Jack Whitehall | Club Random with Bill Maher

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• 3:13Speaker 04

  It's the night that he's died and the show goes out at 11. I called the producer of the show, I was like, "We need to do something about this."

• 3:19Bill Maher?

  Can I ask what the joke was?

• 3:23Speaker 04

  I want a baby dressed as Hitler.

• 3:25Bill Maher?

  With the mustache?

• 3:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, with a mustache.

• 3:27Bill Maher?

  You put a mustache on a baby?

• 3:29Speaker 04

  Mustache on a baby.

• 3:33Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 3:34Bill Maher?

  Hey.

• 3:34Speaker 04

  How's it going?

• 3:35Bill Maher?

  Oh, you're casing the joint?

• 3:36Speaker 04

  I said, "Yeah, just casing your monkey."

• 3:38Bill Maher?

  You gonna rob it later?

• 3:39Speaker 04

  I picked out a couple of items I'd like to see them.

• 3:42Bill Maher?

  A little suspicious when someone's like, walking around.

• 3:46Speaker 04

  Just checking what's fitted to it.

• 3:47Bill Maher?

  There's a lot of cool stuff, isn't there?

• 3:48Speaker 04

  There's some very cool stuff in here.

• 3:50Bill Maher?

  I know. I was at the beach yesterday, Venice. Do you know what Venice Boulevard is here?

• 3:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:54Bill Maher?

  It's like, all these crazy, you know, it's like... It's just that we, you ride bikes on it, it's great. And there's just all kind of, you know, hippies and people playing guitar on the, you know, selling crystals and, you know, booths and, and there's some vintage shops. Now I got a vintage mask that is gonna look great in here.

• 4:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:15Bill Maher?

  Thirty bucks.

• 4:16Speaker 04

  Thirty bucks.

• 4:16Bill Maher?

  There's nothing like finding something you could never find.

• 4:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 4:20Bill Maher?

  Anywhere else. And you love it and it's just not in department stores.

• 4:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need, I need a space like this in my home. I feel like I don't have a man cave. I live in London.

• 4:30Bill Maher?

  London.

• 4:31Speaker 04

  But I, you know, I, it was bought as a sort of bachelor pad and then I got married. And now I live there with my wife and child and.

• 4:38Bill Maher?

  I'm sorry.

• 4:39Speaker 04

  I'm losing.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  I lose all of my spaces. I gradually see things of mine sort of taken down from the walls and put away in.

• 4:48Bill Maher?

  How, how, how long have you been married?

• 4:50Speaker 04

  I've been married, um, um, two months.

• 4:54Bill Maher?

  Two months, you're a newlywed.

• 4:56Speaker 04

  Newlywed, yeah, yeah.

• 4:57Bill Maher?

  Wow, and they said it wouldn't last.

• 4:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:01Speaker 04

  We're, so, yeah, celebrating our two month anniversary.

• 5:03Bill Maher?

  So you're in the honeymoon phase.

• 5:04Speaker 04

  I'm in the honeymoon.

• 5:05Bill Maher?

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  So she loves that I've come over here to the United States without her to loosely do some press for a show, but actually just go to World Cup soccer matches.

• 5:17Bill Maher?

  Is that really, is that what you're doing?

• 5:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:19Bill Maher?

  Of course, you're into soccer, you're.

• 5:21Speaker 04

  I took a gamble, I did a show on Fox and knew that they were hosting the, the World Cup and I could get access to all of these games. And then I just needed England to get through to the knockout stages and it's all worked out brilliant.

• 5:34Bill Maher?

  I don't get sports where, I mean, there's more scoring at a Star Trek convention.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  But you see, I, I, yeah, I mean, I, I watch and I, I feel like it's compared to a lot of American sports is really frenetic and high octane.

• 5:51Bill Maher?

  I mean, baseball, not a lot of scoring either.

• 5:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no.

• 5:53Bill Maher?

  But I guess that we're just what you grow up.

• 5:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:56Bill Maher?

  You know, but you, boy, you guys are. Serious about it.

• 6:00Speaker 04

  So serious. I watched the American game where you guys got knocked out of the of the World Cup. And it was a really weird experience being around American soccer fans. Knowing if it was in England and it was England being knocked out of the World Cup, people would be suicidal. There'd be tears, there would be anger. And there was just a sort of resignation in this bar and everyone was really. Quite like gracious about it. They were shaking hands with a Belgium guy that was in there and wishing him. The best for the rest of the tournament. I'm like, if that was in England, people would be chucking furniture through the window and. It would be. You guys get violent. So violent.

• 6:36Bill Maher?

  You know, a lot of people in this country, we just had our big two hundred and fifty.

• 6:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:40Bill Maher?

  Hope you're not upset about.

• 6:41Speaker 04

  There's a little hard for us. But easier, easier than it was.

• 6:45Bill Maher?

  Really, after two hundred and fifty years, you're still pissed about me. Still pissed about.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Could have been. We'll take you back.

• 6:53Bill Maher?

  You know what?

• 6:56Bill Maher?

  Twenty years ago, I might have said. We'll go.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe not.

• 7:00Bill Maher?

  I don't know about now, bro. I don't know. Your play seems kind of crazy. It really does. It seems like where we're going. Uh, not in a good way.

• 7:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:11Bill Maher?

  You know.

• 7:13Speaker 04

  But the charm is like the the one, the the. Calling up the FIFA boss and the red card and the hysteria around that was fucking amazing.

• 7:22Bill Maher?

  So glad you brought this up. Please, I know soccer the way a woman who's not interested in baseball knows baseball, not at all. So I saw this in the headline, and I mean headline, big story. I just didn't even start this. I don't know what red cards are.

• 7:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:39Bill Maher?

  I don't know what FIFA is.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:42Bill Maher?

  Do me a solid, bro, and tell me this whole story from beginning to end and and treat me like I'm a dumb chick.

• 7:51Speaker 04

  It was amazing because it was it was this situation where. Your player gets sent off in the game. He gets the red card, which means.

• 7:57Bill Maher?

  I don't know what that means.

• 7:58Speaker 04

  So he gets banned for the next game. So he's your best.

• 8:01Bill Maher?

  For what?

• 8:02Speaker 04

  He he commits a foul. And he gets eliminated from the game. But it it also.

• 8:08Bill Maher?

  One foul?

• 8:08Speaker 04

  For one foul.

• 8:09Bill Maher?

  See, in basketball, you get six.

• 8:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, and and and this this foul was kind of, it was dubious. It on a slow motion replay, it looked kind of bad, but.

• 8:18Bill Maher?

  Which guy is this? On what team?

• 8:20Speaker 04

  He for the for the US, he's on the US team. And he scored a couple of goals. He's your best performing player. So he scores a goal in the game and then he gets sent off. And it means he's gonna miss the next crucial knockout game.

• 8:33Bill Maher?

  So for one foul?

• 8:34Speaker 04

  For one foul, yeah. For one foul, you get a you get a one game suspension for foul play. It was kind of unfair, and I think a lot of people watched it and they felt kind of sorry for this guy. He, you know, performed great in the tournament and then he's gonna miss this crucial game. And he gets the red card. And there's also a process whereby you can appeal a red card and you can appeal a decision like this. And it's quite rare, but on occasion, the red card will be taken away. So there's definitely a world in which. Had Trump just called our FIFA and said, can we maybe? You know, have this red card removed and have this guy able to play in the next game?

• 9:09Bill Maher?

  FIFA's the league.

• 9:10Speaker 04

  FIFA FIFA's the, yeah, the governing body.

• 9:13Bill Maher?

  What does it stand for?

• 9:14Speaker 04

  The. Fed Federation of International Football Association.

• 9:20Bill Maher?

  Okay, all right, you call it football.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  I could have just said anything and you would have gone.

• 9:24Bill Maher?

  No, but that's right.

• 9:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:25Bill Maher?

  I get it, football.

• 9:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, football. And so there's a world in which it could have been accelerated, you you know, people could have looked at that and gone, oh, yeah, that's legit. I mean, it's a little, it's a little suspicious and a little kind of unusual that it's it's happened that speedily. And it's happened, you know, for the US whilst the the tournament is in the US. But, okay, his red card's been taken away and he gets to play in the crucial knockout game. They definitely could have got away with it and it all would have just been like, you know, internet speculation.

• 9:57Bill Maher?

  Like Trump.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  He had to take credit for it. He couldn't help himself.

• 10:03Bill Maher?

  He can't.

• 10:03Speaker 04

  That speech is amazing. And you and I watched it and I was like, just thinking about the head of FIFA, Gianni Infantino. He's clearly had the call from Trump be like, I'll do you a solid. Him watching that, just like head in his hands going, don't tell them.

• 10:18Bill Maher?

  Just like everybody in the Trump administration, this is no different than the way he's handled the Iran war.

• 10:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:24Bill Maher?

  Like so many times they were having negotiations and both sides wanted to end this war. And if he had just shut up, they were, and then he had to go, they surrendered like dogs. They surrendered like dogs, they're begging you for a deal and they're like, oh, for fuck's sake. Could you just shut up for five minutes? We'll get the signature on the paper. But no, like a dog.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  It was so good. And you go, and he starts, he starts the press conference, we're going, I know nothing about soccer football. We call it football, we call it soccer. I know nothing about it, but I know that wasn't a foul. It was never a foul. It's like suddenly getting into the technicalities of war.

• 11:04Bill Maher?

  Really terrible Trump administration. I mean, almost anybody in America can do a bad Trump. You English, you can't even do a bad Trump. Just because you're too English. It just doesn't come out.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  You can do James Mason. You know, when I do my James Mason, the improv, fucking nothing.

• 11:21Bill Maher?

  Kids go wild. It's like Michael Jackson in nineteen eighty-five, before the unpleasantness, you know, just. But my Trump. Like when he, remember when he dangled the baby off the balcony?

• 11:32Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 11:33Bill Maher?

  Like that, I feel like that should have been a bit of a.

• 11:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:35Bill Maher?

  Red card, is that what you would call it?

• 11:38Speaker 04

  It's certainly a yellow, at least.

• 11:40Bill Maher?

  We grow these here.

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:42Bill Maher?

  Right over there.

• 11:43Speaker 04

  The woods.

• 11:44Bill Maher?

  Well, that's my store, yes.

• 11:46Speaker 04

  I've been to the woods.

• 11:47Bill Maher?

  Oh, you have?

• 11:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I'm friends with Woody.

• 11:49Bill Maher?

  Oh, that's right.

• 11:50Speaker 04

  Buddies with Woody. I randomly became friends with Woody because I met him at Glastonbury Festival.

• 11:55Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  And then we bonded. And then when I was here, he's like, you've got to take your dad to the woods.

• 11:59Bill Maher?

  He's a bonder.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  I took my eighty-five-year-old father to the woods.

• 12:03Bill Maher?

  Boy, does he bond with guys.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  He is a, he's a water bonder.

• 12:06Bill Maher?

  He just, I always kid him about it, but it's like, there's always a new bromance in his life.

• 12:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 12:12Bill Maher?

  He thinks I'm jealous, but I'm, I'm not jealous. It's just like, it's amazing the way, he's just a great guy. So whoever works with him. I've been to parties at, with him, I, I, I, yeah, it must have been his kind of party, he was throwing it because like. You look around the room and it's like, oh yeah, you did that movie together. Oh yeah, Farrelly, you did that movie together. Oh, Salma Hayek, you did that movie. Like everybody who's ever worked with him wants to be his pal. I don't blame him. I do too. And I never worked with him.

• 12:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:40Bill Maher?

  Except on a pot store, which loses money.

• 12:44Bill Maher?

  No, we're gonna try to fix it, but it's uh, it's almost impossible to make a business work in California like that. I mean, just the state takes like forty percent taxes. Fuck, you know, when I bought drugs from a skeezy dealer, he didn't skim forty percent. I was a dealer. I did skim a little. Like, I would buy a pound, which is sixteen ounces, and make seventeen ounces out of it. Okay, that's not forty percent, but the government is worse than the dealer.

• 13:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're forced to diversify into a gardening business and a tea room and...

• 13:24Bill Maher?

  At least I know this is pure.

• 13:26Speaker 04

  This is pure.

• 13:27Bill Maher?

  You know, I know it's no chemicals, you know, nothing like that. Just the soot from the fires that fall down on everything here. Would you ever live here? Could you see being one of the... Because we've certainly had a lot of British expats, you know, come over here and love the Southern California lifestyle.

• 13:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love the Southern California lifestyle for like a little bit, but then I do, I do, I kind of pine for home if I'm here for a period longer than three months.

• 13:55Bill Maher?

  We all love ours. Yeah, but I mean, many, you know, James Mason.

• 13:59Speaker 04

  I went to the same school as James Mason, not at the same time, but...

• 14:02Bill Maher?

  No.

• 14:05Speaker 04

  I, uh, yeah.

• 14:06Bill Maher?

  I don't think the kids remember.

• 14:08Speaker 04

  No, no, they don't.

• 14:09Bill Maher?

  But he was so wonderfully English and, "The way he talked like this, remember?"

• 14:15Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 14:15Bill Maher?

  "Oh, my good boy."

• 14:16Speaker 04

  Very good.

• 14:19Speaker 04

  He, yeah, he was one of the people that my school, my school would always talk about James Mason having gone there. And, uh, and you know, I hoped I'd grow up one day and I would be, you know, a revered, uh, former alumni.

• 14:32Bill Maher?

  But you're an actor too, right?

• 14:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm an actor too, but I feel like...

• 14:35Bill Maher?

  You've got a show.

• 14:36Speaker 04

  I'm the school's dirty secret, because this school that I went to had a lot of illustrious people that attended there, like James Mason. And then it also had, um...

• 14:43Bill Maher?

  What, this prep school?

• 14:44Speaker 04

  This public school in England.

• 14:46Bill Maher?

  A public school?

• 14:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Well, no, no, not public like public school here, like private school here, boarding school.

• 14:52Bill Maher?

  Sounds the opposite of public.

• 14:53Speaker 04

  The opposite of public school.

• 14:55Bill Maher?

  That's what I thought. I can tell by your accent you didn't go to a public school.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  This guy didn't go to a public school.

• 14:59Bill Maher?

  You know, you'd be talking like Scouse, you know, like Mick Jagger.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:04Bill Maher?

  Like...

• 15:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, but they had, they, they, um, Kate Middleton went there as well. So she, they, they love talking about her and that's in order that whenever they write about it in the newspapers. It's Kate Middleton, James Mason. And then I'm the dirty secret because I think I'm like a low rent comedian and so they maybe don't wanna.

• 15:24Bill Maher?

  But you're so, but you're so successful now.

• 15:27Speaker 04

  Well.

• 15:27Bill Maher?

  I mean, I think you're doing, you know, you're like the Beatles in sixty three. You're, you're breaking, you're trying to break the American market, right?

• 15:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:37Bill Maher?

  We gotta get you on N. Sullivan.

• 15:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:40Bill Maher?

  Okay.

• 15:42Bill Maher?

  Then we'll take you down to Miami to meet Muhammad Ali. It's gonna be a great photo op and I'm telling you.

• 15:49Speaker 04

  I'm gonna break it.

• 15:50Bill Maher?

  Jack Mania will be sweeping the country and I'm gonna talk to your manager, Brian Epstein. Are you a Beatles fan?

• 15:58Speaker 04

  I like, I like the Beatles, yeah.

• 16:00Bill Maher?

  I've got Martin Lewis here next week. He's like the world's foremost authority on the Beatles. So I can't wait to.

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:07Bill Maher?

  Talk to somebody who knows more about it than I do.

• 16:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. We're about to get it.

• 16:12Bill Maher?

  It's amazing how they endure.

• 16:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:15Bill Maher?

  It's like, there's always something new with the Beatles.

• 16:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:19Bill Maher?

  And it always sells.

• 16:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:21Bill Maher?

  Like crazy.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. Four, and four movies on the way from.

• 16:26Bill Maher?

  That's what I mean. There's always some new, something.

• 16:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:30Bill Maher?

  You know, they get, you know, Paul and Ringo are always doing something and you know, it's, boy. I mean, it's seventy years since John and Paul met.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:41Bill Maher?

  It's this month. That's why we're doing it with Martin Lewis next week. Because they met in July of nineteen fifty six. That's seventy years ago because that really was the birth of the Beatles.

• 16:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:54Bill Maher?

  I mean, seventy?

• 16:55Speaker 04

  Fuck.

• 16:56Bill Maher?

  That's exactly how old I am.

• 16:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I saw them in the, they were in a, last time I was in L A, I saw Ringo and Paul having dinner together. In a restaurant at the table next to me.

• 17:07Bill Maher?

  Did you say anything?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  No, no, I felt.

• 17:09Bill Maher?

  No?

• 17:10Speaker 04

  No, I didn't. They looked like so deep in conversation and.

• 17:13Bill Maher?

  What a damn. You're English, you, you get the pass.

• 17:17Speaker 04

  I also shared a birthday with Ringo Starr, but I felt, I didn't know whether I could go over and. Interrupt his conversation with Paul McCartney.

• 17:25Bill Maher?

  What do you think they were talking about?

• 17:27Speaker 04

  Ah, yeah, I mean. They looked like, I mean, they, it looked like old friends catching up. It was great.

• 17:33Bill Maher?

  I was listening to Get Back, it came on the radio yesterday.

• 17:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:37Bill Maher?

  And I remember seeing in the, in the movie, they show him writing it.

• 17:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:42Bill Maher?

  You know, he's sitting there in the morning waiting for John, who was always late.

• 17:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:47Bill Maher?

  And he's on his bass and he's just writing it like he's playing the bass like a guitar, he sometimes did. And he's writing, you could see like the beginning of the song. It's quite interesting. If you're a Beatle fan, if you're not, it's nothing. And the lyrics completely changed to just a bunch of gobbledygook.

• 18:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:02Bill Maher?

  I mean, I love the Beatles, but sometimes they were just like, this is a great song. I'm sorry, lyrics, we, whatever. It's just hello, goodbye, goodbye, hello.

• 18:12Bill Maher?

  It's just, come on, people, you want everything? It's a great song.

• 18:15Speaker 04

  It's a great song.

• 18:15Bill Maher?

  Yeah, it's just, it's not. Um, and that's one of them, you know?

• 18:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:19Bill Maher?

  Jojo was a man who thought he was a loner, you know, but he, whatever.

• 18:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:23Bill Maher?

  That's not how it started. It seemed to be about immigration.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  Really?

• 18:27Bill Maher?

  Get back.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:29Bill Maher?

  Get back to where you once belonged.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:31Bill Maher?

  I mean, that was an issue in the sixties too.

• 18:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:33Bill Maher?

  And it's not clear whether he was like actually saying that, which could be.

• 18:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 18:38Bill Maher?

  Or like sort of making fun of people who were saying that.

• 18:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 18:41Bill Maher?

  But it was the beginning of something that, look. I don't know how much you want to get into politics, but I would love to pick your brain about what's going on in England, because I read about it all the time.

• 18:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 18:51Bill Maher?

  And it looks like a bit of what we see here in America, but even more pronounced. You know, immigration issues.

• 18:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:00Bill Maher?

  Um, Islamicization issues.

• 19:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it, yeah, I mean, we should have seven, seven prime ministers in ten years. And.

• 19:10Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 19:11Speaker 04

  We've got a new one on the way. And then this like, I think everyone's just sort of. I guess like bracing themselves for, for Nigel Farage to be. You know, Prime Minister.

• 19:22Bill Maher?

  He's the conservative one.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  He's the conservative guy, yeah, who's just stood down to run in another election to get his seat back. Um, but yeah, he's the guy, he's, he's, he's the, you know, leader of reform. And I think all of the other parties are sort of scrabbling around to try and work out the best way to, to fight.

• 19:42Bill Maher?

  I mean.

• 19:43Speaker 04

  Future election, it's, yeah.

• 19:44Bill Maher?

  What I read in the Free Press, which I feel like is a down the middle place, which is very rare in this country. Either it's like all the way left or all the way right. But I, I trust them in their reporting and, um, it sounds like England just got way too woke on a bunch of crazy shit.

• 20:05Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 20:05Bill Maher?

  I think the last thing I read was like, they passed a

• 20:11Bill Maher?

  milestone where the amount of money they giving out in welfare is for the first time more than what they take in in taxes.

• 20:20Bill Maher?

  Like every third eligible to work man is not working.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:26Bill Maher?

  They're like on disability.

• 20:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:29Bill Maher?

  Some people really are, of course, but like not that many. And we have the same kind of issue here.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:34Bill Maher?

  Like a lot of young, they always talking here about young men are in crisis. You know, you see it because they go out and they shoot people. You know, and that, you know, gets a conversation going.

• 20:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:45Bill Maher?

  Oh, and why did this guy, and it's always kind of the same thing. They feel like they can't get laid.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:52Bill Maher?

  It's a lot of it.

• 20:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:54Bill Maher?

  People who can't get laid, Islamic terrorists.

• 20:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:57Bill Maher?

  You know, show me the one who was like, God, this guy never stopped having sex. And the next thing we knew, he blew up the building.

• 21:03Speaker 04

  You never read about that guy on the news.

• 21:05Bill Maher?

  Never read about, yeah, yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 04

  He was a, yeah, a real lethario.

• 21:09Bill Maher?

  All day long. Exactly.

• 21:12Speaker 04

  When he wasn't woman, I think, he was reading some really disturbing shit on the internet. And it's weird that all these women found him attractive because some of his chat was just a real turn off.

• 21:25Bill Maher?

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• 23:29Bill Maher?

  And it's the same thing with the people here, like, they just, uh, they partly forgot how to get laid because of the phone.

• 23:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:39Bill Maher?

  I don't know how, how old were you when like the smartphone came along?

• 23:43Speaker 04

  Um, yeah.

• 23:44Bill Maher?

  Were you, did you have a period of your life?

• 23:46Speaker 04

  No, I remember just before, yeah. I'm thirty-eight, so I sort of remember pre-

• 23:49Bill Maher?

  So you had a life where you didn't-

• 23:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:53Bill Maher?

  Where you had to talk to a girl?

• 23:54Speaker 04

  Where I had to talk to a girl, yeah. Proper, old-school courtship. At my not-so-public school. Writing letters. Epistolery, yeah.

• 24:03Bill Maher?

  And how'd it go? How were you?

• 24:05Speaker 04

  Not great. I think I benefited.

• 24:07Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 24:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I benefited from the internet age. No, no.

• 24:11Bill Maher?

  I think I would have-

• 24:13Speaker 04

  I was a late bloomer.

• 24:13Bill Maher?

  If I could have texted-

• 24:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:15Bill Maher?

  I just was-

• 24:16Speaker 04

  I would have been so much better in that.

• 24:17Bill Maher?

  So, I was super shy.

• 24:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:20Bill Maher?

  I couldn't walk up to a girl.

• 24:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:22Bill Maher?

  I mean, to, like, into my, not totally into my early twenties, but like, I certainly could have had a better time at college. Not that there were a lot of eligible women, but-

• 24:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:33Bill Maher?

  If I knew then what I knew now, could I have gotten them in like ten minutes?

• 24:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 24:38Bill Maher?

  You know, it's all about talking. I mean, girls-

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:40Bill Maher?

  I mean, obviously there are some things that are deal-breakers for girls, you know, if Cosimoto comes up to you. I can't blame a woman for like, you know, it's not the hunchback. It really isn't. It really isn't. You know, but whatever it is, but like, you know, it's, uh-

• 24:57Speaker 04

  That's a chemistonic comedian, though, because that's, that's a way of talking to girls, but you could prepare it all. And there was other people in an audience, and like, they're actually going up and talking one-on-one. Terrifying. But if they're all in darkness, and I've had weeks to think about it and really hone it, and yeah, that kind of conversation, great. One way with a paying audience.

• 25:21Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 25:21Speaker 04

  And shrouded in darkness.

• 25:23Bill Maher?

  It's also, I've found, amazing, in that same vein, the way I can say things-

• 25:30Bill Maher?

  To millions of people on camera, I'm doing my show like about my staff or something that I just I just don't say it in private, you know, I don't like call a meeting at the office and say, you know, you're all brilliant.

• 25:44Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 25:45Bill Maher?

  But I can say it like

• 25:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:47Bill Maher?

  And my brilliant staff who is incredible and it's like somehow that's easier.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  Why, yeah, why is that? I find, yeah, I real life like can get so tongue tied when yeah, trying to express emotions or sentimentality or things.

• 25:59Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I also never cry.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:02Bill Maher?

  In in real life.

• 26:03Speaker 04

  In real life.

• 26:04Bill Maher?

  I mean, and they've tried to make me sometimes on my show. You know, I got in trouble and they'd love to do that in America, cancel culture and all that. Nope, never got me down.

• 26:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:16Bill Maher?

  But like in a movie, I mean, I just cried over meet a date with Ted Hamilton. I mean, like any, any movie, even the silliest rom com that like puts the elements together in such a way that it's in the last reel. The girl is saying that to the guy and that I could, it can get me.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  I know.

• 26:36Bill Maher?

  But in real life, you can't get me.

• 26:39Speaker 04

  See, I I had such a fear that I would not cry at the birth of my daughter. And the thing that made me most scared is again, how readily I will cry at stuff that feels so inappropriate to cry at and so like I I I can watch, you know, like daytime television, I can watch quiz shows. I've cried at Deal or No Deal in the UK. I remember watching this episode.

• 27:00Bill Maher?

  Deal or No Deal?

• 27:01Speaker 04

  Deal or No Deal.

• 27:01Bill Maher?

  Cause of Meghan Markle? Wasn't she on?

• 27:05Speaker 04

  She was on it.

• 27:06Bill Maher?

  And it made you cry?

• 27:07Speaker 04

  It was in the Meghan Markle episode, but I just remember there being some episode where someone was trying to win a holiday and they hadn't been away with their daughter for so long and I'm fucking gushing. And I like it, the emotions are clearly so close to the surface and then I'm like real life

• 27:21Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 27:22Speaker 04

  moments where I I should, I should be, you know, the tears should be flowing and then I'm suddenly a husk. And that confuses me.

• 27:29Bill Maher?

  Show me a video of a marine.

• 27:33Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 27:33Bill Maher?

  Coming home and surprising his daughter in the classroom.

• 27:37Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:38Bill Maher?

  And I'm gone.

• 27:39Speaker 04

  I'm gone.

• 27:39Bill Maher?

  It's just gone.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  But then again, if I was in the Marines, yeah. And I was reunited with my child, I don't think I would cry. But watching some, watching it, experiencing with someone else.

• 27:51Bill Maher?

  Yeah, I think you might cry.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 27:52Bill Maher?

  I think that.

• 27:53Speaker 04

  I think I would be crying before. I think I would be crying when they sent me off.

• 27:56Bill Maher?

  That may be, yeah, that may be one.

• 27:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, fuck, I've got to join the Marines. I think there would be a lot of tears in the field.

• 28:03Bill Maher?

  No, I mean, I don't mean to say I don't like kids, but you know, they do have their drawbacks. They make it harder to cheat. No, I kid. I kid. That's not what I meant to say at all. It must be the pot. I don't know. I blame it on the pot.

• 28:18Speaker 04

  It's fine.

• 28:19Bill Maher?

  It's, you know, it's like truth serum.

• 28:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. Woody warned me. He said, he said when he did this, he partook in the pot.

• 28:29Bill Maher?

  He what?

• 28:29Speaker 04

  He said he partook in the pot and there was the truth serum. He said there was forty-five minutes.

• 28:35Bill Maher?

  We did.

• 28:36Speaker 04

  Unairable material.

• 28:37Bill Maher?

  Totally. Here and then we did one out the woods recently.

• 28:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:41Bill Maher?

  Oh, we just, we are ridiculous.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:45Bill Maher?

  You know, but I tell you, if you said to me when I was your age, you know, at seventy, you'll be laughing your ass off, having a great time, getting high, I'd just be like, okay, I'll take that.

• 28:59Speaker 04

  Amazing.

• 28:59Bill Maher?

  I never thought, I mean, my father certainly didn't have fun times like that when he was seventy.

• 29:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:08Bill Maher?

  You know, so, you know, I'm, one reason I avoided marriage and kids, you know, like, I like this kind of, I just like it. I don't know. I don't know why I have to graduate. No, I'm not saying it's bad or obviously it's such a super impulse in so many people, especially to have kids. I know guys who are terrible husbands, but great fathers.

• 29:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:32Bill Maher?

  That they take seriously.

• 29:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:34Bill Maher?

  They always take that seriously, the ones I know.

• 29:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:37Bill Maher?

  But they'll be real dogs, you know, sometimes, but the kid, no, you're like, I love being a dad. They say that. So I get that that's a very big impulse that I do not have.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:49Bill Maher?

  But I, I get it and, and certainly everybody can't be lying about it because, because, you know, it would be a massive conspiracy to try to convince me that every single person I ever talked to about it says, you know, it's a love you can't imagine, you know, it changed my life, it's my whole perspective is different, you know, it's, it's like, it's like doing heroin, you know, I never did it, so I can't tell, but I get it that it's great, you know, and if I had to choose, I'd take the heroin, but that's just me.

• 30:21Bill Maher?

  You know what I mean?

• 30:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 30:23Bill Maher?

  And I bet you you say the same thing.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  About, yeah.

• 30:26Bill Maher?

  Having a kid. What's your reaction, Jack, to having a kid?

• 30:29Speaker 04

  It's great. Better than heroin.

• 30:33Bill Maher?

  Wait, no, it changed my life and my first... Come on, you're not gonna gush like that?

• 30:37Speaker 04

  No, I'm not gonna gush to you.

• 30:39Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 30:39Speaker 04

  No, I don't wanna, you know.

• 30:41Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 30:41Speaker 04

  You know, she's... It's amazing. It's great, but smoking weed and having a laugh in the woods with Woody Harrelson in your seventies does also sound pretty great. So, you know, you've made your bed, but I'm not here to...

• 30:57Bill Maher?

  This Mark Twain Award, I was just...

• 30:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, congratulations.

• 30:59Bill Maher?

  Thank you. And Woody was one of the speakers, you know. So, I was looking forward to the whole thing except for one part of it, which was the show is on a Sunday night.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:11Bill Maher?

  And they kind of milk it. It's the Kennedy Center. And there's this "The Night Before Dinner", and I was like, okay, that's kind of anticlimactic, isn't it? Why are we doing this? And then this... And with speakers and stuff, I'm like, we're doing this the next night. Why are we doing this? Can we just have the main event and save all our muster for that? No, you have to... Okay, so I was like, all right. And then Woody was there and we went outside. And then I just had the best time. I was heckling the speakers.

• 31:47Bill Maher?

  You know, this Kennedy Center, they're closing it. This was the last show for two years because they're going under renovation.

• 31:52Speaker 04

  Right.

• 31:53Bill Maher?

  But as I... As we all walked through it, it's pristine, it's perfect. I think it's a scam. I don't think it needs any renovation. It looks fantastic to me.

• 32:03Bill Maher?

  And the guy from Wells Fargo who were there sponsoring it, and it turned out Woody and I both have our money with Wells Fargo.

• 32:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:09Bill Maher?

  And he was up there and talking about, you know, Wells Fargo is sponsoring the renovation. You know, and I was high and yelled out, "Not the guy who did the pool!"

• 32:22Bill Maher?

  So it just turned out to be such a fun night.

• 32:25Speaker 04

  How was it to hear all those people speaking about you? How do you feel?

• 32:29Bill Maher?

  Well, that was the next night. Well, it was that night too. Maureen Dowd and Jake Tapper and a few other people spoke, but it was awesome. It was awesome. Who would not like that? I mean, you can't be counterintuitive in life. I mean, you can a little bit, but you know, I'm all for being intuitive.

• 32:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:48Bill Maher?

  Leave the counterpart out.

• 32:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:50Bill Maher?

  Good things are good.

• 32:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:52Bill Maher?

  Bad things are bad.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:54Bill Maher?

  Lots of great people who went out of their way. Everyone I asked came.

• 32:59Speaker 04

  Everybody you asked?

• 32:59Bill Maher?

  Everybody, except Jerry Seinfeld, who was on the road, he couldn't. And he made a beautiful video for me. Everybody else. Louis CK, Jay Leno, Whitney Cummings, Woody, Ariana Huffington, Stephen A. Smith, John Mellencamp. Saying the song at the end.

• 33:14Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 33:14Bill Maher?

  Everybody said yes immediately. That's what meant the most to me. That all these people would do that for me. So, yeah, good things are good. That's my opinion. And I don't care who knows it.

• 33:27Speaker 04

  You exist on a strange plane there where it feels like you're like post cancellation without having ever been cancelled as well. I feel like you're uncancellable.

• 33:35Bill Maher?

  Always on the cusp.

• 33:37Speaker 04

  But that's a great place to exist, right?

• 33:39Bill Maher?

  Well, it's like saying like, hey, you're walking across two buildings on a high wire. It's a great place to exist. I'm used to it, you know? I'm used to it and like if you're 70 and you've been on TV for 33 years. If it ended tomorrow, look, I still won.

• 34:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:01Bill Maher?

  And it could because, you know, when people say you're beyond cancel, please. It's not hard to get cancelled still.

• 34:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's true.

• 34:09Bill Maher?

  It really isn't. And the truth is, I never really did anything that should have gotten me cancelled. And, you know, lots of people really have been wonderful in standing by me because they know me and or they know the work and you just, what you have to do is always be clawing back against the emo youth of Wokeville. Who live to feel morally superior to everybody.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:37Bill Maher?

  Especially older people. Have you ever gotten in like trouble for saying something that really that people like were attacking you for?

• 34:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, I had it once, like. Relatively early on in my career. And it was, and I remember being in the eye of the s- the storm and and feeling like, you know, it was the worst thing that was ever gonna happen. And I thought I thought it was like the end of my career and and I was on the front page of the newspapers and they were trying to sort of whip up a real frenzy. And it was such a stupid joke as well. It was a joke on a TV show about the late Queen. And it was a, it was an obscene joke.

• 35:13Bill Maher?

  Elton John?

• 35:16Bill Maher?

  No, I'm kidding.

• 35:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, um, it was a I I remember it was during, when the Queen had a sort of jubilee pageant where they did the boats down.

• 35:26Bill Maher?

  Jubilee?

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:27Bill Maher?

  When she's in office fifty years.

• 35:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, and they and they did a thing where they had these pageants down the Thames. And she was an old lady at the time, and there was a whole thing about how she'd stood for the whole of this pageant. And saying she's an old lady and she shouldn't be standing all the time and she should have sat down. And then.

• 35:43Bill Maher?

  You said that?

• 35:43Speaker 04

  No, no, well, this is, and actually, I didn't even make the joke. I just took some elements and and presented them. And it was a sort of build your own joke. A couple of days later, Prince Philip went to hospital with a urinary infection. And I said, it was her anniversary. He ended up with a urinary infection and she didn't wanna sit down, which leads me to believe they celebrated in the way that a lot of couples celebrate an anniversary. And, yeah, and then that it went out on TV. I mean, it got a bit of a groan from the audience. But then it became like this scandal that I'd made a joke about our monarch enjoying anal sex.

• 36:20Bill Maher?

  That's, see, that's so ridiculous, because at least when I got in trouble for things I've said, like, you know, the terrorists weren't cowards after nine eleven.

• 36:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:28Bill Maher?

  It's because it was something important. It was an important thing, whether you agree or don't agree. Your shit was just like, I mean, the the way they like lose their shit about the Queen, like, who gives a fuck?

• 36:40Speaker 04

  It's fucking crazy.

• 36:41Bill Maher?

  It is crazy. And you know what? It's even, everybody British I've had, like, people like Piers Morgan.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:47Bill Maher?

  Who, you know, can be off the reservation and I think say some dumb things, but he's generally a a guy who you can have a conversation. But I like Piers.

• 36:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's great.

• 36:56Bill Maher?

  Um, he said some stupid things about me, but. Okay, people do have bad days and whatever. He's on his period. He's set up. Whatever, but like Sharon Osbourne.

• 37:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:06Bill Maher?

  Who I like a lot, like rational people.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:08Bill Maher?

  You started on the Queen and suddenly it's like not funny anymore. And I'm like, are you fucking with me? Or do you? No, they're not fucking with me. They really don't like it.

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:19Bill Maher?

  You know, you don't, don't call her an old bag.

• 37:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:21Bill Maher?

  That's just not. And it's like, you're, okay, all right.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:26Bill Maher?

  I see. And I, you know, that's just, you know.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  They should be of everyone like the most fair game, I feel like.

• 37:34Bill Maher?

  The most.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  You could not be more punching up.

• 37:37Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 37:38Speaker 04

  But I think there's, again, it's like, there's a, there's definitely a sort of like, uh, middle England hysteria. And that, that, that, uh, that was in the Daily Mail and there was a couple of like Ofcom complaints. And they'd had a whole thing a couple of years before with, um, Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross. When they'd said, they'd done a prank call that had gone wrong and it had been on the BBC. So there's like the BBC as well, that's another thing that like, the minute they're involved, it becomes like a, a much more of a story. And it can get whipped up into a frenzy. And I, I remember it being something that was just like such a storm in a teacup. But then it became like, you know, it fed the beast. It was like part of the news cycle. It was column inches. It was, you know, online discourse.

• 38:18Bill Maher?

  And then it goes away as if it never existed. It was, it's like COVID.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:23Bill Maher?

  Like, like.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:24Bill Maher?

  It's the worst thing ever, worst thing ever, worst thing ever. And then suddenly like, what?

• 38:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:28Bill Maher?

  Just go back to life, go back.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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• 40:00Bill Maher?

  Like, I never thought it was the worst thing ever. So like, okay, but we're gonna pretend that that, like, whole two-year insanity, you know, I mean, obviously, some measures should have been taken, but they went crazy. But yeah, I've had the exact same experience. It's like, crazy, we have to, get everybody involved, get everybody involved, we're crazy, crazy! And then, you know, Britney Spears gets a new boyfriend and it's like, oh, now we're on to that.

• 40:24Speaker 04

  As my publicist said on the phone, I remember him saying, "You just need to pray that someone dies this week."

• 40:29Bill Maher?

  They will. And it always, something always happens.

• 40:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, something will happen.

• 40:32Bill Maher?

  And then they, the fucking sheep are suddenly driven to a new pasture.

• 40:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:39Bill Maher?

  That's what it is.

• 40:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 40:41Bill Maher?

  You can drive the sheep to a new pasture. It's easy. They're sheep, Jack.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  They're sheep, they're sheep, and it's like...

• 40:49Bill Maher?

  They're fucking sheep.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  Is this a, yeah, like a sort of... A villain of the internet as well for for for twenty four hours, forty eight hours, and then on to the next. It's like, who can we put in the stocks for for this period and then. The other one I nearly had that was that was this was like a near miss, but and I and I I remember it. I I had a late night show only for like a couple of seasons in the UK. And I remember at the behest of the the guy, that one of the producers from from the from the network. He was obsessed with us doing this fucking lame. He he wanted like really like just root one like shock comedy and he he was like.

• 41:32Speaker 04

  I I remember the notes that he that he used to give like he genuinely at one point he was like. We I want a baby dressed as Hitler. We're like, what? He was like, I just think that's funny, a baby dressed as Hitler. And we did, because no one could fucking stand up to this guy.

• 41:45Bill Maher?

  With the mustache?

• 41:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, with a mustache.

• 41:46Bill Maher?

  You put a mustache on a baby?

• 41:48Speaker 04

  A mustache on a baby, a Hitler baby.

• 41:50Bill Maher?

  I I'm not gonna lie, I kinda love this.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  I kinda love that.

• 41:52Bill Maher?

  I I kinda, that is, I've never.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  And we'd always ask why, like, why is there the baby Hitler?

• 41:57Bill Maher?

  Somebody would have done it. Did you put a hat on, I mean, uh?

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:00Bill Maher?

  You did?

• 42:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, he had the little, the hair.

• 42:03Bill Maher?

  Had a uniform?

• 42:04Speaker 04

  And the uniform.

• 42:05Bill Maher?

  With the iron cross?

• 42:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:07Bill Maher?

  Wow.

• 42:07Speaker 04

  Baby Hitler.

• 42:08Bill Maher?

  Baby Hitler.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  But the problem is, once you said.

• 42:10Bill Maher?

  And Hugo Boss did the.

• 42:13Speaker 04

  But once you said yes to baby Hitler, it really emboldened this guy, because then there was more ideas. So once you've accepted that baby Hitler's fine, that then you just get a dodge of these fucking terrible ideas. And then it led to a thing where there was a sketch, not a sketch, it was like in the like. Cut from the monologue to a sketch about Michael Jackson. And it was again, I think that that I can't even remember what the sketch was, but it was a sort of Michael Jackson. Pedophile sketch that again, it wasn't even in the news cycle at the time. But he was like, I just want a Michael Jackson pedophile visual gag at the end of this monologue. So we did the Michael Jackson pedophile joke.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  And I'm watching it go out and feeling like, you know, I have no spine and I I'm just like. A puppet for this idiotic man doing his stupid ideas. And I'm watching it, waiting for it to go out and on the news.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  They they announced that Michael Jackson has died.

• 43:07Bill Maher?

  Oh.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  And it's the night that he's died and the show goes out at eleven. And I'm like, fuck. This is, this is, I I called the producer of the show, I was like, we need to do something about this.

• 43:18Bill Maher?

  Can I ask what the joke was?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  I can't even remember what the jo- but it was a guy, it was like a visual, it was a guy dressed up as Michael Jackson. Again, I think with a, there was a lot of babies involved, it was like a prop baby.

• 43:29Bill Maher?

  Baby Michael Jackson.

• 43:30Speaker 04

  And it was like a load of jokes about him being a predator. But then it was the night that he died, so then we had to call up the guy from the network. And the guy from the network had to literally ring in and and get someone to try and pull the show. And I was watching minute by minute, like praying that he'd get get through in time, but it was like eleven o'clock at night. And he literally had to call up someone from the Channel Four switchboard and said, it's so and so, I'm the head of the network, you need to pull this show because

• 44:01Bill Maher?

  The whole show?

• 44:02Speaker 04

  The whole, the whole thing on every news network was about how Michael Jackson had died and people

• 44:07Bill Maher?

  Right, of course.

• 44:07Speaker 04

  candlelit vigils and

• 44:08Bill Maher?

  Sure.

• 44:09Speaker 04

  Tears, tears, and then we've got this really like fucking horrendous

• 44:12Bill Maher?

  So they pulled the whole show?

• 44:13Speaker 04

  I was watching it, they they, they literally had the opening credits and then suddenly it went to black and it was just a screen saying, unfortunately, there's been a technical difficulty. And it was just like a holding card and then they put something else on and within like minutes he'd managed to get it pulled. And I remember watching that with my heart pounding going, I'm gonna be just

• 44:35Bill Maher?

  Well, of course.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Pillaried for this.

• 44:37Bill Maher?

  In retrospect, it doesn't look like you were wrong. Uh, you know, but I'm not wrong.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:45Bill Maher?

  I mean, there were so many, I I resisted doing Michael Jackson fucks little boy jokes for a long time when I did not know it was true.

• 44:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:54Bill Maher?

  Um, then after they did the special, they they did a, I mean, even Oprah came out after, did a special after the special and HBO documentary. Two Kids came forward with a testimony that was just so obviously true.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 45:08Bill Maher?

  And, you know, it wasn't like I was surprised, but um, but I was jealous because there was always so many great Michael Jackson jokes, like, um, why does Michael Jackson shop at Kmart?

• 45:20Speaker 04

  Why?

• 45:20Bill Maher?

  Because boys pants are half off. Ladies and gentlemen.

• 45:28Bill Maher?

  And I was not admiring myself to this at the time.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:33Bill Maher?

  That's what kind of integrity I have, Jack.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  You have integrity. I was not.

• 45:39Bill Maher?

  But that's, isn't that a great line?

• 45:41Speaker 04

  That's a great line.

• 45:42Bill Maher?

  Boys' pants are half-worn.

• 45:45Bill Maher?

  You gotta love jokes.

• 45:46Speaker 04

  But I feel like, yeah, and you go to the comedy clubs when something like that happens as well. And you see some comedians that'll be up there on stage and they'll be telling jokes hours after the beloved figure or entertainer has passed away.

• 46:00Bill Maher?

  They say the sick jokes originate in prison. I don't know if that's a canard or what, but because always there's like a sick joke, very quickly. My friend, do you remember the comedian Gilbert Gottfried?

• 46:15Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Hilarious.

• 46:16Bill Maher?

  Hilarious.

• 46:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:17Bill Maher?

  Well, he was the Aflac Duck.

• 46:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:20Bill Maher?

  You had a, which is an insurance company with a duck logo.

• 46:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:26Bill Maher?

  I don't know why insurance companies are the lizard, this is what they do. I don't know why this makes people buy insurance, you know? Hey, look, you're an agent as a salamander. Okay, well, that's what I want when my house burnt down. Okay, but this is what they do. And he was the Aflac Duck and lost it because the tsunami? Do you remember the tsunami?

• 46:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was up on stage?

• 46:50Bill Maher?

  No, he tweeted it out.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Tweeted it, okay.

• 46:52Bill Maher?

  It was like 2004 and he did like 50 jokes about the tsunami, which killed a lot of people.

• 47:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 47:01Bill Maher?

  You know, what school do you go to? I don't know, it's floating by, whatever. You know, all these, and that was just Gilbert.

• 47:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:09Bill Maher?

  And I, I mean, his, his sort of like childlike naivete, which was the, I think, the engine behind the genius of his comedy.

• 47:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:19Bill Maher?

  The flip side of that was this, that he didn't think.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:23Bill Maher?

  There was gonna be blowback.

• 47:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:26Bill Maher?

  To the night of the tsunami, not just one.

• 47:30Speaker 04

  No.

• 47:30Bill Maher?

  But you know, just like fifty.

• 47:34Speaker 04

  Showing all of his working as well.

• 47:36Bill Maher?

  I wish I had them in front of me now, and I'm sure you can.

• 47:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:40Bill Maher?

  Call them up on your phone, but uh, yeah.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  I feel thankful though that I like, cause I I did a sift of all of my Twitter and went through and deleted a load of stuff and made sure that there was nothing out like in the ether that was potentially ruinous.

• 47:55Bill Maher?

  It does not live somewhere.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  It lives somewhere.

• 47:57Bill Maher?

  The cloud is forever.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  But I I I think I started stand up in any, I definitely started stand up in an era before, sort of camera phones and Twitter and. But when I first started as well, I think a lot of my inspirations were comedians that were, you know, were much coarser and like I I tried shock comedy and.

• 48:16Bill Maher?

  You did.

• 48:16Speaker 04

  And I had much less of a filter and I think to some of my early gigs as well, when I was a less skilled comedian and I would just wanna say something to try and get elicit a reaction and shock people in the room. And I feel so fucking thankful that that, you know, wasn't in an era where they're now like filming every gig or people have got their camera phones out. Cause I said some stuff on stage in my early twenties that.

• 48:37Bill Maher?

  I think you should go back to that, I do. No, I mean, I would like to see that, cause you're a funny, engaging guy and you can get away with it.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 48:44Bill Maher?

  You know, and and uh, I mean, that's my kinda comedy.

• 48:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:48Bill Maher?

  You know, I mean, W C Fields, I think it was him, maybe that's apocryphal, but attributed to him once said. The difference between a comedian and a civilian is to make a civilian laugh, all you have to do is dress up like an old lady. And walk down the street and fall down a manhole cover.

• 49:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:09Bill Maher?

  In a manhole.

• 49:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:11Bill Maher?

  To make a comedian laugh, it has to really be an old lady.

• 49:18Bill Maher?

  So that's what I strive.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:21Bill Maher?

  Pushing an old lady down.

• 49:22Speaker 04

  Pushing an old lady down.

• 49:23Bill Maher?

  You know, not for everybody. But, but you have a family. You can't, you have to think, you see, I don't have to worry about,

• 49:31Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 49:32Bill Maher?

  like, you know, oh my gosh, how am I gonna feed my kids if I fuck up on stage, you know?

• 49:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:38Bill Maher?

  But you do know.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:40Bill Maher?

  You know?

• 49:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:42Bill Maher?

  But you're.

• 49:42Speaker 04

  But I, I do think that there's something to that as well, like, there comes a slight, um, uh, you can hold on to the fact that it, the thing that you've said that will probably bring you down is, is already out there. That certainly allows you to feel slightly more relaxed.

• 49:58Bill Maher?

  I feel like cancel culture is, right now, like Covid. The worst of it is over.

• 50:04Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 50:05Bill Maher?

  But it will always be with us.

• 50:07Speaker 04

  Hmm, yeah.

• 50:08Bill Maher?

  You can always get it.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 50:11Bill Maher?

  But I think we've passed.

• 50:13Speaker 04

  Peak.

• 50:13Bill Maher?

  The peak. But I saw the other day in the, uh, paper, it could have been in the Daily Mail.

• 50:20Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 50:21Bill Maher?

  You read the Daily Mail?

• 50:22Speaker 04

  I am, yeah, I'm.

• 50:23Bill Maher?

  But that's your.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  No, I mean, I wouldn't say that's my, my.

• 50:27Bill Maher?

  Your countryman.

• 50:28Speaker 04

  My mother's paper.

• 50:29Bill Maher?

  No, but it's English.

• 50:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's English. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:32Bill Maher?

  People love it here.

• 50:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. The Mail Online is.

• 50:35Bill Maher?

  What?

• 50:36Speaker 04

  The Daily Mail Online, that's, my wife is on that website.

• 50:41Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 50:41Speaker 04

  Ten hours a day, yeah.

• 50:42Bill Maher?

  Ten hours a day?

• 50:43Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 50:44Bill Maher?

  Oh my god. Well, anyway, um, I think it was there that I read that Love Island.

• 50:51Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 50:52Bill Maher?

  You said, wait, easy.

• 50:55Speaker 04

  I wasn't expecting you to bring up Love Island.

• 50:57Bill Maher?

  Why are you so excited about me bringing?

• 50:59Speaker 04

  Cause I was just so surprised.

• 51:01Bill Maher?

  Love Island, yes, yes. Uh, easy.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:07Bill Maher?

  Just had two.

• 51:10Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Two people kicked off it?

• 51:12Bill Maher?

  Correct, because.

• 51:14Speaker 04

  Historic tweets or?

• 51:16Bill Maher?

  No.

• 51:16Speaker 04

  No, what have they done?

• 51:17Bill Maher?

  Singing along.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 51:21Bill Maher?

  Singing along with a rap song. I don't think we need to go into detail.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  No.

• 51:26Bill Maher?

  But.

• 51:27Speaker 04

  But I suspect.

• 51:29Bill Maher?

  But singing along, you know, how about just a warning?

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:35Bill Maher?

  You know, just, so.

• 51:40Bill Maher?

  I don't know, what do you think?

• 51:42Speaker 04

  Another guy lost his job.

• 51:43Bill Maher?

  Over to you, Jack.

• 51:44Speaker 04

  Another guy lost his job, a TV chef, for singing along.

• 51:48Bill Maher?

  I remember when Gwyneth Paltrow got in trouble for singing a song about the capital of France.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:56Bill Maher?

  I'll leave it that vague.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  Yes, oh yes, yes, yes.

• 52:01Speaker 04

  I think I know which one that might have been.

• 52:04Bill Maher?

  That's how delicate the subject is.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:06Bill Maher?

  We can't even say the capital of France part.

• 52:09Speaker 04

  Can't even say the capital of France.

• 52:10Bill Maher?

  Not even France, let's just say a country in Central Europe, it's between Germany and Spain, but you know, I mean, it could be Belgium.

• 52:23Speaker 04

  But yeah, there definitely has to be maybe more of a warning system.

• 52:26Bill Maher?

  I mean, just stop being in it just for the catching someone.

• 52:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:32Bill Maher?

  That's what I, just.

• 52:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:33Bill Maher?

  Stop pretending that you're actually making the world better.

• 52:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:37Bill Maher?

  Because you made a contestant on Love Fucked Show, whatever that show is.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  Love Fucked Show.

• 52:46Bill Maher?

  The Love Fucked Show.

• 52:47Speaker 04

  The Love Fucked Show.

• 52:48Bill Maher?

  I mean.

• 52:49Speaker 04

  That's a spin off.

• 52:49Bill Maher?

  My show was always Temptation Island, you ever see that?

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:52Bill Maher?

  I think that may be similar to Love Island.

• 52:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:55Bill Maher?

  But that was on way at the beginning of the century and then they rebooted it. It was my guilty pleasure for a while, but I didn't watch the last season, I thought the people weren't cute. It's like, if you're not gonna have cute people.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:08Bill Maher?

  Please, I'm not watching this for the contest.

• 53:12Speaker 04

  I watch Love Island by proxy because my wife is a fan of it, but I feel like.

• 53:19Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 53:19Speaker 04

  I like it for a little bit when they're all betraying each other and cheating and you're seeing them emotionally dissolve. And I feel like I quite like the schadenfreude of that and watching people that are, you know.

• 53:36Speaker 04

  Miserable, like young, hot, happy people being put through the wringer, I think is good. But then as soon as they become happy and in love and coupled up and seeing which young, hot, happy couple is the happiest, I, there's no rub.

• 53:51Bill Maher?

  But don't, doesn't it usually go to shit after that?

• 53:54Speaker 04

  Well.

• 53:55Bill Maher?

  Do they actually ever get married?

• 53:57Speaker 04

  I think they do.

• 53:58Bill Maher?

  They do?

• 53:58Speaker 04

  I think some of them.

• 53:59Bill Maher?

  From Love Island?

• 53:59Speaker 04

  From Love Island, they get married. And, uh, but you, the show ends at them, at their happiest and all coupled up and in love and it's a happy ending and I think they need to do one with married couples where it starts with them all married and then it's like a summer of them just falling apart.

• 54:16Bill Maher?

  Now, the show they should do, I've mentioned this before, I'm hoping someone in the ether will hear it and make it happen, is we have a show here called The Golden Bachelor.

• 54:26Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 54:27Bill Maher?

  You ever heard of it?

• 54:27Speaker 04

  I've heard of The Bachelor, I haven't heard of The Golden Bachelor.

• 54:29Bill Maher?

  Oh, it was huge, like, they, and that's a guy who's like seventy.

• 54:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 54:34Bill Maher?

  I think he was seventy-two. But, wait, wait, of course, because this is America and things have to be appropriate. It was a bunch of ladies, it was the same plot, he's the bachelor, but they were all age appropriate.

• 54:48Speaker 04

  Right, yeah, yeah.

• 54:49Bill Maher?

  That's not interesting.

• 54:51Speaker 04

  No.

• 54:51Bill Maher?

  Me, as the Golden Bachelor? With the age that I find appropriate?

• 55:00Bill Maher?

  That's a show.

• 55:01Speaker 04

  That's a show.

• 55:01Bill Maher?

  That's a show and a lot of fun, I would promise to be completely chaste. No kissing, no sex, none of that that they do. I just wanna talk to people and I just think it'll be really fun and funny and instructive and and also a blow against ageism because, you know, love is where you find it. I mean, you know, it's always okay when Madonna

• 55:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:23Bill Maher?

  is going out with a twenty-four-year-old.

• 55:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:25Bill Maher?

  It's always okay when Kate Packensall doesn't.

• 55:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:28Bill Maher?

  It's always okay that Cher is eighty and marrying a guy happy, that's always okay. But somehow in the other way, it's not okay, I don't get it.

• 55:37Speaker 04

  And the golden element was he was the was the bachelor um you know was he well off was was that part of the conceit of it or?

• 55:45Bill Maher?

  Well, I mean, he wasn't living out of his car, you know.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  That's quite a good twist. You think he's a golden bachelor and actually he's living in a car.

• 55:54Bill Maher?

  He was a generic white guy who probably, you know, worked for Crumbly and Womng Corporation.

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:01Bill Maher?

  You know, just was like this guy who, look, people, as we know, are always looking for love, as they should.

• 56:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:10Bill Maher?

  I mean, the world is a sinful, hateful place, and one of the few great things about it is that love is always there somewhere.

• 56:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:18Bill Maher?

  And it's always available.

• 56:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:20Bill Maher?

  Uh, it's not sold in stores, but it is around.

• 56:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:24Bill Maher?

  And you can always, you know, get lucky, or maybe you make your own luck with love by, you know, a lot of people say you, whatever you put out comes back to you. I think there certainly is an element to that. Um, so, you know, are there a lot of ladies who are, they're probably mostly divorced, maybe some are widows, in their 50s or 60s, you know, looking for late in life love? I mean, you shouldn't give up on love at any time in life, you know?

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:55Bill Maher?

  So, obviously, American audiences ate it up.

• 57:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 57:01Bill Maher?

  They fucking loved it. Because ladies, I think, you know, related to, oh, this is great, you know, you know, love late in life.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 57:11Bill Maher?

  And and the guy, you know, he, I didn't watch it. He he seemed like kind of a stiff to me, but.

• 57:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:18Bill Maher?

  You know, by actuarial tables, we know, women live longer.

• 57:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:24Bill Maher?

  So as you get into those age ranges, there's more women than men.

• 57:31Bill Maher?

  I remember the reverse of this when I was in college and there was way more men than women. It sucks. So, men who are seventy, you know, if they're into age-appropriate dating, they got their pick of the litter. In the age-old homes, they're having lots of sex.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, I visited.

• 57:50Bill Maher?

  Like STDs are out of control in the old age home.

• 57:55Speaker 04

  Oh, my god, yeah, I went to the one in Arizona, that massive, there's a massive compound there and they were all, it was wild.

• 58:02Bill Maher?

  What were you doing there?

• 58:04Speaker 04

  I was doing a travel show.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  I was pitching a new reality format where I date, date around the, yeah, the old age communities.

• 58:15Bill Maher?

  Was your wife okay with this?

• 58:18Speaker 04

  That's how I met her.

• 58:19Bill Maher?

  Honey.

• 58:19Speaker 04

  She's eighty, I didn't mention that.

• 58:22Bill Maher?

  You came home smelling like Ben Gay. What's going on?

• 58:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, I found her in one of those homes, she was very confused. But I got her onto the, got her onto the plane with promises of. Bob Monkhouse, Stevie D's.

• 58:42Speaker 04

  I managed to get her.

• 58:43Bill Maher?

  Does your wife know who Bob Monkhouse is?

• 58:44Speaker 04

  She would not know.

• 58:45Bill Maher?

  She's too young for that?

• 58:46Speaker 04

  She's too young for that.

• 58:47Bill Maher?

  You cradle robber.

• 58:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:49Bill Maher?

  How dare you not date, date completely appropriately?

• 58:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:54Bill Maher?

  She has to be born exactly within the year you were born. How old is your wife?

• 58:58Speaker 04

  My wife is thirty-four.

• 58:59Bill Maher?

  Oh, well, that's completely respectable.

• 59:02Speaker 04

  Completely respectable.

• 59:03Bill Maher?

  Ridiculous.

• 59:04Speaker 04

  My, uh, my father and mother, they have a big age gap. My father's eighty-six, my mother's sixty-six.

• 59:11Bill Maher?

  Not a big age gap to me, but I get your point.

• 59:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:14Bill Maher?

  No, but to most people that is.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:16Bill Maher?

  But, you know, it's human nature. Age gaps don't happen because we just, like, took a vote on it.

• 59:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:23Bill Maher?

  It happens because men require.

• 59:27Bill Maher?

  Decades of head start. To be even close to as mature as women are. They usually are fully, I mean not fully, okay, but a long way toward maturity when they're twenty five. I wouldn't say that about twenty one. They're still in that experimental crazy, I'm away from home. Let's see what dicks are like phase, you know. Okay, but not twenty five. They grow up pretty fast. I hear.

• 59:59Bill Maher?

  But men? I mean, the immaturity can go to almost endlessly. I mean, it can go to eighty. I'm not mentioning any names. Somebody I know who just turned eighty, it's kind of immature.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Your lunch and partner.

• 1:00:16Bill Maher?

  Dinner.

• 1:00:20Bill Maher?

  Yeah, that's his list of insults. Did you see that?

• 1:00:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's.

• 1:00:25Bill Maher?

  It's a great artifact of history.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  Did he speak for you or did Mark try?

• 1:00:29Bill Maher?

  No, he tried to stop it. He tried to get it thrown out. Yeah, he did. He, when it was announced, he had his press secretary said, fake news, it's not happening. Bill Maher's not getting it.

• 1:00:41Speaker 04

  But what has he changed? Has he changed his tune on you?

• 1:00:45Bill Maher?

  The Kennedy Center.

• 1:00:47Speaker 04

  It was gonna be the Trump Kennedy Center.

• 1:00:48Bill Maher?

  Then they took his, that was another controversy. I didn't think it was ever gonna happen. Because first he tried to stop it, but then it was going through and then they took his name off the building. He didn't like it. When they took his name off the building, he covered the building in drapery, so you couldn't see anything on the building. I'm not kidding. And I don't care. I don't care. If you, if at this point, ten years into the Trump situation, you are still obsessing about his personality, my view is, that's on you. Should we always be?

• 1:01:25Bill Maher?

  Criticizing as I do what he actually does while he's in office, absolutely. But to keep just focusing on these personality things that we've talked about for 10 years, they're not gonna change. That's who he is. I don't care when he calls me names now. It's like the way he does it. It's the way he talks. It's who he is. Of course he's gonna hang a tarp on the building. He does these things which you can't even imagine if you tried your hardest. What is he gonna do now? Tarp on the building would never have come to me, but he is always gonna do it. And when he does it, I just gotta go, "Okay, low plate." This is what you do.

• 1:02:07Bill Maher?

  And as long as it's something that doesn't really affect me or other people, for real. I don't care about your reflecting pool. I don't care about your ballroom. I don't care what you do on the lawn. You can have UFC fights. You can have sheep grazing there like one president did. You can do anything. Pickleball. I don't give a shit what you do on the lawn. And if you're a person who does, you're just way too into Donald Trump. As the person who controls how you think in life. Everything is about him. I'm not going there with you. You know, and I'm winning. And I'm somebody he attacks personally, and I care less than you do. Your life is all about Donald Trump. Mine isn't. It's amazing the things that people can be okay with if they like you.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  I know.

• 1:02:53Bill Maher?

  Like especially celebrities, like, look, again, people will argue about Michael Jackson till forever. But if you're a reasonable person, it's pretty obvious. And it's just, a lot of people just decided, "We don't care." "We just don't care." And I certainly don't care about the music. I never stopped playing the music. I never stopped playing R. Kelly. The music didn't rape anybody. The music is great, and I never even considered not playing. But what the fuck?

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  But not quite a good enough canon to get away with the, you know, Michael Jackson levels of adulation. But there's definitely a-

• 1:03:33Bill Maher?

  I'm just aware of the cognitive dissonance. I can like the music and be completely aware that the person who made it did terrible things. I mean, Thomas Jefferson wrote our Declaration of Independence. Again, sorry, man.

• 1:03:53Bill Maher?

  But he was, I can't really couch it in any other polite word, a rapist. Because he had sex with a slave. Now, when you're a slave, you can't say no.

• 1:04:06Bill Maher?

  That, to me, is the definition of rape. So, a rapist wrote the Declaration of Independence. Life is full of contradictions like that. We had a revered union leader named Cesar Chavez in this country, in this state, who got rights for migrant farm workers. Revered, he's on the name of a thousand schools. Had to take it off. Turned out, he was having horrible sexual predation on hundreds of women. And yet, he was a great union leader. I mean, that's the world we live in.

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:43Bill Maher?

  I, I, I, I can't explain it, but I, I'm not gonna pretend that those contradictions don't exist. And I'm not gonna stop playing Beat It.

• 1:04:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:54Bill Maher?

  Or Billie Jean.

• 1:04:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:56Bill Maher?

  Or, um, The Way You Make Me Feel. You know, I mean, he's just a... I watched the movie recently when I was in a hotel room. You know, there's a...

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, the Michael.

• 1:05:06Bill Maher?

  Made a billion dollars!

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  My god, yeah.

• 1:05:08Bill Maher?

  Of course, it ends before...

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Yes, at a convenient moment.

• 1:05:13Bill Maher?

  Very convenient moments. But, you know.

• 1:05:18Speaker 04

  Gogon? He'd have to take all the gogons off the wall.

• 1:05:21Bill Maher?

  Why, what'd Gogon do?

• 1:05:22Speaker 04

  He was, he was, I think, had some sexual proclivities that were not, uh, acceptable by modern standards.

• 1:05:29Bill Maher?

  In Tahiti?

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  Cavagio, yeah.

• 1:05:31Bill Maher?

  When he was in Tahiti, I mean?

• 1:05:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, when he was in Tahiti, yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:33Bill Maher?

  He abused the Tahitians?

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:36Bill Maher?

  Oh, I didn't hear about them.

• 1:05:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:39Bill Maher?

  I get my gossip the old-fashioned way from the girls down at the nail salon, so...

• 1:05:47Bill Maher?

  I didn't see that on, is that breaking news on the internet? Oh, Goguen's been cancelled? Oh, fuck, man. Ah, I idolized that guy. Boy, we have no heroes left. Don't tell me Van Gogh.

• 1:06:02Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 1:06:03Bill Maher?

  Don't tell me Van Gogh. Was there something funny with the ear? Don't tell me he cut the ear off so he could fuck it or something weird like that.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:13Bill Maher?

  Somebody would do that.

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  He had a king. This is why my material doesn't work in America, because I'm doing James Mason impressions of my Goguen material.

• 1:06:21Bill Maher?

  Oh, the Goguen, I think the Goguen, I just think the Goguen hunk needs a little work.

• 1:06:28Bill Maher?

  Let me, uh, coach you.

• 1:06:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, my refer, my cultural reference points are just not right for this market. You wanna break me like the Beatles and I just need to.

• 1:06:38Bill Maher?

  You're English. You know, English are more sophisticated. I once did a really, really funny editorial with lots of clips about how American television, especially serious, like, and I don't mean that in a snarky way, I mean some really great shows.

• 1:06:58Bill Maher?

  Episodic shows on the, you know, premium networks, most notably my own HBO. It's always English actors.

• 1:07:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:09Bill Maher?

  Succession.

• 1:07:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:10Bill Maher?

  Game of Thrones. And they're not making them do, I mean, in Succession, they did American accents, but generally, they want the English accent, because especially if you're doing a historical piece, it bestows a certain gravitas.

• 1:07:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:28Bill Maher?

  That American accents just don't.

• 1:07:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:32Bill Maher?

  So, Game of Thrones, why are they, why do they have an English accent? It's a completely made up place.

• 1:07:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:39Bill Maher?

  There's no reason for it, except when you talk like Kevin Costner, you just don't sound as, not that he sounds like that. But I just mean, when you're all American.

• 1:07:49Speaker 04

  No, it's weird.

• 1:07:50Bill Maher?

  It's.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  Him as Robin Hood with his American accent, it really throws you, it's like.

• 1:07:55Bill Maher?

  I mean, when Brad Pitt.

• 1:07:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:57Bill Maher?

  Brad Pitt, he's from Missouri.

• 1:07:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:00Bill Maher?

  That's about as middle American as you can get.

• 1:08:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:03Bill Maher?

  When he did Troy.

• 1:08:05Speaker 04

  Troy, yeah.

• 1:08:06Bill Maher?

  English accent.

• 1:08:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:07Bill Maher?

  Sword. Hand me your sword. Brad Pitt doesn't say sword. Brad Pitt says sword, like I do.

• 1:08:16Bill Maher?

  They don't say Saul.

• 1:08:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:17Bill Maher?

  But it's Troy.

• 1:08:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:19Bill Maher?

  Which is not English.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:21Bill Maher?

  We're talking about Greece in twelve hundred B C.

• 1:08:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Bill Maher?

  This is when that takes place.

• 1:08:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:28Bill Maher?

  Are you looking forward to the Odyssey coming to the theater?

• 1:08:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think it's it's good.

• 1:08:33Bill Maher?

  Christopher Nolan.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Christopher Nolan.

• 1:08:35Bill Maher?

  What do you think? I think it's.

• 1:08:37Speaker 04

  Are you excited to see that?

• 1:08:38Bill Maher?

  I am beyond hard.

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:42Bill Maher?

  As I was an English major.

• 1:08:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:45Bill Maher?

  I read The Odyssey in college, Iliad and The Odyssey.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:49Bill Maher?

  I mean, you know, I would say the first two years of college, I thought, you know, I was gonna do something with my English degree.

• 1:08:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:02Bill Maher?

  Did not.

• 1:09:02Speaker 04

  Did not.

• 1:09:03Bill Maher?

  But I do use English in my career. I mean, that's true.

• 1:09:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:07Bill Maher?

  But I also think it was very helpful that I got a very broad knowledge, probably more like what you typically get in England.

• 1:09:14Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:09:15Bill Maher?

  We don't take education very seriously in this country.

• 1:09:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:18Bill Maher?

  We really don't. But I think you probably still do. And I mean, you feel like you want, I mean, prep school, that that whatever you call it, what is it? What do you call it?

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  A public school.

• 1:09:26Bill Maher?

  No, not. We established you're not. What was it? Eaton?

• 1:09:31Speaker 04

  Eaton, the one I went to.

• 1:09:32Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:33Speaker 04

  Marlborough, Marlborough College.

• 1:09:35Bill Maher?

  College, but you were not college age, what we consider college.

• 1:09:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. It's even more confusing because we don't call, yeah, college is secondary school here.

• 1:09:43Bill Maher?

  Right.

• 1:09:44Speaker 04

  In England, yeah.

• 1:09:46Bill Maher?

  How old were you when you go to this place?

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  I went, I, there I went thirteen. I went to boarding school at ten.

• 1:09:51Bill Maher?

  Thirteen?

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:52Bill Maher?

  So you ripped out of your mother's arms at thirteen?

• 1:09:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:55Bill Maher?

  Was it traumatic?

• 1:09:56Speaker 04

  No, not really. I was a little, I mean, for me, it wasn't too bad. I was, I was only like an hour away from home and I.

• 1:10:02Bill Maher?

  Were you living in a dorm?

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, in a dorm, yeah.

• 1:10:05Bill Maher?

  So you didn't every night go to bed in your own room like I did?

• 1:10:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:10Bill Maher?

  You went to a dorm with with dozens of other kids sleeping in bunk beds?

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:15Bill Maher?

  Really?

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  But I kind of, I, I, I, I mean, some people have a bad experience. I actually, I was okay with it. But like my dad went up. Seven, he was stuck on a train, went up to the north of England, like four hours away from his home and was there for like a months on end. In a Catholic boarding school, raised by monks, it was brutal.

• 1:10:36Bill Maher?

  That is brutal.

• 1:10:37Speaker 04

  My version was like, you know, much more.

• 1:10:40Bill Maher?

  Okay, but like, you say thirteen?

• 1:10:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, thirteen.

• 1:10:43Bill Maher?

  Thirteen, what I remember most about that age was I was masturbating furiously, constantly.

• 1:10:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:51Bill Maher?

  Can you do that in the setting of being in a dorm room with me? I mean, I was luckily, I had my own little room, tiny as it was.

• 1:10:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:10:58Bill Maher?

  It was mine. It was a masturbatorium.

• 1:11:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:01Bill Maher?

  But how could you have that if you were surrounded by other people? Wouldn't they hear the bed shaking?

• 1:11:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think there was probably a lot of that. I mean, that's all the stories of boarding schools.

• 1:11:13Bill Maher?

  But everybody was doing it, so nobody, so nobody cared. It was just, just normal to hear a.

• 1:11:18Speaker 04

  Cacophony.

• 1:11:19Bill Maher?

  A cacophony of frapping?

• 1:11:21Speaker 04

  Frapping, yeah.

• 1:11:22Bill Maher?

  At, at. Lights out?

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  Ten boys with the lights out, wanking themselves into a coma every night.

• 1:11:28Bill Maher?

  So disgusting.

• 1:11:29Speaker 04

  And, but yeah, at least you haven't got your parents downstairs.

• 1:11:32Bill Maher?

  I know, but when you think about.

• 1:11:35Bill Maher?

  All that spilled sperm in one room. I mean.

• 1:11:39Speaker 04

  And some predatory housemaster listening at the door.

• 1:11:42Bill Maher?

  That is the nightmare of the pro-life crowd. I mean, just in one room, the amount of wasted. You know, possible babies.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:54Bill Maher?

  Right?

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. I think if anything even worse, when the, like, you know. Girls sinking themselves, I think there was boys, you know, harmonizing their masturbatory activity.

• 1:12:09Bill Maher?

  Oh, sinking their period?

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I think it was.

• 1:12:13Bill Maher?

  Is that still a thing? Was that ever a thing, or was that a wives tale?

• 1:12:17Speaker 04

  I think that was a one.

• 1:12:18Bill Maher?

  I've always heard that my whole life, that women's, uh, when they're together, is it? That their periods sync up?

• 1:12:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:26Bill Maher?

  It could be.

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  It could be.

• 1:12:28Bill Maher?

  It could be.

• 1:12:29Speaker 04

  It could be.

• 1:12:29Bill Maher?

  They're weird creatures.

• 1:12:31Speaker 04

  It's one of those.

• 1:12:32Bill Maher?

  We don't understand them.

• 1:12:34Speaker 04

  It's one of those things I've been told but never wanted to challenge.

• 1:12:37Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:12:38Speaker 04

  I've just accepted it.

• 1:12:39Bill Maher?

  I feel they're like lemurs. I've heard a lot about them, but I don't really know that much after all these years. I, I, I know they're mammalia, uh, but yeah, that, I mean, it could be. They certainly have, uh, or are brooded to have, but I think they do have more of a, shall we say, intuition? I mean, women's intuition is a, is a old saying.

• 1:13:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:07Bill Maher?

  And I, I don't know. I mean, you think that's true, that they have more intuition than we do?

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:13Bill Maher?

  I do too.

• 1:13:14Speaker 04

  I do. I believe that.

• 1:13:15Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:16Speaker 04

  I believe that more than the period one.

• 1:13:21Speaker 04

  More readily able to believe that.

• 1:13:23Bill Maher?

  No, there's nothing in the world like having a girlfriend, or in your case, a wife, that's smarter than you.

• 1:13:29Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:13:30Bill Maher?

  Maybe not in every way, maybe they don't, you know, know as much about the Ottoman Empire or something. Or the Odyssey. But like, in key ways.

• 1:13:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:41Bill Maher?

  And ways that, yeah, just no matter how old you get, um, just will always elude a man, and it comes.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:50Bill Maher?

  Comes easy to them.

• 1:13:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:52Bill Maher?

  And, uh, you know, I don't follow movies that well.

• 1:13:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:13:56Bill Maher?

  Like, I'm always the guy in the movies going, was that the same guy who had the mustache in the other scene? Oh, oh, so he's working with that. You know, like, like, I need a guy.

• 1:14:07Speaker 04

  I do.

• 1:14:08Bill Maher?

  I'm not that, I'm not that bright with some of the, if it's a really arcane kind of plot, I guess I don't see. I'm supposed to be an observational comedian, but like, I don't see, like, and then I have to be told, oh yeah, see, he took the envelope for the guy and it had the same name. Oh, right. You know.

• 1:14:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:26Bill Maher?

  So, you know.

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  I have to guide my, I wear the other way around. I have to guide my wife through movies and she wants to know the entire plot from the beginning and wants me to tell me, tell her what's going on and then what is about to happen as well. And I'm like, that's not how storytelling works. You don't want me to ruin this for you. Like, you find out. You don't need to know everything. You will learn things by the end of this scene. If I tell you what happens. That I.

• 1:14:52Bill Maher?

  And you'll, and you'll miss the satisfaction.

• 1:14:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Bill Maher?

  Of how the storytellers wanted to unravel that way. That's the satisfaction. You gotta pull back the bulb before you shoot the arrow. All right. Well, I'm gonna release you back into the wild, Jack. It was a pleasure to get to know you.

• 1:15:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:10Bill Maher?

  Um, and I'm sure that America will be greeting you like the Beatles. Really? You're gonna do great here.

• 1:15:17Speaker 04

  Once they hear my tales of mutual masturbation.

• 1:15:20Bill Maher?

  Leave out the, uh, French impressionists.

• 1:15:24Speaker 04

  Right. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:25Bill Maher?

  Not just him.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:15:27Bill Maher?

  Not Ben Go, Matisse.

• 1:15:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, French freshness, avoid that. We're gonna avoid, uh.

• 1:15:35Bill Maher?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:36Speaker 04

  And, and French capital cities wrapping along to those. We're not gonna do any of that.

• 1:15:40Bill Maher?

  No.

• 1:15:40Speaker 04

  You've given me a great, like, blueprint for how to break America.

• 1:15:44Bill Maher?

  All right, bro.

• 1:15:45Speaker 04

  I appreciate it.

• 1:15:47Bill Maher?

  Sorry.

• 1:15:48Speaker 04

  It was a flick.

• 1:15:49Bill Maher?

  They used to do a thing in every military movie. They would do the same gag where the, you know, the admiral and the, thank you, sir. And he salutes and the guy puts his hand, and then they change. Do it. Like, I'll salute and you do the handshake and they.

• 1:16:08Bill Maher?

  It was fun.

• 1:16:09Speaker 04

  I'll text, I'll text Woody and then.

• 1:16:12Bill Maher?

  Yes.

• 1:16:12Speaker 04

  Tell him.

• 1:16:13Bill Maher?

  Tell him we had a ball. And, uh, when you're here, call us. We'll all get together.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I'd love that.

• 1:16:20Bill Maher?

  Come back to the woods. We'll, we'll party there.

• 1:16:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

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  Network freedom and flexibility, that's what you want in a healthcare plan. With a Humana Medicare Advantage PPO plan, you can see any doctor in the country who accepts Medicare, including specialists. No referrals, no kidding. Learn more at gethumana.com. See any doctor who accepts Medicare and is willing to bill Humana. Humana PPOs may not be available in all areas. Benefits and costs share may vary. Humana is a Medicare Advantage PPO organization with a Medicare contract. Enrollment in any Humana plan depends on contract renewal. At Humana, our Medicare Advantage plans are easy to understand and easy on your wallet. Like offering more benefits than you'd get from original Medicare alone. And including dental, vision, and hearing coverage in every plan.

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  And the best part is, every plan has a $0 or low monthly plan premium, which makes it easier to save too. So this Medicare planning season, plan well with Humana. Learn more at gethumana.com. Humana is a Medicare Advantage HMO and PPO organization with a Medicare contract. Enrollment in any Humana plan depends on contract renewal.