Oliver Tree Explains It All! | Whiskey Ginger

Welcome to Whiskey Ginger a Wave series presented by Fanduel. Andrew Santino sits down with musician, performer, and all-around chaos generator Oliver Tree for a completely unpredictable conversation about music, identity, and committing to the bit at the highest level. They talk about Oliver’s new album, the evolution of his larger-than-life persona, and how blending comedy and music has helped him build one of the most unique careers in entertainment. This episode goes from thoughtful to ridiculous fast and never really comes back. 🎧 Check out Oliver Tree’s new album out now. In this episode:• The creative process behind Oliver’s latest album• Building a character vs being yourself• Santino and Oliver talk fame, performance, and internet culture• Why going all-in is the only strategy that works Drop a comment with your favorite Oliver Tree track. #WhiskeyGinger #AndrewSantino #OliverTree #NewMusic #ComedyPodcast #PodcastClips #MusicPodcast #Comedians =================================================== This episode is sponsored by: FANDUEL Sign up now for your twenty-five dollar bonus on FanDuel Predicts. HEAD TO https://fanduel.com/whiskey TO GET STARTED! MARS MEN For a limited time, our listeners get 50% off FOR LIFE, Free Shipping, AND 3 Free Gifts at Mars Men https://mengotomars.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 2:09Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 2:09Andrew Santino?

  That's a popper's talking dude.

• 2:11Speaker 00

  Uh oh.

• 2:11Andrew Santino?

  We're back.

• 2:13Speaker 00

  You're a big whippets guy.

• 2:14Andrew Santino?

  Whippets, dude, I used to love whippets.

• 2:15Speaker 00

  Dude, you look like a whippets guy.

• 2:16Andrew Santino?

  I was a whippets guy dude.

• 2:18Speaker 00

  I definitely get that vibe from you.

• 2:20Andrew Santino?

  I used to love them. Loved them.

• 2:22Speaker 00

  Big whippets guy myself. I stopped though.

• 2:25Andrew Santino?

  Why?

• 2:26Speaker 00

  Oh, a few weeks ago.

• 2:27Andrew Santino?

  Oh, you did?

• 2:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I was... I mean, not clean entirely. Still do... Microdosing on the mushrooms, but sober besides that.

• 2:36Andrew Santino?

  Wait, you're microdosing mushrooms?

• 2:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, not right now.

• 2:39Andrew Santino?

  Well, how, how many days a week do you do it then?

• 2:40Speaker 00

  I do it about six or seven.

• 2:42Andrew Santino?

  Six or seven days a week?

• 2:43Speaker 00

  But not during business hours.

• 2:44Andrew Santino?

  This is business hours?

• 2:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I only do it once every two to three weeks.

• 2:53Andrew Santino?

  I'm doing beautiful mind math.

• 2:55Speaker 00

  Well, it depends. If it's a business day, I skip holidays. And then I do...

• 3:00Andrew Santino?

  Which holidays though?

• 3:01Speaker 00

  Uh...

• 3:02Andrew Santino?

  Jewish holidays?

• 3:04Speaker 00

  No, we do it on the Jewish holidays.

• 3:05Andrew Santino?

  You do, yeah.

• 3:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:07Andrew Santino?

  You don't respect the Sabbath.

• 3:07Speaker 00

  Mostly just the government mandated holidays.

• 3:09Andrew Santino?

  Anything where the post office is closed, you'll do it?

• 3:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Ideally, those are the best days.

• 3:16Speaker 00

  But yeah, I used to love whippets, man. It's great when you take a lot of drugs and then you do the whippets and... You lose kind of touch with reality and you start going in and out of different time zones.

• 3:28Andrew Santino?

  Hmm. What time zone have you gone to that you like the most?

• 3:31Speaker 00

  I don't know, I never really remember. The whippets, they just make you blackout at a certain point.

• 3:35Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's not good for you.

• 3:36Speaker 00

  First time I did whippets though, I broke my arm. Mountain biking in Whistler and I broke this bone, the humerus, the biggest bone in the body. And I, I went over my handlebars, crashed last run of the last day of the last part of the trip. Fall, break my humerus and then, um... Insane, bro, they picked me up in this big truck, like, it was in the middle of, you know, the snow time, summer slopes, Whistler, B.C., British Canada.

• 4:04Andrew Santino?

  British Columbia.

• 4:06Speaker 00

  British Canada?

• 4:07Andrew Santino?

  But British Canada, sorry, you're right.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  I was in British Canada.

• 4:09Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 4:10Speaker 00

  Uh, B.C. And, bro, the guy, he's like... "There's forty-two thousand pounds in this thing, go to town." He gave me a whole tank. And I was like sixteen at the time, fifteen. So I'm huffing on this thing. And eventually, you know, cause anytime you take it, the pain goes away. It's pretty effective for broken bones. I don't know if you've ever experimented.

• 4:33Andrew Santino?

  Whippets are good for broken bones.

• 4:34Speaker 00

  Very good.

• 4:35Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 4:35Speaker 00

  So I'm taking it, cause anytime the pain comes back, you just start huffing on this thing. Go to town, next thing I know, everything is pink and blue, slow motion. It was quite a trip.

• 4:47Andrew Santino?

  And what did you get out of it?

• 4:48Speaker 00

  Uh, well, actually, this is crazy. So I got very ill afterwards. So for three days, and I'm sure they gave me some other drugs at the hospital. But for three days, so I, I, I had to take suppositories because I couldn't keep anything down. This is the only time in my life I ever had to, um, by not choice. Take it by choice, but not, this was for not choice.

• 5:07Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it was forced.

• 5:08Speaker 00

  Forced.

• 5:08Andrew Santino?

  Mandatory, dude.

• 5:09Speaker 00

  So I threw up on the airplane.

• 5:11Andrew Santino?

  Got it.

• 5:11Speaker 00

  On the train.

• 5:12Andrew Santino?

  Yup.

• 5:12Speaker 00

  And on the bus. It was just puking.

• 5:14Andrew Santino?

  That's your planes, trains, and automobiles. So just puking on every form of public transportation. That's amazing.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  It was amazing.

• 5:19Andrew Santino?

  You were yacked out. And that's why you're so skinny. You lost all that weight.

• 5:22Speaker 00

  No, I've been getting fat.

• 5:23Andrew Santino?

  You were four hundred pounds when I met you, dude.

• 5:25Speaker 00

  No, dude, I was like three fifty, three seventy-five.

• 5:27Andrew Santino?

  Three seventy-five?

• 5:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:28Andrew Santino?

  Wait, what do you mean? You're still skinny. You think you got bigger?

• 5:30Speaker 00

  I've been getting chunky. I, so I did In-N-Out yesterday, Taco Bell the day before. I've been going big or going home.

• 5:35Andrew Santino?

  What's your Taco Bell order?

• 5:36Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, so bean and cheese burrito.

• 5:38Andrew Santino?

  Got it.

• 5:38Speaker 00

  No onions.

• 5:40Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 5:40Speaker 00

  But sometimes I add the extra hot sauce or extra cheese in there or something so that they have to make a fresh one.

• 5:46Andrew Santino?

  Oh.

• 5:47Speaker 00

  So I learned that recently.

• 5:48Andrew Santino?

  Smart.

• 5:49Speaker 00

  But it's been getting me even fatter. Cause I do it with all my, my items. Yeah.

• 5:53Andrew Santino?

  So bean and cheese?

• 5:54Speaker 00

  Bean and cheese, no onions. Uh, then I do the, uh, nachos supreme with the, it's a nacho taco.

• 6:01Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 00

  The Doritos.

• 6:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, the Doritos Los Tacos?

• 6:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:04Andrew Santino?

  You better believe I get those.

• 6:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:05Andrew Santino?

  I love those.

• 6:06Speaker 00

  And then I get a chalupa. And then just for old times sake, I get, uh, the little chips and, uh, cheese dip. That's for my childhood. And, um, and then I get a Baja Blast. Yeah, what about you? What's your order?

• 6:18Andrew Santino?

  Strong order, dude.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  Stop. You say that to every guest.

• 6:21Andrew Santino?

  No, I don't.

• 6:22Speaker 00

  They're your favorite guests and they have a strong Taco Bell order.

• 6:24Andrew Santino?

  Strong order.

• 6:25Speaker 00

  What's your order?

• 6:26Andrew Santino?

  Three cheese and gerdita crunches.

• 6:28Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 6:28Andrew Santino?

  Two Doritos Los Tacos.

• 6:29Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 6:30Andrew Santino?

  No tomato.

• 6:32Speaker 00

  Wait, because you're a gerd.

• 6:34Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 6:34Speaker 00

  Acid reflux.

• 6:35Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, acid reflux. I can't have it. No raw tomatoes. Cooked tomato, fine.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:40Andrew Santino?

  Raw tomato?

• 6:40Speaker 00

  Well, because you're Italian, right?

• 6:42Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 6:42Speaker 00

  You're Irish Italian?

• 6:43Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, Irish and Italian.

• 6:44Speaker 00

  Are you Irish Italian?

• 6:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I'm Irish and Italian. So what I can do is I can have stewed tomatoes, sun dried tomatoes. But I can't have none of them raw tomatoes. I don't like that stuff.

• 6:56Speaker 00

  Is it because you don't like it or because of the acid reflux?

• 6:58Andrew Santino?

  Acid reflux, yeah, I'm an old white guy, yeah.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  You get it bad?

• 7:00Andrew Santino?

  I'll get it so bad. I'll be in the middle of the night going.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Wait, you're pretty gassy?

• 7:05Andrew Santino?

  Gassy boy, dude.

• 7:06Speaker 00

  Me too.

• 7:07Andrew Santino?

  That's what my wife says, gassy boy.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:09Andrew Santino?

  She goes, alright, gassy boy, take your butt down to the bathroom, gassy boy.

• 7:13Speaker 00

  Wait, is she from Jamaica?

• 7:14Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Born and raised, gassy boy.

• 7:16Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 7:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Well, you don't think I, you don't think I can go to Jamaica?

• 7:20Speaker 00

  No, I, I thought you could do whatever you put your mind to. You're a guy who has very powerful heart and soul. I think whatever you put your mind to, no problem.

• 7:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I mean, she fell in love with me. Uh, I was on the island and uh.

• 7:31Speaker 00

  What island?

• 7:32Andrew Santino?

  Jamaica.

• 7:33Speaker 00

  Really?

• 7:33Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 7:34Speaker 00

  Have you been?

• 7:34Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 7:36Speaker 00

  You'd love it.

• 7:36Andrew Santino?

  I do wanna go.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  It's crazy. It's another world out there, man.

• 7:40Andrew Santino?

  I'm, I'm gonna go, I'm going to Dominican Republic soon. That's gonna be fun, going down to the DR. I don't know, dude. I, I genuinely don't know.

• 7:47Speaker 00

  You should go to Haiti.

• 7:49Andrew Santino?

  Haiti?

• 7:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. Good time to go. Stuff is cheap there right now.

• 7:53Andrew Santino?

  What about Mexico? Should I go?

• 7:54Speaker 00

  Love it. Big fucking fan of Mexico, bro. I've been over twenty times.

• 7:58Andrew Santino?

  Little dangerous right now.

• 7:59Speaker 00

  Hmm, depends. Puerto Vallarta, definitely more rough. I've been there too. Beautiful place, but maybe not this moment. Wait for things to chill.

• 8:06Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 8:07Speaker 00

  Mexico City is top five cities in the entire world.

• 8:09Andrew Santino?

  City is phenomenal.

• 8:10Speaker 00

  Phenomenal. Some of the best food you'll ever find.

• 8:12Andrew Santino?

  And some of the prettiest women.

• 8:15Speaker 00

  Can't say that, you're married now.

• 8:16Andrew Santino?

  I can still see pretty people.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  Can't say that.

• 8:18Andrew Santino?

  You're a beautiful man. Can I not say that you're a beautiful man?

• 8:20Speaker 00

  Stop. You say that to all your guests.

• 8:22Andrew Santino?

  I do, actually. We have said that the last five guests in a row.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  Well, thank you.

• 8:25Andrew Santino?

  Name me a place that I need to go to, that you went to that changed your life around the world.

• 8:30Speaker 00

  There's so many. I mean, easy ones to go to as far as top five.

• 8:34Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 00

  Antarctica.

• 8:36Andrew Santino?

  You went. How long were you there?

• 8:37Speaker 00

  Twice. About to go back for my third time.

• 8:40Andrew Santino?

  Whoa.

• 8:41Speaker 00

  Uh, I, you go there for about ten days.

• 8:43Andrew Santino?

  What are you doing up there, dude? Or down there?

• 8:46Speaker 00

  Okay, so the first time, though, I stayed for an extended period of time. So I did.

• 8:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  A long, long.

• 8:53Andrew Santino?

  Stay?

• 8:54Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 8:55Andrew Santino?

  And you were doing research?

• 8:56Speaker 00

  Research? I play some concerts, um, on the tour boats.

• 9:00Andrew Santino?

  Got you.

• 9:00Speaker 00

  So, I do, I've done six sets so far.

• 9:04Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 9:04Speaker 00

  So, some performance DJing with some singing, ambient sets as well. I do it for the yoga.

• 9:10Andrew Santino?

  Ah.

• 9:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, we did, uh, there was a shaman there and we, actually it was with my parents and we, we call it hippie flipping. We did mushrooms and ecstasy.

• 9:19Andrew Santino?

  Hippie flipping. What's candy flipping? Is that acid?

• 9:21Speaker 00

  Candy flipping is acid and ecstasy.

• 9:23Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's fun too.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  I used to be a big fan of that.

• 9:25Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, high school.

• 9:25Speaker 00

  But I stopped. I haven't done acid since my Burning Man trip.

• 9:29Andrew Santino?

  When was that? Last year?

• 9:30Speaker 00

  That was 2016.

• 9:32Andrew Santino?

  Oh, 2016?

• 9:32Speaker 00

  No, I was 17. So that was a long time ago.

• 9:36Andrew Santino?

  Long time ago, dude.

• 9:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm 42 now.

• 9:38Andrew Santino?

  No, you're not.

• 9:39Speaker 00

  How old are you?

• 9:40Andrew Santino?

  Forty-two.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  Shut the front door. Are you actually?

• 9:43Andrew Santino?

  I am. How old am I? Forty-two. Forty-two.

• 9:45Speaker 00

  No fucking way. We're both 42. This is so crazy.

• 9:49Andrew Santino?

  But what's the big difference between you and I? We're both 42, but you?

• 9:51Speaker 00

  But you?

• 9:52Andrew Santino?

  But you?

• 9:53Speaker 00

  Get the three cheesy cornedita crunches.

• 9:55Andrew Santino?

  That's right, dude, like a big boy and you just get bean and cheese. No, I yon. And then what I do is?

• 10:01Speaker 00

  Are you French now?

• 10:02Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, I yon.

• 10:03Speaker 00

  Okay, wait, what were you gonna say?

• 10:05Andrew Santino?

  What I do when I'm done with Taco Bell?

• 10:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:08Andrew Santino?

  When I'm done ordering?

• 10:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:09Andrew Santino?

  Because I don't want my wife to get mad at me because I got, because she doesn't like that I have junk food sometimes at night when I come home from shows. So I eat it in the car. I pull over somewhere in a nice little park and I eat it in the car like a little fat boy.

• 10:20Speaker 00

  Yep, my grandpa used to do that.

• 10:21Andrew Santino?

  Eat it like a little fat sad boy in the car and I listen to some tunes that I like. I usually listen to-

• 10:25Speaker 00

  What kind of tunes you play?

• 10:26Andrew Santino?

  Heavy metal. I always like-

• 10:27Speaker 00

  No shit?

• 10:27Andrew Santino?

  When I have Taco Bell?

• 10:28Speaker 00

  What kind of shit?

• 10:28Andrew Santino?

  Metal, dude. Megadeth?

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Megadeth. I didn't take you as a Megadeth.

• 10:32Andrew Santino?

  Only when I'm eating Taco Bell.

• 10:34Speaker 00

  Really?

• 10:34Andrew Santino?

  I just went like-

• 10:39Speaker 00

  I love that shit.

• 10:40Andrew Santino?

  And then, but then when I'm done with Taco Bell, I throw it away and then it's only classical music on the way home.

• 10:45Speaker 00

  I love that. So my whole experience of making music is based on a memory from my childhood, eating at Taco Bell with my father.

• 10:53Andrew Santino?

  No way.

• 10:53Speaker 00

  And there was a song, I can't remember the name of the song or what it was, but my entire experience making music is trying to recreate that feeling, that song that I heard in Taco Bell, because it's a very warm, happy place for me.

• 11:04Andrew Santino?

  You and your pop?

• 11:04Speaker 00

  Comfort food. Me and pops. Going there, mom doesn't know, not allowed. My mom's a hippie, right?

• 11:10Andrew Santino?

  She doesn't like that kind of crap.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  She does not allow it. I remember one time I went to a Rite Aid, I thought I was cool because I wasn't in the- Organic health food store.

• 11:17Andrew Santino?

  Because you lived in that when you were a kid.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  That was my whole life. That's all I knew.

• 11:21Andrew Santino?

  And you, and your dad did this, he would sneak you out.

• 11:23Speaker 00

  He was a bad dad.

• 11:24Andrew Santino?

  He was a bad boy.

• 11:24Speaker 00

  Take me to Burger King, Taco Bell.

• 11:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 11:28Speaker 00

  Made me an addict for life, dog.

• 11:29Andrew Santino?

  That's a cool dad.

• 11:30Speaker 00

  That's one cool dude.

• 11:31Andrew Santino?

  Your dad is the man.

• 11:32Speaker 00

  He's the fucking man.

• 11:33Andrew Santino?

  Because he was like, you know what? I'm gonna have a moment with my son, we're gonna share something private and cool, and it's just for us.

• 11:40Speaker 00

  Just for us.

• 11:40Andrew Santino?

  And you're not doing anything wrong, you're just...

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Well...

• 11:43Andrew Santino?

  I mean, mom wouldn't like it, but you're not hurting anybody.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  No, the only problem is now I'm hooked.

• 11:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, we are all hooked.

• 11:48Speaker 00

  I can't stop.

• 11:49Andrew Santino?

  You can't stop, dude.

• 11:51Speaker 00

  I don't wanna stop.

• 11:52Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but that influenced your music career, and by the way, easy transition, but I do wanna plug it. You got an album.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  Stop.

• 11:59Andrew Santino?

  April 24th.

• 12:00Speaker 00

  Is that when it's coming out?

• 12:01Andrew Santino?

  That's when it's coming out, man.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  Bro, you know before me, where are you getting this information?

• 12:08Speaker 00

  Cause I didn't even know that, I don't know where you're getting this info.

• 12:10Andrew Santino?

  I'm tuned in, dog. Up here, I'm tuned in.

• 12:13Speaker 00

  I thought it was the 21st, so that's crazy.

• 12:14Andrew Santino?

  Nope, better not be. Better not be.

• 12:16Speaker 00

  You're probably right, I have no idea.

• 12:18Andrew Santino?

  Cause we're throwing you a huge party. When, when is that party?

• 12:20Speaker 00

  Wait, you're gonna, you're gonna be there?

• 12:21Andrew Santino?

  April 24th is what it says. Is it the 21st?

• 12:23Speaker 00

  No, no, you're probably right, I have no idea. What, does that fall on a Friday?

• 12:27Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 12:27Speaker 00

  Then you're right.

• 12:29Andrew Santino?

  Totally.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  That's amazing, man.

• 12:31Andrew Santino?

  I'd be really bummed out, because we, yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 00

  What's the album's name?

• 12:36Andrew Santino?

  Love You Madly? Hate You Deeply?

• 12:39Speaker 00

  Hate You Badly.

• 12:39Andrew Santino?

  Hate You Badly. Love You Madly, Hate You Badly. I was right there. Love You Madly, Hate You Badly.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:46Andrew Santino?

  And that's based on a moment in your, in your life that happened?

• 12:48Speaker 00

  That's based on...

• 12:49Andrew Santino?

  Something that someone said to you.

• 12:51Speaker 00

  Well, not just someone. A certain someone by the name of Bobby Lee.

• 12:56Andrew Santino?

  You wanna squash this beef, or do you wanna keep it moving?

• 12:58Speaker 00

  I don't know if, if now's the right time.

• 13:01Andrew Santino?

  For people that don't know, you should go back and watch Bad Friends. When OT came on Bad Friends, and I gotta tell ya, a war was started in a weird way. You didn't start it.

• 13:12Speaker 00

  I didn't do shit.

• 13:13Andrew Santino?

  I, I'll tell you what.

• 13:14Speaker 00

  I never, ever do anything.

• 13:16Andrew Santino?

  Bobby Lee started it. He's always the instigator. And he's been...

• 13:23Andrew Santino?

  He's been talking a lot of shit about you and I don't really like it. Cause he knows that we're cool and he's like, "I don't like that dude, I don't want him around."

• 13:30Speaker 00

  He's honestly just bad vibes.

• 13:32Andrew Santino?

  He's bad, bad vibes.

• 13:34Speaker 00

  Like, he's like, he's sober, right?

• 13:36Andrew Santino?

  So they say, right?

• 13:37Speaker 00

  He claims.

• 13:38Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he claims.

• 13:39Speaker 00

  Something's off. I can't put my finger on it. I don't know, maybe he's just such a deep video game addict. That it's destroyed part of his frontal cortex.

• 13:46Andrew Santino?

  Well, this is all gone. A lot of it is just gone. Like, right?

• 13:50Speaker 00

  There's not much left going on up there.

• 13:51Andrew Santino?

  They tested, I think they did a test on, half of his frontal cortex is, is kind of like, it's gray matter now. Like, nothing's there.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  And he had a underdeveloped frontal lobe, right?

• 14:01Andrew Santino?

  A hundred percent, yeah.

• 14:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, you could tell by the shape of his head.

• 14:04Andrew Santino?

  Shape of his head, yeah. Cause it protrudes, right? He has a protrusion.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  Well, he kinda looks like a Neanderthal. You ever seen that?

• 14:09Andrew Santino?

  A little bit of a Neanderthal.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  Just kinda like the way that his forehead's shaped.

• 14:12Andrew Santino?

  It's lump, a lot of forward weight. And his jawline too, cause it's folded in and up. So, it talks, it's weird.

• 14:20Speaker 00

  You sound like a physician where you're gonna, wait, are you like a...

• 14:23Andrew Santino?

  I went to med school, man.

• 14:24Speaker 00

  Right.

• 14:24Andrew Santino?

  I never graduated.

• 14:25Speaker 00

  What's his facial rating?

• 14:27Andrew Santino?

  His face rating is, uh, 12, 16, 4. So, a perfect rating, of course, is 10, 12, 8. So, he's off. The 8, the 4 differentials because of his, uh, this is called your, your colaxial. Your colaxial nerve that runs down through here.

• 14:45Speaker 00

  Right.

• 14:45Andrew Santino?

  His colaxial protrusion is significantly less than what would be considered good-looking. Whatever people say, I don't, as, in medical terms,

• 14:53Speaker 00

  Right.

• 14:53Andrew Santino?

  we call it, uh, it's called V, it's, well, the tech, it's called VA, meaning visually, uh, uh, uh, applicable. Visually applicable. Visually appealing is kind of the street term.

• 15:06Speaker 00

  Right, right, right.

• 15:07Andrew Santino?

  But he's not visually appealing. So, people see him, they get scared.

• 15:10Speaker 00

  It's crazy, cause I knew something was off, but I didn't know how to put it into medical terms.

• 15:14Andrew Santino?

  Well, it's science. Yeah, a lot of it's science, but you, your rating, cause we rated you, we actually pulled it up. You're one, you're one off from being a perfect visual face. Do you know that?

• 15:23Speaker 00

  You're making this up.

• 15:23Andrew Santino?

  No. We rated you, we had...

• 15:25Speaker 00

  Is it the nose?

• 15:26Andrew Santino?

  It is, unfortunately, yeah. But everything else was perfect, dude. Everything else was perfect. We ran it through the system. Well, cause look, dude.

• 15:32Speaker 00

  Oh, god.

• 15:32Andrew Santino?

  Men love you, women love you, and so you kind of are able to dance in any sort of beautiful world.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  When I was 18. I made the decision. My parents wanted to go against us, but I was old enough to make the decision and I went and I got a nose augmentation.

• 15:47Andrew Santino?

  You got your nose done, wow.

• 15:48Speaker 00

  No. Bigger.

• 15:50Andrew Santino?

  You wanted it bigger? Whoa, that's cool.

• 15:55Speaker 00

  Dude, I'm getting fucking calls. I gotta turn this shit off.

• 15:57Andrew Santino?

  No, take the call right now. Take it.

• 15:59Speaker 00

  I think it's my doctor.

• 16:00Andrew Santino?

  What has he got to say?

• 16:01Speaker 00

  I got an appointment.

• 16:02Andrew Santino?

  What are we talking?

• 16:03Speaker 00

  Eight thirty. Dude, I think I got an ulcer.

• 16:05Andrew Santino?

  Where?

• 16:07Speaker 00

  It's not fucking funny, dude. I was shitting out blood this weekend.

• 16:10Andrew Santino?

  You poop blood?

• 16:13Speaker 00

  I know.

• 16:14Andrew Santino?

  Two things though.

• 16:15Speaker 00

  What?

• 16:15Andrew Santino?

  Could be hemorrhoid?

• 16:17Speaker 00

  No. I've been taking other medicine.

• 16:19Andrew Santino?

  Or have you been eating blood?

• 16:23Andrew Santino?

  Cause if you've been eating blood, you will poop it out. That's something that we did learn.

• 16:26Speaker 00

  Where did you learn that?

• 16:28Andrew Santino?

  We had to do, we did an experiment where we started eating blood for a week and a half because we wanted to see what it would do.

• 16:33Speaker 00

  Well, you know what?

• 16:34Andrew Santino?

  Where do we, where, where do we get the blood?

• 16:36Speaker 00

  It turns black.

• 16:37Andrew Santino?

  Wait, what?

• 16:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, sometimes. Now it's red. So it's fresh.

• 16:41Andrew Santino?

  You gotta go see the doc.

• 16:42Speaker 00

  I, I've set it up. It's, dude, the closest they could get me in is in a week. And that's a week just to get an appointment to go do and get another appointment.

• 16:50Andrew Santino?

  To go get another appointment, to go get another appointment, to go get another appointment.

• 16:53Speaker 00

  It's fucking insane, man. The system is insane.

• 16:56Andrew Santino?

  See, we just do our own experiments. That's why we went and got blood and we started to eat.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  Where'd you get the blood again?

• 16:59Andrew Santino?

  Del Taco.

• 17:00Speaker 00

  No fucking way.

• 17:01Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they have it on the.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  In the back?

• 17:02Andrew Santino?

  No, they have it on their, on their disc, on their, what is that, dollar menu?

• 17:04Speaker 00

  You sure it wasn't hot sauce? No wonder you were shitting blood.

• 17:07Andrew Santino?

  Wait, was that hot sauce? Were you lying?

• 17:10Speaker 00

  It was the red spicy stuff, right?

• 17:12Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, he said it was blood. Is blood not spicy?

• 17:14Speaker 00

  Blood? No, it's more of a metallic. It tastes like a penny.

• 17:17Andrew Santino?

  How do you know?

• 17:18Speaker 00

  I, dude, I used to take, I had an ulcer before. I had to take, uh, is it iodine pills? What's the?

• 17:24Andrew Santino?

  Uh, iron? Ida, Ida, iron pills.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  Iron, bro. I'm, I'm off. I slept like four hours, so my brain's not functioning.

• 17:30Andrew Santino?

  What's wrong with you? Why don't you get any sleep?

• 17:32Speaker 00

  Bro, I was playing chess till five thirty. I just started playing last week dude, now I'm addicted. I was watching North Korean documentaries while playing chess, bro.

• 17:43Andrew Santino?

  That sounds good.

• 17:43Speaker 00

  I went up like a hundred points in my rating.

• 17:46Andrew Santino?

  Wait a minute, could you, could you beat someone that's good now? Are you that good? No.

• 17:51Speaker 00

  I just started last week, man.

• 17:52Andrew Santino?

  So what dude, you could be a savant.

• 17:54Speaker 00

  I think I might be.

• 17:55Andrew Santino?

  I watched that documentary about that girl who was the Russian chess player. What was that, what was that girl's name? There was just a documentary about her. And she beat like everybody in the world and it made me wanna play chess.

• 18:05Speaker 00

  Did you play?

• 18:05Andrew Santino?

  No, I don't like it.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  Bro, it's so addicting, don't start. Don't start.

• 18:08Andrew Santino?

  But you gotta be smart to do it dude, I can't do that.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 18:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah dude.

• 18:12Speaker 00

  You think so?

• 18:13Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, to make moves, what is it called?

• 18:15Speaker 02

  Queen of Chess.

• 18:15Andrew Santino?

  Queen of Chess, dude you gotta watch it.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  Wait, I saw it, Queen's Gambit.

• 18:18Andrew Santino?

  No, that's a TV show dude, but that was good. Queen of Chess?

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 00

  It's a documentary?

• 18:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, what was her name?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  By, it's about Hungarian prodigy Judit Polgar.

• 18:29Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, Judit Polgar.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  I don't know her.

• 18:31Andrew Santino?

  Judit Borgar.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  I haven't heard of her, but I'll need to check it out.

• 18:34Andrew Santino?

  She's the shit. She's probably one of the greatest chess players to ever walk the earth.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  Better than Magnus. I'm a big Magnus guy.

• 18:42Andrew Santino?

  You're a Magnus guy?

• 18:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:44Andrew Santino?

  Look, he's one of the best. What about Bobby Fischer? Are you a fish dog?

• 18:46Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 18:47Andrew Santino?

  You don't like fish?

• 18:47Speaker 00

  Well, what's his name?

• 18:49Andrew Santino?

  Bobby Fischer.

• 18:50Speaker 00

  First name?

• 18:51Andrew Santino?

  Robert.

• 18:52Speaker 00

  Bobby.

• 18:53Andrew Santino?

  Bobby. And you don't like anybody named Bobby?

• 18:55Speaker 00

  No, it brings me back to a very dark place.

• 18:57Andrew Santino?

  So no one named Robert, Bob or Bobby can get by you?

• 19:00Speaker 00

  No, cuz I had a falling out too with Logic, whose name is Bobby as well.

• 19:03Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, Bobby, that's his, his name too.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  We had a big falling out.

• 19:05Andrew Santino?

  What, you did his mov-

• 19:06Speaker 00

  I acted in his movie. You were supposed to be in it too, no?

• 19:08Andrew Santino?

  I know, we were on the road. I couldn't do it. I was on tour.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  You big timed him.

• 19:12Andrew Santino?

  Nah dude.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  Bobby came and he sat in a hotel room, he claimed I gave him fucking monkey pox, it's fucking bullshit. I only had one, there was only one, I think it was just-

• 19:21Andrew Santino?

  It was one notch, I saw, he sent me a photo. But he got really sick dude.

• 19:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, he looked bad.

• 19:25Andrew Santino?

  His lips got all like swollen and sealed up. I would want-

• 19:28Speaker 00

  I thought, I, maybe mine was a mosquito bite, I don't, I don't know.

• 19:31Andrew Santino?

  I don't think so dude, it didn't look like it. Did you get it, is it still there?

• 19:34Speaker 00

  I don't wanna show it.

• 19:35Andrew Santino?

  Okay, don't worry about it. No, that's my long sleeve only. I didn't do Bobby's movie because I was out of town. I was on tour, man. We couldn't do it.

• 19:41Speaker 00

  Wait, Bobby which? Bobby Lee?

• 19:43Andrew Santino?

  Logical. Logic.

• 19:45Speaker 00

  Logical?

• 19:45Andrew Santino?

  Logical. Sorry, logic.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  See, you're thinking in chess terms now.

• 19:48Andrew Santino?

  I know. I want to be logical when I'm talking about moving a pawn. No, I want to do Logic's movie and I couldn't. I was on tour, but, but you had a beef with him because of what happened on set.

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, we had a falling out.

• 19:59Andrew Santino?

  It was bad, right?

• 20:00Speaker 00

  It was really bad. And then he came after me and basically we had an actual falling out because we were both playing Red Rocks and we were both slated to play the same day. So remember last time when I came to Bad Friends, I tried to get Bobby?

• 20:12Andrew Santino?

  Yup.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  Bobby Lee?

• 20:13Andrew Santino?

  Yup.

• 20:13Speaker 00

  To open up for me at Red Rocks?

• 20:15Andrew Santino?

  He wouldn't do it.

• 20:16Speaker 00

  Big time me.

• 20:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, I don't like that kind of behavior, man.

• 20:18Speaker 00

  That, dude, and I was giving him the opportunity of a lifetime. But he plays for what? 10, 20 guys playing the same material?

• 20:23Andrew Santino?

  30 people.

• 20:24Speaker 00

  30 people. And he's getting naked every night?

• 20:26Andrew Santino?

  Every night.

• 20:27Speaker 00

  He still does that?

• 20:28Andrew Santino?

  Every night.

• 20:28Speaker 00

  How is that legal?

• 20:30Andrew Santino?

  Uh, for, for short-statured Asian men, it is still legal in the United States.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  I see. So it's a size thing?

• 20:35Andrew Santino?

  It is, 100%.

• 20:36Speaker 00

  And he's allowed to smoke cigarettes while he does it?

• 20:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Indoors?

• 20:40Andrew Santino?

  Indoors.

• 20:40Speaker 00

  Because it's part of the act?

• 20:42Andrew Santino?

  Part of his act, yeah.

• 20:43Speaker 00

  Is that actually legal?

• 20:44Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it is.

• 20:44Speaker 00

  What about when there's kids in the audience? Birthday parties, quinceañeras, bar mitzvahs?

• 20:49Andrew Santino?

  Gotta be 18 and over. And he doesn't do quinceañeras anymore.

• 20:51Speaker 00

  He stopped after the accident?

• 20:52Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, because after the accident, it got bad at the park. It's bad. He fell and it was bad. For people that don't know, Bobby got hurt. He did a quinceañera five to seven years ago, something about that. And they had blindfolded-

• 21:05Speaker 00

  It was all in the news, too. I saw it.

• 21:06Andrew Santino?

  Well, yeah, it made KTLA. They had, blindfolded a couple of kids. They were swinging at a pinata and one of them took off the blindfold and he said, "Look, they got a human pinata." And they started swinging at Bobby and

• 21:17Speaker 00

  That was bad.

• 21:17Andrew Santino?

  this kid beat him within an inch of his life.

• 21:19Speaker 00

  To a pulp, really. I mean, he was-

• 21:21Andrew Santino?

  Well, it was his fault.

• 21:21Speaker 00

  And dude, the thing is, the crazy part is it actually helped the protrusion.

• 21:25Andrew Santino?

  Oh, yeah. From his coactive, colectical, yeah.

• 21:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:27Andrew Santino?

  It did definitely help. But, um, and God bless that young man that, that did that. It wasn't his fault. You know, he didn't know. He didn't know what he was doing. He just saw Bobby.

• 21:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, because the kid had glasses. He was-

• 21:37Andrew Santino?

  He was legally blind.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:39Andrew Santino?

  His right eye was legally blind.

• 21:40Speaker 00

  Bro, I'm getting texts. I need to-

• 21:42Andrew Santino?

  Call your doctor, dude.

• 21:43Speaker 03

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• 23:01Speaker 00

  This is so fucking stupid, dude. They're not supposed to be texting me.

• 23:04Andrew Santino?

  Why did your doctor text you?

• 23:06Speaker 00

  That's what I'm saying, bro. I just set up an appointment in the ride.

• 23:09Andrew Santino?

  You did?

• 23:10Speaker 00

  Riding over here, I'm making calls, bro, like a mogul.

• 23:12Andrew Santino?

  How cool was Red Rocks, by the way?

• 23:14Speaker 00

  I hate it.

• 23:14Andrew Santino?

  What?

• 23:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:16Andrew Santino?

  Why?

• 23:16Speaker 00

  Bro, I played it like 3, 4 times now.

• 23:18Andrew Santino?

  Why do you hate it?

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Bad memories.

• 23:21Andrew Santino?

  Bad memories of what?

• 23:24Speaker 00

  No one came.

• 23:26Andrew Santino?

  It was empty? Damn, dude.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  No, there was like 15 people there. But it's like, it's like, I think you can have like 8 and a half, 9,000?

• 23:36Andrew Santino?

  How many people does Red Rocks fit? I wanna say it's gotta be 10,000?

• 23:40Speaker 00

  Just shy, just shy.

• 23:41Andrew Santino?

  9,555.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  See, and that's what I'm saying, bro.

• 23:45Andrew Santino?

  And how many people came?

• 23:46Speaker 00

  9,525. There was like 25 people there. It felt so weird, bro. It's eerie when it's empty like that.

• 23:54Andrew Santino?

  But you did it again, anyway.

• 23:57Speaker 00

  Just to see.

• 23:58Andrew Santino?

  Just to see, man. Will you do it again? Yeah, dude, you got it. But next time, you're opening up, dude.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  I'll do it. We could do with MasterCard. We can get some kinda, dude, brand partnership.

• 24:10Andrew Santino?

  We have a deal.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  This could be big for both of us.

• 24:12Andrew Santino?

  I think we have a deal with, uh, we have a deal with, uh, Diners Club.

• 24:14Speaker 00

  Diners Club?

• 24:15Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Is that like the Big Bear Diner?

• 24:17Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, Big Bear Diner. They have their own credit card system.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  Really?

• 24:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 24:20Speaker 00

  Wait, are you actually tied to the credit card companies?

• 24:22Andrew Santino?

  We're very tied, we're tied very deep. Well, because McConaughey's in a hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars in debt, we said we would work it off by doing ads.

• 24:30Speaker 00

  Right.

• 24:30Andrew Santino?

  For Diners Club.

• 24:31Speaker 00

  That's very kind of you.

• 24:32Andrew Santino?

  We did Amex, we did Visa, we did Discover.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  MasterCard.

• 24:37Andrew Santino?

  MasterCard, and now we're doing the Diners Club, the Bears, Bears Club, Diners Club.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  That's so dope.

• 24:43Andrew Santino?

  But we paid off half of it. Which is kinda great.

• 24:45Speaker 00

  And how long did that take?

• 24:47Andrew Santino?

  Six years, six years, five and a half years. So we have, if we do this for five more years, we'll be able to pay off McConaughey's debt, and most of his debt went to, well, what he spent all the money on was buying flights for himself to go overseas to help, um, victims of, of tragedies. So, we thought they would wash it.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  Dude, you're a stand-up guy.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 25:09Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, anytime there was anything bad around the world, he'd get on a plane and go over there and help. Anytime, name a time that was bad around the world. Go ahead.

• 25:18Speaker 00

  World War II.

• 25:18Andrew Santino?

  Oh, guess who was there? McConaughey.

• 25:21Speaker 00

  You were alive?

• 25:23Andrew Santino?

  Yep. Yep.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  That's fucking crazy. See, you look younger than you are.

• 25:28Andrew Santino?

  Moisturized, dog. He moisturizes.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  If you're good, if a good person, you don't age as much.

• 25:33Andrew Santino?

  You don't age if you're a good person. That's what they say. That's why you look super, super young.

• 25:36Speaker 00

  Stop, stop.

• 25:37Andrew Santino?

  Cause you're a good dude.

• 25:38Speaker 00

  Well.

• 25:38Andrew Santino?

  And that's why Bobby looks old and haggard.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  And how old is he? Isn't he like seventy now?

• 25:43Andrew Santino?

  Seventeen or eighteen? How old is Bobby?

• 25:46Speaker 02

  And no one knows.

• 25:47Andrew Santino?

  Nobody knows.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  He's gotta be at least seventy or eighty years old.

• 25:50Andrew Santino?

  He's gotta be in his sixties. I think he is. I mean, we don't really talk about it. We don't really know.

• 25:53Speaker 00

  Right. It's kind of a sensitive topic for him, too.

• 25:56Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, tremendously. Yeah, it is, very much.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  He's aging horribly.

• 26:00Andrew Santino?

  Some people don't get old well.

• 26:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:02Andrew Santino?

  You know what I mean?

• 26:03Speaker 00

  He's one of them.

• 26:04Andrew Santino?

  He's the one, I guess, if you looked it up. Who's the most famous blind guy on earth?

• 26:09Speaker 00

  Stevie Wonder.

• 26:10Andrew Santino?

  Right?

• 26:11Speaker 00

  Stevie Ray Vaughan?

• 26:12Andrew Santino?

  Stevie Wonder.

• 26:13Speaker 00

  What's the guy, Ray Charles?

• 26:15Andrew Santino?

  Stevie Ray Charles, Wonder?

• 26:17Speaker 00

  Ray Charles is blind too, right?

• 26:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but he, is he dead?

• 26:20Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. But isn't, didn't they say the whole thing was Stevie Wonder, it was fake?

• 26:25Andrew Santino?

  I don't know, dude.

• 26:25Speaker 00

  They found out.

• 26:26Andrew Santino?

  Well, let me tell you something. I was at a restaurant not too long ago.

• 26:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:29Andrew Santino?

  And someone at our table was not from America.

• 26:32Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:33Andrew Santino?

  Sweet girl. She didn't really speak English. She was with a friend of ours. And someone at the table goes, "Oh, my God, it's Stevie Wonder." And she turned around and she waved right at him.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  No fucking way.

• 26:43Andrew Santino?

  I swear to God, that's a true story. She waved right at him, yeah.

• 26:47Speaker 00

  He was there?

• 26:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, at this restaurant we went to. And guess what?

• 26:49Speaker 00

  What was the spot?

• 26:51Andrew Santino?

  Right here in Hollywood.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  Jesus, what?

• 26:54Andrew Santino?

  He waved back.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  He waved back? Are you fucking kidding me?

• 26:57Andrew Santino?

  I think he's a liar.

• 26:58Speaker 00

  Bro, that's what I'm saying. There was multiple things, because I knew someone who played a concert with them. And he was walking up on the stage and then he said, "Keep walking."

• 27:07Andrew Santino?

  So he's, so he is...

• 27:08Speaker 00

  He said, "Just pass."

• 27:09Andrew Santino?

  So he's a liar.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  No, I don't know if he's a liar. I'm not gonna say it.

• 27:11Andrew Santino?

  Okay, so how about this? So he's a seer.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Well, here's the thing.

• 27:15Andrew Santino?

  He's a seer, dude.

• 27:16Speaker 00

  To be considered legally blind, you can still sometimes see shapes. It's not like you're just seeing pitch black.

• 27:22Andrew Santino?

  Some people do see pitch black.

• 27:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do they?

• 27:25Andrew Santino?

  Yes, some people are completely blind.

• 27:27Speaker 00

  Can we look that up?

• 27:28Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, what are the populations on the earth that's completely blind?

• 27:29Speaker 00

  Can we confirm that? I don't know if that's true.

• 27:31Andrew Santino?

  Do you have trouble with your vision?

• 27:32Speaker 00

  I have really bad vision, actually.

• 27:33Andrew Santino?

  What are your numbers?

• 27:34Speaker 00

  Because I'm getting older. I think, I don't, I haven't done a test, but I need glasses. Like, I'm having trouble reading what even that says on the wall.

• 27:42Andrew Santino?

  What does that say in the yellow? Can you see, can you read that?

• 27:48Speaker 00

  Is that a Kill Bill poster?

• 27:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah. Kind of.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 27:53Andrew Santino?

  It's a, it's a poster from Kid Super, the designer. Do you know that guy, Kid Super? He's the man. Well, I see what you're rocking. Who's shirt is that?

• 28:01Speaker 00

  Teddy Fresh.

• 28:02Andrew Santino?

  TF, dude. You're a big Teddy Fresh guy.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  Always have been.

• 28:06Andrew Santino?

  You live in Teddy Fresh.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  No, I only, so I stopped buying clothes a long time ago. And I stopped choosing what to wear. I have about four shirts. Two of them are Teddy Fresh.

• 28:17Andrew Santino?

  What are the other two?

• 28:19Speaker 00

  One I shouldn't say, but I got a communist shirt. It's so hard, bro. I was in Vietnam.

• 28:25Andrew Santino?

  Oh shit.

• 28:27Speaker 00

  Everywhere you go, full communist symbols everywhere. I just got it because I thought it looked really incredibly aesthetically speaking. I don't consider myself communist in any capacity. I'm a capitalist.

• 28:39Andrew Santino?

  You're a capitalist?

• 28:40Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 28:41Andrew Santino?

  You love-

• 28:41Speaker 00

  Through and through, I love cash.

• 28:43Andrew Santino?

  You love cash.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  But I don't actually care anymore. I've been very much uninterested. I'm semi-retired.

• 28:49Andrew Santino?

  Do you think it's because you've made too much money?

• 28:50Speaker 00

  I made too much. It was too much at one time.

• 28:53Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  And then it kept coming.

• 28:55Andrew Santino?

  What was your most successful month financially? Cause I had heard rumors on the internet, and I don't know if this is crazy-

• 29:01Speaker 00

  What did you hear?

• 29:02Andrew Santino?

  Seventeen million in one month? Are you laughing? Is it more than that? Oh shit.

• 29:07Speaker 00

  Bro, that's literally that what we do in a week off the merch drops.

• 29:12Andrew Santino?

  Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, seventeen milli a week is what you're making?

• 29:19Speaker 00

  No, that was at my peak, bro.

• 29:21Andrew Santino?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 29:22Speaker 00

  That was at my peak.

• 29:23Andrew Santino?

  But where did all the cash go?

• 29:28Speaker 00

  I don't really wanna talk about it.

• 29:31Andrew Santino?

  That's fine, man.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  We did a thing. Are you familiar with Bernie Madoff?

• 29:36Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 29:37Speaker 00

  So, he's a financial advisor.

• 29:39Andrew Santino?

  What's his name?

• 29:40Speaker 00

  Bernie?

• 29:41Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 29:41Speaker 00

  Madoff.

• 29:42Andrew Santino?

  Bernie Madoff.

• 29:43Speaker 00

  Look him up. It's a pretty famous story.

• 29:45Andrew Santino?

  Bring him a picture for the audience, Joe, if you can, so we can see who it is. Bernie Madoff.

• 29:49Speaker 00

  So I started working with this through my aunt. She lives in Florida.

• 29:53Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  And she connected me to Madoff.

• 29:56Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  And so, he was doing all my financial advising. And there was a brief stint where-

• 30:02Andrew Santino?

  Oh no, I don't like where this is going.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  Basically, I just during my pinnacle,

• 30:09Speaker 00

  we were making close, you know, seventy-two million.

• 30:14Andrew Santino?

  Seventy-two million what?

• 30:15Speaker 00

  A month.

• 30:16Andrew Santino?

  A month! Wow. Seventy-two million dollars a month you were making.

• 30:23Andrew Santino?

  No, what is the math then? How much is that?

• 30:25Speaker 02

  Uh, it's 864 million a year.

• 30:28Andrew Santino?

  864 million a year. You're making 72 million a month.

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:34Andrew Santino?

  864 million for the year.

• 30:38Andrew Santino?

  Damn.

• 30:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, can you just talk? I don't really wanna talk about what happened with Madoff, but I'm getting...

• 30:44Andrew Santino?

  That's fine.

• 30:44Speaker 00

  I'm getting a little worked up here, but if you wanna just share a little bit about what happened with that situation.

• 30:50Speaker 02

  I think he went to prison.

• 30:51Andrew Santino?

  He went to jail?

• 30:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:52Andrew Santino?

  For what?

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Uh, for...

• 30:55Andrew Santino?

  Don't tell me some weirdo shit. What did he do?

• 30:57Speaker 02

  I think it was just embezzlement or something.

• 30:59Andrew Santino?

  Financial embezzlement? Oh, so you-

• 31:00Speaker 02

  Oh, no, a big Ponzi scheme, I guess.

• 31:02Andrew Santino?

  Oh, my god, dude. So would you think you-

• 31:04Speaker 00

  It was all gone.

• 31:05Andrew Santino?

  You lost all your fortune to him?

• 31:06Speaker 00

  Everything, yeah.

• 31:08Andrew Santino?

  How much did you say?

• 31:08Speaker 00

  He was using my money to pay off other people.

• 31:12Andrew Santino?

  You know what they say? They say rob and Peter to pay Paul.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  Mmm.

• 31:15Andrew Santino?

  That's the old phrase.

• 31:15Speaker 00

  That was the whole fucking scheme. Because he would take money from one person and pay the next and get everyone to make it look like that they're making their money back. But there was some of the bigger fishes, such as myself and some of my associates. And...

• 31:29Andrew Santino?

  So because of Mr. Madoff, you lost 800 million dollars?

• 31:33Speaker 02

  It says here his Ponzi scheme involved a total fraud of nearly 65 billion.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  And the largest from a single anonymous person around 864 million dollars.

• 31:44Andrew Santino?

  You're this anonymous person, dude? I'm... This is a trip. I never knew that.

• 31:49Speaker 00

  Uh, can we just talk about-

• 31:50Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, no, we can move on. I'm sorry about that.

• 31:54Andrew Santino?

  Well, I don't wanna put your business out there. We can cut that kinda stuff, can't we?

• 31:58Speaker 00

  You can put it in. I don't give a fuck. It's already... It's water under the bridge. People already know about this.

• 32:04Andrew Santino?

  Damn. I'm sorry, dude.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, it's good. It's good.

• 32:11Andrew Santino?

  What's been going on otherwise, man? Is everything good, life-wise? Like, ladies? What's going on with the ladies?

• 32:15Speaker 00

  Been good, man.

• 32:18Andrew Santino?

  He's disturbed, dude.

• 32:20Speaker 00

  It's just been a long fucking week, bro.

• 32:23Andrew Santino?

  I know, you haven't been sleeping or nothing.

• 32:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:27Andrew Santino?

  What are you excited about right now?

• 32:29Speaker 00

  Just chess.

• 32:30Andrew Santino?

  Just chess?

• 32:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:32Andrew Santino?

  Nothing else is entertaining right now?

• 32:33Speaker 00

  Not really.

• 32:35Andrew Santino?

  I hate to see you like this dude, you seem super upset.

• 32:37Speaker 00

  No, it's just, I've been kinda going through, I don't really wanna get into it, it's kinda just personal shit. You don't really like to talk about your personal life, right?

• 32:44Andrew Santino?

  Yes, I do, if you wanna share, let's share.

• 32:47Speaker 00

  What's your wife's mother's maiden name?

• 32:51Andrew Santino?

  Her, my, wait, my, you mean my wife's maiden name, or my wife's mom's maiden name?

• 32:56Speaker 00

  Wife's mom.

• 32:57Andrew Santino?

  My wife's mom's maiden name is Scalango. Scalango is, uh, it's...

• 33:06Andrew Santino?

  I mean, I don't know, do I have to explain this?

• 33:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:08Andrew Santino?

  You don't know what Scalango is?

• 33:09Speaker 00

  No.

• 33:10Andrew Santino?

  Scalango is, um...

• 33:11Speaker 00

  You're making that up.

• 33:12Andrew Santino?

  Scalango?

• 33:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:13Andrew Santino?

  What?

• 33:14Speaker 00

  It's not even a real word.

• 33:15Andrew Santino?

  It's a last name. Scalango, it means, it means little shoe.

• 33:20Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 33:20Andrew Santino?

  Scalango, in patois, it means little shoe, Scalango.

• 33:23Speaker 00

  Wait, so she had a small foot?

• 33:24Andrew Santino?

  Well, one of her foot was clubbed.

• 33:26Speaker 00

  Really? Was that intentional?

• 33:29Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 33:35Speaker 00

  Well, you know how they do that, certain places, they put the...

• 33:38Andrew Santino?

  They clubbed her foot.

• 33:39Speaker 00

  Certain places, they take the, the kid's foot, they put it into a super small shoe.

• 33:44Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they did that, and they bronzed it.

• 33:47Speaker 00

  Bronzed the shoe?

• 33:48Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, they bronzed the shoes and they keep them, they played them bronze.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  You know how they do it with, uh, watermelons? They put them in a shape?

• 33:54Andrew Santino?

  In a square, in a square box.

• 33:56Speaker 00

  And then it grows, yeah, growing to a square, growing to a...

• 33:58Andrew Santino?

  But you know why someone like you has never been put in a box?

• 34:00Speaker 00

  Why?

• 34:01Andrew Santino?

  Cause you're not a square dude.

• 34:02Speaker 00

  Stop. You say that to all the guests.

• 34:04Andrew Santino?

  Do I? No, you're a free-flowing guy. You're one of these people, the reason your name is Oliver Tree...

• 34:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 34:11Andrew Santino?

  Is because your brain works like a tree.

• 34:13Speaker 00

  Well...

• 34:14Andrew Santino?

  It digs deep down into the earth, receives the nutrients it needs from, from society and the earth... And gifts everyone air to breathe, and that air that you make is music.

• 34:25Speaker 00

  Well, actually, it was gonna be Oliver Twist, but that was taken.

• 34:29Andrew Santino?

  Well, yeah, that's a very famous...

• 34:30Speaker 00

  That was kinda the origin. You know how I got my name?

• 34:33Andrew Santino?

  Oliver?

• 34:34Speaker 00

  No. Tree.

• 34:35Andrew Santino?

  Tree?

• 34:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:36Andrew Santino?

  How?

• 34:40Speaker 00

  So my father.

• 34:42Andrew Santino?

  Great dude Taco Bell dog.

• 34:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. What's my father's name?

• 34:45Andrew Santino?

  Huh?

• 34:46Speaker 00

  You know my father's name?

• 34:49Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Joshua.

• 34:50Andrew Santino?

  Josh. Whoa.

• 34:52Speaker 00

  Joshua Tree.

• 34:53Andrew Santino?

  Shit.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was the guy who initially found, well technically he's the fourth. So Joshua Tree was his father's father.

• 35:03Andrew Santino?

  So Joshua Tree, the area was named after your grand, great grandfather? What?

• 35:08Speaker 00

  Technically my great great, but my father's great grandfather.

• 35:12Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 35:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. So like, we have ties that go back to the desert, so. Olive Tree.

• 35:19Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  I was the only other kid in the family. Who every year would be given a gift of a tree.

• 35:27Andrew Santino?

  How many trees? So you have a lot of trees?

• 35:29Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, I have a vineyard.

• 35:30Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 35:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I have olive trees, so if you go to Joshua Tree. And you go near the side near Indio.

• 35:39Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 00

  That's where, so have you seen the part when you're driving through? Have you been?

• 35:44Andrew Santino?

  A bunch.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:45Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 35:45Speaker 00

  Beautiful place.

• 35:46Andrew Santino?

  It's gorgeous.

• 35:46Speaker 00

  So you know how there's all of the wind turbines?

• 35:49Andrew Santino?

  Oh yeah.

• 35:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's my uncle's.

• 35:51Andrew Santino?

  Your uncle owns all the wind turbines in the desert? Holy crap.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:56Andrew Santino?

  And then I, I guess I didn't know you were, I mean, you're kind of like a nepo baby, right? Isn't he? A little bit. Is that offensive?

• 36:01Speaker 00

  No.

• 36:02Andrew Santino?

  I mean, I didn't know you had the game like that.

• 36:04Speaker 00

  It's not, I don't, it's not offensive. It's just part of my lineage. It's, it's old money.

• 36:09Andrew Santino?

  It is very old money.

• 36:10Speaker 00

  So my uncle, he has all of the turbines, right?

• 36:13Andrew Santino?

  All the wind turbines out in the desert are owned by your uncle?

• 36:15Speaker 00

  Just the ones near Indio.

• 36:17Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 36:18Speaker 00

  On the way to Joshua Tree.

• 36:18Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's where they, I feel like they all are.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  Well, a lot. There's still a lot. We actually have, my family has some in England off the coast. They're actually in the water too. And we have some in Sweden as well. They're in the water. So we have different ones, but these ones are probably our biggest group of, of turbines. So if you actually go about six miles down to the northern side.

• 36:39Andrew Santino?

  Of Indio?

• 36:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:40Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  That's where my olive tree vineyard is.

• 36:43Andrew Santino?

  Can anybody go?

• 36:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, we sell, we sell olive oil by the pound.

• 36:49Andrew Santino?

  You do?

• 36:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, and we do coffee as well. Actually, have you, are you familiar with the Indonesian style of coffee where the cats eat it and then they poop out? The coffee beans?

• 36:58Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 37:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, we started doing that last April.

• 37:02Andrew Santino?

  No, I have heard of that where animals will eat the bean, eat the, like the raw bean and then they'll poop out the coffee bean.

• 37:08Speaker 00

  Right, because their body can't digest the bean.

• 37:11Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but it de-shells it, so it gets rid of everything else.

• 37:14Speaker 00

  Gets rid of all the toxins, covers it and there's obviously.

• 37:18Andrew Santino?

  Okay, so, but yeah, but when it comes out, it has poop on it. What do you do with the poop? You throw, you have to use it for something or throw it?

• 37:23Speaker 00

  We use it for the fertilization of the olive trees. So it's all full circle. Basically, the entire piece is very sustainable for the environment. That's why we do the wind turbines.

• 37:34Andrew Santino?

  Ah.

• 37:34Speaker 00

  We actually are doing everything in-house, so we're self-reliant, self-sustainable.

• 37:40Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 37:41Speaker 00

  We're self-reliant, we're self-sustainable. We have everything we need. Basically, if the end of the world is coming, the apocalypse, whatever. Bro, we, we have got you covered.

• 37:49Andrew Santino?

  Well, this is a dumb question, but I'm not a smart guy.

• 37:52Speaker 00

  There's no dumb question.

• 37:53Andrew Santino?

  Well, this is gonna, if you use the poop to fertilize the olive tree, does the olive, olive oil taste like poop?

• 38:00Speaker 00

  No, it's a spice.

• 38:01Andrew Santino?

  Oh, okay.

• 38:02Speaker 00

  It's a spicy kind of taste. It doesn't.

• 38:04Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but they must smell really bad.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  Well, and that's the reason why my uncle built the turbines in the first place. It actually blows all of the smell, all the scent. Down south to India. So if you look at it, it's actually pointing towards the southern direction, which actually blows it down through the canyon. Over the mountain ways.

• 38:22Andrew Santino?

  So it's designed that way?

• 38:23Speaker 00

  It was designed. The, the actual setup there was not a valley. We carved that out ourselves. You've seen how they did it in the Panama Canal?

• 38:32Andrew Santino?

  I've seen some of the videos, yeah.

• 38:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, same setup, same guys, same team. So the French actually tried to do that initially.

• 38:38Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 38:38Speaker 00

  Didn't work out. Americans came in and we actually finished the Panama Canal. Have you been?

• 38:43Andrew Santino?

  I've been one time, but I didn't know we finished that?

• 38:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, we did that.

• 38:46Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 38:47Speaker 00

  And it was the same team that actually helped build out, they carved out the Indio Valley.

• 38:50Andrew Santino?

  For your family.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  In here, we pour whiskey.

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• 40:24Andrew Santino?

  This may be a dumb question, but...

• 40:26Speaker 00

  Stop right there. There are no dumb questions.

• 40:29Andrew Santino?

  Well, when your uncle passes, will you get all that land?

• 40:33Speaker 00

  Presumably. I'm first in the lineage to be able to accept that, but I have to ask my grandfather, Joshua.

• 40:41Andrew Santino?

  Is he still alive?

• 40:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:43Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 40:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's, he's still ticking.

• 40:46Andrew Santino?

  I've heard a lot of rumors about family lineages being connected to like, you know, I don't want to say it, but like, the Kennedys.

• 40:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 40:57Andrew Santino?

  And also, you know.

• 41:00Speaker 00

  Rockefeller's?

• 41:00Andrew Santino?

  Some of the Rockefeller's. Like, I don't, I didn't want to say anything. What the Rothschilds, like, your family does have a direct connection to all these people.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  We do, yeah.

• 41:08Andrew Santino?

  So, there was a rumor. Could be true, could be a lie. McCone remembers.

• 41:15Andrew Santino?

  People always have said that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France, but apparently...

• 41:20Speaker 00

  No, well technically, that's where people have it mixed up. So, my family, if you look at the actual lineage of the Joshua trees, okay, we're French, but technically, we're French-Canadian. So, where a lot of people have it mixed up is they think that the French gifted the Statue of Liberty, but it was actually the French-Canadians who gifted it. And it was my grandfather, and it was a team of individuals, a Frenchman. But, do you know Jean Rock?

• 41:46Andrew Santino?

  Was he, he was one of the, he was a king of France?

• 41:49Speaker 00

  No, he was a mentor of mine.

• 41:50Andrew Santino?

  Oh, Jean Rock.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  He was my mentor. I worked with him in Antarctica for a long stint.

• 41:55Andrew Santino?

  Oh, wow.

• 41:55Speaker 00

  You're not familiar?

• 41:57Andrew Santino?

  Unfortunately, no. I mean, I feel a little ignorant, but...

• 41:58Speaker 00

  You should, you should know.

• 41:59Andrew Santino?

  Really? Jean Rock?

• 42:01Speaker 00

  Jean Rock.

• 42:02Andrew Santino?

  Jean Rock?

• 42:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. But anyways, he's, he's French, but he technically is from Canada, so he's a French-Canadian, but in the opposite way.

• 42:09Andrew Santino?

  But he's the one that helped your grandfather bring the Statue of Liberty over?

• 42:11Speaker 00

  No.

• 42:12Andrew Santino?

  He was just a man that you worked with?

• 42:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:14Andrew Santino?

  Oh. Well, of some of the other, like, big, modern marvels, I would say, you know, they say the World's Fair. And we're all familiar with the World's Fair.

• 42:23Speaker 00

  Well, and there's been many.

• 42:24Andrew Santino?

  I know, but your family has had a hand. I hate, I'm not trying to blow your spot up. Your family, we've looked it up, has had ties with the World's Fair, every World's Fair.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  We missed the 1914 because my uncle was training for the Olympics. And then also, there was the 1962, which that one was just because the fees were so outrageous, and there was actually a boycotting, what my family called it. We were boycotting the World's Fair that year.

• 42:53Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 42:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:54Andrew Santino?

  I mean, I hate to pry, but I feel like I've known you for a while, but I never knew, like, the depth of your, your family.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  And that's the thing, I'm so much more than that. I don't like...

• 43:03Andrew Santino?

  You are. I'm not saying you're...

• 43:04Speaker 00

  I don't like to be kind of like, just talking about my family, because I'm not like, trying to be a nepo baby. I'm not trying to be a clout chaser.

• 43:11Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 43:11Speaker 00

  I'm not trying to be like, you know, "Oh yeah, like, my family did this." My, like, I already did enough on my own, standing on my own two feet.

• 43:18Andrew Santino?

  Well, you did everything on your own.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  And I did it all myself.

• 43:20Andrew Santino?

  Well, like, because you know, there's a bunch of enemies that you have in the music business, and they're all nepo. Oh babies.

• 43:24Speaker 00

  Dude, and that's the thing, bro. And these guys, bro, they're so, so full of themselves. They don't even write their own music. They don't produce their own beats. My album that I made, Love You Madly, Hate You Badly, I produced entirely by myself.

• 43:37Andrew Santino?

  Not one person helped?

• 43:38Speaker 00

  Not one fucking person. My engineer, he helped mix it with me. And I recorded all the vocals. But he helped record some of the guitars. But I produced it, engineered most of it myself, mixed it with them.

• 43:49Andrew Santino?

  Wrote every song?

• 43:50Speaker 00

  Wrote every lyric, every melody, every instrument. I wrote every single thing, played every instrument.

• 43:54Andrew Santino?

  What's the name of the song on the album you liked the most?

• 43:57Speaker 00

  Um, it kinda comes down between two songs, but right now I'm leaning towards one. It's called Sweet Child of Mine.

• 44:03Andrew Santino?

  Sweet Child of Mine? Okay, what, what, and what's this? Are you a father? I actually don't know that.

• 44:08Speaker 00

  I don't really like to talk about my personal life. I'm okay with talking about lineage, but I don't like to bring in the family. But I have two sons and a daughter.

• 44:16Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  So.

• 44:17Andrew Santino?

  Sweet Child of Mine. About your, about your son or daughter. I don't wanna pry, but that's beautiful. It's a great title.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  You think so?

• 44:24Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, it's a good song title.

• 44:28Andrew Santino?

  I mean, how many songs have you written that never made it out?

• 44:31Speaker 00

  Probably close to, I would say at least three, four thousand, probably thirty-five hundred.

• 44:37Andrew Santino?

  Four thousand songs I've never?

• 44:38Speaker 00

  For sure, for sure.

• 44:39Andrew Santino?

  Wow. And all by you, no other?

• 44:42Speaker 00

  Just me. I mean, I used to write music with my friends. But I would write every lyric, every melody. That's one thing I always stayed true to.

• 44:47Andrew Santino?

  Sure.

• 44:48Speaker 00

  But I would let my other friends, like I can play guitar. I've played guitar on my platinum songs. I've played piano on my platinum songs, but someone's better at playing it. Let the motherfucker play, let him ride.

• 44:57Andrew Santino?

  Let him play?

• 44:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:59Andrew Santino?

  And out of all those songs that you've written and, and not put out?

• 45:02Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:03Andrew Santino?

  Will they ever have a chance to see the light of day?

• 45:05Speaker 00

  I highly doubt it.

• 45:06Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 45:06Speaker 00

  I highly doubt it. And I actually, you know, I've written something into my will and testament. Which basically explains that when I die. Everything comes out.

• 45:16Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  So, yeah.

• 45:18Andrew Santino?

  Why is it a will and testament?

• 45:21Speaker 00

  Well, that's the thing. So, I don't know if you know this.

• 45:23Andrew Santino?

  I don't.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  My grandfather, he was a lawyer. So, him and another team of lawyers, I'm not gonna take all the credit for him, but, and this is not on the tree side, by the way. This isn't Joshua Tree, this is on my mom's side.

• 45:35Andrew Santino?

  Oh, your mother's side, yeah.

• 45:37Speaker 00

  Team of lawyers he worked closely with, he was leading.

• 45:42Speaker 00

  It was just a name that they used to say amongst each other.

• 45:47Speaker 00

  It was just a name they would use amongst each other and it just stuck.

• 45:51Andrew Santino?

  You're involved in so many aspects of the business. The one thing that I think I'm most impressed by is all the things you've turned down. Like all of the movies, TV shows, uh, uh, features on other people's albums. I mean, the internet is really aware of this, of how much stuff you've turned down.

• 46:08Speaker 00

  I mean, a lot of it is public knowledge.

• 46:10Andrew Santino?

  Well, because people get upset that they can't work with you. They'll offer you massive stuff. On the Star is Born on Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, you were originally commissioned to write the song for Lady Gaga.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  Well, not originally commissioned. I actually was paid to do it.

• 46:27Andrew Santino?

  Oh, they paid you to do it?

• 46:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, I got paid in full.

• 46:29Andrew Santino?

  That was original commission then, for Lady Gaga.

• 46:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:33Andrew Santino?

  Wow. And why was-

• 46:36Speaker 00

  Actually, I know, I wrote some of her earlier stuff. You know Poker Face?

• 46:40Andrew Santino?

  Poker Face, like her, that's one of her like-

• 46:42Speaker 00

  Rum bum, rum bum.

• 46:44Andrew Santino?

  That's, you wrote that? And you're, wow. But how come you're not credited? Did you not want credit?

• 46:49Speaker 00

  No, I mean, I'm credited on the backend. It's called ghostwriting. So I worked-

• 46:54Andrew Santino?

  Artists about that.

• 46:54Speaker 00

  With the same team. We used to do stuff for Drake. We did a bunch of stuff for the Amigos. Yeah, I wrote a lot of songs in the early 2000s that were pretty big as well.

• 47:03Andrew Santino?

  And you choose to not attach yourself to them because of what?

• 47:05Speaker 00

  It's a vanity thing. I don't really want to be associated with the pop, stardom type of thing. I keep it low key.

• 47:13Andrew Santino?

  But you don't think you're a pop star? You're a pop star?

• 47:15Speaker 00

  No, no, no, definitely not. I'm I'm low key.

• 47:19Andrew Santino?

  But what do you consider yourself? You're not a pop star?

• 47:21Speaker 00

  No. No, I don't like to put labels on things. I'm fluid, you know? I'm very open minded and I like all styles, so if you look at my catalog, especially my gold platinum stuff for the Olive Tree Project, which is, you know, in comparison pales in comparison. But you know, the teams I worked with to write those songs, and I was writing primarily as a songwriter, lyricism. With the Lady Gaga stuff, with the Drake stuff, all of that stuff that I did with them. It just doesn't feel the same because it's not truly raw, authentic shit. It's a team of twenty people. But if you look at the splits, I have the lion's share.

• 47:57Andrew Santino?

  You do more than any of those guys.

• 47:59Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:00Andrew Santino?

  Because, I mean, you've got-

• 48:01Speaker 00

  I have upwards sixty-five, seventy percent, some of these, but some of them, it's fifty-two, fifty-three. I always make sure if I'm gonna be brought on as a songwriter, I always take the lion's share. That's one of my only rules.

• 48:11Andrew Santino?

  Well, that makes sense. I mean, look at some of this stuff. Like, this is, you know, Miss You has eight, eight-hundred-million streams.

• 48:19Speaker 00

  Does it really? I thought it was at a billion by now.

• 48:21Andrew Santino?

  It's not.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  Well, I think combined, it has like four billion or something, if you look at YouTube-

• 48:27Andrew Santino?

  YouTube and everything.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  Apple Music-

• 48:29Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 48:29Speaker 00

  Deezer, Spotify.

• 48:32Andrew Santino?

  Do you use Wiger?

• 48:34Speaker 00

  No, I had to stop using it after what came out.

• 48:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, but it was a good streaming service for a while.

• 48:40Speaker 00

  It was, it was pretty good, yeah.

• 48:42Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 48:42Speaker 00

  But we had to stop using it once we found out about the founder.

• 48:46Andrew Santino?

  Not cool, is the way I'll phrase it. There's one question I have about, and, and, and the oldest album that you have that's available up online right now.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:54Andrew Santino?

  There is a song on here, and I'm just curious about this because I feel like you should, where is it? Here we go. Two thousand, there it is. Twenty-sixteen.

• 49:07Andrew Santino?

  Uh, on "When I'm Down," there's a B-side to this single, which is really strange that you put that on the internet.

• 49:12Speaker 00

  What was it?

• 49:13Andrew Santino?

  Because a lot of people don't do that.

• 49:14Speaker 00

  What?

• 49:17Andrew Santino?

  So, "When I'm Down," one of his most famous songs, people know.

• 49:20Speaker 00

  That was the first song I recorded as Oliver Tree and released, and I made it in a walk-in closet, and now it's platinum indie release, no major label, no support, just me and my homie. My friend was fourteen at the time when he produced-

• 49:32Andrew Santino?

  Well, see, how old were you then?

• 49:35Speaker 00

  I was probably, this was, I was probably thirty.

• 49:37Andrew Santino?

  Right.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  Thirty-two.

• 49:39Andrew Santino?

  Thirty-two, thirty-three?

• 49:40Speaker 00

  Thirty-three, maybe.

• 49:41Andrew Santino?

  Because there's a B-side to this and it says, "Give me perks."

• 49:43Speaker 00

  Right. Well, I was going through a pretty dark time.

• 49:46Andrew Santino?

  So you were addicted to Percocet at the time?

• 49:48Speaker 00

  I was addicted to perks, oxies, oxycodone. Yeah, we did a lot of that shit. I was a tweaker.

• 49:54Andrew Santino?

  You were a big tweaker then?

• 49:56Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, big time.

• 49:57Andrew Santino?

  How did you kick it, the tweaking?

• 49:59Speaker 00

  Just cold turkey.

• 50:00Andrew Santino?

  You ate cold turkey? Wow.

• 50:03Speaker 00

  Well, it started two days before Thanksgiving, so we did cold turkey diet, so it's a tryptamine.

• 50:08Andrew Santino?

  Tryptophine?

• 50:09Speaker 00

  Is it? Tryptamine or tryptophine?

• 50:11Andrew Santino?

  Tryptophine.

• 50:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I was fucking on that shit bad, bro. So they use tryptophine.

• 50:16Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 00

  In other types of, how do we say this? Uh, I'm not sure if this will get censored, but other types of replacement drugs.

• 50:27Andrew Santino?

  Oh, oh, oh, synthetics and stuff like that?

• 50:29Speaker 00

  Synthetics, designer drugs, you know, I'm not sure if you're familiar with.

• 50:34Andrew Santino?

  Designer drugs?

• 50:35Speaker 00

  Yo, yeah.

• 50:36Andrew Santino?

  Like Louis Vuitton and stuff like that?

• 50:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:38Andrew Santino?

  Gucci drugs?

• 50:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, do you know about the designer stuff? The stuff that's made in laboratory?

• 50:43Andrew Santino?

  Made by designer companies like Gucci and?

• 50:45Speaker 00

  For sure. They put it on pressed pills. They put their logos. They sell this shit out.

• 50:48Andrew Santino?

  And Gucci makes those pills?

• 50:50Speaker 00

  Yes. If you look, it's the same factories. They produce not only the original Gucci bags, they produce the counterfeits and then they're on the side. Some of these places are doing pressed pills.

• 51:01Andrew Santino?

  Gosh.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:03Andrew Santino?

  I mean, I've heard some wild stuff like that, like Apple, the phone, we all have Apple phones.

• 51:08Speaker 00

  Started as actually an Apple company.

• 51:10Andrew Santino?

  Apple company, an orchard tree company, which I'm sure.

• 51:13Speaker 00

  He was friends with my grandfather.

• 51:15Andrew Santino?

  Oh, you know them?

• 51:17Speaker 00

  Well, I don't know them personally, but my grandfather was very close, yes.

• 51:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, that's the thing that people don't know is Apple made, was a tree farm company for years. They had Apple orchards.

• 51:26Speaker 00

  Steve Jobs and Wozniak that actually both grew up on an orchard.

• 51:30Andrew Santino?

  They grew up on.

• 51:30Speaker 00

  Silicon Valley, Los Cadas, just down the street from where I grew up.

• 51:34Andrew Santino?

  Cause you're Santa Cruz, right?

• 51:36Speaker 00

  Santa Cruz, which is just over the side of the mountain, highway seventeen. And so my father, he grew up in Los Cadas. He went to Lehigh. And he actually went to high school with Steve Jobs and Wozniak.

• 51:46Andrew Santino?

  Shut up.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:47Andrew Santino?

  So this is kind of how this whole thing started?

• 51:49Speaker 00

  Well, no, because my grandfather actually had his foot and his finger on the pulse of the early onset of Silicon Valley.

• 51:56Andrew Santino?

  It's so funny, people don't really know you the way they think they know you. Like this is, this stuff I feel like you haven't really revealed a lot.

• 52:03Speaker 00

  I just, I prefer not to because you have to understand, like, there's a time and a place for everything.

• 52:08Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 52:08Speaker 00

  And like, I'm just trying to be me, you know, and I want to be authentically me. And I want to be Oliver Tree, I don't want to be Joshua Tree.

• 52:17Andrew Santino?

  Well, you're not, you're your own man. I mean, what, like, if you want to be you, what do you scream from the rooftops at night? Who, who is that? What do you say? What do you say?

• 52:26Speaker 00

  Right.

• 52:27Andrew Santino?

  Ri- oh, right?

• 52:29Speaker 00

  I'm right.

• 52:30Andrew Santino?

  I'm right.

• 52:31Speaker 00

  That's what I say. And that's the thing, my grandfather, he was very instrumental with telling the guys.

• 52:37Andrew Santino?

  Telling who?

• 52:39Speaker 00

  Wozniak specifically, but also Steve. He said to them, "Look, guys, there is an entire future that's gonna take place." He was the precursor, this is precursoring the internet. He, he actually had some ideas that turned and manifested into the early onset of the bubble.

• 52:57Andrew Santino?

  Of the, the Silicon Valley bubble?

• 52:59Speaker 00

  Yes, the Silicon Valley bubble that bursted in 1986. My grandfather had precursor ideas of all this shit, bro. He had literally written it out, he was literally like a Michelangelo of this shit.

• 53:10Andrew Santino?

  So you think he had some knowledge that other people?

• 53:12Speaker 00

  Well, no, I mean, he, not think, I know. He actually worked closely with Satoshi.

• 53:18Andrew Santino?

  How did he know him?

• 53:20Speaker 00

  I can't speak on it.

• 53:21Andrew Santino?

  Alright, I don't want to.

• 53:22Speaker 00

  But yeah, he was involved with the early onset of Bitcoin.

• 53:25Andrew Santino?

  Holy crap.

• 53:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. And the reason why Bitcoin crashed?

• 53:32Speaker 00

  A lot of my family sold, three months ago.

• 53:35Andrew Santino?

  You don't have any coin left?

• 53:36Speaker 00

  No, I don't have any coin left.

• 53:38Andrew Santino?

  Cause you got rid of it all?

• 53:39Speaker 00

  It's not insider trading because technically, we manipulate the market as we see fit. And we need to purge some of the market to get it cleansed, get some of the people who are just fair weather fans coming in there.

• 53:49Andrew Santino?

  Well, that's just like cleaning out your fridge. If something's expired, you gotta throw it out. You're not gonna eat it. It's not gonna, why, why leave it in there?

• 53:55Speaker 00

  You don't, do, you do not leave that shit in there.

• 53:57Andrew Santino?

  That's spoiled, right? You throw it away. It's old milk. So you do, I do get that purging.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  We do a cleansing and then when, when the market crashes, we buy big.

• 54:04Andrew Santino?

  You have to buy huge.

• 54:06Speaker 00

  Every time. We buy more, we buy double technically. I mean, it was at what, 121?

• 54:11Andrew Santino?

  130, yeah, maybe.

• 54:12Speaker 00

  130, yeah, now it's what, 60?

• 54:14Andrew Santino?

  There was a rumor that for a long time, you were paying people in your circle because you've got four assistants, two drivers, a chef, like you have a huge entourage. You were paying people in Bitcoin.

• 54:26Speaker 00

  Well, no.

• 54:27Andrew Santino?

  That's a lie. That's not true.

• 54:29Speaker 00

  That's not entirely not true.

• 54:30Andrew Santino?

  Okay.

• 54:31Speaker 00

  We were using ETH, so Ethereum.

• 54:33Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  For those of you at home.

• 54:34Andrew Santino?

  ETH.

• 54:34Speaker 00

  Yep. And so we would pay, we would actually technically use a cleanser. So we would take it, decrypt it.

• 54:41Andrew Santino?

  Oh.

• 54:42Speaker 00

  Put it in an unencrypted wallet, turn it into ETH. Sell it to ETH, buy it back, and then flip it. And then we would send it to the guys. This money was so untraceable, no one had any idea where this show was coming from.

• 54:55Andrew Santino?

  Or how much it's worth.

• 54:56Speaker 00

  Well, precisely.

• 54:58Andrew Santino?

  Wow.

• 54:58Speaker 00

  So we could pay a dollar, dime a dollar.

• 55:01Andrew Santino?

  Effectively, you were like, underpaying your whole staff.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  Big time.

• 55:06Andrew Santino?

  Well, look, it's on them, you know?

• 55:09Speaker 00

  Bro, look it up. Use a fucking index, a coin index. It's not that complicated. It's not fucking rocket science.

• 55:15Andrew Santino?

  It's out there.

• 55:15Speaker 00

  Which, by the way, on my mom's side, my grandfather worked for Lockheed Martin. And he took a lot of the stuff he worked on to the grave. And this is actually factual information.

• 55:25Andrew Santino?

  So no one's gonna-

• 55:25Speaker 00

  Just let me speak.

• 55:26Andrew Santino?

  Alright.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  He wasn't allowed to talk about the shit he was doing because it was working with alien technologies. And when I say alien, I don't mean UFO, mumbo jumbo. I mean, he was working with out of this world stuff, bro.

• 55:39Andrew Santino?

  Like alien stuff?

• 55:41Speaker 00

  Precisely.

• 55:43Andrew Santino?

  I mean, I don't know why you haven't made an album about that.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  Well, I did, bro. I made an entire album. It got shelved by the label. Oh, and by the way, the label forgot to release my song before Valentine's Day. They just forgot to ingest it into the system. And my fans are saying to me, Oliver, your album campaign is so dogshit. The label doesn't even care to ingest my music into the system.

• 56:05Andrew Santino?

  Well, who's responsible for that, man?

• 56:08Speaker 00

  The higher ups.

• 56:09Andrew Santino?

  How many people are at this label?

• 56:11Speaker 00

  I don't know, but they fired everyone, hired new people. I don't know. The level of incompetence is out of this fucking world.

• 56:15Andrew Santino?

  It's insane. That sounds foolish. You put out a, you made a, you made a Valentine's Day song-

• 56:19Speaker 00

  I made a Valentine's Day song about breaking up on Valentine's Day, and they forgot to release it.

• 56:26Speaker 00

  And bro, and that reminds me, like the stuff-

• 56:28Andrew Santino?

  That's the system dude.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:29Andrew Santino?

  That's the broken system.

• 56:30Speaker 00

  That's a broken system. And it's the same systems that both my grandfathers faced during World War I and World War II through the Korean War.

• 56:38Andrew Santino?

  Right. And this is where you've come out though. You've come out the other side being the artist. You're sick of getting screwed over. You have to have a voice.

• 56:44Speaker 00

  I'm so done getting bent over by these big pharma.

• 56:47Andrew Santino?

  Right, big pharma specifically.

• 56:49Speaker 00

  Well, because it's the labels, it's big pharma, and then of course, big banks.

• 56:53Andrew Santino?

  Big banks.

• 56:53Speaker 00

  That's why I moved all my money into crypto.

• 56:56Andrew Santino?

  So-

• 56:56Speaker 00

  And then we sold.

• 56:57Andrew Santino?

  You sold.

• 56:57Speaker 00

  Sold high.

• 56:58Andrew Santino?

  So where do you keep your funds now?

• 57:01Speaker 00

  I can't disclose. Why the fuck would I say that?

• 57:04Andrew Santino?

  I don't mean to pry, I just think it's interesting. People want to know you.

• 57:07Speaker 00

  You don't mean to pry, but you're asking me the fucking shit so the world can hear?

• 57:11Andrew Santino?

  Well, I mean-

• 57:12Speaker 00

  Bro!

• 57:12Andrew Santino?

  You're a smart dude. People want to follow in your footsteps.

• 57:14Speaker 00

  I know, but you have to understand, you have to pay for my courses to do that. I don't just give this shit out willy-nilly for anyone like yourself, Andrew. If you want to pay for my 16-week course, you can go on and follow my website for my seminars and weekly information that gets disclosed, but I'm not just giving that out on your shitty little podcast for free.

• 57:33Andrew Santino?

  Well, then people should click on the link and they can go to your seminar.

• 57:36Speaker 00

  Well, they can also go on my tours, they can go get the album, they can do whatever, but none of that matters because what it comes down to is intention.

• 57:44Andrew Santino?

  What's your intention?

• 57:49Speaker 00

  I don't have one.

• 57:52Andrew Santino?

  I mean, that's oddly very powerful. It's almost like, you know, not believing is believing, you know?

• 57:58Speaker 00

  I do have one phrase that I always say.

• 58:01Andrew Santino?

  What is it? What is it?

• 58:03Speaker 00

  And this is something I will give her read, this is on the course, it's covered in the 16-week course. But there is a famous quote, that actually a lot of people don't know the origins, but if you trace back and you look back, you can actually find this in one of my grandfather's sermons.

• 58:17Andrew Santino?

  Your mom's side or your dad's side?

• 58:18Speaker 00

  Mom's side. Not Josh Woodtree. So, there's a famous quote, and it goes-

• 58:25Andrew Santino?

  It's better to have la-

• 58:26Speaker 00

  He?

• 58:27Andrew Santino?

  He?

• 58:27Speaker 00

  Who?

• 58:28Andrew Santino?

  He who.

• 58:31Andrew Santino?

  He who mucks.

• 58:33Speaker 00

  He who smelt it.

• 58:35Andrew Santino?

  He who smelt it.

• 58:36Speaker 00

  Dealt it.

• 58:36Andrew Santino?

  He who smelt it dealt it. That's from the Lockheed Martin guy.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  That came from the higher ups at Lockheed Martin. And that's the kind of shit, they're shaking all of your ideas, they're scrambling your little heads, messing with you. And then meanwhile, you're a little pawn in this game and they're doing such crazy, you can't even begin to imagine, Andrew. You can't even begin to imagine the shit these guys at Lockheed Martin are doing.

• 59:00Andrew Santino?

  I mean, are we in danger?

• 59:02Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 59:04Andrew Santino?

  Are you in danger?

• 59:05Speaker 00

  Very much so.

• 59:06Andrew Santino?

  Do you have an exit plan?

• 59:08Speaker 00

  I have two.

• 59:09Andrew Santino?

  What, can you share them?

• 59:10Speaker 00

  Okay, here's the thing. Are you familiar with AI?

• 59:13Andrew Santino?

  A little bit.

• 59:14Speaker 00

  Okay. You know about ASI?

• 59:16Andrew Santino?

  KSI, this Twitch streamer?

• 59:17Speaker 00

  No, dude, ASI. Artificial superintelligence.

• 59:22Andrew Santino?

  No.

• 59:23Speaker 00

  There's AGI, artificial general intelligence. So what you need to understand is, the people who are the most concerned are guys like me, billionaires. Okay, we're fucking scared for our fucking lives, bro. Because the second the ASI, artificial superintelligence, is created. People's jobs are obsolete, people are fucking, no idea what they're gonna do with their time. And guys like me? We're the fucking targets. So we're building bunkers underneath our ground. Okay, Zuck just built one.

• 59:55Andrew Santino?

  Are you buddies?

• 59:56Speaker 00

  Of course. We actually went to UFC, we were, Dana gave us tickets, we had front row.

• 1:00:01Andrew Santino?

  Hmm.

• 1:00:01Speaker 00

  So me and Zuck, we both build bunkers. He did his in Kauai. Why do you think Musk is building a fucking rocket ship? It's not for fucking interest of keeping humanity alive, other than him and his little grubby buddies.

• 1:00:17Andrew Santino?

  So will you not be a part of that?

• 1:00:19Speaker 00

  Hell, no.

• 1:00:19Andrew Santino?

  Exodus.

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  The fucking level of the, the toxicities in the environment being expelled by these ships, bro, and, and this is the same shit that the folks at Amazon did. The same shit, you know when they sent those astronauts up into the sky for about thirty minutes?

• 1:00:37Andrew Santino?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Speaker 00

  Do you know how much waste was created, Andrew?

• 1:00:40Andrew Santino?

  I mean, a couple.

• 1:00:42Speaker 00

  Bro, millions of gallons of water gone down the drain for just one AI prompt. Millions, bro, millions. And I'm not over-exaggerating. I take this very serious.

• 1:00:53Andrew Santino?

  I can tell, no, I know.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  I looked into the quantum engineering. I actually run a spa in New York where we heat the water up with Bitcoin mining. The computers are so warm, we heat the water up that way just because we want to be good for the environment, to use the electricity for something positive so people can use. And this is a public space, Andrew.

• 1:01:12Andrew Santino?

  Right, a spa.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Precisely. So I'm trying to give back, you know? I'm not trying to get worked up here. I'm getting a little bit angry.

• 1:01:20Andrew Santino?

  Yeah, you're getting a little heated.

• 1:01:21Speaker 00

  But I'm just trying to give back because I don't want you to put me in the same breadth of a conversation with Musk, with Elon.

• 1:01:27Andrew Santino?

  But you are a billionaire. I mean, you're up there with these.

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, but that's not here or there because I use my power for good.

• 1:01:33Andrew Santino?

  I know, but how much money have you been giving away money or are you just keeping it?

• 1:01:37Speaker 00

  I'm keeping it. But wait. When I die, I've created my foundation, and this is factual. If you look up the public records, I have started my foundation, Dr. Oliver Tree's Foundation for Baby Geniuses. When I die, every penny I have, every money that gets made from not just the music that I wrote for Oliver Tree, but the stuff I did for Gaga, for Drake, for the entire industry, for... Let's not forget when I made Goosebumps by Travis Scott, okay?

• 1:02:05Andrew Santino?

  That's you.

• 1:02:08Speaker 00

  I made Humble by Kendrick. I produced some of the drums on it. But when my residuals come in, month after month, when I am continuously making this, when my dead body is still just in the earth, and I'll obviously be cryogenically frozen, but when I am sitting there in that cryogenic chamber, what will happen with the cash? All of it is gonna go to Dr. Oliver Tree's Foundation for Baby Geniuses. Every penny I make, and I have a whole board of 16 people, my closest collaborators while I'm alive, all of them will be deciding, and when they don't want to work on the committee anymore, they have the chance to give their role and their seat up to someone else to be a part of the chair. But I have this all fully documented in...

• 1:02:53Andrew Santino?

  Your will and testament.

• 1:02:54Speaker 00

  Precisely, Andrew.

• 1:02:56Andrew Santino?

  Man. I gotta tell you, everytime I see you, I learn more about you, I learn more about the universe, I learn more about America, I learn more about where we're going.

• 1:03:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the other thing, I'm very patriotic, so I do intend to give some money back to the big war industry, which I didn't, I covered the big three, the big banks, big pharma, and also what was the third?

• 1:03:15Andrew Santino?

  You do, it's big banks, big pharma, big labels.

• 1:03:18Speaker 00

  But big war, that was my, that's where I really wanted to start.

• 1:03:20Andrew Santino?

  You do want to fund big war.

• 1:03:21Speaker 00

  That's where I got started, Andrew. It's not just where I found myself as a businessman, but also as a politician, as an internet personality, as funding the wars in the early 2000s.

• 1:03:35Andrew Santino?

  You didn't have anything to do with September 11th, though.

• 1:03:41Speaker 00

  Can we wrap this up?

• 1:03:42Andrew Santino?

  Look into that camera, say one word or one phrase. One word or a phrase to end the episode.

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  In here, we pour whiskey, whiskey, whiskey, whiskey.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  Who that creature in the ginger beard? It's dirty ginger. Like vampires, the ginger gene is cursed. Gingers are beautiful. You owe me five dollars for the whiskey, seventy-five dollars for the horse. Gingers, oh hell no. This whiskey is excellent. Ginger, I like gingers.