time to get used to it, but is it like, is it almost invigorating to have that new offense? And see where you're gonna be and how Coach Cohen sees you over the previous coaches, that?

• 31:22Speaker 04

  I feel like it's very enlightening, just being able to have a new coach come in who is very offensive minded and just to see... Like how his past couple of seasons been going or with the past with the offense that he's been running. Uh, so I feel like it's very enlightening. Uh, just being able to see how they think about me. Like some of the other coaches might have thought about me. I feel like it's very enlightening for me. Just to be able to go into year two, how I want to go into year two.

• 31:47Ryan Clark?

  How much of it for you though, is still having a chip on your shoulder? I, I think about something Channing said earlier. He's like, you know, in college, which you were a great college player. Obviously when you go top 20, that's what that means. But it's like, okay, you had the Heisman Trophy winner and you had another receiver that went sixth overall. And then now you do come here and you become rookie phenom. And it's still like, okay, I gotta get, I gotta get my respect. I have to go earn it. How much of a chip is on your shoulder headed into this year? To be able to not only repeat success from last year, but become an even better player because that's what's expected of you.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  I use all of it as motivation. I feel like, uh, me gotta go out there and keep, keep doing what I do. Keep producing the way I, uh, I know I can and keep just elevating my game. I just go out there and have that in my head the whole game is, and like using it as motivation. Like they didn't have me in this, so I'm gonna go out here and do this. They had him ranked over me, so I'm gonna go out there and show them why, why he not ranked above. Why I feel like I'm ranked above him. Uh, but I mean, it's just all is motivation. I take everything and use it as motivation. Uh, keep me pushing and keep me going forward and keep me striving to be the best each and every day. So, yeah.

• 33:01Ryan Clark?

  What you did is uncommon though, man. You play with different quarterbacks and produced in that manner. Not every wide receiver is quarterback independent.

• 33:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:11Ryan Clark?

  To where even if they don't have a great quarterback, they can produce. Even if they don't have a Christian Kirk and another receiver who can take attention off of them, they can produce. And so what you were able to do, man, at least in the football world, did not go unnoticed.

• 33:26Channing Crowder?

  Freddie, who we, who we running with, with the Jags? I know, I gotta bring up Jay Smooth. Talking about the best Jags receivers ever.

• 33:32Fred Taylor?

  Obviously there's only one at the top. That's who you shoot for.

• 33:36Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 33:36Fred Taylor?

  You're gonna shoot for anybody, it gotta be Jimmy.

• 33:39Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 33:39Fred Taylor?

  That's gotta be the mindset.

• 33:41Channing Crowder?

  To be in that, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to put the cart before the horse.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:45Channing Crowder?

  You had a chance to be one of the greatest in an organization with the, you know, if you extrapolate out the numbers of what you had your rookie year, but just knowing that, seeing what you could do, bruh, it's something special to me.

• 33:57Speaker 04

  I mean, I don't really, I don't really try to look at that right now. I'm just trying to focus, focus on year two right now. And then, at the end of my career, I look back and, hopefully then I'll be able to say, yeah, I'm one of the best to come through this organization. I'm one of the best to even play in the league, for sure.

• 34:11Channing Crowder?

  Do you, do you try not to smile? Or do you just not smile? Man, we joking here.

• 34:20Channing Crowder?

  You enjoy yourself, brother?

• 34:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. Man, everybody say that. I don't know. That's just me. I don't know. I don't know.

• 34:27Ryan Clark?

  For, for me, being like an older cat that went to LSU that's from Louisiana, I get so much pride in watching y'all do well.

• 34:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:35Ryan Clark?

  And then, you know, you coming from Walker, going to LSU, getting into the draft and becoming who you have as a player. When did you realize? And who, who was it that put it in you that you had an opportunity to be here?

• 34:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:51Ryan Clark?

  You know, like I remember the high school team you played on, extremely talented team. You guys never could quite get over the hump and win it. Like, when, when did you realize, hey, you know what? I have a chance to be good. And how did your parents and your mother play a part in continuing to support you and push you forward?

• 35:08Speaker 04

  When I really felt like I had a chance to be good, it's probably, I had to be during college when I was, I mean, just at practice, just being able to go out there and win. Some of the reps I was winning, just coming in as a freshman and being able to beat some of the older guys. That's really when I felt like I can really be good at this. And my parents were everything for me. They pushed me each and every day. They supported me all the time. They supported me. They've been supporting me for my whole life. To be able to have them in my corner and always pushing me, always just supporting me, I feel like. They were, they were, they were everything for me. And I feel like they got me, they got me to this point. My dad, he helped me out. I mean, we been, since I was five, six in the yard, running routes, doing like little things. It's like little stuff, but he always been there.

• 35:53Speaker 04

  My mom, my mom, same thing, always been there for me my whole life. But having them two in my life, I mean, and supporting me the way that they did, I feel like that's, this was got me here. So I give everything to them.

• 36:04Ryan Clark?

  How has it been being here though? You know, I was the same way. I was, I grew up in Louisiana, on the west bank of New Orleans. I went to school an hour away from my parents. I saw them all the time. You know, they were at every game. They could visit me during the week. I could drive home on weekends in the off season. And then I was in New York and I was by myself.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:22Ryan Clark?

  You know, when you make that move to Jacksonville, what was that adjustment like for you? Cause now you're in a different place with more responsibilities and a real damn job.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  I feel like the adjustment was pretty smooth for me though. But I mean, my parents were still back and forth a little bit. They was coming out here, uh, you know, a little bit just to, cause I mean, they know where I, I had been at home. I went to college 20, 30 minutes away. Just coming out here to Jacksonville, I mean, they knew it was like afar. So just, uh, they were, like I said, continuously supporting me. So they would come out here every, they would try to come out here at least once a month, once or twice a month for sure. Just to come out here and check on me and just like little things like that. That was probably the biggest thing that probably helped me out for sure.

• 37:01Ryan Clark?

  What about the nightlife? You sound good and your mom and daddy. Like I've been to New Orleans and now I've been to Jacksonville. Sorry, Freddie.

• 37:13Ryan Clark?

  Is there anything going on here? I just don't wanna go eat chicken wings all the time.

• 37:17Speaker 04

  Uh, nah, not out here. If you, you going nightlife, uh, out here ain't, I don't, I don't think out here is a place to be.

• 37:25Ryan Clark?

  What's it called, uh, Foxy?

• 37:27Fred Taylor?

  Man chill out, man. We not talking about that on this show.

• 37:30Ryan Clark?

  We not talking about Foxy Lady on this show.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  What's Foxy Lady? What's that is?

• 37:32Ryan Clark?

  RC.

• 37:33Fred Taylor?

  It, it doesn't exist.

• 37:34Ryan Clark?

  It ain't around no more?

• 37:35Fred Taylor?

  It is not the Foxy Lady.

• 37:36Ryan Clark?

  What's it called?

• 37:37Fred Taylor?

  It was the Silver Fox.

• 37:38Ryan Clark?

  Silver Fox.

• 37:39Fred Taylor?

  They had some good wings, like, like little will wings.

• 37:42Ryan Clark?

  Like pepper wings, like.

• 37:44Fred Taylor?

  Lemon pepper wings.

• 37:45Ryan Clark?

  Like Magic City wings.

• 37:46Fred Taylor?

  Yeah. You always wanna bring that up?

• 37:50Ryan Clark?

  What do you need to hook him up with Lil Duval, man? With Lil Duval come down?

• 37:54Fred Taylor?

  I know Duval, I mean, they love you too, right? Yeah, they definitely love you. The city love you, obviously. That's just how Jacksonville is. Other NFL cities, other than maybe Pittsburgh, their fans crazy, they show up regardless. We start winning a bit more around here, you will see and feel all of the love, man. Be a little bit more stuff to do. I got into a lot when I was here. So I don't know what's going on now. I did. I did. I can tell you off camera. Yeah, they used to get to it. But, you know, but and then that was another, that was, that was another part of me too that, again, that, that sort of hurt me early in my career too, because I, I ain't really had no, no breaks. Like, once I got going, I was going. And then I had to reel it back.

• 38:38Fred Taylor?

  So it's good, it's better for you can focus on becoming a Pro Bowler and an All-Pro, so.

• 38:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, same time, you still gotta have a little fun.

• 38:46Fred Taylor?

  A little outlet.

• 38:47Speaker 04

  Coming from, coming from where I come from, Baton Rouge, hey, it's a little different.

• 38:54Ryan Clark?

  Hey, my dog said, he ain't said back like that the whole, the whole show. He started talking about BR. He said, shit, the NIL kicked in late in that, late in that career. It's a different, it's a different life. You know what I'm saying? Different life. BT, man, you know, headed into this season though, from a, from a team perspective. You know, you mentioned, we talked about Trevor, and you talked about new additions. Diame's in the, the wide receiver room now as well. You know, Travis Hunter is going to be playing both ways. You have a run game. So there are pieces here for you all to be something different. What are some of your main goals and focuses as a team this year to improve from being 4 and 13?

• 39:37Speaker 04

  Just being on the same page. Everybody being on the same page. Everybody wanting the same thing. But when we get on that same page, we gotta go out here and do what it takes to get to that level. So, I mean, that's probably the biggest thing, just being on the same page and being out here, going out here and executing what it takes to get to that level that we want to be on. I mean, I feel like, once we do that. I feel like everything, everything will fall in the park for sure.

• 40:03Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, like the, the, the hard part about this league, man, is things change so fast. Was it as simple last year as Trevor getting hurt? And it being difficult to rebound from that? Or I guess, what were some of the things that you believe played a role? In the season not going the way y'all wanted it to as a team last year?

• 40:27Speaker 04

  I really don't, I really feel like injuries for sure. That played a big role. Just like we wasn't on the same page, whether it's offense, defense, coaches, players. I just feel like we all wasn't on the same page. To pinpoint one little thing, I can't, I don't really, I don't really know what it was. I feel like it was a variety of things that held us back from going where we wanted to go. I can't pinpoint one thing.

• 40:52Ryan Clark?

  But you, bro, you've never lost.

• 40:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, no.

• 40:54Ryan Clark?

  Your high school team was a good team. Your college team was a good team. Was it, how difficult was last year on you to be playing as well as you were individually? But also leaving the stadium and many times looking at the scoreboard, at least 13 times? And Jacksonville was on the short end of the points?

• 41:16Speaker 04

  It was hard, it was super hard for me. Like you said, I've never lost. I've never been like on a losing, losing team. And the games were so close, I feel like we was, we was always right there. Well, we lost what, like 10?

• 41:28Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  One score games, I feel like we was always right there, but we just couldn't get over that hump. So that made it even, that made it even harder for me.

• 41:35Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  Just trying to come in with a positive mindset each and every, each and every day? And try to like fix the, fix what it was to, to get us over that hump? But I feel like we could never, like we could never just get over it. It was, it was super tough for me just balancing that and but trying to be positive at the same time. I mean, it was, it was, it was tough.

• 41:55Ryan Clark?

  Was it tougher than scoring like 50 points and still losing at LSU? Cause we had the worst defense of all time, two years ago?

• 42:01Speaker 04

  It's definitely up there with it.

• 42:03Ryan Clark?

  Bro, and I, I was trying to refrain from this, Ole Miss, dawg. BT, you went crazy. Jay went crazy, like everybody.

• 42:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:12Ryan Clark?

  Lost their minds, dawg. And how many points we gave up that day?

• 42:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:17Ryan Clark?

  50?

• 42:17Speaker 04

  50.

• 42:18Ryan Clark?

  Dawg, when you go in the locker room, were you looking at the defense like, say, bruh? Like, cuz you know, that's like, that's your real friends when you in college. Like, that's your real homeboys. Wouldn't they let you down like that? Was you hot?

• 42:32Speaker 04

  Uh, definitely. Hot, I'm like, we like, bro, like, what's, what's going on? What is it? We scoring, what, what is it? I'm like, just trying to figure out what the problem is. Why we can't get no stops or like, what? But I mean, we a team at the same time. It was like, we could've did a little bit more on offense, so. Can't really put everything on them for sure.

• 42:51Ryan Clark?

  Y'all would've walked in, I would've said, "It's y'all." It ain't us. If we score 50 and we lose. He could've, hey, hey, it was him, Malik Neighbors, and Jayden Daniels. He could've did that. He could've, hey, he could've walked in and said, "It is y'all. It is not us."

• 43:09Ryan Clark?

  You wanna know how I know? Look at the scoreboard. That is not us.

• 43:13Channing Crowder?

  You been on the other side of that too. You been on the other side of that too.

• 43:16Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, we should've said it too in Pittsburgh a lot.

• 43:19Fred Taylor?

  But that's, that's the beauty of where he is now in his career. And, and what we have with the new regime, right? Everything's fresh. It's all a reset. Culture, I like to toss that word out. I love Mike T. up in Pittsburgh. I have an opportunity to sit down with him. It's about a standard. Like, you can have a culture, and the culture, you can have different types of people in that mesh and create a certain culture, but what's the standard? Your standard, coming from high school, from college, is winning. Last year, with the season you had, and accountability, and the performance, everything that you did, guys will buy into you, whatever you say to them right now, and you just draw a line in the sand or in the grass. Say, "We not stepping across that.

• 44:02Fred Taylor?

  Unless we going across that to battle, that's nothing less. We not accepting anything less." And that's where we are. So, as a second-year player, don't hesitate to assert yourself as a leader. If you wanna be a leader, that's what it's gonna take. Hurting feelings? Fuck it.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:17Fred Taylor?

  Like, it just comes with it. They gonna still get paid. They might be a little bit hurt, they gonna get paid. Right? They gotta show up again. And if they don't show up over and over, they gonna be out of here. So, in order to be, like, really successful, draw the line, say, "This is the standard." We ain't accepting nothing else. We see you slacking, not practicing right, not studying right, you BSing, looking for the nightlife, like, overdoing it, and it's cool to go out.

• 44:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:42Fred Taylor?

  Don't get me wrong, it's, it's good to party, but when you overdo it, and do things too excessively, that's when it's an issue. Moderation is always great, so, you know, you can lead them. Even Trevor, don't be scared to say, hey, bro, we gotta get better. You know what I'm saying? Let's go do these routes. Let's go get on this film. Let's go chill away from here. Let's get better. I want to be the best that I can be. I want to be better than Jimmy. I want to be better than Malik. You know what I'm saying? I want you to be better than these other guys. So come together, you know, and create a winning product. So you can be proud of yourself regardless of individually, but as a unit. And then I can talk a little shit to these two in the process.

• 45:20Ryan Clark?

  This brings me to my last point for BT before I ask my last question.

• 45:24Fred Taylor?

  Yes, sir.

• 45:26Ryan Clark?

  When we go to Pittsburgh, right? And when we have conversations with them, I've never once had to give someone a pep talk. Right? Would you say that? Like, we haven't sat with a Pittsburgh Steeler where I had to explain, hey, you gotta push them this way, or you gotta do this. Because there's a history of winning, right? There's a history of we are working towards a certain thing. Jacksonville's history, one, they're an expansion team, but it has been up and down, right? They haven't had this, like, consistent level of this is who we are. We're going to continue to compete for championships. How do you change that?

• 46:09Ryan Clark?

  How do you change the history of an organization that is not synonymous with winning?

• 46:17Speaker 04

  Kind of like you say, coming in and setting a standard. You gotta have a standard of what we gonna be and what are we gonna do to get to that level? So, I mean, you gotta have a standard. And you gotta, if people not abide by it, you gotta let them know. Or you gotta, but I mean, just having a standard and what we gonna do to be able to get to that standard? I feel like that's what you gotta have to be able to. Be consistent and be able to take it to that next level. So I feel like that's the biggest thing that you gotta have.

• 46:50Ryan Clark?

  Do you set goals before the season? Like are you one of, we talked to Bijon Robinson and he said when he was in college, he set like these seemingly impossible goals to reach. He was like, you know, my first year I wanted a thousand, then I wanted fifteen hundred, then I wanted two thousand. Do you set tangible goals like that heading into the season?

• 47:11Speaker 04

  I set goals before I do anything. Whether it's just doing like little stuff. I set goals of what I want to get accomplished or what I want to do. I mean, I feel like that helps me out and helps, it keeps me motivated, pushes me each and every day to, like say if I wake up, I'm not feeling, feeling good or something. But I know I got, I know I got my goals in the back of my mind. So I know what I gotta do to strive each and every day to get to that goal. So I feel like it just, it just helps me out and keeps me motivated as an individual, so yeah.

• 47:39Ryan Clark?

  I love that. Well, man, listen, bro, I appreciate you, you know me, I'm trying to get a tiger on here anytime I can. You know, we, I was like Fred, hey, can you hit the Jags up and see if we can get BT? I was like, I can shoot them a DM if you need me to.

• 47:52Fred Taylor?

  So with that said, what's your biggest pivot in life? That's that one moment you can look back on and say, with this happening to me or for me, I wouldn't be, or I am who I am today.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  Just seeing the way my, my parents supported me or how they raised me. And me just wanting that for whenever I get older and if I have kids or whatever.

• 48:16Speaker 04

  So I'd probably say that's, I'd probably have to be the biggest thing, biggest thing for me for sure.

• 48:21Ryan Clark?

  Like how much influence have they been on you, man? It's like you, you talk about your parents the way I talk about mine. You know, and like my parents, we're still like that.

• 48:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:30Ryan Clark?

  You know, like my pops have been on the road with us. You know what I mean? Like how, how big of an influence is that? Cause you even said like, when I get older and I have kids.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:41Ryan Clark?

  Like you wanted to be like them. Like just talk about the effect, man, that they did have on you.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  I mean, I just feel like they've been great to me. They've helped me out, they've supported me my whole life. I mean, what if I didn't have something and they would make, they would find a way to go get it, find a way for me to get it. So I'm just like little things like that, bro. I feel like, I mean, they, they. He did everything for me to get here to this spot so I can live the life that I want to live. Uh, and do the things that I want to do. So, I mean, I feel like I owe them everything.

• 49:13Ryan Clark?

  I love that, bro. Listen, man, I wish you the best. I, I hope you kill it again. I mean, I know individually, I've, I've only seen you excel and I do hope that that leads to team's success here, man, cuz it's, it's one thing to feel like you're doing something great by yourself, but ain't nothing like winning games, dawg. Being able to walk into work on Monday morning, know you gonna watch that film and at the end of the day, the Jacksonville Jaguars are the team that walked away victorious. So, man, for Freddie T, for Chan, for me, bruh, BTJ, man, we thank you, bruh. We appreciate you. Do your thing.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Appreciate it, oh yeah.

• 49:48Ryan Clark?

  No, he's, no, he's got, "Duval." Duval. We changing it. We changing it, man. He changing it for Coach. Hey, we changing it for Coach. Coach cool, bruh. Hey, when the boys go to the playoffs, Coach gonna get the gift and go, "Duval." He better run it back. My boy, appreciate you.

• 50:04Speaker 04

  Appreciate it.

• 50:05Ryan Clark?

  BTJ, you hooped in high school too, huh?

• 50:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, a little bit.

• 50:07Ryan Clark?

  A little bit, yeah.

• 50:10Ryan Clark?

  But see though, like, that's the thing, like, basketball's not like that in Louisiana.

• 50:14Speaker 04

  You don't think? Scotty Bill was nice.

• 50:16Ryan Clark?

  Scotty Bill was really good.

• 50:17Fred Taylor?

  Like, back in the day. Was Romo, Swift, was he from?

• 50:20Ryan Clark?

  Stromau, he's from St. Louis.

• 50:22Fred Taylor?

  See, I had some, some players. It was, uh.

• 50:25Ryan Clark?

  So, we had a duo, bro, and he's way too young for this. His name was Randy Livingston.

• 50:30Speaker 04

  I know Randy. Randy was, Randy was my, uh, AAU coach.

• 50:32Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 50:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:33Ryan Clark?

  Randy Livingston was the best, honestly, as a high schooler, he was the best basketball player I'd ever seen in person. He would play center on defense, dawg, and point guard in offense. Peyton was on his team. He went to school with Peyton Manning. Bro, in the camp, he was the national, McDonald's National Co-Player of the Year. Guess who the other person was? Jason Kidd. Really? In, in the summer camp at LSU before his rookie, before his freshman year, just teaching the kids how to do a jump stop, blew his ACL, came back, did the other one. Couldn't do it.

• 51:06Channing Crowder?

  I was just about to ask, why ain't that early name?

• 51:08Ryan Clark?

  But, listen, bro, he had all those knee surgeries. He still played in the league for like eight to 10 years. He just couldn't do, he couldn't be what he was. He was just such a good hooper. He could still bring it up the court, pass it, run an offense. But he, bro, it was like, it was dunks, trades. Like, he was crazy.

• 51:25Fred Taylor?

  That's the whole version of him, Frank G.

• 51:27Ryan Clark?

  Frank Gore was like that?

• 51:28Fred Taylor?

  Frank blowout, both ACLs, still went to U M.

• 51:31Channing Crowder?

  No, that's what happened to me.

• 51:32Fred Taylor?

  Went crazy with all that.

• 51:33Channing Crowder?

  I would have been Ray Lewis if I ain't hurt my knees.

• 51:36Ryan Clark?

  This is only because CJ and them did it all to me.

• 51:39Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:40Ryan Clark?

  Chauncey, yeah.

• 51:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 51:41Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I'm ready.