Russia Launches ICBM, The View Apologizes To Gaetz, Musk vs Lulu, Jaguar Goes WOKE | PBD Podcast | Ep. 510

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick cover Russia launching an ICBM missile at Ukraine, The View apologizing to Matt Gaetz, MSNBC & CNN losing to Hallmark in the ratings war, and Jaguar gets criticized for their latest woke ad.🎄 PURCHASE THE VT CHRISTMAS COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4hDCt3S https://bit.ly/4hDCt3S?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=product_shelf📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj👕 VT POLO SHIRTS: https://bit.ly/3Y4Npig https://bit.ly/3Y4Npig?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=product_shelf🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/47iOGGx🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:‪@VALUETAINMENT‬ https://www.youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT ‪@vtsoscast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@vtsoscast ‪@ValuetainmentComedy‬ https://www.youtube.com/@ValuetainmentComedy ‪@bizdocpodcast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@bizdocpodcast ‪@theunusualsuspectspodcast‬ https://www.youtube.com/@theunusualsuspectspodcast ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:24Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so we got episode 510, a lot to cover, possibly a World War III. Literally, I mean, I understand like, you know, other times people say there could be a World War III. There's some moves taking place with this last 60 days before Trump becoming the actual president instead of president-elect that's causing Trump to maybe even go to Russia to sit down and say, hey, guys, pump the brakes. What is this all about? After Biden approving the usage of long range missiles by Zelensky, and then he actually used it. And then we're going to show you a clip about what Putin did and Russia to kind of stand off. And yesterday. While we're in Orlando, I'm driving around talking to a few people. It's interesting how

• 2:07Patrick Bet-David?

  the people who are from Russia who voted for Trump, this lady told me something that was very interesting. I've not heard before. I'll share that with you guys. There's a bunch of other things that's going on story wise. The NFL officially has no issues with players doing the Trump dance. Is it becoming now okay? To say you're a Trump voter? That was not the case. Eight years ago, not four years ago, not two years ago, not six months ago. But it is today. In regards to mass deportation. Trump confirms plans to use military to assist in mass deportation. LA city and schools make themselves migrant sanctuaries while when they were asking for minimum wage raised to 18 bucks, they voted no to it. They voted no to it, which is kind of interesting on those two issues going back and forth.

• 2:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we'll talk about what's going on with Russia, the challenges that they're facing with Ukraine. We'll address that, we'll address what Macron told them, we'll address the Putin allows nuke response to US missiles as he signs off on World War III escalation. Sunny had a rough week with the view where she had to come out and read something that if you've ever seen anybody miserable, when they're having to read something. She's the best example of it. I don't think you've ever seen anybody more miserable, having to do a job than this lady.

• 3:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Whoopi threw her under the bus, made her do it.

• 3:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, no, that's a producer. Let's wait till the podcast, Tom. Let's wait till the podcast. Tom is so excited. When the whole crew is here together, because Adam, I'm convinced, Tom missed you a little bit. I'm convinced, when you were in DC yesterday and the liberals didn't want to let you go, I'm convinced Tom is secretly in love with you.

• 3:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I've had a lot of coffee, I'm really ready to go.

• 3:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Matt Gaetz, we gotta talk about Matt Gaetz. There's a lot of things that's coming up with Matt Gaetz. A great clip by Josh Hawley that Rob's got ready for us to play here in a few minutes and some clips that maybe are different kind of clips for folks that want to see him be taken down. Elon Musk, Brazil's first lady said F you to Elon Musk, creates political firestorm. And then CNN's Harry Enton marvels at just how much Elon Musk is actually winning despite declining popularity. Popularity and Exodus from X. By the way, the, the new Time Magazine's cover just came out. Rob, if you can get that prepared to show, you should see what's in there. Elon has a checklist with this Time Magazine. It's actually a pretty good checklist. FYI,

• 4:29Patrick Bet-David?

  if I told you CNN and MSNBC, if I told you one company that beat those guys, if there's one company that you would never guess, what if I told you Hallmark, yes, Hallmark beats CNN and MSNBC viewers. Hallmark? Last week, folks, Hallmark, what are we talking about? What were they playing? It's pretty bad over there. And there's a clip, you guys got to watch this clip by Bill O'Reilly with Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith. And Tom's got some numbers he's going to reveal to us that I even haven't seen yet, which I'm looking forward to sharing with everybody, including myself. Our business stories, the soft skills crisis, one in four executives wouldn't even think of hiring an entry level Gen Z grad today. That's Fortune

• 5:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Magazine, California. I talked about the minimum wage. Terrorists, check this out. Target stock drops nearly 20%. That's $10 billion they lost in a day. That's Target. Walmart, they're talking about how the tariffs could probably cause Walmart price hikes. That's a Forbes story. And then Ford to cut 14% of their European jobs blaming EV shift and rising competition. And then Howard Lutnick says the most incredible thing breaking down tariffs that you have to see. We'll show that to you. Wapo, that's owned by Bezos. Bezos comes out and says, listen, guys, either come back to the office or send in your letter of resignation. And if you don't want to come back to the office, I'm okay with that. Go to Glasser because Glasser CEO said, we kind of like hiring people that

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  don't work from home. So guess what? Wapo, you guys got a place to go work. It's called Glasser. The CEO doesn't have any problem with it. You guys can go over there. And last but not least, we got to show Jenk calling the election, you know, the king of choosing elections. What's his name? Lickman? Lickman, who's been on the pod. Nice guy. I like him. And, and, but it's so entertaining with peers.

• 6:19Patrick Bet-David?

  To see what they said, "Don't call me stupid." You gotta see it, it's just entertaining. It's blasphemy. And last but not least, this is one thing that I'm a little bit concerned about showing it to you. Uh, but you know, I have to, two other things before I get to that. Nvidia doubles revenue on strong AI. Lakin Riley killer sentence to life. We're gonna show the clip and Vinnie's got a lot of updates on that. And last but not least, I'm worried about showing this commercial because it may motivate you and persuade you to never buy Jaguar for the rest of your life. Jaguar tried to do a commercial, uh, like the Apple commercial from 1984, the LGBTQ style, and they failed miserably. Which we'll show to you here in a minute. However, before we get into it, let me tell you what's going on right now.

• 6:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, we, Tom, Rob, if you can play that clip, we, we, even this guy here, we are excited about the Christmas season being here. The former presidential candidate that was running Kamala said the following thing about Christmas, and I want to tell you what happened with this hat here. Rob, play this clip.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  How dare we speak Merry Christmas? Oh my god. How dare we? Wow.

• 7:21Speaker 05

  Well, guess what? We're saying Merry Christmas again.

• 7:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So check this out, for this Christmas season, value tainment, we sat there, our team agreed, we're gonna come out with Merry Christmas gear, both. FYI, we launched these three hats, okay? Last week, these three hats, limited numbers that we launched, just to see how the market was gonna react to it. Do you know which one sold out within seconds? This was gone in no time. There were people that bought 10 of these at a time, okay? This was gone. Right now, we have 16, 17 of these left. If nothing's been ordered right now, they can order. Rob, if you can go to vtmerch.com, specifically the Christmas, uh, uh, season gear, if you can go there. There's some, there's some interesting scripture in the middle of these hats.

• 8:11Patrick Bet-David?

  For those of you that are going to church, you're gonna like the scripture that's in here. If you order it, you'll see it. We have a ton of Christmas gear, future looks bright Christmas gear. Yesterday I was in, um... Orlando, walking around, looking at a couple of events to possibly do an event in the future. And you know what was amazing? I saw folks wearing the value tainment future looks bright gear, running up, PBD, future looks bright. I loved seeing, taking pictures, videos with them. I have in my phone right now, probably a hundred pictures of folks that are posting value tainment gear, future looks bright, with kids, with families, voting, all of it. Anybody that places an order right now of the Christmas gear, you will get a free, uh, uh, uh, what do you call it? Ornament sent to you.

• 8:52Patrick Bet-David?

  So during Christmas, on your tree, you will have one of the best Christmas trees in the world, because it's gonna have the future looks bright red ornament on it. So go place your gear, order specifically if you want to get one of these, because this one's flying. You got the ugly sweaters. You got also some stuff for your kids, babies as well, if you want to get them a onesie. Having said that, let's get right into the story. All right. So a few things, while we're looking at all these things that's going on, I'm gonna start off with Rob, if you don't mind getting the clip ready of, uh, uh, uh, Ukraine, what happened with Russia? I'll read this and I'll play the clip and we'll go from there. So Ukraine reportedly uses the longer range missile for the first time to blow up Russian weapon facility

• 9:37Patrick Bet-David?

  as Putin issues nuclear warning to America. And Rob, if you have the clip, is this the clip of Ukraine attacking Russia? This is Russia using the ICBM last night into Ukraine. They're saying, they're saying it looks like, mind you, I worked at Malsrum Air Force Base, Montana, ICBM missile. This is what it would look like at night. They're saying that he's doing it to show force with no, obviously, nothing, no warhead on it, but just, they're saying that this might be him showing like you guys- Firing off. Firing off. Actually firing off, but there is no warhead in it. There's no warhead on it. Oh yeah, you would know.

• 10:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude.

• 10:16Patrick Bet-David?

  That noise?

• 10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  No warhead in it. If there was a warhead, it's a different story. The cameras, this guy's gone, they're all gone. This is last night.

• 10:31Tom Ellsworth?

  It's you.

• 10:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, that's fear. Do you hear the fear? It's, I'm telling people.

• 10:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, where is this?

• 10:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It's still causing damage, but not the damage of a nuclear bomb. Pat, if it was a, if it was a nuclear warhead, that first wave, this, this guy would have felt the, the impact that he's done.

• 11:01Patrick Bet-David?

  That's scary. So that's, that's this taking place. And then you have Putin that comes out.

• 11:06Tom Ellsworth?

  That's wild, man.

• 11:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Putin comes out.

• 11:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Sounds like an airplane, like it, doesn't it?

• 11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, I beg you. These are the ones at nighttime, Rob? I saw this one. You want to play this clip, Rob?

• 11:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Sounds like Boeing testing 737s.

• 11:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, see, this, this. There's three of them. I saw them. This is what I was talking about, about it looking like, like, like it's a ICBM. This is where? This is in Ukraine? Like, this is just fast. This is the, the, the fast, um, the fast forward part of it. Unbelievable. But that's what they would look like, guys. That's when that type of stuff is happening. It's like. So while this is going on, you hear, uh, uh, Putin allows nuke response to US missile as he signs off on World War III escalation. What does that mean? He signs off on World War III escalation. Let me read it to you. So Putin updated Russia's nuclear doctrine to permit nuclear retaliation against the West if Ukraine fires long range missiles into Russian territory or move into Kremlin's,

• 11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Dmitry Peskov confirmed as target aggression with the use of conventional weapons following the US approval for Ukraine to use, uh, these weapons 190 miles. Peskov warranted this policy reserves the right to use nuclear weapons and marks a significant escalation in the conflict. Vinny, what else do you know about this story? Well, Pat, uh, here's the thing. Look, look at it. Let's, let's not forget about the timing. How many more days does, uh, Joe Biden have, Tom?

• 12:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, 20 in January, 31 in December and about eight right now.

• 12:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. And it was his birthday yesterday. He's 82 years old. 60 days. 60 days left. Okay. And let's just be, let's just be honest. First, he is not making any decisions. Every headline that we see about, uh, Biden did this, Biden did that. Let's all agree. It's not Joe Biden, okay? And let's remember, the Biden administration started this war. They knew Russia would invade when we were publicly pushed Zelensky to join NATO. Let's all be completely honest, that's what they all want. The left and a lot of these Republicans on the right. And let's not forget on January 9th, Biden addressed, you know, that address that he did Tom where he said, if Russia, he said Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. If it's one thing, if it's a minor incursion, we won't really do anything.

• 13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Joe Biden inviting Russia to invade Ukraine, okay? And then he basically attacked them and like openly talking about expanding NATO. Cause I wanted to ask you guys, if right now, I'm just gonna pick somewhere, China wanted to build some setup shop in Mexico, what would we do, Pat? I'm just asking you guys, what would we do if they, if they came and they're like, hey, listen, we're gonna go to Mexico? We're gonna put up a couple of missiles.

• 13:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, like Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy said, get your crap out of Cuba, it's too close to me.

• 13:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and what, what almost happened?

• 13:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yeah, we almost launched missiles, went to war, but they blinked and they pulled the missiles out of Cuba.

• 13:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, and then, and then, and here's the problem, we, we're not even able to hear what Russia is saying. Because remember, the EU banned the platforming of Russian media, RT News and Sputnik. We can't even see what they're saying, they pulled out all the way that we could communicate or even talk. So this guy, send me a manect, okay? And he's leaning towards a Ukraine argument, Tom, and here's what he told me, okay? And Tom, I'm gonna go to the US Embassy closing in Kiev and I want to get your thoughts on that as well here in a minute. But I want you to see what this guy said, reasonable guy. I would like to offer a different perspective on the situation in Ukraine. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine inherited a large portion of its nuclear arsenal, making it the third largest nuclear power at the time.

• 14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Think about it, that's 33 years ago, Ukraine was number three. 33 years ago, Ukraine's number three in the world.

• 14:39Tom Ellsworth?

  In terms of total bombs.

• 14:41Patrick Bet-David?

  In term, in terms of total bomb, that's a fricking lot of power, right? Yes, so most people forget that in 94, Ukraine agrees to dismantle its nuclear arsenal in exchange for security assurances from Russia, the US, and the UK. Formalized in the Budapest memorandum, the process was strongly encouraged by the US under President Bill Clinton.

• 15:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Imagine agreeing with a neighbor to give up your guns on the promise they'll protect you if danger arises. Later, their friends start shooting at you and you're only given tools to protect your yard, not yourself. Now Russia strikes Ukraine weekly with hundreds of drones and rockets, targeting civilians in all cities, causing massive casualties. If this were a business deal, how important do you think the ethical aspects of such an agreement would be? And how would you handle this situation? Tom?

• 15:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, it was Russia, the US and UK, I think, that were at the end of World War II, that were sitting there talking about Germany. Remember that? There's the three of them sitting there. And then later, you know, Russia broke ranks and Germany's, Germany, the Berlin Wall and everything with it. So there is something to be said here, is that there was a treaty that was put in place. And then there's a couple of things that happened. One, you know, suddenly the US and US proxies in NATO were trying to get the Ukraine to join. And then Russia, who's in the treaty, goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. We have this treaty here. I told you I didn't want Ukraine in NATO. Russia has never wavered on not wanting Ukraine to be part of NATO. I thought we had a treaty here.

• 16:17Tom Ellsworth?

  So Russia feels that the West instigated NATO and pissed it off. The West is saying, dude, after the Soviet Union, you're just trying to rebuild everything back together. You're trying to put Humpty Dumpty together again. And you want Crimea specifically, you want the access to the Black Sea and all this. And so in terms of a business deal, it's like people on both sides messed with it. But then Russia went and got active on a military basis. They started like, not just lawsuits, they, they like went after it.

• 16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your position on what he said? This message that he sent me? Pat, this is where I'm, this is where I'm getting, I'm coming from.

• 16:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it's...

• 16:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Stay on this point. Stay on this point, what he's saying. So what he's saying is, this is important, because to some of the Ukraine, the other day I'm in a car in Orlando yesterday, we're driving, the driver's Russian, and I'm trying to kind of get a feel, I said, hey, do you work for the guys? Yes. I said, I can't really openly talk to my employees about what we're thinking about doing with the event here. He says, no, I totally understand. I said, so where are you from, Russia? When did you leave 25 years ago? How's the situation? My brother's still living there. What happened when he came here? My husband and I are here. Our families here. When's the last time he went to Russia? I haven't gone for 25 years. How do you feel about Putin? Says, I love Putin. Two years ago, everybody hates Putin right now in Russia. Why is that? Everyone's afraid of him. Why do they afraid of him? Because he's become a dictator. So I'm thinking this guy, this girl is gonna be a pro-Ukraine liberal type of person. I said, so how do you feel about Trump? Says, well, I know I can talk to you. We love him.

• 17:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, who loves him? He says, everybody in Russia loves Trump. I said, so let me get this straight. Russians right now are upset with Putin, but they love Trump? Yes. Why? He says, imagine if your kids died for a war that you don't want to be a part of, and there's a guy that can come and stop the war. So the position he's taken, she was a pro-Trump, anti-Putin, because they just want people to stop dying. Yeah, they want. What an interesting perspective. That is, this is a reasonable person we're talking to, right? But this guy is saying, hey, man, what the hell? We made a deal in 1991, 33 years ago. We gave you everything. We were number three in the world. We could have been a force to be reckoned with. And now you're attacking us? What's that all about? What'd he say to that guy? Who's he saying that's attacking him? He's saying now, we're defending, you know, we're okay with Russia attacking Ukraine.

• 18:22Patrick Bet-David?

  And you're allowing that to war happen. Why is Russia attacking Ukraine? Their job was to defend us because we gave all our nuclear weapons. What's the, I have an argument. I want to know what you think about it. I honestly. Okay. Vinny, Adam, what would you say to that? So you don't need to play the video. It'll be important to show these images. I was just in Washington DC. It was the 1,000th day anniversary, so to speak, of the Ukraine-Russian war. And I said, listen, I have this opportunity to speak with Ukrainian soldiers in front of the White House. Let me seize the moment here, right? So I speak with this guy. I don't know if you have the other video as well. Interviewing actual soldiers. One of the guys had his limbs blown off. He's in a wheelchair, but this, there's American flags, there's Ukrainian flags.

• 19:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm like, hey, guys, you know, I just want to ask you guys some questions, see what you got going on here. Here's my biggest takeaways from this. I believe that Donald Trump has the ability to win a Nobel Peace Prize if he can end this war. And he said on record, he believes that he can stop the war and possibly before he even takes office, right? He said that. By the way, do you know? Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize. Do you know how soon into his presidency? He won a Nobel Peace Prize? Two months?

• 19:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it was 270 days. I think it was like immediately after he took office.

• 19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Somehow Tom knows this ridiculous number. It was nine months into him taking office. Nine months.

• 19:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 19:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And he won it on the inspiration of hope. Not because he did anything per se. Because he was an inspiring hope. So it was on-

• 19:53Tom Ellsworth?

  And a big speech at the Berlin Wall.

• 19:54Patrick Bet-David?

  There it was. So some of his accomplishments where he was strengthening international diplomacy. Some may say he was doing an apology tour for America, right? He was encouraging nuclear disarmaments, even though it didn't necessarily begin at that point. And he was again renewing the climate of hope. So he came in with this hope and change, but nothing necessarily is manufactured. But it's now officially the 1000th day. I think we're in 1001- What are you saying to this guy? We were on this topic. So here's my point. What's your point with this guy? After interviewing this guy, I said, what do you think should happen in the war? And he was, he was the spokesperson. He goes Putin is Hitler. This whole talking point. I'm like Putin is Hitler? That's what, that's what you're giving me?

• 20:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, a lot of people in America have heard this about Trump. Trump's Hitler, Trump's Hitler. The whole Hitler thing, it's being watered down and it's basically being marginalized. Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Adam, what is the point with this guy saying the fact that? Stay on this point. You just went three topics that we could have gone later. I don't, I didn't really necessarily know what this guy's point is. I have a point though. But no, no, it's your point on this point. I'll come back to you. What would you like me to respond to exactly? You didn't hear anything I said? I, I did. I read it twice. I did. Okay, so what do you have to say about what the guy says? I, I think that, that, I don't even know what this guy said. Okay, so then, then hang tight. I'll come back to you on the point you're making. I understand the point you were trying to make about nuclear, uh, uh, the nuclear, uh, uh, what do you call it?

• 21:21Patrick Bet-David?

  The Nobel Prize for him to get because of what he could do. I agree. Why is this guy's point so important? The reason why? Because there is a split where some people are like, well, you know, are you okay with this happening? Et cetera, et cetera. This happened at a different time that the negotiation took place in 91. Putin's sitting there saying, that was your- Mistake. Why would you even do that in the first place? You guys should have never given it up. You gave it up for exchange? That was your bad negotiation. So if you had a leader that negotiated in a weak way for your country, you pay a price for that. You voted for that person. You guys chose to give that up. You didn't have to give it up. Right? You didn't have to do that. And then at the same side, when some of the Ukrainians are like, well, you know, what do you want them to do? Well, gradually, these guys have been getting closer and closer to NATO.

• 22:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So both ways promises are not being kept. If your promise was you're not going to go be part of NATO, and now you're pursuing it. And then they're gonna be like, if you're not holding the end of the bargain of you not even getting close to NATO, you are getting close to NATO, you are getting close to all these guys. Anything we ever negotiated in the past is over with. Anything we negotiated in the past is over with. That's the point with what this guy is saying. He's saying that it's not fair what took place. One, you had a bad deal. Two, once you don't keep the end of your bargain, you're right. You lose all of it. However, while this is taking place, Tom, what kind of a sign is it when US closes embassy in Kiev? Over potential significant air attacks as tensions with Russia. So Rob, I think you have this clip here

• 22:50Patrick Bet-David?

  on what they're saying. If you want to play this clip, go for it. In the last few minutes, the United States has announced it is closing its embassy in Kiev today and instructing employees there to shelter. That's after receiving what it describes as specific information of a potentially significant air attack. Well, overnight, Ukraine's military says Kiev's air defense units were deployed in defense of the city. Witnesses told the Reuters news agency that they heard multiple blasts. Okay, so that's happening. Escalation's happening, World War III. He's dropping bombs to tell you if I had a warhead in there, I would destroy you. All of this is going on simultaneously.

• 23:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump, I believe he said somewhere that I may have to go to Russia now to stop it. By the way, if he goes and stops this war, Ukraine, Russia, if he goes and stops everything that's going on with Israel and if he does, the idea that he deserves a Nobel Prize would be a what? An understatement. You make a very good point. If he does that. I mean, that is arguably.

• 24:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Who would disagree? Tom, what is the process of Nobel Prize? If he's able to do that, who nominates? Because Nobels, most of the Nobel winners are on the left.

• 24:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, exactly. The Nobel Prizes, you can go look this up, are given through an arcane nomination process and they go into a backroom and they decide who they're going to give it to. And the Nobel Peace Prize is basically a political football. You know, you look around the world, the people that have really caused peace, and you have Obama made a couple speeches as soon as he was inaugurated in 09. Oh my goodness, we give it to... For fostering an environment of peace. He didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. Remember Jimmy Carter actually got, you know, Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat, correct? To come to Camp David for a week and to hash it out. So for all the things that Jimmy Carter did to the economy, there is somebody actually doing something.

• 24:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Now it's a backroom deal. It's like, it's very, it doesn't have a lot of credibility with the mainstream populace because they look at it and said, "No, this is a liberal think tank that just hands them out." Now, the medicine ones and the mathematical ones are a little more quantitative, like, "Did you really do something?" But the Nobel Peace Prize is like, you know, you... Today I look at it and it's like, "You get to be king of the liberal think tank." That's what it meant. It's like, "You were in line with the liberal think tank. You said some nice things, did some things. Here's your peace prize."

• 25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  And going back to what you asked, when you're closing an embassy, that means it's about to go down, Pat. That means it's about to happen. And the fact that, I was on the show the other day, they're like, "Oh, Putin's already threatened nuclear war before." It's at a point right now, especially with this administration, that just wants a war. I don't know why a lot of people out there aren't getting it. And they're like, "No, he's done this before. I don't care about the threats." You don't play around with somebody that's talking about this type of escalation this fast. And we know Anthony Blinken is in front of the camera going, "Hey, we gotta hurry up and send 8 billion of our dollars to them before January 20." They're trying to rush this thing. They want a war with this guy, and I don't think, Pat...

• 26:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Appropriations left in 2024. We need to use them.

• 26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Do you think he's you think you think Putin is kind of just jokingly threatening nukes? Well, let me tell you, Macron called him and said, hey, don't do anything, man. Hang tight. And I I'm telling you right now, Trump is the only guy that he's willing to negotiate with because he believes Trump's gonna keep the deal. By the way, Brandon just sent me this year, going back to telling you a little bit about a history. In 1990, Gorbachev accepted Germany's reunification and its continued membership in NATO under the explicit condition that NATO would not expand past Germany. Okay. Past Germany. U.S. Secretary of State James Baker read a book on this guy's phenomenal. Interesting guy, hated by some, loved by some, but definitely respected.

• 26:52Patrick Bet-David?

  German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, made verbal assurances to Soviet leader Gorbachev that in February 1990, Baker famously told him that NATO would move not one inch eastward beyond Germany. And what happened? They moved. What do you think he's gonna do? You didn't keep there under the deal.

• 27:12Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly what I was talking about. And remember, you asked me the other day, the Tuesday podcast. You said, what do you think Putin does? And I said, I think he's got to do something and I think he's got to drop something on an urban city. Remember I commented that? That he's got to make a thing. So what did he do? He launched long ranges and the long range things dropped in some areas. It didn't cause a lot of damage, thank God. But what did he say? He said, I can come all the way from here to your front door, dude.

• 27:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 27:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Do not screw with this.

• 27:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But but let me ask you, let me ask you, Tom. Go to it. Go to there and Adam, I'm gonna come to you with this one.

• 27:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And I agree, Trump's got to be the guy to come in there and say, Vlad, I get it, but you gotta calm down.

• 27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, remember, multiple presidents from Russia asked to join NATO each time they were turned down. Why'd you turn down the membership? What's your point? If I'm willing to join, why are you turning it down? Why are you not interested? Why do you? Why does Clinton first say, yes, let's talk about joining NATO and then eight minutes later, whatever it is, well, not right now, maybe later. Why not? We had interest to want to have peace. So this is the part where, you know, you hear the pundits, what they're saying. You hear what streets, the people, the voters are saying. You hear what the actual leaders are saying, their argument, Putin's arguments, Zelensky's argument. You hear all they're saying and you have to sit there and be like, dude. And then you go study a little bit of history on what happened in the past, like, look,

• 28:35Patrick Bet-David?

  this, this didn't just accidentally happen. Right? You don't just one day wake up and say, yeah, let's go attack them. No. You've been poking the bear. So, question, question here.

• 28:50Patrick Bet-David?

  What does Zelensky need to do? That's what the sound is. It's this chair that keeps making that sound. Back up a little bit, that keeps hitting the bottom of it. I don't, this part, look, I'm putting this down. Yeah, that's what, this is what's making the sound. I'm like, what is that sound? Guys, I'm so sorry, man. It's my first time in a chair. We thought there was a mouse in here wrapping. No, no, no, listen, but let me tell you this. So, okay, so far, here's what we've learned. How many people, how many Russians have died? Hundreds of thousands. I hear half a million, two million. Russians. Russians. And what about, what about? Same as well. Pull up. I think it's even, some say more Russians than Ukrainians, some say more Ukrainians. Before you even pull this up. Depends on who's writing you. I've actually read on this, they said collectively, there's been collective million people either dead or injured. Okay, so now, watch this.

• 29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not talking tens of thousands. No. Talking hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions. But here's the point, so you, you are the leader of Russia, think like him. Former KGB, strategic, you are all about USSR, you are about that. Yes. Right? Okay. They killed half a million of your people.

• 29:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You threaten with a nuclear weapon, you do nothing. They keep attacking. They say, let's accelerate the process of going to NATO. They, Zelensky keeps coming to US and US defends him, EU defends him, everybody's taking his side. They keep giving him money, right? Weapons, everything, whatever way you want to say it. Long range missiles. You do it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna drop a nuclear weapon on you. He does it. Biden says do it, US says do it, they do it. You now are sitting here with your handlers. You have a countdown, you know how you're in the military, you can't wait to get out of bootcamp and you go like this? You know which one I'm talking about, like, you're in jail. Yeah. You're counting, you do these, you know, this is how many days. Five is X. I mean, I remember my locker had this with bootcamp, right? We're going through it.

• 30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You're counting down 60 until Trump's here. A guy that you can negotiate with. Tough guy, but at least you can negotiate with. What does Zelensky have to do now? What else can Zelensky do for you to use a nuclear weapon? What? It's either nothing, he can spit in your face, and you're not gonna do anything? So guess what? Imagine if you're fighting somebody, you spit in the guy's face. He's been telling he's gonna nuke you. He's been telling he's gonna punch you in the face. You push him, doesn't punch. You kick him, doesn't punch. You call his girl out, doesn't punch. You throw a rock at him, doesn't punch. You hit him with a bat, doesn't punch. You spit him in the face, he doesn't punch. What does it tell you eventually? This guy's not gonna punch. Or what needs to happen for you to throw the punch that you claim you're gonna throw?

• 31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe Putin is just not gonna do it. It's either, your risk is, you have two choices. Okay? You have a hand. Everything's out. You know you have a decent hand. But you know that guy's been chasing the flush. And the last one, a hard hit. Six of hearts. There's three hearts, you're like, oh shit. If that guy's got it, do you go all in to call his bluff? What do you do? He's playing poker right now with the world. So the risk is, you know what? F it, Putin's not gonna do shit. And you're right. So let's go through it. Okay. He's not gonna do shit. Okay? And you're right. Okay? Or, guess what?

• 32:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You're gonna attack him, and he is gonna do shit. Yeah. And you're wrong. Yeah. Okay? That's the deal. Or you don't do anything, and you wait. So we do nothing. Do nothing till Trump. Okay? Which, if Zelensky really wants the relationship, you do nothing till Trump is here. Because what he's doing right now, he's not helping his relationship with Trump. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're listening to Biden, you think you're leveraging your negotiation better when I come in? This is what you're doing? And then you want to have a relationship with me and in in my face, you know, you're saying you're still gonna shoot longer long range missiles. You're listening to Biden over me? He's only gonna be here for 60 days. No problem, guy, when I come in, right? That's the part that they're flirting with.

• 32:53Patrick Bet-David?

  But so far Putin's proven he's not gonna pull nuclear. But but Pat, that that same chart that you have with the 60? Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, all these defense contracting billionaire companies? They all have that chart too and their attitude's opposite. Their attitude is like, listen, we need a war. What are we gonna keep doing to get it with this guy if we think he's not gonna do it? But I think anything that flirts with nuclear war is they need to stop because that's what they're trying to do. Think like Putin and his people, Tom. Correct. Think like them.

• 33:24Tom Ellsworth?

  And by the way, strong men have been saying, oh, I'm gonna do nukes. I'm gonna do the big bombs. They've been saying it for generations, right? How many times do they say it against Israel? One more time and we will bring the fires of hell. One more time and we will unleash everything we have, even if they're not nukes, right? This is the way strong men talk. But what you have to respect is Putin. And I think that there's a bunch of people out there that want folks to believe that Putin's on the edge of doing it. We gotta do this. I don't think Joe Biden said squat.

• 34:02Tom Ellsworth?

  I believe that that comment was placed and put by Blinken and the shadow government that's there behind him that want this war. This this war has been the biggest money laundering effort in the history of the last 100 years. Those dollars, half of those dollars, half of them are making U-turns and coming back to US defense contractors. Because when I give him a billion dollars to go buy tanks, where does he get the tanks?

• 34:34Patrick Bet-David?

  From us.

• 34:34Tom Ellsworth?

  He calls General Dynamics, hey, I need five Model 7s and 44 Model 8s. Can you FedEx them? Can I pay? For Amazon Prime, can I get them by Thursday? You know, that's what's going on here. And right now, there are people that want the economic benefit of war. Because of the huge economic benefit to the USA and the huge manipulative benefit that the globalists want. That's what they want. But I don't think Putin's gonna take the next move. I said he had to show something. He had to show a response. So he just showed that he could launch-

• 35:06Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what does Zelensky or US have to do for him to drop a nuclear bomb next 60 days? Nothing?

• 35:11Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I-

• 35:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Nothing?

• 35:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't think Zel-

• 35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Flirt with his girl. Talk to his wife. What do they need to do for him to do anything?

• 35:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Look, I, I don't think-

• 35:20Patrick Bet-David?

  The answer is either something or nothing.

• 35:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't think there's anything that Zelensky can do short of a really highly escalated, you know, like, military weapon.

• 35:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Like what, though, Tom?

• 35:31Tom Ellsworth?

  If Zelensky-

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I know, but what, like, if US is what?

• 35:34Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I have an idea. Well, no, no, remember, he's launching these- Zelensky launched things into Russia, into military backup. So he launched them in the supply lines. He didn't go further than that. If Zelensky was go to, you understand what I'm saying? If he goes to a real Russian target- No. I think, I think Putin will, will step. But he's only been launching to back up supply lines and where the troops are. Yeah.

• 35:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so why, why, why is he not launching?

• 36:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Who, Putin?

• 36:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what is, what is his fear of not launching?

• 36:07Tom Ellsworth?

  If Zelensky escalates this-

• 36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 36:08Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a dead man. Zelensky, Zel- I, I happen to think that right now, Zelensky is probably a dead man.

• 36:17Patrick Bet-David?

  What does that mean?

• 36:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that what's about to happen is they're gonna calm this war down. Russia's gonna take Crimea. There's gonna be a border similar to North Korea and the DMZ. The West has been doing that way, similar to the West Bank between Egypt and Israel. This is how modern wars have been solved. And Russia's gonna get a strip. Russia's gonna get Crimea. Russia's gonna get what it's want. All of our media's gonna say, "See, Trump gave it the sovereign territory back to him." But it's been happening over and over. And then I think the thing calms down. And then I, I think somebody, whether it's the other side of Ukraine- Remember, there's a whole other side in Ukraine that does not like Zelensky. He took out other guys. There's people that don't like that, and Putin doesn't like that.

• 37:02Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, I, I, I think Zelensky gets assassinated.

• 37:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I don't mean tomorrow morning, but I don't, I don't think Zelensky lives to see the end of the next four years.

• 37:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And let's not, let's not forget, maybe a rogue element, like you remember the movie Some of All Feels, all you need is some rogue element to go into Russia, PBD with a tactical nuke or something smaller and detonate it and then it's over. Rapid fire, I think, uh, listen, nobody, and I mean, nobody wants a nuclear war. And there's a lot of rhetoric out there, but I think everybody understands that once nuclear war starts, nobody wins. Both sides are going to have death and destruction. America, at the very least, understands the fact that we have the greatest defense mechanism of all time, and it's called the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, and we're not in this world. Number two.

• 37:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, it's not the war, you know, it's the, it's the climate change, it's a nuclear winter, and it's the fallout.

• 37:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Nobody wants it, is my point. Number two, I think if anything happened to Moscow or the capital, St. Pete, anything like that, we have some issues on our hands. That's why they're kind of, uh, dealing with certain components of where they're at on the, on the border. Number three, Tom made a great point. You know how much money has gone to Ukraine from the United States and the EU? Two hundred billion? According to the stats, Ukraine, this is before they've even sent it, 175 billion from the US, 100 billion from the EU. You know, you talk about what's going on in, in Israel, in, since 1948, 75 plus years, you know how much the aid the United States have given to Israel? 158 billion. In 75 plus years, it doesn't equal what they, what they've given to Ukraine in two years. Follow the money.

• 38:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, we talked about this about a year ago, the most corrupt country in all of Europe, the EU, is number one, Russia. Number two is Ukraine. So who knows where all this money is going, where all this money is flowing? Follow the money. But here's the thing, Trump wrote the book, The Art of the Deal, a deal's gotta get done here. Nobody has the stomach to sustain this war anymore. I'm, I'm just telling you, everybody in the world, including in Europe or surrounding countries and US, 60 days can't come fast enough. That's all I'm telling you. 60 days can't come fast enough because this could have been an opportunity for Biden to intercept, uh, uh, Trump's, you know, opportu-

• 39:22Patrick Bet-David?

  To save the day and bring these two guys together and stop the war. Instead, he's hurting his legacy if this thing continues this way. I, if there is one in this situation, I. Quick question for you, PB. Yeah, Mel's sleep prize. You know how you always talk about who's in your ear, who's in your, who's in your ear? Who do you think Putin actually respects and is in his ear? Trump, possibly one of them? I mean, if you go down the list of who are Russia's allies. Number one, I think is Belarus. Nobody's intimidated by Belarus. Then you have China, then you have Bashar al-Assad in Syria. North Korea. You've got North Korea, you've got Cuba, you've got Venezuela. Who actually would Trump, uh, I'm sorry, Putin listen to? And say, all right, man, it's time to end this war. Who do you think he would actually listen to?

• 40:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I think it's gonna be Xi or Trump. I think it's those two. Every, he knows, listen, when you've been in room with, like, okay. You're 16 years old, somebody that's something to one of our friend's sisters. Not like this has happened to me, I'm just telling a story. You're 16 years old, you're in a room, it's like, listen, guys. That guy did this to them, to my sister, and here's what's going on. Really? Yeah. You're in a room with five of your friends, okay? It's very simple. And you're, you're, let's just say you're the head guy that ever. You say, hey, what did they do to your sister? They did this. Really? Who? Boom. Seriously? Yeah. One guy says, we should kill him. So you already know that guy's who?

• 40:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That guy is the North Korea guy. Goes straight to what? We should kill him. Everybody has that one friend. One guy says, dude, it's not a big deal, let's just kinda move on. I mean, it's gonna happen. You know who that guy is? He's the one that's afraid of conflict. This guy just wants conflict, right? Then you got the one guy that says, well, have you spoken to him yet? Why don't we go talk to him? And if they don't give the respect, guess what? He has to know you can't do stuff like that. Okay? And then this guy says what? I'm game. Whatever's going on, you tell me. Hey, I can't tell you what we're doing, I can't tell you this, you know? Go ahead, say the line. I need your help. I can't tell you what it is, you can never ask me about it later, and we're gonna hurt some people. Whose car are we taking? Oh, I love that guy. So that's this guy. Yeah. But this is the guy you need to listen to.

• 41:33Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the guy that's reason. He's the pansy. He's the killer. This guy is like the flag carrier, but this guy is the reason, voice of reason. You have to listen to this guy. Trust me, Putin knows who wants the war. Putin knows who's afraid. Putin knows who's like this ride or die. But it's not a reason guy, and Putin knows who's the voice. He, he knows, this guy's been with, this guy's been with gangsters. You know, when you're dealing with that community who to listen to, who not to listen to. He can't wait to sit down and negotiate with somebody that can actually deliver. And that guy's name is Trump, but he's gotta wait 60 days. Anyways, we'll see what's gonna happen. God willing, nothing happens, folks, and you know, a, a, a lot of good news and

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  if there's not a Nobel Prize, you know, maybe they'll give him a different kind of a prize, a George Washington Prize. I don't know, I don't know how, what they do here, but there's gonna be some kind of recognition piece going to Trump if the Nobel doesn't want to give it to him. Let's go to the next one. So here's a story with tariffs that I want to get into. So all this conversation about tariffs. Target, the stock drops nearly 20% after earnings call falls short. Now, why is Target important? Who shops at Target? Mainstream America. Mainstream America. FYI, we're always at Target ourselves because, you know, we may have money, but we kinda like to, we you know, like to go to Target as well, or Walmart. I respect both of those places. Save that money.

• 43:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Target shares drops 18%. That's a $10 billion day that we're talking about. Okay, literally. Uh, uh, 18%, May of 22nd, we're third quarter, 1.5, 25 billion dollars in revenue, missing estimates by 2.3 shares of 25.9 billion, and the market reacts. Then Forbes story tariffs will probably cause Walmart price hikes, CFO says. Forceful tariffs promoted by Trump would likely lead to higher prices for consumers, according to a top executive at Walmart, the US's largest company by revenue. Notable warning on the potential inflationary effects of Trump's favorable trade policy tool.

• 43:42Patrick Bet-David?

  will be cases where prices will go up for consumers. And Walmart's chief financial officer told CNBC. Uh, the impact of this prices of roughly 10% tax on all imports and 60% tax on Chinese. Imports backed by Trump tariffs are inflationary for customers. Rainey added, of course, you know which way he voted. It's not immediately clear how quickly tariffs will be implemented. The odds of 10% across the board tariffs in 2025 are low. Wrote JP Morgan's chief. US economist Michael Faroli, right? Then Ford to cut 14% of European jobs. They're worried. What the hell is going on with tariffs? It's a real thing that a lot of people are worried about now. Lutnick, which by the way, Howard Lutnick.

• 44:25Patrick Bet-David?

  First of all, he's on fire and the way he speaks. You'll like to listen to him. He has the ability to go and use his fire that he has. And at the same time, Rob, this is a tweet that you have. And he has the ability to reason and use math and common sense. But the way he explains the history. Of what happened with tariffs and how it was then explaining Germany. How much tariffs they give us? And there's no Ford. We talked about this on one of the tariffs videos we made. This is pure common sense. Go ahead and listen to this, folks.

• 44:54Speaker 00

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• 45:55Speaker 05

  We can't sell a Ford or GM in Europe. You go to Europe, you can't sell a Ford or GM. Why? There's 100% tariffs. How about in Japan? 100% tariffs. So do you think if we said, "We're going to tariff you the way you tariff us," do you think they're going to allow Mercedes and all these Japanese companies and Porsches and BMWs to all of a sudden have 100% tariffs in America? Of course not. They're going to come and negotiate and their tariffs are going to come down. And finally, Ford and General Motors are going to be able to sell in these places. How's that sound? Of course they're going to come down. Of course, this is just negotiating. Strategically, it absolutely makes sense. If you do it strategically, if it's across the board, it creates a real problem.

• 46:40Speaker 05

  And the question is whether you believe the president is going to do it strategically or across the board. He keeps saying it across the board. Well, when you're running for office, you make broad statements so people understand you, okay? Tariffs are an amazing tool by the president to use. They're an amazing tool. He's right. He understands, "Don't tariff stuff we don't make," right? If we don't make it and you want to buy it, I don't want to put the price up. It's pointless. But use tariffs to build in America. If we want to make it in America, tariff it. Or if we're competing with a tariff. But you've got to remember, we need to protect the American worker. Finally, someone's going to protect the American worker. And Donald Trump is here to protect the American worker.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  Do you think we make a lot of money in tariffs? Or if they're used as negotiating tactics, look, tariffs will come down there. We're not going to have super high tariffs here either. There's not going to be a big pot of money at the end of the day.

• 47:30Speaker 05

  I love that story. So which is it? Do we make a lot of money on tariffs? Or we bring productivity here and we drive up our workers here? So it's a win-win scenario. I like both of them. I think what's going to happen is we'll make a bunch of money on the tariffs, but mostly... This, everybody else is gonna negotiate with us and we will be more fair. In 1948, right, we came up with something called the Marshall Plan, right? The world, Germany and Japan were destroyed after World War II. And we wanted to export our economy to them. So we made a rule, they could tariff us and we won't tariff them. So they can rebuild- This is the best explanation I've heard of- So they can rebuild their economy.

• 48:14Speaker 05

  We rebuilt their economy using something called the Marshall Plan. Our economy is so awesome that we'll use it to help you rebuild. When should that have ended? What do you think, 1980? Right, 1985? I mean, why 40 years are Japan and Germany and all of Europe still tariffing the heck out of our auto industry? Tariffing the heck out of our furniture industry? There you go. Do you realize all your furniture line that's made foreign? It seems crazy, why? It's because they tariff us and we don't tariff them. It's so obvious. I'm with it. I am with it. Tom, go for it.

• 48:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, common sense enters the arena. And I think people of all walks of life should listen to that and understand what's going on. And the negotiator at the table is gonna be Donald Trump. And that one reporter there, Aaron Sorkin, you know, he's like, well, he keeps saying across the board. And he knows that Trump doesn't mean across the board. And he had to kind of correct him in saying, look, you're saying that during an election. And people say across the board because they want to make it sound like Trump is gonna hurt us and prices are gonna go up and all these things are gonna happen. I'm gonna get to the Walmart guy in just a second. Instead, he's out to negotiate with people so it's a fair playing field and American workers can be making cars that are bought by French citizens. And for French citizens who don't want to buy the Peugeot anymore, which is probably

• 49:37Tom Ellsworth?

  a good idea, maybe someday you'll be able to buy a Ford, a Ford EV or a Mustang and see American ingenuity and American entrepreneurship and the American brand come to you at an affordable price. He's absolutely right. And guess what? Donald Trump is gonna be the negotiator in chief and this is gonna turbocharge what's happening in the economy. Now, what are people saying? What are the liberal media saying? Your prices are going up because of Trump. Prices are going up because they're already trying to throw the peanut butter at them and see what's gonna stick. But you know what? Even the guy at Walmart said, ah, we don't really see a 10% hike coming, coming across the board. We don't see that happen. We think the odds of that in 25 are low. But what is

• 50:19Tom Ellsworth?

  the headline that Forbes, owned by the Chinese, that puts up there? What is the headline? The headline is, oh, it's gonna cause price hikes. Trump's gonna cause it to you. He's not even in there in a position where he can actually help, and they're already going after it. But if you haven't heard this, watch this. Have your kids in high school and college, watch this. This is the best explanation and common sense explanation that you have, that it was American benevolence to help these companies, countries rebuild.

• 50:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what it is, parenting, right? I mean, the easiest way to bring it to the average day-to-day person to here is the following. Tom, give me five different types of parents on how they punish their kids. Remember, when I say five different types, super strict, like imagine that same story I just gave with the five examples of a friend that wanna go to fight the girl, you know, the sisters, you know, the five guys, you got the guy that wants to kill, the guy that wants to avoid the fight. Give me five types parents discipline their kids.

• 51:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, we'll, we'll start at the, we'll start at the most aggressive. One strike, you're grounded, and they make it stick. Very, like, let's, let's call that the boot camp military parent. They're fair, they're not beating their kids, but it's one strike and you're grounded, or you sit in the corner, you have timeout or whatever. Then you get to the people, maybe it's the three-strike people.

• 51:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Three-strike rule.

• 51:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Three-strike rule. Then you get to the negotiator, where you see a kid having a fit in the, on, having a tantrum at Target. No, no, Jeremy, no, no, Jeremy, no, no, Jeremy, I'll give you ice cream. The negotiator parent.

• 51:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 51:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And then you've got the threaten and do nothing. And then lastly, you've got the absent parent. There is no discipline, and they expect the schools to do it. I kinda see a, and by the way, Kim has educated me on four of these, cuz she sees it in classrooms every day.

• 52:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why I ask you, because you're in it every day. By the way, I would even put one past the one-strike guy. You know what the other one is? The one that punches you, hits you, sticks, ass-whupping, belt, whatever you wanna call it. That's the fully, fully that one.

• 52:15Tom Ellsworth?

  I was thinking boot camps. I'm being, he's almost there.

• 52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, but he, it's, it's still.

• 52:19Tom Ellsworth?

  We know how you were raised, Tom. There's some of us that

• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  But guess what?

• 52:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Met the belt or the fist or the bat.

• 52:24Patrick Bet-David?

  But guess what? No matter what you do, you build a reputation. And once as a parent, you have a reputation, you don't need to There's not much you can do to rebuild that reputation. Meaning, if you're tough, kid's not, it's not gonna happen. Listen, bro, don't do it. If they can get whatever they want from you, you're not, they're like, listen, don't try to act tough. We know who you are. You're easy. You're gonna give me the candy, okay? And I'm gonna eat that chocolate and the ice cream. There's nothing you can do about it. Just negotiate with them. They say that in their head. When it comes down to tariffs, here's how it works. Some presidents are like, look, why don't you just buy some Ford from us?

• 53:05Patrick Bet-David?

  And Germany says, no, but please, but no. But why don't you? Because you're a moron. And I'm tariffing you 100% and you're not do nothing to me. You're letting me sell you BMW, Mercedes and everything. And you're literally the worst negotiator I've ever dated in my life. And you don't have a backbone. You're weak. Got it? Then this other guy shows up. All right. Can you tell me why you tariff us 100% if we sell our cars in your country and we do nothing? Oh, it's just an agreement that we made 48 years ago. It's a tradition. I don't give a shit. Why do you do this? Uh, well, well, listen, here's what we got.

• 53:47Patrick Bet-David?

  You got 30 days to lord that 100% tariff to zero and commit to buying $50 billion of our cars every year. Or else we're taking it to 100%. All your cars come in here. I'm gonna sell my cars in America. Quite frankly, our cars are better than yours and cheaper than yours. Screw you. What do you want to do BMW, Mercedes? Oh, then look, oh shit. There's a new sheriff in town that I gotta be careful with. This is the whole concept of pop out and disciplining your kids and negotiating. Yeah. Very simple. You don't want to pop out. Some people, some parents are like, but no, you, it's, it's, it's just a child. The guy's 12 years old, he's not a child. It's just a kid.

• 54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Like dude, what the hell are you talking about? You know, at six years old, when there's gotta be some disciplines in place, right? Like right now with Brooklyn. Brooklyn knows. You know, we go to dinner, we go to. Yeah. Where does Brooklyn sit? She sits next to you. Every time, and she says, she goes like this, daddy. What does she say? She goes, she, like, like, right off the rip. She goes daddy, I'm gonna eat all my chicken and all my pasta. Cause I don't wanna get pop off, cause you don't wanna get ice cream at the end of this. Right. She's negotiating before the, we haven't even met the waiter yet. I, I no go time out. I'm not gonna go time out, I don't want pop off. No go time out. So if she goes, now, we have a basic rule in our family. The ice cream here is good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't give the girls pop offs. The boys, it's a different story. Mommy gives the girls pop offs.

• 55:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's a different story. But time out, God forbid you put Brooklyn in time out. She hates it. Oh, and I'll, I'll put there, I'll put her there for 15 minutes. And I'll say, you can cry for 45 minutes, I'll leave you here. I said, the moment you're done crying, I'll come back to you. So she'll go 10, 15, I'm like, Melba's like daddy. I gotta, gotta, I gotta put baby to sleep. I said, nope, she needs to learn. 15 minutes, you ready? I'm ready. And I come, like, so, are you good? Yes. Are you done? Yes. Alright, who loves you? Daddy, you gonna do this again? No. No. Alright, let's go over there. We go over there, boom, we're good, come back. So now she knows what happens. But you set the tone. So to me tariffs, I'm actually excited to see what's gonna be happening. I love the way Howard Lutnick broke it down. And for the people that are pro, anti, whatever position you have. Just remember styles of parenting.

• 56:00Patrick Bet-David?

  If you're a soft parent, you probably don't want any tariffs. But if you're a tough parent, cause you work your ass off and you deliver a good life to your kids. And you expect a little bit more than the average parent that's worried about walking on eggshells and their kids control them. You're probably gonna be a guy. That's gonna be pro tariffs. But that's how simple that argument is. It is a tool that we must use to bring back business here. However. There is a however, Tom. I met with my Goldman Sachs guy yesterday. Yesterday or two days, yes, no, two days ago, right? Yesterday we were in, we were in, uh, what do you call it, Orlando. And I said, so, uh, what's Goldman Sachs' position now that's Trump's president? And he says, well, the last 10 years, S and P did 13%.

• 56:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Since 1930, S and P did 11%. I said, what does Goldman Sachs think S and P is gonna do the next 10 years? He said, we're at 3 to 6% annual growth. I said, really? Why is that? He says, well, uh, the moment Trump got elected, interest rates went up.

• 57:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you saw this.

• 57:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  He says, "The reason why interest rates went up is because a lot of people were worried that inflation's gonna hit, inflation's not gonna settle down, tariffs are gonna be an issue, companies are not gonna make as much profits to reinvest into the company." And we still don't know, but that was the market's reaction to it. You'll know if that's real or not within six to 12 months. That's how long we'll know by about June. Would you agree, Tom, that by about June or November, we'll know if it's real or not?

• 57:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, we'll know, well, actually, we'll know probably April and May, because the Secretary of Treasury will be put in place.

• 57:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 57:36Tom Ellsworth?

  And we'll know about the Trump tax plan, which is the thing that he can do definitively for the economy.

• 57:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 57:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Everything else, we kind of wait and see it shake out.

• 57:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So six months. We'll know about six months.

• 57:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Right? April, May. Okay. So that's the part where, you know, you have to kind of know that there is a possible, like, when you are strong negotiating with somebody, until the deal is done, there is a lot of turbulence during that period. So if this tariff negotiation lasts 12 months, the economy is gonna be a little bit in a shake, you know, it's gonna be like shaky. But once everybody agrees with the terms 12 months from now, it's gonna go like this, my opinion. But there's gonna be a season of 12 months of people being worried a little bit still, Tom.

• 58:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I think we really need to be very, very patient with 2025, because I'll tell you a couple moves. I've been thinking about the tariff thing ever since I saw Lutnik's video, and I'm like, "Wow, what a great way to put it." So BMW built a massive, massive, massive, massive, massive manufacturing plant to build BMWs in the US in South Carolina. Then Mercedes built a massive, massive, massive plant in Alabama, right near Tuscaloosa, right on Highway 10. So as soon as Trump goes tariff, BMW and Mercedes will do furloughs or threaten layoffs of American workers in those cities, because they'll want to create headline problems for Trump. And Trump can't blink. You understand, you see where this is going?

• 59:05Tom Ellsworth?

  He can't blink. He's gotta say, "No, no, no, no, no, sorry, we're gonna have Fords and GM sold over there. I need these tariffs to come off." Because the German government will go back around the tree and whisper to BMW and Mercedes. Hey, tell them to do that. Trump needs to get some headline rest. So we need to be patient with it because we can't blink because they will blink first. They will absolutely blink first. We gotta be patient with it because we talked about the year of investigation and the year of prosecutions and the year of it. Next year is is going to be the year of transition in certain things in our economy. And we need to be patient and let the man negotiate and let it come down.

• 59:43Patrick Bet-David?

  And Howard Lutnick was named what position? Was he the head of commerce?

• 59:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Secretary of Commerce and I am a happy boy because I don't think they cannot confirm him.

• 59:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, well, we're gonna see what happens with that. But one of the things that I, listen, I think this is such an important conversation because there's a lot of people out there and I'm in business and finance and I don't basically understand this. And I'm trying to filter it down, filter it down, filter it down. One of the things that Trump says that's very memorable when the PBD did the interview with him, he goes tariffs. They're my favorite word. It's possibly better than the word love. Actually, it is. I love tariffs. I could just see him in bed being like, yeah, you like that tariff? So dirty. Anyway, but there is the concept, relax, Tom, excuse me.

• 1:00:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There is the concept, you know how Trump is always like, we're being treated very unfairly, very unfairly. You know, the Republican Party, since Reagan, has always been known as the party of free trade. But now with Trump, it's sort of becoming the party of fair trade. You gotta be treated fairly. So I want to see what happens here. And I love the explanation that you did. I don't know, maybe a month ago, and you basically said, if I send you 10 referrals, you give me 10 and I give you 100. That doesn't seem pretty fair to me. And then if, as it escalates, as it escalates, we can understand why America's been treated so unfairly. And then the Marshall Plan was in, what, 1948, 1948? Then there was the WTO and NAFTA, all in basically the mid 90s, 94, 95. So all these things that have sort of been not.

• 1:01:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Sort of failing the test of time, we're gonna see what Trump does to eliminate them. You realize if you think about like, how many countries' economies America has helped? Just think about that for a second. For as much shit as people say about America, how many countries' economies have we helped? Okay, how many? When they came begging, how many times have we helped? It's amazing on how many we've helped. Look at that right there. The United States has provided foreign aid to over 550 countries, as well as 30 regional funds, and that's great. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about creating commerce. Letting them know, hey, you may want to consider doing,

• 1:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, and by the way, then there's a counter argument to say, dude, what if we didn't help any of those guys? What if we just focused on ourselves? Like more of a protectionist type of mentality? What if we went to 100% tariffs on everything that comes in and 0% taxes on the money you make? When you think about that? Anything that comes in, we tariff 100%. So prices will go up. So let's just say this iPhone is $1,400 to buy. Okay. But if Trump and them, like, stay with me here. If they put 100% tariffs on anything coming out to force companies to build in America, and this phone goes from $1,400 to $2,400. $2,800. $2,800. Let's say $2,800, okay?

• 1:02:37Patrick Bet-David?

  If it goes to $2,800, and the only reason I'm saying 24 is because there's a story that says, if iPhones were made in America, it'd be worth $2,400. If it was made elsewhere, so it's an 80% increase. That's why I said $2,400.

• 1:02:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Now you may say, damn, that's a lot, but what if? This shit goes up to 2,400, but you pay no taxes.

• 1:02:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So imagine you're making 100 grand a year. 30 grand goes to taxes. Now you're, instead of making 70 grand, you're keeping 100 grand. So think about that part.

• 1:03:07Tom Ellsworth?

  I would do that deal of no taxes.

• 1:03:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I know you would.

• 1:03:10Tom Ellsworth?

  All day, every day, every damn day, 24/7.

• 1:03:12Patrick Bet-David?

  FYI, you got a Vivek, you got a Musk, okay? You got a Trump, right? You got all these guys, you got the Lutniks of the world, you got all of these guys in the room together. If they did something revolutionary like that and they tested it for two years and they said, folks, 2027 is the first year where you're not paying any taxes.

• 1:03:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You know what that's called? It's called consumption tax. You pay on what you consume.

• 1:03:39Patrick Bet-David?

  VT, is that a VAT tax? VAT, VAT, yeah.

• 1:03:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Valuated tax. And think of, also, you should also think about this, about Europe.

• 1:03:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy. McCrake, McCrake.

• 1:03:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's think about, right, is it safe to say that most countries in Europe, almost all of them, now have a very socialist bent and bending away from capitalist principles?

• 1:04:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Bent, B E N T.

• 1:04:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Bent.

• 1:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Like, they're not bending, it's just a bent. They're bending the knee to communism, we know that.

• 1:04:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, it's like the wind, the wind is blowing them towards socialism, right?

• 1:04:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, right.

• 1:04:10Tom Ellsworth?

  So they're bending. It's just safe to say, right?

• 1:04:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 1:04:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, for a bunch of socialist, you sure love market share that you get artificially because of those tariffs.

• 1:04:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Zing, Tom.

• 1:04:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you take the tariffs off and Ford and GM can compete for that market share of cars. So for a bunch of little bloody socialist, you sure like artificial market share. So you're like little closet capitalist.

• 1:04:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Pow! I love when Tom gets fired up. I'm glad that it's not in my direction. Next thing you know, I'm gonna be a little bit, but Tom.

• 1:04:38Tom Ellsworth?

  I got a message for the, got a message for the Chancellor of Commerce in Germany. Du kannst mich mal am Aschlecken.

• 1:04:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, damn! Shots fired, you freaking crap!

• 1:04:48Tom Ellsworth?

  You go watch the, I know what, I know what I said. Watch the comments.

• 1:04:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yo, shots fired, bro, from the TV Podcast.

• 1:04:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, I don't know, the Jew and me got a little offended right? Right there, but whatever that was.

• 1:04:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to a different story. Let's go to, because Tom's getting angry, I want to skip it. Let's go to a different story.

• 1:05:02Tom Ellsworth?

  He's slicking that guy.

• 1:05:03Patrick Bet-David?

  That was a little too much. That was a little too much.

• 1:05:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I think Tom's licking some ass.

• 1:05:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so let's go to the next one here. All right, so next, by the way, what a rough week. That Sunny, uh, from The View, that, you know, she's having such a tough week because she really wants to go after Matt Gaetz, where she is forced to have to do this. If you can play this clip, Rob, before and after, and the way they do it, and then Whoopi says, "All right, we'll have to go to commercial break and we'll be back in a minute." Go ahead, Rob. How could you nominate someone with allegations of child trafficking across, or trafficking across state lines, and having sex with a 17-year-old? My understanding, further on in the interview, they discussed the fact that once he finds out that she's 17, he stops having sex with her. Sunny, you have a legal no.

• 1:05:52Patrick Bet-David?

  I do have a legal no, thank you, Whoopi.

• 1:05:55Tom Ellsworth?

  How excited she says to read this.

• 1:05:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims, quote, "invented", and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear, following a three-year criminal investigation, should be viewed with great skepticism, that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought. We'll be right back.

• 1:06:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We'll be right back.

• 1:06:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Why did she look like she was gonna cry when she read that?

• 1:06:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did she have to read that?

• 1:06:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Because of two things. First, Gaetz went hard to the hoop with his lawyers and went after ABC, and that was the best that they could get them to read. It should have been more than that, it should have been more of apology, but Gaetz went hard to the hoop and said, "No charges are filed against me", and there's a thing in media about absence of malice, is one of the things we talked about with Will Kane. They had malice. They were absolutely mean-spirited and hateful going after Matt Gaetz on the show. And they got caught, and Gaetz went after them. The second reason they said it is because the ABC attorneys know that...

• 1:07:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump is about to name the head of the FCC because he's president. And the head of the FCC has already said that he is going to review CBS and 60 Minutes for the way they edited a presidential candidate interview in the name of campaigning versus straight, honest, neutral news. ABC is seen down the street that the, oh man, you know, the FCC is going to be coming down the street. Yeah, they're going to be upset. They're going to walk in, ABC, at CBS, they're going to talk to them. Yeah, we don't want that. So ABC took a step. So, two points. One, Matt Gaetzel's attorneys got after it, PBD. And number two, there's a new sheriff in town running the FCC.

• 1:07:47Tom Ellsworth?

  They're already going after CBS and ABC want none of that.

• 1:07:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's what I want to do, Tom. Let's go right into what you wanted to talk about with MSNBC numbers, right? And a video, folks, I want to play for you with Bill O'Reilly talking about what could happen to ABC. You have to see this, the way he breaks it down, okay? You have to see the way he breaks it down. But Tom, why don't you first tell us some of the data you saw with MSNBC? Let me, let me just actually set you up before you go there because this is by far the best way to set you up. Folks, imagine you're CNN and MSNBC. You're at a point that you're okay losing to Fox. You're at a point that you're okay losing to Rogan. You're at a point that you may even okay losing to other podcasters, right? You know, election night, some people are putting more numbers than you are. We did that on election night. You're like, listen, those guys are amateurs.

• 1:08:36Patrick Bet-David?

  We're pros. We built the Titanic. The amateurs are building the Joe Rogan experience, the PBD podcast, all this other stuff. But these are amateurs. But imagine you wake up one day and your producer comes to you and says, guys, what? Hallmark just beat us. Well, wait, bro, what are you talking about? Hallmark just beat us. Tell me nobody's written that article yet. Bro, they wrote it already. That's bullshit. No. Hallmark? They made cards. Give them a Hallmark. Hallmark beat CNN and MSNBC. NBC in viewership last week. No way. Here's a supersized guide to rating in all thirty two new holiday films. Can you imagine that? How do you let Hallmark beat you? You can let a lot of people beat you. You cannot let Hallmark beat you.

• 1:09:20Patrick Bet-David?

  We're not talking, we're talking about practice, right? We're talking about Hallmark. We cannot be talking about Hallmark here, right? I mean, you understand what? Reference of the great AI. Hallmark Channel ranked as third most popular cable network in prime and so total viewership during the week of November eleventh to the seventeenth. Averaging eight hundred and ten thousand primetime viewers and four seven nine nine daily viewers. Surpassing both MSNBC CNN and according to Nielsen, this was a. This rise coincides with Hallmark's annual countdown to Christmas holiday movie lineup. Hallmark's holiday performing has reached twenty point one million unique viewers in November nineteenth. And in other words, they're kicking CNN MSNBC's ass. But Tom, why is this happening?

• 1:09:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, words talk, numbers scream, and then Joe Scarborough cries is what works out. So very interesting stuff here. You take a look at all the cable nets and the ratings came out from November eleventh to seventeen. So the week after, the week after the election, see the election week goes, the week after that, everything calms down. Everybody knows what's going on, votes are counted. Fox

• 1:10:20Tom Ellsworth?

  had sixty nine percent of the viewership on the cable nets for the week. Think about that, Pat. Of all those cable nets, Fox had sixty nine percent and they averaged one point nine million viewers. By the way, folks, that is the highest in the twenty eight year history of Fox. This is the biggest week in their twenty eight year history. Would you like to know who had the lowest in their twenty five year history?

• 1:10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Tell us.

• 1:10:51Tom Ellsworth?

  MSNBC. Fox is the highest in twenty eight years. MSNBC is the lowest in twenty eight years. It, Fox was the only one over a million and they were at one point nine million average. ESPN was not at a million, but it was up in second place. Normally ESPN's behind the news guys, right behind them. And then, yes, mighty Hallmark with Grandma Goes to Heaven and Puppies in Love, that kind of programming, they're in third place. Then MSNBC, 487,000, that was down 50% from earlier this year. Then CNN, 337,000, down 33%. By the way,

• 1:11:32Tom Ellsworth?

  CNN was 40% off Hallmark. It gets better. When you take the week of November 11, 17, the top 100 cable news telecast, line them all up, the 100 of them, 100 cable news telecast, and you got all the shows, right? What percent of them, Vinnie, were Fox number one? I mean, of the top 100, what percent of those were Fox telecasts?

• 1:11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Jeez.

• 1:12:00Tom Ellsworth?

  50%, 60%, 70%?

• 1:12:03Patrick Bet-David?

  48%.

• 1:12:05Tom Ellsworth?

  All 100!

• 1:12:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, man.

• 1:12:07Tom Ellsworth?

  All 100 of the top 100 cable news telecast for the week 11, 17 were Fox. MSNBC had several programs that had all-time lows, which leads us to the headline where Comcast, Brian Roberts, now watch this, Vinnie, watch this, okay? Once upon a time, they sold cable bundles, right? For about 60, 40 bucks to start, usually about 85 bucks, 80 bucks to get all the channels you want, including some ESPN's and sports, right?

• 1:12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:12:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. Now they're selling internet for that. They're selling the pipe for 70 to 100. Like, if you put the internet in your house and you're going to get the fast stuff, it's like 70 to 100. And the cable nets are not profitable. So they're gathering up MSNBC, CNBC, and all of those, and they're putting them in a basket, and they're saying, "Well, somebody adopt this child." Better yet, we'll spin it off the stock market. But the stock market is saying, "Yeah, but if you spin it out, where's the growth? Where's the profit? Because it's a stock, people want to invest in it. What are you going to do with that? It's probably going to go private to private equity." They want to spin those out of Comcast because they're making- In the money, Pat, seventy, ninety bucks they make on.

• 1:13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, is it even worth buying MSNBC today? Like, there was rumors that Elon may buy MSNBC. Is it even worth, like, let's just say for us, we're a small media company. Is it worth for us buying a company like MSNBC? So we now have a cable audience as well. Would that be a beneficial strategy for a small media company like us?

• 1:13:36Tom Ellsworth?

  I think it would be for CNN because that's a great brand. You have to remember, so the answer to your question is yes, if it was something like a CNN brand. But MSNBC was a Frankenstein. MSNBC was created years and years and years ago. Do you remember when Yahoo, you just put in your zip code on the Yahoo page and it'll give you movies, stories that were local, all that stuff? MSN had the same thing, right, over at MSN? You had a Yahoo address or MSN? Microsoft sold that to NBC and they created MSNBC. Remember, MS in MSNBC stands for Microsoft. But then Microsoft got rid of its ownership in the channel and got rid of its ownership on the, um, the internet. The internet webpage. And so it's MSNBC, but they no longer say Microsoft because Microsoft's been out forever.

• 1:14:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What if we buy?

• 1:14:20Tom Ellsworth?

  This was a Frankenstein and it's lived out its.

• 1:14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  What if you buy it and you change it and it's called VT News? What if you buy it and it's a different name given to it?

• 1:14:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you would.

• 1:14:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You would have to get rid of the NBC and the MSN.

• 1:14:32Tom Ellsworth?

  You would, you would have what's called slots on all the cable, like Cox, Comcast and Hulu. You would have a slot there in the lineup, which is worth something.

• 1:14:40Patrick Bet-David?

  What's that worth to us? If you have the right people.

• 1:14:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I don't know. I mean, I think there's a real quant you could put on it because what you're describing, remember? Zaz, who's the guy atop of, um, Warner Brothers Discovery? He went to the Allen Conference where they wear all the cool vests that say Allen and Company. And remember, he tried to give away CNN at the Allen Conference and there were no takers. And people were rumored that it could be as low as a billion bucks. Remember that? Other people said, no, no, no, it'll go for eight to nine billion. And it's like, how? You know, for what? And so this is what's going on. And then the cherry on top from the numbers, we'll go back to it and then I'll let you comment here. The five beat Saturday Night Live.

• 1:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Gotta love that. By the way, while we're going through this, Rob, play this clip and then Adam, I'll come to you.

• 1:15:29Tom Ellsworth?

  This is cataclysmic.

• 1:15:30Patrick Bet-David?

  That is cataclysmic.

• 1:15:31Tom Ellsworth?

  This is why you got the stories of them selling these channels.

• 1:15:34Patrick Bet-David?

  No question about it. But watch, this is Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly ran the number one show for 20-plus years. Stephen A. Smith, number one in ESPN, I don't know, 10, 15 years. Chris Cuomo was number one at CNN for a few years. Love or hate these three guys, they've all been number one in their companies, and they know what it is to be part of an organization that's competing in a marketplace. Watch what Bill O'Reilly said is about to happen to MSNBC and The View. Go ahead, Rob. Comcast said you two were gonna have to try to mend some, uh, cliche fences, and you two are gonna go in there and you're gonna try to tamp it down. Because Comcast

• 1:16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  knew the next day they were gonna announce that MSNBC is vapor. That is a huge media story. Why is it vapor? Just because they're spinning it off and putting them in the... They're spinning off a bunch of brands. There's no spinoff. Yeah, it is. It's a spinoff company. There's no spinoff. That... See, you buy the propaganda, Cuomo? Oh, okay. See what I mean about smart people? I'm just saying what's being reported. But what do you know? Yeah, I know, but why would you believe what's being reported? You want the real story? Here it comes. Yes, please. So they're uncoupling their word, Comcast, MSNBC from NBC News. That means MSNBC has no resources at all. None. They're not gonna be able to pay these people millions of dollars,

• 1:16:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Rachel Maddow, whatever she's making. NBC News is saying, "We don't want you around." Why? Because NBC News's numbers, uh, Lester Holt and the Today Show are catastrophe. Because half the country equates NBC News with MSNBC, and they won't watch. So NBC is desperately trying to save the mothership of information, and they have to throw MSNBC overboard. They're not putting anything into MSNBC. They wanna sell it. So where's Georgie Soros now? Georgie's buying radio stations. You can get MSNBC for nothing. They'll give it to you. They don't want any more of...

• 1:17:38Speaker 05

  This, why? Because it's hateful. Not because it's so far left. The whole NBC Comcast hierarchy is far left, but it's hateful. They hate Trump. They hate people who vote for Trump. Everybody knows that. And you know what's next?

• 1:17:55Patrick Bet-David?

  What a point.

• 1:17:57Speaker 05

  ABC News is gonna have to cut ties with The View.

• 1:18:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:18:01Speaker 05

  And you saw that today or yesterday when Sunny Hostin had to read a legal statement in the middle of a segment. The lawyers got in her, get Whoopi Goldberg's ear and it said, "We're bringing a statement in on a teleprompter." She reads it.

• 1:18:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:18:21Speaker 05

  So it is over for these far-left networks. Done, never coming back. Dracula's stake in the heart. Who benefits? News Nation may, but CNN, which is on the ropes too, will probably get some MSNBC viewers. There you go.

• 1:18:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think of that?

• 1:18:45Speaker 05

  Well, I'm certainly not gonna accuse him of not making sense.

• 1:18:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I didn't see that part. That's hilarious. I'm certainly not gonna accuse him of not making sense. That's a great shirt. What a great line.

• 1:19:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Shout out to Stephen A. Smith. By the way, how cool is it to see Stephen A. Smith and Chris Cuomo? The last time I saw them together, we were having dinner with the two of them.

• 1:19:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:12Tom Ellsworth?

  PPD, myself, Tom, I think you were out of town at that point, Vinny. But certainly, Bill O'Reilly's making a lot of sense. Just rapid fire here, real quick. Starting with The View, where we started this segment. Sunny Hostin, she should probably name, change her name to Sunny Hostage, because basically she's looking like she's reading a hostage video, not having to deal with her TDS syndrome live in effect, because her lawyers or legal representatives were like, "Yeah, you're gonna have to basically tell the truth right here. I swear that Matt Gaetz, this is what happened to him." She looked completely uncomfortable right there. So what we're about to see in all the liberal leftist media is the fallout

• 1:19:51Tom Ellsworth?

  of TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome. So when you call Trump Nazi and fascist and Hitler for years and years and years and years, and then he wins, what recourse do you then have? So who's had meetings with?

• 1:20:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump in the last week or two, Joe Biden, Mika Brzezinski, Joe Scarborough. So when you're basically saying this is Hitler and then you have a meeting with him. Seems like Hitler's getting a lot of meetings. So which one is it even when Kamala took off the, remember her like sort of concession speech that happened the next day? After calling Trump Hitler and Nazis, do you know what she said? She gets on stage, she goes, guys, everything's gonna be okay. I promise you, everything's gonna be okay. You called him Hitler. So the reality is the, the average American out there is basically saying, yeah, we're not buying any of this BS. And now that Joe Scarborough is sort of having to sort of kiss the ring of Trump. To remain relevant, last point with CNN. Do you remember when Jeff Zucker got their highest ratings?

• 1:20:51Patrick Bet-David?

  He would do things like Trump's about to take the podium. They would show the podium on air for an hour before he even took the podium. Before Trump would even speak. And give opinion while we're waiting for. While we're waiting for Trump to walk to the podium. People would be sitting there with bated breath being like, oh, he's about to come to the podium. MSNBC might be spun off and sold, CNF, what, how did they describe CNN? On their last left, on their last leg. On the last, oh, no, on the ropes. On the ropes. Well, I thought about this, Pat. I mean, if we, if we buy MSNBC, we don't have to change the, the lettering. We'll just, it'll stand for massive success, noble capitalism. We don't have to change nothing, but. I love that.

• 1:21:33Patrick Bet-David?

  I wrote that down really quick, but this is in regard to the Matt Gaetz thing, I know we want to move on. Let's just all understand, a woman told Kyle Griffin at MSNBC, the ethics committee, she told earlier this year that he had sex with a minor woman. She testified to the committee that she witnessed him having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017. But I'm like, really? So this grown woman was watching Matt Gaetz have sex with a 17 year old? And it took her seven years, Tom, to come forward with this story? All of a sudden, it reminds me of, um. Who told it, who said this? It was, um, so a woman told Kyle Griffin, uh, uh, executive producer at MSNBC, at the ethics committee earlier this year that Matt Gaetz had sex. That was that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And so, and, and.

• 1:22:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember this guys, it's believe all women unless those women vote Republican. Same thing with Bill Clinton and Juanita Broderick, Biden with Tara Reid and Brett Kavanaugh. Out of nowhere, the guy's about to be brought into the Supreme Court, then all of a sudden, Christie, Blasey Ford comes out of nowhere and is like, oh yeah, in high school in a party. And this guy, they didn't realize he was going to be a nerd and he had a calendar and blogged everything he did every single day for every summer as a kid. It's just such hypocrisy. And Tom, didn't they, they didn't go forward with the Matt Gaetz thing, right? They stopped. They didn't want to continue because there was no-

• 1:22:56Tom Ellsworth?

  No, the investigation stopped.

• 1:22:58Patrick Bet-David?

  It stopped.

• 1:22:58Tom Ellsworth?

  The Department and the DOJ, the DOJ closed it. Look, there's, there's two things here. One is talk about Matt Gaetz, but we'll close, we'll close the book on it. Even MSNBC-

• 1:23:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to, I want to play this Holly clip until we close on it. Rob, play this Holly clip.

• 1:23:10Speaker 05

  What's the word in the Senate about these confirmations?

• 1:23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, I think the word ought to be Jesse that every single one of these nominees needs to have a confirmation hearing as quickly as possible. My plan is to support all of them. And I would just say to my Senate colleagues, listen, let these guys testify. Give them a shot. I know some of these Senate, some of these Senate GOP folks are saying, oh, I've got concerns. That's what a hearing is for. Don't go out and bash these people until you've at least allowed them to make their case. And listen, I mean, I think they've got momentum. I thought the meeting today with Gates went great and it's full steam ahead.

• 1:23:44Speaker 05

  So some of these guys, even not having a hearing, maybe not even met Matt Gaetz, they're just no's?

• 1:23:52Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, I've read about my colleagues, some of them here in the Senate who say we've got deep concerns. Of course, I'm reading all of the slander and garbage in the press about Gates and others. And this is really approaching Kavanaugh proportions. They're trying to do to him what they did to Kavanaugh. And the answer to that is let the guy speak. He deserves to be able to address this himself. He deserves to be able to lay out his vision and the president's vision for the DOJ. And I look forward to that. And listen, as I said to President Trump, I'm going to help in whatever way I can to get the president the cabinet that he wants and deserves.

• 1:24:27Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. I mean, that's like, hey, if you've got something, go ahead. Let's hear what you have to say. Tom, go ahead and finish your thought. You were gonna say something.

• 1:24:33Tom Ellsworth?

  No, what I was gonna say is that, you know, and Josh Hawley was correctly pointing out all the hate and slander that's in the press. And you even had Mike Barnacle of MSNBC saying, you know what? I don't know how we make ourselves relevant again. And he believes it's technology because 40% of adults under 30 say get their news from social media over traditional sources. And what they don't get is that the trust in the media is gone. And so I don't know how we make ourselves relevant again. I think he's right. And it's, it's a, as you used to say, it's Ctrl, Alt, Delete, man. IPL time.

• 1:25:06Patrick Bet-David?

  But you know what's crazy about what's happening with Trump right now? It's actually crazy. He's winning. He's winning for sure. On all cylinders. But what was his downfall is essentially the same reason for his revival and renaissance. What do I mean? Without COVID, Trump would have probably been reelected in 2020. Would you agree with that, guys? Yep. But because of COVID and the, I guess, mishandling of COVID, nobody knew what was going on. Weird timing. That's the reason that Trump was not reelected. But because of COVID, because it had to expose everything from everyone, nobody could hide anything anymore. Everything, every objective, every policy, every situation that you basically were sort of behind closed

• 1:25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  doors, you know, the Wizard of Oz thing, it's all been exposed. So now, four years later after COVID, now this is the reality of Trump's survival. What does MLK once say? He says, "The, the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice." Short term, Trump got screwed. Yeah. But long term, this is basically cementing his legacy. Yeah, but, but in regard to this, though, the, the perfect sense that we're making, and you, I think you sent it to us in the group chat. Now, I mean, X played a huge part in it. These people are finished. It took eight years for the world to see it. And X, X played the biggest role in this. I think the biggest thing, because, Pat, we have that video, the CNN's shocking video. Remember the guy that did all the charts for

• 1:26:31Patrick Bet-David?

  all the, Rob, you have that, that clip? Pat, did you see this one? I think you sent it to me. It's where the guy that normally did all the demographic charts, and this guy right here stands next to him.

• 1:26:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Harry.

• 1:26:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is recent.

• 1:26:42Tom Ellsworth?

  This is recent. Every, every Sunday, he did the recap. It kept getting worse.

• 1:26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see it, Rob. So the reason, one of the big reasons he bought Twitter slash X is because he wanted to make it his own platform, remake it in his own image. And I think this really gets at it. Look at this. The party ID among those who regularly use X slash Twitter for news. Back in 2022, 65% of those who regularly use Twitter slash X for news were Democrats. Just 31% were Republicans. Look at where we are today. Just a completely different picture. Now it's basically split between Democrats at 48%, Republicans at 47%. And what I should note, Mr. Berman, is this now, this new overall makeup matches the overall electorate far better. And more than that, more than that, John, look at where Mr. Musk's

• 1:27:28Patrick Bet-David?

  net worth is today versus where it was just two months ago. He is the richest man in the world by far. Two months ago, look at this. His net worth was 252 billion. Today, look at where we are today. Just two months ago, he didn't have anything. By far the richest man ever to be on this planet. You know what I say all the time? 252 billion, hey, what it used to be. But I think Vinnie brings a massive point here. If not for Elon Musk, what would, where would he be right now? The Twitter files wouldn't have ever happened. Everything wouldn't be exposed. If Elon Musk didn't basically put his whole career on the line, his reputation, and basically aligned with Trump, there's a good chance that Trump would not be reelected.

• 1:28:09Tom Ellsworth?

  That 42, 44 billion dollars was the most important transaction over the last two years.

• 1:28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Exactly. It's access to information that now we all get to see. And I hope, not to break sad news, and I know we want to move on. Eva Longorio's moving out of the United States. Ellen DeGeneres, don't get sad, she's moving to England because they can't take it. And I just want to show everybody at home. Oh, that would go well. Yeah. When you have that hate, Rob, and I know you know the photos I want to show, when you have that hate in your heart, it exudes and it ruins you. I want to show you a really quick photo of Rosie O'Donnell before Trump derangement syndrome. Look at what she used to look like. That's Rosie O'Donnell. Then Trump, the hate, the Hitler, the anger. What does she look like right now? That's what happens. That's what happens when you have hate. That's not the same person. That's her. I took a screenshot.

• 1:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No, that's Rosie O'Donnell angry bitter every day and that's what it does to your soul. Have love in your heart, guys. Stop watching these evil networks because that's what's gonna happen to you.

• 1:29:08Tom Ellsworth?

  That's eight. She never was attractive. I think that was the best possible picture you've ever found. Listen, Vinnie, you've been accused of calling women pigs, slobs, dogs, fat cows.

• 1:29:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Only Rosie O'Donnell.

• 1:29:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Only Rosie O'Donnell, I'm sorry.

• 1:29:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Sorry, guys.

• 1:29:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Rosie, Rosie, Rosie.

• 1:29:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Do that picture one more time, do it one more time. Honestly, next time you do that, you have to give some kind of, don't you like one day say like viewership? Okay, guys, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.

• 1:29:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Excuse me, Vinnie. That's right. Don't bring that sloppy dog around me.

• 1:29:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Just like Sunny has to apologize, you have good. Okay, wait.

• 1:29:39Tom Ellsworth?

  The following may be disturbing.

• 1:29:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, let him do it. He knows how to do it.

• 1:29:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Today, about 30 seconds ago, I didn't warn you guys about that photo. I apologize. Our legal texted me, he said, you gotta do it right now. He's gotta do it right now. It's just not appropriate because we love our audience. Forgive us, folks.

• 1:29:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Sick puppy, Vinnie.

• 1:29:59Patrick Bet-David?

  We will keep getting better. We will keep getting better and we're committed to it.

• 1:30:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Rosie, we love you. You're a great gorgeous person.

• 1:30:05Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one. Let's go to the next one. So Elon Musk, okay, the first lady from Brazil. Pure classy, very classy first lady comes out and says the following to Elon Musk. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  That's Elon Musk.

• 1:30:43Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Lula's wife?

• 1:30:44Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the wife.

• 1:30:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Of Lula?

• 1:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. And do you know what Elon says? Did you see Elon's tweet, Rob, afterwards? Do you have it? Elon says, these guys will not have influence and leadership for another two to four years. Like, they're done.

• 1:30:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning he's like, listen, you guys are gonna be going to a whole different place. And meanwhile, Time Magazine, did he respond to you? LOL. What did he say right there? LOL, that's it. Nico, by the way, Nicola is, we had him on the podcast, stud. He's a, by the way, that guy could end up being a president of Brazil one day. Nicola's very right there. You guys are in the office? Oh, he is a frickin' stud and a half. This guy right here, yeah. So, uh, while that is going on, Time Magazine comes out with Musk. And Rob, if you want to show the Time Magazine cover for Musk, look at this. Zoom in a little bit if you could. Okay, so look at this. Electrical vehicles, checked off. Become richest man, checked off. Buy Twitter, checked off. Launch rocket, checked off. Bring rocket bags, checked off.

• 1:31:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Implant human brain chip, checked off. Get Trump elected, checked off. Work for Mar-a-Lago, checked off. Slash two trillion, fly to Mars, Citizen Musk. What's next on his to-do list? That's badass. That's fantastic.

• 1:31:52Tom Ellsworth?

  This is on the cover of Time Magazine as we speak today?

• 1:31:54Patrick Bet-David?

  That is fantastic.

• 1:31:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I think that's a very fair, reflective cover.

• 1:31:59Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what it's called? It's called Mark Benihoff wants to sell it for more, because he went from having four million subscribers to Time Magazine, to only 1.6 million, and he bought it for 180, and he's trying to recoup some of the money that he invested.

• 1:32:13Tom Ellsworth?

  So you're saying he's gotta repaint the house and put in different carpet?

• 1:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's exactly what he needs to do. That's exactly what he needs to do, because this guy is not going away. He is not gonna be going away. He's gonna be around for a while.

• 1:32:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Where do you think his, uh, net worth will be by the time Trump leaves?

• 1:32:28Patrick Bet-David?

  He said it. A trillion dollars.

• 1:32:30Tom Ellsworth?

  In how many years, Pat?

• 1:32:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, he'll be the first trillionaire in four years.

• 1:32:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Four years?

• 1:32:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I think maybe sooner.

• 1:32:35Tom Ellsworth?

  You're saying he's gonna four X, three X his wealth in the next four years?

• 1:32:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, he may be a trillionaire in a year and a half, two years. I'm just saying like latest, four years by 2020, this guy's worth a trillion.

• 1:32:46Tom Ellsworth?

  And you think that's a very good thing? A good thing? Is that a, not a great thing? Trillion dollars. I mean, you're, that's the size of GDP of Russia.

• 1:32:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you, if I'm him, I'm just telling you, if I'm him, I have a budget of a hundred million dollars every year, just on security and protection, protecting him.

• 1:33:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Hundred million.

• 1:33:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a similar to fifty to a hundred million dollars budget of a team with you, twenty-four, seven, no matter where you are, because he is enemy of the state, of the establishment state, number one is Elon Musk.

• 1:33:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:33:25Patrick Bet-David?

  There's nobody that has a bigger target on their back in the world than this guy. Nobody, that's even Trump, he's ahead of Trump officially right now, my opinion.

• 1:33:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I ask you a question? Where does that wealth come from?

• 1:33:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You're limited to one question.

• 1:33:37Tom Ellsworth?

  That's it. So, like, yeah, what's my point? What's my point? Here's my point.

• 1:33:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:33:42Tom Ellsworth?

  If he's at three hundred billion now, or is it at today, Rob, if you can fact check this real quick? Three forty, something. I don't know if that's exactly where to say, however, he's got to make seven hundred and fifty billion in the next four years? I think he can do it. Okay, that, hold on, I want, walk me through how that happens. Is that through Tesla? Is that through SpaceX? Is that through Starlink? But it's in of all of them. Adam, it's through everything. So, let's say I'm a major league baseball player, and I'm about to cross five hundred home runs. I'm gonna be in the Hall of Fame. But now my question is, where am I gonna rank in the Hall of Fame? There are athletes that care about it, and there are industrialists that used to care about where they were on the Forbes four hundred. Honestly, I think he only cares about doing new things and driving these things.

• 1:34:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I honestly don't think he worries about how it measures up on the Forbes list. I don't think Elon Musk cares a bit about it. I think being a trillionaire is just gonna happen. He thinks it's important to build SpaceX and bring the rocket back and not dump it into the ocean as junk. He thinks it's important to try to go to Mars and be an interplanetary species. He thinks it's important for the...

• 1:34:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Brain research and see if we could help people through Neuralink. He thinks it's important. He thought it was important for EVs and then he made a very capitalist decision about building a whole bunch of service stations that everybody else would have to use for those EVs to plug them in. I think, and PBD Ametris, you think? I think it just happens because he's driven and he's inventing and it just goes. I don't think like he's a guy who's reached 99 billion and wants to be 100.

• 1:35:18Patrick Bet-David?

  No.

• 1:35:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And is sinking to the scorecard.

• 1:35:20Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a vision guy.

• 1:35:20Tom Ellsworth?

  He's different.

• 1:35:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He's a vision guy, hands down, and he has a long list of enemies. Enemies that both he's not gonna let win and enemies that he just wants to troll because he can. As a part of it, that's a childlike guy. This guy's a perfect combination of childlike, visionary, brilliance, hard worker, and a wrong guy to compete against. But he's, he's very formidable and I'm excited to see what he does next. By the way, let's go to the next story here. So, next story, California. So, California is going through a minimum wage hike. They want to raise the minimum wage, which by the way, when you think about, I'm going through this and I'm reading this article and I'm being reminded what the minimum wage is in California for different kind of jobs and I'm absolutely blown away.

• 1:36:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me just read it to you.

• 1:36:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 1:36:07Patrick Bet-David?

  To just kind of give you a, an idea of what this says. So, California turns on minimum wage increase, rejected Proposition 32, which sought to raise the statewide minimum wage to $18 an hour, making the first state to turn down a minimum wage increase at the ballot in nearly 30 years. Okay, and this is California. Joe Conde sealed California Restaurant Association called the result historic, arguing it reflected voters frustration with policies that makes life more expensive for everyone. By the way, it doesn't show it here. Rob, can you pull up the minimum wage numbers for fast food? You know what minimum wage is right now? If you work at McDonald's, you were 17-year-old kid.

• 1:36:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Cali?

• 1:36:43Patrick Bet-David?

  California, 20 bucks an hour.

• 1:36:44Tom Ellsworth?

  20 bucks. Oh, that's right. That thing that, that...

• 1:36:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Minimum wage is 20 bucks an hour. You know what it is if you're working in a hospital? I think it's some kind of a hospital, I think it was 25 bucks an hour. They wanted, they're sitting there realizing, "Bro, you just raised minimum wage to 20 bucks, Big Mac is expensive, I can't afford it anymore." They're doing this while another story comes out. Rob, if you want to play the clip on this, because I know you got it, it's a BBC clip. Los Angeles City and schools make themselves migrant sanctuaries. Play this clip.

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• 1:38:22Speaker 04

  To all of the future federal leaders that are going to take over very soon, I tell them this, that with this action today, what the LA City Council is trying to say is that we're not going to allow for the actions that once upon a time took place in 1954 with Operation, I don't choose to use the second word, or what happened in the 1970s when they did massive deportations and broke families. Los Angeles is not going to let that happen.

• 1:38:52Speaker 05

  Given the reelection of Donald Trump and the consistent hate speech towards undocumented people and mixed status families, I can't think of a more pressing... He's reading it. Yeah, he's reading it. By the way, if you guys are so right in what you're talking about, make him pause it, Rob. Why are people leaving your state? Why are people leaving your wonderful city? People don't agree with you, guys. Even with your wonderful...

• 1:39:14Patrick Bet-David?

  glasses that you have on to make you seem like you went to some Ivy League school whatever those glasses she's wearing good for you what I look at those glasses she's like a cat lady type of glasses you know what I'm saying she's a lot of fun you go to lens shafters lens crafters and you say can I get because I have the seal of lens shafters seal but I'm talking like you go to lens crafters and you ask him do you have the cat lady glasses that's this one you just say can I get the cat lady glasses while this is going on you know what Trump says he's gonna be doing let me tell you what Trump's gonna be doing Trump's confirming that he's gonna use military to assist in mass deportation and Rob play a couple of these clips for people to see and finish it with Tom Homan if you can

• 1:39:55Patrick Bet-David?

  and for the folks that are open to the idea of being you know maybe converted or baptized into some common sense listen to these folks and say make I mean you have logic if you if you can reason you tell me if any of this stuff makes sense go ahead Rob here's Pritzker billionaire or Illinois governor go ahead

• 1:40:12Speaker 05

  are deeply concerned about you know the President of the United States calling out military inside the United States um where people are peaceful even if there may be people who are undocumented but the idea of calling out you know the army into the domestic confines of the United States uh is seems uncalled for and may in fact be unconstitutional

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  voters have spoken and they disagree with you

• 1:40:40Speaker 05

  honestly he says a lot of things you never know what he's telling the truth about so we'll we'll have to see

• 1:40:47Patrick Bet-David?

  is that a Wendy's flag next to the American flag what's the next one you got Rob give me a good one who is this this is Boston Mayor Michelle Wu okay go for it what will Boston's response be if these mass deportations take place

• 1:40:58Speaker 04

  yeah look elections have consequences and the federal government is responsible for a certain set of actions and cities no Individual city can reverse or override some parts of that. But what we can do is make sure that we are doing our part to protect our residents in every possible way, that we are not cooperating with those efforts that actually threaten the safety of everyone by causing widespread fear and, and having large-scale economic impact.

• 1:41:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Threatening the safety of who? So, look into that phrase. Threatening the safety of who? U.S. citizen or illegal immigrants? Who is it threatening the safety of? Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:41:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Actually, neither.

• 1:41:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. Go ahead.

• 1:41:37Speaker 05

  Defending our residents every possible way. Well, she's not very smart, I'll give her that. Because I just, what I just said is President Trump's going to prioritize public safety threats. What mayor or governor doesn't want public safety threats out of their communities? I mean, that's your number one responsibility is to protect your communities. And that's exactly what we're going to do. So, she helps us, she gets the hell out of the way, because we're going to do it. And look, there's a clear line here, and they can't cross a clear line. I would suggest she read Title 8, United States Code 1324 triple I. That says, you know, you can't harbor concealed illegal immigrants from federal law enforcement. So, I hope she don't cross that line. They can not cooperate, but there are certain laws in place that they can't cross, and I hope she doesn't cross it. But I-

• 1:42:21Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. Tom, thoughts on this?

• 1:42:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, yeah, it's, it's funny. They're all, they're all trying to throw the peanut butter, see, see what's going to stick. And it's not going to stick. The American people voted, and immigration was the number one or number two issue for voters by intensity. The economy was pretty much number one across the board. Immigration was number two. And then it dropped down. We're talking about intensity of the voter. How intense did they feel about it? And the voters have spoken. And now these bureaucrats going to the microphone and making their statements and saying, well, we're not going to cooperate, we're not going to do this. Your voters, your citizens said, I want it to be safe.

• 1:43:04Tom Ellsworth?

  And there are people that came here that are doing things that, Lake and Riley was killed by one of them. So, how you say, we're not going to cooperate, who are you protecting? You're protecting a bunch of people that have arrived here without permission versus protecting the citizens that are there paying the property tax on the House they're trying to protect? Come on. I mean, J.B. Pritzker, he so completely misses the point. And it's also equally clear that he doesn't miss many meals. You have an idea about the future that is somewhere, you know, off on Mars. They don't get it. They're going back to the same things they were doing during the election, PBD. They're singing the same song that they did and they lost the election.

• 1:43:48Tom Ellsworth?

  The American people voted. You are welcome to come here. The Statue of Liberty, give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. We all come from somewhere, but we come from somewhere legally. We assimilate through legal immigration and we become part of the great America. But when you come here en masse and you're not documented and you happen to not be good people from other places, we will take action to protect the citizens and the taxpayers and the voters that just determined in this election what they wanted.

• 1:44:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't Michelle Wu, the Boston mayor that sent out that memo for the holidays and she only wanted a party for, she was being, accused of being racist?

• 1:44:32Tom Ellsworth?

  No white people allowed.

• 1:44:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She's like, no white people to come. So she can, she can kiss my you-know-what, that's number one.

• 1:44:37Tom Ellsworth?

  She's a racist. That was a rape by definition.

• 1:44:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, she's racist.

• 1:44:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Mayor Wu committed an act of racism on the Boston budget by sending out a city sanctioned There it is. Invitation. She did it. She was using Boston taxpayer money to, to create a party that was racist.

• 1:44:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yup.

• 1:45:00Tom Ellsworth?

  And you say, well, if it's against white people, it's not racist. Look, it's been said by people of all colors. Reverse racism is racism. Any racism is racism and she is a racist.

• 1:45:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Tom, bingo. But, but, but anybody that's illegal coming in, come on in. And just really quick, I know you mentioned the Lake and Riley pad and I know that's a story that we'll get to, but let's just, a couple of things that happened. Uh, today, the FBI and DOJ refused to testify in front of Congress on threats of homeland security because of these open border policies, number one. And also, and I'm not praising this, I'm not trying to be cool about it, Rob could look it up, all these illegals going to all these sanctuary cities. Today, Pat, Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's assistant. Was robbed, attacked by an illegal immigrant with five arrests since 2023. He's a Venezuelan Tren del Agua member and oh taxpayers, our taxpayers, your taxpayers, paid for his hotel. So that's without it starting to hit home and they can't deny.

• 1:45:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Or he rested up so he could commit the crime.

• 1:45:56Patrick Bet-David?

  So you commit the crime and he was looking at the camera and he was like yelling and talking all that crap. And that's what's up. And I'll talk about the Lake and Riley thing. Rob, play, play that clip, the last clip with, you know, this guy to me is a star. He's a superstar, ability to reason, very, very calm, but a fighter. Play this clip on CNN. Go ahead. Promise you with every fiber of my being, because I'll probably be one of those people, that if anybody comes for these people and tries to drag them out by force, there will be protests of people like me, American citizens, who are going to stand there and do everything possible to prevent these women and children, which is all who these people are.

• 1:46:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:46:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop. How do you know who this is?

• 1:46:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Stop, stop, stop. I'm sorry. I live next to these people. I can tell you they are women and they are children. Are there terrorists among them? I don't know, but I can tell you that there are. But I can tell you, but let me tell. Okay. But what I'm telling you right now, practically speaking, is that there will be people, American citizens, who will prevent these little kids who are being dragged out of these shelters. There are. And what's going to happen to these people? What is going to happen to the military when the military opens fire on us? Opens fire. Shut up.

• 1:47:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Like opens fire. You see the, and they don't learn their lesson. Who's operating fire? These people, you guys understand the word illegal? You, the first thing that you've done when you've touched down on American soil, you've already broken the law. They have to get the hell out. We have, and if we have to use military soldiers, because the, the, the reserves, what are they doing? The National Guard? They're not actively in war. We have to deploy them. We have to shut down the border and get everybody out because that 15, 20 million, they're going to stay, they're going to have kids, they're, they're getting flown into all these swing states and battleground states. It's actively, we know what they're doing. You think they care about these people? They know.

• 1:47:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Let's boil it down even more. When you don't have a point, or your. Point is without foundation. You have to go to fake fear. And where did she go? She didn't have a point. The other people are starting to chime in, not just Scott. The other guy too, the buzz cut that was on the right.

• 1:48:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Start to do that. Where does she go? Fake fear. Well, when they start opening fire in the American people. This is not Kent State. My gosh. You create fake fear. That's what it is. That's the take, by the way, and then you name call. There's the technique. So when you hear that, turn it off because now you know that they've lost the argument.

• 1:48:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's why they're up against the ropes with their network.

• 1:48:20Tom Ellsworth?

  So you know how they're always talking about the coastal elites, the coastal elites and basically fly over country? You know, so I'm sure, Rob, I don't know if you can find a map of basically the final electoral college votes. I mean, we understand what happened here. I mean, the far left, literally on the map goes blue. And then the far right on this example right here also goes blue here. Isn't it ironic? That the three people that we showed speaking, number one was the people in LA.

• 1:48:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:48:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Number two was New York, right?

• 1:48:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep, Boston.

• 1:48:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Boston, apologies, Boston. Number three was Illinois, the basically the one liberal Midwest city right there, unless you want to count Minnesota, which is basically even at this point. But you know what it reminds me of is you ever see these stories where there's a burglar and there's a breaking and entry? And the person whose home it is shoots the burglar, but then somehow, some way they get sued or they go to jail for shooting the burglar that went in their house? And it's like, well, he's not a burglar. Technically, he was a unauthorized recipient of unlocked door policies. It's like, the guy was breaking and entering, trying to rob, steal and possibly do worse to my family. But even Mayor Eric Adams, I don't know what happened there, right?

• 1:49:37Tom Ellsworth?

  I know he likes Turkey. Shout out to Thanksgiving. But isn't it ironic that once he started telling illegal migrants, listen, don't come to New York City. It's the most expensive city in the country. Like, we can't afford you. All of a sudden, these legal ramifications started popping up right here.

• 1:49:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Weird.

• 1:49:53Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's

• 1:49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  He broke ranks and they went after him.

• 1:49:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So what I would tell the illegal migrants that are here is go to LA. Enjoy LA. Stay in LA. Be there. Enjoy California. Stay in California. The, the reality

• 1:50:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember this exchange that Tom Homan had with AOC, this is very, very powerful. And she was lost for words. She goes, so you're just recommending the separation of families. Children separated from their parents. He goes, yeah, well, what do you think happens when a actual citizen of the United States gets arrested? The parent goes to jail and they're separated from their kid. It's no difference. And she's like, wow, I, next question. Yeah. There's no answer to that. The reality is when you break the law, you're gonna be separated from your children. And by the way, I don't think these guys gonna stop. I think Trump's gonna use military and I think that's gonna be mayhem. I think they're gonna go try to protest. But I think this time around, more people are with Trump than they were in 2016. So there's gonna be less,

• 1:50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  fewer games played. I'm convinced it's gonna be fewer games played because they're looking like morons. Like MSNBC can't get up there and say, hey, look what they're doing. They're separating. They're like, dude, I want the place to be safe. Be quiet. Get out of business. And by the way, check this out. You know what I'm convinced on? I'm convinced even if Soros bought MSNBC, nothing would happen. Because I think the American people are like done. I think American people are like, look, man, we saw what you just did. Most of them who are not gonna forget with all the games that was played. But let me go to the next thing here. A quick fun entertainment, entertaining moment for you. Jenkins on there, talking to famous Lickman who has gotten most of the elections right.

• 1:51:36Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is purely for entertainment purposes. Look how brilliant Pierce is. He has Jenk there, Lickman. Who's that girl in the middle? And Juan Williams. What's her name? Harry. And you got Juan Williams. By the way, in the younger TikTok community, he's actually very influential to the Democrats on the left, just so you know that. But watch us clip here. Watch us clip here. Watch us clip here. I think he's a guy. Is he, Rob? Is he a guy or is he? That's not a guy. No, I think his, his name is Harry. In the middle? That's a guy? The guy on the two right? Not the black guy on the right. That's Juan Williams, right?

• 1:52:10Tom Ellsworth?

  This guy right here, that's Harry.

• 1:52:10Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a girl!

• 1:52:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And he'll be joining us on the podcast in December.

• 1:52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't say that to his face. Go ahead, Rob. Play the clip. Sorry, I've never seen him. Go ahead, play the clip. Don't blame the voters. I think, look, we could get into this discussion, but Juan, I think you're blaming the voters. I think that's a terrible idea. And look, I- Debated Professor Lichtman before. I told him his theories about the keys were absurd. I was right, he was wrong. I said he'd lose his keys.

• 1:52:36Speaker 05

  No, you were not right and I was not wrong. And that's a cheap shot and I won't stand for it.

• 1:52:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, who won, brother?

• 1:52:41Speaker 05

  You should not be taking cheap shots at me.

• 1:52:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Who won? You live in a total world of denial.

• 1:52:47Speaker 05

  I read your own followers' comments and they all trashed you, every one of them, and supported me.

• 1:52:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, right, right. Yeah, come find out again.

• 1:52:57Speaker 05

  Make whatever point you want, don't make it personal.

• 1:53:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't know anything. You don't know anything.

• 1:53:03Speaker 05

  You attacked me personally.

• 1:53:04Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so deluded.

• 1:53:06Speaker 05

  I've only been a professor for 51 years, published 13 books. How many books have you published? No, because you're personally attacking me again. Say whatever you want, but I'm not gonna stand for personal attacks.

• 1:53:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Brother, you got it wrong.

• 1:53:19Speaker 05

  Say whatever you want.

• 1:53:21Patrick Bet-David?

  You were preposterously and stupidly wrong. So, okay, all right, can I just finish a goddamn thought ever on this show?

• 1:53:27Speaker 05

  No, not if you're personally attacking me. I admit that I was wrong. I don't need you to call me stupid.

• 1:53:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. Can I just say it's great to see you Democrats all getting along together.

• 1:53:38Patrick Bet-David?

  It's lovely to see your posts of like harmony as you're coming together again. Hey, Alan, shh.

• 1:53:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, Alan, you deserve a tall glass of shut up juice. So can you just shut up for a second? And let someone who knows what they're doing. Shut the hell up.

• 1:53:53Speaker 05

  Make any point you want. I will not sit here and stand for personal attacks, for blasphemy against me.

• 1:54:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Now, listen, there is, literally, there's nothing to ask you guys. What do you think? I just wanted to have some fun with that because every once in a while, Pierce gets a lot of these good, you know, the things that he does. I just love, I think Pierce has been great the last couple of years. And I think that guy's gonna get to 10 million subs in no time. And someone's gonna have to sign him. I think he's doing a phenomenal, phenomenal job. Love him or hate him, he knows how to put fights together. And he has you on, you were on last week and you guys had a good session as well. So, yeah, all right, so let's go to the next one here and wrap up. Guys, I'm not trying to sell you any cars, but you know, this commercial may make you return your car if you own one of these. Here's Jaguar, okay?

• 1:54:41Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Jaguar's attempt of trying to do the Apple's commercial in 1984, which I'll show it to you. Except it's got a little twist to it. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

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• 1:56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  What the f**k was that? Time out. That's a jo- is this a parody? No, no. That's the Jack. By the way- I didn't see the car! Go to their Twitter account. No. They post this. You know what Elon asks? What do you sell? Elon asks, what do you sell? Oh. They said, we sell cars. Would you like to come and check one of them out? Can you see if the comments there, what is it? Do you sell cars? They said, yes. We'd love to show you. Join us for a cuppa in Miami on December 2nd. We should go. In almost regards. Oh. That's what this, like- For a cuppa? What does that mean? By the way, now, Rob, can you play the 1984 Apple commercial? And then, look, when they say "copy nothing," you copied Apple. Go to 1984 Apple commercial.

• 1:57:04Patrick Bet-David?

  If you have it, it should pop up right off the bat. Apple Jackson. Type in "commercial." Right there, if you go to, I think it's that one. Yeah, watch this. This is Apple's commercial.

• 1:57:14Tom Ellsworth?

  No, that's a Fortnite.

• 1:57:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, Rob, go back and just type in "commercial" if you can. Just type in "commercial," and it'll come up. And it should be, well, then, you have to go to YouTube. Go to YouTube to find it, because I'll try to find it on YouTube and send it to you. If you go to YouTube, type it up, it'll come up instantly. What a weird commercial. But watch, when you see "Apple's," you'll see this similarity. See if one, that's the one right there, third one. Watch this, folks. Go ahead, watch this.

• 1:58:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So, this is Apple's commercial. They're taking shots at IBM.

• 1:58:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Meaning IBM has a bunch of robots.

• 1:58:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's the book, right? The book 1984. Watch the line.

• 1:58:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch. In 1984.

• 1:58:30Speaker 05

  January 24, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984.

• 1:58:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Now, I'm interested in that.

• 1:58:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Right. So, the point is Jaguar tried to duplicate that, except the LGBTQ version of it.

• 1:58:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Assuming like, think about the profile. Rob, can you go up there? I'm actually curious because they're not dummies. Go to Google and type in, what is the profile of a Jaguar driver?

• 1:58:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, like who is? When you think about a Jaguar driver, what do you, okay? Is often described as a successful, sophisticated individual with a taste of luxury, value, and performance and style. Typically well educated and likely to be professional position with a higher income, seeking a car that reflects their status and appreciation for refined driving dynamics, essentially someone who appreciates both the power and elegance of the Jaguar brand. Do you think that commercial did a good job speaking to these guys?

• 1:59:24Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not even close.

• 1:59:25Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the question.

• 1:59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Not even close.

• 1:59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I mean, if I'm that guy, I'm like, wait, do you realize right now, watch, let me tell you what happens. If right now, say we work together, we're a broker at Goldman.

• 1:59:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:35Patrick Bet-David?

  We're working at JP Morgan Chase. We're working at any place that we're in sales, executives, whatever we're doing. I pull up, 7:30, I see you pull up. You, I pull up in a Tesla, whatever. You pull up in a Jaguar. After I saw the commercial yesterday, I'm like, Adam, when are you returning that car, bro? You sure you want to drive a Jaguar? And the look on your face is like, yeah, bro. I mean, listen, what was that? That's not me. They did a person, my uncle always bought a Jaguar.

• 2:00:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:00:02Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who he was? He was a badass businessman. He is sitting there in his grave saying, what the hell happened to the old Jaguar brand? Jag, isn't Jaguar, who do you think about when you think about Jaguar? Actors? What movies was Jaguar in? By the way, I think one of the most expensive cars, like old cars to buy, is a Jaguar. Tom, what do you think about this?

• 2:00:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Jaguar has come and gone for me. They're currently part of Land Rover. They had a chapter, they were actually owned by Ford. They had a chapter they were owned by, I think it was Tata. You know, and once upon a time, there was this essence of Jaguar, like you would see Sean Connery, XJ, and the ancient and everything about it. It was a beautiful car. It was art. You know, it was never known as being terribly reliable. It never really became a supercar. It never got to that level. And then it got passed around. The brand got, again, bought by Ford, bought by Tata. And now it's Like, I don't know what it stands for. And with this commercial, I don't understand the positioning. I know they're part of Land Rover, but that's all I know. And it's, I don't understand this positioning.

• 2:01:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't understand where they fit between Mercedes and BMW and, you know, and McLaren in terms of, you know, higher end cars. I don't understand. I don't know where they fit. And it's confusing to me. So that's what I would say. It's confusing. So what you have is a lot of money, corporate marketers that went out and got an ad agency, and they all sat in a room together and they talked themselves into believing that this is where they're taking the brand. And you know what? I don't know. There used to be a joke. I mean, there used to be this joke about Jaguar. You know why Jaguar never made a personal computer? After five hours, after five years of research, they couldn't figure out a way to make it leak oil. Because Jaguars were known for leaking oil and being terribly like semi-reliable, but really-

• 2:01:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Even with that, check this out, Tom. Rob, pull up the link I just sent you. What is the most expensive Jaguar ever sold? You ready? Watch this here. Watch this here. Zoom in, Rob, if you could, and close that.

• 2:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. Okay, zoom in at the top. This is the most expensive Jaguar ever sold at an auction. Look how sick that looks. What do you think it's sold for? Don't go down. What do you think it's sold for? Three million. Okay, go lower. Go lower. No, no, say right up top. Uh, uh, okay. One of only four asked, no, go up top. Is that what it says?

• 2:02:28Tom Ellsworth?

  What?

• 2:02:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little lower to see where it says the Jaguar. Jaguar models have grown, uh, just over 200. And a couple of Jaguar models have cracked 10 million barrier. 1957 K, uh, X K S S went for over 13.2 million last year. Watch this, Vinny. Look at that. And the most expensive Jaguar ever, 1955 D-Type, sold for $22 million. In 2016, eight years ago. It's probably a 30 to 40 million dollar car, car today in auction. Think about that, right? And they produce a commercial like that? Seriously? It's embarrassing.

• 2:03:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know what they're all about. I don't know. So, cause I tried looking it up, like who's in charge of-

• 2:03:09Patrick Bet-David?

  There. So I guess Spark 44 is an agency management serving as an in-house creative agency for Land Rover 2021 and Jaguar. But I think Accenture, A C C N T U R E, I think that like, that's the company that would be like, who sits in a meeting? And goes, you know what? And like, you know what that means? The head, the CEO of Jaguar, correct?

• 2:03:30Tom Ellsworth?

  No, there's a, there's a corporate joke around corporate marketing and it goes like this. When it comes to corporate marketing, nobody is as dumb as all of us. Meaning that when you get us all collective in a room and you get us all thinking about it and you get us all doing this. We can talk, as they say, to, to err as human, but to really F up, you need a committee. Right? And that's, that's what you see here. I think this is a gross failure of marketing leadership. For a brand that's trying to find its future. That's my, that's my close. P B D, this is going to be shocking, but one of the last cars I've ever had and owned was a Jaguar. Really? This was.

• 2:04:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, that makes sense.

• 2:04:13Patrick Bet-David?

  After seeing that commercial?

• 2:04:14Tom Ellsworth?

  No, this was before I transitioned to a man. We all know that. We all know what happened right there. But it was one of, Rob, I sent you a picture of what it looked like. It was one of those old school, like white and it had a beige.

• 2:04:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Convertible top down. It was kind of like this.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You own one of those?

• 2:04:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So it was Adrian's car and then we swapped cars when he moved to become a correspondent in Lebanon. And by the way, you put the top down on that? Oh, dude. That was a cool car. That was a gangster ass car. I remember those cars. It was gangster. And you know, Pat, you're always talking about reinventing yourself, reinventing yourself. You certainly did.

• 2:04:51Patrick Bet-David?

  There's no way you bought a car.

• 2:04:53Tom Ellsworth?

  No, well, I didn't say buy the car. I said had the car. Relax.

• 2:04:58Tom Ellsworth?

  This was, this was in 2004. This was 20 years ago. But you're talking about reinventing yourself. Jaguar is trying to reinvent themselves. They're calling it basically Bud Light 2.0.

• 2:05:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:07Tom Ellsworth?

  What happened to the CMO of Bud Light? What after the, that whole debacle?

• 2:05:12Patrick Bet-David?

  What happened to the VP?

• 2:05:13Tom Ellsworth?

  VP of Marketing. VP of Marketing, what it was.

• 2:05:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The rainbow flag behind.

• 2:05:16Tom Ellsworth?

  So they're, they went woke, now they're gonna go broke and this is, it's funny, it's, it's almost like they didn't see anything that happened to Bud Light. It's almost like, oh yeah, you think Bud Light did a good job? Hold my beer Jaguar, bingo.

• 2:05:33Patrick Bet-David?

  And but here's the thing, I don't like, I still don't know, what does the car look like? It's the 2024, I'm, I'm, I'm 2025. Can we see the car at least put it on a T-shirt? Like, I wanna know what, what consumer right now is like.

• 2:05:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, maybe their, maybe their position is, maybe their position is, they're just gonna come out with a woke mobile.

• 2:05:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't care what position you like. Tom, you in this bent over position. When it comes onto business, my only interest is, why would you make a ad like this? I don't need to know your position, why would you make an ad like this for a car? Whatever it might be, on your back. I'm not, that's not in my business, they said, don't ask, don't tell. Don't ask. I'm, I'm looking at some of these cars, you just.

• 2:06:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Some of have some of the directions we go to. Completely throws me off with these stories, but anyways. Yeah, so, but, but the question I was gonna ask was this, Tom, you're pretty good with this game. Vinny, you're pretty good with this game. All right, be honest, folks, if you're watching this. What can you see Adam driving? You know how I look at certain people and say, you look, you'd look good in an XYZ car? What would Adam look good in? Think, like, I'm thinking maybe a Mini Cooper, like from Italian job. Yeah, yeah. What would Adam look good in?

• 2:06:44Tom Ellsworth?

  1980 Volkswagen Rabbit convertible.

• 2:06:47Patrick Bet-David?

  That's pretty high end.

• 2:06:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember those?

• 2:06:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, of course I do. What do you think Adam would look good in? Like a lime green Bug Beetle? You know, the, the newer, the ones that. Rob thinks Subaru. Rob went to straight to Subaru.

• 2:06:57Tom Ellsworth?

  No, he's not a Subaru.

• 2:06:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Gay friendly cars is Subaru number one. Uh oh, Rob went there, but no, but I, I'm actually being serious, cuz I can tell you what I can see him in. What do you see him in? What can you see Adam, he pulls up.

• 2:07:09Tom Ellsworth?

  What you got for me?

• 2:07:09Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm in the marketplace. Car. I, well, cuz my, at my, cuz I'm thinking Miami water kinda, I think like a nice Range Rover for, like the new one. Like a sport, something nice, something chill. No, not, not Miami, meaning when it rains, it's gonna be, it's gonna be flooded. What do you see Adam in, car wise?

• 2:07:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I see him in the, um. BMW i3 Electric.

• 2:07:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Ooh.

• 2:07:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Cause it's very, very cosmopolitan, very Miami.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you, what are you thinking? To be honest with you, this is gonna sound weird, but I actually see Adam in like an older, convertible classy car. James Bond type car. I just see him in a, in a, in a, in a older car that pulls up, you know, it's kinda weird, Tom, that recommendation. It's a weird one.

• 2:07:55Tom Ellsworth?

  I know, that's kinda Miami, that's Miami.

• 2:07:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I see Adam driving a. Not Miami. I see Adam driving one of those older, you know, you know, Chevrolet convertible, but an older model, not a new. Really? I see something like that, Corvette convertible, anyways.

• 2:08:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Like a classic vintage top down.

• 2:08:13Patrick Bet-David?

  67 Impala convertible.

• 2:08:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Big backseat, you know what I'm talking about?

• 2:08:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Last story, last story with the few minutes that we have here left. Okay. Vinny, Lakin Riley's killer sentenced to life in prison after heart wrenching plea from her family. Rob, if you can please play this clip. Dude. With what this looks like. I mean, you, you watch this, this is painful. Go ahead, Rob.

• 2:08:37Speaker 05

  I'm so proud of Lakin and the beautiful person she was. And while I can stand here and try to tell the world the things that made her such a wonderful person, as well as the many things we have all been robbed and deprived of. I think one of her last journal entries dated 12/17/23 says it best. So here we go. To my future husband. As silly as I feel writing this, my old small group leader once recommended it, so here I am.

• 2:09:20Speaker 05

  My future husband, I want you to know that I'm thinking about you.

• 2:09:26Speaker 05

  I'm working every day to become the best wife I can be.

• 2:09:34Speaker 05

  I'm working through my current relationships.

• 2:09:36Patrick Bet-David?

  The killer is sitting right there. With the checkered.

• 2:09:39Speaker 05

  And our kids are one day.

• 2:09:40Patrick Bet-David?

  And the checkered shirt there. Yep.

• 2:09:42Speaker 05

  I'm focusing on God and what he defines as a faithful Christian life and so that I can best embody those characteristics.

• 2:09:52Speaker 05

  I pray that you know that it is with my full faith and trust in God that I know this relationship has been handcrafted by him. I pray that we continue to glorify the Lord, prioritize him in every aspect of our lives and raise our family, our future family to be God fearing Christians as well. I pray God is the center of our relationship as it is a gift from him. I thank him for you before I even know you.

• 2:10:22Speaker 05

  And can't wait to love you in the best way I know how for the rest of our lives.

• 2:10:31Speaker 05

  I pray you know and feel the importance of my love and hopes for our relationship. No matter what challenges we face, I pray that our trust in God and love for one another overrules the obstacle.

• 2:10:45Speaker 05

  May our relationship last forever. Your future wife, Lakin.

• 2:10:54Speaker 05

  That, your honor, was our beautiful Lakin.

• 2:10:58Speaker 05

  That, your honor, is just a glimpse of what was tragically and brutally taken from her and us that day.

• 2:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, man, that's, uh, first of all, damn, could you go to Tom first? I don't even think I could talk right now. Tom, could you just, like, could you just give her a shout out, Tom, for fighting for seventeen minutes from this guy?

• 2:11:21Tom Ellsworth?

  She fought like any of us would fight and

• 2:11:26Tom Ellsworth?

  the horror of what she went through has been made clear to us because of the technology, what we have on the phone, and it just underlines the horrors that we're capable of. And this guy came here without inspection, and this is what you get. If you don't check at the door, this is what you can get, and this is what you lose. You lose what is terribly precious in the face of political expediency, because you want anyone to walk in unchecked for political expediency. But this is what you get. This is a conquest that is there.

• 2:12:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And this consequence lies at the feet of those who defend unchecked, unbridled immigration. We are all here from somewhere else, but we checked at the door. And those that weren't checked, and the filter of justice didn't properly protect our communities, our people from this, this is what we get. And that's the pain we inflict on people there. Right there, we are all Lakens' parents. We are all feeling that. We are all listening to that. And I believe that the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ is on that guy, because I don't know if I would have been able to read it that way

• 2:12:49Tom Ellsworth?

  with that grace and dignity that he was only nine feet away from my daughter's killer. And I admire him. My prayers go to him for his healing. But this is what you get. In the name of political expediency, this is the consequence. This is when the human consequence becomes real, when it's no longer words on news shows debating. This is when the consequence becomes human and permanent. And it sits at the feet of those that want unchecked immigration versus orderly immigration, where people can experience the blessing and the joy that is in the United States of America. But you don't check it at the door, and you just let the filter come in. This is the consequence, and this is what we want to protect our citizens from.

• 2:13:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm disgusted by what led up to this, but I admire that father is able to stand there with that grace, but I am absolutely horrified by what's happened. And you see the killer there, sitting there, I'm sure he's probably shackled, but he's sitting there with nary a tear and just sitting there staring at the father. There's, his heart is so dark.

• 2:13:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This is actually a clip that, Rob, if you want to play the other clip.

• 2:13:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He's so dark.

• 2:13:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll just send it to you. This is a clip that's being shown, and I want to go to Tom Homan, because the most incredible thing here is when we're talking about, you know, we're fighting for women, we're fighting to protect women, we're fighting to protect women. Here's Riley Gaines's tweet from a few days ago, and she talks about Lakin fought for her life for 18 minutes. "Don't you dare tell me I didn't vote to protect women." Play this clip, Rob, and watch his reaction.

• 2:14:27Speaker 06

  22nd, Jose Abara put on a black hat, a hoodie-style jacket, and some black kitchen-style disposable gloves, and he went hunting for females on the University of Georgia's campus. And in his hunt, he encountered 22-year-old Lakin Riley on her morning jog. And when Lakin Riley refused to be his rape victim, he bashed her skull in with a rock repeatedly.

• 2:15:12Speaker 06

  That is what this case is all about.

• 2:15:18Speaker 06

  The evidence will show that Lakin fought. She fought for her life. She fought for her dignity. And in that fight, she caused this defendant to leave forensic evidence behind. She also marked her killer for the entire world to see. The forensic evidence that he left behind in this fight is his DNA, and only his DNA, and Lakin's, underneath Lakin's right fingernails.

• 2:16:03Speaker 06

  He also left behind, in a struggle with her over her phone, because the court will hear that she called 911, he left behind his left thumbprint on her iPhone, which was found not far from her body at the crime scene. And it is that forensic evidence alone that would give you enough evidence to find him guilty as charged on the counts in this indictment. The evidence in this case will come in basically three forms. There will be forensic evidence, there will be digital evidence, and there will be video evidence.

• 2:16:42Speaker 06

  And all three forms of those evidence will point to one person, Jose Abara, as the killer of Lakin Riley.

• 2:16:51Speaker 00

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• 2:17:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead Benny.

• 2:17:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Cold as ice.

• 2:17:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So, um... By the way, when you tell me, when that lady earlier on CNN is like, "I live in those neighborhoods, it's mothers and their children. If you decide to mass deport people like me, we'll be out there protesting." Are you gonna protest against this? This guy's a guy here from Venezuela. He's a gangster, from a Venezuelan gang. That, you know, when we talk about Mara Sabatru, MS-13, they're like, "That's nothing compared to what some of these guys from this Venezuelan gang does." Okay? What are you gonna do with that? Are you gonna protest on behalf of her? Are you gonna go out there and say anything about it? You, you were claiming, the lady earlier that says if you go out there, you know who I'm talking about, Rob? You played a clip, and by the way, this is what Tom Homan had to say about this, Rob, and I think in this clip, he does talk about the Lake and Riley case. Go ahead and play this clip, go for it.

• 2:18:10Speaker 06

  You know, Laura, a lot of people ask me, why I get so emotional when I do Fox News, and why I get, why I scream at members of Congress? Cause I've seen so much tragedy, I've talked to hundreds of angels and moms and dads who buried their children because they're killed by illegal aliens. This is the latest. You know, I've talked to little girls as young as nine years old that were raped multiple times by members of cartel. When you look in her eyes and everything innocent and pure has been ripped from her soul, and her life will never be the same. I mean, it's just, I'm tired of it. And this, and the government failed the Lake and Riley family. Not only, if President Trump was president, he'd be sitting in Mexico in the Remain in Mexico program. And if he did get to New York, and he was arrested for injury to a child in New York,

• 2:18:55Speaker 06

  ICE would be able to arrest him because the priorities under Trump, where if you're in the country illegally, you're a target. But because Texan Marocas put the priorities so low, even the injury to the child didn't meet the standards, so ICE could even place a detainer on him. So this is purely, it could have been prevented, this young lady's dead, and I want every mayor, every governor of a sanctuary jurisdiction to listen to that tape. Listen to this young girl fight for her life, fight for her breath, trying to survive, terrified. Think of the, I want you to understand what she went through. Like the nine-year-old boy, the five-year-old boy in the back of the tractor trailer that I held, I found him dead, that baked to death. I thought about what the last hour of his life was like. You need to listen to this tape.

• 2:19:38Speaker 06

  And for those governors and mayors who are saying they're gonna stop Tom Homan, they're gonna stop President Trump, shame on you. Your responsibility is to protect your communities, and that's what we wanna do, is protect your communities.

• 2:19:48Patrick Bet-David?

  That's why many millions are happy he got that job. Probably, probably besides, you know, Matt Gaetz and them, I think he is absolutely the best one. Cause now think about it now, for the, this evil rapist murderer, gang member, piece of, you know, why do we want to say his name? He's going to stay alive for the rest of his life and our tax dollars are going to pay to keep this guy alive. And just to bring it all the way back to the beginning, why is he here? Why is that guy in this country? He came into Texas because he knew it was wide open, went to Texas, got a ride to New York, and then in New York, got a free humanitarian flight to Georgia. Why? Swing state, battle state, all that shit.

• 2:20:33Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the left's way of importing votes and their votes mean more than your lives and your kids' lives and our lives. And I'm sick and tired. AOC, Biden, Kamala, every hearing I've heard where they're like, these kids, it's not about the kids. It's about illegal people coming here and one death. Guys, Tom, one death. Lake and Riley's death is enough for me. Okay? So if we need to use the military, so be it. Cause one of our lives, to me, is worth more than a thousand of these pieces of shit that come here and they kill our people. That's it. So bring the military and I don't want, let them cry, let them be like, oh, grabbing kids. I don't care at this point. I don't care at this point because here, you know what that means?

• 2:21:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They have audio of her fighting and crying on a 911 call. It's horrible. Like, what are we talking about? So I don't want to hear the Michelle Wu, they can all kiss my, I don't want to hear you. I don't want to hear it. Bring in the military, get them all the hell out of here, shut the border down. There's no more question of it because it's for votes. It wasn't for, oh, we care about, they care about this guy? They don't give a damn.

• 2:21:38Tom Ellsworth?

  One life George Floyd was enough to justify, you know, a whole summer of riots and protests and destruction. And the loss of George Floyd was a tragedy. It was tragedy how he died, it was tragedy he was such an addict, it was tragedy the whole thing happened. But one life was enough to justify, in the liberal mindset, the entire summer of property destruction and protests and all that went on it. But now you come back and we're talking about one life here and it's not enough to get you to get behind sensible immigration policy and sensible assessment of who's coming in and who should be and who is a legitimate refugee from Iran under a failed administration

• 2:22:21Tom Ellsworth?

  and a family that can come here versus people just walking across that have got criminals in their midst? I'm sorry. If one life is good enough for that, then one life is good enough for this. And I think with future looks bright because there's enough people that are going to stand up to it and they're going to ask for it and they just did on November 5th and they're asking for the results. He's been nominated to help get the results and I think people need to stay out of their damn way and let them execute the results. Well, I totally understand why we're all emotional about the situation because Lake and Riley is basically a symbol of why America elected Donald Trump. I mean, talk about the convergence of the broken immigration system and the policies

• 2:23:05Tom Ellsworth?

  the Democrat establishment has basically resurrected between the trans rights over basic normal women's rights, right? So, that letter to her future husband, are you kidding me? What type of woman these days actually writes a letter like that? So, something that can, to think about with Lake and Riley is, her name is going to live on forever after her death. She has a legacy. Even though she wasn't able to create her own legacy... Basically, we were able to make it for her. You know, she's a symbol of what woman, what women should be these days. So, you know, this letter to her future husband where she's saying, I'm gonna make this house a home. And I've got dreams, I'm gonna be a nurse, and I'm gonna be a great mother.

• 2:23:50Tom Ellsworth?

  And I, I believe in God, and I believe in Jesus, and I have values, and I have principles. Women don't necessarily think like that these days. We've seen this. So, you know, Trump's talking about making America great again, and I get that.

• 2:24:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Not many, not many. There are some that do, but not many.

• 2:24:05Tom Ellsworth?

  There are very few, is what I'm saying.

• 2:24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Right.

• 2:24:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump's talking about making America great again, but Lake and Riley is sort of in the camp that's trying to make women great again. I don't know many women that talk like that these days. You know, the Democratic Party that doesn't know the difference between a man and a woman. Here is a woman fighting for her life, who wanted to be a nurse, who wanted to be a wife, who wanted to be a mother. And then you see, you juxtapose that with this resurgence of this 4B movement, where women are out there, and not the most attractive women, let's face it, who are claiming they're not gonna date, they're not gonna have sex, they're not gonna marry, they're not gonna have children. Nobody's interested in those women. Lake and Riley is a symbol of who would be an ideal wife, is a symbol of exactly who men are more interested in these days.

• 2:24:52Tom Ellsworth?

  And her life was unfortunately taken by this guy, but her name will live on forever.

• 2:24:57Patrick Bet-David?

  That letter was a vision statement. She believed the future looked bright. There's no question about it. By the way, you know, this is, in, in life, sometimes strange things happen simultaneously, where, you know, some of it is extremely unfair when it happens. Extremely unfair when it happens. And you never know when it's taking place. And it's typically when there's so much chaos, so much division. It could be in the family, it could be in the country, it could be a company, it could be in anything that takes place. And then all of a sudden, you see certain stories that brings people together. And you realize, common sense prevails, of course. One of the other clips that we didn't see, I think it's the sister that said,

• 2:25:42Patrick Bet-David?

  "I'm willing to give up everything I have just to have her back with me." I've seen, I've seen so many of these clips when I go through them. Listen, I got four kids, two boys, two girls. You know, you know, it's the last thing you want to see a parent go through. May God continue to bless the Riley family. The fact that Lakin wrote that letter to her future husband, that means the right values and principles were taught in that family by mom and dad. Obviously, it's been, it's been a while since this happened. Condolences to the family and justice has been served, of course, based on what you're saying. For a guy like that, we have to use our taxpayer money to take care of this guy in jail for the next however many years, 60 years, he's a young guy.

• 2:26:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe that's the conversation of a death penalty when somebody comes here illegally and does anything to any one of our citizens. You're not only here illegally and you kill one of ours. It's not even a hesitation. We're not going to spend a penny on your life. Death penalty, take this guy out. It's a conversation that maybe needs to be had at the next level. Anyways, guys, this is one of the reasons why we're optimistic. The right people are finding each other and willing to fight for individuals like her and many other individuals to prevent future Lakin Riley stories from happening. At the end of the day, I think God is good. That's where my confidence comes from. Our message here is future looks bright. We're optimistic that the right people are finding each other, working together, have the courage to go out there and do their part.

• 2:27:11Patrick Bet-David?

  If you watch this show, because a part of that DNA and the wiring is in you as well, you matter just as much as everybody else does. We appreciate you. We don't have another podcast, Rob, this week. I think I may be doing one that may go live tomorrow. But for everybody else, we'll do a home team podcast again next week. God bless, have a great weekend. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:27:34Speaker 01

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