Is He Boyfriend Material? with Harry Jowsey

Harry Jowsey is here and he's not holding back! We have the reality TV star and podcaster join us for a wild conversation about everything from having threesomes with friends (does it make it awkward afterward?) to what he's looking for in a partner (or is he not looking at all?) to why he's faked orgasms before (yes guys do it, too). He defends his fuckboy reputation and offers advice to the ladies for how not to get love bombed, and we find out what he actually knows about women's bodies, from what we like in bed to what an IUD is for. And then we break down two juicy listener emails and decide whether the guys in question are boyfriend material. Before Harry joins us, we're offering advice for a tough situation submitted from a listener – her partner made plans to propose (still hasn't) and she's struggling with staying in the relationship. Enjoy! Follow Harry on Instagram at @harryjowsey and listen to his podcast Boyfriend Material. Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit girlsgottaeat.com for more. Thank you to our partners this week: Shopify: Go to https://shopify.com/GGE and start building your own empire today. ZBiotics: Get 15% off your first order at https://zbiotics.com/gge with code GGE. Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order at https://quince.com/GGE. Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions at https://rocketmoney.com/gge. Vegamour: Get 20% off your first order at http://vegamour.com/gge with code GGE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I've had personal situations where guys were like, you're the person I've been searching for forever. You're the one. And then you just-

• 0:05Speaker 01

  I'm gonna use that one. That's good.

• 0:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Stop. Harry, get the fuck out of here. I'm not telling you anything else. I'm not giving you any word.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  What else do they say? Tell me.

• 0:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  This podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome back to another episode of Girls Gotta Eat.

• 0:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Welcome back.

• 0:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Welcome. Where are you right now in the world?

• 0:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm 42.

• 0:38Rayna Greenberg?

  No, actually.

• 0:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we are recording this a little bit farther out.

• 0:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, because we have to go to Greece, but-

• 0:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, but we would have had a snack on Thursday.

• 0:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, second time I'm announcing my age. We did do a snack on Thursday, on the 10th. So we are off a lot this month, and I'm happy about it.

• 0:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Let us cook.

• 0:58Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what? This is so, this is like an episode in the middle of the month we are gonna do, just like, and it's perfect because it's hairy jousy, because it's like, it feels kind of fuckboy to like drop an episode and then be like, ah, we're out again.

• 1:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. So soak it up, because we are gonna take off Thursday and next Monday and- No, we, Rain and I never took time off, ever.

• 1:16Rayna Greenberg?

  For seven years.

• 1:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  For so many years, and then we would be like, looking at other podcasts, like, they're just off.

• 1:22Rayna Greenberg?

  They just get to be off.

• 1:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  They just get to be off.

• 1:24Rayna Greenberg?

  That's crazy.

• 1:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  So shout out to Dear Media for letting us do our thing.

• 1:28Rayna Greenberg?

  We really were the architects of our own demise, but we took a lot of July off. But I think it's funny to like drop this like little fuckboy into our one episode.

• 1:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I love him so much. I do want to say that.

• 1:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a wild ride. So you guys enjoy. And yeah, we'll talk about it a little bit more. But we are back in this, as of the 14th, I am back stateside. I just did my shows in DC, which I'm sure were insane. No, DC, I have so, we both have so much fun. One of our top five cities to perform in.

• 1:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm really sad. So my ex who lives there was like, I'm gonna go to Ashley's show. And I was like, oh, I'll come. And I was with Data Wise, and I'm bummed because I really want to be there.

• 2:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, well, he might have been there. Who's to say? Maybe he was making out with another one of his exes. You'd be jealous. You know, I'm still pulling for you guys. Mike, if you're out there.

• 2:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And Raina will be back, what, midweek this week?

• 2:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm in Paris right now. I'm on my way from London to Paris. I'll be back. I'm with Brittany and then I'll be back the 17th.

• 2:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I will be international this weekend in Toronto. Shows are sold out. Sorry, guys. Drake will be there. No, I'm really excited to do Toronto too.

• 2:30Rayna Greenberg?

  I wish I could come to some of these. I am going to come to your Boston show.

• 2:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Boston may or may not still be tickets available October 12th, but my whole tour, ash hast.com.

• 2:37Rayna Greenberg?

  And I'll be your LA show, obviously.

• 2:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Obviously. Okay.

• 2:40Rayna Greenberg?

  All right. Well, we're going to thank our partners and then we'll just get into it. Thank you to Shopify. Go to Shopify.com slash GGE and start building your own empire today and Zbiotics. Get 15% off your first order at zbiotics.com slash GGE with the code GGE and Quince. Get free shipping and 365 day returns on your next order at quince.com slash GGE.

• 3:01Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 3:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 3:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, oh, can't wait to talk about it.

• 3:22Rayna Greenberg?

  All the stuff you put in your body. Sweet Harry Jowsie, we just had so much fun with him and we had never met him before. We were like, how's this going to go? And we did his podcast also, Boyfriend Material. He had us on his show and we just.

• 3:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  That sounds insane.

• 3:34Rayna Greenberg?

  He's hard not to love.

• 3:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. Like you guys got to go listen to it. And he opens with asking, Raina, are we fucking tonight? I was just sitting there like, I, am I a cuck? And it just goes from there. He's so charming and hot though. I mean, I don't care. Who cares?

• 3:50Rayna Greenberg?

  I will say, I was watching an interview with Alex Cooper and him, she was on his show and she was saying to him, like, how wonderful it is to work with him and he respects everybody. He shows up on time. He does the right thing. And she was like, I didn't know before I got into business with you, like what this was going to be like.

• 4:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 4:04Rayna Greenberg?

  And you've been such a dream. And I was like, that is how I feel about him. What a dream as a boyfriend.

• 4:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. No, he really, as far as we know, he shows up. A lot of guys don't show up.

• 4:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Not if you're dating him, but.

• 4:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Professionally.

• 4:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Professionally.

• 4:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, women listening are like, he does not show up. I can't trust it enough. So we hope you guys enjoy. But you know, while you're maybe getting horny listening, we do have a little giveaway for you. Vibes only giveaway. So our whole summer collection, we're going to gift to two lucky winners. You know, we always give a few more out, but just right now we're allowed to do two. And you are going to get the KC Pulse Duo, this brand new butter yellow vibrator in its own charging case. One side has a thumping pulsing sensation. The other side is a standard vibrator. We're obsessed with it. It's so gorgeous. The case has a USB C charging port. So probably the charger that you already have for your phone or your laptop. So you never really have to worry about it dying on you and it's going to charge when it's in the case.

• 4:59Rayna Greenberg?

  And it looks like sunglasses in your bag. The sensation of this is really something I've never felt before because we have air pulse like suckers and we vibrate, but a thumper is just like this womp, womp, womp.

• 5:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so different. Yeah, it really, it really feels like you're fucking somebody. And later in the episode, just a spoiler alert, we do present it to Harry and get his thoughts on the, some of these new products. And then we have the Suck and Blow Gel Summer Cocktail Kit. That is our number one bestselling oral enhancer, penis and vulva safe in three mini bottles. And the flavors are margarita, pina colada and watermelon spritz. They're so delicious. They are flying off the shelves, but we have saved two at least for this giveaway. And they come in a little travel pouch that looks like Raina's shoes also. And then

• 5:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  you walked in, I was like, why are your shoes in the vibes only pouch? Catch me in those shoes. I would look so fucking stupid. You can only pull those off because you're five feet tall. I would look so dumb.

• 5:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Mesh shoes. I was looking at them like, can I pull these off?

• 5:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like a ballet flat vibe is not, not for me.

• 5:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Not the mesh ones. I mean, but I do have really ugly toes and you can see full frontal toe. I mean, it is.

• 6:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're like a little obscured.

• 6:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I know. That's how I'm trying to live. I bought them on Amazon. I've been buying.

• 6:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  They look really cute on you, but couldn't be me. And then thirdly, the baby blue kink links. These are our stretchy silicone handcuffs, just for some fun, light bondage BDSM play. People are obsessed with them. That's the third color we put out and probably my favorite. It's just gorgeous, icy baby blue.

• 6:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't know. I didn't know you wanted to do blue and I'm not usually a fan of blue.

• 6:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 6:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I love it. It's so beautiful. And we're going to be giving this away to two winners. Like Ashley said, so there is a post on our Instagram that is live. It's on Vibes Only, Ashley's and my Instagram. But you go to Vibes Only Instagram and just tag a friend and follow Vibes Only. And that's how you enter to win.

• 6:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and we're gonna end it Wednesday, this Wednesday, so that's gonna be July 16th at 11:59 PM Pacific Time, you know, on our time. So, end of the day Wednesday, and so if you're listening after that, sorry, but still go check out the post, throw it a like, but you have to follow Vibes Only, like Reina said, to win, and just tag a friend, and we're gonna, we're gonna choose a winner and get you guys the, the whole spicy summer collection. This is our spicy girl summer giveaway.

• 7:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. Okay. We just going right into this email? We're just going into this email? You know how much time I would save if I didn't ask the same thing twice, over and over.

• 7:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you think you do that? You're fit yourself?

• 7:15Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't think, that's crazy, you don't, okay, I send voice notes, and I'm like, these were six minutes long, and I will listen back and just like, I made the same point repeatedly.

• 7:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I wouldn't say that you're this long-winded.

• 7:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Thank you.

• 7:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, we had this email, we are really excited to dive into.

• 7:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to read it, I know, it's too long.

• 7:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  I will read it. The subject line, she wrote to us, "My relationship blew up in my face, now what? I've been with my boyfriend for five years. As of this month, I met him after getting out of a terribly mentally abusive relationship with an alcoholic, and he'd just gotten divorced from his somewhat high school sweetheart that cheated on him, he found out on their honeymoon, oof, and it was brutal for him. Everything was great when we met, we fell in love quickly, and next thing you knew, we were moved in together and talking about our future. I never wanted to rush him into marriage or kids, I wanted it to happen organically for us, but we definitely spoke towards that as a goal. I just never set a quote-unquote deadline, because that's just not me. Here's where it gets shitty. Two years ago, he asked for my dad for my hand in marriage, long story, but yeah, I know it happened. Last year, on my 30th birthday,

• 8:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  he gifted me a ring, designing kit, and we designed my dream ring. And now here we are, a year later, no engagement. I honestly just kind of blew up about it one day, and now our relationship is worse than ever. He says he's depressed, he doesn't know what he wants, etc., and I'm just stuck here. How long should I wait? Should I try couples therapy? What if he doesn't want to do it? I'm feeling stupid, insecure, like I've wasted five years of my life. Any advice or pep talk would be great. I love this man so much, and I don't know how this relationship just fucking turned one day to the next. We were so happy. Am I gonna be 31, starting fresh, trying to find someone to settle down and start a family with? Why does that sound so scary? XOXO." So, yes, and just, you guys have probably been doing the math, but, I mean, I think age matters a lot, and so she is 31 now, so they met when they were 26.

• 8:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I want to like validate her. I want to give her a little tough love so she can like name the elephant in the room. I want to give her a pep talk. I like want to do like, this is a really tough situation to be painted into because you like love this person and he's wonderful and I'm sure you look around and you see like what else is out there in the world and you're like, do I just stick with this because it's scary out there. But, you know, this man made a declaration to your family and to you that he did want to get married and he allowed you to believe that he wanted to build a future with you and he has seemingly changed his mind and you do deserve some type of explanation and he may not have changed his mind about you. He may genuinely be very depressed and unhappy and which case it is very hard to have a partner and prioritize them at all. However,

• 9:44Rayna Greenberg?

  "I'm depressed" is not really an answer for you about where your life is going. So you're allowed to be mad about it and anxious and not understand what's going on.

• 9:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, again, I want to be gentle too. Like, this could be the man you marry, but I don't think it's going to be right now. And I don't think it's going the way you you want it to go. Like, I think you have to think about the story that you want for your life. And I don't mean the story of meeting someone and that you tell people at a dinner party, you tell your friends, that's all just about appearances and what other people think and who cares. I mean, like, the story that you want to have, that you want to feel proud of, is it that I waited around for this guy, he asked my dad, he got me the ring designing kit, and then I still had to pressure him into this? Like, is this the story that you became the worst version of yourself and eventually he caved and proposed? Like, you have to look at what's happening in the relationship, you're not

• 10:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  being the best version of yourself. She's saying she blew up, doesn't sound like that's typical for her, and now the relationship's worse than ever, it just like turned. And, I mean, I think that he's probably a good guy. I don't know this guy, I don't have all the information, but he is like lost right now and he needs to figure it out. And I want to give him some grace because you met when you were 26 and he got married young and you're young, you're 31. Like, if we're talking about 37 year olds, 35 plus year olds, I'd be like, no. You know, I like, but they got together in their twenties. It's hard to figure your shit out, no matter your age. So I want to give people grace when it comes to that. But my gut feeling is that it needs to end. And she knows that, or she wouldn't be writing to us.

• 11:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I think she should prepare to get out of the relationship and be okay with the outcome before she even approaches the subject. And if she really thinks that couples therapy would work and that's her last ditch effort, you shouldn't be scared that he would reject that. Like, you're willing to do whatever it takes, but you're scared he won't. Like, you're scared he won't just pay a little money and go talk to a third party to try to save the relationship. Like, that would be huge to me. Like, I think that would be a huge test. Like, I don't know if it's quote unquote, "worth saving" and I don't know if a therapist could. I say that because I just don't have all the information and I'm not inside the relationship. So I have no idea. I would say that to anybody. But like, if that's something you think could work, you really need a mediator, you want

• 12:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  a third party, you want to figure out what's going on here, and you're just scared he would say no to this one last effort, is that the person you want to spend your life with?

• 12:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I couldn't agree with you more. And I think you have to name the elephant in the room, which is that he is stalling, for whatever reason. He did make a declaration that he wanted to have a future with you and he wanted to build a life with you, and he has changed his mind for whatever reason. But "I'm depressed and I don't know what I want" is not an answer. And that's really unfair to keep somebody in that limbo for so long. And I think you can comfortably say to somebody, hopefully, that you love, "Do you see yourself being ready to make this decision in six months? And would therapy help us get there?"

• 12:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 12:38Rayna Greenberg?

  You do deserve an answer. I mean, I think oftentimes, we don't ask questions because we know what the answer is going to be. We don't want to hear it. Then it's going to mean, "I am 31 and I have to go back out into the world and I am afraid of that and that is scary to me." And I think that you deserve to have that question answered. We all, we all do. It's not, and if somebody is really depressed, it's hard for them to give you an answer. I understand. I don't think he's like some terrible guy, but you also shouldn't live in this limbo forever.

• 13:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and I don't know what he's got going on. It sounds like he's probably got uncertainty in his job. And we all know, I mean, men typically want to have their shit together before they get Get married and for him, get married again. You know, like, who knows what he's got going on because of the way his first marriage ended. So I want to bring that into play, too. And she dealt with her own trauma with her previous relationship. But like, if he doesn't have his money together, I mean, he's just like, probably doesn't want to make the same mistake. And again, this isn't like apologizing for him. I know nothing about him. But I really think that there's like two outcomes here that she breaks up, some time passes, they realize they want to be together. And he gets his shit figured out and her leaving him, lights a fire under his ass and they get back together. Or she breaks up, she mourns the relationship, she's all fucked up about it. We've all been there.

• 13:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then she finds the person who, you know, next year, two years, three years, four years, five years down the road. And she's like, I can't believe I almost married that guy. I mean, at 31, I was with the guy I thought I was going to marry.

• 13:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 13:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  At what age were you? I mean, 27, you were engaged. So it's like, Rain and I have been with people that we loved, that we couldn't imagine not marrying. And look at us now. I mean, 31 is young. And if you want kids, I understand you feel like your clock is ticking. And she says she doesn't want to feel like she's wasted her time. And I can understand that sunk cost fallacy so much of like, I put in all this time. But if you were even questioning if you've wasted time, I think, why would you waste anymore?

• 14:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. I mean, the alternative to the two things that you're saying, like, is what? Just stay and slow bleed? You know, like, how, how long are you supposed to accept, I don't know? And yes, you, you will have to start over, quote unquote, but you're also getting unstuck. Because the only other solution is just stay and hope for the best. And yeah, if you're worried about wasting time, listen, we're not saying this won't be painful. It'll be really painful.

• 14:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 14:51Rayna Greenberg?

  And hard, it's hard to leave a person that treats you well and you love them and they're kind. And you've sunk so much time into them, but 31 is really young.

• 15:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, if you could be married with a kid at 35, that's still young.

• 15:04Rayna Greenberg?

  How would you rather spend the next year? Looking for a person who could be your partner or hoping this person will realize they want to be your partner?

• 15:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I mean, I don't know what she's done. I don't know if she just blew up at him and they've had a serious conversation. Like, have they actually had a conversation of like, I don't really know if I see a future here? And like, let's talk about it. Or again, the conversation that it sounds like they haven't had of like, should we explore going to a therapist? Like, she may still have more options before she rips the band-aid off because you also can't. You've got to be ready to go if you're going to go, if you're going to lay this out on the line. We talked about that with the ultimatum episode we did, but you know. You also don't have to listen to us at all. And you're gonna do you. And we've seen women wait around and it works out for them. And it's not what we would want and it's not the really that we would be in. So she needs to ask herself, what do I want my story to be?

• 15:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  And she may already know that, or she wouldn't email us.

• 15:59Rayna Greenberg?

  I think therapy is a great, I mean, you and I just got off an interview with Lori Gottlieb, who will be our guest in a couple of weeks. And I mean, she just, I mean, she's incredible. She's a psychotherapist, but she says things sometimes, like one or two sentences, and it totally reframes how I think about things and feel about things. And you might go to one therapy session and somebody will say a couple of things to you and your partner that will unlock a totally different way of communicating.

• 16:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 16:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Why, what's the harm in trying it for an hour?

• 16:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, yeah, why not? And I don't know all their issues, or even that they really have many. It could not work at all. But like, what I really don't like is that she has an idea of like a thing she might want to pursue as like a last effort and that she's scared he would say no. And that makes me think you are not fighting for the same goal, which is to be together.

• 16:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Man, that's tough. I really, I wish her luck. It's leaving a relationship where somebody is just, you love them is, that's the hardest relationship to leave.

• 16:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, and it's so much easier said than done. Like, you know, if you love something, set them free. If it's meant to be, they'll come back. I mean, whatever, it's so much easier said than done. But like, you are still young. Like, get out there and see what, if this is the guy you want to be with, how else would you find out? Because it doesn't sound like it's this.

• 17:12Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I mean, you could warm around for a little bit longer, but it doesn't sound like this feels good.

• 17:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 17:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, good luck.

• 17:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  But hey, it is out there, so.

• 17:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I would rather be.

• 17:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know where she.

• 17:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I would rather be alone for the rest of my life than wondering if the person that I'm with is going to give me what I need. What could feel lonelier than that?

• 17:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, and being in a house with. Somebody where it's going poorly. Like, again, I don't have a lot of conflict with my fiance. I really don't. But when we do have conflict and there is tension in the house for a short period of time, I can't like imagine if that was my all the time.

• 17:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I know.

• 17:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, I think about like my past relationships and not all of them, but you know, one or two that weren't great. And just like, oh, my God, like that feeling of just like tense and it's not the way you want it to be. And it's not the way it used to be. And you're tiptoeing around each other and you're not being affectionate or whatever. You're not joking or being silly the way you normally are. You're not having sex or you're not being this thoughtful. Like, and it just is like you're that's constant. Or that's really your new normal is like heartbreaking. And I'd rather be alone a million times.

• 18:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I totally agree with you. And I, I think a lot of people, I would say suffer in quotes, suffer from this problem of like, but it used to be so good. I don't know how we got here. Like, I don't know. Like, yeah, I mean,

• 18:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  So is the start of anything.

• 18:36Rayna Greenberg?

  It's death by a thousand cuts. I don't know. You got to know each other better. Life happened. The romance went away. I don't know. You, you have expectations that he can't meet any longer. You drew boundaries that didn't used to be there. We grow up, things change.

• 18:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And this might have come in before the episode of Erin Claire Jones. And listen to that episode, the human design episode, which was a couple of weeks ago now at this point with Erin Claire Jones. And this is a big theme of her book and our episode is figuring out how to make these tough decisions. And again, it's like, you're coming to us and we're going to offer you all that we can. But there are other ways before you decide to make a decision to even figure out what you should do. And I think that book is so great, figuring out the type of person you are and whether you're like a gut person or whatever. It's just very important. Because I think about the reel we posted where Erin asked that woman, do you want to marry him? And she said, no. And she'd never been asked that before, you know? So it's just like, I think there's tools like that that can

• 19:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  maybe help you navigate your own feelings.

• 19:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Just, I don't know, you don't want to look back on your life and think I had all the information and I didn't do anything with it. You know, I, my fiance left me. I would have never left him, but.

• 19:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, thank God.

• 19:47Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. In retrospect, it's the best thing that ever happened to me. And we would have gotten married and maybe had children, moved to New Jersey, which was what I thought we would do. And like, I, we would have split up anyways. Like, I know who I am today. And yes, I've created this business with you. And I'm a totally different person than I was a decade ago. But like, that was not my longtime partner forever. We would have split up anyways. And he, he did me a favor doing the thing that I like, would never have been brave enough to do. I wasn't happy, you know? And I guess I could have whomed around and married this person. But like, that's a lot of money and time to sink into somebody. For it to have the same ending it would have had anyways.

• 20:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, we could do a whole episode on this, the way it used to be type of thing, you know? Like, if we all stayed in that initial stage of a relationship, we'd all, I don't even know how to articulate this, like, then we'd be with that person. I, like, things change. Like, I, so many people get caught up in this, like, but it's how it used to be. It's like, yeah, things start great. You're pursuing each other. Most relationships do. That you have a bunch of like serotonin and there's a new person and the rush of all that. And it goes away. And the way you know if you're supposed to be with somebody is if you can be with them long term.

• 21:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Totally. Like, once that like rush goes, you'll never manufacture it again. You just won't. The, the excitement, the thrill, the amount of fucking you do with the first year, two years, you're not going to get it back. So like, what do you have now? You, you need friendship, you need support, you need consistency, you need somebody you feel comfortable saying, I'd, I'd like to fight for this and go to therapy. Because if he says to you, I'm not interested in fighting for this and doing everything I can, that's your answer.

• 21:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly. Yeah. I mean, and I've, I've heard various experts say, like, you really shouldn't tie the knot with somebody you haven't been with for two years. And everybody has a different barometer of that and people get married after a week and they stay together forever and that's just dumb luck. I feel like, no, it could be love at first sight, whatever, but I just feel like people change, things change, the hormones change, the excitement goes away and what are you left with? And that's how you know when you're supposed to be with somebody.

• 21:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, well.

• 22:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Good luck to her. I hope this wasn't too harsh. No judgment, whatever you decide to do, you can stick this out for as long as you want, but we're talking to you like you're one of our girlfriends and that's our advice.

• 22:10Rayna Greenberg?

  You are our girlfriends, all of you.

• 22:12Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 22:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  is way harder, like my hair is more dry, whatever. But the shampoo and conditioner, like I've been on this journey to find ones that really moisturize and nourish my hair and I've never used ones like this. I was using the best, what I thought was the best of the best. Price was like no issue and I finally switched to Vegamore and I was having dry scalp. I was like, what, I'm a dandruff girlie now? You know, like I couldn't figure that out. I was doing these oils. Like I was on this dry hair, dry scalp journey and this has fixed that completely. So I use a couple of different shampoos and conditioners. I use the revitalizing and then I use the other, just like, I don't know, regular hair one. And I also use the Grow Hair Serum. So it's so easy. You just do a few drops once a day. It's super lightweight. I promise you, you can use it right after you wash and

• 23:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  blow dry your hair. It's not going to make it greasy. It's a total game changer. They have this little roller that you can use that I have to just help it get into your scalp more. Your hair is going to be healthier. I truly don't know how I lived with all this. And the best results are going to come with consistency. So you can subscribe, get those jumbo sizes of everything. I really feel like it's worth the investment. If you are struggling with shedding or thinning or dry hair, I mean, this is even, well, they're, it's like a miracle. Like, I can't even, I cannot tell you guys, like, I will not travel without it. I carried on recently and I got travel bottles so I could do my Vegamour shampoo and conditioner and then also bring the serum with me. Like, I can't go a day without it. I would never. I had to bring it to Rainapalooza, even though I carried on. So I'm just obsessed and you guys can get on this too. If you are tired

• 24:22Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 24:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And something I need no talking points for is Shopify. So, I mean, people ask us all the time, like, how do I do my job? How do I launch my passion? Start a side hustle? You need tools. When you have an idea, then you need tools. So the best place to start and grow a business is Shopify. Ashley and I have always run our merch business through it for Girls Got to Eat. It is our website for Girls Got to Eat and it is what we use for Vibes Only, just start to finish. And when you get into Shopify, they'll help you build your own website. There's tons of different templates. If you just don't know even like what kind of vibe you want, they're gonna help you build the website. There's tons of plugins. This is how you're gonna react to your customers, whether you want to sell locally, globally. The analytics are fantastic. If you want to know what sells the most, at what time of day and what day of the week, they really provide you with

• 25:27Rayna Greenberg?

  all of it. Super user friendly. We love their customer support. I mean, I can't say enough about it. Just running your business through Shopify, I mean, there's nothing better.

• 25:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you aren't, what are you doing? What are you using? Don't talk to us.

• 25:41Rayna Greenberg?

  It's great on a desktop. Also, their app on their phone. I just love watching a lot of our orders for Vibes Only roll in and it is end to end how we manage our entire business. And there's tons of different plugins and apps. For example, Girls Got to Eat merch, we get from one company and then Shopify runs the business. So, can't say enough good stuff about it, you guys. Get ready to build your own empire, you know, whether it's merch products or the next best idea. Go to Shopify.com/GG and make it happen.

• 26:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 26:48Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 27:29Rayna Greenberg?

  All right, guys, we are very excited to welcome our guest today. He first captured our hearts and our vaginas on Netflix's Too Hot to Handle and has since become a reality TV mainstay with appearances on Perfect Match, Dancing with the Stars and The Amazing Race Australia and more. He brings his signature charm and unfiltered honesty to his podcast, Boyfriend Material, where he dives into dating, sex and relationships from a male perspective. Don't call him 6'4", he is 6'5". Please welcome to the show Harry Jowsey.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  Wow, vaginas?

• 27:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know that was coming.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 28:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Captured our vaginas.

• 28:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I just already captured our hearts, but you know, I just improvised.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  Sometimes you gotta ad lib, you're just gonna feel it. That's so fun.

• 28:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  You know, Harry Jowsey has captured your vagina when we were home for COVID. It was during COVID. I remember watching you during the quarantine during Too Hot to Handle. I was like, who is this little shit?

• 28:20Speaker 01

  And it wasn't so embarrassing? My nipples were bigger than my chest.

• 28:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you really were like, young, young.

• 28:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think I was like 22, isn't it? Or 21?

• 28:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, you probably filmed it when? In 2019?

• 28:30Speaker 01

  Yes, 2019. I remember we finished filming. And then I moved here in December because they don't tell you when the show is coming out.

• 28:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  And so you've got to like, kind of guess that like, oh, my life's gonna change. And it was like one of Netflix's like first reality shows. So like, we didn't know what the fuck was going on.

• 28:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Right.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I just like moved over and then hoped and then like started running out of money. And I'm like, hey, guys, when is this show coming out? Please?

• 28:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I moved here to be famous on TikTok.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, what is going on?

• 28:58Speaker 01

  And I'm like at the clubs, like telling all these people like, yo, my show's coming out. It's gonna be crazy. Like I met all like the Face Clan boys. Yeah. I was like at the club, I'm like, you know, my show's gonna be sick.

• 29:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I bet. Sure.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, like it's gonna be unreal. Like we're gonna wanna do like something together. And they're like, yeah, yeah, cool. Sweet ass. And then like all the like hype house kids and like, I promise, like I've got this show. Like, nice to meet you. I'm gonna be valuable to you one day.

• 29:19Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna have followers.

• 29:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  But isn't it funny? Like that show obviously took off. Season one, I don't think, I don't know if I watched it since, but it was kind of the same thing with like Love is Blind where, and I knew some of those people because it was Atlanta, season one, and they're out here like, I swear this thing's gonna drop and you guys are all gonna love it. And people are like, I bet.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  And they had to wait two years.

• 29:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 29:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Just stay with those people.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  Like, I know.

• 29:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you stay with Francesca?

• 29:43Speaker 01

  We, we tried.

• 29:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 29:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 29:46Rayna Greenberg?

  You did.

• 29:46Speaker 01

  I think. I, it was what?

• 29:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a blur.

• 29:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. You've dated a lot of girls. I get it. You're very charming.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  No.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  No, I have not dated a lot of beautiful women.

• 29:58Rayna Greenberg?

  That's true. They thought they had a relationship with you, but they were not.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Okay, that's, that's a good answer.

• 30:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's fair.

• 30:03Speaker 01

  No, I feel like I've had a lot of friends. Wait, what do those books say up there? That's crazy.

• 30:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop trying to distract them.

• 30:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, Harry, I get it. You are very charming.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 30:13Rayna Greenberg?

  You're like, it's disarming because you're so big and you're like, what's this guy gonna be like? But you are very charming and you have girl dogs.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  I know. And a little bloody puss.

• 30:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So your dog?

• 30:23Speaker 01

  There's probably no.

• 30:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, they're not.

• 30:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Without context, it's a little crazy.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Guys, my dog's on a period.

• 30:30Rayna Greenberg?

  We're like, we're not gonna, we're not gonna explain this to you.

• 30:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who has the bloody puss? Your, your dog has her period right now.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which you didn't know.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Well.

• 30:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Was a thing. And I, I've never had a girl dog, so this is foreign to me. And we really like your vibe because you seem like such a dog lover, but like, tell us what you're dealing with at home.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  It's insane. And the worst thing was, so like, I go on like these sober streaks. I don't have a problem, always have to clarify, I'm not a crazy alcoholic, even though it's something that an alcoholic would say. But I go.

• 30:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Does that suck? No matter why, whether you're an alcoholic or not, the answer is I'm not an alcoholic.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I, it's just like, I've gone these sober streaks and I'd like, promised myself on my birthday, I'm gonna get crazy with my friends. Cause like, my friends get really excited because like, it's twice a year that I'll get crazy with them. So it was my birthday, we had absolutely sideways, went to this medieval times thing. My best friend Dom surprised me with like, maybe, made us get in like suits and like drive an hour and a half.

• 31:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  To go to medieval times.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're gonna, I had no idea. And everyone's, I'm like getting there, I'm like, why are we in a castle? Why are they jousting? What, what's going on? Then we get there, we have fun, have this massive crazy weekend, karaoke in some girl's house at 6 a.m. doing, uh, High School Musical. And then I get home, obviously destroyed, hungover, sad. And I wake up like the next day at like 3 p.m. and there's blood everywhere. And I'm like, what the fuck happened?

• 31:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 31:49Speaker 01

  Who, like, am I, like, what, did I stab myself?

• 31:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did I get jousted?

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Did I get jousted? Yeah.

• 31:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Was it one of the knights?

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. I was like, did I, did I, did someone just like keep stabbing me while I was like sitting there, like enjoying my chicken with my hands? Did I know what's going on? And then it like, we went out again, like obviously I cleaned it up, I didn't just let, let it get crusty. Then I went out again and I'm like, okay, like I don't see anything real good. Then it's like Monday morning comes around, my housekeeper comes over and I'm like, still like, we had a weekend, we had a crazy weekend. I was like, Monday morning, I go to see, I was like, sorry Gabby, place is a mess. I'm really sorry that this is how we're starting our week. And she barely speaks English. So she's just like, okay, okay, Harry, haha.

• 32:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Haha. And then she like picks up the dog and then I just see blood just pouring out of her.

• 32:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tricking out, oh.

• 32:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, like a little faucet. And I'm like, oh no. What happened to her?

• 32:43Rayna Greenberg?

  She got joused in jail.

• 32:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, she got joused in. No, that's, no, it's my daughter. And then I had to explain to my dog that like, hey, you're becoming a woman.

• 32:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  This is a natural part of life. Um, and I'm really sorry that it's happening while I'm hungover.

• 32:58Rayna Greenberg?

  For you.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I wish I could like hold your paws and walk you through this and be like, look, there's gonna be some guys that are gonna feel a little bit freaky now and gonna try and mount you.

• 33:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh yeah, you can't let her go out the house.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  I will.

• 33:10Rayna Greenberg?

  A dog in heat, forget it. They get gangbangs.

• 33:12Speaker 01

  Well, that's what happens to me.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  I'm always in heat.

• 33:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Harry, when was your last gangbang?

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Well, actually, no, I haven't been in one ever.

• 33:22Rayna Greenberg?

  When was your last threesome?

• 33:24Speaker 01

  I've only had one.

• 33:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, can we talk about it? You just lied to your face. And I believed it.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  No, I've only ever had.

• 33:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Why would you even believe it?

• 33:32Speaker 01

  No, no, I've, I've, this is gonna sound hor- every time I say this, everyone's like, Harry, this sounds a little bit weird. I've only ever had one with two girls. I've had like eight with my best friend and a girl.

• 33:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, the same guy, the two of you go out?

• 33:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, do, do they do that?

• 33:45Rayna Greenberg?

  They said it on Call Her Daddy.

• 33:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wasn't that Call Her Daddy?

• 33:47Speaker 01

  Do they do that?

• 33:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, they said that they like fuck girls together. Is the same guy that you go out and troll for?

• 33:52Speaker 01

  No, I was like, like I've had different best friends throughout my life.

• 33:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, so I'm sorry for assuming it was just one person. What? You're like, ooh, Rain, I have friends.

• 34:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whoever the best friend is at the time.

• 34:04Speaker 01

  That we'll all have sex with together, but yeah.

• 34:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Sorry for assuming it was one person.

• 34:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  But one main guy?

• 34:09Speaker 01

  No.

• 34:10Rayna Greenberg?

  No, a bunch of guys.

• 34:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, sorry, all the best friend at the time.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  No, this is like, I've been having sex since I was 14 and the first one, I think I was like 17 at a house party with my friend and then we just, whatever.

• 34:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, why do you like MMF instead of MFF?

• 34:25Speaker 01

  I, I would love more MFF. I would, I would wholeheartedly welcome that with open arms.

• 34:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, here we are. That's why we brought you here today. I take my ring off.

• 34:37Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm just gonna hold the camera.

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  My fiance can't watch this one. He's like, you're really glowing.

• 34:41Rayna Greenberg?

  I am. It's Harry Jowsey's come.

• 34:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm not just like vibrant in the interview.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  No, I've been having these pills that make it like tastes really good, apparently.

• 34:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you take the pills and it makes you.

• 34:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can we table that? I want to get back to the MMF threesomes. Like, these are really hot. Everybody, it's a lot of people's fantasies.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  And.

• 35:00Rayna Greenberg?

  What, threesomes with two men?

• 35:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Two men, yeah.

• 35:02Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you feel like there's less pressure for you to perform because there's like another penis in the room?

• 35:06Speaker 01

  No, because it's like, fuck, like, who comes first? It's so embarrassing.

• 35:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, it's embarrassing who the person that comes first.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  It's a competition. Yeah.

• 35:13Rayna Greenberg?

  To see who can last longer.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess. And like, who's gonna make her happiest?

• 35:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can't tell if you're lying. When you, when you have these threesomes, does it make your friendship stronger with the guy?

• 35:23Speaker 01

  No, I'm not friends with any of them anymore.

• 35:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Afterwards. You have to break up with them after.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, like, I'm still, nah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest. A few of those guys, like, were still best friends, but it's been like since high school up to these days. It's just like, I think I'm a very free spirit and I don't care.

• 35:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love that.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  You get what you get. So it's like, oh, let's have a look. And then there's a girl that's in the mix and she's, she wants a little double sausage.

• 35:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  Then let's have fun.

• 35:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is it ever weird with your two dicks? Are you ever like, have you ever been surprised? Like, oh, he's so much bigger than I thought, or smaller, or like?

• 35:56Speaker 01

  You know what? I've actually never really thought about it because it's usually like we're drunk and it's like, oh, yeah, we're out having fun.

• 36:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, yeah.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  I've never gone, oh shit, whoa, your foreskin's a little bit longer than I actually imagined. Or why are your balls so saggy? I've never like stopped and been like.

• 36:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  But women would.

• 36:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I would. I would be like, you have great nipples. Like, I would immediately would be like, what's her pussy look like?

• 36:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I just feel like women would be like, oh, my goodness, your pussy.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  Well, the difference between you guys and me and my friends is we're all about the person.

• 36:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  We're not, we're not worrying about each other. We're just like, oh, my God.

• 36:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's all about her.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. Wow. Look at her labia.

• 36:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  You both are admiring her lady.

• 36:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you guys like rock, paper, scissors for who like gets to go first? Like, how do you, it's just like whatever happens, happens.

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Look, I haven't done one in years.

• 36:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you want to with me?

• 36:49Rayna Greenberg?

  This is fun.

• 36:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who's your best friend right now? Show us a picture.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  Oh, Dom, you know Dom?

• 36:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's the one that did Medieval Times.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, Dom Gabriel, you know him?

• 36:56Rayna Greenberg?

  We just talked about him.

• 36:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  From the show?

• 36:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, we'll talk to Dom and see what's up. And you have my number and we'll talk.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  We can do it.

• 37:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm only at a threesome with two girls and a guy, so.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  Wow, it's just so much more fun.

• 37:12Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, I was just so young and like when it happened, I just, it wasn't as fun as I thought it was gonna be. I think today I would be more fun.

• 37:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you have your first threesome like in high school?

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, we were like at a house party in a toilet.

• 37:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  In a restroom, you guys, um, and did it?

• 37:26Speaker 01

  In the bathroom.

• 37:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did it like make the rounds in school?

• 37:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz people were trying to kick the door in and film it. And I'm like, guys, boys are working over here.

• 37:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, we're, we're older than you, obviously, but like, I can't.

• 37:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Not obviously.

• 37:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, I mean, I'm 29, but like, I don't think I'd heard of people having a threesome in high school. Like, one girl did anal in my town and everybody knew about it. I mean, I lived in a small town, so it's just like threesome guys.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  No, I had, I had worse things going around about me in high school, so like.

• 37:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  You did?

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  STDs?

• 37:54Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, just.

• 37:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Cheater.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 37:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, let's keep saying stuff.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  No, I never cheated on Anakin.

• 38:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Anika.

• 38:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Anika, listen, Anika, if you're listening, we are not sure either, but Harry says he didn't.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  We're really sad.

• 38:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's sorry.

• 38:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Where'd you grow up in Australia?

• 38:10Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, Central Queensland, this place called Yopun.

• 38:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Which is, why you, it looks like you know where it is.

• 38:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  We've been to a few places, but not.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Where, where have you been?

• 38:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just to Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  Okay, so nine hour drive above Brisbane, there's this place called Rockhampton. Hour and a half or like 30 minutes now cuz there's a new highway. Yeah, towards the coast, it's like the beef capital of Australia.

• 38:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that like the Gold Coast?

• 38:34Speaker 01

  No, just higher, higher, Gold Coast is down.

• 38:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Of the beef.

• 38:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Below.

• 38:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, beefy coast, that's what, that's what they call us.

• 38:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 38:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  They grow a bag there.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then I got kicked out of the schools and I had to go to school in New Zealand.

• 38:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, really? What'd you get kicked out for?

• 38:51Speaker 01

  You know what? I just wasn't a good person.

• 38:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  I was like, we had, we'd make like chlorine bombs and we'd blow up toilets and stuff. And then like would have a lot of fights and then it's like the leadership camp and someone decided to throw a rock through another tent.

• 39:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Someone, was it you?

• 39:07Speaker 01

  Of course. And then.

• 39:08Rayna Greenberg?

  At the leadership camp?

• 39:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. And that to me, I was like, well, guys, who's gonna start a riot? Clearly a fucking leader.

• 39:18Speaker 01

  Clearly someone who has the fucking vision to number one, get everyone angry, risk everyone's lives, everyone's lives. I'm risk taker, but passionate leader. And it turned into like the most fun ever. And then all the teachers were drunk and trashed and they came down sideways, no idea what's going on. I was like, guys, you should have seen what the fuck just went down. People getting tackled, tents are getting ripped up. Shit was crazy. And then they pretty much helped me hostage in their office for like eight hours.

• 39:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause you were in trouble for being a leader.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  No, cause the headmaster was a bitch.

• 39:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you went to like a private school and they kicked you out?

• 39:51Speaker 01

  We did, yeah. I don't know, we, me and my imaginary.

• 39:54Rayna Greenberg?

  You have siblings?

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, five.

• 39:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Boys, girls?

• 39:58Speaker 01

  There's four women. Why am I?

• 40:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Are we making you nervous?

• 40:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think so. No, yeah, four sisters, one brother.

• 40:05Rayna Greenberg?

  But you're the only boy among all these girls?

• 40:06Speaker 01

  No, one brother.

• 40:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you have one brother. I thought you were the brother.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, five.

• 40:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  So six total.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  So do you, did you grow up that way? Just and you got to kind of do what you wanted? Like, cause there was too many kids for your parents to even like pay attention to?

• 40:18Speaker 01

  My dad was a serial husband, so he was throwing that sausage around in New Zealand before he met my mom.

• 40:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's where you got it from?

• 40:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, maybe.

• 40:24Rayna Greenberg?

  No, he actually married the woman.

• 40:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, he actually, he did, he did. He married the first one.

• 40:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  I think. I don't know. They were in New Zealand. It was a weird time. But yeah, four daughters. And then he did all home births, which was really crazy and incredible. And then, um, got this snip. Yeah, I was like, dad, fuck, I'm trying to deal with a dog period. I couldn't handle a whole child. Times four.

• 40:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 01

  And then I, he got the snip, then met my mom and he was like, oh, I should probably unsnip this.

• 40:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  And unsnipped? Your mom is that bitch?

• 40:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was. No, but she, he had to get it like, uh, surgery six times on it cause he couldn't.

• 40:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  To get it reversed?

• 40:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, cause they kept reading it as revision. So then for my brother, he was like, we're both IVF. So he, they got enough sauce for him, but for me, they didn't have enough sauce. So I had to do a world first operation. I forget if, I'm probably gonna say it wrong, but I believe it's called spermatic aspiration. They pretty much just gave up on trying to get anything and just put a needle in his nuts.

• 41:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  And pulled out whatever they could get.

• 41:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that's you.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  And that was me.

• 41:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're like a miracle.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  I know. And that's what I tell any girl I date. I'm like, you're, I'm literally him.

• 41:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is your brother tall?

• 41:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, okay. So it's like the, the.

• 41:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it would be funny if your brother was like five eight and you're like, you should have done that spermatic extraction or whatever the fuck.

• 41:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, straight out of the balls.

• 41:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's how you get the height?

• 41:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, he should have done that. Yeah. No, he's six, three, I think.

• 41:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. We're fine with that.

• 41:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Is your dad tall?

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is your dad hot?

• 41:47Speaker 01

  Uh, well, he's actually dead.

• 41:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God. Here, I'm so sorry. I like.

• 41:53Rayna Greenberg?

  We're not laughing at that. We're uncomfortable now.

• 41:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I feel so, I'm so sorry. And like we, I knew that and I'm really sorry. I think I'm gonna cry.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  Why?

• 42:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I just like, I feel we're like talking about your dad and he is passed and so rest in peace.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  It happens.

• 42:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  If yours haven't gone, you're next. Ha ha.

• 42:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  I deserve that.

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but you, you, you talked about it and you did a podcast episode about it.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you should.

• 42:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  I, that's what I'm saying. I knew this. I said, do you think he might want to talk about grief?

• 42:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Actually, Ashley did. She did know this.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  You're okay.

• 42:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  She knew it.

• 42:26Speaker 01

  It's fine. Don't say it.

• 42:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is your dad hot? No, he's dead.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's, he's in a jar.

• 42:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Quitting.

• 42:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, was he hot?

• 42:31Speaker 01

  I think he was a stud. Yeah. Cause he, he used to be like a carpenter and like a very like hard man.

• 42:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  And I'm just a bitch. So I don't know what happened.

• 42:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, all men today are bitches. You, I mean, you're 28, right? Like, you can't be masculine and be 28. That's tough.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  I, it's tough out here, right?

• 42:45Rayna Greenberg?

  They don't bring you like rough and tumble anymore.

• 42:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm still recovering.

• 42:51Speaker 01

  No, I promise it's so fun.

• 42:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  My, I, um, for example, to make you feel better, have you heard the game Quiplash?

• 42:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Mm-mm.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  So it's like a thing you play with your friends, you put on the TV, everyone gets their phone and it like asks like a series of questions. And then who, you don't know who's put the questions on the TV.

• 43:08Rayna Greenberg?

  I love this.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Or the answers, and then people vote on the funniest ones or whatever else. To make you feel better, first time I've hanging out with this friend group, one of my friends, I'm not gonna say his name because you'll probably get hated. The question was, what is the worst thing to do at a cemetery? And my, and my friend, no one knew it was him, no, no one could see, obviously I fucking knew, because I don't know any of these other dudes. First time ever meeting these guys, what not to do at a cemetery? He wrote, dig up Harry's dad. And I was sitting there, I'm like, I look at him, I'm like, there's literally no way you just wrote this. This was like a month, a month ago, so it was still like super, still pretty fresh. And I was like, there's no way you wrote this. He's a, he's a very funny guy.

• 43:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Very dark, since he.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  No, very dark, and that's fine, I love it, because like, that's the only way to deal with it, well, for me, anyway. Everyone was like, what the fuck, why would you say that? And I'm like, no, it's fine, like, we make jokes about it all the time, whatever else. And then he, because he was so kind of nervous and confused, he made it worse. He's like, yeah, sometimes when Harry's not looking, I open the jar and fuck it. I was like, what?

• 44:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Dude, stop.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  I was like, I was like, what are you saying? Everyone's like, wait, what the fuck is going on?

• 44:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I let you have a pass on that first one, and you're like, I'm gonna go harder now?

• 44:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Honestly, call the cops.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like.

• 44:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Bump my dad's ashes, were you saying?

• 44:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, this weird, my poor dad.

• 44:25Rayna Greenberg?

  You're like, wait, did you come in his ashes?

• 44:27Speaker 01

  It's like, that's why it smells like come in my ass, yeah. Yeah, so anyway, don't worry.

• 44:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You did the same thing, you went too far.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  No, it's fine.

• 44:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm kidding. I, when I was home last, I didn't tell you this, when I was home a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago, my dad was like, I left you something on your bed, it's a Manilah envelope, I was like, what is that? He goes, it's my will. I'm like, you didn't think you, you just left it on my bed?

• 44:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  What, to peruse it?

• 44:47Rayna Greenberg?

  He wanted me to just peruse it, he said he changed.

• 44:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  What'd you get?

• 44:49Rayna Greenberg?

  He said he changed from wanting to be buried to wanting to be cremated, which I love, because I want him with me, like, I just want him like on the mantle forever. I love the idea of that. But he, but the way he just so casually was like, there's just some light reading on your bed for you.

• 45:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  I would rip it open and be like, am I getting more than my brother? I'm kidding.

• 45:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, I mean, I didn't even look, and on my way out the door, I was like, dad, I'm sorry, I didn't read the will.

• 45:10Rayna Greenberg?

  I can have more. Okay, I have a question for you guys. I was, I was thinking about funerals recently. Cause in movies and TV, they always go to like a funeral or whatever it is in the graveyard and they lower the casket into the ground. I've never been to one of those. I don't know anyone who's been to one. I know a lot of them. Okay. Yeah, Jews do that. I've never been to one and I always hear about they're at the funeral home. Well, isn't it just?

• 45:31Speaker 01

  Jews do that.

• 45:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Jews do that. You go to the, you go there and it goes in the ground?

• 45:35Speaker 01

  I think it, it must depend on the religion because one of my friends just got shot in the head and I was at his.

• 45:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh my God. Hopefully the one that said the thing about your dad.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 45:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Hopefully somebody had a threesome with them.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 45:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Damn it, Harry. You lost a one, you had a threesome with him?

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, but they, they lowered him into the, into the ground.

• 45:53Rayna Greenberg?

  He's Jewish.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  I don't think so.

• 45:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. I don't think it's prob-

• 45:56Speaker 01

  I think it's good, I think, yeah, I just think it's if you want to hang out long enough.

• 46:00Rayna Greenberg?

  If you want to like hang out a little longer?

• 46:02Speaker 01

  If you hang out all day, you're gonna see to eventually get married.

• 46:05Rayna Greenberg?

  And Jewish, I mean, that only Jewish ones I've ever been to, you go to the funeral home first, you have like a ceremony and then everybody goes out to the funeral, to the cemetery.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  That's what we did for his.

• 46:14Rayna Greenberg?

  You do both.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  I think he's Cathedral, Catholic, whatever the fuck it, whatever. I'm learning about this shit.

• 46:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you grow up with religion?

• 46:20Speaker 01

  None.

• 46:20Rayna Greenberg?

  None. Okay.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  Zero.

• 46:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  I'm trying to learn.

• 46:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you? No.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:24Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't need to.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  What? I don't want to?

• 46:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Just try to be a good person.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  That's not working for me, so.

• 46:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Then you'll be a great Christian. So we're just gonna take a quick break and then we'll get right back into it with Harry. I'm telling you guys about Quince. I mean, you know that Ash and I have been just running around all summer. I need a wardrobe for it. I need shoes. I need bags. I need matching sets. Quince, I absolutely love what they do. Their clothes are timeless. They feel luxurious. They look elevated. The quality is beyond what you'd expect for the price and it is the kind of wardrobe upgrade that I just really love. I shop Quince every season. Ash and I both do. There's tons to choose from this summer. So they have 100% European linen, starting at $30, washable silk dresses and skirts. They have just like nice summer sweaters. I have a woven bag that I love. I bought white canvas sneakers from them. I mean, you really- Can shop your whole summer closet there and it looks so high end and you will not

• 47:16Rayna Greenberg?

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• 47:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, talking about my hair again. I hope it looks good today.

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• 49:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I got one more for you. All right, I'm gonna put you on. If you like that, I got more for you.

• 49:35Rayna Greenberg?

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• 50:20Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 50:35Rayna Greenberg?

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• 50:36Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 51:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 51:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you trying to be a good person?

• 51:08Speaker 01

  I'm trying my best.

• 51:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think you're not a good person?

• 51:10Speaker 01

  No, I think I'm the best person.

• 51:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, but yeah, I agree. I love you.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  But I love you the most.

• 51:14Rayna Greenberg?

  I have no experience with you, but I think you're great.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  Give you 10 minutes and you're gonna hate me.

• 51:20Rayna Greenberg?

  That's all it takes, 10 minutes.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  Two.

• 51:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I wouldn't date you, but I would like sleep with you and be your friend.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 51:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Wouldn't sleep with you and be your friend. That sounds awesome. My friendship? And then sex? Well, you said you're a bad person.

• 51:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  But Harry, are you even looking for a relationship?

• 51:37Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I think that's the thing with you.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  I'm not looking for sex. I think I'm asexual. No, I'm not.

• 51:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shut up. It seems to me like you've been caught up in situations where you like a woman and they want to be in a relationship with you and like deep down, you're not in like a commitment era of your life. Is that accurate?

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, we all have those days.

• 51:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but do you need people to believe that you are in a commitment era of your life? Of course. Okay. Yeah, you let them believe whatever they want to believe.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  No, I get, okay, I get excited.

• 52:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 52:07Speaker 01

  We get excited and we're like move in, let's start a family, let's do this stuff. I love you so much. You're the best person ever. Like, Harry, it's a little bit much. I met you an hour ago.

• 52:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's like love bombing.

• 52:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you love bomb people.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  No, I just, I'm excited.

• 52:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're excited.

• 52:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  We don't need to put a bad word on something that feels so good.

• 52:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  You called it a bad word.

• 52:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think it's a beautiful word.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 52:29Rayna Greenberg?

  What, love bomb?

• 52:31Speaker 01

  No, no, I think I get it. I get so excited and I, I'm like, oh, we could do this and I can help you with this. Like, I'm obviously not saying this to them, but I'm like feeling in my head and, and then after a while, it's like, oh, I actually maybe didn't like that aspect of you or like a lot of these people in this space, I mean, have careers, they just sleep all day and don't, don't do anything and I'm come home after working and I'm like, what are we doing? You know, like, that's what drives me a little bit crazy. But I think recently, like, to be serious, since dad passed and I was with all my sisters and they have 12 kids. I was like, oh, it's the first time I've felt like having a family. Cause my family's always been like super disjointed. And so I felt that and I'm like, oh, this is actually really nice. Like, I really want this. And I remember telling my dad about the last person that I was seeing

• 53:14Speaker 01

  and he was really excited because she was a little bit older than me. And he's like, oh, like this will be good for you. Like, he's like, I'm upset that I'm not going to see you become a father. But I did film a bunch of stuff with him for messages for my future kids. So I could tell them. I did like a whole podcast with him for like an hour and a half, like, figure out his whole life and then questions and answers for my kids. And then things for like each of my siblings, whatever else. And then like when we're feeling like we need a little bit of advice or something to give to my siblings. Anyway, that's beside the point, but I remember being there with him and like, and then my mom as well getting upset and I just was having like nightmares because I was like, oh, fuck, like I'm not. I haven't given them a grandkid. I know that's not the reason to have a kid is for your parents.

• 53:58Speaker 01

  But just like, oh, you know, I told my mom before when I hit thirty, I'm gonna have a family and all this stuff. So I just kind of got a little bit ready. But then I realized like, once I came back in the scene, back going out a little bit, kind of getting drunk and crazy and just like hooking out with like people that have been associated with in the past. I'm like, oh, this probably isn't on the right path. This is not fulfilling. So now I've been like, you know, I don't want it. I don't want any like, cause my biggest distraction, like I'm the worst when I'm in a relationship. Cause nothing else matters. I'm like, I just wanna be with this person. I wanna go do this. Whatever else like work slows down. I'm trying to learn a new language. I can't do that. I'm too busy. Like, what do you need? Like, how can I help?

• 54:37Speaker 01

  So I'm I turned into like a big puppy dog. So now I realize I just gotta get everyone away from me. Plus, everyone's escorts here.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  And that's crazy.

• 54:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you found that?

• 54:49Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 54:49Rayna Greenberg?

  A lot of

• 54:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 54:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, a lot of women that are attracted to you are escorts.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Well, no, a lot of influencers.

• 54:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, or all smart words.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  And I don't give a fuck if I get hate for this. And I'm looking at the camera.

• 55:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Say it.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  Because it's true. And I've seen it. And I've got screenshots of it on my phone. But it's okay.

• 55:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Say their names. No, like, it's okay if you are a

• 55:11Speaker 01

  It's fine.

• 55:12Rayna Greenberg?

  But like

• 55:13Speaker 01

  If I could do it, fuck, I would. I I'm sick of this working shit. If I could just pop this pussy on a little afternoon and make twelve thousand dollars.

• 55:21Rayna Greenberg?

  And like, go to Ibiza, yeah.

• 55:23Speaker 01

  Got Ibiza on a jet.

• 55:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Exactly.

• 55:25Speaker 01

  And you don't even need to post who the fuck you're with. You don't even tag the sponsor.

• 55:29Rayna Greenberg?

  They don't want you to post them. A lot of women are attracted to that in L.A. I wanna circle back to something you said a few minutes ago, cause you said, I say all these things in the moment. And then I realized like, oh, yikes, I've taken it too far. And I think a lot of women, myself included, have been in situations where like, a guy will say all this stuff to you. It's really intense. And like, I've had personal situations where guys are like, you're the person I've been searching for forever. You're the one. And then you just

• 55:55Speaker 01

  I'm gonna use that one. That's good.

• 55:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Stop. Harry, get the fuck out of here. I'm not telling you anything. I was not gonna do anything.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  What else do they say? Tell me. This is good.

• 56:05Rayna Greenberg?

  People just get excited.

• 56:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's like, what else did he say?

• 56:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I saw you some, one of their terrible ones.

• 56:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, and then.

• 56:10Rayna Greenberg?

  But you know, then you don't hear from them and women are like, what happened? I thought he was so into me and like, whether it's on purpose or not, I do think like what is happening is like, men are like, I said it because it felt good in the moment.

• 56:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  They felt it in the moment.

• 56:22Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't really mean it. Like this one guy was saying to me like, I have like evaded being in a relationship for so long. And like, I've met you and you're the person I want to show up for and be with and like, you're the person. And I didn't really hear from him for like a week after that. And I was talking to my guy friend and he was like, that guy number one, doesn't know enough about you to actually feel that. And number two, did not mean that. Like it felt nice in the moment to say it. And I think this happens kind of a lot.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Well, I think it's because, um, it's what I tell my female listeners on my podcast is, go on a date during the daytime, like go to an activity. So then you can really get to know someone. So it's actually a date. If you're at home, late at night and feeling freaky, I have horny goggles on. I'm not going to remember what I said, but I know it's going to be crazy. Like during sex, oh my God, the stuff that comes out of my mouth.

• 57:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Right. Okay. Now you give me some lines.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  Are you ready?

• 57:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 57:12Speaker 01

  No, no, but the stuff I say, I'm like, holy shit. Like, the last person I was seeing, like she's like, do you mean what you said? Like in the morning, I'm like, what happened? She's like, oh, that we're going to get married and you're going to have my kids and we're going to do this. And I was, I was giving you a monologue in your ear where we're having sex. Like I was going in, I was, was super drunk. But you're just feeling it and passionate and fun. And then it's silly, but that's why I think like, don't date guys at nighttime unless you want nighttime activities. Cause you know, everyone gets excited. Everyone's, look, the lion's got to eat, you know? The lion eats at night.

• 57:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, yes, drunk, having sex. We say things, everybody does. I like your point of just like finding out who someone is during the day, sober.

• 57:55Speaker 01

  Of course. Yeah.

• 57:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Every one of the conversations I'm telling you happened sitting on my bed.

• 58:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  4am.

• 58:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Some of them at 4am.

• 58:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying, like late night.

• 58:03Rayna Greenberg?

  Late night, sitting on my bed and like, it sounds like a real conversation. I believe people and they say this to me. I'm like, I'm awesome. Of course you feel like that.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, but then you have sex and then it's like, everyone's done.

• 58:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Kind of that.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  Yeah. I've got a rule. Always masturbate before any big decision. And pretty much any decision.

• 58:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  Cause it dictates everything.

• 58:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  Cause you could be like super horny and then be like, oh.

• 58:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I want to ask you this, cause we we talked about this with two of our guy friends, comedians, Trevor Wallace and Michael.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  Oh, I love those guys.

• 58:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're so great. So they say though, like if they masturbate before a date, like they're not going. Like it's too, they exhaust them and there's no motivation to go. Do you, would you masturbate before a date?

• 58:42Speaker 01

  I've done it.

• 58:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you still, you'll still go?

• 58:44Speaker 01

  I'm hungry.

• 58:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 58:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I always masturbate before a date.

• 58:46Speaker 01

  I gotta eat.

• 58:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Always.

• 58:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're in your twenties. That's what it's about.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Wait, really?

• 58:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're older.

• 58:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, always.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  Wow, what does that do for you?

• 58:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I don't want to be clouded by how horny I am if I like you or not.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  But I thought that doesn't happen to girls.

• 58:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  It happens for her.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 59:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I just don't want to be like, am I horny or do I like them? I just want to, you know, I want to know if I like you.

• 59:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes I just get so worked up and I'm like, I gotta just get it out and get that idea out of my head. Cause I think that's the problem with guys is when you start kissing and you get involved. They kind of try and rush it and shit. Yeah. So I'm always like trying to calm myself down. Don't rush it. Don't try and put it in. I could have warmed it up a little bit first, you know?

• 59:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley loves foreplay.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Oh, we love it.

• 59:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 59:24Rayna Greenberg?

  She's a huge foreplay enthusiast.

• 59:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Funny you say it like you don't.

• 59:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I, I like it, but I'll go right in. Like I don't eat like a ton of it.

• 59:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's a scene.

• 59:30Speaker 01

  She says it's looking at me.

• 59:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm ready. No, I wasn't looking at you. I'm ready to just like get to it.

• 59:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we are.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Really? No, we love eating pussy. It's fun.

• 59:38Rayna Greenberg?

  If somebody's good at it, I'll sit there all day. Are you bad at it?

• 59:41Speaker 01

  Nah, I love it. It's so good.

• 59:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  We are different. There's a scene in Tell Me Lies and he just goes right in and like fucks her like, I mean, they'd been sexting, I guess. So they were a little warmed up. And I was like, that scene, I like felt it in my pussy. Like I was like, like how dry that would be, how much it would hurt, like why I wouldn't want that. And Raina was like, I thought it was so hot. I was like, we are so different.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Sorry? No, I think it's, it's nice if you've been fucking for a while and it's just like, oh shit, like we're at a park or some shit. Let's get crazy.

• 1:00:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, but that one.

• 1:00:12Rayna Greenberg?

  If you're at a park, you are.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Daytime.

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, daytime activity, picnic, get an inn, put a baguette in my ass.

• 1:00:18Rayna Greenberg?

  No, if somebody's good at foreplay, I love it. If I'm drinking.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  Are those the new air forces that are meant to be dirty?

• 1:00:23Rayna Greenberg?

  No, they're just dirty.

• 1:00:24Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:00:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's so funny.

• 1:00:26Rayna Greenberg?

  They're like a couple of months old.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  No, have you not seen, sorry.

• 1:00:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't like shoes that are supposed to be dirty.

• 1:00:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that a thing?

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  You didn't see this shit?

• 1:00:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are those the ones you ran in the airport in? Remember we ran that day in the airport?

• 1:00:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I bought these a few months ago, but they are kinda dirty and I've been meaning to clean them.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  They, they release a dirty Air Force and then as you wear them, they get clean.

• 1:00:44Rayna Greenberg?

  What are the?

• 1:00:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is this serious?

• 1:00:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Wait, what are the goose, what the big stars?

• 1:00:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Golden Goose.

• 1:00:47Rayna Greenberg?

  Golden Goose, they're sold dirty. They're fucking gross and stupid.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  I don't get it unless they want to sponsor.

• 1:00:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Then they got kinda basic.

• 1:00:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I just wear these a lot. They're my walking shoes.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  That's so rude of me.

• 1:00:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can we play a little game with you?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we think it's funny. We love the concept of like things guys don't know about girls and vice versa. So we're gonna ask you a few questions. Let's kick it off. We're gonna give you four things to define and see if you know what they mean.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I U D.

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  What? It's like when you're drunk driving?

• 1:01:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Not a D U I, an I U D. Do you know what an I U D is?

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't it like one of those army things that like gets rid of electricity?

• 1:01:27Rayna Greenberg?

  It's girl stuff.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Isn't it E M F? Oh, oh, girl stuff?

• 1:01:29Rayna Greenberg?

  You know what an I U D is?

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, yeah, the, the, the hook?

• 1:01:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, you got it. Yes.

• 1:01:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  But what, what category was it?

• 1:01:37Rayna Greenberg?

  What does the hook do?

• 1:01:38Speaker 01

  Well, it fucking hurts sometimes, especially the little wire. It feels like a hairy little fucking pussy. Yes.

• 1:01:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I've only had one guy ever tell me he could feel it. I believed him. His dick was so huge, but only one guy has ever told me.

• 1:01:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  My string is tucked up behind my cervix, allegedly.

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  Allegedly. Maybe her string was extra long. I don't know.

• 1:01:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, sometimes you have to cut the string.

• 1:01:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it would just felt like you could feel it. It just felt like she was hairy on the inside in this one spot. And I'm like, it's so distracting.

• 1:02:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so crazy to be able to feel it.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  But then I'm like, what if it goes down my little?

• 1:02:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pee hole. Do you know what the purpose is?

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Just for accessories.

• 1:02:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just for fun. It's like a butt plug?

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  No, doesn't it stop, doesn't it close up your little?

• 1:02:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's birth control.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Oh, that's the word.

• 1:02:18Rayna Greenberg?

  It like bedazzles your uterus. It is for an accessory.

• 1:02:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I wasn't even gonna ask you if you can say what it means, cause you're not, not gonna get that, but it's intrauterine device. Okay, can you tell us what U T I stands for?

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  Urinary tract infection.

• 1:02:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Ding ding ding. Okay, cause men get those too.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  Affection, attention. What is it?

• 1:02:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Urinary tract infection.

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Infection.

• 1:02:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 1:02:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, what about H P V?

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  Harry's pretty vagina. Harry's perfect.

• 1:02:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you have it.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Version. I've got it. No, what? No, isn't it herpes?

• 1:02:48Rayna Greenberg?

  It is an STD.

• 1:02:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's human papillomavirus.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  Pavlov virus? Pavlova? You can't get a virus from having Pavlova because that's a big thing.

• 1:02:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you know that middle word? It's hu- I always, I always like hu- human pampl- pam- papillomavirus?

• 1:03:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  It sounds kinda like sexy, like Italian.

• 1:03:06Speaker 01

  How do you get it? You, do you know how to get it?

• 1:03:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  We get it from guys.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  You get it? I can't get it?

• 1:03:10Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you can get it. Men can get it.

• 1:03:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't, it doesn't affect them. So it, it leads to like cancer in women, but so women are getting it from.

• 1:03:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't have to. Most women have it, whatever, but.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  What? Most women have got pussy cancer?

• 1:03:26Rayna Greenberg?

  No, we don't get the ca- there's like hundreds of strands of it and three, four strands.

• 1:03:31Speaker 01

  This is horrible.

• 1:03:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like guys, all these guys are out here giving it to us and they don't even know.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  How do we know if we have pussy cancer?

• 1:03:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause it doesn't. It doesn't matter for you. It's so fucked.

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  Well, how do we stop this?

• 1:03:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  How do we, who do I have to call?

• 1:03:49Rayna Greenberg?

  You have to vote for a different president.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Do they really? I can't vote.

• 1:03:52Rayna Greenberg?

  A different one would know.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  I'll do it.

• 1:03:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:03:54Rayna Greenberg?

  This came up a lot. Do you know, tell me, if a girl says, I took an everything shower, what does that mean?

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Oh, I know this one.

• 1:04:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, four sisters. Okay, what does, what does it mean?

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  No, my sisters wouldn't teach me shit.

• 1:04:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Cause we did it on my podcast. We're like, oh, everything shower. I'm like, what is that? So you shave, you wash your little, your little nunny. Shave, clean, everything, yeah? Shave, clean, everything's done.

• 1:04:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and hair.

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  And hair. Yeah, wash your hair.

• 1:04:16Rayna Greenberg?

  You do everything.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 1:04:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you do everything.

• 1:04:19Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 1:04:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Let's talk about the way women orgasm. Are most women able to orgasm?

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  No, one in four women can orgasm.

• 1:04:27Rayna Greenberg?

  At all? Nobody told you?

• 1:04:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  So earnest.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  One in four can come.

• 1:04:34Rayna Greenberg?

  At all?

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no, that, well, I'm sure everyone can come if they try hard enough. But you guys are so complex. You have to be like in the moment. There has to be nothing stressing you out. Have, sometimes wear your socks, keep your feet warm.

• 1:04:45Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you, Harry. Ashley has to wear her socks. It's crazy.

• 1:04:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, my fiance is always trying to take my socks off with his feet.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Just wear them, yeah, like just keep.

• 1:04:53Rayna Greenberg?

  There cannot be a sock anywhere near me. I'm not even in the room.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  I'm just like, whatever's gonna make you feel comfortable. Like, we gotta figure this out because, and this is what I tell girls. I'm easy. I got me figured out. We're all good. We gotta, you're my little science experiment.

• 1:05:05Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  That's why I'm like, I gotta bust first. I'm not like, oh, fuck, let me get it in. So then I'm like, let me go to work because some women love the little finger. Some women love a little tongue. Some people want their toes sucked or whatever else like we don't know. And we're learning together.

• 1:05:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  So it's very stressful.

• 1:05:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Actually, listen, I don't want to be a male apologist, but I do think everyone of my girlfriends.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  A male polit- apologist?

• 1:05:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  A male apologist. I don't want to be like, oh, poor you guys, but like women are very complex in our bodies and what we like in terms of nipple play, butt play, internal stimulation, external.

• 1:05:36Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:05:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like what I like is different than what everybody else likes.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  And it's tough.

• 1:05:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you don't know till you know.

• 1:05:42Speaker 01

  And well, then also a lot of these women are faking as well. So you're just like, what, what do we actually know what's, what's good?

• 1:05:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you ask? Like, do you want to talk about it?

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, after, that's shortly after. I'm like, I love you so much. Let's get mad, whatever else.

• 1:05:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  What do you like in bed?

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  And they're like, oh, my God, I'm coming. I'm like, oh, okay, I'm out of here.

• 1:06:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It would really crush me if I found out somebody was like fake coming all the time. It would like really upset me.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  I've faked it.

• 1:06:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  We have to talk about this.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  I've faked it.

• 1:06:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, were you wearing a condom?

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:06:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, obviously. That's the only way you can fake it.

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, because then if I'm like, oh, my God.

• 1:06:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Tell me why and how this went down because I'm fascinated by male.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  It's just like, it wasn't fun.

• 1:06:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  And it didn't, it wasn't what I expected. It didn't feel right and it just didn't feel good and we weren't like connected. And I started going soft and I never, I've never go soft unless I'm fully like checked out. So then I was like, okay, because I don't want her to feel bad.

• 1:06:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Because then it turns into like a self-conscious.

• 1:06:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, she blames herself.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. And I don't want her to feel that way. It's just like, we're not here. So then I was just like, you know, I'm like, oh, my God.

• 1:06:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, that makes sense.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  And then, and then you just quickly rip it off, run to the bathroom and like, wow, it's crazy.

• 1:06:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Wow.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Never want to see you again.

• 1:06:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm so, so soft.

• 1:06:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's crazy. I went, it's rivaled up so quick.

• 1:07:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, where did it go?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:07:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  I can see that. And then I can also see, I'm sure there are situations where guys are just like, I'm not going to come. Right? Where the, it's just like.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  And that's even worse.

• 1:07:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 1:07:11Speaker 01

  That's so much worse. There's been nights where it's like really upset my partner and then they've gone, what, my partner? What am I, a fucking sheriff? What am I doing? But like, yeah, like really upset them to the point where they like take it on themselves. And then it's like they're working a fucking fifteen hour shift just trying to get that come out. It's like, let's take a moment, let's have some food, because maybe I need some chocolate.

• 1:07:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  Maybe I need you to play with my hair a little bit.

• 1:07:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  Maybe we are going on.

• 1:07:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Arm tickles.

• 1:07:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe I want you to lie to me a little bit.

• 1:07:40Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:07:41Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't want to be lied to ever.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  No, don't lie to me.

• 1:07:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  But everyone lies and I'm sick of it.

• 1:07:46Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, all those escorts are just lying to you.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  You should have seen the fuck.

• 1:07:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  Twelve K for four hours.

• 1:07:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can we go back to that? Like, are you meeting women? And obviously you're not knowing you're meeting them on apps or out, whatever you're meeting them. And then you find out they're also.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  No, to be, look, I'm gonna say that not everyone is.

• 1:08:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Of course not, we know that, our audience knows that. But I'm saying like, are you finding this out?

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  No, okay, so I haven't slept with anyone new this year. I've just been like focusing on like.

• 1:08:14Rayna Greenberg?

  Field. For five months, you've been celibate?

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Well, not celibate.

• 1:08:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Past partners.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I've spun the block on a few.

• 1:08:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love it.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. But then there was like this one and we were, fuck, this is gonna sound really bad. We were, I saw her put her phone passcode in and there was a friend of mine that was texting her. And we were drunk and I'm like, fuck, like, I could check this. And then I'm like, no, I shouldn't. And then I like got up to go pee, she's snoring and I'm like, maybe I'll have a look.

• 1:08:43Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, if it's my friend.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  And then I, it's my best friend.

• 1:08:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  Best friend in the world. And then I was like, okay, sweet. Then I see it and I was like, fair enough. Then I see another screenshot come through and then I see this other guy who I know has got a girlfriend. Then I see all these people and I'm like, holy shit. This is worse than I thought. This is so much worse than I thought. And then I see the screenshot to her best friend saying, this guy and his girlfriend want to pay me this, blah, blah, blah. And so I was like.

• 1:09:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And she slept through all this?

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was sitting there like.

• 1:09:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  But was your friend trying to hire her?

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  No, I think he was just trying to sleep with her.

• 1:09:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  Like, that's whatever.

• 1:09:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that's what tipped you off?

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's what tipped me off and then I'm like, okay, fair enough. But then I'm like, look, it's my best friend. It's her. Everyone can have fun.

• 1:09:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  You use the word best friend pretty loose. Pretty fast and loose.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  Nah, I love him. I love him. He's good.

• 1:09:33Rayna Greenberg?

  I think a lot of women come to LA, major cities, but LA specifically, to like meet rich, older guys.

• 1:09:39Speaker 01

  For sure.

• 1:09:39Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, if that's how you want to make your money, make your money.

• 1:09:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, we're not like, we're not judging at all. I'm fascinated by finding out.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  No, it's, it's so fascinating. And also like, I get it. Like, oh, I can come to LA and be hot full time and get my rent paid for, get bags, go on trips, do whatever the fuck I want. All I gotta do is suck a little bit of old cock from time to time. I'm, I'm going, I'm going crazy.

• 1:09:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  Like, it's insane. Cause this is what I realized, cause I was like wondering, I'm like, how do you get into that point? And it's, I think it's just like, your friend does it. You get introduced. Next thing you're on a trip, like, cause I also realized a lot of guys in LA don't have personalities. They just have money.

• 1:10:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:10:13Speaker 01

  So that's the way that they show that they're successful. They're doing stuff and they have those people around. So that I just realized, I was like, it's just so common. Whereas like I tell my siblings or like my friends back in Australia, and it's so weird and foreign. I'm like, no, it's actually just, it's another career path over here, I believe.

• 1:10:30Rayna Greenberg?

  You could be an escort, Harry. You think you're too famous to be an escort now?

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  No, fuck, I would run up a check. I'd be clapping my cheeks, be twerking and shit.

• 1:10:38Rayna Greenberg?

  What would your rates be?

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  Whatever makes me happy.

• 1:10:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So like, do you think you'd have like tiered services? Like if you want to play?

• 1:10:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like arm candy?

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  No, yeah, I think boyfriend, like boyfriend material. Yeah. Hey, no boyfriend experience on the weekend, you know, give me.

• 1:10:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, a whole weekend? Pray for that. That's some pretty woman shit.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  Let's go to dinner. Fifty, fifty?

• 1:10:58Rayna Greenberg?

  Fifty K to go to dinner with you? Fifty thousand dollars to have dinner?

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Am I being pompous?

• 1:11:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  If you guys see Harry out at dinner, just know that was fifty K.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  No, am I being pompous? Is that too much?

• 1:11:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  I have no idea.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Ten K. I'll do dinner. Fuck it. Five. I don't care. I mean.

• 1:11:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Now we're negotiating?

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Two and a half.

• 1:11:15Rayna Greenberg?

  If Ashley didn't hire you for dinner.

• 1:11:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is there a guy out there that you would pay fifty K to go to dinner with?

• 1:11:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Harry.

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:20Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 1:11:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Barack Obama.

• 1:11:22Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 1:11:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Dave Bautista.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:11:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I like a big, big man.

• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  Well, he's not big anymore.

• 1:11:28Rayna Greenberg?

  He did lose some weight, but he's still big.

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  He's off the steroids.

• 1:11:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know, but you liked his old look.

• 1:11:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I like his new look too. I like everything he does. But I like a big guy, like a very big guy, which makes no sense because I'm so tiny.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  No, it's the best.

• 1:11:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, can we show you some sex toys and you tell us how to use them?

• 1:11:42Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:11:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:11:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you like sex toys?

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  I love them.

• 1:11:44Rayna Greenberg?

  You love them?

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Anything with a sound wave that you guys definitely have in stock is always great.

• 1:11:49Rayna Greenberg?

  How do you feel if a girl pulls out a sex toy?

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  Let's do it.

• 1:11:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Let's do it?

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, just don't put it on me.

• 1:11:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:11:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so this is, we're gonna start easy. Obviously, this kind of shows you what it is, but you might not be familiar with this type of product.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  Vanilla frosting?

• 1:12:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's suck and blow gel. So this can be used on a penis or a vulva and like you just take a little, take a little, don't snort it. It's like a whip it.

• 1:12:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Put it under your finger. It's the texture of lube, just like squirt it out a little bit.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  Is it lube?

• 1:12:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, it's like a oral enhancer. So like, for example, a woman would squirt a little bit on her hand or on your dick and then suck away. It makes it such a more pleasurable experience.

• 1:12:23Speaker 01

  Wow, the fuck?

• 1:12:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you put on pussy or a butthole if you want. Do you like heat butt?

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes, but.

• 1:12:30Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, you can make vanilla flavored.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  Wait, that's really interesting.

• 1:12:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, well, that's yours.

• 1:12:34Rayna Greenberg?

  We're gonna send you home with like fun stuff.

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  Wow, that's really interesting.

• 1:12:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so here's this one. And at first glance, what would you think?

• 1:12:40Speaker 01

  Oh, that is the new Ray-Ban Meta.

• 1:12:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Exactly.

• 1:12:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Sunglass case.

• 1:12:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  So, open it up.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:12:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is our new Casey.

• 1:12:47Speaker 01

  Casey?

• 1:12:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, it's a travel toy. See what we did there?

• 1:12:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Butter yellow is the color of the summer.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  What are we putting in where? Or is this just for the, the old clit?

• 1:12:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, and this is like a thumper. I don't know if you've seen this type.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  A thumper? What are we in fucking doing? Timothy, shut up.

• 1:13:02Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it kind of, that's gonna thump on the clit. See, is that nice?

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  Fun.

• 1:13:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  It's so nice.

• 1:13:07Rayna Greenberg?

  And that's nice because you can hold the handle and like put it on somebody.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, because then you feel like, oh my god, it must be really good.

• 1:13:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then it's so discreet and demure, you know?

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it looks like a little banana.

• 1:13:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I almost can't use sex toys while I have sex at the same time.

• 1:13:20Speaker 01

  Wait, why?

• 1:13:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I come too quick.

• 1:13:22Speaker 01

  Wait, that's the best though, because then you guys can, then I go to my group chat and I'm like, oh yeah, fuck this.

• 1:13:28Rayna Greenberg?

  If somebody, yes, if someone's having sex, if somebody's having penetrative sex with me and they put a vibrator on me, I will blackout.

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  What the fuck is that?

• 1:13:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we're, this is my favorite toy and we want you to kind of work this out and see how you would do this.

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  This, this thing is your favorite toy?

• 1:13:44Rayna Greenberg?

  It's an adjustable cock ring.

• 1:13:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Partner toy?

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  A partner toy?

• 1:13:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so this is a.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  The fuck are you guys doing?

• 1:13:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  So this is a one size fits all cock ring and you have the adjustable bands. Your penis is gonna go in here and then this is gonna vibrate on her clit. It's amazing. It'll blow her mind.

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  I used to have the little wee vibe thing with an X and that was fun, but it was just like, I think I was just fucking like a jackrabbit. So I never really felt like anything, but now I'm like.

• 1:14:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  And it's textured for her clit. It's gonna, whoever you use that with is a lucky woman.

• 1:14:17Speaker 01

  That just went crazy.

• 1:14:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And then you just kind of pull up the little ties to make it fit perfectly.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  And they just hang around, down your balls? Or do you put it in your ass?

• 1:14:26Rayna Greenberg?

  You want to put it in your ass?

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  No, I don't like that.

• 1:14:28Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't want anything in your butt?

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  No, I stay away. It's scary back then.

• 1:14:31Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't want anything back in mine.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:14:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody's always trying to be back there.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  Yes, like.

• 1:14:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Everybody. Harry, you did great. That's for you. We're gonna send you home with some stuff.

• 1:14:40Speaker 01

  Please, thank you. That's so fun. It looks like a tadpole.

• 1:14:43Rayna Greenberg?

  But I like that you are open to women using toys in the bedroom. I think that like, some people think it like would replace you and it's the opposite. Like what a great enhancement to your sex life.

• 1:14:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's also like, it's scientifically proven, make him come. Let's, less for them to complain about, fuck.

• 1:14:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Alright, let's get rid of this one in four stat.

• 1:14:58Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying. And then also like, I, I think, okay, branding wise, in the group chat, what are they gonna say? Doesn't matter if it's a shit performance, whatever else, if she came, she can't complain.

• 1:15:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Flip it.

• 1:15:10Speaker 01

  True.

• 1:15:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, if I, if I like went to town, ate her out and then put it in and busted real quick. Oh, Harry came quick. Shut up. You still came. Doesn't matter because all these girls out here are. So they're envious.

• 1:15:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  But that's true because when you're at brunch the next day and you're like, oh, he was doing this and he did this. And your friend's like, well, did you come? And you're like, I did.

• 1:15:30Speaker 01

  Exactly. You can't be mad at coming.

• 1:15:32Rayna Greenberg?

  No, recently I went to this guy's apartment and he was like, I can't have sex tonight. I'm like tired. I was like, that's fine. He went down on me. I came so hard. I've been telling everybody. I just showed up at this guy's house and he just went on down, went down on me.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  What did you do? That was so good. And he made you dinner?

• 1:15:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Why was it so good?

• 1:15:45Speaker 01

  The whole experience.

• 1:15:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you have to shave his back though?

• 1:15:47Rayna Greenberg?

  No, I didn't have to shave his back. I didn't have to do anything. I just showed up about dinner.

• 1:15:50Speaker 01

  You shaved his back?

• 1:15:51Rayna Greenberg?

  He asked me if I wanted to shave his back on the way over. Said no.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  Wait, what did he do? That was so lovely.

• 1:15:56Rayna Greenberg?

  He really like was like humming on my clit. It was crazy. And then he like threw some fingers in. If you throw a finger in while you're going down on me, oh my God, I'll come so hard.

• 1:16:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  A hundred percent.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  And humming at the same time?

• 1:16:07Rayna Greenberg?

  It was like licking. He was like sucking and like humming.

• 1:16:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, we used to say if you would.

• 1:16:11Rayna Greenberg?

  It makes your mouth vibrate.

• 1:16:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, that feels a little weird to do because it makes a sound, but like it would feel so good.

• 1:16:17Speaker 01

  My problem is like, I'm struggling to breathe down there because my nose doesn't work. So that's just like.

• 1:16:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you have a deviated septum?

• 1:16:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh.

• 1:16:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that like a rugby injury?

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. How, how did you know?

• 1:16:27Rayna Greenberg?

  What are you saying?

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, because you've been broken so many times playing rugby.

• 1:16:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know.

• 1:16:31Speaker 01

  So like I just.

• 1:16:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Guess that because he's Australian, you just raised.

• 1:16:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you play rugby? Do I?

• 1:16:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:16:35Speaker 01

  I actually have a rugby team in LA.

• 1:16:37Rayna Greenberg?

  With your best friend?

• 1:16:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh.

• 1:16:39Speaker 01

  No, I was my agent.

• 1:16:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's actually just an orgy.

• 1:16:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our rugby team.

• 1:16:43Speaker 01

  No, they're good with, R of C LA. Shout out to us.

• 1:16:46Rayna Greenberg?

  But you can't breathe.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I'm like, I have to be like.

• 1:16:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you're like mouth breathing down there. Okay.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's why. So like when I like give a blowjob, I like to like throw my hand in there a lot so I can like take breaks.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  It's kind of nice like to just have a little like, sometimes I usually like come a little quicker as soon as they like go crazy and then put their hand and then take a break because I'm like, oh, fuck. It's the worst. And then like put it back on.

• 1:17:08Rayna Greenberg?

  The hand is good or bad of?

• 1:17:10Speaker 01

  No, it's, it's good because like if you're going crazy with your mouth, sometimes it gets a little bit like overstimulating. And then as soon as you take a step back. Just so like built up with anticipation that like if they're going crazy with their hand, it's game over.

• 1:17:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, is that your, is that a good tip for women?

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  I think just saliva is the best. Also, guys, we're.

• 1:17:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  And that'll make you really juicy.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  For the woman.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  Oh, have you seen the thing on TikTok where they have the pill and makes like super like massive saliva?

• 1:17:36Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 1:17:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  No.

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  You guys should start selling that shit.

• 1:17:38Rayna Greenberg?

  The second blow gel makes your saliva glands just activate.

• 1:17:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:41Rayna Greenberg?

  So it makes your mouth really juicy. Not everybody likes that. I like a really wet.

• 1:17:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  But then you get the taste on top of it. Like my favorite is when we had over the holidays, the peppermint patty. It's just like such a tasty treat because I love a sweet treat before bed anyway.

• 1:17:53Speaker 01

  Peppermint patty?

• 1:17:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, we do new flavors.

• 1:17:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  We like, I like minty.

• 1:17:56Speaker 01

  This.

• 1:17:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, for the second blow gel. What did you think we were talking about?

• 1:18:00Speaker 01

  Like a patty. I'm like, is there gonna patty to bed?

• 1:18:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you are taking something that makes your come taste better?

• 1:18:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, Popstar. You heard of this?

• 1:18:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Uh-uh.

• 1:18:07Speaker 01

  No brand deal, but.

• 1:18:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Have you verified that it does taste better?

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Well.

• 1:18:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you taste it preemptively?

• 1:18:12Speaker 01

  Some girl gave me head and I like grabbed her as soon as she came. I was like, what does it taste like?

• 1:18:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Rate it, rate it from one to 10?

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I was like, does it taste good? She's like, yeah, tastes pretty good.

• 1:18:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, who's gonna say it's bad? That's just dirty talk.

• 1:18:22Speaker 01

  No, I just explained, I was like, look, I've been having these pills.

• 1:18:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  You need to A B test it.

• 1:18:26Speaker 01

  I had sex with Emily on my podcast. She's like, you gotta try these. So then I just started buying them. And it's like meant to be like a volume enhancer. So you have more come and then apparently it's meant to like taste better.

• 1:18:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Enhancer? So you have more come?

• 1:18:36Speaker 01

  Apparently, but like.

• 1:18:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you pretty not, are you not coming enough?

• 1:18:39Speaker 01

  No, I should, I wanna come more.

• 1:18:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  We love a lot of come.

• 1:18:42Speaker 01

  We just, yeah.

• 1:18:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a sign of respect.

• 1:18:45Speaker 01

  It is. Yeah. My ancestors would have pre shared a lot of come.

• 1:18:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I said something like, this was last year and I said like, I love a lot of come. It's a sign of, and Raina was like, respect.

• 1:18:56Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:18:56Rayna Greenberg?

  Some cultures.

• 1:18:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  And I meant like vitality and like a youthfulness.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:19:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  And you were like, respect.

• 1:19:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:19:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I, I didn't know that I liked a lot of it until I met someone who didn't come a lot. And then you're just like, give me the ick. It was just like this little.

• 1:19:10Speaker 01

  Cause it's, okay, like it's like if a girl squirts, it's like, oh, I've got the validation. I know that she did, like everyone's happy to hear.

• 1:19:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  Same with us. Like if it was one drop, you'd be like, where is it? Like, what's going on?

• 1:19:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Did you fake it?

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:19:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:22Speaker 01

  So then it's like, look, if it's half a fucking cup, you're like, oh my God, I must be incredible.

• 1:19:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you like a vocal comer?

• 1:19:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hmm. Good question.

• 1:19:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Thank you so much.

• 1:19:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's kind of primal.

• 1:19:35Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do it right now.

• 1:19:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Ashley's like, prove it.

• 1:19:40Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:19:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Use the toys.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it's kind of just like.

• 1:19:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is it a growl?

• 1:19:44Speaker 01

  No, I'm not growling.

• 1:19:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you do like Australian sounds?

• 1:19:47Speaker 01

  No, but I'll just like tense up and you can.

• 1:19:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Do you know that there's a wide range of like come sounds for men? Do you know this? I don't know why you know it.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  I wouldn't know.

• 1:19:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you've had a lot of threesomes with them.

• 1:19:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I'm not like, hey, let me, are you coming now, brother? Let me hear your vocal range. Yeah, I want to mimic that.

• 1:20:03Rayna Greenberg?

  There's a wide range from like no sound to like weird moaning to long moaning to like.

• 1:20:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Growling.

• 1:20:09Rayna Greenberg?

  And I don't mind the growling, the grunting, like grunting.

• 1:20:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, like I'll, I'll give you a warning, like fuck, I'm about to come and then it's.

• 1:20:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, some people don't do that at all. And you're like, are you a psychopath?

• 1:20:18Speaker 01

  No, it pisses me off. I have to tell a girl, don't tell me if you're about to come.

• 1:20:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Why?

• 1:20:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause then you'll come?

• 1:20:22Speaker 01

  It pisses me off. Exactly. It's li- it's literally like a switch. If you, if you want to finish me, if it's like, it's so embarrassing. It's just like, I'm about to come. Bang, done, game over. I just get so excited.

• 1:20:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  When she says I'm about to come.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I was like, if I hear I'm about to, hand on the mouth, shut up.

• 1:20:36Rayna Greenberg?

  I have to say it.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  But just do it. Tell me when we're, when we're doing it and when it's happening.

• 1:20:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you want it, I'm coming.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  Like I wanted to be right at the same time, cause I know that that rocket ship is going to take the fuck off as soon as I hear that magic word. It's just like.

• 1:20:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  Do you find it hotter when she says, I'm going to come as opposed to I want you to come?

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I want you to come. It's like, okay, like I've got, I've got shit to do.

• 1:21:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  That was on our, our list. Like when women say that, it's kind of like wrap it up.

• 1:21:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I'm over this now.

• 1:21:05Rayna Greenberg?

  That's so funny.

• 1:21:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or we've already come, or we've already come.

• 1:21:07Rayna Greenberg?

  But it's usually, I've come and I'd like you to wrap this shit. It is one of my favorite dirty talk lines, because it sounds so dirty. You're like begging for it. You want it, but like really what you mean is like, let's wrap this shit up.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, see, I just don't, I'm just like, okay, I get it. Like we, we've got chores. You need to do your brand posts. I understand.

• 1:21:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right, yeah.

• 1:21:23Rayna Greenberg?

  We're both.

• 1:21:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  You have clients to see.

• 1:21:24Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you're an escort. You've got to get, you've got to get on the PJ. What are you looking for in a, or nothing? Are you looking for nothing?

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  Nothing.

• 1:21:32Rayna Greenberg?

  You don't want a partner right now?

• 1:21:34Speaker 01

  No, it's, it would be amazing.

• 1:21:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 1:21:37Speaker 01

  But I feel like every time I've gone hunting for one, it's been the wrong thing. And again, it's like my biggest distraction. I feel like right now with work and stuff, we're so close to everything being amazing and huge and incredible. Like there's so much stuff in the works. And I feel like if I get a partner and I'm at the, I'm at the stage where it's like kids, married, settle down. Like buy a house, do the stuff and get ready for that. It's going to slow it all down. So I'm like, I just think that I'm not like ready just yet.

• 1:22:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that's fair. It could go either way. You could find a woman who is not on some sort of timeline and she could really like support you in your career and that could work in your benefit, or you could find someone that like you said, totally distracts you and is like, when are we doing the next step? When are we taking the trip, moving in together, getting married, having kids?

• 1:22:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's tough, especially like, I don't know what's, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with me. So you never know.

• 1:22:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. Well, we want to ask you in honor of your podcast, if someone is boyfriend material. So we asked our listeners to submit some scenarios of three to four month relationships they've been in. And is this guy boyfriend material? We're going to judge it.

• 1:22:41Speaker 01

  Wait, these people, they're real?

• 1:22:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  These are our listeners. Yeah.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:22:44Rayna Greenberg?

  I've been dating, she puts in quotes, dating this guy for almost two months now. He's really sweet. Green flags everywhere. He bought me flowers. He's taking me out to dinner a bunch of times. We've gone hiking, bowling, mini golfing. He picks me up, opens the doors for me every time. He's told his friends, coworkers, families about me, but he

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  This guy's the best.

• 1:23:01Rayna Greenberg?

  But he won't touch me. There's more. I won't initiate a first kiss. I had initiated our first few dates, so I wanted him to do some of the initiating physically.

• 1:23:10Speaker 01

  Wait, she hasn't initiated a kiss?

• 1:23:12Rayna Greenberg?

  She's saying, I don't want to. I want him to initiate the kiss.

• 1:23:14Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:23:15Rayna Greenberg?

  When hiking, our hands accidentally brushed against each other's and he apologized. What the fuck? What is going through his mind? We had a conversation. I told him I'm sad he hasn't kissed me yet. His response was, oh, so you want me to? Then we hung out and he still did not kiss me. Please help.

• 1:23:31Speaker 01

  He's a virgin. Or he's gay.

• 1:23:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or he's gay. I mean,

• 1:23:35Speaker 01

  And both those are great.

• 1:23:36Ashley Hesseltine?

  I hope this, this sounds so far fetched, like unless these are super duper religious people.

• 1:23:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause I think that people get scared about consent today, which they should, but it sounds like she was like, you have my consent. I'd love you to kiss me.

• 1:23:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, but girls, we can take the first step as well. It's the most attractive thing if a girl like just grabs you and kisses you as well. It's like, oh, fuck. Cause sometimes like I've been in the mode where it's like, I've been waiting for the invitation. I don't want to overstep. He could be like, oh, fuck, we're hanging, we're going bowling, we're doing all this stuff. We're hanging out as friends. And I like the girl, but I don't know if she likes me because maybe she's not communicating well enough. Or she's like, I'm into it. Like, I've spent so much time with my friends and they've never been like, oh, like this is a date, like I'm into you. I'm like, wait, no, I didn't even, didn't even clock it.

• 1:24:27Rayna Greenberg?

  It seems like he doesn't clock it.

• 1:24:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you guys.

• 1:24:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Know that she's into him.

• 1:24:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  But like, let's look at all the details. There's been flowers.

• 1:24:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's in it.

• 1:24:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  They're going on dates.

• 1:24:35Speaker 01

  She has to suck him off. Grab his cock and then take a bull by the horns.

• 1:24:40Rayna Greenberg?

  She touched his hand and he was like, no.

• 1:24:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  To just go to gay, but that's my immediate reading is it sounds like there's been six to eight dates with not so much as a handhold. And so I'm wondering.

• 1:24:51Speaker 01

  Okay, but also on the other hand, this kind of sounds like someone's Prince Charming. You know, this guy is scared. He's afraid of vagina. He's afraid of everything. This is, this is a woman's dream.

• 1:25:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  How old are they? I gotta know.

• 1:25:02Rayna Greenberg?

  This is not my dream, Harry.

• 1:25:03Speaker 01

  I know, we want to get fingered on the hike.

• 1:25:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  What's the, it's the Jewish, super conservative Jewish people. They're not even supposed to touch, right? Till their wedding day?

• 1:25:11Rayna Greenberg?

  Hasidic, like ultra orthodox Jews, like men and women don't touch.

• 1:25:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's a word for it, I forget.

• 1:25:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Orthodox.

• 1:25:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, no, the, what is that whole concept is called? It's a thing.

• 1:25:20Speaker 01

  By mitzvah.

• 1:25:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was on Jewish.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  Muzzle's off.

• 1:25:23Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know what it's called.

• 1:25:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  It was on Jewish matchmaker.

• 1:25:25Rayna Greenberg?

  But it doesn't sound like it's a religious thing. It just, I don't know.

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  She has to kiss him.

• 1:25:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, she has to kiss him.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  She has to do it.

• 1:25:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think he's gonna freak out.

• 1:25:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think he does not want to kiss her. I think if he wanted to, he would have. I mean, I think she was like, I'd like you to kiss me.

• 1:25:37Speaker 01

  But if she wanted to, she would as well.

• 1:25:38Rayna Greenberg?

  No, she wants to.

• 1:25:39Speaker 01

  You can't be like, hey, I want you to kiss me.

• 1:25:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, she.

• 1:25:41Speaker 01

  She's saying, I don't, I'm not gonna initiate it. Okay, first off, equality. Let's just put that out there.

• 1:25:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, no, she has to kiss him, but I'm saying that might be it, because I think he's gonna freak out.

• 1:25:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I think he's not gonna kiss her.

• 1:25:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  I want her to.

• 1:25:53Speaker 01

  Well, then we, then we know.

• 1:25:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  Then we know.

• 1:25:55Speaker 01

  Or at least just say, you know what she should do? Chat GPT. Hey, please rewrite this in the most thoughtful, considerate way ever. And then say, look, I'm really into you. I don't know what's going on. I really want to kiss you. I really want to take this to the next step. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Everything that you think of that you want to say to this guy, put it in chat GPT, make it rewrite it in the most thoughtful, considerate way. Copy paste that because then hands free, all good. And it's going to write it way better than we ever could.

• 1:26:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:26:21Rayna Greenberg?

  I would have to know, like, is this guy think we're just friends? Like, I don't think he does.

• 1:26:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, the flowers, the picking her up, the date.

• 1:26:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, telling the family.

• 1:26:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  But yeah.

• 1:26:29Speaker 01

  Sounds like she's like, she's the problem.

• 1:26:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, how old are they?

• 1:26:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm, I know, are they like seventeen is my question.

• 1:26:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, if they're like.

• 1:26:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine?

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  No, I was fucking at seventeen and fingering in class.

• 1:26:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  We know you are. I just mean.

• 1:26:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Of course. I'm sorry, assuming math and you're figuring somebody.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, getting jerked off.

• 1:26:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think she should kiss him and let us know. And I mean, it sounds like he is boyfriend material, but maybe just not for a girl.

• 1:26:52Rayna Greenberg?

  For a man.

• 1:26:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, let's do the next one. Okay, she says, let's say you've been dating this amazing guy who has been kind, thoughtful, been smitten with each other since upon meeting. The issue is you caught him cheating. Honestly, so hard to rap.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  Boyfriend material?

• 1:27:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, obviously still hard to, Harry's like relatable.

• 1:27:07Rayna Greenberg?

  The way that she wrote this, by the way, is a little strange. She's like, she's like giving you a scenario, but she is.

• 1:27:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's her. I'll try to reread it in a moment. So they've had several conversations about it, have listened to podcasts. They've read a book on how to process a partner being unfaithful. They both agree there is a lot of love there and immense guilt and people are redeemable. But there are just things that spark a little doubt, which is fair. But so the thing is they never follow each other on Instagram. They DM each other and watch reels, but they've never followed each other. Once the discussion with cheating occurred, she asked to follow each other. He said, yeah, I don't care. So she followed him. He never accepted and still hasn't requested to follow her. Is it weird to not follow your partner? Is it that big a deal when there's really no media presence of either one of us? And just a quick note, he followed the girl on Instagram he cheated with.

• 1:27:52Rayna Greenberg?

  I had no problem with this until I saw that.

• 1:27:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's the worst.

• 1:27:57Rayna Greenberg?

  He is the worst.

• 1:27:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is the worst.

• 1:27:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so she's saying he doesn't have any social media presence. So like there, he was saying like there's no reason to follow each other, but he followed the girl he cheated on you with.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  It doesn't, it's kind of like a sign of like social currency, you know, if you're like following someone like it's.

• 1:28:10Rayna Greenberg?

  You gotta follow your partner. That's crazy.

• 1:28:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  If he knows it means something to her, why not?

• 1:28:15Rayna Greenberg?

  He won't accept her followers.

• 1:28:17Ashley Hesseltine?

  He's making a statement. He won't accept her, he won't let her, he won't let her follow.

• 1:28:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Your man won't accept your followers. Says, we're not making fun of you. Like this is crazy. Get out of there.

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  Block him. Fuck his best friend. Or DM me. I'll follow you.

• 1:28:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. I, I have to say it's not boyfriend material.

• 1:28:35Speaker 01

  That's the worst. That's the biggest red flag.

• 1:28:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:38Speaker 01

  Like anytime I've cheated, I 100% would never, would never follow the girl. Only after when I'm like, oh, rebound time. How you been, Emily? Oh.

• 1:28:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh my god.

• 1:28:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh shit, which Emily?

• 1:28:51Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:28:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's probably been a few. Yeah. Harry, this was a delight.

• 1:28:55Rayna Greenberg?

  It's, I hate it. I wanted to hate you. I hate it.

• 1:28:58Speaker 01

  Everyone says that. They go, I want to hate you so much.

• 1:29:00Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. I was like, why do people keep dating this guy? But I get it.

• 1:29:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:04Rayna Greenberg?

  It's annoying.

• 1:29:05Speaker 01

  I'm a nice guy.

• 1:29:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I get it too.

• 1:29:07Rayna Greenberg?

  I would never date you, but you are so charming and wonderful.

• 1:29:10Speaker 01

  You gotta stop doing this. You say something really nice and you go.

• 1:29:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  She's baiting you.

• 1:29:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh, she is. She is. Yeah.

• 1:29:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Are you turning on a little bit? I'm gonna head out. That's all an hour gonna go. I'm gonna go put a diaper on your dog.

• 1:29:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, fuck.

• 1:29:23Rayna Greenberg?

  My house is right down the street.

• 1:29:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:29:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right. Well, let's wrap up so you guys can get going. Harry, what do you want to plug?

• 1:29:29Speaker 01

  Uh, please follow Boyfriend Material, listen to the podcast. It's great. And buy our skincare line, Pash, www.getpash.com. If you have sensitive skin. I should have brought them, but I was in a rush. I didn't realize we're in fucking Bangladesh over here.

• 1:29:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're gonna see you next week.

• 1:29:43Rayna Greenberg?

  We're gonna see you on your podcast.

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  Oh, you guys coming?

• 1:29:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I hope so. I hope they didn't just trick us just to have you on.

• 1:29:48Speaker 01

  Wait, are you?

• 1:29:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're scheduled next week.

• 1:29:50Speaker 01

  Oh, great.

• 1:29:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't even know who your publicist is, Harry. You don't know what's going on.

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:29:56Speaker 01

  Wait, you coming on next week?

• 1:29:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, we'll see you on Thursday.

• 1:29:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you check your calendar and see if we're there?

• 1:30:00Rayna Greenberg?

  We have, yes, we, I scheduled it. It's on Thursday next week. It's on the 5th.

• 1:30:04Speaker 01

  Thursday? Oh, I'm not in town.

• 1:30:09Speaker 01

  No, wait.

• 1:30:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's so weird. I'm supposed to be in Miami.

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  No, no, no. You guys are in there.

• 1:30:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Send me that screenshot. All right, guys. Check out Harry's podcast, just the episode that we'll be on. No, I'm kidding. And the skincare?

• 1:30:24Speaker 01

  Pash.

• 1:30:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Pash.

• 1:30:25Rayna Greenberg?

  How do you spell it?

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  P A.

• 1:30:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  S H?

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  S H.

• 1:30:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, pash.com?

• 1:30:30Speaker 01

  Getpash.com. It's for people, if you've got super sensitive skin.

• 1:30:33Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:30:34Speaker 01

  It's to help like repair your skin barrier because a lot of, a lot of the shit that you guys put in your skin has got a lot of acid in it.

• 1:30:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 1:30:39Speaker 01

  And it peels your skin barrier off. And so like I've had skin cancer three times.

• 1:30:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, my God.

• 1:30:44Speaker 01

  And so after that, I'm like, okay, I need to have something that like helps, like especially if you've been in the sun, whatever else, just to help make sure that we're all good and everything's fine. And we have a derma test seal approval, which probably you guys don't care. It's really important.

• 1:30:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's important.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  If you have sensitive skin, anyway.

• 1:30:59Rayna Greenberg?

  We care. I just started a skincare routine like a year ago.

• 1:31:01Speaker 01

  Oh, you did?

• 1:31:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I was really thriving.

• 1:31:02Speaker 01

  Get rid of everything? Just take my stuff. I promise it will change your life.

• 1:31:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. Okay, you'll help bring it to your house.

• 1:31:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the, and the tubes are seven inches long. Anyway.

• 1:31:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  You gotta put the cock ring on it.

• 1:31:11Rayna Greenberg?

  The tubes are seven inches?

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  Well, I just, sometimes these are fun facts that people need to understand.

• 1:31:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I own a sex toy company. I don't need to fuck myself with skincare bottles.

• 1:31:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  The cock ring will fit.

• 1:31:20Speaker 01

  I'm just saying, how would I know that it's seven inches?

• 1:31:23Rayna Greenberg?

  That's true. You held it up next to yourself?

• 1:31:25Speaker 01

  No, I put it against a ruler.

• 1:31:26Rayna Greenberg?

  The remote.

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:31:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  Anyway, continue. She's trying to wrap this shit up, motherfucker.

• 1:31:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  GirlsGottaEat.com, GirlsGottaEat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash Hess. Reina is reina.greenberg. Vibesonly.com for all the products that Harry tested for us today. And we will see you guys next Thursday.

• 1:31:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good week, guys.

• 1:31:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.