The HiStudio Hype House with Chris Gethard

In this week's Fraud Friday, Laci is joined by Chris Gethard (The Special Without Brett Davis, Don't Think Twice) to discuss how a CEO created a Hype House style podcasting network that led to lawsuits, trash and fallout. Plus, someone stole more than 42,000 pounds of pistachios in California and that was just nuts. Stay schemin'! (Originally Released 07/12/2021) CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show, Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Order “Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes" here: Hachette Book Group Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Chris Gethard: @chrisgeth Research by Kaelyn Brandt SOURCES: https://www.theverge.com/22526502/himalaya-histudios-notorious-llc-podcast-audio-hype-house https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/21/pistachio-theft-alberto-montemayor-touchstone/ https://www.instagram.com/notorious.llc/ https://notorious.llc/creators/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/colettecoleman/2020/10/19/with-the-dumpster-fyre-podcast-fyre-festivals-founder-is-back-with-an-audio-tell-all-from-prison/?sh=24d1c81b7cd3

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• 3:07Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess Vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.

• 3:49Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? This is the first recording that I've done in my new place, so forgive me if the sound is a scam. But I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try my best, guys. Uh, it's so good, it's so good to hear from you. How are you doing? Yes, that's great. Or, ooh, that's awful. Or, wow, that's boring. Choose which one fits for you. Guys, I'm what? I'm super what? Yes, excited, excited for today's grails. Like this, this man is such a hilarious comedian. He's such a smart person. I've like flown around the spaces with him for a while. And never gotten to have like an opportunity where I could actually sit down and talk with him. Other than business stuff. So I'm really excited to have Chris together on the show today.

• 4:30Laci Mosley?

  Um, guys, you know him as a comedian based out of New Jersey. You know, we love Jersey in the building. Turnpike, turnpike. Um, he's also can be seen, um, oh, excuse me, heard on his podcast, which is very popular, beautiful slash anonymous. And he has a special out right now called Half My Life, which is half documentary and half stand up special. Guys, get into it. And it's out everywhere right now. What space, Chris? Chris, where is this out?

• 4:55Speaker 06

  Uh, first of all, I have to say I'm a low energy human being and you just blew me out of the water. So I'm gonna do my best to keep up. But yeah, you can get it on, uh, you know, iTunes and Amazon and YouTube and Vimeo and all those places. All those great places where things happen. Hello, thank you.

• 5:10Laci Mosley?

  Half My Life, Chris. Thank you so much for being here. I do also have to say like, I think the audience will appreciate your energy because I've been out here screaming with people for the past few weeks. So they're like, finally, like, oh my God.

• 5:23Speaker 06

  I'll try to keep up. I have a two year old son though. So, and I think I actually sound how I usually feel right now. I feel like my voice is blown out. Where it's accurate. But yeah, I'm just gonna try to keep up because I'm older and I'm tired. So I'll do my best. How's that for a ringing endorsement of this?

• 5:39Laci Mosley?

  That's beautiful.

• 5:40Speaker 06

  Fireworks of this episode.

• 5:42Laci Mosley?

  I love how you're setting it up. And also like, I'm tired as well. I, I cannot wait. I didn't, when I moved, I was like, oh, okay. Now I get to just lay here and do nothing after my birthday party. And my cousin was like, no, you have to unpack and we have to get furniture for your place before I leave town. I was like, uh, no, I just want to lay here and watch Drag Race. So, um, I'm also tired. But yeah, here we are.

• 6:04Speaker 06

  Birthday.

• 6:05Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. Thank you. I'm actually gonna talk about, that's what's hot and fraud today is me getting scammed in my birthday weekend. But before we get to that. Chris, what's your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed? Do you like them? Do you hate them? Like where do you lie on the spectrum?

• 6:19Speaker 06

  I would say that I'm pretty gullible and therefore easily scammable.

• 6:24Laci Mosley?

  A mark.

• 6:24Speaker 06

  I have a, I would say strange combination of like, you did mention that I grew up in New Jersey and I have some North Jersey in me. So I'm very skeptical. But when I, when they get me, I get, got pretty hard. Um, there's like a couple of things that come to mind where I go.

• 6:42Laci Mosley?

  A camel? Okay, we need to know at least one.

• 6:44Speaker 06

  Well, if you want to just get into it. One is, one, you may be able to help me as someone who, who really is acquainted with these things. First of all, I was part of one, which I understand is a pretty common internet scam. Where I just came home one day, this was when I lived in Queens. And my hallway, there were like fourteen gigantic Amazon boxes with my name on them outside my door. Like a big giant tower of boxes. It looked like someone was like trying to build a fort outside my front door. And they were all filled with very low quality protein powder. And I opened them up, I was like, what is happening here? And my understanding is that this is a thing that just happens sometimes. Where sometimes somebody on Amazon will just send you a million of the same thing.

• 7:28Speaker 06

  And I tried to understand what it was, something to do with now they have the ability to give better reviews to that product as you.

• 7:36Laci Mosley?

  Yes, Chris, amen. You know what you're talking about, that's it.

• 7:40Speaker 06

  Yeah, I, I got that one. And, but then the, the real bad part about that is, at the end of the day, it's even like, did I really get scammed? It's just a bunch of stuff showed up at my door. Here's where it gets real annoying, is I had a one bedroom apartment and a baby. And my wife and I lived there, and then you call Amazon and they go, oh, well, it's cheaper if you just keep it. And I'm like, I don't need fifteen five gallon powder, protein powder. So.

• 8:06Laci Mosley?

  That could be like, like a Bulleck Similac? Did y'all stir it up and see if the baby liked it?

• 8:12Speaker 06

  I started giving it away to, to friends of mine. I, I was, at the time, I was having a midlife crisis. I mean, I've on and off done Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for many years and I'd started doing it again. Um, around this time, because I was having a midlife crisis. And I started giving it to younger, fitter people at my gyms. And they were like, why are you giving us this like terrible off brand protein powder?

• 8:33Laci Mosley?

  Chris, you missed a huge opportunity to start your MLM. You could have just took that powder and you, you could have been the up line and then you get somebody on the down line. Next thing you know, you got people slinging it on the corner. You take it with you to your baby's nursery while the babies are. You could have really made some coin, Chris. Get into our first segment, what's hot and fried? And guys, today was hot and fried is me again. Uh, this is really embarrassing because in the two years that we, almost two years, we've been doing this podcast. I have not been what's hot and fried at all the first year. And then now this is the second time this year that I'm about to be what's hot and fried and wow.

• 9:12Laci Mosley?

  So if you follow me on Instagram or any social media, really, you know that my birthday is always on uh, the fourth of July. And we call it the fourth of July. See, I was born on the fourth of July. I don't know why I said it's always like it's gonna be a leap year or something. It's the fourth of July. So I call it the fourth of July, see? And for the past few years, like obviously during COVID, I couldn't do a big party. And then like this was a big birthday and I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Like everyone's vaccinated. We rented out this huge mansion. Twelve of my friends and family flew in. We had um, my cousin who uh, does black mat yoga. That's his company. His name's Eric. He led us in yoga. Everyone wore black. I had dress code. It was like my fucking wedding. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna get married to nobody, you know? So let me just have a wedding real quick.

• 9:56Laci Mosley?

  Like literally everyone was in black and I would be in white. Like it was like my wedding. We had a surf and turf dinner at the house. I was catered by this amazing chef. Um, it was just a, it was good vibes. So on Saturday, we wake up, we do yoga. That's led by my cousin Eric and um, it was really beautiful. We're on the rooftop. We're all in black. I got everyone these black mats and these gift bags. Like I really tried to blow it out for my family because they've really been holding me down, right? So we're doing the yoga. It's great. Good vibes. Then we go in the kitchen and my mom already has brunch litty. Like we turn on some uh, trap gospel, which is a mixture of trap and gospel music. Uh, like there's this remix to this song. I don't know if you've ever heard this song, Chris, but it's called Never Would've Made It by Fred Hammond.

• 10:39Laci Mosley?

  And it's like a pretty popular song. Uh, if you're like Baptist or if you're black in general and go to church and just like, Never would've made it, never could've made it without you. I know some of y'all know it. Um, but they have a trap version that's like, never would've made it, never, never. And it's like, so we're like twerking to gospel. Taking shots. My mom was like, I don't know how I feel about this. So we go on this yacht party. I send my mom, my auntie and my sister to get massages cuz like my sister's too young and my momma auntie's too old. So I was like, y'all go get massages. I should've went with they asses cuz I had a party planner and my assistant who's wonderful like

• 11:21Laci Mosley?

  some things I had to be very hands on with, but I thought this yacht rental situation, I had just done it in Miami for my other best friend's birthday. We thought it was gonna be chill. Uh, instead, we get out here. I tell everybody, wear white. Okay, cute. Everybody meets up at my house. We get the Ubers to go to the marina. Everyone's in white. I'm in like this like Dior baby suit that's like white and blue for the photos. So Chris, we get there and you can, and this is always a conversation on this podcast, Chris, and you can interrupt if you have questions.

• 11:52Speaker 06

  I just feel like all of this, all of this sounds fake to me. This sounds like the most amazing experience of all of these people's lives. And this is just what you did for your birthday?

• 12:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, I, my friends are like very bougie. They love to like, I, we were on my friend's yacht for her birthday. Like, we're just like, I'll put it this way, when I grew up, uh, my mom loved to throw parties and she loved to like have like valet go park people's cars at the pool. We would have ice sculptures. In my grandpa's eightieth, we were all doing shots off of an ice sculpture loop. Like, my mom loves a good party.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  My birthday this year,

• 12:29Speaker 06

  Lacey, my birthday this year, I looked at the calendar and we were already scheduled to get dinner with my neighbors, the Haynesworths. So my wife just gave them a heads up and they added a cake.

• 12:39Laci Mosley?

  Come on, the Haynesworths?

• 12:40Speaker 06

  The Haynesworths. They're, they're a lovely older couple that live down the road and they had us over for dinner. And I said, oh, that's my birthday. And my wife said, okay, well, tell the Haynesworths that we also need a cake. And that was it. You're having like yoga and yachts and mansions? Who are you? What did I become a part of here? I thought we were gonna talk about protein powder scams.

• 13:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, we, we, we're gonna get to some more scams, but this scam, Chris, okay, if you can believe it, it's gonna get pretty wild. And, and um, congregation, I will post photos cuz I made sure to take photos of this shit as it was happening because I was like, what the fuck is going on? So everybody's in white, right? We meeting at the marina, right? We had gotten some food cuz the Cheesecake Factory was nearby. So somebody was like, let's just get some, you know, appetizers and food for people there. And then we already have liquor and everything on the boat. Like, cool. I've seen pictures of this boat. It's huge. But like, I'm not really paying attention because I'm slammed, I'm working at the time, I'm doing PR. Like, I'm not, I didn't have time to look at every single little detail. Otherwise, I would have realized, like, these photos were cute, but this boat is huge, but it's older.

• 13:46Laci Mosley?

  And that's not what I wanted. That's not, that wasn't the vibes. The vibes were like popping and new, not old Titanic boat. So, first red flag. We get there, we're outside the marina. And we're standing around. We're a little late because Pablo, who is the main character of the story, Pablo. He, he told us that his last excursion ran a little long. It's a holiday, so I'm trying to be like, understanding. We're waiting, and I'm like, don't we need to just walk to the dock that we're gonna get on? And then we just get on the boat? And they're like, well, no, because the boat is so big. You have to take a smaller boat to the actual boat. Then I'm like, okay, well, that still sounds cute, okay.

• 14:25Laci Mosley?

  We're waiting for Pablo for like, half an hour. Now I'm getting pissed. I'm like, I have all these guests out here dressed in white. And, and we are standing out on the curb, looking like slaves on Easter Sunday. And it was like, what, what is happening? So, we look across the street and we see another group of people, a large group, also waiting. So then I was like, okay, well, maybe this is just the norm. Like, I see other people waiting in there, you know, with their coolers or whatever they're doing. Like, maybe this is a situation I don't understand. So, then my assistant gets on the phone, because at this point, I'm like, where the fuck is Pablo? Because he'd have to catch these hands, okay? So, she gets on the phone, and I overhear her say, oh, do you have on your pirate's hat? Because he said he was walking over. And I said, pirate's hat? Why is this man wearing a pirate's hat?

• 15:10Speaker 06

  So, he was, it wasn't an expectation that you would wear a pirate's hat?

• 15:13Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 15:14Speaker 06

  Okay, that's good.

• 15:15Laci Mosley?

  He's the captain of the boat. Now, look, I, I didn't sign up for SpongeBob SquarePants yacht. So, finally, we see Pablo. He's coming over, right? This is the sweatiest man I've ever seen in my entire life. This nigga ran, ran to us. And was so sweaty, like, Chris, I need to understand, like, drenched, like, hair soaked, face soaked. I'm gonna see if I can pull up a picture right now for you, so you can see how insanely sweaty this man was. He had to have been on cocaine. There's just no way. That he wasn't all day.

• 15:47Speaker 06

  Hey, listen, on on behalf, I feel like there's probably many listeners who have never attended a party to the level of what you're you're saying, as I have not. So on behalf of all those people, was he wearing a pirate's hat? And what does that mean?

• 15:59Laci Mosley?

  So he had the pirate's hat and later on, I think I have a photo where he's in the back with the pirate's hat on. But let me, I took pictures with them because I was like, I need people to understand. Hold on, let me see. Look at how sweaty this man is, Chris.

• 16:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, he looks like he took a shower with his clothes on.

• 16:15Laci Mosley?

  Literally, and this is like five, like four hours after we first met him. He's still sweating that hard. So he comes, he's sweaty, he's like, come on, y'all, we about to get on the boat. So we get on this huge kind of like, I don't even know how to describe it. It was like maybe a party boat, but like a hollowed out boat. It's not like luxurious, it's just like a big boat, like a tugboat, I don't know. So we get on this boat. It's supposed to take us to the other boat. While we on this boat and Pablo's friend, who I'm pretty sure was a sex worker, which is no shade, because sex workers work. But I think she was there to do things that we didn't know. We thought she was gonna serve some drinks, but she, I think she was serving other things.

• 16:56Laci Mosley?

  And um, so we get on this boat and then we notice this group of other people that were waiting on the curb, get on the boat too. And they're like, don't worry, we're gonna drop your party off first. Why are we on this boat driving around the damn ocean for like an hour?

• 17:10Speaker 06

  And it's the shuttle boat.

• 17:12Laci Mosley?

  The shuttle boat. And all of this, I guess, is because we, when you rent out a boat, you can't have more than twelve people on it if it's a commercial thing. If it's private, then it doesn't matter. So we're driving around and I noticed that like the maritime people. What are they called? Coast Guard? They're like out and their boats have lights on them like police cars. So when they, when the tugboat that we were on would see the police boat, they would turn the other way. Yes, and keep driving. So suddenly, we see the boat. They're like, there's the boat that's your boat. That's the boat that we're about to get on. Okay. Then they're like, okay, now you have to get on a smaller dinghy boat to ride over to your boat. And I was like, what?

• 17:57Speaker 06

  Oh, I don't. This is starting to feel unsafe.

• 17:59Laci Mosley?

  Because it was very unsafe. It was extremely unsafe. I literally, okay, so at this point, I was like, turn this bitch around. My friends can just come kick it at the mansion and we'll have our dinner tonight and fuck this. Like, fuck this. I'm, I'm ready to bail. I know it's a scam. It's only gonna get worse. I was like, fuck it. My friends are like, we have come this far. We are going to get on this dinghy boat. I was like, it's choppy out here. And the boat was very tiny. It was like, you could only fit three people on it. And why, I'm telling you, it was so choppy, I was scared I was gonna fall in. They put me in a life vest.

• 18:34Speaker 06

  Wait, so three of you would get on at a time and be shuttled from one boat?

• 18:38Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 18:39Speaker 06

  From boat one to boat three?

• 18:40Laci Mosley?

  Yes, so they stuck me in a life vest, bro. I was crying a little bit. I was so upset. So, I get on, I get on this dinghy. He says, three people at a time. Why do I get on this dinghy? And he said, three people, right? Pablo then, so imagine sitting on a bench and there's two people sitting on the bench, right? And there's steering wheel in the middle of the bench. Pablo climbs over us and stands in the middle of us, stepping on my feet in this little tiny dinghy boat, driving it over to the main boat. Then when we get to the main boat, he throws rope at my friend Edgar, who was on the dinghy boat with us. And he doesn't even ask. He just throws the rope at him and is like, tie that up. And he's like, I ain't no motherfucking sailor.

• 19:25Speaker 06

  This is wild. I just had a laid back night at the Haynesworths. There was a pasta salad.

• 19:35Laci Mosley?

  I was getting smuggled across the Pacific.

• 19:38Speaker 06

  This sounds like a kidnapping.

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  It was. When we were on that boat Pablo came out with some champagne on the, on the first boat. He came out with some champagne like, here you go guys, like turn up, it's gonna be fun. We were like, what? So then, once I take the dinghy boat, I was like, absolutely none of my guests are gonna do this. This is ridiculous. Take this boat back, dock it, and let them walk on, or let me get off. Like, I was over it. So finally, I guess they could dock the boat. And they dock it, and the guy on the boat was like, Pablo lied to us. He told us that it was only gonna be 12 people, and it's too many of y'all. And I was like, well Pablo lied to us. Like Pablo lied to everybody. Mind you, Pablo's not on this big boat. He's somehow disappeared on his dinghy boat. We don't know where Pablo went. We parked the boat.

• 20:20Speaker 06

  Pablo?

• 20:21Laci Mosley?

  Pablo is a wild dude. Then, we parked the boat. And the guy who's the captain of the actual boat sees my friends on the dock. And he yells over the side, and he's like, get on the boat, go, go, go!

• 20:35Laci Mosley?

  He's like, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, the tow car's gonna see us. All these people are like smuggling onto this boat. And the boat was not reflective of the photos. It was, oh, it was big, but it was tragic. It was just the, one of the worst experiences.

• 20:53Speaker 06

  How long were you on the big boat?

• 20:55Laci Mosley?

  So, we got to the big boat. We're supposed to be on for four hours. But by the time we got there, two hours had passed, and I didn't wanna be on that damn boat anyway. So I think we were on there for maybe an hour, and then we got off, and then we all went home and got ready for dinner.

• 21:07Speaker 06

  Did you have to take the little dinghy three at a time to get off?

• 21:10Laci Mosley?

  No, they parked the boat at the marina. I was, I was, I was vehemently at that point. I was like, I will hurt you people. Like, we are not getting back on this dinghy. I will not die today.

• 21:21Speaker 06

  What are you talking about, Lacey? This doesn't, this doesn't happen to people.

• 21:27Laci Mosley?

  It happens to me. I am a magnet.

• 21:32Speaker 06

  That's wild. That's wild.

• 21:35Laci Mosley?

  I am an agent of chaos and I've learned to accept it and just receive it. But it was very upsetting because I was really excited and looking forward to this yacht moment. Everyone's in white. They look so good. We're gonna take these photos. We're gonna turn up. And instead, it was this embarrassing scam that kept giving. Oh, also, so then Pablo somehow returns to the boat. I guess he got back on the dinghy, comes to the boat. And I had a tip, like a $500 tip for the boat captain. Somehow my assistant sees Pablo and gives the money to Pablo. Then he hops back on his dinghy boat and speeds away. And I was like, what? We should have gave that money at least to the smuggling boat captain, not to goddamn Pablo, who put us, made us through the middle passage like we were slaves.

• 22:20Laci Mosley?

  Like, it was terrible. And then Pablo had the nerve to hit up my assistant the next day and say, "Oh, you and your actress, y'all should come. I have a huge boat party today. Lots of celebs. We'll have fun." Pablo, I ain't never getting on nobody's body of water with you, ever again. The audacity to think that I would.

• 22:37Speaker 06

  Well, happy birthday.

• 22:41Speaker 06

  That's, yeah, I've never... I've had some pretty wild times. And that one gives me a, that's, it gives me a run.

• 22:49Laci Mosley?

  Yo, I'll post pictures of Pablo, of, I think her name was Irina, the sex worker who slash waitress. Like, I'll post photos of me in the life vest. Like, y'all see everything, cuz it was, it was a time. But guys, we're gonna take a quick break for some non-scam advertisements. We'll be back for historic hoodwinks. Scams!

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• 25:07Laci Mosley?

  And we are back. Guys, that was a wild one, right? I don't know why. I think I stayed for the scam for you guys. I was like, at this point, we're in so deep, let me get some photos, let me talk to the congregation about it. Thank you for letting me get that off my chest, Chris. I feel like I'm in therapy.

• 25:26Speaker 06

  Oh, I get that a lot from people.

• 25:29Laci Mosley?

  So, historic hoodwinkings, this is my favorite segment of the podcast. This is where we're going to talk about a famous crime or paper, new, old, past, present. We'll see, maybe it's a group of people, maybe it's one person, maybe they're good, maybe they're bad, we don't know. We'll figure it out along the way, we'll let you know. This one is, this episode is so meta, like, I totally very meta story about how I got scammed, Crystal, his stories about he got scammed. And now we're going to talk about podcasting getting scammed and we're both podcasters. So you know, it's very meta episode. Sometimes you need those guys, real world. So the high studios hype house was supposed to be every podcaster's dream. A haven for creators to work, record, and even live, all supported by a network more interested in investing in their independent podcasts than selling ads.

• 26:14Laci Mosley?

  However, it ended up being a drug fueled frat boy nightmare almost entirely because of its CEO, Peter Vencer. Hmm. So question, Chris, you're very familiar, not even familiar. Like this is what you do with podcasting. So this is Peter Vencer. He looks like a bad guy.

• 26:38Laci Mosley?

  He looks like the guy who's at the bar talking to a girl who's probably over served. And he's like, don't you want another drink? Like he looks like that guy.

• 26:46Speaker 06

  Yeah. And this, I wonder what the context of this photo is. This looks, this looks like a bad person trying to put his best foot forward for a photographic purpose, but it looks like he yelled at someone right before the photo and he will yell at someone right after the photo.

• 27:00Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. He was like, make me look like a nice guy. And then he took the photo and then probably threw something at someone like he's, it's just giving bad guy energy.

• 27:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, he kind of looks like a direct cross between Mark Cuban and Michael Rappaport.

• 27:15Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's a bad, that's accurate as fuck and also a read.

• 27:20Speaker 06

  This picture you're showing me, I actually feel really proud that I nailed that because

• 27:23Laci Mosley?

  God damn.

• 27:25Speaker 06

  I think that's right on target, what I just said.

• 27:27Laci Mosley?

  Guys, remember what Chris said, because when you see this photo, you're going to be like, wow, what a genius. Cause that's, that's it. That's literally it. It's Michael Rappaport and Mark Cuban as one man terrifying. So if you do podcasting, we'll like break down podcasting a little bit. Y'all hear us reading ads, personal experience, or you'll hear ads played on our show. That's how we keep doing this so that it's free for y'all, which is why I'm always like, if you got critiques of my motherfucking show, it's free bitch. I don't want your critiques. Now, if you have some insight or information, I'll take that. I love when the congregation pulls up, but if you got thoughts, honey, keep them thoughts. Okay. Cause I'm not Okay, but but so this is how you pay for a podcast is like you get ads. So the fact that they're not interested in the thing that makes podcasting money is a big red flag.

• 28:13Laci Mosley?

  That's like if you worked at or like if you made a clothing store and you were like, yeah, we're not really interested in clothes though. You know, we're more vibes here. We got mannequins, we got hangers, we got, you know, like we're just more of a vibes clothing store. And it's like, well then how y'all gonna make money? Like you're missing the thing, which is clothes.

• 28:32Speaker 06

  But also any artist or creative person who's told, hey, this is all about um supporting you and your creativity and not about the corporate side of it is going to going to want to be a part of that. If you if they're saying we can give you enough money to support yourself and it's not about the ads, it's about your work. People are prone to fall for that. I would have fallen for that earlier in my career.

• 28:53Laci Mosley?

  Absolutely. But now that I know how the butter gets made, I I know that that's impossible. And if someone tells you that, you have to be alarmed. Be like, wait a minute. So Peter Vincent and the setup of Hi Studios. Okay. So what might have once been seen as a niche industry, podcasting now spends billions annually in acquisition of some of his most recognized names in the world as talent. Cause like now you got Joe Rogan, who was like the fear factor nigga, right? Like he used to make niggas eat worms and now people listen to his every word. And I'm like, bro, this is the man who made people eat cow dick. Like, why y'all talking to him?

• 29:28Speaker 06

  And yeah, when like his opinion on vaccination, I feel like he's good about being like, I'm an idiot, but he'll still say, don't get vaccinated. And then people do it. And you're right. Like he's also a guy who convinced people to eat live scorpions on TV. So it's weird that people go, yeah, his medical advice should be trusted. Anyway.

• 29:44Laci Mosley?

  It's so bizarre. I'm like, y'all don't remember when he used to make people lay in worms? Like, that's not the man that you should be talking to about your vaccination status. Like, what? Come on now, just because you're qualified in one area doesn't mean you're qualified in another. It's just like what we do with billionaires. Like as soon as you're a billionaire, now all of a sudden, all your opinions are smart. Like, okay, just because Bill Gates may control all the league doesn't mean I would let him do open heart surgery on me. He's not a genius in every field.

• 30:12Speaker 06

  What I love about this, Lacey, is that you are giving credit where it's due. And you said Joe Rogan's not qualified to talk about vaccinations just because he is qualified to make you eat a live scorpion or lay in a big garbage pail full of worms. So you're saying he is qualified to do that?

• 30:27Laci Mosley?

  Oh, he was very competent at Fear Factor. He got the girls to eat the bats and, and you know, crunch on the cockroaches. Like, he was very talented in that realm. But everything else, all this world opinions that he has, I'm like, we can curtail that, guys. Come on now, like, we need to. So now podcasting, obviously, is something that makes a lot of money, right? In 2019, China's largest podcast and audio platform, She Malia, She Malaya, excuse me, launched a US offshoot called Himalaya. Okay. When they first debuted, their largest draw was the sheer amount of money that they offered boasting a supposed $100 million investment from their parent company and others.

• 31:09Laci Mosley?

  Peter Vinter had recently joined VP of Global Marketing and Partnerships and spent his time boasting the $100 million figure pitching to podcasts and podcasters on the idea to help sell shows and ads and take a cut of the sales made. Like, so what's different, like greatly from more common models of podcast networks selling ads for podcasts, but otherwise not offering significant financial support? So basically, normally, ads are the bread and butter and they don't give you coin unless you get what we call like a minimum guarantee, which basically is like, oh, you'll make this much money making a podcast, but if you don't sell ads to make that money back, then you don't get anything else. It's like a 360 deal in music, like where, oh, you can have a chain and a house and a music video,

• 31:54Laci Mosley?

  but until your record sales pay that off, we about to T L C your ass. You know what I mean? Like, they're about to rob you. So that's the normal setup. And now they're coming in being like, we just gonna give y'all money. Like, that's it.

• 32:07Speaker 06

  Which is what all podcasters want. And Lacey, you and I have actually been on some group emails where people have expressed wanting that, but it's not a real thing in the industry so much. So I'm interested to see what all big chin Peter has to do with this.

• 32:22Laci Mosley?

  Right. Peter got the crimson chin.

• 32:24Speaker 06

  He has a very prominent chin.

• 32:26Laci Mosley?

  Look, I said, I'm not trying to chin shame. Some of us got more chin than others, but this man looks like a bad dude. So we're gonna talk about his chin a little bit.

• 32:33Speaker 06

  He has as much chin as I have forehead. So I'll, right there, I'll put it back on myself.

• 32:40Speaker 06

  I'm not out of your chin, Peter.

• 32:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. So Vencer says that High Studios was a place for his entrepreneurial spirit to have more freedom. There were potentially other reasons why Himalaya would want to distance himself from him. So basically, he was like, oh, I can have more freedom here. This is why I want to do this. I want to help out Himalaya, find, you know, Westerners to do podcasts. Richard Saylor says, he's just a bad guy. And unfortunately, he's a bad guy wrapped up into this magnificent personality. You know what that tells me? He's tall. Whenever a white man is tall and has a full head of hair, they call him charismatic.

• 33:18Speaker 06

  Tall. You think tall is a key factor here?

• 33:20Laci Mosley?

  They're like, he was just so tall and he had so much hair and, and, and that made him personable.

• 33:27Speaker 06

  Well, I'm five foot seven and my hairline is getting worse with each passing day, so you can trust me.

• 33:32Laci Mosley?

  Yes. So Vencer is known as a stereotypical partying suit. He is disrespectful, hard to work with, and allegedly would do coke, drink to excess, and hire sex workers regularly while on his work trips. I don't think hiring sex workers is a bad thing. That's fine. Um, people do cocaine. Uh, you shouldn't drink to excess, but you know, the combination of this gives us a very good idea of like the Wolf of Wall Street, Leonardo DiCaprio, beating on my chest asshole, like yelling at waitstaff kind of guy. So this behavior occurred before his high studios hype house was fully launched. And if you don't know what a hype house is, it's like something that's developed after Tik Tok where like people will be influencers and then live together in a mansion, like a lot of them, like 511 of them.

• 34:17Laci Mosley?

  So that they can afford the mansion, but also they can have mansion vibes, even though they can't afford a mansion on their own. Cause they're all influencers. Like that's what a hype house is.

• 34:26Speaker 06

  That's weird, but I mean, I'm in the world of podcasting as are you, and there's all different types of podcasters, but in general, this is not a lifestyle that lends itself to hype now, hypeness. Like it's

• 34:40Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, I'm just pretty hype.

• 34:42Speaker 06

  You're pretty, you're at the far hype end of the podcasting spectrum, but the cliche is like a bunch of nerds sitting behind microphones. Like this is not, this doesn't exactly scream like in-ground pool, jump off the roof, like blast a bunch of rails. Like it's not exactly the lifestyle. It's not the Jake Paul lifestyle.

• 35:02Laci Mosley?

  Get on a microphone and talk about a missing white woman.

• 35:05Speaker 06

  Yes, talk about true crime or like, here's some things you might not have known about Napoleon. Like that, this is not, I'm very confused as to this.

• 35:13Laci Mosley?

  But you're like coked up. Listen, did y'all know Napoleon was that dude? Listen, let me tell you about motherfucking Napoleon. Can you imagine?

• 35:19Speaker 06

  He wasn't even that short. He wasn't even that short by the standards of his era.

• 35:24Laci Mosley?

  Justice for my nigga Napoleon. Like, can you imagine if people got on the mic that hype to talk about those fucking like true crime or historical podcasts? I would die.

• 35:33Speaker 06

  Instead of drunk history, it would be like coked out history. That would be actually a very pleasant show to watch, I bet. Coked out history would be an amazing sequel to drunk history.

• 35:42Laci Mosley?

  Right. The, the information would come at you fast.

• 35:45Speaker 06

  Like, yeah, Thomas Edison had all these fucking patents, but you know how many of them he actually stole from the people who worked under him? And he just slapped his fucking name on them.

• 35:50Laci Mosley?

  Thomas Edison is a thief. Fuck that bitch. Anyway, like. It would be insane and I would live for it. I would live for it. So some of this behavior that we're talking about occurred before his Hype House was fully launched, according to later statements, but it's barely the tip of the iceberg. So the Hype House, because Hi Studios' main office was a WeWork space in Texas. Oh, WeWork, we know that's a scam. We don't work. So they were in a WeWork in Texas. Vencer ended up renting a seventeen thousand dollar a month mansion in the nine oh two one oh zip code as a work slash live space similar to the Hype House. The original Hype House is similar to the LA-based mansions to like Gen Z TikTokers that I just talked about, right?

• 36:31Laci Mosley?

  However, the idea of LA-based luxury, and now you can see right here, is a picture of like a Hype House. They got a logo in the pool. They got views of the city. It's, it's like, what do you think about this, Chris? I think that, I don't know.

• 36:48Speaker 06

  I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean, you got, you got a lot of tropes here, right? You got a guy in, you got a cool guy in a hoodie. You got like a guy, you have like a tall white guy in a hoodie and a flat brim cap that who I'm, I'm looking at this guy and I'm going, he looks, I might bet is he's Canadian. You know what I mean? He's got that vibe of like, um, like Canadian white hip hop guy in a hoodie. Or you've got the guy all the way over here to the left who has the tuxedo jacket with the white t-shirt underneath.

• 37:15Laci Mosley?

  What is this party? Cause everybody's dressed for a different event. I got a girl in a club dress. I got a girl in a gown that goes to the ground. This other girl is sequins and shit. What, nobody understood the assignment or like the teacher didn't make it very clear because everybody showed up. There's a man over here in a jean jacket and like then it's a girl in booties. Also, what is the weather? Cause some people look cold. Some people ain't got no clothes on. What?

• 37:41Speaker 06

  That guy's jacket, the denim jacket seems to have maybe even like a fur collar, a fur lining and then.

• 37:46Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's sheepskin. That's sheep wool.

• 37:49Speaker 06

  Off to the left is a guy who's dressed like he's about to teach a salsa class. So it's a very ill-defined Hype House.

• 37:55Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it's like the gumbo of Hype Houses. This is just come, come as you are. I'm like, sis, where is everybody going? She going to the Emmys later. She going to the club. She going to bed. Where?

• 38:07Speaker 06

  Do you think all these people host different shows on the Hi Studios network and that these clothes reflect their?

• 38:13Laci Mosley?

  Their energy on their podcast. Like the one in the gown, she does a bachelor podcast.

• 38:18Speaker 06

  Have you ever been in an environment built for podcasting where anything, I mean, because this feels like people trying to be cool. But if you put, like, I've been to podcasting festivals and if you put all the podcasters around this pool, it would not even look. It would, this is not, this is not real. This, this is the actual, is this, this is the actual High Studios Hype House right here?

• 38:42Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 38:43Speaker 06

  Yeah, this does not look, not all of these people are professional podcasters. I can say that. Having been in this space for years.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  And listen, it's like every other profession. Once you become an influencer, you get enough followers, you can do anything. And I'm going to absolutely do that. I'm gonna start selling grills. Yeah, I'm gonna George Foreman. It's gonna be the Laci Mosley Grill. It's probably just gonna be the George Foreman Grill with my logo over it, but you know, I'm gonna make anything. I'm gonna start making refrigerators. Why not? Why not?

• 39:14Speaker 06

  I could see it. I could see you having a whole empire.

• 39:17Laci Mosley?

  You know, I've just always been passionate about keeping things cold, you know? Outside of acting, I really love keeping things cold. And so I came up with some fridges. Like, what?

• 39:27Speaker 06

  That T-shirt that you saw that you see every, keep it cold, right? That's your, isn't that your?

• 39:30Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, keep it cold. It's my passion. So with two state of the art recording studios, just two, I feel like if you had a house of people, you'd need more than two, but okay. So with two state of the art recording centers, a pool and plenty of space, High Studios and podcasters could hold events, record and host clients. On the surface, High Studios looked to be a thriving company throwing swaggy parties and creating a unique work environment. In reality, this was very much not the case as several of the network's most anticipated shows fell through and Ventor's already toxic behavior got worse. Duh. Of course it did. According to a lawsuit filed in 2020, at least four former high studio employees allege inappropriate workplace behavior involving cocaine and sex workers,

• 40:14Laci Mosley?

  as well as being subjected to abuse, ridicule, and sexual harassment, which ultimately led to their wrongful terminations. Wow, so he was firing people after they were like, hey, bro, like, can you, can you get out of the studio? We're trying to record it and you're doing cocaine off of this, uh, this employee's body. Like, can you? We, um, hello?

• 40:35Speaker 06

  Right. Do you think you can keep it down, perhaps? I have a podcast about pop culture topics.

• 40:41Laci Mosley?

  Right.

• 40:42Speaker 06

  We need some quiet. And then he's like snorting rail while eating sushi off a naked body.

• 40:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. He's like, woo, podcasting, woo. They're like, bro, podcasting actually requires a lot of quiet. Can you?

• 40:54Speaker 06

  One of the central things for the audio medium is consistent quiet, sir.

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  We can't be screaming and doing cocaine every day.

• 41:04Laci Mosley?

  He just got into the wrong industry. He should have got into the music industry if he wanted to be yelling this shit. You can't do that in podcasting. They're like, look, we're over here breaking down the best of Nailed It. We, we over here talking about 90 Day Fiance. We can hear you screaming and doing cocaine. He's like, if you don't fucking like it, get the fuck out, okay?

• 41:23Speaker 06

  I want to know what shows were on this network.

• 41:25Laci Mosley?

  I do too.

• 41:27Speaker 06

  I wonder if he was picking them all based on trying to corner some sort of like bro-y, party, like Fire Fest-y vibe? Or if they were just like, I get to live my audio dreams and he was screwing everything up.

• 41:40Laci Mosley?

  He's giving Fire Fest.

• 41:41Speaker 06

  He dreams of throwing Fire Fest, right?

• 41:43Laci Mosley?

  Some more examples of Vencer's behavior. When looking to hire a studio manager for the company's hype house, Vencer gathered team members around the computer and clicked through LinkedIn profiles of women, asking aloud how big their breasts were and whether they were attractive. All right, Peter.

• 41:59Laci Mosley?

  No one can see your titties on a podcast.

• 42:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  Why should that matter? They.

• 42:05Speaker 06

  Nor LinkedIn, to my knowledge, nor is it a requirement to list or show your breast size on LinkedIn.

• 42:11Laci Mosley?

  No, they're not like, oh, where'd you go to college? Okay, where'd you get your masters? Cool. What is your cup size? It's not, that's not the, like, it's not necessary. You're a weirdo. So he also passed on any person of color, the lawsuit claims, because that wasn't the look he was going for.

• 42:32Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 42:33Laci Mosley?

  Wow. He said, we give an Arian over here, okay? We give a white supremacy.

• 42:39Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 42:41Laci Mosley?

  You've heard of the label Supreme, right? We give a white Supreme, okay? That's what, that's all we want. Wow.

• 42:47Speaker 06

  That's, it makes me wonder how this company lasted more than like three weeks. Cause this seems bold.

• 42:54Laci Mosley?

  Really? Oh, come, come on now, Chris. There's a lot of companies who are preserving whiteness and they, they are standing strong and tall and doing well.

• 43:03Speaker 06

  But to gather, to gather employees around a computer and go through LinkedIn profiles and guest bus sizes and then vocally, it seems like there's companies out there that I think have good intentions that pull shit like this because it's the culture. It's like culturally built in and this dude's not even trying to hide it. This dude's shouting about it to the hills. That's, I mean, I guess I am just naive, but that's like.

• 43:26Laci Mosley?

  Wild on cocaine.

• 43:27Speaker 06

  Pretty astounding to me, yeah.

• 43:28Laci Mosley?

  I think that it works because, also remember the medium. Podcasting, and when I first started podcasting, it was out of some rental house or I actually podcasted in WeWork for a bit. You know, i- i- it's this new medium that people don't really know the rules for. And he's doing it in a mansion where people are living and also working. So the decorum and the workplace aspect gets confusing when you're literally like talking about work and you're sitting like in a jacuzzi, like you're not in a professional setting. So perhaps he got away with some of this stuff because it was like, we not in a cubicle talking about LinkedIn titties, you know? We're by the pool talking about LinkedIn titties.

• 44:10Speaker 06

  It does make you realize he must have had pretty free rein over that hundred million dollars. Cause you have to throw a lot of money around to get people to go along with that.

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• 46:19Laci Mosley?

  So in March twenty twenty, Himalaya, which is the podcasting company that's a subsidiary of the Chinese company, publicly separated itself from Hi Studios because they were like, okay, this man is crazy. So Vince renamed Hi Studios to Notorious. Wow, for not liking black people, you're really hopping on our vibes. Notorious. So Notorious set the company up to-

• 46:42Speaker 06

  I think he only knew the Duran Duran song, to be fair.

• 46:45Laci Mosley?

  You're probably right.

• 46:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, he had no idea that it had ever been sampled.

• 46:49Laci Mosley?

  You're right. So Vince renamed Hi Studios to Notorious and set the company up to poach Hi Studios shows and creators and locked Himalaya and other former teams out of all accounts, drives and emails. Because Vince's name was on the house's lease, he made it a Notorious office and turned it into his and his family's actual home. So now he done moved his family in.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 47:10Laci Mosley?

  He said, this is my place of business. Also, there go my son. Like, what?

• 47:15Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 47:16Laci Mosley?

  So for additional context, Peter Vince has a wife and three kids. So he moved three whole ass babies and his wife. Mind you, he's been hiring sex workers. So I don't know how you gonna do that with his wife is in the house and his three kids to this home. So this is the decline. According to Norm Steel, a podcaster burned by Vince, when Notorious transitioned from Hi Studios, the house fell into disrepair. Furniture was destroyed, dog poop sat on the floor inside the house and trash, including baby diapers would linger in the driveway for weeks.

• 47:49Laci Mosley?

  So his wife must have been on the same type of time because I'm like, since you couldn't throw the baby diapers away in the trash?

• 47:55Speaker 06

  I just don't know if the hero of the story who I'm rooting for is a guy named Norm Steel. Like, you have to be a pretty bad dude, Peter, because that sounds like the bad guy. Norm Steel sounds like the name of the bad guy, not the good guy. Not the whistleblower.

• 48:09Laci Mosley?

  And somehow he isn't. It's fascinating. So Vince would also occasionally be passed out and shirtless in the living room when podcast guests were coming over.

• 48:21Laci Mosley?

  Imagine somebody be like, hey, come do my podcast. It's about pottery. And you come in and there's a half-dressed white man passed out in the living room surrounded by dog poop and baby diapers.

• 48:33Speaker 06

  And he's the boss.

• 48:36Laci Mosley?

  I don't mind him. That's our CEO. What?

• 48:43Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 48:45Speaker 06

  Oh, that's awful.

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  You know, you know how CEOs be, you know.

• 48:49Speaker 06

  Awful.

• 48:51Laci Mosley?

  So Steele says it turned into a personal haven for this middle aged man to relive his childhood. Since Notorious took over, there were also forty calls to the police about the home, mostly related to disturbing the peace. Again, podcasting, you need quiet. No one should be disturbing the peace. How are they making podcasts? What's happening? In addition to the state of the house, many of the creators that worked with Vencer said the company fell behind on payments or refused to pay it also. Now they're not paying people, they run out of money.

• 49:17Speaker 06

  Oh, you don't say, you don't say that that guy wasn't getting checks in the mail on time.

• 49:23Laci Mosley?

  One podcaster says that they were owed as much as seventy four thousand dollars and that Notorious ended up paying them out once they got a lawyer involved. Steele says his team is owed twenty five thousand dollars in back pay for advertisements that they read. Vencer says, so yeah, it took a little longer to pay early partners than I probably should have or wanted to. But he isn't aware of any current or former partners who he owes money. Other than Steele, who won't get a dime from him. It's unclear other than the allegations made later by Steele regarding the lack of payment. Why Vencer refuses to pay him. So like, so you're saying that you do owe Steele money, Vencer? Peter, you owe him money, but you're not gonna pay him?

• 50:02Speaker 06

  This is a battle for the centuries. I feel like there's a follow up episode about Norm Steele. And who knows, maybe Norm Steele catches wind of this. I'm not judging. This just sounds like a bad, Norm Steele sounds like the name. This is like.

• 50:15Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, it sounds like a porn name. Norm Steele sounds like he's probably laying the pipe like the Mario Brothers.

• 50:21Speaker 06

  But this doesn't sound like it's Lex Luthor versus Superman. It sounds like Lex Luthor versus the Joker. You know, this sounds like two people butting heads who have backstories.

• 50:31Laci Mosley?

  So Vencer is also allegedly accused of attempting to pay Steele in weed.

• 50:38Speaker 06

  That's awesome. That means he spent all the money on weed.

• 50:44Laci Mosley?

  And then he was like, here, you want this bag of flour? You want this bag of weed?

• 50:48Speaker 06

  That's wild.

• 50:51Laci Mosley?

  So since its decline, Notorious has pulled the focus to mostly marketing and content creation geared to TikTokers and LA influencers. So now he done made it a real hype house, which is what it should have been in the first place. Like, don't do podcasting. It's a quiet sport. You need to do something where everybody can be TikToking and stealing black people's dance moves and shit and profiting all of it. That's, that's the wave.

• 51:12Speaker 06

  So he was aiming to be like, let's fill in the podcast space of this culture.

• 51:17Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 51:18Speaker 06

  And it just descended into the mayhem of that culture.

• 51:21Laci Mosley?

  He thought he was gonna do the TikTok of podcasting.

• 51:25Speaker 06

  That's wild.

• 51:27Laci Mosley?

  So since its decline, Notorious has pulled focus to mostly marketing and content creation. Like we said, it maintains a handful of shows, once including Dumpster Fire, a podcast hosted by Fire Fest founder Millie McFarland from prison.

• 51:42Laci Mosley?

  Millie, how are you podcasting from prison? I love it, but like, it feels very white. Like, I feel like black people can't have prison podcasts. Like, what's going on? I don't like it.

• 51:55Laci Mosley?

  So that ended after McFarland was put in solitary confinement for it. Okay? It appears they conducted interviews on McFarland's allotted phone time. Once caught, he was placed in solitary confinement. So yes, he wasn't allowed to do a podcast from prison. He was just podcasting via phone. For, I love that for Billy. Billy's like, I'm not gonna stop scamming. Yeah, I'm in prison, but I'm gonna do a podcast, okay? At, at some point, it's gonna be like a collect call.

• 52:20Speaker 06

  I wonder how he thought he wouldn't get caught. You're recording a thing and releasing it to the world. You're-

• 52:25Laci Mosley?

  He's Billy. He's Billy.

• 52:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, the guy doesn't give a shit, huh?

• 52:29Laci Mosley?

  At all.

• 52:30Speaker 06

  He's kinda like a patron saint of this podcast, huh?

• 52:32Laci Mosley?

  He is. We honor him. You know, he is a criminal criminal. And I have held the Magnisus card. Like, I, I've seen Magnisus events. Like, I, I, I love-

• 52:42Speaker 06

  Have you had him on yet?

• 52:44Laci Mosley?

  No, I gotta see when they let him out of confinement. Absolutely.

• 52:49Laci Mosley?

  Absa-fucking-lutely. Absolutely. So, Vencer has also moved the company to a new location, a ten acre property called the Notorious Estate. However, this hasn't stopped the trouble following Vencer as his new landlord serves an eviction notice in April of this year. Look at this house.

• 53:06Speaker 06

  That is, that is cool.

• 53:09Laci Mosley?

  So, the other house was more modern. This looks like he done moved to like Pasadena or some shit. Cause it's like very kind of older decor. Um, but we are still seeing like these hype house people.

• 53:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  And they look influencery.

• 53:24Speaker 06

  There's two things that are jumping out here about me. One, impressive floor to ceiling windows. This is a very, very good window game. Also, candle mounts on the wall evocative of the Hollywood Studios Tower of Terror. Right?

• 53:38Laci Mosley?

  Ah. Yeah, it's giving like vampire.

• 53:45Speaker 06

  Also, what is that? The person in the hoodie? Is that person okay?

• 53:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I, I don't know. I, I would imagine not if they're in this house. It does look like they're drinking plenty of water, so.

• 53:58Speaker 06

  Everyone seems hydrated.

• 54:00Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, good luck to them. So, he had an eviction notice served in April of this year because they didn't vacate the property. The landlord has since filed a civil case against Vencer, asking him to pay damages of nineteen hundred dollars per day while he and his team continue living there. Vencer's old landlord from High Studios Hype House also filed a lawsuit against him alleging he failed to pay for rent and damages to the property. The landlord alleges that Vencer owes seventy one thousand nine hundred sixty seven dollars in rent from May twenty twenty until he left the property in March twenty twenty one. With the damages to the home totaling up to eighty three thousand dollars. What? How are you damaging a home?

• 54:39Laci Mosley?

  I mean, well, if you're on cocaine and you're drinking and you don't know how podcasts work, maybe, maybe you can accrue that kind of damage.

• 54:47Speaker 06

  One has to wonder why this man wants to keep doing this. I guess it's just until the check until those until the Chinese bank account cuts him off. He's gonna keep riding this.

• 54:58Laci Mosley?

  He's a scammer and I'm proud of him.

• 55:01Speaker 06

  It doesn't seem like.

• 55:01Laci Mosley?

  He's a bad guy though.

• 55:02Speaker 06

  He does. And it doesn't seem like he has any particular interest in podcasts.

• 55:06Laci Mosley?

  At all. He does not.

• 55:08Speaker 06

  It seems like this man fell into a bag of money, which he converted into a bag of cocaine.

• 55:14Speaker 06

  And you know what? God bless him for it. Have your fun while you're young. Have your fun.

• 55:18Laci Mosley?

  Right. Don't forget weed. He also converted into a bag of weed, which he tried to pay people with.

• 55:22Speaker 06

  Which is, you know what, though? There is a part of him that's going, you also have a wife and three kids, though. That's where that's where it turns from like, like charming scamp with an open checkbook to like real piece of shit, right?

• 55:34Laci Mosley?

  Like huge piece of shit. Honestly, for me, it was the racism and the sexism and weirdo hiring and.

• 55:41Speaker 06

  But those people are a dime a dozen. Yeah, it's his face too.

• 55:45Laci Mosley?

  From his face that he was gonna be a bad guy. How do you have evil face? I guess some people just have evil face. Like they're born, you just look at them, you know, they're gonna be evil. So Norm Steel is actually out here legitimately still podcasting.

• 55:58Speaker 06

  Sounds legit.

• 55:59Laci Mosley?

  First with Charlamagne, iHeart Radio, The Gangster Chronicles. So Norm, Norm probably don't need that bag of weed payment as bad as we thought. Like, he seems to be doing alright.

• 56:08Speaker 06

  Maybe he's not. I'd, before I said it sounded like two bad guys, but maybe Norm Steel is a quality human being who just wants his fucking money. Maybe that's what's going on.

• 56:16Laci Mosley?

  Maybe, maybe. Who's to say? And also, the house looked like it was in Pasadena, but it's in Beverly Hills. So, you know, it's still got a cute address, but it does look hella old.

• 56:26Speaker 06

  You are Los Angeles based, right?

• 56:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 56:29Speaker 06

  Have you thought about any, um, you know, get at the mobile rig, go knock on the door, do some on the scene reporting?

• 56:37Laci Mosley?

  I go, I go to the notorious house. I'm like, hi, I'm Lacey Mosley with Scam Goddess. That's also me. Uh, just wanna sit down and pick your brain a little bit. I would love to. This man, he's evil, but he's fascinating. So, all these, all these landlords are coming after him saying that he owes them money. And Peter Vencer says that this is being negotiated right now in quotes, but that he didn't only pay, I'm sorry, but that he only didn't pay the last month's rent because he wanted negotiation leverage. I didn't know that's how rent worked.

• 57:11Laci Mosley?

  Like you just don't pay it because you want to negotiate. I feel like, I feel as though that's not how rent works.

• 57:16Speaker 06

  I do feel like there is a traditional thing, though, of you gave them the first month's rent deposit, so you disappear on the last month, right?

• 57:24Laci Mosley?

  Oh, true.

• 57:25Speaker 06

  Or is that just a New York thing? If he puts down a deposit, he might just be acting like he's only been out of college for two years and he's vacanning an apartment, you know?

• 57:33Laci Mosley?

  True. Hey, so even with three lawsuits underway, Notorious Social Media continues to be highly active and appears to continue being a fun, active influencer playground. Let's look at Notorious's Instagram. How many followers do they have? So they have sixteen point eight K followers. That's decent. Broadcasting and media production company, okay? They have a lot of cool photos at this mansion. Looks like a lot of photos are taken at the mansion.

• 57:56Speaker 06

  These do seem, are these all different podcasters on their network? I've never been in a room full of podcasters who look anything like any of these people.

• 58:06Laci Mosley?

  I'm not sure. It looks like they've moved back into influencing, because this is a very influencer video. There's working out, there's cocktails, crowd surfing, Bud Light, a girl who's a DJ, but is also just very pretty and looks like an influencer. Wow.

• 58:26Speaker 06

  But what is that? That is a podcast.

• 58:28Laci Mosley?

  A new podcast. Emmy and Ian need help with Emmy Hartman and Ian Smith. Link to bio. Listen, rate and subscribe. Click on Emmy Hartman. Let's see what she about.

• 58:39Speaker 06

  And these people seem like podcasters.

• 58:42Laci Mosley?

  She has three hundred and seventy-nine K followers, so she's got a good following.

• 58:45Speaker 06

  Who am I to talk about Emmy Hartman?

• 58:47Laci Mosley?

  Right. I can say nothing about her. I mean, we ain't say nothing about you. We're just trying to see what's going on, sis. Okay, so they are still doing podcasts, I guess.

• 58:57Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 58:58Laci Mosley?

  So, guys, that wraps up Historic Hood Winks. Um, Peter Ventor's still out here scamming and looks like he's doing pretty well. So, shout out to his evil ass. Guys, it's time for the end of the show, the saddest part where I have to let Chris go. But before we do, we're gonna highlight one honorary charlatan. We may like him, we may hate him, we don't know yet. So more than forty-two thousand pounds of pistachios vanished from Touchstone Pistachio Company in California earlier in June. The company enlisted law enforcement to help them discover what happened and the Tulare County Sheriff's Office later arrested Alberto Motomayor, thirty-four, with his nuts.

• 59:38Laci Mosley?

  Soon as you guys did there. So Alberto had the nuts on him. He had a thang on him when they caught him. He's thirty four years old. Okay. So Montemayor had been hiding the nuts in a trailer in a nearby parking lot to repackage for sale. Nut heists have become more common, mostly due to their value relative to their size and lack of serial numbers, unlike electronics or car parts. Between twenty fourteen and twenty seventeen, more than seven point six million was lost in nut heists.

• 1:00:07Speaker 06

  Nut heists.

• 1:00:10Laci Mosley?

  Who's making that movie? We've seen the ones where they break into the Brink's truck, but like who's making the movie where they fight Mr. Peanut? And and take all of this shit.

• 1:00:20Speaker 06

  This is a real world that this is why I love the earth. This is why I love humanity. That there's a whole swirling world of there's and there's people who really have to care hard about nut heists. Who figure out how to stop them. There's people at the FBI assigned to nut heists. There's private security firms that nut harvesting companies hire to protect their nuts from the nut heisters. And it's out there and it's going on every day. And none of the rest of us give a shit about it because we don't think about nuts.

• 1:00:48Laci Mosley?

  Right. I just eat the nuts. I've never thought about where they came from, who heisted them, you know?

• 1:00:53Speaker 06

  You've probably eaten stolen nuts.

• 1:00:55Laci Mosley?

  We probably all have, and I love a good pistachio. Here's what I will say, though, like. Everything that grows on the earth belongs to the earth. And it's such a fake made up thing that people are like, I own this land or I own these nuts. Bitch, you don't own these nuts. These nuts were here before you. So yeah, steal them nuts. Everybody steal the nuts.

• 1:01:14Speaker 06

  This is bringing, I feel like there's a potential for a whole new connotation to the phrase these nuts. These nuts is your nuts. These nuts is my nuts.

• 1:01:22Laci Mosley?

  These nuts is your nuts. These nuts is my nuts.

• 1:01:28Speaker 06

  These nuts belong to all of us.

• 1:01:30Laci Mosley?

  These nuts were made for you and me, okay? Like, they're for all of us. So, it's currently unclear how Mucha Mayor acquired his pistachios, but these have previously used forged documents and companies to pose as legitimate truckers. So they pulling up like, ah, ah, here for the nuts. And really, they not supposed to be here for the nuts.

• 1:01:50Speaker 06

  Ah, fake truck, that's the nut scam.

• 1:01:54Laci Mosley?

  I love this. For everyone involved. I think I like this scam. Uh, Alberto, keep jacking them nuts. I don't want to see Alberto go to jail for nuts. Like, this feels ridiculous.

• 1:02:05Speaker 06

  See, but that, I feel like you just set yourself up because somebody's going to isolate the audio of you saying, Alberto, keep jacking them nuts. And it could come back to haunt you.

• 1:02:15Laci Mosley?

  That is a very good clip. Oh, wow. Well, Chris, we always ask on the show, where can people find you? Where do you want to be found?

• 1:02:22Speaker 06

  Where do I want to be found? Well, people can check out my new special, as mentioned up top, and I'm going on the road and I'll be doing like 25 different cities in the coming

• 1:02:32Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:02:33Speaker 06

  year, so chrisketh.com, you can get info on all that and ticket sales and whatnot.

• 1:02:38Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 1:02:38Speaker 06

  I'd love to see people. We'll eat some nuts, we'll eat some counterfeit nuts.

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  Yes, eat all the counterfeit nuts together. I love this for you and for everyone who's going to attend your hilarious ass shows. And guys, as always, if you want to snitch on your friends and family, [email protected], just make sure that your scam is retired. Pablo is not retired, guys, he's still out here. So maybe, maybe if you come to California and you rent a boat, look out for Pablo. Uh, he's very sweaty, constantly, so he's easy to find. Um, but if you want to find me, D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy, on all platforms, all episodes of Black Lays Sketch Show are streaming now on HBO Max, and I think there's six episodes of iCarly out right now. So, that comes out every Thursday on Paramount Plus. Thank you, guys, for supporting me. I love you congregation, stay scheming, stay nutjacking.

• 1:03:27Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. It's produced by Judith Cargbo, engineered by Marina Fais, and researched by Kaelyn Brandt. Stay scheming.

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