Trump & Xi, Putin's Nuclear Warning & Kash STOPS Charlie Kirk Investigation | PBD Podcast | Ep. 676

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick to cover Trump’s breakthrough meeting with Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin’s new nuclear-powered missile warning, and Kash Patel allegedly shutting down the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s assassination. ------ 📕 REGISTER FOR BPW 2025 - FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH 2025: https://bit.ly/3IU2YWx 📺 WATCH VT COMEDY'S NEWSOM SKETCH: https://bit.ly/47oFO2o 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:17Speaker 04

  You are a one of one? My sundry, guys.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:26Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so folks, we got a couple of special people in the house. We got an Italian from New York who is furious. Maldani is gonna be the mayor.

• 1:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:36Speaker 05

  Stupid. I hate him. Go back to where you're from. Know what I'm saying?

• 1:39Adam Sosnick?

  Where's he from?

• 1:40Speaker 05

  Freaking guy. Promoting freaking terrorists, Hamas. God, we New Yorkers, how you doing? Nice outfit.

• 1:45Adam Sosnick?

  I don't like that at all.

• 1:46Speaker 05

  Very nice outfit, though, guy.

• 1:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Good to meet you, Vinnie.

• 1:48Speaker 05

  You like this curl?

• 1:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I like, I love the curl.

• 1:50Speaker 05

  He's gonna stay there the whole freaking time.

• 1:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The whole time.

• 1:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:52Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, and then we have to your left, legendary driver. He's bleeding a little bit, but he's gonna be fine.

• 1:58Speaker 05

  Look at this freaking guy. He's fine. I can go. I can go.

• 2:01Patrick Bet-David?

  And then to my right, I have no clue who we have to my right. So Adam, can you tell everybody who you are today?

• 2:07Adam Sosnick?

  You're talking about?

• 2:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's Anna?

• 2:09Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie had his own curls. I got my own curls too.

• 2:12Speaker 05

  Where's your curls?

• 2:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So what's your story?

• 2:16Adam Sosnick?

  What do you got?

• 2:18Speaker 05

  I can't hear Adam.

• 2:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Finally, the truth is out. Alright.

• 2:22Adam Sosnick?

  Everyone knows that Patrick bought David. You've been funded by either Israel or Qatar. Now, the truth is out.

• 2:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, because that's $7,000 is a lot of money. It's like life changing.

• 2:32Adam Sosnick?

  Per post.

• 2:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So, and then, listen, I'm Jazz Chisholm today, man. I'm Julie, I got my bling bling. Every time I come around your city, bling bling.

• 2:41Adam Sosnick?

  Pinky ring worth about 50?

• 2:43Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, the Yankees, ALCS ring just came in for owners. This is the Yankees ring that says David on the side.

• 2:52Adam Sosnick?

  Are you serious?

• 2:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's actually.

• 2:53Adam Sosnick?

  That's freaking great. Hey, P P, I'm gonna go take a look at this outside.

• 2:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, alright, so, having said that, we got a lot of things that we gotta be talking about. Uh, there's one rule, I think, if we give a recommendation to somebody, please take this advice, okay? Kamala, you suck going on podcasts. I'm not saying you suck, it's just, you're not good on podcasts and with the cameras on with you. I don't know why. It seriously is like, you sincerely want to listen to ideas, but it's so much of acting, that it's like, what is that thing you do with your nails on the chalkboard?

• 3:36Adam Sosnick?

  Nails on the chalkboard.

• 3:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my goodness, it's like, just, either, yeah.

• 3:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, we just lost half the audience. Either, either, you know, be yourself, or just stop acting and telling five different stories. This one lady had to stop her and say, that is a world-class, what did you call it? Pivot I've ever seen in my life. And then you see Kamala getting upset. But, uh, that's one. Pete Buttigieg went on Shamad and said immigrants in America are very afraid and they're worried.

• 4:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 4:07Patrick Bet-David?

  And Shamad is like, uh, I'm an immigrant buddy, okay? And I'm not afraid. And it's the safest I've felt in a while, you gotta see that clip.

• 4:14Adam Sosnick?

  And he, and he added that he was here legally.

• 4:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and by the way, but you know what, you know what I do? Every time we do podcasts, we do have to give credit to people that sincerely want to make the world a better place. I want to give a big shout out to Adam Carolla because Adam Carolla very statistically said that women who don't receive SNAP are 65 pounds lighter than those who do.

• 4:37Tom Ellsworth?

  What a, what a.

• 4:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So for him, he is encouraging SNAP not being available, I think, for another month. So those who are on SNAP to lose 65 pounds.

• 4:46Tom Ellsworth?

  For the health of America.

• 4:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Hard, hard to, you know, yeah, I mean, it's. I swear to God, if anybody says anything about, you know, Adam Carolla.

• 4:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 4:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Not being noble when it comes onto these types of issues, you gotta give, you gotta give credit. So forget about Jenny Craig, it's called Adam Carolla. He's gotta come, he's gotta come out with a new drink called the Adam Carolla weight loss program. Uh, and the reason for that is today's November 1st and today's SNAP expires.

• 5:12Tom Ellsworth?

  October 31st.

• 5:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Today's October 31st, tomorrow's gonna be November 1st. And SNAP expires tomorrow. So folks, whatever you're doing, just be ready, okay? Could be mayhem tomorrow when it does expire and we're gonna see what's gonna be happening. But aside from that, you know, you, you probably don't want to be a guy named Andrew related to a royalty family. It was a bad day for you yesterday, King Charles removes Prince Andrew's royal titles, orders him to vacate the royal lodge. What? Why would he do that?

• 5:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they had him in the small castle and now he has to even leave there.

• 5:47Patrick Bet-David?

  The small castle. Can you imagine like, how dare they put him in a small castle?

• 5:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Kensington is like the big palace. They had him, they had him out back at the lodge and now they're like, can you just tell him? No, no, no, not even that, get out.

• 5:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Get out, yeah, because apparently he used to, uh, he used to go to this one place, this, it's not a, it's not called Rosario Island outside of Colombia, Cartagena. There's an, I don't know where he used to go, he used to go somewhere.

• 6:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Hey, we can't talk about that today. His new last name is Mountbatten. And the British memes have gone nuts overnight. Seriously. He will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten. It's like a name from the family from history. Mountbatten.

• 6:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Okay, that's great. That was a good one. Uh, Trump rates the meeting with Xi, not 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10.

• 6:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh oh.

• 6:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, that's extra credit.

• 6:35Tom Ellsworth?

  That's fantastic.

• 6:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And lowering tariffs, so we can talk about that. You ever dated a 12 out of 10? J D Vance discusses. Not easy. You sound like a guy that goes to an island.

• 6:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh yeah, what island were you with?

• 6:44Patrick Bet-David?

  J D Vance discusses. J D Vance discusses potential 2020 presidential ticket with Marco Rubio. Fed cuts rates again, but nobody is happy about it because it's like, it's like when the Dodgers win a game. They never win the right way. Okay, like, how do you not win in a better way? You're gonna give me a rate cut, give me a damn rate cut.

• 7:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on.

• 7:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Instead of doing this.

• 7:04Tom Ellsworth?

  They're taking half the week off getting their butts kicked right now.

• 7:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 7:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll be very objective about that.

• 7:09Patrick Bet-David?

  What Trump and Xi did and did not agree upon in the meeting. J D Vance, we already talked about that. Stefanik narrowly leading Hoco in New York governor race. And by the way, I agree with Tom. I think that's brought to you by Mamdani. Mamdani is helping it, helping it get a lead.

• 7:24Tom Ellsworth?

  A year from now, it's gonna be even worse because of his effect on her.

• 7:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Hers, here are six ways the government shutdown could get worse for Americans. Shutdown will cost $14 billion in economic losses, CBO analysis says. And then you got cash. Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe and explosive feud with Trump's counter terror chief. Uh, Comer calls for Biden pardons to be null and void over auto pin controversy. Oh my God.

• 7:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Come on.

• 7:52Patrick Bet-David?

  New York City candidate's mother said he's not an American at all. We should believe her. Uh, MTA boss Lieber slams Zoran Mamdani's free bus pledge. Panic selling hits New York as woke mayor sparks Sun Belt exodus. No, guys, stop it. No one's gonna leave. Come on, like, come on. Andrew even said, yeah, nobody's leaving New York. People are going. Yeah, no one's gonna leave.

• 8:15Tom Ellsworth?

  But he's talking about Gavin Newsom, the I'm gonna chase you tax.

• 8:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I get it, I get that.

• 8:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I'll find you.

• 8:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Russia tested Poseidon nuclear torpedo capable of destroying cities with radioactive tsunami. By the way, you know what this is with Putin's new thing they're testing? They're saying when they drop in the middle of the ocean. It creates 1,600 foot waves, not 16, not 160. 1,600 foot waves is what Tom was telling us yesterday. We're gonna definitely get into that. 14 story building. Yeah. Iran, no, that's not a 14 story building. That's a 140 story building, Tom. You said 1,600 feet. 14 story building is 140 feet. Oh, I'm sorry. Each floor is 10 feet. This is a little bit more than a quarter mile.

• 8:58Speaker 05

  If that happens in California, though, they're like, yeah, dude, they're gonna ride that thing. Oh, they're going, burning their skin, but they're gonna go.

• 9:03Patrick Bet-David?

  No, by the way, this is gonna cause a lot of people to get better at surfing. I know, yeah. Iran rebuilding ballistic, ballistic missile program with Chinese aid, define UN sanctions. Bill Gates has changed his mind, folks. What? Shifts tone on climate, criticizes doomsday view, drawn mixed reaction. Oh, weird. And then Trump's grateful for Bill Gates's pivot, declares victory over climate change hoax, okay? Fed cuts rates again, Nvidia is officially a $5 trillion company. And this whole thing with AWS, you know, the cloud stuff that happened to them? You know who it happened to now? Azure. Weird. Azure is Microsoft's cloud company, which is number two, and I have some thoughts on that. And then who's in, who's out?

• 9:48Patrick Bet-David?

  The rise of Barry Weiss at CBS, people getting fired left and right. And hypocrite Don Lemon, whose story is this? New York Post. Torched for saying Megyn Kelly looks trans. The left is using trans as an adult insult now. Two NBA legends call players soft over new techniques in separate interview. And that is Michael Jordan and AI, not AI like, you know, artificial intelligence. AI as in practice AI, right? I love Elon Musk. Ilhan Omar rips Chuck Schumer for not endorsing Mamdani in New York City mayoral election. Leftist losing slimy coward Gavin Newsom, portrayal of Charlie Kirk, the Sky News Australia.

• 10:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Gavin Newsom says he's moving on from appearing on Joe Rogan's podcast and Kamala Harris World Cup. Oh my God, there's just so many things with that. Anyways, having said that, let's get right into it. You know what is scary? Because today's Halloween, you know what is scary to most people? Planning. Most people are afraid of planning. Most people are afraid of sitting there and saying, "Oh, my God, you want me to plan for next year?" But you know who's not scared of planning? I want to introduce you to this guy who was looking for a business plan to fall out of the sky for him, and it didn't happen. But he made a decision to put on his calendar on December 12th to spend an entire day with somebody. Go ahead and play this clip. Watch this fellow here. Good-looking guy, minding his own business.

• 11:08Speaker 05

  The best-looking guy.

• 11:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, Vinny.

• 11:11Speaker 05

  What's up, Pat?

• 11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing?

• 11:13Speaker 05

  Waiting.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Waiting for what?

• 11:16Speaker 05

  Business plan.

• 11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  To come from sky.

• 11:18Speaker 05

  Also, people told me it works like...

• 11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not how it works.

• 11:20Speaker 05

  Work for Newton.

• 11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not how it works. On December 12th, I host an event called the Business Planning Workshop, where we go through this entire manual together on how to write a business plan based on 12 billion blocks. All you have to do is click on the link below, get registered. December 12th, we'll be together all day.

• 11:37Speaker 05

  All right, so can we go eat right now?

• 11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 11:38Speaker 05

  Because I've been here for four hours, waiting like an idiot. Idiot.

• 11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, he even made me look up the second time to see if it was going to fall or not, but it's not falling. For some of you guys that got big plans for 2026, December 12th, come join us. Rob, can we please put the link below everywhere so people can see it? For those of you guys that are listening to it in audio, it's bpw.bdavidconsulting.com. Join us December 12th together to write up your business plan for 2026. Having said that, there's some rough business planning going on for 2026. You know why?

• 12:12Speaker 05

  Why?

• 12:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Because SNAP is about to expire tomorrow, and people are losing their minds, but not Adam Carolla. Adam Carolla has advice for people, right?

• 12:22Speaker 05

  Good.

• 12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  So, what to know about SNAP as benefits set to expire?

• 12:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Amid government shutdown, so let's, let's read a couple of these things for some of the folks. Folks, if you're watching PBD Podcasts, I don't know if you're, how much of you are relying on SNAP. So maybe you don't know about it, so let's educate you a little bit. The federally funded Supplemental Nutritional Systems Program called SNAP has been increasingly searched topic of discussion as the government shutdown threatens to halt benefits for more than 42 million Americans who rely on it. If the shutdown, which is nearly one month mark, continues into November, SNAP benefits could seize as early as November 1st. What is SNAP, the program sometimes referred to as food stamps? Issues electronic benefits to millions of eligible low-income individuals and families. Those benefits can be used to purchase food. Who is eligible for SNAP? U.S. citizens must apply for SNAP in the state they currently live in

• 13:14Patrick Bet-David?

  and must meet requirements such as resource and income limits. This is ABC News's article, by the way. How do these, how do SNAP work? Benefits from financial assistance. What can SNAP buy and what can SNAP be used? Eligible households can use their benefits on fruit and vegetables, meat and poultry and fish, dairy products, breads and cereal, and other products such as snack, food, non-alcoholic beverages, and seed and plants that produce food for the household. And how Trump's mega bill changed SNAP. Remember, this is ABC. Earlier this year, President Trump signed this tax and spending mega bill into July 4th. Uh, into law on July 4th, changes were made to SNAP eligibility factors, including work requirements and non-citizen eligibility. Work requirements. Those working are paying for you not to work.

• 13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe for 90 days for you to recover from it, but not permanently rely on it, right? And non-citizen eligibility. The mega bill also slashed SNAP funding by an estimated $186 billion over 10 years. The mega bill further shuttered the SNAP ad, a federally funded grant program that helps people make the SNAP dollar stretch, teaches them how to cook healthy meals. Really? Okay, ABC. Teaching them how to cook healthy meals. Perfect. If SNAP is teaching people how to cook healthy meals, tell me why these numbers that Adam Carolla is sharing, how healthy is it for you to be 65-pound heavier? Go ahead, Rob. Hey, listen. Power up your play with Nintendo Switch 2

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• 15:40Speaker 04

  Snap's gonna run out, you know, and 40 million people are gonna go.

• 15:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Voice is the best. Forty million.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  Forty million. Okay, listen to me, everybody. This whole thing of like 40 million people are gonna go hungry. First off, those 40 million people average an extra 40 pounds on them over the average working American. If you took the average person that's on Snap getting free food and the average person that gets no free food from the government, the average female who gets no free food from the government is 146 pounds. The average Snap recipient is 211 pounds. So is it a food? I know. First off, we talk about going hungry.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  Nobody could benefit from a nice fast more than the Snap recipient.

• 16:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell me that's not noble, Tom. By the way, he says 40 pounds, but what did he say the numbers were, Rob? The person, the average person that takes Snap is 211 pounds. And those who take no Snap are 146 pounds. So we're starving the people that are not eating and we're feeding the people that are eating too much. Is that kind of what that means, Tom? Tell me about the math, because I'm, you know, just a regular guy here trying to figure this thing out. What's going on here, Tom?

• 16:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think Adam Carolla is making a point that it's not helping people. I think he's tongue-in-cheek making a point about, hey, it's not really helping the poor people that need it. People that are on it are just kind of, you know, doing nothing and just kind of gorging and becoming very, very large. We have to remember a couple of things. I'm not going to repeat any part of the story, Pat. I'm gonna run into something here. The Dems want Snap. To become part of UBI. It's a backdoor for UBI. They want to open more and more and more government programs toward universal basic income. So they want SNAP to be more people and they want people. And by the way, we haven't even got to the part where how many? It's not 40 million Americans.

• 17:41Tom Ellsworth?

  It's 40 million people in America. There are people on this, a huge percent of the people that are not citizens that are taking advantage of it. And there's frauds. I read last week, I was reading about SNAP and I read SNAP fraud stings. Do you know in Hawaii, they ran apparently? I was trying to find this again, but the commentary I was reading had a quick quip. And I hope this is correct, but it stands to reason. There are people that file for it and then sell the cards. They sell the cards for cash because they're below the line so they could qualify to get the card. But they're able to go to Costco and other places and get enough food for themselves. That makes sense? So then they sell the card. So, so guess what?

• 18:25Tom Ellsworth?

  It is sort of like universal basic income. The same thing they do with social security. They kept expanding social security. Oh, you're 11 years old and you're, and, and someone passed away. You can have the social security benefits, even though you weren't due to get that for 50 years. And so.

• 18:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, what you're talking about is Hawaii has a, has a hotline. That's 1-866-264-2925. That you call, this is what they reported this year. Hawaii's Department of Human Services issued a fraud alert on May 22nd, 2024. You're so right.

• 18:54Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what.

• 18:55Patrick Bet-David?

  About this of people taking advantage of EBT. And you know what ends up happening? They were issued a payment error rate on Hawaii SNAP program. The state was fined almost $11 million by the federal government because its error rate overpayment and underpayments for SNAP jumped 21% in 2223.

• 19:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there you go. People that really need it aren't getting it and the state's not, doesn't have a chief compliance officer, apparently. And then, and then the government's got to come down and fine one of the 50 children in these United States.

• 19:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So Adam, your thoughts on this.

• 19:26Adam Sosnick?

  Why is this such a big deal? Meaning like, I just sent Rob a thing over here. Let me actually use a little bit more of a Brooklyn accent over here. But we can't, can't let people go hungry. But what people are we talking about here? Because I saw this stat over here. I'm trying to do my Brooklyn accent. Robert, if you could show this, the types of people who are using the SNAP.

• 19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And Adam, just talk regularly.

• 19:44Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I'm sorry. They're Afghani.

• 19:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Your regular Jew is great.

• 19:49Speaker 05

  Make it crazier.

• 19:51Adam Sosnick?

  Vincent, I'm trying to do a character.

• 19:52Speaker 05

  Just go, I want to hear the story.

• 19:54Adam Sosnick?

  Look at these people, where are they coming from? They're definitely not my people, they're Afghani, they're Somali, they're Iraqi, the Haitians, I love the Haitians. They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. But are these people not American?

• 20:04Speaker 05

  Exactly, who are you?

• 20:05Adam Sosnick?

  Are these people not supposed to be here? Is this what's going on? Why are they getting, why are they getting the cat? One of my buddies right now is in the middle of texting me. He's an American. I'm not going to use his name, but he's like, "Bro, they're gonna cut me out of SNAP." I said, "Why the hell are you on SNAP?" You've been in this country, you're born and raised in America. You're a father with two kids, why are you even on? Why are so many people, have you ever been on SNAP?

• 20:28Speaker 05

  Cause he can, no, but, cause he can. No, cause he can.

• 20:31Adam Sosnick?

  SNAP is food stamps.

• 20:31Tom Ellsworth?

  If he's in Hawaii, someone's gonna call him.

• 20:33Speaker 05

  I love how they change the name to make it sound cool, "Oh, SNAP." It's food stamps.

• 20:37Adam Sosnick?

  It's food stamps. By the way, have you ever been on it?

• 20:39Speaker 05

  Never.

• 20:39Adam Sosnick?

  PBD, have you ever collected food stamps?

• 20:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Food stamps, yes.

• 20:42Adam Sosnick?

  You have, why did you collect it?

• 20:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, nineteen, I did not, my mother did. I was twelve, thirteen years old.

• 20:48Adam Sosnick?

  How long did she collect it for?

• 20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I couldn't even tell you.

• 20:50Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I, my first job, I worked for one year, then I got laid off. And they gave me unemployment, they gave me food stamps. It lasts for six months. Six months.

• 20:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 21:00Adam Sosnick?

  If you're a working and able-bodied person, should be able to get a job six months later. I mean, we've heard, we've all heard the stories of the welfare queen, just having kids and getting food stamps and like, you never, you get married to the government, you never need a man, you never have to work, you just, the government pays for you. How long is that sustainable? People talk about the, you know, entitlement programs, there's social security, Medicaid. Those are people, a lot of times, that can't work. You're old, you're sick, these are for able-bodied people? Just having kids?

• 21:28Speaker 05

  So the point is.

• 21:28Adam Sosnick?

  So my question is, why are so many people on this?

• 21:31Speaker 05

  Adam, cause they can, Adam, cause think about it, he said forty million, Pat, the actual number's forty-one to forty-two million. That's one out of eight Americans are on food stamps, okay? And that's, that's exactly what the left wants. They want you dependent on the government, okay? They don't want strong, independent citizens, they want votes, voters who rely on frigging government checks. Because guess what, Adam? That's how they held on to power, bro. When your food, your rent, your healthcare, all comes from the same people asking for the vote. Your freedom's already gone, bro. By the way, and then think about it during the Biden administration.

• 22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, while he's doing a thing, can you just pull up who's eligible for food stamps? What are the qualifications with the timeline?

• 22:09Speaker 05

  During the Biden administration, remember they were like, asking for voter ideas racist. Who are they pandering to? And then Gavin Newsom has made it illegal to even ask for identification in California. Okay, they flood the country with the illegals and those are their voters. And here's the truth, Pat, and I love that you said it in the beginning. If you're an able-bodied American citizen and you choose not to work, but you're living off the government, you shouldn't be able to vote.

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  You feel me?

• 22:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree. By the way, check this out. So here's a guy, WorldStar just posted this 19 hours ago. By the way, a lot of foul language, so brace for impact. If you got your kids around earmuffs.

• 22:43Speaker 05

  I got my wife, I got your kids.

• 22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Step away from this, but this guy is talking about folks who are getting food stamps. Go ahead and play the clip, Rob.

• 22:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Motherfuckers thinking it, but they ain't gonna say it. Listen here, I don't give a fuck about y'all losing y'all food stamps. I'm 25 with no motherfucking kids. I get up at 6 o'clock to go to work and at the end of the work, I go coach kids. It's just not hard for you motherfuckers out here with kids. It's hard for us too. And no fuck away do I want my hard earned tax money going towards you and your nine fucking kids. Just because you couldn't get off your fucking back and go get a job or tell a motherfucker to wear a condom. So no, I do not give a fuck because you're losing your benefits. Bitch, get off your ass, go get a job, do what the fuck you gotta do to raise your fucking kids.

• 23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I will tell you, he doesn't curse as much as Kamala does.

• 23:26Speaker 05

  Kamala's horrible.

• 23:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Kamala goes a little bit more, but obviously a part of that on what the point is. I was in the military, okay? And I remember when I was in the military, what would happen? On a Monday morning formation, they would come out and they would say the following. If your last four years of social security ends with a three, step to the front. And you're like, oh shit. You would step to the front. And then they, you know, they would say, Johnson, yours also ends with a three. Oh, come on, Sarge. Step to the front, step to the front. Okay. Alright, follow us. Then you go to the bathroom and you have to pee. And, and I don't know what they would do. Their head was like right here watching everything to make sure there was no, uh, uh... Like adding like bleach or stuff into your urine. Bleach, there was no bleach. Let me take a look, let me take a look.

• 24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they would take a look and you're peeing kinda like how he's doing. Take a look. And then, you would handle your business. You would handle your business and then afterwards they would come back and say, "You tested positive for weed, okay? You're getting demoted from an E4 to an E1. Oh, come on, yup, and you gotta do da-da-da-da, Article 15." Alright, and you go away. I come out, I'm talking to one of my friends. I said, this guy's a hardcore liberal at the time. I said, "I believe anybody who gets anything for free, welfare, food stamps, unemployment, anything, drug tested, at any time if we want to, to make sure you're living a straight up life,

• 24:52Patrick Bet-David?

  and it's a short-term period that you get..." "That's not fair. That's invading people's privacy." "Wait a minute, you're truly invading people's privacy and you're getting money from the people that are working, to give you the benefit. No, we're not doing this." So the point is, Obama back in the days when he was president, I think unemployment at one point, Rob, can you verify this? Under Obama, unemployment at one point went all the way up to 24 months. Uh, 24 months. Just check to see if this is accurate. Was that, was that his first? Yeah, there you go. During Obama's presidency, there were 24 consecutive months of jobs. But there was at one point that unemployment... Benefits, unemployment benefits. Yeah, so I just asked right now, Rob. I asked if you, uh, I asked, um,

• 25:34Patrick Bet-David?

  if there is, uh, if unemployment was up to 24 months and they would pay unemployment up to 24 months.

• 25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a long time, man. Yeah, that's what it was. That's... So unemployment would be... But this was during the Great Recession. I understand that, but it was a massive, like, guys could extend, extend, extend. Two years! And then all of a sudden they cut, and once they cut, everybody started looking for a job. Yeah. So what happens if all of a sudden you cut this? Hey, guess what? Go look for a job. This wasn't created for you to just stay on it. So anyways, we're gonna see what's gonna be happening with this. And then you agree with them not, like, I think if you're, if you can get a job...

• 26:07Speaker 05

  And you're not, and you're just getting money from the government, you're not gonna vote. It's called a free and fair election. If you're buying their, you're buying their vote. Stay on, we're gonna keep giving you money, you shouldn't be able to vote.

• 26:17Adam Sosnick?

  You can't stop people from voting, but I see what you're saying.

• 26:19Speaker 05

  I think that there needs to be some accountability if you're just sucking off the tea to big government.

• 26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  But wait a minute, let me ask you for what he's saying. If other taxpayers who are working hard are paying for you, you're voting to make a decision on behalf of who?

• 26:32Speaker 05

  Bingo.

• 26:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Other people that are funding you, there is no logic there.

• 26:35Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't own Apple, you're not a shareholder, you don't get to say anything about Apple. Well, how are you paying?

• 26:42Adam Sosnick?

  You're a shareholder of America because you're a citizen.

• 26:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Define that, define what that is.

• 26:46Adam Sosnick?

  A citizen of America.

• 26:46Speaker 05

  Are you contributing? Are you paying taxes? If you're sitting on your couch having babies?

• 26:49Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, there's half of people in America I don't think should have a vote whatsoever, but they have a vote. We can't dismantle the voting system if you're a legal citizen.

• 26:58Patrick Bet-David?

  The point is logically, in any company, okay? In any organization, whoever carries their little red wagon more than others gets a bigger vote.

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 27:10Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're sitting there, if we ran a country, that's the only way we would ever do it. If you don't, you don't. It's that simple. But obviously, right now, the more and more they're going, people are upset because, oh, Snap is teaching people how to build healthy food. Really? Why are they 60 pounds heavier then? Tell me how healthy, oh, you think they're following the, if they were following directions, they would go get a job right now. What do you mean, you know, any of the other stuff that they're talking about? Anyways, all right, let's get to the next one here. Next one I want to get into is Pete Buttigieg decides to go on Chamath and I think it's called the All In Podcast, right?

• 27:45Adam Sosnick?

  Of course it is, yes. Oh, look at that. Is this Halloween? What is he doing?

• 27:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so.

• 27:50Speaker 05

  He's pretending to be a real man.

• 27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a straight man. He goes on the podcast.

• 27:53Adam Sosnick?

  He's pretending to be a real man. Look at him, he's a real boy.

• 27:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, stop. No more, okay? He decides to go on the podcast and Pete Buttigieg brings up the concern with immigrants. And here's what he had to say, and here's what Chamath had to say. Go ahead, Rob. The worse it feels to be in this country, the better off Donald Trump is, whether he's running.

• 28:09Speaker 04

  For president or whether he is president and sending troops marching into the streets. Can I just say as the only immigrant right now on this podcast who immigrated here legally, I feel much safer and better under a Donald Trump presidency than I ever did under Biden presidency. Just want you to hear from my mouth for what that's worth. Do you feel safer about the fact that a Latino doctor crossing the street in Washington DC One instance. Is getting hassled or harassed because they're brown? I don't think that I've heard that now. Okay, so you're not aware of any case in which a US citizen who is. Me, me no. Like you're. Me no, but I will tell you, for example, after nine 11. You, you, you, wait, wait, you're on a podcast commenting about immigration. Surely you have some level of awareness.

• 28:51Speaker 04

  Let me tell you, after nine 11, for example, for years I had SSS on my boarding passes. And I was pulled over constantly and people probably thought that I was a Muslim hijacker. So I know what it feels like to be harassed and what I'm telling you categorically is I feel safer in this presidency than I have ever felt and I'm just letting you know that just is just my lived experience.

• 29:12Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, what a fair, sound, reasonable way of giving his argument on both sides. And Pete not knowing what to do with it. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 29:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, Pete, let's find a victim, Buttigieg, there we go again. Let's find a victim and exploit it. Find a crazy example or not a crazy example. What if that really happened and what if that happened under ICE? You compared about what's going on with the rest of it, but what Pete was there was he was scampering. He was waiting for them to kind of come a little bit the liberal side and they wouldn't do it. And he was just kind of stuck and stammering, which shows you people aren't buying what you're selling. And you don't have the facts to back it up because the back of the package says. Like cigarettes. You know what? That's what it is. No one's buying what the Democrats are selling.

• 30:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And when you pick it up and look at the package on the back, you get like a warning label like they put on cigarettes.

• 30:11Speaker 05

  And Tom, you think about it, doesn't this kind of coincide, Pat, with the previous story? They're pissed off, their base, their democratic leadership is because Trump, besides getting out illegals that are causing the crimes and they have records, they're getting rid of their votes. Bro, 500,000 people gone, a million people gone. Those people are all voting for the Democratic Party and they're going bye-bye. They're going bye-bye. And that rhetoric, you mean to tell me one story of one guy that's brown? And by the way, you know what SSS stands for? Secondary Security Screening Selection, meaning every boarding pass says, make sure you take that brown guy and search him again because of 9/11. Like, give me a break. Pete Buttigieg, by the way, Pat, there was multiple instances on this podcast where Chamath with his really comfortable sweater is just

• 30:53Speaker 05

  taking him apart, like fear porn by fear porn by fear porn. It was actually a really, really good podcast.

• 30:59Tom Ellsworth?

  They should call it the Mic Drop Podcast.

• 31:01Speaker 05

  It should have been.

• 31:02Adam Sosnick?

  It's cool to see Chamath basically being a defender of Trump. We all know a lot of the people in the Silicon Valley. In 2016 and 2020, we're not fans of Trump and they're not defending him. But now they're sort of his staunch allies, sort of the MAGA 2.0, which we talked about this. And then Pete Buttigieg sort of gives this anecdotal, yeah, you didn't hear about this one guy this one time? It's like, okay, cool. I will say this, you know, to maybe defend Buttigieg for a second. Chamath and the all-in guys, they're based in where? Silicon Valley?

• 31:29Tom Ellsworth?

  They're in San Fran.

• 31:30Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so I don't know what effect they're having from the Donald Trump effect. If there's someone you need to look at, it would be Gavin Newsom, your governor, that's based in Sacramento out there. So if any issues you're dealing with in San Francisco or Northern California, that's all downstream of what Gavin Newsom is doing. If you're feeling the national effect of what, if you're going to DC, if you're going to certain towns where Trump is sending the National Guard, I get it, you probably feel safer there. But any issues you have are not necessarily a Trump or Biden thing, it's a Gavin Newsom thing. I'd love to hear his comments on what Gavin Newsom has done in the state of California.

• 32:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, to talk about Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom has moved on from Joe Rogan, Rob. I don't know if you heard or not.

• 32:06Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, really?

• 32:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So all this time he was talking about, he's, Joe is afraid of me. You know, we tough guy, all this stuff. He has officially decided to move on from Joe Rogan. Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:16Tom Ellsworth?

  He hasn't, for years and years, he's been attacking me and it's one way and he won't have me on. He's consistently not had me on. By the way, I'm moving on. I have no interest. You're done with him? Joe Rogan's the Facebook of podcasting. He was sitting across one of the The brightest minds in podcasting right now. The guy was in the mic and there are a lot of people at the mic doing extraordinary things.

• 32:37Adam Sosnick?

  What's he talking about? He's talking about Andrew Schultz.

• 32:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Pretty big audience still.

• 32:40Adam Sosnick?

  He's talking about Andrew Schultz. What do you mean he's talking about Schultz? He even says that he's talking about Andrew Schultz, he was sitting across from him.

• 32:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Enough confidence, I didn't go there.

• 32:48Adam Sosnick?

  He was gonna say B words.

• 32:49Tom Ellsworth?

  To have me on. Oh, you've called him a chicken. But he's been attacking for, no, but here's the thing. These guys, they all have something in common. It's one way, they attack, they belittle, they demean, they take things out of context. But this is a serious thing.

• 33:02Adam Sosnick?

  But enough about you.

• 33:03Tom Ellsworth?

  And so often we just sit back and go, oh God, I really would love to go on. Oh, if Kamala Harris just went on Joe Rogan, she would have won. It's not, it's so much deeper than that. And the unwillingness for a guy like that to even have the common courtesy to attack someone and not have the DC. Say, you know what, why don't you have a chance to come on? Let's have a civil dialogue. I've watched you on podcasts with like Sean Ryan, who's a close buddy of his. He had the curse on me for four hours. Right. Sean Hannity, folks like that. And so if I can go on Sean Ryan and Sean Hannity, what are you worried about? What are you, Joe, you're gonna cook me or I'm gonna cook myself?

• 33:39Adam Sosnick?

  This is what's called spiteful ex-girlfriend energy. You ever break up with a girl and she just completely just like, oh, I hate him so much. He's the worst. I would never get back with him. And then you call her and she's like, hey, what's up, honey? You're telling me if Joe Rogan doesn't call Gavin Newsom or Jamie, his producer, and goes, hey, we'd like to have you on. You think Gavin Newsom is gonna say no?

• 33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to Tom. Go ahead, Tom. What do you think about this?

• 34:00Tom Ellsworth?

  What I think about this is Gavin Newsom is trying to use reverse psychology on Rogan. He was trying to say, oh, well, you know, he's been spiting me and he's, you called him a chicken. That's what Alex said to him. And he's trying to use the reverse psychology. Gavin Newsom is desperate, desperate, desperate to get on the Joe Rogan podcast and on other podcasts. Cause they want to roll those clips together when it's time for all the campaign ads. So they can look like man of the people connected to everybody. That's the play here. There is a playbook that goes with the 2028 campaign that has launched a year and a half ago with Gavin Newsom. When he got.

• 34:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Together and made sure that he could bait and drag Ron DeSantis into a second tier channel ran their their mini debate. Remember that? And so what's he doing there? This is a guy Gavin Newsom who has a playbook for media. He knows exactly what he wants to do. And he's trying to belittle bait and and tug on Joe Rogan's team to get himself on there. But you know what? They're not having it. They're not interested.

• 35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And and look, at the end of the day, when he's doing this, I think a part of this is the following. He wants to say when he runs for president, I asked to go there. I'm not like Kamala. I'm not afraid. I'm not this. I even told him and he said he's not going to have me on. I'm not afraid of doing this. This other stuff. Now, on the other side, you know, he's a leading candidate for the Democratic Party for president 2028. The previous one Kamala, here's what she just did. She sat down with yesterday. By the way, I really don't like doing Kamala clips, not not Jon Stewart. Go to the other one first, Rob. Is the one with the world class spin or misdirection or whatever.

• 35:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Love this one.

• 35:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I really don't like putting clips of her, not because because I feel bad for the audience.

• 35:54Tom Ellsworth?

  I get it.

• 35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Because because it truly is so hard to. I can listen to Newsom. So I'm not insulting. I can listen to Newsom. I can listen to Obama. I can listen. I can. It is so difficult to listen to her. Because she just just folks.

• 36:10Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're eating.

• 36:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Practice your mental toughness and emotional toughness for the next minute and a half. Go ahead, Rob. Rob, can you posit? Does he get into it fairly quickly? Because I don't want to play the whole thing. You know what I'm saying? Where she stops him? Boom, boom, boom. And then she. You're right. You're right. So go all the way to the beginning. It's just the first minute because it's a two minute 47. I don't want to go through the whole thing. Watch this, folks.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  Wasn't Joe Biden then to put it on him? Wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties?

• 36:39Speaker 04

  A nearly impossible task. I ran against Donald Trump for president. And Donald Trump ran on a platform that was, in large part, I believe, misrepresenting his intentions to the American people.

• 36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Hasn't answered the question yet.

• 36:58Speaker 04

  I do believe that there are a fair number of people that voted for Donald Trump, who believed him when he told them that his first priority on day one is going to be to bring down prices. And he didn't. And you combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what was at play in terms of massive amounts of misinformation. Now, forgive me. And a truncated calendar in terms of the clock. I want to interrupt you because that is a world-class pivot. But it is not the question that I asked you.

• 37:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She's challenged.

• 37:34Speaker 04

  Which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that did to you. The question is about Joe Biden. Are you still reluctant to criticize the former president? In what regard, please? Well, just in terms of that question. So you went on. What exactly would you like to ask?

• 37:50Patrick Bet-David?

  She just answered.

• 37:51Speaker 04

  If you don't mind. Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own frailties in that position, that put you in the position that made it almost impossible to win that race? He was not frail as president of the United States. But he had frailties. We all saw the debate.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to be president of the United States.

• 38:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause right here.

• 38:15Speaker 04

  And I've never.

• 38:15Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so she said this to her. The lady holds her accountable. But she goes on Jon Stewart. This is what Jon Stewart's like, what are you doing? And Jon Stewart is probably voted for her and tried to help her out. Watch this here.

• 38:28Speaker 04

  I believe he was fully competent to serve.

• 38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you really?

• 38:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  That surprises me, actually.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  No, I do. But there's a distinction to be made between running for president and being president.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  What's the distinction?

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Well, being a candidate for president of the United States is about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes thrown at you every step you take.

• 38:57Speaker 03

  That sounds lovely.

• 38:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's more than a notion.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Get involved in public service, ladies and gentlemen.

• 39:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Hello.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  And to be the seated president, the sitting president, while doing that.

• 39:08Speaker 05

  And then you want to ask, and then you want to ask why she didn't do all those podcasts? Do you know why they shielded her?

• 39:13Speaker 03

  She can't do it.

• 39:13Speaker 05

  She cannot do it, and we bet like-

• 39:15Speaker 03

  She's horrible.

• 39:16Speaker 05

  She's horrible, and that's why they kept Biden in the basement as well. But they're either incompetent, or they're incapable. You know what I mean? Biden, and I just love-

• 39:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And two weeks ago, she was upset with Biden.

• 39:26Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly. It's unbelievable, but none of them, Karine Jean-Pierre, bother, they just released the intel committee pad. They released a bunch of depositions where even Karine Jean-Pierre, all of them are lying. They're all sitting there going, "No, I didn't, I didn't see it." Pat, do you mind if I go really quick back to Gavin Newsom? And I know we make fun of him, but I go after him a lot. We just made a sketch-

• 39:47Tom Ellsworth?

  We don't make fun of him, we point out discrepancies in facts and reality.

• 39:50Speaker 05

  I make fun of him, especially with his hands, because he lies. But I love that you said that too, Tom. You guys have to understand-

• 39:55Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you make fun of that, but that's pretty accurate.

• 39:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, he's the frontrunner, guys. He's the frontrunner for 2028. Let's not lie about it. And you guys see what's happening with New York. The left is just voting, they'll vote for anybody that's not going to be the Republican. But I'm telling you, guys, the moment they come in, they're going to destroy the country. And I'm not fearing people, I'm just letting you know, think about, ask Gavin Newsom, and nobody's asked him, Pat. The moment you get in, what are you going to do with the border? They're going to open up the border, because that's the same guy. And a couple of days ago, he did something, I'm pretty sure you saw this, Pat, that infuriated me. And it disgusted me to a whole different level. He betrayed Charlie Kirk. And I don't know, Adam, did you see this? Remember, you remember when he had him on his podcast? And Charlie actually went to this guy's podcast, sat down, sat down with technically a little-

• 40:40Adam Sosnick?

  It might have been Gavin Newsom's first podcast.

• 40:43Speaker 05

  First podcast, that was his like kickoff podcast and Charlie agreed, sat there, sat with you know, quote unquote, "the enemy." He doesn't agree with any of his values, a guy who clearly doesn't have, Gavin does not have God in his life. You know, obviously Charlie did, God rest his soul, and he still showed up. And this is, this is the admission of how amazed Gavin's son was, and he was such a fan. Play this because I want to show the, what he just said a couple of days ago. Go ahead, Rob.

• 41:06Adam Sosnick?

  Last night, trying to put my son to bed, he's like, "No dad, I just, what time, what time's Charlie gonna be here? What time?" And I'm like, "Dude, you're in school tomorrow, he's 13." He's like, "No, no, this morning, wakes up at 6:00 AM, then he's like, "I'm coming." I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did you let him take off school? No, he did, of course not, he's not here for a good rea- but the point is the point- You canceled school for like two years, once one- Such a good line. Which is, you are making a damn- Thank you, I'm kidding.

• 41:34Speaker 05

  I'm making a, okay, now you guys hear that. Now, cut to Monday, Gavin's on CNN, and listen to what he says about his son and Charlie Kirk. Look at this, look at this turnaround.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  That's your son, obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. What was the conversation like between you and your son after Charlie Kirk was assassinated?

• 41:53Adam Sosnick?

  He called me, I don't know how he got a phone, but he called me from school that day, really alarmed. And all his friends were around the phone that wanted to meet us about express or understand what was going on. He wanted to know if he was dead. He wasn't a fan of him as much as he was familiar with him.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  Like, like, is it, how unbelievable. Your son Gavin wakes up and is ready to go at 6:00 AM, begging to go meet the guy and hang out with him, and then now you play this whole, this is why he's a lying freaking sociopath. It drives me crazy how deceitful he is, and he's gonna be the frontrunner. So I, every chance I get to point out his lying and his, his character, I'm gonna do it. Horrible. How, Tom, do you agree with that? Like, he was just familiar with him?

• 42:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with one thing, two things. I think the American voters can be swayed. And I think if you look at AOC, you look at Gavin Newsom, they're very savvy and they're capable of swaying a lot of voters.

• 42:48Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 42:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe that. I also believe number two, that the mashup of the flip flops are going to be magnificent campaign ads, and they're gonna have to find a way to explain them. And if they're fair debates, and they ask real questions, like the journalist, and I call her a journalist from the UK, was interviewing and asking a question, doing journalistic research, asking a direct question, and saying, "That's a world-class pivot, I asked you this question." And then getting Kamala to kinda get a little sparky there, because she didn't want to answer it. That is what people need to see.

• 43:28Tom Ellsworth?

  So, I hope that the flip flops and the mashups that we're gonna see in the election, I hope it's real. But these people, these people are slick, and you're looking at a guy who's a very slick campaigner. At the midst of it all, you know, somebody needs to sit down with him and just call it back and forth, call balls and strikes, and see what this guy says in a fair-minded, you know, fair-minded situation. But he'll be all spun up, ready to turn this into fights.

• 43:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, they're night and day, Kamala and Gavin. Kamala Harris reminds me of the scene from Billy Madison, I don't know if you have that, Rob, where they're doing the debate, and the moderator, after Billy Madison gives his answer, is like, "Mr. Madison, what you said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling and coherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the room is now dumber for having listened to it." That's when you listen to Kamala. You're just like, "Did I get dumber? What just happened here? What was the whole time and space?"

• 44:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, God.

• 44:34Adam Sosnick?

  You're just, you're sitting there, and she's rambling, even PBD has to tell you to wear earmuffs before you get on. Gavin is the exact opposite. As skilled as a politician as it gets. And it's slimy, you feel like you need to take a shower, yet people are gonna vote for it, and it's authentic, yet it's fake. Then he's gonna put on his little, he is so skilled. If anyone thinks that Gavin Newsom is not gonna be a realistic opportunity to be the president, the president of the United States, you get another thing coming. He's completely capable and he's completely fake.

• 45:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, I gotta correct myself. Sarah Ferguson from ABC's International Channel 730, she's Australian, not British. I'm just a little...

• 45:19Adam Sosnick?

  Tom? Very fact-checked. It's gonna be okay, man.

• 45:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, don't ever make a mistake like that again.

• 45:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I don't know, with what's going on with the royalty, maybe Sarah Ferguson...

• 45:27Adam Sosnick?

  You want me to cancel him? I'll do it, I'll make a call.

• 45:30Tom Ellsworth?

  But sorry, Sarah, you're from Australia, always have that.

• 45:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just get into it, Tom. Sarah's gonna text you right afterwards and receive the apology. Okay, so Trump-China, Trump rates meeting with China, Xi, 12 out of 10. Guys, it was that good on the meeting that took place, which was great, okay? The fact that they're having a meeting is incredible. Rob, can you go to the meeting when they're shaking hands and they're first, you know, the... The, is this it, the first time? Okay, this is when they just visited each other. I think this is two days ago. Go ahead, Rob, if you can play that clip. Go ahead.

• 46:11Speaker 05

  Look at that grin. It's getting tighter.

• 46:19Speaker 03

  It's hurting my hand. And we're gonna have a very successful meeting, I have no doubt.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  But he's a very tough negotiator. That's not good.

• 46:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what look he's giving?

• 46:37Patrick Bet-David?

  He's giving or Trump? She, she is giving a look like, oh my god, another American. Because you have to realize, for them, they're not, they don't, they're not a flattery community. Oh, no. They're not gonna be like, honey, you did such a good job. Straight A's, or you're fired as my son. Type of an environment, right? Like the, and then afterwards, he's on Air Force One, the famous office, I don't know why he always does this meeting. Right in that door. Right by that door. Go ahead, Rob. He's asked about how the meeting went. Go ahead. I think we've discussed mostly what, what we said, pretty comprehensive. We're gonna issue a statement on some of the details. But overall, I guess on the scale of from zero to 10, with 10 being the best, I would say the meeting was a 12.

• 47:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it was a 12. I think very importantly, you know, just the whole relationship is very, very important. And I think it was very good. Especially coming on the heels of this. Tom?

• 47:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think what Trump is trying to do is get the deal done. And China is still gonna be thinking long term. And on the other side of life, you have economy, and then you've got defense, and you've got little leaks coming out about China gonna help Iran or something. So you have those little leaks coming out. So you see China's still playing this 3D chess, but I think the president made great progress economically. You had Besen, over the week before, I believe they were in Malaysia, wherever it was. They were not in China, with the Chinese diplomats representing the economy. And I think that there's tremendous momentum that's, that's coming along here.

• 48:16Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think we're about to hear about a giant soybean deal, where China's gonna buy a lot of soybean from US farmers. So I, I think there's multi-points on this that are really good, that are gonna move forward. And it's interesting, he says, look, now that we've met, now that we have some agreements, I'll take the, I'll take the tariffs back. Very simple. I'm not here to hurt you. I'm here to negotiate. And I like what we're hearing, but remember, China plays the long game. And so what you you get over here, you got to keep an eye on them over there.

• 48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so the decision was to lower the Chinese exports from fifty seven or forty seven percent, which Trump said was because of Xi's commitment to decrease the flow of fentanyl. And on the on the topic of above that, when they talk about the things that they agreed on this and didn't agree on. This is the NBC News story. Fentanyl, Trump agreed, lowered the fentanyl tariffs on China.

• 49:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Ten to twenty percent. Trump lowered fentanyl tariffs on China, ten to twenty percent. Effective immediately. What? Ten from twenty percent, effective immediately. Marking total tariffs forty seven to fifty seven. He trusts Xi will work very hard to stop fentanyl precursors. I think you're going to see a big difference. He said about the meeting with China, rare earth minerals, which is what just Tom talked about. China imposed exports controls on rare earth for magnets and turbines and EVs. As a trade chip, Trump and Xi agreed to a one-year repriv, likely routinely extended. All of a rare earth has been settled, and that's for the world. So that's one. Soybeans, what Tom just talked about. Ukraine, US and China will work together on Ukraine war. Ukraine came up very strongly. We talked about it for a long time.

• 49:56Patrick Bet-David?

  We're both going to work together to see if we can get something done. And then Nvidia, no discussion of relaxing blackwell chip export curves. We're not talking about blackwell chips. Trump said US allows limited H20 GPU exports to China. So let me tell you what I think is going on here.

• 50:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you've probably heard when Trump makes a comment about Rubio. Rubio's got two big jobs right now. One of the jobs he's got is the job of Henry Kissinger. Okay, and you'll hear Trump will say, I believe Rubio is better than Henry Kissinger by the time he's going to be done because Henry Kissinger used to leak. He was known as a leaker. He was known as a, you didn't hear that when he said? Rob, do you have that clip when he, you remember this clip I'm talking about, Rob?

• 50:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Like, tell everybody everything?

• 50:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So he calls. Go ahead, Tom.

• 50:46Tom Ellsworth?

  He had two key contacts that we found out after he passed away with the New York Times. And he was a professional leaker and it was, he was a real son of a bitch on that end. He may have been a negotiator or a good secretary of state. But the people in Washington, you tell a lot of people say there was another part of Henry Kissinger that was all about himself. And he would leak things left and right.

• 51:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Trump calls him a leaker. I think this is it, yeah. Uh, is it called, there you go, exactly. This is a play the clip? This is him talking about Rubio.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  We call it, we need that brain on occasion. We gotta get Jared in here. We gotta get a certain group of people, but. Steve started this all by himself. I call him Henry Kissinger, who doesn't leak.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  Henry is a big leaker. He leaked, he leaked.

• 51:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So, he's complimentary with, with coffee. He said similar things about Rubio as well. Uh, and so, when you go back and think about what Kissinger did, Kissinger followed a guy. Whose name was Bismarck. Bismarck was the previous.

• 51:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Otto von Bismarck?

• 51:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Otto von Bismarck, previous chancellor of Germany.

• 51:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 51:51Patrick Bet-David?

  The Second Reich, which sounds bad, but it's the, you know. And so in the 1800s.

• 51:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 51:56Patrick Bet-David?

  He was dealing with, you know, a handful of countries that he was always having issues with. And he was never the biggest. So you're dealing with Austria, you're dealing with Hungary, you're dealing with France, you're dealing with Italy, you're dealing with Russia. And he had this, you know, triangular diplomacy that he would follow to have relationship. You, you always, you always want, if you're the strongest, which America is, China's second, third is Russia. Triangular diplomacy is befriend this guy to eliminate this guy. Okay? So, meaning Trump tried really hard to get good with Putin. To build that relationship with Putin, but Putin didn't play ball with him. So then what does Trump do?

• 52:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If you take Trump, US, Russia, and Ukraine, who would that be in triangular diplomacy? Who should he get closer to? If it's US, Russia, and Ukraine, who should he team up against the other? It's US and Ukraine against Russia.

• 52:54Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 52:54Patrick Bet-David?

  But in US-China-Russia, it's who? It's US and Russia against China. But Putin's not playing ball. So Putin is not playing ball, now he's gonna go, "Okay, you wanna do this? Guess what, I'm gonna go and develop a stronger relationship with China." And now he's doing this with China, and he's forcing everybody to leave Putin on an island. The one question that you all often get asked is the following. Why did Nixon get off the gold standard?

• 53:18Adam Sosnick?

  Why?

• 53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did Nixon get off the gold standard? Do you realize since 1971, every single thing can be positioned back to 1971, when we got off the gold standard, everything. That just blew up, everything blew up since 1971. But the reason why they did that at that time, and Nixon went and opened up China, there's only one reason why they went and opened up China. In 1970, Rob, can you type up, who were the top 10 biggest GDPs in the world in 1970? Adam, Vinnie? Who were the top 10 biggest GDPs in the world in 1970?

• 53:50Adam Sosnick?

  In 1970, US was number one.

• 53:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, who's two?

• 53:52Adam Sosnick?

  I would put, um, Japan up there. I would put, uh...

• 53:57Speaker 05

  Russia? For back then? They're still up there. Top 10?

• 54:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, they'd be in the top 10, I'm sure.

• 54:03Patrick Bet-David?

  US was one, Japan was two. Look at that, Vinnie. Germany, France, UK, Italy, Canada.

• 54:10Adam Sosnick?

  All the G7 countries.

• 54:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Canada was bigger than China.

• 54:13Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 54:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about that. Canada's bigger than China. Go a little bit higher, Rob. Go a little bit higher. There's one country that's not on there, though. USSR, okay? USSR. And by the way, USSR was... So he's sitting there wondering, you know, what's going on with Russia? And a communist regime moving. Nixon decides to go out there and team up with who? Little China.

• 54:37Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 54:38Patrick Bet-David?

  China had the biggest military, but they didn't have the biggest GDP. They go and help China to equalize who? Russia.

• 54:45Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 54:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And what ends up happening? They create the enemy.

• 54:49Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 54:49Patrick Bet-David?

  China got bigger than Russia. And China's where it's at today. So, to me, Trump right now is trying to do triangular diplomacy.

• 54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And the better person that would have been a better partner for him to go against China would have been Putin, but Putin's not playing ball. In my opinion, it would have been better for us to be closer to Russia to hold China accountable than the other way around. And it didn't work. And you know, you don't want everybody to be getting along and you also don't want to have a good relationship with both of the parties because you can't hold the other one accountable. Everybody's ambitious. Everybody's motivated, but he's going through a challenge right now. He's really, the entire time while he's talking, guess who he's talking to? Guess, guess who he knows is watching everything he's doing, he's watching Putin. And you know what Putin does? When he sees this taking place, here's what Putin does. Oh, really? Okay, no problem. Let me drop some crazy ass news, Mr. Trump.

• 55:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 55:43Patrick Bet-David?

  So what does he do? Here's what Putin does. Putin comes out and drops what news? Here's the news, and Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. Putin drops the news saying

• 55:55Patrick Bet-David?

  that Russia is officially testing Poseidon nuclear torpedo capable of destroying cities with radioactive tsunamis. This is New York Post, just two days ago. Rob, is this the clip of what they're testing?

• 56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, yeah, it's an animation of what the...

• 56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this is not what they're testing. This is what they have, just to show you what's capable of doing. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 57:21Speaker 05

  The music isn't helping.

• 57:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. You, I'm sure you're reading that, Vinny.

• 57:27Speaker 05

  I got you, I got you, I got you.

• 57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 57:29Speaker 05

  Everybody's going to die, you're going to die.

• 57:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 57:33Speaker 05

  Okay, missile launch, submarine.

• 57:37Patrick Bet-David?

  So, that guy goes, and then look what this guy does. He just dropped this two days ago.

• 57:44Speaker 05

  Putin put this up.

• 57:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you showing this to the world?

• 57:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, why do you want the world to know this is your capability? Why?

• 57:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay? Great music.

• 57:58Speaker 05

  Killing, killing people.

• 58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 58:00Speaker 05

  Those are our aircraft carriers, that, that's the design.

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  What else is it capable of doing? Bone? Look at that.

• 58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  And I love how he puts some music, hip hop music.

• 58:13Speaker 05

  To make it softer, and look at that.

• 58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  1600 foot waves.

• 58:21Speaker 05

  Hope Trump's team makes a video going back.

• 58:23Patrick Bet-David?

  200 meters is what, Tom? 200 meters, each meter is three feet. So 200 meters, so a little over, so six, six, let me just read this to you to see what they're doing. So why is, why is Putin doing this? Why is Putin doing this? What, what's he trying to say? What's he trying to tell people? Okay, so Putin drops that, okay, on a nuclear Poseidon capable of leveling coastal cities with 1600 foot high radioactive tsunamis. 1600 feet is roughly 160 story building. Coming at you. And while he's doing this, not much is publicly known about Poseidon. Reports estimate that the weapon is capable of carrying two mega ton warhead or more than 150 times the power of a bomb.

• 59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The US dropped on Hiroshima, Vinny, 150 times stronger than what we dropped in Hiroshima in 1945. They are designed to trigger radioactive tsunamis of up to 1600 feet from hundreds of miles away, according to Russia state media. That's what he announces. And what does President Trump come out and say all of a sudden?

• 59:25Speaker 05

  What?

• 59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what does President Trump come out and say all of a sudden?

• 59:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Back to testing, we're gonna do a whole lot of testing. We got, we got great, great nuclear program, wonderful smart nuclear scientists, that's wonderful, best in the world, some of them, my god, some of these wonderful people are great.

• 59:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this the time, Rob? This is what he says. We have more nuclear weapons than anybody. We don't do testing. We've halted it years, many years ago. But with others doing testing, I think it's appropriate that we do also. Okay, so when was the meeting with Xi?

• 1:00:00Adam Sosnick?

  Just this week.

• 1:00:02Patrick Bet-David?

  But what day? What day? Give me the, what day was it, Rob? When was the meeting with Xi?

• 1:00:07Adam Sosnick?

  Thursday was two days ago.

• 1:00:08Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought it was Wednesday? Wednesday? I think Wednesday. Okay, and when?

• 1:00:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Our Wednesday, right?

• 1:00:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right, our Wednesday, October 30th, which is yesterday.

• 1:00:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:00:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, do you know, do you know when Putin announced this testing? When? Do you know when? Thursday afterwards. No, no, a day before.

• 1:00:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh!

• 1:00:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is like, hey, right before your meeting.

• 1:00:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, I got it.

• 1:00:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I want you to know what we have that we got going on, okay? So Tom, your thoughts, okay, with everything that's going on right now with Russia, China, how do you think this is being managed? And who and what country you think is preventing the negotiation from going smoother?

• 1:00:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, well, first of all, Russians interfering here, and Russia's doing it deliberately. Uh, you had China in the days leading up to the South Korea summit where Trump and Xi met, live 101, and by the way, never mind, there was a whole bunch of South Korea positive announcements that were made, but Russia is the one that's meddling here. Russia is putting it out there because they know that we are with Ukraine this week and trying to get the war stopped there, and we know that Russian stuff and Chinese stuff have made it to Iran, and that's annoying to us trying to get peace in the Middle East

• 1:01:24Tom Ellsworth?

  because Iran turns around and repurposes that stuff in their support of anything that begins with H. And so Russia making an announcement ahead of time is, it's like, let's say you got, Vinny, let's say you got divorced, you were, and you were a divorced person. Sorry to hear that. And your wedding's gonna be on Saturday. Okay. And your ex-wife who's giving you complete crap about the custody of the kids.

• 1:01:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I met her.

• 1:01:49Tom Ellsworth?

  On Friday, on Friday, she makes a big announcement, "I'm pregnant with twins," and emails it to everybody.

• 1:01:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Great.

• 1:01:57Tom Ellsworth?

  So you're going to your wedding. And you got your two little girls there with you, custody for the weekend, they're gonna be in your wedding. And then people start asking them, oh, you're gonna have little sisters, isn't that great? That's what Russia's doing, they're throwing announcements down.

• 1:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I honestly didn't get any of that story.

• 1:02:12Speaker 05

  I, I, I'm.

• 1:02:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point, Tom?

• 1:02:14Speaker 05

  First of all, my ex would do something like that, so he's right, he's right.

• 1:02:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Testing announcement a day before.

• 1:02:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So whose kids are the twins? That's what I want to know.

• 1:02:22Speaker 05

  I already have two kids, but she's lying and saying that even if it's not.

• 1:02:26Adam Sosnick?

  You never called them, you didn't pay the child support.

• 1:02:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You need a DNA test.

• 1:02:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I'm sorry.

• 1:02:30Speaker 05

  Little Suzie and little Deborah.

• 1:02:33Adam Sosnick?

  Eighteen years, and on the eighteenth birthday you found it wasn't his.

• 1:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm here talking about triangular diplomacy, Tom's talking about twins diplomacy.

• 1:02:40Speaker 05

  I know, what?

• 1:02:41Patrick Bet-David?

  But go ahead, Tom.

• 1:02:42Tom Ellsworth?

  No, it's, so think, think about it, think about it this way. The US does have a relationship with Russia.

• 1:02:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:49Tom Ellsworth?

  We're trying to negotiate through it, we're trying to make that a better relationship, we're trying to end the Ukraine war.

• 1:02:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:02:54Tom Ellsworth?

  At the same time, Russia's got this gas and energy deal that they've tried to do with both India and China, mostly China. And so in the midst of us getting together with China, Putin doesn't want us to have any sort of the ice thaw on the relationship with China, none whatsoever. So he's happy to make, oh, our Poseidon torpedo could wreak havoc and everything on there. And Trump just says in Air Force One, well, if other people are gonna go back to testing and announcing things, maybe we should go back to testing too. By the way, we have more nukes than anybody in the world.

• 1:03:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I actually love that.

• 1:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And we have more technology.

• 1:03:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I love that.

• 1:03:32Tom Ellsworth?

  So, okay, well, if that's where it's gonna be, that's where it's gonna be.

• 1:03:35Adam Sosnick?

  Very gangster.

• 1:03:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, thoughts?

• 1:03:38Adam Sosnick?

  A couple of things here, number one, you talked about Henry Kissinger, the whole thing that Henry Kissinger did was he practiced something called realpolitik. He wasn't, it wasn't an ideologue, he was basically dealing with how can we neutralize the issue that is now the. Cold War, there was at the height of the Cold War, I think it was when Henry Kissinger was at the height of his power. And in geopolitics, you needed to neutralize Russia by awarding China these benefits of working with America and opening up trade. And that was part of the reason the Nixon gold standard appeasement to China and using China as a counterbalance to Russia. Now, it's not even close. I mean, if you look at the most powerful countries in the world, Rob, I sent you a couple different links. It's USA number one, China number two.

• 1:04:22Adam Sosnick?

  Russia is as strong as Singapore, apparently, in this graph right here, if you scroll up. Russia is a big, slow-moving nation.

• 1:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Zoom in a little bit, and Ray Dalio ranked these guys?

• 1:04:33Adam Sosnick?

  Is this Ray Dalio?

• 1:04:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it says Ray Dalio ranked the strength of nations by assessing metrics like GDP, world trade, education, military strength. So it's not just military strength. This is based on overall. So if it's military strength, Rob, if you can go to it, it's something else. But let me just look at this if you don't mind. Let me just look at this if you don't mind. So he put US first. He is such a big pro-China guy, continues to...

• 1:04:55Adam Sosnick?

  Is he really?

• 1:04:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, from the first meeting we had, it's been all pro-China. Eurozone, he put three: Germany, Japan, South Korea. India, he put seventh. Interesting to put India seventh. UK, France, Russia, he put, okay, Singapore, Australia. Yeah, I mean, if he's talking pure economy...

• 1:05:13Adam Sosnick?

  Also, what is it, Rob, if we can highlight this, what is the blue versus the white component? It's like what your capacity is?

• 1:05:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Total strength.

• 1:05:20Adam Sosnick?

  Total strength, per capita strength, gotcha. So what's interesting about this is if you could scroll down, I mean, what, who is the most allied with US and China? If you just want to go real quick, the Eurozone is with US. Hold on, Rob, you're going a little too fast, my friend. Germany's with US, Japan's with US, South Korea's with US, India mostly with the US, mostly.

• 1:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifty-fifty.

• 1:05:39Adam Sosnick?

  UK, what do you mean fifty-fifty? Oh, India?

• 1:05:41Patrick Bet-David?

  BRICS, are you like...

• 1:05:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, yeah, but they're more aligned with US than they are with China. Okay, you have Russia, we'll throw that to China. You got Singapore, I would throw that in the US category. Australia, Canada, Turkey, sort of in the NATO, you know, they're definitely...

• 1:05:58Adam Sosnick?

  Running opposite with it, but the point is this, the most powerful countries in the world, the most military capable countries in the world, the most economically advanced countries in the world are all aligned with America. We should rest easy at night, knowing that.

• 1:06:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you pull up the nuclear thing? While he's talking about this and Adam, I'm really curious to know where you're gonna go with this. Can you pull up the nuclear warhead and I want to turn it over to Adam Humberto, just pulled it up. Send it, so this is total strength, but if you think about nuclear strength of where Russia's at, this is where they rank, okay? And this is Statista. So Statista is not a politically left or right, they just give you the data. Russia's number one when it comes on to nuclear weapons as of January of 2025. Then it's US, then it's China, France, UK, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea and others. So go ahead, continue.

• 1:06:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I mean, the whole thing with Russia is yes, nuclearly, we should be fearful of them, but everything else other than that has been a complete paper tiger. We've been told for years, we have to worry about Iran, we have to worry about Iran. Iran is as weak as it gets. I mean, they just got exposed by Israel like that. Russia, you know, you might want to call it the funding and the military systems by NATO and the EU, what have you, but Russia can't even take your territory from Ukraine. So Russia is not as big as bad as we maybe would have thought. And they have this nuclear cloud hanging over us and the world saying, don't make us hit this button, don't make us hit this button. The reality is they're probably not gonna hit the button because it's mutually exclusive extermination.

• 1:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Mutual destruction. You know what I think about when I think about Russia and Ukraine?

• 1:07:36Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 1:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what I think about. I think, you ever see these guys that go into boxing that are massive bodybuilders who are 320 pounds? And then they go fight a small guy, 180, nimble, fast, quick. I think-

• 1:07:52Adam Sosnick?

  And they get their ass whooped.

• 1:07:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And they get their asses whooped. The big guy gets their asses whooped.

• 1:07:55Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:07:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But the point I'm trying to make to you is, what do big guys have that with one connection, the other guy's going to sleep?

• 1:08:02Adam Sosnick?

  They got a knockout blow.

• 1:08:03Patrick Bet-David?

  They got one punch.

• 1:08:04Adam Sosnick?

  And that's nuclear.

• 1:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the nuclear. So Russia- And choose to destroy Ukraine with their nu- nuclear arsenal. But they can't because they know if they do, everyone's gonna come after them.

• 1:08:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Of course.

• 1:08:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And Ukraine knows that you're not gonna use it. So the part of you, you know.

• 1:08:23Tom Ellsworth?

  But you also have something called nuclear fallout. I'm far from a nuclear physicist. That's Tom's job. But if you drop a nuclear bomb, it's gonna billow and smoke and go everywhere. There's gonna be nuclear fallout all over Russia. Am I wrong?

• 1:08:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what Ukraine is embarrassing Russia with?

• 1:08:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything?

• 1:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Drones.

• 1:08:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yes.

• 1:08:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Small little $500 drones. They're flying $500 drones into tanks and they're blowing them up. If you look at one data here, Adam, that's the most concerning. What's the one data there? Look at the plus minus since last year. Who's the biggest plus minus? China grew by 100 nuclear weapons just in 12 months. Hello.

• 1:09:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Hello.

• 1:09:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Hello, we are quietly increasing. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:09:05Tom Ellsworth?

  And that's new generation.

• 1:09:06Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right. That's the better kind.

• 1:09:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct, because the total number of Russia's warheads, you have to look at the generations of them. They have warheads that are smaller, that were five on the, on the tip, as they say. Where when they launch the rocket, then five of them drop into an area. Like when you're in a war and you've got the theater of battle, they can do it. And so there's a big count in that. You gotta respect the 4309. But what China did, that's 100 of the super modern stuff with, with the deployment system. When you say deployment system, it's rockets that are big enough and accurate enough to go from here to there to, to put the weapon down. What North Korea has never had is a reliable deployment system.

• 1:09:51Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why you see them launching the rockets that they launch into the ocean near Japan. And Japan always picks up the 911 and says to the US, they're doing it again. And they launch these rockets. What they're doing is they're trying to test and perfect their deployment system. Cause North Korea is just a little squeaky little voice until they get accurate rockets, missiles, that can send the warhead from here to here.

• 1:10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:13Tom Ellsworth?

  But China's stuff is the advanced stuff and that's what's.

• 1:10:17Adam Sosnick?

  nerve wracking.

• 1:10:18Patrick Bet-David?

  You better recognize, you better recognize and respect.

• 1:10:21Adam Sosnick?

  For me, this real, real, real quick, China is the big, uh, this is the gold medal of, of Trump's complete, uh, deal. I mean, he wanted to get in and out of the Middle East so he can pivot to China. Everyone knows that. He thought that he would end the Ukrainian war, Russia Ukraine war, so he can pivot to China. Everybody in, in his administration understands you have to pivot to China. They are the people that you need to deal with. They're the people, whether it's tariffs, trades, fentanyl, agriculture, chips, these rare earth minerals, soybeans, supply chains. What does Russia have that we want to concerned with? Number one, uh, we want to end this war. They have oil and natural gas and they have caviar and vodka. Russia is no longer a threat, maybe, uh, uh, uh, nuclearly. China is the threat that we need to deal with. And as soon as we can end this nonsense in Russia

• 1:11:06Adam Sosnick?

  and pivot to China would be, uh, uh, incredible.

• 1:11:08Patrick Bet-David?

  That may be right, but you need, and, and because of that, the better person to team up with is Russia. Because China doesn't necessarily need you as much as Russia does. They, they, that's the, that's the part where it's, you know, Trump, the way he was with Xi. It was good, but he wasn't as strong as he typically is. Why? Cause Xi knows what's going on and Xi behind closed doors is also doing his own game to cause Putin to distance himself from the states. Now, the one thing about China, when you think about their history, the way they like things, they like things to be fairly calm. They, they're, they're not trying to get, they just want to get so strong when it's fairly calm. But, uh, I don't know. I, I think behind closed doors, Xi is like this to Putin.

• 1:11:53Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:11:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Xi is like this to Putin.

• 1:11:54Adam Sosnick?

  Well, you made a really good point about that, that Xi does not respond to flattery. Like if you take a look at what Trump was able to do in the Middle East, a lot of these strong men, these autocrats, these people in the Middle East, they, they, they succumb, just like Trump, almost to flattery. And like, there's something in it for them, what he did with, uh, with Erdogan, he's going to give him this, what he did with Sisi in Egypt. There's no flattery to appease Xi.

• 1:12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's go to next story. Let's go to next story. Next story I want to get into is, uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. Let me see which one I'm going to get into. Let me see which one I'm going to get into.

• 1:12:26Adam Sosnick?

  Mamdani.

• 1:12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, let's go to Mamdani. Okay. New York City mayoral candidate mother says he's not American at all. Mamdani's mother said he's not American at all. So, what is she talking about? This guy is American. He loves America. You know, he loves, you know, capitalism. He loves people being able to make money and having their dreams become a reality. But apparently, the mother of New York City socialist mayoral candidate Mamdani gave an interview when he was 21-year-old American college student discussing how her son is not an American at all while using terminology that some view as derogatory towards the United States. "He is a total desi," filmmaker Mira Nair told the Hindustan Times in 2013 when her

• 1:13:12Patrick Bet-David?

  son Mamdani was 21 years old. At the time Mamdani was attending Bowdoin College, where he co-founded the School of Students for Justice in Palestine chapter and was pushing for academic sanctions against Israel. Completely, we are not, uh, Feranks at all. He is very much us. He is not an, uh, American at all. He was born in Uganda, raised between India and America, and he is at home in many places. He thinks of himself as a Ugandan and as an Indian and Hindu and Urdu. Ferank is an informal term historically used to describe foreigners or Westerners. But Meg Cook, an attorney born in India who serves as a GOP consultant and commentator,

• 1:13:55Patrick Bet-David?

  told Fox News Digital, uh, "The word is not some harmless cultural term, but rather a slur. It's the word used back in India to mock outsiders, to say you don't belong." Cook said, "Using it here about your own child raised in the United States carries the same tone as calling someone a derogatory word or words. It's flipping divisive and dri- dripping with contempt for the very country that gave your family a better life." Okay, and while this is going on, uh, the MTA boss Lieber slams Mamdani's free bus pledge. Rob, if you want to play this clip, and at that time, I'm going to come to you on this.

• 1:14:32Speaker 04

  While he appreciates the focus on affordable transit in the campaign, MTA Chairman Jan O'Leary says- Any proposal, you know, scale and complexity needs to be studied. And studying making buses free citywide would be much more expansive than studying Zaron Mamdani's pilot program for a free bus route in each borough. We would have to look at the, you know, the implication-

• 1:14:55Speaker 05

  ...of not one bus in each borough, but it would have to look at the implications on the entire system.

• 1:15:01Speaker 04

  They'd look at bus fare revenue impacts, adding buses and drivers, and impacts on MTA bondholders. Mac Rosenberg, 1010 wins on 92.3 FM.

• 1:15:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, is there any chance, and I mean any chance, that Cuomo could beat Mndani?

• 1:15:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, there is a chance, but it is so remote. You would need the people that are supporting him to suddenly become so fearful that they're not going to get their free stuff and become not upset with establishment United States the way they've been taught to be upset and to hate it. The people that were born in the US are voting for Cuomo. The people that are immigrants and are not from here are with Mndani. And they brought so much of that into New York that right now it would take a cataclysmic

• 1:15:59Tom Ellsworth?

  event for the, uh, for the, uh, foreign-born population to say, you know what? I don't think he's going to be able to get me everything for free. We're not going to get the bus for free. We're not going to get housing. We're not going to get this. We're not going to get that. You know what? I can't, I can't do this. And to suddenly kind of go the other way. But right now, he's all about victim. Look what he was doing. He was telling a victim story about his aunt and he was lying about it. Oh, she was such a victim. This is what happened. She was scared to go out in public. You know? And so, right now, I don't, I don't think there's a chance.

• 1:16:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Actually, just text it to you. If you want to use that, that's got all of it in it.

• 1:16:33Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think there's a reasonable chance that he could lose this election. I think there is a chance, but man, people have to wake up and see that he is a snake oil salesman and that he's lying to you. So the people that believe you're going to get something, look at this. He's lying about his aunt. You've got the people that run the buses who are Democrats and have been Democrats forever with union bus drivers are saying, uh, this doesn't work. The math doesn't work. How are we going to do this? So I just look at that. Look. Look at the unions that are behind the bus service and all of that. Those aren't Republicans. Those aren't buddies going back with Lee Zeldin and people like that from New York

• 1:17:17Tom Ellsworth?

  who are conservative Republicans. These are not friends of the Republicans. And they're out there saying, "What he's saying about the buses, that isn't gonna work, and that's not gonna happen." So, and I think when I see that, Pat, when I see just that glimpse from the MTA, you know what it is? People are waking up to the fact says, "You know what? We could be looking at a really bad outcome here. What could happen to the city could be really bad." And I think you're seeing little people wake up, but is there enough time in the next, what? Nine days? Or whatever it is?

• 1:17:52Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is the greatest highlight reel of what things he said that contradicts what things he said. Go ahead, Rob. Very clearly, I will not defund the police. I am in favor of defunding the police.

• 1:18:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab. I was speaking about Zarah Fui, my father's cousin.

• 1:18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Father's cousin, not your aunt.

• 1:18:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety.

• 1:18:29Speaker 04

  The struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be.

• 1:18:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I am not, and nor have I ever, called for the legalization of prostitution.

• 1:18:39Speaker 04

  You support decriminalizing prostitution?

• 1:18:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 1:18:42Speaker 04

  My fundamental belief that sex work is work.

• 1:18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  That is haram, bro. I would be happy to work with the president and the administration.

• 1:18:49Speaker 04

  What we need to be doing here in our city is to end the chapter of collaboration between City Hall and the federal government.

• 1:18:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't believe that the role of the mayor is-

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• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  I love the bang.

• 1:20:11Adam Sosnick?

  I want to say it very clearly. Adam, thoughts? I will not defund them. Oh, yeah, yeah, well, does anybody in New York even watch this kind of stuff? Sorry about this, sir. Oh, yeah. Because clearly the guy is just talking out of both sides of his mouth. You got to respect the fact that he's a crisis actor and nothing that you said should be taken seriously. But I'll say this, I'm going to give a shout out to Tom here, who teach us about upstream and downstream. And in elections, there's up ballot and down ballot. So what I would say to New York is good luck, guys, with your new socialist communist mayor. Congratulations. If Cuomo doesn't pull it off, you're going to have this mayor and best of luck to you. What I care about is local politics because we've been so obsessed with what's going on in New York, what's even going on federally, that we forget that we're having local elections in America.

• 1:20:56Adam Sosnick?

  So in Michigan, they're having elections, in Minnesota, they're having elections, in Ohio. In Miami, Florida, we're having elections. And what's interesting, that I've been paying attention to the Miami Beach race. We have a mayor in Miami Beach called Steven Minor, who's done a great job cleaning up Miami Beach. And we have this challenger. Almost like the Mom Donnie effect, who's they're calling her the Mom Donnie Beach. They're trying, she's trying to make Miami Beach Mom Donnie Beach. Her ma- her name is Kristin Rosen Gonzalez. And she's basically anti-small business. She's, she's pro-defunding the police, she's weak on crime. And it's very interesting to see the down ballot of what's happening here. The Mom Donnie effect is taking over the Democratic Party all around the world, all around the country. So it might not affect you what Mom Donnie's doing in New York, who cares?

• 1:21:40Adam Sosnick?

  Good luck, but it might affect you in Miami, might affect you Miami Beach. It might affect you in Ohio, it might affect you in Michigan. We see this Somali pirate, the guy that's running for mayor of Minnesota. So it's like, at what point in America are we going to take a look and say, do you love America? Do you stand for American values? Do you want to help small businesses? Do you want to help fund the police, not defund the police? Or are you the Mom Donnie who says out loud, I'm pro-Palestine, I'm anti-police, I'm, I'm pro-prostitution? And then the next month, he's like, I love Israel.

• 1:22:15Adam Sosnick?

  Like completely lying, I love the police, completely lying. So the two-faced thing. So in Miami, that's what I'm concerned about. I'm in Florida, that's what I'm concerned about. So I'm helping the current mayor of Miami try to defeat this, you know, communist leftist in Miami. But you need to do your part in your city. New York is probably going to fail us, but you need to do your part in other cities all around.

• 1:22:37Speaker 05

  Where's he from, where was he born?

• 1:22:39Adam Sosnick?

  Uganda?

• 1:22:40Speaker 05

  Well, okay, here's my question, I might, I might be crazy. If the president of the United States has to be born in America, why shouldn't the same rule apply for every political position? Think about it, like if you're being born here matters for national security and everything. Why would we ever let anybody else from any other country run the show? Think about that. They obviously, they're like some Trojan horses. They're, they're telling you what they are, they're lying to us. If it applies for the president.

• 1:23:02Adam Sosnick?

  You need to be born in America to serve in any capacity in government?

• 1:23:05Speaker 05

  Just in political mayors?

• 1:23:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, that's not how it works, bro.

• 1:23:07Speaker 05

  I don't know, Adam, but guess what? Because it's not, look what you're going to get. You're getting people from different countries coming in to run the city, Adam, and it's just starting. They're waving a flag of a foreign nation, the guy from, the guy from Minneapolis, Rob, is that the guy?

• 1:23:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Somalia, the

• 1:23:22Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, they're playing their song.

• 1:23:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Thirty year old candidate waving a Somali flag.

• 1:23:26Adam Sosnick?

  Where's your loyalty?

• 1:23:28Speaker 05

  Where's your loyalty?

• 1:23:29Adam Sosnick?

  Some of the people that love America the most.

• 1:23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pull up that clip?

• 1:23:32Adam Sosnick?

  Some of the people that love America the most are immigrants. Look at PBD for a second. You're saying that PBD should not run for any form of government? Because this is someone who came from Iran, under your qualification, should never run for anything, but loves America and does more for anybody.

• 1:23:46Speaker 05

  You think Pat would wave an Iranian flag during a?

• 1:23:49Adam Sosnick?

  No, but that's my point, is that he's not born in America.

• 1:23:51Speaker 05

  Yeah, but guess what? He's not going against American values. He's not going, he's not, by the way, and he's not a Christian. Yeah, I know, I understand, but guess what? And what's, what's, what does he have in common? And what does M'Nani have in common? They're in a Christian nation, playing that Muslim stuff. And guess what? I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with it. It's not.

• 1:24:08Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, a lot of people agree with you. I hear you.

• 1:24:11Speaker 05

  We are a Christian nation. You have a freaking guy waving a flag of a different country in my country. And what do you think is gonna happen? What do you think the M'Nani effect is happening? And you're about to feel it in Miami. You know what I mean? It's ridiculous.

• 1:24:23Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me see this. Let me see this clip of this guy. What's he saying? He's saying I love America? He's waving the American flag. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:24:29Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Assalamualaikum.

• 1:24:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Assalamualaikum.

• 1:24:38Adam Sosnick?

  That's over.

• 1:24:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Somalia. Somalia. Iran State. Ma'wislay. Ma'wislay. Early voting, Hada, until November 4. I need your vote. I want to do Bahna Haay. I want to do Bahna Haay. I need you.

• 1:24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You would think he's there.

• 1:24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Hadan, Utkina, hello? We're gonna win.

• 1:25:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Where is this at?

• 1:25:03Adam Sosnick?

  Minneapolis. In Minneapolis, Minnesota.

• 1:25:07Adam Sosnick?

  Can I tell you how many rallies I've been to similar to this?

• 1:25:10Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:25:10Adam Sosnick?

  In Miami, just like they have Little Mogadishu, the Somali community.

• 1:25:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:15Adam Sosnick?

  We have a massive Cuban community. Just like how in, um.

• 1:25:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Glendale.

• 1:25:18Adam Sosnick?

  In Glendale, there's a massive Armenian community.

• 1:25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:25:21Adam Sosnick?

  I've been to, like, my, the first political event that I've actually donated was Mayor Francis Suarez. He's Cuban. His father was Cuban. Half the people there are Cuban. They're not waving Cuban flags. They're waving American flags, saying, "We, as Cuban Americans, love American values." They don't get up on stage and say, "Hola, ¿cómo estás, mi amigo, mi gente? ¿Qué pasó? ¿No necesito?" They're like, "We love America. Let's keep America the way it is. We had to flee Cuba. We had to flee Free Fidel. We love America." That's the challenge, is the Democratic Party is embracing every single other flag, other than the American flag. When you get here, the whole premise is, sure, you can love your country, you can have your flag, but there's only one flag that we wave here, and it's America.

• 1:26:03Adam Sosnick?

  You don't get up on stage and not wear the... You're waving a Somali flag?

• 1:26:07Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:26:07Adam Sosnick?

  That's the problem. So I understand where you're coming from.

• 1:26:10Speaker 05

  Because if the president... Think about it. If the highest position has to be American-born, I mean, why doesn't the standard go across the board? Because, Adam, look, it's taken the time, and now it's coming, bro. There's no more talking about this. It's here.

• 1:26:22Adam Sosnick?

  What does it say then in the Constitution about representatives and Senate?

• 1:26:26Patrick Bet-David?

  To be honest with you, to me, it's more denomination. To me, it's more religion than it is about born here or not. To me, it's about if you are waving and you're, you know, you want to bring that here, I think that's going to be the enemy long term. I've said this, expressed myself multiple times on this topic. But let me get to the next story here. The next story I want to get to is the following. Bill Gates shifts tone on climate change, criticizes doomsday view, drawn mixed reaction. Rob, if you want to play this clip. So here's Bill Gates. Watch this. Go forward.

• 1:27:00Speaker 04

  Climate is a super important problem. There's enough innovation here to avoid super bad outcomes. We won't achieve our best goal, the 1.5 or even the 2 degrees. And as we go about trying to minimize that, we have to frame it in terms of overall human welfare, not just everything should be solely for climate. How much of your own view is a function of just contextually what's happening in the world versus what I think you've thought for a long time about the climate? Well, if the aid budgets to poor countries were...

• 1:27:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Continuing to go up the way they did over the last 25 years. Then the trade offs between climate action and saving children's lives wouldn't be as acute as it is now that these budgets are going down and going down quite a bit. And so the plea here is to say, okay, let's take that very limited money and not have some partitioned off for particular causes. Let's measure it all in terms of the the human welfare. How do you help those countries? Okay, so you have that. And then President Trump comes out and says, Rob, if you have that clip.

• 1:28:23Speaker 05

  It's actually a tweet.

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, he says, I, we just won the war on climate change. Bill Gates has finally admitted that he was completely wrong on the issue. It took courage to do so, and for that, we are grateful. So, okay.

• 1:28:35Speaker 05

  What are you thinking?

• 1:28:36Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, listen, for me.

• 1:28:38Speaker 05

  That's a huge, like, that's a huge shift.

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if you go, Rob, find old, old clips of Bill Gates talking about climate change. There are some, there's even a clip from 2004, 2005, I believe, of, you know, him talking about the population is the biggest issue that he did an interview with CNN and CNN didn't bring it back up. This is what I'm thinking. This is what I'm thinking. I'm thinking there's a reason why they're not releasing the Epstein files. That's what I'm thinking. Because what were the chances of Bill Gates coming out and saying this? If I had you on Kalshi, okay, and I said to you a year ago, what are the chances that

• 1:29:22Patrick Bet-David?

  President Trump is going to get Bill Gates to come to the table, sitting right next to Melania Trump, and Bill Gates is going to say, climate change is not an issue anymore? What would you have said a year and a half ago?

• 1:29:34Speaker 05

  2%.

• 1:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What would you have said, Tom? Be honest, what percentage would you have said?

• 1:29:37Speaker 05

  I want to know what odds you were giving me, but I'd be like, no, this guy is sold out to that.

• 1:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, exactly. That's not going to happen. Okay. So then why does it all of a sudden happen? Why is that? Maybe because he's sitting on so much intel that he is convinced, I'm convinced, that's what Bongino and Kash Patel bought into. They said, who is the enemy, Dan? And he asked Dan, Dan gave him a list of people that are the enemy. If those are the enemies and we know we have this on them, why release it? We'll be able to control them for the next 30 years. Isn't that what J. Edgar Hoover did with others? Isn't that what the mob did with J. Edgar Hoover? The mob knew what J. Edgar Hoover was doing and they controlled them.

• 1:30:19Adam Sosnick?

  Cross dressing.

• 1:30:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, they knew and back then it was a big deal. Nowadays you get a Purple Heart. You know, it's a very different climate we're living in today versus then. So to me, the only way somebody this dramatically makes a 180, there has to be something to have on you. I don't think it's like, "Aww, you know what? I had dinner with the president, what a nice guy."

• 1:30:43Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what? I don't know what you're saying about him. This guy's not as mean as you say.

• 1:30:48Adam Sosnick?

  Wait, what?

• 1:30:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He is so sweet.

• 1:30:50Adam Sosnick?

  Bill?

• 1:30:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Trump is the sweetest guy I... Bill, listen.

• 1:30:54Adam Sosnick?

  You don't wake up and go, "Wait a minute, wait a minute. There's a page 22 of this report."

• 1:30:58Speaker 05

  Bill, something's changed in you.

• 1:31:00Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, it ain't so bad.

• 1:31:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, man, I think these are the types of things that everybody is playing lower level management and podcasts and opinion and at the higher levels like, "Look, guys, if I ever make it to heaven, which I don't think I will, maybe I'll tell you all about it over a game of Backgammon." And you finally realize, "Till then you will never know, son, because you're not at this level."

• 1:31:24Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Just enjoy and panic and do whatever you're doing and watch all the fear porn while we run the world and run the country? And then one day, if you ever get a job like this, you'll know what this looks like. But these are some of the things they're gonna have to do because these are some of the things the enemy does to you as well. I think that's what's going on here, that's my speculation.

• 1:31:42Adam Sosnick?

  Let me make sense of what you're saying. You're saying that they traded their political weight around the Epstein file to say, "Oh, let me dangle this here, you're playing chess? You're playing checkers? We're playing chess over here, we need to come out there and basically deny everything you've been talking about for the last decade."

• 1:31:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think, do you think the president loves kids?

• 1:32:02Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:32:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he loves his grandkids?

• 1:32:04Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:32:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think he sincerely is a good father and a good grandfather? Yes. Do you think he... Can't stand what Epstein and those guys did.

• 1:32:13Adam Sosnick?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:32:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so if you think he's that and he knows this has already happened and these people are grown, he feels bad for them, but his way of making sure the country and the world stays sane is by using this.

• 1:32:24Adam Sosnick?

  So...

• 1:32:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Pure speculation, I don't know.

• 1:32:26Adam Sosnick?

  I actually think that is an incredible take and you're going five layers deep and I think that's actually... I said that the speech that Trump gave at the UN, which I called probably the one of the greatest speeches that we've had.

• 1:32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:38Adam Sosnick?

  Which we've had some, we had some... He talked about the mass migration. You're talking about how Europe is crumbling. Talked about the threats of China and the rise of antisemitism and everything's going to... But then the linchpin was the climate change denial. Do you remember that? He's like, enough's enough here. He talked about that in his speech. So in my opinion, it's been the little boy who cried climate change. And you talked about the kids. What it's done to Gen Z. The most anxious, depressed, just on edge, on the phone, climate change consumed generation we've ever had. The amount of people, like Saint Greta of climate change,

• 1:33:21Adam Sosnick?

  made her name on climate change and now she's the poster child for Palestinian liberation? Does she even talk about climate change at this point? So I don't think we understand how big of a deal this is. The fact that Bill Gates came out there and said, "Stop it with this doomsday view of climate change", is a massive, massive piece of news.

• 1:33:42Speaker 05

  Did you hear what Kamala said? I don't want to go into it back... On that same interview, Robbie?

• 1:33:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, the youth and climate anxiety?

• 1:33:47Speaker 05

  She said, "Climate crisis and the climate anxiety among young people, the United States should lower the voting age to 16 years old." She said it. She goes, "I think we should reduce voting to 16." They've only known the climate crisis. They missed substantial part of their education because of the pandemic. They coined the term "climate anxiety" to describe fear of not only being able to buy a home, but that fear will be wiped out by extreme weather, but fear of having children.

• 1:34:11Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what we almost had? Welcome to Kamala Harris's cabinet meeting. Two drink minimum!

• 1:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one is this?

• 1:34:19Speaker 05

  This is it, Pat. This is the climate anxiety.

• 1:34:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:34:22Speaker 04

  Should reduce voting age to 16.

• 1:34:27Speaker 04

  I'll tell you why.

• 1:34:27Speaker 05

  Well, go ahead.

• 1:34:29Speaker 04

  So, Gen Z. Their age about thirteen through twenty-seven. They've only known the climate crisis.

• 1:34:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:34:38Speaker 05

  See, I'm so sorry. I apologize.

• 1:34:40Speaker 04

  They missed substantial parts of their education because of the pandemic.

• 1:34:42Speaker 05

  I'm so sorry. Really tragic.

• 1:34:46Speaker 04

  If they're in high school or college, especially in college, it is very likely that whatever they've chosen as their major for study may not result in an affordable wage.

• 1:34:56Speaker 05

  What?

• 1:34:57Speaker 04

  They've coined the term

• 1:34:58Speaker 05

  Look at him.

• 1:34:59Speaker 04

  "climate anxiety" to describe fear of not only being able to buy a home, but that fear it'll be wiped out by extreme weather, but fear of having children.

• 1:35:10Speaker 05

  What? She doesn't even have any.

• 1:35:11Speaker 04

  It is expected that Gen Z will have ten to twelve jobs in their lifetime. They are a larger number than boomers. They're a specific generation.

• 1:35:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah. Anybody?

• 1:35:23Adam Sosnick?

  Could you imagine listening to that every day for the next four years?

• 1:35:26Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, we almost had it.

• 1:35:27Speaker 05

  We almost did.

• 1:35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what you call.

• 1:35:28Speaker 05

  That's how fragile America is.

• 1:35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what you call. If appropriate name would be...

• 1:35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  trying to think.

• 1:35:38Speaker 05

  For who she is?

• 1:35:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think she could have a good name called Kamala Jeremy.

• 1:35:44Speaker 05

  Kamala what?

• 1:35:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Because she is Kamala Jeremy. Because she is She is Kamala Jeremy, last name Jeremy, because she's like the fear porn master.

• 1:35:53Speaker 05

  Jeremy.

• 1:35:53Adam Sosnick?

  Ron Jeremy?

• 1:35:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm just saying.

• 1:35:56Speaker 05

  Jeremy. Like Ron Jeremy?

• 1:35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  How much, how much fear porn?

• 1:36:01Speaker 05

  Oh, she's pumping it.

• 1:36:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I think we need to lower the age, too.

• 1:36:04Speaker 05

  This is, this is part of the issue.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Why? Because if you don't know what these nine-year-olds are going through, and you know what? To be honest with you, with the current advancement of technology, why shouldn't we allow dead people to vote? We should allow dead people to vote. It is their right. Nowadays,

• 1:36:23Speaker 05

  What are they doing in Chicago?

• 1:36:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Technology is allowing you to live beyond being deaf, and if we know how they voted, we should allow them to continue voting. Are you freaking kidding me by some of the stuff you're saying? Again, please continue to spew out stuff like this. That guy who's interviewing her, he's very good at doing interviews. Uh, what's his name? I want to respect the guy because he's so good at what he's doing with the interviews. Yeah, he's so good at doing interviews, and he's he's relatively fair.

• 1:36:48Speaker 05

  He's very friendly.

• 1:36:48Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but you know, deep down inside as a capitalist, he knows, he's sitting there saying... I cannot believe this lady is saying this kind of stuff. He knows. He's not, he's not a dummy. He knows like, I don't know if I agree with the stuff that she said. You think he agrees that a 16 year should vote?

• 1:37:04Adam Sosnick?

  I think he's like a, like a, like a comfortable place for a softball interview. He's not gonna really push back. He's there to, you know, enjoy the conversation. He's not.

• 1:37:14Speaker 05

  But he's asking.

• 1:37:15Adam Sosnick?

  Have you ever seen him do one clip where he's like, nah, I don't think so, bro? One clip? Not one?

• 1:37:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's not his style.

• 1:37:20Speaker 05

  I'm just saying. Conversation.

• 1:37:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a safe space.

• 1:37:23Adam Sosnick?

  He's the definition of a safe space, which is nice.

• 1:37:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:26Adam Sosnick?

  That's great. People need that.

• 1:37:27Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but I do think there still has to be a logic there. And I think as a logical thinker, he has to independently afterwards go in and say, this is a little crazy. But go ahead. What were you gonna tell us with your?

• 1:37:38Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I don't know if you saw what Trump basically came out and he just did a, um. Rob, I sent you that picture of what Trump, uh, came out regarding, uh, I thumbed it up on the, on the chat.

• 1:37:47Speaker 05

  He's like the Trevor Noah of podcast, that guy.

• 1:37:49Adam Sosnick?

  He really is.

• 1:37:49Speaker 05

  Just that guy.

• 1:37:50Adam Sosnick?

  Really is. It's very, this is what Trump came out and said had to do with climate change with Kamala. He's basically just said, listen, if you could just start making some stuff up, I got you too, buddy. Climate change is caused by DEI. But we've been sold a bill of goods. P- Pappy, how, how many years ago we had, used to have climate change debates on PBD podcast? We had multiple people come on. Someone wrote a book about it. And we, the world is supposed to be over by now.

• 1:38:13Speaker 05

  Well, what's her name? ALC said, how many years?

• 1:38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  12 years.

• 1:38:16Speaker 05

  We're getting there. We're getting there. We can't wait for that.

• 1:38:18Adam Sosnick?

  It just goes to show, and when Bill Gates is coming out there saying pump the brakes, everyone should take note. But meanwhile, they've completely hijacked the Democratic Party. Look how massive a concern this is on the left versus on the right.

• 1:38:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's great. Keep it like that.

• 1:38:32Adam Sosnick?

  Who prioritizes climate, abortion and gun violence?

• 1:38:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at securing the border. Look at the priority of the left on securing the border. What's 76 plus 17? Is that 93?

• 1:38:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  76 plus 17 is 93. That means to them, it's only 7% the issue. No problem.

• 1:38:47Speaker 05

  Whatever.

• 1:38:48Patrick Bet-David?

  No problem.

• 1:38:48Adam Sosnick?

  Sir, that's a third party candidate. Security the border, they're nonexistent in the blue. The 17 is the gray.

• 1:38:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Brother, what is 76 plus 17?

• 1:38:59Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, I see what you're saying. You're basically saying it's nothing.

• 1:39:01Patrick Bet-David?

  The blue is only 7% of the issue.

• 1:39:04Adam Sosnick?

  So they're not even concerned with.

• 1:39:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, can you please send Adam a uteramy gift certificate for basic math?

• 1:39:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:39:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, uh, let me continue.

• 1:39:12Adam Sosnick?

  My job is to make the money. Stop it.

• 1:39:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember, once upon a time, it was called global warming. Then they changed it to climate change because some of the data didn't line up. Now it's maybe never even happened.

• 1:39:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to the next story here. Okay, there's a guy named Don Lemon.

• 1:39:28Adam Sosnick?

  Really?

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and he, hypocrite Don Lemon, torched for saying Megyn Kelly looks trans. Left is using trans as an insult now. Vinny, I'm sorry, Rob, can you play this trans clip of Don Lemon calling Megyn Kelly trans? Go ahead, Rob. Is Megyn Kelly chopped?

• 1:39:46Speaker 05

  I don't know what that means. I don't know what is chopped. I've heard it, but I don't know what that means. What does chopped mean?

• 1:39:50Patrick Bet-David?

  She's gonna get mad at me, dude. I don't know if I want this here.

• 1:39:53Speaker 05

  What does chopped mean?

• 1:39:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Chopped means like not hot.

• 1:39:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, she's chopped. I don't know, the whole MAGA look.

• 1:39:58Adam Sosnick?

  It's all the MAGA ladies.

• 1:40:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Kind of looks like a Barbie doll covered in like WD-40.

• 1:40:03Speaker 05

  I think she looks trans.

• 1:40:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's end on that note.

• 1:40:07Speaker 05

  She looks clockable.

• 1:40:09Adam Sosnick?

  Clockable, what does that mean?

• 1:40:10Speaker 05

  Clockable means they're not pulling it off right. If I'm not mistaken, Rob, if you, if you look up clockable and the trans and what, I think it means you're not pulling it off, right?

• 1:40:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Clockable is not appearing or passing off as the

• 1:40:29Adam Sosnick?

  thing that they're going for.

• 1:40:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 1:40:31Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life. Can you do me a favor, Rob? Can you just type in Megyn Kelly and go to images? That's all I want you to do. Okay? Go Megyn Kelly, go to images. Just zoom in, look at that face. Okay, and by the way, Megyn Kelly and I, I've been on her show a couple of times. It's not, we, we don't, we're not friends or communication mode, but this is a beautiful mother, strong, takes care of her family. Okay, beautiful family, does what she does, married to her husband, and only a gay man would say she's trans.

• 1:41:05Adam Sosnick?

  Yup. Because. Don Lemon is gay?

• 1:41:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Only, only a gay man would think she is not attractive, which by the way, it makes sense for him to say that, which, which indirectly, it actually makes me. Respect the fact that he truly is gay.

• 1:41:20Speaker 05

  Yes, he really is.

• 1:41:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Because if you can't see Megyn Kelly and say she's attractive and you have a hard time saying that, listen, you're full-fledged.

• 1:41:30Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:41:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You know.

• 1:41:31Speaker 05

  Pete Buttigieg.

• 1:41:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm shocked. First Liberace, then Richard Simmons, now Don Lemon. They're all really gay.

• 1:41:37Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 1:41:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't see that coming.

• 1:41:38Speaker 05

  Oh, no.

• 1:41:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but, but, you know, again, to say trans, like, that's, that's now, hey, what's wrong with being trans, Don?

• 1:41:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:41:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are you, why are you insulting the trans community?

• 1:41:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, thank you.

• 1:41:48Patrick Bet-David?

  You know.

• 1:41:48Speaker 05

  What do you, honestly, what, what do you think happened to him? Because, think about it, he was the.

• 1:41:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Didn't Ann Coulter say that? She goes, wow, now being trans is a slur. When did that happen? I think Ann said something about that.

• 1:41:59Patrick Bet-David?

  When did she say that?

• 1:42:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I think a day ago. Can you find this, Rob? Where Ann Coulter came out and pointed out the hypocrisy and says, oh, so now trans is actually not something that you protect, you little liberal. It's actually something that you now use as to attack person as a slur.

• 1:42:16Speaker 05

  And where, where is the, where is the outrage of his LGBTQ plus, where are the Ts at? Why aren't the Ts, anybody else talks about the transgenders? It was, forget about it. You're transphobic, where you're, people are gonna come after us and kill us. Why, why is he speaking like that? One of the biggest hypocrites, and I'm just trying to figure out what happened to this guy. He used to be on CNN, he used to have, like, you know, good points of view, especially with, you know, when he was like, young black people.

• 1:42:41Patrick Bet-David?

  He's married, he's married to a white guy.

• 1:42:42Speaker 05

  That's, that might be the problem. That might be the problem.

• 1:42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't, I don't know. I mean, look, for me, um.

• 1:42:48Tom Ellsworth?

  If you're not happy at the home, Pat.

• 1:42:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, there, there is a lot of impact that whatever you listen to for a long time, everybody at some point in their lives is being brainwashed.

• 1:43:01Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me explain to what I mean by this. Either your parents are brainwashing you to believe in you can do something special with your life, or your parents brainwash you to believe in you're a loser. But either way, you're being brainwashed. One of them is using detergent and cleaning your brain of all the nasty negativity minds you have. The other one is using viruses when they're washing your head, brainwashing you, and they're convincing you you're not capable of doing anything special with your life. But either way, you're being. And when you get out of college or high school and you go into college, you're being brainwashed. If you go, you know, work with a bunch of people that are business owners and they encourage you to work hard, they brainwash you into working hard. If you go to a place and hang out with a bunch of people that are single mothers,

• 1:43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  part of the 210 pound community that is getting snapped that Adam Carolla was talking about earlier when he was trying to help lose weight. If you're part of that community and you're hearing other people say, hey, just go have a couple of kids and live off of this and this and that. Okay, maybe that's the wrong. Everybody's being brainwashed. It is so flipping important who you listen to. The wrong community can totally destroy your life, totally. So I'm in a conversation with one of my friends' relatives and I said, man, you're listening to way too much negative stuff. And it's truly, I'm feeling it. I'm anxious being around you because all you're consuming is negative stuff. Get off of it. It's too much.

• 1:44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  To no, no, no, but you know this, you know, I'm like, listen, I understand. I got it. I'm with you. I also follow some of these stories, probably closer than you do. But I don't go to the point of jumping to conclusion with everything that's going on, just kind of pump the brakes a little bit. But to me, I think a Don Lemon, you know, Vinny, just think CNN hires you. Yep. Three years ago. Mm-hmm. Who are you today? They would probably have a little bit of influence on you. Of course. You go, and even the more younger we are, so Don Lemon, who knows what happened to him because one of the greatest clips of all time with Don Lemon is when he talked about, pick up your pants. Oh. Stop using these words. We've shown that clip many times. And even Morgan Freeman, I don't want a Black History Month. Do you? Yeah. What happened to us? Look at us. We did okay. Yeah.

• 1:45:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Why are we talking about Black History Month? But yeah, it's disappointing for him to go after Megyn Kelly, but that's actually a it's actually a horrible position to make. Yeah. To, to, to, there's a lot of good positions you can make to potentially go up against conservatives and say stuff. Megyn Kelly?

• 1:45:24Adam Sosnick?

  What are you talking about? Well, it's, it's just indicative of who the Democratic Party, the Donald Lemons ever is. What'd you say? You're taking indicative. Oh, indicative. Indicative. Yeah, I know. You got it? Yeah, I got it. Indicative. Got it, go. Okay, thanks, Vinnie. But it's indicative of them, they just constantly double down on the 20% of the 80/20 issue. Nobody in their right mind, any straight man will look at Megyn Kelly and be like, dime piece. Attractive, smart, capable, feminine, opinionated, but like classy. She's a poster child for what you would want from a wife, from a woman on air. Like incredible. And then you got Donald Lemon spouting whatever nonsense he's talking about. By the way, if you compare their ratings, I assume that she blew him out of the water. Don't even.

• 1:46:08Adam Sosnick?

  If you look, I think he's now, he's doing. He's not interested.

• 1:46:11Speaker 05

  He's in the streets.

• 1:46:12Adam Sosnick?

  He's doing his independent thing. I think she probably has four or five million subscribers on YouTube. I would guarantee you, he probably doesn't even have a million. I guarantee you that.

• 1:46:19Speaker 05

  He's in the streets at this point, Adam.

• 1:46:21Adam Sosnick?

  He's in the streets. He belongs to the streets. But the fact that he's shaming a woman for being a trans woman, when the Democratic Party built their brand for the last five years on trans women are women and don't be shaming trans people. Where, where's the shame? Where's the hypocrisy? What's the difference, Rob? What's the difference?

• 1:46:40Speaker 05

  He's at 970.

• 1:46:41Adam Sosnick?

  970. Megyn Kelly's at 4.5 million. So she's four times bigger than him, let's just say. So he's punching up. She probably won't even respond because she'd be punching down to this sad man just on a.

• 1:46:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, no, she will definitely respond. She will definitely respond.

• 1:46:57Adam Sosnick?

  And Rob, do us a favor, subscribe to Megyn Kelly's podcast right there. She needs our help.

• 1:47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so let's go to next story. Next story I want to get into, how much time? We got 10:49, okay. Uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. Let me see here. Kash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in explosive feud with Trump counter, counter, uh, terror chief. Let me read this story to you on what he's saying. Kash Patel, let's go through this. So here we go. Okay. Kash Patel crushed efforts by Tulsi Gabbard's closest advisor to see if foreign powers was involved in charges of assassination. The head of national counterterrorism, Joe Kent, analyzed FBI files to determine whether Kirk's alleged killer received assistance from foreign power. Kent's investigation on Lauren Patel, who believed the counterterrorism chief was

• 1:47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  overstrapped, overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation. According to the New York Times, Kirk was shot in the throat by a high-powered sniper rifle while speaking to college students at Utah Valley University on September 10. The Times spoke with supporters of Kent who claimed he was doing his job by chasing down any leads to ensure no foreign groups were involved in Kirk's death. After Patel discovered Kent had gone through FBI case material related to Kirk's killing, a tense White House meeting was held to discuss the matter. A roundtable meeting between Kent, Patel, Gabbard, Gabbard, J.D. Vance, and White House Chief of Staff Suzy Wallace and senior DOJ officials were held at the White House. Kent told the administration officials that he was granted access to the

• 1:48:26Patrick Bet-David?

  FBI files by low-ranking agency official. Trump administration officials were worried that Kent's probe into foreign interference could provide ammunition to Robinson's defense lawyers, who could then argue more than one suspect was involved in Kirk's murder. Adam?

• 1:48:41Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the date that we have to kind of pay attention to right now, because there's so many rumors swirling out there, is this January 16th. Have you heard about this date? January 16, 2026, is apparently going to be the pre-trial date that Tyler Robinson is apparently supposed to appear in court. They said that the legal system is already in motion, charges have been filed, the defendant is incarcerated without bail, and the state is preparing for trial. So until that date... Rumors are gonna circulate, people are gonna go out there and make all sort of allegations, insinuations. We know who's out there just kind of claiming all sorts of wild things, that the President Trump has alleged he killed Charlie, and naming a day after him,

• 1:49:26Adam Sosnick?

  and people are alleging these foreign governments. But the reality is, unfortunately, none of this is gonna come to light until the trial actually starts. Then you have people in Charlie Kirk's camp, you know, our friend Andrew Colvett, and Mikey McCoy, who was basically his right-hand man. There's allegations that they were involved. I think all this is gonna come to light. In my opinion, a lot of questions need to be answered, a lot of questions, but still, at this point, the most likely guilty person is this guy Tyler Robinson, but a lot of things don't add up. I know that you've kind of downed down the path of loading the gun and jumping off the roof.

• 1:50:05Speaker 05

  The timing is up, and his furry lover has been missing for how many weeks, Rob?

• 1:50:09Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 1:50:10Speaker 05

  I think six weeks. Six weeks they can't find furry boy.

• 1:50:12Adam Sosnick?

  What I've learned, you know, doing this podcast and watching all these massive news stories is, everybody, because of the internet, can just voice their opinion. We give a shout out to a guy on a podcast who had the most credible, incredible breakdown of the bullet, and this and that, and then some other expert the next day was like, well, he's actually wrong. So until we actually see what the, you know, FBI has and what the authorities have, it's just consume information, take it in, form your opinions, don't make any final assessments until we get this information.

• 1:50:47Speaker 05

  Yeah. But you're not gonna be able to see it, because they voted not to televise the actual trial.

• 1:50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  What do they call it? The, um, yes, yeah, um, what is it called, Rob? That you can't talk about it?

• 1:51:00Speaker 05

  Gag order. They gagged everybody. They do a lot of that. I understand that, but I mean, like, think about it. We get to watch Johnny Depp listen to Amber Heard as she crapped on his bed. These are the trials that we want to see. I mean, me personally, and going back to the story, I just think it's odd, why would Cash Patel, like, Sean Tulsi Gabbard? But you know who Joe Kent is? Retired Army Special Forces Chief War and Office Sir, served 20 years, completed 11 combat tours in Iraq, Yemen, Africa. He retired and worked in CIA after entered politics, like he ran twice for Congress. This guy is a stud, a legitimate stud. Why would you try to hinder him for looking at him if there is outside foreign entities involved?

• 1:51:43Speaker 05

  Like, come on, bro. Like, why, why, why would you stop him?

• 1:51:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Was he assigned to do it or did he go to get it?

• 1:51:48Speaker 05

  I think he kind, I, I think he kind of.

• 1:51:50Adam Sosnick?

  It says Kent's investigation alarmed Patel, who believed the counter terror, counter terror chief was overstepping by interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation.

• 1:51:59Speaker 05

  He's in the government, though. You're working for the government. He's just being proactive. I mean, I, I personally, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. It's, it's just, it's just like you said, Adam, these unanswered questions that people.

• 1:52:10Adam Sosnick?

  What I find to be comforting is this round table with, with Kash Patel, with Kent that you're talking about, Joe Kent, with Tulsi Gabbard, with J D Vance, with Susie Wiles. You know, you might say you don't trust one person or you don't like how one person handles those things. But if you put this American team of Avengers, I would say that they were going to get to the bottom of what happened with Charlie. Do you trust the people in that room? Between Tulsi, Kent, Kash Patel, Susie Wiles, J D Vance? Don't you think they have America's best interests and Charlie's best interest and the truth's best interest in mind? Don't you think?

• 1:52:47Speaker 05

  I'm not saying that. What I'm, I don't even, when it comes to like FBI's and CIA, look at all the stuff that we hear about intelligence.

• 1:52:54Adam Sosnick?

  I hear you, but it's not just the FBI and the CIA. You're having Susie Wiles in there. You have J D Vance in there. J D Vance was, was, was incredibly close with Charlie. Don't you think that you trust their judgment?

• 1:53:04Speaker 05

  I trust J D Vance.

• 1:53:05Adam Sosnick?

  Don't you trust their judgment more than talking heads on the internet?

• 1:53:07Speaker 05

  No, but Adam, at the same time, when it comes to guns and taking them apart and stuff, we're not, we're not dumb. You know what I mean? Taking apart a gun that fast and that type of gun and putting it in a backpack.

• 1:53:16Adam Sosnick?

  So what's, what's your biggest apprehension to what you've seen out there with the story? Cause I agree, there are questions that need to be answered.

• 1:53:23Speaker 05

  I mean, there's, it's such a long line of just.

• 1:53:25Adam Sosnick?

  But what's the number, what's the number one thing?

• 1:53:27Speaker 05

  Here's one of them.

• 1:53:28Adam Sosnick?

  What's the number one thing though?

• 1:53:29Speaker 05

  Hold on. George Zinn stood up the moment. When Charlie was shot, everybody is running that way. This guy stands up, pulls out a white handkerchief. This was all planned for him. Pulls out a white handkerchief at him and walks towards Charlie and is saying, I did it. Shoot me, kill me, takes his pants off. That to me says that there was four, somebody knew about this that was gonna happen. And there's just a bunch of unanswered stuff. And what's crazy is with all the cameras and everything, and we still can't say definitively what happened. That, that, a normal person doesn't do that. That's a really, really big problem. And then Adam, a 30 odd six gun cannot fit in a backpack. He shot guns, I've shot guns, he's shot guns. You can't fold a 30 odd six, bro, and put it in any backpack.

• 1:54:11Speaker 05

  Troy out there who has a backpack that's one of those long ones, Pat, those Ranger ones. You can't do it, it's impossible. And Adam, and I'm not, I'm not this crazy guy that's thinking all this, the president and all that. No, I don't think about none of that nonsense. Just give me the actual facts. Cause when you're, when you're, when you're shunning it from us, and I know we don't deserve to hear all of it right out. Cause some of it, some of the stuff is in there that's pretty messed up.

• 1:54:32Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way.

• 1:54:33Speaker 05

  Just be honest with us.

• 1:54:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, we can move on from this. I have so many questions.

• 1:54:38Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I have so many questions with this. It's not even funny.

• 1:54:41Speaker 05

  What's your number one question, Pat?

• 1:54:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I have so many questions with this. Uh, um, and I've, I've expressed it many, many, many times. So I'm not, I'm not gonna go through this too, but I have a lot of questions. I, I would, I would, you know how when something happens? You, you then volunteer to join the military, like nine 11, a lot of people volunteer to join the military. I would volunteer to go work for the FBI to investigate and be one, I would volunteer. This is how bad I wanna know what happened here. I would volunteer because this guy, this guy was a, this guy was a very unique guy. Volunteer, this guy was a very unique guy. I would volunteer to do that. You don't even need to pay me.

• 1:55:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And I would, I would give a certain set of hours to go to this and find out what's going on over here because. This is a, this is a, this is a very different time between MLK being assassinated, Bobby being assassinated, Bobby Kennedy being assassinated, you know, JFK being assassinated than him. We got 3,500 cameras. We got things right now that we didn't have back in the days. We should be able to figure out what's going on and, you know, it's, it's, it's, but anyways, I, I got, I got one too many questions that I need two hours to go through for me to find this out. But if they do want to call me to help with that, I would volunteer my time. I'd go to DC once a week to just help figure this thing out. That's how bad

• 1:56:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to know who was behind this. And I don't care who it was. I, I want to know who was behind this. I have a list of 15 different people that could be. You know, when you sell life insurance?

• 1:56:17Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  We sold 800,000 life insurance policies over the years, give or take.

• 1:56:22Adam Sosnick?

  A lot of insurance.

• 1:56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And when you have death benefits that come and they get activated and you get the investigation. So I sold an insurance policy to a guy. And it's like, hey, you know, this guy deserves a $250,000 policy. Oh, you think? Yes. No, he does. No, he didn't. Were you there when he peed? Uh, no. He gave me the urine. Okay. Well, it happens. He didn't pee. His brother peed for him. How do you know that? Well, let me tell you what it matched. It happened that you also sold a, uh, insurance policy to his brother as well. His brother's pee is identical to his pee. No way. Yeah. And now that he died a year and a half later after the investigation, we find that he lied on this and da, da, da, da, da, and this was behind it. No way. Yes. Shoot, we can't pay him $250. They just refund

• 1:57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  back whatever payment he paid into it. Hey, this other person died. How did he die? He shot himself. Who was in the house? The husband was in the house. So who was the, well, let me tell you. They looked at him and said, the husband was involved? No way. Yeah. How about this one? This is, do you know, like, part of being in life insurance and especially volume-based for us, volume-based, I don't sell like to rich millionaires and billionaires. We sold to middle Americans, you know, people who wanted to buy quarter of a million, half a million dollar policy, million dollar policy. You go through these audits with these investigators and you are sometimes like flabbergasted by the results of what really happened. But- Our job is to pursue, because I want this surviving member who was relying on the breadwinner

• 1:57:49Patrick Bet-David?

  to get that $500,000 death benefit. I want her to get the money because she has to take care of those two kids. But no, this happened, that happened. I mean, there's way too many things for us to go through here. But I'm excited to hear the investigation start. And this is something I simply, as a guy who saw a man who was a once in a generation type of a guy, I want to know what happened.

• 1:58:10Adam Sosnick?

  Do you trust those people that I just mentioned? Kash Patel, Tulsi, J.D. Van, Susie Wiles?

• 1:58:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I think you have to know already, if you're around me enough, Adam, you have to know already for me that to be the CEO and the executive team of the biggest company in the world called the United States of America, you don't live in the same reality.

• 1:58:33Adam Sosnick?

  Good point.

• 1:58:34Patrick Bet-David?

  So don't, don't, it's not, you speak a very different language than they speak. It's a very different language. Like, I was in the military, okay? And I was gonna go be 18 Delta, Fifth Group. I talked about it yesterday with the guy, Jordan Goudreau, who was behind Operation Gideon, where they tried to take out Maduro. And you remember this interview that we did? That, you know, maybe we'll show the intro at the end. We don't even know if we're gonna release it or not. He was supposed to go to jail yesterday. When we interviewed him, he was in the middle of the parking lot outside of his homeless shelter with an anklet on because he's about to go to jail. Did you hear about this?

• 1:59:07Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:59:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe we'll show this at the end before you. I started watching the documentary yesterday as well with Tico. He's a very interesting guy. But to me, when you're 18 Delta and you go, and then you're Delta Force and you go, they didn't join the same military I joined. I didn't see the same thing they saw. They saw things I will never see. It's a very different world you live in. So the average person cannot relate to what these guys have to do at the White House and who the enemies are. They really know who the ene... And by the way, sometimes they're doing certain things and making some decisions that seem like they're divisive and it's nasty.

• 1:59:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, you know, it's like, you know, the whole thing with, you know, idolize, demonize, humanize? The whole father-son relationship that goes through three phases? Sometimes your father has to die for you to realize why he did what he did when you were 16 years old. Sometimes you have to lose somebody to say, ah. Damn. You know, guy sitting there, he can't stand his dad. You know, dad never told him he loves him because his dad never told him he loves him. So his father didn't tell him that whole thing that nobody. And then his dad dies and he goes to the funeral just out of, you know, I have to go to funeral. Hundreds of people show up and they all start telling how he helped them out. Even though he didn't have any money and they're like, you don't even know who your father was.

• 2:00:34Patrick Bet-David?

  And the guy feels like shit saying, oh, my God, my dad helped so many people out and he just never talked about it. That these, these things are real. A part of life that is real. And you don't need to know everything. I talked to a guy who his father was part of Savak. And I put him in contact with a very powerful Savak, former Savak director. And, and they met each other and that guy told them about what his grandfather did and why they didn't share everything with them. And one day he and I were said, very, very successful guy, this guy's, what I mean very successful. I don't mean like a millionaire. He's very, very successful. He visits me every month. We sit down and. Uh, we do engagements with him for his firm. He's got a very big company. And, um.

• 2:01:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, what makes you think your dad deserves to tell you this?

• 2:01:16Patrick Bet-David?

  What makes you think he has to tell you what he went through? Who are you for him to have to tell you this? Who am I for my dad tell me everything? Who are my kids for me to have to tell them everything? You don't know the burden I carry. I don't know the burden my dad carried, living in Iran, going through war. And I don't know the burden his dad carried. Living in the 1920s. I'm supposed to understand what it's like to live in the 20s in Iran? No. So I, I, I'm telling you selfishly because of how much I believed in Charlie Kirk. From the moment I met him, I said, this guy's going to be a president one. And the kind of president I would go campaign for.

• 2:01:49Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I would go not only put money and I would have campaigned for this guy. I would have been the guy that would be like, hey. I'm, I want to help this guy become a guy. I don't, I've never done that.

• 2:01:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 2:01:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we fought very hard for Trump and that was probably the first time I ever did something like this where even when everybody. Walked away from him 2020, I'm probably one of the only guys that in the circle that I still stayed with them. And you remember those moments when we had those conversations.

• 2:02:11Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:02:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm not happy about it, but I understand. The job of being in. The White House, you're not supposed to fully understand half the things that they go through. You're not. And, you know, you voted for him, whether you like him or not, they're doing their job. And I'm not expecting like 100% of the stuff that they're doing. Anyways, I don't want to get into this topic as long as I did, but anyways, oh, okay, so. Pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. What do we got? Let me see what my next meeting is. If I got my next meeting going on right now, that is. Uh, okay, so then, then we have to kind of wrap up here. So let me, let me do this. Uh, let's go into the interview with, uh, with this fellow, Jordan Goudreau.

• 2:02:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Who, he was apparently offered 212.9 million dollars by Guaido and the former president of Colombia. To go in and take out Maduro, and his name is Jordan Goudreau. And it was pretty wild, the stories that he was saying. Former 18 Delta. Okay, a guy that was part of fifth group, the group that I was supposed to go to. Green Beret. Green Beret, yeah, decorated, he's done a lot of work. I think he's a three-time bronze medalist. And, uh, he's done some stuff. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:03:24Speaker 05

  The bottom line is, there was a civil war going on in the White House.

• 2:03:27Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think's really the motive behind closed doors?

• 2:03:29Speaker 05

  Venezuela is to the United States what Ukraine is to Russia. Let's cut through all the narrative. He's trying to secure it. For a possible escalation of, of, of war with Russia-China.

• 2:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Even if you look at the way he's handling it right now, it's very public. They're flying over Venezuela, they're blowing up boats just to say, here's what we're doing.

• 2:03:46Speaker 05

  But I was recruited to do this, to facilitate the capture of Nicolas Maduro.

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're doing this, you're essentially doing a business deal with CIA. You know the track record, what it is, and you know you're playing with fire.

• 2:03:58Speaker 05

  The highest office asks you to do something, you do it. Just like when my commanders tell me to do, I do it.

• 2:04:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Where would the payment come from? From whom?

• 2:04:06Speaker 05

  It was told to me that the United States.

• 2:04:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The contract that he signed is public with you.

• 2:04:11Speaker 05

  It's public.

• 2:04:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Two hundred twelve point nine million dollars over the course of the term. What's the closest you ever got to Maduro?

• 2:04:15Speaker 05

  I was getting reports on, on, on, on the type of soap that he used. That's how close I was, Patrick.

• 2:04:21Patrick Bet-David?

  As close as you got, did you ever have a chance where if you wanted to take him out, you could?

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• 2:05:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Ooh, ooh, that cliffhanger right there.

• 2:05:32Speaker 05

  You tell him where, where he's standing and like why?

• 2:05:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, he's standing outside with the greatest technology for audio in the world.

• 2:05:39Speaker 05

  Oh my god.

• 2:05:39Patrick Bet-David?

  While people are walking past him in the back, he's outside at a homeless shelter.

• 2:05:44Speaker 05

  At the VA. He's at the VA. He's a homeless, with all the accolades that he just said, he's a freaking home, he's homeless. That guy's homeless? Yeah.

• 2:05:53Patrick Bet-David?

  He's homeless.

• 2:05:53Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, he's homeless. Anyways, we, we, uh, we may post the interview tomorrow to go out nine AM in the morning. So hang tight. Matter of fact, uh, yeah, we may post it tomorrow nine AM.

• 2:06:03Speaker 05

  I think it's worth it.

• 2:06:05Patrick Bet-David?

  We will see, we will see, we will see. Anyways, by the way, I want to show two other things before we wrap up, okay? During my, uh, uh, birthday, I got a lot of nice videos, but one of the coolest videos I got.

• 2:06:17Speaker 05

  Oh my god, is that Ariella?

• 2:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's Ariella. Selena's mom sent this to me and I didn't play it last week, but I want to play it. Tell me this kid isn't flipping cute. She is so cute. Watch this clip, guys. Watch this clip. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:06:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Happy birthday to you. Are you twenty forty seven? Cause you don't look forty seven.

• 2:06:37Speaker 05

  At all.

• 2:06:39Speaker 00

  What age does he look?

• 2:06:44Speaker 05

  Forty six.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  That's because he was forty six yesterday, so.

• 2:06:54Speaker 05

  Hmm, yeah, a lot changed, okay. Um, anyways, um, Pat?

• 2:07:01Speaker 05

  I want you to tell me.

• 2:07:05Speaker 05

  How are your kids? How are you? Ho- how's your kids? I wanna meet them.

• 2:07:10Patrick Bet-David?

  How's your kids?

• 2:07:11Speaker 05

  Hmm, I wanna meet them, gimme. I just wanna meet them, just do a video of something like with them in it. Cause I wanna see what they look like. You know, I don't really know.

• 2:07:24Speaker 05

  And I want to know who your kids are, I don't know the name, and I want to know the names, so just make a video with them. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

• 2:07:36Speaker 05

  Bye.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  She adorable, she's so cute. Anyway, somebody on my neck.

• 2:07:40Speaker 05

  One of my friends.

• 2:07:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The daughter and. Yeah, she's, she's, uh, she's, uh. That girl is so cute.

• 2:07:47Speaker 05

  Acting class, go, I go, you, you're, she's amazing.

• 2:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  For the birthday wish, you're the best, I appreciate you, and by the way, we got a lot of cool stuff that came this way. I thank all of you guests for what you send. But we have, we have some clips that was sent to us, uh, and. I, I don't want, like, here's what I don't wanna do. I had Rob talk to our lawyers, cause I don't know if we can show this clip or not. It was sent to us from a guy who works directly with Newsom, who is no longer, I think he quit about a week ago. And he sat down showing an interview that was supposed to go live with Newsom that never went live, so. Just watch this, but the only thing is, Rob, if lawyers get ahold of us. I want, I'm holding myself harmless because they send this clip to us as an insider.

• 2:08:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we're not stepping on the copyright here, we're trying to stay inside the lines.

• 2:08:30Speaker 05

  Did you guys see when he was in the All in Smoke? All the Smoke Podcast? He acts, he acts like he's, he's Panders. He one of the brothers. Well, this, are we gonna show it, Pat?

• 2:08:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, what happens here is, he actually ends up becoming one of the brothers, if you watch it. Well, watch it, so, again, lawyers, if you're watching, just watch this, go ahead, watch this.

• 2:08:48Speaker 05

  Governor Newsom, thank you for being on the podcast. Thank you for having me, Stephen, I'm, I'm really excited to be here with both of you, so hopefully we'll just, you know, knock this one out of the park. So you're the governor of one of the big.

• 2:08:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Biggest, most diverse state.

• 2:08:57Speaker 05

  Who's that?

• 2:08:58Tom Ellsworth?

  How do you handle that kind of pressure?

• 2:09:01Speaker 05

  Yo, I'll tell you, dog. I think it came from my upbringing. You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, being from the streets just made me like really hardcore. You feel me? You guys feel me? I thought you were from Marin County. That's one of the richest neighborhoods in California. I mean, yeah, you're right, but my area was really, really tough. Do you feel me? You know what I'm saying? I had to teach myself to be a man. You know, my pops dipped out early. I know y'all can relate to that, right?

• 2:09:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Nah, my dad never left.

• 2:09:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, mine either. Right, right. But you know, it was hard. You know what I'm saying? Like, my mom's is working all day. You know what I mean? I'm home. You know what I mean? No money, just sitting there with just stacks of Wonder Bread. You know what I'm saying? Just stacks with like mac and cheese. Just putting that mac and cheese on it. Okay, OG Gavin. Yeah, that sounds real hood. Bro, I'm so hood, bro. I would just be in the backyard for hours, just shooting hoops. You feel me? Just putting in the work. And then my mom would come out. You know what I'm saying? And she'd be like, "Hey Gavin, dinner's ready." But man, shut your white ass up, woman. Always trying to keep a brother down. You feel me? That's how they always do these white women. I have to ask though, is there any proof that you were really about that life? Yo, I'm so happy you asked, dog.

• 2:10:08Speaker 05

  California dreaming, homie. I actually brought my childhood journal. You know what I'm saying? Just to show y'all how hood, how gangster I was. Cause I documented everything, fam. Check me out right here.

• 2:10:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything fam.

• 2:10:19Speaker 05

  In West Marin County, born and raised on the playground was where I spent most of my days. Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool, all shooting some B-ball outside of the school.

• 2:10:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I know that.

• 2:10:31Speaker 05

  Isn't that the theme song to Fresh Prince of Bel Air? Yeah, it is. I, I don't know who he is, but he sounds like he had a rough ass life. You feel me, dog? You feel me?

• 2:10:38Tom Ellsworth?

  All right, we're about to wrap this thing up. And Governor, is there anything else you'd like to add?

• 2:10:44Speaker 05

  Man, y'all already know what time it is. 2028, it's Newsome, Nick.

• 2:10:51Adam Sosnick?

  Whoa. Yeah, so um, he, but I don't know if legal is gonna get us in trouble for that. Nah, you could, bro.

• 2:10:58Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think they can show stuff like that, but listen, whoever the, uh, the, uh, the intern was that sent us, whatever you do, come to the state of Florida, you'll feel freer here instead of working for something like that. But anyways.

• 2:11:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I have 22 emails, I'm gonna spend the afternoon.

• 2:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Tom, Tom's got some stuff he's gotta do. Gang, uh, have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. Enjoy Halloween today, we're gonna be going trick or treating. And, uh, I'm, I'm planning on, listen, if the Yankees need me to go, step up to the plate next year.

• 2:11:28Adam Sosnick?

  Get it.

• 2:11:28Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm, I'm ready, guys. It, it'll be, it'll be a new market, okay? I'll be a minority owner slash pinch hitter coming out.

• 2:11:36Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:11:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Helping out the organization, definitely can't pitch. I threw a first pitch one time, I think I hurt somebody, but, uh.

• 2:11:42Adam Sosnick?

  PBD predictions, uh, World Series, Toronto versus your boy, Uncle Tom's Dodgers.

• 2:11:50Tom Ellsworth?

  The vacationing Dodgers.

• 2:11:52Adam Sosnick?

  Oh my gosh.

• 2:11:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, I, I'm not gonna lie to you, stats showing how great this World Series and amount of viewership they're getting. It's unreal and it's actually, of course, for me, I want the Yankees to be in there, of course. And the team that is in there is a team that beat us, which is Toronto, yeah.

• 2:12:09Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So of course I want the, the, and by the way, I want a game seven. I have a feeling, I'll make a prediction, Tom.

• 2:12:15Adam Sosnick?

  Let's hear it.

• 2:12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Ready?

• 2:12:16Adam Sosnick?

  Let's hear it.

• 2:12:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Can I make a prediction to you? I could be wrong, but I'm gonna make a prediction.

• 2:12:20Adam Sosnick?

  What?

• 2:12:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna say Mookie Betts is gonna have a great game today. I think Mookie's gonna have a great game today.

• 2:12:25Adam Sosnick?

  So Mookie and Yamamoto.

• 2:12:26Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Mookie's, I think Mookie's gonna play lights out today.

• 2:12:30Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 2:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's gonna go to game seven, I think Mookie's, I was there when they won the World Series at, during COVID. You went to game three or something, I went to game seven, I don't know what it was, but we exchanged pictures, if you remember that.

• 2:12:42Adam Sosnick?

  Oh yeah, Dodgers, Tampa.

• 2:12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 2:12:43Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, yes, I was in game five, Bueller, and then game six was the decider.

• 2:12:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And I flew to LA. With my friends in LA off with Steven, I went and watched the game where Houston Astros beat the Dodgers. That was game seven the year before, right? Yeah, that was pitching, I was there as well. Seventeen. But to me, I think Mookie is, he's playing so good as a, he made a couple mistakes, but he's playing so good as a shortstop. Forgot to go from an outfielder to be a shortstop. I'd like to see Mookie recover and have a good game six, going into seven, and then game seven. You know what I want to see in game seven? Honestly, you want me to tell you what I want to see? Please don't. I believe every once in a while, we get the opportunity to watch a guy that's destined

• 2:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  for greatness. I would love a game seven. I'm talking walk-off homerun, Otani. Oh, bottom of the ninth? Bottom of the ninth? I want to see it. My god. I want to see it. I do too. I want to see something like that. I want to see, I want to see something like that. I want to see some special happen, but I want to see Mookie have a big game. After all the Canada stuff, Tom, we cannot, I know you're from Canada too, which is weird. I'm derivative in Canada. Do you know, do you know why it's the number one reason why I'm not rooting for Toronto Blue Jays? Mark Carney. No, Pierre Poliev. Oh, there you go, with an apple, boy. It's just the number one reason, I just can't do it. Even though, even though Vladimir, respect. Oh my god. Even though that rookie. Wow, what's that guy's name?

• 2:14:17Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he got record, record, how many strikeouts? Thirteen strikeouts in a game? Yep. Do you want to know? Do you want to know the craziest thing about the thirteen strikeouts that he got in the game? By the way, at this point of the game, people are watching, they're just sports people that are watching. Let me tell you the guy that got thirteen strikeouts in a game. A number came out showing how much he makes compared to what others make, Otani makes. Do you know how much he's making right now? How much? Okay, let me send this to you, Rob. Okay, Rob, I'm going to send this to you. Show this, this is the pitcher who is...

• 2:14:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Toronto pitcher? Oh my, the guy pitched, lights, he got one hit off of him. One hit off of him. Rob, if you don't mind showing this. One hit, you almost threw a no hitter in the World Series? No, meaning the one hit that got the run is what I'm saying. But the guy pitched so good and they compared his salary to Blake Snell's salary. Do you know how much his salary was for 2025? Don't tell me. If this is right, Tom, he signed an eight million dollar contract, but his salary for 2025, if this number is right. Half a million bucks? I, I don't know if this is right or wrong, but zoom in. Fifty seven thousand? Blake Snell made 27.8 million. He apparently just got paid that much money. Is that even possible, Tom?

• 2:15:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it, it is. Um, when you come up through the minors, you have to remember, he jumped three levels in the minors this year and is now at the bigs. I believe his first full year in the bigs on service time next year, it's gonna be 475, but he's on the rookie deal and they have those stages.

• 2:15:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Making fifty seven thousand dollars a year as a rookie, got 12 strikeouts. World series game. And the opponent got paid 28 million and Blake Snell is a stud. I wish he would have come to the Yankees, but he chose to go to LA. Anyways.

• 2:15:58Speaker 05

  It's reminiscent of when there was a Super Bowl, uh, two years ago and it was Patrick Mahomes, there was Brock Purdy was a rookie on a rookie contract.

• 2:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 2:16:04Speaker 05

  Making like a half a million bucks versus the highest paid quarterback in the league. So prediction, who do you got?

• 2:16:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's going game seven.

• 2:16:10Speaker 05

  Who's wins it in game seven?

• 2:16:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Dodgers walk off. That's what he wants, bro. I'd like a walk off.

• 2:16:15Speaker 05

  But give us a prediction.

• 2:16:17Patrick Bet-David?

  If you want me to do odds, Toronto's taking it.

• 2:16:20Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:16:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Toronto's taking it. If you want me to do odds, Toronto's taking it.

• 2:16:24Speaker 05

  If he said somebody has to step up, I mean, I think Otani's gonna have a good game. Somebody either than Otani, potentially Mookie Betts, has to step up because the momentum, and that's how it is in baseball. Yankees know this, the New York Giants, don't judge. It's the momentum. It's who's riding that high. Vladimir Guerrero's swing is like he's chopping like a tree down with one swing of an axe.

• 2:16:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, Springer is hurt. He hasn't even played last two games and they still won.

• 2:16:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Jerry Springer's no longer here?

• 2:16:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He's passed away.

• 2:16:49Adam Sosnick?

  He passed away.

• 2:16:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Near Cincinnati.

• 2:16:51Speaker 05

  Pat, if somebody else, if somebody else steps up today, Dodgers winning it goes to seven and Dodgers win game seven.

• 2:16:57Patrick Bet-David?

  If they win tonight?

• 2:16:58Speaker 05

  If they win tonight, Dodgers win in game seven, but if not, I mean.

• 2:17:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Tonight matters.

• 2:17:01Tom Ellsworth?

  There are two games in Toronto, we're up in Toronto, and Toronto's playing phenomenally. The Dodgers gotta play well enough to beat Toronto and Toronto's playing tremendous baseball right now.

• 2:17:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Go Mookie!

• 2:17:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there hasn't been a.

• 2:17:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Mookie, come on, buddy!

• 2:17:14Adam Sosnick?

  There hasn't been a back-to-back World Series champion since your Yankees, I believe in 2000, 25 years ago, I think the Yankees won.

• 2:17:22Tom Ellsworth?

  99?

• 2:17:22Adam Sosnick?

  Three in a row.

• 2:17:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, do you know?

• 2:17:24Adam Sosnick?

  Did they not?

• 2:17:26Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way.

• 2:17:26Adam Sosnick?

  The Yankees won, the Yankees won back-to-back World Series in the late 90s, early 2000s, did they not?

• 2:17:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Did you say back-to-back-to-back or back-to-back?

• 2:17:33Adam Sosnick?

  Did they, what'd they get? They get two out of three.

• 2:17:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Three, I thought it was three.

• 2:17:35Patrick Bet-David?

  What's a back-to-back-to-back, Rob?

• 2:17:37Adam Sosnick?

  I think they won three in a row. I think they won three in a row.

• 2:17:40Tom Ellsworth?

  98, yep.

• 2:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you're right.

• 2:17:42Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so I was right.

• 2:17:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:43Adam Sosnick?

  I was right. See, Adam's right sometimes.

• 2:17:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Once in his life.

• 2:17:46Adam Sosnick?

  But, but.

• 2:17:47Speaker 05

  When it comes to sports, not NBA.

• 2:17:49Adam Sosnick?

  I don't think it's gonna happen again this year. Sorry, Tom, we were there when you broke PBD's heart in Yankees stadium last year.

• 2:17:57Speaker 05

  But you know what?

• 2:17:58Adam Sosnick?

  During the World Series, Toronto.

• 2:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, what do you say, Tom?

• 2:18:01Adam Sosnick?

  Canada, you've been falling apart. Congratulations, I think they're gonna win the World Series.

• 2:18:04Tom Ellsworth?

  We have to appreciate what the Yankees did, that, that back-to-back. Do you know who was the team that did it before them? Do you know how far back you had to go?

• 2:18:13Speaker 05

  Was it the Chicago White Sox?

• 2:18:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Pete Rose should have been in the Hall of Fame.

• 2:18:17Speaker 05

  Cincinnati.

• 2:18:18Tom Ellsworth?

  While he was alive, but it was the Big Red Machine, 75, 76, that went back-to-back. And it was that long that the Yankees went back-to-back, which shows you how.

• 2:18:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Athletics went back-to-back-to-back?

• 2:18:29Speaker 05

  The Reds?

• 2:18:29Patrick Bet-David?

  72, 73, 74?

• 2:18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, they beat the Athletics, hang on. They beat the Mets, the Reds, and the Dodgers.

• 2:18:36Speaker 05

  Freaking guy.

• 2:18:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Was Dennis Eckersley pitching at that time?

• 2:18:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, no, no, no. It was Catfish Hunter and a guy named Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson won.

• 2:18:44Adam Sosnick?

  Reggie Jackson was.

• 2:18:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever, by the way, have you ever seen Reggie Jackson? He hits a homerun. After he hits a homerun, he chases down the pitcher and beats the living crap out of him.

• 2:18:52Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 2:18:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you seen this? We can't show it, but Reggie's a funny guy. Reggie's a funny guy. All right, okay, sounds good, guys. Have a good weekend and, uh.

• 2:19:00Adam Sosnick?

  Happy Halloween, everybody.

• 2:19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go Mookie, have fun tonight. Take care, God bless, bye-bye.

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