Kathy Hilton: Don’t Push Little Hunky Dory

Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Kathy Hilton. She shares the secrets to a happy marriage, the chaos of tracking down Paris and Nicky when they were younger, and how she avoids all the Real Housewives drama. Plus, she reveals how to expertly slide into someone’s DMs, what to get at the Cheesecake Factory, and who tops her list for a celebrity hall pass. Enjoy!

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Alex Cooper?

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• 2:27Alex Cooper?

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• 2:36Alex Cooper?

  Kathy Hilton, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Thank you. Thank you for having me.

• 2:40Alex Cooper?

  Oh my God, I am like honored to be here with you today. You are iconic. You are. Do you know that?

• 2:47Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:47Alex Cooper?

  You know that.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  Well, I feel like that word's thrown around so much.

• 2:51Alex Cooper?

  But it's true. It's really true. Um, did you tell Paris you were coming today?

• 2:55Speaker 03

  Yes. In fact, I was texting with her last night and then she called this morning and I said, do you like her? She goes, I love her.

• 3:07Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Do you call your daughters like before you agree to do something and like ask them their opinion usually or no?

• 3:12Speaker 03

  Yes, I would say yes. When it comes to, I don't do a lot of podcasts. I was, I was in Europe when I got the invitation and so do you know Kate Hudson?

• 3:26Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  Kate's one of my best, best friends. He's like, you are doing this.

• 3:31Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 3:32Speaker 03

  And then my friend Mark Mullet, do you know Mark?

• 3:35Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  He's like, you're doing this. And he was on the boat. I love her. She's great. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So.

• 3:42Alex Cooper?

  So everyone on the boat is like team caller daddy. That's good to know.

• 3:45Speaker 03

  They loved it.

• 3:46Alex Cooper?

  Thank you, guys. Okay, great. Um, okay. So have you ever gone and done something that Nikki and Paris were like, Mom, do not fucking do that. Why are you doing it? And you did it anyways?

• 3:57Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 3:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 3:58Speaker 03

  The Housewives of Beverly Hills.

• 4:02Alex Cooper?

  Oh, really? They weren't into it?

• 4:04Speaker 03

  No.

• 4:05Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 4:06Speaker 03

  No. But you know, for the last few years, the press would say, oh, I'm doing it when, when I wasn't. And so I definitely thought about it, talked about it with my boys, my husband. And they were like, yeah, what the heck? Why not do it?

• 4:22Alex Cooper?

  And why did Paris and Nikki not want you to do it?

• 4:24Speaker 03

  I just, I don't know. I think they just wouldn't want me on a show where there's a lot of drama. Wait, who, me drama?

• 4:33Alex Cooper?

  You? No way.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  So now they love it and they enjoy it and they get a kick out of it.

• 4:39Alex Cooper?

  But at first they were a little nervous. Okay, between Paris and Nikki, who is more likely to raid your closet?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  I would say both. Now, they both have a bigger shoe than I do and smaller dress size, but as far as accessories, whatever is there is theirs.

• 4:56Alex Cooper?

  Is there anything in your closet that you are so particular about that you're like, you cannot touch this one thing?

• 5:02Speaker 03

  You know what? I'm really good like that. Whatever they want to borrow, I'm great. I'm okay. I'm like flattered that they like what I have.

• 5:11Alex Cooper?

  Who is more likely to send drama and like gossip in the family group chat?

• 5:19Speaker 03

  Probably Nikki.

• 5:20Alex Cooper?

  Love it.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  No, I mean Nikki knows what's going on.

• 5:24Alex Cooper?

  Okay. More than Paris?

• 5:26Speaker 03

  Up with everything within the family. Not, she doesn't gossip about other people.

• 5:31Alex Cooper?

  Who is most likely to call you for mom advice?

• 5:36Speaker 03

  Both.

• 5:36Alex Cooper?

  Both?

• 5:37Speaker 03

  Both.

• 5:38Alex Cooper?

  Often?

• 5:39Speaker 03

  Not that often, but when they really need it.

• 5:43Alex Cooper?

  What do you think is like your best trait as a grandmother?

• 5:47Speaker 03

  We were just with my son, Baron and daughter-in-law, Tessa's, the three little ones in Las Vegas and just, we have a good time together.

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Little, the little girl, Milu, and then Caspi and they're like, me want to go with you. I'm gonna go up with your room. So it was cute. We brought them up there and-

• 6:10Alex Cooper?

  Your baby voice is amazing.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  I have lots of voices.

• 6:13Alex Cooper?

  Kathy, wait, pull them out. Be like, hi, I'm Kathy in a couple of your voices.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  Okay, I have a Labubu voice.

• 6:19Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 6:20Speaker 03

  I was gonna bring you a Labubu.

• 6:22Alex Cooper?

  No way.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  Yes. But I thought if I dressed the Labubu, I said, should I bring her a Labubu and I can put some jewelry on it? And a little handbag? She goes, Paris goes, she'll love that. But I figured if I did that, I'd be another 10 minutes late because I'm running around.

• 6:40Alex Cooper?

  Wait, how do you know about Labubus? How did you get into-

• 6:43Speaker 03

  Well, I'm a toy collector.

• 6:45Alex Cooper?

  You are?

• 6:46Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 6:46Alex Cooper?

  Wait, what do you collect? And then we have to go back to your voices.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  Uh, dolls, teddy bears, soldiers.

• 6:55Speaker 03

  I mean, everything you could think of.

• 6:56Alex Cooper?

  How long have you been doing that?

• 6:58Speaker 03

  Since I'm little Barbies.

• 7:01Alex Cooper?

  Does your husband, is he okay with it? Or is he like, this is bordering on hoarding? Like, what is going on?

• 7:06Speaker 03

  No, because I have a toy, like, I have a playroom for the children.

• 7:10Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 7:11Speaker 03

  But a lot of my things are in it, like my doll collections in this dollhouse that lights up.

• 7:16Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  And I enjoy it.

• 7:19Alex Cooper?

  So then you got into Labubus?

• 7:21Speaker 03

  So I got into Labubus. I was in the mall in Las Vegas. And I see all these people and I'm like, and then they have the bigger ones, which I love that kind of fun pop art.

• 7:35Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 7:36Speaker 03

  So, oh, good, you do. Okay.

• 7:38Alex Cooper?

  Water, water?

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Is this real water?

• 7:40Alex Cooper?

  That's real water.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:41Alex Cooper?

  That's real water.

• 7:42Speaker 03

  Okay, great. Oh, I like this class.

• 7:43Alex Cooper?

  That's real water. Thank you.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  So, um, there are like so many people in this little store.

• 7:50Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  And I'm thinking, I can't wait in line. I've got to get going. So I took a picture, took a card, took a picture of everything. And a couple of days later, got home and I left a DM and I got a call back.

• 8:04Alex Cooper?

  Wait, and when you're getting these Labubus and you said you're DMing people, do you often just slide into people's DMs?

• 8:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 8:10Alex Cooper?

  You do?

• 8:11Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm. Who's the? So I called him and he called me back like two hours later.

• 8:16Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 8:17Speaker 03

  And he said, I'm in town and I can come meet with you at your house.

• 8:22Alex Cooper?

  And who is this man again?

• 8:24Speaker 03

  With Labubu.

• 8:25Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  So I'm like, okay. And so Rick's like, are you sure? I mean, what if it's a crazy nut you've got coming into the house, whatever, whatever. So I then canceled and we thought, you know, we'll have him at the party and it'll be the daytime. And they brought all the little accessories, all the little handbags, little glasses, purses, everything.

• 8:51Alex Cooper?

  I'm dying at you just like

• 8:52Speaker 03

  Shoes.

• 8:53Alex Cooper?

  sliding into people's DMs, being like, come on over. And Rick's like, sweetie, you can't just invite random people on Instagram over to the house.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Strangers, exactly.

• 9:01Alex Cooper?

  That's kind of fair. Who's the most random person you've ever DM'd? Or the most famous?

• 9:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't, I mean, it wouldn't necessarily have to be somebody famous. It's if I want something.

• 9:12Alex Cooper?

  You're gonna go for it.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  I'm gonna get my hands on it.

• 9:15Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Kathy, you kind of are known for pranks, I feel like.

• 9:19Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 9:19Alex Cooper?

  Like, you're good at these pranks. Which of your daughters is most likely to engage with you in a prank?

• 9:25Speaker 03

  Both. Paris will get on the phone, actually. Nikki's more the cheerleader in, here, dial this number. But it's never mean spirited.

• 9:35Alex Cooper?

  No, it's fun.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  It's always, and even though it's fun and it's silly, I always call back within 10 minutes because, you know, I don't want them up all night wondering, who is this lunatic that called me?

• 9:49Alex Cooper?

  What do you think is personally one of the best pranks that you've ever pulled off?

• 9:54Speaker 03

  I would say calling a friend of mine. And she is a wonderful mother, but she is not the type that's going to remember the teacher's first name, or last name, or what grade. So I called up and I said that it was Mrs. Morton calling. And we noticed that she were not there at drop off. And we're very, very upset. You had signed up for pizza day and, you know, at the beginning of the year, all the parents sign up back to school night. They sign up for pizza day. Oh, I'll do this. They're, they're gang, gung ho?

• 10:34Alex Cooper?

  Gung ho.

• 10:35Speaker 03

  Gung ho on everything. But of course, she doesn't write any of it down or put it in her calendar. So I said, we had 36, no, we had 18 children here today that went hungry and 36 parents were very upset. So, I mean, I, and I do this whole thing.

• 10:53Alex Cooper?

  And she's like mortified.

• 10:55Speaker 03

  She's completely mortified and just, you know, literally losing it.

• 11:03Alex Cooper?

  So are you using your little like fake voices?

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:08Alex Cooper?

  On these prank calls?

• 11:09Speaker 03

  You were supposed to show up at the carnival and you'd signed up to do the swing along. And we had your name on it and you never showed up. And she goes, oh, I didn't realize that. I said, well, if you'd like, I'd be happy at drop off today to hang, hand out flyers to everybody to let them know that you did go ahead and. Uh, donate. She goes, oh, no, no, that's okay. No, I don't want you to do that. I mean, just like silly things.

• 11:39Alex Cooper?

  And then when you call her, your friends back eventually and tell them are like, they like Kathy, what the fuck?

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 11:44Alex Cooper?

  That's amazing. Okay. You're also known for, it's like a juice with electrolytes.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Oh, we love that.

• 11:50Alex Cooper?

  We love that. That's my drink. Unwell.

• 11:52Speaker 03

  It's really important.

• 11:55Alex Cooper?

  Very important. Kathy, you know what's up.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  I'm very into all of this.

• 11:59Alex Cooper?

  Me too.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  And I won't mention names, but there's one that we have to stay away from. So.

• 12:04Alex Cooper?

  There you go.

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Well, I'm really glad that you have unwell.

• 12:06Alex Cooper?

  Thank you. Me too. And so is the world. Okay. Um, you're also known for throwing great, great, great parties. What it, yeah, yeah. Smile into the camera.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  I hold it like that.

• 12:21Alex Cooper?

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• 12:25Alex Cooper?

  You're a great sponsor. Thanks. What is a non-negotiable for you when you are hosting one of these big parties? Like, what do you have to have?

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, I have to have, I, I don't like making people dress up. Like, oh, the theme is everybody's a, a, a blue party or a pink part, nothing like that. But I just like to have a reason to have the party. I like to have activations. Like we do a health and wellness twice a year and we get the, you know, True Nyogen does, cause I do it every week. We do a drip. So everybody gets to come and have a drip and, you know, massage and tie this. And I have, um, you name it. I mean, everything you could think of, the best of the best, the latest, the greatest.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  Machines for the face.

• 13:22Alex Cooper?

  I want to be friends with you.

• 13:23Speaker 03

  Manicures, pedicures.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  Life coaches.

• 13:29Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 13:30Speaker 03

  Dogs, you can adopt a dog. It's just, and we play folk music.

• 13:34Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 13:35Speaker 03

  And we've got big blankets out and pillows and people bring their children, their dogs.

• 13:40Alex Cooper?

  Wow.

• 13:40Speaker 03

  It's just a really cool day. Healthy food. Handmade soaps, like beautiful things.

• 13:47Alex Cooper?

  And then do these parties ever then turn into like ragers?

• 13:52Speaker 03

  Um, only Christmas.

• 13:54Alex Cooper?

  Okay, Christmas.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Christmas does.

• 13:56Alex Cooper?

  Have you ever had to throw someone out of a party?

• 14:00Speaker 03

  No, I just disappear.

• 14:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  Cause I think that's rude. And I, I have enough security there that they're watching everything.

• 14:10Alex Cooper?

  So maybe are you the, you're gonna like whisper to them, but then you're gonna kind of like leave and then they'll handle it.

• 14:17Speaker 03

  Exactly. Well, they're actually having so much fun and they're like, oh, I'll have some scrambled eggs now. I'll have another glass of, give me a Bellini. They're there until four in the morning.

• 14:27Alex Cooper?

  Okay, but I've heard that you have a members only club for certain guests after a party. You keep people at your house.

• 14:35Speaker 03

  I keep, I kidnapped them.

• 14:37Alex Cooper?

  You kidnapped them?

• 14:38Speaker 03

  And it's behind closed doors.

• 14:41Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 14:41Speaker 03

  It's in the library. There is a line. There literally is standing room only. I have bought like 16 little uh stools, like little pull-ups like this.

• 14:53Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh.

• 14:54Speaker 03

  And it's like, I have like Andy Cohen's, like I have like the clubhouse.

• 15:00Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  And then I have the big L sofa and we've got the phones going and then you'll call people.

• 15:08Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  And yes.

• 15:09Alex Cooper?

  You're prank calling?

• 15:10Speaker 03

  Prank calling people, telling stories. I mean, just lots of fun.

• 15:15Alex Cooper?

  And what does it take to get invited to the after members only club?

• 15:20Speaker 03

  It's just really close friends that are gonna participate. You know, that, that have, that have some contacts.

• 15:28Alex Cooper?

  Oh, right. So you're recruiting based on like,

• 15:31Speaker 03

  You gotta give me some of your numbers. But then it's fun because then everybody in the beginning is like, Hmm. And then it's like the karaoke. Nobody wants to do it. And then before you know, wait, call this person.

• 15:44Alex Cooper?

  And then it starts rolling.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Call this person. Exactly. Now you gotta block my phone number and it's hysterical.

• 15:50Alex Cooper?

  Wait, that is so fun because I feel like I remember doing star six, seven. When I was younger in high school with my friends and we would do this. But then I just gave up on it because I don't know. I guess like I forgot.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  I believe that star six nine was invented because of me. I'm not kidding you.

• 16:07Alex Cooper?

  You've been doing this for a while.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  I've been doing this for a long time.

• 16:11Alex Cooper?

  Did you do it with your sisters when you were younger?

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:14Alex Cooper?

  Okay. So this has been a part of your life forever.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:17Alex Cooper?

  But now do you worry that people are going to catch on to you because you do it so often?

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Um, no. No.

• 16:41Alex Cooper?

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• 19:35Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's talk about Real Housewives. We got to circle back.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 19:38Alex Cooper?

  You mentioned that your daughters were like, "Mother, no." And then you ended up doing it. What made you want to join? Because if your daughters are like, "Mom, don't do it."

• 19:48Speaker 03

  But you know what? It's okay for them to do things, but it was during COVID. I was bored and Kyle and I had been kind of separated. And let me tell you, she works very hard. It's a lot of work as a, as a housewife. You are busy filming for four months, then you're doing promotion and press for two months. Then you're getting ready for the reunion. I mean, it's, it's a lot. So it was fun way to spend time with her. And also, you know, it's a great platform to be able to, to do a lot of things.

• 20:28Alex Cooper?

  Were you hesitant at all about not having control of people filming you and being on reality TV?

• 20:36Speaker 03

  No, because I've been around it so long.

• 20:38Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  I really have. So I don't, you don't even think about, like, none of the girls even think about the camera being there. You don't even think about it.

• 20:47Alex Cooper?

  How do you think the show impacted you and Kyle's relationship by you doing it?

• 20:54Speaker 03

  We were like little girls again and having fun and laughing and just, I mean, I pulled some pranks on her.

• 21:02Alex Cooper?

  Yes, you did.

• 21:02Speaker 03

  And, you know, the fake martini and getting into bed with her and annoying her. Because I love to annoy her, get a rise out of her.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  We just laughed and had a really good time.

• 21:15Alex Cooper?

  And I know, obviously, like, I feel like the world has known just because also of the show that you guys have had a lot of ups and downs. Like, how do you, what do you think it took for you guys to get?

• 21:24Speaker 03

  I will say that it all gets exaggerated too. I mean, it really, I'll read things four hours ago. Kathy and Kyle are still not getting along. What?

• 21:40Alex Cooper?

  It's also like sisters. I feel like I have a sister, so I know how it goes with sisters. And we can fight like no other. And then, but she's like my person in this world. She's my best friend. So it's like, we can, I fight with her like I wouldn't with a friend.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Right.

• 21:57Alex Cooper?

  But then it's my blood. So I'm always coming back to her.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  You know that we never, we never did. And it's interesting, on this last reunion,

• 22:07Speaker 03

  I said to the girls on this side, I said, all right, wait a second. I want to say one thing right now. And I'm going to whisper to all of you girls, how many times we have had a fight in our lives? And I went like this, you know, three. I said, Kyle, how many times have we had a disagreement? She said, three. You can watch it. So we're not fighters.

• 22:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. I think one of the major issues that everyone saw was between you and Kyle was really just the tension between your husband and her ex Mauricio. Do you have any advice for people listening and watching that have not the most perfect relationship with their siblings partner?

• 22:53Speaker 03

  I think that got taken out of context a little bit, too.

• 23:01Speaker 03

  You know, I like Maurice. I wish him, I wish him the best. And we had a lot of good times together.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  And, um,

• 23:13Speaker 03

  you know, he's the father of my nieces and I love my nieces. All of our children are like siblings.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  And it's really sweet.

• 23:25Alex Cooper?

  Do you think that situation, like, would you want Kyle to get back with Mauricio ever? Or are you like happy for her now where she's at?

• 23:33Speaker 03

  I would want whatever she would, you know, it would make me, of course, it would put a smile on my face. I, I don't like change. I like everybody, you know, I, and I don't care how old your children are. It hurts. It doesn't matter if they're five or if they're 25.

• 23:55Alex Cooper?

  Do you think you would ever join Real Housewives full-time?

• 23:58Speaker 03

  No, that I've said that and I will, I couldn't.

• 24:01Alex Cooper?

  Why?

• 24:02Speaker 03

  Because I'm, I have my husband, I have my children, my grandchildren, I have other businesses, and I would no way be able to devote the time.

• 24:11Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  I love the job I have. I can come in, I really, really have a good time with all the girls. It's like a little girls' club.

• 24:20Alex Cooper?

  It's a lot of drama, though.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  You know, when I'm there, I try to make it, I try to have the parties and the fun.

• 24:30Alex Cooper?

  But are you like that in your normal life? Like you don't want to be a part of drama?

• 24:34Speaker 03

  No.

• 24:35Alex Cooper?

  But I feel like you'd be good in drama. Like if someone comes at you.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  Uh, let me tell you something. If little hunky-dory gets pushed, but I don't want to get pushed.

• 24:47Speaker 03

  And I try my hardest just to keep the peace.

• 24:53Alex Cooper?

  How many times a year do you think you get pushed?

• 24:56Speaker 03

  Not that often.

• 24:58Alex Cooper?

  Mm-hmm. And when you get pushed?

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Don't push me.

• 25:06Alex Cooper?

  I feel like you're someone that's like, could be really powerful with her words.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  No, I'm joking. Um, I'm really a very sensitive person. I'm a Pisces.

• 25:15Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 25:16Speaker 03

  I can cry easily. Uh, both my girls are that way, too.

• 25:21Alex Cooper?

  Oh my God, I'm obsessed with hunky-dory. Um, okay, you obviously don't have a tagline, but let's come up with it right now. What would your Real Housewives tagline be?

• 25:32Speaker 03

  I may be the hostess with the mostess, but I don't serve drama.

• 25:38Alex Cooper?

  Boom!

• 25:38Speaker 03

  Only diamonds and caviar. Or La Boo Boo's.

• 25:45Alex Cooper?

  Wait, that's good.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  That's good, right?

• 25:47Alex Cooper?

  Kathy!

• 25:48Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 25:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, maybe you have to be full time for two seconds just so that we can get you spinning and we see you saying that.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  I would be spinning and falling in high heels.

• 25:57Alex Cooper?

  You'd look gorgeous doing it. Okay, I'm gonna ask you some Real Housewives rapid fire and you're just gonna say whatever comes to your mind.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 26:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who gives the best advice?

• 26:06Speaker 03

  I think I do, because I have the most experience.

• 26:09Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who's the most high maintenance?

• 26:11Speaker 03

  Well, you know, on reality TV, I don't think you get much of a chance to be high maintenance.

• 26:16Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 26:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:18Alex Cooper?

  You're just bringing whatever in your closet.

• 26:19Speaker 03

  I'm bringing whatever fits.

• 26:21Alex Cooper?

  And your fishnets.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  And my fishnets.

• 26:24Alex Cooper?

  They look cute, trendy.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Cause my, well, Paris wears them. And I got that from her because I don't want to have orange legs.

• 26:31Alex Cooper?

  Oh, is that what she does?

• 26:33Speaker 03

  And you can do this so that you don't have to do the spray tan. I am really pale.

• 26:38Alex Cooper?

  Me too.

• 26:39Speaker 03

  Are you?

• 26:39Alex Cooper?

  But I do the spray tan.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  And I get hot.

• 26:42Alex Cooper?

  Me too.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  So these breathe.

• 26:46Alex Cooper?

  Wait.

• 26:46Speaker 03

  I just bought an Eyelet blazer. I'm waiting to see, have you heard of Sheen? Shin? S H I E N.

• 26:56Alex Cooper?

  Kathy.

• 26:57Speaker 03

  It's like $22. But it looks good. And it's got Eyelet, so I'm thinking I'll breathe in this.

• 27:05Alex Cooper?

  Wait, I'm gonna start crying. First of all,

• 27:11Alex Cooper?

  what did you just say you bought?

• 27:12Speaker 03

  An Eyelet.

• 27:14Alex Cooper?

  What is that?

• 27:14Speaker 03

  Do you know what Eyelet is?

• 27:15Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  It's like little circle, like it's little, like a flower, cutouts.

• 27:20Alex Cooper?

  And you bought an Eyelet blazer from Sheen, Kathy Hilton?

• 27:26Alex Cooper?

  You need to call Paris right now. And we need to call her right now and tell her this. Do you have your phone?

• 27:31Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, let's get the phone. Um, you know who will have it? Is that my phone?

• 27:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay, call Paris.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 27:38Alex Cooper?

  And tell her, we're on air, and you need to tell her what you just told me. Hello? Paris.

• 27:45Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, say hi.

• 27:49Alex Cooper?

  We're recording right now. You need to listen. I'm in the middle of the interview with your mother and I go, oh, we're talking about something and she goes, you know what I just, do you, have you ever heard of Sheen or Shein? And I'm like, yes. And she goes, I just bought a blazer from there. And it's this, what is it? What is it, Kathy?

• 28:08Speaker 03

  It's Eyelet.

• 28:09Alex Cooper?

  It's Eyelet?

• 28:10Speaker 03

  Well, we were talking about, I like these because they have holes. So the fishnets, Paris, that you got me wearing. Yeah. So I don't have orange legs and my, I can breathe because of the fishnets.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  Yes. And so I bought an Eyelet blazer for $22. You know what Eyelet is, don't you?

• 28:33Alex Cooper?

  Paris says, that's hot. Okay, we love you, Paris.

• 28:52Alex Cooper?

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• 30:21Speaker 03

  Sutton.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  Erica.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Dorit's a lot of fun. Rachel Zoe, I love Rachel. She's a great pal. She's like part of the family. She's coming on. So we're going to Sedona tomorrow.

• 30:34Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  So I'm thinking that could be the worst trip.

• 30:38Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  Because it's gonna be boiling.

• 30:41Alex Cooper?

  Right. Are you gonna bring your fishnets?

• 30:44Speaker 03

  No, I'm not bringing any fishnets.

• 30:46Alex Cooper?

  What are you gonna wear?

• 30:47Speaker 03

  I don't know. That, I'm really wondering, how am I gonna get around?

• 30:51Alex Cooper?

  We need flowy and we need

• 30:53Speaker 03

  I know.

• 30:54Alex Cooper?

  big hats.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Yes, but then my hat, my, my head gets hot.

• 30:58Alex Cooper?

  What if you did one of those from Amazon where you clip it so the top of your head is exposed, but you get a little shade?

• 31:04Speaker 03

  Oh, a visor. The, the, the girls get very angry when I wear a visor.

• 31:09Alex Cooper?

  The girls is in your daughters or the housewives?

• 31:11Speaker 03

  My girls.

• 31:12Alex Cooper?

  Oh, they don't like it?

• 31:13Speaker 03

  No.

• 31:13Alex Cooper?

  I could see Paris Hilton being like, absolutely don't wear a fucking visor, mom.

• 31:17Speaker 03

  And Nikki does that too. She's just, mom, please, that's so beyond.

• 31:20Alex Cooper?

  But maybe, maybe you need to do that in Sedona.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Oh, I live in visors.

• 31:25Alex Cooper?

  You do?

• 31:26Speaker 03

  Well, I like it because they're tight right here.

• 31:28Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 31:29Speaker 03

  And if you're like, I wear them even all the time because like if I'm by myself, I'm shy or whatever. You don't have to make eye contact.

• 31:40Alex Cooper?

  We're keeping it close.

• 31:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 31:42Alex Cooper?

  What is a fashion absolutely no for you?

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Fashion no for me would be leggings.

• 31:50Alex Cooper?

  Really?

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:52Alex Cooper?

  What about them?

• 31:53Speaker 03

  I don't like, I like with a little bit of, uh, I don't like the jeans like that look like they're sprayed on. I like a tight fit. The new jeans I'm loving are mousy. Have you seen mousy?

• 32:06Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 32:07Speaker 03

  Vintage?

• 32:07Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  I think it's the best jean going right now.

• 32:09Alex Cooper?

  Okay, so we went a little bit off the leg, not spray paint.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  Right.

• 32:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  Because it gives a good shape to the leg.

• 32:16Alex Cooper?

  Mm-hmm. Love that. Um, Kris Jenner has made some appearances on the show. Do you think she'd ever join the cast?

• 32:23Speaker 03

  I would love it if she did, but I doubt it.

• 32:25Alex Cooper?

  I know.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  You know?

• 32:26Alex Cooper?

  That would be so iconic.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  It would be.

• 32:29Alex Cooper?

  It would be iconic.

• 32:30Speaker 03

  We would have a lot of fun.

• 32:31Alex Cooper?

  Can you explain to me how the Hiltons and the Kardashians initially met and became friends?

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Well, Chris and I were friends.

• 32:39Alex Cooper?

  For how long?

• 32:40Speaker 03

  Oh, years. When the girls were little girls.

• 32:44Alex Cooper?

  Oh, okay. How did you guys meet?

• 32:46Speaker 03

  We had done some charity things together. And so Kaitlyn and Chris and Rick and I, we would go on trips together and go to New York and Las Vegas and you name it. And the four of us and a couple other people would hang out, go down to the desert. Really very, very close. And the kids became close. And then they kind of, you know, at a certain age, they go off and do their thing. So I called Chris one day and I said, Paris is starting this TV show and she needs somebody that can be with her and organize her.

• 33:26Speaker 03

  And I thought it would be a great opportunity for Kim and Paris to have fun together. But, you know, I know that she'll make sure Paris gets here on time and I just wanted Paris to have someone. So we kind of set up this playdate and she said, I love it. So the girls ran around the world together and had a blast.

• 33:47Alex Cooper?

  Oh, that is like, because now you know, obviously, like, that's what changed everything for everyone. Like, then it all just became. And then these are, these two women are like the most famous women in the world.

• 33:58Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 33:59Alex Cooper?

  Um, when I interviewed Nicole Richie, she said that she and Paris were obviously inseparable growing up.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. So cute.

• 34:06Alex Cooper?

  What was the most chaotic situation those girls ever got you into?

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Well, we were in Las Vegas and Rick gets a call from the police department that they had snuck out.

• 34:20Alex Cooper?

  Oh, we did.

• 34:20Speaker 03

  And they were in Las Vegas on the strip. And

• 34:27Speaker 03

  so, I mean, Rick was furious.

• 34:29Alex Cooper?

  How did you feel?

• 34:31Speaker 03

  I was like, I mean, they were young. They weren't doing anything wrong. They were probably like 11. But sneaking out, they just wanted to go and, you know, they went and bought those big straws and the I was like, oh, my God. Or bring, or go into the pet store.

• 34:48Speaker 03

  What they would do is they'd have lemonade stands. We used to have a house in Malibu, in the colony, which is a very safe street. It's off the Pacific Coast Highway. So they'd make cookies and lemonade and iced tea and whatever. And they'd make these signs and you have to drive very slow in there. So you have a captive audience. And they'd run up to people's cars. And of course, the people stopped. So they made a lot of money. So they would take their bikes across the highway and go to the pet store, come back with a cat, a dog. I mean, this is a long time ago.

• 35:25Alex Cooper?

  That's what like, Nicole literally at one point had like a snake, like a rat, like they had all, yes. Wait, were you wild growing up?

• 35:35Speaker 03

  No, no, not at all.

• 35:39Alex Cooper?

  Where do you think the girls got it from?

• 35:41Speaker 03

  I don't know. I was not at all.

• 35:45Alex Cooper?

  I'm picturing you when you get these calls, because I know eventually.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  I mean, I snuck and had a couple cigarettes. We'd go to Westwood Village. And I remember going in the alley, because I used to go to this place called Woody's to play pinball.

• 36:00Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 36:01Speaker 03

  Because I was a pinball wizard.

• 36:03Alex Cooper?

  Oh, Kathy.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  And I was a show off. And, you know, I'd have my little bike and do little wheelies and, oh, yeah. So I'd rub pickles all over my fingers to get the smell of the cigarette off.

• 36:16Alex Cooper?

  Did that work? Okay, see, you were, you had, you had the awareness, like you knew how to get through, like, okay, I can't have my parents know.

• 36:25Speaker 03

  From A to C.

• 36:25Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh. So.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  But I never wanted to, like, I just wasn't.

• 36:32Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  I didn't have it in me to want to, I had a lot of fun, though.

• 36:36Alex Cooper?

  Obviously, there was so much that went on of you getting calls, wondering where Paris was in moments in the chaos of like, her teens and her twenties. But now that she's a mother, how has your relationship with her evolved?

• 36:50Speaker 03

  I mean, I am so proud of her. I'm proud of all of my children. And she went through a lot. And it, and it breaks my heart. But I have to tell you, I am.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  Literally bursting with pride and parents out there, you will get through it. Every cell in her body of all my, all my children, I am proud of them and I love them and they're my everything and my grandchildren and my husband feels the same way. They're our life.

• 37:26Alex Cooper?

  Let's talk about your husband, your relationship. You guys met when you were 15.

• 37:31Speaker 03

  I was 15, he was 19.

• 37:33Alex Cooper?

  What attracted you to him?

• 37:35Speaker 03

  He looked like a blonde surfer.

• 37:37Alex Cooper?

  How did you, where did you meet?

• 37:39Speaker 03

  We met through a friend. And um, he was going to school in Denver, so he'd kind of go back and forth.

• 37:48Alex Cooper?

  You guys got married when you were 20?

• 37:50Speaker 03

  19.

• 37:51Alex Cooper?

  19.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  I had parents at 20.

• 37:52Alex Cooper?

  Oh my God. Okay. Wait, how did you know you were ready for marriage?

• 37:56Speaker 03

  We had gone on this ski vacation to Lake Tahoe. And when it was time to leave and to go back, he was going to go to New York to go work for an investment banking firm. So we are lying in bed watching The Flintstones.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  Okay? And he looks at me and he goes, you know, we need to pack up and everything. We'd been there for a while. And he said, we need to go home and tell, you know, your parents and my parents that we're going to be getting married. That's how he told me.

• 38:33Alex Cooper?

  What was your reaction?

• 38:37Speaker 03

  I just remember driving back in this pickup truck to LA with him. And he dropped me at my house. And he said, I'm going to go home and take a shower and then come back and pick you up. And I remember holding on to him and just like

• 38:55Speaker 03

  starting to cry. I don't want you to leave. Like not even for a minute.

• 39:00Alex Cooper?

  And it's been what 45 years of marriage?

• 39:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:04Alex Cooper?

  How do you think over the 45 years you guys have grown together?

• 39:09Speaker 03

  I think it's just

• 39:13Speaker 03

  I don't have one regret.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  I don't have one regard. I really believe that God was, I really have angels there because it, you know, coming from a divorced family, I never wanted that. And I think that the girls really take that seriously, you know? They really respected and they waited. They wanted to have, find the right person.

• 39:43Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's really beautiful.

• 39:44Speaker 03

  And my boys as well, because a lot of their friends

• 39:50Speaker 03

  were, their parents were divorced. And when I was little, there wasn't as much of that. And I almost felt shameful, like, that might sound strange.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  But it bothered me.

• 40:05Alex Cooper?

  I think that's normal. I think a lot of people, if you come from divorced family, you're like, I want to do it different. Or if you have parents that stayed together, then you have the pressure of like, I need to have that too. Like, you're always kind of comparing yourself to what your parents had or didn't have. So I can see where Nikki and Paris are probably like, oh, my God, we're looking up to this beautiful 45 year relationship.

• 40:26Speaker 03

  Which is so sweet that they see that.

• 40:28Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 40:29Speaker 03

  And that they say that to us.

• 40:32Alex Cooper?

  Do you have any advice for people who are watching that are looking to have a long lasting relationship? Like, what does it take to have a long relationship and a marriage?

• 40:43Speaker 03

  I think it takes a lot of give and take.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  You know, the old cliche, don't ever go to sleep mad. I think try to spend as much quality time together and to keep the right influences around. Like, you don't want to have a couple around that's fighting or, you know, the guy's watching the football game and, oh, look at the cheerleader, she's so cute. Like, if that was done with me, that guy would never be in my house again when I was younger.

• 41:16Alex Cooper?

  I love that. I love that, Kathy. Like, I think, I think you're right. I do think it's like, sometimes you can look at friends around you and be like, oh, well, at least that's not our relationship. But if you're allowing it to seep into you and you're

• 41:29Speaker 03

  And it becomes, it becomes acceptable.

• 41:34Speaker 03

  And you have to learn to keep it exciting. And a little mystery.

• 41:40Alex Cooper?

  Oh, how do we do that?

• 41:46Speaker 03

  And men don't want to hear a lot of gossip complaining. You really have to. Or your partner, whoever your partner is.

• 41:56Alex Cooper?

  Okay, let's talk about the Cheesecake Factory. Because.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  What, the Cheesecake Factory? Oh, my God.

• 42:04Alex Cooper?

  I've heard that you and your husband have been spotted at the Cheesecake Factory. And you guys kind of love to go on date nights there. Is that true?

• 42:13Speaker 03

  We will go there once a month.

• 42:15Alex Cooper?

  Once a month?

• 42:16Speaker 03

  Hmm, well, every couple of months.

• 42:17Alex Cooper?

  Do you have a membership, like a card?

• 42:19Speaker 03

  No.

• 42:20Alex Cooper?

  You're like, but can I get one?

• 42:21Speaker 03

  They should give me one of those things where you snap it. Yeah. No, they don't even give me a piece of cheesecake.

• 42:29Alex Cooper?

  How did, how did this become like a go to?

• 42:32Speaker 03

  He likes the wings there.

• 42:34Alex Cooper?

  And what do you like there?

• 42:35Speaker 03

  The buffalo wings. And I like the meatloaf. I like the omelet. And then they have a Monte Cristo on brunch for brunch.

• 42:46Alex Cooper?

  What is a Monte Cristo?

• 42:47Speaker 03

  Monte Cristo is a deep fried, like a croque monsieur.

• 42:51Alex Cooper?

  Oh.

• 42:51Speaker 03

  With ham and cheese and like French toast and then powdered sugar and syrup.

• 43:00Alex Cooper?

  They've got great brunch.

• 43:01Speaker 03

  And the best brown bread.

• 43:03Alex Cooper?

  So good.

• 43:05Speaker 03

  And my husband loves cheesecake. So we bring our dog.

• 43:08Alex Cooper?

  You, you do?

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Our dogs go to dinner with us everywhere. And the one dog, there's something about that place. The dog wants to go over and sit with the people next to us. And we're on a, on a, you know, banquet.

• 43:23Alex Cooper?

  Right.

• 43:24Speaker 03

  So the dog will go and put and sit there and put his little head on their lap.

• 43:28Alex Cooper?

  I love that for your dog. That's fun.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  I know. Is that cute? I'm like, come back here, Moda.

• 43:33Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, on the show, you revealed that you don't sext Rick, but you have some steamy pictures locked in your safety deposit box at the bank.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 43:43Alex Cooper?

  What is the story behind these pictures?

• 43:46Speaker 03

  He wanted to take those pictures when we were younger and we were in Miami. And there was a mirror on the ceiling. So of course, but it's very tasteful. I got into a very cute little position and you can't, you know, just like the little side of my butt showing.

• 44:09Alex Cooper?

  And so they're in the bank.

• 44:11Speaker 03

  They're in the bank.

• 44:13Alex Cooper?

  Not your house safe?

• 44:14Speaker 03

  No, I moved everything out like five, six years ago.

• 44:19Alex Cooper?

  Just in case.

• 44:20Speaker 03

  Just, well, yeah, why?

• 44:21Alex Cooper?

  Is there any other like interesting things like that in the box?

• 44:24Speaker 03

  No.

• 44:25Alex Cooper?

  No, just those photos.

• 44:26Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 44:27Alex Cooper?

  And since they're in the box, do you think Rick ever goes to the bank to look at the pictures? Are they just there for?

• 44:34Speaker 03

  No, they're, I don't think he's over at the bank.

• 44:36Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Okay, that's so fair.

• 44:55Alex Cooper?

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• 46:21Alex Cooper?

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• 46:53Speaker 03

  Um, it's kind of hard to do that. I don't like saying no.

• 47:00Alex Cooper?

  I know.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  So I'll say to my husband, "Rick, can't you tell them?" And he'll go, "No, you have to learn to do that." I go, "We've been married 45 years. If I haven't learned it by now..." It's so easy, because he's blunt. He is very blunt, and it's very easy to say no. But for me, it's hard. So I usually don't say no, and I go...

• 47:23Alex Cooper?

  You go or you use Rick, and he'll say no.

• 47:25Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 47:26Alex Cooper?

  Um, okay, what has been your biggest slip-up on social media?

• 47:31Speaker 03

  Okay, when I first started, there was a catastrophe somewhere, a tragedy, and I

• 47:40Speaker 03

  put LOL, and I meant love. I meant something, I don't remember what it was.

• 47:47Alex Cooper?

  Lots of love? Lots of love, yeah.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  Something like that, but it was...

• 47:52Alex Cooper?

  Laugh out loud.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  But everybody knew that it was new to me, and I was forgiven.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Can you imagine? And I by mistake, put out my phone number and put out a text on my story, or on my page, something like that. Yeah. I don't know. I get these, I get into these mixups.

• 48:21Alex Cooper?

  And is it like, your daughter's calling you, be like, Mom?

• 48:25Speaker 03

  Yes, they get mad.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  I also paged them.

• 48:30Alex Cooper?

  You paged them?

• 48:31Speaker 03

  I used to page them. And people were very helpful. They didn't get mad at me. A few people said, you use this as a, like it's your answering machine, or these are all your Insta secretaries, or whatever. But I would page them and I'd say, please, please help me to get Paris or Nikki to call me right away. And so their phones start blowing up.

• 48:57Alex Cooper?

  Wait, and who are you paging?

• 48:59Speaker 03

  The girls, because they're not answering their phone.

• 49:01Alex Cooper?

  We, and who, and you're paging people to get the girls to answer their phone?

• 49:04Speaker 03

  On Twitter.

• 49:05Alex Cooper?

  On Twitter?

• 49:06Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:07Alex Cooper?

  Kathy, you're on Twitter?

• 49:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:11Alex Cooper?

  That's what you mean by paging?

• 49:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 49:14Speaker 03

  And I get all, I put at all Little Hiltons. And there's like, millions of Little Hiltons.

• 49:19Alex Cooper?

  Wait, wait, wait.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  So the phones are just blowing up and going off and...

• 49:23Alex Cooper?

  You're tweeting?

• 49:25Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:25Alex Cooper?

  At all the Hiltons?

• 49:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 49:27Alex Cooper?

  Like Paris's fans?

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 49:29Alex Cooper?

  Can you get in touch with my daughter?

• 49:31Speaker 03

  And have her call me right away.

• 49:35Speaker 03

  And when I lived in New York, I used to call, I figured out, I'd call the New York Post, and I'll never, I'd say, how do I find out? So he'd answer City Desk, and it would be 12:30 at night, and I'd say, do you know where Paris Hilton is right now? But I became friends with him. He said, uh, hold on ma'am. And I think he began to feel sorry for me. So he said, she just left, um...

• 50:06Speaker 03

  What is it? Bar eight or?

• 50:07Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  What a bungalow eight?

• 50:09Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 50:10Speaker 03

  Uh, she was seen at 1229 and I believe she just walked into whatever because they would track them because of the paparazzi.

• 50:21Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  So they'd know exactly, but how nice that that man.

• 50:26Alex Cooper?

  He had your back.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  And if he's listening, yes.

• 50:28Alex Cooper?

  Thank you.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  And I was like, thank you so much.

• 50:31Alex Cooper?

  I'm dying at you tweeting and you call it paging. That's amazing.

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Paging.

• 50:37Alex Cooper?

  Tweeting. Same thing.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  Same thing.

• 50:39Alex Cooper?

  Same thing. Okay. What is the most embarrassing thing you've done after too many martinis?

• 50:45Speaker 03

  And I would say probably inviting people to go and do something or go on a trip or go down to the desert the following, like that weekend. And then I'm thinking, oh my God, how am I going to get out of this? Something like that. Like you're all excited and it all sounds good.

• 51:02Alex Cooper?

  Do you do that often?

• 51:04Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 51:04Alex Cooper?

  No. But on your third martini, you're.

• 51:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 51:08Alex Cooper?

  Hey, you want to go to Palm Springs together?

• 51:09Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 51:10Alex Cooper?

  You don't even know their last name.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 51:13Alex Cooper?

  Okay. What is a story you've tried to get killed in the media?

• 51:18Speaker 03

  Let me tell you something. What I've learned is

• 51:26Speaker 03

  there is not one person that could say that I've ever played ball with them.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  One person, because once you start,

• 51:39Speaker 03

  I would never want anyone to have that on me.

• 51:43Speaker 03

  I actually, years ago, I met with Richard Johnson.

• 51:47Alex Cooper?

  Who's that?

• 51:48Speaker 03

  He was the head guy at Page Six and I said, my husband and I would like to meet with you. And we met at our club doubles at like four o'clock in the afternoon, the Sherry Netherland. And he came down and he was doing his job, whatever, but it was, I said, this is becoming harassment.

• 52:13Speaker 03

  And it's not fair. One day you'll have children. And what if this was your daughter? Because you know, you would see a store, some little schmuck promoter, club promoter, and then they tie it to a model. Then they tie it to the restaurant and you'll see five or six names and make up something. And sometimes the things could be true. And sometimes the good things that they say aren't true. But it was a daily, it was every single day. And I said, this feels like stalking.

• 52:57Speaker 03

  This has got to stop.

• 52:59Alex Cooper?

  I mean, that's pretty like commendable that you can sit here and be like, I've never, because I know, obviously, in like the heyday of like Paris with paparazzi, like it probably was easier, maybe in someone's mind at some point to be like, can we just pay these people off to stop? And the fact that you were like-

• 53:15Speaker 03

  You don't ever want to do that because then they own you. I came from a place of

• 53:23Speaker 03

  person to person. Like, this is beyond.

• 53:27Alex Cooper?

  Yeah.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  This is not fair. I have three other children. You know, my husband and I, we're trying to live our life and this is-

• 53:35Alex Cooper?

  Do you feel like it worked? Like, did he let up a little?

• 53:39Speaker 03

  I don't know.

• 53:41Alex Cooper?

  But good for your conscience.

• 53:42Speaker 03

  It was almost like living in The Wizard of Oz with the little witch and the broomstick just following you around, like knowing, like, and coming up with things. You know, they get calls. I wish that a source saying, the source, really? Well, we need to say who the source is.

• 54:03Alex Cooper?

  I agree with that. If it's a source, then say the name of the source.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:08Alex Cooper?

  That should be a new rule.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  Right?

• 54:09Alex Cooper?

  Let's put that into-

• 54:11Speaker 03

  Let's put that into motion.

• 54:12Alex Cooper?

  Yeah. Let's go, Kathy.

• 54:13Speaker 03

  I'm taking that to Washington.

• 54:17Alex Cooper?

  Okay, who is your celebrity hall pass?

• 54:19Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 54:21Alex Cooper?

  What do you mean?

• 54:23Speaker 03

  What do you mean by that?

• 54:24Alex Cooper?

  Kathy.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  A hall pass? Like a crush?

• 54:29Speaker 03

  A hall pass?

• 54:30Alex Cooper?

  If you in another world.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 54:34Alex Cooper?

  Could, you wouldn't actually, like, it's fun, like, oh, who is your hall pass? Like, who would you sleep with if not your husband? And not even like that, like, who's your guy? You know what I mean? Like, who would be your celebrity hall pass?

• 54:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 54:48Alex Cooper?

  Okay, a crush, let's say your crush.

• 54:50Speaker 03

  Um, only one.

• 54:54Speaker 03

  If I didn't know my husband.

• 54:56Alex Cooper?

  If, yeah, your husband doesn't even exist.

• 54:59Speaker 03

  And, you know, I was younger.

• 55:01Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  I'm just gonna give an initial.

• 55:04Alex Cooper?

  How the fuck am I gonna find that out? Okay, give me an initial.

• 55:10Speaker 03

  I'm embarrassed.

• 55:11Alex Cooper?

  Don't be.

• 55:14Alex Cooper?

  Be.

• 55:14Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 55:17Alex Cooper?

  We sit here for an hour?

• 55:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:19Alex Cooper?

  Brad Pitt.

• 55:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:22Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God, don't be embarrassed. Okay, have you ever Irish goodbye your own party to go to bed?

• 55:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 55:29Alex Cooper?

  How often are you doing that? If you're having five parties, how many times are you doing that?

• 55:33Speaker 03

  Well, during the holidays, I have five or six, so I will do it. You know, when it starts getting really late, because I go up and I change like this. When people are still there, all dressed up, but I'm, you know, I slide into the members, the library. You have to come over to the library sometime.

• 55:55Alex Cooper?

  I mean, I'd be honored for the invite.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  Wouldn't that be fun?

• 55:58Alex Cooper?

  I promise I'll bring my.

• 56:00Speaker 03

  Bring your Rolodex.

• 56:01Alex Cooper?

  Bring my Rolodex, Kathy.

• 56:03Speaker 03

  Bring your phone with you.

• 56:04Alex Cooper?

  I'll bring it, I'll bring it. Um, okay, have you ever texted the wrong person something shady about them? Oh.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  Or, or said something?

• 56:15Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 56:15Speaker 03

  And there, well, it happened to me like yesterday.

• 56:19Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  I am saying that we have to tell this girl to move it along and we gotta land the plane. And. I didn't realize, because I was getting my hair washed, that she was standing right there.

• 56:35Alex Cooper?

  No.

• 56:35Speaker 03

  And I love her, but I'm like, we gotta explain to her, we gotta move this along, we gotta land the plane, you know?

• 56:41Alex Cooper?

  Who are you saying that to?

• 56:43Speaker 03

  To my hairdresser.

• 56:46Alex Cooper?

  And the woman was sitting right there.

• 56:49Speaker 03

  Right. So I was like-

• 56:50Alex Cooper?

  You're like Patricia.

• 56:52Speaker 03

  But then I go, you know Labine? And she's like, Labine? I go, yes, Labine.

• 56:58Alex Cooper?

  Because you're just trying to like, we, and so did you pretend you weren't talking about her?

• 57:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I get into a whole big thing to mix it up.

• 57:06Alex Cooper?

  Right, we were just talking about how-

• 57:07Speaker 03

  You know Labine, remember Labine? And she's like, I feel like I've heard that a lot. And I'm like, yeah.

• 57:13Alex Cooper?

  That's who we're talking about.

• 57:14Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 57:15Alex Cooper?

  Don't you agree? And she's like, but you just said my name. You're like, because I saw you standing over me and I wanted you to join the conversation.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  Sometimes we will refer to people, Paris will do the same thing too, like a jewel.

• 57:24Alex Cooper?

  Wait, are you saying like, so that you give them like a code name?

• 57:27Speaker 03

  The guy is a jewel.

• 57:30Alex Cooper?

  A jewel.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  Like he's not great. He's not cute.

• 57:32Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  Right?

• 57:33Alex Cooper?

  So we're calling them a, so you call him what?

• 57:36Speaker 03

  A jewel.

• 57:37Alex Cooper?

  Okay. And that's what you call everyone that you are talking about?

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, and the girls do too. So we, and they're friends. So we know what we're talking, they know what I mean.

• 57:47Alex Cooper?

  But it's code.

• 57:48Speaker 03

  So one person said to me, I'll never, so what, what do you mean a jewel? I go, you are a jewel. You're a jewel of a person. I mean, a jewel is, they're like, I was so embarrassed because I felt like they kind of got it.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  Or Paris and Nikki, like if we're somewhere and we're getting a service, right? They'll go, did you talk to Billy?

• 58:14Speaker 03

  Like, did you get the bill?

• 58:16Alex Cooper?

  Oh, interesting. So you have a lingo? So people around you wouldn't know what you're saying.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  And then, did you talk to Tipper? What, what is, how long will the party, how many people are going to be at the party? Like, what do you think we should, you know?

• 58:33Alex Cooper?

  What do we, yeah, what do we, you-

• 58:34Speaker 03

  We gotta make this a little extra special.

• 58:36Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh.

• 58:37Speaker 03

  Because they've given us so much time. How many people do you think should be at the party?

• 58:43Speaker 03

  Right? And did you talk to William that or Billy? That means you have cash on you.

• 58:49Alex Cooper?

  You guys have actual code language going on. Well, because I remember in

• 58:55Speaker 03

  Like I maybe only have $20 in my purse, or I'd have a hundred or something. So do you, did you talk to Bill? So then we

• 59:03Alex Cooper?

  No, I have enough. I haven't talked to him. I have nothing for him.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  Yeah. So we have this language that has developed over the years.

• 59:12Alex Cooper?

  Well, on Beverly Hills, I remember the iconic scene where Kyle is sitting there and she's like Kathy speaks in like halves. She'll be like, and then they obviously said, because you know what I'm saying.

• 59:22Speaker 03

  You know what I'm saying.

• 59:23Alex Cooper?

  And then we were there, obviously.

• 59:25Speaker 03

  Well, my feeling is I think it comes from being on QVC. I swear to God. Every minute is money, every second. So I am, and so if I do know there's a camera around, I'm talking really quick because also there's seven other girls and I won't get anything. I won't be able to talk because they're all talking.

• 59:47Alex Cooper?

  Um, have you ever cried over a bad haircut?

• 59:50Speaker 03

  Um, frizzy hair.

• 59:54Speaker 03

  If my hair doesn't look good,

• 59:57Speaker 03

  that's not good.

• 59:57Alex Cooper?

  That's not good.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  I'm just like so sad.

• 1:00:00Alex Cooper?

  Are you putting a lot of work into it?

• 1:00:02Speaker 03

  Straightener.

• 1:00:03Alex Cooper?

  Straightener. Like, what are you gonna do with your hair on this trip tomorrow?

• 1:00:06Speaker 03

  I know. That's what I'm worried about.

• 1:00:08Alex Cooper?

  Did you ever go up?

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  No, you know what? I think I'll throw it up, aware the visor.

• 1:00:14Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh. Throw it up.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  And just throw it up.

• 1:00:18Alex Cooper?

  Like you could look cute with a little claw clip.

• 1:00:21Speaker 03

  I live in claw clips.

• 1:00:23Alex Cooper?

  Okay. Okay. And like a little messy, maybe a couple like pieces down and a cute earring.

• 1:00:29Speaker 03

  And Rachel will put my lashes on for me.

• 1:00:34Alex Cooper?

  Okay, boom.

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  So I feel like I look a little cute that way.

• 1:00:36Alex Cooper?

  Uh huh. That's so nice to have friends that know how to do that. I don't know.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Well, she knows how to do her own makeup.

• 1:00:42Alex Cooper?

  That's so nice.

• 1:00:43Speaker 03

  So that's really great.

• 1:00:45Alex Cooper?

  Because if you get them wrong, it looks janky. It's like, oh, you look like, you look like you had them on the next floor.

• 1:00:51Speaker 03

  The worst is when I'll say, honey, does this look okay? I feel like it's kind of, he goes, well, it's kind of hanging off on the side. Just take them off.

• 1:01:01Alex Cooper?

  You're like, okay, never mind. Um, okay, Kathy. We're at the end. I want to know to people that maybe like have seen you on TV, but weren't as familiar with you and maybe got to know you more today. Like, what is one thing you want them to really know about you? Miss Kathy Hilton.

• 1:01:23Speaker 03

  I think I would want to be remembered or whatever as a kind person, fun.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  And, you know, I try to do the right thing.

• 1:01:39Speaker 03

  And I just,

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  I want people to be nice.

• 1:01:45Speaker 03

  You know?

• 1:01:46Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, that's amazing. You were so fun. You have a great energy. Like, I can now see this Members Club gets so kooky and fun.

• 1:01:57Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:58Alex Cooper?

  Um, thank you so much for coming on. This was fabulous.

• 1:02:01Speaker 03

  It was fun, yeah.

• 1:02:02Alex Cooper?

  It wasn't too scary and it was light.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  I'm not, I mean, I'm not scared because I have nothing to be scared about.

• 1:02:08Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  When you think about it, when you get to the point where I am in my life, I never would have done like any of this.

• 1:02:19Alex Cooper?

  You're like,

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  but it's like, you know what?

• 1:02:23Alex Cooper?

  How fun.

• 1:02:23Speaker 03

  Why not? Because I have nothing.

• 1:02:27Alex Cooper?

  You have no worries.

• 1:02:28Speaker 03

  I have no worries.

• 1:02:30Alex Cooper?

  You've got your comfort pillow?

• 1:02:31Speaker 03

  I got my little pillow.

• 1:02:33Alex Cooper?

  Oh, wait, yeah. Give me, give me a sign off in one of your voices of just like, say Daddy Gang. I had so much fun today and then.

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  But you have to, I'm going to say that. I'm going to say two things and then I'm going to say Daddy Gang what?

• 1:02:45Alex Cooper?

  Just say what, their name is Daddy Gang. So like, whatever, like, thanks for having me on. I love you guys. Bye.

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  Oh, the daddy of these, the fans?

• 1:02:51Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, yeah, these are the fans, but we need your voice.

• 1:02:53Speaker 03

  Okay. First, I'm going to tell you, hey, close your eyes. I say this to my husband, but I, it's my little boo boo voice.

• 1:03:02Alex Cooper?

  Okay, I'm closing my eyes.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  So close your eyes.

• 1:03:04Alex Cooper?

  Everyone close your eyes in the room.

• 1:03:05Speaker 03

  I'm kind of shy and embarrassed. Okay?

• 1:03:06Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  All right, I'm going to do it into the speaker here.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  I'm hungry. Did you understand what I said?

• 1:03:15Alex Cooper?

  Oh, do it again.

• 1:03:16Speaker 03

  Me hungry.

• 1:03:20Alex Cooper?

  Did you say me hungry?

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Yes. Now, one more.

• 1:03:24Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:03:25Speaker 03

  Me tired.

• 1:03:29Alex Cooper?

  Me tired. And are you doing this to your husband pretending to be?

• 1:03:32Speaker 03

  To be cute.

• 1:03:33Alex Cooper?

  And are you pretending to be?

• 1:03:34Speaker 03

  I'm trying to be cute so that he will take me to a restaurant.

• 1:03:40Speaker 03

  Or that I'm tired tonight.

• 1:03:44Alex Cooper?

  And I want to go home. And you do this and you don't make him close his eyes?

• 1:03:48Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:03:49Alex Cooper?

  You'll just say it to him?

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  No, he thinks it's great.

• 1:03:52Alex Cooper?

  Great. And do you keep it mostly to one word or would you speak a sentence?

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  I do sentences.

• 1:03:57Alex Cooper?

  Okay, give me a sentence.

• 1:03:58Speaker 03

  I'm really like meaning all the daddy thing.

• 1:04:02Alex Cooper?

  Kathy Hilton, you really are fucking iconic.

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  I'm scared and hungry.

• 1:04:12Alex Cooper?

  I love it so much. Kathy, I'm obsessed with you. Thank you for doing this.

• 1:04:18Speaker 03

  Well, I want you to come over to my house.

• 1:04:20Alex Cooper?

  Okay, when should we do it? We'll figure it out.

• 1:04:22Speaker 03

  We'll do a barbecue. We'll get Paris.

• 1:04:25Alex Cooper?

  Well, because we just saw Paris and Carter and my husband went to school with Carter at Columbia. And they know each other and Paris and I are friends. So we said, we all have to do something together, but maybe you should host us.

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:04:39Alex Cooper?

  We're gonna do something.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  We're gonna do something big.

• 1:04:42Alex Cooper?

  Kathy, this is just the beginning. People don't even know what's coming.

• 1:04:46Speaker 03

  They don't?

• 1:04:47Alex Cooper?

  No, they're gonna watch for it now. So now we gotta follow up on this.

• 1:04:50Speaker 03

  Now we gotta follow up. When is your birthday? Don't wait, don't tell. Hold on.

• 1:04:56Alex Cooper?

  You're not gonna get it.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  All right, hold on.

• 1:04:58Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:04:58Speaker 03

  I'm gonna say, but don't give me looks or anything. If I'm wrong, then say, you're wrong, move ahead.

• 1:05:03Alex Cooper?

  Okay.

• 1:05:04Speaker 03

  You could be an Aquarius.

• 1:05:08Speaker 03

  But you're not. You could be a Pisces, but you're not.

• 1:05:14Alex Cooper?

  No, I'm not.

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  You could be an Aries, but you're not. Hold on.

• 1:05:23Alex Cooper?

  Strong.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  You could be a Taurus. You're not. Leo?

• 1:05:32Alex Cooper?

  Yes.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  You know, I was gonna say Leo before that, but you're strong, you're generous, but you're not lazy.

• 1:05:40Alex Cooper?

  I'm not lazy.

• 1:05:41Speaker 03

  Well, I guess the, because Leos can be lazy.

• 1:05:44Alex Cooper?

  I am not like, can they? Oh, I'm not lazy.

• 1:05:46Speaker 03

  Look at the way a lion walks.

• 1:05:49Alex Cooper?

  Oh, slow.

• 1:05:50Speaker 03

  But they're like this and they sit and they watch and they wait and then they get you.

• 1:05:56Alex Cooper?

  Do I remind you of a lion at all?

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  No, you remind me of one of the Hilton sisters.

• 1:06:04Alex Cooper?

  God, I would love to be one of those.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  But you're very generous with a big heart.

• 1:06:09Alex Cooper?

  You're so sweet. We, and you're a what?

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  Pisces.

• 1:06:12Alex Cooper?

  Pisces.

• 1:06:13Speaker 03

  The fancy fish. And the other fish is very shy and hides.

• 1:06:20Alex Cooper?

  What?

• 1:06:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's two fish.

• 1:06:22Alex Cooper?

  Is that a Pisces?

• 1:06:23Speaker 03

  Opposite directions.

• 1:06:25Alex Cooper?

  Kathy, we have so much to talk about in the Members Club. It's really crazy.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  We'll get into a night at the Members Club.

• 1:06:30Alex Cooper?

  We will get into a night.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, and you can bring these.

• 1:06:33Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God, we'll do a podcast from the Members.

• 1:06:36Speaker 03

  Yes. Don't laugh.

• 1:06:39Alex Cooper?

  Oh, my God. No, no, you wouldn't want a podcast to go live from the Members Club. What's, what happens in the Members Club stays in the Members Club? No?

• 1:06:47Speaker 03

  If we could share things with people. And raise a little money.

• 1:06:53Alex Cooper?

  Then it's all for a good cause.

• 1:06:54Speaker 03

  It's for a good cause and a good, and a good chuckle.

• 1:06:58Alex Cooper?

  Boom. Okay, episode finished. Daddy Gang, I hope you enjoyed.

• 1:07:02Speaker 03

  Daddy Gang, you're, I want to meet you. I don't know the Daddy Gang.

• 1:07:05Alex Cooper?

  Yeah, but you're gonna meet them one day. Um, Kathy Hilton, you are the best. Thank you for a fabulous time. I had a lot of fun.

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  Oh, I had a lot of fun.

• 1:07:15Alex Cooper?

  Okay, good.

• 1:07:16Speaker 03

  It was really cool.

• 1:07:17Alex Cooper?

  Woo.

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