You Can't Buy Inner Peace, Here's How to Find It | Yung Pueblo

Yung Pueblo is the author of Journey: The Year That Changes Everything and a long-term daily meditator. Inner peace is the spaciousness to witness tension without letting it control reactions. Topics include Vipassana silent retreats, impermanence, the four elements framework from Journey, and a four stage process for designing a life through intention, action, consistency and letting go.

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• 2:54Lewis Howes?

  the world, but if you don't know how to handle the problems that are happening in your life, handle them properly in your mind, then you're always going to have stress. That's a quote from today's episode. My name is Lewis Howes and welcome to the School of Greatness. Maybe you woke up already overwhelmed today because the to-do list is stacking up. There might be some tension in your chest. And before you know it, you're snapping at the people you love the most, or you're just less patient with them. Or maybe you've done everything you were told would make you happy, and you still don't feel at peace. And if that's you, you're going to love this episode because here, you're going to learn the four-stage process to design the life that you want without fighting change. You're going to

• 3:36Lewis Howes?

  learn how to pause before old reactions start to take over, why self-awareness without compassion turns into shame, and that's something I've known well too long in my life, and the three things that you need in alignment to build real self-worth. Today's guest is Yung Pueblo. He's a number one New York Times bestselling author who has meditated two hours a day since 2015 and just completed a 60-day silent retreat. He's here to tell us all about his new book and the journey of what this has been like for him. The book is called Journey: The Year That Changes Everything. I'm so excited for

• 4:18Lewis Howes?

  you to tap into today's episode. So please welcome the one and only Yung Pueblo on the School of Greatness.

• 4:29Lewis Howes?

  Almost everyone I speak to is missing one thing in their life, and it's inner peace. They don't know how to find it. They don't know what it is. So I guess my first question is, what is the definition of inner peace for you? And how does someone actually find inner peace?

• 4:45Speaker 01

  The challenge of inner peace is that you can't pay for it, right? You could have everything in the world. You could be the most successful person in the world, but if you don't know how to handle the problems that are happening in your life, handle them properly in your mind, then you're always going to have stress. You're always going to be struggling, and the challenges will feel bigger than they actually even are. The way I define inner peace is not that you have perfect bliss or that life is flawless. Inner peace is your ability to have spaciousness in your mind where you can feel the tension that's happening, you can witness it, allow it the space that it needs, without having a control your actions. And that way, instead of the tension becoming bigger and bigger,

• 5:29Speaker 01

  you just give it space to evaporate.

• 5:31Lewis Howes?

  So what does that look like? Say you're having a stressful morning, or there's a lot of things that stack on your plate where you feel like I'm overwhelmed, or I'm feeling anxiety in some part of my life, and you're feeling it build, the tension. What does that mean with this space?

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, so there's two things, right? Especially when you're waking up and you realize, wow, there's so much that I need to get done. You're already feeling the tension inside. What you're doing is, one, you're being honest about it. You're just not trying to fake happiness. You're not trying to fake perfection. You're not trying to act like everything's okay. You're just accepting, okay, in this moment, I feel the stress, I feel the tension. And two, you are voicing it to the people around you, whoever you're in proximity to. Because normally, when we ignore the stress that's happening inside of us, we project it onto the people around us, and we start unnecessary arguments. And that's a big challenge in life. So you want to-

• 6:23Lewis Howes?

  Stay aware of it first.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  You want to be aware of it. You want to be honest about it. You want to accept it. And then it's a fantastic thing to just let the people you know, like, you know, if I don't feel good, I'll let my wife know, like, wow, I'm feeling a little bit heavy today. That way, I know it, she knows it, and it's a better day.

• 6:39Lewis Howes?

  What's the second part of that? First is being aware or being honest about it?

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Being honest about it for yourself, and then voicing it to whomever you're in proximity to. So if you have a roommate, your friend, your partner that you live with, you know, normally the problem happens with whoever's closest to you. And letting them know that you're feeling a little bit down helps you not fall into that slippery slope of starting unnecessary arguments.

• 7:02Lewis Howes?

  Right. Now, you meditate every single day, or you have been for a long time, right? Is this a decade plus or?

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've been meditating every day for two hours a day since 2015.

• 7:14Lewis Howes?

  So 11 years.

• 7:16Speaker 01

  11 years. And I've been, you know, I started off with 10-day retreats that were totally silent, and I've gone to 20-day, 30, multiple 45-day-long retreats. And this year, from January 1st to March 3rd, did my first 60-day silent retreat.

• 7:34Lewis Howes?

  That is crazy. What is the difference between a 10-day silent retreat and a 60-day silent retreat? And what did you learn about yourself-

• 7:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:43Lewis Howes?

  -at the end of that process?

• 7:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so in the style of Vipassana that I practice, the 10-day sort of, you know, it's really an introduction, even though it's 10 days really hard.

• 7:51Lewis Howes?

  It seems like a lifetime for people, yeah.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's hard. It's quite challenging, but it's really the beginning. Whereas in a 60-day retreat in that same style, you're meditating with people who, you know, have been putting in decades and decades of work, like people who've been meditating for 30 years, 40 years, 50 years. So in terms of like, who is there? No one there is a novice. People are just like, people who have deeply committed to wisdom, and most of them are like teachers in the same tradition, and they're people who like know the techniques so well that they can support themselves as opposed to like needing a teacher to support them.

• 8:33Lewis Howes?

  So in a 60-day silent retreat, did you ever feel stress?

• 8:37Speaker 01

  It was the calmest retreat I've ever experienced, but because it was so calm, it was so deep. Like I've had other retreats, like forty five day ones where it did feel stressful or it did feel hard and challenging, but this one was so incredibly calm that it felt like it opened up new clarity to how this universe actually works, especially when it comes to impermanence, change, and how when I fight change, I immediately am causing myself stress.

• 9:06Lewis Howes?

  When you fight change, you're immediately causing yourself stress. So what did you learn about the secret of the universe and sixty days of silent meditation?

• 9:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, the primary truth of the universe is that change is happening at every level of existence, right? So it's happening at the atomic level, the biological level, the cosmological level. Everything is always changing and it's always flowing forward. So to me, what that looks like is that requires me to have flexibility in terms of my identity, right? Like I need to not be attached to my preferences. I need to allow myself the opportunity for growth. And if I try to fight change, if I try to create a static sense of reality, then I'm not stronger than the universe. The universe is just gonna like flow right over you. And that's when life gets hard is when you just hate change, but the only truth of life is is change.

• 9:58Lewis Howes?

  Why do people struggle so much with changes?

• 10:01Speaker 01

  It's because our minds are geared towards attachment, right? And attachment is inflexibility. Attachment is me trying to say, I like the way this reality is right now.

• 10:14Lewis Howes?

  I'm gonna keep it this way.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  And I would like for it to always be like that, but that's just never going to be so. So having this like perfect sense of reality or this idea that you're always trying to crush reality into to always be a certain way, it's just not going to work out. Eventually, there is going to be some change that's uncontrollable and you're going to have to deal with it.

• 10:32Lewis Howes?

  So if people have an idea of what their dream reality looks like for their life, that they want to create for themselves, you've got a process, a four-stage process. Can you walk us through what those stages are?

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's important to understand that reality, even though you can't fully control it because everything is always changing, that doesn't mean that you can't design your life. So what is the way that you design your life? You need to have an intention and then you have to allow that intention to flow right into your actions so that you're actively building the foundation that your new life is on and then have that consistency to keep showing up in that particular manner. And then at the end of it is just like, you have to do your best to also let go because the strategy that works today for how you want your life to be is not going to be the same strategy that you're going to need in twenty twenty seven. So you have to have that adaptability.

• 11:28Lewis Howes?

  So intention first, actions and consistency with those actions.

• 11:31Speaker 01

  And then adaptability.

• 11:32Lewis Howes?

  Then letting go.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:34Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. So many people are attached to a certain way of being.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:39Lewis Howes?

  They never let themselves go into what they need to shift or adapt into to create the new reality.

• 11:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. I think that's, it's hard because we have such a static sense of ourselves where like, I'll always be this way, or I always want my relationship to be this way, or this is my dream job. But there's so much that we don't know and so much that we can't control that we, if you want peace, if you want to live a good life, you have to allow yourself to flow through life as opposed to forcing everything to happen in a particular way.

• 12:11Lewis Howes?

  Do you think if someone is feeling extremely overwhelmed or stressed out or anxious, and it's happening constantly in their life, do you think people have the ability to tap into inner peace in a moment and let it all go? Or is it really take time?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:25Lewis Howes?

  To de-stress and be in a place of inner peace?

• 12:30Speaker 01

  I think there are a few things that you can do. I mean, two things that really come to mind that a lot of people forget when life is hard is that they throw gratitude out the window. Like as soon as the challenge comes, they forget that I have access to clean water, I have access to good food, I have a roof over my head. Not everybody has that. These are sort of life fundamentals that create so much safety and security in our lives that it's, it's too bad that when life gets too hard, we immediately forget about them. So grounding yourself in gratitude can really help ease that tension of, oh, I want more, or I want the things to be in this particular way. And the other aspect of that is just even at the intellectual level, like it reminds yourself that change

• 13:11Speaker 01

  is always going to happen and not in a way to scare yourself, but in a way to inspire yourself to be more present, right? Like next time I'm with my mom, like, I don't know how long my mom's gonna live, but I want to be so present with her because I know that this moment won't last forever. So let me enjoy her now.

• 13:29Lewis Howes?

  Well, one of the things you hear people talking about when it comes to creating that inner peace is self-awareness. It's something you talk about as well. But sometimes people use self-awareness as a time for self-judgment.

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:42Lewis Howes?

  And say, okay, I'm being aware of myself. I look horrible. I sound horrible. I'm, I make, I made dumb decisions. I regret this. Like, and they put a lot of shame and guilt on who they are, who they've been, instead of self-awareness and self-acceptance. So how do we go from a place of self-awareness empowering us instead of self-awareness becoming self-judgment or shame?

• 14:09Speaker 01

  That's such a good question. I think it's not true self-awareness unless it comes with a component of compassion, because compassion allows for that space for self-acceptance, right? Like when you turn your attention inward and you look at your own inner forest, right? Everything that you've gone through, how you, how your identity is shaped, what are the big moments in your life that have really shaped your perception and how you view the world? There's going to be things that you like about yourself and things that you find challenging, but it does not help to beat yourself up. What does help is understanding that you are an imperfect human being, just like everybody else. And you can simultaneously accept that, yes, there is room to grow. So there's no problem with having a growth-oriented

• 14:53Speaker 01

  mind, but it's just unproductive to, to beat yourself down.

• 14:57Lewis Howes?

  Do you ever beat yourself up today?

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Today's been pretty.

• 15:00Lewis Howes?

  I mean.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. In this season of life. Yeah, for sure. I feel like sometimes when, um, like some people always ask me, like, you know, you meditate a bunch, your wife meditates a bunch, you must never have any arguments, or you must never have any sort of challenges between the two of you. And that's totally not true. You know, like we have moments where we catch ourselves projecting our inner tension onto each other.

• 15:22Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 15:22Speaker 01

  And I'll notice I'm like, oh, wow, I did not say that nicely. Like actually, and like, let me apologize. So what has changed is that when we argue, the arguments are a lot calmer. And whenever we like say something a little mean to each other, we catch ourselves a lot more quickly. And it's not like the other person has to point your attention to it, but it's like, you were like, whoa, I just spoke really impulsively. My bad. Let me like, you know, sort of reorient my balance.

• 15:49Lewis Howes?

  Where do you think your relationship would be if you weren't meditating every single day?

• 15:53Speaker 01

  It wouldn't exist.

• 15:54Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 15:54Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 15:55Lewis Howes?

  Why not?

• 15:56Speaker 01

  Cause it was a hurricane, man. Like with the first, the first six years of our relationship were literally a hurricane. It was so challenging.

• 16:04Lewis Howes?

  Were you guys meditating then?

• 16:05Speaker 01

  No, no, no. The first six, so we got together when I was nineteen and she was eighteen. And we didn't start meditating until I was twenty four and she was twenty three. So it was a, a number of years of just a full lack of awareness, no emotional maturity. And it was, it was like living in a constant blame game where the mind does not want to accept responsibility for itself. So if I'm feeling tension, my mind is going to try to figure out how is it your fault? And that's what happens with an untrained mind and it creates a lot of trouble.

• 16:41Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:41Lewis Howes?

  So most of your days, or if you felt like something was off, maybe it's not every day, but whenever something felt off in your mind, it went into projection of blaming the other person?

• 16:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. One of my favorite stories is my, my, so a few years after we started meditating, Sarah and I are in different rooms and we're both doing our work, but working on our laptops. And she comes into the room laughing and she's like, she's like, you would not believe what my mind was doing. And I was like, what, what's going on? And she was like, I kept going further and further back in time, trying to figure out how this heaviness is your fault. She's like, but it has nothing to do with you. It's just the mind trying to find more reasons to not accept its responsibility over itself.

• 17:28Lewis Howes?

  So you think you guys would have broke up had you not been meditating?

• 17:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was hard. It was hard. And it was interesting because at that point, you know, that first ten day retreat, I realized that our relationship was at a brink. And it was also a moment where we were deciding, should we be together for the long haul? Or should we break up? I mean, we were literally like on a break when I did that first ten day retreat. And when it was done, when the retreat was over, it hit me so hard. It was like, what am I doing? Like, this is the most special person in my life. Like, how could I even think in that way that I should not be with her? And I actually ended up calling my mom after the retreat and telling her, you know, I think I want to ask Sarah to marry me. And my mom gave me her, you know, we grew up really poor. Like, as you

• 18:14Speaker 01

  know, she gave me this, uh, the engagement ring that my dad gave her, which is like a tiny, tiny little ring, you know, from Ecuador and proposed to Sarah with that like two weeks after the retreat.

• 18:26Lewis Howes?

  But you were thinking weeks before that, like I should end this?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, weeks, yeah. Weeks before that I was, we were really on the fence and we were both trying to figure out like what we were gonna do. And I realized the clarity of that retreat was how much I was not valuing her, how much like my love was driven by what I wanted as opposed to what I wanted to give to her.

• 18:48Lewis Howes?

  So you weren't valuing her at that time?

• 18:50Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 18:51Lewis Howes?

  You were expecting her to give you something else?

• 18:52Speaker 01

  Full expectations, full attachment, like full, just like, how, what can I get out of this as opposed to what can I give?

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• 21:46Speaker 01

  I think it's really important for both people to realize that they're imperfect and that they're open to growing so that they're conscious of the truth that the harmony in this relationship is in part built by the harmony that's inside of me.

• 22:04Lewis Howes?

  Each person.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Each person, right? So I could give so much to an individual, but if they don't have their own mindset of happiness, they're not going to be able to receive what I'm giving them.

• 22:16Lewis Howes?

  You could be the best husband or they could be the best wife in the world. Yeah. But if the other person is living inside of a storm inside them every single day in their mind and their heart and soul, you're not going to be able to receive that.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:30Lewis Howes?

  And be appreciative of that value, that gift, that love, that whatever it is, right? That presence.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, love is about giving and receiving. And a lot of times people who've had really hard lives, they struggle with receiving because they have had their backs against the wall for so long and have played life on the defense that they don't know how to just like accept the kindness that's coming their way. And that was something I had to work on because growing up really poor, growing up like seeing my parents constantly fight about, you know, how are we going to pay the rent? How are we going to put food on the fridge? To me it was like, well, I have to help them. I have to help others, but no one should need to help me, right?

• 23:11Lewis Howes?

  So after this 60-day silent meditation, what are the three biggest lessons you learned about yourself?

• 23:16Speaker 01

  The most honest lesson that I learned is that my mind struggles when I take my identity too seriously.

• 23:26Lewis Howes?

  Give me an example.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  So what that looks like is, you know, I'm like falling into these, you know, different problems or thinking about different situations or, oh, this, you know, this thing, this post didn't go well, or this, you know, deal didn't come through the way I wanted to. And then I have to remind myself, like, what did I learn? What did impermanence show me? Impermanence showed me that even the observer is impermanent. Even the person that's witnessing the emotions flowing through you, like that is a fully impermanent condition where mental and physical phenomena are moving so rapidly that it creates this temporary sense of I, Diego, I exist. But in reality, you're not even real, you know?

• 24:09Speaker 01

  So it's like to me, when I'm taking myself too seriously, it's like, dude, you gotta chill out. You're not even real.

• 24:14Lewis Howes?

  Okay, so how do we?

• 24:17Lewis Howes?

  How old do you think your mind is versus how old your body is? Do you think your mind is the same age as your body?

• 24:23Speaker 01

  I wonder, I don't know. I mean, I feel like my, you know, Sarah and I were by far the youngest people at the 60-day retreat. Like, we were, we were meditating with people, men who were, there was the, the teacher on the women's side, and she was 94 years old.

• 24:39Lewis Howes?

  Holy cow.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  And she looked 70.

• 24:42Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 24:43Speaker 01

  She looked like, she looked incredible and she was, her mind was so sharp. Like, her mind was razor sharp. And there was a guy on the, on the men's side, he was 92. And he was walking faster than I was walking, you know, when we were like out there to, during our breaks and all of that. So, um, but in terms of wisdom, it's hard to like denote like, oh, how wise you are or like how much progress have you made? What I, what I do know is that the way that I react is not the same way as it used to be, right? Like, the reactions still happen, but they're much lighter and I can bring myself back into harmony a lot more quickly than before.

• 25:22Lewis Howes?

  What would you say is the second biggest lesson you learned?

• 25:24Speaker 01

  I think the second biggest lesson is that there is such a big value to community. You know, like you've, you're really going to rise to the, to the height of like whoever is the most like inspiring person in your group. And it was so beautiful, like when we went to this 60-day retreat, there was about, about 15, 16 of us who were from Central America, the United States, and Canada. So we rolled in there as a group, you know, we all met in, in, um, in Mumbai. They took the train up to go to Bhuj. This, this course was in India. And it was funny because if you think about it in terms of like professional athletes,

• 26:07Speaker 01

  like people put in the time so much so, so in terms of like, how, how much are these people meditating? Like, this is on the, the very sort of far end of the bell curve. Like, people were putting in a decade, like 30,000 hours, 40,000 hours of work. So we showed up there like as a group and it was just like, there was so much kinship with our, our, you know, our bond of like, we're all so devoted to this path of wisdom that we, that support was there the whole way through. So I don't take who I surround myself with lightly.

• 26:40Lewis Howes?

  A lot of people know that they need to take on a new way of being in order to create different results for themselves.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:48Lewis Howes?

  But what is the difference between knowing something about what you need to do and actually integrating it that most people get stuck around?

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think, um, a lot of times people don't realize that consistency is the whole game. It's the whole game. And if you want to develop happiness, you have to understand that happiness requires mental training because the mind wants to blame others, the mind wants to be attached, the mind wants to be inflexible. So you have to show your mind a different way to be able to take energy away from the old patterns and put energy into new healthier habits. And that takes consistent, consistent letting go of the old way that you used to be and putting energy into, okay, this is the way that actually feels aligned for my values, for my nervous system, and for my intuition.

• 27:39Lewis Howes?

  How does their mind hijack most people today? They're making them live unhappy? And what is the strategy they could use to take control of their mind to live happier?

• 27:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, the key, key strategy is slowing down. So when we talk about self-awareness and inner peace, right? Self-awareness is me having the spaciousness of mind to see the old impulse arising. Like, this is how I used to act in the past. This is how I would normally react to a situation. So you see the impulse arising, but then inner peace is you having that pause button. Is you being like, okay, I see that coming, but I know from experience that that has not been productive. That is not going to bring new results. So let me slow everything down and just, I'm not suppressing anything. I'm still witnessing its truth, giving it space to breathe, but I'm not going to act on it.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  And I'm going to give myself time to actually choose something skillful that will hopefully bring out new results.

• 28:39Lewis Howes?

  Why is it so, maybe not fun, but why does it feel so good to react so quickly?

• 28:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:46Lewis Howes?

  Even when you know you probably shouldn't have said that thing or written that response or reacting that way? Why does it feel so familiar for most people to just react when they don't like something?

• 28:57Speaker 01

  It's because it's, it creates this illusion that the lightning-fast reaction is the real you, but that's not true at all. The, that lightning-fast reaction is the way that your past self would defend themselves.

• 29:13Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 29:14Speaker 01

  Whether it's like some anger or some sad, you know, whatever it is, it's like your coping mechanism is coming up fast. And having the, the wisdom to just realize, okay, that impulsiveness is not the real me, it's actually just a, a really fast reaction. Now let me actually take a moment to decide how do I want to show up now? And in showing up intentionally, it's like, that's the real you.

• 29:41Lewis Howes?

  What is the emotion that you used to react around the most or hold on to the most?

• 29:46Speaker 01

  When I was probably from seven to 22, I would feel this very light layer of sadness that would sometimes become a bigger amount of sadness. And it was just so persistent. And I think a lot of that was it came from seeing the constant struggle that the house was going through, you know, like it felt like that sometimes we were in a submarine that was in too deep, you know, because like my parents were just, it was a constant, the pain of them having to pay the rent and

• 30:17Lewis Howes?

  Every month.

• 30:18Speaker 01

  Every month and, and they were, you know, my parents are really intelligent. They're very hardworking people, but they were, they were stuck in a poverty trap. You know, they immigrated to this country. They, you know, only knew Spanish at the time. My mom was cleaning houses. My dad was working in a supermarket and they're, they're so, such good people, but it was hard for them and they, you know, how old were they at the time? They were like in their mid 30s, trying to figure all this out. So it's tough.

• 30:44Lewis Howes?

  That's tough.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:45Lewis Howes?

  Where were you guys living? What part of?

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Inner city, Boston.

• 30:49Lewis Howes?

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• 32:16Lewis Howes?

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• 32:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think sometimes there was definitely like long moments of depression where the, you know, sadness becomes more extreme and, and that heaviness is just like the perception is so thick, you know, looking at everything through this sense of negativity.

• 32:55Lewis Howes?

  Now, do you think if your parents, one of them or both of them started making double or triple the amount of money, maybe they're working just as hard, but now they're making a lot more money. Do you think the sadness would go away or the happiness would enter the home more? Because it was less stressful to pay the rent.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  I think it would have decreased the stress, but I think it wouldn't have provided long lasting solutions. I feel like I've, I've had the fortune of like talking to so many different people who have had extreme amounts of success, like where they, you know, have, you know, billions of dollars or millions of dollars and they know that they can't pay for peace. Right? It's like you can like, uh, you know, this, this person once said, you know, your money fixes your money problems, but at the end of the day, that only goes so far because it's not going to fix all of your emotional problems. Like you're not going to spend your way to constant bliss. That just won't exist because the things that you're constantly buying are going to become jaded over time.

• 33:55Lewis Howes?

  So you don't believe you can buy inner peace?

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Not at all. No.

• 33:59Lewis Howes?

  And what happens if you work really hard to make the money to try to buy inner peace? And it doesn't work, then what happens?

• 34:05Speaker 01

  I mean, that's a, that's a rude awakening, I think that a lot of people will go through because that's, that's the materialism that we learned from capitalism where it's like, yeah, there's nothing wrong with you wanting to design a good life for yourself to wanting to be able to pay your bills, to like have a car that works, to have a nice home. That's, there's nothing wrong with that. But the problem is thinking that your peace is happening from an external situation, when in reality your peace is fully defined by your mindset. Are you reacting to what's happening or are you choosing peace instead of chaos?

• 34:39Lewis Howes?

  When you started to make money in your career, did you have inner peace at that time?

• 34:46Speaker 01

  No, but there were definitely moments of joy where, I mean, like one of the best things, I was just talking to my mom the other day and she, you know, we were catching up and I, I'm trying to, you know, explain to her how like, one of my biggest joys is to be able to make sure that she doesn't have money problems anymore. And because of the old conditioning, you know, she doesn't want to be a burden. She doesn't want to like trouble me. And I'm like, mom, I'm like, you don't understand, like I could give you a billion dollars and I would still be in your debt because you gave me life.

• 35:20Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  You know, like that's something that like, I'm always going to be indebted to you. So there's nothing like, I can't give too much to you. That's impossible. And it's a, it's interesting how we're like reformatting our relationship now because I want her to be able to tell me what she needs.

• 35:35Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 35:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:36Lewis Howes?

  Interesting. When did you feel like you got to a place of consistent inner peace? Once you started making money?

• 35:45Speaker 01

  The inner peace wasn't really driven by money, you know, it was, it was driven by, I remember the big, big change with my inner peace was after the first 45 day retreat that I sat.

• 35:56Lewis Howes?

  When was that?

• 35:57Speaker 01

  That was in 2022, I think. And that was a big one. That was like, you know, I really got to see so much of how the mind is structured. I got to really see how much I was hanging on to my sense of self and like in letting that go, there's so much freedom that comes in when you can just like flow through life as opposed to like trying to force your identity to be in a particular way. And I remember after that, there was this coolness that I had that I didn't have before where like, yeah, I'm, I'm not going to have like, I'm not going to be perfectly non reactive all the time, but mother reactions are just not as loud as they used to be.

• 36:39Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  Way, yeah, way cooler.

• 36:41Lewis Howes?

  How much of this inner peace is tied to identity and creating a new identity for yourself?

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think part of it is not in necessarily in creating a new identity, but it's in letting go of identity. It's like, I don't want any labels, man. I don't, I'm not worried about like, I don't need to slap another label on top of me. Like, I don't need to like, you know, be defined by my astrological chart or my, you know, design, like you, there are so many different ways that people label themselves. And I'm not hating on them like you, people can define themselves in whatever way they choose, but for me, I don't find that labels are helpful. I find that after time, it's like, uh, you know, it's a shirt that feels a little too tight.

• 37:24Lewis Howes?

  What about the label of being number one New York Times bestselling author? Is that?

• 37:27Speaker 01

  The agents love that. Yeah.

• 37:30Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. How do you not let the credibility or the accolades?

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:36Lewis Howes?

  Label you, even though it might be considered a great thing to be a number one New York Times bestselling author and selling millions of copies of your books.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:42Lewis Howes?

  But how do you not allow the positive identities to limit your mind?

• 37:48Speaker 01

  My life is very normal until I go to LA, until I go to New York City, until I go to Austin. When I'm in the woods where I live, right in the middle of nowhere in Massachusetts, life is incredibly normal.

• 38:03Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  When I'm sitting at the kitchen table with my parents and my brother and my sister, like they're not praising me where everyone is equal. Everyone, you know, my wife, like she's happy for the, for what I've been able to accomplish with writing, but she doesn't, you know, she's not impressed by that at all. She's impressed by me being able to like, keep the kitchen clean. Like that's what she's really impressed by.

• 38:24Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, or just keep your energy cool and relaxed.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Exactly. So I think who you surround yourself with is like, is really important. And I love, you know, my college friends from Wesleyan, like they're, they're so funny and they don't ask for my advice. They like, they don't care, you know, they're happy for me, but they couldn't be more normal.

• 38:42Lewis Howes?

  But do you ever like, does your mind ever play tricks on you or your ego play tricks on you when, because of a positive label?

• 38:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, the ego, the ego sticky, you know, the ego wants to grab things. So I, I can't deny that at all. It's like, you know, the ego will want to say like, oh, like if that post got 40,000 likes, like why isn't this one getting 40,000 likes or something like that. But now the, the fine tuning of cultivating happiness really helps me see when I'm getting attached to something and attachment is happening when there's tension in the mind. And if I'm feeling my mind tense, doesn't matter what the narrative is or what I'm grabbing onto, I'm asking myself, oh, there's, you know, there's, there's something there I need to let go of.

• 39:24Lewis Howes?

  So when there's tension in the mind?

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:27Lewis Howes?

  That means there is an attachment to something.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 39:30Lewis Howes?

  Is it an expectation? Is it a, what's the attachment usually for?

• 39:34Speaker 01

  That it could be anything. It could be like, you know, um, you know, wanting the night to be like one specific way with my wife versus another way. Or like, you know, wanting like the situation, you know, it's like it's, you're just attaching yourself to dreams that are different from accepting reality as it is in this moment. So when I'm catching myself in these narratives, I'm like, come on, let it go. Come back down to earth. What's happening in this moment? And how can you respond to it properly?

• 40:07Lewis Howes?

  Have you felt any tension get the best of you in the last six months since after this sixty day retreat? Have you felt like you've slipped back into old patterns at all? Maybe you've caught it quicker, but have you found yourself getting agitated or getting frustrated or reacting still?

• 40:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, for sure. I found, um, you know, it's funny. It's like, and I've heard this from like Jack Cornfield and there and there's so many is, you know, the older wisdom teachers and the best testing ground for your wisdom is hanging out with your siblings, hanging out with your mom and dad, you know? And, and then there, there are like times where you feel like, I'm like, whoa, I'm, you know, I remember this triggered really immediately. Or there isn't even a trigger. It's just a predisposition for what's happening. Or, you know, I caught myself, um, running through these narratives in my mind. Um, where like, I'm like fighting with my brother, like it kept coming up when I was in the sixty day retreat.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  And there were times where it's like, I feel this narrative building up and then I have to like, you know, I open my eyes in the retreat and I'm like, dude, your brother hasn't done anything to you. He's actually awesome. He's actually incredible. It's like, let the story go. Like the story is not even real. And it's just fascinating. Yeah. The mind loves tension. The ego loves tension. The ego is literally built off of tension. So it's going to create some more stories to keep fueling that fire.

• 41:30Lewis Howes?

  Yes. I'm curious your thoughts on the difference between meditation and healing? And do you need to heal in order to feel inner peace? Or can you simply meditate and create inner peace?

• 41:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a nice question. Yeah. When I went to into meditating, I went into it for healing. Like I was like, man, I gotta fix this mind. This mind, this mind is not really working out well.

• 41:54Lewis Howes?

  Is it the mind or the heart or the soul that you need to fix?

• 41:57Speaker 01

  All of it is mind. All of it is mind. It's there. There's no sort of division. It's, uh, there's mind in every atom of the body. As you know, Guancha says, uh, the teacher of Vipassana.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  So when you think about it in its totality, there was like tension rippling through this whole thing, these narratives, these patterns. And it was so rigid, this like inner system that I needed to loosen it up in some way and make it lighter. And when I started meditating, I, I felt, man, the first ten day retreat that I sat was terribly difficult. Like it was so hard. I was thinking about leaving all the time. The only reason I didn't leave was because Uber didn't exist. Like, right? I got a ride there and, and I think I, if I had my own car, I would have been out of there. But when the retreat was over, I could tell that undeniably my mind probably felt like ten, fifteen percent lighter than it used to.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  And I was like, damn, that's big. That's a big result. So to me, I like, you know, I had to keep going back because nothing else had changed my mind that much.

• 42:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. When did you feel like you got to a place of wholeness through healing?

• 43:02Speaker 01

  The healing got deeper and deeper and it was around the fifth, between the fifth ten day and then the first time I did a twenty day retreat, which was in twenty seventeen, I felt this big transition where I wasn't just going for healing anymore. I was going for freedom. You know, so like meditating brought me so much healing, but there was like, there's a bigger path here where there's this aspect of the human condition that revolves around dissatisfaction, suffering, stress, tension that I'm not fully grappling with yet and that I need to dig into to be able to like fully let all that go. And, um, and then in the thirty day retreat that I sat, the first one,

• 43:46Speaker 01

  that's when that clarity of like this whole system, this whole thing that is Diego, it's just absolutely effervescent. It's just fluctuations. And it feels like, you know, Lewis and Diego are having a chat right now. It's true. But it's also true that this room is just subatomic particles. Like there's nothing actually here. So like, can you hang on that hard to your identity? Not really.

• 44:13Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  It's extremely temporary.

• 44:15Lewis Howes?

  For someone listening or watching and saying, man, he went to five, ten day, twenty day silent meditation retreats. And then finally, after that much work, he started to feel like he had freedom and peace and healing and things like this. It might sound like a lot of work to some people.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally.

• 44:32Lewis Howes?

  To find that healing that they're looking for.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I think he, my journey is my own, right? Like what you read in my books, it's a reflection of that, that depth. I think if, you know, I, the first few retreats were so life-changing that even if I had stopped there, like the healing would have been so deep. But I kept going back because I knew that there was more work to do. And it was my favorite way to learn. Like, you know, our, our whole Western society is built off of intellectualizing. But if you really want freedom, you need to get really good at feeling. You need to be able to enhance your ability to feel and not react to what you're feeling. And that's, that there's a lot of power in there.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  But I think for other individuals, like I've seen people heal so deeply with therapy. I've seen people heal deeply with journaling, with hiking, with just having basic gratitude practices. Like there's so many ways for you to take steps forward and become a better version for yourself. You don't, like, everybody doesn't need the same tool.

• 45:37Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 45:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:38Lewis Howes?

  When someone has a negative self thought, what is a step they can take to reframe that into making it a more positive experience afterwards?

• 45:48Speaker 01

  That's really smart. I think, um, the, the primary tool that anyone can apply to really start developing a better life is to just slow down.

• 45:58Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  Is just slow down. That, that is what I'm hoping that people get from my new book, Journey, that they're getting from really all of the work that I'm putting out there. Because if you're just moving on automatic, if you're just moving impulsively, it's going to be really easy to get swallowed up by all that negative self-talk. Instead, you can find a moment to just pause. You feel that negativity arising and you're like, does it, is there any truth to that? Why is this even coming up? Is it because I didn't sleep that well last night? Or because I'm still thinking about the argument I had with my partner or whatever it could be. But having a moment to just reflect and just let it go. It's like, dude, why am I getting so caught up in my mind? Let me live life. Let me be in the moment.

• 46:41Lewis Howes?

  With all of the great content you put out there, the messages you get, the emails, when people say hi to you in person, what is the common theme that you constantly see or read or hear on what the main reason people are suffering for in the world right now? Like, why are so many people suffering today in your mind?

• 46:58Speaker 01

  I think that especially when I meet people in person, they tell me their stories. The, the very common one that I see is that a mixture of lack of self-worth, like people just don't see the value in themselves. They don't feel like they're bringing anything into life and that creates this like loop of depression. And, you know, so that mixture of like lack of purpose, lack of intuition and, and people having to like literally pull themselves out of the bed to like start, start living. Uh, because there's so much sadness and there's so much loneliness, or they're still dealing with the, the heartbreak of divorce or, you know, whatever, whatever challenge is there. But it diminishes your idea of your self-worth.

• 47:43Speaker 01

  And what I hear from people is like, you know, this really helped me get out of bed. And that's key. Yeah.

• 47:50Lewis Howes?

  I mean, what do you think is the root cause of why so many people lack self-worth? Or don't know how to value themselves? Why is that happening? There's so many people around the world. And how can someone start to build self-worth?

• 48:02Speaker 01

  I think you need alignment between three things. So you need alignment between your nervous system, your intuition and your values. You gotta be really clear about all the messages that are happening inside of you. Like your nervous system, are you in a type of work that is not feeding you in any way? Are you surrounding yourself with people that are depleting you? And then your values, like what, what values really help you feel like life is incredible? Like what do you really stand for? And really having a good relationship with your intuition. Like, is your intuition, like where is it pointing you?

• 48:42Speaker 01

  And usually your intuition is pointing you somewhere beyond your comfort zone so that you can continue growing. So having a good hearing of that, like being able to hear all of those messages and then living in alignment with that can really be quite life-changing.

• 48:57Lewis Howes?

  I think a lot of people don't know what their values are. And they haven't learned how to listen to their intuition because they've made a bunch of wrong decisions that they thought they're supposed to do. And therefore their nervous system always feels anxious.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  Totally.

• 49:11Lewis Howes?

  So it's like when all three of them are out of alignment.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's easy to, you won't know where you're going.

• 49:16Lewis Howes?

  You're gonna feel stressed. You're gonna make decisions that you don't want to make, that aren't gonna support you. You're gonna date the wrong people. You're gonna take the wrong jobs, whatever. And so I love this, you know, framework of nervous system, intuition and values. And I think if people can learn what those three are, what they want them to be, first, the self-awareness key.

• 49:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:37Lewis Howes?

  Then they can start practicing living into them.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. When you're, when you're living in alignment with your intuition, with your nervous system and your values, then it's going to become clear that you should put your energy into whatever you're already good at. Get better at it and then find how you can use your natural inclination to serve others, to help others. Because you find that some of the happiest people, they have a real good balance between taking good care of themselves and in being serviced to others. So they can live those two things.

• 50:15Lewis Howes?

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• 51:44Lewis Howes?

  Your book that you have out right now is called Journey, The Year That Changes Everything, 365 Daily Reflections to Build Self-Awareness and Inner Peace. What do you think is going to be the biggest thing that holds you back from having a great year moving forward?

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Oh, for me, it's, it's really clear. I mean, I need to be relentless about, you know, and I don't use the word lightly relentless about not getting bogged down in busyness. And we were just talking about this off screen, right? Like, it's so easy to say yes to all these new opportunities and new things. And especially for me, like I, you know, I grew up really poor. So in this moment in my life, having all these new opportunities, I need to be more rigorous about saying no, so that I can create space for my two primary goals, which is like continuing to grow, which is determined by, you know, the hours that I put into meditating and taking good care of my body.

• 52:45Speaker 01

  I feel like I've always had this like interesting relationship with my body where it always came second or third. And now I'm like, no, like I gotta take good care of myself. I want to continue meditating in this body. And the fact that, you know, like I meditate with so many people who are in their seventies and eighties and nineties and like, you know, seeing some of them like get up off the ground and like how hard it is, you know, to like literally like sit down for hours and then get up off the ground. And I'm like, I need to maintain that usefulness and take good care of myself so I can, you know, keep sitting on the ground for decades to come.

• 53:17Lewis Howes?

  So what's your game plan to make sure you take care of your health? Do you have a good practice and a good strategy?

• 53:21Speaker 01

  I've been learning a lot, man. Yeah, I've been, the goal, the goal that I hit this summer that I'm really proud of is I ran 11 miles for the first time in my life.

• 53:28Lewis Howes?

  Well, that's great.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  And it was so fun, you know, so I don't want, I don't want it to just like be work. I want there to be joy in it too.

• 53:34Lewis Howes?

  That's good, man.

• 53:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, beautiful work.

• 53:36Lewis Howes?

  It's the, the four part framework you said, intention, actions, consistency, and letting go. So that consistency, it sounds like is something you gotta continue to do.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's been the whole, that's been the whole game for my whole life, man. I have to be able to pick very few goals and like narrow it down to like, what's the two most important things that I'm trying to get done this year? And really zero in on that. And then that will compound over time and then you pick two other things.

• 54:01Lewis Howes?

  In your book, Journey, it's got 365 daily reflections. What is one message in there that you feel like you need to continue to hear over and over?

• 54:12Speaker 01

  I think, you know, so I structured Journey in a way where it's based not on the year, but it's based on the elements, like the natural elements in the world. So water, earth, air, and fire. And when I look at the four, there are qualities that every human being should try to develop. Like when I think about fire, fire is the energy that you need to accomplish your goals. Air is adaptability. Water is really nourishing yourself and earth is balance. And when I, you know, and there's, there's more qualities that, you know, we go into

• 54:53Speaker 01

  in the book, but when I think about those main ones, like that is the like fundamental of life because life is a painting that you create with your actions and you want to be like intentional about that, you know, that this is a beautiful opportunity that we have. So you might as well like do it right.

• 55:11Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. Life is a painting you create with your actions. Now with your thoughts?

• 55:18Speaker 01

  You know, there, there's very little difference between them. There's a, the intentionality, so it's, it is, starts with an intention and that gets shaped into the thought.

• 55:28Lewis Howes?

  Yeah. And I guess if you're not painting beautiful thoughts, then you're probably not going to paint beautiful actions as well.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Totally, totally. Yeah. When you think about like, you know, what is driving an action, it's an intention that comes before it. You could think of it as thought.

• 55:42Lewis Howes?

  First thing you do when you wake up in the morning, do you set an intention? What do you do?

• 55:46Speaker 01

  First thing, I mean, these days, man, I'm wake up, drink a lot of water and then I sit down to meditate. So like before I came here to chat with you, I meditated for an hour after this, will meditate an hour this evening at some point.

• 55:58Lewis Howes?

  Usually do an hour in the morning and an hour at night usually. You don't do two back to back?

• 56:03Speaker 01

  You gotta brush your teeth in the morning, brush your teeth in the evening. You gotta clean, you gotta clean the mind.

• 56:07Lewis Howes?

  Which meditation is usually more powerful for your morning or evening?

• 56:11Speaker 01

  You know, either one where I'm just like more accepting of whatever arises. So that's the challenge with meditating is like, you don't need to like get rid of all the thoughts. You don't need to like try to force yourself to be blissful or anything like that. It's just a practice and acceptance. And when I can accept if there's some tension there, when I can accept that there's even tiredness there, whatever it could be, in that acceptance, there is a depth that opens up.

• 56:40Lewis Howes?

  Couple of final questions for you. This has been powerful, Diego, I appreciate it. I want people to get the book, Journey, The Year That Changes Everything, 365 Daily Reflections to Build Self-Awareness and Inner Peace. You've also got some other great books, so people can check those out on your website, youngpueblo.com, or they can go to youngpueblo.com/journey to, to get that book. And also Instagram is a big place for you and Substack. Are you, are you on Substack a lot now?

• 57:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, I love Substack.

• 57:06Lewis Howes?

  You're big in there.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:07Lewis Howes?

  You're big in there. I gotta get on there still. I'm like dabbling, but I'm not all in yet.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  You know why I like Substack? Because the internet is so based on the first few seconds of like, oh, can I get someone's attention? Substack is not like that. Substack, like if someone's signing up to your Substack, they're already willing to give you five, six minutes of their time. So I'll write essays that are like 500 words, 600 words. So it almost feels like a practice in slowing down. Like let's take a moment to like do some real reflection and then kick off the day.

• 57:39Lewis Howes?

  Wow, it's pretty exciting. Yung Pueblo everywhere, online, especially Substack. How often are you posting on Substack then?

• 57:45Speaker 01

  Just once a week.

• 57:46Lewis Howes?

  Once a week.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:48Lewis Howes?

  Daily on Instagram, check it out. Couple of final questions before I ask them, I want to acknowledge you, Diego, for constantly showing us how to have more inner peace. And the fact that you meditate two hours a day is amazing to me. I have my own meditation practice, but it's not as consistent and it's not as long, but it's inspiring to see what's possible and how we can change our minds and change, hopefully, how we view ourselves and having more peace around ourselves and healing when we decide to slow down and focus on these three core things, our values, our nervous system, and what was the third thing?

• 58:22Speaker 01

  And our intuition.

• 58:23Lewis Howes?

  And our intuition. And I, and I know that when I slow down, I'm allowing myself to have more calm.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:30Lewis Howes?

  And get realigned to those things. So I want to acknowledge you for constantly showing us the way and inspiring us with your wisdom, man. It's, it's really special.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 58:41Lewis Howes?

  I've asked you this before, but it's called the three truths. Imagine you get to live as long as you want to live, but it's your last day on earth. And for whatever reason, you have to take all of your work with you. So we don't have access to your books, your content, this interview, it's gone.

• 58:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:54Lewis Howes?

  Hypothetical. You live as long as you want. And on that final day, you've done, you know, years of meditation at this point, you've created everything, you've created the reality you want. You only get to leave behind three lessons to the world, three final truths. What would those be for you?

• 59:11Speaker 01

  That's such a good question. The primary lesson is everything that arises ultimately passes away. That is the fundamental core truth that will open up your access to peace. If you don't understand impermanence and you don't understand that things will exist, last for some time and then pass away, then life is going to be very hard for you. The next truth is that your intuition is not something that is going to be telling you like, you know, take a left, take a right. It's going to intentionally try to open up new chapters in your life.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  And usually that means that it will open up a chapter that is pushing you outside of your comfort zone so that you can grow. And I think the third thing is that you have to be really intentional about surrounding yourself with people who have the qualities that you yourself are trying to develop. And that's why I like to, you know, surround myself with people who are just wiser than I am, because so I can learn from them.

• 1:00:21Lewis Howes?

  That's beautiful, man. And final question, what's your definition of greatness?

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  I think my definition of greatness is being the type of person that doesn't want more of anything. You're just trying to serve.

• 1:00:33Lewis Howes?

  Man.

• 1:00:36Lewis Howes?

  That's the ultimate.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Lewis Howes?

  You don't want more of anything, but you just want to serve.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  You just want to serve, you're just trying to help.

• 1:00:41Lewis Howes?

  Diego, appreciate it, man.

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 1:00:43Lewis Howes?

  I'm bringing you, brother.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:44Lewis Howes?

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