False Prophets and Flying Objects - The Whistleblower Wave

In this wide-ranging episode of Weaponized, Jeremy and George share insights into ongoing preparations for another UFO hearing scheduled for early September. Members of Congress and senior staffers have met with or spoken to several potential witnesses, including some with first-hand experiences of advanced technology observed at U. S. military bases or defense contractor sites. However, many of these eyewitnesses remain reluctant to step forward, fearing retaliation. Influential figures in Washington are pushing for legislative actions to reassure potential whistleblowers, while others, including well-funded defense contractors and intelligence agencies, are equally determined to block transparency efforts. Who holds the upper hand? In addition, FOIA warrior Dustin Slaughter returns to Weaponized with another stunning UFO case extracted from a reluctant Department of Defense (DoD). GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• Follow Dustin Slaughter’s reporting on X at https://x.com/DustinSlaughter and his publication at https://UAPregister.substack.com Follow Matt Laslo's reporting on X at https://x.com/MattLaslo and his publication at https://askapol.com ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:00Jeremy Corbell?

  So Matt got Schumer on this like subway thing, and Schumer says, "Look, the people have a right to know. That's why we're doing this."

• 1:06Speaker 01

  You reintroduced your UAPDA.

• 1:08George Knapp?

  Yes, I did.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  Why? What's the importance of that?

• 1:11George Knapp?

  Got to let people know the truth, whatever it is. Two suggests it might not be just a rock. It might be an alien craft. That's provocative, but within the range of, "Hey, we can speculate what it is. We don't know yet." Two, take it to the next step. It could be hostile. They could be coming here to kill us and invade Earth. Where the hell does that come from?

• 1:32Jeremy Corbell?

  You fought this other case, and you found, and got them to release UAP information from a military base about a cylindrical UAP. I read your articles, so tell us all about it.

• 1:48George Knapp?

  This is Weaponized. My name is George Knapp, coming to you from the Mojave Desert, Las Vegas, to be specific. Joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell. How you doing, Jeremy?

• 1:58Jeremy Corbell?

  I'm doing good, man. You're in the Mojave Desert still. Is it hot out there?

• 2:01George Knapp?

  A little bit, yeah, just a little bit. You remember I was having a conversation like a month ago, how I was gonna take some time off away from the show and other things? Um, let me tell you how that worked out. My friend Jeremy would not leave me alone the whole month. And um, I was ready to blame you for it, but I realized you're acting as an agent for the guy who really is cracking the whip, making us work when we were trying to do other things. And that's Michael, our friend behind the scenes, Michael. Am I correct in making that assumption?

• 2:32Jeremy Corbell?

  Oh yeah, he's our intergalactic handler. He's the um, creative producer and just producer of Weaponized. We couldn't do this without him. And he's saying, hey, man, you gotta talk about this. It's like he's excited about everything UFO. He gets me excited.

• 2:44George Knapp?

  Yeah, he's got UFO disease pretty bad. And it's a good time for it, too, because there's a lot of stuff going on. I mean, you know, I've had a little bit of time on my hands over the past four weeks. Trying to keep up with all this stuff, it's impossible.

• 2:56Jeremy Corbell?

  Oh, yeah, yeah. So I mean, this is kind of for me, this is the calm before the storm, because I know in September, all indications are that we're gonna have a great hearing with people with close proximity to craft what we call firsthand whistleblowers of a certain category. Um, we'll see. I'm not in control of exactly who's chosen, but absolutely kind of bringing in nominations to be vetted and that sort of thing. So that'll happen in September. So this month, I think a lot of people, Congress, but also just people in government, are taking some time to look into the UFO thing. I heard a little bit about that. J D Vance said in some podcast he was obsessed with the UFO issue and he's gonna study it this August. That's great, man. There's a lot to study. So I think we're gonna see the results of that in September.

• 3:41George Knapp?

  Yeah, I saw that. And I, you know, I'm encouraged by it. That's great. Uh, you know, if only the vice president was in a position to, you know, have some power and force people to release some information. Or maybe if he only he knew the top guy in the White House, the president, could ask him to get some of this released. But whatever the reason, I'm glad he's interested. I suspect uh, Donald Trump Jr. might have something to do with that. He was the guy who urged his dad to pick J D Vance to be vice president. And we know that Junior is very interested in the topic, so maybe he gets the credit for getting Vance to jump in. But I think that's a good sign. That's a good, that's a good deal.

• 4:21Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, that was a very positive outlook, man. I like that you're encouraged by that. Look, I don't know, everybody's screaming for transparency and all this stuff, and a lot of it's politically motivated, and I understand that. But anything that kind of brings us to the forefront, I've seen this meme around like aliens before Epstein, and I was like, what the hell does that mean? And I'm looking at it, and there's, there's serious speculation that our president, being a kind of wily individual, you know, he might, um, you know, push forward the information about UAP as some people say to distract from the Epstein stuff. And, and other people are just saying it's like a cool legacy. And I'm like, are you, are you serious? Do you really think that might happen? I don't know a lot about politics, but there's some buzz right now

• 5:05Jeremy Corbell?

  that, um, you know, we could learn more about the UAP thing just because of the political environment.

• 5:11George Knapp?

  Well, I, I don't want to get too partisan either, um, but you can't help it with this, this point. I've seen it all over the place. Um, I, I think it's fair to say that Donald Trump has a history of trying to change the subject, of succeeding in changing the subject. Whenever he doesn't like a particular dominant, uh, conversation, he engages in what you'd call counter-programming to take attention away from what he doesn't want people talking about. And I, I think he's tried to get everyone talking about something other than Epstein for quite a while now. Uh, it hasn't exactly worked. Um, I would not be surprised, though, if he goes at it. I, I saw one of the late night TV hosts of, was talking about this, making that predic- prediction exactly.

• 5:55George Knapp?

  Any day now, we're going to hear about aliens because it would distract from Epstein. I, I think it might distract from Epstein for a day or two, but I'm not sure, uh, how, how well that would work. I know that, uh, you know, Trump has mentioned UFOs and aliens a couple of times when he's been asked. He didn't voluntarily talk about it, but when asked, he'll, he'll give a, a sort of a non-committal statement. Yeah, I've been briefed. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't really believe it, is what he has said, even though he's heard from, I think, some pretty good witnesses and pretty good, uh, intel people who briefed him. I, I know that, um, you know, There are people in his administration who I was in touch with in between the election and the inauguration who very much were interested in the topic, who were interested

• 6:39George Knapp?

  in sharing information for the public. I suspect, though, that some of those guys have now decided if there is hidden technology and there are secrets stashed somewhere, we'd like to get a run at it before we spill all those beans. We'd like to get our chance at taking that stuff apart, doing some reverse engineering, and see if, you know, the tech bros, as you and I have discussed before, if the tech industry can make more progress than the Lockheed's and aerospace companies of the world have done over the past 75 years, assuming that they really do have some good stuff. So, yeah, if Trump makes an announcement that distracts attention from Epstein, awesome, that'd be great. We'll take whatever he wants to give us.

• 7:22Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, there are a couple of comments that I've been seeing in the media that were pretty cool, so I know about this. So I know like Senator Mike Rounds, who's been this kind of unsung hero with the Disclosure Act, that he's kind of quiet. When I met with him, he was, he was real kind of subtle, but at the same time, he's very knowledgeable about this topic, I mean, to the degree you can be. So I saw this interview he did on this like, looked like a local kind of news show, and the core of what he was talking about is, look, we know there's misidentifications, we know that, you know, all throughout history, that this has been a topic that, that people haven't gotten right. He's like, but there is a core truth here, and what the Disclosure Act kind of leans in on is technologies of unknown origin.

• 8:07Jeremy Corbell?

  And he kind of brings that up, that there are craft, that they're operating ways that we don't have the capability to produce. So it was really cool to see him in the news, talking, because he rarely does it. He's had a couple recently, but he rarely does that. And he is really the force behind the UAPDA, so the Disclosure Act, which he did reintroduce to Senate. So there is kind of some hope there, that if we keep the language in and we keep pushing forward with the hearings coming up, that it will kind of create a puncture, it'll get the media involved, and we'll hear more from whistleblowers.

• 8:41George Knapp?

  Yeah, he's, you know, he's a smart guy. And behind the scenes, he's not a show horse, he's kind of a workhorse guy. He's really been doing things to move the ball down the field that don't always get in the news. And, and it's encouraging to see him step forward. Big surprise was that Senator Schumer, Democrat...

• 9:00George Knapp?

  reintroduces this legislation that he had championed before. And I have to tell you, I've always thought his interest was comparable to Donald Trump's, you know, about that deep. They would say things to get a reaction, to get a distraction, but they weren't all that committed to getting to the bottom of the mystery and what it means. Schumer reintroducing this sort of changed my opinion on that. You know, I think it's a it's a bold step. I'm not an expert on all the language and what this act does. Maybe you know more about it than I do.

• 9:35Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, I mean, a little bit, maybe, I don't know. I've read through it a number of times. The main thing is that they're pushing a new language and they're trying to get this in the forefront where they have to force people to relinquish, at least that they do have what they consider technology of unknown origin. I mean, they say NHI, non-human intelligence, but I like the term technology of unknown origin because that's a little bit broader. We don't really know. It was Ask a Poll, if you go on Twitter, and he found that little moment with Schumer. So Matt got Schumer on this like subway thing. And Schumer says, look, the people have a right to know. That's why we're doing this. You know, he obviously knows that there's something going on and he wants people to know or that's what it appears like.

• 10:19Jeremy Corbell?

  So it was cool to hear even Schumer talk about that now because if we got these hearings coming in September, it's really good that all these people are pushing through this legislation, which hopefully will kind of bring more transparency to the issue, right?

• 10:32George Knapp?

  I think it's great. I'll mention one other name, a guy, a member of Congress, Representative Burleson. You've you have you know him. And he's, you know, I think he was fairly non-committal on the UFO issue at the beginning. But man, he's jumped in with both feet into the deep end of the pool. He's made some statements. He's caught a lot of criticism criticism from UFO world about the people he's hanging around with and the issues that he's investigating, which is kind of stupid. I mean, you know, he goes down to Mexico and to see the mummies. And I think he was in the company of Stephen Greer and a lot of people in UFO world don't like Greer, but.

• 11:11George Knapp?

  It's Burleson trying to find his way in a very complicated topic. He doesn't know he's not supposed to be seen with Greer. He doesn't know that the UFO people are skeptical about the mummies in general. He's trying to find out. He's going to the places, talking to people. I think that's a good sign. Uh, I think it's a good indication that he's genuinely interested. He'll figure it out. He'll figure out who you can trust and who you can't, what's real and what's isn't. I mean, we've all been there. You all have to start somewhere and, and uh, you separate wheat from chaff. The learning curve is steep. It takes a long time. Uh, but he seems really committed to getting to the bottom of it and he's gonna make mistakes here and there, right?

• 11:50Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, and I really like Representative Burleson. Like, I think that he's probably having the time of his life. I'm think about it. You're this representative and you get to do and represent and do all this kind of personal looking into things, go down to Mexico, whatever he's doing. So I, I think where the rubber meets the road is as he's doing that and as he's learning and he's saying, look, we're gonna try our best. We're gonna bring people forward. So help, you know, that's the point. And he is helping. He is helping. And like, you know, let's get this going so you can hear from more people who are not just talking philosophically about UAP, but who have direct information, whether it be some sort of exotic technology of unknown origin that they saw on a base, like, I don't know, a triangle.

• 12:33Jeremy Corbell?

  You know, or something like that. That'd be so cool. Um, let's allow these people to put this on record under oath, and then let's have the investigatory powers of Congress jump in and say, look, we know for a fact this was seen, this was observed at this time. What is it? And I think that's gonna be the kind of where the rubber meets the road is, is when we get these people to talk openly and publicly. Is can their accounts be investigated and run down? And with somebody like David Grush as a government employee, former whistleblower, I don't know in history, where you take a whistleblower, put him into a government job, it's pretty awesome that they did that. And he does have a huge, um, capability to direct

• 13:15Jeremy Corbell?

  and help influence Congress to look in the right direction. You know, look, I'll tell you this, the, the ODNI, they, they also have a, a task force.

• 13:26Jeremy Corbell?

  That's new and this task force has a lot of different portfolios, but one of them is UAP. And when they're looking into this and looking for transparency on the issue, the first thing they should do is look into the hundred plus classified document that was submitted by David Grush. Like they don't need to like ask me or you or anybody like what's going on. They should look within their own internal systems of what was submitted by David Grush with the ICIG and run it down. And so I think there's a lot of positive movement. People are fixated and obsessed with this idea of transparency and I am behind that. You know, I want to know the truth about UFOs, you know.

• 14:05George Knapp?

  I should tell our audience, we have been in touch with members of Congress, with congressional staff, the people who are working to set this hearing in motion about potential witnesses, you way more than me, but you you've talked to them a lot. You've been involved with it a lot. You're trying to help them. Put together a good event, a powerful event that is meaningful in in the utmost way. It's hard. This stuff is hard. The UFO public can sit at home and read on Twitter or X and say, this is what we want. We want this witness. We want somebody who's going to tell us this, who has hands on taking apart flying saucers.

• 14:48George Knapp?

  That's what we want and we're not going to settle for anything less. It's risky for those folks. You know, the legality of it is not really clear on whether they are protected by sharing classified special access program information with members of Congress. And you and the staff members and the elected members are trying to do their best to put together a whopper of a hearing, but it's hard.

• 15:14Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, yeah, the the staff members that are working on this are highly dedicated, really intelligent folks and really open to hearing, you know, from different people. Now, some people that I've nominated and brought in, they're not fully allowed to talk about everything in an open hearing and they don't want to have to sit there and be like, closed session, closed session. So we're trying to find that sweet spot where people can tell as much as they can without kind of crossing that line of strategic advantage. Or something like that. So, look, man, we get what we get. But I think at this point, if we keep pushing to get and educate these congressional members who are, again, under Luna with this House force,

• 15:54Jeremy Corbell?

  highly dedicated. I am actually really excited to be working with this group of people just to nominate and bring people in, because it's very different than the last hearing, which is great. I do want to bring up, real quick, a pal of ours wrote something, is Admiral Tim Galadad. He wrote a letter from Soul Foundation. Do you want to talk about that? I can mention what it is.

• 16:17George Knapp?

  Go ahead.

• 16:18Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, just, he wrote a letter to the White House Science Advisor on behalf of the Soul Foundation, recommending UAP Research become a national R and D priority, research and development priority. And that's kind of like a flashback to the idea of the Manhattan Project. And you look at what it took as a nation to tackle this problem or this issue. And I think he's right, man. I think Admiral Tim is right. And I think writing to who he wrote to is great. And I hope it has some traction from Soul, saying, we got to get the brightest minds on this. We know you got hardware of unknown origin. We got to get the brightest minds on it, because you got AI right now, where the salaries that people are getting are far beyond the salaries that people were getting

• 17:03Jeremy Corbell?

  doing the Manhattan Project or anything. So we need to kind of invest in this space and come clean about it if we're going to have an advantage with these technologies.

• 17:14George Knapp?

  More than we grifters are making on Weaponized? They can't be more than that. Big money?

• 17:21Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, yeah, it's incredible, man. The AI salaries these days are, you know, in the hundreds of millions over the course of like four or five years, you know, 230 plus. So they're basically, what you're seeing is incentive to get people to work on the AI issue, of course, as a weapon, but also as how it's going to kind of integrate into society. Look, my Cybertruck just got Grok put on, which is really cool. You can have these like full conversations, existential conversations with the mind of the Mind of the Internet, you know, the world is changing. And I think that the more we can incentivize people to deal with this NHI possibility and technology, the better. So it was a really cool letter written by Admiral Tim Gallaudet.

• 18:06George Knapp?

  You know, it sort of leads into a topic that we have discussed on this program and elsewhere over the past year or two is, you know, the, does it land? A letter from Admiral Tim Gallaudet, who is a very credible guy, knows what he's talking about, has friends in high places, and he represents Saul Foundation, which is also highly credible, filled with big brain people who want to get to the bottom of the mystery. He sends it to the White House Science Advisor. What priority does it get? I mean, look around what's going on right now. You know, we've said it before, for members of Congress, there is always something more pressing than UFOs. There's always something that they've got to deal with that's on the front burner and UFOs are on the back.

• 18:51George Knapp?

  I mean, right now, look at it. There's a lot going on. I mean, the president, just a day or so ago, says he moved position nuclear submarines where they'd have a better shot at Russia. That's, that's a fairly big little issue there that we, we'd be paying attention to. The economic news is pretty bleak. You know, the tariffs are having an impact, causing a lot of turmoil with trading partners. We're seeing that the jobs, the number of jobs that are created were wildly inflated. And instead of fixing the problem, they killed the messenger, they fired the person who reported that stuff. There's a lot of things going on, Ukraine, Gaza, all kinds of stuff.

• 19:31George Knapp?

  And UFOs might be an interesting issue, but where is it on the pecking order for people at the White House? For people in Congress, it, it's tough for them to put too much energy into this issue, which is important to us and might be big in the history of humanity and the earth, but is not the most pressing issue right now.

• 19:52Jeremy Corbell?

  Well, it is highest on the pecking order than we've ever seen it. So we can't, you know, deny that, that you have this all over the media. You know, we used to have to fight to get certain stories kind of popularized in the media. Hey, this is important. But now I can't turn left or right without seeing something in any podcast or mainstream media that, that doesn't deal with this. And, and I love that. The, the Vice President of the United States saying he's obsessed with UAP. Great. Let's start there. Look, there's also been a surge. Um, I was looking up, you know, how has the statistics been of sightings? And I went to our old pal at the National UFO Reporting Center, and there were over 2,000 reportings. There's a surge in the US of UFO sightings and

• 20:34Jeremy Corbell?

  reportings with, with his organization. Um, I think it was like, I wrote it down, hotspots like New York, there were 66 since the beginning of the year. Michigan, 36, Illinois, 34. Not all of these are going to be, you know, the greatest cases ever, but there is a surge and that surge shows me that people are looking up, they're thinking about it, they're reporting it. And I'm real happy about that. I did also see in the news, and I want to be really clear, no, I'm not Nostradamus. I saw this thing all over the web. Did you see that shit where Avi Loeb's, yeah, okay, let's talk about that for a second. Um, so everybody knows that it's been all over the media that Avi Loeb is going around talking about that, uh, there is an interstellar object,

• 21:19Jeremy Corbell?

  you know, maybe a comet, maybe not a comet, maybe an alien spacecraft, and it's coming towards Earth. It's like the third one we've found. It's really fucking big, which is interesting. And, um, I, I listened to what he had to say about it. Look, Harvard educated guy, you know, he's, he's been very vocal about this, which I appreciate very much. Um, but in listening to him, it felt like when you take away all the big words, what you're hearing is that there's an object coming this way. And because of the trajectory, it's so limited that it could come in at this trajectory. It might be an alien spacecraft. And I, I just honestly, you know, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't, I just don't buy it. It just sounds, um, like a reach that

• 22:03Jeremy Corbell?

  because of these trajectories at these times, that we're going to jump right into an alien spacecraft. Now, people did put next to his articles where I'm talking in my last show about the lie. So all of a sudden I look like fucking Nostradamus, right? Not the case. This is not, I did not predict this. Um, so just to be clear, there is an undercurrent of intelligence agency individuals trying to quote, "shape" the emerging UAP narrative, who have been using this idea of a craft coming to earth to um employ individuals to to harness their their mics, their microphones and their voices

• 22:43Jeremy Corbell?

  and their commitment. And that's what I was warning people about. That was nonsense, that that is a reemerging narrative that will continue to come. So this might be, in a way, this might be a sort of symptom of what I was warning people about. Uh, but it's not directly what I was saying. I mean, this thing's gonna come by Earth the closest, I think, November, November sixteenth or something. I don't, I don't know for sure, but it's not, it's not twenty twenty seven. And also, by the way, what I said, I never actually said the words in the show, twenty twenty seven. There is a range that people were kind of spreading within media and UFO um industry, and that was between twenty twenty seven and twenty thirty six. You know, leave yourself a big ass window if you're telling

• 23:28Jeremy Corbell?

  lies to people. That's what you do. So, look, if I'm wrong, we're gonna be invaded and it doesn't matter anyway. However, I just want to be really clear, which is that there is this undercurrent from intelligence agencies, and I absolutely wanted to warn people that I thought it was bullshit. I still think it's bullshit, and I think it's a way to harness people's attention, and I think it's diabolical. But this is not exactly what I was talking

• 23:52George Knapp?

  about. I was really surprised uh by Dr. Loeb's uh comments. I mean, he's a really smart guy. Astronomer, Harvard, um, and for him to even announce that that there's interstellar object, uh, you know, the third one maybe ever that we've detected, that is a big story by itself. To suggest it might not be just a rock, it might be an alien craft, that's provocative. But within the range of, hey, we can speculate what it is, we don't know yet. To take it to the next step. It could be hostile. They could be coming here to kill us and invade Earth. Where the hell does that come from? How does he even propose that? How could you presume to know what the intent of aliens are?

• 24:36George Knapp?

  If this is an alien craft? I don't understand who is whispering in his ear? Because it's not a good look for him. I like that guy. He's smart. I'm glad he's out on the forefront of this, but it felt like somehow someone was whispering in his ear and and asking him to spread that message. Maybe that's the distraction from Epstein. I don't know, but it was very troubling to me and really surprising.

• 25:02Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, I mean, there's a few options here if we are speculating, like he's speculating. And, you know, one of those options is, okay, they need funding. They need money. So you say sensational things about aliens coming and then all of a sudden you get people's attention like within Congress? And that sort of thing and it funnels attention and money. You know, or, uh, cause he didn't say it just like, you know, kind of generally, this is like, he was saying some weird things that were kind of very provocative. So the other option is that this is an undercurrent to the lie, to the false narrative that I've kind of told people I believe is, is the, is the key here. And, you know, he is somehow influenced to propagate this idea of some alien invasion and just put that seed

• 25:45Jeremy Corbell?

  into population. I don't know. I don't know the guy. I need to like talk with him to kind of figure out where I think he's standing, but he did get the attention of, of Congress. There was a really cool letter that Representative Luna sent to NASA. It was based on Avi's paper about this, Avi Loeb's paper. And basically when I read it a few times to make sure it was like the, the, the, the letter from Representative Luna was trying to get this, uh, it's called a Juno spacecraft that's orbiting Jupiter. Um, to possibly task it to go get a better imagery of this interstellar object, which I'm all for. I think that is so cool. But it was basically like, hey, will you check if we got enough gas to go look at this thing? That's all that, that it was saying.

• 26:28Jeremy Corbell?

  And again, I think it's a great thing to do. The internet has said, oh, there's not enough fuel and they did all these calculations. I don't know. But I, but I do think that. More exploration of this object would be really cool, but I don't know why Ovi Loeb would go into this doom thing. Was it influenced by some intelligence agency telling this guy to start seeding the public with this idea of an imminent invasion? I don't know, man. I don't know.

• 26:55George Knapp?

  Interstellar object, that's for sure. It's big. It's heading this way. Oh, that's solid. That's good. Two, it might be an alien craft. All right, I guess you you put it in the mix, maybe. Two, they're evil aliens and they're coming to kill us. That that is a hell of a leap. I I still am astonished that he went there. It has to be influenced from somewhere. Perhaps in a future episode of Weaponized, we can speculate where those voices are coming from, because I know both of us have an idea about it. Uh, I want to mention, you mentioned Representative Luna. I think that is a long shot proposal, but I like where her heart is. I know she has critics here and there. People of different parties and and maybe same party.

• 27:38George Knapp?

  But we think her heart is in the right place and she's working hard to get to the bottom of this stuff. And and I like what she's doing. Her colleague, our friend, Representative Tim Burchett, is sidelined briefly, sent you that article. Uh, he had an accident with a horse and uh, we've we've gone back and forth in texts and apparently there's broken bones involved. And I swear it's a cover up. Uh, I don't think he got hurt by a horse. I think he fell off a skateboard and he doesn't want to admit it.

• 28:08Jeremy Corbell?

  He's so great. Okay, send in love to Representative Burchett. Get back on that skateboard, baby. We know you're lying. We know it wasn't a horse. You've been surfing the waves with your skateboard. Um, I've seen those videos of him on a skateboard too. Um, you know, you never sideline Representative Burchett, you know, no, he'll be right in there the next moment. You know, working this issue.

• 28:29George Knapp?

  Um, moving on. So our friend, uh, Mr. Slaughter, um, who has done some great work. We had him on, uh, Weaponized earlier in the week, in the month that I was taking off from the show. We did an episode that you forced me to do, uh, but it was great stuff. He's using FOIA as a weapon as it's meant to be done, and he's making progress that other FOIA, uh, users just haven't ever been able to succeed at. Uh, what's the latest finding from him?

• 28:57Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah. So that's why we're going to pull him in because he did have another success, you know, where he combated where they didn't give him information. This is a guy that's bringing documented military, in this case, UAP cases to light that we would never see if he wasn't doing this. I just want to make sure that he tells us himself what the case is that he just broke last week so that more people can come to him because there are witnesses to this case. If you're a witness to this case, go to Dustin Slaughter. So let's bring him in. So Dustin, man, how quickly you come to, um, another revelation. I know you had to fight for this one, but let's get down to it, man. So you worked your FOIA process, and I hope since the last episode, you've gotten hopefully some calls from people that want to contribute to what you're doing, but you fought this other

• 29:42Jeremy Corbell?

  case and you found, um, and, and got them to release UAP information from a military base about a cylindrical UAP. I read your article. So tell us all about it.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. So, um, this incident occurred, uh, on the morning of September 15th, 2023, at a place called, uh, Avon Park, um, Air Force Range in, um, basically central Florida, I guess. Um, there were four service members who were transporting small UADs, um, within a restricted, uh, part of the range. Um, and, uh, as they were transporting these small UADs in these two vehicles, um, one of them caught a, uh, the glint of, of something, uh, metallic, um, out of the corner of their eye. So they looked and they saw, um, a...

• 30:35Speaker 04

  Basically like a cylinder, a cylindrical cigar shaped object approximately 500 feet away. Um, and another described the object as being, um, basically the size of, of four of the traffic helicopters. So in length.

• 30:51Jeremy Corbell?

  What year was this? This is 2023. Oh, so it's super recent.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:57Jeremy Corbell?

  And these are trained dudes that use UAVs or UASs like on their, their military installation. And these are the witnesses. Have you talked to any of the witnesses yet from the event?

• 31:07Speaker 04

  Not yet, not yet, but I would really, um, I would really like anyone who had, who had something to do with this, um, incident to, to, you know, to contact, contact me and, and so we can get some more information about the incident.

• 31:22George Knapp?

  How did you get onto this? How did you know to file that? Or did it just come in some batch of other stuff that was requested?

• 31:29Speaker 04

  It was just a batch. Uh, basically every

• 31:35Speaker 04

  five months or six months or so, I file a FOIA request with the Federal Aviation Administration. This is kind of like a regular thing, a routine thing that I do. And, um, I came across this highly redacted, um, portion of a large spreadsheet that the FAA turned over. And in that spreadsheet, um, well, I got that like many months ago and then, um, I, I, I appealed asking them to unredact that portion of the spreadsheet because I was like, that looks really juicy. And, um, they finally relented and, um,

• 32:12Speaker 04

  yeah, so this was a, so basically I, I should, I should probably explain to you a little bit about the, the process of how this got reported. Real quick, um, so these four service members on the, on their range contacted their, uh, their superior, their superior, uh, once he collect, once they collected all that information, uh, contacted the FAA's military desk at a, uh, uh, basically like an air traffic control center, uh, uh, closer, I think in Orlando it was. And then Orlando contacted basically the highest.

• 32:47Speaker 04

  FAA Security Echelon in the organization is called the JTAC, the Joint Air Traffic Operations Command. And that's how that that that that report got through to to the FOIA devices though.

• 33:00George Knapp?

  And about the incident, was there any engagement by the the objects that they just happened to be seen as they're going by? Or they pay attention and recognize that these guys were doing something interesting?

• 33:12Speaker 04

  No, I mean, there's again, there's not a whole lot of information, unfortunately, so I don't, I, you know, but but the the report that I have makes it pretty clear that this object appeared to be stationary, I think. And and basically, there was no acceleration when it disappeared. It was literally was described as it just disappeared. And we've heard of this kind of, you know, behavior before from other UAP. So.

• 33:43Jeremy Corbell?

  So like a basics ties, you got a cylindrical or cigar ship UAP in 2023 over a military installation where they know everything about drones. You got multiple.

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• 34:52Jeremy Corbell?

  Firsthand eyewitnesses, the thing ends up like dematerializing, it sounds like. And by the length of it, how many helicopters was it in length?

• 35:02Speaker 04

  Like it was three or four.

• 35:05Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so that's at least um one hundred and thirty-five to one hundred and you know fifty-five feet. So so that's a pretty sizable object. If you could get in touch with any of these eyewitnesses. So if if you're an eyewitness to this, twenty twenty-three, what's the area again?

• 35:24Speaker 04

  Uh, the area was, it's called Avon Park Air Force Range. Um, it was in a restricted restricted range, um, and they, I guess, presumably they were going to test these drones a- and in in this range. Um, or fly these drones in this range. Uh, the other, the other thing real quick that I wanted to point out too was that the um. The the people who produce, who actually produced the report noted that there was no, nothing detected. Um, on radar coming in or out of that range during that time period. So this thing was definitely anomalous.

• 35:59Jeremy Corbell?

  Well, I'm sure people were ready to say it's a, it's a drone, it's a balloon, all the, all the standard stuff. In fact, the irony is that these guys who saw it were transporting drones, UAVs. They they know their stuff. That's where they test this stuff.

• 36:15Speaker 04

  The only drones that were scheduled to be out on that range that they were the ones that they were transporting, so.

• 36:21Jeremy Corbell?

  Wow. So hopefully, I mean, they didn't want you to know about this. They blacked it all out and you're like, there's gotta be something interesting underneath those redactions. And that's how you got all this info, right?

• 36:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, when I, when I saw the type of redactions, the, the code that they use, I was like, number one, that's military. Number two, that's gotta be juicy as hell because they redacted the entire portion of it. So, yeah.

• 36:43George Knapp?

  We have no indication that anybody had a cellphone and got images, or do you, do you know?

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Um, there's no indication of that in the report, um, but you know, I suspect because the incident happened so quickly that they probably didn't have a chance to whip out their cellphones and take a photograph or a video, so.

• 37:01Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, you never know, man, and around military installations too, there are a lot of cameras. And so oftentimes there is data that you just gotta ask for that's been hidden, like, uh, Georgia's friend Jay Stratton, when he went after cases, he went after the data. And so I, I think that once you kind of bring this to the surface a little bit, so my hope on you coming on Weaponized is people understand the date, the location, the, the general observation. We know there's at least three plus witnesses, right?

• 37:28Speaker 04

  Yes, yes.

• 37:30Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so, so will they come forward and talk with you in confidence about it? I'm sure they didn't have to sign any NDAs, they can talk to you. So if they do talk to you along the line, that would be a huge update. So anybody that knows anybody in that area, start asking questions.

• 37:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I also want, uh, the Old Domain Anomaly Resolution Office to release their findings because they are still investigating this incident two years later, so.

• 37:53George Knapp?

  Well, they're very helpful and thorough and, you know, transparency is the byword over there.

• 37:59Jeremy Corbell?

  Wait, so Arrow knew about this, Arrow knew about this event before you got the details?

• 38:05Jeremy Corbell?

  Oh, interesting. I wonder why they wouldn't tell the public about this a little bit. So they definitely know. Arrow definitely knows and has talked with the direct eyewitnesses to this account. And it would be interesting if a transparency organization such as Arrow would bring those people to testify about what they saw, by the way.

• 38:26George Knapp?

  If you know who Arrow has been, has been in touch with is skeptics. Now, we learned in the last couple of weeks that they've been bringing in skeptics to consult with them, you know, people who are real experts at, uh, avionics and the planes and sensor systems, even though they've never flown or used any of them. Uh, it's almost like Arrow gets its debunking ideas from people who are on social media. I don't know. So they should bring you in, Dustin, and talk to you about what you know.

• 38:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I, I, and I hope that some of those debunkers actually admit that they want to go meet with Arrow.

• 39:01Jeremy Corbell?

  Right, I mean, they should. I mean, I'm transparent about what talking with Congress. I mean, they they should. Hey, let me ask you this. Um, you guys hear that Neil deGrasse Tyson has an episode coming out with the current Director of Arrow Lufskoslovsky? Lufskoslovsky, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So so that'll be, I think that launches on the 8th of August. So we're all interested to hear how Kozlovsky, how he goes about talking about his organization. People say he's a great guy. If he's honest, can't wait to hear. So hey, Neil deGrasse Tyson, let's hear, let's hear the episode.

• 39:32George Knapp?

  That should be a high ranker for him, right, Jeremy? Right up there with Weaponized in the podcast rankings? Let's see, let's see. Dustin, let me ask you this. Uh, the last time we talked to you, you know, we kind of encouraged people to go ahead and reach out and help you out. And I forwarded some messages from folks who say, I'm all in. How can I help? I'll file FOIA requests. Did anybody get in touch with you? Are you talking to folks like that? And are they helping?

• 39:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, I I have had a number of contacts with people. Um, the uh, the the the the challenge has been

• 40:05Speaker 04

  basically kind of, um, I can help them with the with the FOIA process itself. Um, but they want, they want me to tell them like what to what to file and um, you know, I I'm kind of of the mind of like, just kind of throwing a net out. Whatever you're curious about, going after it. And you don't need, you don't necessarily need to have all the details of an incident. Just hit an agency, you know, uh, ask them with, you know, given the timeframe to look for some documents to look for, and you never know what you're gonna find. Sometimes it's some really interesting stuff. So um, I encourage more people to to contact me and you guys and um, you know, I'm more than happy to to to give them a a a head, like a push and giving, give, you know, give them language to use for the FOIA request.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  But I really think it's important for people to use their imaginations and and and kind of just cast a big wide net and see what, see what they get to. So.

• 40:59George Knapp?

  Thanks for keeping us in the loop Dustin. You're doing great work and someday Jeremy, you and I will be begging him to, can we please come on your podcast or your site and give us a little bit of attention?

• 41:12Jeremy Corbell?

  He's got a shiny star. He's got to start the podcast. But Dustin, it is cool when you get very specific info, like for example, when you shoot a missile out of UAP and it bounces off. So I know that you're up to other things where you have very specific info you're going for. We're not going to talk about that here. We want to let the process work. But when you get very specific info about UAP designated UAP videos with date and time and location and kinetic action against those UAP, man, you know, they can't hide that from you when you get that specific. So even though, use your imagination, broad spectrum, there are opportunities in your work to specifically go after certain UAP

• 41:55Jeremy Corbell?

  videos. And I want to tell everybody Dustin is doing that. And I'm excited to see where he lands. Yeah, man. So that's great. I love that Dustin updates us. I really look forward. I know he's working on cases that he can't say right now. And I can't wait to see if he gets data because he'll, he might get more data than Arrow if he keeps going this way. And I just want to conclude also that I am optimistic about September. I'm very optimistic, more than optimistic. I know that they've got people to choose from now who are firsthand. And I really hope that they do get a voice under oath at the hearing. It'll be one of the best hearings we've ever had.

• 42:30George Knapp?

  A word of caution along those lines. You know, it seems like every week, a new whistleblower pops up on social media with some pretty huge claims, witness whistleblower, whatever term you want to use. I worked here. I was, I had the material in my hands. I was at Lockheed and they announced themselves, not to Congress, not in a SCIF, not in proper procedures where their legal rights are protected, but just on social media. Be careful, you know, caveat emptor, be careful because it sure seemed to be a heck of a lot of these folks coming forward and it feels like they're lobbying to be included

• 43:13George Knapp?

  as a witness in a hearing and we don't know how that would end up. Just be cautious on what you accept as as being real. I saw our friend Ross Coltard has has done some really good reporting. He's reporting, for example, the return of drones.

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• 44:27George Knapp?

  Uh, over New Jersey, these orbs, there's video that's pretty interesting. I've been getting reports from Florida, a heck of a lot, a spike of unknown activity in the skies over Florida, which has long been a hotspot. And, um, and we love getting that kind of information. Don't know how to analyze it. We are not image analysts. We have no expertise in that area, but are always glad to see it, right?

• 44:53Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, yeah. And we do know image analysts, you know, that can help us out and keep it quiet if we need to do that. So yeah, cases keep piling in. It's an interesting time with that. Do want to say two things. A buddy of mine, he made all the movie posters for each of my movies on Netflix and Hulu. Name, his name is Scott Nice, and he made this cool song where he samples, you know, uh, things that I've said before and, and he put it out, I'll put it out on X. But he's put it out on his Instagram and the guy's a really talented musician named Scott Nice and he's, he's helped me and the UFO, UFO topic. He's helped a lot by creating a beautiful artwork over the years. Also, um, there was a Netflix show, we talked about it last episode, but I actually watched it now.

• 45:35Jeremy Corbell?

  Trainwreck, Storm Area 51 on Netflix, two parts, watch it now. And, you know, it was pretty cool, man. I, I was worried that they were gonna kind of, um, twist the narrative a little bit. They didn't tell everything. They were making a show to kind of, you know, it's called Trainwreck. They have a show called Poop Cruise. So obviously they're making something that's kind of entertaining and fun to watch. But yeah, I think it's worth watching. It shows the power of the meme culture, you know, after the Lazar movie came out. And after, uh, Bob and I went on the Rogan show and this kid made a meme and it got really wild. It took like virtual life into the, the, the public realm and nobody knew what was gonna go on. You remember all that Storm Area 51 stuff.

• 46:20Jeremy Corbell?

  So it was just kind of neat to see their interpretation of it. I will say they, they weren't thorough in some ways, but that's okay. It was a good show. People should watch it.

• 46:29George Knapp?

  I have not seen it yet. I will be watching it. I'm glad to not be in it. Uh, you and I were both interviewed for it. I'm very happy that I got on the cutting room floor. You're not a bad guy in it, right?

• 46:41Jeremy Corbell?

  No, I'm not a bad guy in it. So they missed the mark on that one. They could have really tried to make me a bad guy. But no, it, it was fun. I have a few little cameos in it. I, I was helping the kid navigate and so were you at the time, the FBI were trying to get him a lawyer because we didn't know if they were coming after him or in what way. It's an entertaining little snippet, shows a part of the reality and it's neat to watch.

• 47:02George Knapp?

  Something closer to earth and actual reality. I saw some video that was posted on dreamlandresort.com. That Jorg, our buddy Jorg Arnu's website, that's all things Area 51. This video was posted by a guy who's now on YouTube. Uncanny Expeditions, Uncanny Expeditions. And he posts these videos, really great images of Area 51 from Tikaboo, which has been the only remaining place we can really see it. He's found a second location, high up, that seems to be a better vantage point. I just saw it this morning, the images. If you can find it either on dreamlandresort.com or look up Uncanny Expeditions.

• 47:45George Knapp?

  It's really cool image, imagery of the base.

• 47:49Jeremy Corbell?

  Talking about people that get raided by OSI and FBI, you know, Jorg, you know, how, how is he doing after he got completely fricking raided by the feds? And now he's putting up new videos on his website about Tikaboo and whatnot?

• 48:03George Knapp?

  Obviously, he's not all that intimidated. I mean, if you haven't been on the website for a while, he basically says, "My website is endorsed by the FBI because they raided him and took all his stuff." I think he regrets not having access to all that material he'd collected over the years. He's had no communications whatsoever with the federal government or law enforcement about whether he'll ever get it back. They have, I think, five years to decide whether they're going to file charges. Obviously, they're not filing charges. They just wanted to mess with him and send a message, I think, to other people who are Area 51 curious, folks who collect information, images, that you better watch your step. I don't think that it had the intended effect. Jorg is still in business, and it's always interesting stuff there.

• 48:47George Knapp?

  He was reporting, for example, about these wildfires that were coming from both directions toward Rachel and Area 51, clouds of smoke. The, I think the government, the test site folks, the air force, were just going to let these fires burn themselves out. What the heck, it's just desert, you know, what can it harm? And it was a couple of hundred acres, became 5,000 acres, then became 35,000 acres, before they took any action to try to get it under control.

• 49:15Jeremy Corbell?

  Well, speaking about people raided by the FBI, so then I hear that we're gonna get our Bob Lazar fix coming up this summer, that that new movie might be coming out with our pal Bob. Is that the case?

• 49:27George Knapp?

  That's what I've heard. I've been in touch with Luigi, the director of this. He anticipate that it would come out this summer. We're down to the last month of summer, so hopefully in a number of weeks. I know he's putting the finishing touches on it. You and I have both seen these virtual reality images that he created, these goggles where it looks like you're inside S4. And it's down to where the bricks were, the color of the walls, nuts and rivets and things like that, as described by Lazar. If it was just a film about those images, it would be worth the price of admission, whatever it is. But we're getting close. I know that Bob and Luigi are pretty excited, and I can't wait to see it.

• 50:11Jeremy Corbell?

  Me too, yeah. Bob's such a nerd. He's like, "It looks just like S4!" And it's so cool to see. So anyway, wish them luck with that endeavor. It'll be neat for the world to see that. I hope it comes out soon. You know, I love watching that stuff, too. So, all right, man. Well, thanks for coming out of hibernation for Weaponized. Are you with us? Are you back?

• 50:30George Knapp?

  No, no, no. I'm taking this month off, too. I'll talk to you in September, which means me taking this month off means you will call me every single day.

• 50:39Jeremy Corbell?

  That's right. That's right. We'll have an episode next week. All right, George, good to see you, man.

• 50:43George Knapp?

  Talk to you later.