Second Helpings - P!nk

It’s the last in this summer’s serving of Second Helpings and we’re ending it with a true icon - for the start of series 15 we had Superstar P!nk pop round to mum’s for a perfectly ‘pink' meal of Pink Salmon with Salsa Verde followed by mum’s delicious Pink Raspberry & Champagne Possets. We had the best evening with P!nk who told us all about her magical live shows her love of Kugel & Matzo Ball soup while growing up the psychic she visited in Australia who revealed how her daughter and her go back lifetimes and being mistaken for Gwen Stefani in a supermarket. Thanks to my new bestie for popping round to Clapham for dinner! Next time you’re not allowed to leave! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 2:10Jessie Ware?

  Hello and welcome to Second Helpings with me Jessie and Lennie Ware. And we're finishing off this Second Helpings.

• 2:17Speaker 04

  With a big one.

• 2:18Jessie Ware?

  Well, she was actually the season opener on season 15 back in February 2023.

• 2:25Speaker 04

  She had a bit of an entourage that came to the house.

• 2:27Jessie Ware?

  But I forgave her because she was just the most fantastic guest. She was so warm, it's pink. And Mum, what did you do for the menu?

• 2:35Speaker 04

  I did a pink meal.

• 2:36Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, now that I think about that, it's kind of bonkers.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  What was it, salmon?

• 2:41Jessie Ware?

  You did pink salmon with salsa verde?

• 2:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:44Jessie Ware?

  Well, pink and green go very well together.

• 2:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, they do, darling.

• 2:47Jessie Ware?

  Pink raspberry and champagne posset.

• 2:49Speaker 04

  And I put little hearts on them with raspberry dust.

• 2:53Jessie Ware?

  We really liked pink, didn't we?

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, we did. She was one of the warmest people.

• 2:58Jessie Ware?

  She really was. No nonsense.

• 2:59Speaker 04

  No nonsense, very straightforward, adores her children.

• 3:03Jessie Ware?

  Pink coming up on Second Helpings.

• 3:09Jessie Ware?

  We have Pink here in Clapham, looking just how I expected her to look. She's here, you're in the flesh, the quip's there, you're rock and roll, you've walked in, you've hugged everybody, everyone loves you, you smell great and you're here.

• 3:24Speaker 05

  I smell great.

• 3:25Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 3:26Speaker 05

  I worked on that.

• 3:29Jessie Ware?

  How is London so far? I know you've had a full day and I'm sorry.

• 3:33Speaker 05

  I'm so happy, are you kidding me?

• 3:34Jessie Ware?

  Well, hopefully you can relax.

• 3:35Speaker 05

  It's not often I get to go to someone's home in London.

• 3:37Speaker 04

  And drink wine.

• 3:38Speaker 05

  And drink wine and get cooked for. This is amazing. I'm good. I landed yesterday, the flight was easy, the seat was comfortable. It's the first time I've been away from my kids in a very, very, very, very, very long time.

• 3:50Jessie Ware?

  How did that feel?

• 3:51Speaker 05

  I woke up this morning and my first thought was, where am I? And my second thought was, I might have a panic attack because I'm not used to being away from my children.

• 4:00Jessie Ware?

  So you didn't?

• 4:01Speaker 05

  Which proves the codependency is real.

• 4:04Jessie Ware?

  So now I feel slightly guilty that when I was in South America away from them, I woke up and thought, I'm gonna have a little fart in bed and then I'm gonna watch a bit of Netflix.

• 4:17Jessie Ware?

  And I'm gonna go to the gym and I'm not, I'm gonna.

• 4:18Speaker 05

  I don't know how to function without them.

• 4:21Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 4:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, we're just like, we just move through the world together.

• 4:24Jessie Ware?

  And that's what I saw in the documentary. But there was that beautiful. We'll drink through it. I can bring some of my kids, you can put them to bed if you want.

• 4:33Speaker 05

  They're sick right now too. So I was caring for them all week and then I left them with dad and I'm like, God bless us all. I hope this goes well.

• 4:42Jessie Ware?

  Are they feeling a bit better today?

• 4:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're getting better. Yeah, or I wouldn't have come. Yeah.

• 4:46Jessie Ware?

  Noro or something.

• 4:47Speaker 05

  I don't know. They're, they're just little Petri dishes.

• 4:50Jessie Ware?

  They really are. And you know what? It's that thing. It's like domino where one gets one. You go, right, I've got to wake another week and then the next one we get.

• 4:57Speaker 05

  And when I'm on tour, I'm like, oh, cool. So I'm not singing in five days. Awesome.

• 5:01Jessie Ware?

  That's what I found. The documentary, which I just told you, I adored and I aspire to have that level of touring where we're not all. Well, I mean, I tried to take in my daughter at eighteen months and she had like the star room and I was in the bunk, which is fine. First time having a star room and my eighteen month girl just got it with my husband. But I thought it just, you looked like you were having, I, no doubt, it was so hard. And there was a bit where Jameson got sick and you were like on the phone to the doctor and you had like a gig the next day. But you still, still would of course prefer them to, did you always tour in the summer so that they can be there? Cause it's like summer holidays.

• 5:43Speaker 05

  They've always had tutors. When I'm on tour, they're homeschooled. Yeah, I mean, we've always just gone together and it's, you, no one wants to hear me complain, but touring as a mom is, it's impossible. It's absolutely impossible. It's not even a good idea, but we do it because it's what we're gonna do. And I've had to explain to the, no offence, but I've had to explain to the men many times that, you know, mostly and not always, not always, because there are single dads out there. But they go to work and close the door behind them and then don't think about their kids until they're home. And for me, I it's all I think about, like, there's no door that I walk through. They just, I literally can't even go to the bathroom alone.

• 6:28Speaker 05

  They're just, they sleep in my bed.

• 6:29Speaker 04

  How old's your youngest?

• 6:30Speaker 05

  Six. They still sleep in my bed.

• 6:33Speaker 04

  Really?

• 6:34Speaker 05

  And, yeah, we're just.

• 6:36Speaker 04

  Jesse wouldn't have that, would you, darling?

• 6:38Speaker 05

  I love it, but I'm a worrier, so it's easier to just reach over and take their temperature with my hand than it is to have to get up out of bed, go to their room. We put Willow in her room when she was three and Carrie and I looked at each other and I was like, and he goes, you should go get her. I'll go get her. This was a terrible idea. She's so far away. And then she's closer to the front door. If someone were to come in, they would hit her room first. I'm like,

• 7:03Speaker 04

  Oh, my gosh.

• 7:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, no, this is what, yeah, I'm Jewish. Oh, yeah.

• 7:07Speaker 04

  Do you have a mirror by her breath?

• 7:09Speaker 05

  I used to. I used to, yep. I used to like pray over this girl when she was a baby. I actually have a really weird story if you want to hear it.

• 7:18Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 7:18Speaker 05

  Okay, so I think in hindsight, I had postpartum.

• 7:21Speaker 04

  Right, okay.

• 7:22Speaker 05

  And it's sort of to me felt like you're under, you don't realize you're under a cloud until the sun starts shining. That's how I describe it. And I was so, I had never known love like that. I'd never known real, real love.

• 7:34Speaker 04

  Amazing.

• 7:35Speaker 05

  Become a a mom and I was so afraid of losing her, like crazy afraid, psychotic kind of afraid, just not normal afraid. I don't know what normal is, but I would pray and tell God, like, take me a thousand times before you take her. Like, just please let her be okay. Please let her be okay.

• 7:54Speaker 04

  Was she at this point?

• 7:55Speaker 05

  A baby. I was really afraid of SIDS, which is sudden infant death SIDS, like all these things. My mind was just, and I I I would like to be able to excuse it as postpartum. I don't know. Then I'm touring. She's fourteen months old. We've been on the road for about five months. Um, I'm exhausted. I haven't slept. I didn't sleep the first fourteen months of her life. I go to my my girls, my band and dancers, my women.

• 8:18Speaker 04

  Who've been with you for a very long time, yeah.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  I haven't told anybody this. I I'm completely ashamed of my of what I'm doing at night, that I'm staying, I'm not sleeping and.

• 8:29Speaker 05

  One by one, the women of my crew come into me and say, there's this card reader in Adelaide, Australia, you have to go and see her. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. So I go, and it's literally like the movie Ghost. It's you're like, you're you go in a crystal shop in this strip mall, and then you go about down the back stairs and you're in a tapestry warehouse and you think Whoopi Goldberg's gonna come out from behind the sheets, like, put a penny up the wall. But this little Australian lady comes out and and she's shuffling the cards and she puts them down and she says, I just want to tell you, I know who you are. I'm not gonna give you a card and say, I see a microphone. I know. She's like, here's what I know about you, because I don't listen to popular music, so I don't know your songs.

• 9:11Speaker 05

  But I know that you're a singer. I know that you're on the road. I know that your band and dancers have all been to see me, and I know that they love you very much. And I know that you have a child, and that's what I know about you. I was like, great, thank you. Then she shuffles the cards again and she puts them down, and I swear to you, the mohawk on the back of my neck went up, and she said, that praying you've been doing over your daughter Willow, I can explain it if you'd like. And I was like,

• 9:34Speaker 04

  God.

• 9:35Speaker 05

  What?

• 9:36Speaker 04

  My.

• 9:36Speaker 05

  And she goes, do you believe in reincarnation? I said, yes, actually, I do. And she said, well, you and Willow's lifetimes go back to Celtic times together, like sixteen thousand lifetimes together or something. She said, so in some of those lives, you've lost each other, and sometimes tragically. She's like, so that's what you're feeling. She's like, I can't tell you about the next one, but I can tell you for this one, you can put that down. For this one, you're like puppies, and it's a joyous coming back together, and for this one, it's gonna be okay. And I literally like, I was dehydrated from crying, and I took the invisible elephant off my shoulders and put it down, and she goes, is there anything else I can do for you?

• 10:15Speaker 05

  I was like, no. And I walked out of there a different parent. I knew in the marrow of my bones that what she was telling me was true. I believed it to be true. And so it it just changed everything. I have a little more faith in the universe now. Have you been to see her again?

• 10:31Speaker 04

  No.

• 10:31Speaker 05

  Would you ever?

• 10:32Speaker 04

  Oh, absolutely. See if there's a rich husband there.

• 10:37Speaker 05

  Way to lighten up, way to lighten things up. Thanks.

• 10:40Jessie Ware?

  How old were you then?

• 10:41Speaker 05

  Eleven.

• 10:42Jessie Ware?

  And do you go to synagogue, temple?

• 10:44Speaker 05

  No.

• 10:45Jessie Ware?

  Are you religious?

• 10:46Speaker 05

  Not really. I don't, I don't, we practice, like, we light the candles for Hanukkah. And I sell, I cook the meals and we celebrate certain things. We celebrate Christmas. I'll celebrate literally anything. Anything. I love lighting the candles and singing the songs and cooking the food and making challah and all that. But I don't actually believe in organized religion. I believe in spirituality and God and the universe and whatever that means. But I just don't believe that one group is right and everybody else is wrong.

• 11:13Jessie Ware?

  So how were you brought up Jewish, like within your family, your mother?

• 11:17Speaker 05

  Hanukkah.

• 11:17Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 11:18Speaker 05

  That's it. Hanukkah. My mom's parents disowned her for marrying a Catholic. And my dad was a Catholic atheist who went to Vietnam and, and went to Catholic school and says the nuns prepared him for Vietnam. So my house was just, we were wild.

• 11:31Jessie Ware?

  And, and let's talk about that wild house full of lots of different beliefs and faith.

• 11:37Speaker 05

  Cuggles. Full of Cuggles and matzo ball soup.

• 11:42Jessie Ware?

  Was it, was it good eating?

• 11:43Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 11:44Jessie Ware?

  What's a really memorable dish from your, like, who was cooking?

• 11:47Speaker 05

  Okay, if my dad cooked?

• 11:48Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  It would be spaghetti with bacon bits on top.

• 11:52Jessie Ware?

  Was it delicious? Well, like the ones that you got in like the carton, the bacon bit, yes.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Oh, not carbonara?

• 11:58Jessie Ware?

  No, but you're getting like them in like pizza hot, like you put them on your, in the salad bar.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  Tasty.

• 12:03Speaker 05

  I mean delicious. God bless him, he tried, but.

• 12:06Jessie Ware?

  Like a kind of carbonara?

• 12:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, like marinara. Okay, got it. Okay, got it.

• 12:11Speaker 04

  Carbonara.

• 12:12Speaker 05

  No, it's not.

• 12:13Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 12:14Speaker 05

  Um, I grew up on TV dinners, like the microwavable frozen Stouffer's TV dinners.

• 12:21Jessie Ware?

  Did you love them?

• 12:22Speaker 05

  No. No, you can't love paper mashed potatoes and frozen corn.

• 12:28Jessie Ware?

  Were your parents working?

• 12:29Speaker 05

  Yes, and going to school. Well, yes, my parents both worked and then my mom went to school at night.

• 12:34Jessie Ware?

  What did she study?

• 12:36Speaker 05

  She was an ER nurse and she went to nurse, back to school to, uh, that's a great question. I've never asked her what she was doing.

• 12:43Jessie Ware?

  She was learning how to be a nurse?

• 12:45Speaker 05

  She was, she was already a nurse, but she was, I think she was just trying to move up a level. And then she was a single mom from when I was eight.

• 12:52Jessie Ware?

  Was that tough?

• 12:53Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. My dad was my person.

• 12:56Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 12:56Speaker 05

  He was my everything. Yeah. He was like, he was God to me. Yeah.

• 13:02Jessie Ware?

  Is he?

• 13:04Speaker 05

  Passed a year and a half ago.

• 13:05Jessie Ware?

  I'm so sorry.

• 13:07Speaker 05

  It's okay.

• 13:08Jessie Ware?

  It's okay. You do, you do a lot of cooking with James.

• 13:12Speaker 05

  Do I do a lot?

• 13:13Jessie Ware?

  I've seen it on Instagram.

• 13:14Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 13:15Jessie Ware?

  So is he the chef?

• 13:16Speaker 05

  No. He likes to help.

• 13:19Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 05

  Willow is actually thinking about being a chef, although she won't crack an egg. So I'm like, I don't know. I don't think you're gonna be very good.

• 13:25Jessie Ware?

  Get their hands messy. I'm like, babes, you're gonna have to, yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was like, get your hands in there. It's meatloaf. She's like, mm, that's a hard no.

• 13:33Jessie Ware?

  But Willow, I mean, both your children, from what I understand of them, they're very talented.

• 13:39Speaker 05

  I mean, I think so.

• 13:40Jessie Ware?

  But of course, but like they're they're they've kind of taken on.

• 13:43Speaker 05

  Like, how proud are you?

• 13:44Jessie Ware?

  No, but I mean, you know, but she's got a son that's a doctor. So really like, come on.

• 13:49Speaker 05

  Oh, that's a Jewish mother's dream.

• 13:51Speaker 04

  That actually eclipses Jessie's achievements.

• 13:54Speaker 05

  My mom still wants me to leave my husband and marry a Jewish.

• 13:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course they do. Who doesn't?

• 14:00Speaker 05

  So that's seventeen years in.

• 14:02Jessie Ware?

  Um, but you know, Willow sings beautifully.

• 14:05Speaker 05

  Beautifully.

• 14:06Jessie Ware?

  Does that terrify you?

• 14:07Speaker 05

  No, she sits next to me on the way to school and just it's so effortless with her. I never sounded that good when I was her age. Ever. I still don't sound that good. I promise you, my voice is a culmination of just hitting the pavement and learning how to be a live performer. But her voice is like, she's like a little bird. It's just effortless and she doesn't care at all. She's not into it. Like she just does it because she likes to do it. But people will ask her, are you gonna be a singer? And she's like, oh, God, no. I'm like, first of all, why do you have to say it like that?

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Is she bright?

• 14:41Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah, she's a straight A student.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  So what would you want for her?

• 14:45Speaker 05

  I want her to be a lawyer for the ACLU so she can change the world and then bail her brother out of jail.

• 14:52Speaker 04

  Because he's not going that same direction.

• 14:55Speaker 05

  DJ in Vegas.

• 14:56Speaker 04

  He's gonna be.

• 14:58Speaker 04

  Well, he'll do alright. He'll make a lot of money.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  I don't actually know what he's gonna do, but he is a comedian.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  But, but I think I watched the wrong doc- Jessie said there's this amazing documentary about Pink, and I think I watched the wrong documentary.

• 15:12Speaker 05

  Cause you hated it?

• 15:13Jessie Ware?

  I didn't know you had so many documentaries.

• 15:15Speaker 05

  I didn't either.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  There was two kind of stylists from London, and one that, and he talked about, um, it was made in twenty thirteen.

• 15:24Jessie Ware?

  Not wrong. It was just different.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  It wasn't, it was different, but it talked about you being a handful.

• 15:30Jessie Ware?

  I've never heard of it.

• 15:31Speaker 04

  Growing up.

• 15:33Jessie Ware?

  What was your mu- was your mum interviewed?

• 15:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, that you were, you were.

• 15:36Jessie Ware?

  This is not the documentary that I saw on Alison Park. Where the fuck did you get this, mum?

• 15:41Speaker 04

  I watched it last night, don't I?

• 15:42Speaker 05

  Well, anyway. Oh, I need to see this. I was a total handful. I'm still a handful.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Are you?

• 15:47Speaker 05

  I'm two handfuls.

• 15:48Speaker 04

  Who has to handle you now?

• 15:50Speaker 05

  Carrie.

• 15:51Jessie Ware?

  Carrie, I love, I love the look of.

• 15:54Speaker 05

  He's fine. He's, he's, he's fine. He's doing alright. Well, I wanna, I wanna come back as Carrie Hart.

• 16:01Speaker 05

  Dude doesn't know where the trash goes.

• 16:04Jessie Ware?

  Oh, see, you know what? That's amazing, cause, um, yeah, I, I'm, I'm obsessed. Right. I'd like to know.

• 16:11Speaker 05

  He's pretty. He's, he's very pretty.

• 16:13Jessie Ware?

  He's gorgeous.

• 16:14Speaker 05

  Yes. I told him, I said.

• 16:16Jessie Ware?

  And he rides fast?

• 16:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, he rides fast.

• 16:19Jessie Ware?

  And he's, I mean, in the documentary, he came across as a fantastic father.

• 16:24Speaker 04

  Of course he did. He was a fantastic father. Pink's staying true.

• 16:28Speaker 05

  Never heard of it.

• 16:29Jessie Ware?

  Oh my god, mum, what have you said?

• 16:31Speaker 04

  No, it's this pop music icon, Pink recalls her life. Rise to fame, ch-.

• 16:36Speaker 05

  I had nothing to do with it.

• 16:39Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 16:40Speaker 05

  But I loved that they said I was a handful. Of course I was.

• 16:42Speaker 04

  But it was two very strange, unusual women that were talking. One was a stylist.

• 16:48Jessie Ware?

  God, get the lawyers quickly!

• 16:50Speaker 05

  That is so funny.

• 16:52Speaker 04

  But that's the one I was on Netflix.

• 16:54Speaker 05

  We're gonna have to watch that. Well, no, there's, um, Amazon Prime has my real documentary.

• 16:59Speaker 04

  Which is fantastic.

• 17:00Jessie Ware?

  I didn't.

• 17:01Speaker 04

  Sam did.

• 17:02Jessie Ware?

  Well, Sam, he's again, he's stupid.

• 17:04Speaker 04

  But can I just tell you, you look gorgeous.

• 17:08Jessie Ware?

  That's gonna be your, uh, can't wait to watch your documentary.

• 17:11Speaker 04

  You're not fabulous. Your hair, does it, what do you use on the top?

• 17:16Speaker 05

  Olaplex.

• 17:17Jessie Ware?

  Olaplex!

• 17:19Speaker 04

  That's what I need.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 17:21Speaker 04

  I need a little.

• 17:21Speaker 05

  That's it. Yeah, it's good.

• 17:23Speaker 04

  You've got great hair. Yeah, always looks good.

• 17:25Speaker 05

  I have Jufro. I have like, if that's why.

• 17:28Speaker 04

  Have you?

• 17:28Speaker 05

  The sides short, because if I had this much hair, it would be a hot mess.

• 17:34Jessie Ware?

  Let's talk about the new song that's with Fred. You made it with Fred. Fred again, we have to call him, but it's Fred. Um, gorgeous Fred. And who was the other person that was?

• 17:43Speaker 05

  Johnny McDade from Snow Patrol.

• 17:44Jessie Ware?

  Oh, who's so lovely.

• 17:46Speaker 05

  Who I did, uh, What About Us with.

• 17:48Speaker 04

  Is he the one that goes out with a lady from Friends?

• 17:50Jessie Ware?

  He's also a very talented songwriter mother.

• 17:53Speaker 04

  Snow Patrol. She likes a little bit of goss.

• 17:55Speaker 05

  Courtney Cox, yeah.

• 17:56Speaker 04

  She's a, you know, Daily Mail over here.

• 17:59Speaker 05

  And he is a delicious human and Fred again is a delicious human.

• 18:03Jessie Ware?

  Was it fun writing the song?

• 18:04Speaker 05

  They're very dreamy. Yeah.

• 18:06Jessie Ware?

  They're talented. You're talented.

• 18:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, but they're the kind of men that like are open about their feelings and they're affectionate with each other. And it's just, oh, it's so nice to be around.

• 18:16Speaker 04

  It was a good twenty four hours, I think.

• 18:18Speaker 05

  I mean, it could have been better.

• 18:21Speaker 05

  Wait, I'm married.

• 18:23Speaker 04

  You've been married a hundred years.

• 18:25Speaker 05

  I know, and I've never cheated.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  Have you not?

• 18:28Speaker 05

  Not ever.

• 18:28Speaker 04

  Have you, Jess?

• 18:29Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 18:30Speaker 04

  Of course not.

• 18:31Jessie Ware?

  I'm coming up to twenty years with my husband.

• 18:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:33Jessie Ware?

  But not years of marriage. We got married, but like.

• 18:36Speaker 05

  No, I've been with Carrie twenty one years. Marriage is long, you guys.

• 18:39Jessie Ware?

  You know what? I got sent today for Valentine's. Durex sent me a vibrator. I think I'm gonna have a very happy Valentine's.

• 18:47Speaker 05

  Good for you.

• 18:48Jessie Ware?

  More than I'm gonna get off my husband. I know.

• 18:51Speaker 05

  WebMD wished me a happy birthday.

• 18:54Speaker 04

  But they didn't give you a vibrator?

• 18:56Speaker 05

  They didn't give me a vibrator. I was like, how do they know my birthday? Oh, cause I check WebMD a lot. I'm a hypochondriac.

• 19:05Jessie Ware?

  Are you?

• 19:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  Are you?

• 19:07Speaker 05

  Oh, if it can go wrong, it's gonna go terribly.

• 19:09Speaker 04

  Really? You go up on a bloody trapeze and you sink upside down.

• 19:15Speaker 05

  Thank you. I'm uh yeah, but I'm also very, very flawed and human. And I'm I fear like I don't believe in being fearless. I believe in having fear and then pushing through it and doing the thing anyway. As long as fear doesn't make your decisions for you, then you're okay.

• 19:32Speaker 04

  Is this what trust falls about?

• 19:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah. Trust fall is absolutely about living with immense fear. And I think if you're a person that lives in twenty twenty three, there's a lot to be afraid of. And I know a lot of kids and they all have anxiety now and it's. It's really, I'm very into psychology and I've been in therapy for twenty some years, so I'm super into the way the mind works and all of that and the science of it and.

• 19:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm like trust falls like me saying, and there's another uh song on the album called turbulence, which is basically me talking my daughter through a panic attack. And it's it's like as scary as it gets, remember it's just turbulence. You know, close your eyes, pretend you're driving on a bumpy road at night, like it's just. And then my favorite line in that song is when you say that you can't, I will watch you dance through this turbulence. Because it's not about denying all the things that are really happening in the world.

• 20:26Speaker 04

  But you're going to be that supporter.

• 20:28Speaker 05

  But I'm gonna be there to support her and I'm also gonna take the leap myself. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get out of bed in the morning and I'm gonna put one foot in front of the other and I'm gonna love and I'm gonna laugh, I'm gonna dance. I'm also gonna worry, I'm gonna drop you off at school, hope for the best. And then we're gonna tour through the world after a pandemic, like, you know, shit is crazy.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  Pandemic was something, wasn't it?

• 20:53Speaker 05

  And then monkeypox, people started saying, how are you? I'm like, well, I mean monkeypox.

• 21:00Speaker 05

  But you, aren't we all just fine?

• 21:03Speaker 04

  But you all. You cheers. Yeah.

• 21:05Jessie Ware?

  You are, you are, I've got to remember, I am driving, so I need to rein it in in a minute, but you don't.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  I have decided, I've always moaned about getting old, because it's very hard when you're young and gorgeous to get old. And I've just decided, getting old, no, getting old's a privilege.

• 21:21Speaker 05

  It is a blessing.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  It's actually a privilege, I'm not ever gonna moan about it, I've got friends that have gone.

• 21:29Speaker 05

  I say that to people every year on my birthday.

• 21:32Speaker 04

  It is a privilege to get old, isn't it?

• 21:34Speaker 05

  That's an absolute blessing, and people that don't wanna celebrate their birthday or talk about old there, I'm like, dude, you're lucky.

• 21:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, you are.

• 21:40Speaker 05

  My friend Seku, when he was seventeen years old, you're lucky, you're lucky to be forty-three. Yeah, I love that. My mom's seventy-six, and I'm like, happy birthday, wow, you did it.

• 21:52Speaker 04

  Where does she live now?

• 21:53Speaker 05

  She lives in Florida, cause she's like every east coast Jew.

• 21:59Speaker 05

  Well, we're from Pennsylvania, and she's like, I don't want to live there. And now it's. It's so hard.

• 22:05Speaker 04

  I love song.

• 22:06Speaker 05

  Shut up, Judy.

• 22:09Jessie Ware?

  Well, can Judy sing?

• 22:11Speaker 05

  No. My mom goes to piano bars and drinks gin and tonics and sings, you got the right key, but the wrong keyhole. Baby, your key don't fit my lock no more.

• 22:23Jessie Ware?

  I love Judy.

• 22:24Speaker 05

  She's upside down on a piano.

• 22:26Speaker 04

  Oh, I want to meet her.

• 22:31Speaker 05

  The first time she met my husband, who was not my husband at the time, we'd been dating a month. I took him to the piano bar where she was at, and she literally grabbed his shirt and put it up around his head, turned him around and grabbed his ass and said, you got a good one. I'm like, oh my god, this is my mom.

• 22:49Jessie Ware?

  Oh my word. And he's still with you. What was the food at your wedding?

• 22:53Speaker 05

  That's a great question.

• 22:55Jessie Ware?

  Can you remember, did you eat any of it?

• 22:57Speaker 05

  No recollection.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  Where did you get? Where did you get married? Where we married?

• 23:02Speaker 05

  Costa Rica. Oh, nice. Yeah.

• 23:04Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 23:05Speaker 05

  Well, I don't know if you can curse on your show, but and we don't wanna come in your home and say a bad, bad word. It's got, don't worry. But my dad walked me down the aisle and we used to smoke. And we were standing up, it was on the beach and Carrie was on the beach in a full suit, sweating. Wasn't sure if he was sweating because he was hot or because he was worried about his life decisions. But my dad, I was like, oh God, he's been standing there for 15 minutes. And I start putting my cigarette out and my dad pulls another cigarette out of his pack and puts it in my mouth and lights it and says, that motherfucker can wait. And I was like, dad, okay.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  He's got the right idea.

• 23:49Speaker 05

  I was like, you're a gangster.

• 23:51Speaker 04

  Treat him mean, keep him keen, huh?

• 23:54Speaker 05

  I need to know what your children's parties are like. I need to know whether it's just this rock and roll the whole time. We have a really good time. Willow and I have such an open, fun, like in an hour, I'm gonna call her on FaceTime and we're gonna read our book together. She's just darling, she's so sweet. And he's just an idiot. Like I, in a good way, I love my kid, he knows that I say that lovingly, but I call him and I'm like, hey, man. He's like, hey, sup? I'm like, um, how's your day? Good. How do you feel? How's your cough? Good. Uh, what are you doing? Dance break. I'm like, okay, just pass the phone. I need Willow. I need Willow. Willow, talk to me about your feelings.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  Do you think you'll have any more?

• 24:38Speaker 05

  I wish. I would adopt 80,000 children if I could. I don't think they'd give them to me.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  I have a past. I, honestly, people have never been.

• 24:52Jessie Ware?

  So excited about hearing that we've got you in.

• 24:54Speaker 04

  I know, I must have about twenty people, Petra from Nordic Balance. I can't believe it, God, I can't believe it. What was going on?

• 25:04Speaker 05

  It's so fun. I loved, I was, we talked last night about the most thing, the thing we were most excited about today and it was this. I was like, I can't wait to go to a home in London, cause I'm not.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  Would you like some food?

• 25:17Speaker 05

  Sure, thank you.

• 25:18Jessie Ware?

  I, um, am I allowed to call you? What do people call you?

• 25:22Speaker 05

  Everything. I answer to anything. I've been called a lot of things too.

• 25:28Speaker 05

  I'm like, yep, that's also true.

• 25:30Speaker 04

  So let me just tell you what I've made.

• 25:31Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  Because.

• 25:33Jessie Ware?

  It's accidental.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  With a pink meal.

• 25:35Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 25:36Speaker 04

  This was accidental. Because you wanted salmon.

• 25:38Speaker 05

  Love salmon.

• 25:39Speaker 04

  Right, so I've done salmon with salsa verde and very salty potatoes that are these shrivelly up to here.

• 25:45Jessie Ware?

  They sound sad, but they're actually quite, well, hopefully they're quite delicious. They're kind of like, have you ever been to the Canary Islands?

• 25:51Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:52Jessie Ware?

  And had a wrinkly potato?

• 25:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:53Jessie Ware?

  That's what you're getting. So we're having that and then followed by a raspberry and champagne pink posset.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Raspberry.

• 26:03Jessie Ware?

  Have you ever had a posset?

• 26:04Speaker 04

  Posset, no.

• 26:05Jessie Ware?

  It's like a creamy delicious thing and mum's put a little love heart on the top with pretty dried. I mean, you know, happy Valentine.

• 26:11Speaker 05

  So spoiled.

• 26:13Jessie Ware?

  No, we are spoilt to have you.

• 26:14Speaker 05

  I was trying to make a grilled cheese, I make homemade sourdough and I was trying to make Willow her favorite sandwich, a grilled cheese sourdough and I took the bread knife and went straight down underneath my beautiful nail. Had to go to the hospital and they didn't even have, they didn't even have.

• 26:29Jessie Ware?

  You went to the hospital?

• 26:30Speaker 05

  I went to the hospital and they wouldn't even give me a stitch and my husband drove me and I was like, you better give me a stitch.

• 26:35Jessie Ware?

  Just so I make it worth my while. So that's the hyper, no, it hurt, it was hurting.

• 26:41Speaker 05

  Hurt. I thought my finger was gonna fall.

• 26:43Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  I just hid a band-aid.

• 26:46Jessie Ware?

  I pressed the salad, but it's very lightly dressed.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  Why do we say that? Where does that come from?

• 26:50Jessie Ware?

  Dressing a salad, I know, it's so over the top, isn't it? It's really over the top.

• 26:55Speaker 05

  I love knowing where things come from.

• 26:56Jessie Ware?

  So, so you, you make sourdough? Was that a lockdown thing that started?

• 27:00Speaker 05

  Yes, absolutely.

• 27:01Jessie Ware?

  And you've kept it going.

• 27:02Speaker 05

  My starter is three years old.

• 27:03Jessie Ware?

  What's its name?

• 27:04Speaker 05

  Quarantina.

• 27:05Jessie Ware?

  Quarantina.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  Pink, do you like salsa verde?

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 27:10Speaker 04

  Do you want me to call you Alicia?

• 27:11Speaker 05

  You can call me anything you like, whatever.

• 27:13Jessie Ware?

  I mean, in my heart of hearts, I want to be able to say that I can be like, oh, me and Alicia hang out.

• 27:18Speaker 05

  I can be Alicia. I'm Alicia. I never felt like an Alicia until I became a mom. It's a very strange thing.

• 27:24Jessie Ware?

  So what do the parents at school call you?

• 27:26Speaker 05

  Alicia.

• 27:27Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 27:27Speaker 05

  Or Mrs. Hart.

• 27:30Speaker 05

  People don't really, I mean, do we ever call each other by our names?

• 27:33Jessie Ware?

  It's like Willow's mum, isn't it?

• 27:34Speaker 05

  Like, what's up, bra?

• 27:35Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, hi babe. Right, mate. That's really good, but you can't remember somebody's name. You go, hi babe.

• 27:39Speaker 05

  Yeah. Hi babe.

• 27:41Jessie Ware?

  So you make sourdough?

• 27:43Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 27:43Jessie Ware?

  You obviously make, you're, you're a gifted human.

• 27:46Speaker 05

  I cook.

• 27:47Jessie Ware?

  You're a good cook.

• 27:48Speaker 05

  Cook every night.

• 27:48Jessie Ware?

  So if we were coming round to yours. What would we be eating?

• 27:53Speaker 05

  I would ask you what you eat first, because everybody's nuts.

• 27:56Jessie Ware?

  Everything.

• 27:57Speaker 05

  That looks beautiful.

• 27:58Jessie Ware?

  You know what?

• 27:59Speaker 05

  I love peas on a salad.

• 28:01Jessie Ware?

  Thank god I did it right at the nick of time, mum. So.

• 28:05Speaker 05

  I would make you a farro salad.

• 28:06Jessie Ware?

  Okay, lovely.

• 28:07Speaker 05

  Um, it's my, it's recipe from my favourite restaurant in New York, Charlie Burge.

• 28:12Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I haven't been.

• 28:12Speaker 05

  It's the farro salad. It's an Italian wine list. Farro salad's my favourite. It's delicious.

• 28:17Jessie Ware?

  Lovely.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  I would make you maybe some shoyu chicken, if you like that, or some salmon, because I make damn good salmon.

• 28:26Jessie Ware?

  Oh shit, okay, no pressure, mum. How do you make your salmon?

• 28:30Speaker 05

  I pan sear it.

• 28:31Jessie Ware?

  Okay. This wasn't panned sear?

• 28:34Speaker 05

  Thank you so much. I like it all.

• 28:37Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 28:37Speaker 05

  I like it all.

• 28:39Jessie Ware?

  So, this is okay, so you're making an effort. Are you a pudding kind of person, I mean, a dessert person? We don't say, you, yeah, you've been here long enough, but you know, thanks mum.

• 28:48Speaker 05

  Uh, I am more of like a salt person. Thank you. Salt and carbs.

• 28:54Jessie Ware?

  Salt and carbs.

• 28:55Speaker 05

  Like, I would rather have the cheese and the wine or the beer than the dessert.

• 29:00Jessie Ware?

  Me too.

• 29:02Speaker 04

  But you're gonna have to have some pink posset.

• 29:03Speaker 05

  I'm gonna have some pink posset. I like posset.

• 29:06Speaker 04

  It's an English thing, posset.

• 29:08Speaker 05

  I know.

• 29:08Speaker 04

  Do they have it in America?

• 29:09Speaker 05

  My, our nanny is English, um, was. Uh, she passed away eight months after my dad. No, it's been a row, it's been a row of years. But she, uh, was always asking me for black pudding and I said that, no, I'm not.

• 29:22Jessie Ware?

  Did you never try it?

• 29:23Speaker 05

  No, I've never tried it cause I.

• 29:25Jessie Ware?

  You don't eat pork?

• 29:25Speaker 05

  I don't eat meat.

• 29:26Jessie Ware?

  You don't eat meat? Do you eat chicken?

• 29:28Speaker 05

  I eat chicken.

• 29:29Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 29:30Speaker 05

  Just not four-legged.

• 29:31Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 29:31Speaker 05

  I haven't eaten four-legged animal since I was fifteen years old.

• 29:34Jessie Ware?

  Right, okay.

• 29:35Speaker 05

  Cause my first managers were Orthodox Muslim. And so they wouldn't eat pork. And I was broke, like homeless broke, and they always made salmon. So I love salmon.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  Let's hope this works.

• 29:50Jessie Ware?

  Um, and so, okay, so you're making that. So you just do a cheese board for the, the end? Americans have cheese boards at the beginning of the meal.

• 29:57Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, we put it out in the middle of the day.

• 29:59Speaker 04

  Darling, help yourself.

• 30:00Jessie Ware?

  Sweat.

• 30:01Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 30:01Jessie Ware?

  It's very interesting, isn't it?

• 30:03Speaker 05

  I'm getting some of this. This looks so good.

• 30:05Jessie Ware?

  Do it.

• 30:06Speaker 05

  Excuse me, microphone.

• 30:07Speaker 04

  Those are salty potatoes.

• 30:09Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  My daughter told me how to make. You don't know, you better eat some.

• 30:12Jessie Ware?

  I know if the, the juice was worth the squeeze. No, no, salty potatoes. She likes salty carbs, so she's sorted.

• 30:20Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm good. I'm happy.

• 30:22Jessie Ware?

  So, we also ask our guests what their last supper would be. So you can, you can, you can, you can think about this whilst we eat.

• 30:29Speaker 05

  Can I just bury my face in a cheese, in a cheesecake?

• 30:32Jessie Ware?

  In a cheesecake?

• 30:33Speaker 05

  In a cheesecake. That's my favorite thing in the whole world.

• 30:36Jessie Ware?

  What kind of cheesecake?

• 30:38Speaker 05

  Doesn't matter. Key lime. I don't know. I'm just saying that.

• 30:41Jessie Ware?

  Isn't that a key lime pie? Or you, you, no, a key lime cheesecake. I've never had one.

• 30:47Speaker 05

  Oh, okay, well.

• 30:49Jessie Ware?

  Where do you get that from?

• 30:50Speaker 05

  At some point, we're gonna return the, the favor and I'm gonna cook for you.

• 30:53Jessie Ware?

  No, Pink, you're gonna be my best friend.

• 30:55Speaker 05

  Great. Which means you're having a key lime cheesecake.

• 30:57Jessie Ware?

  Okay, that's perfect.

• 31:00Jessie Ware?

  Perfect.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  That's the, the sauce of the day is okay.

• 31:02Speaker 05

  Okay, great. It's delicious.

• 31:03Jessie Ware?

  You've had a hard day's promo. How's it been being in? Blighty. Do you like it here in London?

• 31:08Speaker 05

  I do, I love it.

• 31:09Jessie Ware?

  You're gonna be here in the summer, I can't wait. The carnival.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  Willow is so excited to come back to London. Oh my god. She goes, Mom, can we go to Harvey Nixon, go to Go Sushi? The conveyor belt one. Oh, Go, I said Go Sushi. It's Yo Sushi.

• 31:23Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, Yo Sushi.

• 31:24Speaker 05

  Her favorite thing in the whole world.

• 31:25Jessie Ware?

  It's quite good fun, isn't it?

• 31:27Speaker 05

  It's, yeah, I mean, it's not the thing that you should look forward to.

• 31:31Jessie Ware?

  Around, darling, it's so exciting.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  It's exciting. It's gonna be less exciting because she's not six, but Jameson will love it.

• 31:39Jessie Ware?

  Does he eat sushi?

• 31:40Speaker 05

  They eat everything. Oysters, sushi, caviar.

• 31:44Jessie Ware?

  My kids.

• 31:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, but I don't give my kids a choice. We have, I mean, I give them a choice, but we have a rule in our family that you have to try everything once, and then if you never try it again, that's on you.

• 31:57Jessie Ware?

  So, okay, Last Supper.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. I started, I started with cheesecake.

• 32:03Jessie Ware?

  Starter, main, dessert, drink of choice. You went straight in. For the person that says they're a salty carb kind of gal, you went into the cheesecake.

• 32:13Speaker 05

  Now, you gotta know this about me if we're gonna be best friends. It just depends on the minute.

• 32:17Jessie Ware?

  You're hot and cold. You don't know. Wait, okay, fine. So, we're starting with the cheesecake.

• 32:21Speaker 05

  That's our appetizer.

• 32:22Jessie Ware?

  Right, lovely.

• 32:26Jessie Ware?

  What's your favorite cheese?

• 32:27Speaker 05

  Mimolette.

• 32:29Jessie Ware?

  I don't know that.

• 32:30Speaker 05

  It's orange. It's a hard cheese from France. I'm gonna tell you how it's made, but it's one of those things that if you told your kid how it's made, you wouldn't eat it, so please don't let this stop you.

• 32:40Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 32:40Speaker 05

  Because I'm not super into mites either.

• 32:43Jessie Ware?

  Oh, no.

• 32:46Speaker 05

  But it's made with mites.

• 32:49Jessie Ware?

  How?

• 32:50Speaker 05

  I'm not totally sure.

• 32:52Jessie Ware?

  And it's still your favorite?

• 32:53Speaker 05

  I'm not totally sure this story is true either. It's just what I heard. It's delicious. Mmm, that's so hard.

• 33:01Jessie Ware?

  Okay, don't think of it as a morbid thing. It's like you're going off for

• 33:05Speaker 05

  The last thing I get to taste.

• 33:07Jessie Ware?

  No, before going somewhere for a very long time.

• 33:10Speaker 05

  Oh, okay. Okay, then I want non-bread.

• 33:13Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  I want non-bread. I want, uh, like a green coconut curry. With chicken or tofu? And then I want maybe a little sushi on the side.

• 33:25Jessie Ware?

  Yep. Where's your sushi place that you go to in America? Or is it a secret?

• 33:29Speaker 05

  No, I, well, Venice Beach, Hama, Hama Sushi, but it's like a shitty little

• 33:34Jessie Ware?

  But you love it.

• 33:34Speaker 05

  dive. I love it.

• 33:35Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  Do you live near Venice?

• 33:37Speaker 05

  I do, sometimes.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 33:40Jessie Ware?

  And, but what I was gonna say, Pink, was, Alicia, sorry, best friend. Um, um, in your documentary, it was so wonderful because you had, I mean, you, you put on such a show and I can't wait to see you in high part.

• 33:53Speaker 05

  Thanks.

• 33:54Jessie Ware?

  I can't wait.

• 33:55Speaker 05

  I'm so excited.

• 33:56Jessie Ware?

  And

• 33:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, I want to come.

• 33:58Jessie Ware?

  It's not ju-

• 33:58Speaker 05

  Please come.

• 33:59Jessie Ware?

  It's the carnival. Explain to everybody who hasn't seen a Pink show, what they can expect.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  Oh, man, I have, first of all, I have to say, I have the best crew in the world. I have the best dancers and the best band, I think, living. And we're like a group of people that prove that diversity and inclusivity and, and, and different ideals and backgrounds can work really, really well together. And they're just the best of the best. So I always tell people, when you get sick of me, you can look anywhere else and you will see the best of the best. So I'm very, very proud of my team.

• 34:34Jessie Ware?

  And they've been with you forever, right?

• 34:35Speaker 05

  Mostly forever. And also, I grew up singing classic, like classically trained singer, Phantom of the Opera, Les Mis, kind of thing. So it's almost Broadway, theater, Cirque du Soleil, rock and roll, rock show. Because I have all the smoke and mirrors and I have the stunts and the gags and I can fly through the air. But at the end of the day, you have to be able to strip all of the stunts and all the shit away. And it has to be musically and sonically perfect. It has to be beautiful. It has to be about the music. So we have acoustic sections and, I don't know, it's just really fun.

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Do you do acrobatics?

• 35:18Speaker 05

  I do.

• 35:18Jessie Ware?

  Damn right she does.

• 35:20Speaker 05

  I do. You definitely watched the wrong documentary.

• 35:23Speaker 04

  I know that you do that.

• 35:24Jessie Ware?

  The Gossip Week stylist.

• 35:27Speaker 04

  How weird is that?

• 35:28Jessie Ware?

  That's very-

• 35:29Speaker 04

  You, Sam definitely told me it was on Netflix.

• 35:32Jessie Ware?

  Well, my husband's stupid.

• 35:33Speaker 04

  Because he said, you know, I just thought she was so amazing.

• 35:36Speaker 05

  Oh, love is universal.

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• 37:45Jessie Ware?

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• 38:21Speaker 04

  Look how beautiful! Yeah, with a heart on it. Oh!

• 38:26Speaker 05

  You're good, you.

• 38:27Jessie Ware?

  Have you ever seen this TV show called Come Dine With Me?

• 38:30Speaker 04

  Oh, shut up, Jessie! You always spoil everything!

• 38:33Jessie Ware?

  It's a little... Come Dine With Me, but we love it.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  Oh, piss off, Jessie!

• 38:36Jessie Ware?

  I love you!

• 38:37Speaker 04

  You're so envious, darling.

• 38:40Jessie Ware?

  I am slightly envious, but I do get to flex my skills. Right, so what have you...

• 38:44Speaker 04

  How much a spoon?

• 38:45Jessie Ware?

  Would you like some water?

• 38:47Speaker 04

  There's water there, darling.

• 38:49Jessie Ware?

  Thank you. Fizzy or still?

• 38:50Speaker 05

  Do you know that when I pack and I'm by myself... I'll have still, please. When I pack and I'm by myself, I do it... The woman inside of me has an English accent.

• 39:00Jessie Ware?

  Why?

• 39:01Speaker 05

  I have no idea. I don't know why.

• 39:03Jessie Ware?

  Why, do you think women... English women are more like organized or...

• 39:07Speaker 05

  No, I just am English when I'm packing. I don't know why. I don't know where I'm from.

• 39:12Jessie Ware?

  Are you a good packer?

• 39:14Speaker 05

  I'm a great packer.

• 39:15Jessie Ware?

  Are you?

• 39:15Speaker 05

  I'm a Virgo. I'm a pro packer.

• 39:17Jessie Ware?

  Do you use cubes?

• 39:18Speaker 04

  She's Virgo, darling.

• 39:19Jessie Ware?

  Do you use cubes? All my best friends are.

• 39:21Speaker 05

  Cubes get in the way and actually take up more room than they're worth.

• 39:24Jessie Ware?

  Hang on, no! I disagree. Okay, how do you do it then? Hang everything?

• 39:29Speaker 05

  No.

• 39:29Jessie Ware?

  What do you do then?

• 39:30Speaker 05

  Um, you roll your shirts so they don't get wrinkly.

• 39:33Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 39:34Speaker 05

  And then you place them like so.

• 39:36Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 39:37Speaker 05

  And then your pants, cuff here, cuff here, cuff here, cuff here, cuff here. Everything up top, socks, underwears, bras. Oh, I am a pro packer.

• 39:47Jessie Ware?

  How many bags?

• 39:48Speaker 05

  I'm English. Or I might be Cockney Australian. I'm not totally sure.

• 39:54Jessie Ware?

  Is this because you have an affinity with us Brits and Australia?

• 39:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think so.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  Can you taste champagne?

• 40:00Jessie Ware?

  Why is pink slightly more watery than mine?

• 40:03Speaker 05

  This is...

• 40:04Speaker 04

  It's not watery.

• 40:04Speaker 05

  It's delicious. How dare you?

• 40:08Jessie Ware?

  This is delicious.

• 40:10Speaker 05

  You pick on your mom like I pick on on my mom.

• 40:13Jessie Ware?

  Well, she's a gay icon now, so I just need to take her down a peg or two.

• 40:18Jessie Ware?

  This is very delicious.

• 40:21Speaker 05

  I don't even know what that is, and it's amazing.

• 40:22Speaker 04

  It's raspberries.

• 40:23Speaker 05

  It's a raspberry.

• 40:24Speaker 04

  And cream.

• 40:25Speaker 05

  Thank you. I do appreciate it. Thank you.

• 40:29Jessie Ware?

  So you just need to put the order in when you're back. When are you?

• 40:31Speaker 05

  Carrie walks in my room and I'm like, I can't fit it. I can't.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  I'll tell you what, when you're doing.

• 40:37Speaker 05

  Isn't that annoying that Americans do that shit?

• 40:39Speaker 04

  Are you high part you're doing? I will send chicken soup with matzo balls for you.

• 40:43Speaker 05

  Chicken soup with what?

• 40:44Speaker 04

  Matzo balls.

• 40:45Speaker 05

  What's, oh, matzo balls. I thought you said, I thought you said mat spores. I was like, no, thank you.

• 40:53Speaker 05

  I love you, but no, thank you.

• 40:55Jessie Ware?

  You'll be getting some Lenny's chicken soup and matzo balls. When we went on tour together, which was more rock and roll than my tours, because mum's like, in the bar, clippers, everybody.

• 41:08Jessie Ware?

  We, people go on stage and win a bowl of mum's chicken soup because we talk about it so much.

• 41:15Speaker 05

  I wanna be like you when I'm a little older.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  You do?

• 41:19Speaker 05

  I do. I wanna be just like you.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  Well, I think Jessie's very tolerant because I don't.

• 41:24Jessie Ware?

  I am.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  I don't think I'm, I'm not a difficult person, but um.

• 41:29Speaker 05

  Are you needy? What's happening?

• 41:31Speaker 04

  No, I'm not difficult.

• 41:32Jessie Ware?

  You're not needy. You're assertive. You.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  And I like what I like, and I can't be bothered with things I don't like anymore. But go on.

• 41:40Speaker 05

  But you like things.

• 41:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like lots of things.

• 41:42Speaker 05

  So my mom says I like what I like, but I don't know what that is because she doesn't like anything.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Oh, no, we're, we're, we find it.

• 41:50Jessie Ware?

  You won't be doing a podcast anytime soon.

• 41:52Speaker 05

  Nope, not with her. Oh, no.

• 41:54Jessie Ware?

  Have you thought about doing one with Cora? Ca- Cam, how do you say his name?

• 41:59Speaker 05

  Carrie.

• 41:59Jessie Ware?

  Carrie. Carrie, Carrie, it's Carrie.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  Carrie.

• 42:02Jessie Ware?

  Carrie.

• 42:02Speaker 05

  Carrie.

• 42:03Speaker 04

  Where, where did you meet him?

• 42:05Speaker 05

  I met him at the X Games in Philadelphia. Yeah, at a contest.

• 42:09Jessie Ware?

  That's quite sexy. And you proposed him?

• 42:12Speaker 05

  I did propose.

• 42:13Jessie Ware?

  When he was on the track?

• 42:14Speaker 05

  I did ruin his race.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  But were you already a pop, were you a pop singer by then?

• 42:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  So it was pretty big trophy for him to have.

• 42:24Speaker 05

  I had a pink Afro at the time. Yeah, I was, I was killing the game in my head.

• 42:29Speaker 04

  Killing the game.

• 42:31Speaker 04

  What colour was his hair? Just normal?

• 42:34Speaker 05

  Just normal.

• 42:35Speaker 04

  And is he super gorgeous?

• 42:37Jessie Ware?

  He's very gorgeous.

• 42:38Speaker 05

  He's very pretty.

• 42:39Jessie Ware?

  He's got a, in, in the documentary.

• 42:41Speaker 04

  Which I've not seen.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  That no one else has.

• 42:45Jessie Ware?

  He reminds me of Sam, my husband, in this kind of, he's, he seems, or you edited him this way. Um, quite gentle, calm, he's quite quiet.

• 42:54Speaker 05

  He is calm.

• 42:55Jessie Ware?

  He's horizontal. He, he's, he's got a kind of gentleness and calmness. And where, and we're like the fire, maybe. And we, the driving force, maybe.

• 43:06Speaker 04

  Your Sam is a Virgo. He gets on well with Ping.

• 43:10Speaker 05

  Carrie is Cancer. And he's, I, the way I describe it is, he's the rock and I'm the murky water around the rock. So when you wanna swim in the deep, come in here and swim with me. But if you need just that stable rock that doesn't move.

• 43:25Jessie Ware?

  And that's what we need.

• 43:26Speaker 04

  That's exactly how your relationship is, really.

• 43:29Jessie Ware?

  Um, I, have we finished your meal? I don't know whether we even.

• 43:33Speaker 05

  I don't think we got to the main.

• 43:35Jessie Ware?

  We got the cheese.

• 43:35Speaker 05

  Oh, I think we did coconut curry, right?

• 43:37Jessie Ware?

  Coconut curry? A dessert?

• 43:40Speaker 05

  A weird meal.

• 43:40Jessie Ware?

  A lime. Are we having the mites of cheese in there?

• 43:44Speaker 05

  Mm, we're having mimolet cheese.

• 43:45Jessie Ware?

  We have a cheese board.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  Maybe string cheese and some Triscuits.

• 43:49Jessie Ware?

  What are Triscuits?

• 43:50Speaker 05

  Like a really salty yummy cracker.

• 43:53Jessie Ware?

  Like a Ritz cracker?

• 43:54Speaker 05

  No, they're more like woven, almost like a, uh, what do you call those woven chairs? Where they wicker?

• 44:01Jessie Ware?

  Rattam.

• 44:02Speaker 05

  They look like that, but they don't taste like that.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  Triscuits. Are you going with a chutney on that or?

• 44:07Speaker 05

  Hmm, just string cheese.

• 44:09Speaker 04

  They do chutney on that. String cheese is what your children eat.

• 44:12Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I do like a string cheese.

• 44:14Speaker 05

  Can I put cottage cheese on the side?

• 44:16Jessie Ware?

  No, no.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Fat cottage.

• 44:18Jessie Ware?

  So fucking how dare you.

• 44:19Speaker 04

  That is not rock and roll, Ping.

• 44:21Speaker 05

  It is. With some salt and pepper.

• 44:24Jessie Ware?

  You know, you know what? You should have it with marmite. Do you like marmite? Oh, it's going so bloody. Marmite and cottage cheese, that's because when I was always on a diet when I was younger and I'd go to the multi pace, like su- su- summer club. And I was always on a diet, so I had cottage cheese and marmite sandwiches. You did mum, because I was always on a diet.

• 44:44Speaker 04

  But that wasn't because I wanted you to be.

• 44:47Speaker 05

  Always on a diet.

• 44:48Jessie Ware?

  Because I was a fatty bimbats, like.

• 44:49Speaker 04

  She was a big girl.

• 44:50Jessie Ware?

  I love my.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  You were gorgeous.

• 44:52Jessie Ware?

  I was, I was fun and I like my food and it's all worked out.

• 44:57Speaker 05

  That's what I said.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  It's all worked out.

• 44:59Speaker 05

  Somebody phoned me in the grocery store recently and they were like, how's Blake? And I was like, who's Blake? And they're like, you know, Blake, I was like, oh, you think I'm Gwen Stefani?

• 45:09Speaker 04

  Oh, you're joking.

• 45:10Speaker 05

  That's the biggest compliment anyone has ever given me. You think I'm tall, beautiful.

• 45:16Speaker 04

  Did you go along with that?

• 45:17Speaker 05

  And thin.

• 45:20Speaker 04

  You are.

• 45:21Speaker 05

  I was like, Blake's great. Thank you so much for asking, sir.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  And you sing country and western with him.

• 45:26Speaker 05

  Yeah. Wow, you think I'm fashionable. That was a great compliment.

• 45:32Speaker 04

  That's hysterical.

• 45:33Jessie Ware?

  Well, at least you, you get just.

• 45:34Speaker 05

  I was in a London.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  I'm going to say, well, have you had the baby?

• 45:37Speaker 05

  London club somewhere and somebody grabbed my arm in a vice grip in the bathroom. And she goes, tell me who you are. People are saying that you're somebody.

• 45:44Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 45:44Speaker 05

  And I was like, I, we're all somebody. And I was like, can you please take your fingers off my arm? I'm gonna have like a, a mark.

• 45:53Speaker 04

  Oh, my god.

• 45:54Speaker 05

  I'm not letting you go until you tell me who you are.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  Would you ever grow your hair?

• 45:58Speaker 05

  I've tried.

• 45:59Speaker 04

  And?

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Did you ever see the movie Gremlins?

• 46:02Speaker 04

  Stop.

• 46:03Speaker 05

  Do you know the scene where it pops up from behind the movie theater seat with the blonde wig? That's what I look like.

• 46:08Speaker 04

  But your hair is so gorgeous.

• 46:10Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 46:10Jessie Ware?

  Will you ever go pink again?

• 46:12Speaker 05

  Yeah, I do all the time.

• 46:13Jessie Ware?

  So you just like put a wash in.

• 46:15Speaker 04

  So you're silvery.

• 46:16Jessie Ware?

  I like the silver purple, it's nice.

• 46:18Speaker 05

  I did a calm story called The Silver Fairy and so I'm kind of obsessed with silver hair.

• 46:22Jessie Ware?

  You did a what story?

• 46:23Speaker 05

  A calm story.

• 46:24Speaker 04

  Oh, calm.

• 46:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 46:25Jessie Ware?

  Isn't Harry Styles on that?

• 46:28Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 46:28Jessie Ware?

  So you did a calm story.

• 46:29Speaker 05

  Put people to sleep. This voice puts people to sleep.

• 46:32Jessie Ware?

  I can imagine that.

• 46:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can too.

• 46:34Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 46:35Jessie Ware?

  What's the, what's the song that your kids would request you sing to them?

• 46:40Speaker 05

  Um, oh Willow just told me the other day that Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken is her favorite song.

• 46:46Jessie Ware?

  And.

• 46:46Speaker 05

  Which is so awesome, because it's such a feminist anthem.

• 46:50Jessie Ware?

  But will you then be like, okay, let's fucking go and you'll sing it?

• 46:54Speaker 05

  She won't ask me to sing for her.

• 46:56Jessie Ware?

  Oh, right, okay.

• 46:56Speaker 05

  But when we were on tour in Australia, Jamison got hand, foot and mouth disease. That's a fun one. And his fingernails and toenails were falling off and he was covered all over his body and sore. So I get off stage and I'm just hanging over the pack and play. I've got my arm on his back. I haven't been able to feel my arm in hours and I'm singing. And I think he's finally asleep and I take my hand off and he looks up and he goes, walk me home. And it's four AM at this point. I go, oh, we're taking requests?

• 47:27Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 47:28Speaker 05

  Walk me home in the dead of night.

• 47:34Speaker 05

  It's on my mind.

• 47:37Speaker 04

  I want to meet James.

• 47:38Speaker 05

  He is.

• 47:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:39Speaker 05

  Hilarious.

• 47:40Jessie Ware?

  So you're here for like, you're here for four days. Do you have any plans apart from promoting whilst you're here? Have you got any like destinations that you must like go to when you're in London? Apart from having maybe an Indian? Do you like an Indian? Are you putting naan? Are you putting naan bread?

• 47:57Speaker 05

  Oh, I've been cooking nothing but Indian food.

• 47:59Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 48:00Speaker 05

  A month. My kids are so sick of it, but their favorite is the green coconut curry.

• 48:04Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 48:06Speaker 05

  Um, Indian food is my favorite. My best friend who's here just got back from India. Very jealous.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  Can you get all the spices in?

• 48:13Speaker 05

  No.

• 48:14Speaker 04

  You, you should bring some back.

• 48:15Speaker 05

  I should.

• 48:16Speaker 04

  That's a good idea. Actually, I've got some spices here that came with that book you can have.

• 48:21Speaker 05

  I love you, mom. I'm glad we're best friends. When do I meet the kids?

• 48:27Jessie Ware?

  She does this to me, she palms me off with all her shit. That's what she's doing Alicia.

• 48:32Speaker 05

  Chai Masala?

• 48:33Jessie Ware?

  No, these are great.

• 48:35Speaker 05

  Karamasala, I have that, but I don't know if it's any good.

• 48:37Jessie Ware?

  Do you want the chai masala? So you go, that's fine. And actually, these were given by a really nice, with a really nice cookbook. Do you want the cookbook?

• 48:46Speaker 05

  Yes, I do. Yes, please.

• 48:48Jessie Ware?

  He'll be so happy.

• 48:49Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 48:50Jessie Ware?

  Remember his name.

• 48:51Speaker 05

  You should, thank you, person. Tangy chili and mango sprinkle?

• 48:56Speaker 04

  That could be good. Yeah, you'll make use of these.

• 49:00Speaker 05

  My god, I gotta put my glasses on, cause I'm forty-three.

• 49:04Speaker 04

  He sent all the, um...

• 49:06Speaker 05

  Mother tongue.

• 49:07Jessie Ware?

  Gerdie Loyd has now, yeah.

• 49:10Speaker 05

  Has now blessed me with the beautiful.

• 49:13Speaker 04

  It is a beautiful cookbook.

• 49:14Jessie Ware?

  I feel like Gerdie won't mind, he's literally just given.

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Pink, it's signed.

• 49:19Jessie Ware?

  Yes.

• 49:20Speaker 05

  You're giving me this?

• 49:22Speaker 04

  No, he came to us.

• 49:24Jessie Ware?

  I know, he's lovely, he came to us.

• 49:25Speaker 04

  But won't he be happy that I've given it?

• 49:28Jessie Ware?

  It's gone across Atlantic.

• 49:29Speaker 04

  It's a beautiful cookbook.

• 49:31Speaker 05

  God, it's gorgeous, but now, shouldn't I just go get one?

• 49:34Jessie Ware?

  No, we'll get another one. Gerdie will give us another one.

• 49:37Speaker 04

  Gerdie will be really thrilled, and it's a very nice cookbook. And it's all his, look, really beautiful.

• 49:44Jessie Ware?

  Glasses with the pearls.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, Jeff, you need that.

• 49:48Jessie Ware?

  I really...

• 49:49Speaker 05

  Crispy okra and honey masala corn bell parry, okay, thank you. Tika tempura scampi, oh no, I'm about to get fat again.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  No.

• 50:00Jessie Ware?

  Um, what's, what's left to do for you? I mean, you, you tour, you're, you're a queen of touring.

• 50:06Speaker 05

  When I got covid and my son got sick and the world, the, the rug was pulled out from underneath all of us, and then my father passed away, I distilled life down very, very quickly into what actually matters to me, what do I actually need, who am I? Who do I want to be? How do I get there? All these real, serious life questions. And I realized that actually the only thing that I want is to see my kids grow up and be okay. That's it. That's all I want. Everything else is gravy.

• 50:39Speaker 05

  And what do I still have left to do? I love touring. I love it. I enjoy it. We have a great time. I have authentic experiences with people in the audience. We cry together. We let go together. We exercise our demons together. It's freaking magic. I'm lucky to do it. And that's it. That's what I got. I got a really good music family and I got a really good family at home.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  You're satisfied?

• 51:05Speaker 05

  I'm never s- I mean, I mean, yeah, I guess in a lot of ways, yes.

• 51:11Speaker 04

  Do you ever sing karaoke?

• 51:13Speaker 05

  Uh, yes, I do. I'm so annoying. No one wants to sing karaoke with me.

• 51:15Speaker 04

  Why? Cause you're too good.

• 51:17Speaker 05

  Cause I s- I like to sing ballads.

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 51:21Speaker 05

  Don't stop believing. My, my daughter's like, oh god, you're so annoying.

• 51:27Speaker 04

  So it's don't stop believing.

• 51:30Jessie Ware?

  Don't stop believing, journey.

• 51:31Speaker 05

  Or nothing compares to you, or greatest love of all, Whitney Houston. I'm like a total dork, but if I wanna be fun and not clear the room, then I'll do like, if you want it, uh, you got it. Just Bust a Move by Young MC, I think it is. Do you know that song?

• 51:48Jessie Ware?

  I know it.

• 51:48Speaker 05

  Just Bust a Move. If you want, no, no.

• 51:51Jessie Ware?

  I know it, but I don't, I, I, I.

• 51:53Speaker 05

  I like that you're willing to go there with me though.

• 51:55Jessie Ware?

  I'm, I'm, I don't know anything else apart from the chorus.

• 51:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's good. I think it's good.

• 52:01Jessie Ware?

  You must have had, okay, and you must have, y- you've been doing music for what, twenty-three years?

• 52:06Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 52:06Jessie Ware?

  You were there at the, in the golden time of fucking, you know.

• 52:12Speaker 05

  Pop music?

• 52:13Jessie Ware?

  Pop music of, uh, um, you know, you must have had the most ridiculous dinners out. Is there any memorable meal that you've had where you've fa- you've, you, you know, you've been put in a situation where you're like, hang on, why am I at dinner with this person?

• 52:29Speaker 05

  I had a weird run-in with Jamiroquai.

• 52:31Jessie Ware?

  Ooh.

• 52:32Speaker 05

  Who I, I love.

• 52:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, me too. I love the music.

• 52:35Speaker 05

  He sat in the corner and stared at me all night. And then when I started talking to my manager for the eighty-fifth time, he flipped a table and left.

• 52:43Speaker 04

  No, stop.

• 52:44Speaker 05

  But there were no words exchanged. And I didn't, wasn't, I'm still not, still not sure what I, what I did. I also had a person come up to me in a bar, uh, sitting across from my husband and go, who do you think he's having sex with besides yourself? Why are people so strange? What? I was like, um. No, is they all psychopaths? I don't know. They're all psychopaths. I was like, are you being cheated on? Is this something we should talk about? Are you okay? Oh, God. I go, and then by no accident, he didn't know what that person was saying to me, but he saw my face was weird and he, he goes, hey, I go, hey, he goes, you're so fucking hot. And I go.

• 53:27Speaker 05

  Oh, shit, just said you're not. No, her husband said that. My Carrie said that. Your husband said that, not the weird man. No, it was a woman that said that to me. I was like, hmm, that's not cool. To another woman? I have no idea. Jealousy. But I get in weird people, yeah, people are weird. I love it. I love weird. Do you? I just think it's, I mean, yeah, it's kind of messed up. Have you performed at Las Vegas? Yes. At residency? No, not.

• 53:57Jessie Ware?

  Do you think you'd ever do that?

• 53:58Speaker 05

  I would. It'd be quite convenient. I would be the best Cirque show that Las Vegas ever saw. Yeah, you do like the whole thing. Yeah.

• 54:06Jessie Ware?

  So, hang on, okay, this is something that the itch must be scratched.

• 54:10Speaker 05

  Las Vegas would be fun because I have to do things that can travel, but when you don't have to travel, that opens up such a box of fun because you can have water, you can have all these things that you can't have when you travel and it's just there. It's like, oh. So, do you still do trapeze? Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. Yep. Are you scared? No, yes.

• 54:36Jessie Ware?

  Mum, you've got to, you've got to wash the dog.

• 54:39Speaker 05

  The dog, not the one that I've won.

• 54:41Jessie Ware?

  Show in the summer.

• 54:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:43Jessie Ware?

  And you're gonna like, your mind is gonna be blown.

• 54:45Speaker 05

  You'll bring the matzo ball soup. I will. You'll see me fly around.

• 54:49Jessie Ware?

  I.

• 54:49Speaker 05

  Please bring your kids because then my kids will have somebody to play with.

• 54:52Jessie Ware?

  That's, yeah, I honestly, we can show your kids a good time.

• 54:57Speaker 05

  I love how instant kids become friends. Yeah. Literally like.

• 55:03Speaker 05

  And then they just both show that.

• 55:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know. Okay, that was great. She might be friends with Jameson rather than...

• 55:10Jessie Ware?

  No, my daughter will only want to speak to Willow.

• 55:13Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 55:13Jessie Ware?

  Should we like that?

• 55:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 55:15Jessie Ware?

  And Jameson will, well, maybe Jameson will, I, I, I don't know.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  Willow's ears pierced.

• 55:20Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  When, how old was she?

• 55:22Speaker 05

  She was probably seven or eight. Willow wants double, triple. Yeah, we can wait on that eventually, yeah.

• 55:29Jessie Ware?

  I, I, look.

• 55:30Speaker 05

  I'd rather take her to get it done the right way because I pierced my own self, so.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  All of these are pierced, yourself?

• 55:36Speaker 05

  I pierced my own nose with a thumb tack.

• 55:39Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 55:40Speaker 05

  I know.

• 55:40Speaker 04

  You're a poor mother.

• 55:41Speaker 05

  Hmm, yeah, I'll go with that.

• 55:44Jessie Ware?

  Pink, Alicia, friend. It's been an absolute treat.

• 55:49Speaker 05

  Thank you so much for feeding me.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  Such a pleasure.

• 55:51Speaker 05

  I love your relationship and it gives me hope.

• 55:54Jessie Ware?

  Oh, you about what?

• 55:55Speaker 05

  Just the future with my babies.

• 55:57Jessie Ware?

  You are, you are smacking it. You are the parent that I aspire to be. You are, no, you're amazing. Sorry, you are the parent, Lenny, you are the parent.

• 56:07Speaker 05

  Thank you for feeding me.

• 56:08Speaker 04

  Such a pleasure.

• 56:09Jessie Ware?

  And best of luck with trustful.

• 56:11Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 56:11Jessie Ware?

  And can't wait to see you live.

• 56:13Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 56:14Jessie Ware?

  And we've got a tea towel for you.

• 56:16Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  That's a.

• 56:17Speaker 05

  Oh, I love it. Table manners and I came in here and just cursed up a storm and talked about people.

• 56:24Jessie Ware?

  They, they're going for quite a lot of laundry, babe.

• 56:26Speaker 05

  If you ever hear from Jamira Quai, will you please let me know what was the table thing?

• 56:31Jessie Ware?

  I'm gonna find that out for you, babe, don't worry.

• 56:33Speaker 04

  We're gonna find it out.

• 56:34Jessie Ware?

  You fold like a dr- you fold like a dream, darling. That's how she packs so well. Look at you, fitting it into the luggage tonight.

• 56:59Jessie Ware?

  How fabulous, Pink. I loved her. I loved hearing about how she packs. I loved hearing about the psychic. I loved hearing about the chicken and matzo balls.

• 57:07Speaker 04

  Her quiff.

• 57:08Jessie Ware?

  I, I feel like I could pray in the church of Pink.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:12Jessie Ware?

  Synagogue of Pink.

• 57:13Speaker 04

  She's so warm. She hugged me lots.

• 57:15Jessie Ware?

  Loved her.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  Yeah. I felt appreciated.

• 57:18Jessie Ware?

  I would like to see her again.

• 57:19Speaker 04

  Me too.

• 57:20Jessie Ware?

  And Pink, thank you so much for coming on. You're just wonderful. And that's the end of Second Helpings this season, but we'll be back very soon for season eighteen of Table manners.

• 57:31Speaker 04

  Am I that old?

• 57:32Jessie Ware?

  We should have an 18th birthday party. Yeah. Thank you to everyone for coming on our podcast so that we can even do a second helpings and just what an amazing bunch of guests and we have plenty more where that came from for season 18 of Table manners. We'll see you then.

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