Bonus Episode: Are We Alone in the Universe?

This week, Jake wonders what might be coming in future disclosures about UFOs, the JFK assassination, and the Diddy case. What happens if the stories we tell ourselves, the grand conspiracies, the intriguing theories, turn out to be false? What if they're true? Are these stories no longer compelling if they reach a conclusion? Can a conspiracy theory ever be truly debunked? On Tuesday we're bringing you an Icons episode on Richard Pryor, one of the greatest and most influential standup comics of all time. Jake wants to know: Which comedian from your youth made you laugh the hardest? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, [email protected] mailto:[email protected], or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 82 - Paul McCartney https://www.disgracelandpod.com/082/the-beatles-3 Episode 71 - David Bowie https://www.disgracelandpod.com/071/david-bowie Episodes 122 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/122/lou-reed-pt-1 and 123 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/123/lou-reed-pt-2 - Lou Reed Episode 140 - Velvet Underground https://www.disgracelandpod.com/140/velvet-underground To hear an extended version of the After Party, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. https://disgracelandpod.com/membership. Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/merch https://www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER https://mailchi.mp/doubleelvis/disgraceland-email-newsletter Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/disgracelandpod/ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@disgracelandpod X https://twitter.com/disgracelandpod (formerly Twitter) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is exactly right.

• 0:13Speaker 01

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• 0:47Speaker 02

  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

• 1:03Speaker 03

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• 1:37Speaker 02

  I'm glad I asked for help.

• 1:40Speaker 03

  Ask your loved one's doctor about Rexulti.

• 1:45Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch, to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The After Party.

• 2:12Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the DisgraceLand bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of DisgraceLand to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Blink 182 and Tom DeLonge, and also talking about what kind of UFO JFK and Sean "Diddy" Combs disclosure that we will actually end up getting. We're previewing Richard Pryor and Rick James, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it.

• 3:08Jake Brennan?

  Why do we care about the things we don't know, about the things we can't know, or perhaps aren't supposed to know? Whether or not aliens exist, who killed JFK, which A-list celebrities are on those Diddy tapes? Our heads have been spinning for the past few months in anticipation of knowing the truth at the heart of all of these stories, and I've certainly done my part here in ginning up that anticipation for all of us. I hear from you guys, and most of you are like me, most of you want the truth, which is another way of saying that you don't believe that the official stories surrounding these topics is the whole truth. But what if it is? What if we are alone in the universe? What if Oswald

• 3:51Jake Brennan?

  did do JFK by himself? And what if Diddy is innocent? On this, I hear from you guys as well. There's a small minority of you who write in weekly to voice your skepticism about any or all of these topics, and I engage with you, but my heart isn't really in it. And this morning, I asked myself, why? Is it because I'm actually a crackpot conspiracy theorist? No, I am far from it. The earth is round. Those dudes landed on the moon back in 1969. 9/11 was not an inside job. Paul McCartney didn't die, and Elvis, I'm sorry to report, is not alive.

• 4:29Jake Brennan?

  But when it comes to the question of whether or not we are alone in this universe, when it comes to the question of the JFK assassination and if we were sold a bad bill of goods, when it comes to Diddy and the sex tapes, there is just too much available evidence. And I can't dismiss the so-called conspiracies around these stories in particular. It's the evidence. But if I'm being honest, it's also because I, like you guys, love a good story. These big, in some cases, humanity-altering topics and the open-ended questions that surround them, the endless conjecture, the connecting of the dots, the

• 5:12Jake Brennan?

  spookiness, the eeriness, the massive pop culture and historical bold-faced names who serve as characters in these stories, all of it makes for incredible storytelling. But what happens when we get the truth about these stories, when there are no more questions? This week's episode subject, Tom DeLonge of Blink 182, said about the drones flying over New Jersey and elsewhere during the last part of 2024, just a couple of months ago, drones that many, myself included, wanted to believe were not just drones and were some sort of UAP or unexplained aerial phenomena. Tom was quoted saying on his Instagram this past December to his one and a half million followers, quote, "The drones that

• 5:55Jake Brennan?

  are being discussed can hover for six hours and then disappear once they are spotted. This is why it's been hard to get facts from any US agency," unquote. DeLonge goes on to say that "some of them can even move into the ocean and then back up to the air," which is called transmedium travel, a very hard thing to do. And then Tom posts this document that is from the United States Air Force, and Tom is commenting on what this document says. Again, this is on his Instagram, you can check that out. Tom goes on to say, "If you look at this document, it seems like a repeat of exactly what happened in the 60s. There is a good chance that these things could potentially be mimicking other aircraft." And this even happened more recently in situations at Skinwalker Ranch years ago,

• 6:40Jake Brennan?

  when it was being studied, the US government under BaaS and AATIP. And again, also decades ago in the 60s, Tom continues, "It's all something to consider," unquote.

• 6:52Jake Brennan?

  And then he adds finally here a quote, "And although we don't have all the facts yet, we do know that UFOs play with mimicry, and that has been known for quite some time. Why? To get us to notice them without a major freak out? Who knows? But, well, we are noticing nonetheless." And again, Tom is saying this all in reference to the drones over New Jersey and elsewhere on the East Coast, largely on the East Coast. I know there are elsewhere in America. Now, Tom doesn't go all the way and say that the drones are UAPs, but it's implied. And Tom was, of course, like the rest of us, searching for answers because the White House at the time claimed that the drones did not pose a national security

• 7:35Jake Brennan?

  risk and leaned into the assertion that these drones were operated by drone hobbyists, which stretched credibility because, as many saw with their own eyes, myself included, these drones were massive beyond anything a hobbyist could operate. Furthermore, commercial drone use is not allowed at night. Okay. Then, the White House spokesperson came out this week, okay, new White House, new spokesperson, comes out this week and says, you know, with a little more detail, that yes, the drones were not a national security risk. They were FAA-approved aerial vehicles deployed by the previous White House administration to conduct research. So in effect, this White House is confirming what the last White House

• 8:19Jake Brennan?

  said about the drones, taking it a step further and saying that they were FAA-approved aerial vehicles that were in fact deployed by the previous White House administration to conduct research. Now, what neither White House has given us answers on is what the hell types of drones were these? And what were they supposedly researching? And whatever, I mean, you know, government secrecy, you know, military operations, I guess they don't have to be transparent, but people were freaked the fuck out. That's not the point. The point is, what a bummer. That's it.

• 8:55Jake Brennan?

  These things aren't even Chinese or Iranian drones sent here to assassinate the president or to Manchurian candidate, one of us with their high-powered gamma rays or whatever. Research, how fucking boring is that? So this story now sucks, but it doesn't change my opinion that we are not alone in this universe. It doesn't change my take on Tom DeLonge from Blink 182's disclosure efforts, but it did get me thinking about some of these other theories in a new light. It was announced last week that the JFK files are to be released in the coming days, perhaps in time for the next after-party, guys. So what the hell is in those files? Now, we can go on and on imagining and trying to figure this out, but what if nothing is in the files?

• 9:40Jake Brennan?

  What if the files, the JFK files, indisputably confirm the lone gunman theory? What if there's no CIA involvement? What if there's no mafia involvement? No Woody Harrelson's dad? No George Bush Senior? No nothing? Well, that will suck too. And what the hell kind of story does that leave us with? And what if the opposite is true? What if our wildest JFK conspiracy theories or theory is proven in just seven or so days? Well, that's gonna suck too, because we're no longer gonna have this amazing endless theory and all the wild storytelling attached to it to occupy our brains with. Either way, we're headed toward the end of an era here with the JFK story, and I don't know how I feel about it.

• 10:22Jake Brennan?

  I guess what I'm saying is, right now, I kinda like not knowing. If what's revealed in the JFK files is underwhelming, most of us are going to be supremely bummed out, but we shall see. Now, leaving JFK behind, this brings me to the last of the big three conspiracy theories floating around out there, floating around in my brain right now, and that's the Diddy tapes. First of all, it's my belief, especially after watching the first episode of this new Diddy doc that just dropped on Peacock, on HBO as well, you can watch on HBO. Diddy is a monster, okay? This documentary, just episode one, I haven't seen the episode two yet, which is available. I'm gonna watch it tonight. I meant to watch it in time for this after-party to talk to you guys about it, but last night

• 11:07Jake Brennan?

  was fucked for a lot of reasons. Anyhow.

• 11:10Jake Brennan?

  This is kind of the nail in the coffin for me with Sean Combs. And you know, as far as his guilt is concerned, now to the level of his guilt, I don't know. But like I said, dude is a monster. He denies everything in this new series, all the allegations. He denies it, of course. However, this is why it's the nail in the coffin for me. The people who go on record in this documentary are real people. They're real people with real careers. They're real people who are involved in the music industry. They're not just, uh, they're not, you can't, you can't just say they're looking for a quick buck. I mean, I'm sure you can with some, I haven't, obviously I haven't seen, I said, I haven't seen episode two, I haven't seen the whole series.

• 11:50Jake Brennan?

  But that said, from what I have seen, this is not TikTok conjecture at all. These people are credible. Okay. And it is, and the details, I know storytelling, okay? The allegations are incredibly explicit. They are incredibly detailed. And you can be your own judge. But like I said, this is the final nail in the coffin for me, based on Diddy's guilt, or just based on the notion of whether or not this dude is a monster. Okay. After watching this one episode here, on top of everything else I've read about this guy, it is now, for me, it's indisputable. This dude is capable of anything. Okay. But again, we shall see.

• 12:34Jake Brennan?

  Innocent until proven guilty and all that, right? And, and you know, to be fair, this still doesn't prove the wildest of conspiracies here, that Sean Combs was acting like a modern day Caligula and has those tapes filled with footage of his A-list celebrity friends caught up in some weird satanic sexual ritual type stuff. That's a stretch. But like I said, we shall see. I guess, I guess the point is, it was a weird week for storytelling. And the next few weeks, I believe are going to be even weirder. So make sure you're listening to the after party because we're going to get into all of it. Also next week, we are continuing with our icon series, bringing it to an end with one of our last, but not the last, non-music related topics in the Disgrace Land feed. This one is on Richard Pryor. And when you're listening

• 13:19Jake Brennan?

  To it, I want you guys to be thinking about which comedian from your youth now. Prior predates my childhood, but he's a direct influence on Eddie Murphy, who stand up when I was a kid was must watch, must memorize, must show up at the bus stop, must be as profane as possible as a little 12 year old kid or whatever. That kind of influence. Okay. Now Eddie Murphy was directly influenced by Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor. Might be part of your childhood. I don't know. Maybe, maybe it's someone else. Maybe it's Adam Sandler. Maybe it's, uh, who knows? But the question that I want you to be thinking about when you're listening to this Richard Pryor episode is when you were a kid, which comedian made you laugh the hardest and why?

• 14:00Jake Brennan?

  We started showing my oldest, um, this past weekend, actually unrelated to this. We started showing my oldest son and actually I guess by extension, my youngest son too.

• 14:10Jake Brennan?

  The nineties Adam Sandler movies and he's dying. He's, he's loving it. So I know that right now, if I had, if I asked him this question 20 years from now, I'm pretty sure Adam Sandler would be his answer based on this last week alone. He's obsessed. He's quoting the films, highly inappropriate, but pretty innocent. So anyways, for you guys, next week's question of the week, thinking about this when you're listening to the Richard Pryor episode is going to be which comedian from your youth made you laugh the hardest and why? You can let me know 617-906-6638, voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on the socials. Coming up before that Richard Pryor episode, however, and coming up next in your feed here after this bonus episode

• 14:49Jake Brennan?

  is our rewind episode on Rick James. Now guys, if you haven't heard this episode before, if you're like, who the fuck is Rick James? Do not sleep on this episode. Do not skip this episode. You will miss out. I assure you. Same goes for those of you OG discos who heard this episode when it was originally released. If that's you, I invite you to listen to this episode again, and it's for a couple of reasons. The main one is that this story is insane. What Rick James did in his career, the crimes, the transgressions, they are mind blowing. People are aware of the kidnapping and the torture charges from later in his career, but this dude's whole life was one long crime saga. It's hard for me to think of another musician who better. embodies the rock and roll of criminally minded lifestyle than Rick James.

• 15:34Jake Brennan?

  Honestly, I could do 10 episodes on this dude. The other reason I want you to listen to this episode is because Rick James, Rick James is one of those weird artists where if I say anything remotely critical about him, people freak the fuck out. He's beloved, which is bizarre, given what a psychopath he was and how much horror he brought upon people. But he did make incredible, fantastic, mold breaking music. And that's the whole story for some, but it's not for us. Okay. Rick got up to some bullshit, wild, dramatic, true crime bullshit. And when I talk about it online later this week, you're going to see some people freak out. So listen to this episode so you can hear what all the insanity is about and be part of the conversation.

• 16:16Jake Brennan?

  Disgraceland Pod on the socials, on Instagram, on Facebook, on Tik Tok, on X. All right. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back shortly with your voicemails, texts and DMs from our question of the week.

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• 17:09Speaker 02

  She'd throw things, wander and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard, but then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

• 17:25Speaker 03

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• 17:59Speaker 02

  I'm glad I asked for help.

• 18:01Speaker 03

  Ask your loved ones doctor about

• 18:14Jake Brennan?

  You guys know how to get in touch with me 617-906-6638 to leave a voicemail to send me a text. Look, it seems like you guys, this happens from week to week. Sometimes, you know, you guys just want to keep digging into an episode. You don't want to stop talking about the Beastie Boys and I'm just going to roll with it. So, uh, let's hear from Emily in the 906.

• 18:34Speaker 06

  Hey Jake, it is Emily of the 906 and I say of the, as I grew up in rural Upper Peninsula of Michigan. And my music education was my dad's records and the videos I could catch on MTV. When I could sneak and turn it on when my mom was at work. Um, I appreciated the Beastie Boys episode so much. Because Beastie Boys hold that place in my heart entirely because I was drawn in by their videos. Um, they just, that's my childhood. It's so strange and it's so weird, but it's what you have for the visuals. I guess that ties you to the artist.

• 19:18Speaker 06

  But is that an episode right there looking at some really influential and breakthrough videos? And the stories behind them because you know, there's some debauchery in some of those videos. Um, and also I always want to ask, why is there no Dave Grohl Foo Fighters episode? Question mark. Anyways, um, thank you for the content you bring to us all. I appreciate it so very much. And I also appreciate your voice because I fall asleep to it every night and then listen to the full episode in the morning. All right. Thanks so much.

• 19:54Jake Brennan?

  Emily, thank you for the voicemail. I appreciate it. It sounds like you and I had a very similar upbringing. Exposed to new music through our parents' record collections and MTV. As for your question as to whether or not we could do subjects on specific videos, I suppose we could. If the story behind the video was juicy enough and I haven't come across anything yet. That has sort of prompted me to go, huh, that'd be a cool idea. I kind of like sometimes using a singular event. To tell, not the full story, but to just tell a whole story that takes place around one event. I just, the Martin Scorsese episode that I just wrote, it's coming out in a couple

• 20:36Jake Brennan?

  of weeks, is basically that. It would be fun, though, to tackle a video. So if anyone has any ideas about the crazy stories about the production of some of the videos from our past, the 80s and 90s, et cetera, let me know. As to your question about the Foo Fighters, Emily, you know, I just don't know if there's enough there. You know, Dave Grohl cheating on his wife, certainly shitty behavior. Is it that interesting, though? Is it gonna make up an episode? As for the Taylor Hawkins piece of it, I don't know that we have all that information yet, like, actual information. There's a lot of conjecture out there, but I just don't know that there's enough there yet. But, you know, Foo Fighters are still a young band. We shall see what happens. And thank you, Emily, for the kind words

• 21:20Jake Brennan?

  about my voice. Sleep tight tonight. Wish I got better sleep last night. I did not. Okay, let's hear from Kurt in the 415.

• 21:29Speaker 07

  Hi, this is Kurt Scholler. I grew up in New York in the 70s and 80s, listened to your B.T. Boys podcast. Super amazing. You have to influence me in my life. And I'd love to hear something about Lou Reed, who I've seen a bunch of David Bowie, I've heard a lot of David Bowie and other, you know, Etoph and that kind of stuff. But Lou seems to be kind of lost in the, in the crowd, too. Anyway, love your podcast and hope to hear you soon. Thanks. Bye.

• 21:57Jake Brennan?

  Kurt, appreciate the voicemail. Dude, I got you covered, okay? We have a fantastic episode, if I do say so myself, on David Bowie. It's in the archive. That's available for you right now. Just go to wherever you're listening to DisgraceLand and search Bowie. And if you have any trouble getting in touch, and we'll, we'll, we'll surface that episode. Actually, Matt here, our steadfast producer, will make sure that the episode information for the David Bowie and Lou Reed episodes are in the show notes of this bonus episode. So that should make it easy for you, Kurt. We actually did, so we did a David Bowie episode, and then Bowie shows up pretty significantly in both the Iggy Pop episode that we did, which is also available, and the Led Zeppelin episode, which is also available.

• 22:41Jake Brennan?

  Lou Reed, I did two, two of my favorite episodes on Lou Reed.

• 22:47Jake Brennan?

  That I wrote when I was, you're gonna hear, I was pretty obsessed with Raymond Chandler at the time when I wrote those episodes. They're kind of the Lou Reed origin story. And we did a double episode on the Velvet Underground as well, I believe. So that's, that's all available for you. Okay. Go check that out, Kurt. 803 texts in, hey, what a fantastic episode. I don't dislike Blink 182, but I don't know that I could name more than the enema of the State album. That story, your story had me hooked from start to finish. I nodded along, was occasionally skeptical, but always a believer of the storytelling. Well done, Jake. Rockerola. That's from the 803. Thanks. 803. Happy to be making believers of you guys. 716 texts in. This was almost the story of the week. Almost the story of

• 23:28Jake Brennan?

  the week. It's, it's a good one. But 716 writes here. So here's a story. Not sure about rock and roll history, but it's one you play a role in for me. I was excited to listen to Dead and Gone. For those of you who don't know, I did a podcast in partnership with my buddy Payne Lindsay a couple of years ago about missing and dead grateful Dead fans. It's called Dead and Gone. So that's what the 716 is referring to. I was excited to listen to Dead and Gone. I always knew that I saw one of Jerry Garcia's last shows, but shortly after he died, I was in a car accident that resulted in me getting retrograde amnesia. The second time I listened to your story about the 7295 show at Deer Creek, it hit me and I remembered that I was there. Not a gatecrasher because I had

• 24:11Jake Brennan?

  a ticket. I remember a lot of shows, but thanks for bringing back that one for me. Another little tie into a last show, 10/20/74 at the Winterland was the last show before their hiatus and the day I was born as well. Don't remember that one either. 716. Great text. I love your sense of humor about your retrograde amnesia. What a wild thing to have. And I'm happy that we were able to remind you of some of your memories. Pretty cool. 302 texts in, hey, have you seen Beyond Saturday Night on Peacock? If I remember correctly, you're a big Will Ferrell fan. There's an entire episode devoted to the cowbell bit. I recommend it. I've watched it twice. You could watch it 100 more times at least. I have not seen this and Zeth and I, Zeth was, he texted me about this yesterday.

• 24:55Jake Brennan?

  Is this the Questlove-produced show about Saturday Night Live show about the SNL music?

• 25:03Jake Brennan?

  I think that's what you're referring to. And if so, I'm gonna watch it. I heard it's fantastic and I'm pumped to watch it. And yes, I am a Will Ferrell fan. Who's not? So psyched to see this. One of his most iconic skits brought to life here with a little more detail, hopefully. @LumberAff on Instagram writes, "This universe is incomprehensibly large. To think we are the only life out there is insanely naive and very boring." Hey, I totally, completely agree to that. I say exactly. You're absolutely right. Jeffrey Turman on Facebook writes, "Hey Jake, Jeff from the 310/909. Long story, not relevant. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Whoever the Fuck is my new favorite line from any podcast at any point ever. Wanted you to know. Keep killing it. Rock-a-rola. Jeff."

• 25:48Jake Brennan?

  Jeff is of course referring to that little quip I had in the Beatles episode, one of the two Beatles episodes that we rewound for you last week. Crosby, Stills & Whoever the Fuck. Yeah, that just flowed out. Glad you dug it. Got a couple of comments on that. Appreciate it. All right, guys. Question of the week for next week. You know the drill. It's gonna be about which comedian from your childhood made you laugh the hardest. I wanna know. Hit me up. Who was feeding you those dirty jokes you were spilling at the bus stop? 617-906-6638. Voicemail, text, at @disgracelandpod on the socials. [email protected]. Email. I'll be back in a flash with your emails and your reviews. And from you guys, the story of the week.

• 26:39Speaker 01

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• 27:13Speaker 02

  She'd throw things, wander, and started hoarding. Mom's Alzheimer's was already so hard. But then we found out she had agitation that may happen with dementia due to Alzheimer's disease. And that was a different kind of difficult. So we asked her doctor for more help.

• 27:28Speaker 03

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• 28:03Speaker 02

  I'm glad I asked for help.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Ask your loved one's doctor about Rexulti.

• 28:16Jake Brennan?

  Okay, we're back. And you know what we're doing here with this story of the week. Every week, it's up to you guys to hit me up with your best story from your past, from the past of one of your friends or your family members, from something, maybe it doesn't even have to be personal, it can be something that you read in a book, something that somebody told you, just some wild and crazy story from rock and roll history. The ones where you're involved, I gotta say, they're the best ones. I feel the passion coming through. And we do this all, of course, in our effort to preserve the true spirit of rock and roll. Because, as we've said, these stories there, they will one day fade away, and it is our mission here in Disgrace Land to make sure that that does not happen for a very, very, very long time. So this week's story of the week comes from Vicky Westgate.

• 29:00Jake Brennan?

  Vicky writes in, "Hey Jake, I just couldn't resist this. I had to reach out. I'm a goldsmith up in Canada who listens faithfully to your podcast while creating beautiful pieces of jewelry for customers. And I discovered you about a year ago or so, back to why I felt compelled to write. Your story on the Keith Richards drug bust was big news when it happened. For Stones fans... Here in Toronto, Stones fans like me. Maggie Trudeau's antics were just a sideline show, okay? Vicky's email goes on to say, "Your pod on the drug bust brought back many great memories as I can proudly say that my boyfriend and I sat in the courthouse and watched the Keith Richards trial.

• 29:42Jake Brennan?

  Your podcast took me back to my wild and woolly days where music was everything in the Toronto scene was incredible. Anyhow, we skipped school and we watched the trial with a few other smart ass Rolling Stones fans. And we were smart ass as we figured out we could sit in the court gallery and watch Keith on trial for free. We were so close that I can vouch that yes, he wore a tan suit, very 70's style and white socks. And I remember one fan my age wore a Starfucker t-shirt he had just made that morning and was so proud of it. We were a rowdy bunch and we had to be reprimanded several times by the judge. When he was gonna kick us out, we took notice and we shut up. Thank you for making me relive this moment from my Rolling Stones fangirl life.

• 30:24Jake Brennan?

  As a side note, my boyfriend got to go to the concert for the blind. I didn't. I have no idea how he wrangled the ticket because you had to be a blind person to get in. He said it was a fantastic concert. Of course, all the best and keep making great content. Love listening. Vicky from the 613 in Ontario, Canada. Vicky! Thank you so much for the story of the week. This is amazing, incredible. Look how savvy you guys were, understanding that you could get into the trial for free and get up and close to a Rolling Stone, just like that. Amazing, I love it. Great story, thank you for sending it, we appreciate it, Vicky. Guys, hit me up with your story of the week, okay? I want to know what it is and you're gonna get a chance, just like the reviewers, okay? New policy, just like the reviewers, y'all who write in with your story of the week,

• 31:07Jake Brennan?

  if I read it here, you are going to get some free merch, whatever we got lying around the old disgraced studio here, which finally I can report, construction will be complete.

• 31:19Jake Brennan?

  Within four to six weeks. Anyhow, Vicky, get in touch and hit me up with your address and shirt size and I will make sure that we get some merch out to you. Reviewer, same thing, you know, the drill, you leave a review on Apple Podcasts, you leave a review on Spotify. I read a couple of them here each week and because the reviews, not only do I like, like hearing from you guys on a different platform here, but the reviews help with discovery and that's the point, okay? Because that helps the show grow. So you do a little favor for me and I pick out a couple of you per week, read your reviews and then you get in touch with me and I will hook you up with a couple of free merch items. Again, whatever we got, whatever we got lying around the old studio here, okay?

• 32:02Jake Brennan?

  Not making any promises for t-shirts or pins or stickers or, or, or books or whatever. It's, it's whatever we got lying around and we always have something cool lying around. So get in touch if you hear your review here, read in the after party. This one comes from Ryan Red 451 on Apple Podcasts who says, "Great, listen, five stars. This show is well-written with great delivery of the story. Everyone that asks for something new to listen to, Disgrace Land is my first option for them to try. Keep up the great work, y'all, Ryan Redd, you got it. Get in touch, Ryan, and we will hook you up over on the old Spotify machine." Christopher Joseph writes, "In response to the Blink 182 episode, great episode. Blink's lore is really interesting and Tom is such an inspiring person who always followed his heart."

• 32:45Jake Brennan?

  Christopher, I read your review because I haven't really talked about this at all in this after-party and really it's the theme of, of the, of the Blink 182 episode. It's not just that, you know, Tom did this monumental thing and he's an unlikely hero and all that. It's just, it's the fact that, you know, the theme of that episode is that Tom is so purpose-driven. His purpose has always been clearly defined and he's been on that path since the beginning, even when it was really unpopular and, and difficult for him to be on that path. And I don't know, I just, I value that. I think it's really cool and I like that you, that you are. Called it out here, Christopher. So get in touch, hit me up, email me, hit me up on the socials and we will hook you up. All right. All access members, you got a Towns Van Zandt

• 33:30Jake Brennan?

  episode last week as our all access exclusive piece of content that we released for you. And I hope you dug it. And when we get into the all access portion of this episode, I'm going to talk a little bit about a Towns Van Zandt related recommendation that I think flew under the pop culture radar. I think it's fantastic and I can't wait to hit you to it. Also going to talk to all access members about my experience, if you know what I'm saying. We're going to get into that. This episode is however, nearing its end for non all access members. You know, you want to stick around, you want to hear some more stories, want to hear a little bit more additional content. It's really easy to become an all access member. It's just five bucks. And not only do you get this additional part of the bonus episode

• 34:15Jake Brennan?

  here, you also get an exclusive full episode per month and everything is ad free. It's just five bucks, five bucks a month. That's like, I mean, I think I said before, it was like the cost of a, of an IPA, cost of an expensive cup of coffee. You know, what else do we blow $5 on? Parking on Newbury Street for an hour. What else? Five bucks. If you got it, come on, become an all access member. Join us. And by join us, I mean, you can be in the Patreon chat with us, part of the disco community, get more access to your fellow Disgrace Slam listeners. It's a good time. It's easy. It's reasonably priced and you can sign up at disgracempod.com/membership.

• 35:16Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back, guys. Cool bunch of archive episodes mentioned in this bonus episode as always. Okay, we mentioned Paul McCartney. We got a Paul is Dead episode. You're going to want to check that out. We mentioned the JFK conspiracy. Of course, we get into that deeply in the Frank Sinatra and John Denver episodes in two completely different ways. David Bowie was brought up. I talked about that episode. Lou Reed was brought up as well. Two episodes on Lou Reed. I think there's two on Velvet Underground. Maybe there's one? How weird is that? I don't even know if we did a two-parter on that. Matt's gonna have all the episode information in the show notes here to help you better find these archive episodes. Huge archive. New listeners, we have a huge, huge archive. Any type of musician you could possibly think of, we've, we've most likely got an episode on them in our

• 36:01Jake Brennan?

  200-plus episodes, which is continuing to grow every single week. So if you want to hear an episode on somebody that you think we may or may not have covered, just check out the archive, go to the website, check out your podcast feed, and if you're still stumped and you're still looking for something, get in touch and I'll hook you up. All right? Okay, let's recap, shall we? Number one, I want your story. Call me, text me, hit me on the socials. Your favorite story of rock and roll. Animalism is wild a story you can think of about a rock star that you're aware of, that you may have had a personal encounter with, something that you may have heard from somebody else, something that I may have even told you about, okay? Whatever it is, I want to know. We want to preserve the true spirit of rock and roll here in disgraceland. Hit me up. Your story might be the story of the week. Number two, right now in your feed, our episode on Blink 182. Number three,

• 36:45Jake Brennan?

  coming tomorrow, rewinding back to our Rick James episode. Number four, merch winners, story of the week contributors, get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do, and well, that's a disgrace. All right, April 27, 2020, was the day the government compelled by Blink 182's Tom DeLonge finally disclosed some information regarding the likely existence of life from beyond this planet, or this dimension, perhaps. So this is me reading to you the Billboard charts from that day. Number one, Blinding Lights, The Weekend, last week, two. Peak Position, one. Weeks

• 37:26Jake Brennan?

  on chart, 20. Number two, Two C Slide, Drake, last week, one. Peak Position, one. Weeks on chart, two. Number three, The Box, Roddy Ricch, last week, three. Peak Position, one. Weeks on chart, 19. Number four, Don't Start Now, Dua Lipa, last week, four. Peak Position, two. Weeks on chart, 24. Number five, Saiso, Doja, featuring Nicki Minaj.

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• 38:45Jake Brennan?

  Hey guys, time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. Back by popular demand, this five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the beach club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of DisgraceLand, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners Wisecrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage.

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  Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/trucrime to secure your spot.

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