Why Is Roblox Protecting Child Predators? | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 229

Our boy JD Delay is back to talk about the insane Roblox situation, good cops vs bad cops & why the justice system is failing kids. SUB TO JD! @JdDelay5150 LIVE TOUR TICKETS: https://unsubcrew.com/liveshows Watch this episode ad-free and uncensored on Pepperbox! https://www.pepperbox.tv/ WATCH THE AFTERSHOW & BTS ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/UnsubscribePodcast P. O BOX: Unsubscribe Podcast 17503 La Cantera Pkwy Ste 104 Box 624 San Antonio TX 78257 MERCH: https://www.bunkerbranding.com/collections/unsubscribe-podcast ------------------------------ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS! BOOKING. COM https://booking.com STOPBOX Get firearm security redesigned and save 15% off @StopBoxUSA with code UNSUBSCRIBE at https://www.stopboxusa.com/unsubscribe #stopboxpod TRUE CLASSIC Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at http://trueclassic.com/unsub #trueclassicpod PRIZEPICKS Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/UNSUB and use code UNSUB and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! ------------------------------ UNSUB MERCH: https://www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/unsubscribe-podcast ------------------------------ FOLLOW OUR SOCIALS! Unsubscribe Podcast https://www.instagram.com/unsubscribepodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@unsubscribepodcast https://x.com/unsubscribecast Eli Doubletap https://www.instagram.com/eli_doubletap/ https://x.com/Eli_Doubletap https://www.youtube.com/c/EliDoubletap Brandon Herrera https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonHerrera https://x.com/TheAKGuy https://www.instagram.com/realbrandonherrera Donut Operator https://www.youtube.com/@DonutOperator https://x.com/DonutOperator https://www.instagram.com/donutoperator The Fat Electrician https://www.youtube.com/@the_fat_electrician https://thefatelectrician.com/ https://www.instagram.com/the_fat_electrician https://www.tiktok.com/@the_fat_electrician ------------------------------ unsubscribe pod podcast episode ep unsub funny comedy military army comedian texas podcasts #podcast #comedy #funnypodcast Chapters 0:00 Welcome To Unsub! 8:56 JD’s Backstory 21:37 Recovery & Human Connection 29:16 Private Prisons 33:25 Good Cops Vs Bad Cops 1:00:10 Drunk Drivers 1:08:54 Police Trauma 1:13:49 MR CHIPPY 1:21:18 Evil People Can’t Be Rehabilitated 1:29:57 The Alaskan Avenger 1:37:15 The Justice System 1:42:54 Chris Hansen 1:46:17 The Roblox Situation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:25Speaker 01

  I think Cadillac converters are pretty cool when they're on cars. Not when they're in a tweaker's backpack.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  Our favorite felon's back again.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  I'm telling you this because I don't think you're a piece of [BLEEP], but I do think you're [BLEEP] retarded.

• 0:36Speaker 02

  Can we please say, "Bring back public hangings"?

• 0:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's really what it comes down to is they all need to [BLEEP] die.

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• 1:33Speaker 01

  Are we gonna do a podcast?

• 1:35Speaker 03

  We're doing a podcast?

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Is that what we're here for?

• 1:36Speaker 03

  I think.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  I thought this was a couch audition.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  Well, we got a couch.

• 1:41Speaker 03

  That's.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Hell, yeah. I know I lived up for a reason.

• 1:44Speaker 03

  That's Patreon.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  JD's here. He's oiled up and we're just, we're ready.

• 1:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:50The Fat Electrician?

  Fuck this dude.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  Don't worry, guys. I brought my nipples with me.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  There we go. Fans, censor those.

• 1:56Speaker 05

  Blur out just the nipples though. Oh yeah, we gotta pop it. We got you this to crack.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Oh shit, it popped in.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  Three, two, one.

• 2:09Speaker 03

  Hi everyone. Welcome to the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli double tap once again JD delay Brandon Herrera myself donut operator. We really appreciate you guys for being here.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  This is actually my first time on a podcast with you.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  It is last time you skirted out and I understood.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was afraid to be seen on camera.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  That's what I thought, man.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  I had to wait until I was running for Congress again.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, that I'm actually quite surprised that you're taking the risk of sitting next to me while running for an office.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  I worried about it unless the felonies are gonna rub off.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Like an osmosis thing.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  It's a little like dandruff. They just get everywhere.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  Our favorite felons back again.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  I you know, I really appreciate that. That's a friendly term. It's and I'm barely I barely qualify as a felon, bro.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Only fifty eight.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  Fifty eight, only fifty eight.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a number.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  I haven't caught a felony in like six years.

• 3:00Speaker 05

  Which is good.

• 3:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:02Speaker 05

  Baby steps.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, you know.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  I haven't caught a felony in the last six years either.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Nice. Twinsies.

• 3:08Speaker 05

  We have so much in common. The last six years, I don't think any of us caught felons.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  That's great. You know, once you catch the first one anyway, it's it's like, okay, so the government just took away my inalienable God given rights to be able to defend myself and my family. And I have to check that box forever. So you know, it's one or fifty eight. It's all the same.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:28Speaker 05

  Still the biggest surprise.

• 3:30Speaker 02

  Kind of like getting an STD.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. It doesn't matter how many STDs you have. Once you get one, you know, you're you're dirty inside. You're infected.

• 3:38Speaker 03

  Brandon Herrera.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Felons are felonies are like STDs.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Felonies.

• 3:45Speaker 05

  First one, does it really count?

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Felonies STDs Pokemon.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  After your first felony, you became a bug chaser.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck it.

• 3:54Speaker 05

  Oh, those are the worst.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  Like the ones that live under my skinses.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Man, how are you doing?

• 4:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, welcome. What's up, buddy? It's been, man, six months. It's been a while since you were on.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Something like that. And I have been like just nonstop harassed about when are you going back on unsub? When are you going back on? When they invite me? When I was stoked, they invited me once. Then now you guys have allowed me to come back twice. So for everybody who's asked right now.

• 4:21Speaker 05

  Well, you were supposed to come back earlier and we talked about it a little bit, but you had to put everything on hold for a little bit because you didn't know if you're going to jail or not, again, or prison again.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, so there was a, uh, there was a almost 12 year old charge. I had gotten a DUI for marijuana. And I didn't handle my probation correctly. Like I didn't handle it like an adult. Uh, I actually got almost immediately violated, but I moved to the state of Florida and it stewed for 10, 12 years, something like that.

• 4:56Speaker 05

  This is a DUI from like 12 years.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro. Like it was at the end of 2013 when I caught it. Um, so, uh, I, it, I, it was the last thing that I had to do to make things right and to, uh, you know, fulfill my obligations. And so I hired an attorney and was like, how do we do this? Like there's a way to avoid incarceration here, right? And he's like, well, with the prosecutor that you're going to have, probably not. She's going to want you to do some time on this, um, because it was a probation revoke and, you know, it was anything up to a year. So there was a year cap on it. Um, and it was what I just needed to do to take account for the things that I had done in my past. It was the last

• 5:37Speaker 01

  thing that I needed to clean up. Um, and so, you know, I, uh, I'm all about accountability these days. Accountability is like one of the most key things that has enabled me to become a better person, uh, to have the life that I have today. So I just dealt with it head on and, um, was ready to go in, you know, the day that we walked into court on the way in, my attorney said, you're ready to go to jail today. And I said, I'm ready to go. Let's do this. You know, my wife was ready for me to go. We walk in there and he goes, hold on, that's a different prosecutor. And he walks up to him and talks to him for a minute and comes back and he goes, you're never going to believe this, but, uh, that prosecutor actually

• 6:19Speaker 01

  knows you from your content. And he said, putting you in jail would be a waste of time and he wants to offer you community service. I think it also probably helped that I had like letters of recommendation from Chris Hansen, amazing dude, great friend. Um, Rich, uh, Rich's Angry Cops letter was actually the one that the judge read in the courtroom.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Jelly Roll and Bunny wrote me a letter, sheriffs from multiple different counties across the country.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Lexing on this courtroom.

• 6:48Speaker 03

  Is there a name down here you want to drop?

• 6:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, speaking of things that dropped, I actually made you this, Cody, because you have incarcerated a lot of people and I just wanted you to see what their girlfriends are. Cause I know a lot of them have given you shit. So just so you know, this is what a prison girlfriend is. It's called a Fifi. It's actually a glove rolled up into a towel and you would squirt lotion on the end of that, like inside a little bit. And that is the female companion of the people who gave you shit, resisted arrest, whatever the case may be. That's what they have to look forward to. I wanted you to just bask in that for a moment. Now, don't go in it.

• 7:27Speaker 05

  It's the unsub communal Fifi.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:30Speaker 03

  I'm gonna put this on the unsub titties.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  Take it down, pass it around.

• 7:35Speaker 05

  Put it in the background of the fucking podcast.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  In the background, that's great.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  I'll have to ask Tim about that, but.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Oh, he's getting the titties out.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  We absolutely can't show those on camera.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 7:49Speaker 05

  I just like it's a blurred out thing right now.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  A vote for Brandon is a vote for Fifi.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  Yes, sir.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  I started this, I'm sorry, Brandon, I'm sorry.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  I was just thinking about the poor bastards on the prison fucking laundry duty.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Is the tits in the white? Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  There's no way that glove holds up.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  No, it's in the shop. I don't know. It depends on how gentle you are with it.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  I don't plop them on the ground.

• 8:22Speaker 05

  Jesus.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  Bags of sand.

• 8:24Speaker 05

  That noise.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  The plop, you would say?

• 8:28Speaker 03

  As one would say.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  This prosecutor was such a cool guy that he actually went harder for me when talking to the judge to recommend community service as opposed to incarceration, because it was ultimately up to the judge. He went harder for me than paid attorneys that I've paid in the past. It was really incredible. And one thing that he really wanted, he asked me specifically was to continue to make content based upon what happens when you are accountable and you own your shit and you handle things head on. And you know, that's something that's been so quintessential in my life that I was like, yeah, let's run that, bro. Especially if it means that I get to do community service, which I, my life is community service. I do community service all the time. So.

• 9:13Speaker 03

  Be cool if they counted your videos as community service.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  That would be sweet. I'm actually doing my community service through the Salvation Army. I have a buddy who works at the Salvation Army and where I'm at, they do a lot of stuff for the homeless population and people that are struggling with substances. So we've been doing that and he's great. He did like 10 years in the feds. He's like six inches taller than me. So big old swole up cracker and we've been doing community service together.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  JD, if no one knows you, why are you friends with us? Like, what is your background? Why, why like?

• 9:48Speaker 01

  Hi, everybody.

• 9:49Speaker 03

  Why are you the coolest guy ever?

• 9:50Speaker 01

  My name is JD. I was a career criminal and a drug addict for 20 years. I came to a point where I was granted the desperation to turn my life around by the Secret Service and the SWAT team in Florida for organized fraud and counterfeiting. I've done 39 months in state prison. And I ended up getting granted a second chance at life that I 100% did not deserve. I had not earned it, but it was grace that was given to me. And since then I've become a recovery coach, a peer support recovery specialist, a smart recovery facilitator. I've started a community outreach for distributing Narcan and for raising

• 10:35Speaker 01

  funds for mental health services for people in early recovery. And my life, basically these days is based on trying to help other people get second chances and get the same type of grace and. Life that I have today.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  It's not every day you see somebody who takes a second chance at life and takes it as seriously as you have. So that's, that's fucking awesome.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Well, anytime you get a blessing, and this is from my personal experience, anytime that you get a blessing in life, the blessing comes with the responsibility inherently. And every time I've disrespected a blessing, God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, slaps the shit out of me if I disrespect my blessings. And God got hands, bro. So I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to play around, man. Um, you know, and honestly, it's a huge honor to me to be allowed to go into like prisons today and to be able to speak to people that are incarcerated and give them a little bit of hope because I never had that when I was in prison. We never had anybody who came in and the classes that we had, nothing against the people who ran them, but you know, it's people that have never struggled a day in their life, the way

• 11:39Speaker 01

  that people in there that are doing time had. So it, it didn't hit the same when they would talk to us. But if someone like me had walked in and talked to me and told me, I don't have to do this. There's a better way. There's a better future. I think that it might've had a real actual effect. So.

• 11:57Speaker 02

  You mean that you look a little different than the typical prison counselor?

• 12:00Speaker 01

  Uh, well, you know, I look a little different, but also there's something about people that have had extreme trauma or substance use issues or incarceration where we can hear shit from somebody who's been in the gutter or the prison yard or, you know, been to the bottom in a way that we can't hear it from somebody who has the classical type of training. Like somebody can have every degree on their wall to give me necessary information to save my own life. And I won't hear it on the same level as I would from somebody who has, you know, been there, gone to prison or, you know, uh, been desperate and, you know, strung out on the streets. There's just something about it. And I'm not sure entirely what it is, but

• 12:43Speaker 01

  somebody who's lived that life and found a way out is what it took for me to be able to find my way out. I needed men to guide me who had been there. And so I get to do the same and turn around and do that for other people today.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  Is that what you found? Like what, what really was it? Once you had that second chance? Like what really made you turn it around?

• 13:04Speaker 01

  Man, you know, to be honest with you, I was in a seven man, six man cell. And I was the seventh man and I was like the token white dude on this unit. Everybody else was either Hispanic or Haitian. I was in a heavy Haitian unit and one of the dudes in my cell, I'm sleeping in a boat on the floor. One of the dudes in my cell was a shot caller from the Zo gang. And a really cool dude, but me and him had some issues and we were, we were about to fight. And he looked at me and instead of fighting me, he said, dude, where are you at with God? And I said, there's no fucking God, bro. Get the fuck out of here. Are we fighting or what's going on? He goes, no, man, let me, let me talk to you. We talked all night long and, and I grew up in a very church driven household.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  But he presented things in a way that was non intrusive and it made sense to me. And just sort of opened up a door for me and I saw a life for myself and a possibility for myself that I hadn't seen before. And I woke up the next morning and there was just a voice in my head that said, get up, you're going home today. I had like $56,000 bond at this point and nobody wanted to really like put up money to bond out the dude who just got caught with an ID printer. And printing out checks, you know, I'm like the biggest flight risk. I'm already a fugitive in the state of Oregon with 10 years hanging over his head. So I didn't really think much of it, but I got on the phone, I called the bondsman and like within eight hours, I was walking out of the jail.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  No shit.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  And I went home and ended up getting raided by the SWAT team again. More charges, they had been investigating me for like a year and.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Wait, hold on. So you got out of prison just for them as soon as you got home to raid you again? Like what was the time lapse on that? Was it like right after?

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. So it was jail and I was just on bond. So I still had to face those charges. And so because I had stopped committing crimes, the investigation that they had been running on me, like I think they had been trying to stack as many charges on me as they could. Is kind of my general understanding on it. And I'm not sure you being law enforcement, I don't know if that's something they actually do, or if it was just the timing. But it seemed like they'd been trying to stack charges on me since I was inactive. They started dropping indictments on me like I got. Three indictments within three months for old stuff after I actually stopped committing crimes. And they kept coming and looking for me and not catching me, but then I'd go and turn myself in.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  I'd hit up my bondsman, have him all ready to pay my bond as soon as I went in. So I had a judge that offered me treatment and I really wanted to go to this treatment center. And this judge changed my life. His name's Judge Foxman. I appreciate you dude. He saw something in me and gave me an opportunity to go to a treatment center. And he told me, if you go and make it through treatment, we'll figure all this other stuff out. But if you don't go to treatment or you buck treatment, I'm going to bury you under a prison. Do you understand me? And I was like, yeah, absolutely.

• 16:12The Fat Electrician?

  Brandon, do you need not?

• 16:14Speaker 02

  One more time. You got this buddy.

• 16:16The Fat Electrician?

  Brandon, can you, Brandon, do you?

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Almost there bud.

• 16:19The Fat Electrician?

  Brandon, where do you store your firearms?

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  All over my house, in every fucking crevice.

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• 16:33The Fat Electrician?

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• 16:36Speaker 02

  You're selling me.

• 16:37The Fat Electrician?

  What's in the box? You have to open it and find out.

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  All right, well, let's see if I can do this. Oh, wow. Look at that.

• 16:42The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, it didn't stop you.

• 16:44Speaker 03

  Can I hide my goop in that?

• 16:45The Fat Electrician?

  You can hide your goop in that, Cody.

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  Cody, do you know why I love this thing?

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  Why?

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  Why?

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  Why, God, why?

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Because you don't have to use keys.

• 16:59The Fat Electrician?

  Gun, not included.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Cody, you've got multiple cats in your house, including Squirt, who's quite the scrapper. Would you want Squirt to have access to your firearms?

• 17:07Speaker 03

  No, he's violent.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Well, then StopBox is the perfect product for you. No cats getting inside that.

• 17:13The Fat Electrician?

  Or people without thumbs.

• 17:16The Fat Electrician?

  The nice part is it is actually TSA compliant.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  I didn't actually know that part until a couple of months ago. That is actually really cool. You just put a little lock through there.

• 17:24The Fat Electrician?

  Exactly.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  When you check in a pistol or any gun, if there's a hole that a lock can go through on whatever you're checking your gun in, you have to put a lock through that. This has one hole, so you just need one lock, easily accessible once you land on the ground.

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  I know you're not normally a one-hole kind of guy, but this is definitely an exception to the rule.

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• 18:10Speaker 01

  So he gave me the opportunity and then COVID hit. It gave me 20 months to be able to prove myself. By the time I went back in, I was a recovery coach, peer support recovery specialist, smart recovery facilitator. I graduated that treatment center. I was a manager at that treatment center. I was a class facilitator at a outpatient facility and I had just done some stuff to be able to show that I was serious about the changes I made in my life.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  That sounds like a fucking awesome judge, man. That's the same. That's the same thing I would, I would tell someone if I was a judge. It's like, you fucked this up. You're going under and you proved yourself to be like.

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• 19:16Speaker 03

  You turned your life around.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because the other day I was in Florida and you know who Sheriff Grady Judd is?

• 19:23Speaker 03

  I know, I know Judd.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was interviewing Sheriff Grady Judd, super cool guy. And we were talking about it because the, the media always likes to portray.

• 19:33Speaker 05

  Fed, pull him up.

• 19:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. The media always likes to get those clips where he's talking about shooting people dead and shit like that, which you pull a gun on the cops, bro, you should get murked. I'm sorry. Like if you pull a gun on a, on a police officer, I don't care if you're retarded or what you're going through. I don't care if you're underprivileged. You pull a gun on a cop, the cop has the right to defend himself. But those clips pop for the media, but they never show the other side of Judd where he's talking about how he believes in recovery. He believes in pre-trial diversion. He believes in second chances. So I thought it was really cool that I was able to sit down as somebody on a second chance and talk to him about all that stuff.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  That's awesome, man. Yeah. So that talk was really good with Judd?

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude. He's a really good guy. He's a really cool dude.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Dude, he seems cool as shit. I wanted to get him on, so I have seen those clips do kind of fuck.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Dude, those clips are sick as fuck, dude.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  It goes hard. It's not just the normal like press conference like we're investigating such and such. There's a disturbance two o'clock. It's like motherfucker. I'm going to find you.

• 20:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. He's like, you come to my county and you fuck up. You fucked up, buddy.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. And well, dude, he takes it seriously. He has a responsibility to his constituents to keep a safe community and to do everything they can to make an environment that's conducive to law abiding citizens, not these fucking criminals. And if the people that you elect are failing to do that, it's directly spitting in the faces of the people who put them in their position. And I live in a state where they do that. They bend over backwards and suck criminals off to protect them over protecting law abiding citizens. And as an ex criminal, that's never, you're never gonna like hug a thug your way into a situation where people aren't committing horrible crimes against law abiding citizens.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. It's not even just his constituents either, because it's, it's not, it's, there's his constituents. Yes, that's important, but also his officers, the people that are under him. Being under somebody like him has to be what it's like being under like General Mattis or something like that. They're just like, oh yeah, fuck yeah. Top's got us covered. Yeah, we're hell yeah.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Well, and I asked him, I asked him specifically, I was like, do you think that you could do the same job that you do here in Polk County in a state like California or New York or Oregon? And he's like, absolutely not. No, 0.0% chance. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

• 21:59Speaker 03

  It makes me think of the, the days when like my grandfather, like my grandfather, he was a, he was a law enforcement officer for 35 years in small town, Georgia. And it's like, if someone comes into your town and they fuck up, you beat the shit out of them. You take them to the edge of town. You say, don't come back to our town anymore. And that's how Judd, like that's, that's what that feels like to me, like actual law enforcement.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  You know, I actually, my grandfather on my mom's side was a big old Irish cop. And sort of the same type of dude, cut from the same cloth. I was telling Judd that and he's like, you would have made a great Polk County Sheriff's Deputy if you hadn't got those felonies. I'm like, yeah.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  My grandfather also at the same time, like, you know, he'd drive you to the edge of town and throw you out if you're a piece of shit. But he would also be kind to you and be like, do you want a meal to eat? Like, like people that actually deserved it. He'd be like, do you want a meal to eat?

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Like he wanted to serve and protect.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. But if you're a shitter, he would fucking take you to the edge of town.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  But like, if people were cool, like you, like, he would, he would take you down to the diner and he would give you a meal to eat.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  That's funny though. You're like, he would, he said, you would have made a great Polk County Deputy, right? He's like, yeah, it would have been great if you didn't have a rap sheet longer than a fucking CVS receipt.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  For real, bro, for real. And I actually got to do a TikTok trend with Sheriff Grady Judd, which was super cool. Yeah. He's got a, a media person who's really up on the trends and like, we did this trending song and like, it's me and him shaking hands, smiling at each other really big and like, it popped off on our, our TikToks and a bunch of people called me a bootlicker and they were already trying to cancel me for my, Florida round and find out shirt. So they're like, look at this Nazi shaking hands with a Nazi. I'm like, yeah, you'd call him if, if somebody fucking looked at you wrong though. If you lived in Polk County and somebody looked at your bitch ass wrong, you'd call, you got 911 on speed dial, ho ass bitch.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Look at this clear Nazi shaking hands with a local cop.

• 24:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, Nazi, both clear Nazis.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Oh, law enforcement.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  It's great. It's, it still helped me sell more of those shirts. Thank you guys for canceling me and selling shitloads of shirts and getting me thousands more followers a day. Appreciate you. Pinkies up.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  Every time you post it to your shitty little subreddits, we make more money. So yeah, fucking cool.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Free advertising with your fucking self righteous indignance.

• 24:28Speaker 05

  Advertising expensive too. So lots of money.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, bro. I know.

• 24:33Speaker 05

  Lots of money when you do that.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  My haters are my biggest fans and they make me money. I'm like, yes.

• 24:39Speaker 05

  This is fantastic. When you go back to, as you said, it was you wish you had individuals like yourself speaking when you were in prison, because then you would actually connected with them because then it's, I'm assuming it's kind of like the idea of doing therapy or group therapy with veterans that have been in the shit. You connect with them versus a random therapist or psychologist that you have no connection to. And it's like that human connection. Oh, you you've experienced this. Okay, I want to listen to you. How did you get to where you are? Yeah, kind of the same thing. And then on top of that, are you seeing that when you go to these meetings and people get out after being in one of your classes? Do you see that?

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Well, look, man, relate it to this. If you go to the gym and you're trying to lose weight, are you going to go to somebody who's morbidly obese and ask him, hey, how do I lose weight? Or are you going to go to somebody who's fucking fit that used to be, you know, on the on the plus size? And be like, hey, man, can you just show me what you did? Because I'm trying to do what you did. Every single time, bro, you know what I'm saying? If you're skinny and you want to get like bigger, exic, you're going to go to one of the big dudes and be like, hey, man, how the fuck do I do that?

• 25:50Speaker 02

  It's like you. You were where I am. Yeah, and I want to be where you are.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Pair of notes.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  Exactly. So, you know, that's, that's what it relates to to me. And it's funny that you would ask about, you know, running into people that I used to teach classes to because while I was in Florida just recently, man, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, not gonna dox you, bro. And but one of my guys that I had in my class for a good, long while, he works for UPS, bro, and I got a package delivered to the Airbnb. And it was this dude. And as soon as I saw him, he was like, hey, JD. And I was like, what's up? Gave him a big hug. He's doing fucking incredible. He's like the. Life is in his eyes. You know, I remember his first day coming in and he was head down and downtrodden and everything.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  And that means the entire fucking world to me. But when it comes to like guys who were able to go back into prison, I look at like dudes like my buddy Jelly Roll. Um, Struggle Jennings, uh, Waylon Jennings grandson.

• 26:47Speaker 03

  No, dropped it. Yeah. The name got dropped.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, here's the thing, bro, is that like they get access in ways that I can't like. I get access. Well, so they don't want to let me back into prison uh, to talk to people in very many places. Now, I've been able to do it seven or eight times now, but like when I try to do it in Oregon, all I get is roadblocks and it seems like, like this is where I come from and I'm out here and I do this work. I literally fly across the country to go to prisons in Nashville and prisons in Arkansas and speak to, to men when they're at a low point and I can offer them something that might help them change the trajectory of their life. And Oregon's like, no, no. And it's just, it's crazy to me.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  But you know, Jelly, both times he's come through Oregon, has gone into my home institution, Oregon State Penitentiary. Uh, which is incredible. He's, he's literally spoken to people that I know that I still am in contact with. Uh, you know, since 2006, I've known him and I'm still in contact with him. He's still in there. He's on double life sentences for killing his uncle because his uncle was doing shady shit to his little sister. And he got to meet Jelly and I'm like talking to him about it and shit and it's, it's fucking great, man. Like the dudes who are out there doing that type of work, change lives in ways that I don't think we're ever going to see the end of because it's like a ripple effect. It's like dropping water, you know, a drop into a still water.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  The, you change somebody's life for the better. They change somebody's life for the better. Those people change somebody's life for the better. And it just, it multiplies. You never fully see the fruits of what some of these guys are out there doing. And they're doing it on a more mass scale than I'm able to because I'm, I'm wee little fish, but eventually I'm hoping that I'll be able to get more access to be able to go in. Because addressing these people, you know, a lot of these people grew up with really fucked up home lives and you'll see people that come into prison and one thing in prison is at least where I was and I know that cultures are different, different states, but you know, table manners are pretty important. It's a respect thing. You know, don't fucking talk with

• 28:58Speaker 01

  your mouth full eating at the table type of thing. But a lot of these people just, they never had parents teach them a literal fuck thing. So they're learning some of this shit for the first time in prison. So you have somebody who has that life experience and then somebody who's been where they are comes in and talks to them and tells them, you don't have to do this forever. There's a way out. Let me explain some shit to you. And it just hits different.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  And that's one thing I will say is we, I, at least I know I've never met Jelly Roll or anything, but like I've seen him perform before. And that's one thing that like he'll stop and like pretty much every show, like offer that message of redemption. Not and it's one of, you know, a lot of artists will do stuff like that, but for him, it's the first time I've ever listened to something like that. And like, oh, this guy's a hundred percent fucking genuine. Like it's just, this actually strikes me as something that's important to this guy.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  More in person, more so in person, dude. Like he's, he's really about that shit. I like, um, my friend Struggle just got put on the board for, uh, send musicians to prison, which is literally.

• 30:06Speaker 05

  Marketing wise, not the best name. Hey, you're going to prison, dog, to help others.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  It's a little clunky. It's a little clunky.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  It sounds fucking funny though. From a marketing arm, that's a very funny group name.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  It's very straightforward. That's what they do. They send musicians into prison to go and just speak to these men. And a lot of them are due to come from rocky backgrounds and shit like that. Uh, so the fact that we have people out there actually actively doing that and you have a lot of musicians that are, you know, volunteering to go and give their time to these people. I don't see, when I walk in there, I know. That a lot of these people statistically are gonna fail. The recidivism rates are fucking crazy, but not a single one of them has to. So when I walk in there, the first thing I do is I thank them for their time. I tell them, I know that it feels like you're drowning in time. All you have is time, but your time is still valuable because what you do right now is going

• 31:01Speaker 01

  to determine the trajectory of the rest of your life. And I want to thank you for your time because it's valuable. I don't see convicts and felons and fucking losers and degenerates here. I see possible, I see the potential for future leaders, leaders of your community, leaders of your home, leaders that can go out there and make a difference in the world. But you have to choose that and you have to keep choosing it every single day. It's, it's a, it's an active lifestyle to choose something different. And you're gonna have to change everything that you've ever known. And it's not gonna be easy, but it's gonna be fucking worth it.

• 31:35Speaker 05

  It's a proper reform, proper reform through prison. Cause I think that's where your largest failure is coming from. It's like, hey, we're gonna put everyone together and then you're going to have your little race wars inside of prison.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Oh, they love that shit in there.

• 31:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, and you're going to fight, you're gonna do all of that. And then when you get out, hey, you've learned nothing. You haven't been educated. You're still, as you said, don't know how to have table manners. You're thrown right back in the world and now you can't get a job on top of everything else. So failure, failure, failure versus true reform.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  And if you reach one person, dude, if I, if I fly from Oregon to fucking Arkansas and one person gets out and changes their fucking life, win, fucking win, bro.

• 32:17Speaker 03

  I have a question I've never been able to ask, like a felon, someone who's been in prison before.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  Do it.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  How do you feel about prisons being private businesses?

• 32:27Speaker 01

  I fucking hate that shit, bro.

• 32:28Speaker 03

  Because the majority of prisons are private businesses, correct?

• 32:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, so there's, there's a lot of them that are, I don't know if it's the majority, I don't know what the statistic on that is. I know that there's like, I think 20% of them in the state of Florida prisons are private businesses. I haven't looked up the national averages or anything like that, but I don't like it because in the contracts that they have with the government, the government gives them a percent that they're gonna keep that prison full. So it's, you know, like hitting a fucking quota of, of people. Um, and

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Put a monetary incentive on making sure people go to prison.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, and, and I think that that's really dangerous.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  Or stay in prison or go back.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. And here's the thing is that like I 1,000% believe that if you are in prison and, you know, you fucked up, you owe a debt to society, you're getting free room and board and food and, you know, the shittiest healthcare you could possibly imagine. I do believe that inmates should have responsibilities. They should have to work. They should have to do things to give back to the community to earn their keep. However, there is a very prevalent slave labor industry that is, you know, being run through prisons in every single state in this country. And

• 33:49Speaker 01

  yeah, so I mean, like states like Florida, they don't pay inmates anything and they have literal contracts with companies where they will be making, you know, clothes or whatever it is. In Oregon, they have a furniture shop at OSP and then they have a Sprint or AT&T call center at Snake River. But at least out there, they pay you like $3 a day, which for prison money, $3 a day, fuck, yeah, but you know, they're contracting each person out for, you know, at minimum, minimum wage to these companies.

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• 36:09Speaker 05

  So it's a drastic number of private-

• 36:11Speaker 02

  It's actually way less than I thought.

• 36:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would figure 40%, but it's a lot less. But as you're saying, with that, you can turn into an indentured servitude, essentially, where you're like, hey, you don't get fucking paid, and we're gonna keep you as long as possible.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  I'm curious if there's ever been a court case about the constitutionality of that.

• 36:28Speaker 05

  Tyler, what's his name, just did a video on it. He got ran out. He wasn't even allowed to stand outside the prison and do a video. It's a private prison. And he was just recording a video.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  Olivera?

• 36:41Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  Oh, no shit.

• 36:42Speaker 05

  And the sheriff, the local town cops showed up and like, hey, you gotta leave. And he's like, wait, this is public land. You better leave. I'm gonna ask you one more time. You need to leave.

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• 37:19Speaker 05

  And he's like, I'm on public land. What the fuck are you talking about? And as he's talking, the prison is shuttling people in and out, not in cattle cars, and they're having to sit down and squat, and they're not handcuffed or anything. And they're like, where are they taking those prisoners? And then they're willing them back in, too. Like, don't just stop recording, stop recording. Cops made them leave and then they escorted them out of town and this is all the local town sheriffs and police officers escorted them.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Wow, where was this?

• 37:47Speaker 05

  Tyler Olivera.

• 37:49Speaker 02

  Olivera, Oliviera, something like that, but yeah, no, I like his stuff.

• 37:51Speaker 05

  Dude, yeah, that video is fucking wild and it is a massive video and you see the corruption at that level and that is they go deep into it and then they uh he interviews prisoners at that's one and it was a female and male prisoners. The females were like, yeah, we would have to be outside in the cold and doing gardening for just the local sheriff. Like, yeah, yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Well, that that's like a lot of the cop hate that I get where it's like, oh, cops are fucking bad. They might see something like that where it's like. Maybe the sheriff, there's like a trickle down thing.

• 38:24Speaker 05

  Oh shit, guys are bad.

• 38:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, like tho- those guys, like the prisons making money because it's a privatized prison and then the sheriff's probably not helping out arresting more people to fucking get them into that prison, but like you said, it's like eighteen percent. But I get this shit all the time where it's like, oh, cops are fucking bad. It's like, nah, there's there's some fucking bad motherfuckers out there, but like not all cops are bad.

• 38:47Speaker 05

  It's you just will not see headlines about the good ones. It's for anything.

• 38:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:52Speaker 05

  The good ones will never make the headlines. The bad ones really fucking fast. All the headlines is like, see, all cops are pieces of shit and you're like, whoa, Acorn Cop versus a dude that saved a whole bunch of people. We see more.

• 39:05Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 39:05Speaker 05

  I was gonna say it's like Acorn Cop got way more attention than uh what's the? Who's the guy that just saved like two hundred people from the floods?

• 39:13Speaker 02

  The Curval floods? Yeah, the the guy who was like the emergency swimmer or whatever, not like National Guard.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was National Guard. That dude was a gangster, dog. That was his first fucking mission, too.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  Barely any coverage compared to Acorn Cop. Acorn Cop fucking all over social media. Bad cop, which terrible cop. Fuck it, but.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  That's why.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  Were you gonna talk about George Floyd real quick?

• 39:34Speaker 01

  Oh, Jesus. That's why every time I get the opportunity and and they don't get media coverage, but anytime that I hear uh about a good cop doing something good, I covered on my channel because I'm known as being the ex-prison guy. You know what I'm saying? And I want to put more light on that. Now, I'll also hold bad cops accountable.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  You know what I'm saying? Like, I know there was the the case out there in Volusia County where the cop was in his car, in his uniform, going around and extorting. Prostitutes into doing favors for him and Sheriff Chitwood, gangster motherfucker. I love Sheriff Chitwood, bro, like, and, and I know him personally on a certain level, not like super well, but like that dude's a gangster. He, he ended up taking the dudes, he prosecuted the dude to the full extent. He took the dude's badge and had the dude's badge melted down in front of all of his new recruits and said, this is what the fuck happens when you disrespect our badges here. You go to prison and we melt the badge, the badge never gets used again.

• 40:35Speaker 02

  See, that's fucking dope. The, I don't know. It's marketing 101. When it comes to like, you talked about like the, the good cops versus the bad cops, like why the good cops never get any, any fucking publicity outside of like, maybe a feel good story in your local news is because like marketing 101 is the things that get shared, the things that people show to other people, the things that people click on, which therefore makes those media outlets money is things that make you laugh or things that make you angry. They are monetizing things that piss you off because the things that are feel good stuff, they don't get fucking views. They don't get fucking clicks. The only things that you click on, fucking tell me I'm wrong, are the things that make you laugh or the things that piss you off. And that's what they're banking on.

• 41:17Speaker 03

  You know what drove me crazy about fucking cops, dude?

• 41:21Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 41:21Speaker 03

  Officer discretion. Like, I knew cops that would like, like sweep the weed flakes out of a carpet of a car just so they could get a weed charge on them. Where on the other hand, I would find some weed and I'd be like, all right, like, I would stomp it out on the side of the road and be like, just don't do that again.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. I've had both, I've had both of those types of cops, man, you know?

• 41:46Speaker 03

  And, and it just, those, there's shitty cops that fucks it up for all of, like, the rest of the fucking cops.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  Captain Boy Scout that just wants to be an asshole.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  Fucking, I think it's like 700,000 police officers in the United States right now. And there's always those guys that want to scrape the weed flakes out of the fucking carpet and then just get a weed charge on it. And that would always drive me fucking crazy as a cop.

• 42:10Speaker 05

  You're not liked at your.

• 42:12Speaker 03

  No, we all hate you fucking too.

• 42:14Speaker 05

  Yeah, literally.

• 42:17Speaker 05

  It's like bad military leadership.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  Oh, the shitbags?

• 42:21Speaker 05

  Dude, the shitbags, especially if they fell upwards, we fucking hated that leadership and we knew you were a shitbag. And we despised you or watched your entire squad and team despise you. And we felt bad for the people that were part of that squad. Cause you're like, fuck dude, they're in the day room at 5pm cleaning weapons every day of the week because homeboy hates going home and he wants to make his soldiers miserable.

• 42:44Speaker 03

  Discretion.

• 42:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, fuck man.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  Just because your wife's a bitch and you don't want to go home.

• 42:48Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, I'm gonna make everyone's life suck.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  Let me ask you a question. So from your experience, it does, is that like a rookie trait? Like, is that something that, because it always seemed to me like it, it was more the rookies that were doing that type of shit. They're trying to make a name for themselves. They want to be Billy badass. And the dudes who've like really seen some shit and been around for a while are like, yeah, fuck that petty shit, dude.

• 43:12Speaker 05

  Can I, can I do a guess really fast? Just from a psychological standpoint, I think those individuals will stay rookies, but then continue that process no matter what. So they will stay shitbirds from rookie till senior leadership. And with police, especially recently, because a lot of good ones will get out because social media and the presence. Those shitbags will stay in. They won't get in trouble. They will be covered. They might be hated, but they're like, well, I'm still getting paychecks. And they'll still make everyone's life miserable.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, so it starts off as a rookie thing where you want to make a name for yourself. And so you're going to like find this weed here and there and like him someone up on some fucking stupid weed. Like when I, when I started off as a police officer, I would find some weed and I'm like, ah, you know, fucking, I don't care about it. Stomp it out on the ground. Like, don't do that again. Or I would, or I would tell people like, hey, uh, I'm gonna write you a ticket for this weed. If you don't commit a crime for the next six months until your court date, I'm gonna just cancel that entire fucking charge. And so they, they, they would go into court with me six months later and not committed any, any fucking crimes.

• 44:26Speaker 03

  And I would just Noel Pross, hey, Judge Noel Pross, just cancel that out.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  That's weird. Instead of trying to ruin their life, you were giving them an incentive to not commit crime?

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I like, I did that sometimes, but there were, there were cops, especially the new guys that would come in and be like, oh, we charge, we charge. I want to be a narcotics officer. So I'm going to get this weed charge. And it was fucking gay, but then there were, there were some cops that had been there for like years, who were still doing the same shit. Like, oh, no, no, no. This is, this is a, this is fucking bad. So we gotta fucking, we gotta arrest them for this, for this little weed thing.

• 45:02Speaker 05

  See, if I was a cop, I'd just make it do every amount of drug they had.

• 45:05Speaker 03

  It's the fucking.

• 45:06Speaker 01

  Oh, damn.

• 45:07Speaker 03

  I'd be like, yeah.

• 45:09Speaker 05

  All of it has to be done right in front of me. They're like,

• 45:12Speaker 03

  It's the fucking.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  I'd usually swallow it before they'd get up to my car. Just helping bags of meth down my throat.

• 45:22Speaker 03

  Bro, it's, it's like, it's like the hall monitors, the boy scouts and like all the other cops were just like, why do you have to keep doing this? Like, it doesn't matter.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  It's funny because you find those people like in literally every aspect of society. Like they call them the treatment Nazi.

• 45:36Speaker 03

  Any job you go to, you're gonna find those fucking people.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  When you go to treatment, bro, there's always at least one, if not multiple treatment Nazis. And they're like that, that person. It's like, everything's completely a totally by the book. And I'm gonna tell on you for if, if you look at me sideways, I'm gonna fuck you up. I'm gonna tell on you. The, these counselors love me. And then the counselors pull you aside and they're like, bro, like I hate that fucking dude. That dude is such a dick. He's not gonna make it. He's way too high strung. Like watching, they always end up fucking up, bro. Like they lose their shit and they fuck up and they relapse. But they think that they're just absolutely God's gift to like recovery and, and you'll find that in any type of situation, dog. The hall monitor, the, the fucking anal retentive cop, the treatment Nazi.

• 46:19Speaker 05

  Hall monitor cops is a perfect statement. That represents everything.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, dude, going back to to Grady Judd, he's like, you fuck up, you're you're done.

• 46:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Like, that's that's what I would do with people who I found with weed charges like, hey, just don't commit a crime for like six months. Easy day.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Well, and and he specifically, when I interviewed him, he was like, you know, I've had a reporter be like, yeah, you hate those people you put in jail. And he's like, I don't hate them. They committed a crime and they have they have to be held accountable for that. I have no hate for that. I hope they get out and they do better. That's why I have programs in my county jail to help people do better when they get out. I want to see them become productive members of my community. And to me, what it always comes down to is when you lock someone up, the majority of them are coming back out. Who do you want as a fucking neighbor, bro? Who do you want your kid to pass on the sidewalk on their way to school? Do you want somebody that you locked in a cage and you kicked them for fucking 10 years?

• 47:20Speaker 01

  Or do you want somebody that while they were in there, you gave them a job so they learned a routine? They learned some skills. They now have something they can take out of there. And some of the things that we're lacking in there are just simple shit that I don't even think the prisons are really thinking about. Like, you need a class before people get out to teach them how to fill out job applications, uh, file their fucking taxes, bro. Like, these simple things that that normal people are just like, oh, that's just common sense. You don't understand where these people are coming from, man. Like, if they knew how to fill out a job application and they could sit in front of somebody and interview, they might not have committed those crimes. I'm not saying it's anybody else's fault. It's their fault for not seeking those types of services and getting that education. But a lot of these people weren't afforded the opportunity.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  And I'm not the big like, oh, we need to feel sympathy for all of these criminals type of dude like, no.

• 48:09Speaker 03

  Two things can be true at the same time.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  It can be true that it is their fault, but also be true that they didn't have the resources and that we can fix that.

• 48:15Speaker 01

  These people are fucked up. These people need help. If they get out before they get help, they're more than likely going to damage the community again. And we're gonna have to pay for their existence in prison again. And isn't it better if we just get them the nominal amount of shit they need to be successful and reintegrate into society?

• 48:36Speaker 02

  And that's where I think the the concern with private prisons comes back into play because it's like, okay, well, now, just like anything else in life, you follow the money. Where's the financial incentive for them? Is it to make good neighbors that when they're released, become actual productive members of society? Or is the financial incentive to make sure they end back up there?

• 48:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, the thing is, is that when you treat people like an animal, bro, they

• 48:58Speaker 02

  Stanford prison experience.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  They tend to act like fucking animals, you know? And, you know, being institutionalized is a real life thing. Being institutionalized is like you get caught in this pattern and it's what you know. And to be honest, another thing that I've seen a lot with institutionalization is that in prison, to be respected, to be respected, bro, like, you have very, it's bottom of the barrel basement ethics. It's, you know, don't snitch, uh, don't ever back down from a fight. Uh, I don't know how progressive and woke prisons are now, but it was, it used to be, don't do no gay shit. You know what I'm saying? Don't, don't get a throat full of dick while you're in there and you're a good dude.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  And so dudes will be respected in there because they'll fight each other and shit and they don't snitch. And, you know, they carry themselves that way, but then they get out and they're looked at like complete and total pieces of shit. And they have to tell everybody that they're a felon if they want a job. And like, there's just so much stacked up against you. Let's at least get these dudes the basic shit that they need to be able to like, get employment and pay taxes. Cause if they're paying taxes, that ostensibly that helps the whole community, right? If they're working, that's way better than them stealing your fucking catalytic converter. I don't know about you guys, but I think Cadillac converters are pretty cool when they're on cars. Not when they're in a tweaker's backpack.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  It's a hard one. It is. Cause it's so many layers. That's a, as I said, the Stanford prison experiment was, hey, look, this is an experiment with people from Stanford, both on different sides, males. Just males, I want to say. And it was the, the 20, how many people?

• 50:40Speaker 01

  Oh, you're talking about where they put some people as guards and they put some people as prisoners?

• 50:44Speaker 05

  And it's a fucking thought experiment and they still, and literally it was 20, uh, 24 male undergraduate students were selected randomly assigned to either prisoner or guards in a mock prison set up in a basement, Stanford universer, university findings. The guards quickly adopted.

• 51:03Speaker 05

  Just authoritarian behavior, abusive behavior.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  Literally instant, just signs of psychological distress and learned helplessness. They displayed that instantly with friends, like going into this thought experiment and they immediately were like, oh, I'm in control. Fuck you. We're going to restrict showers. We're going to make you feel like pieces of shit to make you do what we want you to do. And it got out of control really fast. And that's Stanford graduate, like.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  You know, to be sick.

• 51:33Speaker 03

  Fair. They were a bunch of queers, probably.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  Fuck. You know what would be sick is to redo that with a bunch of YouTubers. That would make such sick content to redo that with a bunch of YouTubers and just see what the fuck happens.

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  Watch this. The study abruptly ended six days due to escalating abuse and psychological breakdowns. That is how long.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Six days.

• 53:04Speaker 05

  Last year, and these are Stanford undergrads. And all it lasted was six days of like, whoa, this got really out of control.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Like, let's do that with YouTubers and like, I'm just seeing like the next Mr. Beast video. I turned 50 of my friends into psychopaths.

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  For a million dollars.

• 53:21Speaker 03

  JD, did the guards not do better when they were nicer to them?

• 53:24Speaker 01

  I'm telling you this right now. Like if you, it depends on whether it is a minimum security or a maximum security. I liked max security because the guards were chill, bro. They were not up your ass. They were not disrespectful. They were not trying to like Billy badass you all the time because they knew these people have nothing to lose and they will run a piece of steel in me. The, the minimum security, everybody was like concerned about staying there and like, oh, I don't want to go to OSP. It's scary as shit there because people get stabbed and buttfucked. I liked OSP. I never got stabbed or buttfucked there. You know what I'm saying? Uh, but, um, the, the cops in the maximum security that are like, they're mainly like more veteran COs.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  They were chill. They did great. Like they, some of them respected. I know a CO who got a whole sleeve done in there by one of the best artists in there. Like his whole sleeve is just prison work and you know, he brought in professional street ink and dude slung him down while he was working his shifts.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  That's kind of cool.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  That shit is hard, bro. That shit is hard and everybody respected that CO. He was super cool.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  So where'd you get that? In prison? Oh, you went to prison?

• 54:36Speaker 03

  Not really.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  I worked there. I worked there. There were, there were captains that came up from being, you know, just a regular officer that could come and sit at every gang table because they were respectful. And like, they would come during meals every once in a while and they'd come sit at my Irish pride table and be like, what's up you guys? Everything going good? Like, what's going on? And, you know, it's the same dude that you could go to if you needed to sell move. Be like, hey, man, I'm thinking about killing my cellie. I'm having intrusive thoughts about stabbing him in his fucking face 38 times. And I'd like to move this other dude into my cell and he'd be like, yep, it's done. You're good. You know, like, and.

• 55:12Speaker 03

  It's like, uh, the Green Mile, that little cocksucker.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:16Speaker 03

  Brought in.

• 55:19Speaker 03

  They, they brought the, the governor's son.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  And he was such a shitter.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  God, what was his name in it?

• 55:26Speaker 03

  Like Tom Hanks, all the time. He's like, no, we gotta treat them with respect. Like.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  Be nice.

• 55:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're just here. Be nice.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  And then they brought that kid in. He's just such a shitter and everyone hated him. That's why the entire prison block like blew up and started being angry at everyone.

• 55:43Speaker 01

  Well, there was a, a female, God, was she a sergeant? I think she was a sergeant, a female sergeant at Snake River that got put on the gang task force. Cause there were so many gang members out at Snake River. They had their own gang task force out there and she was in charge of the gang task force. And she loved to do cell searches and she'd go into your cell and she'd tear all your shit apart. You know, your private.

• 56:05Speaker 03

  Unnecessary.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Unnecessary. You would go back into your cell and you would find pictures of your kids in your toilet.

• 56:11Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck.

• 56:12Speaker 01

  And like, you've got dudes in there doing fucking life who are never going to see their kids again. You know, they haven't seen their kids and that picture of their kid is, that is their child to them. That's all they have of their child. And this bitch just goes in and throws them in the toilet. And, um, she's doing this to gang members. So like three of the gangs got together and they're like, we need to do something about this broad. And like in prison, we don't like woman beaters. So understand that like she pushed the wrong buttons so many times that they got together and they're like, well, none of us want to like catch extra time for this. So they extorted a child to go beat the brakes off this broad.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  And she was like five foot two and like got her ass beat in the hallway, like all the, getting beat up by a, it's cold work. They found the toughest. On that yard and they were like, hey, check it out. This is all three of us, all three of our gangs telling you we're going to stab you into non-existence every time you get out of the hole and we're going to let you live and just keep stabbing you for the rest of your life unless you go beat this bitch up. And that's exactly what happened. She got fucked up, bro. I don't think she did any cell searches after that, though.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  No. Yeah. That's how. That was, that was the cop I was talking about that scrapes weed flakes.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  So.

• 57:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. Fucking out of the carpet just to get a weed chart. Did she quit after that?

• 57:33Speaker 01

  I never saw her again. I assumed that. I, I don't know, bro. They might've, they might've shipped her out to another institution because they'll do that when there's like crazy assaults like that and shit. But we had one dude named Officer Bennett, right? And when you're walking down, so Snake River is nice and it's newish looking and it looks like a college campus, lots of long corridors and you're walking from your unit to Chow and there will be just a bunch of COs lining the walls and they have these little closets and they'll be like inmate, get over here, get in here. And they'll like just pull you over on your way to Chow and they'll strip search you, make you bend over, squat and cough and everything, just on your way to fucking breakfast at 5:30 in the morning. And then on your way back, they'll pull you over again and do that shit.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  And one dude really loved doing it. It was like his whole get down. He was enthusiastic about this shit. His name was Officer Bennett. We called him Officer Benefits because we said his benefits package was looking up dudes assholes. Like there's some strange dudes that end up being COs, man. Like I, I would love to see their hard drive and a psychological workup on some of these dudes.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  So I, I just actually got reminded like it's I, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I, I had a prison story. Obviously I've never been to prison. I saw Eli got very concerned on that. It's like, we do what now?

• 58:49Speaker 01

  This is, this is going to come out during the election anyway. So we're just going to clear the air.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  So my, my grandparents actually met in prison because they both worked for the prison system.

• 58:59Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  And so, yeah.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  One was a prison guard and my grandmother was a prison psychologist. And that was actually one story that she had where it was like, this is the one thing that she remembers and like still has nightmares about, not because something went wrong, but because of what could have, where there was this dude that just went, it was one of her patients, I guess, one of the people that she had been talking to for quite some time, you know, trying to work through some stuff. Just went on a stabbing spree one day, like, I don't know, it was like a shard of glass or whatever it was, just started fucking, he's fucking people up and they cornered him in a cell. And he still had whatever object, a shank, a shiv, a fucking piece of glass, whatever it ended up being. And they kind of were at that catch 22 where like, nobody wants to go in there and take it. But obviously like this guy just shanked four people, you know, that sort of thing.

• 59:46Speaker 02

  And she goes up, she's like five foot nothing, just absolutely not imposing woman of any kind. And she goes in and he's still like, you know, I'm, I'm gonna fuck you up. Don't come near me.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  No, no, not today.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  She reaches through the bars and just holds her hand out and says, give it to me.

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• 1:00:33Speaker 02

  And he does and gives it to her and she pulled it back in.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  She treated him like a human.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  And then after that, she was just like, she's like, why the fuck did I do that? And had like nightmares about it afterward, just getting her fucking wrists ripped to shit and everything.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  Ripped to shit with a bunch of other people's blood on it.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  Oh, gnarly.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  That's one of the worst things about prison is that so in prison, uh, if there's a fight or a stabbing, you're not, you don't look. Everybody like turning and looking and going, oh, there's a fight over there. That lets the cops know that people are fighting and you, it's basically dry snitching, you know? So I'm in, I'm in the canteen line at OSP and it's outside.

• 1:01:12Speaker 05

  A term we learned today.

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  There's like a long.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  Dry snitch, very funny.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  There's a huge line to canteen and it, it'll, there's like four rows going. So it's, you know, I'm standing there and my back is to the, the canteen wall, but there's tons of people and I'm just, it's, you're in a big crowd. And all of a sudden I feel wet shit on my neck, which is never a good feeling when you're just randomly like there's some wet shit. So I go like this and it's blood and I look behind me and this dude's just getting stuck over and over and over again. And I'm like, Turn my back to the dude with the knife doesn't feel good. I have, I already have PTSD. This doesn't feel good. And I'm like, God, it's, there's more wet. There's more wet. You know what I'm saying? And then you have to like step around the dude to get past him when you, when the line starts moving.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  And it took him a while to find the dude. He was fucked up and moaning and shit like that, but that's the type of stuff that happens in prison. And uh, it's one of the hardest parts is, you know, shit will crack off next to you. I, I am hypervigilant. Because I went in with, uh, you know, PTSD. So not looking when there's combative shit going on is counterintuitive to like, my, my mental fucking weirdness.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  To fucking everybody. I'm sure like to some degree, but especially in your case.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  Especially this.

• 1:02:30Speaker 01

  The thing is, you know,

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

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• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  You know what's cool is that

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  Walk down the aisle. Do not look.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  So Jeopardy at four, yeah?

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  I have tons of people in my community that watch me that are correctional officers. And they never get mad when you talk shit about correctional officers that suck. They're always like, most of them suck. That's why I quit that fucking job. Like they're like, I trusted the inmates more than I trusted my fucking coworkers. You know what I'm saying? And so it's like, I can talk shit about the bad coworkers, about the bad CEOs without the CEOs in my community going, hey, you're talking bad about us. Cause they understand I'm not, I'm not talking bad about you. There were some rad CEOs and I'm friends with CEOs to this day.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  I'm, I was friends, uh, in Volusia County with a dude, cause I, I, uh, I would bar back and do security at the, the biker events, like Bike Week in Daytona Beach at the biggest bars. And, um, so one of the dudes that I just knew before I'd even been to jail there, was a CEO and then he sees me come in and he's like, delay, what the fuck? And I'm like, uh, it's all bad. And he's like, all right, cool. What do you need? You want some, have you eaten? You don't look like you've eaten in like a week. Uh, can I get some extra sandwiches? He's like, yeah, you're good, bro. And you know, he'd like look out for me and shit. And I had, there were, there were, uh, ex-military correctional officers that were cool. They'd like, you're not allowed to work out in there. But they, they're

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  They're meatheads, bro. They're like me. They're meatheads and they'd see me in there working out and they'd be like, hey, I'm on shift till four, but after that probably don't do it because the next guy's going to be a dick. And like, I'd have him like dude would like every once in a while slide me a protein shake and shit like that out of his lunch. Like there's good ass people that work in that profession, just like there's good ass cops and there's ones that, you know, probably should eat a dick and fall off a ledge. They can eat dirty dog shit and die twice and I wouldn't cry about it.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  I had a, uh, there was a summer camp that I went to when I was in like high school, you know, whatever, like one of those where one of the coolest counselors we had, his name was Uncle John, but he was a South Carolina correctional officer. So he was a, uh, he, he worked in the prison system there and he was there always just like very stern, but very fair. And he'd joke around, he'd treat everybody like fucking adults, which is the cool part. And, uh, they basically at one point he had mentioned that like, oh yeah, my treat, my, my trick is like to be in the cool counselors, I treat you all like fucking inmates.

• 1:05:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  He's like, that's, I treat you exactly the way I treat my inmates. It's like stern, fair, joke around, but like, these are the fucking rules and this is this and I have to make sure that all, you know, 40, 50 of you are in this place at this time and that place at that time and anything in between. Like this is just like prison.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  I have a lot of people ask me, tell me like, yo, I'm going up for a job for a correctional officer. What advice can you give me? And it's FFC. Be firm, fair and consistent. Don't let anybody push you around at all. Do not give an inch, but be fair and be consistent. If you joke around with somebody one day and then they joke around with you the next day and then you like are in a bad mood because you didn't get your duck sick, you know, the night before or something. Don't go and wrap them up and throw them in the hole. Cause when they come out, you're going to have issues with them. Just be consistent across the board. Try to leave that shit at home, at home and try to leave your job in that prison before you go home to, to your family, you know, it's just, it's basic shit, but.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  Ask, tell, make. Ask, tell, make.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:06Speaker 03

  Like, I don't, I don't know that's fucking easy.

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  Ask, tell, make?

• 1:06:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  Ask somebody to do something.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  You ask someone to do something. If they don't do that, you tell them to do something and then you make them do it.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Okay.

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  Like you don't have to start off with make. You, you do ask, tell, make.

• 1:06:27Speaker 03

  Like you don't have to be a fucking cocksucker asshole at the beginning of the conversation. So baton is step three, not step one. Yeah, it's ask, tell, make.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  I know this is no fun.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  We had an incident.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  Give me the one you call riding.

• 1:06:45Speaker 03

  Make.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  I live.

• 1:06:47Speaker 03

  Daddy, no.

• 1:06:50Speaker 03

  I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here.

• 1:06:54Speaker 01

  I live about, uh, seven miles outside of the city limits where I live and the street that we live on, the road we live on is people just gun it. It's a 55, but people do 80, 90 out there all the time. We had a dude that I was literally on a live stream and I thought there was thunder. This dude was driving and apparently he, he had just gotten in a fight with his wife. He had had mental health issues and addiction issues and he had been in prison before. And this fight with his wife was really bad and he sped up, the drivers behind him said he sped up to well over a hundred. And he just swerved off the road, straight into a tree in our front yard, right at the front of our property.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  Hit the tree, the tree snapped in half. His truck went flying, tumbling through the front of our property and didn't stop till it hit blackberry bushes. Like this dude willingly did this, like this dude decided to do this. So it was really tragic. Like at first I, I ran out as soon as I realized it wasn't thunder and ran over and the first thing I saw was there was a car seat in the truck. And I was like, holy fuck, no. So we were out looking in the blackberry bushes to see if we could find a baby, bro. Like it was, it was fucked up. Um, there was no baby with him that day though. Uh, we found that out when his wife eventually showed up because she was driving around looking for him and she just lost her shit, but almost every sheriff's deputy.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  That we had out there showed up and where I live, the deputies work in the jail. And so a lot of them had graduated from working in the jail to being field officers. And I knew at least like three fourths of them from being a frequent flyer in that jail 10 years before. And all of them were like,

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  Flyers wild work.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  Delay, what's up? So one of the last times that I went in there, Officer Simpson, you're rad, by the way. Thank you for always getting me to the kitchen where I can eat good and use bags of beans to do curls. But she said, Delay, do you know how many times you've been here? Just for reference, she's like, I'm telling you this because I don't think you're a piece of shit, but I do think you're fucking retarded. You've been here 42 times.

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• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Heck, yeah. What else would I use other than booking.com?

• 1:09:57Speaker 05

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• 1:10:05Speaker 01

  Do you understand how bad that is? And I'm like, yeah, that's, that's pretty fucking bad. But um, almost every like deputy that was out in my front yard, we own a big chunk of property. They, they knew me. So I'm out there talking with them and a lot of them are like, I see you on YouTube all the time, bro. I'm like, hey, that's what's up. That's cool. And all of them, super cool, super chill, super respectful. Just, you know, nice people met, seeing him again under horrific circumstances. The poor wife was just broke down, like laid out on the street.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  Obviously, I'm assuming the guy didn't make it.

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Yeah, no, not at all. He was, he was so. When the first person arrived on scene, they said he was still breathing, but barely.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  So it was.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  That's rough.

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  It was super tragic. His family was showing up to our, our, uh, front of our property for weeks after that and everything. And I think they've still got a cross out there and some flowers that they update every once in a while.

• 1:11:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, dude, a hundred will do that real fucking fast.

• 1:11:07Speaker 01

  Bro, he snapped, he snapped a tree that was probably three and a half feet wide with his truck. He hit it so hard, thing just went, and then he went airborne and hit another tree about six feet up in the air with his truck. It was crazy, dude.

• 1:11:26Speaker 05

  Fucking wild.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:28Speaker 03

  Jesus, Jesus.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  There's a buddy of mine recently that just, uh, just, it was probably a couple of months ago, ended up getting a real bad wreck. Like him and his employee were just on the way back from, uh, back from the shop and they're going around a couple of corners during like, I don't know, my F1, uh, F150 or something like that. Or like older, older school truck, go around a corner and there's just some fucking drug dealer is like whipping a hundred, a hundred miles an hour, 80 miles an hour around a corner, head on fucking collision.

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  Holy shit.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Thankfully my, my buddy and his friend both survived, but I, the drug dealer was like, just instantly fucking dead.

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  Well, I can say this, it's, it doesn't make me racist because I used to be a drug dealer, but eh.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  I'll put it this way, if I had to, which one would I rather have survived? I'm glad my buddy's.

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  Your friends. You're, I don't even know them. Fucking your friends all day, bro.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  But I mean, looking at the, looking at the, the pictures from the crash, I'm shocked anybody survived. Cause you do the mental math, adding those numbers together. That's fucking insane.

• 1:12:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. Not a, mm hmm. Going fast in a car unless you know what you're doing. Don't go fast in a car.

• 1:12:36Speaker 03

  What, what sucks about like some of the worst shit I ever saw as a cop, like a police officer will get into a wreck and like they'll be going 30 miles an hour and die, but drunks, when fucking drunks get into wrecks, they'll kill a family of four. And the drunk will survive like a lot of the time. Yeah, they bounce around in the car. And it just sucks like seeing a family of like two, three, four, like, oh, like kids and stuff dead. But this stupid drunk is still like wakes up and was like, whoa, what I do?

• 1:13:12Speaker 02

  Dude, I've seen body cam footage that has pissed me the fuck off where it's, I think it was the, the one I'm thinking of right now is it was a female. I don't know if you've seen that one.

• 1:13:20Speaker 05

  Hospital?

• 1:13:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, the one at the hospital where she's, she just killed, I think, multiple people.

• 1:13:26Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, that chick.

• 1:13:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 05

  Can I go home?

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:32Speaker 05

  Can I call my dad?

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got you just, you're going to jail for murder. Like you fucking killed someone.

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  You're gonna go to prison, bitch. You're not, you're not going to school.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  But it's just a lack of, like, the lack of empathy, the lack of accountability.

• 1:13:47Speaker 01

  Do you think she was just drunk or do you think and not being able to wrap her mind around it? Because I know that when you go into shock after a situation like that, your mind doesn't allow you like. I, I know that like when I found out that one of my kids had died, like I was in shock and it wasn't real and I couldn't really grasp anything. It was like. The world wasn't real for a little bit. Do you think she was in shock or do you think it was just truly just her being a piece of shit?

• 1:14:11Speaker 05

  She blacked out and like just being a piece of shit because they had also.

• 1:14:15Speaker 02

  Well, they kept telling her though.

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:14:16Speaker 02

  Telling her like you fucking killed someone. You're not going anywhere.

• 1:14:19Speaker 05

  What, what? And they just had, ah, man, this is a couple of months ago.

• 1:14:24Speaker 05

  Kid, he was nineteen, twenty, drunk with his girlfriend, hit another car. Didn't realize it and smashed into a car in a parking lot. So cops, everyone show up. They don't realize it is this family over here with the dead dad and a little girl that is a parking lot away. And the cops are interviewing him. He's like, oh, sorry. I don't know what happened. I did have a drink or two. Blah, blah, blah. She's fine. We're fine. That, the car, thank God there's no one in there. Yeah, I'm good. I, I'm gonna be a lawyer. So what's your name, officer? And he's like.

• 1:14:56Speaker 03

  No, no, I, I, I just did that one.

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:15:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. So the, yeah, and then he goes into, you're just racist. Why, why are you trying to take me into custody?

• 1:15:09Speaker 02

  Was the guy, wait, like, what? He was claiming racism?

• 1:15:13Speaker 03

  He was the passenger and he was claiming racism. And yeah, he was like, I'm, I'm, I'm an attorney. I'm, I'm gonna be an attorney. I'm doing, do all this stuff.

• 1:15:22Speaker 01

  Hold on, let Eli say it. What, what ethnicity was he?

• 1:15:25Speaker 05

  Well, this one, I made, which one was this one? Cause I had a white kid. This one's a white kid that.

• 1:15:30Speaker 03

  This is a black kid.

• 1:15:31Speaker 05

  Oh, so this is a different story.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Oh shit, fuck.

• 1:15:33Speaker 05

  So this is a white kid who's like, oh, blah, blah, blah. He's asking the cops for their badge numbers. And all the cops are being very cool because they just think, oh, this kid is twenty and this, okay. One cop was at the other wreck with the dead dad and the little baby. Baby's alive, dad's not.

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 1:15:51Speaker 05

  Cop walks over and he's like, hey, officer, can I get your badge? Sorry about this. He's like, you fucking piece of shit. Don't. I will fucking hit you right now. And then the other cop's like, yo, what's going on? He's like, he fucking killed a family over there. Instantly switches like, and all the cops are no longer this dude's friend. And his face goes, uh oh, I fucked up. Didn't realize he hit a family's car on the other side to hit where they are. I haven't seen that one. Holy shit.

• 1:16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, the one I'm talking about, it's like a black kid that starts saying racism. Cause he was with a girl and the girl hit two pedestrians, like they were driving down the road drunk and just fucking. Just murmured these fucking two chicks walking down the road.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  Oh, the one I, the one I sent you on, uh, that you apparently had already done on stream. Uh, the other, that one kind of like, that one was really hard to watch because the full body cam is. A lot of, it, it focused a lot on the officers afterward and like their mental health and them talking to each other, like processing what they saw. But it was pulling over that one. It was like some black chick. I don't remember what state it was in. Uh, but she had had the bodies of her kids in the back, in the trunk of her car decaying.

• 1:16:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was her sister's kids.

• 1:17:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, she had like dick, because they kept asking her, what is that smell? She's like, oh, it's meat or it's this or whatever the fuck she said.

• 1:17:07Speaker 05

  She was just driving around with it?

• 1:17:09Speaker 02

  In, in trash bags in the trunk.

• 1:17:11Speaker 03

  She was living out of her car and the two kids were in the trunk of the car. And she had been telling her sister for months that like, yeah, I'm taking care of your kids. I'm taking care of them. They're fine. And she had let them starve to death and they were just dead in the fucking trunk of her car.

• 1:17:27Speaker 02

  And it, it was like, it was in trash bags in like, um.

• 1:17:31Speaker 05

  This is like Florida summer heat.

• 1:17:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, they they were in.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  They were in luggage bags or whatever. And as soon as like the cops just like, what, what is that? They're like pushing, pushing, pushing.

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  They get. She's like, I'm homeless. My pH is a little off.

• 1:17:44Speaker 03

  Well, no, that's what she was saying. She was like, I was home. I'm homeless. I'm living in my car. Like, I don't know what that smell is.

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  That smells bad and we need to look into it. They open the trunk, they unzip it and you could see the cop immediately draws just it. It's a switch that that flips and he just.

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, I couldn't.

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  Like, get the fuck on the ground. There's fucking kids. There's kids in that trunk.

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  I don't, I don't know.

• 1:18:07Speaker 03

  I couldn't finish that video, dude.

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  I wouldn't either. I haven't finished it to this day. Like, it was.

• 1:18:12Speaker 03

  I was watching it on stream because someone said, watch this traffic stop. And I was like, all right, I'll watch this silly traffic stop. And I started watching that. Like, I couldn't finish it.

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  I don't know how cops don't just end them.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  Just shoot them.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  I I would not be a good cop because I find dead kids, bro. You're you're fucking not going to jail, bro. You're going to the fucking morgue. I find dead kids like I don't have it in me.

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  And it was it was fucked up because this particular video again, which I I liked this element of it, but it's still it's very hard. Like, there's there's very few things like we watch death on the internet all day long. There's very few things that you could say are just genuinely hard to stomach.

• 1:18:46Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  And just the way the cops are talking to each other afterward and and you could tell they're like, you can watch someone process having experienced that in real time. It's just very, it's difficult.

• 1:18:57Speaker 03

  That was that was one of the things that maybe not want to police anymore.

• 1:19:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:01Speaker 03

  I ran into a dude who ran a a local church in Spartanburg. And he had just been like, my kids, fuck. It was it was, yeah, it wasn't like I didn't find a dead kid, but we figured out this guy was like actually just like fucking with kids all the time.

• 1:19:17Speaker 02

  And you took him in or like what?

• 1:19:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, the the investigators that was with took him in, but I had to take a step back from there and be like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. I'd rather make YouTube videos.

• 1:19:28Speaker 01

  Cody, coming from a situation where you were an officer and you were exposed to that type of stuff, how often do you find stories or videos that you have to just tap and go, no, I'm not, I'm not doing this?

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• 1:20:08Speaker 03

  Like when it comes to my YouTube content?

• 1:20:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:20:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's, there's a lot of stuff I don't fucking touch, man.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  Like there's the bunker situation in Alabama. Are you hip to the bunker that they found in Alabama where they've been taking kids?

• 1:20:23Speaker 03

  I'm not.

• 1:20:23Speaker 01

  And

• 1:20:24Speaker 03

  I grew up, like I was raised in Alabama. What part are you talking about?

• 1:20:28Speaker 01

  Um, God, I forget the, I forget the name of the county, bro, but it was a big story. They've been, for over a year, they've been taking kids down to this. It was a, it was a storm shelter.

• 1:20:41Speaker 03

  Hostage crisis?

• 1:20:42Speaker 01

  An underground storm shelter and they were taking kids down there, drugging them.

• 1:20:49Speaker 01

  They were tying them to a bed and having people Bibb County, that's it. I've tried four different times to sit down and record full length on that and it triggers me out so bad, bro. I can't do it. It's a story that's like, my community keeps asking me to do it and every time I do, I start getting into the details of what they were doing to these kids. I can't fucking do it, bro.

• 1:21:13Speaker 03

  What, yeah, that, that was the one that I couldn't finish on stream the other day watching the kids, but like what ended up happening with the one Alabama you're talking about?

• 1:21:22Speaker 01

  So they've got like

• 1:21:23Speaker 03

  Just southwest of Birmingham, Alabama.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, they've got six or eight people in custody right now and more and more details keep unfolding about it. Um, they were charging like $200 a pop for people to come and just kids while they were drugged and tied to a fucking filthy mattress.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  Jesus fuck.

• 1:21:41Speaker 01

  They were keeping kids down there for months at a time, just cycling through these kids and it had been going on for over a year.

• 1:21:50Speaker 03

  And there's a ton of people. It looks like they said that as many as 20, 20 more suspects wanted.

• 1:21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:21:58Speaker 03

  Can we, can we please say, bring back public hangings? Like you're sitting in a fucking town square.

• 1:22:06Speaker 01

  We were just talking about this on Say Hi.

• 1:22:08Speaker 03

  It was just like, that used to be a big thing back in the like cowboy days, of course, like.

• 1:22:13Speaker 05

  Woodchipper's live and you just chuck him in.

• 1:22:16Speaker 03

  Or just like the town hang, like people would come for miles around and you would have like a picnic and you would have fun.

• 1:22:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:22:24Speaker 03

  The dude that had killed someone that week would get hung from the town square. Like you can see them, the, they were like, like what they did.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  I feel like that's.

• 1:22:33Speaker 03

  They get hung.

• 1:22:34Speaker 02

  That's like the one thing we can all agree on is like, all right, if we know for a fact that you've been doing that to children, that's, that's pretty universally agreed, no matter where you are on the political spectrum, I would think anyway.

• 1:22:45Speaker 03

  Like.

• 1:22:48Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  That is cause for a, for a public hanging.

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  Trump is a businessman and there's a way to sell this and there's a way to pay off our national. That's what I was about to say. Partner with Dana White, bro. Bring back Gladiator shit. You know what I'm saying? Build a coliseum, Chomo battles, bro. Like Chomo battles, Chomo's battle each other, Chomo's battle like a gorilla on bath salts, wearing armor and armed, you know, just.

• 1:23:16Speaker 02

  And whoever wins gets the right to a quick and easy hanging.

• 1:23:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, I mean, you could even tell them you're going to let them go and then just execute them and, and fucking everybody laughs, hee hee sucker.

• 1:23:26Speaker 03

  Dude, if I got the, if I got the choice.

• 1:23:28Speaker 01

  Pay-per-view, bro. Imagine the contract, imagine the fucking contract you could get on fucking having that. Like, didn't he just contract out UFC for like?

• 1:23:38Speaker 03

  Oh Hulu.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:39Speaker 03

  Paramount.

• 1:23:40Speaker 01

  Paramount, yeah. Paramount just paid, bro. I mean, if, if you're talking billions, you can get Trump on board with killing Chomos. I, I just think that you can.

• 1:23:49Speaker 03

  Is that what a Chomo is?

• 1:23:50Speaker 01

  A Chomo was a child, yeah. Yeah, dog. Yeah. So there's, there's like, so since, you know, YouTube is so, I, since I do a lot of shorts, I have to, I can't, they don't like me to use the word pedophile or, uh, you know, child, anything like that. So we use a lot of euphemisms like Chomo slides, some of the times, uh, kindergarten commando, playground extraction specialist, diaper sniffer.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  Dear God. Uh, those are, those are far worse in my opinion.

• 1:24:17Speaker 01

  Far worse. Uh, rock spider, which is what the Australians call them because, uh, rock spiders are spiders that crawl into very small crevices.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  Oh, geez.

• 1:24:27Speaker 01

  Goofs is what they call them in Canada. Nonsense is what they call them in the UK.

• 1:24:31Speaker 05

  With goofs, how is that? Cause everything, you big goof. That, that's what's.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  Bro, the thing is, is if you call somebody from Canada a goof, they're on and cracking, bro. They're fighting. They go from really like.

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  I'm not your buddy, pal.

• 1:24:45Speaker 05

  Not your pal.

• 1:24:46Speaker 01

  What are you about today?

• 1:24:47Speaker 02

  Friend, pal.

• 1:24:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. You call him a goof and that's, that's on and fighting words. Cause you're calling him a.

• 1:24:53Speaker 02

  Okay. So, so we take the Chomos. Obviously we hate them, but we take the dudes who are on death row for like murder. They still suck, but we have them fight the Chomos. And so the dudes on death row, maybe they can like get some canteen shit.

• 1:25:08Speaker 01

  A bucket of KFC, dog.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:25:10Speaker 01

  They would do it for a bucket of KFC. They would do it just to do it, to be honest with you, but like incentivize it. Get them, you know, like you get a two for 10, dog.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, the, the easy one, the like the free space in bingo is to take these, uh, the violent illegals that have, you know, committed murder or for something like that while they're here in the United States. And then just put them up against each other pay-per-view style with Alien versus Predator. Yeah. That's like, that's the free space.

• 1:25:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely. You know, we could do like, and it could be, you could keep it interesting, like versus steamroller. That's a win versus.

• 1:25:45Speaker 02

  Man versus car.

• 1:25:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:47Speaker 02

  Car wins again.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  There's so much different.

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Versus belt sander. I just, oh my god.

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, like, so like, we have a, you know, I have a huge wood shop. My dad's a professional stair builder and has been for, you know, thirty, forty years. So we've got a huge belt sander and I've often just thought like, we could just take some off the top. We could just slide them through there, take some off the top. It's, you know, all you have to do is just get them on there and they'll just, it'll just suck them in and just, just take, take a nice little, take a nice little half inch off that bitch with some eighty grit.

• 1:26:21Speaker 02

  If I did a video where we took one of these, like the human ballistic dummies, and just shoved it into a wood chipper, would you want to collab on that?

• 1:26:29Speaker 01

  So very much, bro. So very much. I've been thinking about that. I've been thinking about things that I could do with a wood chipper. Once I finally attain a wood chipper of my own. I know that pigs are the closest thing to a human body. And I was thinking like, you know.

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  YouTube account monetized.

• 1:26:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fuck myself on YouTube on that.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  Maybe a ballistic dummy though, maybe. Yeah, no. YouTube's never had a problem with ballistic dummies because it's all just like, it's for science. It's, you know, what would happen?

• 1:26:53Speaker 01

  Bro, I want to have that so bad. It has to be feet first. That's.

• 1:26:58Speaker 02

  They're very expensive. I think for the full, for the full body, I want to say it's like seven grand or whatever. We can, for the sake of science, I think we could.

• 1:27:06Speaker 01

  We'll figure something out, bro. We'll collab on that. We'll figure that out for sure.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  I'll get on the horn with ballistic dummy labs later. We'll see if we can figure this out.

• 1:27:13Speaker 01

  Let me know.

• 1:27:14Speaker 02

  I need to buy a wood chipper too, though. Like I said, we need to, we need to get you chippy.

• 1:27:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I need to, I need to have a Mr. Chippy. I'm loving the AI videos of me that are coming out with me and Bigfoot and Yeti. And like, the three of us are like hunting and Bigfoot and Yeti are feeding them into Mr. Chippy. And like the dude who's doing it, his name's Big True and he does great AI videos. Like they, he even nailed my tattoos and shit.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  Really? Yeah. I was actually, when you were telling me that earlier, I was wondering how they do the tattoos. If they just do generic tattoos or like uses yours.

• 1:27:45Speaker 01

  Nailed it so well. Like Big True is so good at this and.

• 1:27:49Speaker 02

  Be weird.

• 1:27:50Speaker 01

  It's super weird, bro. I've done reaction lives to them and it's just, it's crazy watching myself hanging out with Bigfoot. I mean, they're basically. typically kin folk anyway. And then Yeti and like they're rolling up to, you know, Chomo's houses and kicking their doors in and grabbing them and bringing them and dog walking them on a leash down the street and shit to take them to the, the wood chipper. And the wood chipper has, the wood chipper has JD delay 5150 painted on the side and blood and they're just feeding Chomos into it and shit. It's fucking wild.

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  Dear God.

• 1:28:24Speaker 01

  So I made a Mr. Chippy shirt that's available on bunkerbranding.com.

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  It's super cool that I, I got to get in with you guys on that. This is actually the bunker branding make afraid again shirt with the wood chipper, the bloody wood chipper in the middle of the woods on it. It comes with sleeves if you buy it.

• 1:28:40Speaker 02

  I like it to horror.

• 1:28:41Speaker 01

  Yeah. You can take the sleeves off if you want. I did.

• 1:28:45Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 1:28:46Speaker 05

  That's fucking great. I've not seen that one.

• 1:28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, man. Yeah. This is so the make freight again is something we've been doing for a while. Uh, the hat too is available at bunker branding, but this was, uh, you know, we needed to mix the wood chipper in with that. And I felt like this just worked.

• 1:29:01Speaker 05

  Fucking killed that one. Holy shit.

• 1:29:04Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 1:29:05Speaker 05

  What a positive episode.

• 1:29:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:07Speaker 02

  Right? I think it's positive.

• 1:29:09Speaker 05

  I know we're getting that.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  Make sure your kids watch this.

• 1:29:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Maybe I, I think it's fucking positive as shit. It was like talking about second chances and how to make the most out of, you know, life and all these opportunities that are given before you fucking awesome. And also if you fuck kids, then we'll, we'll fucking kill you.

• 1:29:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, absolutely. Well, here's the thing, bro, is that there, there are people who deserve second chances and there are people who are just inherently fucking evil.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:32Speaker 01

  And I think that all of us at this table, I think that the majority of people have never had to actually look into the eyes of someone who was inherently fucking evil. But I think that all of us probably have at some point in our life. Um, and those people don't need a second chance. They don't need to be paroled. They need to be taken off the planet.

• 1:29:52Speaker 02

  Well, cause there's certain things like, you know, for killing someone, you can at least have a reason. Like half the, half the people I fucking know have killed someone at one point or the other.

• 1:30:00Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:30:03Speaker 02

  There's no reason for the other thing.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  No, there's not.

• 1:30:06Speaker 02

  There's not a single fucking one.

• 1:30:07Speaker 01

  There are justifiable reasons to kill somebody. There's never a justifiable reason to assault somebody. A justifiable reason to kill somebody could be that they assaulted somebody. It's, it's pretty simple. There's, but there's also, you know, you, you get to talking about child killers, baby killers, people who kill innocent women or innocent men. You know, that definitely needs to be dealt with, but I just, there's something different about taking a life. As opposed to getting aroused and taking the innocence from a child. It's not even full. We were talking about it. I don't even think that it's fully a sexual thing. I think it's about power.

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  It's about control and I think that they get off from taking, stripping the innocence from something innocent. Because even if you castrate these people, they're still going to reoffend. And the studies show that categorically across the board.

• 1:31:03Speaker 02

  They used to chemically castrate people.

• 1:31:05Speaker 01

  Well, and they're trying to bring that back, but even that is ineffective because people, even if they can't get bricked up. They're going to use fingers, mouths, objects, like the stuff that's in every single fucking drawer in this kitchen, for God's sake.

• 1:31:18Speaker 02

  Is it, um, the, I guess the recidivism rate on that, is it lowered if you chemically castrate them or like what? Is it literally just that they're that fucked up that it doesn't even bother them?

• 1:31:29Speaker 05

  Well, we, again, it's no difference in trying to cure a serial killer. It is so far gone on their psyche. I truly believe there's like, most serial killers, at least the smart ones are like, but not Ed Gein. Uh, who's the tall one? The really high IQ one?

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  Kemp.

• 1:31:50Speaker 05

  Kemp, uh, yeah.

• 1:31:52Speaker 01

  Edward Kemp.

• 1:31:53Speaker 05

  Ed Kemp. He was the first to say, he's like, how do you cure this? What do you do? He's like, oh, you have to kill us. We're fucking shooters. That's it. This is the only way to cure us. There is no curing us. This is a dude that has a hundred and sixty IQ, highly intelligent, hunted. This is what he did. I, he truly believes like, there is no curing us. There is not a fucking possible way to do that. You have to end our lives.

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  And I'm, I'm sure that's true for, again, the majority of them, but I'm, I'm just out of curiosity. Like, does the chemical castration have any statistical effect on whether or not they are likely to reoffend?

• 1:32:28Speaker 03

  Why should we even explore that?

• 1:32:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:32:32Speaker 02

  That's why I said.

• 1:32:33Speaker 03

  Them in the fucking head.

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  That's why I said out of curiosity, cuz I'm like, don't get me wrong, I'm on the fucking woodchipper train. Like, if you, I'm sorry, if you are, if you're willing to do that to a fucking 12 year old, you're beyond dead to me. Like, I, the faster we can get you off the fucking planet, the better.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:49Speaker 02

  But.

• 1:32:50Speaker 01

  Well, here's the thing is you cannot fix it, bro. Like, I assume that both of you men have a certain proclivity towards women. Is that a fair assumption?

• 1:32:58Speaker 02

  I think that's pretty fair.

• 1:32:59Speaker 01

  So is there anything I can say to you?

• 1:33:01Speaker 02

  In this context.

• 1:33:03Speaker 01

  Is there, is there anything that I can say to you?

• 1:33:06Speaker 02

  Of age.

• 1:33:06Speaker 01

  Yes, women who are of age. Is there anything I could say to you that would entice you to switch that up, not like women anymore, and just wanna have the back of your esophagus ruined by a purple pipe?

• 1:33:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:33:19Speaker 01

  You can't fix child. They have this thing. They want children. And I don't think it's, like I said, I don't think it's purely sexual. So I don't think it's something we should classify as a sexuality, like, a lot of the left wants to do. I think it's something we should just fucking eradicate. You, you see a child, you wanna take their innocence for sexual gratification.

• 1:33:42Speaker 02

  There's nothing we can do to make you not want that kind of thing.

• 1:33:45Speaker 01

  No, there's not. It's like, i- it's, you know, the same thing.

• 1:33:50Speaker 02

  Their entire life, they are always going to want to do the one thing that.

• 1:33:56Speaker 05

  Okay, so from it, uh, from this article, you're looking at a, compared to the expected rates of 50% of reoffending, which is wild, uh, this goes to 5% from that, but this is again, a reduced, reduced rate to 5% for the study as of right now.

• 1:34:18Speaker 02

  Okay, so they, the, uh, the reoffender rate goes from 50 to 5?

• 1:34:22Speaker 05

  Yes, as of now, but then, how many people don't get caught? Cuz that's one of the things.

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:34:28Speaker 01

  That, that is the, the thing is that they get more adept, and they, I, I think it's, it's just, it's there, it's an opportunistic crime. I think that they're just waiting for a situation. I think, given an opportunity where they know they're not gonna get caught, 100% of them reoffend. So it's a ticking time bomb that's gonna go off on a child. Is there any reason to leave that sitting around?

• 1:34:54Speaker 02

  Nope. Mm hmm. Especially if you've already proven one time. Yeah. They're like, oh, wow. Yeah. Your your impulse control is so bad that you're willing to do like the most despicable thing you can do to a child. Mm hmm.

• 1:35:05Speaker 05

  Mr. Swirly. Okay, that's the part.

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:07Speaker 05

  And we've talked about Mr. Swirly before. You know this one?

• 1:35:09Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:35:10Speaker 05

  Mr. Swirly, like, this is a dude that would travel. He was famous in the Chomo community. And he would post pictures online.

• 1:35:18Speaker 02

  Sentence.

• 1:35:18Speaker 05

  Yeah. He would post pictures with kids after abuse. But his face was swirled. So they called him Mr. Swirly.

• 1:35:26Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:35:26Speaker 05

  And he was known for this. And after a decade, two decades, the FBI, and again, this is famous within that community, FBI, one guy was like, wait, I have an idea. Photoshop, unswirl. He literally just went reverse swirl and it reconstructed the dude's face. And they're like, oh, fuck, that's that's our guy. He was a Canadian. He was traveling to Thailand or Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand, and doing this. And at least 12 young boys. He was part of that they actually charged him with. He was more, he was in more than 300 photographs depicting him with these kids. Now.

• 1:36:06Speaker 02

  300?

• 1:36:06Speaker 05

  300 kids. That's why he was famous. This is fucking widely shared of how many images he was with kids. And he was, oh, my God, look, this dude actually showed his body, not his face. But he showed the evidence. He would just swirl his face. So he became famous in that ring. Now, the fucking, this is why I hate Canada for this one reason. He went back to, uh, he got arrested in Thailand. He did five years in Thailand. So he did five years in Thailand from, or four years, 2008 to 2012, and then he was released to Canada. Once he got to Canada.

• 1:36:44Speaker 02

  What year?

• 1:36:45Speaker 05

  2012.

• 1:36:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:36:47Speaker 05

  He was released immediately because he didn't do it in Canada.

• 1:36:50Speaker 02

  Dear God.

• 1:36:51Speaker 05

  2013, though. Breach of, uh.

• 1:36:56Speaker 02

  He did it.

• 1:36:56Speaker 05

  He did it again. More photos of him with kiddos. So he was arrested at his home and pleaded guilty in October of 2013. They found a child uh, on his laptop and mo- mobile phone. And in 2014, he was sentenced to prison. For three months.

• 1:37:17Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 1:37:17Speaker 05

  And three years of probation. Boom. Then released in December 15. He was sentenced to five years because he got after three months sentenced to five years, five and a half years in prison by British Columbia Court and was later reduced down to 15 months. He was released in March of 2017 and is currently living in Vancouver.

• 1:37:41Speaker 02

  Does he have an address?

• 1:37:43Speaker 05

  No, but I'm sure the internet.

• 1:37:44Speaker 02

  I've just had a curious.

• 1:37:46Speaker 05

  Christopher Paul Neal, like. But that is the thing he is. He has been a repeat of repeat offender each and every fucking time. And Canada did shit. They're like, oh, you did this. This is documented.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  The guy who's.

• 1:37:58Speaker 05

  And do it here.

• 1:37:59Speaker 02

  It. Yeah, the guy who's responsible for ruining children's lives in the hundreds.

• 1:38:04Speaker 05

  Hundreds.

• 1:38:05Speaker 01

  And that's how you end up with people like my friend, the Alaskan Avenger.

• 1:38:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:09Speaker 01

  That's exactly how you end up with people like Jason Vukovich, who.

• 1:38:13Speaker 02

  That's the coolest name drop you've done so far. Actually.

• 1:38:16Speaker 01

  Bro, he's, he's the shit, bro.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:18Speaker 01

  That's my guy.

• 1:38:18Speaker 02

  Who, who is that?

• 1:38:19Speaker 05

  So.

• 1:38:19Speaker 02

  Alaskan Avenger?

• 1:38:20Speaker 01

  The Alaskan Avenger.

• 1:38:21Speaker 02

  The hammer guy?

• 1:38:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:38:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:23Speaker 01

  Yes. Uh, and.

• 1:38:25Speaker 02

  He's in prison right now.

• 1:38:26Speaker 01

  No, he's not. Uh, actually, um, so we, he had a parole hearing coming up and me and him had been talking for a couple of years. And I worked up a, uh, action plan where he was going to be working for my recovery coaching company. Um, and we're going to have community support and you know, I'm pretty decent at making these action plans for parole.

• 1:38:47Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:38:48Speaker 05

  Wait, wait, let's take a step back. Is he the guy that hit?

• 1:38:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:38:52Speaker 05

  People with a hammer?

• 1:38:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, he used the sex offender registry to, uh, locate child offenders.

• 1:38:58Speaker 02

  People is a wild word.

• 1:38:59Speaker 01

  It is. It really is. Um, let's show homosexuals, uh, pederists, convicted pederists. Uh, and so he would go to their houses and go in and smash them up with the hammer. Now he didn't kill anybody.

• 1:39:12Speaker 02

  And he used the sex offender registry to go in.

• 1:39:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I used it like a to do list, bro. It was fucking great. Uh.

• 1:39:18Speaker 02

  Sounds like a cool guy.

• 1:39:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, but he, he did it because it happened to him as a kid. And so, you know, he.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  Wasn't it his, his brother too, or something like that?

• 1:39:28Speaker 01

  It happened to his brother as well, and his brother ended up getting out of the situation. And they sent him home with his dad who had just been convicted of doing that shit to his brother and given probation. So. He was finding these dudes mashing them out. We got him when he went to the parole board.

• 1:39:47Speaker 02

  Mashing them out is wild.

• 1:39:48Speaker 01

  Just mashing them out.

• 1:39:52Speaker 01

  Hey, you strike him a whole bunch.

• 1:39:53Speaker 02

  The last thing you hear on this earth is it's clobberin' time.

• 1:40:01Speaker 01

  He had.

• 1:40:02Speaker 02

  Bonk.

• 1:40:03Speaker 01

  Bonk, bonk. He had 10 years left to do. Yeah, it's potato time. We're mashing them out.

• 1:40:13Speaker 01

  He had 10 years left to do. The parole board gave him back five years and that put him eligible for house arrest. So he ended up, we talked to the house arrest people, let them know what he was going to be doing. He was going to be working as a recovery coach, yada, yada, yada. They let him out and me and my wife flew out to Alaska and I taught him how to use an iPhone because he'd been locked up for so long. He didn't know how to use an iPhone, taught him how to make content. He's a YouTuber. He's approaching a hundred thousand on YouTube.

• 1:40:41Speaker 03

  Um, you, you did your research with this guy too. Like he, he didn't do like really fucked up shit. He just wanted to kill pedophiles, right?

• 1:40:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, he was just hunting, bro. He has a criminal record where like, you know, like petty, petty thefts.

• 1:40:55Speaker 03

  I was gonna say like, yeah, he probably had like.

• 1:40:56Speaker 01

  Stuff like this.

• 1:40:57Speaker 03

  He, he didn't have any fucked up in his background.

• 1:41:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:41:00Speaker 03

  Like nothing gnarly.

• 1:41:01Speaker 01

  No, nothing at all. Nothing.

• 1:41:03Speaker 03

  He just went back to his childhood and was like, no, these people are gonna get fucked up.

• 1:41:07Speaker 01

  Yep. And he's doing really, really incredibly well. Uh, he works construction and does his YouTube thing and does, uh, recovery coaching. Brandon, go, Brandon.

• 1:41:17Speaker 02

  No, you saw the, it's gonna be very hard for you.

• 1:41:22Speaker 02

  That was my second thought.

• 1:41:23Speaker 01

  Yes, he does have a hammer.

• 1:41:25Speaker 02

  My first thought was it's gotta be really car, uh, really hard as a recovery coach for most of the time with what you say is like, look, don't go back to a life of drugs. Don't go back to the things that put you in prison. To this guy, you're like, well,

• 1:41:40Speaker 02

  you'll go back to jail.

• 1:41:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:42Speaker 02

  He has a bible with a hammer.

• 1:41:43Speaker 01

  He's actually.

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  Opens it up. He's, he's doing the, dude, he's doing the John Wick in his basement with a sledgehammer to break up the concrete to break out the smaller hammers.

• 1:41:54Speaker 01

  He's actually already gone back to jail since they let him out.

• 1:41:59Speaker 05

  That's amazing.

• 1:42:03Speaker 02

  Sorry, that was that was burning a hole in my brain. What was that?

• 1:42:06Speaker 05

  Your friend, your friend.

• 1:42:09The Fat Electrician?

  Sledgehammer?

• 1:42:11Speaker 05

  To pull out little hammers is fucking great. Your buddy's about to have a whole bunch of artworks.

• 1:42:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:17Speaker 01

  The wild shit is he's already been back to jail since they let him out on house arrest for shit that he said on YouTube.

• 1:42:22Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:42:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, so he was out on house arrest and

• 1:42:25Speaker 02

  Fucking Canada shit?

• 1:42:26Speaker 01

  Well, he was, he was maybe getting dangerously close to inciting people to violence towards on YouTube. And he needed to be reined in a little bit, but because legally he was getting close. And so he's, he's straightened that out and he's readjusted his approach. And um, so he's doing really incredibly well now. I'm really proud of him. After spending, you know, over a decade in prison and having a lifetime of trauma and shit like he used his time in prison to, to address his traumas and to get clean and to find recovery and to

• 1:43:04Speaker 01

  like this dude is like theologically, this dude has read like every religious book out there and he's like explored and educated himself. And you know, he's out and he's really helping his community now and he's also reaching people on a global level through social media.

• 1:43:21Speaker 02

  What's his, uh, his major like outreach? Like what's his, what's his thing? What does he do?

• 1:43:25Speaker 01

  So his thing is he, um, he speaks a lot on child endangerment and you know, on how to protect your kids. Um, and he does a lot of the same type of stories that, that I do. He'll do some of those stories, you know, about, but he comes at it from a less, um, let's throw them in the wood chipper approach and more like parents, this is what you can do to try to keep your kids safe or

• 1:43:51Speaker 02

  Right, right.

• 1:43:52Speaker 01

  That type of a thing because he definitely can't encourage wood chipper or hammer behavior. He had to get rid of some merch too that had hammers on it.

• 1:43:58Speaker 02

  I was just gonna say, because when you were talking about like, oh, he had to change his approach quite a bit and like, yeah, just change the verbiage. You just have a T-shirt that says hug your local that just has a hammer below it.

• 1:44:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's not allowed to, he's actually not allowed to make merch that has hammers on it.

• 1:44:13Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:44:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's

• 1:44:14Speaker 02

  Is that an official judgment?

• 1:44:16Speaker 01

  It's kind of a thing.

• 1:44:17Speaker 05

  Also, you can't, you can't trace shotgun shells.

• 1:44:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:23Speaker 01

  I love, I love how my friend who's ex law enforcement keeps encouraging me towards firearms.

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  There's no, there's no ballistic data available because you can't trace rifling because there is none.

• 1:44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:36Speaker 02

  That's, I mean, I'm, I'm not encouraging anything. I'm just telling you that's objectively true.

• 1:44:40Speaker 03

  If you're gonna use rifling, make sure you wear gloves because you're not putting your thumbprints on the fucking shells, but whatever, you know.

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  This is just nuggets of wisdom. Just golden nuggets of wisdom.

• 1:44:51Speaker 03

  I don't know what you guys do out there. Pedophiles aren't people.

• 1:44:55Speaker 01

  I, that was one of my favorite shirts that I made when I was with convict clothing before I jumped to bunker.

• 1:45:00Speaker 02

  Convict clothing is fucking wild, dude.

• 1:45:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. It's, it's no longer in existence, but we had the aren't people shirt that was just great. I think I'm gonna bring it back with bunker.

• 1:45:10Speaker 03

  We're best friends, buddy.

• 1:45:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. That's something I've been, I've been saying that for long before I was on the internet. Fuck you, aren't people. In fact, I think, I think it was something that I started saying after, when I got sentenced to prison, the guy who got sentenced before me, he got sentenced for two on a minor charges and it was four year old boys and he got six months in county jail and six months probation. I went in for stealing three fucking Hondas and I got 39 months in prison. I deserved that time. I'm not bitching about the time that I got. I probably should have got more time for that, but that motherfucker should have got a shitload more time than me.

• 1:45:51Speaker 03

  Wait, so wait, you stole a couple of cars and you got what 30, what'd you say?

• 1:45:56Speaker 01

  39 months. It was three cars.

• 1:45:59Speaker 03

  He fucked around with four year olds.

• 1:46:02Speaker 01

  Four year old boys.

• 1:46:03Speaker 03

  How, how long did he get?

• 1:46:05Speaker 01

  Six months in county and six months probation.

• 1:46:09Speaker 02

  That's so, the, the thing that I was just in Massachusetts for an event that was for a, like a pro gun cause, right? Just maybe a couple of days ago. And that was one, one thing I did want us to film is we, we had 3D printed a fin grip. Cause now they, they have the featureless thing up there too, where you can't have, you know, an AR 15 that has access to a pistol grip.

• 1:46:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:31Speaker 02

  And so we had 3D printed a fin grip for it and installed it in the gun and I need it. In the video, like I I need it to where it broke the fin grip off. And like what I just did will get you more more jail time in the state of Massachusetts, or can give you more jail time in the state of Massachusetts than raising a child.

• 1:46:50Speaker 01

  Holy fuck.

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  Like that is, talk about how fucked our laws are. That's absurd.

• 1:46:55Speaker 05

  Dude, it's the idea. Even the other day, it is having a pistol AR, which means it just has the loot back. Then open the brace. Yeah, the brace bust off, putting a vertical foregrip. It's an instantly like five, 10 year felony.

• 1:47:11Speaker 02

  10, uh, according to the NFA, uh, that is 10 years in prison and or uh, two, $250,000 fine.

• 1:47:19Speaker 05

  Front four grip, just a vertical, as vertical though, if it's angled, you're fine. If it's a front vertical instantly that and that's where what the fuck on those laws. I, dude, that's actually really good. Breaking the fin and you're like, and you're a fucking felon.

• 1:47:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, which that that thing that I just did that hurts nobody will get you more jail time in some states than doing that to a child, which is to me, that is just the ju- just the biggest miscalculation of justice you could possibly have.

• 1:47:51Speaker 01

  Absolutely. Absolutely. It's

• 1:47:54Speaker 03

  Why you think I got out of policing, buddy?

• 1:47:57Speaker 02

  I'm like, I'm feeling like my blood pressure in my temples right now, talking about it.

• 1:48:01Speaker 03

  Couldn't stand it anymore. I keep saying like, I got out of it because I I made more money doing YouTube. I got out of it because I couldn't stand what the fuck people were getting charged over other people.

• 1:48:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, so unfair.

• 1:48:13Speaker 01

  Well, and and so police officers are out there doing this work and clearly like they're human beings. Many of them are fathers or mothers and they're out there doing this work because they believe in it because they want to keep their community safe and they They are restricted by the laws that they have, but they still go out and they catch these predators. And then they see these predators get a slap on the wrist. How fucking soul crushing must that be when you had to go in and you had to see that shit actually happen? And then you see the justice system fail and let these predators back out with just a slap on the wrist? That's so fucking insulting.

• 1:48:51Speaker 03

  It's fucking horrific, man. Cause like I'm in the fortunate position where I am right now, like, or back in the day where I'm, I'm a good storyteller. And so I went the YouTube route and I was able to make a career off of that. But like, there's so, like so many police officers to see the same thing, like you're talking about, it's just soul crushing shit. And they, they have to see that every fucking day. And there's nothing they can do about it.

• 1:49:20Speaker 02

  That's why you gotta give shouts out to guys like Colazo or guys like Rich Angry Cops who, you know, the shit he has to deal with on the day to day, just in his job that I think very clearly. And totally affects him, like as SVU as a person.

• 1:49:34Speaker 01

  Bro, SVU is fucking crazy and he doesn't have to do it. Like financially, he doesn't have to be there. He does that because he fucking gives a shit, bro. And then he has the media come after him. Because he gives a shit and he's trying to fucking make his community safer and he's trying to get justice for victims. He could literally just fucking do his fucking YouTube and probably make more money than he's making right now. But he chooses to do the right thing.

• 1:50:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. So, so my, my sister, she's a child crimes investigator. And I wanted to get her out of doing that. And, and so she worked with me for a while and I paid her more than she was making as a child crimes investigator. And she had to go back to like helping kids after, like, like she, she left my company and went back to helping kids after that. Cause she's just like, had to help the kids. And she's one of the type of people, like she was doing, she was, she's, she does this stuff where she acts like she is a like little girl. Yeah. Like she, she uses the, the filters and stuff to make, to look like a 13 year old girl to catch these predators.

• 1:50:47Speaker 03

  And she worked in the for a while and then she went back to that just to keep catching child predators.

• 1:50:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's and you know, like, I have a lot of friends that are doing that and I would really, really fucking like to do some catches. Uh, I would really like to do some catches somewhere where they actually give enough of a shit like, like I did it with, uh, Chris Hansen, uh, in the Blount County Sheriff's Office and the things that they have set up in Alabama. With, um, God, what is that law? You, I'm sure you know the law. Um, it's the, the law where they don't let people out on bond. It's named Anaya, Anaya's law. They have Anaya's law. So by the time they show up, they've already got them fucked. Just them showing up. They don't even have to come into the house. They're already going to get arrested.

• 1:51:34Speaker 01

  They're going to get charged. They already know exactly what their charges are going to be. They're going to face about 15 years. They're not going to get out on bond because they're going to Anaya's law them. And the way that the Blount County Sheriff's Office had it set up was just, it was beautiful. And Hanson does his thing. Um, my friend who runs the X five podcast, Charlie Reese, he's a country musician and in he, he donates a lot of money to the sheriff's department to be able to fund it so that they can do these things that they don't have funds for. Cause it's a tiny sheriff's department in a big county. And, uh, like he, he got him a Belgian Malinois, this fur missile that's just fucking savage. I was like, oh, the dog. And they're like, don't go near that thing. That is not a dog. That is a fucking weapon.

• 1:52:18Speaker 01

  I'm retarded and I like dogs, bro. Like I like all dogs and I'm convinced that every dog will like me, not this dog.

• 1:52:25Speaker 03

  I'll use a light voice and it will follow.

• 1:52:27Speaker 01

  We almost got to see this dog take flight on a bro, like this dude, like it was just because it was raining and they didn't have the dog quite ready yet. But this dude shows up, of course he's, of course he's a high school gym teacher because of fucking course he is trying to meet up with a 15 year old. And he shows up at the house, Chris walks out and he goes running out, makes it to his car. They did a high speed chase, got his ass. He had two pistols on him.

• 1:52:54Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:52:54Speaker 01

  He had a pistol on him to meet up with a 15 year old girl to fuck her for money. And he's a high school gym teacher.

• 1:53:01Speaker 03

  Was it one of his students?

• 1:53:03Speaker 01

  It was not one of his students. It was, it was, it was a bait thing where they had somebody that was over 18 pretending to be 15. Now, While I was there, it was two days and they got six of these dudes, three of these dudes that came, came armed with guns. One pulled the gun out of his waistband. They didn't even know he had it. He's, here's the counter. Chris Hansen's right here. He pulls it out and puts it down on the counter and the cops were about to tackle him before he put it down. They thought they were gonna shoot, they thought he was gonna shoot Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen barely flinched, man. That dude is ice cold. He's ice cold with it, bro. Like, uh, and then when you get in the car with him after these super high adrenaline busts and stuff, he puts on Tom Petty and drums on the steering wheel as he drives

• 1:53:48Speaker 01

  and he's just super calm, like dude's a fucking G for that shit.

• 1:53:51Speaker 03

  So like the first time you met him, did he ever say, have a seat right here JD?

• 1:53:57Speaker 01

  No, actually. JD, it's really good to talk to you. Have a seat. I mean.

• 1:54:00Speaker 03

  You're like, what the fuck did I do? What the fuck?

• 1:54:03Speaker 01

  No, it was, it was kinda like with, with Rich, the first time I met him, he was, he was kinda chill. You know, kinda chill. Rich, Rich could have cavity searched me. I kinda regret that he didn't.

• 1:54:14Speaker 01

  Maybe under different circumstances. He'll always have Paris. I'd been on his, uh, his podcast a couple of times before I flew out there to go do that. Um, and, uh, he's just, he's super chill. He's actually working on, I know that you covered the Schlep Roblox situation.

• 1:54:28Speaker 03

  Yes, sir.

• 1:54:29Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for granting your voice to that and putting more, more voice to that man. Cause that situation is so fucked. Schlep's working with Chris on this thing. I, I had Schlep and Ruben Sim on. Um, Roblox, actually Ruben Sim was exposing how many predators were on there. They sued, tried to sue him for 1.6 million dollars. He's a YouTuber, a youngster with over a million followers. And he was just talking about like, hey, we need to stop. There's a lot of predators on this. And they're like, yeah, we're suing you. But he whooped their ass in court. Um, so, yeah, it was really cool. And the Blount County Sheriff's Office were so professional and so cool with it. We spent two days doing that with them, uh, and that was an amazing thing. I think it would be really

• 1:55:14Speaker 01

  fucking cool to have a Predator Catcher Pepperbox show. I'm just saying, I think it would be fucking great.

• 1:55:21Speaker 03

  Can I, can I talk about Roblox for a minute?

• 1:55:24Speaker 01

  Yes, please.

• 1:55:25Speaker 03

  You're okay with me talking about this?

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, go for it.

• 1:55:27Speaker 03

  I don't wanna get sued by them, but.

• 1:55:29Speaker 02

  Fuck it.

• 1:55:30Speaker 03

  If you have a room like, cause Roblox is divided into rooms.

• 1:55:35Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:55:36Speaker 03

  Where like multiple, like children can go into those rooms.

• 1:55:39Speaker 02

  Servers.

• 1:55:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, like servers. They're they're servers. If you can go into these rooms.

• 1:55:46Speaker 03

  And there's obviously like CP stuff going in there. How can the fucking people that own this platform not go in for three seconds and just delete all these rooms? And ban everyone in there?

• 1:56:01Speaker 01

  They can, but they'll lose money.

• 1:56:03Speaker 03

  Exa- That's what's fucked up.

• 1:56:05Speaker 01

  They can, but they'll lose, and I don't care. Sue me, motherfucker. I've been talking cash shit. I don't give a fuck. I'll win. Just like Ruben Sims punched your bitch ass. Uh, they, they, so they have rooms. Some of these rooms like escape to Epstein Island.

• 1:56:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:22Speaker 01

  And the, the cover for this is a screaming child running from Jeffrey fucking Epstein or Diddy Party Simulator.

• 1:56:31Speaker 02

  So like, when you, when you get in the server, like what is the? Is there like actual sexual content in the?

• 1:56:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're, yeah, they're actually-

• 1:56:41Speaker 02

  Totally behind them.

• 1:56:41Speaker 01

  They're actual adults having simulated sex with kids in here. And also, so to get new stuff in there, you, you, uh, spend, they have their own currency. Roblox.

• 1:56:54Speaker 02

  John knows all about the fucking-

• 1:56:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've, I've spent a lot of money on Roblox for my fucking kids and that's part of why I'm so pissed off about this because there are people out there, there are people out there who are offering kids actively, openly, holding like their, their sign above their head is, is saying, signaling that they'll give you Roblox to meet them on Snap and give them pictures, nudes. So they're buying child-

• 1:57:23Speaker 01

  With their currency and then these kids are getting sextorted where they're they're telling them, hey, I have this picture of you and what you did is illegal and I'll report you to the police unless you give me more images of you. And didn't you say you have a younger sister? And they'll get they'll sextort them into doing other shit with siblings or the household pet.

• 1:57:46Speaker 01

  Shit like that is happening on a daily basis. Kids are getting kidnapped and killed off of Roblox and they are an $89 billion corporation that is prioritizing their profit margins over the safety of the children they sell their product to.

• 1:58:05Speaker 02

  Is there any way for this company to have like IP addresses and whatnot of the users? Like can if if someone was to do some exploration in the actual like the back channels of the company, like, do they have the information of these people that are performing these actions? Oh, 100%.

• 1:58:20Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I'm sure they would.

• 1:58:21Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 1:58:22Speaker 02

  But why the fuck aren't we doing that?

• 1:58:24Speaker 03

  The ones that I was exploring in the video that I did, they were like, it's a public bathroom.

• 1:58:31Speaker 01

  Public bathroom simulator.

• 1:58:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, public bathroom simulator. And there were so many of those rooms where it's like public bathrooms, where it's like, that's where you're gonna like if.

• 1:58:40Speaker 02

  Did you go into them?

• 1:58:41Speaker 03

  No, I didn't go into them. I was just exploring Schlep's things that he was doing. And like, there are so many public bathroom simulators, which is where you would find a vulnerable child. And they have those simulators all over Roblox and all Roblox has to do is go in and just delete them.

• 1:58:59Speaker 01

  There's club simulators where there's private rooms with beds. There's so much sick shit going on inside of Roblox and instead of like, instead of addressing it, they're banning people who are exposing it like Schlep and Ruben Sim and they're suing them or since it didn't work with Ruben Sim, they sent Schlep a cease and desist order instead.

• 1:59:23Speaker 02

  For what? On what grounds?

• 1:59:24Speaker 01

  He was, he was catching off of their platform and they made a, they changed their terms of service and put in a vigilante clause, no vigilante clause.

• 1:59:36Speaker 03

  They said he was revealing personal information. Which I don't think he was doing that. He was just showing what was happening on the platform.

• 1:59:44Speaker 05

  The sheer fact they put in a vigilante clause is wild.

• 1:59:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how they addressed it.

• 1:59:49Speaker 05

  No, this is illegal.

• 1:59:50Speaker 01

  They don't have a no clause, but they have a no vigilante clause.

• 1:59:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, Eli, think about it. We, we start a gaming platform and we, we figure out there's on our gaming platform. What would we do?

• 2:00:02Speaker 05

  Just publicly announce it.

• 2:00:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, announce it, ban them, like show them to the public. Like, these are, this is what's happening. They don't, they just don't do it. They, they go after the people like, that, like Schlep and people like that.

• 2:00:16Speaker 01

  Schlep grew up playing Roblox and at 12 years old, he was groomed by someone on it. So that's why it's his passion. And he went on to work with Alex Rossin and he did some of his busts with Jideon. And they're attacking him for getting six dudes off of their app arrested and charged for what they were doing to children. And they're going after Schlep. It's insanity.

• 2:00:48Speaker 05

  It's fucking wild.

• 2:00:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:00:50Speaker 05

  Especially if that's your product.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  Well, now the state of Louisiana, the, the Attorney General of the state of Louisiana is suing them.

• 2:00:58Speaker 03

  Good.

• 2:00:58Speaker 01

  Representative Ro Khanna is trying to get Congress to act on this, which

• 2:01:06Speaker 03

  What are they trying to do?

• 2:01:06Speaker 01

  Go, Ro, man, like, I know that, I don't agree with Ro on a lot of shit, but the shit I agree with Ro on is, I agree with him. He wanted the Epstein shit revealed. He wants Roblox shut the fuck down. Like, you know, I mean.

• 2:01:22Speaker 03

  What, what, uh, what exactly, what specific things are they pushing for?

• 2:01:27Speaker 05

  Just really quick, when you have a fight, under 13, approximately 39.7 million daily active users under that age.

• 2:01:35Speaker 03

  Every, I thi- I think the one that I read was every child under 16 in the United States, half of them are playing Roblox.

• 2:01:44Speaker 05

  I mean, when you're looking at that number, that is a a staggering number for active users. Forty nine million is.

• 2:01:54Speaker 05

  And also like thirty nine million, it's fucking wild.

• 2:01:58Speaker 03

  It's it's a it's a fun thing to play. It's really cool, but like, how can you not go in like Schlep and those guys did and see, okay, this room is fucked. Why can't we ban them? And they're they're just not doing that shit.

• 2:02:15Speaker 01

  I forget the name of the YouTuber, but he's got like thirteen point three million and his whole, he's built his whole channel off of he's a Roblox player. And it's his whole thing. He's been doing it for years and he just quit. He actually gets paid by Roblox to be a player and he just quit. And he did an a video where he showed people, I'm gonna go in with a fresh account and I'm gonna show you how long it takes to see something inappropriate for children. Within ten seconds of starting a fresh account, he saw a fucking penis.

• 2:02:50Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, the, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

• 2:02:53Speaker 01

  He's got the the

• 2:02:54Speaker 03

  The kid that has a

• 2:02:55Speaker 01

  The beanie and the hair, the hair is not a phase, dad.

• 2:02:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, no shit.

• 2:02:59Speaker 01

  But he, props to him because he's got over thirteen million followers or subs on YouTube and he just gave up what his whole genre is.

• 2:03:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, like like blew his money right there.

• 2:03:11Speaker 01

  Mm hmm. Absolutely. Honestly, I think that like people that follow him should follow him wherever the fuck he goes and whatever the fuck he does just off the integrity of going, you know what? I'm standing with child safety here.

• 2:03:23Speaker 05

  That's wild. Also a fucking problem when it's to that degree. That is a massive issue.

• 2:03:30Speaker 01

  Well, so last year, the FBI released a study saying that Roblox is the number one child safety issue in the country, but who who the fuck has done anything about it since then? Only predator catchers are doing anything about it and the predator catchers are getting fucking attacked by Roblox and

• 2:03:49Speaker 03

  Getting sued by them.

• 2:03:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, imagine going up

• 2:03:51Speaker 03

  And they're a billion dollar

• 2:03:53Speaker 01

  Ruben, Ruben Sim is just a dude with like one point one million on YouTube, bro. And he went up against a eighty nine billion dollar corporation in court and won.

• 2:04:05Speaker 01

  How bad does that have to be for for you to go up against an eighty nine billion dollar corporation and all their lawyers and they're like, no, we're siding with him. Like, that's crazy. And no media coverage. Media silence.

• 2:04:21Speaker 05

  Zero media.

• 2:04:22Speaker 03

  Dude, I just, I just want to see Gladiator shit return.

• 2:04:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro. Like, hey, could we get Luigi Mangione out for just a minute? He just got one last thing to do real quick.

• 2:04:32Speaker 03

  Just want to see those motherfuckers go up against like, people that have been in there for life. Like lifers go up against those dudes.

• 2:04:40Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:04:40Speaker 02

  Large cats.

• 2:04:41Speaker 03

  The Peter, the like lions. This is make it fun.

• 2:04:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:47Speaker 05

  You just have Trump at the very top, just like.

• 2:04:51Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck.

• 2:04:52Speaker 05

  Are you not entertained?

• 2:04:54Speaker 01

  You just triggered a lot of people, dog.

• 2:04:58Speaker 05

  Oh, I think on that note, Cody, we can move to the after show.

• 2:05:03Speaker 02

  On that note.

• 2:05:04Speaker 03

  Bye, everyone. Thank you for joining the unsubscribe show today. We were joined by Eli Double Tab, JD Delay, Brandon Row, myself, Don and Operator. We're gonna be on Patreon. We're gonna be doing the after show here soon. Where can we find you at, JD?

• 2:05:18Speaker 01

  You guys can find me, uh, YouTube, JD Delay fifty one fifty, uh, currently banned on my one point seven million TikTok account, but I have my backup, uh, JD Delay ten seventeen. It's my eighth ban. It's fine. They'll give it back. They're just fucking with me because I won't stop talking about putting some wood chippers. They'll give it back and they'll ban me again. It'll be fine.

• 2:05:38Speaker 02

  Till the next time you threaten the Three Gorges Dam, then they'll, they'll ban you again.

• 2:05:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's just gonna happen. It's, it's just gonna happen. Um, and, uh, hopefully you can find me again on the unsubscribe podcast at some point in the near future.

• 2:05:50Speaker 02

  It's a pleasure to have you, man. It's good to actually be on, uh, be on a show with you.

• 2:05:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, absolutely.

• 2:05:55Speaker 02

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:05:56Speaker 01

  I, uh, I'm really stoked that the four of us got to sit down. This was cool.

• 2:06:00Speaker 05

  We did it. We fucking did it.

• 2:06:01Speaker 01

  Sorry, we stepped into some heavy topics and everything. I hope it's okay.

• 2:06:06Speaker 02

  We should have killed them all.

• 2:06:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's really what it comes down to is they all need to fucking die.

• 2:06:49Speaker 06

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