Trail Tales 63

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• 1:19Danielle LaRock?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to National Park After Dark. We got trail tales for you right now.

• 1:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, we sure do. Thank you, everyone, as always, for riding in again. We're getting all cozy. I, if you are watching this, I am feeling extra cozy today because it's dumping snow outside. So I put on like my coziest, softest sweater that I own. And I'm like,

• 1:41Danielle LaRock?

  It does look nice.

• 1:42Cassandra Yahnian?

  Let's read some stories. It is, it's like a winter wonderland right now, and it's so nice.

• 1:49Danielle LaRock?

  I'm disappointed in my choice of location, once again.

• 1:55Danielle LaRock?

  I it has snowed once this season. It is now January second as we're recording this. It snowed once and it melted within a day.

• 2:05Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, southern like New England doesn't doesn't get winter anymore. It's actually really sad.

• 2:13Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, it just ain't it. It's upsetting, but I'm excited because I'm gonna be going to like Utah and Colorado in the next couple of weeks. And there's definitely snow there. So it's gonna be really exciting.

• 2:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  And if you're ever craving a weekend of snow, just come up to my place. We have plenty and will until probably end of April.

• 2:33Danielle LaRock?

  Well, I wanna wait until you get your sugar shack done. I wanna stay in the sugar shack.

• 2:38Cassandra Yahnian?

  Okay, well, I'll see you in like three years then.

• 2:41Danielle LaRock?

  What do you mean? I thought you were.

• 2:42Cassandra Yahnian?

  You mean, what do I mean? It's not even insulated. If you slept in there in the winter, you would be so cold.

• 2:48Danielle LaRock?

  I thought it was an Airbnb before.

• 2:50Cassandra Yahnian?

  It was, I don't know how. I think there is a wood stove in there, so I think maybe. Um, also, we have all the water shut off for the winter. So you couldn't actually utilize anything. It would it would be a summer thing.

• 3:07Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, never mind. All right, well, let's read everyone some stories. Uh, would you like to go first?

• 3:15Cassandra Yahnian?

  I I feel weird saying no, so yes, I would like to go first.

• 3:20Danielle LaRock?

  I'm nervous, I've never done this before.

• 3:21Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm like, oh, my God, this is like really uh, scaring me, but yeah, I guess I'll go first. Um, okay, so mine, of course, my favorite topic. Mine is titled plane crash and plane site.

• 3:36Danielle LaRock?

  I mean, the news have has been riddled, riddled with plane crashes. The last couple of weeks.

• 3:44Cassandra Yahnian?

  I had a dream. Uh, that reminds me, I had a dream I was in plane crash the other night.

• 3:49Danielle LaRock?

  Really?

• 3:50Cassandra Yahnian?

  I don't know why, yeah. Yeah, and it was weird. Actually, I had a dream. We were in a plane crash the other night. I don't know why this is like coming back to me.

• 4:00Danielle LaRock?

  Leave me out of it?

• 4:00Cassandra Yahnian?

  Right now. No, I couldn't. You were so I totally forgot about this dream until I just read this. No, so I had a dream that we were taking a private flight. We booked a private plane that costs like thousands and thousands of dollars that in real life we do not have. Um, but in my dream, we were very excited to go on this private plane. And the plane was a little weird. It kind of looked like a, it kind of looked like a limousine on the inside. Uh, and it was like high tech. I don't know. But so we had to drive, we had to fly over New York City to get to where we were going, which I'm not sure exactly where we were going.

• 4:41Cassandra Yahnian?

  But we were flying through New York City and the pilot was like, oh, the cool thing about these planes, these high tech planes is that we actually don't have to fly at the same altitude. So we're going to cruise in between all the skyscrapers of New York City to get to where we're going. And in my dream, I was like, that feels like a really bad idea. Couldn't we hit something? That seems like a really bad idea. So I was really nervous. And of course, right into it, the wing of the plane, I was sitting on the window seat and you were next to me. And of course, the, the wing hits a building. It scrapes the side of it and we just plummet down to the bottom.

• 5:23Cassandra Yahnian?

  Uh, but because there, we weren't that high in elevation, I guess, we were fine. And we both walked out of the plane crash and then we were like, well, we have been wanting to see New York City for a while now. So I guess we'll just switch our trip.

• 5:38Danielle LaRock?

  We're already here.

• 5:39Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah. And then it just like morphed into a bunch of other stuff, but. Yeah, I had a dream that we survived a plane crash.

• 5:47Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, well, at least it had a happier ending because I don't know, like, I gotta get, I've been spending a little bit more time on social media than I usually do. Like, I have a timer set for

• 5:59Cassandra Yahnian?

  Oh, the limit, the daily limit.

• 6:01Danielle LaRock?

  The daily limit, which I do for forty five minutes, but it's hard because it's not just all personal stuff because we have our accounts for this. So it's, it's hard to keep it under forty five minutes, but I, I try really hard, but I've been like hitting ignore limit more often.

• 6:18Cassandra Yahnian?

  Mine's set for an hour, but.

• 6:21Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, it's difficult. And with, you know, it's just all the sad and scary things that happen in the world. Um, it just feels like there's been a lot more recently. So I'm trying to.

• 6:33Cassandra Yahnian?

  Happy two thousand twenty five. The world is going to shit.

• 6:37Danielle LaRock?

  Truly. Okay.

• 6:39Cassandra Yahnian?

  That's the spirit that we want going into the new year.

• 6:43Danielle LaRock?

  Well, someone has to be realistic and it's usually me.

• 6:47Cassandra Yahnian?

  That's true. I am optimistic that two thousand twenty five is gonna be an interesting year.

• 6:52Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, so tell me about.

• 6:54Cassandra Yahnian?

  Okay, to my story, that is not my dream.

• 6:58Danielle LaRock?

  Right.

• 6:58Cassandra Yahnian?

  Titled, A Plane Crash in Plain Sight. Hey, Cassie and Danielle, I have a tale that does not take place on a trail or in a park, but does take place in rural Ohio. It was summer break from school and I was about eight years old. My siblings and I were being super annoying, so my mom separated us and told us to give her a break. I was assigned to go play outside, so I took a big pot from the kitchen and a wooden spoon and set off to play one of my favorite games, Nature Soup Kitchen. I would fill a pot with hose water and then forage my ingredients, flowers, grass, sticks, rocks, whatever I was feeling that day. Once I had all my ingredients, I would mix everything together and pretend I was on Top Chef and frantically cook my soup. I was smart enough not to eat my creation, but I would walk around

• 7:41Cassandra Yahnian?

  and feed it to the trees, bushes, and whatever else looked hungry. That is the most wholesome game I've ever heard also.

• 7:49Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 7:51Cassandra Yahnian?

  So on this particular day, I knew my mom probably needed an hour to herself, so I planned on sitting on my front porch and stirring up some magic while looking at my favorite view. My childhood home's front yard is about fifty yards long to the road. Just past the road is a pretty large cornfield. As I was cooking, I noticed a single-engine plane flying pretty low and right towards me. I immediately became fixated and frozen. Even at my young age, I knew something was wrong. As the plane got lower and closer, I just sat there with zero survival instincts kicking in. Luckily for me, the plane took a sharp right turn before crossing the street into my yard. I heard a large bang, which kicked me out of my frozen disbelief. I immediately ran inside and screamed to my mom, "A plane just crashed outside."

• 8:36Cassandra Yahnian?

  I now don't fault my mom for this, but her response was, quote, "If you kids don't stop making up stories, I'm going to lose it." Yeah, we were really that annoying. With no time to argue, I ran back outside and towards the scene of the accident. My heart was pounding in anticipation of what I was about to run up to. When I arrived, I saw the plane intact, but definitely totaled from the damage. I said, "Hello, is everyone okay?" It was a single man in the pilot's seat, and he seemed a bit beaten up, but overall okay. He said, "Yep, I'm okay, but I don't think my plane is walking away from this one." "I assume you are from across the street. I really thought about landing in your front yard, but I was afraid I'd hit the power lines in the process."

• 9:17Cassandra Yahnian?

  My stomach still turns, thinking about the what-if of him crashing in my front yard while I made my soup. About a minute later from me arriving at the scene, my adult neighbor joined. She had witnessed the crash as well and alerted the authorities. As more people arrived, I Irish exited from the crash and made my way back home. Walking down my driveway, I see my mom opening the front door. She yelled to me, "What's going on out there?" When I reached the door, I said, "I already told you, a plane crashed." She stared at me in disbelief, made her way towards the scene. I made my way back to the front porch to finish what I had started. My mom eventually came back home, and we just stared at each other for a minute. Finally, she said, "I'm really sorry I didn't believe you, but you kids can be so damn annoying sometimes."

• 10:00Cassandra Yahnian?

  Fair enough, I thought. This all happened before the time of social media or getting any source of news from the internet. I did get an update in the paper that the man ended up being just fine and his plane was totaled. The crash was a result of engine failure. That's when I made a promise to myself to never get in a single-engine plane. I want to visit every US national park in my lifetime, but I believe Gates of the Arctic require a single-engine plane ride. Will I get over my fear to conquer a dream? To be determined. I was inspired to submit this story from the plane crash stories you guys have covered. Terrifying to hear about and imagine, but hard to look away from. I was on your Patagonia trip and believe I had a lengthy conversation with Cassie about fear of flying. I'm glad the fear doesn't stop people from traveling and exploring the world. Just know that you're

• 10:43Cassandra Yahnian?

  not the only one on the plane white-nickeling the ride. Thanks for what you guys do and keep it up. Best wishes, Julie. Ah, Julie!

• 10:51Danielle LaRock?

  I remember Julie.

• 10:52Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, of course. And I also remember that conversation, you know?

• 10:57Danielle LaRock?

  I love the nature soup aspect.

• 11:00Cassandra Yahnian?

  But she did not tell me this story in that conversation.

• 11:02Danielle LaRock?

  Did she say how old she was during that?

• 11:05Cassandra Yahnian?

  Eight.

• 11:05Danielle LaRock?

  Oh, okay.

• 11:06Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 11:06Danielle LaRock?

  That's funny. I mean, I totally get the mom's attitude as well.

• 11:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  Oh, yeah. The amount of times I ran up to my mom and was like, "Oh, what if this happened?" Or just like saying some outlandish thing where she was like, "Oh, my God, get away from me. I'm trying to have some peace." Especially when you have siblings too, and you know that the two of you are either fighting or playing too rough or yelling at each other, whatever it is, or just like ganging up on your mom. Like, I can just imagine. Her mom was like, "I don't care that there's a plane crash outside. Get away from me."

• 11:40Danielle LaRock?

  It's like kids and their imaginations. Meanwhile, someone's truly in danger.

• 11:44Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

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• 12:18Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, my next or first story, I should say, is titled "A Goodbye From Beyond." "Hey Cassie and Danielle, I found your podcast through Tooth and Claw and I am now a devoted listener. Your stories have inspired me to be outdoors more and have made me feel more confident in my skills, so thank you for everything that you do. I have listened to all of your stories and now have started listening to the Trail Tale episodes. I recently listened to your Trail Tale episode 12. Danielle talks a lot about signs and I decided I would tell you my story. This does not take place in a national park and I was actually inside when my experience happened, but there is some nature in this story. About 15 years ago, I lost my best friend, but she made sure to say goodbye before she left. We were in our early twenties and had been best friends since second grade.

• 13:03Danielle LaRock?

  I would go on her family vacations and we basically spent every weekend at each other's homes. She was like a sister to me for 14 years and I can't believe she has been gone for longer than I knew her on earth. For this story, I will refer to her as Kate. We are both from New Hampshire, shout out to my Shire folks. Kate's story took place on a cold, icy February New Hampshire morning. She had bravely or stupidly decided to go canoeing with some friends down an icy river. It didn't go well and they capsized. She slipped into the water and it took about three days to recover her body. My story takes place the morning after she was presumed drowned. I had slept over another friend's house and my phone had started to die the night prior, so I had turned it off.

• 13:45Danielle LaRock?

  We went to bed blissfully unaware of what had happened to Kate earlier that day. That night, as I slept, I had the most vivid dream. I was laying in the same bed I was actually sleeping in and Kate came to my bedside. She was cast in a golden hue and she had the biggest smile on her face. She giggled, touched my hair, stroked my left cheek, and my dream ended. The next morning, I woke up very early as my friend had to be in work for 6:00 a.m. When I powered on my phone, I was surprised to find multiple text messages and missed calls. 911, call me back, something happened to Kate, please call me." I had a voicemail from Kate's sister telling me to call her. I immediately called her and was brought to my knees with a

• 14:25Danielle LaRock?

  News that she had to tell me. I remembered the dream I had and knew they would not find her alive. My life completely changed over a thirty second phone call, like so many do. I haven't told anyone about my story because I always thought it was silly and probably just a dream. But as Danielle has said many times, nothing is a coincidence. Since she has been gone, I see her in every butterfly I see. When I ask for a sign from her, a butterfly is usually about to come into my view. I am sorry for my downer of a story, but I'm a vet tech from New Hampshire who loves nature and had a best friend named Cassie. So I feel a real kinship with this podcast and with the two of you. Please continue to do what you do. It is so greatly appreciated. And remember to always wear a life jacket. Much love, Krista.

• 15:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  Krista, I that that was so hard and I can just resonate with it so hard. I know exactly what it's like to have a best friend that you grow up with. That's like a sister to you that you spend all your time with. And to have that happen is so tragic and it's such a it's such a huge loss. And I thank you for sharing that story and for sharing the signs that you have from her. And I it's I can definitely like empathize and feel for you and in everything that you said.

• 15:41Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, I can empathize with the dream of like, it's not exactly, exactly the same. But as she was saying, she had, she didn't know that of the situation and had a dream of her friend coming to her and saying goodbye. I had a my first like very vivid visitation dream from Ian the night that he was in the ICU. So like he went into the hospital and then that evening they, you know, they had to kick me out at some point. And then the next day he was actually officially pronounced deceased. But that evening prior, I had a dream very similar with like just a very

• 16:23Danielle LaRock?

  brief interaction, no words being spoken and kind of like I'm coming to you and letting you know that like.

• 16:32Danielle LaRock?

  This is about to happen type of thing.

• 16:33Cassandra Yahnian?

  Mm hmm.

• 16:34Danielle LaRock?

  And it was just such a vivid visitation and one that like, I mean, my brain was in a million places, right? So at first, it's a, it's a little different because she had no idea. And clearly I had a very good idea of what was going on, but it's the same similar feel, a similar vibe. And I, you know, no one has to convince me of a loved one coming through to them in their dreams. I

• 16:58Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 16:58Danielle LaRock?

  Like, we all know that. So I think that this is a really special story.

• 17:02Cassandra Yahnian?

  I do too. I mean, I think a hundred percent that that was Cassie visiting.

• 17:06Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 17:07Cassandra Yahnian?

  You in your dream. I mean, just everything that you described and her seeming so happy and at peace and just it felt very much like a visitation and how, um, just how clear that the dream was. It really felt like that.

• 17:21Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 17:26Cassandra Yahnian?

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• 18:57Cassandra Yahnian?

  Well, my next story is titled Ghostly Gossip. Hello, hello. My name is North and I've been an avid listener of the podcast for a couple of years now. I love the vibes, the way you tell the stories, like actual stories and not just brief synopsises. And the fact that you include educational information alongside the stories and also the personal banter between the two of you on each episode. This is a podcast that feels modest and humble, narrated by people who don't have large egos, and I'm grateful to how open-minded that you both are. As someone in the LGBTQIA+ community, especially with the results of the recent election, times are scary, and hearing you do episodes centered around my community, hearing you discuss fellow queer people with the same respect as anyone else, just really means a lot to me. Thank you.

• 19:41Danielle LaRock?

  Wow.

• 19:41Cassandra Yahnian?

  Thank you for all the love.

• 19:42Danielle LaRock?

  Shit.

• 19:43Cassandra Yahnian?

  And-

• 19:43Danielle LaRock?

  North, thank you.

• 19:44Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, and the LGBTQ community and everyone, plus and everyone, is always welcome here, and we love you.

• 19:52Danielle LaRock?

  And some of the best people I've ever met, so.

• 19:54Cassandra Yahnian?

  Honestly.

• 19:56Cassandra Yahnian?

  You always have a safe space here.

• 19:58Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 19:58Cassandra Yahnian?

  So I live in Delaware Water Gap Recreational Area in Pennsylvania, particularly in the northern parts of the Poconos in Pennsylvania. In my area, there is a long trail called the McDade Trail. It runs alongside the Delaware River and is overall a very easy hike. One day in fall of 2023, I was spending my free time on Google Earth, as one does, and noticed a cemetery marker in the woods right off the trail. Having stumbled upon a few tombstones of the McDade before, I was curious and wanted to go hike and find the cemetery. I think, actually, it's no longer listed on Google Earth or Google Maps, but I assure you, it is still there. Anyway, it was a rainy fall, early day, and I drove my car down the gravelly, pothole-ridden road into

• 20:40Cassandra Yahnian?

  the woods to where the parking lot closest to the cemetery was located. This was a parking lot meant for a section of the McDade Trail mostly, but whatever, right? So I drive under the canopy of trees. There are no other cars in the parking lot. Makes sense, it's a weekday, it's rainy and super humid, the air is thick and sticky, the ground muddy, and bugs still out, holding on to the warmer days before winter. I sprayed myself down with tick spray, made sure my shoes were tight- Had my knapsack of supplies and my phone GPS out. I didn't have a signal in this area, but that was okay. Google Maps was working fine offline. I walked down the trail. It's very straight and flat in this area. With trees towering above on either side, littered with thick bushes and other flora around their roots.

• 21:23Cassandra Yahnian?

  Thick enough that it would not be easy for someone to leave the trail comfortably, especially without some sort of bushwhacking tool. I hike easily down the trail and then pause right where I am supposed to turn to find the cemetery. There is no trail to the cemetery. I cannot even see the cemetery from the trail at all. But hey, my GPS insists there is one, somewhere in this bout of woods, so I trudge right into the thick brush. Now, I'm kind of a weird hiker in the sense that a smart person would have worn thick pants, but no, no, no. I was wearing my usual beach shorts and my leather sandals. Poison ivy seems to have a minimal effect on me. Thorny bushes don't bother me. So I'm just plowing through like a draft horse, allowing plants to scrape my arms and legs, allowing my feet to squish in the muddy patches.

• 22:07Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm in my element. Nothing in these forests scares me. I'm following the direction of my GPS compass towards the cemetery, only stopping to take pictures. I've attached photos if you wish, if you wish to use. I'm listening to bird songs and insects. In the distance, I can just barely hear cars rushing along Route 209. I am still alone, though. I feel calm. As I said, I'm in my element. I eventually stumble upon the cemetery. It's small but beautiful with a painful wrought iron fence that needs repairs in several places. There are tombstones placed against the outside of the fence and also tombstones covered in moss and ivy, completely impossible to read. There are old horseposts. I climb over a broken part of the iron fence and there are several tall stones, cracked,

• 22:51Cassandra Yahnian?

  written upon in cursive type lettering. They are beautiful and I read them as best as I can. I walk all around this tiny cemetery, taking pictures, sometimes pausing to just breathe in the air, to think of the people who may rest beneath this dirt, to think of the history behind this place. I sit upon a log outside the cemetery and just think, you know? Drink some water, write a little in my journal and just. Chill for a bit, but then it's time for me to go. And this is where things get weird. Now, I'm a secular Jew, agnostic, pantheistic, but open-minded. Yes, I go for scientific explanations first, but I also remember that Arthur C. Clarke, you know, the one with the advanced technology being indistinguishable from magic.

• 23:35Cassandra Yahnian?

  And there can be scientific explanations for the supernatural too, but don't deny the existence of the supernatural. We just haven't evolved that far yet in our understanding, you know? Kind of. I know. I'm confused. I know. I'm following, I'm following. I'm following, I'm confused, but I believe you.

• 23:54Cassandra Yahnian?

  But as I'm climbing over the fence to leave the cemetery, I hear laughter and chatter, and it sounds like two women, like maybe around my age or maybe older. I think maybe there are some other hikers on the trail now. As I make my way through the dense undergrowth towards the McDade, the chatter is still as incessant, but seems to be fading a bit. They sound like two women gossiping. They'd speak in words I couldn't make out and then giggle or outright laugh. And for a moment, I think maybe they see me and I'm the subject of their gossip. Looking at this stupid young man in a t-shirt and shorts and sandals, clambering clumsily through the bushes, sweaty and red-faced. Idiot can't even handle the most straightforward of trails. He got lost so easily. The laughter does feel rather pointed,

• 24:37Cassandra Yahnian?

  and something inside me that isn't usually anxiety or insecurity does make me think that I'm not far off in my assumptions. I'm pretty laid back and make fun of myself often, so being the potential topic of gossip doesn't bother me. It's amusing, actually. I step out of the forest brush and onto the well-managed gravel of the McDade and look up and down the trail. No one is there. This part of the trail is very flat and straight. You can see just how, in the attached photos, where I was standing, I could see down the trail to the parking lot. And yet, I could still hear the giggles and chatter, though now it's much more faint, like the hikers have moved away. But I don't see anyone, and I don't see anyone in the brush. After all, not many people would do what I just did.

• 25:20Cassandra Yahnian?

  I hear no crunching of gravel under hiker footfalls, nothing. But I don't feel as though I'm in danger. I'm just kind of perplexed. Just imagine like a bunch of question marks floating over my head. I trudge slowly down the trail towards my car and the laughter fades the further I get from the cemetery. Huh. Strange. I use one foot to scratch the bear shin of my opposite leg and look down. My legs are sliced up in red and I'm bleeding from several places where I was clearly scraped up by thorn bushes. I'm bemused and I wonder if the ladies were ghosts in the cemetery and I wonder if my own stupidity and lack of self-preservation were topics of gossip and jokes. I wouldn't mind, honestly, if they were entertained by my presence and not angered by it. I consider that a win after

• 26:03Cassandra Yahnian?

  all. It's also possible I wasn't even a subject of their conversations, but something made me think I was. I hike back towards the parking lot and the laughter fades completely. I wipe down my legs with a damp cloth, then get into the driver's seat. On my way out, I noticed that there were no other cars in the lot and no sign that any car but my own had been there the entire day. I still can't explain what I heard or what I felt, but I think the more quote unquote fun interpretation is that I may have awakened two of the ladies in the cemetery and their spirits were either reliving an event from their lives, or they were aware of my presence and making fun of me. Either way, it didn't bother me, mostly just confused me. So I guess if you're ever hiking in that part

• 26:48Cassandra Yahnian?

  of the Poconos, dress more appropriately than me and don't go bushwhacking to find an off-trail cemetery, or you might end up the subject of ghostly gossip. Thank you for creating such an epic podcast, Alexander slash North, he slash him.

• 27:03Danielle LaRock?

  That was really cool.

• 27:04Cassandra Yahnian?

  I think that's such a funny, but I think you're being made fun of too. That feels, it feels very lighthearted and like, look at him, he doesn't even have pants on. Look at his legs. Like, it feels like they were kind of gossiping. In a playful way, too. Not in like a, like almost it kind of

• 27:25Danielle LaRock?

  Not like a mean spirited way.

• 27:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, kind of like laughing with you. Like, you know, this wasn't a good idea. You should have put pants on. Like, kind of like a fun laughing.

• 27:35Danielle LaRock?

  I love that. That's, see, that's your type, that is your type of Haunting.

• 27:40Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, I agree.

• 27:41Danielle LaRock?

  That's what you need.

• 27:42Cassandra Yahnian?

  They're not touching you. It's lighthearted.

• 27:45Danielle LaRock?

  Exactly.

• 27:45Cassandra Yahnian?

  It's fun.

• 27:46Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 27:46Cassandra Yahnian?

  Although I don't know how much, it seems like the vibes were good. So yes, but I like just on paper, hearing women laughing in the woods when I'm alone and no one's around could be creepy.

• 28:00Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, but it's better than men laughing.

• 28:02Cassandra Yahnian?

  That's true. If it, if I heard men laughing and I was alone in the woods, I wouldn't think it was a ghost. I would think someone was like stalking me and about to murder me. Yeah. But women laughing and just be like, oh.

• 28:15Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, like uh huh as I'm.

• 28:17Cassandra Yahnian?

  Slowly backing it out of there.

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• 28:55Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, my next story is titled, This is Not a Coincidence.

• 29:00Cassandra Yahnian?

  Of course it's not.

• 29:00Danielle LaRock?

  And I made a little note to myself because I put this together and this, just so we're all like going to this on the same page. This is a trail tale. That's a follow-up to the story that we share, shared on Trail Tale sixty, which was about the girl and her coworkers who thought they encountered a dark entity and she had really bad luck. And she was like, I don't want to pass it on to you, but you remember? And it's like now people are like, are you okay after hearing that story?

• 29:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yes, someone commented on our Instagram and said that they got in a car accident while they were listening to it.

• 29:32Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, well, this is another follow-up to that person. Sorry.

• 29:37Cassandra Yahnian?

  Are we passing, is the story continuing to pass on bad luck?

• 29:41Danielle LaRock?

  You will answer that at the end of this.

• 29:43Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm just, I'm just wondering if people listening should skip it if they're afraid.

• 29:49Danielle LaRock?

  But it's not the same story. It's not the OG story. It's just like what happened as a result of the OG story.

• 29:55Cassandra Yahnian?

  If you listen to this, you're not taking in that entity.

• 29:58Danielle LaRock?

  Maybe. I don't, I'm not promising anything.

• 30:01Cassandra Yahnian?

  I am.

• 30:02Danielle LaRock?

  I don't know how it works.

• 30:03Cassandra Yahnian?

  Listen at your own risk.

• 30:04Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 30:04Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm forced. I'm here, so.

• 30:07Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, so it begins. It all started after listening to your listener tales episode the other day. The one where the listener tells their flesh pedestrian story. Well, I got a bad feeling the entire time I was listening and felt I needed to turn it off. However, I was way too curious and kept on going.

• 30:24Cassandra Yahnian?

  Fair.

• 30:25Danielle LaRock?

  Nothing really happened the first night. I was closing at work and anytime I turned a light off and it was in the dark, I could feel someone behind me. I could even see them in my mind as a dark figure with a bright white smile. I fortunately work with my amazing boyfriend, so I made him take care of the rest of the lights lol. Anyway, I am scared of the dark, so I figured I was just having some anxiety. Also sensitive to spirits and our work location is haunted, so I just chalked it up to the combination of both. Later on, I went to walk my dogs like normal. After about a half a mile, I got an uneasy feeling that I was being watched. I looked up ahead of me into the pine trees and saw a shadow darker than the night itself, crouched down.

• 31:06Cassandra Yahnian?

  Ugh, don't.

• 31:07Danielle LaRock?

  My dogs, no. My dog seemed unfazed, so I figured I was just seeing things. However, my survival instincts kicked in and I knew inside that something was wrong. I turned on my heel and walked calmly the other way back home with my dogs. In my mind, I was freaking out and thought about the listener tale, but knew I needed to stay calm. Now on to last night. I was on the phone with my dad and stepmom while I walked the dogs. I usually have them on speakerphone in my jacket so they can hear if anything happens to me. And I can hopefully yell details to them if needed. Isn't that, okay, just a brief thought, isn't that so sad that you need to think about that? Of like, I'm just out on a walk, but if anything is to happen to me, I need someone to be able to know.

• 31:52Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 31:53Danielle LaRock?

  In real time. So I can share some identifying details, like that's just depressing.

• 31:58Cassandra Yahnian?

  I think that any woman listening to this can resonate with that and has done that. I know I have.

• 32:04Danielle LaRock?

  Or just known, like, okay, I have this, I can pull out really quickly, or I'm just already holding something, or whatever.

• 32:11Cassandra Yahnian?

  You're thinking of a weapon, you're looking for a rock if you're walking around, you're thinking of escape routes. Yeah.

• 32:17Danielle LaRock?

  I felt followed and watched the entire time and my dogs were on high alert. We only did maybe a fourth of a mile out and then headed back home to our townhouse. While I was walking back with my dogs, I noticed a man walking around the outside of my complex on his phone. He would walk about 10 feet to his left, then turn around and walk back and so on and so forth. He looked confused and looking for someone, maybe? I was about 50 yards from my front door when this man started walking in our direction. Not towards us, but towards the other townhomes. He already made me feel pretty uneasy with his erratic actions, so I was already on alert. Well, he went from a speed walk to a dead stop, maybe about 35 feet away from me and turned directly towards me.

• 32:59Danielle LaRock?

  I stopped walking, pulled my dogs in closer to me and stared at him. I had pulled my phone out of my jacket and placed it in my hand in a way that if needed, I could ideally break his nose or at least hurt him in some way. My Taekwondo master used to tell me anything is a weapon, so I live by that to this day. Anyway, he starts walking towards me at his weird brisk speed and my dogs are pissed. My dog Houston, a blue healer Pyrenees, stood right next to me but a little behind me and started a low guttural growl I had never heard from him before. Ollie, a lab terrier, stood about five feet in front of me, doing the same thing. Neither dog has ever been aggressive and Ollie loves people, so I knew something was wrong.

• 33:40Danielle LaRock?

  I go into full fight mode, ready to beat this bold ass little man into the next century. You love that. When he just, when he just as suddenly stopped and turned the other way and continued to walk. I sat and watched him for a while, just to make sure he wouldn't come back up behind me or watch to see where I lived. But he continued to other homes and then went up the street. Maybe this man thought I was just somebody else, or maybe not. About five minutes after I got inside, I had the worst stomach pain ever and sat in the bathroom dry heaving for 45 minutes, then fell asleep in the shower. Is this related? Maybe, I don't know. Tonight, as we were walking, the feeling of being followed and watched was the worst. I pushed through and in my head just kept saying, "You cannot touch me. I am a child of God."

• 34:26Danielle LaRock?

  We went further and Always fine. We turned to go home after a little over a mile and both dogs were on alert again. Houston walked right next to me and a little behind in her protective way and Ollie in front with his hair on end. My fur babies are almost seven years old and I have had them since they were both six weeks. So our bond is amazing and I know they will always keep me safe. And yes, before I am judged for having them since they were so, so young. Ollie was free on Facebook Marketplace where a farmer said they all needed to find home soon or they would be trigger warning taken care of. Houston was born on my family farm, so I kind of had had her since birth. Anyways, we got maybe halfway home and all of a sudden they both stopped, ears perked, hair on end, growling.

• 35:08Danielle LaRock?

  To say I was scared was an understatement. There have been wolves seen in the area as well as our typical black bear, so I thought either could be an option. I crossed the street right away from the direction they were looking and encouraged them to continue to go faster. But we're still at a walking pace. We went maybe forty feet and I looked off into the field and someone or something was standing in the field about thirty yards away from me. It seemed to absorb any light around it. I panicked internally. My dogs were pissed and trying to get away. We crossed the street again where the development started and it was well lit. We hauled ass back home. I felt like it was following us and getting closer. I kept repeating, you cannot touch me. I have protective hands. I am protected by love,

• 35:52Danielle LaRock?

  light and God. I say this over and over and over until we get home. And when I reached my front door, I felt that that dark evil entity was right behind me and trying to come into my home. I closed my door, said a blessing and set a boundary. Hopefully it works. I'm not sure what this is, if it's related to your story or not. I am ready for it to go away though. I hope you guys and other listeners are all safe. If you choose to read this on the podcast, stay safe and watch your back. You never know what may be lurking. Cheyenne.

• 36:23Cassandra Yahnian?

  Oh my God, that's so scary. Why do you keep telling these on the podcast?

• 36:28Danielle LaRock?

  I just feel like they need to be voiced and given some

• 36:33Cassandra Yahnian?

  Giving another entity to attach to?

• 36:35Danielle LaRock?

  No, I don't want to pass it on, but I want to recognize that people are suffering. Let's just, okay, ready? We're gonna stop right now. Close your eyes really quickly.

• 36:44Cassandra Yahnian?

  Okay.

• 36:46Danielle LaRock?

  Take a breath, take a deep breath in and imagine you're just like sucking in all the positive vibes, good energy, protective, healing light.

• 36:58Danielle LaRock?

  And then breathe out and imagine all of that is just projected out around you into like this safe little bubble just emanating off of you.

• 37:07Cassandra Yahnian?

  Okay.

• 37:09Danielle LaRock?

  There we are.

• 37:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm safe.

• 37:12Cassandra Yahnian?

  I hope everyone else did that and you're safe too.

• 37:15Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 37:17Cassandra Yahnian?

  And that's scary. I, I hope you're okay and uh, cause this sounds like it's this is currently happening. Uh, so I hope that uh, it's all resolved after.

• 37:31Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, like she said, it could have gone either way. Like he could have just been lost and weird and whatever and

• 37:36Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, but the second entity, the dark entity that followed her to the door is what I'm more concerned about. Cause the guy, he seemed like he might've been like a sketchy guy trying to break into someone's house is what it sounds like.

• 37:46Danielle LaRock?

  Right, yeah.

• 37:47Cassandra Yahnian?

  Cause he was looking for a home that was empty to break into and then she like happened.

• 37:52Danielle LaRock?

  Place of work too.

• 37:53Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 37:54Danielle LaRock?

  And feeling like that dark shadow. Anyway, so

• 37:57Cassandra Yahnian?

  I hope it's

• 37:58Danielle LaRock?

  I don't want to revisit it all. We just talked about it. We all know what happened, but I don't know, just like it feels weird that things are happening to people after. So maybe, okay, what was it? Trail tale sixty, did I say?

• 38:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 38:11Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah. So maybe just don't listen to that one story in that, if you haven't yet.

• 38:15Cassandra Yahnian?

  It's the first story that Daniel reads.

• 38:19Danielle LaRock?

  Okay.

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• 38:49Cassandra Yahnian?

  Okay, my next story is titled, "Don't Feed the Bears." Hi ladies, I first want to start off by saying I love, love, love the podcast. I found out about y'all from my girls Ash and Elena over on the Morbid Podcast. Oh, we love Ash and Elena.

• 39:04Danielle LaRock?

  I actually was at the library today picking up our most recent book club book.

• 39:08Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 39:08Danielle LaRock?

  Vanishing Treasures. And I saw Elena's book.

• 39:12Cassandra Yahnian?

  Oh, that's so cool.

• 39:13Danielle LaRock?

  Thing and I was like, I know her.

• 39:15Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 39:15Danielle LaRock?

  So cool.

• 39:16Cassandra Yahnian?

  So cool. So exciting to have your own book and like her name. I've seen it, I think I was at Barnes and Noble and I saw it there and I was like, oh my God, that's amazing.

• 39:25Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah.

• 39:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah. After listening to your Night of the Grizzlies episode, I was inspired to write in about a crazy tale that happened to my uncle a few years back. I'm honestly not sure if what he did was illegal. And if not illegal, then I think he'd be heavily fined. So I'll leave his name out of it, smiley face. You can use mine since I have the most basic white bitch name on the planet and him and I don't have the same last name. So I think he's safe for now. That's so funny. My uncle lives in an area of Colorado, about an hour and 15 minutes from Denver. He lives in a huge neighborhood, basically on the side of the mountain, where him and all his neighbors have at least 30 acres each. Everyone in this neighborhood has money, money and have all lived there for at least 10 years.

• 40:09Cassandra Yahnian?

  So everyone knows of and is respectful of the law of the land. That is, until a new family moved in. There is so much wildlife in this neighborhood. Everything from mountain lions to bears to turkeys to elk and deer. One year when visiting, I was driving down their long windy driveway, windy, long windy driveway, long windy driveway and was about five feet. From totaling my rental car into a huge elk. I almost pooped my pants when I saw the thing. Sorry for the detour. Back to my story. My aunt and uncle never really had too many issues with the bears. Besides occasionally forgetting to lock their garage door and then them getting into the garbage. They kind of just minded their own business. But soon, everyone started noticing more bear sightings in the neighborhood.

• 40:51Cassandra Yahnian?

  Particularly around the area that the new neighbors moved to. This could only mean one thing. They were leaving out food for the bears. Multiple people reported this to honestly, I don't know who. But they had to pay some pretty significant fines, but apparently they had the money like that and didn't really care. Because of this, as we've seen in many instances, bears were associating humans with food. And when that happens, things don't usually end well. One cool day, my uncle was making breakfast with the doors and windows open to feel the breeze. While my aunt sat on the front patio swing with her dog, Brody. My aunt hears a grunt and looks up to see a bear coming up the driveway. Following the smell of the food my uncle is cooking, the bear comes closer and closer.

• 41:32Cassandra Yahnian?

  My aunt, paralyzed in fear, only manages to call out my uncle's name. He runs out to see what's wrong and is met with a chaotic scene. My aunt, frozen on the porch swing, a bear only feet away from both of them. And their dog barking aggressively at the bear and inching closer and closer. My uncle runs back inside and grabs a shotgun, comes back outside and fires a warning shot in the air. Hoping to scare the bear away. It remains in its position. He fires another one and the bear starts to inch forward, closer to my aunt, their dog, and the entrance of the house. Having no other options left and the bear approaching him, he fires several shots at the bear.

• 42:11Cassandra Yahnian?

  It lets out a cry and runs away. He grabs my aunt and tugs her back inside while ushering Brody in as well. They sat in silence, trying to process the events that just took place. A month or so later, on their daily walk to get mail down their mile-long driveway. Brody seems to catch the scent of something and takes off into the brush. Moments later, he returns with something in his mouth. It's a decaying bear paw. My uncle rushed to where Brody just was, and there he sees the bear's body, very much dead. Very much decomposed. It's a sad story, really. My aunt and uncle are both huge animal lovers, and it really took a toll on them that they were responsible for this bear's death. But in all honesty, they aren't the sole people responsible.

• 42:52Cassandra Yahnian?

  If those neighbors followed the rules that are set for a reason and didn't feed the wildlife, then the bear likely would have never gotten the courage to approach my aunt and uncle the way that it did. The bear probably would have gone on living its happy life in the wilderness, feeding on whatever came, came its way through natural forces. Hopefully, this can be a lesson to not interfere with nature. Bears and other wildlife are accustomed to obtaining food in a way that nature allows them to. They don't need your help. You may think it's fun or cute or whatever, but you never know who or what may be impacted by your selfish actions. Thank you for reading. P.S. My uncle actually took the bear's skull and cleaned it, and it's now on a shelf in his office. Also, I'm a Midwesterner, so I have no idea what type of bear it was.

• 43:35Cassandra Yahnian?

  I just know it wasn't a polar bear. It's my face. Emma.

• 43:39Danielle LaRock?

  Well, Emma, it was a black bear, for sure. And I don't know what the illegal part, maybe the keeping of the skull is maybe illegal.

• 43:46Cassandra Yahnian?

  Maybe.

• 43:46Danielle LaRock?

  That, remember, she's like, I don't know if what he did was illegal.

• 43:49Cassandra Yahnian?

  Unless it was like in a protected area. Or I guess, um, certain areas have, um, black bear hunting seasons. Maybe is what she's referring to, like it wasn't the right season to shoot a bear.

• 44:00Danielle LaRock?

  But it was in their house.

• 44:01Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah. Well, it was right outside their house.

• 44:04Danielle LaRock?

  Oh, I thought it was like entering their house from the porch.

• 44:06Cassandra Yahnian?

  No, it sounds like it was feet away outside their house, walking towards them.

• 44:11Danielle LaRock?

  Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, it is, that's, I mean, it is awful and it's sad and it, you're so right. It's, there's, it's not just solely your uncle and aunt's quote unquote fault. Like, they, they were scared and frightened and the bear clearly wasn't being hazed.

• 44:26Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, I mean, if a bear's not afraid of gunshots going off and it's still walking towards you, I can see how that would be really scary. And the fact that their neighbors were actively feeding the bears, it was only a matter of time that something like that happened, whether it was with your uncle or another neighbor.

• 44:45Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, it reminds me of, um, the book, which we've talked, uh, briefly about. Before here, I think, and I know it's been suggested on our book club on Patreon, but Fuzz by Mary Roach, which I read a couple of years ago. She talks a lot about just how frustrating it can be when it doesn't matter if nine out of 10 people are doing the right thing, especially when it comes to proper garbage containment in areas that have, you know, bear presence or other wildlife presence. And it all it takes is one person to either intentionally feed wildlife or not properly do, you know, use bear safe garbage, like disposal methods and things like that.

• 45:29Danielle LaRock?

  And, and it can wind up in a situation like this. And it's just kind of hard because a lot of the problems that come from human and wildlife interactions, it's just like falls so heavily on community being all like united. And people, you know, a community of people do it all doing what they can and doing the right thing. And that can get really tricky.

• 45:53Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 45:54Danielle LaRock?

  Because people love to do their own thing and not follow the rules.

• 45:57Cassandra Yahnian?

  And people don't really understand the implications of their actions all the time, like they might be well intentioned, but then.

• 46:04Danielle LaRock?

  Look what happens.

• 46:04Cassandra Yahnian?

  Stuff like that happens, yeah.

• 46:06Danielle LaRock?

  Okay, my last story is titled broccoli on the road.

• 46:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  I do love broccoli.

• 46:12Danielle LaRock?

  Do you love broccoli?

• 46:13Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, I do, actually. I think broccoli is great.

• 46:15Danielle LaRock?

  I have such a vivid, I like it now. I wouldn't say I love it, but I'll eat it, especially if it's seasoned and like mixed in with a bunch of other stuff.

• 46:23Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 46:24Danielle LaRock?

  But I have this vivid memory of having broccoli as a kid. And it was just like on the side in its own thing. It wasn't mixed in or anything or whatever. And I was just like, I was trying to eat it and it was either my mom or my step down there like just eat, like you gotta eat it. And I remember just taking a bite out of the head of it, like the big fluffy part, and it just making me want to throw up so bad. And I went to the sink and was like gagging. And they're like, you are so dramatic.

• 46:53Danielle LaRock?

  Being dramatic.

• 46:54Cassandra Yahnian?

  You just didn't like the texture?

• 46:55Danielle LaRock?

  No, I, I think the te- I don't, I'm not one of those people who has a texture problem with food. I don't know what the hell it was, but it was, it's a vivid, vivid memory. And every time I see broccoli, I kind of think of it. But I know it's good for me and now I'm not as much of a little bitch. Okay.

• 47:14Cassandra Yahnian?

  I'm glad you're eating your greens now.

• 47:16Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah. All right. Hi, Cassie and Danielle. My name is Courtney and I work at a provincial park in rural Nova Scotia. I have many stories about the park I work at. However, today I wanted to share a sign story with you. I am sitting in my deer stand right now as I write this, hoping a deer walks by, so fingers crossed. A month ago in October, my hunting buddy and neighbor of four years, let's call him John, died suddenly of a heart attack. We hadn't had a chance to go out hunting together the season before he passed away. He was only sixty-seven and lived a very active lifestyle of farm work. The day he had his heart attack, they shocked his heart back with an AED, but his brain had already lacked oxygen for ten minutes too long. He would be on life support for a few days.

• 47:59Danielle LaRock?

  And the night before he was taken off life support, I was visiting the park that I work at while off shift. The northern lights were visible, which is uncommon for my area. As I was admiring them, I got a text saying that the next morning, they were going to be taking John off of life support. I drove up the road back home to the farm and fell asleep. That night, I had a dream where I walked outside to find John packing the trunk of his car. It looked like he was packing for a long trip. I asked, where are you going? But he didn't say anything. He just looked up and smiled. I woke up that morning and drove to the hospital to say goodbye. Here is the sign part. Last season, when I hunted with him, we were walking back after a cold November day. We took a shortcut through the broccoli field.

• 48:43Danielle LaRock?

  He knelt down, picked a head of broccoli and handed it to me. He said, we ain't gonna get any deer today, so here's some broccoli instead. With a smile. That was the last time I was hunting with him, November of 2023. So I went out hunting alone, October 2024. He had just passed away a week prior. I go out with my shotgun and rubber boots and head to the deer stand. I'm walking through the muddy tractor treads on the dirt road and right in front of me is a single head of broccoli, just like the one John picked for me last season. There was no broccoli planted in this particular field, so I picked it up and smiled. I went home after and gave the broccoli to his wife. Oh, my God.

• 49:24Danielle LaRock?

  I didn't get a deer that day. I think it was John's way of saying that he was here with me out hunting, or maybe it was just his way of saying, I ain't getting a deer today. Hunting season is ending next week. I'm hoping to get a deer to give to his wife to fill her freezer for the winter. Thank you for reading. We love the podcast. My coworker and I listened to your show at the park during our night shifts. Attached is a photo of the broccoli on the road and the next photo below is of me today on the deer stand, freezing my tits off. Courtney. Courtney, I love that. That's so sweet and very thoughtful to include his wife in what you're doing surrounding, you know, him.

• 50:05Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah, and I definitely think it was a sign. I agree.

• 50:08Danielle LaRock?

  You ain't getting a deer today.

• 50:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  Yeah.

• 50:10Danielle LaRock?

  Honey.

• 50:10Cassandra Yahnian?

  I also feel like you got a visitation dream, too.

• 50:13Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, I told you. Yep, that was snuck in there, too. Yep.

• 50:18Cassandra Yahnian?

  Well, thank you so much for sharing and thank you, everyone, for sharing on the podcast. We love to read these. If you have a story that you'd like to share, you can go onto our website, npadpodcast.com, and there's a little submission link and you can write in your own trail tale.

• 50:31Danielle LaRock?

  Yeah, and if you are an outsider, either on Patreon or on Apple subscriptions, we each have a bonus story to share with you. Mine is titled, Babies Are Friends, Not Food.

• 50:42Cassandra Yahnian?

  Oh, okay. Mine is titled, Scarf Lady in Arches Saves the Day.

• 50:48Danielle LaRock?

  Awesome. All right. Well, thank you, everyone, for listening and watching, if you're watching us, and we will see you next week. In the meantime, enjoy the view.

• 50:56Cassandra Yahnian?

  But watch your back.

• 50:57Danielle LaRock?

  Bye.

• 50:58Cassandra Yahnian?

  Bye.

• 51:00Danielle LaRock?

  Thank you for joining us again this week. If you have a trail tale of your own you'd like to share, you can write to us at [email protected] or visit our website at npadpodcast.com. Bonus trail tales and content are available to Patreon members and Apple subscribers. Follow the show on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X at National Park After Dark. And if you prefer to watch our episodes, you can find us on YouTube at National Park After Dark. And as always, if you enjoy the show, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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