You Win Some, You Lose Some

Politics, like all contests, involves winners and losers. Cato lost elections, such as his first run for praetorship in 55 BCE and his run for consul in 51 BCE. Cicero lost some as well. James Stockdale lost in a landslide as Ross Perot’s running mate, after one of the worst drubbings in vice presidential debate history. As long as there have been Stoics running for office—from the days of ancient Greece through Rome and up to today—there have been Stoics who lost. The same is true for all Stoics for all time. Chrisyppius, the philosopher and distance runner, would have certainly lost races. There were Stoics who lost battles (Cato being one) and Stoics who lost deals or experienced crushing financial setbacks (Zeno being another). How should a Stoic respond to such a loss? With humor, with determination, and with perspective. Zeno, remarking on the fact that he had lost his entire fortune when a convoy of ships carrying his goods was wrecked, joked, “Thus Fortune did drive me to philosophy.” Other Stoics said less...they just kept going. They ran for the next public office, rebuilt their fortunes, retreated with their troops for the next battle. More recently, Mitt Romney, who lost to Barack Obama for the Presidency in 2012, captured the proper attitude as well, when asked by a reporter who seemed to assume he was still dwelling on that setback. “My life is not defined in my own mind by political wins and losses,” Romney said. “You know, I had my career in business, I’ve got my family, my faith—that’s kind of my life, and this is something I do to make a difference. So, I don’t attach the kind of—I don’t know—psychic currency to it that people who made politics their entire life.” But more than what he said, Romney seems to be living with the right attitude. In 2018, he ran for an open Senate seat in Utah and won it—taking office with a long list of things he wanted to accomplish, not for himself but for what he thinks his grandchildren will expect of his generation. As for becoming president? He’s got no need for higher office. He’s making do with what’s in front of him. “I’m not in the White House. Tried for that job,” Romney said. “I didn’t get it. So all I can do from where I am is to say, ‘All right, how do we get things done from here?’”It’s inevitable that we will lose in life. We’ll get passed over for the promotion. We’ll get beaten in the final game of the season. A competitor will take all in a winner-take-all market. The question for the Stoic is not “Why?” or “How come?” or “Isn’t life unfair?” It is simply: “Ok. What next?” It is, as Romney said, “How can I get things done from here?” It is: What will I do in response? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. 📢 Share | ⚙️ Manage Subscription

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• 0:06Ryan Holiday?

  Welcome to The Daily Stoic, where each day we read a short passage designed to help you cultivate the strength, insight, wisdom necessary for living the good life. Each one of these passages is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women. For more, you can visit us at dailystoic.com. You win some, you lose some. Politics, like all contests, involve winners and losers. Cato lost elections, such as his first run in 55 B.C. and his run for consul in 51 B.C. Cicero lost some as well. Stockdale lost in a landslide as Ross Pro's running mate.

• 0:49Ryan Holiday?

  As long as there have been Stoics running for office, from the days of ancient Greece through Rome and up to today, there have been Stoics who lost. The same is true for all Stoics in all fields. Chrysippius, the philosopher and distance runner, would have certainly lost races. There were Stoics who lost battles, Cato being one, and Stoics who lost deals or experienced crushing financial setbacks, Zeno being another. How should a Stoic respond to such a loss? With humor, with determination, and with perspective. Zeno, remarking on the fact that he had lost his entire fortune when a convoy of ships carrying his goods was wrecked, joked, "Thus, fortune did drive me to philosophy."

• 1:32Ryan Holiday?

  Other Stoics said less, but they kept going, ran for the next public office, rebuilt their fortune, retreated with their troops for the next battle. More recently, Mitt Romney, who lost to Barack Obama in 2012 for the United States presidency, captured the proper attitude well when asked by a reporter who seemed to assume he was still dwelling on that setback. My life is not defined in my own mind by political wins and losses, Romney said. You know, I had my career in business. I've got my family, my faith. That's kind of my life, and this is something I do to make a difference. So I don't attach the kind of, I don't know, psychic currency to it, to people who made politics their entire life.

• 2:16Ryan Holiday?

  But more than what he said, Romney seems to be living with the right attitude. In 2018, he ran for an open Senate seat in Utah and took it. He took office with a long list of things he wanted to accomplish, not for himself, but for what he thinks his grandchildren will expect of his generation. As for becoming president, he's got no need for higher office. He's making do with what's in front of him. I'm not in the White House, he said. I tried for that job. I didn't get it, so all I can do from where I am is to say, all right, how do we get things done from here? It's inevitable that we will lose in life. We'll get passed over for the promotion. We'll get beaten in the final game of the season.

• 2:58Ryan Holiday?

  A competitor will take all in a winner-take-all market. The question for the stoke is not why, or how come, or isn't life unfair? It's simply, okay, what next? It is, as Romney said, how do I get things done from here? It is, what will I do in response? If you're liking this podcast, we would love for you to subscribe. Please leave us a review on iTunes or any of your favorite podcast listening apps. It really helps, and tell a friend.