Dr Joe Dispenza on Rewiring Your Brain to Heal Itself

The Summit of Greatness is back! Buy your tickets today – summitofgreatness.com – Dr Joe’s passion can be found at the intersection of the latest findings from the fields of neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science behind spontaneous remissions. He integrates that knowledge to teach people how to heal their bodies of health conditions, make significant changes in their lives, and evolve their consciousness. Since 2010, he has partnered with scientists and universities to perform extensive research on the effects that meditation has on the brain and body. During his advanced retreats around the world, his team has gathered more than 18,000 brain scans (quantitative QEEG) and 10,000 heart-rate variability measurements (HRV) to correlate the effects that sustained elevated emotions and self-regulation have on heart and brain function, immune response, and overall mind-body health. He and his team have also studied gene expression, protein regulation, immune response, neurotransmitter changes, telomere length, and variations in bioactive cellular metabolic particles in both novice and advanced meditators. As a New York Times best-selling author, researcher, lecturer, and corporate consultant, Dr Joe’s research has led him to develop a practical formula to help people transform their lives. Dr Dispenza's latest findings have the potential to transform your understanding of meditation's impact on immunity. Dive into the science behind it and unlock the secrets to enhancing your well-being. Explore Dr Joe Dispenza's research milestone on meditation's profound influence on immunity in his latest blog post: Read Here. For an even deeper dive into the scientific details, explore the research paper directly: Access the Research Paper. In this episode you will learn,Why so many people struggle to heal themselves, and how important the mind and body connection is to long term peace and abundance. How to define balance and wholeness for yourself, and tips to live more in alignment. Three types of stress and the impact they have on our nervous system. The power of visualization when searching for meaning and peace in your life. The root cause for so many of our chronic health issues, and the necessary steps you should take to address them. For more information go to www.lewishowes.com/1494For more Greatness text PODCAST to +1 (614) 350-3960Want more from Dr Joe Dispenza? Control Your Mind – https://link.chtbl.com/1413-podBreak Free From Addiction – https://link.chtbl.com/1309-podAttract Financial Abundance – https://link.chtbl.com/1288-podBecome Limitless – https://link.chtbl.com/1256-pod Get more from Lewis! Get my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy! Get The Greatness Mindset audiobook on SpotifyText Lewis AIYouTubeInstagramWebsiteTiktokFacebookX

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• 0:01Lewis Howes?

  My friend, I am such a big believer that your mindset is everything. It can really dictate if your life has meaning, has value, and you feel fulfilled, or if you feel exhausted, drained, and like you're never going to be enough. Our brand new book, The Greatness Mindset, just hit the New York Times Bestseller back-to-back weeks. And I'm so excited to hear from so many of you who've bought the book, who've read it, and finished it already, and are getting incredible results from the lessons in the book. If you haven't got a copy yet, you'll learn how to build a plan for greatness through powerful exercises and toolkits designed to propel your life forward. This is the book I wish I had when I was 20, struggling, trying to figure out life. 10 years ago, at 30, trying to figure out transitions in my life, and a book I'm glad

• 0:46Lewis Howes?

  I have today for myself. Make sure to get a copy at lewishouse.com/2023mindset to get your copy today. Again, lewishouse.com/2023mindset to get a copy today. Also, the book is on Audible now, so you can get it on audiobook as well. And don't forget to follow the show so you never miss an episode.

• 1:10Joe Dispenza?

  If our thoughts could make us sick, is it possible that my thoughts could make me well? Well, if that's the case, then, then I'm gonna have to manage my attention, and I'm gonna have to manage my energy, because where I place my attention is where I place my energy. And I'm gonna have to inhibit that thought that has conditioned the body to subconsciously be the mind.

• 1:31Lewis Howes?

  Welcome to the School of Greatness. My name is Lewis Howes, former pro athlete turned lifestyle entrepreneur. And each week, we bring you an inspiring person or message to help you discover how to unlock your inner greatness. Thanks for spending some time with me today. Now let the class begin.

• 1:54Lewis Howes?

  Welcome back everyone at School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Dr. Joe Dispenza in the house. So good to see you again. Happy to see you, Lewis, as always. Very excited. I want to start with one of your quotes because I think this is going to be very profound for a lot of people who have watched your content before, but also people have never heard about you, which I feel like would be hard to see people have never heard about you, at least on my channel. This is a quote of yours. "Just as thoughts are the language of the brain, feelings are the language of the body. And how you think and how you feel create a state of being. A state of being is when your mind and body are working together. So your present state of being is your genuine mind-body connection."

• 2:40Lewis Howes?

  I love this quote and I see you talking about this a lot. I hear it in your meditations. This is in one of your books as well. And the thing that I want people to focus on today, a lot of people are feeling sick. They're feeling stressed. They're feeling overwhelmed. And their bodies and their minds are literally getting sicker and sicker. Specifically here in America, obesity is increasing and it just feels like more and more people are on medications and are needing things to try to help them feel better in the moment. But I don't believe it's helping them get to the root of their pain and their sickness. And I don't think it's going to help them extend their lifespan and also be healthier later in life. Yeah.

• 3:24Lewis Howes?

  I went to your event last year and was blown away in what I witnessed in seven days of doing intensive conscious meditations that you were leading and witnessing the healings that were happening within seven days of people who were...

• 3:43Lewis Howes?

  Unable to stand up straight and feeling pain throughout their entire body. People who were in wheelchairs, who were able to have the strength to get out of them. People who were struggling seeing clearly and were blurry eyes that could now see clearer. And so many other incredible, what people might think miracles, happening after seven days of following your practice and the practice that you've been applying to yourself for a long time. And so I wanted to start with this context because I feel like people are sick and they want to heal. But why do you think so many people struggle to feeling whole and healing?

• 4:23Lewis Howes?

  When there, there seems to be the answer to how to do it, but people continue to struggle with their health. Why do you think that is?

• 4:32Joe Dispenza?

  Hmm, um, well, there's a lot of things to unpack there. We have three types of stress that we, we process in the physical body. We have physical stress, that's like trauma, accidents, injuries, falls. And then you have chemical stress, like toxins or pesticides or pollutants or viruses or bacteria or hangovers or nutritional deficiencies. And, and then you have emotional stress, right? And emotional stress can be family tragedies, car accidents, second mortgages, single parenting, 401ks, you know, whatever that is. Uh, but each one of those things, physical, chemical or emotional, uh, knock the body

• 5:16Joe Dispenza?

  out of homeostasis, out of regulation, out of balance. The innate capacity of the body when it's not overstressed is that it wants to always return back and regulate, wants to return back to homeostasis, it wants to return back to order. And that's kind of innate in us, that's an automatic process that's running through the autonomic nervous system. So we could say the job of the autonomic nervous system is to create balance and regulation and homeostasis and it's automatic, right? And that part of the brain sits under the thinking neocortex and is called the chemical brain or the emotional brain, the limbic brain or the mammalian brain. And it has all of those functions that make blood sugar balanced, hormone levels, digestive

• 6:01Joe Dispenza?

  enzymes, it's doing what it can to take the body and constantly repair it and regenerate it, move it back into balance. All of those stressors knock the brain and body out of balance and the innate mechanism, the stress response, brings it back to balance. Well, it just makes sense. If you keep knocking it out of balance over and over again, and you keep moving it out of homeostasis, that imbalance is going to become the new balance, and now you're headed for a disease because that autonomic, automatic system can't regulate order in the body. So a system then is compromised, the system breaks down. And so if it's physical trauma, you know, your body can heal if you rest it.

• 6:44Joe Dispenza?

  If it's chemical imbalance, you take your pharmaceuticals, or you take your nutraceuticals, your vitamins, your minerals, your herbs, you intermittent fast, you eat a vegan diet, you do anything you can to get the body back so that it's using more energy for growth and repair. So for some people, digestion consumes more energy than the process makes, right? Really? So they're in a state of constant diminishing returns, right? So when the autonomic nervous system's out of balance and the digestive system is perceiving that there's a threat and danger all the time in the outer world, the person's living in fear, it's not a time to digest, right? So that system is compromised, right?

• 7:29Joe Dispenza?

  So then they become very sensitized to the foods they consume because the response constantly from the environment is weakening the organism, right? So they're victim to the environment, so they're more susceptible to have food allergies or whatever it is. So then the person then goes to a diet where they consume less foods that require more energy to break down. So it's like taking a camel in a desert that's fallen and lifting all the packs off it, getting it back up, and then slowly adding the packs back on, right? So people do things to get the body back into chemical balance, and sometimes we're refining or changing their diet in some way, and there's thousands of options for that, and you gotta feel good about it, and you gotta believe in it.

• 8:13Joe Dispenza?

  But the big factor is emotional stress.

• 8:17Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 8:18Joe Dispenza?

  Really, for the most part, seventy-five to ninety percent of every person that walks into a healthcare facility in the Western world, walks in because of psychological or emotional stress.

• 8:29Lewis Howes?

  Really?

• 8:29Joe Dispenza?

  That's pretty much four out of five people. What's really causing their health condition is that they're emotionally stressed and emotionally out of balance. Okay, so what are the emotions that are connected to the stress hormones? It's anger, it's hatred, it's violence, it's frustration, it's competition, it's control, it's judgment, it's envy, it's jealousy, it's insecurity, it's fear, it's anxiety, it's worry, it's angst, it's hopelessness, it's powerlessness, it's guilt, it's shame, it's unworthiness, you know? And psychology calls these normal human states of consciousness. These are altered states of consciousness. So our response to someone or something in our environment, or our response to our

• 9:14Joe Dispenza?

  own thought, an image of what could happen in the future, a memory of the past, could actually cause chemicals to be secreted from the brain.

• 9:24Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy.

• 9:24Joe Dispenza?

  That causes the body to actually believe it's living in that same environment of fear or danger, right? So.

• 9:32Lewis Howes?

  So what am I hearing you say there? Just so I'm correct. We can think of thought of our past memory, whether it's true or not what happened.

• 9:41Joe Dispenza?

  A memory, exactly.

• 9:42Lewis Howes?

  A memory of something that we think happened. It may have happened, it may have been something that we continue to make up that happened, right? A memory.

• 9:51Joe Dispenza?

  Fifty percent of that is a lie, so yeah, more than likely.

• 9:54Lewis Howes?

  Fifty percent of our memories are lies.

• 9:55Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, they're not the truth.

• 9:56Lewis Howes?

  Right, right. Or they're expanded into something else, right?

• 9:59Joe Dispenza?

  They're embellished.

• 10:00Lewis Howes?

  They're embellished. So we can think of a memory, a painful memory, and we can hold on to that thought, or we can think about something we're worried about in the future that hasn't happened, may never happen.

• 10:08Joe Dispenza?

  We can pick some worst-case scenario and obsess about it.

• 10:11Lewis Howes?

  And we can obsess about it, and just the thought alone could create an emotion that could make us sick? Is that what I'm hearing?

• 10:17Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, because. That thought, when you're seeing that thought in your mind or remembering that image, it's the image and the emotion, it's the thought and the feeling, it's the stimulus and response that's immediately conditioning the body into that state of imbalance. So it's a scientific fact that the long-term effects of the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons and create disease. If you can turn on that stress response just by thought alone, your thoughts are literally gonna make you sick, okay? Crazy. So that's the greatest example of the mind-body connection. So the next fundamental question is, okay, if our thoughts could make us sick, is it possible that my thoughts could make me well? Well, if that's the case then, then I'm gonna have to manage my attention

• 11:01Joe Dispenza?

  and I'm gonna have to manage my energy, because where I place my attention is where I place my energy. And I'm gonna have to inhibit that thought that has conditioned the body to subconsciously be the mind of that emotion. And the body's so objective that it does not know the difference between the real-life experience that's creating that emotion and the emotion that person is fabricating by thought alone. To the body, it's exactly the same. So the body's believing it's being chased by a predator. The body's believing it's in an offensive situation where it has to attack. The body's believing it's constantly needing to be ready and it's constantly out of homeostasis, it's constantly out of balance. It's in emergency, it's in fight or flight, it's a different system

• 11:45Joe Dispenza?

  in the autonomic nervous system where you're stepping on the gas, where you're mobilizing enormous amounts of energy for some threat, some danger, real or imagined. But that thought and the feeling, the image, the emotion, the stimulus response is conditioning the body to automatically be the mind of that emotion. So then, now the body becomes conditioned and addicted. Now, this gets to be a problem because people get addicted to their own thoughts. It becomes their personality, right? It is their identity. And they become addicted to the life they don't even like, because their response to the coworker, to the boss, to the ex is actually giving them a rush of energy, a rush of adrenaline, and they're associating that rush of energy with some problem or condition in their life. And now come time to change. And manage your attention and manage your emotion.

• 12:31Joe Dispenza?

  It's no different than breaking addiction to anything. There's cravings. The body, the body wants to return back to how it's been conditioned into the familiar past, into the known.

• 12:43Lewis Howes?

  Even if it's uncomfortable, painful and a horrific feeling, we, why do we go back into that feeling?

• 12:49Joe Dispenza?

  Because we don't believe there's anything in the future. If we knew that the best way to create a future really is to change your state of being. Then, then you would have to manage your attention on that thought and have to say, is this thought actually the truth? And how long am I going to keep thinking this thought? And firing and wiring that circuit in the brain. So there's biology because now it's an automatic program. It's a belief. A belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again until it becomes subconscious or unconscious. So to change then is become so conscious of that unconscious thought, that unconscious belief that it wouldn't slip by your awareness. A notice and checked and now the body's in rehab. Because it's overdosed and it's been on a bad trip.

• 13:32Joe Dispenza?

  And the body, which has been conditioned to be the mind is 95% of who we are, right? By the time we're in the middle of our life. So there's David and Goliath. And the body's just saying, look, you think you've been making all your decisions your whole life. Actually, you haven't. The body has been making these decisions because it's the mind. So then the body says, okay. Lewis, this is really good that you want to be kind and compassionate.

• 13:56Lewis Howes?

  That's not how you've been for 30, 40 years.

• 13:58Joe Dispenza?

  The body says, let me just send some thoughts or some memories of the past. That are going to just cause you to feel that emotion. So the, the body starts saying to the mind, you can't, it's too hard, you'll never change. This is too uncomfortable. I don't like this. Go back to make the same choice, do the same thing, create the same experience, feel the same emotion. So you can return back to the known and that's how people seamlessly return back to that same identity. So. Back to the concept of health.

• 14:28Joe Dispenza?

  Physical balance, okay, let's talk about that. What do you want to do? Intermittent

• 14:36Joe Dispenza?

  interval training, you want to do yoga, you want to do Pilates, you want to do sprinting, you want to do running, you want to do weights, whatever it is. Get your body more physically balanced and physical balance has to do with strength, flexibility and endurance. And get those three in balance, right? So you want to do acupuncture, chiropractic, massage, whatever it is that you want to treat your body to, to honor it in that way. Get it back into physical balance and

• 15:10Joe Dispenza?

  there's no doubt in any, in any one of these areas, you're going to have to stretch yourself outside of what you think you can do. Cause that's the only way you're going to change.

• 15:18Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:19Joe Dispenza?

  So just when you think you've had enough, then go a little bit more. Stretch yourself out that way without hurting yourself, but do it with intention. Do it with assigning meaning to why you're doing that activity. Get the greatest value out of it, works better when you do.

• 15:33Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:33Joe Dispenza?

  Don't resist and get into it. Face off with whatever it is, the pain, the limitation, whatever, and just mark your progress and have it be something that you mindfully want to improve on. Do that and your body will get stronger, get more flexible and have more endurance. Okay, so

• 15:51Joe Dispenza?

  take care of your body chemically, you know, get a blood test.

• 15:54Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 15:54Joe Dispenza?

  I don't know, do, do whatever you need to do to get it chemically back in the balance. If you're, if you're having these symptoms, then you're going to have to maybe start eliminating certain things and making different choices. Does that mean that stuff is bad? No, it means you're out of balance and it's bad for you. And don't make it a thing like you have to do it forever. Just understand why you're doing it. So take your nutrients and your vitamins and your minerals and understand why you're taking those things and do that with the intention.

• 16:21Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 16:22Joe Dispenza?

  Put a meaning behind it, you'll get a greater outcome.

• 16:24Lewis Howes?

  But it sounds like if you take care of the physical and you take care of the chemical. You still might feel or be sick if you don't take care of the emotional.

• 16:34Joe Dispenza?

  That's exactly where I'm going. So get those two in order.

• 16:36Lewis Howes?

  But you can do all the right things and still feel stressed and still feel sick.

• 16:40Joe Dispenza?

  No, listen.

• 16:40Lewis Howes?

  Still feel like my brain and my body is not working and I feel exhausted and I feel drained, right?

• 16:46Joe Dispenza?

  Right, because your response to the environment and response to your own thoughts is weakening the organism. You're squandering energy. Okay, so do all the physical things. Do all the chemical things, but be controlling, rigid, judgmental, self-judgmental. You know, get really over focused on your food and get really over focused on everything. But you're controlling everything in your life and you're living in fear. None of this is going to make much of a difference until you get your body back into homeostasis and balance emotionally. Right? So, so why? Because the moment you return back to this same emotion, your body's so objective, it's believing it's living in the same past experience. And you will behave as if you're in the past and you will think as if you're in the past.

• 17:31Joe Dispenza?

  And you're literally living your life from the past. And that's the way it is. And so it takes crisis, it takes trauma, it takes disease, diagnosis, loss, betrayal. So for people to finally go, I've had enough, right? Why wait? You know? So you do the organic diet, you do the intermittent fasting, you do the vegan, you do the gluten free, you do the keto. You do your exercise.

• 17:55Lewis Howes?

  Supplements, everything.

• 17:55Joe Dispenza?

  You're just controlling and rigid. You are going to take the signal to your cell, which is fear, and make organic fear proteins. That's what you're gonna make. And I have no, listen, I take care of my body, I exercise, I eat well, I make great choices. But I know that if this component, and we have case histories of people that have healed themselves of ALS, of lupus, of cancer,

• 18:25Joe Dispenza?

  that complete reverse, Parkinson's, complete reversal of their health condition. One person in one hour got bad news. In one hour, all of her symptoms came back. She's went right back to the same emotion signal, the same gene. If the environment signals the gene according to epigenetics, and the end product of an experience in the environment is an emotion. Then it makes sense then, as long as you feel that emotion, you're signaling the same gene and your body's believing it's living in the same environment. Seamlessly, you'll return back to the same health condition because you'll up-regulate the genes and down-regulate genes and you'll move your body back out of balance. And as I said seamlessly, the condition in one hour came back, she couldn't get out of her car.

• 19:09Joe Dispenza?

  She said, "If I did it once, I could do it again." She just reversed the process and the second time she was able to do it again. She learned that nobody or nothing is worth it, justified or not. The only person we're hurting is ourselves, okay? So self-regulation, getting your autonomic nervous system back into balance and homeostasis is going to require then breaking the addiction to those emotions. And those emotions that are driving certain behaviors and thoughts that cause a person in an instant to say, "I want to be healthy, I want to live for a long period of time." And then they go back to making the same choice because they return to the same emotion.

• 19:55Joe Dispenza?

  And now they're back in the past. And

• 19:57Lewis Howes?

  It's like you're fighting against what you really want, what you say you want

• 20:00Joe Dispenza?

  Right.

• 20:01Lewis Howes?

  by living in this past emotion.

• 20:02Joe Dispenza?

  Because you got 95% programmed, working against 5% of your conscious mind that's saying, "Okay, have the intention." And you could say, "I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm immortal, whatever."

• 20:12Lewis Howes?

  Abundant, yeah.

• 20:13Joe Dispenza?

  And your body's saying, "Dude, you're miserable." Dude, that thought never makes it past the brainstem to the body because that's not consistent with the emotion of the body because we only accept, believe and surrender to the thoughts equal to our emotional state. We never accept and believe or surrender to any thoughts that are not equal to our emotional state.

• 20:33Lewis Howes?

  Can you say that one more time so people can fully understand that?

• 20:36Joe Dispenza?

  We only accept, believe and surrender to the thoughts that are equal to our emotional state. We'll never accept, believe and surrender any thoughts that are not equal to your emotional state. So you could say, "I'm abundant, I'm eternal, I'll live forever, I'm healthy, I'm wealthy." And if you're programmed, your body into that emotional state, it's going to say, "You're not that, you're miserable."

• 20:59Lewis Howes?

  It doesn't believe it.

• 21:00Joe Dispenza?

  It only accepts the thoughts of suffering and misery because it's equal to that emotional state. So then here's the fundamental question. Okay, take a person who's Identity is resentment. Yes. And their identity is anger and frustration and betrayal. Uh huh. And you ask them, why are you this way? And they'll say, I'm this way because of this event that happened to me 15 years ago. Stronger the emotion we feel from some event, the more altered we feel inside of us, the more that chemical continuity is disrupted from something that surprises us, that alters our state, the more the brain freezes a frame and takes a snapshot. That's called a memory, right? But the problem is that we think about that event over and over again after it happens.

• 21:42Joe Dispenza?

  We're producing the same chemistry in the brain and body as if the event was occurring. And so the body is conditioned, literally, into the past. So. So we're living in the past. So a person says, so you say the person's resentful about everything. They're seeing their lives through the lens of resentment and frustration and anger. And everything's upsetting them. Well, that's a self fulfilling prophecy. You say, okay, now it's an addiction. You gotta change that. And the person goes, oh, okay, that makes sense. And now you gotta get out of the bleachers on the playing field and say, okay, these emotions could literally have something to do with my health. Just saying, if I stop feeling these emotions, what if I start feeling these emotions? Okay. What would be the emotions that would make me happy?

• 22:27Joe Dispenza?

  These emotions are making me feel really bad. The memories are making me feel really bad. Can I remember a future? How would I feel if my future could happen? I gotta trade those emotions for different emotions. Well, if I've been practicing feeling these emotions and that conditioned my body and my mind, it's gonna take some time for me to start making different chemistry with the intention of making that chemistry, getting my body back into homeostasis and balance, work on my breath. When I breathe, I change my state, practice breathing, work with your body so it can start to relax, so that it feels safe enough to feel something other than that again. And if it takes you three weeks, it would be worth it. Oh, absolutely.

• 23:10Joe Dispenza?

  So then, person then starts, okay, I don't really know how to feel gratitude. Okay, well, maybe start calling out and giving, and give to people. I promise you, start giving, start feeling grateful. And then start practicing feeling gratitude. Teach your body. Just for 15 minutes a day, what it would like to feel gratitude, what it would be like. And our data shows that you take someone to do that for four days, three times a day. They make a immunoglobulin called immunoglobulin A. It's your body's natural flu shot. It's the greatest immune chemical we have. 50% increase in the subjects we studied in four days. Immunoglobulin A, up 50% in four days.

• 23:54Joe Dispenza?

  Where is that chemistry coming from? They're not taking anything, it's coming from within them, right?

• 24:00Lewis Howes?

  No supplements, no injections, no topicals.

• 24:02Joe Dispenza?

  No, no, just their bodies, their autonomic nervous system is manufacturing a pharmacy of chemicals that's causing an immunity to the body.

• 24:13Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 24:13Joe Dispenza?

  Right, so now, a person practices feeling gratitude, okay? What is the emotional signature of gratitude? When you receive something, or you just received something, when something wonderful happened to you, or something wonderful is happening to you, you feel grateful.

• 24:26Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 24:26Joe Dispenza?

  So the emotional signature of gratitude is something just wonderful happened, or something is happening to me. But you're in a state of receivership. You've just received something, right? So the emotional signature of gratitude is received, right? So now, if you're in a state of gratitude, it makes total sense then, you will accept, believe, and surrender the thoughts that are equal to that emotional state, and you could actually program your autonomic nervous system to make the pharmacy of chemicals that causes growth and repair to happen in the body.

• 24:56Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 24:56Joe Dispenza?

  And that's exactly what we're discovering. So then, when people understand what they're doing, and they understand why they're doing it, the how gets easier. So you can assign meaning to the task and switch on the prefrontal cortex, and when you switch on that prefrontal cortex, it wants to get an outcome. It doesn't want to mess around, it wants the outcome. You're doing it for the outcome. And that's kind of a strong intention, and a change in energy or an emotional state, and that's changing your state of being. And when you change your state of being like that every day, get ready, because you're going to start having synchronicities and opportunities and coincidences and weird things start happening in your life to prove to you that you're actually the creator of your life instead of the victim of your life.

• 25:38Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely. Gosh, there's so much I want to unpack here. One of them is... You mentioned something around seventy-five to ninety percent of people go into the doctor's office and it's based on an emotional imbalance that probably causes or influences them to be there, right? They might feel physical pain, but it's based on an emotional state that they've been in for a long time.

• 25:59Joe Dispenza?

  And a host of bad choices.

• 26:01Lewis Howes?

  A lot of things, yeah, yeah. But a lot of it is emotional as a baseline.

• 26:06Joe Dispenza?

  That's exactly correct.

• 26:07Lewis Howes?

  You talked about frequency, we talked about emotional signatures, and we talked about identity and personality. When I went to your advanced seven-day experience, when I went there, you had an entire, I don't know, probably a few-hour explanation about frequencies and energies. The highest level frequency where we could be at to allow us to feel more abundant and peaceful and have balance and harmony to lower-level frequencies that are going to cause us to feel more stress and anger and, you know, feel like we're in constant breakdown, right? And the higher the frequency we get to, the more conscious we are, the lower the frequency, the more unconscious we are. Essentially, I'm paraphrasing, you

• 26:50Lewis Howes?

  know, hours of research and science that you teach during this. What is the lowest level of emotion that will keep us stuck in a non-receivership, a non-abundant mentality and state, and a place of pain versus the highest level of emotion that we could be in more frequently that'll allow us to feel more peace and in harmony in our health, but also in our life? What are those two opposite emotions?

• 27:20Joe Dispenza?

  Okay, I just want to finish the last thought about physical, chemical, and emotional stress. I don't want to answer that. So if you're truly interested then in sustaining homeostasis and balance, then you're going to have to self-regulate.

• 27:41Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 27:42Joe Dispenza?

  And it would be wonderful, and we're working, we have this new program called the Inner Health Coalition, because we've had so many doctors, so many researchers, so many healthcare providers come through our events. Many of them heal themselves from all kinds of health conditions, from spinal cord injuries to stage-four cancers. That really just want to really look to see how this model could actually fit in their clinic and there's gotta be a different conversation that can happen around health because chronic health conditions are created from a lifestyle. And if you don't change your lifestyle, nothing is going to change because nothing changes in our life until we change. So then,

• 28:27Joe Dispenza?

  if then you would go to a practitioner where you could actually practice brain and heart coherence, which is our formula. Get your brain feeling those elevated emotions. Uh, I'm sorry, get your heart feeling those elevated emotions. And then get your brain coherent and do the, do the exercises to get your brain and body back into regulation, into homeostasis. And then the key element is not that you react. I mean, who doesn't react? The question is- You're a perfect doctor, Joe. You never react, right? The question is how long? Right. How long are you gonna do that for? I mean, if you keep it going on, then there must be an addiction because an addiction is something you think you can't stop.

• 29:11Joe Dispenza?

  Or knowing something isn't good for you and you do it anyway. That's when you know you're addicted, right? So, so then, get the patient to really work on the emotional states that are keeping them and their body in the past. It's so hard for people, I feel like, right? Yeah, because, because, because up until recently, there haven't been a whole lot of scientifically proven formulas or ways to teach people how to do that. People by nature wanna get over their emotional state. They've just been hypnotized. They've been programmed, they've been conditioned into using something outside of them to take away this feeling inside of them. To numb the pain. Yeah, it's nothing wrong with this. Distract, numb.

• 29:56Joe Dispenza?

  But, but you could, you could, you know, you could go watch a movie or you could do this, you can do that. Do all these different things, go out to dinner, just, just to make the feeling away. But the problem is the feeling always comes back. Right. And so now when the person reaches that point where they're saying, nothing's making this feeling go away, this is game time. This is where the person's not responding to texts any longer.

• 30:19Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 30:20Joe Dispenza?

  They don't want to go to dinner with the same people. They don't want to do the same things. They don't watch the same TV shows. They don't want to get on the computer any longer. This is, this feeling is disturbing. Nothing's making it, no drug, no shopping spree, no, no sports car. Nothing's making this feeling go away. This is a, this is a key moment, right? Because now the person's going to start to realize that no one or nothing in their life is going to make this feeling go away but them.

• 30:44Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 30:44Joe Dispenza?

  And this is the key moment. This is where the person really decides to change. This is the, because they can see themselves for the first time because they no longer feel like themselves. They're no longer distracted by that. They can see how they think. They can notice how they've been acting and decide, oh my God, I don't want to do that anymore. The choices they've made or the experiences they just want to no longer do. And the feelings that they no longer want to feel, right? And they start breaking their emotional agreements with everybody and everything in their life. And people really get worried because they're no longer predictable. They're not showing up as the memory of themselves, right? So what do you do? You medicate them, the person's depressed, you know, their midlife crisis. But really, it's the soul saying, um, there's a future.

• 31:29Joe Dispenza?

  And you may not know what it is. You can't go back to that.

• 31:33Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 31:34Joe Dispenza?

  You just can't go back any longer. You can't, you already know, you can predict everything that's going to happen. You gotta start, you gotta start saying no, or you gotta start looking deep, or you gotta start changing. And this is where, um, it's so important for people then to understand that this is not a bad thing. This is actually a good thing. It just doesn't feel good any longer because you're, you're ready to change, right? So this is what we should be naturally doing. So when the person says, oh my God, I want to feel something else in my life than this. Okay, I'm going to watch how I respond to my coworker. I'm going to re-watch how I respond to my own thoughts. When did I default today and return back to the old self?

• 32:19Joe Dispenza?

  Uh, uh, and they get really serious about looking closely at how they can change the way they think, act, and feel. And we have so many testimonials of people. That were diagnosed with chronic health conditions and they got themselves in their meditations back into elevated emotional states and changed their energy and changed their frequency. We'll get to that. But then they get up from their meditation and they spend the next 15 hours in fear and frustration. Why is that though? Because they went unconscious, they defaulted. So you've got to get so good at doing it with your eyes closed, you've got to start doing it with your eyes open. Oh, man. And that's the big game. The game, that is the game. That is the game. That is the game, right? Because this is the plane of demonstration.

• 33:03Joe Dispenza?

  You've got to demonstrate. So you've got to, you've got to start, that's why the walking meditations are so important in our work, because you've got to walk as it. If you're going to be relaxed in your heart and awaken your brain, you better do it with your eyes open. So let's practice with our eyes. Let's go. No other way to do it. You want to get so good at it that you can do it in the most adverse situations. That's you know and you own it, right? So, so then the person then realized that she had to watch her response to her ex. She had to watch her response to her bank account. She had to watch her response to the news. All of those things. She didn't, no drug, no surgery, no chemo, no radiation, no diet, no supplements were taking her health condition away. Until she realized I had to change, right? So now she

• 33:45Joe Dispenza?

  noticed doing her meditations, her pain levels went down. She noticed she was sleeping better. She knew she had more energy, but her values for that health condition were still the same. And she said, it's not that this doesn't work. They weren't, she wasn't doing her meditations any longer to heal. She was doing her meditations to change. Hmm. And so then she'd say, okay, what do I want to believe today? What thought do I want to fire and wire in my brain? Remember it. I've got to keep remembering. So I don't forget to think this way. And a belief is just a thought you keep thinking over and over again. So she wanted to hardwire that in her brain. She wanted that to be a new voice in her head. Because thoughts that wire together. Fire together and wire together, right? So then, how am I going to behave? Closing your eyes and rehearsing how you're going to be with your ex. And literally thinking there's got to be another way to be. I can't respond the way I have responded. It's only

• 34:30Joe Dispenza?

  weakening me. I've got to change my state. Okay, I'm going to be loving. Let me rehearse it. Mental rehearsal. When you keep doing it, rehearsing yourself in a scene, planning your behaviors, your brain will look like you already did it. And if you keep doing it, it's gonna become more automatic. It's gonna become like a software program. So the brain looks like the experience has already happened. And now you have hardware and software in place to use when you're with your ex. Because you installed it, right? So now you're doing the meditation to remind yourself where you no longer wanna be and remind yourself where you do wanna be. So now, okay, the person's now behaves that way. And now her response to her ex is different. Evolution that day. And the body's no longer brought back to the past.

• 35:15Joe Dispenza?

  And she does it once, and she wants to do it again. She wants to get better at it. And she starts healing. And she says, "I gotta stay in this emotional state. I don't care who it is or what it is. Let me close my eyes. I'm gonna feel this emotion 100 times if I have to. Just so that I can feel it so many times that I can bring it up whenever I want." Now, they're becoming familiar with a new state of being, right? And when you feel the emotion of your future before it happens, you'll always believe in that future. Wow. And if you feel the emotion that keeps you connecting your past, you'll believe in your past. And that's just the way it is. And then you return back to the same self, your same biology, thinking the same thoughts, making the same choices, doing the same things, creating the same experiences, feeling the same emotions. And your biology, your neurocircuitry, your neurochemistry, your hormones,

• 35:59Joe Dispenza?

  your gene expression all stays the same because you just returned back to the same. Okay, so we said, seven days.

• 36:08Joe Dispenza?

  Taking a group of people is what I said to the scientists at University of California, San Diego. Seven days. Biology stays the same this, and they all agreed. I said, "Give people new information. Combine quantum physics with neuroscience, with neuroendocrinology, with psychoneuroimmunology, with epigenetics, with electromagnetism. Build models of understanding. Get people to learn new information. They're gonna have new thoughts." Now, give them the instruction so they can make a new choice. They can do a new thing. They can create a new experience, they can feel a new emotion. Will their biology change in seven days? Lo and behold, the change way greater than we ever expected. Novice meditators. People who never came to a week-long event, never really meditated that much. The novice meditators.

• 36:52Joe Dispenza?

  Seven days, their biology at the end of seven days looked like they were living in a whole new life. And it wasn't, you know, 20% or 10%, it was the majority of the collective. Now, all of those people have different genomes, different genotypes, and they're all different cultures, different races, different ages. But when we look at the biology of gene expression, they're signaling the same genes. They're making the same proteins, the collective, the herd, the flock, the school of fish, there's an emergent biology that's changing collectively.

• 37:32Joe Dispenza?

  The probability of that happening is insanely minimal. Let me just say that. So then, think differently, make a different choice, do a different thing, create a new experience, feel a new emotion, keep doing that, your biology will change. And that's exactly how people heal. So, the emotions that keep us, I would say, in our more limited animal, Amelian, human state, have everything to do with anger and aggression, fear and anxiety, and suffering, and pain, and guilt, and shame, and, you know, our resentment, all of those, those are, think

• 38:12Joe Dispenza?

  of, think of energy as emotion. So those emotions should ultimately be retired as wisdom. Because the memory without the emotional charge is wisdom, and now, the game is over, and you're ready for a new experience. And you can't go to the future, holding on to the emotion of the past, right? So you've got to overcome that emotional state. So then, you start feeling gratitude, you start feeling more gratitude, you start feeling love, you start feeling more love, you start feeling kindness, you start feeling care, you start feeling appreciation, you start feeling creative, you start feeling inspired, you practice feeling those emotions, and you get that heart of yours back into balance. We discovered that

• 38:53Joe Dispenza?

  once energy makes it to the heart, it's going right to the brain. And it's going to go straight up, and it's going to tell the brain, in that moment, the heart is the creative center. It's safe to create. And the person moves out of survival. And the brain, like grabbing a big sheet and going like that. Creates a wave of energy right to the brain. Coherent energy of the brain. And the brain goes into a creative alpha state. And the brain is getting information. The heart is informing the brain. Think of something new. Think of a new possibility. It's a creative state. And the person starts seeing pictures and images. Well, keep sustaining that relaxed in your heart, awaken your brain. We just see how long people can hang with that. We got the brain and heart hooked up together. And then here it comes.

• 39:38Joe Dispenza?

  You start seeing resonance taking place. There's waves, riding waves and faster waves building on waves. So delta, the base is carrying theta. But it's a harmonic and theta is carrying alpha and alpha is carrying beta. Beta is carrying high beta and high beta is going in the gamma. And then when that occurs, the person is feeling ecstasy. There's an arousal. An arousal taking place in the nervous system. But the arousal isn't fear.

• 40:05Lewis Howes?

  It's not fear.

• 40:06Joe Dispenza?

  It's not fear. It's not anger. It's not pain. That's typically what creates an arousal. The arousal is ecstasy. So the person is feeling wholeness. They're feeling connected. They're feeling aware. They're super conscious. The brain is no longer in just coherence. The brain is in resonance. There's waves carrying waves. There's harmonics. There's order within order. There's patterns within patterns, nested observer windows. The brain is functioning mathematically. And so you see that happening. And you ask the person from their subjective experience, how did that feel? They say, I felt so whole. I felt such bliss. I felt such connection. I felt such pure love. I no longer wanted anything.

• 40:50Joe Dispenza?

  I no longer, it's impossible to want when you're in that state.

• 40:54Lewis Howes?

  No desires for something. Cause you're not in lack.

• 40:56Joe Dispenza?

  There's no, you're in wholeness. The exact opposite. And that's the place to create from. Not from lack. Cause lack means I'm going to wait for that thing to happen out there. To take away the lack or separation from not having it. Right? This is like your body's believing it's already in that future. And that's exactly what we discovered at the end of seven days. People move into that state and they're, they're making. Thousands of metabolites, information is in their blood. At the end of seven days, it wasn't there before and they're not taking any exogenous substance. They're not changing their diet. It's coming from within them. So then, the person who starts feeling wholeness, it gets very difficult to describe those emotions. It's inevitable.

• 41:40Joe Dispenza?

  I mean, we ask people, "What was it?" And they just, they're just well up in tears and they say, "I don't know. It's the most familiar, unfamiliar feeling I've ever had. Like, I'm remembering what I forgot. Like, I forgot that I'm this. I am pure love. I am, I am this, you know?" And I think when we have those experiences, at least when I've had those experiences, I think the takeaway is that it didn't come from out there, from anyone or anything. It came from within me. And I think that's the real fundamental moment where people stop looking outside of them. It's always been within them. And that relationship that they develop, okay. Yeah, we all take hard knocks during our lives and we all have stressors in our life

• 42:21Joe Dispenza?

  and we're all trying to do as much as we can, you know, walk the tightrope. But, but, a person who every single day says, "I'm not gonna get up from my meditation until I absolutely feel like I'm that person." Man, it's a very different thing because, and people say, "Why do you do your meditations in the morning?" I say, "'Cause if I can overcome me, the rest of my day is easy." Right. I mean, I can overcome anybody, right? So, how long are you gonna sit with you? That's one of the things in our week-long events, you know? I'm on the, I'm on the stage watching the whole thing. By the fourth day or so, first day, everybody's all over the place. Fourth day or so, everybody's like this. They're just sitting right there, they're paying complete attention.

• 43:03Joe Dispenza?

  I say to them, "When have you sat with yourself this long where you actually like yourself?" They're all completely present, completely present. Their mind is not wandering anywhere because they've practiced for the last four days to catch that thought of the worst-case scenario and bring it back. That's a victory. Yes. That's a victory. That's not, "You didn't do your meditation well." Catching yourself going unconscious and becoming conscious and disinvesting your attention and energy out of that predictable future. Back into the present moment is executing a will that's greater than that program. And that is a victory. That's not like you didn't meditate, you're actually doing it right. Then all of a sudden, your mind defaults and it wanders to some past memory of a person or a thing or circumstance, you start feeling that emotion. And all of a sudden, you start getting frustrated or impatient.

• 43:48Joe Dispenza?

  And instead of getting up and saying, I can't meditate. You notice that you're siphoning energy out of the present moment into the past. You settle your body out of back down out of frustration. And you move back into the present moment. That's a victory. And you're telling the body, it's no longer the mind, that I'm the mind. And I didn't do your meditation wrong, you're actually doing it right. You're conditioning the body to a new mind. Keep doing that over and over again. David starts getting a hand on Goliath. And it's uncomfortable and it's tedious and it takes energy and it takes awareness. And you gotta hang in there. And the hardest part of every war is the last battle. And just when you think you're done, you gotta go a little further. And if I take people past that point.

• 44:31Joe Dispenza?

  And there's a collective group of people and they say, I can't go any further. And they go a little further because the person next to them is a sweet little woman in her seventies and they're in thirty and buffed and like, I can't go, she's not gone, I'm not going. And they go, and they go a little further, that's when the brain changes the most. Because they just broke out, out of the known into the unknown and nothing dangerous happened, nothing scary happened, there was no threat, there was no danger. And people start relaxing more into the unknown. Turns out, that's the perfect place to create from. Wow. So, the side effect of these higher states of consciousness, these greater frequencies or energies. Is the outcome really of managing our attention and energy and inhibiting the thoughts that

• 45:13Joe Dispenza?

  produce those hormones and those feelings and no longer driving the body into a lower denominator. Sooner or later, you keep doing that, energy moves only in one direction and it moves up. And it moves into the heart and once it makes it to the heart, it's going right to the brain. And the person all of a sudden starts feeling relaxed and awake. Instead of stressed out, unconscious and in a program. And so.

• 45:38Joe Dispenza?

  The idea then is to be able to get very good at doing that with your eyes open. So the practice of doing that in your daily life then is then living in a different state of being independent of what's going on in your outer world, thinking differently, acting differently and feeling differently in the same reality until it changes.

• 46:00Lewis Howes?

  Right, because most of us it seems like are awake but unconscious. And what I'm hearing you say is we've got to practice having our eyes open and being cautious at the same time.

• 46:10Joe Dispenza?

  Exactly. That's all purpose of doing the work.

• 46:12Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 46:12Joe Dispenza?

  Is I mean, you're doing the work so you don't default.

• 46:15Lewis Howes?

  Uh huh.

• 46:16Joe Dispenza?

  The default is is automatic. It's so quick. You have one stray thought, one response. And then you just lost, you just lost your state of being. And if you blame someone and you say it's that person or that circumstance, I'm gonna say to you, uh oh, you're back to that unconscious program of being a victim, thinking that that person or that circumstance is controlling how you feel and how you think. You're, you're, you're a consequence of that. And, and now sooner or later, how many times do you have to forget? Until you stop forgetting and start remembering. That's the moment of change. And, and, and breaking a habit is one thing, but breaking a habit of being yourself is not a thing.

• 46:56Lewis Howes?

  Well, here's, here's the thing. Okay, I want to unpack this for a second. For someone watching or listening who's thinking, okay, Dr. Joe, I'm sure you've had some challenges in your life, but you don't have the type of challenges I have. You don't have the childhood trauma that I faced. You don't have the, the parents who were just, you know, detached and didn't show love to me. You don't have the bullying that I went through. You don't have the financial burden that I'm faced with right now and have been in debt for most of my life. You don't have the constant heartbreak I felt from all these different relationships. I'm sure you've had some challenges, but I've really suffered. I've really gone through so much pain that I don't even believe I'm deserving of being healthy and well.

• 47:39Lewis Howes?

  Because all of my evidence from the past is showing that I'm unlovable, that people are gonna abandon me, abuse me, and the world is against me.

• 47:51Lewis Howes?

  How do you get people to understand that they are deserving of health? And this, you know, state of love and gratitude when they continue, continue to convince themselves about the past? And cannot see or believe in a future greater than their past?

• 48:10Joe Dispenza?

  I'd ask them, how long you want to tell that story? Like, I mean, how long you want to tell that story because you believe? As if it's the truth, you behave? As if it's the truth and you've ultimately become it? That's, that's, that's the end of that person's emotional belief. I just want them to tell a different story. In fact,

• 48:34Joe Dispenza?

  you can't tell me any longer that you've had a brutal past and you can't do this work. You can't tell me that. We've had some people with some really brutal pasts, really, really difficult pasts. And we're talking about abuse, molestation, trauma, murder. Veterans, Navy SEALs, people who've witnessed and seen really horrible things and had really horrible moments. And they had all kinds of health conditions.

• 49:06Joe Dispenza?

  The, the trauma wasn't just in their brain, the trauma was in their body because it was the emotion that kept them in the past. Right? And they couldn't, couldn't get past that emotion. They tried everything, all the plant medicines, all, you know, all the diets, everything. They just couldn't get past it. They just didn't know how to do it.

• 49:23Lewis Howes?

  The memory, they couldn't get past the memory.

• 49:24Joe Dispenza?

  They just didn't understand why they were there and what to do to help them to get out. Right?

• 49:31Joe Dispenza?

  So,

• 49:33Joe Dispenza?

  so many of these people that had brutal pasts also had really difficult health challenges. They had endometriosis, they had depression, they had night terrors, suicidal tendencies, blackouts, vertigo.

• 49:48Joe Dispenza?

  Ovarian cysts, you know, all kinds of crazy things. And they did the work because nothing else was was working. And many of them came to the point where they did their meditation. Every single day, every day, they never missed a day because nothing else was working. They believed that this could work. They just didn't believe it could work for them. Right. So they were doing their meditations to actually believe, right?

• 50:14Joe Dispenza?

  They had to change their emotional state and they reached the point. Uh, and typically when they come to the weak lungs, because I stretch people a little further. They were already feeling a little better and they were already doing better. But they reached a point where they just thought, oh, my God, this is the worst feeling I've ever had in my life. I don't think I'd go any further. And then they think, oh, my God, I've never missed a day. In my, in my meditations, I can't, I can't give up on me now. And they go one more time. And the words that we hear over and over again is always the same. It's like my heart blew wide open. It was like my heart exploded. It was like my heart opened up all the way. I felt something move through my heart and I felt more love than I felt my entire life. And they look back at their entire past.

• 50:55Joe Dispenza?

  And they don't want to change one thing in their past because the feeling that they have, they realize that they had to go through all of that. To get to the present moment, and that's the moment the past no longer exists. And they look at their betrayers. They look at their molesters, they look at the tyrants and and they have nothing but compassion and love for them. And the relationship changes with those people. And the moment their heart blows open, the body literally comes out of the past. Because when energy makes it to the heart, it resets the baseline in the brain and the autonomic nervous system for trauma. It says, it's over. And the body literally moves out of the past. And the side effect of that, there goes the depression, there goes the endometriosis. Here goes the night terrors.

• 51:40Joe Dispenza?

  And and the person would, they they don't want to change anything in their past. They'll tell you, I. No, no, no, no, no. This all had to happen for me to change. So many people with diseases will say, I just didn't know it. I would have never changed. I would have never changed unless I had this health condition. I would have never changed. This was the push for me to change. And they, they would say, um, I was too sick to do their meditation in the beginning. But you know what? There were days they felt really bad and they could have said, Hmm, I don't feel like doing my meditation today, but guess what? They did it anyway. And they overcame their body a little bit more that day.

• 52:23Joe Dispenza?

  And there were days they, they had a lot of self doubt because their condition was getting worse and their family was worried about them. And they could have said, ah, this is too much. I have too much doubt. I'm not, I can't do this. Guess what? They did it anyway and they overcame their doubt a little bit more.

• 52:37Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 52:38Joe Dispenza?

  And there were days where they had a lot of fear because they were given the voodoo curse that they had six months to live or a year to live. And like I said, I, I have too much fear today. I can't do my meditation, but they did it anyway. Instead of surrendering the fear, they surrendered to love. And it was the overcoming process. That was the becoming process. That is the unlearning process. And if 95% is how we're hardwired in terms of attitudes, beliefs and perceptions, how we're habituated in terms of behaviors and actions, and how we're conditioned into our emotional responses, then there's going to take a lot of work in the overcoming process because you gotta get so conscious that you don't go unconscious again. And you, it's a process of going unconscious to the point where you no longer go unconscious

• 53:23Joe Dispenza?

  and you stay conscious. You ask that person, where the, where the, where is the disease now? Where is it now? They'll tell you, it's in the old person. It's the old guy. It's that person. It's that old person. It's not me. I'm not that victim anymore. I'm not that person anymore. And again, they were doing their meditations to change. They were doing their meditations three times a day, not because they wanted their meditations to heal them. They just defaulted back to the old self and they started disbelieving again. So they were doing their meditations every day to believe. And they would not get up until they felt the feeling of that future because they knew consciously, if I could feel this emotion, I'm signaling genes ahead of the environment. And I'm going to keep feeling this feeling with the intention of signaling the gene.

• 54:07Joe Dispenza?

  And that was their intention. Of course, they started producing a greater outcome. So they were doing their meditations to strengthen their belief three times a day because they lost their belief. Now, you can't say to me, you're too out of shape, or you're too in shape, or you're too unhealthy, or you're too old, or you're too young. You saw, we have people that are 12 years old, or 10 years old that come to our events. Teens sitting around, yeah, yeah. We have hundreds of kids that come on the age of 25, you know, a huge youth community. We have people that are in their 90s and their 80s. They have elegant brain scans. They have beautiful heart coherence. You can't tell me you're too old to do it, you know, you can't tell me you're too young. You can't tell me you're too sick. You can't tell me you're, you know, you had a brutal past.

• 54:50Joe Dispenza?

  Or you're out of shape. You can't say any of those things any longer. I mean, no one's so special to be excluded from this process. And again, I think one of the things, I'm gestating part of the time here, but one of the things that people need is knowledge and information. I mean, the data that we have in our scientific research just tells us that we're greater than we think, more powerful than we know, more unlimited than we could ever dream. The testimonials of people standing on a stage, you've seen them. With stage four cancers that spread to their bones, to their liver, to their lungs, to their pelvic organs, the kitten walk, they were in so much pain. No drug trial, no chemo, no radiation, no surgery was changing, no diet was changing them.

• 55:34Joe Dispenza?

  And now they're up there with no evidence of cancer. You hear that story, it's the four-minute mile. Yeah. That is, evidence is the loudest voice. Yes. And when you see a person that doesn't look vegan, doesn't look young, doesn't look buffed, that had people steal money from them, that they lost everything, they slit their wrists, they were horrible but bankrupt. They're worth millions now and they're living a happy life and they've got a great relationship and their health condition's all better. You gotta scratch your head and you gotta look and you gotta say... Wow, if that person can do it. Hmm. I think I can do it.

• 56:11Lewis Howes?

  Right.

• 56:12Joe Dispenza?

  And then there's, then there's number two, and then there's number three, and then there's number four.

• 56:15Lewis Howes?

  And there's thousands and thousands.

• 56:17Joe Dispenza?

  Now, now, we had seven people step out of wheelchairs in our last event in Denver. I couldn't believe it. With spinal cord injuries, with brain tumors, with head trauma, with myasthenia gravis, with, um, MS, with ALS.

• 56:32Joe Dispenza?

  I mean, I mean, it's crazy. It just takes one and then, then, uh, collective consciousness. Now it's possible, right?

• 56:40Lewis Howes?

  It's fascinating. When I, you know, when I was at your event and we did the coherence healings towards the end, obviously, once we practiced more of the, the meditations and, and understood the science and understood the research and you really dive in on it, and did the 3am, you know, five, six hour meditations and all these different things we did, it's a beautiful thing to witness. Serving others who need healing with your consciousness collectively. It's incredible thing to witness and to feel the energy. It's not a, it's not a false fake energy. You're like, you're feeling like you're healing yourself as you're intending consciously to heal someone else.

• 57:22Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, which is, that happens. We just had somebody just on the stage, just, that had, um, trigeminal neuralgia. Severe facial pain.

• 57:30Lewis Howes?

  Oh, wow.

• 57:31Joe Dispenza?

  She got on the stage and she said, "I wanted someone to cut my head off."

• 57:35Lewis Howes?

  Oh, man.

• 57:36Joe Dispenza?

  She said, "That's how bad the pain was. I could never get away from it." She said, "During that coherence healing, I, my heart blew wide open. I felt so much love." She said, "I have no pain on my face. And I've done every therapy. I've done every drug. I've taken everything, every narcotic, everything. It's never changed. I have no pain." Like that instantaneous change in her health. So, so when you see...

• 58:00Joe Dispenza?

  I know this is insane. We had, we've had more than one person that had vision problems. All of a sudden, start to see. We've had more than one person with hearing problems start to hear. Just, it just happened recently. It's not uncommon for people. We had a guy that lost his speech. He couldn't talk. He's talking now. He's, he's a happy guy. I've seen people with Parkinson's disease, with bilateral breast cancer. I've seen spinal cord injuries. I've seen all kinds of different health conditions. In, in one, one or two or three coherence healings have a complete change. And it's a really cool thing because people are never being touched. They're just, they're just,

• 58:43Joe Dispenza?

  listen, changing information in the field and it's not matter that's creating the field. It's the field that's creating matter. So if you change the information in the field, could you change the hologram in three dimensional reality? And that's exactly what we teach.

• 58:59Lewis Howes?

  Oh my gosh.

• 58:59Joe Dispenza?

  And that's exactly what we start to see. If tumor is the illusion, it's the hologram. It's the information in the field. If you change the information in the field, can you change the destiny of matter? And when people start to understand it and they can piece it together and they've been practicing all week overcoming themselves, they do that.

• 59:16Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 59:17Joe Dispenza?

  They practice all week opening their heart. They practice all week brain and heart coherence. Now it's time to put it all together. But now this time, it's not about you. That's someone's mother down there. That's someone's best friend. That's someone's kid. You know, that's someone's cousin. That's someone's uncle. That's somebody. And, and I just ask them to actually show up and be the healer that they would want to be healed by. And it's really cool.

• 59:41Lewis Howes?

  I mean, you're just in the last 30 seconds, using vocabulary and language and explaining things. Some people might say, what is this quantum field and 3D and hologram? And that's kind of the tip of the iceberg for what you go into for these seven days. And, you know, one of your quotes that I love is the quantum field responds not to what we want. It responds to who we are being. And when you or I am wanting to serve someone with so much love, when I fill my heart up and have brain, heart coherence with love and gratitude, healing vibration, and I

• 1:00:19Lewis Howes?

  Spread that energy onto someone else, whether it's a stranger or someone I love. And they're in alignment with that. There is a vibration between the two.

• 1:00:27Joe Dispenza?

  There's an exchange.

• 1:00:28Lewis Howes?

  I'm getting chills just thinking about it now. There's a vibration. You sort of waving of a sheet that connects in the middle and the center is this. Power of love that is healing.

• 1:00:39Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Lewis Howes?

  It is a beautiful thing. And. One of the things I wanted to ask you about this, this frequency, this emotion, this love. Is, is it possible?

• 1:00:53Lewis Howes?

  To heal ourselves with our thoughts and with meditation alone? And is it possible to heal another with our thoughts? Our love, our heart coherency alone? Even if they don't respond to it and they're not doing it themselves? Is it possible to influence without them doing the work?

• 1:01:14Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, that's a really great question. Um, gosh, I, I, I think my belief. Uh, in what's possible. Uh, has changed dramatically in the last two years. I'm not the same person because of the things that I've witnessed. I mean. I, I, I saw a person with muscular dystrophy that was in a wheelchair for 12 years. Uh, young guy. Uh, if you study muscular dystrophy. Um, there's no, there's no, there's no cure.

• 1:01:40Lewis Howes?

  No coming back.

• 1:01:41Joe Dispenza?

  There's no coming back and um.

• 1:01:43Lewis Howes?

  I think I saw this video.

• 1:01:44Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, they lit him up and he was out of his wheelchair. He's walking around in his life now. I mean. That, that, I mean, I can't go back to business as usual. I watched that. I watched, I watched that video a hundred times. I just don't want to forget what's possible. I was on a. Being interviewed for a documentary and. Uh, the, the interviewer, unbeknownst to me, I didn't know anything about it, said, what about the woman in your work that grew her thyroid back? And I was like. What? Like, what are you talking about? She said, yeah, she grew her thyroid back. I'm like, what? I didn't know anything about it. Like, I'm like, no. Like, she's like, yeah, yeah. She, we have the medical records and everything. And this woman. Grew her thyroid back.

• 1:02:18Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:02:20Joe Dispenza?

  It stretched me, you know, and so, okay.

• 1:02:26Joe Dispenza?

  There's a lot that has to happen for us to make this journey, right? You get diagnosed with a health condition and it's a terminal health condition or chronic health condition and you're compromised in some way and you're reliant on something to get you back into health and balance. And that's what the conventional model is, but if it isn't working, you have to start looking. Some people just, they just, they shrink into mediocrity and they stay there. Yes. People are bothered by it and they're gonna look for answers. Okay, so the person starts looking for answers. We had some lady that, someone, Amazon accidentally mailed, accidentally mailed my book, You Are The Placebo, to her house and she didn't order it and she just put it on the, on her coffee table.

• 1:03:08Joe Dispenza?

  And she had Parkinson's disease and finally after like three months, she picked up the book and she saw the brain scans on Parkinson's, she started doing the meditations. She came to the week long retreat. She completely healed of Parkinson's. She was on a stage selling the story. This is crazy, right? So, so now the person heals herself, okay, as an example. Now, a person who heals themselves, I've seen Green Berets, I've seen Navy SEALs with a lot of physical and emotional health conditions really heal. The only thing they wanna do is they wanna give, they wanna, they wanna, they wanna bring it to their people, they wanna bring it to their tribe, they wanna bring it to the people they love. And, and the really, the intention is, I wanna heal somebody else, right? And so you, you're healed, the next thing is you wanna heal somebody else. Spread the word.

• 1:03:53Joe Dispenza?

  But your model has to change.

• 1:03:56Joe Dispenza?

  If I healed myself and I've actually changed my energy, can I kinda heal another person? And that's exactly what we do. We say, okay, now that you can change your health, can you change another's health? Let's build a model of understanding and let's do that. And we did the model of understanding and all of a sudden I see people stepping out of wheelchairs left and right and people, blind people seeing, crazy things going on, a lot of remissions of diseases. I'm more surprised about that than anybody. Covid happens and then we're like. Hmm, can we actually, if we're in the quantum field and there's no separation there, can we just hit a target? Just give us a picture, coordinate. We have remote coherence healers.

• 1:04:31Lewis Howes?

  Yeah, fascinating.

• 1:04:32Joe Dispenza?

  And these, these, these people do it, listen, they do it, they do it every day.

• 1:04:38Lewis Howes?

  They're machines.

• 1:04:39Joe Dispenza?

  They do it, they never miss a day. They would never miss a day. And the reason they'd never miss a day is because they get so much out of it. And they're not doing it to heck.

• 1:04:48Lewis Howes?

  By trying to heal another.

• 1:04:49Joe Dispenza?

  They're not trying to heal another, they're actually healing another.

• 1:04:51Lewis Howes?

  Healing another that is not even, that they don't even know.

• 1:04:53Joe Dispenza?

  They don't even know, and they're not even in the same room. They're spread across the world.

• 1:04:56Lewis Howes?

  It's crazy.

• 1:04:57Joe Dispenza?

  And they're hitting a target. They're hitting a target.

• 1:04:59Lewis Howes?

  They see an image and they visualize that target.

• 1:05:02Joe Dispenza?

  They just go to the field and they hold that person in their heart and they just, and they change their energy. So, so then the model builds more now. Now, can you heal at a remote location? The answer is absolutely yes. In fact, our studies with UC San Diego is insane. I mean, I said to the scientists, when in your life did you think you would be sitting, talking about the effects of remote coherence healings that are working as well as drugs? When, better than drugs, actually, when have you ever thought you'd be talking about this? So, our data suggests that it's real, right? We did a triple-blind placebo study. And there's absolutely no doubt that these people are causing some profound effects. We just published another paper, paper about the mathematical synchronization

• 1:05:45Joe Dispenza?

  of the heart of groups of people that collectively get together, how they synchronize, you know, there's, we published a paper, it's mathematical, it's real, right? It's a lot of science, but there's some effect that's happening in the people's hearts that are feeling the same amount of love. They're training to a similar resonance, a similar frequency. Okay? So now, they're, they did an amazing, amazing study, preliminary study on autistic children. Okay? Now, I'm telling you this because I want you to know that this isn't conjecture, this is reality. Boys, young boys, between the ages, I think of six and 12. And these are problematic kids. They've done the physical therapy, the occupational therapy, the speech

• 1:06:26Joe Dispenza?

  therapy, the inhibition therapy, the talk therapy. They've tried the nutrients, the vitamins, they tried everything, and then they're not responding, they haven't changed much. They're, they're head bangers, they're incontinent, they don't sleep, they're obsessive, they have outbursts, they have no sociability, they have no gross motor skills, their language is compromised. Now, we decided, instead of doing,

• 1:06:50Joe Dispenza?

  Uh, scientific analysis, we decided to have the best scientists take a look at their kids, and that's the parents, right? So they We did. They, parents know every single thing about that kid because they have all their attention. They know every habit, they know every behavior, they know every obsession.

• 1:07:07Joe Dispenza?

  Six weeks, two times a week.

• 1:07:10Joe Dispenza?

  These kids, at the end of six weeks, speaking in complete sentences, sleeping through the night, taking naps, walking themselves to school, using the toilet, no longer defecating or urinating in their bed, um, hugging their parents when they come home, asking for what they want, jumping on the trampoline, being, uh, in a school place, and, and the, and the, it's insane. It's, the parents are overjoyed. Wow. Their lives have changed dramatically because their kid is somehow changed, they're smiling, more engaging, right? They're not even in the room and they're producing these effects. So, back to your question.

• 1:07:50Joe Dispenza?

  This is an evolution. If you're, you, you never know what you'll think in differently until you have a new experience. Right. New experience causes you to think of possibilities you would never thought of before, and there is an infinity, there's infinities, because you and I are making known, unknown possibilities by having a new experience, and we start thinking of other ways, and that's consciousness, and it's never-ending process of self-discovery. The answer to the question, who am I, right? Right. So, so, so then, so then what we discovered is that in our, in our data collection,

• 1:08:25Joe Dispenza?

  that people that are the most desperate tend to be the, the, the less likely to respond because they're waiting for their healing to feel gratitude. They haven't realized that when they feel gratitude, their healing begins. Yeah. So, that's not a problem, we just have to, we have to work with them to get them out of that state, and that's what I do when everybody's getting ready, I work with the healies.

• 1:08:50Joe Dispenza?

  We noticed that people who actually are in the river of change. They are actually working on changing something about themselves. They receive that energy better. We noticed that when people are grateful, super grateful to be there, that energy just hits them. It hits them really big. But we also see that people that don't do the work, that it's just their moment. You know, it's just their moment. It's just their moment and they get lit up. And I've seen bodies contort, twist and convulse and turn red and shake. I mean, I've seen grown men scream at the top of their lungs. That guy that lost his boss's voice for two years that was ready to take his life.

• 1:09:32Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:09:33Joe Dispenza?

  He had one moment. He never was touched. The moment people walked in the room, he said, I felt this ball of energy right in my heart, in my throat. This guy's not a whales in space woo woo guy. He's a businessman. He was just ready.

• 1:09:48Lewis Howes?

  It's his moment.

• 1:09:49Joe Dispenza?

  It was his moment. And then I heard him yelling so loud because the energy was so intense and he was coming up off the ground. I was watching him. Then he'd fall back down and come up again. Nobody was touching him. They were all with their eyes closed, like they had no idea what was going on. Eighty percent of his voice came back after that first intervention.

• 1:10:08Lewis Howes?

  After the coherence healing.

• 1:10:09Joe Dispenza?

  After the coherence. Gets on the stage, tells a story. Of course, what do you think's going to happen to the energy in the room? People are just going to go more in, right? Now their belief is just elevated. The person that stands on the stage that no longer has stage four cancer, they tell their story. They're no longer in a wheelchair. They were in a wheelchair for seven years. You know, like you shake your head and you're like, I don't want people to forget that. I don't want them to forget. I don't want them to go back to business as usual. I want them, once you know, you can't not know.

• 1:10:45Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 1:10:46Joe Dispenza?

  And you gotta keep, it's so much easier to forget this information than to remember it because it goes against the program, right?

• 1:10:51Lewis Howes?

  It's so easy to forget if you're not practicing consistently. And one of the things that I've been doing for the last year, since I went to the advanced retreat, was, you know, almost every morning, either in the morning or at night, I'm putting on one of your meditations. And even if I only feel like I have limited time, I'll at least put on a 10 minute morning or evening meditation. I think the one you did like eight years ago or something, right? And there's so many new ones that Martha is always putting on. We did, we were in the sauna three nights ago and she put a 30 minute meditation on in the sauna and talked about elevated emotion. It was like a whole nother level of I'm in pain, but how do we not feel the pain? How do we connect? Like how do we breathe?

• 1:11:31Joe Dispenza?

  It's something to do.

• 1:11:32Lewis Howes?

  It was 200, 200 degrees and I was like, okay, Dr. Joe is speaking to me right now. But the consistency of it has allowed me to continue to feel peace, gratitude and love in my heart.

• 1:11:44Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Lewis Howes?

  Doesn't mean I don't have breakdowns or frustrations or, um, you know, things that I have to deal with. And I notice when I do it less consistently, if there's times where I do it less and I react to things more, I feel more stuck. I feel more physical pain trapped inside of me.

• 1:12:02Joe Dispenza?

  Because, because you know, the difference between you, you were living in a whole different state. You go back to that state and you can notice the difference greater.

• 1:12:07Lewis Howes?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:12:08Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:08Lewis Howes?

  And, um, and like you said towards the beginning, like, once you know, you never want to go back. You just want to keep staying in this beautiful elevated state of emotional peace, harmony and coherence with thinking and feeling and it's incredible feeling. Um, I know people are probably taking a ton of notes and there's so much they want to take action on. You have a, uh, a walk that's happening soon called Walk for the dot world. We're going to link all this up. I want to link up the research paper. I want to get people your meditations because this is something I practice almost daily. I want to get people your books. So we're going to link all these things up.

• 1:12:47Lewis Howes?

  And can you tell us before we wrap up, what this walk around the world is, how people can get involved? And also if they can only do a couple of things each day, what can they do on a daily basis as a habit? To help them improve their health and also? What can we do with walk for the dot world?

• 1:13:08Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, okay, so I'll ask the first question. Three types of stress, physical, chemical, emotional, three types of balance, physical, chemical, emotional. Get two out of those three in order. Third one typically comes around. Get more emotionally balanced, more physically balanced, more chemically balanced. Get more chemically balanced or emotionally balanced, more physically balanced, right? But, but you have to do an inventory every day. You have to ask yourself before you start your day. You know, what, what, what do I, what do I want to bring to the world? Who do I want to become? Let me become that person. Let me disconnect from my outer world. Let me close my eyes. Let me play some music, fill the space. Let me not eat anything, smell anything, taste anything. Let me not move around, experience anything and feel anything. Let me make my inner world more real than my outer world.

• 1:13:51Joe Dispenza?

  Let me remind myself of that 95% the way I think, the way I act, the way I feel. Let me just get so conscious of those thoughts if I can. I'll start tomorrow, it's too late, it's her fault, it's his fault. I don't, something wrong with me. Get really aware of how I speak, how I act. Do I complain, do I blame them, make excuses, like feel sorry for myself? What emotions are my primary emotions? What's my default? Is it anxiety, is it fear, is it self pity, is it unworthiness? What is, what is it? Let's just get real about it. Okay, great day. A great day would be not going there the whole day. And if I catch myself, I'm going to catch myself and I'm not going to say I failed because that's a program. I'm going to say I caught myself. Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to change it now. Let me remind myself of the thoughts I do want to think. Let me remember them so I don't forget them. Let me rehearse my behaviors in my mind so I can do it when I have the opportunity.

• 1:14:36Joe Dispenza?

  I want, I want a shot at this. I want to evolve my life, I want to evolve my experience. And how am I going to feel today? That I want to, I want to feel this feeling, keep bringing it up until I can't forget it. Let me, and then don't get up. Do not get up until you feel that way. And if it takes you an hour, it'd be worth it. And when it's the hardest, it matters the most.

• 1:14:56Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:14:56Joe Dispenza?

  So that's a simple thing to do, that anybody can do. And then, but it's the experiment. The experiment isn't like I'm doing good, or I did it right, or I succeeded, or God loves me, or none of that. It's doing it to see, the experiment is, if I change the way I think, if I change the way I act, if I change the way I feel, will my life change? The answer should be yes, because if you're choosing to evolve your experience, your life should change. And that personality is how you think, how you act, and how you feel. And that personality is intimately connected to your personal reality.

• 1:15:26Lewis Howes?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:15:27Joe Dispenza?

  And if you're not going to change your personality, you're not going to change your personal reality. And most people try to create a new personal reality, has the same personality, it doesn't work. We've got to become somebody else. A simple, practical thing. People say this to me all the time. I have this health goal. I have this wealth goal. And I say to them, that health goal and that wealth goal, you're going to have to go from this person to that person. You will never get to that goal until you change. You cannot. And when you make it about change, watch out. Because the hardest part about change is not making the typical choice you always make. And that's the process of discomfort. And you've just got to get good at being uncomfortable.

• 1:16:04Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:16:05Joe Dispenza?

  You've just got to, you've got to be so good at being uncomfortable that you can sit there and actually regulate and change that really horrible state into something else.

• 1:16:13Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 1:16:13Joe Dispenza?

  And so then, if you keep doing that, your life should change. I mean, that's the way it should be.

• 1:16:18Lewis Howes?

  It's a constant practice. It's a constant practice of being awake.

• 1:16:23Joe Dispenza?

  And remember.

• 1:16:24Lewis Howes?

  When you're awake. And remembering the future. I think I told you, my friend, Humble the Poet, has a tattoo right here. It says, "Remember the future," after one of our first interviews. He got that. And it constantly reminds him to not think about the past and the pain and the worry, the frustration from something that happened. But to remember his potential and step into that now.

• 1:16:42Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:43Lewis Howes?

  Walkforthe.world. What is this? And how can we get involved?

• 1:16:48Joe Dispenza?

  Well, gosh, I don't know about you, but I think I know you well enough. Just how the world is, just seems really different these days. And I think that the world needs a change. And I think there's an energy that you and I have, and we make up our mind to change, there's, it's an energy. And when you, when you make up your mind to change, you combine a clear intention with an elevated emotion, and that's a powerful signature of energy in the field. And that's the moment your body starts responding to your mind, and you're giving your body a taste of the future emotionally, and you're changing your state of being. Keep that up, and your life changes, right? Nothing changes until you change. Change your energy, change your life. Okay.

• 1:17:29Joe Dispenza?

  The world can't change without you. The world can't change without me. The world can't change without anybody. And if you get enough people to change, you could actually change the world. So what if you had thousands of people from? We have 152 different countries registered right now for this Walk for the World on September 23rd. What if they don't have to be, you don't have to do this work. You have never done walking meditation before. You show up. And you're gonna have to leave something behind. A something that you wanna see in the world, then you're gonna have to walk as that. Wow. Walk as that. Not only, not only just for the walking meditation. At the end of that walk, it just begins. Because you gotta be able to walk out into your life and show people what love does.

• 1:18:13Joe Dispenza?

  You gotta show them what greatness looks like. You gotta show them what nobility and character is. You gotta have an uncompromising will. You gotta be able to face adversity and be able to be relaxed in your heart and awaken your brain and completely disagree and be unintimidated by it. I mean, that's the new consciousness. And so there is an energy of change. And with that energy of change comes a new consciousness. You get enough people together moving into a new state of being and conscious of a change in the world in some way. Thousands of people. We're at 50,000 people right now. And we have 2,000-plus groups, 2,100 groups organized around the world to do this walk. Incredible.

• 1:18:54Joe Dispenza?

  And so I, I, it'll be one of many that we do. But it is a Walk for the World. And we have to show up as that, whatever we wanna see as change in the world. So it'll be September 23rd. We'll, we'll, we'll have the meditation available. You can go to the website and register. We recommend registering. We'll send you the meditation. It'll be a big day. We're partnering with some organizations. And even if we just change the trajectory just two degrees from that cliff we're headed off of, we got a little bit more time. We do it again. We're moving further. It's incredible. And I think, I think that...

• 1:19:34Joe Dispenza?

  Collective networks of observers determine reality and the coming of a new consciousness. This emergent consciousness is not one person.

• 1:19:40Lewis Howes?

  Hey.

• 1:19:41Joe Dispenza?

  It's collective.

• 1:19:41Lewis Howes?

  Hundred percent.

• 1:19:42Joe Dispenza?

  And, and we gotta, and then, and, and emergent consciousness, the flock of birds, the school of fish, there's no leader. Everybody's leading. Everybody's behaving the same way.

• 1:19:51Lewis Howes?

  Wow.

• 1:19:51Joe Dispenza?

  And the appearance of that collective group of organisms gives the appearance of a larger organism. And there's power in numbers. And so our idea is to peacefully make a difference in the world in some way. And, and to practice being that change we want to see and, and get caught up in the energy of it. Uh, so that at the end of that walk, you feel like there's hope again.

• 1:20:13Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 1:20:14Joe Dispenza?

  The world needs some hope.

• 1:20:15Lewis Howes?

  Big time. Uh, Dr. Joe, I'm going to link all this up, walk for the dot world. Like you need to, you know, walk at walk for the world, but run to the website for your advanced retreat. Because it is, it, if you can get there and then you can go all in, which you saw me there. I was all in.

• 1:20:35Joe Dispenza?

  Dude, you were all in.

• 1:20:36Lewis Howes?

  I was like, first one, like, let's go, whatever you tell me to do, I'm all in. I'm doing the crazy screaming, whatever it is, I'm in it.

• 1:20:42Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah. But, but, but the great thing about you is that, but it, we discovered that if you go all in, you're going to change. We, we know that for a fact now. You just, that means just show up.

• 1:20:54Lewis Howes?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:54Joe Dispenza?

  And you're only as good as your last meditation and then you let it go and you go again. And that's it. You keep going.

• 1:21:00Lewis Howes?

  You gotta keep being consistent, but me and Martha did it. We loved it. I've recommended a bunch of people to go since then. They've loved it. Once they finally got in, um, go there. If you get a chance, download, uh, your meditations. You've got a ton of meditations on your website. I listened to the morning and evening routine. If you feel like, ah, I don't want to go too long right away, just they're 10 minutes, 15 minutes each.

• 1:21:22Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah, we have 15, like 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 20 minutes.

• 1:21:26Lewis Howes?

  You got so many long ones that are amazing.

• 1:21:28Joe Dispenza?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:28Lewis Howes?

  But you can just get started with a 10 minute meditation and the morning and evening, I think, I recommend everyone to get started with.

• 1:21:34Joe Dispenza?

  For, for, for what we talked about, morning and evening is, is really practical.

• 1:21:37Lewis Howes?

  Yes.

• 1:21:38Joe Dispenza?

  But I really feel like knowledge is the precursor to experience. So. It's important to understand what we're doing and why we're doing so the how gets easier. So gaining information about it helps to the meditation be more meaningful.

• 1:21:51Lewis Howes?

  Absolutely.

• 1:21:52Joe Dispenza?

  If you go in and you get it and you don't really understand it, read something that just helps you to remove conjecture, doubt, superstition, dogma. I don't like any of that stuff.

• 1:22:01Lewis Howes?

  Sure, sure.

• 1:22:02Joe Dispenza?

  So get a little, get a little information to help you understand the what, no, why.

• 1:22:06Lewis Howes?

  Go through more information. You got a ton of the research papers up on your website as well. We'll have that linked up. And if you guys, you know, leave a comment on the biggest takeaway from today's episode. I know there's going to be tons of notes and comments, but the biggest takeaway for you, what resonated, what stood out, share this with a friend you think would help them as well. And Dr. Joe, I'm just so grateful for you for, I don't know how many times I've had you on, but I think I was looking at earlier today, our interviews have over 40 million views.

• 1:22:35Joe Dispenza?

  Wow.

• 1:22:36Lewis Howes?

  Just on YouTube alone.

• 1:22:37Joe Dispenza?

  Wow.

• 1:22:37Lewis Howes?

  That's not just the audio. It's probably even more, way more. And, you know, I love when we come together. I love this type of information. I'm always learning. You're well advanced more than I am, and I'm constantly just trying to, just trying to grasp onto some of your information and apply it because every time I apply your content and do the work, I get better results. I feel better about my life. I feel more peace and more harmony. And, you know, if I can share that with others to help them get more of that, then that's exciting for me. So I appreciate you. I know people want more of you. They can follow you on social media. They can go to the events. He will be back on soon. So make sure you're here for another interview. We're going to talk about some more amazing

• 1:23:21Lewis Howes?

  things. Dr. Joe, thanks so much.

• 1:23:23Joe Dispenza?

  Thanks.

• 1:23:23Lewis Howes?

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