Standing on Business with Love Island's Chelley and Olandria

We’ve got a text… and it’s from two of Love Island’s most unforgettable OGs, Chelley and Olandria. In their first post-Love Island interview together, they’re pulling no punches. From navigating double standards as Black women to clearing up the rumors, were Chelley and Ace dating before the villa? And how did Nicolandria go from unexpected to iconic? Olandria spills on Taylor, Clarke, Nic, and a few heads that may have turned. They also break down the real story behind the six-hour Stand on Business challenge and what it’s like being labeled “mean girls” just for keeping it real. It’s a full-on villa recoupling, don’t miss it! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:05Keke Palmer?

  If y'all haven't been watching Love Island USA this season, where have you been living? Under a rock! Because my guest today had us locked in since day one. From that Casa Moore elimination fake-out to that chaotic heart rate challenge, and yes, a little action in the hideaway. Shelly and Alandria brought the drama, the laughs, and one of the realest friendships we saw all season. But what was really going on in that villa? Are there connections built to last? Seriously, what is the future of Nicole Landria looking like? Plus, can every girl truly be a girl's girl? Because some of y'all were looking a little suspect, honey. Shelly and Alandria are fresh out of the villa and ready to spill the tea. So let's get into it. This episode is presented in partnership with Airbnb. Baby, summer's calling,

• 0:49Keke Palmer?

  and she's got one thing on her mind: your next getaway. My take? Plan your trip by searching guest favorites on Airbnb, because these most-loved homes are ready for your next adventure. Let's get into it. Okay, girls, before I get into everything I want to get into with you guys, thank you so much for coming on the show. Like, I am... Am I your first interview? Yes. Yes! Thank you for having us. I'm thrilled, okay? So you get back to America, you get your phones. What's the first thing that you do? You know, do you immediately go online or do you just call your family? I call my family. I did a group FaceTime.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  I don't know, I think I turn it on and then everything just started coming in. So I'm like, what is this? I just click and now I'm seeing all this stuff. And I'm like, what the hell? So then I just hit up my family, my family group chat. And I was like, hey, y'all. And then everyone was like, oh, my gosh, you got your phone? So it was both. I was talking to family and looking at what is going on here.

• 1:44Keke Palmer?

  Now, before y'all get to y'all phone and everything, is there like a time period where you talk to any therapist or you're like in-between? What happens? The show ends, you see who wins, then y'all go where?

• 1:56Speaker 01

  Well, it was different for both of us because...

• 1:59Keke Palmer?

  I know for you, because you guys left.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, so for me, it was...

• 2:02Keke Palmer?

  I wasn't lying.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  Trust me, I was hurt. No, I know.

• 2:05Keke Palmer?

  It didn't make any sense. Meanwhile, Chris started breaking up on the last day.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  So I'm like, you know what?

• 2:11Keke Palmer?

  We'll get to that.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  The math, not math, but I was ready to go. I was happy to go, to be honest, so. But after that, it was just like, you know, we got to meet with our therapist.

• 2:19Keke Palmer?

  Okay, good.

• 2:20Speaker 01

  Then we had to do like some side stuff and then we were able to get our phones. So they definitely had us talking to our therapist and stuff.

• 2:26Keke Palmer?

  That's good. So they kind of prepare you guys. Is there things that they tell y'all not to do? Like, hey, maybe wait on the online or don't say anything too soon or kind of teach you how to deal with such the overwhelming influx of companions and things?

• 2:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, because they made it a point that this year is big and even you could have told us that 50,000 times. We didn't really realize it until we came out here. Exactly. I'm like, what do you mean big? Like, I know last year was big. What are you talking about? I thought they were just like hyping us in a villa like, oh, this is big. Like, y'all keep doing that thing. But when I got my phone, I'm like, oh, this is what y'all talking about? So they just kept letting us know like, hey, it is big. If you need time to yourself, take your time to yourself. Um, you know, there's negativity, but there's a lot of love. So make sure you guys are focusing on the love that you see because there's always going to be trolls. So it was stuff like that.

• 3:08Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, I mean, we definitely saw a lot of racial influx too, which was really tough. It was tough for us, for me and my other fellow black girls to watch you guys endure some of those things.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:17Keke Palmer?

  So I mean, what did your family say? What was the support of that coming back? Because you know, we always know racism and stuff. It exists, but when you see.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  They went extra hard. I don't understand.

• 3:26Keke Palmer?

  Even with the whole BuzzFeed thing.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  No, yeah, so that was crazy to me because like I said, I wasn't seeing everything at first. I just kept seeing, before I even seen the hate really, I just seen so much people defending us, defending me. And I was just like, you know, I don't even know what was said, but I don't even want to know what was said. But then like the BuzzFeed thing popped up and I'm like, why am I eating a knuckle sandwich? Like, what did I do to y'all? I'm confused. Oh, that's what she was talking to you about. Yeah, I was like, why would y'all give me that? And there was just so much other stuff where it was just like, where is this even coming from? Like, how did it even get to this? Because on the inside, we have a whole different life than what is out there. So it's like. I really don't understand what made y'all think that we were these mean girls and this and that and all this stuff. My family, they obviously were very devastated to see. I just was happy to see so many people's support. So even seeing you always standing up for us and speaking for us, like, that really meant a lot.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Cause I'm like, yo, y'all don't understand, I love her. So to see my favorites like defending us and stuff, just means the world. Cause it's like, you guys, you guys are black women as well too. And really, speaking and using your voice means a lot, not only to me, but a lot of people who were supporting us and rocking with us. So I was just happy to see that.

• 4:28Keke Palmer?

  Well, even though you guys are having an authentic life experience, maybe you're not performing, you're entertaining, you're still representing.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  No, absolutely, yeah.

• 4:33Keke Palmer?

  I think that you represented very, very well. One thing I love so much about you, Alandria, on the show, especially seeing your journey was like, in the beginning, it's like, okay, she's quiet, she's not doing too much, you know, she's reserved. And I wasn't sure if that was you, or that was just you carrying the weight of being this black girl on this show.

• 4:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, for sure.

• 4:48Keke Palmer?

  But one thing I really loved, and we'll get into the depths of all of it, but there was a moment where you kind of really stepped outside of yourself, outside of what a lot of times, black women, we're not allowed to be like, vulnerable and say, hey, I want this, I want you. Immediately, we're told we're weak, or we're, it's seen as soft, but it's like, you owned that moment. No matter what happened with you and Taylor, you owned the moment of saying, I want you, I'm going for this. And that meant a lot to me, because we do not get to do that. We always gotta be so like, uh, and at the end of the day, uh, come on to the curb.

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  That was me prior to the experience. That was me prior to coming into the villa. So I kind of just wanted to come into this experience with a different angle. It was like, you know what, Alandria, like, don't come here, in here with old habits.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:26Speaker 02

  Let's try to progress and move forward. And obviously, me doing that, like, now I feel like, [BLEEP], cause I'm like, what [BLEEP] did I do that for? But it's just like, I don't know.

• 5:33Keke Palmer?

  It made me mad, the outcome, like, it made so many of us angry. But I was like, I hope people still can see that, that's how we should come and live our truth. Because you have no regrets.

• 5:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:43Keke Palmer?

  Because you know you put everything you had forward. And so I really wanted to applaud you for that, because we have to see that. We have to see each other go for it, no matter where it goes.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 5:51Keke Palmer?

  Um, now, let's talk about the beginning. What made you even want to go on Love Island? Because it's kind of scary, guys. Everybody on there is very sexy.

• 6:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:00Keke Palmer?

  Obviously, that was no issue for you two, but it's still nerve-wracking. You know what I mean? You gotta put your business out there.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  You really have to put yourself out there.

• 6:08Keke Palmer?

  You don't even know if the guys are gonna be fine.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 6:09Keke Palmer?

  That was my biggest concern.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  I was worried, oh my god. Please don't let these men be ugly.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  If it ain't no fine shit, I'm fine.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  I'm outta here, like alright, let me go.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  I said it on episode one, that's funny.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Right, I was really waiting every second, like behind, like before we got out there, it was like, I kept asking like, "So do the guys look good? Can you at least tell me that?" Like, please just tell me that, but um, no, I, to be honest, what made me want to go on there was like, in the beginning, like last season, they had reached out, and that's how I found out about the show. So they were like, "Oh, are you interested in this?" I'm like, "What show was this?" So then I ended up watching all of season six, and I was like, "Hmm, I like this, like, I think I would, like, if I, if this is the way I could find love, like, I wanna try it." I done the, you know, usually I date in the circle of my friends, cuz I don't know, dating strangers is like, whatever. So, it was something new to try, and seeing that so many successful relationships did come out of it, I'm like, "Okay, so, I wanna do this," you know, I was excited, so that was my reason.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  No, for sure, um, I've been single for what, like, five years now, so I was taking an opportunity, like, you know what, let me just go try to go find love. Um, they originally reached out to me in 2023, um, and then 2024 for season six, and then again, this year.

• 7:13Speaker 01

  They said, "We not letting you up." Right.

• 7:15Keke Palmer?

  Now you know it's gonna be a star.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Man, I was like, "They on me bad, let me just go on there, go on the show." And I'm happy that I did, regardless of like, the perception that's put up, um, of me out there, it's like, I'm still happy that I did.

• 7:26Keke Palmer?

  I mean, and what did y'all think about being OGs? And if they would've asked y'all to be Casa More Girls, what would you have said?

• 7:31Speaker 01

  I'm very clear in the beginning that I wanna be a Casa More Girl. Like, I was like, "There's no way." It's not giving bomb shows, it's not giving Casa. It's giving OGs, so I was manifesting that hell out of that, I'm like, "Look, I know I'm walking to that villa one way or the other." So the fact that we both walked in there first together, I was just like, "Wow." And we would always like, just go back to that throughout the whole season, we would go back to that, like, yo, "We are the first ones who walked in here together, we're still sitting here, experiencing all of this, like, this is crazy." Cuz not everybody could say they walked in and really made it to the end, you know? So, that was something that was just so crazy.

• 8:02Keke Palmer?

  And from the beginning, me and my, my friend and my makeup artist Kenya, by the way, she, she says she wanna beat y'all face whenever y'all want.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  Period, yeah.

• 8:09Keke Palmer?

  We were both like, "Did you see the new girls, Shelly and Alondra, they're bad as hell, you say they're so pretty." We were so excited to see y'all come up in the house, cuz you know, you be so, like, we're gonna be the main new girls, you know? So we were living for you guys. What did y'all's family say?

• 8:24Speaker 01

  About us going on the show?

• 8:25Keke Palmer?

  Yes, like were they like?

• 8:25Speaker 01

  They were so supportive. My dad told me to be wholesome and a pure though. He begged me.

• 8:30Keke Palmer?

  Baby, you did not.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  But I told him. He was like, all I ask is that you be wholesome and pure, please. I said, do you know the show that I'm going on? Like, that's not happening. Like, I just recommend that you don't watch.

• 8:42Keke Palmer?

  But you, but you also were giving, like, even though you were like letting us know, like, I'm out here in the streets having my fun, you still were giving that wholesome back.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  No, yeah, for sure.

• 8:49Keke Palmer?

  As a fellow queer girly, I was living for the questionnaire answers.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 8:52Keke Palmer?

  When I was finding out about your life.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  Hey, y'all know my tea. No, but I loved it.

• 8:57Keke Palmer?

  How do they, how do they get that information? Like, do they ask y'all that beforehand?

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, before we got on there, it's like a whole, like, we had to fill out a big form. Like, there's a whole process to even be a islander. So, it was asking questions like that about your personal life and stuff, like, in detail. All these crazy questions. So, now, knowing we did that long ass application, it makes sense when we were doing the challenge, like, oh, that's where you went all my business.

• 9:19Keke Palmer?

  And do y'all feel like everybody told the truth on that thing?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  No, the boys, they were lying.

• 9:24Keke Palmer?

  Cause every time, it's like, how am I trusted? Like, I'm like, a thousand?

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:28Keke Palmer?

  A thousand, I mean, actually Austin?

• 9:30Speaker 02

  No, Austin, no, he's lying. He's not lying.

• 9:33Keke Palmer?

  Okay, Austin, I need to know about Austin, because I was in confusion, right? Obviously, everybody has different chemistries and connections.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:41Keke Palmer?

  Ace and him, so different. Chris, Ace and him, so different. But Chris and Ace, not so different. I mean, was there a real romance between you and Austin? Or was he just a fun guy to be around?

• 9:53Speaker 01

  No, there really was, and like, I really was trying, but like...

• 9:56Keke Palmer?

  I mean, he's handsome.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  You know, he is, and I told him that. I'm like, yo, you look good. You look good, that's not the problem.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  No, tell him how you realized you liked, you liked Austin. Where were you at? No, tell him.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  I woke up one morning and I was sitting on the toilet, and I was like, I was like, I actually like Austin, wow. Like, I'm just thinking of all our time that we're spending. And I came out the bathroom, like a Landry, I just like had a realization, like, I like Austin. Like, I really wanted to get to know him, but, you know, things went how they went. And, I mean, glad it did went how it went, you know?

• 10:24Keke Palmer?

  But that's how it can be with guys that, that are like, we wouldn't necessarily go to. But when somebody is nice and they keep, I mean, he was really insistent upon building that connection with you, and he was so hurt. Every time when you and me were Ace, Ace wasn't playing with your ass.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  He wasn't.

• 10:40Keke Palmer?

  Like, I mean, just messed up. But yeah, it worked out how it worked out. It is what it is. How did you feel leaving the house and when you guys got eliminated?

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Um.

• 10:48Keke Palmer?

  You and Ace?

• 10:49Speaker 01

  It was like a bittersweet thing. Like, honestly, at that point, I think I was tired. And also, it's the thing of like, I have my person. Like, I won already. Like, at this point, we're just sitting here trying to figure out, like, okay, what's next and stuff. So even before that happened, I remember we were all sitting down having a conversation. We didn't know there was gonna be elimination. So when it did come up that we were just having a conversation of what if? I remember saying to them, like, yo, if there's elimination tonight, nobody cry. Because we're gonna see each other, like, next week. Like, we done had so many tears this season and stuff. Like, we had a great season together.

• 11:18Keke Palmer?

  I know you guys did get tired of the crying.

• 11:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it was like. And that's the most I've ever cried in my life. So I'm like, yo, this is a lot.

• 11:24Keke Palmer?

  They're putting you on. So it's like, you're like, oh, and then after a while, you're like in a horror movie. They did now.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 11:30Speaker 02

  Literally. You have no time to process no emotions.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  But honestly, I was just like, bittersweet. I'm like, damn, it's sad that I won't wake up with you guys the next day. Because literally, I even said to them, like, before we got the text, I was like, one of my highs is, like, waking up in the villa every day. Like, I'm happy I get to wake up with you guys. Then boom, text, someone's going home. My damn, that was quick.

• 11:48Keke Palmer?

  Now, what I mean, speaking of, I have to ask this because of the logistics of how the show works. Like, you guys have to wake up at a certain time. Do you make, like, what, tell me the schedule of this all?

• 11:57Speaker 01

  Um, wake up, make up.

• 11:59Keke Palmer?

  What time? What time do you have to wake up?

• 12:02Speaker 02

  We don't know. We don't know time. We don't know the day. We don't know like the day of the week. We don't know nothing.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  But honestly, I think it helps because, you know, usually when you're somewhere where the time changes, the day changes, like, you would have to adjust coming back to the US. But like, I haven't had to adjust. Like, I'm right back on track with my sleeping schedule and everything. And I want to say it's because I never knew the date or the time. So maybe that's what it is.

• 12:28Keke Palmer?

  Maybe Love Island has figured out how we should be living in our life. Maybe. They might be on to something. Whenever I arrive.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Every time we were asked for the time, they'd be like, we on island time. I'm like, you know what, hell yeah. We on island time.

• 12:45Keke Palmer?

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• 13:29Keke Palmer?

  Trust me, you're gonna have a time. Baby, I have never, and I mean never, been more devastated than when I found out that some of y'all been sneaking around behind Domino's back just to get your stuffed crust fix. Now, you know us Virgos are incredibly loyal, steadfast even. Cheating, especially on something as serious as Parmesan stuffed crust pizza, ain't gonna fly in this house. I saw y'all slide into those other pizza spots' drive-throughs, ordering that cheese-filled crust like Domino's, and I wouldn't find out about your little rendezvous. But sweetie, the healing starts today because Domino's just dropped their own stuffed crust, and now y'all got no excuse to keep stepping out on them like this. It's time to put those pizza-cheating ways to rest.

• 14:14Keke Palmer?

  Domino's new Parmesan stuffed crust is serving pure decadence with that buttery, handmade dough wrapped around a cascading stream of 100% melty goodness. These are the cheese pools of your dreams. It's very much a goofy movie level of ooey gooey cheesy deliciousness. And of course, your girl can't forget about that signature garlic seasoning and Parmesan sprinkle dance on top of that perfectly baked crust, making every single taste taste like it was blessed by the pizza gods themselves. Can think about it now. I'm already imagining the Parm stuffed pie I've been plotting on. Next time I'm placing my order, you best believe I'm having mushrooms, grilled onions, and some extra peppers just to, you know, keep the vegetables on top. Now, this is the kind of commitment I'm talking about.

• 14:58Keke Palmer?

  No more pizza cheating needed when Domino's is bringing this level of excellence to the table. Order Domino's new Parmesan stuffed crust pizza on the Domino's app and use code KIKI to get any three topping Parmesan stuffed crust pizza for $11.99. Price is higher for some locations. You must ask for this limited time offer. Prices, participation, delivery area, and charges may vary. Delivery orders subject to local store's delivery charge. I'll let you girl.

• 15:28Keke Palmer?

  Okay, Alandra, we have to talk about the beginning when you found, you know, your assumed first house love.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:34Keke Palmer?

  Taylor. What was going through your mind? Why was he the person? Because I'll be honest, I was, I was you watching the show. I'm like, I like Taylor a lot. Like, I immediately thought he was quirky, he was cool. He seemed like a real guy in the world. Because sometimes on these shows, the people can seem so perfected.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 15:49Keke Palmer?

  So, tell me about your initial thoughts and, you know, why you spent time on Taylor?

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Um, so coming into the villa, I expressed to Shelly, I love countrymen. That's something that's no secret. I am from Alabama. I truly feel like countrymen just value the same things I value. They like to open doors, get you flowers. They're just very gentleman, like, you know, gentleman like. So, when I seen him came in with the cowboy hat, Shelly was like, that's you. Already, like, that's you, that's your person, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you know what? Hell, yeah, you right, you right.

• 16:17Keke Palmer?

  He's a cowboy.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  So, um, obviously, when I decided to kiss him and Nick, I'm like, you know, I'm gonna go with Taylor. I feel like, you know, he probably already possessed those values and those morals I'm looking for in a man. Let me just go with him. And he is super sweet, a super sweet guy. Was very nice to all the girls. He was like, you remember, I was everyone's tea orders, coffee orders, breakfast. Like, he was just so attention to detail, and I love that in a person. So that's what kind of just attracted me to Taylor.

• 16:40Keke Palmer?

  And then, when you think back on it now, because obviously hindsight's 2020. Yeah, we saw the connections with you and Nick in the challenges. But like, what was happening around the house that maybe we didn't see that would lead to where you guys ended up?

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Me and Nick?

• 16:53Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, you and Nick.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  It's so crazy, because I'm looking back at all these edits. I'm like, damn, like, the signs, it looked like the signs is there, but when you're in the villa, it was not that apparent to me. I'm like, bro, like... I seen that it's happening on these edits, but like in the village, I just didn't see it.

• 17:06Keke Palmer?

  I mean, it was one challenge, me and my mom were like, my mom was like, they won't leave that girl alone.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh.

• 17:11Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh. I was like, that's how I know everybody like her. They wouldn't stop with you.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Literally, I'm like, I should not just pick somebody else. I picked Shelly to go in there.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  And mind you, it really is that, like, it was a random choice thing, too, and she literally just kept getting picked every single time. I'm like, damn, girl, I know that's right.

• 17:28Keke Palmer?

  I know it was crazy. I mean, when you guys think back on those challenges, how did they get you guys prepared for all the germs? I mean, you're in mouth.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:36Keke Palmer?

  Do they like, I mean, y'all just go for it, I guess. Y'all just trust each other.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  We get some mouth spray.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  No, but prior to even coming on the show, we was like tested a lot.

• 17:44Keke Palmer?

  Oh, that's so good, because that's scary.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Put that out there, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm not going on the show, I'm just kissing everybody, we're not getting tested.

• 17:51Keke Palmer?

  Exactly, but it was fun for the most part, nothing weird, no crazy, okay, good, that's good.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  And everybody was on the same page, too, like, oh, you okay with kissing? Okay, cool.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:00Keke Palmer?

  You know what was so interesting with Aces in the beginning? I wasn't sure if this was stuff that just wasn't shown on camera, but he was very like, don't touch me.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:07Keke Palmer?

  To so many people, but he was cool with you touching him.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  No.

• 18:10Keke Palmer?

  But what was his thing with that? Was it just he didn't want to show it on camera? He was very like.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  No, no, it seemed like that, but he really was not like that in person. Everybody, like, I don't know, like, I haven't seen, like, what everyone else seen, but in person, he wasn't like that with everybody. Like, at nighttime, he was giving everyone hugs, going to sleep and stuff, so that's why we're like.

• 18:27Keke Palmer?

  It was like he thought I was vampires and he had God in front of him.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  He's not like that.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  He's a hugger.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a hugger. That's why, when we came back and even seeing that thing being a thing, it was just like, what, like, why are people saying that?

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Like, what happened?

• 18:40Speaker 02

  There was a lot of moments, I'm like, what the hell y'all talking about? I'm like, you know what, let me just.

• 18:43Keke Palmer?

  So how is it now with you, Aces, speaking of that, you guys being back, how has it been jumping? I mean, you live, y'all live in, I live in Florida, he lives here in L.A. Yeah, so have you guys seen each other?

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, I've been with him ever since we landed, like, that's who I've been with this whole time. So we, we've been taking our little social media break, but I'm with him 24/7.

• 19:02Keke Palmer?

  No, God.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  That's why I'm here.

• 19:03Keke Palmer?

  So wait a minute, how is the vibe being back and what was the moment where you were like, oh? This is us normal. Now, obviously, the internet was trying to get on y'all. Like, y'all been dating before the show, and y'all knew each other, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So how did y'all feel about that? And then...

• 19:18Speaker 01

  Well, that, I mean, that was crazy. That was annoying, just because it's like, a lot of us knew each other on the show. Like, and we already, like, when he came in, he already addressed, like, oh, shoot, I know you. And when I seen him walking in, I'm like, what the [bleep] is he doing here? Like, you know, we did meet before. So it was like, but it was a one-time thing. Like, everyone makes it seem like we were kicking it. Somebody said we had kids for two years. We've been living together for two years. We got kids, this and that. I'm like, y'all, be for real. Like, I even knew Amaya, I know Andrena, like, all, everybody knew somebody.

• 19:43Keke Palmer?

  Now, why did everybody get an accent when Andrena came?

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Because we were trying to say her name right.

• 19:47Keke Palmer?

  That was crazy. Everybody was like, doing everything else regularly. And soon as she came in, everybody said, "Andrena."

• 19:51Speaker 02

  No, she didn't play by her name. She did not play by her name.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  You could not mispronounce it. Everyone kept saying anything. So we'd ask her, like, how do you say it, though? We want to make sure we're saying it right. Like, so you feel comfortable, like, you know, we saying your name.

• 20:01Keke Palmer?

  That had me gagged. I'm like, everybody turning Latina.

• 20:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:05Keke Palmer?

  Okay? Now, going back to the Taylor thing, I'm curious for you, as her friend.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:10Keke Palmer?

  I mean, did you feel like Taylor would let her own be the world? Or did you feel like, what did you think, seeing the connection? How it transpired, and then seeing how quickly?

• 20:18Speaker 01

  How it changed.

• 20:18Keke Palmer?

  He was just like, "We Clark."

• 20:20Speaker 01

  I, to me, like, in the moment, it didn't feel like he was leading her on. Because Taylor and I were close. Like, we, he would always come to me and vent about Alandria, asking me for advice, and this and that. Like, what do I do? Whatever, whatever. So to me, I thought he was like, you know, genuinely interested, trying to figure this out, trying to navigate the relationship and stuff. I was very shocked to find out when we came back from costume, where that he, when he did make that decision.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  On those bleachers, like, what the [bleep]?

• 20:43Speaker 01

  I was just very shocked. Because I'm like, did you communicate your feelings before this?

• 20:46Speaker 02

  So what's been put out there is not how it was in the villa at all. Like, I'm not a head over heels for a man that does not like me, or wasn't physically attracted to me. None of that was told to me. You think I would be going hard for a man that does not find me physically attractive? I would have rather just been his friend.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  I didn't see that he wasn't interested.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  So like Amaya said, don't [bleep] drink it. You know what I mean? So it's just like...

• 21:02Keke Palmer?

  And so what, were there any moments off of the camera that, that, that led to? First of all, you kept your cool for a long time, mama. I was blown away at your ability. Until, what was it, the, which challenge was?

• 21:14Speaker 01

  Stand on business.

• 21:14Keke Palmer?

  Stand on business, where you really? So let me go there, to there then. What was the buildup from probably the shock of what was going on to you actually voicing? How you truly felt without holding back? What got you to the point of saying, "I can say exactly what I want to feel and not be afraid of how it's going to be judged or perceived?"

• 21:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, honestly, I just got tired of just keeping quiet. I got tired of just being this strong woman. I feel like that got me overlooked and got my feelings overlooked. I truly feel like since I wasn't showing emotion, I wasn't crying. People was like, "You know what? She can take it, she can take it, she can take it." Besides me being a strong woman, I'm also human and I can only take so much. So I just literally had a conversation with Shelly and she was basically playing like devil's advocate. Like, "You know what, Alandry? Like, you're still here." Taylor had told me that he voiced to keep me here. I'm not really sure how that's being perceived either, but he voiced to keep me here. That's what he said to me.

• 22:04Keke Palmer?

  Great.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  And so, you know, Shelly was like, "You know what? That kind of changes things." He also said he was still open to getting to know you both. So she was like, "You know what? Regardless of how many other connections you make, they will not be up to like the level that you and Taylor are at." So still continuing to water that connection. So when I went to him, I was like, "Hey." I was ready to cut it off. Like, and she was like, "You know what? Uh, I don't think that's a good idea. Still go to him, still talk to him." So I was like, "You know what, Tay? Okay, cool." I know at one point you still say you still want to explore both of us. How does that look for you? Like, how are you going to navigate that? Because obviously it's going to be kind of hard to do that. And he was like, "You know, I'm gonna figure it out." Like, "I still want to explore both of y'all. I'm interested in both of y'all, so I'm just gonna figure it out." So after he said that, and I didn't see him doing it, I'm like, "You know what? I'm finna clock your [BLEEP] stand up."

• 22:42Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, because what was going...

• 22:43Speaker 02

  I went up to it.

• 22:43Keke Palmer?

  Because my big thing was, I'm fine with the getting to know Clark. I mean, this is the nature of the show. What blew me was, where's all this respect that you're having for Clark and not doing this and not doing that? You can't even kiss nobody in a challenge. Where was that with me?

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:59Keke Palmer?

  I mean, what, I mean, did he have any answers for this? I mean, what was the reasoning?

• 23:02Speaker 02

  Uh, I know he mentioned the day two, the Blindfold Challenge. He did not kiss anybody. And that's when I chose to kiss Ace at the time. He was like, "I ain't kissed anybody." So like, he did have like some level of respect in regards to that.

• 23:15Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Me, a challenge is a challenge, I'm gonna take it, I'm gonna do it anyway.

• 23:18Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Uh, so he was like, "Okay, that's kind of throwing me off." But, I don't know. I don't know, maybe his connection with Clark is just way more, he just, I don't know.

• 23:24Keke Palmer?

  Well, I mean, that is reality. It can happen. People can just immediately love at first sight, whatever you want to call it.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  And I respect that. I respect, I was not upset that he found a new connection. I was just upset on how he went about it.

• 23:34Keke Palmer?

  Oh, went about it, yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 23:35Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, how you went about it and you literally let my...

• 23:37Speaker 02

  I'm so happy that he found somebody.

• 23:37Keke Palmer?

  My Love Island life was on the line.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 23:39Keke Palmer?

  Because a couple of times, we thought we were gonna lose you. And by the way, the internet was best.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  I know, bro, literally. When they dumped me from Casa, I was like, oh, America's not gonna like this. Mind you, I don't know what America thinks.

• 23:51Keke Palmer?

  I love that you do.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  They could hate me. And I was looking at them like, oh, America's not gonna like this. Like, they don't play about me. I didn't even know America really did not play about me. They really don't play about me, for real. So I already had a feeling. Like, bro, I've been so on my P's and Q's in here.

• 24:03Keke Palmer?

  So then the crazy thing happened, and, you know, this is when I was talking to my girls, and they're like, you need to see episode 23, I think it was, 22 or 23, or whatever, when the whole Nick bomb happened. And he was like, you're the most beautiful, and I just, you know, this is what I always felt. What were you thinking, girl? Like, what was... Because you're going through a crazy thing, right? You just got off, now you somehow are back on. You're finding out about this stuff with Taylor.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:27Keke Palmer?

  And then you have Taylor's friend, and also one of your friend's guy, telling you that he's actually always had feelings for you. What was going through your mind? Did you believe it? Did you think at any point, this is some TV show stuff?

• 24:38Speaker 02

  No, I couldn't believe it in a sense, because any chance that Nick got to pick me for a challenge, he did.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  He was choosing you.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  It's so funny, because now I'm reading on the internet with the whole kiss or pie thing. It was like, you know, choosing who I want to kiss other than your partner, or something like that. I'm like, that was like, that damn card did not say that. I don't know if he said that or not, but he chose me. I'm like, okay. So he keeps choosing me for these challenges. So in my head, I'm like, I think something is there with Nick. Mind you, I still don't know that he kissed me on day two. I know I kissed him on day one, but I'm like, I don't know. Because where I'm from, Alabama, a lot of men that look like him are very traditional. Because Alabama's a very traditional state. So I kind of like just like, closed myself off to that connection. I'm like, you know what, I don't think I'm your type. I don't know. But he was like, no, you're definitely my type, and I definitely like you, and I definitely want you. So I'm like, okay, cool. Like, maybe I was not, you know, being too crazy about looking into these challenges a little more deeper than what I...

• 25:28Keke Palmer?

  And so then it was like a pump fake, because the second kiss outside of the challenge happened, and then you guys were like, oh no, maybe it's not that. What was that about, and what led you to ultimately being serious, being open to him?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  Honestly, just look down in his hands.

• 25:42Keke Palmer?

  What you gotta say?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Girl, why you ask this question? Okay, cool. I felt like, because I had just came back from Casa, although I just got dumped.

• 25:49Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  I felt like I owed so much to Ciara, because I knew how she was going... Yeah, she was going through it at Casa, because she was thinking my Nick so much. I'm like, bro, I feel like I'm doing a disservice to her. Um, I'm preaching sisterhood and all these things, I'm like, bro... This doesn't feel right. Even if I did feel a spark, I just made myself not feel it. Cause I'm like, bro, I feel like I owe her so much. I know she's over there really missing him. She's hoping to come back to him in his place. What if I? I didn't feel right just jumping in like, you know what? I feel something. I know you feel so strongly about me. Let's, let's.

• 26:14Keke Palmer?

  You were being respectful.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Yes, I was being so respectful towards her and Taylor too. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I feel like I owe Taylor so much as well because he, in a sense, was still trying with me also, even if it's not being perceived that way on TV. That's what was going on. So I'm like, bro, I feel like I owe them so much. I don't, this feels weird to me. So Nick was like, yeah, me too. You know?

• 26:32Keke Palmer?

  Yes, cause that is how y'all look. Y'all did look like, yeah. And it was like, what is all that?

• 26:37Speaker 02

  You know, it was like, this. Yeah, so.

• 26:40Keke Palmer?

  So obviously Ciara leaves the show. Let's talk about that. What did y'all think? What was going on? Obviously, there was a lot of education happening on the real side of the world when that whole went down, when she said what she said. I'm sure you guys know if you haven't watched. Ciara said a derogatory term about Asian Americans or Asian culture. And she got removed from the show. How was it presented to y'all? What did y'all think?

• 27:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, we didn't, we just know she was removed. We didn't know what she did.

• 27:07Keke Palmer?

  Why?

• 27:08Speaker 02

  No. No.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  It was just like, okay, one day we're chilling.

• 27:13Keke Palmer?

  Basically, so was there tear shed? Was it, were you guys just kinda like, I mean, you know, I mean, how did you feel about her being gone? Were you, was you really close to her like?

• 27:22Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, well, with Ciara, I definitely cried because it was like, you guys don't get to see the friendships that we build in there. Like, you know, they're focused on the romantic relationships of it all, but that was like really a friend of ours. So to know that one second we're all chilling and stuff and the next second like, oh guys, so she has to leave the island. We're like, what?

• 27:39Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  And even that morning, we were talking about like how grateful we are that we're here together and like, you know, time is almost up. And I was like, girl, don't even say that. Like, we're not there yet. So let's focus on the now.

• 27:49Keke Palmer?

  You weren't.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  A couple hours later, no, but a couple hours later, it's like, oop, taken away. So it was just like, damn, like, this is crazy. Like, you never know what to expect.

• 27:57Keke Palmer?

  Man, okay, so then she's removed. I do believe that obviously created more space for you and Nick. But what do you think now? I mean, first of all, the show's ended. I want to ask you the same thing I asked her about her and Ace. How is it with you and Nick? What has the conversation been now that you guys are, you know, in the real world?

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Um, the conversation is pretty much still the same. We want to continue to go at the pace that we're going. Um, obviously, like, we had a conversation yesterday. He was like, "Bro, I'm feeling a lot of, a lot of pressure from the media." You know what I mean? Um, he was like, "I think we should continue to go at the pace we're going." There's no reason for us to like, to jump ship just because they want, you know what I mean? So, I don't know. We still like each other. Our connection is very much genuine, even if people are questioning it. Because the first time, there was no spark. I feel like we owe so much respect to the current partners of whatever. So, we're gonna continue to just go at our own pace and enjoy each other's company.

• 28:44Keke Palmer?

  And so, I mean, has he told you he's heard from Ciara? Do you think Ciara's gonna reach out? I know she unfollowed him.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 28:50Keke Palmer?

  But, you know, what's the tea on that?

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Um, he said that she has not reached out to him.

• 28:56Keke Palmer?

  Really?

• 28:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:59Keke Palmer?

  So, the reunion, I guess, is gonna be looking like something. Is she gonna be there?

• 29:03Speaker 02

  I have no idea. We don't know yet.

• 29:06Keke Palmer?

  The brand has cut ties.

• 29:09Keke Palmer?

  Wow. I mean, that, that is just so curious to me. Because I'd imagine for her, that was something that slowly started to become nerve-wracking for her. You know, with you guys having that sideline connection. And then to see you guys end up becoming, I mean, Nickelandria. You became one of the most popular favorite couples.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  That blew my mind. I did not know that existed until my mom came. She was like, "Girl, they love you. They love y'all." I'm like, "What? Whoa, hold on."

• 29:29Keke Palmer?

  First of all, your mom, let's get into that. Because why was your... When you said genetics, you wasn't lying. Because your mama is everything.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  Girl, she is, mommy.

• 29:36Keke Palmer?

  Girl, she's that girl.

• 29:38Speaker 02

  She is that girl, for sure.

• 29:39Keke Palmer?

  I already loved her. That was so cute. But how was that, like, getting to that point and like, "Oh, my gosh, we get to see family." And I mean, you guys, that was a lot that was happening.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  It was so emotional. Like, we were crying seeing everybody else's family come in. Then all of our family came in. We were just so excited. Like, that was crazy for them to be in Fiji. Like, we expected them to just be on the TV. So, for them to walk in on the island, we're like, "Yo, y'all really flew out here to see us." That's crazy.

• 30:02Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh. Wow. What is one thing that you feel like we didn't get a chance to see on the show? Or feel through the show? Um, that, you know, because of the way that it was edited?

• 30:12Speaker 01

  Everyone's genuine connections with one another. Like, the way each of us, like, we always said, something we said every day was like, yo, they did a great job putting us all together because our personalities bounce off each other so well. So I don't feel like, some people may think this person, that person, never spoke ever in the villa. The whole time, we all speak to one another. Like, we're all very close and stuff. So I think that would be my answer, is just our genuine connections with all of us, you know? Same for you?

• 30:38Speaker 02

  No, literally same. Because coming out here, my bro, what, what, when did that happen? You know what I mean? Like, uh.

• 30:44Keke Palmer?

  Well, one thing that people were also talking about was when you guys came back, when y'all surprised everybody, you and, um, Nick surprised everybody in the villa. Taylor seemed to have, just went straight to Nick and didn't even really immediately show love to you. Did you, did it feel like that in the house? Or was that the way with everybody?

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Honestly, it would have been the same one with the girls, too. I literally talked to them, mother, like, bro, they literally just cried their eyes out about Nick. So of course they're gonna, you know what I'm saying, embrace him first. And then after, all of them came to hug me. But that was not a shocker at all. Because the girls would have did the exact same thing.

• 31:11Keke Palmer?

  Okay, now let's get into the whole girl's girl thing. Because that's become a big language around the show. And honestly, even a lot of people online have been talking about how they felt like that concept even ruined the show. Because it's like, this is Love Island, not Girls Island. And then also, a lot of people are saying, they're a girl's girl, but they're just using it to make it seem like they are, even though they're doing things that don't really make you a girl's girl. So what does a girl's girl mean to y'all?

• 31:35Speaker 01

  To me, what girl's girl means to me is like, people have this perception of like, it means only the people you care about and you call your homegirl. That means I'm a stand-up for you, I'm gonna stick beside you through whatever. I'm gonna, like, you could do no wrong in my eyes type of thing. But that's not me. Me is like, any woman that walks into the room, I have your back. Because like, you're a woman just like me, we go through the same thing. Like, I'm not gonna stay here. Like, there was instances where it's like, it felt like somebody who just came in is being treated some type of way for reasons they have no control of. They're just here to experience their experience. And in that moment, I wasn't ever gonna be like, oh, boy, my friend is talking to this person, so I'm not talking to you. It was like, no, you're here, this experience is just as much as yours as it's mine. So it's like, I want you to feel comfortable, I want you to feel like you could go around and get to know people and not feel like everyone is piercing their eyes on you and stuff. So it was just really genuinely having a woman's back.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Now, if you start being shady to me, I might take a couple steps back. But my first intention is always to like, make sure you feel comfortable, you feel good, you feel seen, you feel heard. So that's a girl's girl to me. Same, Zayn?

• 32:30Speaker 02

  Same, literally. Word for word.

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• 34:07Keke Palmer?

  Okay, what didn't we see that happened during the heart rate challenge? Well, you knew it was coming.

• 34:14Keke Palmer?

  What didn't we see, and maybe we saw it all, that also led to you being upset with Huda? By the way, maybe it's a Virgo thing, but I would have been pissed because what the hell, mama? What the hell, mama? Get your man's heart rate up!

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:29Keke Palmer?

  The hell are you doing?

• 34:30Speaker 01

  To be honest, I don't know what. Like, I still have not watched the episodes back. So that's my thing is that I don't know what you guys saw that everyone felt like I was so wrong.

• 34:38Keke Palmer?

  You wasn't, girl!

• 34:39Speaker 01

  And I'm like, I don't understand. No, then we wrong because ain't no way. I was like, what did y'all see for y'all to feel like I'm wrong for being upset?

• 34:46Keke Palmer?

  So this is my thing in my mind. Why you made sense? Ain't nobody saying you can't have fun and do your thing. But it was like you went over and above without putting my sense of security or comfortability.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  And that was my whole point, yeah.

• 35:00Keke Palmer?

  It just wasn't in the room. I'm not gonna go so far because I'm looking for a certain attention or validation or just a moment to shine that I'm not gonna think about how my homegirl might feel.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 35:09Keke Palmer?

  And I liked when you brought up the whole Jeremiah thing because baby, we was all walking around eggshells. I was walking around eggshells watching the show for Huda. Cause I don't want to think I like Jeremiah. You know what I mean? Everybody was going so far.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  I'm like, look girl, nobody was you and Jeremiah. Y'all grandma and grandpa. I always used to tell them that like, nobody is looking at y'all. Like, we know y'all locked in, whatever. No one is doing that.

• 35:30Keke Palmer?

  And so I just didn't get it.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  I didn't get it either.

• 35:33Keke Palmer?

  It was so, to me, it was, it seemed self-serving and just maybe, you know, when people are just so in their own thing. I don't think she set out to hurt you. But you know, sometimes when people are just so in their own thing and just trying to have their own moment, it's like you're not thinking about how that's gonna make the other person feel.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Exactly, yeah.

• 35:47Keke Palmer?

  So, yeah, that, that, that I didn't get why everybody was mad at you about, I guess, you know, I mean, what did you think looking back and seeing online, Alandria? What's your take on it? I mean, you were there in person.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:58Keke Palmer?

  And then now you guys are seeing people's thoughts of it. I mean, what is the difference that some people could have missed? Or were they just so happy that Huda was happy finally again? I don't know.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  I haven't watched the episode, so I don't really know what they aired, but I feel like Shelly had every right to be upset. Huda agreed. She was like, you know what, I did take it too far. Like, you know, I do apologize. Like, she was very apologetic about it. Like, immediately she was almost regretful.

• 36:20Keke Palmer?

  And I guess people felt like, oh, well, you know, she, she, once she said sorry, you should have been cool. You know, but I mean, you weren't.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  My thing is, is like, and we are cool, that's the thing, but it's just like, when it was time, like, say in the beginning when they had their connection, like, when I call somebody, like, especially with the girl's girl thing and someone being my friend, um, I'm always gonna put you first and have consideration for your feelings. So even in something like a challenge, we're not winning no big grand prize after a challenge or anything. Like, it's literally just to say, oh my gosh, you did good in a challenge. So I'm never gonna jeopardize me and someone else's friendship or their comfortability just to say I went crazy in a challenge. So like, someone like Jeremiah, like I said, never kissed that man, ever. Like, you know, I steered clear of him just because I know how intense and passionate you felt about him. So it's like, just to not see that reciprocated. And I, like, I'm trying to understand. I think at one point I told her, I said, I'm really trying to understand you, but I don't.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  Only because I just don't see how a moment like this could cause you to like disregard someone you care about so deeply, your friends. Feelings just to do a performance, like that's what it was for me. So it was just like, okay, like I hear you, I, I.

• 37:22Keke Palmer?

  I really do think it was one of them things where somebody have a lapse of judgment because you're just thinking about, you know, again, I don't know the young lady, I'm sure she's lovely, but thinking about themselves is what I just take from. You know, you're in your moment and you're just trying to let your stuff go and you just get into a vibe. And then you go too far and then, oh, you don't know how to backtrack it. That's what I took from it, but I also felt that how you felt made sense. Because I would have felt the same way, like, they think about me.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm right next to you, I'm right here watching the whole thing, like, it's not like I'm turned away somewhere else, I'm literally right here watching the whole thing.

• 37:53Keke Palmer?

  And what was, I mean, I know Aysen, you had that conversation, he tried to downplay the heart rate, but you can't keep your heart rate under control.

• 37:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, right, you stop breathing.

• 38:00Keke Palmer?

  I was mad at him, stop breathing, man. Girl, that whole moment made me mad.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  Yo, it was crazy.

• 38:06Keke Palmer?

  Um, you guys received a lot of criticism on doing the Steno Business Challenge, right? And you saw how people were feeling online, it was upsetting, it was a lot of stuff, I mean, walk me through how you were feeling, what, what were some of the, and, and then they said that the, actually the challenge went on for like, six hours, seven hours.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  So, again, like, I can't, like, to see what people, so many people had think pieces on what happened that night, or how we were, like, what we said and this and that and stuff, and I'm like, you guys got one hour of a six, seven hour night.

• 38:36Keke Palmer?

  Exactly.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  So, I don't know what y'all saw, but I know it was nothing enough for you to think that you know what happened that night. So, for us to get all that criticism and stuff, I was just like, honestly, I could care less what y'all have to say, because at the end of the day, like, everyone's sitting there, like, at least in the villa, we all were all on the same page of how we felt, and we're just speaking our truth. So, the internet, you're getting whatever mess, like, message that is being put out to you, but we know what happened in there. No one walked away from that conversation feeling like, oh my gosh, you guys did too much, you guys are being mean, da, da, da, da. We all felt like everyone was being real and clear about everything.

• 39:08Keke Palmer?

  And I think that's an important thing that has to be remembered, especially as we. Create this culture where, you know, people's lives are being commented on. I mean, we've been in reality TV world for a long time, but it's becoming major now. Like, I mean, our genera- like, it's like, yo, this is the thing. But these are real people. I really hope that as a society, we can have more nuanced conversations. Where you can have your opinion, but I don't think you need to call CPS. Exactly. That's insane. I heard that. That was crazy. Why would we go that far? Yeah, that is insane.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  That's people's livelihood and families that you're trying to ruin and break up. That's so ridiculous. That's why, to see all this hate and stuff, I'm like, yo, I don't stand for none of that. Like, you guys are doing this and you don't know us. We don't even hate each other the way y'all hating so bad. So it's like, what is going on? Like, who, like, y'all got a lot of time on your hands, yeah.

• 39:52Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, and I seriously do want to say that to anybody that's watching this episode. As we share our opinions and we're talking about the conversation, like, that's all that it is. I, we don't, I know for sure, they don't, I know for sure, I don't wish any harm or ill on anybody. And, you know, let's just keep that in mind when we're commenting on folks and stuff like that. Make sure that we not, you know, don't nobody need to be, uh, truly harmed. You know, you can be shady, boots, but no more than that. Harm, yes. Yeah, don't harm him. Um, have any of y'all spoke to Ciara since everything? Cause I know you said Nick hasn't, but has she reached out to either of you?

• 40:22Speaker 02

  I gotta check. My DMs are flooded.

• 40:24Keke Palmer?

  I know that's right.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Girl, I'm, I'm so overwhelmed, so I'm like, I'm gonna have to literally, probably gonna have to go to her profile to go to her messages to see if she reached out to me, cause she doesn't have my number yet, so.

• 40:32Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 40:33Speaker 02

  I don't know yet.

• 40:34Keke Palmer?

  And you haven't heard from her either?

• 40:34Speaker 01

  No, I did get to speak to her. She did reach out, so, I mean, it's a lot going on.

• 40:39Keke Palmer?

  Breaking news.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I didn't get to, cause, like I said, we didn't know for what reason she got removed. Even when I came back, I couldn't really find what the post was or whatever, but I did see she reached out. And she was just saying, like, you know, she misses all of us, she hates what's happening, you know, like, she's trying to, like, basically do better for herself, like, and just to also, like, reach out to all of us and say her apologies and stuff. So it was just like, okay, well, you know, I really hope you're doing amazing, like, you know, there's a lot happening, like, I know, I'm just trying to give her grace, because it's like, you know, we're human at the end of the day. And I got to know her in the villa as a person through and through, so it's like, you know, all of this that's happening to her, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but, you know, she's taking full account of her stuff and really just trying to, like- Get her mind right.

• 41:22Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, accountability is definitely a big part of it. And again, I hate that any of it happened, but I think there's an opportunity of a lot of people to learn.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Of course, yeah.

• 41:29Keke Palmer?

  So I'm glad for the education and, you know, all of that stuff. And I also do wish her well, too.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 41:34Keke Palmer?

  There was a moment, Alandria, that I really actually liked that you did. It's a very lightweight moment. You were like to Huda, "Don't do that." And then Huda got so, she kind of responded to that very intensely. Now, when you said, "Don't do that," I lived. Because it's like, I don't need, you know, it's like, to me, how I took it was, please don't give me a moment of pity. This, you know, this is no big deal. Like, I'm me, I'm good.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:56Keke Palmer?

  Another day, another dollar. Like, and I thought you were just trying to let her know, like, don't, don't give me the sympathy of this. Because there's nothing to sympathize with. I lived for you for that. And then afterwards, I felt, you know, you kind of were now all of a sudden the bad guy. Or it was all of a sudden so scary. And so that made me want to ask you both, how often did you feel like you had to tone down? You know, as a black woman on a TV show, or just being a minority, or however we want to put it? It's like, if I just sang a peep or something, it's now...

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Taken out of context.

• 42:27Keke Palmer?

  Taken out of context.

• 42:28Speaker 02

  And I'm a bad guy, and I'm a mean girl. Like, it's, it's, it's very exhausting, to say the least. I truly feel like me and Shelly had to tone down a lot.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  To not cross over that boundary, because a person that looks the opposite of us, soon as they get emotional, it's like, oh, we're going to cater to this person. Like, bro, what about us? Like, I don't understand.

• 42:43Keke Palmer?

  There have been multiple seasons, I mean, and even this season included, where I've, we've seen people cuss people full out.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Exactly, yeah.

• 42:50Speaker 02

  Well, let me and her move like that.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  And what's crazy is, is that, you know, a lot of the times, everybody who's in that villa will tell you that they could always come to us for the best advice. Um, to come vent to us, whatever. We're so level-headed, we're so, um, honest, we're so loving, like, we bring everybody a peace of mind, this and that. So to know how your fellow, um, islanders feel versus coming to the internet and seeing mean girl, um, disrespectful, angry, this, that. I'm like, wow, y'all really don't know us.

• 43:17Keke Palmer?

  There's subtle microaggressions. And it's like, just because I'm saying something sternly, it doesn't mean you need to be afraid of me.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 43:23Keke Palmer?

  That's rooted in something that's anti-black.

• 43:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:26Keke Palmer?

  And so it becomes an issue, because now I don't know how to exist in my, in who I am, because I can't... I can't take my skin off. That's what's scaring you. Yeah. You won't be shook. You know what I mean?

• 43:36Speaker 02

  If they were somebody else to look like us and act it like whatever, they wouldn't be getting as much backlash at all.

• 43:40Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, and so, I mean, how does that lead you? Because I do think that's something that I've thought about more in different reality shows and obviously now in this one. The more popularized, I mean, I remember when I was a kid and I would watch Survivor and I would see these elements. I'm like, now wait a minute, what is this? You know, and I feel the same way here. I mean, what do we say to that? And how do we, like, the next generation of young women that are gonna be, black women that are gonna be, or even just multiracial or just non-white, you know? What do you say how they can prepare themselves to be on shows like this? I don't know if there's a way to prepare.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Honestly, all I can say is just be yourself.

• 44:16Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Because you can't even, like, no matter how much you try to have a certain narrative or portray a certain narrative, whatever is put out there is out of your hands, you know? Like, like I said, we've been in the village or in the island with everybody to know that we're like one of the go-to people. People love us so much. Like, we bring, like I said, a sense of home to everyone. And then just to come out here and find out we're mean and this and that. So it's like, you know what? Stick to who you are.

• 44:40Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  Have confidence in yourself and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's it.

• 44:43Keke Palmer?

  I couldn't agree more because at the end of the day, it ends up being like you can't win for losing. So just be yourself. Because in one minute, Alarndra is too stoic, then you step in an old boy's ass real quick and she's doing too much. You see what I'm saying? Like, what the [BLEEP]? Wait a damn minute!

• 44:57Speaker 02

  I can't win for [BLEEP].

• 44:58Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Literally, I'm like, bro, like, what the [BLEEP]?

• 45:01Keke Palmer?

  So hot.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  That shit was... Literally, bro, I was so hot about that [BLEEP].

• 45:06Keke Palmer?

  Oh my gosh, girl, I can only imagine. But I think you guys did a really good job at wavering that balance. And again, like I said, I know it maybe wasn't something that you're prepared for, but you are representing and we appreciate you. You know what I'm saying? Because it's not easy, you know? Um, what did y'all think about the Hooda and Jeremiah thing? Because it had me rolling on the floor when Taylor was like, "Y'all need to stop." Because it must have been probably like, just a lot. I don't know what it was like. For us watching, it was a lot, but what was it like in the house?

• 45:33Speaker 01

  No, it definitely took a toll on everybody, yeah. Everyone was tired. Like, we're like, yo. We didn't come here for this.

• 45:38Keke Palmer?

  What was the reason for it? You know, what was the reason for the drama of it? Because he did seem to truly like her.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  And he did. He did for sure, but I think it's just like the pace of everything being too fast, maybe, like, you know? Maybe that had something to do with it.

• 45:53Keke Palmer?

  Why would Nick do that?

• 45:55Speaker 02

  I don't know, he's crazy.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  I'm such a character.

• 45:57Keke Palmer?

  Mamacita? Like, why was that the response?

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Like, what?

• 46:02Speaker 02

  I wonder about him sometimes.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 46:05Keke Palmer?

  No, he's funny.

• 46:06Speaker 02

  No, he is genuinely funny.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Oh, my gosh. So, yeah, it was just kind of one of those things where it just

• 46:11Keke Palmer?

  be turned into a damn twister before you knew it.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:14Keke Palmer?

  Yeah. Um, where do you stand with Clark? I mean, I know nothing really crazy happened with you guys, but, I mean, other than what went down, but how was it trying to develop a relationship and then, you know, there were some moments where she was mumbling a little things, I mean...

• 46:27Speaker 02

  I just found out about that.

• 46:28Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, it was a little shady. Some shady moments, no shade, no truth.

• 46:31Speaker 02

  And there was never really any shade on my side. Even when she pulled me first, I'm like, dang, like, she made me look a little childish. Like, I don't even have that in me to do that. So, I was like, dang, I respect her so much. I'm like, I kind of wish she was a mean girl, because I wanted to kind of... You know?

• 46:42Keke Palmer?

  Have a little...

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. But it's like, she's so nice and so genuine. I was like, you know what? I have no choice but to be nice to this girl. So, to get out here and to see that she was moving like that with me, like, I'll... You know what I'm saying? Walk by her, she making a face, or she is mocking me. I'm like, bro, what? I was never on that with you. That's just weird to me.

• 46:59Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, it seemed like she, it got competitive because she saw you still have the confidence.

• 47:03Speaker 02

  There's that.

• 47:04Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, because honestly, I truly feel like before I even came into the villa, I already said, like, I feel like my presence intimidate a lot of people, men and women. I go through this so much, I could just walk in the room, oh, I don't like her. I didn't give you a reason to. I'm finna give you a reason to now, you know what I mean? But it's like, my presence really makes people so uncomfortable. Hello. That, and it's natural, Evy. No, no, you know, so no shade to nobody.

• 47:28Keke Palmer?

  But...

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Because I know they're trying to do this whole comparison thing. Oh, she look better. I'm like, well, I'm natural, so if you want to compare me, compare me to the natural thing of whoever that is. That's just, that's just my thing. I don't like that.

• 47:38Keke Palmer?

  Stand on your business, because you deserve that, looking how you look, girl! And being how you are, I mean, you're so lovely.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 47:46Keke Palmer?

  You really are.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 47:47Keke Palmer?

  But, yeah, I know, I agree. And that's why I was asking, like, yeah... You know, is there conversation, is there friendship now that you

• 47:53Speaker 02

  No, we were actually, we were actually genuinely nice to each other. I did not have a problem with Clark. I was not upset that Clark was exploring Taylor or Taylor was exploring Clark. I'm like, you know what, that's what we're here for.

• 48:01Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  I was upset with him because of the way he went about it. He was just was not honest with me. Like, when I'm looking back and I'm seeing, oh, he never found a lady physically attractive. That never came to my ears at all. I would not be going hard for a guy that told me that. Like, if you don't find me physically attractive, I'd rather just be your friend. You know what I'm saying?

• 48:15Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  I'm not finna try to force you to like me. What the [BLEEP].

• 48:18Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  I'm a lady. Be clear. He complimented me like all touchy feely, making me breakfast, making me dinner, lunch, whatever. Always in the kitchen for me cooking. So I'm like, bro, you think I be acting like this over a man that don't like me? Get [BLEEP] real.

• 48:31Keke Palmer?

  And what sign was he?

• 48:32Speaker 02

  Gemini. I, bro, I literally said.

• 48:36Keke Palmer?

  Whenever the signs are together, it can be tough.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  When I first met him, I'm like, what's your birthday? He was like, June 2nd. I'm like, oh, hell no, you're a Gemini. He was like, is something wrong with that? Bro, I called it. I called it.

• 48:45Keke Palmer?

  Damn, I've been in love with some Geminis before. They didn't love me back.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:49Keke Palmer?

  It's tough.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  I'm a Gemini. I'm like, bro, I don't need [BLEEP] like me. I keep saying that.

• 48:52Keke Palmer?

  Right. Because y'all are very, the air signs are very in the air. Y'all are like, mm, mm, mm, mm.

• 48:57Speaker 02

  Literally, literally.

• 48:59Keke Palmer?

  What sign is Ace?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  A Leo.

• 49:00Keke Palmer?

  Okay, Leo is a perfect match.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  They are. So I'm like, that's why we go together real bad.

• 49:05Keke Palmer?

  Is he August or July?

• 49:06Speaker 02

  August.

• 49:07Keke Palmer?

  August what?

• 49:08Speaker 02

  8th.

• 49:08Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my best year is August 9th. That's weird. My best year is August 9th. I'm 26, you're 25.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  25th.

• 49:14Keke Palmer?

  That's crazy. That's a connection.

• 49:17Speaker 02

  It is.

• 49:17Keke Palmer?

  Okay, wait a minute. Brian and Amaya, in game. Did y'all see it coming?

• 49:21Speaker 02

  Honestly, I love Amaya Papaya.

• 49:23Keke Palmer?

  Honey.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  That is my girl.

• 49:25Keke Palmer?

  I'll just tell you how much it really was hurting my feelings. How they weren't letting her live in her culture, in her nature. It seemed like everybody in the beginning, well, not the girls really.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I'm gonna say, we let her live. We loved her.

• 49:36Keke Palmer?

  But the guys, it seemed like, um, they weren't really understanding. It's like they, they didn't get who she was. And that's why I did like when Brian was like, hey, man, this is who she, this is how we are.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  We loved it.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, and that moment, that was the stand on business. And also, he was in another couple too. So it was him really coming from a place of like, just being someone who's in the, like, has the same culture as her.

• 49:58Keke Palmer?

  Yes. And I did think it was important. Because I do feel like it was an educating moment because I did feel like it was a little microaggressive with her in the beginning based on the culture. Like I felt like people were not necessarily immediately getting that it was just her nature and her vibe. And so when he brought that up and said that, I was like, hey, it's not just in my head. But that was a big moment for me because I felt like that was the biggest way that Amaya was misunderstood. Was just living in her culture and people not knowing how to read that or you know, how to take it. And it really just being a culture shock kind of or like a clash type of thing. So I was happy they won. I was definitely happy. I got to know Amaya more. You know, I was happy for her. Um, like we were saying earlier, you were very open with your sexuality coming on the show.

• 50:37Keke Palmer?

  And again, something that empowered me because I also do feel like as women, a lot of times when it comes to our sexual nature or just our appetites, it's gotta be all very, you know, but you were very chill and cool and it was really dope to see. I mean, was there any moment in you that were like, oh, I don't want people to know this or I'm worried about judging? Or how did you even get to that place of being able to just be like that?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  No, I never cared, only because like my parents, they never made me feel like I had to care. Like I remember the first girl that I started talking to or dating, like I remember it was my dad who asked me like, you like girls? And I was like, actually I do. And then he was like, okay, he was like, so you know, what about that? And then we just had a conversation about it. Then my mom, she was like, um, I think I ended up telling her or she said to me, she was like, just so you know, you never have to come out to me or anything. She's like, because the same way you wouldn't come to me and tell me you're, you're dating guys is the same way you don't have to come and tell me you're dating girls. Like you do whatever you want. And I was like, you know what? You're absolutely right. So my thing was always like, I don't care to be put in no label and box like, oh, you're this, you're that. No, I'm just Shelly. I like what I like and I do what I want. That's just it. So I know when I was coming to the show, I was like, you know, I don't care if people know because that's just who I am. So you either take it or you don't.

• 51:45Keke Palmer?

  Uh, I live, live, live. And I know Ace live too, because it seemed like he's the kind of guy that really likes authenticity.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:51Keke Palmer?

  Boldness, people that are living in their truth. And I was really impressed with how we started learning more of that about you.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:58Keke Palmer?

  His response seemed really cool. I mean, in those moments, did y'all have conversations about it afterwards that we maybe didn't see?

• 52:04Speaker 01

  No, it was always like, he just took me for who I am. Like that's it. Like and everything about me, he loves and like. We're literally one in the same, so we're just always on the same page and accord about everything. So it was never a thing where he was like, so about that? He was like, oh, okay, hell yeah. Anyways, and he's not also someone who's like, you know, some guys will make a fetish out of it, like, oh my god.

• 52:22Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, no.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  He's not going for that. He's like, okay, but you like me though, right? And I'm like, hell yeah, like, what do you mean? So, you know, like, he, he's cool.

• 52:29Keke Palmer?

  I mean, when you're learning about what America thinks, let's talk about it, yeah, because I don't even know how you guys feel about it coming out of it. But during the house, when y'all would be learning about the eliminations or just what people votes and everything like that, what was surprising you the most and what had you scratching your head, like, is there something I'm missing?

• 52:46Speaker 01

  You want to go first?

• 52:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, definitely, um, when I was ranking this, from like one through 10, I'm like, hold the hell up, why I shouldn't number nine? She been, what she been saying about me in the damn confessions? I'm thinking like, is she, what the [BLEEP]? I'm second guessing like, oh, hell no, like, this is my soul sister, don't tell me she stabbed me in the back. Like, I really could not fathom why her and Ciara were so low. I'm like, bro, these are my go-to girls, I need to look into that. But it's like, how can I look into that? I have no access to that guy.

• 53:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:11Keke Palmer?

  All I can do is go off of-

• 53:12Speaker 01

  Looking at it is hilarious.

• 53:13Speaker 02

  All I can do is go off of their word. I'm like, bro, this is really rubbing me wrong. So I'm asking Shetland, like, girl, what you do?

• 53:18Speaker 01

  And I'm like, I don't know, because to be honest, it's crazy. Like, I remember seeing Ace being put at the bottom so many times, and I'm looking like, am I missing something? What you was doing at Casa?

• 53:26Keke Palmer?

  Ace was seeming like he was in the back with the producers, playing chess. I'm like, Ace, what do you know? He was always seeming like he knew, and, and you know, it, it's just the way that we're seeing it on the TV. We don't really know what's going on, but I swear, he seemed like he was in Dexter's lab.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  And no-

• 53:43Keke Palmer?

  And I'm like, how does he know this? How can he do this? How does, he seemed like-

• 53:48Speaker 01

  It was so funny to come out and see that he's like this villain or whatever, because we're looking at each other like, what? Like, no one in the, no one in the, um, island thought that he was a villain or anything, or that he ran the show. So it was just like, to see that this is what everyone's saying is crazy.

• 54:03Keke Palmer?

  It was giving me this macho.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  We have to watch, we have to watch, like, we have it yet.

• 54:07Speaker 02

  Reality TV is something, I tell you.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  I have to say that, but even seeing, like, even that challenge she's talking about, when we, it was the islanders who first did the ranking, and we were always high up. Like, everyone thought we were the most genuine and most trustworthy, but then when it came to America, they were on- The opposite of the spectrum. So I'm like, yo, America, what is happening? Like, are y'all seeing what we're seeing? Because we're confused. And again, we don't know what's happening on the outside, what you guys are seeing. So it started having me scratch my head, like, what is being put out there? But there is no way y'all hate me.

• 54:32Speaker 02

  Maybe they're not seeing what's really, you know what I mean?

• 54:33Speaker 01

  I'm like, America hates me. They have to, because I don't understand where any of this is coming from.

• 54:37Keke Palmer?

  And would the producers try to calm you guys down, or like, not let you get? Because, I mean, they're giving this information and they're pulling it away. But I'm sure you're having questions, like, are you guys allowed to ask? Or do they try?

• 54:48Speaker 01

  We can't know anything. And it, I mean, it does help in a way, so that social media doesn't get stuck in your head all day. Um, but it also is a thing of like, damn, what is happening? But they don't watch the show while.

• 55:00Keke Palmer?

  Did you feel like people would start changing? Like, even after the Maybelline challenge, or when people are finding out people's favorites? Because honestly, I'll say this, this was also one of the reasons why people were giving this certain feedback to Ciara, was they felt she was so influencer-ready. They felt like, girl, you ready to just do the dang, be the star type of situation? Did you guys feel at any moment on the show, maybe from her, or from anybody, that there was too much awareness around what this can lead to? Or just trying to win?

• 55:28Speaker 01

  No, and that's, that's what's so insane, like, we, no one ever sat here and talked about, oh, my God, the finale's coming up, or this, that. Like, we all were in the moment. We always said, like, this feels like a big family vacation. Like, you know, when you go on your friend's vacation, and this person ends up like that person, whatever? It just all felt so cool, that you forget that this is actually a TV show that's happening right now. Like, even seeing certain clips that's happening, we're like, wow. I didn't even realize, like, this would be something that's being put in there. So no one was ever thinking of, like, we're on a show, we're on a show. It genuinely was like, we're having fun together. So, nobody, I don't feel like, at least to me, I don't feel like anybody was moving a type of way to have a certain image.

• 56:04Speaker 02

  Literally. And with us not knowing the dates, is that we didn't even know how far, or how close the end date was. So when it came down to it, I'm like, dang, I didn't think I was gonna make it this far. Like, I honestly was not thinking about the end goal at all.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:13Keke Palmer?

  Was there any, um, situation that you felt like, okay, America's low-key hatin'? Because obviously, you have to depend on America, their voting, this is the one. But was there any elimination or anything that happened, where you were like, now, can we trust y'all, America?

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely the rank thing, that did it for me. Because some people, I'm like, what? And then other people, I'm like, okay, that makes sense. I'll give you that.

• 56:35Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  So I was like, America, y'all confusing me.

• 56:38Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 56:39Speaker 02

  Same.

• 56:39Keke Palmer?

  Same, same.

• 56:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, cuz I couldn't understand why Shelly was down there, but when I got out, I'm like, oh, so Shelly's a mean girl? Like, I was so thrown off by that cuz like she said, we were the go-to people. Hence why they acted the way they did when I got released from Casa. I'm like, if I was such a mean girl, why is these girl crying over me? Like, all of them. I'm the glue, I'm the, the mother, I'm all these things, but I'm a mean girl? Like, come on now. That's when you should check yourself. Like, you know what, what they showing us is not... Exactly. Thank you. We were not mean girls, so please, let's clear that narrative up right now.

• 57:08Keke Palmer?

  Love Island, that island is some crazy stuff.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  It is.

• 57:12Keke Palmer?

  It's really, it's so unique, that experience.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  It is.

• 57:16Keke Palmer?

  And I'm so glad that we got to meet you guys through the show, and I can't wait for everything else that we're gonna be doing with y'all. But, before I let y'all go, go.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 57:23Keke Palmer?

  We have to play a game. The game is called Truth or Tea, okay?

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 57:27Keke Palmer?

  Now, I ask a spicy question. This is how it works. I ask a spicy question. You either keep it real, or tell the truth, or you can phone an islander and let them spill it for you.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  As in, one of us who?

• 57:39Keke Palmer?

  No, literally, you can pull out your phone and you can call somebody else to answer the question for you.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 57:45Keke Palmer?

  If you want to. Now, you don't get a bunch of calls, you just get one, so pick wisely.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 57:49Keke Palmer?

  Are y'all ready?

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:50Keke Palmer?

  Okay. I'm so excited.

• 57:57Keke Palmer?

  Who was low-key flirting off-camera but acting innocent on-screen?

• 58:01Speaker 01

  Like, low-key flirting? Hmm, I don't think anybody.

• 58:06Keke Palmer?

  Everybody was keeping it real.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were keeping it real, yeah.

• 58:08Keke Palmer?

  Okay. Who was the most performative in the villa? Give names, not vibes.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  Performative, as in, like, just put on a show?

• 58:15Keke Palmer?

  Ready for TV.

• 58:16Speaker 02

  Hmm, what'd you say?

• 58:19Keke Palmer?

  Don't be shy, guys.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  No, I'm genuinely trying to think because this kinda goes with that last conversation of like, was anyone trying to act a way? And I don't think anyone was trying to act a way. No one was giving performative, I'll say that.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  All the cameras are hidden. It's not like you got a cameraman in your face, like, you know what I mean? So it's like, you got genuine reactions.

• 58:34Keke Palmer?

  Okay, who got a better edit than they deserved?

• 58:37Speaker 02

  Take it away, Shelly.

• 58:40Keke Palmer?

  Tell that you got, so let me say this before they even get into it, guys. You know, it's opinions.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:46Keke Palmer?

  No hate, no shade, no tea. Everybody have a right to say how they feel, how they think. It don't mean nothing negative. So let's, let's put this disclaimer before we even get any further. Y'all know y'all want the tea, so, you know, give context and let these girls live.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:02Keke Palmer?

  So who got a better edit than they deserved?

• 59:06Speaker 01

  I'mma phone an Islander.

• 59:08Keke Palmer?

  Go ahead, call him.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  Call Ace.

• 59:12Keke Palmer?

  Oh my gosh, Ace is gonna give it to us real.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  Please don't be in the gym or dancing online again.

• 59:17Keke Palmer?

  Not too much.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  Hello? Hey, so I get to phone an Islander for a question. Do you mind answering?

• 59:26Keke Palmer?

  Come on, boo. Hey, what's up Ace? It's your girl Kix. Um, I'm interviewing your boo right now and I'm asking them some questions and...

• 59:36Keke Palmer?

  So she phoned, you know, she phoned an Islander because she wanted to opt out, out of answering, and I'm so glad she called you because I know you're gonna give it to me real. The question is, who got a better edit than they deserved?

• 59:50Speaker 03

  Well, in that case, I feel like there was a lot that, you know, America didn't really get to see from everybody. You know, we all had our ups and downs throughout this whole entire experience, but I feel like they, they edited what, you know, they wanted to edit, which is, okay, in the end, because we all know.

• 1:00:11Keke Palmer?

  So the answer is Jeremiah.

• 1:00:16Keke Palmer?

  I'm just playing, I'm just playing.

• 1:00:20Keke Palmer?

  Okay, thank you Ace for that wonderful PR answer. You are the man.

• 1:00:27Keke Palmer?

  Nice to meet you over the phone lines.

• 1:00:30Speaker 03

  Nah, I would love to meet you in person one day. Kiki, you, you amazing for real.

• 1:00:34Keke Palmer?

  Oh my gosh, so are you. We gotta have you on the show because you know they want to hear what you got to say.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, but do they?

• 1:00:42Keke Palmer?

  Oh, keeping it a little too real, got us...

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Hilarious. All right, I'm about to go.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  All righty.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  All right, later.

• 1:00:49Keke Palmer?

  Okay, rank your top three kissers from The Villa.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Um, number one, me.

• 1:00:54Keke Palmer?

  Period, because everybody want to kiss you.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  I'll give myself number one. Who's two and three?

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  No, you said you're.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  Oh, it's like individually?

• 1:01:04Keke Palmer?

  Your top three, yeah.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  Oh, my top three? Oh, asking who I kissed?

• 1:01:07Keke Palmer?

  Yep.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Oh, Ace. Ace. Ace.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Period. Period. That's not fair.

• 1:01:17Keke Palmer?

  You could push her. You heard, that's your girl.

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  No, for real.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Um, okay, it'll be Ace. I'll give number two to Ciara. Um, and three.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  I don't, I.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  There's no other kisses that really like stood out to me when I think about it.

• 1:01:35Keke Palmer?

  You ain't like Austin.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  You know, maybe Chris. I'll give Chris.

• 1:01:36Keke Palmer?

  Oh, Chris over Austin, yeah.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, Casa.

• 1:01:40Keke Palmer?

  Top three?

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Um, Nick. Apparently our kisses is very stevie. I see that all over the internet. Um.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  He was so cute. That smile.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  Thank you. He, maybe he makes me giggly. Um. Nick, I have to say Ace too, because me and Ace have kissed a few times. I would have to say Jeremiah. Jeremiah's kisses.

• 1:02:00Keke Palmer?

  Oh, yeah. I actually did like Jeremiah on the show. I was sad when he got removed. I really was. I thought he was really good on the show and seemed like a cool dude, so I was sad when he left. If you had to couple up with someone else in the final week, who would it have been?

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  Take it away.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  No, that's messy.

• 1:02:18Keke Palmer?

  Of course.

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Who was left?

• 1:02:22Keke Palmer?

  Not even if they were left.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  Just anyone, anyone else?

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Oh, probably Chris, if I'm being honest.

• 1:02:27Keke Palmer?

  Okay.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:29Keke Palmer?

  I mean, Chris is handsome, yeah.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  A gentle giant.

• 1:02:32Keke Palmer?

  Chris too, both of y'all Chris. Yes, yeah, Chris was very cute. He was not carrying that girl. Um, okay, on a scale of one to two they fumbled hard, how much do you think your man regrets how he handled things at Casa?

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  Oh, zero.

• 1:02:47Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  Like, I don't think Ace did anything in Casa but exploring.

• 1:02:52Keke Palmer?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:53Speaker 01

  Not that much, yeah.

• 1:02:54Keke Palmer?

  Do you think Taylor regretted anything?

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  I'm not. I mean, they obviously have a genuine connection. He is with the girl that he truly likes, and I respect that, so I don't think he regrets anything. He shouldn't. Like, that's what we're there for.

• 1:03:04Keke Palmer?

  Do you regret anything?

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  No, honestly, I.

• 1:03:07Keke Palmer?

  Not exploring.

• 1:03:08Speaker 02

  I did, I did explore. I tried to talk to as many people as possible, but it's just.

• 1:03:13Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, I mean, you did. What was that boy's name?

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  Zack.

• 1:03:16Keke Palmer?

  Zack. Yeah, he was very cute.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was cute.

• 1:03:19Keke Palmer?

  He was very cute. He was confusing me, always wanted some kisses and stuff.

• 1:03:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I told you guys, like, I'm a slow burner. Which is why I'm like, I was confused on why he picked me. Because like, you know I'm a slow burner, but you asked me for a kiss on day two, like, that doesn't make sense.

• 1:03:33Keke Palmer?

  He just knows he's fine.

• 1:03:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Keke Palmer?

  It's hard when they know that.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:37Keke Palmer?

  Okay, this is the last one. During the Stand On Business Challenge, do you think Huda had a reasonable response?

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:03:45Keke Palmer?

  Continue.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:03:50Keke Palmer?

  Expand.

• 1:03:52Speaker 01

  I mean, the apology, the apology stuff, like, that's reasonable. Like, you're trying to take accountability and stuff. Just the explanation, it's like, apology, but, you know? So the explanation of things, it just didn't make sense. There, it, it would've just been, been better to just be like, you know, sorry, that's it. To try to get me to understand why, it was just like, beyond me. Because it's like, you know, it's not like, it's a legit good reason, you know, so, that's all.

• 1:04:15Keke Palmer?

  You, same thing? Yeah, nothing to add? All right. Girls, they really had to pull me away from you two. Because that is how much I've enjoyed hanging out with y'all. Y'all are absolutely lovely. Girl, I really loved hanging with y'all. And I hope that everything goes good at the reunion and...

• 1:04:33Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 1:04:34Keke Palmer?

  You know, when you guys get a chance to watch the show, despite whatever America says, I hope that you know that you really were wonderful. You really were.

• 1:04:41Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Hopefully, they see this and, and see that. Because we were actually there. Y'all only get, like she said, like, the Stand On Business.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  An hour within 24 hours.

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  In our days, so. And also, it's an experience that no one can ever, like, understand unless you're living it. Like I said, anyone could've sat down with me and told me, this is exactly how it goes. This is gonna happen, whatever, and you still won't understand until you're actually there, so.

• 1:05:01Keke Palmer?

  Yeah, but I'll be honest. You know, love shows itself in weird ways. And one thing I've learned, being in the public eye for many years, is honestly, sometimes that hate is really love. You don't want to feel it, you don't want to see the comments, you don't want it. But honestly, if they don't say it, then you ain't on their mind.

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Keke Palmer?

  So it's kind of like, thanks, boo.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 1:05:20Keke Palmer?

  A little bit.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  You know, you're absolutely right. Yes, absolutely.

• 1:05:23Keke Palmer?

  You know, thanks.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  Glad you think about me.

• 1:05:26Keke Palmer?

  Exactly. Thank you for coming on, baby. This is Keke Palmer, girl.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Thank you for having us.

• 1:05:30Keke Palmer?

  Oh, my gosh, girl, I miss everything.

• 1:05:37Keke Palmer?

  I remain a proud lover of chalets. And I'm rooting for Alandria to find someone who deserves all of her greatness, whether that's Nick or someone new. We'll see. Yes, we tune in for the romance and the drama, duh. But let's be real, one of the best parts of Love Island is the friendships. And while not all of them 100% real, when they are, they hit. Couples come and go, but your girls are forever, baby. I don't know about y'all, but I'm already counting down the days to the Villaree opens next summer. Until then, you know it's your girl.

• 1:06:08Speaker 04

  Baby, this is, this is Kiki. Baby, this is Kiki Palma, yeah.