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In this crossover episode, Ben Naddaff-Hafrey joins The Dollop hosts Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds to explore the history of Staten Island during the American Revolution. The episode examines how Staten Islanders overwhelmingly opposed the revolution and maintained deep economic ties with the British Crown, supplying them with food, water, and labor while enduring years of military occupation. The conversation highlights the absurd and dramatic conflicts between local loyalist leaders like Colonel Christopher Billip and rebel raiders like Captain Nathaniel Fitz Randolph, who engaged in years of kidnappings, bounties, and guerrilla warfare across the water separating Staten Island and New Jersey. Ultimately, the episode explains how heavy-handed British abuses, including the destruction of local churches and fences for firewood, turned the island's loyalist residents against the crown by the time the war ended.
The episode opens with a brief introduction from Jacob Goldstein and a paid Apple Card message, setting the stage for the crossover content.
Ben Nadeff-Hafer explains his recent appearance on The Dollop and introduces the Staten Island Problem series he covered for Revisionist History.
The narrative shifts to Christopher Billip, a local colonel who supplies the British navy and remains loyal to the Crown, detailing his background and motivations.
The story moves into the July 1775 conflict, including the capture and exchange of Fitz Randolph, the bounty wars, and the island’s continued support for the British.
The hosts cover the complex prisoner exchanges, the New Jersey legislature’s actions, and the eventual imprisonment of Colonel Billip after the war’s escalation.
The episode wraps up with reflections on Staten Island’s unique historical position and its ongoing cultural legacy, tying back to the original Dollop episode.
The hosts discuss the conditions of a captured officer, the letters sent to the Colonel, and the negotiations for his release.
George Washington proposes the Colonel resign to secure his safety, but the Colonel refuses, preferring to command the militia.
Washington leads 2,500 troops across frozen Staten Island to confront the British garrison.
British soldiers strip fences and churches for firewood, devastating the local economy.
The militia’s lack of enthusiasm and the British’s mistreatment of locals are explored.
American forces land, find no resistance, and begin looting Staten Island.
Staten Island As The Forgotten Boroughinsight
The hosts and guest discuss Staten Island's historical identity as the unloved borough and its modern attempts at secession from New York City.
Voting Down Every Congressional Measurestory
Colonel Christopher Billip actively sits in the New York assembly and votes down every measure favoring the Continental Congress to protect local trade.
Swearing Oath To The Crowndata
Over five hundred Staten Island farmers gather in Richmond Town to be sworn into the service of the king as British troops land on the island.
Infiltrating A Loyalist Ballstory
Rebel captain Nathaniel Fitz Randolph sneaks into a loyalist ball on Staten Island to identify and track Colonel Billip before attempting a kidnapping.
Chained Down To A Jail Floorstory
Colonel Billip is sent to prison in New Jersey, chained to the floor, and given only bread and water as retaliation for the imprisonment of American rebels.
Fences Used For British Firewoodinsight
Desperate for heat during the bitter winter, British soldiers tear down farm fences across Staten Island, destroying the local agricultural infrastructure.
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“When I was reporting the Staten Island problem, I spent a day on the island with a Revolutionary War historian named Phil Pappas, learning about how Staten Islanders really did not want the American Revolution to happen.”
“The king's ships, right? And as far as Staten Island is concerned, this is the king's island.”
“George tells him to resign his command of the militia and he can go home.”
“Now, the winter of 1779 into 1780 was the hardest of the century.”
“A minister named Van Pelt, quote, "The British used it gradually up for firewoods." They just used up the whole church.”
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After Ben's Staten Island summer, he sat down with The Dollop https://apple.co/3V0mK8b hosts, comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds, to examine Staten Island during the Revolutionary War. Ben, Dave, and Gareth dive into an extremely niche topic in history. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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