S2E2: BONUS: Inside The Home Life Of Laura Lynn Jackson

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• 0:00Ky Dickens?

  We wanted to release a bonus episode looking at the inner workings of Laura Lynn Jackson's family, her three children, and her husband. Originally, this was going to be a section in episode two of season two, but it was so dense and beautiful that we wanted to make it a specific episode. It gives such wonderful and rich insight into what it's like to be married to or raised by a world-class famous medium, and hopefully it humanizes and demystifies those with the gift even further. Hi, everyone. This is Kai Dickens, and you're listening to the Consciousness Cassettes from TTT Media.

• 0:35Ky Dickens?

  In our first series, The Telepathy Tapes, non-speakers showed us that telepathy is possible, shattering our assumptions about the world itself. In this series, we're turning to others who've also been dismissed, doubted, or mocked for the ways they claim to know, see, heal, or create. What if only by listening to those who've been ignored, we could unlock the deepest mysteries of who we are, where we come from, and where we're going? This is the Consciousness Cassettes, and we're opening up the next channel.

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• 1:38Ky Dickens?

  When investigating something as mysterious and as contested as mediumship, you have to hold two truths at once: the science and the lived experience. Without both, you're only seeing half the picture. Laura has passed rigorous double-blind tests. She's astonished researchers and brought comfort to strangers, but she's also a mother and a former English teacher, and a human being, moving through the world like the rest of us. And that matters maybe most, because history has painted mediums as saints, charlatans, prophets, and frauds, sometimes in the same breath. And to really understand the work, you have to humanize the life between the readings. So I went to the people who know Laura best, her family.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Laura and I met when I was in law school. At the time we met, it was just completely different.

• 2:22Ky Dickens?

  This is Laura's husband, Garrett.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  Laura was a teacher. She'd been teaching for just a few years. She mentioned early on that she had these abilities, but she wasn't actively reading. It wasn't a part of her, like, normal daily routine. So I knew that going into it, but all through dating in the first few years of our marriage really had nothing to do with mediumship and connections to the other side.

• 2:46Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  I think one of the things that surprises people most about Laura and our family is that we are just incredibly normal. Like, we're just an average American family. We rarely walk around discussing mediumship and spirituality. It really doesn't come up all that much.

• 3:03Ky Dickens?

  And Garrett, I love that you're a lawyer because, you know, it feels like the furthest profession from a medium. And I'm just curious as to some of your personal conversations with Laura. Is there any advice that you've given to her or vice versa that comes to mind?

• 3:14Speaker 02

  I have to remind Laura this from time to time is that there's always going to be a hardcore percentage of the population that is just not going to be able to wrap their minds around this. They're not going to believe it. They're always going to view it as woo-woo, is fraudulent. And unfortunately, the world of mediumship, I mean, let's face it, throughout history, it's had a pretty sketchy reputation. And I think for good reason. I think it's been abused and exploited by people through the centuries to take advantage of people. Having said that, though, that's not to say that the phenomenon itself isn't legitimate, because it very much is.

• 3:52Ky Dickens?

  And how do Laura and Garrett's children, Hayden, Juliette, and Ashley, feel about growing up with a mom who's a medium?

• 3:58Speaker 03

  My name's Hayden. I'm 18 years old, and I am the middle child in the family. I really grew up with a very unique perspective, I feel like, where I was always very open to this whole world that most people don't really perceive or often ignore. Throughout my life, with my close friends, I've always shared really what my mom's done and some of my experiences. And usually, over time, they learn about it more and they learn to kind of... See what I'm talking about and kind of understand the kind of ideas I'm talking about. So I have found success throughout my life, like explaining these concepts and notions to people around me. It's just something most people, when they first hear about it, they're just kind of confused. Like, how can this be real? How can your mom, you know, have this career where she does this?

• 4:44Speaker 04

  My name is Juliette Jackson. I am sixteen years old and I am a junior in high school. A lot of my life, I've felt more comforted in the concepts of this interconnectedness and light than I am afraid of it. So a lot of that has just come up and been raised around my households, household in a concept of just support and love more than anything. It's made my reality something that feels more filled with love than I can ever fully explain to other people. Because having her as my mother has created this, it's created a relationship, not only with myself, but with the interconnectedness of all of us and the world beyond us, that nothing is ever truly gone.

• 5:26Speaker 04

  It's just opened me up so much more as a person and being able to empathize with other people and understand them and understand their viewpoints. Having her as my mother, it's just, it is so beyond unique and beautiful. It's also just allowed me to push forward this concept that we all are united.

• 5:47Speaker 05

  I'm her oldest child. I'm twenty-four years old.

• 5:51Ky Dickens?

  This is Ashley Jackson, Laura's oldest, and Hayden and Juliette's big sister.

• 5:55Speaker 05

  My family is like, pretty normal in all terms, except that there are these abilities in our family. And I guess for like my entire family, like at least me and my siblings, it's just been like the way we grew up and we all kind of like, okay, like, that's just the way it is. But everyone's very open and talkative and like, it's, it's fun. Growing up, it was just like very normal to me because she always had that and, you know, she used to be a teacher, but would also do readings and everything. So I didn't know it wasn't common or normal or these things. And since I was like a kid, I guess I was in tune with that.

• 6:37Speaker 05

  So I would pick up on people's energy, like whether we went to the store or anywhere and I could kind of like pick up on whatever mood they're in or what they're going through. And it adds, I think, this cool layer to, you know, have like shared kind of abilities and be able to talk about that stuff. But sometimes, um, especially with me and my mom, we're very tuned in to each other's energy. And even though if I, you know, I'm not here at the house, I can kind of, we can kind of feel each other's energy sometimes and it can be intense, but it's, it's good.

• 7:12Ky Dickens?

  Garrett, Laura and the kids all insist that their home is just like any other home. Or like Ash explained, growing up as kids, you don't know what's normal or uncommon for a family. It's just your family. I actually experienced that firsthand when I started working on this project about four years ago, when I overheard my daughter playing Barbie with her friends. They were explaining each Barbie's profile. One was a dentist and one was a teacher and one was a non-speaker who was telepathic. Her friends looked at her like she was crazy, saying, what's a non-speaker who's telepathic? And my daughter said, oh, it's someone who can't speak, but they can communicate with their minds. And I loved how quickly they all just rolled with it. But all of Laura's kids acknowledged that growing up with a mom who's a medium has opened them up to recognizing what's behind the veil of mortality.

• 7:54Ky Dickens?

  And, and do you, do your friends and, you know, the people in your life know about your mom's gifts? Is that something that most people know about? And, and how do people receive, receive it?

• 8:05Speaker 05

  It, it is a thing almost everybody knows about at this point.

• 8:09Ky Dickens?

  Here's Juliette and Hayden.

• 8:11Speaker 05

  It's something I'm very open about because I feel very passionate about it. Like within a school situation, an ego sphere, my entire school knows about it. She's very well known throughout the community. And it's something I really enjoy talking about and I'm very passionate about within my friends and within my community around me.

• 8:30Speaker 03

  Oftentimes people like make jokes about it, be like, oh, it's a scam, but. Usually when I explain some of these experiences to people, they tend to open up to it for the most time. And at the same time, like if people aren't opening up to it, that's their choice, you know, I'm really, I feel like I'm here to kind of explain these experiences and the things I've dealt with in my life and the ways it's affected my life. But sometimes it's just hard to kind of convince people. But what I do try to do is I'll tell people, open up to this, try it yourself. And a lot of times I've seen, you know, friends asking for signs, things along those lines, they're actually able to pick up on it as well. And it's really changed their perspective.

• 9:10Ky Dickens?

  I was curious, after listening to Hayden, Juliette and Ashley described their connection with their mother and their connection with their intuition. Do they have her gift too? As far as your kids, like, do any of them seem to have the gift? Or do you know if anyone above Laura, like grandmas or aunts had the gift, if you will? Like, do you think it runs in families?

• 9:28Speaker 02

  I do. And I think it runs fairly, it seems to be her mom's side of the family, both her aunts, her aunt has it to a degree, her mother has it to a degree.

• 9:38Ky Dickens?

  Here's Garrett, Laura's husband.

• 9:40Speaker 02

  I've seen her brother be pretty accurate in a kind of a scary way. It's in a good way, but just really, pretty wild to see. He doesn't do it often, but he'll do it a bit here and there. It's just, it's wild. My kids display it to a degree, but

• 9:58Speaker 02

  nobody has it the way Laura has it. You know what I mean? It's just a true, true profound gift. But you know, as Laura says all the time, we all have this ability to some degree and it it comes out in different ways. But you know, we all have the capacity to be intuitive.

• 10:12Speaker 05

  I think everyone has the capacity to be able to become in tune and become more in tune.

• 10:20Ky Dickens?

  And here's Ashley, Laura and Garrett's oldest.

• 10:22Speaker 05

  Some people are maybe born with a higher percentage of that perception. It's like if there's a radio dial for volume, maybe some people are just born with it a little more turned up, or they're born more sensitive. I've done readings for people a lot of the time. I'd base it off of like tarot cards, but when I would do it, I wouldn't go like just based off of the card set. I'd almost use it like a tool to like, what I call like tap into the energy. And it's almost like I could see kind of like a screen in my head and get information, but it's information that I'm not getting from myself. It's not like I'm coming to some kind of logical conclusion.

• 11:04Speaker 05

  It was almost like a thought or information like planted in my head. Some of the readings I did, like there was really specific information for people that came through or like stuff that was going to happen, very specific, and it did end up happening.

• 11:19Ky Dickens?

  From what Laura's family has described, maybe it's both nature and nurture that has opened their hearts and minds to receiving information that may have opened up their natural born gifts. And yes, they could be born with this ability and there could be a genetic element to it. We will do a deep dive on that in a future Talk Tracks episode.

• 11:35Speaker 03

  I think all my sisters certainly do in a way. I can't speak for all of them specifically, but I can definitely speak in my own experiences and the very interesting things that I've experienced firsthand.

• 11:47Ky Dickens?

  Here's Hayden explaining his connection to his intuition.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  I'm able to kind of use my intuition in my screen. Like my mom always describes the screen she has in which she's able to conduct mediumship. I do have that screen and I'm able to use it and visualize things and sometimes receive messages and information.

• 12:05Ky Dickens?

  That's so cool. So you have the same screen and but like it'll be more psychic images coming in, not medium. So like will be like names of things or like feelings or what does it look like for you?

• 12:16Speaker 03

  It can be, it can be a lot of things depending on what the circumstances. Sometimes it will be, it could be phrases, sometimes it could be images. I've had profound experiences in dreams before that have come true in real life. Just these undeniable things, I feel. In some way, I am able to perceive energy and kind of tap into a collective consciousness in which I'm able to kind of sense the turning tides of the world. There's been times where I felt like really, really tense about something. And then right after, you know, a large event happened, it happened with COVID. It happened with, you know, the Ukrainian war, it happened on October 7th.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  I've just had a strange ability to kind of be able to pick up on certain things before they happen. And I really attribute that to growing up around this and growing up with my mom kind of teaching me how to be open to all of these things. It's a hard thing to understand because it's just, it can sound really out there sometimes. But from, from my firsthand experience.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Between myself and seeing what my sisters have done, there are certainly some psychic abilities, I would say, that run in our family.

• 13:28Speaker 04

  I feel like definitely in some ways I do possess some of the same capabilities of her.

• 13:34Ky Dickens?

  And again, here's 16-year-old Juliette.

• 13:36Speaker 04

  A lot of my life, though, I felt, I don't know why, but almost scared to fully dive into it and see if I fully relate to it in the same way she does. I do feel like I can connect in a lot of, in some of the same ways that she does. Maybe not exactly, but I do feel a connection in the same way. One of the biggest concepts that my mom teaches is that you don't need her to connect with the people that you've lost. She is an interpreter of the situation that is provided with her. She connects to this love between two people and she transmits the concepts of it. When, in a situation like me, where I've, I've lost somebody very close to me in my life. And I have had the ability to receive such, just this inundation of signs and love

• 14:20Speaker 04

  from the situation of having somebody cross. Like I've had, I've just asked for the most abstract signs. And in the beginning, it was very scary because I was like, this is the situation that's going to test everything I believe in. If I actually trust in these signs and they came through. And just within the first month of crossing, it was absolutely incredulous how many signs I'd received, how many signs I'd asked for. And just over and over again, been able to have this understanding that the person that I love that has crossed is still there and still wanting to communicate.

• 14:58Ky Dickens?

  What, are you able to share what the signs were or is that too personal?

• 15:01Speaker 04

  So, back in the beginning, right when my friend had crossed, I was asking very specifically for very, very small, little tiny origami animals. And I specifically had wanted it to be little origami cranes and animals like that. And so it was within the first week of her crossing, my mother had gotten a package in the mail and she said, Juliette, come down here. I just feel like I need to give this to you. And it was by this little brand. My mom didn't know that. I didn't tell anybody about the sign at all. But they ship out little tiny paper cranes with every single purchase. And it's, it's about the size of a penny. And she told me, she's like, I don't know why I feel that I need to give this to you, but I do.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  And she hands it to me and I just start like, I'm like, this was one of my signs. And then there was another situation in which someone I'm very close, one of my loved ones. He is very talented at making origami animals. And I had just met him pretty recently after this. And so just out of the blue, one day he comes and he gives me this little origami paper crane too. And it was like, I don't know, I feel like you need to have this. So I feel like a lot of it just comes from these connections with other people. And within the week that my friend had crossed, I was asking also very specifically for, it had to be paper purple butterflies.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  And there was a day where there was a presentation in class that I just couldn't sit through. So I go out on a walk to avoid it. So I just go in the hallways and on the floor crumpled up, I find this beautiful little purple paper butterfly. Just sitting right in the walkway. I've just received so many signs over time that I've asked for. And they've just made their way to me and I think it's so beautiful.

• 16:50Ky Dickens?

  And how does that make you like, I, and I mean, has this formulated all your views on? Like faith and afterlife and like the world religions and is there one true religion? You know what I mean? Like, like where do you fall on that stuff? Having been such an intimate part of the other side your whole life?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  For me, I think the experience of losing somebody so close to me and then getting to delve into my interactions with it and within getting these signs really solidified my belief that there is this language of love that connects us all. And what I think it comes down to is that at the very core of every religious value comes back to this concept of love and being connected and having this ability to speak when we're gone, whether it be being here now and being able to speak with some sort of God or anything that somebody feels. It all comes down to the same concept of love. And for me, for me, I, I do practice Christian beliefs.

• 17:52Speaker 04

  But the way I see it is I don't see it as any different than somebody who practices Islamic beliefs or Jewish beliefs or any other sort of theological beliefs. It all just. I feel like we all come back to the same concept of love and what we try to interact with at the end of the day is feeling the world around us when we're gone and how we can discuss it with each other.

• 18:14Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, that's wonderful. Are there any memorable moments from watching your mom do these sort of like, you know, the, the, I forgot what they're called, like the, the kind of parlor readings or the

• 18:24Speaker 04

  Like the galleries?

• 18:25Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, the galleries.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 18:26Ky Dickens?

  Where you're like, what? I mean, I remember seeing your mom do one once and it was so unbelievable that I like could have fallen on my chair.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  I go with her to almost all of her gallery readings. Whenever she goes out to do workshops or gallery readings, I end up becoming an assistant and the biggest takeaway that I get from it is the profound sense of love I feel in the room whenever she's doing gallery readings. It creates this profoundness of the intangibility of it where I could never be skeptical of it after witnessing all that she does. I sit in the very back and I just watch it from the outside and a lot of the time I'm just like, wow. I remember there was this one, there was this one very specific time where there was a quadrant, I think it was about four people. And I think their children have all crossed or something like that.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  And they all have very similar names too. And I remember just watching her bounce out names and it was just like, oh, I know that one. I know that one. It relates to me. It relates to me. And she had, she had brought up this concept of somebody that had crossed due to a driving incident. And the fact that it was, I don't know how to explain this, but it was, it was, I think the parents had been holding on to a lot of anger from the person who had hit their child and caused this crossing. And it's amazing to watch her connect these deep rooted pains that it seems nothing can get through to.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  Like in that situation, she, she brought up the idea that it was being transmitted to her, that it, it was an accident. And the one who had crossed understands what happened and could forgive it. And that they should be able to forgive and move forward and have just this understanding of love towards not only the child who had crossed, but also this profound sense of love for the person who had. Cause the accident. And I think just the thing I watch as she does these readings and she picks up on these obscure, these crazy concepts that even the parents themselves have forgotten or anybody who's lost somebody important to them. And she brings them back to the people and makes them understand that

• 20:39Speaker 04

  everything is still there and nothing has been lost and that a lot of the people who come to this have this profound sense that their child is gone and they don't have a way to connect to them anymore.

• 20:49Ky Dickens?

  I asked Ashley, who also attends her mom's gallery readings, about how these readings have informed or changed her worldview. Watching your mom, how would you describe the impact that's had on other people's lives? Like, what are some of the reactions you've seen? And I guess, how does that impact you, you and your view of not just these abilities, but also your mom's gifts?

• 21:11Speaker 05

  It's only further like cemented more than already is like my belief in it. And it's really cool to be able to see her do that and the way it helps other people. Because like I'll, you know, I've seen her do that before and people's reaction to it. And while it's almost like being like a, you know, you are a third party watcher to the situation because the people she's connecting to on the other side, like I don't know them and I don't know the people that she's doing the reading for like personally, but they get very like affected. A lot of them get emotional and cry, but in a good way, it's like information they want to hear that's reassuring. And information out there like there's no way anyone could have known this.

• 21:55Speaker 05

  It was something very specific or an inside joke or, and it, it seems very healing to for people to have that experience and it's something really nice to see and watch.

• 22:08Ky Dickens?

  Laura's kids acknowledge that though there are skeptics, the belief in mediumship has become more widely accepted. I wonder too, because I was terrified to talk to most people about this slap the tapes when I was working on it because I was just like, oh, they're gonna, their eyes are gonna gloss over and they're gonna think that I've lost it. But then when I started talking about it, I found that it would bring up deep connections with people that I would have never had a connection with at all. Because they were very willing then to start sharing more real parts of themselves, right?

• 22:38Speaker 02

  Absolutely. I mean, again, it's the kind of thing like i- it's not something people bring up on a generally on a day to day basis, but. You know, once they know it's something that you're interested in, or it's a topic you raise, then you're right.

• 22:53Ky Dickens?

  Here's Garrett again.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  It opens up kind of a floodgate and you start to hear all these stories and people's experiences. And it's incredible. And truthfully, I've always said this since the beginning. It's like, I don't blame people for questioning this, for wondering if it's real. I think those are completely normal things to think about. I mean, if, look, if I hadn't experienced the world of what Laura does in a direct way myself, I don't know that I'd believe it. You know what I mean? It's really the kind of thing you have to experience for yourself in one way or the other, whether it's through talking with somebody who's had a personal reading and, you know, information comes out that there's just absolutely no possible way that anybody

• 23:36Speaker 02

  else could know. There are things, experiences that happen on kind of the fringes of our society that you don't encounter on a day-to-day basis, but just because they're rare or uncommon, that doesn't mean they aren't real. And, you know, once you start talking to other people, like you said, you realize these are universal things. These are things that are, average people are experiencing.

• 23:57Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  It's important.

• 23:58Ky Dickens?

  Laura's family calls out that love is the current running through her gift. It starts there and returns there. Nothing dark or ominous, only a profound connection. And anything centered around love makes me want to lean in even further, because love and truth seem to be good friends.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  I think it's led me to just really accept the existence of death is just a natural part of life. It's just like a cycle, I feel.

• 24:23Ky Dickens?

  Here's Hayden and Ashley.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  It's very comforting and it's like, everybody's still connected and energy still goes on. It's not something to be like stressed or scared about.

• 24:34Speaker 03

  That does bring me a lot of comfort, I feel, knowing that I'm not just gonna disappear once my physical body dies. But I think also the way in which my mom's able to receive messages from those who have crawls show that Even those who have crossed do influence our lives every day and do watch over us. And there really this, there is this divine force in everything in the universe and in this world. I think it's led me to just really accept the existence of death is just a natural part of life. It's just like a cycle, I feel.

• 25:05Speaker 04

  Is very integrated into my life. Here's Juliet again, Laura's youngest. In the same situations of loss within my friends, when they've lost somebody important or the same person that I've lost, I've, I've felt very blessed in being able to share these ideas of signs that the people that you lose are never actually gone. They're still there. It's all about your ability to connect with them in the language of love. And I think the biggest thing I want people to understand is that there is nothing to be afraid of. I understand where skeptics come from when they say that this can't be real, that it must all be orchestrated, because to believe in some of the things,

• 25:46Speaker 04

  you have to change what you understand about this paradigm and about this materialism that we exist in. And understanding that in a lot of ways, the intangibility we feel in this world affects us so much more profoundly than the tangibility we feel in materialistic things and instances such as any sort of materialistic existence that we have. And if we can understand what it feels to love, if we can understand what it feels to feel the need to cry, to understand our emotions and the intangibility that unites us in friendship, in love, in camaraderie, I don't see how it would be any different for understanding this language of love, because it's the same type of connection we feel to each other, just in a different way. It's to the people who have crossed over.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  It's to those who are never actually gone, but it is the same profoundness that you can feel interacting with these situations as you can interacting with someone you love. And to understand that you need to approach situations, not from fear, but from love, I feel.

• 26:51Speaker 04

  Profoundly in my own life, that has blown any idea of skepticism out of the water because it is just as real as any other situation or feeling you can understand.

• 27:02Ky Dickens?

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