Hosted by Pablo Torre
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Pablo Torre hosts a Halloween edition of the podcast featuring guests Michael Cruz Kayne and Katie Nolan, disguised as Alyssa Lu and a bird. The episode centers on the phenomenon of doppelgangers, specifically focusing on Steve Gillis, an English teacher and youth volleyball coach in Las Vegas who bears an uncanny resemblance to Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr. Torre interviews Gillis, who insists he is not trying to copy Kerr despite wearing similar athletic gear and carrying Kerr's jersey to games, and even recounts an incident where tennis star Roger Federer mistook him for Kerr. Culminating in a group chat created by Torre to unite the two Steves, the discussion expands into celebrity look-alikes, lawsuits over doppelgangers like Kim Kardashian's action against Old Navy, AI malfunctions, and airplane etiquette.
Pablo introduces the show, mentions Apple Card and Apollo.io sponsors, and sets the episode’s tone.
Pablo meets Alyssa Lu, humorously discusses Halloween costumes and references The Odyssey, setting a playful atmosphere.
Pablo reveals the episode’s focus on doppelgängers, introducing the idea of a Steve Kerr look‑alike and setting up the main narrative.
Pablo interviews Steve Gillis, an English teacher and volleyball coach who resembles Steve Kerr, exploring the nature of doppelgängers.
Pablo discusses the ethics of adding the two Steves to a group chat, debating consent and potential legal issues.
The hosts reminisce about previous Halloween costumes, including a hamburger outfit, and reflect on past show moments.
The conversation shifts to AI failures, tech scams, and real‑world incidents, highlighting the dangers of emerging technology.
Pablo wraps up the episode, thanks guests, and signs off with final reflections and a teaser for future content.
Katie Nolan shares an encounter with a fan at a door who loves the show because of its goofy, unstructured episodes.
Introducing Steve Gillisinsight
Pablo Torre introduces Steve Gillis, a Las Vegas English teacher and youth volleyball coach who looks identical to Steve Kerr.
The Jersey in the Handdebate
Steve Gillis admits under questioning that he was holding Steve Kerr's number twenty-five jersey and a Sharpie at the game.
The Roger Federer Encounterstory
Steve Gillis explains how Roger Federer grabbed his phone and took a photo with him, fully believing he was Steve Kerr.
Kim Kardashian Old Navy Lawsuitdata
The group discusses Kim Kardashian suing Old Navy and Gap for twenty million dollars over a commercial featuring a brunette look-alike.
Steve Kerr sends his first message in the newly created group chat with his doppelganger, confirming verification.
Four Doppelgangers on Earthinsight
Steve Kerr notes in the group chat that with eight billion people, everyone statistically has four doppelgangers.
“Kim Kardashian filed a $20 million lawsuit against Old Navy and its parent company, The Gap Incorporated, in July 2011 over a commercial titled "Super CUTE."”
“The headline I'm reading is from Axios. Unvetted AI agents are accessing US bank accounts.”
“I think, as you contemplate being Alyssa Lu's doppelganger, I want to give you a little more detail on the other Steve.”
“The whole thing was the closest thing I have ever seen to the real-life Spider‑Man meme, which I did, of course, send them in animated gif form.”
What if Steve Kerr met his viral look-alike? Are we safe from the bizarro world? What if David Letterman re-named this podcast? And is our curse on A. I. actually working? Plus: The Rule of the Airplane, Jim Kardashian, Alonzo "Hamburger" Jones... and Molly the Mechanical Bird. • Subscribe to "But Also" https://pod.link/1896895859 with Michael Cruz Kayne • Subscribe to "Casuals" https://pod.link/1788997372 with Katie Nolan • Previously on PTFO: We Cast Spells with a Real-Life Witch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkq3vFmk7mY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
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