Pod Insights Financial Audit Str*pper Exposed On Financial Audit About this episode 💰 Download Dollarwise- 6.0 Is Now *LIVE* - Big Deals, New Features, Free Trial: https://bit.ly/46fiDYP
They fully let loose in the post show... we could not finish the conversation on how the emotions and support in their relationship are completely f*cked up, so they confront each other... watch here: ➡️ https://bit.ly/chpostshow
=============================
👉 Checking & Savings: GGet a $200 bonus and earn 3.75% APY on your Savings with Chime®: https://secure.moneymatchup.com/chime-caleb-website
🔥 GamerSupps: tasty, cheap ($0.40/serving)! Save 10% with code CALEB: https://gamersupps.gg/caleb
🔥 Get Your Own *Hammer Financial Score* → https://bit.ly/3JCuwPS
=============================
*Education*
=============================
👉 Get access to EVERYTHING I offer all in one place: https://bit.ly/4sUm2pb
⚡️Learn how to budget: https://bit.ly/4sspyGh
⚡️Learn how to invest: https://bit.ly/41mr8OP
⚡️Pay off your debt: https://bit.ly/41mr8OP
=============================
*Check Out My Resources*
=============================
👉 Checking & Savings: Get a $200 bonus and earn 3.75% APY on your Savings with Chime®: https://secure.moneymatchup.com/chime-caleb-youtube-disc
👉 Land a high-paying job with no experience or degree: ➡️ https://coursecareers.com/CalebHammer
👉 Get FREE MONEY by investing with Public! secure.moneymatchup.com/public-caleb
👉 Find the best credit cards for you with my quiz! cards.calebhammer.com/yt
👉 Get $20 from Acorns for free: ➡️ https://acorns.com/caleb
👉 First 100,000 Mine (formerly Fizz) sign-ups with code HAMMER10 get $10: https://www.usemine.com/caleb
👉 Helium Mobile: Use promo code CALEB for a FREE plan ➡️ https://hellohelium.com/
👉 Protect your online privacy and security for free with Aura: ➡️ https://aura.com/hammer
=============================
*Chapters*
=============================
00:00 Intro
01:50 Shes The WHAT?
05:50 Its Never Enough (Am I Right Fellas?)
08:20 Oh My F*cking Goodness
12:45 She Doesn't Even Care lol
18:05 Aaaaand Spoiled By Her Mommy.. OFC
19:50 Are They All Like This
24:00 ONE OF THEM HAS CHILD
26:30 Staying For S*x Is Kinda Valid Tbh
29:15 She Had NO IDEA ($70,000)
32:00 Ah Yes, They're The Type Of People That Need To Be In Psychology
35:45 Are They Trying.. Really?
39:45 Immaturity Is At A Maximum
46:50 $10,000 ON SQUISHMALLOWS???
50:10 THEY HAVE NO MONEY
55:15 Child Abandonment??
01:04:30 Bullsh*t Bullsh*t Bullsh*t
01:10:55 All The Debt Belongs To HER?
01:13:00 Amazon Spending
01:20:10 Terminology Matters
01:26:10 MORE Overdrafts??
01:29:43 Budget!!
=============================
Want more content?
=============================
🍿 Caleb Hammer Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@calebhammerclips
🍿 Front Page Documentaries: https://www.youtube.com/@frontpagechannel
=============================
*Connect with me!*
=============================
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@calebhammercomposer
X: https://x.com/sircalebhammer
IG: https://www.instagram.com/calebhammercomposer/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/calebhammercomposer/
=============================
*Want to be a guest on Financial Audit?*
=============================
👉 We film weekdays in our studio in Austin, Texas (in person only)! To apply, visit: https://calebhammer.com/apply
*Some of the links and other products that appear in this video are from companies for which Caleb Hammer will earn an affiliate commission or referral bonus. This is not investment advice.
Sponsorship and business inquiries: [email protected]
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript 18,092 words · 7 speakers
Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.
0:00 Speaker 00 This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.
0:30 Speaker 01 Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
0:59 Caleb Hammer? To watch episodes of Financial Audit a week earlier, check us out on YouTube. What DM? Did you see that just [BLEEP] with you? Pull it up. Let's see. Oh, my goodness. How do you feel about her texting [BLEEP]? Because I'm scrolling up for like hours.
1:14 Speaker 03 I hate [BLEEP].
1:15 Caleb Hammer? Oh, have you tried to put a boundary [BLEEP]?
1:17 Speaker 03 Yes.
1:17 Caleb Hammer? And?
1:18 Speaker 03 And then I have too many emotions and I'm putting her in a box.
1:21 Speaker 04 She also woke me up out of my sleep.
1:23 Speaker 03 OK, but she lied.
1:24 Caleb Hammer? If she is saying do not send images to this man, I do not like [BLEEP]. No shit, she's not trusting you? This is, this is cheating.
1:30 Speaker 04 I'm the princess.
1:32 Caleb Hammer? Princess is sending you mad [BLEEP] men?
1:34 Speaker 04 Oh. I don't know how to word it better than like, I call the shots, you know?
1:40 Caleb Hammer? I think you should probably just leave.
1:41 Speaker 04 You couldn't pay her to.
1:43 Caleb Hammer? That's horrible. That's disgusting. I've never heard something that bad on this show.
1:48 Caleb Hammer? Dollar Wise is finally here, sending waves through the personal finance world. This is officially now the best budgeting app on the market, and I'm giving you a special deal to download. Take a free three day trial to test it out, and then you get the monthly plan and a 33% discount for the first three months, or the annual plan at an insane discount. And with the annual, you get my budget friendly cookbook and my brand new 30 day detailed budget meal plan signed by me and mailed directly to you. Don't miss the opportunity of a lifetime. Download Dollar Wise and start your free trial. Go to dollarwise.com or click the link below.
2:17 Speaker 03 My name is August. I'm 27 years old.
2:19 Speaker 04 I'm Jade. I'm 25 years old. We're from New Orleans, Louisiana.
2:23 Speaker 03 And this is Financial Audit.
2:26 Caleb Hammer? I feel like I'm doing some kind of mediation thing here. I looked over, saw what the thing is. Says, "I'm coming on because my girlfriend treats me like a slave." Well, you're both women, so I don't know which girl treats the other girl like a slave. I have a feeling I'm doing some mediation. Who treats who like a slave? What slavery is going on? Glad we're both white, at least.
2:47 Speaker 03 I am the slave.
2:52 Caleb Hammer? You're the slave?
2:53 Speaker 03 Yes.
2:54 Caleb Hammer? The butch one? The butcher one?
2:56 Speaker 03 Offensive. I'm not a butch.
2:58 Caleb Hammer? Butcher.
2:59 Speaker 03 I'm a mask, but that's fine.
3:01 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, mask, top, bottom.
3:02 Speaker 03 No, I cook, clean, plan the dates, pay for the dates.
3:08 Speaker 04 I'm a princess.
3:10 Speaker 03 She does nothing.
3:10 Caleb Hammer? But you cook clean. You're like the submissive housewife, but also the man.
3:16 Speaker 03 Yes.
3:18 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
3:19 Speaker 03 I literally do everything.
3:20 Caleb Hammer? So what's the issue? I'm gonna mediate. I wanna know the [bleep] is going on?
3:27 Speaker 03 She, I'd be fine doing all this stuff if she just like gave me a little bit more of like, affection or like emotional understanding, some kind of like closeness.
3:40 Caleb Hammer? You seem like the emotional one. You're like the...
3:42 Speaker 04 Exactly. I'm the emotional one. I, um, I am bi, so like, being with girls is a bit harder, for sure.
3:53 Caleb Hammer? Well, yeah, it takes more work down there, if that's what you're talking about.
3:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, like, I can barely handle my own emotions. I'm supposed to handle hers.
4:00 Caleb Hammer? Yes. No, yeah, oof, let me tell you.
4:03 Speaker 03 Anytime I have an emotion, it's like, it's over. She's immediately angry.
4:08 Caleb Hammer? What do you do? You just crash out on her the moment she... This just makes no sense, because that like matches with your aura and you're like swapping. You're like, again, the butch one. You're the...
4:19 Speaker 03 Okay. I'm still a girl. Like, I might, I wear the boy clothes.
4:23 Caleb Hammer? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm just saying stereotype, you know?
4:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:27 Caleb Hammer? Stereotypically. Okay, so what happens?
4:31 Caleb Hammer? You break down and you're just like.
4:34 Speaker 04 I mean, I just, I feel like I get really frustrated really easily. Cause again, like I can't even handle my own emotions, Caleb.
4:40 Speaker 03 It's immediate yelling. I'll be like, I'm calm.
4:43 Caleb Hammer? You start screaming at her?
4:44 Speaker 03 Yes.
4:45 Speaker 04 Screaming.
4:46 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, she just said yes. Hey, the one that's saying you do says you do. Give me an example. What's the last fight we had? I assume it was something related to coming on this show. Someone's probably up here.
4:57 Speaker 03 Morsa has to do with her job.
5:00 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so tell me what happened. What was the conversation? What was the conversation?
5:05 Speaker 03 Uh, she has man hoes in her phone.
5:11 Speaker 04 She acts like she doesn't have her own.
5:16 Speaker 03 Okay, but like, I don't.
5:20 Speaker 03 I go through the text messages every now and again. It's very like.
5:23 Speaker 04 Okay, now and again is crazy. It is constant.
5:28 Speaker 03 She gives me no reassurance to feel stable in the relationship. Like my position is safe.
5:35 Speaker 04 Strongly disagree.
5:36 Caleb Hammer? Give your point then, because I have no, I.
5:39 Speaker 04 I constantly remind her, like, I, I wanna be with her. When we first talked about like, our whole arrangement and stuff. Like, I, I chose to stay for a reason, because I want to be with her. I just, you know, I, I like both. I wanna have both. I, like Hannah Montana, best of both worlds.
5:59 Caleb Hammer? How do you feel about this?
6:01 Speaker 03 Actions speak louder than her words.
6:03 Caleb Hammer? So what are the actions that are happening that are?
6:04 Speaker 03 There are no actions.
6:06 Caleb Hammer? What actions would you wanna see?
6:08 Speaker 03 Just like, you know, if I'm driving, which I always am, like, just a hand on the lap. Or if I'm cooking, she can just come hug me or like just random kisses throughout the day.
6:18 Caleb Hammer? Women care about such weird things. I don't understand. I'm just, I'm connecting eyes with Brandon over here and both of us just don't get it. Like, I, I provide these because they are also requested in my relationship. I don't fully understand it.
6:30 Speaker 04 So, so you do stuff because it's requested, not just because you want to?
6:35 Caleb Hammer? No, but also because I love her. I want to do it because I love her.
6:38 Speaker 04 Because you want to fulfill a need, not because it's something that you need to do.
6:42 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but out of love, not out of a chore. I want to do because she wants it, right?
6:45 Speaker 04 Right!
6:46 Caleb Hammer? So why aren't you doing it because she wants it?
6:48 Speaker 04 I do!
6:49 Caleb Hammer? She just said she's not. You're not.
6:50 Speaker 04 No, she, like, I'll go to give her a random kiss like she wants and then she'll, she'll be like, but you don't want to. And I'm like, I'm doing it!
7:00 Caleb Hammer? Okay, that's weird. Like, yeah, why, why hurt her like that? Why immediately go, well? I mean, that's just like, she's doing something because of you, but because she wants to, because she loves you. Why hurt her in that? And try to make that worse, which means you won't get fulfillment on either end. It'll just bring like, pressure.
7:17 Speaker 03 I don't, I, I feel like it's just been going on for so, so long that like, now I feel like I need to extra put on pressure because it's, it's been like two and a half years. But, I mean, I hit on every love language, you know what I'm saying? Like, words of affirmation, acts of like, service, um, my real showing of love is buying her stuff. Because that's, you know, how I was raised, like-
7:40 Caleb Hammer? Is that what she likes?
7:41 Speaker 04 I love a gift. I love a trinket.
7:43 Speaker 03 She likes acts of service a lot.
7:45 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so you said it stems from her job and people slid it into the DMs from the job?
7:49 Speaker 04 Acts of service.
7:49 Caleb Hammer? What was that?
7:52 Speaker 04 It's the whip.
7:52 Caleb Hammer? Okay, is that to [BLEEP] with her? Because the slave thing? Are you [BLEEP] with her? Is this like an ongoing thing?
7:58 Speaker 03 It is an ongoing thing.
7:59 Caleb Hammer? That's not necessarily good if that's actually her problem. Why are you like feeding into her insecurity in this relationship? That's on, that's like, deeply uncaring.
8:08 Speaker 04 I, mm, I care.
8:11 Caleb Hammer? No, it's, that action is deeply uncaring, where she has specifically brought on to the coming out of the show that she feels like you treat her like a slave and then you make a joke about it?
8:21 Speaker 04 Okay, but I have been, like lately, because she complains about it, I'll be like-
8:27 Caleb Hammer? About what?
8:28 Speaker 04 About doing too much or being a slave. I have tried to start- Well, I've tried to start doing stuff for myself and she's like, no, I want to do it for you. So it, it's just to catch me too. Like, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't.
8:46 Caleb Hammer? What's your job?
8:47 Speaker 04 I'm an entertainer.
8:50 Speaker 03 A stripper.
8:51 Caleb Hammer? So who's sliding into these DMs?
8:53 Speaker 03 Oh, she hands out her number like she's Oprah.
8:57 Caleb Hammer? So what DM, did you see that just [BLEEP] you?
9:03 Caleb Hammer? Hold up. Let's see. Let's wait is it right now?
9:07 Speaker 03 She, I will say, is a flirt.
9:10 Caleb Hammer? Let's see.
9:10 Speaker 03 She does like attention.
9:11 Caleb Hammer? You pick, you pick the chat. The chat that is so egregious, you pick. This is your chance, Ms. August.
9:18 Speaker 03 Let's go with number one.
9:19 Caleb Hammer? Miss Emotional Mask August to choose?
9:24 Caleb Hammer? Oh, you had it already.
9:25 Speaker 03 You could just go through it.
9:27 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Now, this is financial order. I need to bring this to finances in some way so far, and I have not in seven minutes.
9:33 Speaker 03 They're not paying her. They're not giving her money.
9:36 Caleb Hammer? That's what it's been.
9:37 Speaker 03 That'd be a different conversation.
9:37 Caleb Hammer? Are they supposed to?
9:39 Speaker 03 That would be a different conversation.
9:41 Speaker 04 Okay, he did pay me when I met him.
9:43 Caleb Hammer? Do you have sugar daddies?
9:45 Speaker 04 No. I want one.
9:47 Caleb Hammer? Let's see how this, or am I gonna have to be scrolling forever?
9:49 Speaker 04 You're gonna be scrolling for a minute, Cam.
9:50 Caleb Hammer? Fuck, man, what are we doing?
9:51 Speaker 03 It's like three weeks of shit.
9:53 Caleb Hammer? Three weeks? This is all three [BLEEP] weeks?
9:55 Speaker 03 Yes.
9:56 Caleb Hammer? Good [BLEEP].
9:57 Speaker 03 Just one.
9:58 Speaker 04 But he's long distance. Like, it's not like we hang out.
10:01 Caleb Hammer? Why has he given you money?
10:03 Speaker 04 When I met him, I met him at work. I went out of town.
10:07 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my goodness. How do you feel about her texting [BLEEP]? Because I'm scrolling up for like hours right now.
10:12 Speaker 03 I hate [BLEEP].
10:13 Caleb Hammer? Oh, have you tried to put a boundary [BLEEP]?
10:15 Speaker 03 Yes.
10:16 Caleb Hammer? And?
10:16 Speaker 03 And then I have too many emotions and I'm putting her in a box.
10:19 Speaker 04 She also woke me up out of my sleep.
10:21 Speaker 03 Okay, but she lied.
10:22 Caleb Hammer? Tell me, tell me about that. I don't know what's happening. What, what happened?
10:25 Speaker 03 Did you send pictures? You know, is there anything I should be concerned about?
10:29 Speaker 04 There's nothing we can say about.
10:31 Caleb Hammer? He sent a boner there, kind of.
10:32 Speaker 01 Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid, and risked 350,000 Virginians' health care to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes, and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the HouseMajorityPac.com, not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
11:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, pictures for some.
11:02 Caleb Hammer? Covered, covered, so I didn't have to see his penis. Thank goodness.
11:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:06 Caleb Hammer? Why are you texting him so much? Like it's so much. Bro, this isn't even, this is not even two weeks ago. I'm still going hard. Also, huge Charlie Kirk fan.
11:19 Speaker 04 Who?
11:20 Caleb Hammer? You. I don't know. Notifications from Charlie Kirk just popped up.
11:24 Speaker 04 I'm screaming, was it Twitter?
11:25 Caleb Hammer? I'm turning on Do Not Disturb.
11:27 Speaker 04 Come on, I'm not a fan. I want to be so clear.
11:30 Caleb Hammer? There it is. So you specifically requested that she did not share any of these?
11:34 Speaker 04 What are you seeing?
11:36 Caleb Hammer? Booty?
11:36 Speaker 04 Okay.
11:37 Caleb Hammer? Vagina? I've just seen your-
11:40 Speaker 04 Okay, cool.
11:41 Caleb Hammer? On this show?
11:42 Speaker 04 Cool.
11:43 Caleb Hammer? Well, you're a stripper, so I assume you don't care. And there's more booty.
11:47 Speaker 04 Awesome. I forgot about that.
11:48 Caleb Hammer? And how do you feel about this? Really? Because this is what she said you lied about.
11:52 Speaker 04 Um, I didn't lie about those. I lied about-
11:55 Caleb Hammer? You woke her up in the middle of the night. Why?
11:57 Speaker 03 So I have like really bad anxiety and like I was not able to sleep and I was like, let me just like a pinksey, you know? Yeah, I know. I know.
12:08 Speaker 03 I know.
12:10 Speaker 03 So.
12:11 Caleb Hammer? Chad, that's full flap. Being sent to another man.
12:14 Speaker 04 Flap is crazy.
12:15 Caleb Hammer? That's full flap. Being sent to another man.
12:18 Speaker 03 So I work at the club with her as a bartender. So I do meet these men. They do know that we are dating. Wait, can you, can you pull up a picture of him just so Caleb can see how hideous this man is?
12:34 Speaker 04 He's gonna get there eventually.
12:37 Caleb Hammer? Am I?
12:38 Speaker 04 It's a really bad picture. He takes bad pictures.
12:42 Caleb Hammer? Okay, well, what's he even paying for? You got no boobs.
12:44 Speaker 04 Would you like to donate some?
12:46 Caleb Hammer? Nope.
12:46 Speaker 04 All right.
12:47 Caleb Hammer? Uh, I don't think he has a picture of him. Okay, so she's sending this too. She is sending this. Okay, great. You're sending that. You only started talking to him a couple of months ago and you put the boundary of no sending images?
13:00 Speaker 03 It was more like I was just asking. You know what I'm saying? Like, are you-
13:04 Caleb Hammer? Are we kidding ourselves right now?
13:07 Speaker 04 Stop, Caleb!
13:09 Caleb Hammer? This is crazy. This is crazy.
13:13 Speaker 03 That is what I saw and woke her up out of her.
13:15 Caleb Hammer? That's upsetting. That sound is, that's a very moist sound you got going on. So this guy
13:21 Speaker 04 The volume is on.
13:23 Caleb Hammer? Bro, just like, what are we doing?
13:25 Speaker 03 No, no, no, no, no.
13:27 Caleb Hammer? I turned down the volume. Now, let me go see what the most recent chats are. Yes, this would make me freak, freaked out too. If she's putting, now I assume boundaries are a little more loose because we're stripping.
13:38 Speaker 03 Correct, yes.
13:39 Caleb Hammer? But if she is saying, do not send images to this man, I do not like, no shit, she's not trusting you? What are you doing? This is, this is cheating. This is cheating.
13:48 Speaker 03 And that's what we talked about. I mean, I'm okay, you know, if she wants to get her flirting from the guys or whatever, I'm allowed to get some Sally on the side and flirt if I want to.
13:58 Caleb Hammer? What a mess. I mean, if you guys says-
14:00 Speaker 04 I'm the princess.
14:02 Caleb Hammer? Princess is sending you masturbating to men?
14:04 Speaker 04 Oh, I mean, I just like,
14:11 Speaker 04 I don't know how to word it better than like, I call the shots, you know?
14:17 Caleb Hammer? And what about her, the person you're with? Or I think you should probably just leave, right?
14:21 Speaker 04 I give her the, you couldn't pay her to.
14:23 Caleb Hammer? Well, what is it? Is it a desperation? That's horrible. That's disgusting. I've never heard something that bad on this show.
14:29 Speaker 03 Dang.
14:30 Caleb Hammer? That's evil. No, that is evil. Is that not evil?
14:36 Speaker 04 I'm not a hypocrite though. I give her all the same rights that I have.
14:41 Speaker 03 The thing is, is that I don't really want it from other people. I just kind of want it from her.
14:46 Speaker 04 She does it though.
14:47 Speaker 03 And so like, it does kind of suck that the things I ask for, other people get without putting in the work that I do.
14:55 Caleb Hammer? That is true. You're giving this guy full like cream.
14:57 Speaker 03 Thanks. Thanks. No, literally.
15:00 Caleb Hammer? And she just wants, you're, are we wifed?
15:06 Caleb Hammer? Oh, what? Oh, no, what?
15:09 Speaker 03 We, um, we were talking about, you know, getting engaged and
15:15 Caleb Hammer? Okay, just talking.
15:16 Speaker 03 Getting married in the, uh, in the summer.
15:18 Speaker 04 There was a ring.
15:20 Speaker 03 There was a ring that has been returned.
15:23 Caleb Hammer? Was tempted to dance for you for free, she sends it to him. Are we like, cause like, guys,
15:28 Speaker 04 I didn't do it though.
15:29 Caleb Hammer? There is a shit ton of paperwork here. Prostitutes yourself, but what are we doing? I'd never take financial advantage of you, baby.
15:35 Speaker 04 Okay, she knows about the pet names, but I just, I don't say like my baby, cause she's my baby.
15:42 Caleb Hammer? Have you ever fucked him?
15:43 Speaker 04 No.
15:44 Caleb Hammer? Answer a question truthfully right now.
15:46 Speaker 04 I swear.
15:47 Caleb Hammer? A different question.
15:48 Speaker 04 Oh.
15:48 Caleb Hammer? Have you ever given favors?
15:50 Speaker 03 Like a handjob or something?
15:52 Caleb Hammer? Even a handjob?
15:53 Speaker 04 No, no.
15:54 Caleb Hammer? Bullshit.
15:55 Speaker 04 No.
15:55 Caleb Hammer? With that kind of crap, there's, I do not believe that for a second.
15:58 Speaker 04 Where's these?
16:01 Speaker 04 Oh, Branny?
16:01 Speaker 03 I have asked these questions multiple times and
16:05 Caleb Hammer? Even outside of work?
16:07 Speaker 04 No, no.
16:08 Caleb Hammer? You never met up with one of them outside?
16:10 Speaker 04 We might have hung out, but it was in public. It was at IHOP.
16:14 Speaker 03 I did confirm that with the people she was with.
16:17 Speaker 04 We were at IHOP.
16:18 Speaker 03 Did confirm.
16:20 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
16:22 Speaker 03 Even her friends were pissed off with it.
16:23 Caleb Hammer? You guys were engaged and then you got bored. And then you kicked it off, is what I'm being told.
16:28 Speaker 04 I wouldn't say bored.
16:29 Caleb Hammer? And you called off the engagement.
16:31 Speaker 04 It was more like a bisexual crisis.
16:34 Caleb Hammer? Well, okay. Hey, can we just do this? Cause I like the emo one right now. The one that looks like she smells of cigarettes, but thankfully doesn't. I like her.
16:43 Speaker 03 Uh, not you.
16:44 Caleb Hammer? I like her. She seems like a normal, well, she seems like a person.
16:50 Caleb Hammer? She seems like we'd get along. I'm on her side.
16:53 Speaker 04 Okay.
16:54 Caleb Hammer? And
16:56 Caleb Hammer? you're stringing her along.
16:57 Speaker 04 No.
16:58 Caleb Hammer? And you absolutely are, which I do not like. I'm sorry, this is a bit Springer right now. I know, I will get into this, I promise, but hey, man. This is where the conversation's naturally gone. If she is doing everything for you, you're not giving any of the love language. I think you pushed back against that a little bit in a way I don't like, for what it's worth, August. But, and then you called off the engagement because you're having a bisexual crisis, because you prob-
17:20 Speaker 04 It was more of a mutual conversation though.
17:22 Caleb Hammer? Can we just be completely honest?
17:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:24 Caleb Hammer? What are you, 25?
17:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:26 Caleb Hammer? I've seen where the story goes.
17:30 Caleb Hammer? You're, you're lesed up.
17:32 Speaker 03 Lesed up.
17:33 Caleb Hammer? You're full, yeah, you're full clit.
17:36 Speaker 04 Strictly undickly.
17:37 Caleb Hammer? Uh, yeah. You're gonna wanna end up with a guy.
17:40 Speaker 04 No.
17:41 Speaker 03 So, we have talked about this before.
17:44 Caleb Hammer? Really feel like it.
17:44 Speaker 04 I just like them as side pieces.
17:46 Caleb Hammer? I don't know, man. I don't know. I feel like you're gonna want that princess treatment, the, the classic.
17:53 Speaker 04 She is my man, my man, my baby, my baby.
17:56 Caleb Hammer? But she doesn't like that.
17:58 Speaker 03 So, we, um, we've talked about it before in detail. Uh, I've asked her when she's dated men in the past, like, do you miss women, being with women? And she's like, yeah, absolutely.
18:08 Caleb Hammer? She doesn't even kiss me right now, I'm being told. So it's like.
18:11 Speaker 04 I can't.
18:12 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah, she did just give her.
18:13 Caleb Hammer? She can't.
18:14 Speaker 04 Kisses, I just.
18:15 Caleb Hammer? She can't pucker?
18:16 Speaker 04 I just can't make out right now.
18:18 Speaker 03 To be fair, I want like, high school makeouts. It's fine that I don't get it all the time.
18:23 Speaker 04 Spit in her mouth.
18:26 Speaker 03 Um.
18:26 Caleb Hammer? I don't get it. I've never been a makeout person. I just, I don't get it. Like, my, my, I don't want someone's mouth.
18:31 Speaker 03 I'm definitely someone that like, you know, life is short if you're bisexual and you want both.
18:37 Caleb Hammer? Not necessarily. You can go, you can, you can, you can do a lot of things that aren't making out that are not vanilla.
18:41 Speaker 03 Correct.
18:42 Caleb Hammer? Okay, okay.
18:45 Caleb Hammer? What do you make? A slave? What does the slave make?
18:48 Speaker 03 Uh, anywhere between thirty-five hundred to four thousand a month.
18:52 Caleb Hammer? That's pretty good. Is that net? Is that what hits?
18:55 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah, that's what I.
18:56 Caleb Hammer? I'll put it at thirty-five to be safe. Jade, no favors on the side. What do you make a month?
19:01 Speaker 04 Uh, roughly seven thousand.
19:06 Caleb Hammer? Really? Does that line up?
19:07 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
19:07 Caleb Hammer? You believe that?
19:08 Speaker 03 Yes. I, yeah, we.
19:10 Caleb Hammer? Just making sure. What? It's mostly just tips thrown on stage, or is it the lappies?
19:14 Speaker 04 I also have like a remote job.
19:18 Caleb Hammer? Doing what?
19:19 Speaker 04 I'm an abstractor.
19:21 Caleb Hammer? Okay, what, what, what the fuck is she talking about?
19:23 Speaker 03 Kind of lawyer shit, I don't know.
19:25 Caleb Hammer? What?
19:26 Speaker 04 The, the firm I work for, they like represent banks during like foreclosures.
19:32 Caleb Hammer? And what do you do?
19:34 Speaker 04 I'm like their little bitch. I collect like the files for them.
19:38 Caleb Hammer? Well, or is someone attracted to you?
19:41 Speaker 04 No, I don't even, I don't even go there. They just found out that I have pink hair.
19:46 Caleb Hammer? You're trusted with legal files?
19:48 Speaker 04 Yeah.
19:48 Caleb Hammer? And how much you pay? What, what of your seven comes from that?
19:51 Speaker 04 Um, it's like thirteen something every two weeks.
19:56 Caleb Hammer? Okay, okay, okay, okay. So.
19:58 Speaker 04 Roughly, they
19:59 Caleb Hammer? So you're still making a decent amount stripping.
20:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:02 Caleb Hammer? Mostly lap dances and whatnot, I assume.
20:04 Speaker 04 Stace has been better lately, though.
20:06 Caleb Hammer? I'm being told you don't, you honestly don't even know what the job is. You just sometimes close the laptop and walk away.
20:13 Speaker 03 And does.
20:13 Speaker 04 Um, I'm not saying I'm good at it. I do have like family members that also work there, so they help me a lot. Like when I'm confused.
20:24 Speaker 03 Mommy.
20:24 Caleb Hammer? Oh, and I assume that is quite often.
20:27 Speaker 04 Every day.
20:30 Speaker 04 Little bit.
20:32 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so I'm just confused. Is there even actually a future here? I'm not denying that there might be love for each other, but you want dick. She doesn't necessarily like that. You're always in guys DMs. She says no, yet you literally lie about that. I do not believe you don't get favors outside of the scene. I'm being told your sex drives don't even match. You're treating her like a slave and she hates it. You don't give her any of the love languages she likes. So.
20:54 Speaker 04 I feel like I've gotten a lot better at the love languages. Like I, I've gotten a lot more affectionate. I've started telling her how cute her outfits are because she loves that.
21:03 Speaker 03 Pause.
21:04 Caleb Hammer? They do like that.
21:06 Speaker 03 I have to be like, do I look okay?
21:09 Speaker 04 Oh bullshit. The other day I did it unprovoked.
21:12 Speaker 03 One time.
21:13 Speaker 04 Oh my gosh.
21:14 Speaker 03 And this, a, a, a lot more I feel like is a bit of an, a reach. Okay. I, I, I might get like a.
21:25 Speaker 04 We're in the car. What do you want me to do? Suck your lips?
21:29 Speaker 03 Anything. Genuinely, anything. I'll take anything.
21:32 Speaker 04 I play with her hair when we're in the car. What more can I do? And she has a new tattoo on her arm, so I try to avoid her arms.
21:39 Speaker 03 That, that was Monday. That's Monday.
21:43 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, that's bullshit excuse. Okay, so it sounds like you're really not doing more.
21:52 Speaker 03 Pitiful efforts.
21:52 Caleb Hammer? Why are you still in this relationship with someone who wants penis and literally will not?
21:58 Speaker 04 But I want cooch too!
22:00 Caleb Hammer? Great, but she doesn't want you doing all this stuff and sending these videos to men. And she, she has said no, and yet you are still doing it.
22:07 Speaker 04 But to be clear, she left the house specifically knowing.
22:13 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
22:13 Speaker 04 About like some pictures.
22:15 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
22:16 Speaker 04 Don't act like you don't know.
22:17 Caleb Hammer? Wait, no, no, what are you saying? I don't know what you're talking about.
22:19 Speaker 03 I know that you sent pics, but what are you talking about leaving the house?
22:22 Speaker 04 The Saturday.
22:24 Speaker 03 I don't know what the fuck she's talking about. Anyway, um, no, I love her more than anything.
22:31 Caleb Hammer? But is it good for you?
22:33 Speaker 03 The-
22:33 Caleb Hammer? Is it good for your life? You're 27, you're aging out.
22:36 Speaker 03 I know. So that is also a fear factor. But, um, no, I, I, I have a degree in psychology. I've always been very open-minded. I don't think that bisexual people should be put in a box. You know, I am, you know, like life is short.
22:54 Caleb Hammer? Do you want to be monogamous?
22:56 Speaker 03 I don't even know that much myself right now. Like I know that I love her and I want to be with her.
23:02 Caleb Hammer? She doesn't need to be put in a box, but it's okay to be monogamous. It's also okay to not be.
23:06 Speaker 04 To being excited that she can act on-
23:11 Caleb Hammer? And do you?
23:12 Speaker 04 Certain temptations that she has had.
23:14 Caleb Hammer? Do you?
23:14 Speaker 03 I have had temptations.
23:15 Caleb Hammer? Do you? Well, everyone does. And when polled independently, the vast majority of people, mostly men, but even the vast majority of people prefer open. I mean, that's not, that's not a crazy concept. You suck with money, so you download a budgeting app. You start with the classic one, YNAB, but everyone just deletes it because it's way too complicated to use. So you go to EveryDollar. That's Dave Ramsey, the personal finance guy, right? Well, they're gonna force you to use it his way. That's not very personal finances. Rocket Money, they got a lot of commercials, but they're owned by Rocket Mortgage. Guess what they want to sell you in the end? Then there's the new guy on the block, Monarch. Hundreds of millions of dollars of private equity raising so far. But private equity doesn't have the best track record when it comes to private data.
23:59 Caleb Hammer? That's why I like Dollar Wise. They'll play these people just like you for people just like you. No private equity, no gimmicks, just the best budgeting app there is. Download it now, start the free trial. Dollarwise.com, link in the description below.
24:15 Caleb Hammer? Stupid, I'll be honest, but what's not is actually getting a checking account that gives you free money. Free money. We like free money. You can get up to $200 in bonus cash right now. When you sign up for the checking account that I use, Chime. Also, it makes your savings grow at a 3.5 APY interest rate. Guys, you can watch Financial Audit and get free money at the same time. Who would have thought? That's incredible. Check it out. Link in the description below. Sign up for Chime. Get that $350 right now in your checking account.
24:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:47 Caleb Hammer? But you have to be both on the same page with clear guidelines and rules. And you're not following those rules. You're not following those boundaries. So which equates to then cheating. We do not like cheating here. Why? I do not, I understand your love, but it might be bad for you. This person that is abusing you, financially abusing you, milking you, not giving you anything you want, not even listening to your boundaries or instruction, does not respect and then tells you you're wrong to your face. I do not understand why you are putting up with it. I really do not. Other than love and love's not enough, good reason in the end.
25:17 Speaker 03 That's fair. Um, my biggest issue with her is the lying. I'd be fine with the pictures being sent. I'd be fine with whatever.
25:24 Caleb Hammer? You raised her son for her? I didn't know you had a kid.
25:28 Speaker 00 This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.
25:57 Speaker 04 I do.
25:57 Caleb Hammer? And you just raised her son for her? What are you? You're a failure.
26:02 Speaker 04 Um, she does not raise him for me.
26:04 Caleb Hammer? You have a son? How old?
26:05 Speaker 04 I do. He's gonna be seven in August. He's six.
26:09 Caleb Hammer? Eighteen?
26:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:11 Caleb Hammer? Why? What happened?
26:13 Speaker 04 I started college and got knocked up.
26:16 Caleb Hammer? Why? So complicated these days.
26:20 Speaker 03 She was living like Sex and the City back then.
26:22 Speaker 04 He did tell me that he was pretty sure he was sterile because he has type 1 diabetes. I was 18. Why would I know better?
26:36 Caleb Hammer? Is he in the picture?
26:37 Speaker 04 No.
26:38 Caleb Hammer? Diabetes man?
26:38 Speaker 04 No.
26:39 Caleb Hammer? Are you getting money?
26:40 Speaker 04 No.
26:41 Caleb Hammer? Why have you not tried to get it legally?
26:43 Speaker 04 Because then he's gonna-
26:44 Caleb Hammer? Does he even know?
26:45 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
26:46 Speaker 03 He lives in the same city.
26:49 Speaker 04 I heard he moved away again.
26:51 Speaker 03 Okay, period. Better.
26:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:52 Caleb Hammer? Well, why not go to the court? Get money?
26:54 Speaker 04 Well, cuz then he would-
26:56 Caleb Hammer? He busted the lug.
26:57 Speaker 04 He would try to be in my son's life and him and his wife are like the [bleep] out and they don't-
27:03 Caleb Hammer? Why were you with [bleep] kid?
27:04 Speaker 03 That was her type. She likes ugly men and men that have issues. Just serious issues.
27:11 Speaker 04 At the time, I like felt like I could like like I could fix him.
27:16 Caleb Hammer? Girl, your life is completely-
27:18 Speaker 04 I was eighteen!
27:19 Caleb Hammer? He's not even on the birth certificate, okay?
27:21 Speaker 04 No.
27:21 Caleb Hammer? Bro, I really don't get it. This is such a [bleep] mess and you're just breaking every boundary you know to man. You wanna start a [bleep]. She's not in favor of that, but you want her to join something she's not even in favor of? It's like, everything here is broken. I do not understand what you're doing to yourself. I don't, you're hurting yourself. You're like self-inflicted hurting yourself. I really don't get it. And I bet there's a connection to the kid. I bet that's pulling some weight as well.
27:47 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
27:47 Caleb Hammer? Or raising her kid for her cuz she's a fucking failure? It's kinda gross.
27:51 Speaker 04 Does not raise him for me. I do homework with him every day. Well-
27:55 Speaker 03 No.
27:56 Caleb Hammer? You do homework with him?
27:57 Speaker 03 She does not.
27:58 Speaker 04 He begs to do it with my mom a lot, so whenever she has time- We live in a house where it's four generations of us.
28:06 Speaker 03 We did get approved for the apartment yesterday, though. So we will be moving out. Yes.
28:11 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:12 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my goodness. I couldn't imagine the absolute chaos.
28:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
28:16 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:16 Caleb Hammer? I have a lot of paperwork in front of me. Whose fault? What's going on?
28:19 Speaker 04 I definitely have the majority of the debt.
28:21 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so there we go. So it's [bleep] life abuse, it's financial abuse, it's everything. You're carrying down the relationship. Why are you there? Why? It doesn't make sense anymore. It doesn't make sense anymore.
28:33 Speaker 03 The sex is good.
28:34 Caleb Hammer? Is it?
28:35 Speaker 03 I love her.
28:35 Caleb Hammer? I told, I was told the drive is completely different.
28:39 Speaker 04 She has a libido of Andrew from Big Mouth.
28:41 Speaker 03 I do.
28:42 Speaker 04 Or like Jay.
28:43 Speaker 03 Uh, I could-
28:45 Speaker 04 You don't watch TV.
28:46 Speaker 03 No, I could go-
28:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:47 Speaker 03 All day, every day.
28:49 Caleb Hammer? And you?
28:49 Speaker 04 Like a rabbit.
28:51 Caleb Hammer? Not you?
28:52 Speaker 04 In the beginning, like, I was definitely a lot closer to matching it. But I definitely feel like, like, the repressing my sexuality was affecting things. And especially because when we first got together.
29:08 Caleb Hammer? Being into men, like, which is pretty.
29:10 Speaker 04 Well, when we first got together, like, one of the first conversations we ever had, she was like, "Yeah, I don't care if you have, like, a boyfriend on the side." And then, like, a week later, she was like, "Yeah, never mind."
29:21 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, because I could understand how that would be leading to jealousy, especially if emotions are being developed on the other side.
29:27 Speaker 03 Keep in mind, she was like, "No, I'm very monogamous," like, when I said that.
29:31 Caleb Hammer? Hey, when was the last time you took a dick?
29:36 Caleb Hammer? Answer truthfully.
29:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean, people.
29:40 Speaker 03 We, we had a, um, a menagee trois. Yeah.
29:45 Caleb Hammer? So you can't be against that, then, if you participated?
29:48 Speaker 03 I participated because I love her and I wanted.
29:53 Caleb Hammer? How long ago?
29:57 Speaker 03 Last summer?
29:59 Caleb Hammer? So you haven't independently been with someone in a while? You're just sending images and photos?
30:03 Speaker 03 Yes.
30:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, I didn't hook up with nobody.
30:05 Caleb Hammer? And if you would just go hook up with a guy, then what?
30:08 Speaker 04 Well, we would talk about it.
30:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:11 Speaker 04 Like, I would tell her.
30:12 Speaker 03 It, it definitely wouldn't be anybody that she's texting like this. It would have to be, like, strictly a hookup and then, like.
30:18 Speaker 04 Hit it and quit it.
30:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, not this emotional shit.
30:22 Caleb Hammer? I, I definitely agree with that. Okay.
30:27 Caleb Hammer? So what's our future looking like? You're a bartender, you're a stripper, and then family's helping you out and something?
30:31 Speaker 03 You're gonna love this.
30:33 Speaker 04 Family helps her more.
30:34 Speaker 03 Family does help me, um, but I'm in school. Like I said, I had my degree in psychology. I'm now pursuing, uh, civil engineering to give.
30:45 Caleb Hammer? Oh.
30:45 Speaker 03 Her even more of a princess life. I'm.
30:48 Caleb Hammer? And that's what you want to do? You want to enable her even more, the one who is driving this down with all this debt? What's the household debt? What do we think the household debt is?
30:55 Speaker 04 I know mine. I'm like.
30:56 Caleb Hammer? Household, we just, guys, we've been engaged.
30:59 Speaker 03 I have no debt, so it would be all hers, and I would guess.
31:02 Speaker 04 Like seventy-two thousand?
31:04 Speaker 03 I guess like forty-five, seventy.
31:08 Speaker 04 With, like, school.
31:10 Caleb Hammer? Seventy-two thousand, eight hundred forty-five dollars.
31:13 Speaker 03 Can you repeat that?
31:13 Caleb Hammer? Seventy-two thousand, eight hundred forty-five dollars.
31:19 Caleb Hammer? And this princess treatment is only leading us deeper in the hole. The household brought in eight thousand last month, which doesn't align with the numbers he gave me. It's lower than that, but even still out was ten thousand eight hundred.
31:30 Speaker 04 Oh.
31:32 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, that goes up.
31:36 Caleb Hammer? I'm being told, yes, you want to do civil engineering to make more money, but Jade wants you to do civil engineering so she can stop working.
31:43 Speaker 04 No, I want to pursue, you're not gonna like it. Um, I'm teaching myself tattooing right now. So I want to be a tattoo artist, but I also am about to finish my degree. And I want to go to grad school so I can be a researcher.
32:00 Caleb Hammer? In?
32:01 Speaker 04 Uh, psychology.
32:03 Caleb Hammer? Oh, for fuck's sake, guys, what are we doing? You're gonna research psychology?
32:07 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:09 Speaker 04 And tattoo.
32:10 Caleb Hammer? I'm gonna kill myself. What the fuck are we talking about?
32:13 Speaker 03 I'll be able to help you. I always say that she's a jack of all trades and a master of none. She just floats around to whatever idea she's on. She's passionate about it and then it fizzles out and she's on to the next thing.
32:24 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I would say so, as in the next person as well. You guys were supposed to get married this summer.
32:28 Speaker 03 I will say that that was kind of rushed on both ends more so I think out of fear of losing each other and like just wanting to lock it in.
32:36 Caleb Hammer? What? Getting married would make us lose each other.
32:40 Speaker 03 No, so we don't, so we don't, like lock that shit in, you know what I mean?
32:44 Caleb Hammer? No, I, I don't. Uh, um, how often do we fight, guys? Especially on all this shit. I, I assume, I mean, you have to be afraid of the seventy-two thousand dollars of debt that would come into this marriage. Her spending, everything you're supporting.
33:02 Speaker 04 I'm not the only spender.
33:04 Caleb Hammer? She's not going into debt for it though?
33:06 Speaker 03 No. I, I mean, I do love Klarna, but I mean, I pay that shit off.
33:09 Speaker 04 Just open her credit card.
33:10 Caleb Hammer? Okay, is she going into debt?
33:12 Speaker 04 Well, there's like two thousand on there.
33:15 Caleb Hammer? I have credit cards.
33:17 Speaker 04 Okay.
33:17 Caleb Hammer? Well, is that a balance? Is that balance being paid off?
33:19 Speaker 03 Yes, yes.
33:20 Caleb Hammer? Like a full balance?
33:21 Speaker 03 I've been putting like one fifty to two hundred every time I can.
33:24 Caleb Hammer? She said it's two thousand.
33:24 Speaker 03 It is, uh.
33:26 Caleb Hammer? So you're not paying it off?
33:27 Speaker 03 I, I'm making payments to it.
33:30 Caleb Hammer? That's not, no, no, no, no, no. You put two thousand on, you pay two thousand. Oh, you're going down the same hole as her.
33:37 Speaker 03 Okay.
33:37 Caleb Hammer? What are we doing?
33:39 Speaker 03 We did wanna go on a cruise this summer, so I just like, put it on the clinic.
33:43 Speaker 04 Cause I'm graduating.
33:45 Speaker 03 But I paid off a good bit.
33:47 Speaker 04 From college.
33:48 Caleb Hammer? With what bachelor?
33:49 Speaker 04 Psychology.
33:52 Caleb Hammer? What is with you guys in psychology?
33:54 Speaker 04 I already said it.
33:55 Caleb Hammer? It's like the, no, you said you wanted to go into research in psychology. I didn't know you were graduating like right, I didn't know you're in school. Psychology right now. What are, what are you guys getting such a worthless degree?
34:05 Speaker 04 Well, I wanna go grad school, so it won't be worthless after.
34:09 Speaker 03 Okay, and I wasn't aware of how much schooling and money it takes. So as soon as I didn't get into the master's program, I gave that up.
34:16 Caleb Hammer? What school are you at?
34:17 Speaker 04 UNO. It's about to become LSU. We got bought out.
34:22 Caleb Hammer? Okay, your school just got bought out.
34:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, no, it's so bad. It's so bad.
34:26 Speaker 04 It's not that bad.
34:27 Speaker 03 No, it is.
34:27 Caleb Hammer? Schools don't just get bought out.
34:29 Speaker 03 My, my department, it is very bad.
34:31 Caleb Hammer? I'm just trying to picture you in the classroom.
34:34 Speaker 03 Right.
34:34 Speaker 04 They love me.
34:37 Caleb Hammer? They might enjoy your personality, maybe. I don't even know, or the, you know, TA's enjoying you.
34:44 Speaker 03 No, right.
34:46 Speaker 04 Doesn't hate me for sure. And loves me.
34:51 Caleb Hammer? Son loves you.
34:52 Speaker 04 It's a woman.
34:54 Caleb Hammer? Still.
34:55 Speaker 03 I, I do love her too.
34:56 Caleb Hammer? A woman professor, definitely a lesbian.
35:00 Speaker 04 I don't think she is, but I don't really know. We don't have to see my bald pussy.
35:05 Caleb Hammer? Okay, that's the cat. Okay, funny. That was good. Wonderful.
35:10 Speaker 04 You like that?
35:11 Caleb Hammer? Okay. What was the last conversation we've had financially?
35:14 Speaker 03 Hmm, I wanted to start helping out, uh, paying for our son's school.
35:21 Caleb Hammer? Well, you should say our.
35:22 Speaker 03 Ten thousand dollars a year.
35:25 Caleb Hammer? What?
35:25 Speaker 04 But my mom pays half of it.
35:27 Caleb Hammer? Why?
35:28 Speaker 04 The education system in Louisiana.
35:30 Caleb Hammer? I'm sure there's good public school districts and bad public school districts.
35:34 Speaker 03 Correct, yes.
35:34 Caleb Hammer? Why are you guys?
35:35 Speaker 04 Still at the bottom of the entire country. It's not good. It's better.
35:39 Speaker 03 I went to public school. She went to private. We ended up in the same class for the same degree.
35:45 Caleb Hammer? Are there charter school options?
35:46 Speaker 03 Yes, there are other options and she doesn't want to make him upset by moving him to a new school.
35:51 Speaker 04 Okay, I also-
35:52 Caleb Hammer? He doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
35:54 Speaker 04 But I want to give him as many resources as I can. Like there, there's better, you know, teachers, student ratios. They offer all kinds of different like programs and stuff. They have like a pool on campus and shit.
36:09 Speaker 03 No, they just, they do little theater things every week that we have to go to. And I'm like, are they even learning anything in class?
36:15 Speaker 04 Yes.
36:16 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so the conversation is you wanted to provide to that? Even though you're kind of against it?
36:20 Speaker 03 I've been against it for so long, but-
36:22 Caleb Hammer? But you want to provide to it? So make this make sense to me.
36:24 Speaker 03 Start helping.
36:25 Caleb Hammer? Why? I feel like you do everything.
36:27 Speaker 03 She does have a lot of bills. I have no bills.
36:29 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, cuz she just, cuz she takes on everything.
36:32 Speaker 04 Um, because her parents help her with her school. They help with her car insurance. I'm on my own for all that.
36:39 Caleb Hammer? Guys, you're 25 and 27. Why are we still doing bachelor degree bullshit? Okay.
36:42 Speaker 04 Well, I got knocked out my first semester. It took a while.
36:45 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, don't do that with crackheads, freak.
36:47 Speaker 04 And I didn't do it again.
36:49 Caleb Hammer? Are you on birth control?
36:51 Speaker 04 For what?
36:51 Caleb Hammer? You take dick sometimes.
36:53 Speaker 03 Once and it was wrapped.
36:55 Caleb Hammer? Well, that's good.
36:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
36:57 Caleb Hammer? Glad to hear that.
36:58 Speaker 04 Can y'all cut that?
37:00 Caleb Hammer? No.
37:01 Speaker 03 You're slurping?
37:02 Speaker 04 No, I spilled a little.
37:05 Speaker 04 Thanks.
37:06 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Um. And how did that conversation go, though?
37:11 Speaker 03 Anytime that we talk about finances, like it's, that's the only calm fights that we have. Uh, she-
37:17 Caleb Hammer? Really?
37:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, she did the math on it cuz obviously I make significantly less than she does. Um, it rounded up to about me donating about like contributing 400.
37:26 Caleb Hammer? Why is there no issues there in financial conversations?
37:29 Speaker 03 Cuz we both like spending money.
37:31 Caleb Hammer? So we, so we both agree on doing poorly.
37:34 Speaker 03 Correct.
37:35 Caleb Hammer? Is anyone gonna step up and be the adult for the future of your relationship?
37:39 Speaker 03 I am trying.
37:40 Caleb Hammer? For the future of the seven year olds. You're trying. Is she trying?
37:43 Speaker 04 I'm not applied.
37:44 Caleb Hammer? Who, who's trying? Both? Do you guys agree on trying?
37:48 Speaker 04 Okay.
37:48 Speaker 03 We agree on trying.
37:49 Speaker 04 I'm the one that says, no, let's not go to Target. She will be like, let's go to, there's a store called Tiny Buffalo. It has like- The boo-boos and shit, yeah. She'll be like, "Let's go to Italian Buffalo today. Let's go to Target. Let's go to the Pokemon store." And I'm like, "Let's not?" Because I know that I have no self-control. I also, like, I don't look at price tags. Like, if I see it and I want it, I'm getting it.
38:17 Speaker 03 She'll be like, "Should we get this one or this one?" I'm like, "Well, this one's $2. This one's $24." Let's get the cheaper one.
38:25 Speaker 04 But again, that's why I try to avoid, like, going in there, period.
38:31 Caleb Hammer? So how did the conversation go? If she wants to go, you don't want to go? What happens?
38:34 Speaker 03 We go.
38:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:36 Caleb Hammer? So why? Why does she win? Why does the irresponsibility win?
38:39 Speaker 04 She has to win sometimes, doesn't she?
38:41 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but if it's winning only in the financial negatives for us, why is it always a win on this side?
38:45 Speaker 04 I pay for stuff too, though.
38:47 Caleb Hammer? No, no, no. But if you're saying, "No, we can't afford it," why does she always win?
38:52 Speaker 03 It might not be always. She might tell me no, like, one out of 10 times.
38:56 Speaker 04 I've seen my grandma a couple times. We did not go to Italian Buffalo the last time she asked.
39:00 Speaker 03 No, we didn't.
39:00 Caleb Hammer? Well, OK, so one time. I'm glad the financial conversations are a little better, but it's because you guys are aligned on being shit. Who's trying to change more quickly? I think it's you. Are you gonna hold back the relationship? Are you gonna hold back the finances at this house? Because your parents are the one funding everything? So you've never had to actually realize, sacrifice, and budgeting and understanding money?
39:19 Speaker 03 Correct, yes, there is that. But I also like to-
39:23 Caleb Hammer? So that's not fair to her.
39:24 Speaker 03 Buy shit when I'm sad, so...
39:26 Caleb Hammer? Well, you're sad all the time because she's horrible.
39:28 Speaker 03 Correct, yes. So, I mean...
39:31 Speaker 04 I don't think I'm horrible. But it's also discouraging when I do, like, put in efforts and she's like, "Oh, I just..." And then I'll say, like, "Well, I've been doing this and this." And she's like, "Oh, that's true." It's like a hindsight acknowledgement.
39:44 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, no, no, no. I mean, I get that too. I get that too. I, you know...
39:48 Speaker 04 It's hard to keep momentum like that, you know?
39:51 Caleb Hammer? It is. No, no, no. The girlfriend I love to the end of the world is, you know, similar to you in that regard. And I'm more similar to you. I'm not love- But like I am similar where it's it's less of my natural instinct to be like that than the other person wants it. So it can be a little discouraging when you, you know, hear only the negatives and you want to do better. So I do get that you got you just have to be more more supportive of what she's at least trying to do because she's trying to do it for you. She's not doing it for her, she's doing it for you.
40:17 Speaker 03 Late in the game, like it's shit that I've been begging for.
40:22 Caleb Hammer? Like what? Like what's the, what's the, what's the alternative?
40:24 Speaker 03 It just feels like a little, like a sprinkle of what I've been asking for.
40:29 Caleb Hammer? You can accept that there's positive movement, you can leave, or you can hope that nothing ever happens. Which one are you gonna do?
40:35 Speaker 03 I'll go with the first one.
40:36 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I think would be the only fair option, right? And you're just gonna keep stepping up and doing better. You really do.
40:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:44 Caleb Hammer? You have to keep the momentum up and you have to help her by not disencouraging her. And putting that pressure on. When it's all pressure, it makes it hard.
40:52 Speaker 03 And then I paid for it.
40:54 Speaker 04 Okay, I bought us a two hundred.
40:56 Speaker 03 She bought her friend a $200 dinner.
40:58 Speaker 04 Did you not eat?
40:59 Speaker 03 Did I not contribute towards the bill?
41:01 Speaker 04 Voluntarily, I told you not to give me money, but I'll tell her not to do these things and she's like, I want to. And then I, but I still get like put down for it, even though she said it's what she wanted to do.
41:16 Caleb Hammer? So how often are you guys fighting? Now finances isn't one of the biggest fight things. How often are we fighting in this relationship?
41:22 Speaker 03 It's been more recently that we've been fighting.
41:27 Caleb Hammer? Really? What's it ramping up because and for why?
41:29 Speaker 03 Just the lack of communication. Like I cannot bring up anything like.
41:33 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
41:34 Speaker 03 I'll bring up a boundary or I'll bring up something that bothers me.
41:37 Caleb Hammer? Give me an example.
41:38 Speaker 03 Texting all day, like she'll ignore me or or our son. No, there was, yes, don't. Um, to text whoever back and I'm like, you know, I'll bring it up and it's just instant like raised voice and like just pissed off, shuts it down immediately and like it used to not be like that. Like we used to have really good conversation and communication skills and now it's just she shuts down immediately.
42:07 Speaker 04 My thing is just, it's just all the time. So it's just, it's hard. It gets overwhelming.
42:14 Speaker 03 And it's all the time because the reassurance that I get, well, she just started giving it to me. So it's been easier to not have to feel insecure and like bring it up constantly. But before it was like nothing. So I'm just. Constantly in my head, so I want to talk to her about it and she just makes it impossible.
42:33 Caleb Hammer? What? This seems pretty important.
42:35 Speaker 04 I don't know. I just, I disagree. I feel like I try to give her reassurance, but like, there are times where I'll say something and it's like, not exactly what she wants to hear. And so she'll tell me what she wants to hear. And then she's like, but I don't want to feed you lies.
42:52 Speaker 03 Cause I don't. You're an adult. You should be able to.
42:55 Speaker 04 But what I say isn't good.
42:56 Caleb Hammer? There is a certain, this is difficult because I feel like I've been there sometimes too. So I do understand it. In her brain, it's not.
43:08 Caleb Hammer? It's more complicated. Some people just need that extra guidance because it's just not in their just natural sphere.
43:13 Speaker 03 And I've given the guidance for two and a half years and I also lead by example.
43:17 Caleb Hammer? I mean, that's fair.
43:18 Speaker 03 If I fuck up, I mean, it's, it's a, an hour long, deep felt apology and like, you know, what I'm going to do differently next time. Like why it's not going to happen again. And her, wait, her, it's, I'm sorry. I love you. And like, that's it. That's it. And I'll be like, can you think of anything to say?
43:37 Speaker 04 I want to be here. I want to be with you.
43:40 Speaker 03 Not immediately after the fight.
43:42 Speaker 04 And shits and giggles.
43:44 Speaker 00 This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.
44:14 Speaker 03 After the fight.
44:15 Speaker 04 It is. So I have BPD. So a lot of times like she wants an immediate like, emotional like thing out of me, but like when my emotions are really high, like, she wants me to coddle her, but like I'm also upset. So like I need to cool down before I'm able to like, have clear thoughts.
44:36 Speaker 03 She is, you are fully capable of asking for a minute. Does she ever say that? No. I have to be like, do you need a minute?
44:42 Speaker 04 Absolutely a liar. There have been times where I'm like, I'm going to go sit in the office for a minute and she's like, oh, you're going to walk away from me?
44:51 Caleb Hammer? And if we can't get to a place of any kind of communication in a healthy way, what kind of features are here? Have to meet in the middle ground in some kind of communication style. Calm.
45:01 Speaker 03 I stay calm. I used to, I used, I used to get.
45:04 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, but you bring a lot of emotions. You do, you do emotional versus logical.
45:08 Speaker 03 That's fair. No, that is.
45:09 Caleb Hammer? Which isn't necessarily helpful either. It's okay to be emotional in an argument. Well, and like, having an emotional feeling and being able to communicate because of that. But it can't only be from emotions, especially when the other person's also a little more volatile, which she is.
45:26 Speaker 03 It's just difficult to handle when I'm so.
45:29 Caleb Hammer? So how do these end? Do they ever end with any productive?
45:31 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah.
45:33 Speaker 04 Eventually.
45:34 Caleb Hammer? Now, why do we think it's ramping up?
45:35 Speaker 04 I think I get really overwhelmed really easily. Again, like, do you know what BPD is?
45:41 Caleb Hammer? Yes.
45:42 Speaker 04 Okay, cool. Yeah, so like, instead of getting like crazy manic, I get like rageful, so it's just hard.
45:50 Caleb Hammer? She rages on you?
45:51 Speaker 03 She might throw a fan here or there, but it's never on me.
45:53 Speaker 04 Okay, one time. I just threw it on the ground. Not even toward her, like. Have you ever been to a rage room?
46:03 Caleb Hammer? If you know, yes, if you know you're getting to the point of rage, ask for five minutes. Ask for five minutes to go calm down. Why don't you give her time?
46:12 Speaker 03 Because my anxiety is so bad, I want to like fix it now.
46:15 Caleb Hammer? I get that. I mean, I'm closer to that as well. I, you know, I try to fix the situation, but you have to. You have to give that space for her to calm down, or else it just doesn't work. It won't work.
46:28 Speaker 04 Amen. I need to get my whip.
46:35 Caleb Hammer? And I assume there's a lot of pressure here too, especially with the kid being brought in. August says to Colton that she feels like she's carrying the entire, entire finances of this entire relationship. And she, she literally got a job to help try to pay off your debt. Well, you just, well, you just want to be a princess and, and she's not being spoiled at all, and she would love to get spoiled even just once. Well, she is. In control of the relationship, she's paying for all the dates, she's paying for everything, everything. And she got the job to pay off the debt.
47:08 Speaker 04 Car insurance, I pay his tuition, I pay for majority of our groceries. Yeah, she pays when we go out to eat, but mostly that's because she's the one that wants to go out to eat, like.
47:20 Caleb Hammer? And don't forget, I want you to be on the next episode of Financial Audit. So go to calebhammer.com/apply or click that link in the description below. You'll have a great time and I'm gonna roast the [__] out of you. Starbucks is bull [__] and a waste of money and you already know that by making your coffee at home and investing the rest. So now you need to do that with your energy drink as well. Make gamer subs at home for just 40 cents a serving. Honestly, it literally tastes better and we proved this accidentally via a blind taste test in our Hammer Elite show, Fat and Fatter.
47:54 Speaker 05 The number one ranked energy drink is gamer subs.
47:58 Speaker 06 Literally, the cherry flavor is insane.
48:01 Caleb Hammer? Listen, you can also get free samples to see if you like it or 10% off your order at gamersubs.gg or click that link in the description below, type in code Caleb.
48:11 Speaker 04 I used to be a really good meal prepper and then she'd be like, like she's the person, she can't like, think her meals ahead of time because if she's not craving it in that moment, she will not eat it.
48:23 Speaker 03 I go to Walmart like every [__] day.
48:27 Caleb Hammer? Is what she said true? Is what she told us in the pre-interview a lie? Are you not the one that is carrying the weight of this financial relationship?
48:33 Speaker 03 Absolutely am.
48:34 Speaker 04 Do you pay my car note?
48:35 Speaker 03 I don't pay a car note. I don't have, I don't have your bills, but I do take care of us. Those are like, you know, your bills.
48:43 Speaker 04 Most of our dates. It's also hard for me to.
48:47 Caleb Hammer? Just taking care of dates isn't control.
48:49 Speaker 03 I buy her so much shit, not, not that she asks.
48:54 Speaker 04 She hates a trinket because she's a minimalist. I'm a maximalist. It is so easy a shop for me.
49:00 Speaker 03 It would be nothing for her to go to the store and just pick up one pack of Pokemon.
49:04 Caleb Hammer? But buying bullshit like that is not carrying the financial weight of a relationship. That's not the, that's not, that's just buying shit. That's not taking care of bills, utilities, debts, shit like that. The tuition, that's not taking care.
49:16 Speaker 03 Mind you, she does put herself a bit in the hole. You want to talk about your Squishmallows or your littlest pets?
49:24 Speaker 04 I mean, not really.
49:25 Caleb Hammer? How much?
49:26 Speaker 03 Oh, she did cash flow it at least out of her savings.
49:28 Caleb Hammer? How much out of her savings? I mean, when and how much?
49:32 Speaker 04 Um.
49:33 Caleb Hammer? When and how much?
49:34 Speaker 04 Maybe a little over a year ago and it was only like 10,000.
49:39 Caleb Hammer? No, it was not.
49:41 Speaker 03 It absolutely was.
49:42 Caleb Hammer? 10,000 from a savings?
49:43 Speaker 03 We have 14 bags of squishmallows in our attic.
49:48 Caleb Hammer? Can you sell them?
49:49 Speaker 04 No.
49:51 Caleb Hammer? Why?
49:52 Speaker 04 I don't want to.
49:53 Caleb Hammer? So you can sell them, you just don't want to. Dude, 24, maybe even 23 years old at that point, with 10,000 in savings is awesome. Better than the average person. And you f***ed off for squishmallows? This is insane.
50:07 Speaker 04 Have you ever laid on a squishmallow?
50:09 Caleb Hammer? Have you ever had a child? Wait, the answer is yes. How about you take care of them?
50:13 Speaker 04 He is well fed, well groomed.
50:15 Speaker 03 He is very spoiled.
50:16 Speaker 04 In a private school, he's in soccer.
50:19 Caleb Hammer? Yes, but you could be setting up him up for so much success, like college in the future. All these different things.
50:25 Speaker 04 I have a sub account for him.
50:26 Caleb Hammer? Also, the most important thing is, as well, is a little bit of space, a little bit of independence. And if you guys are going to go into an apartment together and you will just drain your savings for $10,000 of squishmallows, what's gonna happen? Won't do it again, you gotta build up to it. And you spend more than you make and you're dead at 72,000, shut the f*** up. If we are in financial hardships, all of a sudden, no savings means bye-bye apartment, which happens to Americans all day across this country. Every day, every second, constantly. And you're not unique. And you'll have to start doing special favors to not do that. And we don't want you to do that. I don't want you to produce, f*** yourself if you don't want to.
51:01 Speaker 04 I don't.
51:02 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, well, there you go.
51:03 Speaker 04 Okay.
51:03 Caleb Hammer? So. Guys, what do we think our household? Pretend we're combining. We kinda know that big number. Our household financial score is 0 to 10, 0 being the absolute worst, 10 being the absolute best.
51:15 Speaker 04 I'm going two.
51:16 Speaker 03 I was gonna say two as well.
51:17 Caleb Hammer? Okay, if you want your Hammer Financial Score, take the assessment. It is free at CalebHammer.com. Just takes a few minutes. See where you stand in the world of money. Thousands of you do that daily, so you should too. CalebHammer.com. And also, tens of thousands of you are active members of the DollarWise Budgeting App. Tens of thousands, almost a hundred thousand, because it is incredible. People are changing their lives and you can download it and start a free trial to see if you like it. And if you do, guess what? Most people sign up for the annual version because it saves almost 50%. And you get my personal 30-day budget meal plan, signed by me, just like I did with this one, which you guys get. I will sign it and I'll mail it directly to you, so no more meal prepping, confusion, not being able to do shit.
51:56 Caleb Hammer? I lay out every meal, every snack, every drink that you can do for 30 full days. And then you just repeat that ongoing and switch it up. Do things around. Well, you want the cookbook too?
52:07 Speaker 03 I can do. I was about to say, I was expecting like a hardcover.
52:10 Caleb Hammer? Well, it's not being offered anymore, but you can have it.
52:12 Speaker 04 Limited edition.
52:14 Caleb Hammer? The meal plan is just more, uh, this is better for what people in the financial situation. Because it's good because you can cook a few individual meals, but the meal plan gives you the detail throughout a whole month.
52:24 Speaker 03 We do like to cook a lot.
52:25 Caleb Hammer? You're rubbing me.
52:27 Speaker 04 Sorry.
52:28 Caleb Hammer? I have a checking account first, which is very rare, which means something's here. Who has a checking account with $6 in it?
52:35 Speaker 03 That would be us.
52:36 Caleb Hammer? You? I, I carry the weight of the finances on my shoulder and I take care of everything. No bullshit, but then when you set about it, it was just going, going out to eat and bullshit and buying her trinkets.
52:49 Speaker 04 She also buys a lot of Pokemon.
52:51 Speaker 03 That card is more for my, my funsies.
52:55 Caleb Hammer? Your funsies?
52:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
52:56 Speaker 04 eBay.
52:57 Speaker 03 I do like eBay.
52:58 Caleb Hammer? Nearly $6,700 of funsies. In a month.
53:03 Speaker 03 And food. I don't know. I don't know what I spend my money on. Yeah.
53:06 Caleb Hammer? You don't know. Why haven't you plugged into something like DollarWise or a budget app of any kind? It's so easy. It's automated. Literally, you literally connect it. It takes like two seconds and it's automated and it tells you everything.
53:17 Speaker 03 I'm never like dying for money. You know what I'm saying?
53:20 Caleb Hammer? Okay, you have six dollars. What happens when that minimum payment is owed?
53:24 Speaker 03 I put my cash back in the bank. It just happened to be at six dollars when I sent it.
53:29 Caleb Hammer? Now you're gathering minimum monthly payments because you decided to open a credit card and not pay it off. What happens when that payment hits? I'll tell you. Either overdraft or return payment fee.
53:38 Speaker 03 I have like $400 remaining on that balance. So it's like right there. It'll be done.
53:42 Caleb Hammer? We'll see. Depends where your money is. Now with six dollars done by the end of the month, who knows? Who knows if drinks slow down, tourist season. Uh, when is tourist season in New Orleans? Cause it's getting hot. Exactly.
53:54 Speaker 04 Yeah, I know.
53:55 Caleb Hammer? So it comes dry.
54:00 Caleb Hammer? Hurricane season a-coming. What happens when a big storm hits New Orleans and you're down for a few weeks? You gonna make that minimum monthly payment anymore?
54:07 Speaker 03 She'll, she'll go travel.
54:10 Caleb Hammer? What? Is that a thing?
54:11 Speaker 04 Yeah. You know that?
54:14 Caleb Hammer? I did not know that.
54:16 Speaker 04 The more you know.
54:17 Caleb Hammer? Well, how do you even do? How do you? How do you? What do you mean?
54:19 Speaker 04 Like you literally just go wherever you want. You audition. You get a contract.
54:24 Caleb Hammer? You have to audition though and they have to accept it.
54:27 Speaker 03 She's hot.
54:29 Caleb Hammer? Up in smoke.
54:31 Speaker 03 I like, we both like to vape.
54:33 Caleb Hammer? What is wrong with everyone your age? Everyone your age is a vapor.
54:37 Speaker 04 I was on pills to quit.
54:38 Caleb Hammer? I was on pills?
54:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, but.
54:41 Caleb Hammer? Vape, smoking vape pills?
54:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, cessation. Yeah, cessation.
54:46 Caleb Hammer? I don't know. I've never heard of this. Okay, you were. Are you?
54:48 Speaker 04 No.
54:50 Caleb Hammer? Why does it even matter?
54:52 Speaker 04 Okay, well, so my mom switched jobs. I'm still on her insurance for just a little bit longer. So when she switched jobs, I lost insurance for a brief period, so I couldn't get a refill. And then I was too embarrassed to ask my doctor for like a, a fourth restart.
55:08 Caleb Hammer? It's a doctor?
55:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
55:10 Caleb Hammer? Doesn't give a
55:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, well.
55:13 Caleb Hammer? Was it working?
55:15 Speaker 03 You have no shame.
55:17 Speaker 04 A little bit.
55:17 Caleb Hammer? Was it working?
55:18 Speaker 04 It definitely helped me decrease my usage a lot.
55:22 Caleb Hammer? How much do you guys smoke?
55:23 Speaker 03 She would literally fight against the pill. She'd be like, oh, it's making me nauseous and then still smoke, which I, I mean, I like to vape.
55:31 Speaker 04 But if I did, skinny legend.
55:34 Caleb Hammer? Are you skinny?
55:35 Speaker 04 I mean, not really.
55:36 Caleb Hammer? You seem fit. You don't seem fat.
55:38 Speaker 03 She's not fat. I wouldn't even call her like.
55:41 Caleb Hammer? Oh, no, I wouldn't have even said you're pudgy.
55:45 Speaker 04 So you think I'm skinny? Thanks.
55:49 Caleb Hammer? Well, how do you not beat her?
55:51 Speaker 03 I, I think she's so cute.
55:53 Caleb Hammer? She is.
55:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
55:54 Caleb Hammer? How do you not beat her? She's obnoxious.
55:57 Speaker 03 You get used to it.
55:58 Caleb Hammer? Spending on vaping.
55:59 Speaker 04 A lot, probably.
56:01 Speaker 03 At sixteen dollars for one.
56:03 Caleb Hammer? Per person?
56:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:05 Caleb Hammer? So sixteen times two times two, sixteen times four?
56:08 Speaker 03 Times four.
56:08 Caleb Hammer? Well, let's do that monthly.
56:11 Speaker 04 She also overdrafted, by the way.
56:14 Caleb Hammer? Well, that's exactly what I just said would happen if you have six dollars.
56:17 Speaker 04 Last night.
56:18 Caleb Hammer? For what?
56:18 Speaker 03 Okay.
56:18 Caleb Hammer? Here in Austin?
56:20 Speaker 03 Okay.
56:20 Caleb Hammer? How?
56:21 Speaker 03 I went to buy her something.
56:23 Caleb Hammer? Three thousand, three hundred twenty-eight dollars a year. You lose a month's worth of income on your household's vape.
56:28 Speaker 03 That's actually foul.
56:28 Speaker 04 No.
56:29 Caleb Hammer? Yes. An entire month that you work goes to the vaping of the house.
56:34 Speaker 03 That is, that is an issue for sure.
56:37 Caleb Hammer? If you look, all of a sudden you figure things out.
56:39 Speaker 03 But the overdraft has been fixed. I did put money back on the card.
56:42 Caleb Hammer? But you overdraft. You head to exactly where I said you're going. You're already there. It's only gonna get worse.
56:46 Speaker 03 It was on my debit though.
56:47 Caleb Hammer? Yeah.
56:48 Speaker 03 It wasn't on the credit card. It was on my debit.
56:49 Caleb Hammer? That's, that's where overdrafting is.
56:53 Caleb Hammer? Dude, listen.
56:54 Speaker 03 What is it if I miss a payment on the card, the credit card?
56:56 Caleb Hammer? Late fee? Miss payment? Listen, the thing is, I've seen people entering your position and I've seen how it ended a years later. You're going down a dangerous path and you have no idea. You are at that point where you might be able to stop.
57:08 Speaker 03 Okay.
57:09 Caleb Hammer? Just had your overdraft? You are headed into slow season and eventually storm season even worse.
57:16 Speaker 03 I mean, I do have backup jobs. Like, I never, like, burn a bridge. So I do have bosses that will take me back.
57:21 Caleb Hammer? I hope so, but I know you guys are in the middle of New Orleans.
57:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:25 Caleb Hammer? There's only so much that you can do in your type of industry, backup jobs and all these different things during slow season.
57:31 Speaker 04 I plan on going to Florida, like Pensacola, to dance over the summer.
57:37 Speaker 03 That's if. That is if she can build trust, which I doubt it.
57:40 Caleb Hammer? Trust with who, you?
57:41 Speaker 03 Yeah. She's not going anywhere.
57:43 Caleb Hammer? You're gonna leave your son?
57:44 Speaker 03 Oh, she already has. You went on a week. You went. You were gone for like two weeks.
57:50 Speaker 04 Uh, I was gone for a week and a half to work and he does spend weekends with my mom and he loves going to his Lolly is what he calls his grandma, but he likes going to her house. So like when he's hanging out with her anyway, I'll go work.
58:06 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, you're talking three months.
58:08 Speaker 04 Uh, no, not the whole time. Like, I wouldn't stay out there for a whole three months. Like, Pensacola's, yeah, Pensacola's like
58:16 Speaker 03 Three hours?
58:18 Speaker 04 Yeah. Like, I can literally go for a weekend and come right back.
58:21 Caleb Hammer? Why go there?
58:22 Speaker 04 Because they're busy in the summer.
58:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:25 Speaker 04 Who doesn't go to Florida in the summer? Well, I mean, some people, but a lot of people don't.
58:29 Caleb Hammer? I thought that's when you shouldn't go, because that's when it's humid and disgusting. But, okay.
58:33 Speaker 03 Beaches?
58:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:34 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I mean, get in the water. Cash App sending fifty dollars out, where'd that go?
58:38 Speaker 03 To her? Or does it say?
58:40 Caleb Hammer? I don't know.
58:40 Speaker 04 No, it's you.
58:41 Caleb Hammer? No, it's blacked out. This is your account, but you sent out fifty dollars.
58:44 Speaker 03 Going out or?
58:45 Caleb Hammer? Yes, out.
58:46 Speaker 03 I don't know.
58:48 Caleb Hammer? I would never tell you in.
58:49 Speaker 03 I don't know. I make a lot of Cash App payments.
58:51 Caleb Hammer? Two for what?
58:52 Speaker 03 Sometimes to her, sometimes she'll get her nails done and be like, yo, can you send my nail person?
58:57 Caleb Hammer? Bro, look at those. What the fuck did that cost? Those are shit.
59:02 Caleb Hammer? Good back scratches, but shit.
59:04 Speaker 04 They're cunty.
59:05 Caleb Hammer? No.
59:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
59:07 Caleb Hammer? No.
59:07 Speaker 03 They're not her best ones. They're not my fave.
59:11 Caleb Hammer? Those nails pick up EBT.
59:13 Speaker 04 Okay, short king.
59:14 Speaker 03 Fucking weak.
59:15 Speaker 04 Anyway.
59:16 Caleb Hammer? I'm five foot nine, the American average. How tall are you?
59:18 Speaker 04 Short king.
59:19 Caleb Hammer? I'm a short king. Okay, so what, why would that even matter? See, American average.
59:25 Speaker 04 So proud of being average.
59:27 Caleb Hammer? I am proud of being average. Also proud of not having a kid at eighteen.
59:30 Speaker 04 Good for you. Anyway, uh, the five. One fifteen.
59:35 Caleb Hammer? No, they were not.
59:36 Speaker 04 What's up?
59:38 Speaker 03 I'm not paying for them.
59:41 Caleb Hammer? Jimmy John's?
59:42 Speaker 03 Yeah, good shit.
59:45 Caleb Hammer? I do like Jimmy John's, but you probably can't afford it.
59:47 Speaker 03 I mean, the money was in the account.
59:50 Caleb Hammer? You just overdrafted the other day retard. Literally yesterday. The day before coming on financial audit, you overdrafted, shut up. Cash out about forty dollars Walmart, that tracks with you guys. I don't even know if that was grocery, so it's not really expensive. You went and said I got some bullshit, what are you getting at the gas station?
1:00:06 Speaker 03 Probably pizza and a drink.
1:00:08 Caleb Hammer? Gas station, you're getting?
1:00:09 Speaker 04 Empanadas.
1:00:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, Race Track has great pizza.
1:00:12 Speaker 04 They have good empanadas.
1:00:14 Speaker 03 They do, thanks.
1:00:15 Caleb Hammer? Am I getting too privileged? Am I getting too privileged for this to like gross me out thinking about?
1:00:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's good.
1:00:25 Caleb Hammer? Mark? You're poor. Am I getting too privileged?
1:00:30 Speaker 04 Why don't you pay him enough? Uh, I don't know.
1:00:34 Caleb Hammer? Okay, a solid I don't know, okay. No, he'll get there someday, Mark, he'll get there someday.
1:00:42 Speaker 04 Give that boy a raise.
1:00:43 Caleb Hammer? When he meets his annual review performance, yeah, absolutely.
1:00:48 Speaker 04 You got this, Mark.
1:00:49 Caleb Hammer? That's what everyone does now. That boy's pizza, I bet that's actually good pizza.
1:00:55 Speaker 03 Eh, I would actually say Race Track is better.
1:00:57 Caleb Hammer? What the is wrong with you?
1:00:59 Speaker 03 And that was for our son, like, he likes pizza from there, so it's like this big.
1:01:04 Caleb Hammer? Do we have Race Track near here?
1:01:06 Speaker 04 Y'all have like 7-Eleven?
1:01:08 Caleb Hammer? Well, that's everywhere.
1:01:10 Speaker 03 It's not, we don't have it.
1:01:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, we don't have that.
1:01:12 Caleb Hammer? I guarantee you have a 7-Eleven in the city.
1:01:16 Speaker 04 No, not in the city.
1:01:18 Caleb Hammer? Cause I know Race Track, I think we have that in Michigan.
1:01:21 Speaker 03 To be fair, y'all's canes out here suck, so could be different pizza out here.
1:01:25 Caleb Hammer? So you guys came to a city with lots of good food and got canes?
1:01:29 Speaker 04 It was 3 a.m.
1:01:32 Speaker 04 What do you want us to do? Break in?
1:01:34 Caleb Hammer? Yeah.
1:01:34 Speaker 04 Okay, I might.
1:01:36 Caleb Hammer? Shit, no, we don't have racetracks. They're up in Dallas.
1:01:39 Speaker 04 I like Dallas.
1:01:40 Caleb Hammer? Why?
1:01:41 Speaker 04 They have a meow wolf.
1:01:42 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:01:43 Speaker 04 They have like cool art stuff. They have a meow wolf. There's this place called Rainbow Vomit. That was cool.
1:01:48 Caleb Hammer? Wow, no, you guys surprisingly do not have a 7-Eleven. Okay. Well, never mind. I was gonna get, I was gonna get some racetrack pizza from the post show, but we can't even get that. Cash app out 50 bucks. Again, Walmart, I doubt this grocery. It's probably bullshit. Ebay for $72. Ebay for $11.66. What?
1:02:04 Speaker 03 A keychain? It's a Tyranitar keychain.
1:02:08 Caleb Hammer? What? I don't know what that is. Did you just call me a slur?
1:02:11 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah. She's got it.
1:02:13 Speaker 04 That's him.
1:02:14 Caleb Hammer? It looks like a member of the KKK.
1:02:18 Speaker 04 That's crazy.
1:02:19 Caleb Hammer? It doesn't not?
1:02:20 Speaker 04 No.
1:02:20 Caleb Hammer? As someone that does not look like Pokemon.
1:02:23 Speaker 04 He kinda looks like, um, he looks like Tommy's little dinosaur guy, you know?
1:02:29 Speaker 03 Reptar?
1:02:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, something like that.
1:02:31 Caleb Hammer? Well, you have a young gravy tattoo, too?
1:02:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:02:34 Speaker 03 We're not showing that one.
1:02:35 Caleb Hammer? Why?
1:02:36 Speaker 04 It's on my ass.
1:02:36 Speaker 03 Right under the cheeks.
1:02:37 Caleb Hammer? Right under the cheeks?
1:02:38 Speaker 03 Under the cheeks, but cheeks is fat, so.
1:02:40 Speaker 04 It's an autograph, too.
1:02:42 Caleb Hammer? By him?
1:02:43 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
1:02:44 Speaker 03 On a piece of paper.
1:02:45 Caleb Hammer? He did it personally?
1:02:46 Speaker 04 He did.
1:02:46 Caleb Hammer? He is a fan of the show, right?
1:02:49 Speaker 04 Is he? Hey, baby.
1:02:50 Speaker 03 Hey, Ari.
1:02:51 Caleb Hammer? What? What's your alarm for?
1:02:52 Speaker 04 Hey, Matt.
1:02:53 Caleb Hammer? Well, look at it in the post show. Behind the paywall.
1:02:57 Speaker 03 Okay, period, yeah.
1:02:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, period. I was gonna have Baby No Money's name tattooed, but I'm waiting to get his.
1:03:04 Caleb Hammer? Why are you, why, why? Just why those two?
1:03:07 Speaker 04 Those are my boys. I love them.
1:03:08 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:03:09 Speaker 04 I love, Baby No Money's a really great person, and I love how unserious they are.
1:03:13 Caleb Hammer? She fully fell for it. Like, I'm sure he's not a bad person.
1:03:16 Speaker 04 Alex is awesome. He is.
1:03:17 Caleb Hammer? I'm sure he's not a bad person.
1:03:19 Speaker 04 He's vocal about like issues.
1:03:21 Caleb Hammer? That's why, that's why you fell for it. Cause he just goes on to whatever the next thing is. He just posts about it. Like, I don't hate him at all. Again, he, he wanted to come on the show. We've texted, like, he, he's a good, I, he's probably a good dude. But he's literally like the classic, like, online, like, whatever the next thing is. No, whatever the next thing is, he's an advocate for. So it's like, you just kinda fell for it. Like, you played right into his thing.
1:03:43 Speaker 04 And I will every time.
1:03:43 Caleb Hammer? It's good, so keep doing your thing, buddy. You're making money. I appreciate it.
1:03:46 Speaker 04 Love you, Alex.
1:03:48 Caleb Hammer? Alta? Okay, you don't?
1:03:50 Speaker 03 I self tan. It's a little light right now, but.
1:03:54 Caleb Hammer? In the sun?
1:03:55 Speaker 03 No, I, I can't tan. Like I just get sunburned.
1:03:59 Caleb Hammer? Marshalls, new winners had got some bullshit from racetrack again?
1:04:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:03 Caleb Hammer? You get energy drinks there too?
1:04:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:06 Caleb Hammer? Okay, no longer.
1:04:09 Caleb Hammer? You are now using Gamer Supps. It is 40 cents a serving. It tastes better. It's really good. It's so good. 40 cents a serving using my discount code, link in the description below. Get your free samples to figure out which flavor you like. And then either get the energy drink version or the electrolytes, non-energy drink version. It's up to you. Zeman melatonin versions as well. Check that out. 40 cents a serving. Make your energy drinks at home, just like your coffee now. That's how many times you go to racetrack. Five Below, PetSmart. Great, we have pets to take care of. Fantastic. Amazon, Walmart.
1:04:44 Speaker 04 The rabbits ruined my life too.
1:04:46 Caleb Hammer? Avian and exotic animals, $100.
1:04:50 Speaker 04 Yeah, we had to snip them.
1:04:51 Caleb Hammer? Snip what? The rabbits?
1:04:52 Speaker 04 Yeah, they had two litters.
1:04:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:55 Caleb Hammer? Uh, Dick's Sporting Goods, Amazon, bullshit, Up in Smoke again, McDonald's, Raising Canes. You can't say the financial weight of the household is on you and you're just spending it all on literally just pleasuring yourself.
1:05:06 Speaker 03 I mean, I buy it for her too.
1:05:07 Caleb Hammer? Raising Canes, which I do not know how a corporate chain like that, even one state away, has such a disparagement. Like, I don't really get that.
1:05:14 Speaker 03 The seasoning.
1:05:16 Caleb Hammer? That doesn't make sense. You know that ship from a factory somewhere, right?
1:05:19 Speaker 04 No, I'm telling you.
1:05:20 Caleb Hammer? It may have been some shitty workers at 3 a.m. It may have been some shitty workers.
1:05:24 Speaker 04 But like, even like.
1:05:26 Caleb Hammer? eBay again, $18.
1:05:27 Speaker 04 It was different.
1:05:28 Caleb Hammer? That doesn't make sense. eBay, eBay, $18 again.
1:05:35 Caleb Hammer? Discount Zone, bullshit. eBay, $40. Wingstop?
1:05:41 Speaker 04 Ooh, we love Wingstop.
1:05:43 Caleb Hammer? Going in and getting some bullshit. Apple Cash, Cash App, Cash App, Cash App, Cash App. Hundreds of dollars, Up in Smoke.
1:05:53 Speaker 03 Drinks.
1:05:55 Caleb Hammer? So get off the strip, go to another strip?
1:05:57 Speaker 03 Maybe, yeah.
1:05:59 Caleb Hammer? Why? Strip club, right?
1:06:01 Speaker 04 That's where I work.
1:06:02 Caleb Hammer? And then you spent money there where you work again, which how did you not just get a drink?
1:06:06 Speaker 04 Why are you looking at me?
1:06:08 Caleb Hammer? Why aren't you allowed to just get a drink?
1:06:10 Speaker 03 I just wanted to go like hang out with her.
1:06:11 Caleb Hammer? You go, you're such a fucking, no, you were just afraid she was getting inserted.
1:06:17 Speaker 03 I have friends there too.
1:06:19 Speaker 04 I have double layer.
1:06:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, she does double layer.
1:06:22 Caleb Hammer? What? You don't go naked on the strip?
1:06:24 Speaker 03 Hell no.
1:06:25 Speaker 04 First of all, it's illegal where we are.
1:06:26 Caleb Hammer? You can't titty out?
1:06:28 Speaker 04 No puss.
1:06:28 Speaker 03 Titty out.
1:06:28 Speaker 04 I mean, I should nip. Nips for tits.
1:06:31 Caleb Hammer? Well, there you go. That's nudity, but okay.
1:06:33 Speaker 03 But yeah, she definitely can't do anything.
1:06:34 Caleb Hammer? The one we went to as a hammer squad once was full.
1:06:38 Speaker 03 Eesh.
1:06:39 Caleb Hammer? Hello.
1:06:40 Speaker 04 Not this Poussoir for free.
1:06:42 Caleb Hammer? It was nice. I like it. But in the lap dances.
1:06:45 Speaker 04 No, still no.
1:06:46 Caleb Hammer? Really?
1:06:46 Speaker 04 Doubled up.
1:06:47 Caleb Hammer? It's kind of crazy. Also, thank you, chat. At the moment of filming this episode, we just hit 3 million subscribers, CP.
1:06:55 Caleb Hammer? Thank you, chat. Your hand is cold, your hand is hot. That's weird.
1:07:00 Speaker 04 Yeah. I have to use dry hands at work.
1:07:02 Speaker 03 You just got sweaty ass hands.
1:07:04 Speaker 04 Like liquid chalk.
1:07:05 Caleb Hammer? McDonald's, Crawlin's Seafood, getting some bullshit, Raising Canes, Appleville, McDonald's, you can't complain about her. When you're spending all this money, dumbass. Amazon Prime, Discount Zone, where you work again, Amazon, Crawlin's Seafood, I also missed a shit ton up here.
1:07:24 Speaker 03 I like seafood.
1:07:25 Caleb Hammer? Quit deep?
1:07:27 Speaker 03 Cutie pie.
1:07:28 Speaker 04 You okay?
1:07:29 Speaker 03 Cutie pie.
1:07:29 Caleb Hammer? Cutie pie boutique and Klarna TikTok shop.
1:07:35 Speaker 00 This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.
1:08:04 Caleb Hammer? Barna TikTok shop, exotic animal thing again. For one, going in, getting some bullshit. This is insane. It still goes on. You're a problem. You're gonna hold back the entire relationship because your parents have spoiled your entire life. I don't think you're being slaved. I don't think you know what the you're talking about. Okay, at that point, you just demand a lot. You just demand a lot and you can't accept any progress that's been done. It doesn't make any sense. And you're not doing enough, most likely, but even still, continue making that progress. But this bullshit at the beginning, like, I wanted to come on because my girlfriend treats me like a slave. No.
1:08:39 Speaker 03 I agreed to be here. I didn't sign us up.
1:08:41 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh. That's the note I had. Yeah, exactly. Cheesecake Factory, hundred bucks, walk-ons, Hulu Plus, Jimmy John's, Cash App 27, Cash App 50, Cash App 50, Domino's, Chegg Study, going to eat some bullshit, getting some bullshit.
1:09:02 Speaker 04 She didn't even know about Chegg.
1:09:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, I gotta cancel that. Chegg, it's like, uh, it basically helps you, like, do your homework and stuff.
1:09:10 Caleb Hammer? Cheating.
1:09:10 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're not gonna call it that. I don't cheat.
1:09:14 Caleb Hammer? Of course not.
1:09:15 Speaker 03 It just helps me do my homework.
1:09:16 Caleb Hammer? Uh huh.
1:09:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:09:18 Caleb Hammer? The Break Room, DoorDash, Dash Pass, Taco Bell, Clarny TikTok Shop, getting some bullshit, Apple Bill, bullshit, Ghost City Tours, Uber, Discount Zone, bullshit, bullshit, Henry's Esquera. Oh, this keeps going. Dedan Decour.
1:09:40 Speaker 04 Down Decatur.
1:09:41 Caleb Hammer? Decatur.
1:09:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. That was, uh, like our little voodoo shit.
1:09:45 Speaker 03 We did go out.
1:09:47 Speaker 04 Marilla Bo shit.
1:09:48 Speaker 03 A cute date.
1:09:49 Caleb Hammer? So as many of you know, I've been a big supporter of course careers for a long time. I'm not just a partner. I actually own stock and I'm an investor. So why did I partner with course careers? Because I truly believe in what they're doing. A lot of people have questions about online certifications versus traditional college degrees. Let me be clear. I wouldn't put my name behind something unless I knew it worked. The thing is, not everyone has the time or Resources to spend four years in college or take on massive student loan debt. Course Careers offers a practical, affordable way to launch a career in a high demand field like tech sales, IT, and accounting, where companies are hiring based on the skills needed, not broad college degrees. In fact, right now, one in three companies are dropping degree requirements, and that number is only going to continue to grow.
1:10:34 Caleb Hammer? I know some people think online programs are a quick fix, but that's not the case here. Course Careers takes effort and commitment, but they provide you with a streamlined, proven path. They offer up-to-date, self-paced courses, one-on-one or group coaching from people that work in the industry, and most importantly, they help you actually get hired. Just look at graduates like Namesso, who went from driving FedEx trucks to a cybersecurity job at Disney. That didn't happen by chance. He put in the work and Course Careers guided him every step of the way. And what truly sets Course Careers apart is that it's not just about learning skills, but landing a job. Their curriculum is designed based on what employers actually need, and their network of industry coaches will guide you through
1:11:15 Caleb Hammer? the entire process, from learning the skills to interviewing, resume help, and beyond. So if you're serious about starting a new career without wasting years or piling up debt, give Course Careers a try. Start with their free intro course, linked in the description to explore your options. And when you're ready, use the link in the description for $50 off the full course. Your future starts right now, and Course Careers is here to help you shape it. Hammer Elite is the best YouTube membership on the platform, and I just upgraded it. Three exclusive dedicated shows every single day, Monday through Friday. Join with the link in the pinned comment or description below. This is the best membership you'll ever join. That's a promise.
1:11:56 Caleb Hammer? Do you texter this shit too?
1:11:57 Speaker 04 I mean, text.
1:11:58 Caleb Hammer? I need more and all this stuff.
1:12:00 Speaker 04 Oh, no.
1:12:00 Caleb Hammer? Your little fights?
1:12:01 Speaker 04 We're always together.
1:12:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, we're always together.
1:12:03 Caleb Hammer? I'm gonna review that in the post-show. We'll see. Reverend Zombie House, guys, you spent so much money. R.A. Shop, going into bullshit, Raising Cans, bullshit, bullshit, Vet, PetSmart, Walmart, but I think bullshit, Crawlin Seafood, Pok-
1:12:22 Speaker 04 Pokéola. That's a Pokemon shop.
1:12:24 Caleb Hammer? $48? $48? You don't have money. You just overdressed for the first time yesterday. Fuck you. The theater, bullshit, theater, bullshit, bullshit, Up and Smoke, bullshit, JJ Seafood, Sally Beauty, Tootie Tootie Frozen. Raising Kids, Klarna, ATM withdrawal, forty bucks, who knows where that went? Thank, that's done, that's insane.
1:12:44 Speaker 03 Klarna's paid off.
1:12:45 Caleb Hammer? I am surprised, congratulations, it took four payments. Glad that happened automatically, without any self-restraint.
1:12:51 Speaker 03 Paid off like nine hundred.
1:12:51 Caleb Hammer? And then you just overdrafted yesterday.
1:12:53 Speaker 03 It's-
1:12:53 Caleb Hammer? So shut the f- up.
1:12:54 Speaker 03 Had the money, though.
1:12:55 Caleb Hammer? I'm surprised that is your first time.
1:12:58 Caleb Hammer? Okay, now all the debts are yours, which means you have an altar card.
1:13:02 Speaker 04 I do.
1:13:03 Caleb Hammer? What's going on with this?
1:13:04 Speaker 04 Um, I opened it, mm, twenty, twenty-two-ish, something like that. It was the first card that gave me like a big credit limit, which they never should have.
1:13:19 Caleb Hammer? They, no, you, you never should have signed up for, of course they want to, they're making money, what are you talking about?
1:13:24 Speaker 04 Um, it was like a five thousand dollar limit when I opened it, they dropped that. What? What is what?
1:13:31 Caleb Hammer? What's in your purse right now?
1:13:33 Speaker 04 Oh, do you want some?
1:13:38 Caleb Hammer? What is that?
1:13:40 Speaker 03 What do you think it is?
1:13:42 Caleb Hammer? I'm actually thinking sugar, from the look at it from here.
1:13:43 Speaker 04 It's salt. To clean my tongue.
1:13:47 Speaker 03 She just likes to pull it out as a joke.
1:13:50 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:13:52 Speaker 03 Speaking of, I know you hate this, but can I go to the bathroom?
1:13:55 Caleb Hammer? No. One thousand eight hundred seventy-three dollars, sixty-nine cents, so sixty-five dollar minimum payment.
1:14:00 Speaker 04 You got bedpans?
1:14:03 Caleb Hammer? This takes eight years to pay off.
1:14:05 Speaker 03 Oh.
1:14:05 Speaker 04 I pay more than the minimum.
1:14:07 Caleb Hammer? A little bit, but we'll see how long you can, while debt is going up other places, like, yes, you can in a month, it's like, we'll see. Thirty point nine percent, no, no, no, most of the interest is, okay, twenty-six, and then some is at thirty.
1:14:22 Caleb Hammer? It's insane.
1:14:23 Speaker 04 Dollars?
1:14:24 Caleb Hammer? Percent interest.
1:14:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, baby.
1:14:26 Caleb Hammer? Okay, you have a Freedom Card, what's going on with this? You're spending money on this? Spending money on an interest-agreeing card that you do not fully pay off, it takes two years if you don't spend.
1:14:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, um, that has my Amazon Prime subscription, and so like every time we like rent or buy a movie, it goes on there.
1:14:45 Caleb Hammer? Thanks, how much you pay off the cards? And use the checking account? Listen, I'll let you use the My Card, debit card that builds credit, I'll allow that, I'll get you both this course career certification when you make no money with your bachelor degrees.
1:14:56 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:14:56 Caleb Hammer? There's people in the audience have used them to get six-figure jobs. Yeah, are you in that now?
1:15:01 Speaker 04 No, I mean, right there.
1:15:02 Caleb Hammer? Exactly, you.
1:15:05 Caleb Hammer? I'll hear it when I hear it. Amazon, Amazon Prime, Prime, Prime, Prime.
1:15:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:15:09 Caleb Hammer? Someone, do you have a shared Amazon account?
1:15:11 Speaker 03 No.
1:15:12 Caleb Hammer? Pull up your Amazons.
1:15:13 Speaker 03 Fine.
1:15:14 Caleb Hammer? Eighty dollars and fees!
1:15:15 Speaker 03 Wait, do you want like?
1:15:17 Caleb Hammer? Fees!
1:15:17 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:15:18 Caleb Hammer? You've had late fees this year. Two.
1:15:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:15:21 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I pay, I pay more, I pay more. Then next account, two late fees this year so far, three months in. You, you've missed two out of three.
1:15:29 Speaker 03 You're [bleep] that. I'm screaming, my bad.
1:15:31 Caleb Hammer? Do you not care about that?
1:15:33 Speaker 03 I care.
1:15:35 Caleb Hammer? She's had two of the three months late this year.
1:15:38 Speaker 03 Are you actually? That purse is cute.
1:15:39 Caleb Hammer? Yes!
1:15:41 Speaker 03 She's talking about the damn purse.
1:15:43 Caleb Hammer? Yes, do we not give a shit?
1:15:44 Speaker 03 I mean, obviously, but that's...
1:15:46 Caleb Hammer? Then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? That's your, that's your wife, that's your almost wife. You were about to be her [bleep] wife. You don't give a shit, are you guys gonna combine accounts? Were you going to combine accounts?
1:15:57 Speaker 03 I don't, she wants to combine accounts, I've kind of been against it.
1:16:02 Caleb Hammer? What? Four hundred, twenty-nine dollar couch?
1:16:04 Speaker 03 We're moving out.
1:16:06 Caleb Hammer? You can't afford that, go to Facebook Marketplace. You don't have money, you don't have...
1:16:10 Speaker 03 We actually have a couch.
1:16:11 Caleb Hammer? Well, there you go.
1:16:11 Speaker 03 She just doesn't like it.
1:16:12 Caleb Hammer? I don't give a shit, you have dogs.
1:16:14 Speaker 03 I don't.
1:16:14 Caleb Hammer? Don't you? Okay, [bleep] off, you don't have money.
1:16:17 Speaker 03 It was a free couch.
1:16:18 Caleb Hammer? Exercise mat, don't have money. Ah, kink bed frame, you don't have money, sleep on a mattress, you poor mother [bleep]. Become not poor by not being dumbasses. You guys actually make six figures a year combined.
1:16:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, like, we're not poor.
1:16:33 Caleb Hammer? Yes, you are, that's what I'm trying to say. You don't need to be, you shouldn't be.
1:16:37 Speaker 03 I'm not asking people for money, I have the money.
1:16:40 Caleb Hammer? No, you don't, you overdrafted yesterday, are you [bleep]?
1:16:43 Speaker 03 Money went back onto the card, though.
1:16:45 Caleb Hammer? Yes, no shit, after you overdrafted, you don't have money. I just saw you checking the account, ain't doubt, shut up! Analyst charging cables, a dumbass purse, clothes for days, carpet cleaner, that one's actually fine, metal top feeder for rabbits, okay, I'll accept, Lego floating shelves for your [bleep] Lego bullshit, [bleep] you, it's stupid, blankets you don't need it, dog pee pads, why do we have that? Is that for the rabbits?
1:17:08 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:17:10 Caleb Hammer? You need a clipboard folder?
1:17:11 Speaker 03 I do.
1:17:12 Caleb Hammer? You need multiple clipboard folders? You need a thousand clipboard folders and notebooks? You need that fucking Pokemon backpack? No.
1:17:18 Speaker 03 I got a different one.
1:17:19 Caleb Hammer? Shut the fuck up! Spray things? Flexible tripod? What are you doing?
1:17:23 Speaker 03 Hmm, when you like to know.
1:17:25 Caleb Hammer? Yes, what are you doing?
1:17:26 Speaker 03 I actually don't know why that's in there.
1:17:29 Caleb Hammer? You purchased it for twenty dollars?
1:17:30 Speaker 03 I didn't buy it.
1:17:31 Speaker 04 No, it's in the cart.
1:17:33 Speaker 03 It's in the cart.
1:17:34 Caleb Hammer? Oh, I'm looking at the cart?
1:17:35 Speaker 03 Oh, you want my purchases?
1:17:36 Caleb Hammer? So this is for the OF?
1:17:37 Speaker 03 Maybe.
1:17:38 Caleb Hammer? Are you guys, so you're actively doing this?
1:17:39 Speaker 03 No, we're not actively doing it.
1:17:41 Caleb Hammer? But you're buying it for it?
1:17:42 Speaker 03 Been a conversation for a long time.
1:17:43 Caleb Hammer? So you guys are doing it? You guys are going to do it?
1:17:44 Speaker 04 We're talking about doing it.
1:17:46 Caleb Hammer? And where do you stand on this?
1:17:47 Speaker 03 We've been talking about it for like a year.
1:17:49 Caleb Hammer? What are, where do we, where's our opinions?
1:17:51 Speaker 03 I need more trust in the relationship. I don't know.
1:17:55 Caleb Hammer? For what?
1:17:55 Speaker 04 Do you want me to get out of my cart?
1:17:56 Caleb Hammer? I don't think you'll ever get trust, though.
1:18:00 Caleb Hammer? From both ends, I don't think she's ever gonna do what's required. And I also don't think, I think your goalpost will always move. So I don't think you're ever gonna have it.
1:18:07 Speaker 03 I mean, we did have it. Until like-
1:18:09 Caleb Hammer? Until what?
1:18:10 Speaker 03 The lying's been more recent, but-
1:18:11 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, lying, I mean, you were cheating, essentially. You were doing something behind the back that the boundary who said no.
1:18:21 Caleb Hammer? Yes.
1:18:22 Speaker 03 Okay. And you ask her why, and like, you can't even get an answer for it.
1:18:25 Speaker 04 I don't like hard copies.
1:18:27 Caleb Hammer? And all this bullshit in your purchases, it's so stupid. You have thirty three, three things in your cart?
1:18:36 Speaker 04 Being abused.
1:18:37 Caleb Hammer? Legos in her carts? Okay, you have a bottom trillion Legos in your carts and stupid shit.
1:18:41 Speaker 04 In the cart, though.
1:18:42 Caleb Hammer? Let me see your purchases, shut the fuck up.
1:18:44 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:18:45 Caleb Hammer? This is bullshit.
1:18:47 Speaker 04 Okay, the t-shirt was for our son's, uh, school fair thing.
1:18:52 Caleb Hammer? Beats. Bullshit, you just endlessly get-
1:18:54 Speaker 04 I go to gym, I need to have-
1:18:56 Caleb Hammer? It's just stacked with bullshit, this is so stupid. What a waste of money. Your entire life is a joke. Okay, what is this? True Accord? I'm standing at an amount of two seventy-seven. I don't know what this is for.
1:19:08 Speaker 04 Uh, that's my Klarna. It's in collection.
1:19:11 Caleb Hammer? Oh!
1:19:13 Speaker 04 Yeah. I, it was so long ago, though, I forgot what it was for.
1:19:19 Caleb Hammer? You're, it couldn't have been that long ago.
1:19:21 Speaker 04 I don't know.
1:19:22 Caleb Hammer? Two hundred seventy-seven dollars and seven cents. How'd you even get approved for this apartment?
1:19:26 Speaker 04 My credit score isn't that bad.
1:19:28 Caleb Hammer? What's your credit score?
1:19:28 Speaker 04 It's like six seventy something. I have credit karma?
1:19:32 Caleb Hammer? Mid.
1:19:32 Speaker 04 You wanna look at it? I actually got an email yesterday that my score went up.
1:19:37 Caleb Hammer? What's your score?
1:19:38 Speaker 03 I don't have a credit score.
1:19:39 Caleb Hammer? You just opened a credit card?
1:19:40 Speaker 03 I just opened it, but I don't have.
1:19:42 Caleb Hammer? You put that much on a credit card? You just opened?
1:19:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:19:45 Caleb Hammer? It's so stupid. Okay, what's this? A firm, right?
1:19:49 Speaker 04 Is that me?
1:19:50 Speaker 03 Yeah, I don't have a firm.
1:19:52 Caleb Hammer? Klarna. Your Klarna.
1:19:53 Speaker 03 My Klarna.
1:19:54 Caleb Hammer? Ebay's over and over and over again. Now you paid it off, but it's just still, it's money you are spending. Set of your future. Ebay, Ebay, Ebay, Ebay, Ebay, Ebay. Then your new credit card.
1:20:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:05 Caleb Hammer? Was the 2,000, brought it down to 400, but even still, it's aggressive, it is interest accruing, it is bad.
1:20:12 Speaker 03 Not for 15 months.
1:20:13 Caleb Hammer? Oh, my. What's your minimum? Probably like 25.
1:20:17 Speaker 03 I don't know. It's set up on auto.
1:20:21 Speaker 04 Ethical.
1:20:22 Speaker 03 No, obviously not.
1:20:24 Caleb Hammer? She makes minimums and she's gonna get so, she's headed down that path.
1:20:27 Speaker 03 I don't make minimums. I've been paying it off.
1:20:28 Caleb Hammer? A little more, but even still, you're not paying off the balance, which is the only excuse. The only way you are allowed to take out of balance is if you pay it off.
1:20:37 Caleb Hammer? What? What do you want?
1:20:39 Speaker 03 I just opened that card. I put it on there and now it's already down to 400. I feel like that's pretty good.
1:20:43 Caleb Hammer? But it's not down to zero. You cannot purchase things on a credit card. This is, it just shows how the behavior is gonna go into the interest accruing, period.
1:20:51 Caleb Hammer? You cannot open a credit card if you cannot fully pay it off. That is the entire way.
1:20:54 Speaker 03 When the interest?
1:20:55 Caleb Hammer? I, I, no, I would just put like gas on it once a month and pay it off immediately. That's what I would do.
1:21:01 Speaker 04 30%.
1:21:03 Caleb Hammer? It will be.
1:21:03 Speaker 03 Isn't that the goal?
1:21:05 Caleb Hammer? What? No! Cause this is gonna be accruing interest. You wanna be under that. No, no, no, no, no. Shut the up. You wanna be under that or else it's a credit.
1:21:13 Speaker 03 Okay, fine.
1:21:14 Caleb Hammer? But you can still keep it at $0. You'll be fine. Just spend gas once a month on there.
1:21:19 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:21:20 Caleb Hammer? What? What is your issue?
1:21:22 Speaker 03 And that was self-control.
1:21:24 Caleb Hammer? Then you shouldn't have access to the abilities to spend money you don't have.
1:21:31 Caleb Hammer? There you go. Take away the tools.
1:21:35 Caleb Hammer? Discover it. Almost paid off.
1:21:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:21:40 Speaker 04 That one's on auto pay for the full balance.
1:21:42 Caleb Hammer? I'm gonna cross it off. Yeah, I see. But it's still money you do not have that you're just purchasing and it's on the bullshit that I just saw. Prime Video, Etsy, Prime Video, Prime, Prime, Prime, Prime, Amazon Prime. This is stupid. Yes.
1:21:57 Speaker 03 Is that not the one that our kid was spending?
1:22:00 Speaker 04 I thought those were on the Chase.
1:22:02 Caleb Hammer? No, you have no idea what's going on. Ever about anything.
1:22:07 Speaker 04 That's crazy.
1:22:12 Speaker 04 Do I pay for two?
1:22:14 Speaker 03 Two what? Amazon accounts?
1:22:16 Speaker 04 Yeah. Cause are there ones? Only?
1:22:21 Caleb Hammer? Chase Auto, what is this? At a 12.74% interest rate. What's your car?
1:22:26 Speaker 04 My new car.
1:22:27 Caleb Hammer? New car. What did you get?
1:22:28 Speaker 04 I have two cars.
1:22:29 Caleb Hammer? What did you get?
1:22:30 Speaker 04 I got a 2025 Chevy Trax.
1:22:32 Caleb Hammer? Why? $33,129.97. Always the strippers that get a car they can't afford. $679. Going into the slow season, your income fluctuates way too much. And it's already worth only 21,000. You're underwater by 12,000 that you just got on a car. You're underwater by 12,000.
1:22:50 Speaker 04 Well, my other car had like some-
1:22:53 Caleb Hammer? Doesn't matter. Give them 10,000 hour car. Something. You don't even know what it was or what the cost would have been.
1:22:57 Speaker 04 I'm a girl. No, I don't know.
1:22:58 Caleb Hammer? Take it to someone that does.
1:23:02 Caleb Hammer? Bring the Bush one with you.
1:23:04 Speaker 03 God damn. Masks. Mask lesbian. I'm not Butch or Dyke or any of those other things.
1:23:12 Caleb Hammer? I wouldn't call you that.
1:23:13 Speaker 03 It's just a little offensive. I'm not Butch.
1:23:19 Caleb Hammer? You can cry to her about it later.
1:23:21 Speaker 03 Like if I looked like you, it'd be Butch.
1:23:23 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, yeah. No, bear.
1:23:24 Speaker 03 No, no, that's a gay man.
1:23:26 Caleb Hammer? Exactly. I'm a man. If he looks like me, it'd be a bear. No, you don't know what twink means. Twink is skinny.
1:23:33 Speaker 04 You don't have to be skinny to be a twink.
1:23:36 Caleb Hammer? Yes, you do. Yes, you do.
1:23:38 Speaker 03 Oh, he's saying yeah.
1:23:40 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, trust the gay.
1:23:41 Speaker 03 Fine, fine.
1:23:42 Caleb Hammer? You don't know what you're talking about.
1:23:43 Speaker 03 You're lucky you have one of those.
1:23:44 Speaker 04 Whatever.
1:23:45 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, no, no, bear. Chunkers. Yes, bear.
1:23:48 Speaker 04 I always thought of it like a-
1:23:50 Caleb Hammer? What am I?
1:23:51 Speaker 04 He's not a bear.
1:23:52 Caleb Hammer? Put me into something. Put me into a category.
1:23:54 Speaker 03 A tubby custard.
1:23:57 Caleb Hammer? It would be like
1:23:58 Speaker 04 A chubby twink.
1:23:59 Caleb Hammer? Cub bear. Cub bear, cub bear.
1:24:01 Speaker 03 A little cub.
1:24:02 Caleb Hammer? Little transition cub, cub.
1:24:03 Speaker 03 Whatever.
1:24:04 Caleb Hammer? What cub?
1:24:06 Speaker 04 Put those away.
1:24:07 Speaker 03 I know, right?
1:24:07 Caleb Hammer? What?
1:24:08 Speaker 03 Your whiskers.
1:24:10 Caleb Hammer? You don't like them?
1:24:11 Speaker 03 No, I'm a lesbian.
1:24:13 Caleb Hammer? You don't like them?
1:24:14 Speaker 04 Uh, no.
1:24:15 Caleb Hammer? You're a bitch.
1:24:15 Speaker 03 She likes them to look like babies.
1:24:17 Caleb Hammer? You like what, huh?
1:24:18 Speaker 04 I don't, I don't, it like gives like brush.
1:24:20 Speaker 03 It's like a trim or something.
1:24:21 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:24:22 Speaker 04 I don't like her lips hair either.
1:24:24 Speaker 03 I do shave.
1:24:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:24:26 Caleb Hammer? Okay, dude, this is a minimum monthly payment that in the slow season terrifies me of $679.61.
1:24:34 Speaker 04 And I do still pay my other car too. So I'm paying like almost a thousand dollars a month.
1:24:42 Caleb Hammer? What?
1:24:43 Speaker 04 Cars. Okay, I was by my, um, like, salesperson.
1:24:48 Caleb Hammer? Oh, shut the up. You don't get by a salesperson.
1:24:51 Speaker 04 No.
1:24:51 Caleb Hammer? You fell into getting sold.
1:24:53 Speaker 03 A
1:24:54 Speaker 04 But he convinced me for whatever reason.
1:24:56 Caleb Hammer? What do you think a salesperson is?
1:24:58 Speaker 04 Not trade in my other car.
1:25:01 Caleb Hammer? Salesperson, why are you listening to a salesperson?
1:25:03 Speaker 04 Uh, because what do I know? I'm a girl, Caleb. I'm just a girl.
1:25:07 Caleb Hammer? So, girls are congratulations on the day we hit.
1:25:10 Speaker 04 I'm a youngo.
1:25:11 Caleb Hammer? Today, because of your logic, on May, no, no, no. March 26th is National something, I don't know, payday. You know what that means?
1:25:21 Speaker 03 No.
1:25:22 Caleb Hammer? This is for the last calendar year, apparently, for the math that what men made from January 1st to January 1st. You guys now finally made from January 1st of last year to now. It took you an extra three months to catch up and you're advocating for that because you're saying women are don't deserve money.
1:25:38 Speaker 04 I don't think women are
1:25:40 Caleb Hammer? Well, you own 70 cents on the dollar because of you. You're bringing down your entire marketplace.
1:25:46 Speaker 04 I'm sorry, girls.
1:25:47 Caleb Hammer? I'm just a girl is an excuse for everything. Fuck you. Your fault.
1:25:52 Speaker 04 No, not on your birthday.
1:25:52 Caleb Hammer? And I'm happy you cost less. Unfortunately, it requires your family keeping you at a job, even though you're not qualified for it and you'd be fired if your family wasn't there. So what are you on this old car?
1:26:03 Speaker 04 I think it's like 7,000.
1:26:07 Caleb Hammer? Oh, next page. Oh, it's this. It's the one on.
1:26:09 Speaker 04 Ooh, it's under seven.
1:26:13 Caleb Hammer? Oh, you guys deserve to get it. Six thousand, seven hundred, seven dollars at a 10.46% interest rate.
1:26:19 Speaker 03 Are you not Jewish?
1:26:20 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:26:21 Speaker 03 Are you Jewish?
1:26:22 Caleb Hammer? No.
1:26:22 Speaker 03 So you can make that joke?
1:26:23 Speaker 04 You look like a-
1:26:24 Caleb Hammer? I can make jokes about anything I want. Whether or not someone chooses to be a friend it.
1:26:28 Speaker 03 Period.
1:26:28 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:26:29 Speaker 04 You look like a small and wide little Dicky.
1:26:31 Caleb Hammer? What's a little Dicky?
1:26:33 Speaker 04 You know, my little Dicky? Hi, I'm Dave.
1:26:36 Caleb Hammer? Huh?
1:26:37 Speaker 04 You know, white crime, shit like that.
1:26:39 Caleb Hammer? Is it L I L Dicky?
1:26:40 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:26:42 Caleb Hammer? How do you spell Dicky?
1:26:43 Speaker 04 With a Y. Dick Y.
1:26:46 Caleb Hammer? Uh, really? I mean, he's like full, like Afro. It's a perm.
1:26:51 Speaker 03 Okay. Oh.
1:26:54 Speaker 03 I love that you claim it, though.
1:26:55 Speaker 04 That's a choice.
1:26:55 Speaker 03 Good for you.
1:26:56 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, I don't care. Why? Does it not look good?
1:26:58 Speaker 03 It's a little fallen.
1:26:59 Caleb Hammer? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's time to re-perm.
1:27:02 Speaker 00 This episode is brought to you by Indeed. You're ready to level up your business, but the pressure to find the right person to make that happen is intense. Indeed sponsored jobs can help carry the load. It boosts your job post to help it reach quality talent fast. Cut through the chaos with Indeed sponsored jobs. Get a $75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Hiring now? Then this is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs.
1:27:31 Caleb Hammer? Today didn't work out very well. It was actually kind of weird. But like, I don't know what happened, but-
1:27:35 Speaker 04 That's also not good for your hair.
1:27:38 Caleb Hammer? It's okay. I take finesse, right? I'm fine.
1:27:42 Speaker 03 Trying to see the hairline?
1:27:44 Caleb Hammer? It's fine. I got a big forehead, but hairline's good.
1:27:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's pretty good.
1:27:47 Caleb Hammer? Yeah. No, I'm not Jewish.
1:27:49 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:27:50 Caleb Hammer? Would you care if I was?
1:27:51 Speaker 03 No, I'd feel better that you made the joke.
1:27:53 Speaker 04 I actually have a friend who loves a Jew.
1:27:55 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, we do.
1:27:56 Speaker 04 I would have put her on.
1:27:58 Caleb Hammer? $358 a month, so that's on top of your previous car payment. You have a child. Why'd you get this car so expensive? It's so stupid.
1:28:07 Speaker 04 So that I can safely drive in places.
1:28:09 Caleb Hammer? What? Do you think every car before 2025 was immediately you get in it and you die?
1:28:16 Speaker 04 No.
1:28:16 Caleb Hammer? You're a stripper.
1:28:17 Speaker 04 Okay, but also I'm not good at taking care of cars and this one comes with the app. So it tells me when I have to take care of it.
1:28:25 Speaker 03 I'm fully.
1:28:27 Caleb Hammer? That ever born.
1:28:28 Speaker 03 Not engaged.
1:28:29 Speaker 04 It'll tell me. It tells me when I need oil change.
1:28:33 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:28:33 Speaker 04 It tells me my tire pressure.
1:28:35 Speaker 03 Helpless.
1:28:36 Caleb Hammer? Literally.
1:28:36 Speaker 04 It tells me stuff.
1:28:37 Caleb Hammer? Literally go yourself. In Minecraft and not like literally.
1:28:44 Speaker 04 I actually die in Minecraft a lot. I don't play anymore.
1:28:47 Caleb Hammer? It's a kid's game.
1:28:48 Speaker 04 I don't have the dexterity.
1:28:50 Caleb Hammer? Dexterity? It's a kid's game.
1:28:52 Speaker 04 Yeah. I'm good at Mario.
1:28:55 Caleb Hammer? You're a D and a broken individual. Okay, you have thirty nine thousand hours of situlans.
1:28:59 Speaker 04 Hmm.
1:29:01 Caleb Hammer? Twenty nine thousand hours of situlans.
1:29:02 Speaker 04 Oh, really?
1:29:04 Caleb Hammer? That's not good. You're not done. Twenty nine thousand eight hundred sixty five dollars. Your minimum three games is gonna be like two hundred fifty bucks. Three hundred bucks, three, three hundred fifty bucks.
1:29:18 Caleb Hammer? On top of all your other debt that you really can't pay off. So does that mean this Chase checking account is yours? Three hundred twenty nine? Well, better than her.
1:29:25 Speaker 04 I don't have a checking. Oh, with Chase. I don't have a checking with Chase.
1:29:28 Caleb Hammer? So you have two?
1:29:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:29:30 Caleb Hammer? What the?
1:29:31 Speaker 03 Well, I keep one like.
1:29:32 Caleb Hammer? Went from two hundred to three hundred. Yep, E. It's transferring things back and forth.
1:29:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:29:36 Caleb Hammer? And you had an overdraft fee actually the other day. So not even just yesterday. So you've actually had multiple overdraft fees. So you actually have no idea what you're talking about. So shut the up. Do not defend your financial position in any way whatsoever. You're broken. You have no idea what's happening. You're broken. You have no idea what's happening. Shut up.
1:29:51 Speaker 04 Mm hmm. That's me.
1:29:55 Caleb Hammer? Okay. You have like a thousand different accounts. I don't fully understand why.
1:29:59 Speaker 04 So one of them, I have a sub account for.
1:30:03 Caleb Hammer? What? I'm so confused how you're the one that is doing better. Like a kind of, I mean, you have more debt and the car is Do you actually have 7,000 in savings?
1:30:12 Speaker 04 Yeah, well, that is
1:30:14 Caleb Hammer? How is the literal one doing better than you?
1:30:17 Speaker 03 Cause that's for her kid.
1:30:18 Speaker 04 Part of that is like already like put to aside because I pay, so my mom, like I said, she pays like half of his tuition. So 5,000 of that next year is going straight to his tuition.
1:30:32 Caleb Hammer? Tattoo supply, real, uh, Skin USA, nails, Amazon, Amazon, go getting fucking, uh, vending machine bullshit, Amazon bullshit, Amazon, Amazon, bullshit. Uh, where you work, discount zone. Do you think we have one of those here? Unless they use that name for a lot of places. Is it a chain?
1:30:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, it is.
1:30:55 Caleb Hammer? Okay. Never been, but I've driven past it. Avian and exotic animals again. So you guys go there every second of your life. Vaping, Chinese, Cash App, Cash App, up in smoke again. Bullshit, going to work, Amazon, up in smoke. Fucking the boutique again and withdraw and withdraw. Yeah, withdrawing 679. Who knows where that went? Vaping, Cash App, Cash App.
1:31:22 Speaker 04 That sounds like it was my car.
1:31:22 Caleb Hammer? Cherry kitten, Apple Cash. Oh, okay. Starbucks bullshit, nails again.
1:31:29 Speaker 04 Well, that's part of my
1:31:30 Caleb Hammer? Ideal Market, bull bullshit, Cash App out, Uber Eats, you don't have money.
1:31:36 Speaker 04 I think that was
1:31:36 Caleb Hammer? But no, uh, parking, I think, Cash App, Cash App, Apple Bill, vaping, uh, Southern Images.
1:31:45 Speaker 04 Uh, that was my son's school pictures.
1:31:50 Caleb Hammer? Don't start an OnlyFans.
1:31:51 Speaker 04 Why?
1:31:52 Caleb Hammer? Cause your kids' friends will find it.
1:31:55 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:31:56 Caleb Hammer? At some point, it's gonna be very embarrassing. And one of, one of you are more, and one of you are, would be decent to masturbate to, and you do not want your son's friends to masturbate to.
1:32:07 Speaker 03 To be fair, you have not seen me when I'm at work bartending.
1:32:11 Speaker 04 Body is tea.
1:32:14 Speaker 04 That waste is ridiculous.
1:32:16 Caleb Hammer? Are we gonna budget as a household or independently? Cause we should do as a household at this point, guys.
1:32:20 Speaker 03 I think so, yeah.
1:32:21 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so household income.
1:32:25 Caleb Hammer? Okay, let's get your debt and empty payments.
1:32:28 Speaker 04 I am, um, I did, I did get a planner for it.
1:32:36 Caleb Hammer? Good, proud of you.
1:32:37 Speaker 04 It was free, too.
1:32:39 Caleb Hammer? Wonderful.
1:32:42 Speaker 04 That's where I was.
1:32:43 Caleb Hammer? How many guys are you texting like this? How many guys does she texting like this?
1:32:46 Speaker 04 Two and a half.
1:32:47 Speaker 03 Three.
1:32:49 Caleb Hammer? What is in a half?
1:32:49 Speaker 03 Two and a half.
1:32:50 Speaker 04 One of them's kind of falling off a little bit.
1:32:53 Caleb Hammer? Why?
1:32:55 Speaker 03 I mean, they all live far away.
1:32:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, they do.
1:32:58 Caleb Hammer? So he fell off or you fell off? Why are you texting them? If you're not getting anything, why are you texting them?
1:33:03 Speaker 04 Companionshipy?
1:33:05 Speaker 03 Oh, wait, what the f- what do you mean?
1:33:08 Speaker 04 What do you mean? You read the text.
1:33:10 Caleb Hammer? Okay, we'll continue that in the post-show. I'm gonna look at all of them. Here we go. Okay, what's your rent?
1:33:16 Speaker 03 Fourteen.
1:33:17 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:33:18 Caleb Hammer? New rent?
1:33:18 Speaker 04 The soon to be rent, right?
1:33:19 Caleb Hammer? Utilities estimated, well, let's say like-
1:33:22 Speaker 03 It's included.
1:33:23 Caleb Hammer? Okay, is that including the internet? Gas and electricity?
1:33:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:33:26 Caleb Hammer? Good. Okay, debt and empty payments, one thousand one hundred sixty-seven dollars and sixty-one cents. Student loans will go on top of that unless you go to grad school, but then even knows, who knows what we're doing? Phone bill?
1:33:36 Speaker 04 Mine's like seventy-one.
1:33:38 Caleb Hammer? Okay.
1:33:38 Speaker 03 Mine's paid for.
1:33:40 Caleb Hammer? Okay, seventy-one. Gas, vroom, vroom, drive, drive?
1:33:45 Speaker 03 I would put it high up there because we both drive to school.
1:33:48 Caleb Hammer? Well, tell me where high up there is.
1:33:49 Speaker 04 Maybe fifty a week for me.
1:33:52 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so two hundred for you.
1:33:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, let's just put it at that as well.
1:33:55 Caleb Hammer? How much for car insurance?
1:33:57 Speaker 04 I pay mine, uh, six months in full, so...
1:34:01 Caleb Hammer? What is it?
1:34:02 Speaker 04 I think it's like fourteen for the six months.
1:34:07 Caleb Hammer? Okay, two thirty-three, you?
1:34:08 Speaker 03 Mine's taken care of.
1:34:10 Caleb Hammer? I don't understand how you're f- all this up. You are the issue.
1:34:12 Speaker 03 I, yeah.
1:34:13 Caleb Hammer? Kind of. I mean, you're getting worse. So two thirty-three a month for you, two thirty-four, we'll call it. Groceries, huh, kidding everything. We should be able to do about eight hundred, follow the meal plan, they gotta do meal prep, it's pretty good, so it's, you're okay. TP phone, anything else for you guys? Survive? Tampons, morning, after, all that good stuff, two hundred fifty?
1:34:31 Speaker 03 Eighty dollars for the rabbits.
1:34:33 Caleb Hammer? For, okay, yeah, I'll put that in the pad, okay. Eighty dollars for rabbits.
1:34:39 Caleb Hammer? Medical healthcare, their copays and shit on a monthly basis?
1:34:42 Speaker 04 Uh, I do get sick a lot. They're probably like 20 bucks.
1:34:45 Caleb Hammer? Okay, 20 bucks. Subscriptions, I'll put 50. Uh, okay, anything else that needs to be in this budget? I need to know now.
1:34:53 Speaker 04 My nails and hair? Like maintenance?
1:34:56 Caleb Hammer? Oddly enough, actually, it might be justified for your work.
1:35:01 Caleb Hammer? Okay, so here's the thing. I'll give you a thousand dollars for whatever. Are you a contractor?
1:35:08 Speaker 04 What do you mean?
1:35:09 Caleb Hammer? Okay, go [bleep] in Minecraft.
1:35:11 Speaker 04 Oh, I am, I am a, yeah, I'm.
1:35:13 Caleb Hammer? I'm giving you a thousand dollars for whatever. You put it towards fun, you put it for anything, it doesn't matter. And yet, even still with that, you have an extra 5,000 dollars left. So be easy. You guys just control your spending. You guys are absolute [bleep] morons. Seventy-two thousand, eight hundred forty-five dollars and sixty-five cents. Yeah, it is. You guys are stupid of even needing to be on this show. Minus student loans, forty-two thousand, minus, okay, let's just call it, uh, forty-two thousand dollars of what's left. Five thousand dollars, literally takes eight and a half months. And you get a fully funded emergency fund? Call that an extra eight months or whatever. A year and a half, you guys have a fully funded six-month emergency fund? And everything, and then you save up for retirement, you guys will be fine. That was the easiest [bleep] in the world.
1:35:54 Caleb Hammer? Shut up, you guys are [bleep] morons. Just control your spending and budget. Budget together. Shut the [bleep] up, children. We'll get back into that crazy shit and go through everything that's going on in the post-show. So make sure you stick around for that. But let's get the Hammer Financial Score first together. Spending in a budget over, uh, zero out of 10 because you overspent. Debt, there's collections, zero out of 10. Emergency fund, but that's savings for the kids. Okay, there was like, uh, 2,000, also additional 2,000, so two out of 10. Retirement, I didn't see anything, zero out of 10. Real estate, zero out of 10. Need to start saving for retirement now. In a year and a half, you'll be able to. And you'll be able to actually have a pretty good retirement together. So Hammer Financial Score. 0.5 out of 10. Get yours at CalebHammer.com. Join Hammer Elite by clicking that join button.
1:36:37 Caleb Hammer? Join us for an extra 20 minutes of this and the Financial Autopost Show and three premium shows posted every single day, six days a week. See you guys there and thanks for 3 million subs. Bye bye. At the end of that conversation, you said, "No, for emotional and extra shit." Yeah, what the fuck do you mean by that?
1:36:51 Speaker 04 I mean, not emotional.
1:36:52 Caleb Hammer? Please go into it. Tell, because she's not happy about this.
1:36:55 Speaker 04 We've had those talks.
1:36:56 Caleb Hammer? What are you getting out of this?
1:36:57 Speaker 04 I like to flirt.
1:36:58 Caleb Hammer? So you want to watch him jack off?
1:36:59 Speaker 04 I like to look at it.
1:37:00 Caleb Hammer? Hammer Elite is the best YouTube membership on the platform and I just upgraded it. Three exclusive dedicated shows every single day, Monday through Friday. Join with the link in the pinned comment or description below. This is the best membership you'll ever join. That's a promise.
1:37:18 Speaker 01 Now, more than ever, we need someone on our side. But Rob Whitman? Whitman's votes drove up costs, cut Medicaid and risked 350,000 Virginians' healthcare to pay for tax breaks for himself and his donors. He's not on our side. Shannon Taylor will fight corruption, cut taxes and bring down costs. This November, vote for Shannon Taylor. She's for us. Paid for by HMP, the House Majority PAC dot com. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
Previous Racist B*tch Has $0.02 To Her Name | Financial Audit Next $160,000 Of Weed Debt | Financial Audit Page updated October 30, 2026 · transcript and summary are machine-generated