464 - Dear Movies, I Love You

This week, Karen and Georgia are thrilled to sit down with the hosts of Exactly Right’s newest film podcast Dear Movies, I Love You. Hosts Millie De Chirico and Casey O'Brien discuss the movies that made them, film recommendations for budding cinephiles and more.

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

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• 1:22Georgia Hardstark?

  Hello.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  And welcome.

• 1:24Georgia Hardstark?

  To My Favorite Murder.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  That is Georgia Hartschek.

• 1:26Georgia Hardstark?

  And that is Karen Kilgariff.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  And today, we are so thrilled to be talking to two people you might already know. She is a film programmer and historian. He's a filmmaker.

• 1:37Georgia Hardstark?

  And they just ended a critically acclaimed four-year run on the podcast, I Saw What You Did.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  And now, they're back with a new show that premieres Tuesday, January 28th, on the Exactly Right Network.

• 1:48Georgia Hardstark?

  It's called Dear Movies, I Love You. Please welcome Millie DeCherico and Casey O'Brien.

• 1:55Speaker 03

  Hey. Hello.

• 1:57Georgia Hardstark?

  Hi.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Guys, could you tell we were reading off a teleprompter?

• 2:01Speaker 03

  Oh, it felt really good, though.

• 2:03Georgia Hardstark?

  Pros, we're just pros at this.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  How would you guys synopsize what you're doing on your podcast? Or like what the, you know, what's your elevator pitch of the podcast?

• 2:16Georgia Hardstark?

  It's the vibe.

• 2:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, you know, it's, uh, the name of the podcast is Dear Movies, I Love You. So it is kind of, you know, we say it's a, you know, having a crush on movies. It's an infatuation with movies. It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture. And we just want it to be accessible to people because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about like art house bullshit, but we like, but we want to talk about it in a way that's like fun. And we also, we like highbrow, we like really lowbrow too. And so we want it to be like an inviting, fun, cute podcast.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, Millie, anything to add to that?

• 2:56Speaker 04

  Well, you know, I think I'm gonna get deep, perhaps a little deeper than Casey's just real. I personally, when I was, I'm kidding. You're not the himbo of the podcast, by the way, you're fine. You're gonna film himbo as, as, uh, as I've heard in the past. I really, I think over the past couple of years, especially during COVID, especially during, I don't know, just like living and life and bad news and, you know, things happening in the world. I started really thinking about like my relationship to movies because, you know, as a person who like lives alone and, um, you know, a lot of, and has worked in movies for over 20 years.

• 3:39Speaker 04

  I started thinking about like, what, like, do I have an emotional relationship with movies? Like, of course they're entertaining, of course it's my job, of course it's an intellectual pursuit, I guess. But what's like my emotional relationship to it? Like, do they do things for me? Are they my, or comfort? Are they my partner for crying out loud? I mean, honestly. And I started thinking about it in that way where I was like, I don't know, like, I think they are, like, it's The one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been like my refuge from all the bullshit, right? And there's some kind of, I don't know, I have this like, you know, deep feeling of appreciation

• 4:20Speaker 04

  for like what the art form, I guess, if you want to call it that, has done for my life in that emotional kind of way. And so that's why I think when we were like, how, what's the vibe? You know, I was like, I don't know, we just love movies. We're like in love with movies. We, we like have crushes on movies. And Casey like immediately was like, of course, like, I get it, you know? And so I don't know, I think that that's sort of, I think what the podcast is also about is it's about sort of like being in love with this wacky world that we're in and, you know, just sort of, I don't know, like being very earnest and sincere about it, so.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I think there's a lot of like judgment about like what movies you like or like what movies affect you the most. Like, it's very easy to be like, oh, that's a, you know, people will throw, you know, I said this even earlier where I was like, this is a stupid movie, like I Can't Hardly Wait or 10 Things I Hate About You, but those make me feel a certain way and that is meaningful to me. And so I think our movie one, our, our podcast wants to kind of, you know, write, hold up all types of films and make them, you know, celebrate them equally. And they, they're meaningful equally.

• 5:40Speaker 03

  It's, it's more about like how these movies make us feel rather than, you know, the, the intellectual value that something has, if that makes sense.

• 5:51Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. And what I love about that too is, I mean, it kind of reminds me of our podcast and even though true crime has nothing to do with what you guys are doing, but it's finding your people too, who can talk about this one movie for hours, even if they don't like it with you. And, you know, yeah, like the two of you found each other and then your audience and your listeners are going to be like, absolutely, or no, you're wrong, but you're still connecting in a way that's hard to do these days. It feels like everyone's just kind of having these. You know, superficial connections, but if you have this like interest that you're so passionate about, you can really connect with people.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel like, and you know, listeners, when you listen to episode one, like there, you'll get that kind of, that party, it's like movie party vibe where like the first time I listened to it, just your guys' chit chat, where each topic and each movie and each thing that came up, it was like all in, like, super interest, super passion, and, but then also just like these different takes where it's like, you know, waxing poetic about the Magic Mike trilogy, where it's like, I never thought about that before, that's really true. Like, just that kind of thing where it was like, you can be, you can be deep and analytical, kind of about anything you want, as long as you like it enough. And

• 7:13Speaker 01

  it felt like that, you know?

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Well, thank you.

• 7:15Speaker 04

  Yeah. There's also like an episode that we have coming up that I really love because it, we're talking about a movie that Casey is extremely passionate about, and is like a movie, like, basically that his, the movie that radicalized him, that made him a film person, quote unquote. And it was, we, and it was a movie that I had a very different opinion on, and we talk all that out in a way that I think is really cool, like, just because there was something that he loves and connects with that didn't really get me in the same way. I was so like, interested in just hearing him talk about it, and hearing

• 7:57Speaker 04

  his relationship with it, and sort of like what he liked about it. And I don't know, I mean, I feel like that is something that, that our podcast is doing and will do really well, is just having that mutual respect for each other's taste. I mean, honestly, like, and that's something that I think is a thing that makes film people so annoying or intimidating, is that you have, like, like I said, like, the wrong taste, you have bad taste, you don't like the right things. And I don't really see it that way, ever. I don't ever see people having that, like, I don't, I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than...

• 8:41Speaker 04

  Just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like. Do you know what I mean?

• 8:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So you guys on your podcast usually start by telling each other the movies that you've watched recently. What movies have you watched recently?

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Millie, you go first.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  Oh, God, I gotta pull out my phone.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Letterboxd.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  Uh oh, she's gonna go. She has to be legit.

• 9:01Speaker 04

  I got to be legit.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Did you watch a movie today?

• 9:04Speaker 04

  I watched a movie last night in the past. So it's been the past 24 hours. I watched this movie called Better Man. Have you heard of this movie?

• 9:14Speaker 03

  Is this the Robbie Williams movie?

• 9:15Speaker 04

  It is the Robbie Williams animatronic monkey. Yes. Actually, it's not animatronic. It's like weird CGI, right?

• 9:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:25Speaker 04

  That movie to me was so much better than it had any right to be. I don't know why. I was like expecting to go with it being like, this is gonna be one of the most genuinely bizarre, like weird outsider art things of our generation. And I was like, it's actually kind of good, like legit good.

• 9:46Speaker 01

  Wow. Yeah. Good for Robbie.

• 9:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  I mean, he was a superstar.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, that's, that's what I think is so fascinating about it, to be honest, because I'm like, okay, they let this movie happen, like now, where it's like, here's a star who, who was essentially not as famous here in America as he was, you know, in Europe, who hasn't really been around for like 20 years. And he's a monkey. And it's like, I'm like, and it's his life story. I was like, wow, I can't believe that they let that happen. I was actually really impressed that that happened. So anyway.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in America. And then like this movie came out and it was like, this movie is bombing in America. And it's like, we don't know who he is. Why did we go see this movie?

• 10:33Georgia Hardstark?

  Right.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  You've never seen this monkey. We don't, we can't support this monkey. We don't know him.

• 10:39Georgia Hardstark?

  Casey, what did you watch recently?

• 10:40Speaker 03

  Okay, so I watched this movie called, and I was really weeping during this movie. Truly Madly Deeply. Have you ever seen this movie?

• 10:49Speaker 01

  It's like my favorite movie of all time.

• 10:51Speaker 03

  Oh, it is?

• 10:52Georgia Hardstark?

  What?

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 10:53Speaker 03

  I had never, I had like seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night and it's so beautiful and touching. It came out in like 1990. It's with Alan Rickman and.

• 11:04Georgia Hardstark?

  Yes, you've told me about it.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, Juliette Stevenson.

• 11:07Speaker 03

  Juliette Stevenson and basically the premise is, uh, her boyfriend, Alan Rickman, dies, is dead. This is, this is not a spoiler. This happened, this is the beginning of the movie. But he comes back as a ghost and it's, it's so romantic and sweet and silly. And I was like, this is like one of my new favorite movies of all time. I'm not even kidding. It was, it was amazing.

• 11:31Georgia Hardstark?

  I'm literally writing it down right now.

• 11:32Speaker 01

  Well, also because it's so heavy, like they do, they don't try to clean anything up. It's not the American version of if a girl's boyfriend died that she lived with and obviously is her life partner. It is like, there's a scene, I think it begins with a scene where she's at the therapist.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Sobbing and trying to explain how isolated she feels because he's gone and she's walking around and all these people are living life and whatever, and she's ugly crying to a degree where it is like, I was like, who is this woman?

• 12:05Speaker 03

  Yes, she's incredible.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  She's such a good actress.

• 12:08Georgia Hardstark?

  It's like showing grief the way it really is, which is so hard for anyone to like do if you don't understand.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  And the end, total no spoiler, but also be careful because of me, because I don't, I don't keep my promises, but.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  Essentially, the reveal, should I not say the reveal?

• 12:26Georgia Hardstark?

  Don't say the reveal. I don't want to know.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. Because that reveal, when I first watched it, and same Casey, where it was me, my friend Dave Messmer, who we worked at The Gap together, and his friend, and she's the one that was like, we have to watch this movie. And all three of us were sobbing at the end, like, together sobbing. It was crazy, and it was just one of those weird, like, it's just a perfect 90s, like, real life, I don't know.

• 12:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, I was, immediately when the movie started, and it's like, happy tears. I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer. It's a happy movie, I think.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  Okay. It's beautiful.

• 13:04Speaker 03

  It's really beautiful, and I really, I truly madly deeply loved it.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  And who's the director? Do you remember offhand?

• 13:12Speaker 03

  Yes, it's Anthony Mangella, who did The English Patient and The Talented Mr. Ripley. It was his first movie.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  Wow, it's his first movie.

• 13:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  I'm saying, how did I miss that, as if I haven't missed every single fucking movie that has come out in the past? You're not movie people, which I think is, like, this would be a perfect podcast for you, because it's, I think, Casey and Millie kind of pulling people into the movie world, like, it's gonna be okay, we're with you.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Come in.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  You know what I am? I'm a, I find a movie I like, and I watch it 40 times. And there's no other, and I don't watch any other movies. It's not like, I love this director, I'm gonna watch all their movies. I don't do that.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  I do that, too. I do that, too.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:52Speaker 03

  There's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast, there's no shame.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:58Speaker 04

  We are cringe, but we are free. We say that all the time.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  We are cringe, but we're free, exactly.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Can you guys give, individually, or together as a, as a team, like, three movies that you would recommend to people who love movies but are intimidated by, by coming into, like, a cinem, a cinematographic world? Is that the right word? Like, coming into the world of film people?

• 14:22Georgia Hardstark?

  That's not so deep, and like, you have to understand the meaning of, but it'll get you to those other movies that then you, then you can appreciate because you, you know what I mean?

• 14:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 14:31Georgia Hardstark?

  Like, what do they call them? Like, um...

• 14:33Speaker 03

  Gateway.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Gateway.

• 14:34Speaker 04

  Gateway drugs.

• 14:36Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, um, well, I guess I have a question. How do you feel about subtitles? Because for some people, that's a big hurdle.

• 14:44Georgia Hardstark?

  I, I don't mind it.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 14:45Georgia Hardstark?

  I think the gateway part, though, for like the masses, there shouldn't be, though. Maybe one out of three, right?

• 14:52Speaker 03

  One out of three, okay.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  Whatever's needed.

• 14:54Speaker 03

  Uh, Millie, do you have, did any come to mind immediately?

• 14:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm thinking on it. Well, this might be actually interesting exercise because Casey and I are, uh, I'm a little older than Casey, and I feel like this might be like, this is gonna be showing our generational roots, perhaps. Do you know what I'm saying?

• 15:16Georgia Hardstark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:17Speaker 04

  Uh, because I think about like, what kind of got me into cinephilia, if you will? Like, what was the movie that was the, the bridge between like, I don't know, um, Sixteen Candles and, I don't know, uh, Three Colors Red or something? I'm trying to think of something. I mean, I think for me...

• 15:44Speaker 03

  She's speaking in kind of film gibberish.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Language right now, so.

• 15:48Speaker 04

  Thank you for translating.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  That, don't worry, everybody.

• 15:51Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, to me, I think when I first kind of was like in high school and in college and I was kind of making that jump, I mean, honestly, I think it was a lot of the American independence stuff from the 90s. So like, I'm thinking of things like, you know, Jim Jarmusch, uh, Stranger Than Paradise or Down by Law, or, um, you know, Alison Anders', um, Gas Food Lodging, you know, this kind of stuff that was sort of like in the kind of indie cinema stuff in the 90s. That's when I was kind of like, oh, yeah, there was like, you know, SNL comedies, and then there's this, right? And so that's kind of how I started kind of getting into like more of a kind of cinema world, right?

• 16:36Speaker 04

  Um, but then I also think too, stuff like Stanley Kubrick's, like The Shining, that those types of movies that are kind of like horror, but then kind of what they would call maybe like elevated horror now, which drives me crazy, but you know, in a way, it's like, here's a horror movie, which is kind of traditionally a genre that brings in a lot of like young people. It's kind of broad audience stuff, but then like... It's a little bit more stylish and is a little bit more open ended in terms of themes. So maybe something like that, like The Shining. And then for a third, I mean, I gotta say, I mean, again, this is sort of like, maybe for a little people who are a little bit younger, but like those like early Wes Anderson movies like Bottle

• 17:19Speaker 04

  Rocket or like, I mean, Rushmore was kind of my favorite out of that stuff. But you know, even like World Ten Moms, I feel like that kind of stuff would take, would basically set you up in terms of, okay, so here's like an autourist director who has, who's building a sort of cinema language for his work, you know what I mean? And that's kind of, I don't know, maybe if you're kind of getting into that kind of stuff, that would be like a good entry point.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  That's perfect.

• 17:48Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Actually, my niece Sophie texted me because she went and saw The Shining at the theater. And she was like, hey, I just saw The Shining, you've seen that, right? And I was just like, this is so weird, of course. I was like, yes, of course. She's like, it was so good, it was crazy. And I'm like, yeah, it was like the cutest kind of discovery moment that she wanted, she brought to me because she was like, I feel like you're the kind of person that would appreciate that movie. And I'm like, yes, I do. I really do. Yeah.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  I would say, I think that's right on. I think there are some like gateway directors that are like, kind of like how, you know, cinephiles sort of like found their way into movies. For my age, you know, Millie mentioned, I'm very young, that, so like, I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of follow his career because he did like Boogie Nights, which is an art house film, I would say, but also like a major studio film. But then, you know, he did like There Will Be Blood a few years later, which is a lot,

• 19:04Speaker 03

  I would say darker and weirder. And that was like nominated for like Best Picture and stuff, but it kind of is a good Way to like get into um more of the like highbrow, you know, cinephile movies.

• 19:21Speaker 03

  And then, so that's like more on the easier end. And I would say like, you know, we're recording this today. One of the great film directors died.

• 19:31Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 19:31Speaker 03

  David Lynch, my favorite director. And uh, he's like a great. That he's kind of, you have to, if you want to get into film, you have to see some of his movies. And I would say the entry point for that, for him would be Blue Velvet, I would say. It's a weird, it feels weird. It feels like this is like no other movie I've ever seen, but the plot makes sense and you can understand why things are happening where that cannot be said for most of his other movies. So that's like a good, if you want to get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue Velvet.

• 20:09Georgia Hardstark?

  You know, I think that's so true. That's why Mulholland Drive is one of my favorite movies of all time is because the first time I watched it, I was like, there's no plot. I don't get it.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  Totally.

• 20:18Georgia Hardstark?

  Like there's, you know, it's just a movie. There's no plot. And then I watched it again and I was like, holy fuck, like the way it blew my mind that when I could finally follow the plot, blew it so hard that nothing has ever lived up to that again.

• 20:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I totally agree because we, we did that uh, movie for like one of the last episodes of I Saw What You Did. And I had seen it like maybe twice in the past, once when it came out, which I was totally with you, Georgia, like, was like, I don't know what's going on. Whatever. It's a vibe, I guess.

• 20:47Georgia Hardstark?

  It's a vibe, yeah.

• 20:49Speaker 04

  But I don't know anything. Um, and then the second time I watched it, I was, you know, like maybe sort of getting into it a little bit more. But then when we, we watched it for the episode, I had this like revelation and I was like, I know everything about this movie. And I wanted like, I told Danielle, I was like, we're gonna have to really watch the clock because I could talk about this movie for like four or five hours. I have so much to say.

• 21:14Georgia Hardstark?

  It's like everything clicks together all of a sudden.

• 21:19Georgia Hardstark?

  I love it.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  When I saw that movie. My friend Danny and I hated it so much that like five days later, we were at a barbecue together and a guy we did not know happened to nearby us say that he liked that movie. And we harangued him until he left the party. Cause we were like, what are you talking about? Which is of course, our very, their very nineties personality, which was lauded back then. When you were just like overtly hostile for no reason to every single person. But it was this thing of like, I don't know what you're talking about. But it's like, of course, that's what David Lynch is trying to get you to do. He's like, do you like this or do you absolutely hate it? Okay, here's a little more.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Like, I just think that part of it is making people who maybe wouldn't even think to do it, suddenly talk about movies, know what they like about movies, like know that their opinion counts about movies. It's cool.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, totally.

• 22:17Speaker 01

  We're RIP to a great one.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:20Georgia Hardstark?

  It's, it spumbs me out, not as a huge movie person, but just like having a weirdo in the world is like really comforting. You know, like Paul Rubens kind of a thing where it's like, it's comforting to know there are people out there doing whatever the fuck they want to do.

• 22:33Speaker 03

  Well, I think David Lynch is special as an artist outside of like the movies he made, because his whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art. That was like his big message. And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of like project, you're like, you need to die for this, you need to starve yourself, you know? And I feel like David Lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it's better to be a happy person making art. And you can still make art about dark things and God knows he did. But it's like, you still need to like, take care of yourself. And I think that's a good message.

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• 26:37Speaker 01

  Millie, did you say what your movie most recent was?

• 26:39Speaker 04

  Yeah. Better Man.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Oh, so sorry. I got so excited about Truly Madly Deep because it's like, it's literally like I made that movie. Nobody knows that movie ever. And like, I'm always telling people, you gotta watch it.

• 26:51Speaker 03

  I was shocked. I looked on Letterboxd and like, no one I follow has watched it. And I was surprised because I was like, this, it's just, it's an incredible film.

• 27:00Speaker 04

  You, Casey, you have, like, in the past, have done this very similar thing where you have pulled out like this unknown rom com and have become like its number one fan. I think that's lovely about you.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 27:14Speaker 04

  I was like, oh, this is like fucking weird rom com that no one's seen in like 30 years. Casey, five stars on Letterboxd. Now, nobody else I know has seen it, and then I'm compelled to go watch it, so.

• 27:25Speaker 03

  I'm a lover, I'm a feeler, and I love digging up these, these rom coms no one's watching.

• 27:31Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 27:31Georgia Hardstark?

  Casey, are you so excited to finally get some fucking attention in this podcasting world?

• 27:36Speaker 01

  No, no longer a producer.

• 27:39Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, you've been behind the scenes.

• 27:39Speaker 03

  Oh my god, finally, yes, I get to emerge from behind the, I don't know.

• 27:45Georgia Hardstark?

  It's the sweet spot.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I'm thrilled. I mean, it was such an honor that Millie, you know, reached her hand down into the gutter and pulled me out of it and, uh,

• 27:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're like Pennywise down there.

• 27:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, like Pennywise, yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  How did you guys, like, come to that idea that you?

• 28:04Georgia Hardstark?

  Like, this is a movie podcast. Like, what was the thinking behind all of that?

• 28:08Speaker 03

  Well, like, I saw what you did was ending, and Millie wanted to do another show, and I was kinda like, well, I was like, "Please let me produce it." So that was sort of the impetus, just, you know, Millie making a new movie show.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, we joked about this, uh, we joked about this in the pilot episode, actually. I don't know if I should say it, but, um, that I was like, basically like Bradley Cooper in A Star is Born, and I like found Casey, the Lady Gaga character, like, doing a little burlesque in a shitty bar, and I was like, "Come in my limo, I'm gonna make a star movie." No, I was like, here's the thing about Casey, like, I have heard him on other podcasts before, and he's so charismatic, so funny, knows a lot about movies, like, has, well, like, you know, when you ha- when you hear people or you meet people that have, like, you know, you have, like, similar opinions about things, and it's like, yes, they get, they would get me.

• 29:08Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:09Speaker 04

  Very crucial for me. I just have to say, by personality, I need to be understood. That is like my lot in life. And so I was like, oh, here's somebody who I think we align on a lot of similar stuff. And we're not like the types to like the same things. That's what I'm saying, which I love. I love that we don't like the same things, necessarily. But our reasons for liking and hating things are the same, if that makes sense.

• 29:35Georgia Hardstark?

  You respect that the other person's wrong, essentially.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Or like, the reason why you don't like something is the reason why I wouldn't like something.

• 29:43Georgia Hardstark?

  Right, right.

• 29:43Speaker 04

  You know, even though those two things would probably are different, I guess.

• 29:46Georgia Hardstark?

  Totally.

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:48Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  But I would hear him on these other podcasts, and yeah, I mean, it was just like, well, I wanna do a show with him. Does he wanna do a show with me, is the big question.

• 29:56Georgia Hardstark?

  The eternal question, totally.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, it was just so funny, Millie. I feel like, up until recently, you're like, just checking in, you wanna do this show with me, right? And, um... No, I mean, I feel like Millie and I always like, I, we always connected really well, and I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep making podcasts. So that was sort of the, like, the beginning of the show.

• 30:21Georgia Hardstark?

  We want to get a sense of, through the movie, we're just trying to do the movie thing along with you. We want to get a sense of who you are as people. What do you get when you go to the movie theater? What is your snack combination?

• 30:33Speaker 03

  This is a great question. And actually, I feel like a lot of our show is like about the, like, movie watching ritual, too, like what we do when we watch movies. I always get popcorn, and I always try to get a cherry Coke. Those are kind of my go-to. It's hard for me to incorporate candy into it, because if I need the, I need the pop, and then I need, but the candy in the pop is just too much sweetness. So I don't know. That's, popcorn and cherry Coke is my go-to.

• 31:05Georgia Hardstark?

  That's lovely.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  That's nice.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  The popcorn thing is absolute, like, I, movie theater popcorn always gives me a stomach ache, but I don't care.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 31:13Speaker 04

  It's like the problem. I was just like, I don't care if I'm on the toilet for like, three days after this. I have to, I have to eat it. Like, I don't know what it is.

• 31:20Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  And then I'm with you, Casey, like, what I started, I was always, for a very long time, the peanut M&M's on top of the popcorn.

• 31:28Georgia Hardstark?

  Yes, a hundred percent.

• 31:30Speaker 04

  Which I used to call like, trail mix. It's like, this is healthy, right? But then lately, I've been, because I, yeah, I don't want to get the soda if you're getting candy. So I switch, and now it's either that I get the popcorn and a Coke Icy.

• 31:50Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 31:50Speaker 04

  You know? Which is the only time I ever drink full flavor Coke. I usually do not drink, I usually do like diet or Coke Zero or, you know?

• 32:01Georgia Hardstark?

  But in an Icy, it's the most delicious thing of all time.

• 32:04Speaker 04

  I have to.

• 32:05Georgia Hardstark?

  So good.

• 32:05Speaker 04

  So it's either that, and then I alternate with the peanut M&M's, but always popcorn, so.

• 32:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Can I ask you guys a question? You guys are all moviegoers. I don't go to the theater. And I, and I've always wondered this. Are you supposed to finish your snacks before the movie starts? That always blew my mind, where it's like, you have to save it, and you're supposed to eat it before, right?

• 32:27Speaker 04

  I can't help myself sometimes.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  You mean like in the 15 minutes of trailers and stuff?

• 32:32Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. And then everyone stops eating at the when the movie starts. So I feel self conscious chewing loudly when the

• 32:39Speaker 03

  Wait, so you feel self conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the the food?

• 32:45Georgia Hardstark?

  It seems like everyone else has art finishes their I don't know if it was like a rule that I just didn't fucking know.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  I don't. I've never finished my snacks before. I mean, not to say it's like, it's not like I've haven't put in a put a series dent in. But to me, part of the joy of like the big bucket of popcorn and watching a movie is like this zone out and just insane, just like

• 33:09Georgia Hardstark?

  Okay.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  Just shoveling it into your face in the dark. That's the fun of it.

• 33:13Georgia Hardstark?

  Okay, that's good to know.

• 33:15Speaker 04

  I a lot of times I do. I don't know if it's to completion, but I I'm like 75% there.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  Me too. That's exactly what I was gonna say. I'm 75% there. You know, I'm peeking at the right when the movie starts and then I can pick my spots when I

• 33:36Speaker 04

  It's not out of respect, though. It's out of just me being gross. And I'm like, I'm starving.

• 33:41Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 33:42Speaker 04

  And then sometimes I do a thing where I will, you know, go to that 75% and then save the 25 and then we'll dip in like an hour into the milk.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  Into the film.

• 33:54Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:54Speaker 04

  So I'll just like pick it back up again.

• 33:56Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like, I remember I had this. But um, yeah, I I I'm housing that shit like I'm like

• 34:03Georgia Hardstark?

  Hell, yeah. Okay, that's good to know. Honestly, I'm like, they're worried.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Don't worry about those other people. I have a follow up to that question, which is, who's the most famous person you've ever seen at the concession stand at the Arc Light here in Los Angeles?

• 34:16Speaker 04

  Oh, shit.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 34:20Speaker 04

  Danielle and I saw somebody that was on Seinfeld, not as a main character, but some recurring. And now I can't remember who it was. Was it like a Patrick Warburton or something like that? But we

• 34:36Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it was

• 34:37Georgia Hardstark?

  The guy with the white hair?

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was definitely some. Beloved side character from Seinfeld we saw at the

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 34:45Speaker 04

  At the ArcLight.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  The ArcLight was a good place to spot celebrities, I feel like. Or like

• 34:50Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Known people. Uh, I don't know why this guy popped into my head, but I was seeing Nope at the ArcLight. I think it was Nope, or it was Us, one of the Jordan Peele movies. And Tom Morello was getting popcorn. Of Rage Against the Machine.

• 35:05Speaker 04

  Oh, that's good.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:07Speaker 03

  Popcorn.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  That is a good one.

• 35:09Speaker 04

  I was always so jealous whenever I would hear the stories of Keanu Reeves going to the ArcLight.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:15Speaker 04

  And I was like, when does he go? And how come I'm not there at the same?

• 35:20Speaker 01

  Saw him at the Beverly Center. You gotta go to the mall, too. I know.

• 35:24Speaker 03

  Beverly Center.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  I mean, the only reason I wrote that question in was because I saw Colin Farrell at the ArcLight concession stand. So I reverse engineered that entire thing simply to be able to tell that story again.

• 35:37Speaker 03

  Oh, man, we're Farrell for Farrell.

• 35:39Speaker 04

  We are. We're a pro Farrell podcast. We know this.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  How could you be anti? I, I challenge you, but I swear to God, I felt him coming from like 500 paces. I was just like, what's this? There's electricity in the air down here in the lower concession area? And then I looked over, there he was, glasses, headband, weird workout clothes. He absolutely was like, the aura was like 20 feet in front of him. He knew it. We all knew it. It was amazing.

• 36:11Speaker 04

  It's like an angel.

• 36:12Speaker 01

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  You guys do have a favorite movie theater moment now that we're talking about them? Besides finishing all the amazing food?

• 39:50Speaker 01

  What radicalized you in the movie theater?

• 39:53Speaker 03

  Millie had a kind of a crazy one recently. This isn't a good memory, but this is something bad that happened where someone was during a.

• 40:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, a fire, a little firecracker during Furiosa.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  Yes, it was insane.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  Did you do it?

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Oh, no, I wish. No, it was, it was an hour into Furiosa.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Oh, shit.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  All I know is that it was packed. It was like the Thursday that it came out. So it was like no empty seat. And then all of a sudden you would see, you saw this like fireball sail through the air.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  Jesus.

• 40:31Speaker 04

  Landed in like the first like five rows of seats and then everybody just jumped up.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:38Speaker 04

  And every like the whole theater, it was like, we were in this like frozen moment of, we were like waiting for an explosion or something. It was like really hard. So everybody was like, stood up and like kind of moving towards the emergency exits, but nobody was, we were kind of like frozen, waiting to see like what would happen with the fire. Like either it was gonna. Just fizzle out, explode. Somebody was gonna like get burned. We were just waiting for something to happen. And then by the, by the time anything was supposed to happen, the fire alarm got pulled and every, they were like clearing people out. So we had to leave.

• 41:17Georgia Hardstark?

  Anyway. That's, you can't do that, these fucking, that's an 80s trick.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  And this movie theater, I'm gonna, I'm gonna call this movie theater out in Atlanta, chronically, there's always teenage antics at this place. And if you, every time, because this is not the first time I, there's been some malarkey here. And like, this is the problem with the movies is that it's not just teenagers running, you know, scams, but it's like the teenagers run the place. So they're in cahoots. And so nothing gets done. There's no policy that gets enacted because of this. And so every time something has happened in this movie theater, including the fireworks saga,

• 42:03Speaker 04

  I have asked one of my friends that has kids, I was like, is it a school holiday? And they were like, yes. And I'm like, so the messaging is that on a school holiday, the kids go to the movie theater and cause trouble. So now I stay away.

• 42:20Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:21Georgia Hardstark?

  They're like, that's their way to party. This is what I think every movie is like. That's why I don't.

• 42:26Georgia Hardstark?

  It's always firecrackers.

• 42:29Georgia Hardstark?

  Especially that movie is, it's already so tense and so much going on.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it was like, we had to get, we got a pass to come back to see the last hour of it. Like an hour into it. It was so annoying. But um, I don't know, Casey, what about you? Do you have any?

• 42:48Speaker 03

  Memorable film or movie theater experience? Well, I mean, I kind of talked about this on one of our episodes, the, where I had to like yell at those old people because they were in my seat. I've had a lot of issues with people sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat. I don't know how you both feel about the reserved seats in the movie theaters, but I like it. I like having a reserved seat for myself. And my wife and I were in the theater. It was like a sold out theater. We were seeing The Big Short. And we got there right when the movie started. And there were these. Uh, I go to the, the, this is at the Arc Light and I go to like the guy working and I'm like, "Where are our seats? I can't even see, it's so dark." And he's like,

• 43:30Speaker 03

  "They're up there, but I can see that there's a guy sitting in your seats. You're gonna have to ask him to move." And I'm like, "Oh God." So, basically, it was this elderly couple and they're, imagine there are four seats and they own, they own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle and we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle two.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  But, no, you can't do that. I'm sorry, I'm angry.

• 43:52Speaker 03

  They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us. And so I go up and I'm like, "Hi, um, sir, uh, you are in my seat." And he's like, "What?" And I was like, and the movie has started. And I was like, "You're, oh, you're in my seat. I paid for these seats." And his wife is like, "What's going on?" And I'm like, "Oh my God." I was like, "Please," and the movie has started. And I'm like, "Please move over one seat." And then the people behind them are like, "Why are these people standing in the middle of the movie?" And I was like, "This is my ticket. Move over one." And finally, they did get the message and move over one. But that was a pretty harrowing experience.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  Then you have to sit next to them the whole fucking time.

• 44:36Georgia Hardstark?

  No, I'm out.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  Hold on a second though. Just to devil's advocate.

• 44:39Georgia Hardstark?

  Okay.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Why were you so late?

• 44:40Speaker 03

  That's what my mom said to me too. She was like, "Well, it's your fault. You were late to the movie." So, I mean,

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Have some respect.

• 44:46Speaker 03

  I, uh, you know, I, that's true. I can't deny I was, I was wrong for being late to the movie, but...

• 44:53Speaker 01

  The last time we went to the movies, it was a very similar situation, except for I was the late one. And the movie theater for some, it was in my hometown. It was so dark inside the movie theater that I couldn't find the rows walking, like the letter row walking up and no idea what the number of seat. So, my cousin is up there somewhere. And I walk halfway down and it's pitch black, like I can't see anything. And it's one of those ones where, you know, the new fangled movie theater seats where it's like a lazy boy recliner. So I'm walking really slow because I don't want to slam my shins into a recliner thing. And I just am like guessing as to where my seat would be or where my cousin is.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  And I, so I'm bending over and trying to look into people's faces. Like halfway down, walking really slow and I just go like, Anna? And then this girl just goes, no.

• 45:47Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, no.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  And then I just, so I keep going and then I just end up very slowly running into the wall. Because it was one of those small theaters that doesn't have stairs on either side. It was just like, I just got to the end by touching my nose to a carpeted wall.

• 46:04Georgia Hardstark?

  That hurts me.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  It was so embarrassing.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  That is just so scary though. It's so, it can be so dark in there and there's like, you know, there's like dozens of people sitting quietly and you're like trying to navigate them. I mean, it's like a horror movie.

• 46:17Georgia Hardstark?

  And they can see you fine because her eyes are adjusted.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  And it was the beginning of A Complete Unknown where

• 46:22Speaker 04

  It's so dark.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  It's so dark and they're in a hospital while someone is dying of a degenerative disease. And you're like, Anna? So when I hit the wall, my cousin Sophie is the one that's there and she goes, did you just run into the wall? And I'm like, thanks for your help. And she goes, I couldn't see you. I didn't know it was you until you started laughing.

• 46:42Speaker 04

  That's so funny you said that because the, I saw that movie in the theater too. And the opening, the first like five minutes of A Complete Unknown is so dark that I thought I was about to go to the projection booth and be like, could you like, I don't know if the, you know, the movie's playing right or whatever. And I, because I, there were people just like you who were like fumbling, stumbling. Because it was so, I was like, why is this movie so dark? I don't understand where we're at.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 47:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 47:11Speaker 01

  Wild. Should we let you guys host a little bit?

• 47:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  You know, you guys host like it's your podcast.

• 47:17Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, you go.

• 47:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, we have a few questions here lined up. Millie, what should we start with here?

• 47:25Speaker 04

  Um, oh, gosh, I don't know. You know, this is, we were talking about, you know, kind of what we're gonna do for this podcast, like how we're gonna set it up and what are these like questions that we want to ask our guests, right? And one of the things that came to mind, I mean, again, like this, this podcast that we're doing is also about like movie culture. So, you know, we're talking about not just like movie theater going, but like, like video stores and, you know, just stuff that if you're into movies or there's like these little rituals, these little, you know, little things that we do. And one of the questions that we like to ask is,

• 48:05Speaker 04

  imagine that you're in a video store and so if you're, you know, going through the video store, what's like the first VHS or DVD cover that comes to mind when you enter into a store?

• 48:21Georgia Hardstark?

  Do you have yours?

• 48:22Speaker 01

  I do.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  Oh, good, good.

• 48:23Georgia Hardstark?

  It's not gonna be the same for sure.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  It'd be amazing if it was.

• 48:27Georgia Hardstark?

  Same at the same time? One, two, three, twins.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  A Fish Called Wanda.

• 48:31Georgia Hardstark?

  Oh, A Fish Called Wanda.

• 48:33Speaker 03

  I can see both of those perfectly in my head.

• 48:36Speaker 04

  Oh, my God, so much.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 48:39Georgia Hardstark?

  Why is that? Twins? For some reason, that's, that's, that's the one with Schwarzenegger.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Danny DeVito, yeah.

• 48:46Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?

• 48:50Georgia Hardstark?

  Yes, I was the right age and every other weekend at my dad's house, my single dad, and so we had a, we would have to rent a VCR from the video store, but we're gonna do that. And so we just fucking love that movie and watch the shit out of it. I'm sure it's so inappropriate for children now. Yep.

• 49:11Speaker 03

  Okay, very good. And Karen, what about A Fish Called Wanda? Do you have any relationship with that movie?

• 49:17Speaker 01

  Well, the first thing I saw was Kevin Kline with his like balancing on something, which actually could be from a different movie. But I'm picturing him, like, I feel like he had that spate, this run of movies from like eighty-four to ninety-five, where it was like, that he would, it would be Kevin Kline on the spine of a VHS tape, like, balancing on a chair, or like, having a mustache.

• 49:42Georgia Hardstark?

  Both these movies are posing for the cover.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:44Georgia Hardstark?

  Like, they're not like, take clip from the movie.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Right.

• 49:47Georgia Hardstark?

  They're like, the cast, they're posing.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:49Georgia Hardstark?

  I totally see it.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  The visual, the visual part. But I think Kevin Kline, anything he was doing, I wanted to be there for it. And my family would be too. Like, A Fish Called Wanda made my parents laugh so hard. It was one of those kinds of, that and The Four Seasons, like, where you're like, what's going on that they like this so much? So then it made me pay more attention to, like, the actual comedy, because I was interested in, like, what, what was everyone doing that was eliciting that response?

• 50:19Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  They weren't, because they were not easy laughers, and they were, like, crying laughing. So I think it was that piece of it, where it's like, kind of what our family liked a little bit.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  It is funny, because I feel like you, you, you mentioned that they like, these are both, like, posing for the poster, and I feel like that's such a lost art. Everything's photoshopped now, or it's like a still taken from the movie or something, but like...

• 50:41Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, very poorly, too.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 50:43Georgia Hardstark?

  These weird, like, it looks like a Hallmark movie poster.

• 50:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 50:46Georgia Hardstark?

  But it's like a big-budget movie.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  I don't know if people, they just can't be, you know, these stars can't, don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something, but...

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Right. Get in front of that white psychic pose.

• 50:58Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  Sell this thing.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Well, very good. That's, I love that. Millie, you know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What, what's, what's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?

• 51:09Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, I was such a video store loser as a kid. I mean, I was there constantly, and it was just like, you know, well, first of all, my parents never let us go to the movie theater. They were too cheap to let us go to a first-run movies. So we were at the video store constantly, and I, all of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section. It's just what clicked in my brain. And so I think for me, the first one that comes to mind is the cover for a movie called Happy Birthday to Me.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  And it's a basically a shish kebab skewer going through the guy's mouth into the back of his head.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Happy birthday to me.

• 51:59Speaker 03

  I have never even heard of this movie.

• 52:02Speaker 04

  What? Oh, my.

• 52:03Speaker 01

  It's a classic.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, that's it was in the like solid horror section, which I wouldn't necessarily be that interested in. But you would kind of love the like, I was thinking that would always be next to like Christine. And then like something else. So you'd be like, oh, I would watch a Stephen King. Oh, my God. Happy birthday to me. Or like the one where the like, she will have her revenge. There was some really dark late 70s horror that would get mixed in there. So then it would just be like, well, we can't rent that. But what is it? Like, what's happening over there?

• 52:34Speaker 04

  There was another one that is in that era, I think, or around that era. The movie was, I think the movie is called Phenomena by Dario Argento, the, you know, Italian horror director. But it was called Creepers. And it was basically the the cover was like an illustration of Jennifer Connelly, the actress Jennifer Connelly, with half of her face being ripped off by like insects.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  There's a lot of bugs in Phenomena.

• 53:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:06Speaker 03

  Creep, AKA Creepers.

• 53:08Speaker 04

  And this is just on a shelf at my height, which at the time I was probably like, what, three feet tall or something? I mean, I was like, and I'm going, yeah, this is like totally ruining my life. Like, all of these little boxes. They were so evocative, so freaky. And it just, you know, those are the things that I kind of gravitated towards, I think.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely. And you were in there like staring at these boxes like you. It was quiet like the library. And you were desperate to pick something that would actually entertain you because that was like your one chance where it's like, go find something. And then it was like, well, will I pick that will actually make me happy?

• 53:43Georgia Hardstark?

  And your sibling can't. So you have to, you guys have to agree on it.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:46Georgia Hardstark?

  That's the worst part.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  Fabulous. I love talking about VHS covers in the video store because I just think it's like a tie. It's like when you sort of start learn like movies become evocative to you at a very young age where you're like, what is that? I need to know what that is. And I think that's sort of.

• 54:02Georgia Hardstark?

  Well, you know, my sister and I snuck into the X rated. We pushed the curtain aside and ran into the X rated video store section. When no one was looking.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  How was it?

• 54:13Georgia Hardstark?

  I, I, we were, I read about this in our book. I was like, you have, I was so overwhelmed. I'm like, you have to look at one and you have to pay attention. You have to like focus on it or you're not going to see anything, you know, because I was so overwhelmed.

• 54:23Speaker 03

  That's really good. That's like a mature thought process going into this.

• 54:28Georgia Hardstark?

  It's like circle, circle, circle. Just look at something. And so I looked at it. It was called Naked With Shoes On. And it blew my mind. She had like tennis, you know, like LA geared tennis shoes and like scrunch socks and was like clearly naked everywhere else. Naked with shoes on. I was like, oh my God, that's a thing. Like I didn't, I didn't realize adults were like into it, making with shoes on.

• 54:48Speaker 04

  That is so, such a weird concept now that I think about it because like my local video store had that section as well, curtained off. So you're predictably like in the family video store with like other people in your community. So you're seeing like neighbors.

• 55:07Speaker 03

  You're seeing your pastor, you're seeing your.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  So it's like, then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad like disappears behind the curtain. And I'm like, that would never, like, that is such a weird concept. I don't know if that would happen these days. Like, nobody wants to be in the X-rated video section while people are running twins, right? It's like a different vibe. So.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  It's like pervs go in the bath. Yeah.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  They don't want that for themselves.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  No. But they all had that though.

• 55:40Georgia Hardstark?

  They did.

• 55:41Speaker 01

  It was like, it was always like beaded curtain, kind of like, here's the sexy area.

• 55:47Georgia Hardstark?

  Did you ever rent anything when you got older?

• 55:49Speaker 01

  In the beaded sexy area? No. My God.

• 55:53Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, me neither.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  I just watched The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover a bunch of times.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  That's a great arthouse movie. I love.

• 56:01Georgia Hardstark?

  I don't know though.

• 56:02Speaker 01

  It's very sexy and dirty and there's a lot of like pate on naked bodies.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  I think Helen Mirren is like covered in rotting meat, completely nude at some point in that film.

• 56:14Georgia Hardstark?

  Sexy. Yeah.

• 56:15Speaker 03

  Yeah. Excellent.

• 56:16Georgia Hardstark?

  But does she have shoes on?

• 56:17Speaker 01

  Wow. The idea that they just named it what the thing is, is the funniest. Yeah. I love it so much.

• 56:25Georgia Hardstark?

  And I tried to look it up and I can't find it. Like, it might not exist in real life. It might just exist in my mind. I want to ask one last question. Do you guys have a dream guest? And David Lynch, R.I.P. That would have been amazing. But do either of you have a dream guest?

• 56:38Speaker 04

  I mean, Keanu Reeves. I already, I say that every, every film podcast that we do. I always say Keanu Reeves.

• 56:47Georgia Hardstark?

  Could happen.

• 56:48Speaker 03

  Could. Love for that to happen.

• 56:50Georgia Hardstark?

  He loves movies. Yeah, turns out. Always has.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  I feel like one that I thought would, I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast, I mean, he's like such a movie lover. That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show. But, uh, so he would be a dream guest of mine.

• 57:08Georgia Hardstark?

  Put those out into the universe.

• 57:09Speaker 04

  And I'll, I'll appeal to him as a fellow Italian American and I will start talking about, you know, cannolis and, uh, other Italian things and hopefully he'll come. So.

• 57:21Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. I watched a documentary, um, forced with my dad about the automat in, uh, New York City that he was in and talked very passionately about the automat and what the automat was like. It was hilarious.

• 57:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, he would be awesome.

• 57:35Georgia Hardstark?

  Let's do it.

• 57:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good one.

• 57:37Georgia Hardstark?

  We'll get on that here at Exactly Right. We're gonna do everything we can. All right. Do you guys have, is there anything else you want to talk about? Or a plug or anything?

• 57:44Speaker 04

  No, we just really, we just really are so thankful for you both, uh, for, you know, respecting the vision and, and, and helping us get it going. And we're just so happy to be back doing film podcasts with Exactly Right. I mean, I had such a great experience the first time. And like, when we were talking about ending, you know, I saw what you did. I was like, huh, huh, huh, no, I want to say, don't blow me out of my dream. So I was, you know, like, really, really excited that we kind of kept it in the fam, you know, with Casey and I don't know. I'm just really, really excited about what we can do and we hope that everybody enjoys it and takes a listen. So.

• 58:26Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah. I mean, it was an easy hell yes. When we heard the pitch, it was just like, fucking absolutely. I can't wait to see what you guys do and.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's great.

• 58:35Georgia Hardstark?

  It's exciting.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  It's great. I will definitely miss I Saw What You Did because as a film historian and a great writer, Millie, you just would kind of present these, the movies that you and Danielle would talk through. It would be like Danielle would just be kind of the person who was like, oh, I just saw this for the first time. And then you would be, you would present the kind of the other side of like, well, here are all the things I know about this. And it's so deeply interesting to me because you are so good at that and you have been doing it for so long. But listening to the two of you guys talk, and it's much more kind of like up to date conversational recommendations, what's going on, it's day and date. It's almost like a little, it's like your movie newsletter.

• 59:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 59:16Speaker 01

  As opposed to your movie thesis, which both so valid. But you guys as a combination is just like so charming and easy to listen to as a podcast. So great.

• 59:25Speaker 03

  Thank you. Oh, one thing I want to pitch is, or a plug, I should say, is The Softies, the band The Softies, they do the theme song to our show and they're one of my favorite bands. And we're an inspiration to kind of the vibe of the podcast. So it was like such a thrill to have them do the theme song. So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, The Bed I Made. You can listen to that. But they did the-

• 59:48Georgia Hardstark?

  I love them. That's exciting.

• 59:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a perfect, their theme song is so perfect and lovely.

• 59:54Georgia Hardstark?

  Yeah, I know. It's so cute.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  You guys, congratulations. We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it.

• 1:00:00Georgia Hardstark?

  It's so great. Dear Movies I Love You launches on January 28th and new episodes will air every Tuesday.

• 1:00:05Speaker 01

  Also, don't forget to listen, subscribe, and give that show a five star rating. It really deserves it.

• 1:00:11Georgia Hardstark?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  And also stay sexy.

• 1:00:13Georgia Hardstark?

  And don't get murdered.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 1:00:17Georgia Hardstark?

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• 1:00:26Speaker 01

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• 1:00:28Georgia Hardstark?

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• 1:00:30Speaker 01

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• 1:00:32Georgia Hardstark?

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• 1:00:35Speaker 01

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• 1:00:37Georgia Hardstark?

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