Restaraunt Reservation Scam with Edy Modica

Our sister in schemes joins us to tell us about the time she was foot pic scammed. Or was it a kink? We're figuring it out. While we do, we're diving deep into the scam that gets people paying out big money to sit at some of the best restaurants in the world. How much would you be willing to pay above asking price for a three-Michelin-star restaurant? And is it really a scam if you get the table? Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Edy Modica: @doodiehole See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 2:20Speaker 05

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• 2:51Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. One thing is for sure is we'll never make fun of their victims, but we, there's a high chance we'll laugh at them. And congregation, you already know I'm what? Yes, excited, thrilled, elated, enlivened. Yes, by today's guest. Today's guest is a comedian, actor, and filmmaker, Edie Modica, okay, in that mode. And is best known for her breakout role in Jury Duty, which landed her on The Hollywood Reporter's list of supporting actors who stole the scene. This is the kind of crime we like over here. Yes.

• 3:35Laci Mosley?

  And her debut comedy special, produced by Emmy and Peabody-winning Production House, Irony Point, which is called "I'm Just Like You and It Sucks", is out in wide release on YouTube September 17th. So get into that, "I'm Just Like You and It Sucks." Ooh, that's a, that's a real word, especially in these times, in this economy. Edie, Edie Modica, welcome to the show.

• 3:59Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.

• 4:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I love that you're using our words. You know our words over here. I, at this point, I have the lexicon of like Love Island, uh, like, uh, my little Sims, that's what I like to call my beautiful little Sims. They be on there saying like genuinely all the time and I'm like, damn, this is how I'm starting to sound. I got three words, what happened? But I'm not gonna make fun of them babies, okay, they're going through enough, but. It's true. Right, like, that's, that's kind of a little bit of a scam in itself. I'm like, why y'all go put these little Sims on here? And somebody put it in such a great reference way. We are watching these people, you know, in a Stanford prison experiment. It's just experiment. They're sleep deprived, they're, you know, what did they give them? The food that makes them fart all day, they got avocados, eggs. Avocados.

• 4:45Laci Mosley?

  Avocados, eggs, avocados, eggs, and apples. So, and then, and then they gotta go kiss strangers all the time. And somebody put it in a great way, they were like, if we just look up the time that they've been shooting, it's around eight hundred hours of footage and we only see thirty-six hours. Yes. So we're judging these people off of, what, less than four percent or like around four percent of their experience? So, keep that in mind, guys. They scamming them sexy babies, they scamming them. I know. But I want to ask you about your relationship with scams. So, I like to play this game sometimes and just ask you a couple of questions and get your opinion.

• 5:27Laci Mosley?

  Is something a scam, is it a scheme, or do you feel like it's a real thing? So, I'm sure you're not gonna be surprised, the first one I'm gonna ask you is jury duty.

• 5:39Laci Mosley?

  How do you feel about jury duty? And if you don't mind describing the show to people who may have not been blessed to see it yet, which I, you must be living under a rock, but also I love that for you, but yeah. Um, hmm, well, was it a scam? More of a. Scheme. I think that sounds nicer. If you're talking about in relation, because I'm gonna talk about both, just like real life every day, but like if we're talking about in relation to the TV show you were on, how do you feel like that was? That was a scheme. It was a planned scheme. I can't say scam. No, no, I don't think it's a scam at all, but I'm I'm more so asking about your experience of like the show, like, do you feel like y'all were tricking this person? Where do you lie on that?

• 6:24Laci Mosley?

  I don't think they should keep doing it to men is what I think, or to people, to people. But why men specifically? Well, because they only do it to men. Okay, that's. I don't think, I I think um one was enough. And we got the point. It was a very special um show, I think because it had never been done, but to keep doing it, I'm a little like, I'm probably gonna get in trouble. Oh, no, no, no, we're not gonna get you in trouble. I'm just like, I feel, I feel a little bad, but also he's fine. Yeah, and also, Edie, I think that they did it to a man more than once because I feel like women would not be as oblivious.

• 7:08Laci Mosley?

  Like, you're never gonna catch a woman on this shit, like. Well, and women are talking to people too. Like, I feel like men are suffering in silence. Like, they're like, that was weird, but I don't know that I can say that out loud, you know? Yeah, they put themselves in this little prison. Immediately. And getting all the facts. Did you see that? Weird, right? You saw that, right? Exactly. I can't shut up. Same. So I would get to the bottom of it. Lunch break, I would have been like, so let's all gather up, because some may like. I'm feeling something about this, you know?

• 7:39Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, the feelings, the feelings that are facts would have come out. Yes. That's a nice way to put it, though, that like these like poor men, because I'm sorry, like, listen, it's very hard for me to support a man. They put themselves in their own prison, and that's why it's stuck there. But you're so right, they would be the ones to process things in their brains and then be like, but but if everybody else is acting normal, I'm I'm a man. Yes, I'm getting even more normal. Mm-hmm. Remember for a while, it was like a popular thing that. The manosphere was doing, I don't remember what it was called, but they would go on planes and they like wouldn't watch the TV on the plane, not listen to any music, not read a book, no entertainment. For like as long of flights as they could, where they were just. Like that's masculine?

• 8:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, not sleeping, just white, just white knuckled. Wait, can Joel, can, what do y'all look up the name? Cause there was a name for this if people were doing it. And I was like, why though? Why? You can enjoy yourself. Yeah, raw dogging, raw dogging is hitting for me because it's like raw dogging life where people are like, oh, you're not on medication? You raw dog in life? Like, oh, yeah. So they were like, we're gonna raw dog these flights and like not have anything to entertain us. Specifically on airplanes? Yeah, it was the airplanes were like the, like they started to expand into other experiences where you would wanna entertain yourself, but I think it started with airplanes. It's so dark. Be nice to yourself. Enjoy yourself. It's okay. And like, no, we need to feel pain. I'm like, this is why y'all are so upset. Yes.

• 9:10Laci Mosley?

  But so that makes a lot of sense to me. I would say like actual jury duty, when it's not a show, is also a scheme. Because. Yeah. I've never done it. I haven't either. And now, it's, it's very difficult in our industry to do it because I can't be like, hey Sony, hey Disney, I can't make my job because I have to go sit on this jury. But I'm trying to figure out a way to do it because more black people and more women in general need to be doing jury duty because if we're not there to represent our ilk, our peers, then these people aren't getting a fair trial. You know what I mean? Yes, but who wants to do that? I know, and that's what makes it so hard.

• 9:55Laci Mosley?

  And I think that there's so many people who wanna be cops, like the thirst to be a cop in life is so strange to me. Like that's where we got the term Karen from, you know what I mean? It's like people who wanted to be policing everybody else. Yes. And so those people show up to jury duty. Yeah, ready.

• 10:14Laci Mosley?

  They're like, I brought rocks for the stones. No, you don't get to be executioner too, bro. Put them rocks down.

• 10:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I feel like the people that end up on it are probably the worst kinds of people, or people who are bored or have nothing else going on in their life. That's why they're there. And now they're get to feel like righteous.

• 10:33Laci Mosley?

  Mm hmm. And then I also think, I hope that like retired people, I hope that elderly are going like y'all got a lot of wisdom. Like y'all pop up in there, me, mom, Papa, and instead of getting scammed on the phone, hang out at court and help decide somebody's fate.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Go to court.

• 10:50Laci Mosley?

  But I know that we have to do it too. It's just so hard at this point in my life to give up that time because I simply cannot. They're like, you know, we own you, right? You can't not come. But then if I show up to jury duty, the government gonna be like, you know, we can arrest you, right? Since you're just not coming no more.

• 11:06Speaker 04

  I know. You're like, but I'm an actress. That you understand.

• 11:11Laci Mosley?

  But I think a lot of like really busy people are also, and this is not to take away from people who have free time because they can also be highly intelligent. But I think a lot of highly intelligent people are like, I don't have time for this shit. And then it's like, so now we got a jury of all the George Bush's kids. It's like George Bush dropped off all these kids at the courthouse and left them behind. And now they get to decide your fate.

• 11:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's not right.

• 11:39Laci Mosley?

  It's not. But I'm like, how do we fix them? Like, if you do have the time, guys, you gotta make the sacrifice. Please.

• 11:47Speaker 04

  But not us.

• 11:48Laci Mosley?

  I know. I have to look such a hypocrite. But I'm like, literally, I can't.

• 11:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:52Laci Mosley?

  Because what if I get stuck on like a very long trial? What if, what if we switch that up in the government? What if it was like, okay, we know this is some petty shit. We can get over quickly. Okay, let me get one of them short ones.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 12:04Laci Mosley?

  And I, and I know that everybody would be thirsty to get the short trial, but what if we could bring in like our, like our doctor's notes or our excuses of like why we can't be on anything like a murder trial or something. That way we're there for something.

• 12:17Speaker 04

  Something. I would love to be there for something.

• 12:19Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. How did it feel like even just like in this show recreation? Were you bored ever? Or was it like?

• 12:26Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. There were such long periods of like witnesses going up and being really boring just so that the reality stuff felt more real. But yeah, it was boring. But then also like we, they wouldn't, we wouldn't.

• 12:42Laci Mosley?

  See some of the witnesses before. So then sometimes they have someone get up and they start doing something extremely funny. And we haven't even been briefed on it and we're all like trying not to laugh, like. Not looking at each other like, oh my God, I can't believe they're doing this to us. Right. I think that's a moment where you could laugh though.

• 13:03Laci Mosley?

  Cardi B, when she was on the witness stand. She was so amazing. If I had a Cardi B court case, I would have been up and through there. So funny. We got so many memes. She's a genius. Like, maybe that's.

• 13:19Laci Mosley?

  Like she, and she's constantly getting in legal trouble. So guys, think about it like this. If you sign up for jury duty, you might be at one of Cardi B's hilarious trials. Where she just threw something at somebody or was like, y'all saw her, y'all saw her. Like, come on, come on. Like, you might get one of those. Or Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, she's leaving shit in his bed. I would be seated for that. Seated. Now that's a long trial, so that's gotta be for our board community or our retired community. Yeah, like. Think about it that way. You could, you could get a landmark case. You could become a writer after one of them also.

• 14:01Laci Mosley?

  You could be inspired. Exactly. Yeah, you're so right because there's so many trials that are so famous that then the jurors come out and they write about what really happened. It might be a career change. Right? You could at least get like a pamphlet sized book out of it and sell it on Amazon. Right, a zine. We buying it. We buying the zine. Okay, I think we're giving incentive now for people to go to jury duty. In ways that they haven't before. They keep being like civic duty. Like, nobody wants to do that. Make it sound cool. You could make a zine. Right. Make it like, let's make a deal where we get pulled out of the audience bank, running down in costumes and shit like.

• 14:42Laci Mosley?

  Let Wayne Brady host jury. Like, yeah, we have lawyers and stuff, but in between, you know.

• 14:52Laci Mosley?

  It's so sad that in America, I'm like, you don't, you need to entertain us and we need to maybe be able to get famous and then we'll come. Otherwise, no.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  And it's pissing me off that every profession is coming like turning into that like what do you mean? And I've said this so many times on the show, but I'm like, what do you mean? You're a doctor or a nurse and you're trying to get famous on TikTok? Why you making content? But it's like now every profession's like, I'm a plumber. They call me Joe the crack. Yeah. Yeah, or like a day in the life of a surgeon. Right? And I'm sorry. You need to be paying attention.

• 15:30Laci Mosley?

  But some of it is highly interesting and so I understand they get followers. Cause I didn't know that during these long operation sessions, they be playing music. I didn't know that different types of surgeons like, oh my gosh, I think it's orthopedic surgeons. I could be wrong. Y'all correct me if I am, but there's certain types of surgeons who like play like gangster rap. When they're like known for it. So you might like,

• 15:52Laci Mosley?

  if you imagine you're being put under and you just hear, it said must be died instead of living gangster's pearl and I am like,

• 16:02Laci Mosley?

  but that's what they doing. As soon as we are under, they're turning on their shit. And then they're just cutting on us like I wake up in the valley of the shadow. Why are you cutting on me like this?

• 16:15Laci Mosley?

  So it is interesting. I get the impetus, but I'm also like, maybe everybody go back to doing their job. Yes. Maybe I'm just not privileged to know that. I was never genuinely curious. Yeah, but now it's in your face. Yes. I know, but then when they come, we reward them. Cause like, oh my gosh, you can't get me off of private yacht chef TikTok. I want to know every meal you cooking. I want to know if they assholes, who got too drunk, who fell off the boat. Like, that's why we have Below Deck though. So I'm like, maybe we just let them do it. Yeah, we had that. Yeah, you're so right. It's not necessary for the content creators to do it. I've been watching a bunch of like tone, in-ground toenail infections. Oh.

• 16:56Laci Mosley?

  That's what my entire feed. And there's, I'm following all of these doctors. It's incredible, but it's nasty. Any of your feet okay? They're amazing. I was about to say, you probably have great feet. You don't strike me as somebody who got, I do, but I'm addicted. I wish they had stuff going on so I could look at it. I love. I don't know. I feel like you're looking at these feet and thinking about the foot privilege you have that your wiki feed is so strong.

• 17:24Laci Mosley?

  That's actually the scam I wanted to talk about. Wha- what? I was foot- footpick scammed. Okay, wait a second. We can get to it an hour later. I'm glad that the scam guy have reached out to me to say that, cuz now we, now we know we're, uh-uh, I'm locked in, I'm seated. So what happened? Okay, so I will, like, sell pictures of my feet. Okay. If people are asking. Yeah. Because it's nothing. It's nothing from me. It's joy on both ends. It's fun. I like doing it. With a little sock on. And that's how you get it. You just post a picture of your foot one time. They will find you. Oh, they've already found me. And they'd be in the comments like, great feet. Or I look at my wiki and it's literally every foot.

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  Everything. Exposure. And I like to show other actors who were like a little older about it. And I showed Jerry Traynor about it. I was like, you know you have a wiki, right? And he was like, what's that? And I showed him and he was like, this doesn't even make any sense. This one pictures of my dog. And I looked at him like with the most sinister eyes and I was like, zoom in.

• 18:29Laci Mosley?

  And he was like, oh my god. So, okay, so you have a- a- a great market now. I partake. Yeah. Um, I, there was this guy who asked, like, he was like, can I do the thing with you? And he was like, I like to do it as we go. So like, you send five pictures, I send a hundred dollars. You know? And then I send more pictures. He sends money. And I was like, alright, that's fine. So the first time we did it, that's what we did. He sent me like three hundred dollars. I'm literally just sitting in my room. I was talking with my roommate. They're good. They're nice. Um.

• 19:05Laci Mosley?

  No, cuz he. No, he likes my personality. Um, that's where it's coming from. So this was the first time. Then the second time, he was like, hey, you wanna do it again? I'm not doing anything. Why not? I'm taking pictures. And it said on the PayPal, I mean, this, you can make fun of me. It said on PayPal pending. The payment is pending. And he was like, I live in England, so. And I was like, I guess he's across the pond. It takes time to, you know. Well, PayPal sometimes does have a pending payment. And what's crazy about it is that if you're on the wrong end of that, which I have been, where I sent money that was supposed to go to a family member and it was a lot of money, maybe didn't get it back.

• 19:49Laci Mosley?

  And I was calling PayPal the second I did it. Yes. Yeah, and I was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And they were like, oh, it's above us now. Fuck PayPal. But also sponsor the show PayPal. But continue, so you also said that you were talking to your roommate. So, so God, the PayPal is pending, and then you said something about talking to your roommate? Oh, my, like, I'm just saying, like, I'm hanging out while I'm doing this. Oh, okay, got it. It doesn't take very much for me. No, no. You know? But, okay, but, so this is easy, light work to do the foot pics. Basically, then he was like, oh, yeah, it's because I live in England, whatever. And then eventually the money never came. And during that one, I'm sending, like, my faces in the pictures. He's like, put your toe in your mouth, because as it's going, I'm.

• 20:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, hell, no. No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not gasping.

• 20:37Laci Mosley?

  I'm not gasping at the, the, the functionality. I knew when he said that I want to go back and forth, that he wanted to make sure that whatever he was asking for, he was the only one getting it. Because you know the girls will recycle some shit. The girls be recycling this, this stuff. No, if I'm doing it, I'm doing it full, full on, and I'm gonna do a good ass job. He said he wants today's newspaper in it. I gasped because. And I sat. You locked in, and he not sending the coin. That's why I gasped. Because, like, it's a difference to give me, I can give you a recycled foot. But if I'm giving you new foot, moment to moment foot, where's my shit? Please. And he got me because he did it the first time. You know, he paid me one time, then he was like, I can get more. Hmm, that give a little to get a lot.

• 21:21Laci Mosley?

  And then also, what the fuck he doing with these pictures? Because what if he's flipping the pics and making his own coin? I know. But to who, like, I'm just like, where? What do you mean to who? It feels like he gave you, it feels like he gave you your cut. Like, there's something in pimping, I've been on pimp TikTok a lot, where, like, in Miami, they call them the tricks, right? So a woman will be like, hey, come out with us. Like we got some tricks, they about to give you money, they about to like really run it out. And then you're thinking like, oh, I'm getting money for being a beautiful baddie. That's all I have to do. And then after they give you that first bit of money, they be like, okay, well, we gonna get something out of you as well. And so this is given that where he was like, I'mma give you this money, but now he's got so much more content.

• 22:04Laci Mosley?

  And he could easily have a fake profile up somewhere in England, reselling your foot. Filled with me, toe in the mouth. I feel like he a foot reseller, that's pissing me off.

• 22:17Laci Mosley?

  After that, I kind of, like, I found almost like a new fetish for myself. Because I kind of liked that he was scamming me.

• 22:31Laci Mosley?

  I do like to talk to scammers. We're locked in, we're so locked in, don't even worry about it, Street Heart. They won't talk to me back. Like, they'll hit me up, and then I'll start texting with them. And then I can't help myself, I start putting on Instagram stories like, ay yo, I got one of those fake number things.

• 22:47Laci Mosley?

  I'm trying to. But then I get too eager and I put it on Tik, or I put it on Instagram or something. See it, and they're like, oh, fuck, like, they'll be like, never mind. And I'm like, no way, you said we got a golf appointment.

• 23:01Laci Mosley?

  And they leave me. And that makes you feel some type of way that I'm getting ghosted by scammers. But so you, you, now you feeling involved. Okay, okay. And what did that do for you? Like, I kind of liked, then I kind of got into the idea of him, of being scammed. Like, the power dynamic of being scammed. I was kind of like, why do I like this? And then I was like, what if I just send him pictures, just like, for no reason? And then I was like, what if I start paying him? Okay, now we're taking this step too far. I was with you before. I don't wanna be this way.

• 23:36Laci Mosley?

  You gotta be on the opposite side of it. I didn't know this, but before my podcast and, you know, book and television show took off. I, scam goddess had a completely different meaning.

• 23:47Laci Mosley?

  I kind of repurposed it and had no idea that scam goddesses are people who cause I was getting confused. I would be on Twitter or whatever and men would start getting my comments and they're like, I'll be your pay piggy. Like, you can, you know, yell at me or do whatever and I'll just send you money. And so then I started Googling scam goddess and the origination of it and it is scamming men who want to be scammed. So you could get involved that way. I know. I have this friend who reached, this was years ago. He, I hadn't heard from him in years and then he reached out to me and he was like, hey, can I talk to you about something? Which I feel like my whole life, people always tell me like the deepest, darkest things that have ever happened to them, like random people.

• 24:32Laci Mosley?

  I have like an open face. So I was like, oh, that's why he's telling me. So I was like, sure, what's going on? And he was like, I have this problem, like I'm into FND, financial domination. I'm like losing, he was like, I've gone like bankrupt so many times and he's telling me all this stuff and I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry. But then at one moment I was like, is he asking me to do it? Like, why is he telling me about this? Like, did you just get paid and as soon as that money hit your account? And I didn't do it because I actually like cared about him and he was like, it's ruining my life. But I was like, your ass is jerking off right now, probably. Waiting for me to turn, to flip it.

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  Also, was he trying to get a freebie where he's like, I've been giving away all my money and I'm going bankrupt? And now you're listening and being like, oh no. And he's over there just wanking it like, ah, she's, she understands.

• 25:30Laci Mosley?

  She knows I'm a little bitch boy.

• 25:33Laci Mosley?

  Why are you giving me this information? I think he wants me to be like, you're a little bitch, give me your money now. Yeah, like if you're giving it to everybody else, you're giving it out. Run it, run it to me, you little bitch, you little bank bitch boy.

• 25:46Laci Mosley?

  Okay, you've done this before. You little bank bitch boy.

• 25:55Laci Mosley?

  I don't even want your money. It's not even enough for me. But send it right now. Like, I feel like I could get involved. Yes. But, okay, so you, there's an error that's happening where things are happening around you. I have, that happens to me too, where scams are constantly finding me. So I get you. I get that. There's also on Venmo Daddy Michael. I don't know if you've ever experienced this guy. He comments on every Venmo interaction that I have. He's like, hello, my name is Daddy Michael. I'm a God fearing man and like, I'm not playing around. I want to be your paid daddy. And my friend and I texted him, but then he didn't really, he didn't continue the conversation. Okay, but why you double up on him? That might be why he got, he said he loved God.

• 26:40Laci Mosley?

  Comments, true. And I thought he would feel blessed.

• 26:46Laci Mosley?

  I think he was sharing his vulnerability with you. And you was like, let me get my friend involved. We both gonna run it up on him. No, Daddy Michael just wanted you. He said, I want one child. He didn't want.

• 26:57Laci Mosley?

  And come to think of it, there's probably a lot of like really God fearing Christian people who don't even realize that they like a, like a financial domination situation. Because think about prosperity gospel and how we've had pastors lock the doors of the church and be like, you gotta give more money. Like, if you wanna sow seed, give me three thousand dollars. If you wanna get this, give me a thou- is that a kink that we didn't realize? It's like the classiest way to do that kink.

• 27:26Laci Mosley?

  My pastor's yelling at me and calling me broke, but it, now I have an audience too. Yeah, that's a kink.

• 27:35Laci Mosley?

  I'm not saying everyone's doing it for that reason. There are a lot of people who give to churches because they wanna support their communities. I'm talking about those mega churches where it is so apparent that this pastor is pimping the congregation that I'm like, y'all gotta like this a little bit.

• 27:50Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, Edie, I feel like, I feel like we shouldn't have met under these circumstances because I'm like, let me give you my number, girl, cuz I feel like we got plans.

• 28:04Laci Mosley?

  I feel like we are a little too locked in. I think so too. They can't let us get in cahoots. No. They can't let us get in cahoots, cahoots.

• 28:16Speaker 05

  Had to Photoshop my shit a little bit. Um, I had my fans run my Wiki feed up, but my, my feet look like what I've been through. You know what I mean? They look like I was walking to school barefoot in the snow every day. It was like, what's going on? That bitch dancing on glass? Like, I'm gonna have to get mine. They're like, why her feet got a BBL?

• 28:39Speaker 05

  But I feel like we could do it. Now, did this end with the man just ghosting with the feet? Like?

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 28:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 28:47Laci Mosley?

  I got mad at him and I just, I said, fuck you.

• 28:51Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:51Laci Mosley?

  Or something. And then I was like, I blocked him.

• 28:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. I don't like that he tried to make your feet stock acts. I really do think he flipping the foot.

• 29:00Laci Mosley?

  And he has some incriminating images, is what I'll say. Bad.

• 29:05Speaker 05

  I think he flipping that foot and making bread. And that's upsetting to me and my homegirls.

• 29:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 29:11Speaker 05

  But, okay.

• 29:13Speaker 04

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• 30:24Laci Mosley?

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• 31:17Laci Mosley?

  Speaking of people flipping things and tricking people, our historic hoodwink today, this is a portion of the show where I will regale Edie with the famous con caper group of criminals, we'll get her opinions all throughout. And today, we're actually talking about a flipper. So there's a serial scalper that has been reselling dinner reservations at high-end sushi bars like Yoshino at extreme upcharges. Finding him unearthed a network of Michelin star restaurant reservation scalping that was happening across New York City. And listen, in this season, you don't want to get got. It's just some food for thought. So have you ever been to like a Michelin star restaurant? I'm sure you have. I have.

• 32:01Laci Mosley?

  The Emmys know about you. I know when you was in the Hollywood Reporter, I know you eating at everybody's stores, okay? I know that white tire man, hate to see you coming.

• 32:10Laci Mosley?

  Now, were you ever making these reservations yourself, or were they kind of coming through like companies or invitations? Okay, I'm not like that. I'm not like that. Honestly, I was a waitress at a pretty fancy restaurant. So that's usually my friend who owned the restaurant would get me reservations. Same, same. I've done that before. And my dad works in Steak houses in the city. So that's, he's a waiter. So you locked in. In that world. And that kind of waiter, like, they make bank. They make bank. Like, people don't understand, there's levels to this waiter shit, okay? Steakhouse, it's crazy, but I do, he's gotta get out. He gotta get out, he's too old. But, he's making money. Yeah, I mean, if it's his passion and he's good at it.

• 32:54Laci Mosley?

  If it's his passion, you think it's his passion?

• 32:58Laci Mosley?

  For some people it is. That's why they start giving themselves new names. Like, bitch, I'm, I'm not a bartender, I'm a sommelier, hoe. I went to school for this. What you mean? I'm not head bar back, I'm, I'm running F and D around this hoe, okay? There are some people, it is their passion, the circus side. No, he loves, he loves the restaurant world. It wasn't my passion though, so I can understand where you're coming from, but I did it for many years. And so, this, like, so Yoshino is a ten-seat Michelin-star sushi bar on Bowery that opened in twenty twenty-one. It's a big event to get a seat there. And now that I'm looking at this, I've been to a place like this in Los Angeles.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  I don't even remember the name. I just went with Miranda Cosgrove and her mama.

• 33:46Laci Mosley?

  And it was just like this. Ooh, I know they was eating good.

• 33:52Laci Mosley?

  Like, yeah, it's the kind of place you gotta be like, oh, yeah, I'm with, uh, you know, child television royalty, right? Okay, I'm with Netflix royalty. She gets that reservation. If I call, I can try to be like, hey, y'all, have y'all heard of Scam God?

• 34:08Laci Mosley?

  And they probably be like, bitch, no, and hang up. I don't think I'm getting to the next sentence. So this makes sense that people would try to find another way to get into these high-end restaurants if they don't have the clout or the power. But these are people fine. Finding the scalper like they're the scammers themselves. Oh, I would find the scalper. I absolutely am kind of down for this if they're not stealing the reservation like if I actually get it. So, you know, we're talking about Yoshino, right? And it's this it's it looks very fancy. It also looks just very expensive. They're only gonna do maybe twenty covers a night, maybe three sittings, maybe they get thirty people in that bitch. So you know it's expensive. Wild.

• 34:50Laci Mosley?

  Although I do like this better. You know, there's a lot of expensive restaurants where it's like huge, it's like the size of a cheese cake factory. I'm like, don't charge me a bunch of money for this. In the restaurant where there's ten people, I'm like, okay, y'all gotta make y'all money. So how much is the ice cubes again?

• 35:05Laci Mosley?

  Yes, it's exclusive. It's very plain in there. But you know, that's like rich, where where rich people have pivoted to. Yeah, clean, the clean girl aesthetic. Cause they're always running from brokeies. So once brokeies start to have access to things, then rich people are like, oh, we don't do that anymore. Like, rich people used to be labeled down. They used to wear the Gucci belt. They used to have all the emblems on. And then as soon as rappers got a hold of that, they were like, ugh, no, we wear eight hundred dollar white tees. Get away from us, you poor. I hate that. I love, if something says Prada, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, put it on my body. I love fake Gucci Chinatown bags. Some Gucci can hit sometimes, you know. I love it. Some goose eye.

• 35:50Laci Mosley?

  And it's like more unique than the pieces that they're slanging, especially when it comes to Gucci, because I consider that, damn, I'm gonna reveal myself as a snob. But I consider that brand to be a bit more pedestrian, because it's easier to access. Pedestrian, yes. But at the same time, haven't I just did what I said, that I just condemned the rich people for doing? I'm like, ugh, everybody can get it. I don't want it anymore. It's nasty now. I'm not like that. I'm not like that either, even though I kind of did say I was like that just a little bit, but. I love Coach. Coach is killing the game, though. Like, their designs. Find cheap Coach, too. And their leather is one of the highest qualities. You know, I went on a TikTok rabbit hole about that. There was this leather artist who like breaks down

• 36:32Laci Mosley?

  like Hermes bags, all these really expensive leather bags. He cuts them apart. He like checks them for everything. And Coach ranks high up there in like quality of leather. In quality of leather. I'm gonna stop talking cuz I'm revealing myself too much. You're trying to expose me. So back to the story cuz anyways. A reservation gets you two and a half hour, twenty one course preset menu. The Hinoki counter was sourced from three hundred year old tree and the chairs were handmade.

• 37:09Speaker 04

  What wasn't? What wood wasn't?

• 37:11Laci Mosley?

  That's a good point. Damn.

• 37:14Speaker 04

  That's where they're trying to get you.

• 37:17Laci Mosley?

  I was about to think that was fancy. A really old one. So wood?

• 37:22Speaker 04

  Sounds like it's old. It's old wood.

• 37:24Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, but we don't do that new money wood. We only do old money wood. What? Get out of here.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  And the chairs were handmade. Kay?

• 37:33Laci Mosley?

  Kay, as chairs are typically, right? But they said that it comes from Japan and that the knives are crafted by a, God, these words are beating my ass. A prefecture in Japan. So these are like fukinawa knives. These are the best knives ever. And you know what I think when I eat food? Damn, a good knife cut this. I can tell. Said no one. But okay, according to sushi legend dot com, stepping into Yoshino, there's a feeling in the air. If you were lucky enough to attend Hamilton in New York on its first run or like a big boxing or MMA match during sports respective, you know, seasons.

• 38:18Laci Mosley?

  Like this is like going to the Super Bowl of eating.

• 38:23Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 38:24Laci Mosley?

  I know. I feel the same way. It's just because they won't let you in that you're like, there's an air about this place. Look at all this old wood. This wood ain't young. Like, like, come on now. So this began like, kind of like, it wasn't Yoshino that started this, but they contributed to these reservation wars. So Talk is one of the many platforms competing for business in the reservation wars. And some restaurants use the old reliables like Open Tables, or they use Seven Rooms, which is independently owned and funded by celebrity chefs like Jose Andres. And some just use Yelp, if you're, you know, Yelp. The Ross Dress for Less of reservation apps.

• 39:09Laci Mosley?

  Everybody's on Yelp. So Resi is also, you know, like a fake bougie one. So Resi and Talk are now the new bougier. Never heard of Talk. Never heard of Talk, so. Why are they making new ones? Because that's how you stay relevant. Yeah. Once people start to hear about it, then remember, we gotta run away. The pores know about it. Right, oh, you're not on Talk? You've not heard of Talk? And I'm like, you mean TikTok? And they're like, oh darling. No, no, no, no, no, no. So Resi and Talk are the new hot reservation, like, and they're like, both owned by American Express. And Resi, which kind of gives to me, like, you know how Procter and Gamble owns a lot of competing brands?

• 39:54Laci Mosley?

  So your Gain and your Tide may be competing soap brands, but they're owned by the same company. So American Express is doing that, where like, if you think Resi is too pedestrian, don't worry, we have Talk now. It's even bougier. Don't, don't look at who owns it, don't look at who owns it.

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  So Talk got like more expensive reservations because people were using prepaid bookings and dynamic pricing. So the powder the restaurant, you would have to pay in advance to get the reservation. And this has now just become a thing. So people, you know, will be like, oh, I'll make a Resi, which I've heard people say that, especially in New York. But now that word is just like how Kleenex is. Like, you don't say, oh, can I have a nose tissue? You say, can I have a Kleenex? So they have the brand now. I mean, you couldn't pay me to say.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  Should I make a resi?

• 40:47Laci Mosley?

  I'm saying it. But it was just.

• 40:52Laci Mosley?

  On the app.

• 40:54Speaker 04

  I'll be making a reservation on resi.

• 40:58Laci Mosley?

  Okay, okay, cuz you're a woman of the people, okay. So to get a reservation at Yoshinu, you have to book on the talk platform and pay a five hundred dollar per person deposit.

• 41:13Speaker 04

  That you get back?

• 41:14Laci Mosley?

  The actual meal, including tax and tip, but not drinks, costs six hundred forty six dollars per person. And reservations become available thirty days in advance at noon eastern time. You know what hurts me about this? I'm so tired of things that used to be free becoming money. It's crazy. This hurts me so much because of the fact that everyone's like, how can we make pay, everyone pay for everything all the time?

• 41:50Speaker 04

  For going on the website, you're paying.

• 41:53Laci Mosley?

  Like, I was gonna go to the restaurant and pay anyway, and I was gonna tip. And I was gonna pay this inflated cost of this food, but you're gonna make me pay five hundred dollars before I even see the inside of this old ass wood?

• 42:05Speaker 04

  But you, you get the deposit back. It's just a deposit to make sure you go?

• 42:11Laci Mosley?

  Technically, it's like, it goes towards your meal.

• 42:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 42:16Laci Mosley?

  Except for drinks. So it just goes towards.

• 42:20Speaker 04

  They make it confusing, too.

• 42:22Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and like, I, the confusion is what's getting me out of the scam because it's like, how much is going towards my meal and how much of this is me paying for the exclusivity to go to this place? And then paying even more on top of that.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  Six hundred and seventy six dollars?

• 42:37Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  For sushi?

• 42:39Laci Mosley?

  Six forty-six, yeah, for sushi. And that's not alcohol. We ain't even got to the Yamazaki yet. We ain't even got nothin', okay? Shit, we don't got a soda water on the bill yet. And that's six forty-six per person, off rip.

• 42:56Laci Mosley?

  So, and you gotta wait, and you gotta beg.

• 42:59Speaker 04

  And you're never gonna be hungry.

• 43:01Laci Mosley?

  Look, they gonna give you a tiny little bite, but they gonna give you twenty-one bites. That better be enough. And probably a little-

• 43:08Speaker 04

  Go to Two Bros after.

• 43:10Laci Mosley?

  Right, yeah, this is like a pregame. Definitely a pregame meal place, or this is like a model meal place, you know, where the girlies don't really eat.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  I worked at a really expensive, like fancy restaurant in the city, and one of the menu items, the menu was always changing, and one of the items was a scallop, one scallop. And it was twenty-five dollars. And people would order, I mean, I would be like, it's the best scallop you're ever gonna eat.

• 43:42Laci Mosley?

  You'll die thinking about the scallop, this one scallop.

• 43:45Speaker 04

  But it was funny, the different kinds of, like, there would be people who would come in, who would be like, I'll have the scallops. And I'd be like, so, it is one.

• 43:55Laci Mosley?

  One.

• 43:56Speaker 04

  And some people would be like, oh, okay, I'll have two, like, not even caring, and other people were like, thank you, you know?

• 44:03Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for telling us.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 44:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 44:05Speaker 04

  And I tried bringing it up in like a staff meeting, and they were kind of like poo-pooing me for even caring about it, you know? But I was like, we gotta tell these people, it's one fucking scallop.

• 44:17Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, though, I understand the poo-poo, and here's why. I used to be like that.

• 44:22Speaker 04

  You're different.

• 44:22Laci Mosley?

  No, I used to be like that in these restaurants. Until people would start ordering things like, you know, like a Yamazaki twenty-one, that's three hundred dollars a glass, and it's only an ounce and a half pour. And I'd be like, okay, just so you know, it's a three hundred dollar pour, and they would look at me and get mad at me, like, why you think I'm poor? Why you think I don't have it?

• 44:40Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:42Laci Mosley?

  I'm just letting you know, but you're right.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  If it were me- I would like to know that.

• 44:49Laci Mosley?

  But the whole aesthetic too is also supposed to be the assumption that you're so rich that these prices won't shock you.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Well, then I should work there.

• 44:59Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I think there's a way to sneak it. You can be like, it's a beautiful one scallop and it's got this and that on it.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  It's a beautiful, and it's one.

• 45:07Laci Mosley?

  No, but you gotta say it is all one thing. It's a beautiful one scallop. Yeah, you can't be like, it's beautiful and also just say no, it's one.

• 45:14Speaker 04

  Single scallop.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, because if you-

• 45:16Speaker 04

  Single scallop dish.

• 45:17Laci Mosley?

  Oh, now we're hitting.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  With peas.

• 45:20Laci Mosley?

  Now the rich people love it. Now the super rich people love it and then the people who might be a little bit more reasonable about their money, rightfully so, they know it's a single scallop.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 45:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, okay, I know we just gave tips. That was a tip.

• 45:32Speaker 04

  I just wanna relate to everyone. Like, when people come into the restaurant, I like being like, I know it's fucking crazy, but, you know?

• 45:42Laci Mosley?

  See, I'm more of a like, in-between. Cause one thing I don't enjoy is going into a high-end place and this happens a lot to me as a black woman. I'll go into a very expensive place and if you can't clock my jewelry, if you can't clock what I got on, you may not know I can afford it. Cause you're gonna think I'm poor because I'm black. I don't know where this assumption always has come from, but you know, that's, that's the economic goal of white people is to keep us poor. So if they see us not being poor, they'll be like, how you get in here?

• 46:06Laci Mosley?

  We gotta stop this. So I've gone in places and the people who work there are being all highfalutin and snooty and bougie to me and I'm like, bitch, you work here, I shop here.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  I'm here. Yes.

• 46:18Laci Mosley?

  So why you treating me like I'm a slave? But I know that reverse psychology works on certain people and they'll be like, I gotta prove to you that I got money. If you treat me like that, I will walk my bitch ass up out of there. Cause I'm not giving you no fucking commission and on my way out, I'm gonna tell everybody what you did. And then I'm gonna come back in like, I'm so pretty woman. I'll come back in, big mistake, huge. And I'll fill me and put it on TikTok, you raggedy bitch.

• 46:44Speaker 04

  You're talking to me. I'm like, it's one scallop, girl.

• 46:48Laci Mosley?

  No, that wouldn't offend me. The people who come in and they look down at me like,

• 46:53Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 46:54Laci Mosley?

  Sweetheart, like, you know, or they don't even speak to me or greet me when I come into the store because they're like, oh, she couldn't possibly.

• 47:00Speaker 04

  What are you even doing here?

• 47:01Laci Mosley?

  Right. Yeah, fuck you.

• 47:04Speaker 04

  I'm gonna buy a thousand dollar pants that I don't even want, actually.

• 47:07Laci Mosley?

  But I would only do that if I knew how they return work. I would buy a bunch of shit and then just return it so you could lose your commission. I let you have a commission just long enough to think you own it and then I'll come back in the return period. So fuck you. That's how petty I am. Don't play with me.

• 47:22Laci Mosley?

  And I'll make sure I come in on your day off so you could be surprised.

• 47:28Laci Mosley?

  I'm small. I'm sorry. But so I understand what you're saying and I'm completely with you because this shit is ridiculous, especially when you think of the evaluation of what things cost. Like, it's stupid.

• 47:38Speaker 04

  It's crazy.

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• 50:11Laci Mosley?

  So in early 2023, the general manager there, he got a tip from a regular customer that it was becoming impossible to get a seat at the restaurant. Reservations were being scooped up and resold in a close group on a Chinese social network e-commerce site called Red Node or Little Red Book. So somebody was using the name when Winter's Wang and other aliases to sell reservations for an additional $180 per seat. So they were going to get the reservation with the 500 deposit, right? Then they were taking that reservation to another website and flipping it into 680, right?

• 50:51Laci Mosley?

  Then you still gotta go to the restaurant and pay that 146 and that's not drinks included. So somebody else has figured out a way to get in on this.

• 51:02Speaker 00

  Genius.

• 51:03Laci Mosley?

  Right?

• 51:04Speaker 00

  It's genius.

• 51:06Laci Mosley?

  I mean, it hurts me though, because it makes me think about your foot flipper and how he was flipping the pics. I told you I liked it. You did say you liked it. You did say you liked it, but I didn't like that you weren't getting your cut at a tone no more. So, Mayumi, um, the, the restaurant manager, they wrote to TikTok, or excuse me, Sam, call it TikTok. They wrote to Toc and they alerted them of the scalping that was happening. And she also got screenshots from the scalping website, revealing the methods that they were using to scalp these seats at famous New York restaurants. But how are people finding out? People are seeking out the scalping website. Yes. Okay.

• 51:46Laci Mosley?

  And so, regulars who perhaps were able to call before, because once you have a rapport with a restaurant, you don't have to use those apps anymore. They know you're, you know what we used to call them, like, swagnes. So, if I got like a chit from the hostess that said like a very important, like, swagne is coming in. That means that this is somebody who spends a lot of money with us. There might be things on the chit about their allergies, their preferences. Lionel Richie used to come into our restaurant all the time and he isn't great with chopsticks. And he's like, you know, I'm from Alabama, baby. And so, it got to the point where if I knew when he was coming into the restaurant, I would already have the chopsticks on the little kid thingies for him. Totally.

• 52:28Laci Mosley?

  The little clippers. Like, I would have his drink order ready, because like, he, you know. So, the swagnes were starting to be like, hey, I just usually call y'all. And every time I try to call y'all, now y'all booked up. What's going on? And so, that's when she had the inkling to see if there was someone else taking the reservations. Because they know what reservations they're getting from what websites. And then also, if you think about it, if I were to purchase the reservation under a fake name on Toc, the real Amex website, right? And then I go resell it, I probably have to change the name on the reservation. Or somebody or a bunch of different looking people keep coming in as Mr. Wang.

• 53:08Laci Mosley?

  Like, what if I showed them, I was like, hey, Lacey, party of, or I'm like, yeah, it should be under, um, Mr. Wang, party of two. They're gonna be looking at my black ass like, who? I'm like, no, no, no, y'all know who I'm talking about.

• 53:20Speaker 04

  Mr. Wang.

• 53:22Laci Mosley?

  I got a very, uh, complicated family, okay? We got, I'm adopted. Like, people are just coming in with the same person's name, or they're having to change the name. So it makes sense that they got this evidence, and so now they're trying to stop what was going on. So wrapping this up. Winter's Wang, which is the fake name, who's also me, I'm now Winter's Wang. A proud Asian woman, as I've always been.

• 53:49Laci Mosley?

  They, this person isn't the first or the last dinner reservation scalper. In 2023, appointmenttrader.com sold for almost $6 million in restaurant. They sold almost $6 million in restaurant reservations.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 54:07Laci Mosley?

  Apart, appointmenttrader.com. Why have I not thought of these things? So these ta, these table scalpers, now they have a name, they slang a table. They're like, I got that table, I got that table. Could you imagine going to a fancy restaurant and then there's somebody standing outside like in a trench coat, like?

• 54:24Speaker 04

  Table.

• 54:24Laci Mosley?

  Table.

• 54:25Speaker 04

  Table.

• 54:26Laci Mosley?

  Party of three, I got a party of three. I got a party of three at eight. What you want for it, what you want for it? I hate, I hate America.

• 54:35Speaker 04

  You know what's a good hack at the fancy place I worked at? You can go in person. And make a reservation for the future, anytime in the future. Just do it in person.

• 54:47Laci Mosley?

  And sometimes they'll have somebody drop out and randomly you'll get lucky and they have something that night. If not, they'll give you something later. Yeah, that's a hack for sure. Or if I'm on PR, now this is really gonna make me sound away, but it's not my fault. Sometimes I will hit up my publicists and be like, can you get me into this restaurant?

• 55:05Speaker 04

  Do you live in New York or LA?

• 55:06Laci Mosley?

  I live in LA.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 55:08Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Where are you, are you still in New York or where you at?

• 55:11Speaker 04

  I live in New York.

• 55:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yes, you still got the energy and the spirit, so I figured this much. So yeah. They got all types of websites and people who are doing this, but now they got a hashtag that's going on. The hashtag is like a group of finance bros. They started using this hashtag in 2022 called hashtag free resi for a group chat based out of the encrypted messaging platform Telegram. And they got busted. So they ain't got on Telegram, and these are fat bros. They're gonna find a way to rob us all. Like, what, like, what is the fight? What's the stock market? What do they add to the world?

• 55:48Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 55:49Laci Mosley?

  No one does. It's theft. It's a casino. Ain't nobody ever been like, a Wall Street bro built my home. No, it's more likely they bought your home and outpriced your neighborhood.

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 56:01Laci Mosley?

  All they do is destroy. So of course, they started doing Telegram and having their own sketchy ass resi as well. Not shocked, right? So, most of these reservations that they were using on this like secret app, because this is another one, this is the Telegram one, hashtag free resi. These reservations fell between seven and nine P M. And they targeted in-demand tables at Michelin-starred restaurants like Le Bardin and, you know, TikTok's favorite St. Theo's. So they're going for the ones that are really popular. There were 700 people in the group when it was shut down, including band members from the Chain Smokers and Lost King.

• 56:40Speaker 04

  Wow, I will never listen to them again.

• 56:43Laci Mosley?

  Now, listen, when's the last time you been in a Walgreens? That's the only time we hear the Chain Smokers. Ain't nobody at a party like, put on them Chain Smokers.

• 56:54Laci Mosley?

  What was their song?

• 56:54Speaker 04

  This is crazy. I couldn't, I don't even know.

• 56:57Laci Mosley?

  I couldn't tell you. It's like one of them, everybody talks babe, type songs.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  You know if it came on. Be singing it every

• 57:05Laci Mosley?

  Oh, for sure, because we've heard it everywhere that we went, okay? You're not gonna hear a commercial for a bank without the change. You know, it's out there.

• 57:15Speaker 04

  This is crazy.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  It's funny to me that they couldn't get reservations, so they were also in there. Many restaurants were still, like in 2022, requiring you to show a vaccination card when you showed up to dine, right? And maître d's noticed that the reservation name and the vaccine card were different. So remember when I brought up earlier that I was Ms. Wang? Everybody can't be Ms. Wang, especially if your vaccination card is not the same. So Resi deleted people's accounts. So they, so there were people who created the Telegram, right? Our finance bros. Their names were Cole, Sal, and Steve. I don't really need to give them too much credit. That's all we need to know about them. But Resi was like, y'all gotta go, bitches. So deleted all of their accounts that they were using to get these reservations, including ones that they use for themselves personally.

• 58:01Laci Mosley?

  So now they can't even use Resi no more. They got kicked off. They banned. Getting banned from a

• 58:08Speaker 04

  Reservation website.

• 58:10Laci Mosley?

  Like, can we all be so serious and for real? And I'm gonna wrap it up with something that is like a little bit of a pivot. But before I do, I do wanna let you know that Steve and Cole had commented when they got deleted from Resi, right? So Steve said, there's always going to be drawbacks when you disrupt something. Of course, you could call the disruption.

• 58:36Speaker 04

  Loser.

• 58:37Laci Mosley?

  Loser.

• 58:38Speaker 04

  You got caught, so actually, you're a loser.

• 58:41Laci Mosley?

  Also, what do you mean disrupt? Like, the word is such a weird, douchey term that if, I'm sorry, ladies, gentlemen, they's and thems. If you were ever on a date with somebody and they tell you they're a disruptor, you better run your ass up out of there, okay? Because what do you mean?

• 58:57Speaker 04

  They're not disrupting a rally, a far-right rally. You're disrupting a reservation website?

• 59:04Laci Mosley?

  Like by disrupting, all you're doing is making the prices more expensive. Like Uber called themselves disruptors when they first started. What Uber did was they got a fuck-ton of VC capitalists to invest in the company so that they could operate at a loss long enough to outprice everybody else. So it was like they were so cheap that all these other companies went out of business. The cab drivers started killing themselves in New York, like it was real shit. Cause cab drivers had like medallions and those things were like a million dollars to own your cab. And like I felt bad for them, but I also didn't feel bad cause I've been hit by too many cabs in, in, uh, New York City. And when I say clipped, like clipped, like I opened the door and I'm leaving my job. It's like four AM. I'm like, hey, I gotta go to Brooklyn. And like, I'm not going to Brooklyn. And they drive off, door's still open. I'm like, ah!

• 59:48Laci Mosley?

  Y'all should've been nicer to me, you raggedy bitches.

• 59:54Laci Mosley?

  But like, that's what disrupting is. It's like subjugating the market and then making yourselves a monopoly to where now Uber's like, who else you gonna get a ride with? It's us or a DUI, ho. So do you want to pay a hundred and eighty-three dollars to go four blocks up this road? Home? Or would you like to be in jail or worse?

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Do you know about Empower? Do you guys have Empower here?

• 1:00:17Laci Mosley?

  No, but I want it. Now what is it? I need to get out of this hole that Uber got on me.

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  It's, it empowers the driver, so they make more money apparently. Or they get like a bigger cut of whatever the ride is. But it's not like regulated by anyone. So sometimes you'll get one guy that's like maybe fucked up or... It's not the best, but it's cheap. It's cheap also.

• 1:00:40Laci Mosley?

  So sometimes it might be risks that we need to take. And for what, for what the drivers get on Uber, if I have a driver who's like nice and sane, typically I do this with women or like black cars that I know like are very expensive. If I really fuck with them, I'll be like, hey, what's your phone number? Cause they'll offer to, they'll have business cards. And then I-

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  You can pick me up.

• 1:01:00Laci Mosley?

  Again, actually. Drive me around the city cuz now we both getting our money's worth. Yeah, so but I hate that we have to do that. And also, I hate the risk involved in that because now I really am just getting in a car with a stranger with no accountability for what happens to me because there's no app tracking it. Even though Uber doesn't allow, once you sign up for Uber, they don't allow you to do like public court. Like if you want to sue, you have to do private arbitration. Really? Yes. And what that does is it shields Uber from the responsibility of the public knowing what's happened in certain cars or or even statistics on, you know, assault or or the driver being intoxicated or whatever the case. But I have a sneaking scam suspicion because every now and then Uber will send out an email that's like, if you drive a truck, let us know. And I'm like,

• 1:01:45Laci Mosley?

  what? This is the last thing I should be getting from the taxi service. Was your driver smoking crack? Call Uber support. You can tell us. It's not happening, but we just want to make sure they not smoking crack in Uber. That's all. Don't worry about why we asking.

• 1:02:03Laci Mosley?

  I'm a little confused. But so the DMV is also having a scalping issue. And this wraps up our episode. Um, I just wanted to briefly touch on the fact that some states have passed legislation attempting to stop this kind of reservation scalping into dismantle third-party reservation services like Appointment Trader. So Appointment Trader wasn't just doing restaurant appointment trading. They were, they're big on the scene. They said anywhere. They say you need a DMV appointment. You don't want to wait. Appointment Trader. Could you imagine a scalper at the DMV pulling that little deli ticket and just like rolling it out? Taking all the spots?

• 1:02:42Laci Mosley?

  It's wild. But New York was the first to, shout out to Mom Donnie Stan, New York was the first to pass the Restaraunt Reservation Anti-Piracy Act, which bans third parties from selling restaurant reservations without the restaurant's consent. The law went into effect mid-February and California is working on the same thing. Wasting our time. We, there are other issues we need to be working on. Why is there a legislator? Act. We gotta make an act. Right. We need healthcare. Why, why are y'all bothering my legislators with? With DMV piracy? Reservation Act.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Oh my god, that's crazy. I feel like I took a class. This was so informative and amazing.

• 1:03:24Laci Mosley?

  Thank you. And you know, I'm hoping that people can get what they deserve. In Florida, the DMV scalpers led to people waiting in line overnight to renew their driver's licenses. That's how bad it got because they couldn't afford to scalp their way into the DMV. And the scalpers have been selling these appointments from $25 to $250 to go to the DMV, to pay the DMV money so that you can drive. Otherwise, you gotta sleep outside like you trying to get concert tickets in the 80s.

• 1:03:53Speaker 04

  I don't understand how that was happening there.

• 1:03:56Laci Mosley?

  Because, I mean, it's Florida. It's the wild, wild west. But it's been happening in Florida, New York, California, major cities where I think DMV appointments are even harder to get because our populations are so dense. And everybody's going at the same time, you know, either before work or after. This is why I love being an actor because I can go random times of the day sometimes, which is a blessing. But yeah, victims like victims in Miami have filed a class action lawsuit against the Florida Department of Highway Safety and motor vehicles.

• 1:04:27Laci Mosley?

  Since scalping DMV appointments is technically, obviously, illegal. But I can't imagine having to make a class action lawsuit because I need to go to the worst government place on earth. Like if Disneyland is the best place on earth, the DMV is the worst.

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  You know, I just had a really good experience at the DMV. I got a real ID. We're laughing. I'm laughing with the lady at the counter, laughing with the camera lady. Everyone was in good spirits.

• 1:04:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's what I like to see. And that does bring us to the end of what has been such a fun ride. Edie, thank you so much for being here. We always ask, where do people want to be found? Anywhere that we can see you, anywhere we can, obviously, your special coming up, all of that, all of that.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Social. Instagram, I'm Duty Hole on Instagram.

• 1:05:16Laci Mosley?

  No, you're not. And I am. D O O D I E. Hole.

• 1:05:23Laci Mosley?

  Beautiful, beautiful. And then your special comes out in September, correct? Yes, on YouTube. On YouTube? Please watch it. What date is that coming out? September 17th. September 17th, y'all lock in, get on the socials, follow ED. You know she's amazing. I don't know, buy her foot. If she's still selling, I don't know if she's selling her foot no more. She's big time, y'all. Well, it's going up. It goes up. The price goes up. Yesterday's price, not today's price. Period. Yes, as always, y'all can find us at D I V A L A C I, Diva Lacy, that's me. If you want to see the photos from this episode, Scam Goddess Pod on all the platforms. And if you want to write into the show, because y'all, every now and then, I'm going to be pulling back up listener letters. So y'all need to give me some fresh stuff.

• 1:06:07Laci Mosley?

  [email protected]. If you want to snitch on your friends, your family, or your enemies. Get involved. Watch my show on Hulu. Watch all the shows I got on Hulu. Get my book. Support a Black Woman. And y'all leave five stars. I want your book. I'll send it to you. And if y'all, if y'all want to support a Black woman and, and times is tight, money is hard. All you got to do is hit that five stars on Apple reviews and you have supported me, okay? That's where I'm going to make my fake reservation app. It's going to be like and subscribe. I'll be on the dark web as well. Buying them.

• 1:06:44Laci Mosley?

  All right, y'all, get out there and stay.

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