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3:02 Holly Frey? Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio.
3:13 Tracy V. Wilson? Happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.
3:15 Holly Frey? And I'm Holly Frey.
3:16 Tracy V. Wilson? We returned to the world of Supreme Court cases. Again, I try to space out the Supreme Court cases, but as soon as the random algorithm showed me this clip, it was an audio clip with, you know, a picture in the background of Sotomayor and Sauer having this conversation about thinned, I was like, oh, yeah, I want to talk about thinned right now. Because a lot of people had seen that clip, and I was not sure how many people had any idea what was being discussed in terms of thinned.
3:53 Holly Frey? Right.
3:54 Tracy V. Wilson? So, yeah. Also, I know the last time we had a Supreme Court episode, I said I was gonna do one on Elk versus Wilkins, and I haven't done that yet.
4:04 Holly Frey? How dare.
4:04 Tracy V. Wilson? How dare. I still might, sometime.
4:08 Tracy V. Wilson? The first time I ever heard about this case was back in 2017 on a series from the podcast Seen on Radio, and it was their Seeing White series, which was on the sort of development of whiteness as a concept and the impact that concept has on life in the US today. And I had, since that time, almost a decade now, would periodically return to the idea of talking about this case on the show and then never made it up until now. I re-listened to that one episode of Seeing White, just because I was like, I want to refresh my memory on what exactly they said that made me think, huh, maybe, maybe my show should talk about this eventually.
4:53 Tracy V. Wilson? And Bhagat Singh Thind's son was interviewed on that. And he apparently, like, this was not something that his father ever really talked about. He knew his father as a spiritual teacher. He really didn't know anything about this at all. And when they got into the, the kind of ways that Thind and other people from India would talk about their own race and talk about race in general, while making the argument that they were white so that they could become citizens, there was just, there was a lot of racism involved in those conversations.
5:29 Holly Frey? Right.
5:29 Tracy V. Wilson? And he was like, that is not, that does not sound like my father to me. He did not think of his father as someone to make those kinds of arguments. And there are a number of other podcasts besides ours that have spent sort of more time looking at that part of it, on the sort of the interconnection between different groups of people trying to move to become citizens of live in the United States.
5:56 Holly Frey? Yeah.
5:56 Tracy V. Wilson? And the intersections of these different types of racism involved with that.
6:02 Holly Frey? Well, and there are also things that happened that we talked about in this episode, right? Where like, within the legal framework that exists, you kind of have to go down a path that has racist tones to it and basically be like, I'm not black. You know what I mean? Like, there's inherently a racist element to that, but it's the only path available to somebody.
6:28 Tracy V. Wilson? Right. Yeah.
6:31 Holly Frey? Which stinks. And it kind of gets to that bigger picture that always comes up when people are talking about issues of control and race and marginalized or perceived lower class citizens that like, part of the maintenance of power is turning people that don't have power against one another. And this is like, kind of an elegant way that they managed to do it, which is, it's just troubling and heartacheing. It's like, there's, there's no other way. There's no other path to walk, which stinks.
7:06 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. We didn't use the word socially constructed in this episode anywhere.
7:11 Holly Frey? Yeah.
7:12 Tracy V. Wilson? But this case is sort of an example of how the idea of race is socially constructed, not something that's biologically immutable. And while the court was not sort of making an argument about the social construction of racial categories, but that's basically what, you know, what the court was saying when the verdict was, well, he's not white and a common person knows that. That was sort of the, what it boiled down to. Also, the fact that this was part of a pattern of whether the, the US government has viewed different people as white and how a lot of time that has, that has had to do with like,
7:55 Tracy V. Wilson? whatever was most expedient with what the government wanted in that moment.
8:01 Tracy V. Wilson? Also, the fact that the Supreme Court put out two different decisions in different, like, in a couple of months of each other, that were so contradictory. One of them being like, no, no, no, no, no, only Caucasians can be citizens. And then a couple of months later, no, no, no, no, no.
8:18 Holly Frey? Not that kind of Caucasian.
8:20 Tracy V. Wilson? Not that kind of Caucasian, actually. I, I read some, one of the articles that I read for all of this characterized it as judicial whack-a-mole. It was like, if there had been another case that had come before the court where someone had made a different argument, and that was not somebody the court thought should be a citizen, then they would have come up with some other reason to like, knock out that one part of the definition.
8:43 Holly Frey? Yeah.
8:44 Tracy V. Wilson? One of the things that came up in research that we didn't mention is that Charles Sumner, who we spent three entire episodes, when they were debating the new, the new naturalization law that, that extended the rights of naturalization to Africans and people of African descent. Charles Sumner was trying to get the, the law to just drop racial categories altogether.
9:09 Holly Frey? Right.
9:10 Tracy V. Wilson? Um, and people were like, no, man, you don't, you are, you're not in your right mind thinking we can just drop racial categories altogether.
9:19 Holly Frey? Those are important.
9:21 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
9:22 Holly Frey? To somebody.
9:27 Tracy V. Wilson? There's also a biography of Bhagat Singh Thind. It is called Dr. G, The Life Teachings and Legacy of Dr. Bhagat Singh Thind. I did read the portion of it that is about his biography, because it's more focused on the teachings.
9:47 Holly Frey? Right.
9:48 Tracy V. Wilson? I did read that.
9:51 Tracy V. Wilson? Doing research on the show and ultimately only used it to confirm things like dates and places because it does not read like an impartial or probing account of someone's life. It is a lot more like a tagiography. It's very laudatory in how it talks about him. I think it was commissioned by his son, so that's not fully surprising, but if anyone went looking for more information and found that book, just wanted to put that out there.
10:24 Holly Frey? Yeah, once again, in some ways, humans move so far, they evolve and change and learn and grow and in others.
10:32 Tracy V. Wilson? It's the same thing again.
10:35 Holly Frey? Oh.
10:36 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah, yeah.
10:39 Holly Frey? What an unpleasant noise I just made, sorry. Kind of a growl and a sigh, a cry, I don't know.
10:48 Tracy V. Wilson? Well, I know what episode is coming next after this one and it will not have quite the number of heavy themes that this one did.
10:59 Holly Frey? Huzzah.
11:00 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
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15:11 Tracy V. Wilson? We talked about the Carrington event this week.
15:14 Holly Frey? Oh, we did.
15:16 Tracy V. Wilson? After looking at the globe and where the places we are going, I didn't actually look at the globe. I looked at Google Maps and then I was like, I still don't know what I'm looking at. And so I just started individually Googling the latitude and longitude of the places that we're going. And then I Googled Aurora chances at the places that we're going. And then I felt a little silly. I was like, oh, these places are not actually that much farther north than we are. But then I reminded myself the time that you saw the Aurora, Tracy, you were at home. So.
15:52 Holly Frey? Yeah, I've only, I've only really seen it once. I was in Iceland. It was not our Iceland trip where we went Aurora hunting. I was there a previous time in May, which is not normally the time you would see them. But that was just a freakish bit of luck that they were like, oh, the Aurora is out.
16:12 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh, when we went to Iceland for our honeymoon, it was very end of April, beginning of May. And it was out while we were there, but we were in a place that it was overcast when it happened. And the next night we were staying at a different place. And they had this list at the front desk that was, put your name on the list and if the aurora comes out, we will call you. And I was like, oh, I'm going to put our names on this list, even though I know it's not very likely. And the person at the front desk was like, actually, they were out last night and they were really bright. And when people found out, they were angry that we didn't have the list out. And we didn't have the list out because like, it's not the season anymore.
16:52 Tracy V. Wilson? Like, we had reached the point of the year where it is not fully dark in Iceland anymore.
16:58 Holly Frey? Yeah.
16:59 Tracy V. Wilson? The darkest it is is twilight.
17:00 Holly Frey? Yeah.
17:01 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh, at that point. So we missed it, but there was, uh, one time that it, it was pretty bright in a lot of Massachusetts. And I could see it a little bit with the unaided eye at my house. I could see it through my phone camera exceptionally well. And when we went back to Iceland on the trip that we took for the show, where we actually had an aurora chasing scheduled. Patrick and I arrived a day early to try to get a little acclimated. And we were walking around Reykjavik at night, trying to see if we could see the aurora. And it really did not look like we could. And it also did not look like we could through the phone screen.
17:45 Tracy V. Wilson? And it wasn't until I looked more closely at the pictures, I think even after we were home, that I was like, oh, wait. This is aurora.
17:55 Holly Frey? It's a little something, something.
17:57 Tracy V. Wilson? Little something happening there that I could not see at all and could not see on the phone screen.
18:01 Holly Frey? Yeah.
18:02 Tracy V. Wilson? But could see looking at the picture on the computer. So anyway, very much.
18:08 Tracy V. Wilson? Would be excited if I, if we saw the Aurora on the trip, but if we don't, that's fine.
18:14 Holly Frey? Yeah, it's just a good fortune thing.
18:18 Tracy V. Wilson? There is some speculation that Frederick Edwin Church's painting of the Aurora Borealis, which is the painting that we have used for the little artwork for the show on our Netflix, that that was inspired by this. He was in Newfoundland and Labrador that summer when it happened, and then he painted this in 1865. And I didn't have a good place in the episode itself to mention that.
18:43 Holly Frey? Just blurt it out, like I did, that I went to Galileo's too. Just blurt it out.
18:48 Tracy V. Wilson? I do blurt some things out.
18:49 Holly Frey? That, like an Aurora, was a surprise to me, so it's not. Yeah, if you're in Santa Croce, which is a basilica in Florence, we went because we were on our art pilgrimage, and that is where Michelangelo is also buried.
19:06 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
19:06 Holly Frey? And we were there, but then we were walking along, and I was like, is that Galileo?
19:11 Holly Frey? It's literally right there in the same church.
19:12 Tracy V. Wilson? Right there.
19:13 Holly Frey? Huge, huge, like, you know, big monument and whatnot. As well as Machiavelli, it's a, it's quite a gallery of people assembled there for their final resting place.
19:26 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. That's sort of like the Pantheon? Parthenon? Pantheon? Pantheon? Panth- Parthenon? Which one is it? Let's say the two words over and over. The one where all the French people are, entombed.
19:41 Holly Frey? Pantheon.
19:42 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. You could say it the French way, and it will sound, I, I know that those are two different things, and they are very dissimilar from one another.
19:51 Holly Frey? I flip those words all the time, too.
19:54 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay, I feel less stupid.
19:56 Holly Frey? No, do not, do not, do not. I also love that we had a shout out to Goddard Spaceflight in this episode.
20:04 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
20:05 Holly Frey? Because. I love them and have been lucky enough to go visit them.
20:10 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
20:11 Holly Frey? Way back when we were still How Stuff Works and we're doing video content separate from this show, we went and did a bunch of space stuff there at one point, and it was amazing. And I love that entire team. So I'm glad they got a little shout out here.
20:25 Tracy V. Wilson? Um, is that the trip where you stayed at a place that I would call an affordable motel experience and someone who was with you was unhappy?
20:40 Holly Frey? Um, yes. I don't know if they were unhappy about that.
20:46 Tracy V. Wilson? Okay.
20:47 Holly Frey? They were unhappy about a variety of things.
20:50 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh huh.
20:51 Holly Frey? That is all. But the nice thing, and it wasn't, it was, it's a hotel, but it's definitely not like a fancy pants unicorn hotel.
20:57 Tracy V. Wilson? And it's just the place that there is convenient to the nearby.
21:00 Holly Frey? There's not a lot near there. But what we kind of lucked out with is that that was also the same place that all the people from Goddard do their monthly social hour.
21:12 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh, okay.
21:13 Holly Frey? Happened on the night we were staying there. So we got to hang out with them. Listen, my, one of my proudest moments in my life is that I taught a bunch of engineers and scientists that if you salt your napkin before you put your cocktail down, it won't stick to your drink. And they were astounded by this.
21:33 Tracy V. Wilson? I love it.
21:34 Holly Frey? And I was like, you are so smart about all the things, but I can't teach you drinking tricks. And that's all I had to offer.
21:43 Holly Frey? But what an incredible group. And I know it's been a little stressful for them in recent years. So I hope they are all keeping their morale up as best they can.
21:52 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
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25:51 Tracy V. Wilson? If people are curious, the video game I was playing that suddenly referenced the Carrington event was The Long Dark, a game that I have played a lot over the last more than a decade. And in hindsight, that made total sense because one of the things that was introduced as part of that game was Aurora that caused electrical devices to work.
26:15 Tracy V. Wilson? When they do not work in other circumstances. So like radios that are in houses, you can turn the radio on and music will play when there's no power in any other circumstance. In the, the new, I knew it's a few years old at this point, a DLC, there is a radio that is powered by the Aurora that you can talk to a trader and trade things with. And then the Aurora is beautiful. And then it also has effects that are a little different from reality. They make animals behave differently and be much more likely to kill you. And then, yeah, there had been speculation for a long time that the Carrington event was going to have some kind of relation to the game.
26:59 Holly Frey? Oh, right.
26:59 Tracy V. Wilson? With its story mode, the last chapter of which just dropped, which was a controversial finale. The story mode of the game. And as is the case with so many fandoms.
27:14 Holly Frey? Oh.
27:15 Tracy V. Wilson? That I have witnessed over my life, the response to it was disproportionate.
27:21 Holly Frey? Yeah.
27:22 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Anything.
27:24 Holly Frey? Um, one, I'm slightly envious. I feel like I used to play video games at a rapid rate and I can't do it anymore. I have to schedule time and be like, these two hours, I'm going to play this game.
27:37 Tracy V. Wilson? Uh huh.
27:38 Holly Frey? Cause I just have a, I'm a busy bee. I have my hands in lots of pies. However, the mention of animals behaving badly brings us to the confession that I mentioned I would make. If you are interested in hearing about my bad cat.
27:52 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
27:53 Holly Frey? Okay. So as everyone knows, we adopted three new cats last year. One of them, Jezzy is like, kind of like, I always joke that she's me as a cat, right? She's a kooky, she, her noises are hilarious. She always sounds mad, even when she's happy. But I love her desperately. And she's also a big, beautiful woman. She's, she's tipping close to 17 pounds and she's also a large cat. So one of my best friends who I also love, who is like a sibling to me, watches our cats when we travel. And she has mentioned a couple of times, you know, I'm a, I sometimes am a little afraid of Jezzy and I'm like, what? She's all talk. She's a big cuddler. Like even when she's unhappy, she never lashes out at all.
28:35 Holly Frey? She's like super, you know, she's like, I don't like this, but she won't do anything wrong. And then I got sent a video. Of Jezzy while we were away.
28:47 Holly Frey? And I was mortified because I was suddenly that parent, you know, we've all known that parent whose kid is a little bit of a terror and genuinely mean. And they're like, not my baby, not my precious baby.
28:58 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
28:59 Holly Frey? My precious angel baby, Jezzy, who I love desperately, was not just yelling at our poor cat sitter. She was hissing, swatting and lunging at her with bared teeth. And I was like,
29:13 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh.
29:14 Holly Frey? What the heck is going on here? And we have done some testing since then. She just does not like that person.
29:21 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh.
29:22 Holly Frey? Which like, you know how people are like, trust the instincts of animals? Not this time.
29:25 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
29:26 Holly Frey? Every, this is a person that stray dogs will run to for help. Like she is a cat whisperer. She is one of the kindest souls I've ever met. We had another friend of mine visiting right before I left for Italy. We went to Italy together and she flew here first. And so I was like, great, we can do an actual like control group situation test. Here's another person, this cat is not, even though our friend, the watch the cats is at our house a lot, she knows all of our animals. But I'm like, here's a person this cat isn't familiar with. She's met her before, but she's not here all the time. Will cuddly as the day is long with her. And then our other friend walked in the room and the cat was like,
30:09 Holly Frey? and I'm mortified at my terrible child.
30:13 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
30:13 Holly Frey? That is my confession. I have never, I don't know what's going on with her. I don't know. Jealousy jam? I don't know what's up.
30:22 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
30:25 Tracy V. Wilson? This reminds me a bit of how I used to have a cat named Anastasia. Many years ago.
30:31 Holly Frey? Your scaredy baby.
30:32 Tracy V. Wilson? Well, no, Anastasia was, Anastasia was good. Sastina was scared of things. No, Villanelle was the most scared of things.
30:38 Holly Frey? Yes, I was thinking of Villanelle because I had watched your cats a few times.
30:42 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah. Villanelle hid from everyone all the time, but Anastasia. So for a long time, I had taken them to a cat only vet. And then I moved to Atlanta and asked some friends for vet recommendations. I was given a vet recommendation. I went to this vet one time, I think. Because I got there and I was like, I don't feel like this office, this office does not feel well maintained to me and that makes me question
31:15 Holly Frey? Yeah.
31:16 Tracy V. Wilson? other things.
31:17 Holly Frey? Yeah.
31:18 Tracy V. Wilson? But then, we were, they were gonna get exams and shots and all of that. And the vet tech who was helping, put on like, the big gauntlets to handle my cat. And there had been no real indication from me ever that like, any of the cats needed gauntlets to be examined.
31:37 Holly Frey? Right.
31:38 Tracy V. Wilson? And I think the fact that they were in a place that they could smell dogs.
31:43 Holly Frey? Yeah.
31:43 Tracy V. Wilson? Which was not usual for them. And then was being handled with these gauntlets by someone who clearly thought there was a need for gauntlets. Anastasia lost it. And I was like,
31:53 Holly Frey? Poor baby.
31:54 Tracy V. Wilson? I have never seen her behave like this in my life.
31:58 Holly Frey? Very high stress situation.
32:00 Tracy V. Wilson? And like, at that point, she was a fully adult cat and had plenty of vet experiences under her belt and had never behaved like that. And I was like, this is not,
32:09 Holly Frey? Right.
32:10 Tracy V. Wilson? not the vet for me.
32:12 Holly Frey? We did have a cat that needed the gloves. And you know who I'm talking about.
32:15 Tracy V. Wilson? I absolutely do.
32:17 Holly Frey? Mr. Burns, the scourge of veterinary science.
32:20 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:21 Holly Frey? The chillest cat I've ever met at home, but man, he hated the vet's office.
32:27 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:27 Holly Frey? He was so bad. He was so bad. He drew so much blood.
32:32 Tracy V. Wilson? No goodness. You've told me many stories.
32:36 Holly Frey? I'm sure I've shown you the picture of the, the space helmet they had to put on him to keep him from biting people.
32:42 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:42 Holly Frey? Which if you've ever had a cat that has to wear the space helmet at the vet, it's quite entertaining, but also bad. And he looks so mad.
32:48 Tracy V. Wilson? Yeah.
32:49 Holly Frey? And my beautiful, amazing vet is just looking at him with such a loving expression while he's like, "I will kill you."
32:57 Holly Frey? It's the worst, the worst, the worst.
32:59 Tracy V. Wilson? Oh.
33:00 Holly Frey? The much beloved. Oh, cats and astronomy together at last.
33:05 Tracy V. Wilson? Cats and astronomy, yeah. Uh, I think our previous episode this week, I talked about how I do know lawyers that I could have asked technical questions about law. Uh, I also could have asked an astrophysicist.
33:17 Holly Frey? Yeah.
33:18 Tracy V. Wilson? But I, I did not ask any astrophysicist's questions about the Carrington event. So hopefully, we did not upset any astrophysicists with our layperson's explanation of things.
33:30 Holly Frey? In my experience, they're a pretty chill group.
33:33 Tracy V. Wilson? I agree.
33:34 Holly Frey? I agree.
33:36 Tracy V. Wilson? So whatever's happening on your weekend, if you love cats, I hope there are cats. If you want to see the aurora, I hope it shows up. If you just want to chill out and play some video games, or read a book, or do some other quiet inside thing, I hope that happens. And I hope everyone is great to you. And if you're working, I hope everyone is great to you at work. We will have a brand new episode on Monday. We'll be back tomorrow with a Saturday classic. Stuff You Missed in History Class is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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