TBT: Dani Williamson

Throwback Thursday Ready to feel better in your body than ever before? Grab a notebook and pen because this week’s episode is packed with life-changing insight. Bunnie sits down with her health and wellness fairy godmother, Dani Williamson. Don’t let the southern charm fool you—Dani’s a seasoned family nurse practitioner and nurse midwife with over a decade of experience in integrative medicine. She dives into how your diet can drive disease, why it’s never too late to take control of your health, and gives us a peek into her latest book, Wild and Well. Bunnie also opens up about her own wellness journey and how just a few small changes made a huge difference in how she feels today. Watch Full Episodes & More: www.dumbblondeunrated.com http://www.dumbblondeunrated.com/

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• 0:00Bunnie XO?

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• 1:26Speaker 01

  Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker and now hosts the podcast Dumb Blonde.

• 1:31Bunnie XO?

  Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit. And I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child and here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I have a real treat and this woman is so frickin amazing. You guys are gonna fall in love with her, just like I did the first time I met her. This is a woman who helps people daily and has been helping me along my health journey for the past two years. My sweet, dear friend, and would I, would I call you a holistic practitioner or what is the title?

• 2:08Speaker 02

  I'm a traditionally trained family nurse practitioner and nurse midwife, but I stepped out of the boat 13 years ago to practice integrative medicine.

• 2:15Bunnie XO?

  Ms. Danny Williamson.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Aw, thank you.

• 2:20Bunnie XO?

  How you doing, baby?

• 2:21Speaker 02

  I'm doing great, feeling good, doing great.

• 2:23Bunnie XO?

  So we have been talking about having you on the podcast for years now. And I want to apologize for not bringing you on sooner, but I have to tell you why I didn't do it. And this is just me keeping it real. When I first went to you, I was still learning about, you know, the holistic practices and I was not willing to budge on my diet. Like I wanted to eat what I wanted to eat and I wanted to just do my own thing. And I was just like, I'm not, you know, because the first thing that you look for, and we'll talk about that is like, what's in your diet? And I was just like, I'm not doing it. I'm so set in my ways. And then when these health issues hit me in January, I was like, okay, I gotta do it the Danny way. And like, now I'm actually seeing real results.

• 3:06Bunnie XO?

  And now I can actually be like, okay, yes, this is, there is a method to this madness because I don't like preaching to my people without actually having gone through it and

• 3:15Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 3:16Bunnie XO?

  and have actual changes. So I just want to apologize for being so fucking stubborn.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  It's okay. I deal with it every single day. When you're ready, you'll do it.

• 3:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  You know, and it took me years. I mean, I was 44 years old before I, before I even knew. So you doing it now at your age is

• 3:34Bunnie XO?

  Forty-three.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. Yeah. So, and by the time you're my age at 57, you're go, I mean, you're going to feel better at 57 than you ever felt at 44, 30, I know. It's incredible. I'll never go back. There's not enough gluten and dairy in the world to make me go back to how I felt 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago. I'm not doing it. Forty years ago.

• 3:55Bunnie XO?

  I'm so excited to deep dive with you into all of this because the human body to me is fascinating. Like, it's like we talk about, like, we are science projects and the body really does heal itself. There's so much like medication out there and it's really just a Band-Aid for a bullet wound.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  You bet. We're treating symptoms. I was taught to treat symptoms, traditionally trained, great school, Vanderbilt, have a great education, $200,000 in student loans. It's taken me 13 years to unlearn.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  The Band-Aid portion of what I was taught, right? So, so we need medications for certain things. We need medications and traditional medicine is incredible for emergencies and things. But our bodies are designed to heal themselves. I am living proof. If you were born healthy, you do not have to live sick.

• 4:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 4:47Speaker 02

  I mean, it's as simple as that. The majority of us are born healthy, happy and whole. Not everyone, but most of us are. And we turn on these chronic lifestyle diseases like me, lupus and fibromyalgia. And, you know, you could have high blood pressure, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease like my mom. Those are chronic lifestyle diseases turned on by your lifestyle, turned off by your lifestyle.

• 5:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I've, I've been reading your book, which we'll get into Wild and Well. It's amazing. She has it on audio and she also has it available to purchase everywhere.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:20Bunnie XO?

  Um, and it's, it's just really crazy learning about just how trauma alone can affect your body, you know, which a lot of people don't realize. And you actually went through some traumas as a child.

• 5:35Speaker 02

  Bunny, I grew, I grew up in a complete shithole of chaos, right? My grandfather, he died by suicide in the driveway of the house that I grew up in. My mom attempted suicide multiple times, institutionalized twice before I was born. And then, uh, was institutionalized when I was six weeks old for postpartum psychosis. Her fir-, my first stepfather was a child molester. The second one almost choked me unconscious my senior year in high school. And I started, I started in high school with chronic diarrhea. I mean, just, it's, it just horrible diarrhea.

• 6:15Bunnie XO?

  Was that from, was that from living in fight or flight all the time?

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Stress, you bet. Chronic diarrhea. I had the first of four colonoscopies at age 20. I had four colonoscopies before I was 44 years old. I was diagnosed with chronic itching, like urticaria, chronic itching. I was diagnosed with lupus, fibro. I was depressed. I was on every medicine known to man. And then of course diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome. But, and every single bit of that was caused from childhood trauma, the majority of it, and my diet. So I spent, you know, 44 years seeing doctors, 10 doctors, but I was 38 years old. And I, I remember the morning that I was going to die by suicide. I had it planned. I was gonna drive off the foot of Broadway.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Uh, and I talk about it in the book, you know, and it, it's hard to talk about. But I was gonna die that morning and I was literally was laying in bed. Ready to fulfill the family legacy sort of thing. And all of a sudden through the bedroom door, Jackson and Ella came running in. They were like five and six years old and they were like, Mom, Mom, get up. And I mean, they jumped on the bed. They wanted to eat and

• 7:25Bunnie XO?

  Jackson and Ella are her children.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  They are. They're my, they're my kids. Yes. And they're now 25 and 27. And they saved my life that day. I got up and I was in a verbally and emotionally abusive marriage. I was not physically abusive, but I, I filed for divorce less than a year later. I was on food stamps, a medical card. We packed up a 26 foot U-Haul to, I, I, I got accepted to nurse practitioner school down here. I already had a, a degree in fashion design. Made a 180 turn to go to nursing school. And, um, a hermit crab, a cat, an English bulldog, Harlan Howard, um, two kids. And we started over 17 years ago and

• 8:07Bunnie XO?

  Let's rewind it. Let's rewind it a little bit. Cause there's a lot of people that listen to my podcast that have grown up with fucked up childhoods. And are so traumatized. So, you know, I want people that to stay with people that actually are dealing with a lot of like he- health issues that one, trauma causes a lot of them. Do you think it causes most of them?

• 8:29Speaker 02

  I believe so. Yes. And you know, the body keeps score. You've read the book and Dr. Vessel, um, Vandercock.

• 8:36Bunnie XO?

  Vandercock. Sorry. It's my ADD.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  That book is one of the best books I ever read and the body does keep score. What happens to you before the age of 18 can set you up for a lifetime of chronic disease. And it takes a lot of work to unwind that.

• 8:54Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. I, I actually read a book. I forget the name of it, but I've promoted it on this podcast a million times. Um. Where they say that trauma can start at the moment of conception.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  You bet, even before.

• 9:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  Even before.

• 9:06Bunnie XO?

  Like how your, it's just how your mom felt.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Generational.

• 9:08Bunnie XO?

  While she was pregnant with you.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 9:10Bunnie XO?

  If your mom and dad argued.

• 9:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:11Bunnie XO?

  If your mom did drugs, what she ate, like.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:14Bunnie XO?

  There's just, like, we are just doomed from the start.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Well, you know, it's really interesting, and it didn't dawn on me writing the book, but since then, as I've learned more about, about some things. I was born with a cord wrapped around my neck three times. I was literally the color of this microphone right here, just as black. My mom said, well, she saw me briefly, black as it could be from the neck up. I was taken away, didn't see her for three days. They told her I wouldn't live. Trauma, trauma. And then literally, six weeks later, my mom is whisked away in a, in a mental hospital.

• 9:48Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 9:49Speaker 02

  And I've got somebody taking care of me. But, but the, but the trauma before that, my mom's mom, her dad dying by suicide, six years before I was born, and I was born on the exact day he died by suicide. January the 18th, six, six years later, I think. So yeah, it's generational, but I am telling you, I have done the hard work. And the thing is, I didn't know about therapy. When I was molested, the night the police came and, and you know, the whole thing was over and, and, and they took, well, they didn't take him away. They didn't arrest him and nobody ever said a word about it. They swept it under that rug right there, never said a word. I was 13 years old and my mom looked at me square in the eye, Bunny, and she said, Danielle, you caused me to lose the only man I've ever loved.

• 10:34Bunnie XO?

  Oh, that's disgusting.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  And it's just, you know, over, and it's not unlike so many people. Millions of children have grown up like this.

• 10:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  And it's never addressed. And we wonder why we have autoimmune disease?

• 10:47Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Why women lose their thyroid? You know, thyroid's are my specialty. Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the majority of the patients that I see. Well, that's your voice. That's your third chakra.

• 10:58Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Right there, right?

• 10:59Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  And so, these, it's, it's, it's no wonder that women have autoimmune disease eight to 10 times more than men do.

• 11:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  And if there's trauma involved, you know, oftentimes, it's the throat that's affected, the thyroid.

• 11:14Bunnie XO?

  And the heart.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  And the pelvis area.

• 11:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that too.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Right? We close down.

• 11:17Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. No, it's crazy that you say that. I actually went through a similar situation whenever I was younger. I was molested, but I didn't tell my parents about it until I was 12. And when I did tell them about it, they told me I was lying. And I think that's the worst feeling that you can ever feel is whenever you go through something like that and your parents don't believe you. It's like you don't trust anybody for the rest of your life. You're like, okay, you don't got me. Well, then I've got me. And then that creates more trauma because you know, you're going through life just not trusting anybody because you don't feel like you were heard.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Exactly right.

• 11:50Bunnie XO?

  Um, so the night that that happened, did you start having symptoms as a child with IBS?

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:58Bunnie XO?

  Like, okay.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and, and I don't know, I must have been in third grade, maybe, um, third, I think it was probably third grade.

• 12:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 02

  And it was, wasn't long after that, but then she married another man fast after that. And they were married for, he's the one who was, who was physically abusive. And yeah, started great, uh, middle school.

• 12:20Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. So you started having issues.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Every time I would eat, every time I would eat, you know, I called it the mad shitters. I didn't call it then, the mad shitters, but I do now. And I have patient after patient, patient with the mad shitters, right? And, and it's not normal to eat and have to run to the bathroom.

• 12:37Bunnie XO?

  That's how my husband is.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  That's not normal. No one's born like that. So we always have to go back upstream, right?

• 12:43Bunnie XO?

  I used to always be so jealous of him.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  What happened? Well, yeah, because you, yeah.

• 12:48Bunnie XO?

  Because I couldn't shit.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  I know. I was gonna say.

• 12:50Bunnie XO?

  No, no, I talk about it all the time.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  I caught myself. I was like, oh, no.

• 12:53Bunnie XO?

  Oh, no. Danny, there's nothing you don't know that they, they don't know. I am so honest.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  You don't poop, so, so as well.

• 13:00Bunnie XO?

  I do now, though. I do now, though. We'll talk about that.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've never had that problem. I poop like a goose. So like, I mean, on, on command, I can do that. But yeah, it started early, but you know, I didn't know, I didn't have anxiety that I was aware of. I wasn't depressed as a kid. Uh, you know, but the joint pain started in high school. No high schooler should have joint pain. But you know what? I had all the processed, packaged, bagged, canned, fake food out there, right? Gluten, dairy, so all that, all the inflammatory foods. And then I was living in complete chaos. And I didn't leave home like, like you, but I worked three jobs so that I never randomly was I at home, was I home?

• 13:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I would have rather slept on the street than slept in my parents' house. That's where I was at with it. I was just like, fuck this. I'm breaking generational curses as a child. Let's go.

• 13:52Bunnie XO?

  But I didn't know that I was doing that, you know, like, it's just so weird that you're, we're just natural born warriors. And when you're, you have to survive, it's what you do.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  You bet you do.

• 14:00Bunnie XO?

  And that's what you did too.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. And since then, you know, I've been divorced 20 years, so I've been a single mom for 20 years and raised those kids. And yeah, we're natural born warriors. You do what you have to do. But the thing is, when you're living in that constant state of fight or flight, even as an adult, right? I mean, I spent years living like that as an adult, just trying to survive. And I was humiliated. I got divorced and just had an affair. This, the whole thing was a shit show.

• 14:26Bunnie XO?

  Well, you had to learn how to love. You weren't taught.

• 14:30Speaker 02

  No, I wasn't.

• 14:31Bunnie XO?

  And you didn't love yourself. It was like, we've all been there, like we've all, trust me, I've had some real doozies of relationships. And even my marriage to Jay has been a completely, a complete learning lesson. And you know, we've had to unlearn childhood traumas together. You know, so that you can't blame yourself for the things that you did in the past.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Well, that's true. That's true. But I sure, I, but

• 14:55Bunnie XO?

  I love that you take accountability.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  I do take accountability for it, you know, and I don't have many regrets cheating on my ex-husband.

• 15:04Speaker 02

  You don't get married thinking you're going to cheat. That I tell people every day, man, if you're that unhappy, get out. Take the high road and just get out because you know, you can't undo that. Once you do it, you can't undo it.

• 15:18Bunnie XO?

  Very hard to work through. Some people can do it, but it's not a lot and it's not for the weak. That's for sure.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  No, no. So, so you know, that right there, I would, I would never do again. But all that being said. Once I got out of that, once I got out of school, once I had a doctor lean into me at forty four years old and he said, Dani, what are you eating? Don't you know your diet controls your disease?

• 15:42Bunnie XO?

  Let's rewind it back really quick, though, because I do want people to know you were diagnosed with lupus as well as IBS.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 15:48Bunnie XO?

  And you did take medication.

• 15:50Speaker 02

  I did.

• 15:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  I sure did, because I had a rheumatologist.

• 15:52Bunnie XO?

  I read the book, okay?

• 15:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I had a rheumatologist at Vandy, the best one ever, and I was living in Paducah, and I came down here for, to see the best.

• 16:00Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 16:01Speaker 02

  She had her hand on that door and she looked at me, I was about thirty-five, and she said, Danielle, there is no cure for lupus.

• 16:08Bunnie XO?

  Mm.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  It kills women every day.

• 16:10Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Here's your pain medicine, here's your anti-inflammatory, and I was looking at her, I was like, what the heck? I've got two little kids, I can't stand my husband. What am I gonna do? And I just don't want to be, I just don't want to die. So I took it for like, three days. Well, come to find out, it was, it's Vioxx. Well, Vioxx will kill you, I mean, it was taken off the market for sudden cardiac death.

• 16:31Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:32Bunnie XO?

  And isn't that crazy that they prescribe all these medications?

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 16:35Bunnie XO?

  And literally, they come with so many fucking warning signs.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  You bet they do.

• 16:40Bunnie XO?

  Like, you watch a commercial and they're like, take this to cure your diabetes, but, you know, risk of, risk of heart stroke, fucking heart palpitations, your, your mom's gonna call and want to move in. Like, there's so many, like, side effects that come with taking these pills.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, and actually, I was talking to, it's just somebody I haven't seen since high school this weekend, he was at the house. He literally is taking, he, he started taking gabapentin for something, which is for neuropathy.

• 17:06Bunnie XO?

  That stuff's terrible.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  Right, something in his back. Well, that caused blood pressure issues, and he's on blood pressure medicine now, which actually caused heartburn, and now he's on a proton pump inhibitor for, for the acid, I mean, blah, blah, blah, and he's rattling all this off to me. Has no idea, you know, what I do for a living, he doesn't know. And he has no clue that he's just piling on pill after pill, treating symptom after symptom.

• 17:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  That was created, and never once has a doctor or a nurse practitioner looked at him and said, what are you eating?

• 17:38Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  What's your childhood like?

• 17:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Did you have any trauma? And you know this, every patient who comes in has that adverse childhood experience questionnaire now. And one through 10, you know, and

• 17:49Bunnie XO?

  It gets deep too.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Oh, it's

• 17:50Bunnie XO?

  I remember the first time I had to see you. I was like, good lord, does this woman write in a book? Literally, you did. But I was like, this is crazy, but there's a method to the madness.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  You bet there is.

• 18:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 18:02Bunnie XO?

  So after taking these, these medications, you were on it for three days. You were still feeling like shit. What led you on this path that you're on now to holistic healing and?

• 18:13Speaker 02

  I wasn't on that, that path at all until the age of 44, when I got out of school, right? You know, I, I left everything, got out of school, oldest one in my class at the time. Got out of school, 44 years old.

• 18:26Bunnie XO?

  That's so inspiring though.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Oh, Lord, thank you. It was the hardest thing I ever did. It was the absolute, my son's in medical school now and he's finishing his second year, getting ready to start his third year. And he's, it, which is just over the top complicated. But he said to me one day, he said, Mom, I don't know how you did it with two little kids. And going through an accelerated program and doing it. I mean, it was the hardest thing I've ever done. But I did it. So there we go.

• 18:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you were determined.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  Yes. And I was 44 years old, first job out. Actually, second job, I got fired from the first job in the emergency room because I wasn't learning fast enough, which is in the book. And, um, and, but basically my second job out and Dr. Calb looked at me that day and he said, Danny, what are you eating? I was working in an integrative medicine clinic. I had no idea what integrative medicine was. I didn't know what ashwagandha was and holy basil and, and glutathione and glutamine and all of that. I was way over my head and I said, what are you talking about? He said, Danny, your diet controls your disease. Your diet controls your symptoms. Don't you know that? And I was like, no, I don't know that. You shouldn't hurt Danny.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  You should not have diarrhea when you eat. And I was like, what in the world have I got myself into? He said, do you know your food sensitivities? Do you know your food sensitivities? Well, no, I don't know my food sensitivities. Oh my gosh. So that's what started me and I start, I worked for Dr. Calb for five years here before I opened my own clinic. And that's what started me. He stepped out of the boat. Twenty years before me, as a family practice doc, and I'm a family practice nurse practitioner, when he realized we're not helping people.

• 20:04Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  We're only treating symptoms.

• 20:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  You know, we're treat, treat and street. That's all we do. Treat and street and send them on their way. And that he changed, single-handedly changed the entire trajectory of my life.

• 20:16Bunnie XO?

  It's amazing.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  And my children's lives, and I hope generationally, and now thousands of patients' lives.

• 20:21Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. No, it's amazing.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  And it's not easy, is it?

• 20:24Bunnie XO?

  It's not.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  It's not easy, but it's very, it's very simple, but it's not easy. There's a difference.

• 20:31Bunnie XO?

  So I don't know if it's simple either. It's, it is, but it isn't. And we'll get into that a little bit because I think your book is perfect for somebody who wants to start on this journey.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 20:41Bunnie XO?

  Because you literally break it down, chapter by chapter, and explain to people like, this is what this is, this is what that is. I am obsessed with the chapter that you did on inflammation.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:54Bunnie XO?

  Because a little-

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Inflammation is the devil.

• 20:56Bunnie XO?

  Exactly. And so what led me on this, this health journey, and this is where it comes all full circle, is I got sober in 2017 off pills, 2018 off alcohol. And you guys know, I always say sobriety fucking sucks. It is the worst.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  You told me that. That, yes.

• 21:16Bunnie XO?

  I am so, I'm brutally honest with my, with my audience, you know? It's not easy and it's not for the weak because one, you have to start feeling all the trauma that you've gone through.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 21:25Bunnie XO?

  And then you have to start feeling all the symptoms that you fucking never felt before. And it's, it's like, there's no guide on how to fix this. So listening to your book, I think, is a perfect start for people. And again, the book is called Wild and Well, and tell them where they can buy it.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Everywhere. Barnes and Noble, Books-A-Million.

• 21:45Bunnie XO?

  Amazon.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  On Amazon. I would love for you to go to your local bookstore though, because I'm a business, local business owner, you know? And I would love for you to support your local bookstore. But anywhere. And it's all on Audible. And I read it, good lord, 20 hours in a booth.

• 21:59Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 21:59Speaker 02

  Reading this. And this redneck accent, like my publisher was like, no, you're reading the book. We're not paying for somebody to read the book. Good lord.

• 22:06Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  I had to say so many things-

• 22:08Bunnie XO?

  You did a great job.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Over and over and over because I, I'm just a country girl.

• 22:12Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  You know? I mean, I'm pretty smart.

• 22:14Bunnie XO?

  So circling back to the inflammation chapter, you know, got sober, whatever.

• 22:20Bunnie XO?

  Been on this health journey, been trying to do the supplements. I tried to do the supplement thing. I ended up overdosing on fucking vitamins because I just, my body is crazy sensitive.

• 22:31Bunnie XO?

  And you know, after that happened, I kind of went cold turkey and then that's when I kind of fell away from you because I had gone and seen you and when 2020 or 2021?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 22:41Bunnie XO?

  In between that, yeah, 2020 or 2021.

• 22:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think it was 2021. Um, I had gone to see you. I wasn't ready to change my diet and stuff like that. Well, I went cold turkey. I was feeling great. Everything was fine. And then we are in Vegas on a trip filming for like two weeks, the reality show. And all of a sudden, my heart starts tripping out. And it's just so many issues after issues. I had to wear a heart monitor. You know, all this. I'm just walking it through to, to, to say that by the end of testing, and we, we still have more tests coming, but the, the ones that I got, the last round that I did, um, it all boiled down to inflammation.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 23:26Bunnie XO?

  In my body.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 23:27Bunnie XO?

  Like, I feel like I was dying, dude. My blood sugar was off. My blood pressure was off. I was having what I now know as cortisol episodes, which I had one last night and it's around the same, but it was very mild, very, I felt it coming on. It wasn't like how it used to be. And I'm thinking it's hormonal because it happened the same time last month because I've been keeping a journal. I want you guys to know something. If you are having health issues, keep a journal.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 23:55Bunnie XO?

  Because it will help you so much, especially when you go to somebody like Danny, because you can be like, hey, this is what's going on. But said all that, because inflammation is the devil. And can we kind of like dive into that a little bit about inflammation?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, you bet. Inflammation is, it's very rare in medicine to be able to say always or a hundred percent. You don't say that. We're taught, never say always.

• 24:21Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  100% of all chronic lifestyle diseases, right?

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Have an underlying cause of inflammation.

• 24:30Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  An inflammatory process is the reason for that high blood pressure, that high cholesterol, that autoimmune disease, which we now have eighty-eight, a hundred and twenty or something. Autoimmune diseases, right? Alzheimer's disease, which we could talk about for days because of my experience now with Alzheimer's, dementia, Parkinson's disease, lupus, you name it. Joint pain. Joint pain is all inflammation, yet they never say a word, do they? Heart palpitations.

• 25:00Bunnie XO?

  That too. And another thing you said-

• 25:02Speaker 02

  Migraines, depression, anxiety. Sorry, I could just-

• 25:04Bunnie XO?

  No, I know.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  Off, on and on. It's an inflammatory process.

• 25:08Bunnie XO?

  But another thing that you also said in the book was anything that ends in itis.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  You bet. That means inflammation, right? Thyroiditis, gastritis, colitis, sinusitis, vasculitis, diverticulitis. That is an inflammatory response. Itis means inflammation. So then you have to say, what's creating the inflammation? Where's the inflammation coming from? You have to be curious, Bonnie, and this is Bonnie.

• 25:33Bunnie XO?

  You're fine, everybody does it.

• 25:35Speaker 02

  Bunny, bunny, no, I know your name.

• 25:36Bunnie XO?

  Howard Stern called Bonnie too.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Good lord, I know your name. Bunny. And the beauty of you is you are so curious about your body. And so I was telling Jackson the other day, I said, dude, let me tell you something. No doctor is curious. It's, well, I can't say that. It's the random doctor that's curious. Or the nurse practitioner.

• 25:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  Always stay curious. When you stop being curious about your health, or your relationships, or it doesn't matter what, your children, I mean, anything, you need to get out of whatever it is you're doing.

• 26:06Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  You're burned out. Curiosity is what's going to help you heal. Because you gotta go back and say, man, what happened?

• 26:14Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  When did I feel the best in my life?

• 26:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  You know, and I have patients every day say, well, before kids. I'm like, yeah, I hear that. Amen to that. But not me. I felt worse. You know, I felt terrible before children. So always go back upstream. What happened?

• 26:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 26:31Speaker 02

  Where'd the inflammatory response come from? Most of the time, you know where it comes from. The big part of it is what's at the end of your fork. It will heal you or kill you.

• 26:40Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Simple as that.

• 26:41Bunnie XO?

  That's so real.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  There's no in between. You can't sugarcoat it.

• 26:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. And you don't want to sugarcoat it.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  No, never.

• 26:46Bunnie XO?

  The sugar is for sure the root of so much inflammation.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  And now we know Alzheimer's disease, they call it type three diabetes. Type three diabetes, because sugar has such an inflammatory response in the brain. Creating, contributing to dementia and Alzheimer's. And of course, joint pain and cancer. Cancer feeds on sugar.

• 27:08Bunnie XO?

  On sugar, yeah.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  We know that. But yet we continue to drink soda or eat the sugar, whatever. You know, 152 pounds of sugar a year is the average the American eats. And actually, it's probably a little bit more than that now. Could be closer to 200 pounds. That's the average amount of sugar an American eats.

• 27:29Bunnie XO?

  That's insane.

• 27:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:30Bunnie XO?

  Per person.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  And that's per person. And that's included in everything, right? Everything processed. And that's not, that's not your strawberries and your apples and those things, the natural sugar. This is processed, packaged, fake food. Chick-fil-A, and you know who doesn't like Chick-fil-A? Fifty-three ingredients in one sandwich. Fifty-three. Five-three. Count it. It's on their website.

• 27:52Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Fifty-three ingredients. Nobody's chicken sandwich should have fifty-three ingredients in it.

• 27:59Bunnie XO?

  Not at all.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  Right?

• 27:59Bunnie XO?

  Since I've been on this journey and had to cut things out.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:04Bunnie XO?

  I have cut out, because everybody's always asking me this. And now that I have you here, we can, you know, double down on it. I have cut out, sugar was the first thing to go. Because I was eating fucking brownies. I was using my period week as an excuse to pretty much like binge and purge.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 28:19Bunnie XO?

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• 29:02Bunnie XO?

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• 29:27Speaker 04

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• 29:56Bunnie XO?

  And it was, you know, I had an eating disorder. So I've, I've always eaten too less of calories. So I ended up getting a health coach that I've been working with, a nutritionist for two years. And she, you know, up my macros and I'm finally up to almost 2,000 calories a day. Is that not crazy that I've had to fight from a thousand calories a day to almost 2,000 calories a day? And I still need to do more, but um, the first thing I cut out and she's got me eating more carbs than ever. And my body looks the best it's ever looked. Like you don't realize that, um, that eating more helps your body and like,

• 30:29Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 30:29Bunnie XO?

  Gets the metabolism revving. So cut out sugar, cut out, um, seed oils. A lot of people do not realize that's the fury and havoc that seed oils cause on your body.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 30:43Bunnie XO?

  It's insane. And when we say seed oils, what are we talking about here? Like canola oil, sunflower oil, sap, what, what is it?

• 30:51Speaker 02

  Safflower.

• 30:51Bunnie XO?

  Safflower. Like there's just so many, anything that's not like avocado, coconut and what's another one?

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Olive.

• 30:59Bunnie XO?

  Olive. Yep. Love olive oil. Loving olive oil.

• 31:03Speaker 02

  And I love olive oil. Avocado though, I love.

• 31:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  I, I. That's probably my favorite oil.

• 31:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Cut out that, cut out gluten.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 31:11Bunnie XO?

  Gluten has been a game changer. Being out of my life.

• 31:15Speaker 02

  And it's in everything, packaged, processed, bagged, cans in your soy sauce, your salad dressings, your soups. It's in everything. Highly addictive. A drug addict, an alcoholic will have a very difficult time staying clean and sober. If they continue to eat gluten. Did you know that gluten? And morphine work on the same receptors in the brain, right? They both light up the same receptors. That's why you can eat so many, three biscuits before you ever knew what happened at Cracker Barrel, right? Or, or you know, your Chick-fil-A sandwiches before you ever knew, and I'm not ragging on Chick-fil-A or Cracker Barrel. But they have a very high gluten content. So when, and we have decades of research on this and, and, and every rehab center.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  They should all be gluten free.

• 32:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  One hundred percent because it, it, it, they literally work on the same receptors. Gluten's addictive, highly addictive. That's why it's added to everything.

• 32:12Bunnie XO?

  That is crazy.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  Literally means glue in Latin, gluten. Means glue in Latin and it, it makes breads and cakes and crackers and cookies and everything fatter, fluffier and softer. Right? And more addictive.

• 32:25Bunnie XO?

  I just don't understand. I feel like the government is trying to kill us all.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  I feel that way as.

• 32:29Bunnie XO?

  Like, good lord, because in other countries, they don't have this shit.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  No, they don't. I went to Italy seven years ago for my fiftieth, um, birthday. I ate everything I wanted for the first time in ten years. I ate a pizza. I mean, I ate everything. I ate the gelato, the cappuccino, the pizza, the cannoli, the pasta. Not one problem. I took my gluten enzymes. I still took them, you know, I didn't want to risk it, but took my gluten blocking enzymes. Literally no joint pain, no diarrhea, no bloating, bloating, gas, gurgling. That's all an inflammatory response. If you're bloated after you eat, that's an inflammatory response to something.

• 33:06Bunnie XO?

  Right. I've heard that from so many people who have said that they've traveled overseas

• 33:10Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 33:10Bunnie XO?

  And that they can eat whatever they want, but could never eat like that in America.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  No, you can't. So you ate, you cut out gluten and sugar.

• 33:18Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  What, and dairy?

• 33:19Bunnie XO?

  And white dairy. I've never been a real dairy fan. I cut out dairy probably about, I'd have to say six years ago. Like, I'm not a dairy person. Um, I don't know why I cut it out. I think Jay and I decided to go vegan at one time and we had, is that what happened? Yeah. And we decided to cut it out and I just never got back. Yeah, the kid, she loves, Bailey's here, you guys. She loves milk and I'm always like, stop drinking it. And she's like, no bitch. Like she-

• 33:45Speaker 02

  I'm telling you though, it's inflammatory.

• 33:46Bunnie XO?

  It's so bad.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  You know, and I say this all the time to people, you know, Daniel knew this 2,000 years ago in the Bible.

• 33:52Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  He gave it up 2,000 years ago. What'd he do? So Daniel said, we're not eating that, man. We are not eating the food of the king's palace. You're gonna feed me and my warriors? Pulse, which is basically beans, uh, not beans, seeds and vegetables and things like that. They gave up. Do you know what they gave up 2,000 years ago? In the day, in the Bible, the Daniel fast, red meat.

• 34:17Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Dairy.

• 34:18Bunnie XO?

  Yep.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  And red wine.

• 34:19Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  For 10 days and they came out the strongest warriors. Dairy is so inflammatory. I mean, we're, we're the only mammals, right? Who drank another mammal's milk after we've been weaned.

• 34:31Bunnie XO?

  Milk!

• 34:32Speaker 02

  And cheese is nothing but cow pus. It's cow pus and cow snot. I don't care how you look at it. You can, you, and every time, and I love it. It's my favorite.

• 34:41Bunnie XO?

  Bailey's covering her ears.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  Like I liked you until this.

• 34:44Bunnie XO?

  Bailey's like fa la la la la. She's like, I don't wanna hear this.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Think about what it is. It's gunky and thick and mucousy. So, so Jay, right? If he eats dairy.

• 34:53Bunnie XO?

  No, he doesn't.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  My, my patients that I see who are in the music industry, the, the ones who are amazing, don't eat any dairy. Because it's thick and gunky. It's gonna clog up the mucous. You bet it is. The bronchial tubes, the sinuses, it's, it's, it's terrible for you. It's horrible for you, but it's my favorite. I love cheese. I could eat, I could eat that whole table full of cheese.

• 35:15Bunnie XO?

  I did too. I used to. Now I can't. I try, I've tried to eat cheese now after like just have a sprinkle or like a, a quesadilla or something. I can't do it.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I can't do it. My hands hurt so badly when I eat cheese.

• 35:25Bunnie XO?

  My hands and feet swell now.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  You bet. Me too. I look like a little sausage. I got little hand, you've got these beautiful hands and I've got these square hands.

• 35:31Bunnie XO?

  They're actually little too, but the nails give them some inches. I got sausage links too. No, but if I eat anything bad now, I swell up.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:39Bunnie XO?

  Like my body is just like, no, but you're not eating this. Um, and then I also gave up white flowers.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 35:44Bunnie XO?

  And stuff like that. So I just do almond flour now and like cassava flour, which I'm not a huge fan of, but I'm still trying to figure it out. So if somebody wants to start on a holistic journey, like if they wanted to come see you, I, I hear a lot of people, cause I'm always talking about this on my Tik Tok. And they're like, well, we can't afford that. We can't afford to eat.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 36:03Bunnie XO?

  Whole foods. We can't afford to do that. Like, what do you say to people who say stuff like that? And you know, how could they start their journey?

• 36:11Speaker 02

  Well, if you, if you can't afford to go see a, a provider like me, you can afford to eat healthy. I'm telling you right now, literally driving in here. Excuse me. Half a mile up here is an Aldi's, which is one of my all time. Have you ever shopped at Aldi's?

• 36:27Bunnie XO?

  I have not.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  Have you ever walked into an Aldi?

• 36:29Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  Listen, I used to be an Aldi snob because my mom never had any money. So we had to shop at Aldi. It's, and they're a part of the Trader Joe's corporation.

• 36:37Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  Many people don't know that, but they have the most inexpensive organic food. You don't have to eat all organic, but you, what you need to eat is one ingredient food. That's how you get started, right? Nut, seeds, fruits, vegetables, fish, chicken, lamb, turkey. No, it doesn't have to be all organic, but I have in the book listed the dirty dozen and the clean 15, right? The most toxic 10 foods that are sprayed with glyphosate, which we could talk about two hours on the danger of glyphosate. And then the cleanest, but Walmart, Walmart is the number one buyer and seller of organic food in the world. Most people don't know that.

• 37:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  They're loaded with it. So you can get started, but it's going to take you changing. It's going to take you going, uh, shopping around the edges of the grocery, not going down that aisle, because I am telling you, if it's a bag, a box, a can, a tube, a roll, it's, it's killing you. It's killing you. Literally a list that long on the back of most, you know, it's it's eight or nine lines long on there. So I would start that way. I would start, if you can't afford food sensitivity testing, right? Do an elimination. I talk in here about it. Cut out the top seven inflammatory foods. That's free. Gluten, dairy, soy, corn, sugar, eggs and peanuts. Those are the top seven foods.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Many people, if they just do that one thing, which is very simple, not easy.

• 38:05Bunnie XO?

  Right, no, for sure.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  That's right. It's not easy because we're so emotionally connected to food. Man, everything we do revolves around food.

• 38:12Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Everything, everything.

• 38:14Bunnie XO?

  Any sort of like, meeting people, let's go meet for lunch, let's meet for dinner. Or, you know, it's just everything is a celebration with food.

• 38:22Speaker 02

  But I would do that elimination first. And I am telling you for 21 days, if you can do that and eat real food for 21 days. But I mean, it's a mindset.

• 38:32Bunnie XO?

  Oh, for sure.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  And, and

• 38:33Bunnie XO?

  It's the hardest thing you're ever gonna do.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  The hardest thing you'll ever do is change your diet. You have spent decades creating this dysfunction in your body and this inflammation. It's just like therapy, right? You've spent decades messing this stuff up. It's not, it's gonna take longer than three weeks to unravel all of this. But I, you know this, the second, within a week, within a week of eating clean.

• 38:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 38:58Speaker 02

  Right? Giving up Diet Coke. Diet Coke will kill you, straight up kill you. Right? And it's designed for that. It's designed for addiction. The food industry is about addiction. And again, I'm ragging on that chicken restaurant. I don't even know what time it is, but I think it's probably around 2:30. I guarantee you, there's a line around that Chick-fil-A.

• 39:19Bunnie XO?

  It is, it's right at 2:30.

• 39:24Bunnie XO?

  I was like, good guess, Danny.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  There is a line around that Chick-fil-A on Mallory Lane right now. There's a line around Chick-fil-A in New York City, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Salt Lake City, Utah.

• 39:36Bunnie XO?

  Even I love me some Chick-fil-A. I used to love me some Chick-fil-A.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Because it's about addiction, right? They, it took four years to create their grilled chicken sandwich. Four years to create the formula. It's a chemistry experiment.

• 39:48Bunnie XO?

  Well, I knew there was something wrong though, because every time I eat their chicken nuggets, my face gets like a red mask.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:55Bunnie XO?

  It's the weirdest thing, but I loved it. I was just like, fuck it. I'll just deal with the red mask. Fuck it.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  Girl, I could eat two chicken sandwiches right now and those waffle fries. I mean, but I would be so sick.

• 40:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  But but it's about addiction. So always know that the end of the food industry has shareholders and all that to pay.

• 40:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Right. There's no shareholders over an apple somewhere or a pear. But but you know, I'll start the 10 day detox tomorrow that I always do. I started with a whole group of people. We're doing a parasite detox together for four months.

• 40:25Bunnie XO?

  Four months?

• 40:26Speaker 02

  It's a four month on the on the full moon every month. It's a yeah. Now, the 10 days for the detox and then the parasite cleanse is four months, but you're not changing your diet on that. Just not eating sugar because parasites love sugar, you know, I mean, they they feed on sugar. But start with an elimination. Start with an elimination. Start reading and listening. I put out so much free health content.

• 40:49Bunnie XO?

  You need to get on TikTok.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  I don't even know how to do TikTok, what to do.

• 40:54Bunnie XO?

  Exactly what you're doing on Instagram. I got you. But everything you're doing on Instagram, you need to put on TikTok because it would go viral and you would you'll reach so many people, which before this podcast drops, I would like to get you to start your own TikTok so I can shoot people over there.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  I'll do it. Because here's the thing, I am proof as a 57 year old, country girl, single mom. Let me tell you, if I can do it, anybody can do it.

• 41:19Bunnie XO?

  I can do it. Anybody can do it. I am the most hard headed, stubborn human in the world and like, you're not gonna tell me what I need to do and I'm gonna do it when I want to, you know?

• 41:32Speaker 02

  I know, which is the bulk of my patients that come in and it's so funny because I mean, oftentimes I've had patients I've had for the full time, ever since I started 13, 14, 15 years ago. Other ones that'll drop off and then they want to get back in, right? Because. They've seen the light.

• 41:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  They're like, okay, I tried it my way. Not that I'm so smart, and it's not that. That's why this says six common sense steps to radical healing. The tagline of this books, book. I'm not the smartest one, but I've got more common sense than anybody.

• 42:03Bunnie XO?

  But what, what I love about you, Dani, is you're just like me. You're, you are not going to preach to people unless you've been through it.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  I've been through it. I've been through hell and back.

• 42:14Bunnie XO?

  And you're still putting yourself through classes? Like every time I talk to you, you're doing a new class, learning something new. I'm like, how does this woman have this much energy? I'm fucking ten, you know, four, thirteen years younger than you and I fucking am exhausted by your schedule. And it's just crazy that the passion.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 42:30Bunnie XO?

  The passion you have.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  If you've ever been sick, I was sick, I mean, not sick for four decades, but I felt terrible for three decades. Right? But you just keep going. And once your body, once you give your body what it needs and the body's designed to heal itself.

• 42:46Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  It will definitely reverse whatever you've turned on. It really will, or at least get it so far under the radar that you don't, you know, I'm not on medicine anymore.

• 42:55Bunnie XO?

  Exactly.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  And so you want to share it with the world, right? You do. Look what you've overcome. You are sharing it with the world, with your tribe and, and that's what I do. And anybody who does what I do wants to share that. And that's what I was getting to. If you had no money, listen to me, listen to Dr. Mark Hyman, listen to JJ Verge. I mean, there's so many people.

• 43:13Bunnie XO?

  Dr. Mindy Pels.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  You bet. Dr. Mindy. There are so many people out there who give out free education and all of us.

• 43:20Bunnie XO?

  You too.

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Who are doing what we do, have written a book.

• 43:22Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. There's so much knowledge available to you. I, half the shit I've learned, I've had to teach myself, of course, you have helped tremendously. But I've had to read, I've had to study, I've had the kid pulling up stuff, diagnosing me, like studying stuff. Like January, I really thought I was either one, going to have an autoimmune disease. Or that I really had heart issues. Like I was convinced something was wrong. And I would, it, when you get that scared and you get that low to a certain point, like, okay, mental health, my mental health has been screwed since I got sober. But it's like, you almost kind of get used to it and we'll, we'll deal with that later. But it, physical health, if you don't have physical health either, like you can't be fucked up mentally and physically.

• 44:05Bunnie XO?

  So I was like, I gotta pick a battle here. So I literally zeroed in on my physical health and started changing my diet. You know, I scrolled back on weightlifting because I felt like it was causing my blood pressure to get high and stuff like that. And I'm telling you from January to July, and I had a mini episode last night. And when I say a mini episode, so what was happening was my blood pressure would raise, my blood sugar would spike. And um, it would feel like, almost like a tea kettle, like my head was about to explode. My heart would go up to a hundred and sixty beats per minute, like, and this would happen at three or four in the morning. And it was happening so much. I was having probably like, I don't know, Bailey, how many would you say, four to five episodes a week?

• 44:49Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, it was terrible. And now I had the tiniest, miniest episode last night. I could feel my cortisol levels raising and I literally just took a little dabble of my Benadryl that I do. It's like the tiniest drop of children's Benadryl under my tongue and boom, done. Blood pressure didn't raise, blood sugar didn't raise, like it's just crazy. What happens when you zero in and you actually make yourself a priority and try to heal yourself?

• 45:18Speaker 02

  Well, you're in tune with your body and most people, and I went through this for decades, most people are not in tune. They're not, they just go balls to the wall, a hundred miles an hour and they're not in tune with it.

• 45:31Bunnie XO?

  I wish I could be like that.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  That migraine headache is a red flag, right? That heart palpitation is a red flag. And it's just like marriages or relationships.

• 45:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, you gotta work.

• 45:40Speaker 02

  Often times, we don't pay any attention at all. It's just like whack a mole. You're just whacking things down and, and something else is coming up. But you, you personally, and I've told you this many times, are more in tune. Is she not more in tune with her body than anyone you've ever met? Anyone, even me, and I know my body well, this one literally knows, but she could feel the, probably the blood pulsing through her cells.

• 46:05Bunnie XO?

  Literally.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  It's unbelievable.

• 46:07Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, yeah, I'm an alien.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  I mean, I've never seen anything like it. So you, you're an inspiration.

• 46:15Bunnie XO?

  Well, I appreciate that, but I just want people to know, like, if you go back to in the Meet the D-Fords episodes, you see me going to a heart doctor, like I've documented the entire thing. From then till now is literally 98%. I just need that 2%. But another thing that baffles me about you is, go ahead.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  Protein. Look, we need to talk about protein.

• 46:36Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah, we're gonna talk about all of it. Yeah, we're not, you're here for a minute.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  What baffles you?

• 46:41Bunnie XO?

  We're not rushing you. So what baffles me, I think baffles in a good way, I don't know if that's the word, is how, okay, you have an entire supplement store in your practice.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:55Bunnie XO?

  And ever since I overdosed on vitamins, I refuse to take any store bought supplements. And finally, Dani was like, girl, you need to integrate magnesium back into your diet. And I was like, I'm not gonna do it, I'm not gonna do it. And then finally, I was just like, okay. She has this thing called Relax-Max, and it's like a mixture of Chilax-Max, sorry, I always pronounce it wrong. And she, you know, she gave it to me, so I did the muscle testing, which we should talk about muscle testing too. Muscle testing is when you take a product and you pretty much ask yourself, like, is this good for me?

• 47:36Speaker 02

  That's right. Do I need this today?

• 47:38Bunnie XO?

  Do I need this today? Yep. But you're standing, you could be standing, there's, you can Google, there's different ways that you can do it, but you're standing, you say, do I need this today? And your body will lean forward if you do. And then fall backwards if you don't and it's crazy because it really works.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:53Bunnie XO?

  So we muscle tested her to lax max and my body was like, like yanked me forward and I was like, okay, I really need this.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Yet she was still skeptical, by the way.

• 48:01Bunnie XO?

  But I went home and I was just like, you know what? Danny hasn't seared me wrong yet. So I put the tiniest bit in. And when I tell you my heart palpitations completely stopped that night and stopped for months after of just, I had like, I treated, I did like, um, semi, like, what do they call it? Microdose? I microdosed magnesium and I've been great until the past couple of days, which is why I had you bring me another thing of it. And um, I'm gonna do it again tonight because it really did help. But your supplements, you study them so much that you've kind of like, you're like a chemist.

• 48:36Speaker 02

  I try to be.

• 48:37Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Well, you know, if you buy your supplements on Amazon, you have no idea or offline of that some things, what you're getting. And there's been multiple lawsuits on things being, you know, right, things in supplements, thinking you're getting a magnesium. You're actually just getting rice powder or Viagra, which is what happened in February with several companies out there. It was Viagra in it. And not, which is a big deal. The FDA got involved. Yeah, the now brand, N O W brand. Um, it had nothing to do with them. It was an adulterer. So they ordered you, they, you, you order your supplements off of there. You get it. It looks like it's now brand, but it was actually Viagra in it, which could kill someone.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  On that one, but you know, and then many of them were rice. So, so there's been a count after a count. Fake and adulterated supplements on Amazon. You don't ever want to buy, you can buy my book all day on Amazon if you're gonna do that.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Right? That's right. So, but anything you're gonna put in your body, do not, do not, do not. So yes, I do a tremendous amount of research in their nutraceuticals, but magnesium itself has over six hundred enzymatic pathways in your body. It, your body needs magnesium desperately. We're so deficient in magnesium. We don't have it in the soil anymore, but it. Well, it will calm your heart down, your heart palpitations, your high blood pressure, anxiety, eighty percent of depressed patients, the research shows, may have a magnesium deficiency, constipation, restless legs. I mean, the list goes on and on and on for the beauty of the power

• 50:16Speaker 02

  of magnesium. But the night you took that to Lax Max, you texted me. It was so funny because I think I was out with the kids or something.

• 50:23Bunnie XO?

  I'm always bothering Danny.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  And I got this message from you and I was laughing so hard because you were like, literally, I can't remember. I mean, I'd have to go back and find it, but it was, it was, it does work. And it's one of those things that works in about five minutes.

• 50:35Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  Um, and so when you can bring that anxiety level down or that, that fight or flight level down, then your body starts to, you know, calm down.

• 50:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  You're not in that, you're not in that parasympathetic, or sympathetic, I'm sorry.

• 50:53Bunnie XO?

  If people wanted to check out your supplements, where would they go?

• 50:57Speaker 02

  Absolutely. Well, they can come to, come to the store, which is fabulous, Wild and Well at, on Mallory Station Road, or they can go online, dannywilliamson.com. And it's 24/7. We have our own Shopify. We now fulfill out of the store, which is a big financial decision for me. And so we ship out all over the country. I don't know how people find out about us, but I'm growing that business and that's, that's great.

• 51:19Bunnie XO?

  She's, she's worth it though, guys. I promise you, check out her supplements. I mean,

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you.

• 51:24Bunnie XO?

  Ever since.

• 51:25Speaker 02

  I handpick every single item in there. And I have a great team with me. I've got great girls who also come in and say, hey, you know what, Bunny was, or I mean, not, you've never done this, but you know, Bunny came in and she had this product and she wants to see if we could get something that we know, whatever. So we do a lot of research and we bring in a lot of things that patients or just customers bring in.

• 51:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  And say, hey, would you get this for us? We want to support local and we want to support a woman-owned business.

• 51:51Bunnie XO?

  And I'm all for it. I'm for all of it.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  And I don't take that for granted, right? When people come to that store and spend out of their left hip pocket because you can go anywhere.

• 52:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Uh, protein, you wanted to touch on protein.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  I have been starting my day, I, I missed the boat on protein.

• 52:08Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  I'm 57 years old.

• 52:10Bunnie XO?

  I didn't hop on, I didn't hop on until two years ago.

• 52:13Speaker 02

  I did not realize until just not too long ago, how important starting your day with protein is. And I'm all about fasting. I think fasting is fantastic. We eat way too much. I've been starting my day.

• 52:25Bunnie XO?

  We'll talk about fasting next, for sure.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  With our, um, With our pure paleo protein shake, it's got, anyway, the whole thing put together is forty grams of protein.

• 52:33Bunnie XO?

  Wow, I need this.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Girl, I, now, it's a beef protein.

• 52:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh.

• 52:37Speaker 02

  Beef, it's, it's, it's a collagen protein. So it's a, it's a, I'm, I'm sorry, it's a bone broth.

• 52:42Bunnie XO?

  Does it taste beefy?

• 52:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 52:44Bunnie XO?

  Oh, if it doesn't taste beefy, then maybe.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 52:47Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  And I put a scoop of collagen in it. Anyway, I've got a whole recipe for it. I just shared it on Instagram. But it's forty grams of protein. I cannot tell you the last month how much better I feel. And I felt good anyway, but just sustained energy. I think as we age especially, we, we lose protein. I mean, our, our muscle mass decreases every year. You need protein. And I need about a hundred and thirty grams of protein a day. Well, that's not easy.

• 53:16Bunnie XO?

  Yep, I eat a hundred and thirty-five grams of protein.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  And I don't know how you do it, quite frankly.

• 53:20Bunnie XO?

  Lots of chicken and fish.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and you have to, and, and, and it is the key. And so that may be something easy for patients to, or for people who are listening, say, well, you know, I can't. Well, increase your protein level. And get a free protein calculator online. You can also calculate online how much you need. And it, it's key, it's key for muscle, right? For sarcopenia, muscle wasting. It's key for energy, it's key for depression, it's key for proper weight control. I mean, protein, I, I, I'm sad that I missed the boat on that.

• 53:53Bunnie XO?

  I can honestly say, since I have improved my macros and I've upped my protein and I've also upped my fats and my carbs. My depression, like when I first came to you, remember, I had gone through the, I had just gone through that suicidal ideation thing. And I was just so depressed and it was so bad. And so now my depression is, you know, at bay. I never want to say that it's gone because we always know that at the flip of a switch, it can come. Um, but, you know, I, I do still suffer from anxiety, but. Since I have been eating better, my depression has definitely been at bay. And it it really truly does work, like protein, carbs, fats, good fats. When I say fats, I mean like avocados, you know, coconut oil, like good fats.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  The gut and the brain are one hundred percent connected.

• 54:42Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  The gut-brain axis. If the gut is on fire, the brain is on fire.

• 54:46Bunnie XO?

  I always say, uh, the gut is your first brain.

• 54:49Speaker 02

  You bet it is.

• 54:50Bunnie XO?

  Because if you're you're not eating good, your body's not gonna feel good. Your brain's not gonna feel good.

• 54:56Speaker 02

  No, and up to eighty percent of all the serotonin in the entire body

• 55:00Bunnie XO?

  Is me.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  is in the br- is in the gut. It's in the small intestine. So it's not in the brain. So when the gut's on fire, so are the symptoms of anxiety, depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, ADD, ADHD, OCD, trichotillomania, where you pull your eyelashes out and pull your eyebrows out and all that. Every single bit of that is worse when the gut is on fire.

• 55:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  Leaky gut, right? Leaky gut, leaky brain. You heal the gut, you begin to heal those symptoms. I'm proof of it. So are you.

• 55:31Bunnie XO?

  Healing the gut is easily as is as easy as changing your diet too, correct?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 55:36Bunnie XO?

  Or is there so many other things that you would need to do to heal your gut?

• 55:39Speaker 02

  Well, you have to change.

• 55:40Bunnie XO?

  Depends on, is it per person?

• 55:41Speaker 02

  With the diet, right? So you got a leaky gut. This is one big tube from the mouth to the anus.

• 55:46Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  Right?

• 55:47Bunnie XO?

  Mm-hmm.

• 55:47Speaker 02

  One big tube, mouth to anus, and it should be tight. And then the older we get and all the things and stress causes it and trauma and bad diet and all of that, you start to weaken those those tight junctions and and it's called leaky gut. So then you get inflammation, you get gluten and things into the bloodstream and that creates the inflammation, right? The joint pain, the anxiety, the depression. So you have to change the diet, but then you may need a couple of supplements, right? Some L-glutamine, which literally spackles the gut back together, maybe a probiotic, some digestive enzymes. So, yes, changing the gut will will help about. I don't know, eighty, ninety percent of it. But then you have to manage the stress. Then you have to deal with the trauma, right? You also have to sleep well.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  If you're not sleeping at night, you'll never get the body healed. Right?

• 56:36Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 56:36Speaker 02

  I mean, I think sleep and diet are literally side by side.

• 56:40Bunnie XO?

  Hand in hand. How many hours of sleep should somebody get?

• 56:43Speaker 02

  Everybody's different, but I need about seven to eight hours of sleep a night. And I don't think anybody can make it on less than six, huh?

• 56:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I can only do six. I can get five or six a night. It's crazy because my body is just timed to wake up like at six hours.

• 56:59Speaker 02

  But do you sleep solid or do you wake up in the night?

• 57:02Bunnie XO?

  Sometimes, it depends. It depends like, you know, what's going on. There are some nights that I sleep super solid and there's some nights that like I'll wake up if I turn, but then I go right back to sleep.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I go right back to sleep as well. A lot of times not enough protein during the day. Excuse me, will create that waking up in the night because your blood sugar is going to drop. It's protein that keeps your blood sugar stable during the day.

• 57:23Bunnie XO?

  Cortisol, though.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. Well, when your blood sugar drops at night.

• 57:26Bunnie XO?

  That's my problem.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  When your blood sugar drops at night between two and four in the morning, your cortisol levels have to raise.

• 57:32Bunnie XO?

  That's every time I have my episodes is in between two and four AM.

• 57:35Speaker 02

  Yes, it is. And most of the time, that's not enough protein closer to bedtime or during the day.

• 57:41Bunnie XO?

  How much more do I need? I need a hundred and thirty-five damn grams.

• 57:44Speaker 02

  A little something, a little handful of nuts or something. I mean, it could be any, any little protein.

• 57:48Bunnie XO?

  Son of a bitch, I feel like all I do is eat.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  I know, I know. But look at you, but I mean, you're burning it, you're doing it. But you're, you're balancing out the macros and you're getting everything in order. But again, you will have less and less symptoms. People expect to feel better, boom, right now, right now.

• 58:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, no, it's a process.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Anybody who's listening, just know this is a journey. This is a lifestyle. This is a marathon.

• 58:13Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  It's not a sprint.

• 58:15Bunnie XO?

  I am almost ninety days in on changing my diet and I'm still not fully back to where I was in December, but I'm on my way. So I don't know if that can help people gauge like what's going on. Like you have to have patience. You have to have grace with yourself.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Grace.

• 58:32Bunnie XO?

  Like literally.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  The grace that you would give Bailey, right? And the grace that you would give Mimi over something or Jay. Give yourself the same grace. We don't do that, we're so hard on ourselves.

• 58:43Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, for sure. For sure. So, moving on, I just read a book called How to Fast Like a Girl, Dr. Mindy Pels. I talked about it on my TikTok. Um, I'm obsessed with fasting right now. Like, it is like a new discovery for me. Like, I've always known about intermittent fasting, but after I read that book, I, you know, the body can heal so much just from fasting. What are your thoughts on fasting?

• 59:08Speaker 02

  I'm not a fasting expert, so I'm just gonna tell you right now, you probably know more about fasting than me. But what I do know is we probably don't fast enough. We eat too much. What I, and I have the book, remember? Cause you sent me a picture and I, or you, no, you told me you were reading it. And I said, look right here, it's on my nightstand, but I haven't even started it yet. But,

• 59:28Bunnie XO?

  It's a great read.

• 59:28Speaker 02

  Breakfast means break the fast, right? So, I don't know, what does she say in there? Does she say, I mean, I generally naturally fast anyway, about 14 hours. It just, that's how it happens for me.

• 59:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I try to do that too. I try to stop eating at like six or seven at night and then I won't eat again until like 10, 11, or 12.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 59:47Bunnie XO?

  Um, the next day. It just depends on how long I want to fast. But then she also has these, um, like, uh, protocols that you can follow that like if you want to do like a dopamine, uh, fast, you can fast for 48 hours and she tells you how to do that. And like, you can literally start, your body hits autophagy after 17 hours, I believe, of fasting.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  16, 17, somewhere around there.

• 1:00:08Bunnie XO?

  It's so fascinating. You guys have to read this book, but your body starts healing cells. Like, I've been preaching this to, to Mimi. I'm like, you gotta read, you gotta do this, you gotta start fasting. But like, you can literally heal yourself from PCOS. You can heal yourself from autoimmune diseases. You can heal yourself from so many things just from fasting. So, are you ready to answer some questions?

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh. Yes, let me get a drink.

• 1:00:30Bunnie XO?

  Okay, so I asked everybody that was on my Patreon to write in some questions and boy, you guys delivered. Um, so we're gonna try to answer as many as we can without taxing Dani out.

• 1:00:45Bunnie XO?

  Um, the first one is, how do I get my libido back? I had my daughter five years ago and I haven't had a libido since Haven't had a libido since like I don't want it or feel like I could live without it. Okay, hold on, let me read that again.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Well, I, I understand it. I don't even think you have to read it again. Yeah, I listen to this all day.

• 1:01:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Every day. And of course, here I am wanting a man, right? It's like I've never had a problem with the libido. Um, but I hear it every day. I don't know how old this person is. Do they have ages on there?

• 1:01:19Bunnie XO?

  No, they didn't put an age.

• 1:01:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I hear it all the time. When was your sex drive the best? Cause I always ask every single patient, how's your, how's your libido? Um, most people say before it's terrible and it was great before I had children oftentimes. Well, here's the thing. I mean, you know,

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  You have to date your partner again. If you're, if it's a woman or a man or whatever, You've got to date them again.

• 1:01:46Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  It's key, right? You may love them, but you don't like them. And if a woman doesn't like her partner, She's not going to have sex with him. I mean, a man will, will screw you all day long, down the hallway, All the way to the bedroom, fighting, right? In the kitchen and then still want to have sex, but women are different. We're, we're emotionally wired differently. So you do need to date them. If you've, you've got a five-year-old daughter, now I'm a big believer in God first, Husband, partner first, children third.

• 1:02:17Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Most of the time, we put these kids in front of our spouse, in front of our God, And that's not how it should be. So we gotta get that order right. Um, you know, and you gotta spend time together and you gotta date him again. You've got to date him again. You need to sext him, right? You need to tell him, you know, come home, unzip your pants, Dude, I'm gonna rock your world tonight or whatever. And if he's working at home, get up there and do whatever you need to do while he's on his Zoom call And, um, rock his world. I mean, go back to how it was when you were dating.

• 1:02:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  It's key. And we don't do that. We get involved. I know I've had two little kids And I know what it's like to be crazy, but I am telling you, You've got to put them, but men are real simple. They want good food. Good sex and they want to protect you.

• 1:03:04Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:03:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  And you give them that and they're

• 1:03:06Bunnie XO?

  They want to feel needed.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  That's, that's exactly right. But you can also take some horny goat weed. Now, here's, here's the thing. If you're nursing, breastfeeding or nursing, you're not going to do any of this.

• 1:03:17Bunnie XO?

  Could it be hormonal also?

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  It could be hormonal. So you can get your hormones checked. Now, we can't give you testosterone, right? If you can get pregnant, I'm not going to give you testosterone because God forbid. You know, we don't give testosterone to a woman as a rule, who, who could get pregnant. It could hurt the baby and things like that. But you could take DHEA, you could take horny goat weed, you could take, um, um. I mean, there's a million different things that you can take to, to help your hormones work better. We can look at your hormones. We can give you some progesterone. Maybe you need a little bit of estrogen. I mean, it depends on your age. But the bottom line is you got to reconnect with him and you got to talk. I, I know what it's like to be in a marriage to where nobody's talking.

• 1:04:02Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:04:03Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  And you married him for a reason.

• 1:04:05Bunnie XO?

  All the time because you know, people are busy, people are working. So it's like, you know, like you said, people have got to make time for each other.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  They've got to make time for each other. And I am telling you, I know I had an affair on my husband. If you're not getting what you need at home, they're going to get it somewhere.

• 1:04:22Bunnie XO?

  Oh, yeah. And that, I mean, both ways.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  It works both ways. It works both ways. And women look at me every day and, and they're like, and then they start crying, right? And I don't feel like myself, my body doesn't look like it used to. He doesn't care. If he's wanting to have sex with you and spend time with you, and I'm telling you. I challenge my patients and say, give me, give me 15 to 30 days of sex every day. I don't care if it's a blowjob. I don't care if it's a quickie. I don't care what it is. Give me 30 days of having sex with your man.

• 1:04:52Bunnie XO?

  Oh, and just kind of like resparking that.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  They respark it and they love it. Nobody has ever complained about an orgasm, ever. Has anyone ever said, I wish I hadn't had that orgasm?

• 1:05:02Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  No. And so, you know, it just get back to where you were. Work on it. It takes work. It's just like healing your body, Bunny. Just like healing your gut.

• 1:05:13Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely. All right. Next question. Her name is Candace.

• 1:05:19Bunnie XO?

  She said, hi, I'm Candace. I'm thirty one. Look younger, but feel older. However, I'm getting spider veins on part of my legs. My maternal grandmother has them bad. So I was curious as to what can I use, if anything, to help those bad boys be gone? And are there any methods to work on your thyroid? Mine fluctuates so bad.

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  Oh, that, okay. So that's two.

• 1:05:42Bunnie XO?

  That's two questions, Candace.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  Two questions. So the spider vein one, I don't know enough about. I think Butcher's broom, what the heck is the name of that supplement? There's a.

• 1:05:50Bunnie XO?

  She's like, I don't know enough about it, but Butcher's broom.

• 1:05:53Speaker 02

  I think so. And I don't know if it's even the name of it, but something Butcher's broom. Whatever. See, a vascular surgeon. If you have spider veins.

• 1:06:01Bunnie XO?

  Can't they laser them now?

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  They can laser them. So you can have, and it doesn't even have to be a vascular, maybe a plastic surgeon, but a vascular surgeon with veins, always, right? Vascular veins is who I would go to before I'd go to just some, anybody.

• 1:06:13Bunnie XO?

  Let anybody start lasering away.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. And you know, I mean, there's a lot today. If you've had children, I've got spider veins as well. If you worked on your feet for decades and things like that.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  Inflammation.

• 1:06:26Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Inflammation is the root of all of that. So I can't remember. There is a supplement. I'm sorry. I can't remember that, Candace.

• 1:06:32Bunnie XO?

  You're good.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  Thyroid.

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  What'd she say? Her thyroid's not working, right?

• 1:06:37Bunnie XO?

  Said, she said, uh, my, my, my thyroid fluctuates so bad. Now that I'm getting older, I am starting to see a lot of body changes that are more permanent. Physically, it takes a toll. Most days I'm feeling like I'm reaching early menopause. Hot flashes, galore.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Oh, Lord. Okay. That's like forty two questions all in one. But, but that's my patient, right? That comes in with every list. So the thyroid, ladies and gentlemen, is the master gland in the body, the master organ. It controls one hundred percent of the metabolic function in your body, one hundred percent. How fast you gain weight, how fast you lose weight, your cholesterol, your fertility, your hair loss, your hair growth, all of it, your weight gain, your weight loss. It controls everything. So you have to protect it. It needs to be optimal. Um, I don't know what that means. It's fluctuating. I don't know if it's going between hypo and hyper. So too little thyroid hormones. So you're sluggish. You just want to lay back and sleep all the time, gained weight, all that. Can't poop or hyper, right?

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  So again, you want to protect your thyroid. Don't put anything on your thyroid. No perfume. No, you know, anything like that, no lotion, no makeup, anything down here. And things that help the thyroid function better. But again, you have to ask your provider because I don't know your own health history. Things like ashwagandha helps the thyroid function better.

• 1:08:00Bunnie XO?

  I took ashwagandha one time and it fucking made me, it put me in a spiral.

• 1:08:04Speaker 02

  See, but for me, it's amazing for me. I love ashwagandha. It's an amazing adaptogen. But that's why you always got to do your research and ask your provider, although your provider is going to go, what? Ashwagandha what? So, so the thyroid again is, is tricky and you want your thyroid levels to be optimal. If you're taking thyroid medicine, and maybe she is, you have to take it the same time every day, four hours away from food, like calcium, magnesium, iron, soy. That's key right there. If she's on thyroid medicine and taking it, she may be taking it wrong and that's why it's doing this. So, look up how to take your thyroid medicine. But the thyroid is, is the master gland, but also controls your hormones.

• 1:08:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  So if she's feeling like she's having changes that are permanent.

• 1:08:49Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  And her, but nothing's permanent, by the way, what death and.

• 1:08:52Bunnie XO?

  Can you go through early menopause that early in the, in thirties?

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  You can. It's premature, premature menopause, a premature ovarian failure.

• 1:09:01Bunnie XO?

  I'm trying my hardest to stay away from that, that guy.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Oh, let me tell you, menopause is a whole nother journey. It took two years for me to get through it. I was a raging lunatic and, and, and I was pretty well balanced going through menopause, but I feel like the women who go through menopause the best and with the least trauma in their life are the ones who have less inflammation in their body.

• 1:09:23Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  An inflamed woman going through menopause is going to be one mad woman.

• 1:09:29Bunnie XO?

  Mad cow disease.

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  You bet. Yeah, yes, yes. And, and hot flashes and all of that. So, it's all connected. Your hormones, your thyroid, your adrenals, all of that is connected.

• 1:09:41Bunnie XO?

  I'm just so thankful to be a woman. We all have to go through this shit.

• 1:09:45Speaker 02

  We do. And I'm gonna tell you something. Menopause is a rite of passage. It is an honor and it is a privilege to go through menopause. It is denied by many women. They die first.

• 1:09:57Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  They die before they ever live long enough to transition to this whole next season of life. That is unbelievable. You get to be the crazy post-menopausal woman who doesn't care what she says, doesn't care what she did, nothing. So it is an honor and a privilege to go through menopause. Always remember that. It's hard to remember that when you're in the throes of hot flashes and you're taking your clothes off and your, your, your, your hair's falling out and your skin is getting dry and your vagina's drying up.

• 1:10:27Bunnie XO?

  Oh, not the vagina.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  All the things. Vaginas dry up during menopause. So that's estrogen that keeps your vagina.

• 1:10:33Bunnie XO?

  Do they get wet again?

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  It, it will if you find a good hormone person who can help you get your, your, but help you get your estrogen back in your vagina. Estrogen and hormones do not cause cancer. Always know that ladies. They don't cause cancer. Now they, there are estrogen-based hormones. Yeah, I mean cancers and their estrogen or progesterone-based cancers. But if hormones cause cancer, then Bailey, right there, Mimi, would all have cancer. They're young women. They're pregnant women, or they're not pregnant now, but I mean, you know what I mean.

• 1:11:08Bunnie XO?

  Better not be.

• 1:11:08Speaker 02

  Pregnant women, the hormones are through the roof, right? Young girls, hormones are through the roof. Well, that's when their estrogen and progesterone levels are the highest. Their skin looks great, their boobs are up to here, right? Their bones are strong, their brain's on fire. Who gets cancer? My age women with no hormones. That's who gets your breast cancer for the most part, right? And your ovarian cancer.

• 1:11:31Bunnie XO?

  That's profound. I never thought of it that way.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  Well, think of it that way. That's why I'm here, right? So, no, seriously. And so, but, so go through, use your hormones when you're going through menopause and perimenopause.

• 1:11:42Bunnie XO?

  Oh, you're gonna be helping me, Dani, so. I said, you're gonna be helping me, so.

• 1:11:46Speaker 02

  Well, it's a journey. That's the hardest thing to treat is menopause.

• 1:11:49Bunnie XO?

  You think I text you a lot now, wait till I'm going through menopause.

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  Lord, I'll be an old lady then, because you'll be, oh yeah, I'll be about sixty-eight, sixty-nine.

• 1:11:56Bunnie XO?

  Fuck my life.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  I'll be sixty-nine and still rocking it.

• 1:11:59Bunnie XO?

  There you go, baby. Still looking beautiful. All right, next question. Um, she said, hi, love you, by the way. I had neck surgery a year and a half ago. Since then, I cannot come. I can get there just before it locks my neck up. It's so painful. I don't know how else to describe it. I'm having two more neck surgeries in August. They're gonna remove a vertebrae from the front that's compressed my spinal cord and nerve damage and two days later, they're going through the back and fix to fix an existing fusion and fuse everything and put a cage around it.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  Oh dear.

• 1:12:35Bunnie XO?

  Any tips or advice on sexy time or what you think would help would be appreciated. Only thing that helped is mushrooms, but unfortunately, they are very hard to come by.

• 1:12:46Bunnie XO?

  That sounds more like trauma if mushrooms.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  That's a hard one.

• 1:12:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it might be trauma, though. If the mushrooms helped her on that.

• 1:12:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:59Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  Well, and see, there's every nerve.

• 1:13:02Bunnie XO?

  Um, in the, um, on Patreon, so just start screenshotting those for me.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  Those nerves run down from that neck all the way down the spinal cord, right? So that's gonna control part of the pelvis area. Now, I am no neurosurgeon.

• 1:13:16Bunnie XO?

  You're like me.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  What in the world? But you gotta think about that, the inflammation around the neck, right? Where she's had the surgery.

• 1:13:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  So something's probably, some of those pathways must be blocked up. I mean, it also could be fear, right? Fear from, I mean, it's like people who have a heart attack.

• 1:13:35Bunnie XO?

  From surgery.

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  Who, who don't ever, uh huh, who, who have a heart attack and don't want to have sex again, because when they do have an orgasm, right, they're scared to death they're gonna have a heart attack again. So it could, I mean, I don't know that answer, but I would work, I would go back to common sense and inflammation. Do everything in your power to decrease the inflammatory response in your body. Because now she's gonna have more surgeries that next.

• 1:13:58Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I think it sounds to me like it might be PTSD and trauma because the mushrooms did help her and we can keep this question in.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so I think a counselor, therapist.

• 1:14:08Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  And I don't know enough about mushrooms. I always wanted to do.

• 1:14:12Bunnie XO?

  I don't either. They didn't do good with me, so.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  I heard you talk about that on your podcast.

• 1:14:16Bunnie XO?

  I can't preach about it.

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  I'd never done it.

• 1:14:20Bunnie XO?

  Mimi loves them. Mimi likes to feel like her face is melting off. And I'm like, I just say, I'm too much of a control freak and I want to get off the ride when I want to get off of it, you know?

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, you and me both. I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I'd like it or not.

• 1:14:33Bunnie XO?

  Hi, I'm diabetic and an ex junkie. I was just told I have stage three kidney disease. I know it's not curable, but is there any way to slow it down?

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure. Okay, so if she, if you drink any sort of soda, anything, Diet Coke, Coke, anything, does not matter, that's got a high sugar content in it, or you got to stop that immediately. I would stop all alcohol. I would increase the, I would drink water and that's pretty much it, right? With kidneys. I mean, caffeine's going to be hard on the kidneys. My mom is stage three kidney as well. So it's, you've got to push the water every day.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  And you don't really take much magnesium either. Magnesium affects the kidney. That's about the only thing, the only contraindication with magnesium would be kidneys, kidney disease. Just in case you know, yeah, didn't know that. But really, honestly, pushing, pushing the water, exercise, eating well, changing your diet, decreasing the inflammatory response. I mean, it's, it's, it's key for that. And I've got several patients with chronic kidney disease. And no, you don't reverse it so much, but you can keep it at bay.

• 1:15:45Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:15:46Speaker 02

  You can live with it for the rest of your life without getting worse. But you've got to clean the diet up and you have to drink water.

• 1:15:53Bunnie XO?

  I think that's literally the root of everything. Like the beginning of any of these questions, the first thing is, is diet change.

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  That's exactly right.

• 1:16:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. And again, it's real simple, but it's not easy. I mean, and it's hard. It's hard when you go to the grocery and you buy the same thing every week, right?

• 1:16:11Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  And we are designed to eat hundreds of foods. Do you know that the average American only eats about, I think it's 12 to 15 different foods? That's it. And we cook our kids the same five or six meals their entire life. We We are designed for diversity. There are hundreds of foods out there.

• 1:16:30Bunnie XO?

  Absolutely.

• 1:16:30Speaker 02

  Go eat a rutabaga.

• 1:16:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  A dacon radish, right? A parsnip, a fennel. I mean, people look at me now, artichoke, I, I am fine if you never ever cook an artichoke again. I cooked one my entire life. No, I love artichokes. No, I love artichokes. I cooked one. It took me half a damn day to cook an artichoke. And I'm like, I'm not ever cook. I'll pay brick top.

• 1:16:51Bunnie XO?

  Boil it.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  Fifteen dollars.

• 1:16:52Bunnie XO?

  I'll teach you how to make them. Yeah, I boil them.

• 1:16:55Speaker 02

  You boil your artichoke?

• 1:16:56Bunnie XO?

  Oh, so good. You boil it and just put a lid on it, boil it for like twenty minutes and then, oh, it's so good.

• 1:17:05Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:17:05Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:06Speaker 02

  I just learned something.

• 1:17:07Bunnie XO?

  Oh, it's so good.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm going to buy the artichokes.

• 1:17:09Bunnie XO?

  You use like a vegan mayo and like garlic and mix it all together and just dip it in there.

• 1:17:14Speaker 02

  You just boil it and pull it off like you would a norm. No, you had to do all this crazy stuff to it.

• 1:17:21Bunnie XO?

  Yep. Now, you might be wanting a roasted one.

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  I roasted it. So I boiled it, then had to roast it. You cut it and have, you do all the mess, all the stuff.

• 1:17:30Bunnie XO?

  No.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  All right.

• 1:17:31Bunnie XO?

  I would think that boiling it and then putting it in the broiler maybe would probably speed it up and give you that crispiness that you're looking for. But I love them boiled because there's so much, they're meatier. Whereas when they're roasted, it's like a little bit drier. Yeah, we totally got off subject here, but.

• 1:17:46Speaker 02

  But again, but again, that's a one ingredient food.

• 1:17:50Bunnie XO?

  Exactly.

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  So back to the kidney disease.

• 1:17:52Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:52Speaker 02

  Bring it, bring it on home to the basics.

• 1:17:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  One ingredient food, nothing processed, packaged, bagged, canned, fake food. Man, your kidneys are a big deal.

• 1:18:01Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:01Speaker 02

  You gotta have your kidneys to filter out all the toxins and.

• 1:18:05Bunnie XO?

  Is there a correlation between blood sugar and kidneys? Because sometimes when my blood sugar feels like it's spiking, my, my back hurts. Like my, it feels like my kidneys hurt sometimes.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  Well, maybe, but you also know what's in your back, back there. Your, on top of your kidneys, sit two little walnut glands. The adrenal glands.

• 1:18:25Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  They literally sit on top of it and that's your cortisol.

• 1:18:28Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:18:28Speaker 02

  So I wonder if it's your cortisol, your adrenals. They literally sit right on top.

• 1:18:34Bunnie XO?

  I love it. I love. Moment.

• 1:18:37Bunnie XO?

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:18:39Bunnie XO?

  I I turn into an old Jewish man when I when I figure something out.

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  I don't think it's your kidneys. I think it's your adrenals.

• 1:18:45Bunnie XO?

  Ah, well, we're gonna we'll.

• 1:18:47Speaker 05

  I heard you say a second ago, clean water. What did you mean by that?

• 1:18:50Speaker 02

  Well, not tap water for the most part, even here in Williamson County, right? Our waters.

• 1:18:55Speaker 05

  Suggest like a certain type of water?

• 1:18:56Speaker 02

  Just.

• 1:18:56Speaker 05

  She was having an issue with the fact that she started drinking. What was that?

• 1:18:59Bunnie XO?

  I had the water that had the electrolytes in it. I forget the name. Essentia water. Yeah. And it it was that. But that's when I was going through all my shit in January. It might be fine now. But I would thought it was the water at first.

• 1:19:11Speaker 05

  You suggest like a water?

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  I like, well, I like just clean water and putting like I personally have a whole house filter that was a Christmas gift from my office for me one year. And so that has been a game changer for me. And then you just put some trace minerals in it, like literally a bottle of trace of minerals like selenium and iodine. And you know, all the magnesium and all the things, potassium and all that in it and put your minerals back in it. I'm not a fan.

• 1:19:40Bunnie XO?

  Shower in that water too?

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. So see, that's the beauty of having a whole house filter, which is not crazy. It's it's I could have never afforded this before, but it was a couple thousand dollars. It's not like 10,000 or anything like that, but it's not cheap. Yes, you shower in it. So it's interesting that you said that. We drink this clean water. We try to buy clean water, right? And then yet we shower in this toxic water. We bathe in toxic water. We wash our clothes in toxic water. We our dishes and all that in toxic water. And I'm telling you, water's a big deal. We could talk about water for hours.

• 1:20:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:13Speaker 02

  There's birth control pills in water. You bet I do. There's Xanax in water. There's antidepressants in water, all in this water system here. I mean, it's and we took the lithium out of the water, right? And the lithium's with the best part of the water, and that's part of your trace minerals. Lithium, the the the the the cities who have lithium in their water have less suicide, less homicide, less murder, all the things. Because lithium is an incredible mineral.

• 1:20:40Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  That um. Is phenomenal for mental health. Seven Up had a high content of lithium in it when it first came out.

• 1:20:47Bunnie XO?

  When I was going through that suicidal ideation, I had found there was um a supplement. I forget, it's lithium.

• 1:20:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:55Bunnie XO?

  But it's not like the lithium that they give you in the middle hospital.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  Low dose lithium.

• 1:20:59Bunnie XO?

  It's like, I forget the name of it, but so many just wonderful reviews about this supplement.

• 1:21:05Speaker 02

  It works. I have my daughter on it. Um, my mother should have been on it the whole time I was growing up.

• 1:21:11Bunnie XO?

  Slipper starts slipping or some of it now. I'm just kidding.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:16Bunnie XO?

  Next question. How can I reduce cortisol so I don't wake up at 3 a.m.?

• 1:21:20Speaker 02

  Well, there you go. Start, first thing you're gonna do is you're gonna start off eating some protein. More protein. Start counting your protein grams. See how much you need and eat some protein right before bed at night. So you don't wake up between two and four in the morning, right? Because remember, when protein drops, I mean, I'm sorry, when your blood sugar drops in the night, your cortisol has to rise. You're gonna wake up or you're gonna be in a diabetic coma. But you have to change your diet, right? You have to get enough sleep. You need gentle exercise, not crazy hardcore exercise. Cause that's gonna raise your cortisol and then drop it back down.

• 1:21:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  This is why we're trying to heal our adrenals. And then you're gonna take some supplements like, well, ideally ashwagandha and holy basil.

• 1:22:04Bunnie XO?

  And everybody's body.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  And everyone's different.

• 1:22:07Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, everybody's body is different. So don't listen to me, cause I'm like, if I can just a one off, like if anything can go wrong, I'm that point five percent.

• 1:22:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. So adrenal supports like ashwagandha, holy basil, rhodiola, a lutheracoccus, ginseng. Those are adrenal adaptogens that help your adrenals and your body adapt to situations. And B5 and B6, a B complex.

• 1:22:30Bunnie XO?

  Methylated?

• 1:22:31Speaker 02

  You bet, methylated, because people, I assume everyone has an MTHFR mutation, which is a, a methylation. Um, uh, mutation in your body, MTHFR, where you don't process B vitamins properly.

• 1:22:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:44Speaker 02

  And B12.

• 1:22:45Bunnie XO?

  I'm gonna have a stroke.

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  B12 and folate.

• 1:22:48Bunnie XO?

  If they're not methylated and I take like B12 and a, and an IV.

• 1:22:51Bunnie XO?

  I literally feel like I'm gonna have a stroke, like my blood pressure skyrocket.

• 1:22:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can't process just the plainos, cyano, cabalamine, just the regular OB 12 or folic acid. You need methylfolate, methyl B 12. So B vitamins, a B complex, B five and six, those are the Bs of the adrenals. Vitamin C, we are the only mammals who don't make vitamin C, but we store it right there in those adrenal glands.

• 1:23:15Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  And when you're under a lot of stress, you're gonna burn through vitamin C like crazy. So vitamin C is also a major antioxidant. It mops up all the free radicals in your body. It also helps you poop, but it helps your adrenals. It's, it's, it's a very inexpensive supplement to take. So B five, B six, vitamin C, B, B complex, and some adrenal adaptogens. But you also have to manage the stress.

• 1:23:41Bunnie XO?

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• 1:24:42Speaker 02

  In your life, stress will kill you, right? You have to have a nighttime routine. The bed is for sleep and sex only. She said she's waking up at night, right? If you've got a TV, a computer, a cellphone, a wireless router in there, you've got the HVAC unit in there, you've got lights everywhere. Your circadian rhythm is going to be messed up. You're not going to be able to sleep deep in the night. So get all that out of the bed. And again, the bed is for sleep and sex only.

• 1:25:09Bunnie XO?

  Do you suggest not having like electronics in your room or yeah?

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  I don't have a TV in my room. My, my phone is in there and now it's not on airplane mode anymore because my mom. You know, things happen in the middle of the night and I have to be able to answer the phone. But as a rule, the phone should be on airplane mode, six feet away from you. Distance is your friend when it comes to electronic electromagnetic fields.

• 1:25:34Bunnie XO?

  Well.

• 1:25:35Speaker 02

  You also don't need to be sleeping on a Sleep Number bed. I hate to tell you that, but you're sleeping on a minefield.

• 1:25:40Bunnie XO?

  Oh, my God. That's what we have.

• 1:25:42Speaker 02

  It's nothing but electricity, girl.

• 1:25:44Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  Then I have, I have failed. I should have asked you that because, and I talk about it in the book, right? When that's plugged into that wall, that electrical current's coming out. It's going straight through your body.

• 1:25:57Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:25:57Speaker 02

  So I have a lot of patients, if they'll set the bed where they need it and then unplug it. Now, you've still got a current in there because there's all that going on, but you're not going to have the electrical current from that wall.

• 1:26:08Bunnie XO?

  Wow.

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:26:08Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  I'd try it. I'd try, I would try unplugging it and see what happens.

• 1:26:13Bunnie XO?

  See if it makes a difference.

• 1:26:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:15Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:16Speaker 02

  I just sleep on a straight up organic mattress.

• 1:26:18Bunnie XO?

  Wow. That's mind blowing. I need to definitely, my husband has to have a Sleep Number because he sleeps tilted up. So we thought we were doing a good thing.

• 1:26:27Speaker 02

  Well, and people do, and I have a.

• 1:26:29Bunnie XO?

  Tempur-Pedic beds as well, because they move.

• 1:26:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have two videos on YouTube with a very, a brilliant electrical engineer who all her entire career has been around making homes safe from electromagnetic fields. She's an electrical engineer. She's not funny. There's nothing funny about her. She's very serious like an engineer, but I have those two YouTube videos on there if you scroll back that are fascinating to watch. And she talks about 5G and she talks about the home. Making your bedroom has got to be a sanctuary.

• 1:27:00Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  It has to be. When you cross that threshold at night to get into your bedroom, it's got to be calming and peaceful.

• 1:27:07Bunnie XO?

  Can it cause health problems also?

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  You bet it can.

• 1:27:11Bunnie XO?

  God, I wonder if that's what's wrong with me now.

• 1:27:13Speaker 02

  No, don't say that.

• 1:27:15Bunnie XO?

  I'm like, shit. Oh, God. What do we do?

• 1:27:22Bunnie XO?

  Son of a bitch.

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  No, don't.

• 1:27:23Bunnie XO?

  No, I know.

• 1:27:24Speaker 02

  But no, but you know, we're, so you can't control this stuff. Like, we're sitting in front of all these electromagnetic fields right now.

• 1:27:30Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  Lights, right? These microphones, these computers and cell phones and all that. You can't control that.

• 1:27:36Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:27:36Speaker 02

  That's where you have to make sure your body's detoxing properly all day.

• 1:27:39Bunnie XO?

  How would you detox?

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  Well, you get your liver. Your liver's your major detoxification organ in your body. Well, you eat clean food. That's gonna be the first thing.

• 1:27:47Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:27:47Speaker 02

  Maybe do a 10-day detox every year or a couple times a year. Things like milk thistle. I mean, the liver, you just control it by not eating a lot of sugar.

• 1:27:57Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:58Speaker 02

  Fatty liver.

• 1:27:59Bunnie XO?

  Apple cider vinegar, right?

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  Apple cider vinegar is great as well. Milk thistle, calcium D, gluten, things that help the liver function better.

• 1:28:07Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:28:08Speaker 02

  Um, but again, it all boils down to inflammation.

• 1:28:11Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:28:11Speaker 02

  Okay? So, you can't control the electromagnetic fields that you're in all day, every day. But your bedroom has got to be a sanctuary so you can heal at night. When you sleep is when your entire body recharges.

• 1:28:25Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:28:26Speaker 02

  Right? And you should wake up feeling good. Doesn't mean you don't wake up tired, but good lord, you just slept.

• 1:28:31Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  All night. I mean, you don't just pop out of bed, most people. But, you know, you should feel good when you get up in the morning. If you don't feel rested, then that's something going on in your, in your house, some, or in your bedroom, something going on with stress.

• 1:28:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:46Speaker 02

  Maybe it's your adrenals.

• 1:28:47Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:28:49Bunnie XO?

  Well, I'm gonna go home and fucking throw everything away.

• 1:28:51Speaker 02

  Oh, good lord.

• 1:28:54Bunnie XO?

  Do you feel like answering any more questions?

• 1:28:56Speaker 02

  I can answer questions all day if I don't.

• 1:28:58Bunnie XO?

  This is a good one, because I heard you talk about this in your book too. Because I listened to the audiobook. Um, thoughts or recommendations on prebiotics and probiotics?

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely. Well, I've got lots of thoughts on that. Of course, I sell prebiotics and probiotics, you know? And there are a ton of fantastic ones out there that I don't sell.

• 1:29:16Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  But, yes, now, if you're going to, if you want to eat your prebiotics and your probiotics, that's always going to be better than anything that I could sell you, right?

• 1:29:27Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:29:27Speaker 02

  Because it's coming from food, prebiotics. Artichokes, green bananas, onions, um, anything that's uh, the cabbage, things like that. Those are prebiotic foods that are going to prepare the gut for the probiotics, right?

• 1:29:43Bunnie XO?

  And they have to go hand in hand? You can't just take one without the other?

• 1:29:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can take one or the other. I mean, I start a lot of people just on prebiotics initially that are really inflamed. And really full of inflammation. And I'm like, I don't even know if they could handle a probiotic.

• 1:29:56Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  Because what we know is that we have hundreds of billions of trillions of bacteria in our gut. There's more bacteria, probiotics, basically, in our gut than there are stars in the Milky Way. Controls eighty percent of your immune system, your gut, your gut. So we have to diversify what's in our gut. So your probiotic things, you know, like your kimchi, right? How many people eat kimchi every day? Not many.

• 1:30:26Bunnie XO?

  I love it.

• 1:30:26Speaker 02

  I love it too, but I don't eat it every day and I should. I got a big thing of it in the refrigerator.

• 1:30:30Bunnie XO?

  I do too. I don't eat it every day.

• 1:30:31Speaker 02

  I love that. What is it? Wild, wild brine, that kimchi, the one in the big thing. Kimchi, sauerkraut, apple cider vinegar, um, anything fermented. Yes, right. Those are going to be your probiotics that you're putting in. But a lot of people think yogurt's gonna do the trick. Yogurt, not so much, right? Cause it's dairy.

• 1:30:50Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:30:51Speaker 02

  And it's inflammatory. So prebiotics, yes, we, we sell great. We have it on our website.

• 1:30:56Bunnie XO?

  You actually brought up a great point about pre and probiotics. In your book, you said that, um, you know, you can go and buy these really expensive ones that have to be refrigerated. But if you can't swallow it and guarantee that, that, that, what were the exact words that you said?

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  Okay, the exact words are, if you go into the place and they say, you say, give me the best probiotic you got. Where are they gonna take you? Ninety percent of the time, they're gonna take you to the refrigerated section. Well, what the research shows, and it's clear on that, if your probiotic is so fragile that it can't handle the ambient air, right? Meaning just the regular air.

• 1:31:34Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:31:34Speaker 02

  That it is dead the second it hits your gut, right? Because it's ninety-eight-six in here.

• 1:31:39Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:39Speaker 02

  At least in there. It is dead. You simply have expensive poop.

• 1:31:44Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:44Speaker 02

  That's all there is to it. So you've got to make sure that your probiotic has a capsule on it, a patented capsule that that that lasts the transit time from the mouth to the anus, wherever it's supposed to release. Some probiotics release in the small intestine, some release in the colon, like bifidobacteria, which is a one that I love, um, true bifido, and it releases in the colon. So you got to make sure. Otherwise, you just have, again, you're just wasting your money.

• 1:32:13Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  You know, and the supplement industry is like, I mean, it's literally billions and billions, tens of billions of dollars. And there's a lot of, um, there's a lot of scam out there. You gotta have a lot of, a lot of integrity if you're gonna sell supplements because people are desperate. They'll buy any probiotic that I ask them to.

• 1:32:35Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:35Speaker 02

  Right? Um, and again, there's not one probiotic that works for everyone.

• 1:32:39Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:32:40Speaker 02

  So I have, I have probably twenty probiotics in that off, in my office. Not everyone works, not everyone works for every person. But one big key that people may not know, you need to rotate your probiotics a couple of times a year.

• 1:32:53Bunnie XO?

  Hmm.

• 1:32:53Speaker 02

  So because we're designed for diversity. You want, don't want the same lactobacillus or the same bifidobacteria in there over and over. You wanna mix it up.

• 1:33:02Bunnie XO?

  Yeah. I love that. All right, you wanna do one more question?

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure.

• 1:33:06Bunnie XO?

  I feel like we're, we're just getting so much knowledge. Yeah, where's that one at?

• 1:33:10Speaker 05

  It was like, it was like one of the last two I sent you. Cause that was like a huge representative question.

• 1:33:17Bunnie XO?

  Uh, there's just one that says help with PCOS. Literally.

• 1:33:23Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, so there's a lot of people, so there's a lot of people who have written in about PCOS.

• 1:33:28Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:33:29Bunnie XO?

  Um, what are your thoughts on beginning to try to even heal your body from PCOS?

• 1:33:36Bunnie XO?

  If, is it curable? Can you heal your body?

• 1:33:38Speaker 02

  I think so, because I don't think you're born with it.

• 1:33:41Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  You know, I think it's an insulin issue, which the studies are clear.

• 1:33:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:45Speaker 02

  It's an insulin resistance issue.

• 1:33:48Bunnie XO?

  Right.

• 1:33:48Speaker 02

  Which also affects your hormones drastically, right? So a lot of PCOS patients, some people you can tell immediately they have PCOS. The standard old school PCOS profile was a little heavier, overweight, most likely, thicker, hairy, maybe hair on the chin, thicker neck back here, a little hump on it, sometimes losing hair.

• 1:34:12Bunnie XO?

  The kid's feeling her neck right now, I don't even have to look.

• 1:34:18Speaker 02

  The huh?

• 1:34:21Speaker 02

  But then now you have also the skinny girl PCOS that we don't even pick up on, right? Unless we do labs on them. So PCOS, yes. So we start with diet, right? We gotta get the insulin, we gotta get the blood sugar in order over here. Again, with the protein, cutting out the sugar, things like that. Um, supplement wise, and again, you gotta eat well, sleep well, move well, poop well, de-stress well, commune well. Those are all things that contribute to infla- to, to PCOS markers. But things like anositol, one of my all time favorites for, does, I don't know, does anybody have PCOS? You don't have PCOS?

• 1:34:57Bunnie XO?

  Uh, Mimi does.

• 1:34:58Speaker 02

  Do you take anositol, Mimi? It's one of my favorite things for PCOS, B vitamin, but it, it helps regulate your hormones, but also helps with anxiety. It's in the Chilax Max.

• 1:35:10Bunnie XO?

  Is it?

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, tiny little bit.

• 1:35:11Bunnie XO?

  You need to start taking some of those Chilax Max, you'll love it.

• 1:35:13Speaker 02

  Chilax Max is, is incredible.

• 1:35:14Bunnie XO?

  I'll give you some of it tonight.

• 1:35:15Speaker 02

  Chasteberry, Vitex Chasteberry is, again, are you familiar with Chasteberry? It's, it's an herb, it's a berry, it's been around for thousands of years. Phenomenal for PCOS, for regulating periods, for PMS, irritability and sex drive. PC, uh, Chasteberry takes about two or three months to kick in, two or three cycles. It helps regulate your period because many women with PCOS have random periods.

• 1:35:43Speaker 05

  Oh my God, I just had four in two months.

• 1:35:45Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:45Speaker 02

  Four in two months.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  We need to get you started on chaise berry and some anastata and then a peony also works well, lemon balm works great. Um, I have a whole PCOS, PCOS, PCOS protocol actually on Instagram. Um, but again, it boils down to inflammation. A lot of women with PCOS have a hard time losing weight and they don't realize, you know, they cut their calories, they do this, but, but we've got to balance the insulin. Now, if I had PCOS, I would have a blood sugar monitor right here on my arm, um, every day, uh, like a glu- continue, do you have a continuous glucose monitor? I would have my doctor order one and I would think that insurance would probably pay for it. Um, and I would be monitoring my blood sugar every day. I'd be knowing what's causing those

• 1:36:32Speaker 02

  spikes because that's going to affect your hormones and maybe you need a little bit of progesterone.

• 1:36:36Bunnie XO?

  Diet for sure.

• 1:36:37Speaker 02

  Diet, diet is key with PCOS. It's got to be an anti-inflammatory. Sugar, gluten, dairy are going to be big ones for PCOS that you need to eliminate. But I watch women every day get their periods back in track. I had a patient just two weeks ago. She, she's now had 10 periods in a year. She has not had 10 periods. She has gone years without periods. Really?

• 1:37:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, I just went, well, that's right. Before I started, I went a year without a period. I hadn't had a period since last May and then it started end or beginning of April and I had one every other week.

• 1:37:16Speaker 02

  How old are you?

• 1:37:17Speaker 05

  Thirty-one.

• 1:37:18Speaker 02

  Thirty-one. So we gotta work on that. That's an inflammation.

• 1:37:21Bunnie XO?

  I've been trying to get her into you, Dani, for months now.

• 1:37:23Speaker 02

  That's an inflammation. Well, I'm gonna tell you, you know, I take very few new patients now and so, and here's the thing, you just gotta be willing to do the work. But she knows this.

• 1:37:32Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, that's why I didn't come back until I was ready to do the work.

• 1:37:34Speaker 02

  It's not easy. So PCOS, I mean, again, you know, there are women who have five babies and never know they had PCOS. There are women who have PCOS and can't get pregnant at all. You have two, right?

• 1:37:44Speaker 05

  Uh, it took us five years.

• 1:37:46Speaker 02

  Took you five years.

• 1:37:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, and then the minute I had her, we waited a little bit because I was like, that's a lot.

• 1:37:54Speaker 02

  Amen.

• 1:37:55Speaker 05

  Tried with the second one, it was two months, we had him.

• 1:37:57Speaker 02

  Wow. Okay, so your body's doing something, right?

• 1:38:02Speaker 05

  I feel like she uh kicked it in gear.

• 1:38:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, but PCOS, man, we can work with that. It's a clean diet, decreasing the inflammation, taking a few supplements. You don't need a ton. Things that are gonna regulate your hormones and help bring down the inflammation. And um, and I'm telling you, it works. It works. But again, we have an epidemic of PCOS right now because if fake processed foods are not helping any of us. But for sure, if you have something like PCOS going on or an autoimmune disease, and man, the quicker you clean it up, the the the better you're going to feel.

• 1:38:42Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I am living proof, ladies and gentlemen, whoever's listening, that you can turn around anything that you've turned on. Living proof. And I mean, I I I had a traumatic childhood. I didn't have the worst childhood. I certainly didn't have the best. You know, you've got to address the trauma. You've got to find a therapist, and there are ways to do that without costing an arm and a leg, although that's a real problem for me with mental health. I mean, a lot of it is so expensive and access is so limited. I know. But there are lots of sliding scale places. You've got to handle the trauma. You've got to clean up the diet, you know, and if you could just do one thing, just cut out those those foods, even if you cut one food out, I'd say start with sugar.

• 1:39:24Bunnie XO?

  Yes.

• 1:39:25Speaker 02

  Start with sugar.

• 1:39:26Bunnie XO?

  And that was the hardest one for me.

• 1:39:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, sugar is way harder than gluten for me. And but I think sugar would be the even harder.

• 1:39:33Bunnie XO?

  Cane sugar. That's what I I will not eat anything with cane sugar in it. Like coconut sugar, that there's different like so that you can like easily wean off of it. Like they have um, Ciate brand has these chips that are amazing. They're like cinnamon and they're like they have like coconut sugar on them.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  Churros or?

• 1:39:51Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, those. They're grain free. Yeah.

• 1:39:54Speaker 02

  Mexican or Hispanic.

• 1:39:55Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, those things are so good.

• 1:39:59Bunnie XO?

  Amazing.

• 1:40:02Speaker 02

  It's still processed, right? But there's few ingredients and I've eaten them, but I have a hard time stopping.

• 1:40:10Speaker 02

  Right, and consistency. One foot in front of the other. You're gonna start feeling better. You are very quickly and everyone falls off the wagon. I mean, there's, you're not perfect. Nobody's perfect. There was one perfect human and it's damned sure not you. Or me, or anybody listening, right? So, and to get right back on track. And then what you'll do is you'll cheat, you'll go out and eat a pizza, which has everything in it. The gluten, the dairy, the crap in it, all the things. And then you're gonna be sick as a dog, right?

• 1:40:42Bunnie XO?

  No, I did that. I actually ordered a pizza, I think, last month. And it was like, oh, just a margarita pizza with no marinara, just cheese and bread, but it was gluten free. And I still felt gross. Like, I was like, oh, I just felt so heavy and I was just like, it's not worth it.

• 1:40:56Speaker 02

  It's not worth it. And you know, you do like to cook. I am a huge, I love to cook. Cooking is self-care. Anybody who's listening and you think that you can out-supplement a bad diet, you are sadly mistaken. And I'm gonna tell you, if you're letting someone else cook for you, like fast food and restaurants, you will never get to where you need to be. And it's, and keep it real simple. I talk about this all the time. And I do a lot of cooking videos on Instagram. Wednesdays are dinners with Danny. So, it's just one ingredient food. Olive oil, salt and pepper will make most everything taste great. You can chop up a Brussels sprout, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, roast it. I mean, it's so stinking simple.

• 1:41:40Speaker 02

  Don't overcomplicate it, but always remember cooking is self-care. And you can reverse anything. And man, when you do, I mean, you change the entire trajectory. Do you know this? You're changing Bailey's trajectory of her life. You don't wanna listen to it. I get it, you know, and all, but.

• 1:42:00Bunnie XO?

  She hates when I tell her what to eat.

• 1:42:01Speaker 02

  Everything that you're learning, she, everything that you're doing, she's picking up on. And we have the chance to change the entire trajectory of the next generation. And the next generation, and that. Is humbling to me.

• 1:42:16Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:16Speaker 02

  And it's necessary because our, our grandparents didn't feel this badly. Right? They ate real food. They worked hard. They slept like logs. They didn't have electromagnetic fields and sleep number beds.

• 1:42:29Bunnie XO?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:30Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:42:30Bunnie XO?

  No, absolutely. Dani, you're just a wealth of information and I'm so happy. You gotta start coming by once a year.

• 1:42:36Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 1:42:37Bunnie XO?

  And like, we'll just have a sit down and Q and A and just talk about whatever new book you wrote and.

• 1:42:42Speaker 02

  Well, your people may say, absolutely not. She's impossible to deal with.

• 1:42:46Bunnie XO?

  No, they ask me every day about stuff like this and.

• 1:42:49Speaker 02

  Whatever you want, I'm here.

• 1:42:50Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, I love that. Why don't you let people know where they can find you?

• 1:42:54Speaker 02

  Dani, excuse me, Dani Williamson dot com is the website.

• 1:43:00Speaker 02

  Everything is on there, every link to everything, the online store and all that. But Dani Williamson Wellness, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram.

• 1:43:11Speaker 02

  So we have anybody who comes to Nashville or Franklin, just come in the store. And oftentimes I'm in there. Generally, I'm always in the clinic seeing, you know, patients, but I run through there, you know, all, all day, every day. But come see us, come stop in and tell us.

• 1:43:25Bunnie XO?

  Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for coming by.

• 1:43:28Speaker 02

  Appreciate you, Bunny. You're doing it. Keep it up. Keep up the hard work.

• 1:43:32Bunnie XO?

  No, I love you so much. I'm just so blessed to have, you know, good women like you in my corner, so.

• 1:43:37Speaker 02

  We need it.

• 1:43:39Bunnie XO?

  I feel like we're a coven of witches that are just trying to figure it out.

• 1:43:44Speaker 02

  You bet.

• 1:43:46Bunnie XO?

  Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.

• 1:43:54Bunnie XO?

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