Bonus Episode – Obsessions, Earworms, and RIP Sly Stone

This week in the After Party, Jake goes down a rabbit hole as he thinks about great songs about obsession. What are some of your favorites? And speaking of songs and obsession, what is that 90s earworm Jake has stuck in his head? Plus we hear from you on where you are and what you're doing when you listen to Disgraceland. Next week, we're bringing you the tragic story of the Who and the Riverfront Coliseum disaster , and Jake wants to know: What is the worst tragedy in music history? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ mailto:[email protected], or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 124 - Sly Stone https://www.disgracelandpod.com/124/sly-stone Episode 129 - Bruce Springsteen https://www.disgracelandpod.com/129/bruce-springsteen Episode 152 - Blondie https://www.disgracelandpod.com/152/blondie Episode 85 - Pantera https://www.disgracelandpod.com/085/pantera Episode 25 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/025/kurt-and-courtney-pt-1 and 26 https://www.disgracelandpod.com/026/kurt-and-courtney-pt-2 - Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://disgracelandpod.com/membership. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.disgracelandpod.com/merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://mailchi.mp/doubleelvis/disgraceland-email-newsletter Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/disgracelandpod/ ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@disgracelandpod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/disgracelandpod (formerly Twitter) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 1:54Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgrace Land, the after-party.

• 2:21Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the Disgrace Land bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject on Bjork. We are previewing the coming episode on the Who and the Riverfront Coliseum Disaster, talking "I'm So Obsessed With You Blues," and we go through your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie All Right Discos. Let's get into it.

• 3:06Jake Brennan?

  So Ricardo Lopez was obsessed with Bjork and nearly killed her, as we just heard in this week's full episode. Mark David Chapman was obsessed with John Lennon and did indeed kill the coolest Beatle. Nathan Gale was obsessed with Pantera, and he shot and murdered their guitar player, Dimebag Darrell, when Dime was on stage with his other band, Damage Plan, coincidentally on the same date that John Lennon was murdered, December 8th, also the same day that Jim Arson was born. Anyways, this theme of obsession got me thinking about musicians and their obsession. So flipping it, so these, everything I just talked about was about fans being obsessed with rock stars.

• 3:51Jake Brennan?

  This is about musicians who are, who themselves are obsessed. Okay. And I thought about how obsessed Kurt Cobain was with Courtney Love. It's something that I don't think gets enough coverage, but I found it when I was researching Nirvana for the two episodes that we did in Nirvana, I, you could see, it's clear as day, the dude was obsessed with her. And there's a lot of his writings that depict his obsession. So some people would ask, is, was Kurt even obsessed with Courtney? And the answer, I think, is absolutely yes, he was. Here's an example, in one journal- Entry of Kurtz, he writes about Courtney, Courtney, this is a quote, Courtney, when you're not around, I literally can't breathe. I can't think. I feel like a lost child looking for its

• 4:34Jake Brennan?

  mother in a department store. I ache for you. I need you so fucking bad. It scares me. I want to crawl inside your body and live there. Now, of course, Kurt Cobain was a total mess when he died. Aside from his relationship with Courtney Love, that depending on who you talk to will be described to you as being toxic or damaged at the time, or it's hard to depict that relationship without negativity there at the end. And Kurt was, of course, depressed and heavily addicted to drugs and had been for some time. And that means, you know, his brains were kind of like oatmeal.

• 5:15Jake Brennan?

  But all that said, I often think, what would have happened if Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself? How would it have gone for Kurt? And in this context, I'm thinking, how, how would his obsession with Courtney Love have played out? Not just in his relationship, but in his career? I have thoughts. None of them are good, but I want to keep going down this obsession rabbit hole with you guys and where, where the Nirvana, where the Kurt Cobain of it all led me. There aren't any Nirvana songs that I can think of that deal with, the type of obsession that we're talking about. Maybe there are. I didn't really research. I was just thinking off the top of my head, but it got me thinking, what are some of the other tunes of some other songs of obsession

• 5:57Jake Brennan?

  from artists that are, that are bordering on the creepy? Okay. Songs of obsession that are bordering on the creepy. Okay. Well, speaking of John Lennon, there's Run for Your Life with its, I'd rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man. Now, John Lennon later said, of course, that he regretted writing that song. And I always saw the song as sort of a product of the times. And if you're going to indict anyone here, I'm not letting John Lennon completely off the hook, but you got to indict the times. Okay. John said he regretted it. He always said he regretted that song. And again, I think it's more about the time that the songwriter was working in more than it is an actual statement about a woman that the songwriter was thinking about. And again, I'm not excusing John Lennon, I'm not excusing it.

• 6:40Jake Brennan?

  But we gotta take into context the era, that lyric, "I'd rather see you dead little girls than to be with another man." It is hardly "I wanna fuck you like an animal" by Trent Reznor, which I'm not sure if obsession was on Trent's mind when he wrote that lyric or not, but one could sure as hell make the case. I love that song, by the way. But, you know, taken literally, kind of fucked up. Also, I'm pretty sure Marilyn Manson claims that he wrote that lyric, that he gave Trent that idea. That's a whole other wormhole. But let's stay in the creepy obsession song wormhole for a minute, okay? And thinking about this, I came across, I don't know why, but Sarah McLachlan, just, she cracks me up. I don't know why. She's like the most self-serious, least funny person

• 7:25Jake Brennan?

  out there. Although she was in an episode of Portlandia, so I gotta give her some credit. But anyway, Sarah McLachlan, check this out. This is so fucked up. Sarah McLachlan had a superfan, an obsessed fan, a computer programming fan from Canada. Okay, so I'm assuming a nerd. And he wrote her all these creepy letters, very, very disturbing stuff. Sarah McLachlan then took some of the stalker's own words from those letters and used them in a song that she wrote about obsession called "Possession." The stalk, this is where it gets weird. The stalker then sued Sarah McLachlan for plagiarizing his words, which she admitted she had done. Well, she didn't admit plagiarism, but she admitted she'd

• 8:05Jake Brennan?

  used the words. Wasn't like she was plagiarizing on purpose, trying to pass it off as her own work, you know, to kind of get by on people. She was blurring her life with her art. In a pretty awesome way, I would say, and also, obviously, very creepy, in a good way. But to make the story even weirder, the case that was brought by the stalker against Sarah McLachlan was never resolved because the stalker killed himself. Super dark. Super dark.

• 8:39Jake Brennan?

  Sarah McLachlan, dark. Her music's dark too. Her shit's dark. Really is. For somebody so innocent looking. By the way, there's a fantastic video going around the internet of these two dudes at this, at a karaoke club and they get up to sing whatever song Sarah McLachlan uses in that commercial she does with the dogs that she's trying to save where the dogs are all in cages and the dogs are all beat, beat to shit and you know, she's, this is her charity. This is the thing she's doing and I'm not making fun of it. It's a great thing that she's doing, whatever this foundation is. But we've all seen this commercial, I think, and you know, Sarah, in addition to the images of the, the dogs, which are truly horrific, Sarah McLachlan, in a very

• 9:24Jake Brennan?

  obviously self-serious kind of way, is, uh, is, is giving the VO on the, the trauma these dogs are facing and why people need to send their money to this foundation. So, back to this video that's going around the internet, which is hysterical. These two dudes are at a karaoke bar and they get up and they choose this song and one dude is singing the Sarah McLachlan part and the other dude is reading the VO from the commercial about the dogs. And the reaction on the people's face in the karaoke, it's just fucking priceless. It's so good. Google that. All right. What other songs, what other creepy obsession songs are there? Inspired here by Bjork and Ricardo Lopez. There's Stan, of course, by your favorite and mine,

• 10:08Jake Brennan?

  apparently Eminem. We all know that song, so I'm not going to go into it here. There's a ton of these that we know about. One Way or Another by Blondie, which, those lyrics deserve another look. Okay. Check those out. Another listen. Every Breath You Take by The Police. That's not even worth mentioning. It's so overplayed. Uh, but check out Tom Jones' Delilah. All right. Where the POV from the singer of the song is about murdering a woman for, literally murdering a woman for being with someone else. Uh, Tom Jones. I didn't know you had it in, in you. One more here. Okay. And this is, this is a great song, uh, with or without the obsession context here. Frankie Teardrop by Suicide. Great, great, great song and super creepy. Now, it's, it's more of a, a modern.

• 10:53Jake Brennan?

  Murder ballad than it is a song about obsession, but it's got a lot of obsession in it and it's just damn good. And if you don't know the song, it is a great introduction into one of the coolest bands to ever do it, a band who influenced everyone from Bruce Springsteen to Radiohead. Okay, actually, this is reminding me of one more song about obsession. I mentioned murder ballads. So Knoxville Girl by Louvin Brothers is a murder ballad and it is clearly about obsession. Lots of versions of Knoxville Girl, including one by the Lemonheads, but the Louvin Brothers is the best version. Knoxville Girl might be the song that got me into country music and super stoked, my love for music and crime. It's the story of one man being obsessed with a woman and not being able to deal and well, I don't want to spoil it for you, but go check it out. Go listen to Knoxville Girl

• 11:38Jake Brennan?

  and listen to the Louvin Brothers version of it. All right. L O U V I N. Louvin. And speaking of the Lemonheads, their new single, it's really fucking good. It's called Deep End. Jay Mascis and Juliana Hatfield are on the track and it rocks. It's fantastic. Can't wait for the full album, Dando. Bring it. All right. Thank you Bjork for sending us down this obsession rabbit hole. Check out the Bjork episode if you haven't already. Released it just this week. Also this week, we've got our rewind episode coming up next, right after this episode and that's on Amy Winehouse. Speaking of obsession, Blake Fielder much Amy. And then next week, we've got our new episode on The Who coming. No obsession here. This is a part two of sorts. It's a continuation of the Who story that we started

• 12:21Jake Brennan?

  a while ago that centered around Keith Moon. Part two episode deals with the riverfront Colosseum tragedy, commonly referred to by mistake as a stampede. It was not a stampede. You're gonna have to listen to hear what I'm talking about and hear what this actually was. But when you're listening to the Who episode, be thinking about all the tragedies that we've talked about from rock and roll history. We've talked about a lot of them. And let me know, or anyone can be any rock and roll tragedy, even ones we haven't talked about. And let me know if the Who riverfront tragedy is the worst rock and roll tragedy in music history. And if not, what is? All right. We could do a whole season on this. I'm not going to, but it's interesting to talk about because the details are often horrific

• 13:02Jake Brennan?

  and just very vivid and great for storytelling. So call me with your answers or text them to me 617-906-6638. You might hear your voice and/or your answer on next week's bonus after party episode. You can also DM me your answers to the question of the week at disgracelandpod on the socials. Man. I got this song in my fucking head right now.

• 13:39Jake Brennan?

  What is that? What is that song? It sounds like a frigging 90's sitcom. What is that? What is that song? I don't hate it, but something tells me I hated it a long time ago. Let me know what I'm thinking about. All right, I gotta take a quick break. I need a drink, clearly. You can probably hear it in my voice. And I will be back in a flash with answers to your questions on the question of the week last week regarding itty bitty Bjork. And we will have your voicemails, your calls, your DMs, emails, and more. I'll be back in a flash.

• 14:15Jake Brennan?

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• 16:25Jake Brennan?

  All right, I'm back. Listen, Apple Podcast listeners, do me a favor. All right, make sure, go into the app, make sure you got auto downloads turned on. All right, that's going to ensure that you get all of our episodes delivered. You don't miss anything. All right. Sly Stone died this week, which is a real bummer. Sly Stone was an amazing artist, of course, a revolutionary artist, one of the greatest artists in my estimation to come out of the so-called peace and love generation, whatever you want to refer to it as. Sly, of course, had his demons well documented in our Disgrace and episode, but Sly also shows up in a couple other episodes, our Woodstock episode, our Who episode, the first Who episode.

• 17:07Jake Brennan?

  That's because the Sly and the Family Stone performance at Woodstock is the best performance at Woodstock. They went on super late and they just completely tore it up, owned the crowd, just incredible. Sly also shows up in one of our Fleetwood Mac episodes. I believe it's the one, I believe it's part two, when we get into the recording of Rumors. If memory serves, Lindsey Buckingham, they went up to, I believe it's in Salso Lido, is that where Sly had his studio? I'm not sure, somewhere in Northern California. And Sly had built this pit in the studio where he could lounge and listen to music and record. And there are all these kind of weird little additions to the studio that Sly had made that were sort of to, I don't know,

• 17:51Jake Brennan?

  enhance his state of mind, so to speak. Regardless of Disgrace and regardless of anything we do here, of course, Sly Stone is one of the greatest to do it ever, and he's left a tremendous legacy of music behind. Sly Stone, rest in peace.

• 18:09Jake Brennan?

  617-906-6638, hanging on the telephone with you guys. Every week, I'm in the phone booth, the same one. It's the one across the hall, hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail, you want to send me a text? All right, let's check out Eric. Eric, Eric, where you at? Eric in the 805.

• 18:26Speaker 08

  Hey, Jake. Eric from California, now in Tennessee. Um, love your show. Just listening to the Marilyn Manson episode. Um, love his first three albums. Knew about his accusations and weirdness, but after listening to your episode, oh my God, oh my God. Um, I don't know if I can listen to his music anymore. It, uh, yeah, um, yeah. Just, uh, wow.

• 19:06Jake Brennan?

  Uh, yeah, Eric, sounds like we fucked you up with that Marilyn Manson episode. Um, you know, take some time. Take some long baths, you know, clean yourself off. Get all that Manson filth off you. You might be able to come back to the music. Maybe, perhaps. We shall see. Thanks for the call, Eric. All right, let's check out Chips in the 303.

• 19:30Speaker 09

  Yo, this is Chips from the 303, your friendly neighborhood janitor, scrubbing floors. Uh, you were asking about crimey books a few weeks ago. I'm really behind on Bones episodes. I'm trying to catch up right now, but, uh, you asked for a few. I only got one. Lately, I've been reading books with my lady just outside on the porch while smoking or et cetera. Um, and The Lovely Bones is a really good book about, I mean, it's told from the perspective of a dead girl. So it's very existential and kind of crimey. I wouldn't say deeply crimey, but I mean, the, uh,

• 20:16Speaker 09

  The whole story revolves around the crime that was committed on her when she died. And it's, it's super cool, super emotional, a little bit hammy. Honestly, some parts of it can be like, uh, but it really grips your holes and got a good narrative. Anyway, check it out. Bye bye.

• 20:38Jake Brennan?

  Chips, thanks for the call. Appreciate you, man. Um, appreciate you listening to us while you're out there scrubbing the floors, doing the hard work. I had that job once as a young man back when I was in a band. So I know the sweat and the elbow grease and, uh, I love that we're in your ears while you're working. Someone's recommended this book before, The Lovely Bones. And what I love about how you set it up is it's a great what if, you know, it's sort of, I heard someone say once that to write a great book, you have to start with what if, and it has to be this like really insane thing. What if the dead person told the story of their murder? You know what I mean?

• 21:19Jake Brennan?

  It's a good, it's, it's good. So I'm intrigued. So I appreciate it, Chips. 617-906-6638. You guys want to leave me a voicemail? Give me a call. We can talk about anything. We can talk about Marilyn Manson. We can talk about Bjork. We can talk about the Pittsburgh Pirates. We can talk about the Philadelphia Phillies, which I don't understand why this is coming in, but hey, says from the 803 here, as a long suffering Phillies fan, I feel your pain with the Red Sox. All right, slow down. Long suffering Phillies fan. Didn't you guys win the World Series a couple of years ago? Aren't you in the playoffs like every fricking year? I don't know how the Phillies are doing this year. Not as bad as the Pirates, probably not as bad as the Red Sox either. They were doing pretty damn good last I checked, which was, I don't know, three, four weeks ago. 803 goes on

• 22:01Jake Brennan?

  to recommend some, uh, you know, some, uh, what is it? It's like, it's basically like a Red Sox snuff film. It's about game seven, 86. I'm good. I'm good. 803. My man Ish from the 781 Massachusetts. Hey, man, it's Ish. Hope all is well. Figured I'd share so much intrigue. It's a 1979 world champion Pittsburgh Pirates hat. Did you guys hear two after parties ago, for all the Pirates fans out there, two after parties ago, our very astute producer, Matt Bowden, at the end of the episode, the very end, after I read the billboard charts, Matt played a little bit of Pirates history. Now I heard it.

• 22:44Jake Brennan?

  And I meant to ask Matt what the hell that was because I had no idea. And then I spaced and I forgot about it and he brought it up. Hey, I wonder if any Pirates fans heard that and figured it out and none of you did. All you guys are sending me in pictures of your hats like Ish here with this 1979 World Championships, Pittsburgh Pirates T-shirt with the pillbox Pirates hat on it. Pictures of riverfront, whatever the hell that stadium is called. Is that what it's called? Paxon, what's it called? Tupac Stadium, Tupac Shakira Stadium in Pittsburgh. But no one picked up on that little bit of Pirates history that we had in the after-party for you guys. Go back and listen. Two after-parties ago, I believe it's the one, the after-party that came right after the Go-Go's episode.

• 23:27Jake Brennan?

  920 writes in, hey, I saw Nine Inch Nails Downward Spiral Tour with Manson in the Jim Rose Circus. Look into the Jim Rose Circus. Man, you don't need to tell me to look into the Jim Rose Circus. I saw the Jim Rose Circus as well. First Lollapalooza. Manson writes about that tour in the book. All right, 808 texts in in regards to this list that we talked about in the bonus section of last week's after-party. We talked about, it was a list we found of the worst bands of the 90s. It was a very interesting list for a bunch of reasons and one of them, I don't totally agree with 808 here, but 808 is saying, in regard to the worst bands of the 90s, I'll be one to say, I like music from all those bands and still listen to this day.

• 24:12Jake Brennan?

  This list just reflects how awesome the 90s were, if that's the worst. And that's a damn good point. Shane from the 816 writes in, hey Jake, it's Shane from the 816, worst band of the 90s as well as the 2000s and even the 80s is fucking ICP, hands down the worst shit ever. All caps. 816 has really worked up about ICP. I'm assuming ICP is Insane Clown Posse. Was Insane Clown Posse around in the 80s? We need to do an Insane Clown Posse episode. That's one of those subjects I'm not very familiar with and I'm kind of afraid of what the research is going to do to me, but I'm here for it.

• 24:54Jake Brennan?

  6179066638. You guys want to hit me up on voicemail, on text, hit me about anything you want to talk about. Insane clown posse, Pittsburgh Pirates, true crime, thrillers, novels. All right. Alan writes in, and that's A-L-L-Y-N, at DisgraceLandPod on Instagram. Hey, Alan from the 619. I've been a DisgraceLand fan since the very beginning, turning everyone I know onto your greatness. I grew up in Bakersfield, but now live in San Diego. And a while back, I was driving up to visit my parents, who still live there, and figured it would be the perfect time to re-listen to your Merle Haggard episode. I thought I'd have to dig through the archives, but wouldn't you know, it was that week's rewind episode, and there it was, at the top of the DisgraceLand feed. I timed it perfectly

• 25:38Jake Brennan?

  as I hit play, coming out of the mountains on the 99 freeway, transition at the base of the grapevine for the final 40-minute stretch. It ended right when I pulled up to their house, which happens to be right next to Merle's old part of town in Oildale. I took a screenshot of my phone to commemorate the occasion. And then he includes the screenshot here in the DM. And I think that's damn cool, Alan. Very cool. Guys want to hit me up about where you listen to DisgraceLand? Go ahead. You can do that on Instagram. You can do that 6179066638 by voicemail or text. I am around, and I'm looking forward to talking. What I don't want to talk about, though, is the Red Sox. But I gotta do it just a little. Matt, give me that. Give me the ticker. Here comes the, here it comes. It comes

• 26:20Jake Brennan?

  to sports rant, little 30-second sports rant. Now, listen, the Red Sox took two out of three from the Yankees. This is just to tease people. This isn't real. This is a sugar high. This is, they're not a good team. Okay. As much as it pains me to say that, they're not a good team. And you know how I know that? Because Raffi Devers is still on the team. And you know why I'm saying that? Because I don't like Raffi Devers. I think the guy, you know, I know, he hit a monster shot against the Yankees homerun, but you know what? He hit it after he dogged it to first base. He could have run that out. He could have easily had a hit. But no, no, it's just, it's indicative of his overall selfish bullshit play. If the guy would just fucking play.

• 27:04Jake Brennan?

  First base, so many of our problems would be solved. That's it, but he won't. And we're screwed because we don't have good leadership. And what can I say? The Red Sox, it's like the 1980s. No, worse than that, early 90s. That's what we're dealing with here. It's a bunch of bullshit. It's got to change. Help me change it. Don't make me a Pittsburgh Pirates fan. Please, please, I'm rooting for the Mets. I'm putting all my energy into rooting for the Mets right now. I say that, but I'm not. I haven't watched a Mets game since the last time we talked. But I don't know, man. I don't, the Red Sox.

• 27:41Jake Brennan?

  All right, I gotta stop talking. I'll be back in the flash with your talking, your emails, and a little bit of a Hollywood man.

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• 29:58Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywood Land Minute, brought to you by the Hollywood Land Podcast. Yes. Exciting news. I know, I brought it to you last week, but I'm gonna bring it to you again this week because I'm getting the message out, okay? I'm staying on message. We added bonus episodes to Hollywood Land. The Rap Party, and they're not the same as The After Party. These are different. This is me and my man Zeth sitting there every week chopping it up, talking about that episode, but also talking about our recommendations, what we're getting into as it relates to that Hollywood Land subject. This week, we got into John Belushi. Now, if you don't know what Hollywood Land is, it's Hollywood and true crime. It's very similar to Disgrace Land. I host the shows.

• 30:42Jake Brennan?

  The bonus episodes, however, are co-hosted, like I just said, by myself and my man Zeth. We have a ton of episodes in the archive, episodes on Drew Barrymore, John Waters, David Lynch, Jack Nicholson. Just this week, we've got our John Belushi episode in the feed. Check that out. We're gonna have a new bonus episode coming up. We're talking about, I'm talking about anyways, music that John Belushi inspired me to listen to. Zeth goes into a bunch of sort of great big man comics and big man stars from the past, and we get into the Belushi episode as well. Check this out. Go subscribe to Hollywood Land if you're not already. Here's a little taste of what I'm talking about.

• 31:22Jake Brennan?

  We may or may not know, I don't know how many of you know this, but in the early 80s, Fear, the punk band, played on SNL, right? Zeth, you're well aware of this.

• 31:30Speaker 10

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:32Jake Brennan?

  And Belushi was responsible for getting Fear the gig. And complete mayhem erupted when they played. All these kids started slam dancing. And now you're gonna think, this is like, Zeth, what year was this? Like 81? Something like that? It was so early.

• 31:46Speaker 10

  Yeah. 95% of your TV viewing audience at home had never seen shit like that before.

• 31:51Jake Brennan?

  So I thought I would, you know, for those of you who are interested in hardcore, this is a great introduction via, vis a vis John Belushi. And there's, if you want to hear some of the music made by the kids in that crowd, the New York Hardcore compilation on Revelation Records that came out, and I believe 1989, perhaps 88, it's called Where the Wild Things Are. It's a New York hardcore comp. Grab that. There's also this book, Zeth, you can see it's a book of photographs. If you're, if you're interested in the DC hardcore end of the spectrum, this is called Band in DC: Photos and Anecdotes from the DC Punk Underground, 1979 to 85. But these photos are amazing. You can see HR from the Bad Brains there on the back.

• 32:31Speaker 10

  Oh, cool.

• 32:31Jake Brennan?

  A bunch of these kids were in the SNL audience, rubbing shoulders up with John Belushi. All right, there you go. That's a little bit of Hollywoodland. Go subscribe to the Hollywoodland Podcast, wherever you get podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, whichever app you're into, iHeart, Amazon, Wondery. Go get it. As you just heard there, we did a little bit of the recommendations. I love the recommendations piece. I love talking recs. I love when you guys give me your recs. Gonna be doing a little bit more of that in the bonus section of this episode, this here after-party. Gonna be talking about books, little film, little, little film, little TV. Gonna get into it. I'm psyched. But if you're not a DisgraceLand All-Access member, you're gonna miss out on this. So the, those of you who don't know, five bucks a month, you get All-Access membership. You get a little bit more of the bonus episode here.

• 33:17Jake Brennan?

  You get ad-free listening to every episode, including the Hollywoodland episodes now. You're also going to get one additional full episode per month. Go to disgracelandpod.com/membership to hook that up. Guys, hit me up, [email protected]. Let me know what you think about anything. Hollywoodland, DisgraceLand, books you're reading, music you're listening to, where you're listening to DisgraceLand. I love those conversations. [email protected].

• 33:44Jake Brennan?

  This email comes from Alfie McTeague. Subject: Niche Punk Bands Under the Radar. "Hi there, I'm Alfie from here in England, Bournmouth." I know I'm not pronouncing that correctly. It's spelled B-O-U-R-N-E-M-O-U-T-H-I. I apologize for butchering the name of the town you're from Alfie." Alfie goes on to say, "I live here in England specifically, and was curious to whether you could look into some bands that have fallen into some obscurity over the years. The Mighty Mighty Boss Tones, Agent Orange, and Sloppy Seconds. I know the Boss Tones are very well-known in the US, but not so much in the UK." Well, I'm from Boston there Alfie, so they're very well-known to me. I've known some of those guys. I'm friends with a couple of them.

• 34:29Jake Brennan?

  "I first saw The Mighty Mighty Boss Tones play Alfie when I was 16-years-old at the Worcester Artist Group. My band, Cast Iron Hike, was lucky enough to play with The Boss Tones numerous times. I even had another band, I think, when I was in a band called The Whitey Bulgers, or maybe it was The Confidence Band. I think we played with The Boss Tones as well. Just the best fucking dudes." No crimes there, though, so I don't know. I don't think there's a Boss Tones episode coming anytime soon, but I'm happy to talk to you about them on the side here. You want to keep emailing me. Agent Orange and Sloppy Seconds, I don't know much about, but I will check into it. And if you Alfie know of any crimes related to those two bands you want me to look into that I can kind of write a story around, hit me back up, [email protected].

• 35:13Jake Brennan?

  Guys, this episode is nearing an end, but as I said earlier, the after-party continues for our All-Access members. Five bucks a month, you're gonna get this extra bonus section of the after-party. You're gonna get ad-free listening, and you're gonna get one extra full episode per month. Go to disgracelandpod.com/membership.

• 35:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Listen, tons of episodes in the archive, Disgrace Land, discos, the heads know this, but the new listeners, we've got over 235 episodes, full episodes for you to binge to check out on so many different artists. I usually recap here at the end of the show. I mention, just sort of bring attention to some of the artists we've talked about already in this episode, and if we've done episodes on them in the past, and we have, there's a whole bunch, a couple of them, Bruce Springsteen, Nirvana, we got two episodes on Nirvana, we've got a great episode on Pantera, there's a Blondie episode, no Suicide episode yet, but maybe someday there will be. All right, let's recap. I've got a lot to do today, still. I'm leaving tomorrow, I'm going on a little vacation,

• 36:28Jake Brennan?

  recording this episode a little early, still got to pack tonight, I gotta record a bunch of ads, and I'm gonna try to get a swim in, too. So, damn, I got a boogie. So, let's recap. Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, it's alive, and it is kicking hard over in the Hollywoodland feed. So, make sure you are subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts, and check out our recent Hollywoodland episode on John Belushi, and also, don't sleep on the rap party, me and Zeph chopping it up over there. Number two, right now in your Disgrace Land feed, our very latest, brand new, our episode on Bjork. Number three, coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Amy Winehouse. And next Tuesday, our part two on The Who, this one gets into the Riverfront Coliseum tragedy. Number four, merch winners getting touched, you know who

• 37:11Jake Brennan?

  you are. Shit, I forgot to read the reviews this week, damn it. I can't go back now. I can't. I can't. I shan't. I shunt. I fucked it up. Merch winners, there are none of you this week. Oh, well, we'll do it next week. All right, leave a review for Disgrace Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do, and well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Bjork, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the day Bjork was born on November 12, 1965.

• 37:49Jake Brennan?

  Number one, Get Off Of My Cloud, The Rolling Stones. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks on chart, six. Number two, A Lover's Concerto, The Toys. Last week, two. Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, ten. Number three, One, Two, Three, Len Barry. Last week, eight. Peak position, three. Weeks on chart, eight. Number four, You're The One, The Volks. Last week, six. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart, nine. Number five, I Hear A Symphony, The Supremes. Last week, five.

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