The Snack: Summer House Scandal, KitKat Heist, and Er*ka Kirk vs. Druski

Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we’re talking about: The HOT special guests we’ll have at our upcoming show Tiger Woods’ DUI KitKat Heist (and our favorite candy bars) Amanda and West from Summer House hard launch their relationship and break the internet Even MORE MomTok drama (with Chase at the center of it) Age of Attraction reunion and who’s still together Carole Radziwill and Love Story drama Headlines: Kristi Noem’s husband cross dressing, Laguna Beach reunion, Druski’s Erika Kirk spoof, and United’s lay-flat economy seats Follow us on Instagram @girlsgottaeatpodcast, Ashley @ashhess, and Rayna @rayna.greenberg. Visit https://girlsgottaeat.com for live show tickets and more. Thank you to our partners this week: FP Movement: Go to http://fpmovement.com to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear. Helix: Go to http://helixsleep.com/gge for 20% off sitewide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Rayna Greenberg?

  This week on the snack, Summer House drama, the Kit Kat heist and Erika Kirk versus Druski.

• 0:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  This is a Dear Media production.

• 0:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Enjoy.

• 0:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Hi, guys.

• 0:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Hi.

• 0:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  We didn't say hi last week at all.

• 0:14Rayna Greenberg?

  We went right into it.

• 0:15Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was looking at the edit. I was like, do we just not? We don't have to. Let us know if you guys care.

• 0:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, a few minutes ago, I asked you if my hair looked bad and you were like, I mean, I don't. It doesn't look clean.

• 0:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  You asked, you were like, what does my hair look like? Should I put it up? I was like, I mean, yeah, it does. It's not clean. It depends on what look you're going for. A few people commented on my hair last week and they were like, I love that look. I'm like, it's just so dirty. I had it back in like a low bun. Like it was just a dirty hair day.

• 0:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I like it pinned back like that. Mine is extra dirty. I was at so many airport shows. I've been in so many places in Texas.

• 0:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Airport hair.

• 0:55Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, we're back. I haven't seen you in a while.

• 0:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 0:57Rayna Greenberg?

  I've seen this more, it's like a week.

• 0:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  Has it been?

• 1:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's been a week. It's crazy.

• 1:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, let's get into it. We have so much today, you guys. Oh, my God, the tea is so hot.

• 1:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, hot as summer, some would say.

• 1:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  The hottest.

• 1:08Rayna Greenberg?

  The hottest summer tea. We are blessed. Stuff just comes out five minutes before we record. It's crazy. Well, let's just thank our partners and we'll get right into it, you guys. Thank you to FP Movement. Go to fpmovement.com to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear.

• 1:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  And thank you to Helix. Go to helixsleep.com/gge for 20% off sitewide. Okay, we just have a very quick announcement. So exciting. Speaking of hot, so our show here in LA on May 7th with the Netflix is a Joke Festival, the Palace Theater, we are so excited and we are announcing for the first time that we will have the Chippendales with us at the show. Girls Gotta Eat, Chippendales collab. We did this one other time in Vegas on their home turf and they came over and they performed for us when we kicked off our 2024 Snack City Tour.

• 1:57Rayna Greenberg?

  We call it now.

• 1:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  No crumbs. Oh, my God. We've just toured so much. No crumbs tour. Yes, and they are coming from Vegas. We will have the head Chippendale as seen on Mormon Wives.

• 2:09Rayna Greenberg?

  So excited.

• 2:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Our fave. We've like worked with him for years. He was at my bachelorette. So they are going to come. We have so much fun stuff planned. This is so exciting.

• 2:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I can't wait. And we, you know, we promise you guys will do something new, bigger, better, different all the time. And this is just, and we always love to have a little stripper action at our shows, but this is really so exciting. So come, it's a really fun, feel good night. It's wild and crazy. Bring your friends, bring your partners, your moms, whoever. And we'll see you there. Tickets are on sale at girlsgottaeat.com. And honestly, plan a whole weekend to come out to LA. It is such a fun festival. Everybody in comedy is performing and it is just such a fun time to be in LA, May, early May. And so come out, we hope to see you guys there.

• 2:47Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes. And come from all over, California, the West Coast. You have a month to plan at this point, over a month to plan. It's five weeks away from now. So Chippendales, Girls Got to Eat, Netflix Fest, what more could you want? Hottest show of the year.

• 3:01Rayna Greenberg?

  So we'll see you guys.

• 3:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  You heard it here first. Okay. Yes. girlsgottaeat.com. And we are going to kick it off with a vehicular crime report. This is a fun one. There's, wait till you see the correlation between the two.

• 3:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you going to tell me?

• 3:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  So Tiger Woods got a DUI. It's second DUI.

• 3:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I thought it's his third DUI, actually. Something happened in 2017 and also 2021.

• 3:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So he flipped his car. He's okay. No one was hurt. I gotta say, I feel like at this point, I expect to see the full body cam footage and we can compare it to Justin Timberlake's and see who's better. Like we are coming off another DUI. Like we were just getting over Justin Timberlake's DUI footage and then Tiger Woods gets another DUI. Like if he doesn't say this is going to ruin the PGA tour, I don't want it.

• 3:46Rayna Greenberg?

  I didn't know the body cam footage was so easy to come by. Like it's in Mormon wives, obviously like JT's came out. Like, why are we not seeing all body cam footage of all arrests?

• 3:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I mean, someone has to request it. Like we talked about, I don't know. And all these celebrities want to try to block it from coming out. I mean, I don't know. Is there, is there always body cam footage? I don't know all the ins and outs, but I mean, I don't know. This guy, what is he doing? He had pills in his pocket now. Like I have no tolerance for grown ass adults with money, celebrities. Why are you driving yourself? So I saw an article, he does, he's private. So you'd rather ruin. Your reputation, go to jail, get a DUI. What are you doing?

• 4:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Like, no one's making you call an Uber. I mean, Tiger Woods could have private drivers stationed at every home and city that he has forever.

• 4:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  First hire I would make.

• 4:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 4:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, we have drivers here and there and people we use repeatedly.

• 4:36Rayna Greenberg?

  We have drivers.

• 4:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  We're drivers all the time. I mean, I can't even imagine it.

• 4:41Rayna Greenberg?

  That is so funny. Like, we have people in some cities we can text to take us anywhere because we tour. That is so funny.

• 4:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  But to have a driver on the payroll is pay him a hundred grand a year, 150K a year. That's a drop in the bucket. Like, have a driver with you all the time. It's like, you work for me. This is your salaried career and you're my driver. Why would I ever drive again?

• 5:05Rayna Greenberg?

  I would never drive again. Never catch me behind a wheel ever again. I do like to drive.

• 5:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love to drive fast. I love to drive. But like, I mean, and I obviously don't drink and drive now, but it's with celebrities. I just, Brittany, well, Brittany, I don't know. And that might not be Brittany. I don't know. But she got a DUI recently. Like, DUIs are hot right now. I'm kidding. No, like, in the news. Like, that, this is like the third DUI headline in the month. Like, guys, we gotta pull it together.

• 5:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, DUIs are back.

• 5:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Stop, I'm gonna get all triggered up. I am so obviously anti-drinking and driving. You have so many other options.

• 5:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, you have every option. Your, Tiger Woods gotta be a billionaire?

• 5:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  It doesn't even matter.

• 5:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Doesn't matter. You make a couple million a year. You could have a full-time driver.

• 5:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I saw this meme that was like, how is he both the best driver and the worst driver?

• 5:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so I actually will say the craziest thing about this is me finding out who he's dating. Cause I didn't know. Did you know?

• 6:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, I didn't know.

• 6:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, well, drop the news.

• 6:01Ashley Hesseltine?

  Vanessa Trump? But who is that?

• 6:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Isn't that his granddaughter?

• 6:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  I thought Kai was his granddaughter.

• 6:07Rayna Greenberg?

  He has a bunch of grandkids. He's three kids.

• 6:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. If Donald Trump's grandchild wouldn't date Tiger Woods.

• 6:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Why?

• 6:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  Cause she's like 10?

• 6:15Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's what Donald Trump's all about. Have you read the Epstein files, actually?

• 6:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Who is Vanessa? No, Vanessa was married to like one of his kids. Donald Trump's former daughter-in-law. So she was, Kai is his granddaughter. Kai's been in the news too. I don't know who that is, but she's got something going on that's shady.

• 6:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Vanessa Trump is what Donald Trump Jr. Or Eric Trump's ex-wife, right?

• 6:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Vanessa Trump is Kai's mom.

• 6:45Rayna Greenberg?

  I know. She's Kai's mom. I just said that three times. Who's, who's ex is she?

• 6:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Donald Trump Jr.'s ex.

• 6:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Ugh, can you imagine?

• 6:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, Beavis and Butthead themselves are the most hideous people alive. I cannot believe people fuck them like.

• 7:00Rayna Greenberg?

  And Tiger Woods is all mixed up with that family too. Like whatever. It's just like, he is over, right? Like he's over. Tiger Woods is over.

• 7:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think Tiger Woods has been over. I think people just like, don't think this whole like cheating on your wife so flagrantly.

• 7:12Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, right. My God.

• 7:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And also I think I was wrong. I think 2017 is DUI and I think 2021 was just a serious crash. I'm unsure if it was drinking related or not.

• 7:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Take this man's license away.

• 7:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just like, get him away. Get him out of here.

• 7:24Rayna Greenberg?

  He should just be riding around in a golf cart. Keep it on brand.

• 7:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Make Kai drive you around.

• 7:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Who?

• 7:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Vanessa's daughter.

• 7:31Rayna Greenberg?

  She does have some golf something. I don't know. I don't care. Okay. So anyway. Lock him up at this point. Throw away the key. Get him a golf cart.

• 7:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. And so the next on the vehicular crime report is thieves steal 12 tons of Kit Kat bars in European chocolate heist. We have been chasing this rush ever since the Louvre heist, right before Easter.

• 7:53Rayna Greenberg?

  Could be worse timing for kids in Europe who wanted Kit Kats in their Easter baskets. At least it's not Halloween.

• 7:59Ashley Hesseltine?

  400,000 chocolate bars weighing 12 tons from a truck in Europe. This is like the town, I feel like.

• 8:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. But the thing that's so crazy to me is like, okay, all this takes planning, all robberies, no matter what you're going to steal, it takes planning. And they were like, let's plan this. And what they landed on was Kit Kats.

• 8:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, right. I have so many questions.

• 8:13Rayna Greenberg?

  And there's serial numbers allegedly attached to the Kit Kats.

• 8:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  These Kit Kat bars are hot.

• 8:18Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah. So like you can figure out which Kit Kats got stolen. You can just like sell them on the black market. Who are they selling them to?

• 8:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Thank you. So the quotes from the article are insane. So Kit Kat put out a statement, but they also gave quotes in the article. So we've always. Encourage people to have a break with Kit Kat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 tons of our chocolate.

• 8:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Like a metaphor.

• 8:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Said a spokesperson. While we appreciate the criminals' exceptional taste, the fact remains that cargo theft is an escalating issue for businesses of all sizes.

• 8:48Rayna Greenberg?

  They had like wanted to relate to the general public. They were like, this is about all of us collectively.

• 8:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  So I have some more things to share with you. So this is not the only massive chocolate heist to have taken place recently in Europe. So a British man was sentenced to 18 months in jail in July of 2023 for stealing 200,000 Cadbury Kremex.

• 9:02Rayna Greenberg?

  What? Who? I don't understand. Like, if you're gonna plan all this, why would you not steal something that's like, first of all, more expensive, second of all, less perishable? You're gonna steal something perishable?

• 9:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's perishable. That's what's so crazy. They're gonna expire. What would you, what truck would you heist? Sometimes I see that Casamigos truck and I was.

• 9:21Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, you want, you would do alcohol?

• 9:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  I don't know. I see the Casamigos truck and I'm like, hmm.

• 9:26Rayna Greenberg?

  Jewelry?

• 9:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Could we?

• 9:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Cause then like with the jewelry I sell, I could like buy all the Casamigos in the world.

• 9:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was thinking, I mean, Kit Kat, in terms of chocolate bars, it would be up there. I'm a Snickers ass bitch, but I love a Kit Kat. And then I was thinking, maybe jerky? I feel like jerky's having a moment right now and it's expensive.

• 9:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Like DUIs?

• 9:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Guys, don't eat jerky and drive. No, like a big Chomps truck.

• 9:48Rayna Greenberg?

  Chomps? You do love Chomps?

• 9:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  I love Chomps and Epic is the other brand. They're expensive.

• 9:52Rayna Greenberg?

  No, they are expensive. The smell.

• 9:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  For the good stuff.

• 9:54Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, but the smell would be absolutely disgusting. Like, if I was gonna park.

• 9:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I would resell them. I feel like jerky's really hot.

• 10:01Rayna Greenberg?

  Where did we go that there was an Nabisco factory and there was like a, the smell was so good? Or am I imagining this? That was in a movie?

• 10:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  That sounds amazing.

• 10:08Rayna Greenberg?

  Maybe it was in Pittsburgh and it actually happened in my hometown. Okay. Also, in, let's rank candy bars. My favorite is Kit Kat. My second favorite is Snickers. I'm not a big candy person in general. Like, I like Reese's minis. I don't want a whole Reese's.

• 10:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  You don't want a whole Reese cup?

• 10:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh-uh. I like the minis.

• 10:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 10:25Rayna Greenberg?

  I like all minis. I like a Hershey's bar with almonds in it.

• 10:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  So you walk into a gas station, what candy are you getting?

• 10:31Rayna Greenberg?

  Kit Kat number one.

• 10:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Kit Kat's your number one. Okay. I love peanut and peanut butter M&Ms.

• 10:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay.

• 10:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Regular M&Ms too small.

• 10:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Did you have them in your house growing up?

• 10:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, we didn't have this stuff in my house growing up and that's why it made me so obsessed with it. So my parents kept a pretty healthy household. We had snacks and stuff. It wasn't like sad for kids, you know, when we'd cereal and we had all the things, but not a ton of. Like Ho Ho's and all those like hostess pastries and stuff like that. And so I was obsessed with candy bars when I was a kid. My favorite candy bar was a Fifth Avenue. Do you remember that? It was similar to a Butterfinger. It was like kind of flaky and, but I love a peanut butter chocolate combo. But I really love M and M's, the bigger ones. And I love a Reese's cup and Snickers. I mean, Snickers is actually good for you. Like they say, eat a Snickers before you like go work out.

• 11:18Rayna Greenberg?

  What?

• 11:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, that was their whole thing. It's like that. They did a whole marketing campaign around that. It's like good for like workouts. It's like got a bunch of stuff in there you need protein, peanuts.

• 11:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. So I don't like the experience of eating Snickers as much. I like the experience of eating Kit Kat because it's a little too like gooey for me. So I like the minis, but Kit Kats, I like when the chocolate melts around your fingers and you get to suck the chocolate off your fingers.

• 11:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  You like to make it sexy.

• 11:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I like to make it naughty.

• 11:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So did you see statements from other brands?

• 11:43Rayna Greenberg?

  No, and I knew this was coming out. What, did Wendy's get in there? Like, I was really hoping all these other brands would get in there.

• 11:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just wanted to read you the statement.

• 11:49Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, thank you.

• 11:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Domino's.

• 11:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Uh huh.

• 11:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  We love Domino's. We would like to share our thoughts and condolences with Kit Kat following their recent sad news. On a completely unrelated note, we're pleased to announce we'll now be selling a new Kit Kat pizza.

• 12:00Rayna Greenberg?

  Strong. That would be me because I want to make everything about me. On a totally unrelated note about me.

• 12:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Denny's. These are all D, by the way, triple D's. We have three brands that start with D. Denny's official statement, we would like to make one thing clear. Whatever happened to those Kit Kats happened between 1:30 a.m. and 4 a.m. And we were very busy. No further questions. And the DoorDash. The third D.

• 12:23Rayna Greenberg?

  DoorDash never gets in there.

• 12:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right. Official statement, hey, guys, DoorDash here.

• 12:27Rayna Greenberg?

  DoorDash is 80 plus. Hey, it's dad.

• 12:32Ashley Hesseltine?

  Love dad. Hey, guys, DoorDash here. Due to a completely random packaging error, we have 12 tons of Kit Kats in our Dash Mart's that we can't sell. The good news, all you have to do is go to your DoorDash app and add like 500, 600 Kit Kats to your cart and this should resolve itself quickly. Thank you. So I showed these to Shashank and he immediately, he was like, we have to do one for Kitchen Sink. So it was really funny. We workshopped it last night. So Kitchen Sink, this is my husband's app. You guys can download it. We've been made aware that 12 tons of Kit Kats have been stolen in transit and we'd like to offer our deepest condolences to anyone affected by. This chocolate wafer fueled heist. Well, we don't condone theft. If you happen to have 413,793 Kit Kats at your disposal, we've got a few suggestions for you with gratitude. And then we linked three recipes.

• 13:11Rayna Greenberg?

  So I woke up this morning, the first thing I saw on Instagram was this statement from Kitchen Sink. And I was like, did something happen last night? Like, bad? And it said, like, we were Gretchen Foreman. I was like, what happened? I'm so tired and foggy. And I like, then I swiped over and I was like, look at them go.

• 13:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  He immediately, like, I helped workshop a little bit, but I didn't, wasn't even thinking that way. The second I showed him those ones from those other brands, he was like, let's do it. So let me ask you, which of these three would you want? Would you want a blended Kit Kat Milkshake, gooey Kit Kat Smores Skillet, or no bake Kit Kat Cheesecake?

• 13:42Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay. I'm fuck, marry, kill. I'm gonna, I'm gonna kill the middle one. What did you, what was it gooey something?

• 13:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  Skillet, gooey smores skillet, no bake cheesecake, and a milkshake.

• 13:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm gonna fuck the cheesecake. I'm gonna eat the ice cream. I'm gonna fuck the cheese and marry the ice cream. I could have, I eat ice cream like, you know, I have a sneaky ice cream. I eat it like four times a week. But cheesecake is so decadent. I love it so much. I import the Cheesecake Factory. Cheesecake Factory should have come out with a statement. Well, what are they doing?

• 14:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Again, I haven't checked, Wendy still doesn't have one on Instagram. I mean, I'm only checking Instagram, but maybe they're on Twitter. Cheesecake Factory. No, I don't see anything. Bummer. Okay, well, that is the Kit Kat heist. And you guys can find those recipes in the Kitchen Sink app if you want. But the statements that other brands made really put that story like as a top priority for me. I thought it was very funny.

• 14:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, so crazy news that actually broke just a few minutes, a couple hours before we recorded. And that is that Amanda Petula and Wes Wilson have released a joint statement that they are together. From Summer House, if you don't watch it, and we will give you a brief summary of this. But as we were prepping for this episode, the cast had made some statements about whether or not maybe they were together. Austin Kroll from Southern Charm got involved. And people were speculating, Andy Cohen was speculating, but April Fools is also coming up. And people were like, maybe this is an April Fools joke. So I was like, how are we gonna cover this on Tuesday, when like, we may find out on Wednesday, it's April Fools joke. And we were just like, I don't think that this cast is like, I don't think they're silly like that.

• 15:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  To do it as an April Fool's joke. Yeah, we'll break it down. We'll, we'll read the statement. I could not believe what I was seeing. I was like, this isn't real. Like, this is too juicy to be real. And people have been talking about this love triangle, or love square, if you will, you want to bring Kyle into it, whatever, as if it was Scandival. And I was like, come on. And now it's like, in some ways, it's juicier. And I say this isn't like, I don't want to find joy in anyone's pain who's hurting from this. Like, we're always like, Team Ciara, and we stay Team Hannah, by the way. If you really want to get deep with it, we were texting with Hannah. We're in a fire at that group chat with Hannah so quick.

• 15:48Rayna Greenberg?

  I was in the airport yesterday morning. I was like, how good does it feel to be right? So to give you a really quick brief synopsis, Amanda Batula, Kyle Cook, they have been on Summer House since season one, 10 seasons. They got married about five years ago. The relationship has always been super volatile. He's always been really drunk. They fight a lot. And they recently announced their divorce following the wrap of this season.

• 16:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  We talked about it, like, a month or so ago.

• 16:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And Ciara and Wes Wilson, two summers ago, sort of will they, won't they situationship? It really sort of fell apart. Wes gave all these interviews about how he really, he gave a New York Times interview about how he wasn't really that into her in the end. And, you know, that was really never his girlfriend. But that dated the whole summer. She seemed to have real feelings for him. It was really sad to watch her be so hurt by this person on national TV again, after like, Austin Kroll had hurt her on national television also. And Luke, and I mean, she's just been sort of like, she's had some unfortunate things happen to her on television for the world to watch.

• 16:42Ashley Hesseltine?

  With white men.

• 16:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes, with white men.

• 16:44Ashley Hesseltine?

  Which she came on our show, and she said she was done with them. And I would like to circle back to that, Ciara.

• 16:49Rayna Greenberg?

  So this season of Summer House, which is currently airing, the whole storyline is that Wes is kind of into Ciara. And will they get back together? And they're getting along. And he's touching her and flirting with her. And the most recent episode that came out is, everybody was saying was Kyle's worst episode. He is yelling at Amanda. He calls her a dumb fucking bitch on television. Wes goes to her side. He comforts her. He seems to be being very kind. I read it as just friendship. And since then, people in the last month have started speculating. Dumas released some information saying that Probably together because Amanda and West have been seen together around New York City a lot hanging out. But they said, we're just friends. We hang out a lot. We have similar friends. I see them in Instagram stories with our other friends all the time.

• 17:32Rayna Greenberg?

  And then three days ago, the cast starts dropping all these Instagram stories. Lindsay posts her and Ciara together with this crazy face. Carl, crazy face. KJ, crazy face. Everybody's posting stuff and then Austin Kroll gets in there. Meme faces in themselves being like aghast at something on Instagram. The cast starts like shocked faces.

• 17:51Ashley Hesseltine?

  And then people speculated Ciara and Amanda had a rift. They were supposed to do this Amazon Live together and then they didn't.

• 17:58Rayna Greenberg?

  They've canceled press appearances together and then all the way up to Austin Kroll essentially confirming it in an Instagram story with Kyle saying like, eating pasta and fucking your friends' exes are apparently in this season. So people are like, this probably is true. And then this morning, Amanda and Wes drop a joint statement on Instagram, black background, white writing.

• 18:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  On their stories. So they collabed a story and I don't think I've ever seen a announcement that we're together. Can you think of one? Like usually you see we're breaking up. Since when have we had a black background, white writing, serious as all get out, we're together. So dramatic due to the speculation and we're figuring this out. It's this long statement. Like I feel like I couldn't digest it. Like you don't see it. You see breakups. You don't see, yes, the rumors are true collabed story.

• 18:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I just, I think that probably what happens is me wildly, somebody caught them on video finally. And that they knew this was imminently going to come out because the cast all confirmed this a couple of days prior by all posting about this, which I just thought might be a little bit like fodder to promote the episodes and the season because there's a couple more episodes of the season and then the reunion is filming in like two weeks.

• 19:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's hard for me to ever think this stuff is real. It all feels like it's all planned, but it's not, you know, like Scandival was real, you know, like this shit happens in real life and it plays out on these shows, but sometimes it just feels like, oh my God. Like, how can this tea be public for us? But that's how it is, and we'll get into Mormon wives as well. But we were circling the wagons and supporting like, we were messaging with Hannah, with Bobby, like all kinds of people and just like wanting to talk to Nick Vile texted you. Like, I was like, we really got everybody just talking about this. I mean, it was huge news. And, you know, we've come to the conclusion that this, obviously, it's real and it's been going on for a while. And because otherwise, they wouldn't put the statement out. If this was just like new scene where this goes, they wouldn't burn some of these relationships to the ground.

• 20:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  They wouldn't look like villains in this way. So my feeling is that they are serious and they really like each other and they want to be public. And they're going to run around New York and everybody has a camera in their pocket. And someone already posted a photo of allegedly Ciara, looking like she was crying on the street today. You know, it's just like, you can't hide this stuff if you want to be out and about.

• 20:26Rayna Greenberg?

  They were emboldened to post together prior to this. And now people are speculating, so I don't think they can be on the streets together. And you can look at this from different directions. Like, I know that the heart wants what it wants. And you can say, and no one is saying this, but you can say, you know, West and Ciara together years ago, they weren't in a serious relationship. Years have gone by at this point. Kyle was so terrible to Amanda. I don't care. This is despicable from both of them. This is like the one person you should not have been with. This is unbelievably despicable.

• 20:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like, pick somebody else. Again, like, it's always weird to talk about these people because we do know them and we have relationships with some of them. You were just texting with West. You know what's so funny is you were asking West to come on the show. And then he was like, I don't really want to do a show like during the season. And I was like, Raina, I don't even care about this season. Tell him we don't want to talk about the show. I want to talk about him and his, you know, supporting women's rights and all the things.

• 21:19Rayna Greenberg?

  Dating life.

• 21:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I like, really like his personality and I like what he posts about and all these things. And he, he's like politely declined and was like, whatever, like another time. And now I'm like, yeah, obviously, can you imagine if he would have come on?

• 21:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, I followed up and I was like, you can pre-approve the questions if you want. We're not trying to have a gotcha moment with you. Like, we just want to talk. We don't really want to talk about the show that much.

• 21:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  He was like,

• 21:41Rayna Greenberg?

  You're gonna want to, trust me. But it's just, you know, I just say that to be like, it always feels a little weird talking about people that we we know. But yeah, it's really a bummer. You know, I feel for Ciara. I mean, Ciara's a queen and she is on such a rocket ship to fame and success. And I want all the best for her. I would never fucking cross her. No dick is that good. I would never cross Ciara. Especially I would never cross my good friend. Like, I just, why him? Like, I'm just, I'm heartbroken for her. She has nothing to be embarrassed about. These, these two should be embarrassed. This is crazy.

• 22:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So that is that. This was a developing story. Everybody's commenting on it. Like, just all the, the internet was a buzz. Like, people just putting out, like, KFC has posted twice now about this. And this is just getting started as we record.

• 22:28Rayna Greenberg?

  I am so curious what's gonna happen to the show, cuz like, Scandival really skyrocketed Vanderpump and then ended Vanderpump. Like, I don't understand how these people are gonna be in a house together. And like, you know, we always talk about the line between like, what's messy fun and what's messy just horrible to watch. And, you know, I didn't mind watching Lindsay and Carl in a house together. By the time they were in a house together again, she had a baby. And it was just felt really different, you know? Nothing so terrible happened there. Like, how are, how's Kyle gonna be in a house with West? And, man, I just feel like Amanda got out of that. I don't know anything about what they're doing, so I'm gonna reserve judgment. But she got out of that marriage and they were riding for her. This is like a Tyra Banks, like, we were all rooting for you.

• 23:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes.

• 23:10Rayna Greenberg?

  And like, the amount of brand deals that she was getting, she dropped a brand deal yesterday. Like, the amount of brand deals she was gonna get, the amount of goodwill she had from people being like, you finally escaped this man, to just one foul swoop wipe that all out. I mean, this must be the best dick.

• 23:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Ciara. Like, it's weird when you compare it to Ariana Maddox. And Ariana Maddox had, like, all Amanda's story of getting out of this toxic relationship and being the one that was betrayed, you know, and that just like skyrocketed her to fame. So I don't know what happens from here. But, oh, Amanda went from Ariana to Raquel in like a week.

• 23:46Rayna Greenberg?

  Right, yeah. And Ciara's gonna fill that spot. I mean, Ciara's already doing all this amazing stuff. And so she's just, I love seeing her success. But I-

• 23:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  People felt like the show is on the way out. You know, people have been calling for like a spinoff in the city and it's just like seeing these people in their 40s, get drunk and blackout and screaming at each other. I think some people have been over it for a while. Paige is off the show and there's different reasons.

• 24:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Paige leaves the show and all hell breaks loose. They had to replace her with like eight cast members.

• 24:14Ashley Hesseltine?

  But it's so interesting that it could be that exact same story, that like this will be the most popular season, especially now. I haven't been watching, I'm probably gonna go back and watch now and then it could be over, just like Vanderpump.

• 24:24Rayna Greenberg?

  I just am ready for it.

• 24:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Or a different cast, I guess.

• 24:26Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm ready for it to be over. I watched this, I see these like young 25 year olds in this house of 40 year olds. Carl's sober, Kyle's an alcoholic. Like, it's not a fun watch for me anymore. And I wonder if they dropped the statement this week, I mean, because a video probably is impending, is impending? Imminent? It's imminent?

• 24:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  Incoming.

• 24:44Rayna Greenberg?

  But I actually, because Kyle was so terrible on this episode, I wonder if they thought they would get some like brownie points for that, that like she can do whatever she wants and I never thought Kyle would get a victim arc and here we are.

• 24:54Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's crazy.

• 24:56Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, it's insane and I don't know how close he is with Wes, but he's not not friends with Wes.

• 25:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's crazy to do, it's crazy. Like, I just, there's this part of me that's like, they're in love. Cause they are risking a lot.

• 25:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, that's when, when they asked, when Andy Cohen asked Tom Sandoval, Raquel, like, are you in love? And like, they hesitated to confirm and I'm like, you should say with your whole chest, I burned my life down because I am in love, because I am willing to take the firing squad of this and how much people love Ciara and how terrible this looks because I am that in love with this person.

• 25:28Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the way the message read, like, we've had this friendship and things have developed, like, the message was like, this is real, so get on board. And people were like, we will not.

• 25:38Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, they left their comments on and everything. Okay, so I have one final question for you because people were saying this was like the smoking gun last week and I did not agree and I'm in the minority. So, I was talking to my friend Melanie, she was like, you gotta watch the episode, you gotta catch this moment with Wes and Amanda. And it's after like Kyle is screaming at Amanda and Wes goes in to comfort her and there's this moment where she walks out into the hallway and he kind of grabs her arm. And it didn't mean anything to me, but everybody I know that is married is like, you don't touch a person like that that you're not with. So, you watched the video?

• 26:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  I watched the video and it made me feel some type of way, horny, no. It looked like they have something between them, but also these people are always drunk. You know, they like talk to me.

• 26:20Rayna Greenberg?

  So drunk.

• 26:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  I think you were touchy and you look at people adoringly and you just act different when you're drunk. But my first initial reaction was like something's more than friends here. And that's what I thought. And but I'm also just like, I don't know, they could have wanted to, again, just have that kind of drunk, dramatic moment.

• 26:38Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, I don't know. They seem so drunk. I assume that Wes and Amanda are friends. It seemed like a way that you would comfort your friend. Amanda and Wes are the same age. Kyle is 10 years older than them. Like, they just seemed like buddies to me. And then you would, if that is true, you'd have to assume that maybe this has been brewing since like July of last year.

• 26:56Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can you imagine?

• 26:57Rayna Greenberg?

  Crazy.

• 26:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  All right, well, developing story, guys, we will stay on it.

• 27:02Rayna Greenberg?

  And if they don't pick cameras back up for this.

• 27:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know.

• 27:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, I will riot.

• 27:05Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 28:24Ashley Hesseltine?

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• 28:37Rayna Greenberg?

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• 29:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  Can I tell you who was wearing one? Was Aspen, Taylor Frankie Paul's sister.

• 29:18Rayna Greenberg?

  I noticed that!

• 29:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  I looked at it, and Shank literally goes, "Is that the cross-hot?" I was like, "Babe, you know the name of it, the Hot Shot Crossover set." I love it so much. I have the black and the espresso color, and we both got these quilted bags. I have been loving this one. It's great for travel. It's so lightweight and so roomy. Laptop, blanket, whatever you want to put in it to travel, like as your carry-on, and just like so soft and comfy against your body, too. I mean, there are some bags that just are not comfy to carry, and this one's so great. And I love the sports bra, I just took a Barry's class with it last week, and these like bike shorts, and I'm obsessed.

• 29:53Rayna Greenberg?

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• 30:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  So we're just gonna do a quick update on what is going on with the secret lives of Mormon wives. I mean, it is just like a Mormon wives' life, and we're living in it, you know, like-

• 30:17Rayna Greenberg?

  I'm so blessed.

• 30:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Is that the right quote?

• 30:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It's a Mormon wives' world, and we're just living in it.

• 30:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a Mormon wives' world, and we're just living life, what am I, Mormon wife life?

• 30:28Rayna Greenberg?

  After we recorded last week, the Call Her Daddy episode with Jesse Draper dropped previously several days before that, Jordan, her husband, had filed a divorce and gone to TMZ about it, the same day that Dakota had dropped the video of Taylor. And obviously Jesse gives this whole interview about how terrible Jordan is, which he is clearly on television, how he has blackmailed her and verbally abused her and been so terrible. And, you know, we were really all rooting for her also. And then the next day, Miranda, who's on the cast, who was part of the swinging scandal with Taylor, who was married to Chase McHorner, who Taylor also, I guess, slept with, they dated, it comes out that Jesse hooked up with Chase, Miranda's ex-husband.

• 31:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  Like a made out?

• 31:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Made out.

• 31:09Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 31:10Rayna Greenberg?

  So she sends Miranda these flowers, saying like, I'm thinking of you and I'm so sorry. Miranda immediately posts the flowers on Instagram.

• 31:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 31:21Rayna Greenberg?

  With the card, basically being like, get ready with me to find out that your husband's hooking up with all of your friends.

• 31:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Also, the same day we posted our reel about get ready with me videos, like Miranda's doing her makeup, like, get ready with me to find out your husband is a waiting room for all of your friends, basically. People were like sending it to me, like, oh my God, you guys just did this. And, I mean, we're blessed. I love Miranda.

• 31:41Rayna Greenberg?

  Are there any other men in the state of Utah besides Dakota and Chase?

• 31:46Ashley Hesseltine?

  There's no other hot liberal men that can fuck, I bet.

• 31:50Rayna Greenberg?

  That's just Chase, though, not Dakota.

• 31:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Just Chase, is my point. Like, Chase is making the rounds, Chase will get you pregnant and he will support your abortion. Chase is the hot, only hot liberal man in that community.

• 32:02Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, this won't stop me from DMing him when I go there next week.

• 32:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  I'm telling you, like, this just goes to show, a man who cares about women's rights.

• 32:09Rayna Greenberg?

  And paints his nails.

• 32:10Ashley Hesseltine?

  And he's gonna get it in. But here's the thing, like, wasn't, Chase is part of the original swinging scandal, like, he is.

• 32:16Rayna Greenberg?

  So Chase and Miranda were married, they were the original scandal. So Chase has hooked up with Taylor, obviously. Chase also has slept with Leila, they dated. And then Leila dated Mason, his brother. And then Chase also was hooking up with Shania, who Dakota had this whole thing with this season.

• 32:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shania.

• 32:35Rayna Greenberg?

  He had a threesome with Shania, which then Chase's sister. confirmed on Instagram last week.

• 32:40Ashley Hesseltine?

  Shania, girl.

• 32:41Rayna Greenberg?

  And now Chase and Jesse and like then you know it was so funny.

• 32:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jesse is gonna make out with everybody, that's for sure. Jesse and Marciano, Marciano.

• 32:50Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, and Marciano. I'm not gonna get the quote, right? But basically, like when Miranda posted about Jesse doing this, Jordan got in the comments, Jesse's ex-husband, and was just like, now we're all finding out that she's this terrible blah blah. And somebody just really, shut the fuck up, Jordan.

• 33:03Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 33:03Rayna Greenberg?

  You didn't eat down with this. This does not make you any less terrible.

• 33:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Jordan, delete your account. No, Chase, it's just like, I feel like hooking up with Chase is a Mormon tradition at this point. Like, Chase is Book of Mormon. Like, literally, it's, he is, everyone's getting a ride.

• 33:20Rayna Greenberg?

  Get on the show?

• 33:21Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's the, that's the casting couch.

• 33:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  Sign me up. Shoshon said he's, he's my hall pass.

• 33:27Rayna Greenberg?

  It's part of the interview process?

• 33:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  You get a psych eval and you have to have sex with Chase?

• 33:32Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, him and Miranda's vibe is so interesting to me. They post a lot of TikToks together about how she's not interested in him. And so I don't think people are as mad at Jesse because I think the vibe is with Miranda, that she doesn't really wanna be with him, she doesn't care. Leila is also one of Miranda's best friends and she dated Chase also.

• 33:49Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't know about the Leila thing. Did I miss that?

• 33:51Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah.

• 33:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 33:52Rayna Greenberg?

  It was last season. And then she started dating Mason, so his brother, and they are, since broken up as well. I don't know how much Miranda cares. I think she's just probably at this point like, come on, can we stop with my husband? Can he just stop?

• 34:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 34:05Rayna Greenberg?

  But he is just slipping his way through Salt Lake and I would just like to say, Chase, I will be at Wise Guys Comedy Club in Salt Lake next week.

• 34:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  What night am I gonna be there?

• 34:13Rayna Greenberg?

  April 8th, I will be in Salt Lake at Wise Guys. So, um, Chase, if you're there and you wanna see me.

• 34:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  He really needs to come. Watch it be Dakota instead. Okay, question for you.

• 34:22Rayna Greenberg?

  Who would I rather?

• 34:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, sure.

• 34:25Rayna Greenberg?

  Looks only?

• 34:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, do people think Dakota's hot?

• 34:28Rayna Greenberg?

  If, I removed everything about Dakota that I know as a per, I think he's an objectively like gorgeous man.

• 34:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Gorgeous? Okay, is this the consensus? Did he get hair transplant also? His hair looks thicker this season. I'm just curious what people think. Let, leave a comment. I mean, I do think he is very attractive. His hair does look thicker now. He looks hotter this season. He's hotter and more terrible. But I was just wondering, like, is he like this heartthrob of, of Utah? Okay.

• 34:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, he is objectively so good looking.

• 34:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, he's tall, he does have great hair, he's like beautiful eyes, his voice takes me out.

• 35:02Rayna Greenberg?

  It's like his Taylor, like kind of like whiny going.

• 35:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:06Rayna Greenberg?

  I really hate.

• 35:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's fair.

• 35:07Rayna Greenberg?

  Chase, I like his style a lot. He's always just like doing something kind of crazy. He likes being a girl dad. He's always like posting cute stuff with his kids. Like, I mean, you can't remove Dakota's. Mason's not for me.

• 35:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really?

• 35:19Rayna Greenberg?

  If he just, if he cut his hair.

• 35:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 35:20Rayna Greenberg?

  The hair, it's the hair that's not for me. I mean, Chase, Chase is like a buzzed head with a mustache.

• 35:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mason looks like that, uh, driver I fucked in Greece.

• 35:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Does he?

• 35:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  Mason?

• 35:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Oh, okay.

• 35:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  It's a similar vibe.

• 35:32Rayna Greenberg?

  But I mean, if I had to pick one just by looks, don't know their personality at all, I think I'm going Dakota.

• 35:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  You're going Dakota.

• 35:39Rayna Greenberg?

  But I mean, spend three minutes with either one of them. Chase, it's not even, it's not, and honestly, it's a hard decision for me because I could go either way.

• 35:48Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, I finished the season. I just want to say, I cannot believe Taylor Frankie Paul was ever cast as The Bachelorette and I cannot believe ABC didn't check in during the season, like, how's our girl doing? It's insane. Like, you had told me this is not a take. I just want to leave it at that, that I did finish the season. It just becomes more and more unbelievable with every episode that they let this happen. And I stand by our firm belief that ABC made sure the show got canceled because they didn't want to air this season.

• 36:15Rayna Greenberg?

  I was shocked by people saying, speculating that ABC was gonna sue Taylor Frankie Paul. Taylor Frankie Paul should sue them. That's crazy. And I did hear that she does get her full paycheck because she did complete the assignment essentially.

• 36:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, good.

• 36:28Rayna Greenberg?

  And everybody knew about this. This was in a police report. I'm surprised ABC did not have producers on the set of Mormon Wives, at least getting screeners ahead of time. This is a person that was unwell. And everybody stood to benefit from her going on this show.

• 36:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  You could feel it.

• 36:43Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes. And this is a person that was really unwell and should not have been put in this position. And, you know, to film, so they actually like never take breaks from filming Mormon Wives. It's back to back to back seasons and reunions. And then she, what, just gets up and goes to film three months, 18 hours a day of The Bachelor? Like, she was put in an impossible position. So anyways, I'm glad you finished it. This is very crazy. Stay tuned for who Chase sleeps with next.

• 37:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay. So really quickly, we just wanted to recap Age of Attraction. There was a reunion that aired Last night, so Netflix didn't air the reunion. Nick Viall aired it on his podcast, essentially on The Viall Files, him and Natalie hosted the show. And this happens sometimes with newer shows, you don't get a reunion right away. I mean, Summer House didn't have a reunion for years. So I love that he took it into his own hands and he sent us the screener. So we were able to take a look at it. So, you know, I didn't think anyone was gonna last on this show, but I really did enjoy the show. Everyone looked so hot at the reunion. Everyone was really well behaved. I mean, you've got a lot of older people in the room, you know, keeping it classy. But who's still together? Vanessa and Logan are still engaged. I cannot believe they are

• 37:50Ashley Hesseltine?

  together, got engaged. I mean, they just bickered all the time. You just didn't see that coming. And then Libby and Andrew, that super smoke guy and Jessica Simpson, they are still together. And Teresa and John, the first couple to really go into the promise room together and the biggest age gap, 27, 54, who was younger than some of her kids or her one son, they broke up and I think that was a bummer. People were like rooting for them. So that's really what happened. And I did do doppelgangers for this, but we're kind of in a time crunch today. So I think I'm gonna do it on my Instagram. Cause this one spoke to me. I have a lot of them.

• 38:27Rayna Greenberg?

  Do it in tandem as the reunion comes out today.

• 38:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. So I'll just post that, check my Instagram, Ash Hess. I'm gonna do all my side by sides for age retraction, if you guys care. But thank you to Nick for letting us screen this and talk about it. I'm glad that they did the reunion because I saw that whole show through and was like, I wanted to know what, where everybody stands.

• 38:44Rayna Greenberg?

  Well, you know, they used to not give Summer House a reunion. They didn't even get a reunion until Hannah and Paige came out of the scene. And like, it's disappointing when you don't get to see like what happens at the end of these shows.

• 38:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  I know. So I love this. And he sent us a long cut and it wasn't fully edited, I don't think. And I was like, to edit this? Cause we were talking about it. The people who have to edit these reunions down. From what 10 hours to like an hour or two, or sometimes there's two parts, obviously. But I was just like, the people who edit that, just I want to give them all their flowers.

• 39:13Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know how you do it. I really don't. Mormon wives, they were like, let's just do all of dad talk. Let's just have them on the stage for the entire hour.

• 39:19Ashley Hesseltine?

  Remove the women from the stage. Let's remove the Mormon wives from the stage.

• 39:22Rayna Greenberg?

  And you know, love story, the finale came out, it is over finally.

• 39:26Ashley Hesseltine?

  I didn't finish it. I threw in the towel.

• 39:28Rayna Greenberg?

  You know, I started watching the show. I didn't love it, then I started to like it. Cause I like, you and I both like 90s, New York City and the fashion and Calvin Klein. And that was kind of fun to watch. I mean, overall, I thought it was kind of hacky. The characters are not believable to me at all. They just sell you that this is the sort of like regular guy, this regular couple, they're at a dive bar in the middle of the day, having a drink. No, they're not. That's the son of the most famous president in the world. This is the most famous family besides the Kardashians.

• 39:52Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 39:53Rayna Greenberg?

  So it's over, but I wanted to tell you something funny and I want to know what you thought about this. So because like, so many people are like emulating Carolyn Bisette's style and they just want to look just like her. And this is like swept the nation, this look. And I keep looking at it and being like, this is so plain. And Melanie said to me, this is just a girl, like a model looks like she went to Everlane. Like, don't you think it's just like, the fashion is not that amazing and inspiring. It is just like a very tall, thin, objectively beautiful person with a perfect face and perfect hair in some really plain, like Everlane.

• 40:25Ashley Hesseltine?

  Well, she looks put together and she looks classy and she is giving quiet luxury. I feel like she was a pioneer of that without realizing that. But I saw this one take and I don't remember who it was. It was someone who, who knew her. I could never find this if I tried, but I saw someone kind of speaking on it with authority. And they were like, she wasn't this fashion icon like y'all think. She was just greasy hair and a ponytail. Like she was just throwing on whatever. And people have turned her into this icon that, no insult to her, she was just. Putting on whatever and she just looked great, you know, so it was kind of like people have idealized her into something that she didn't care about. Like she wasn't a fashion girlie, I guess. That's what they said.

• 41:08Rayna Greenberg?

  But that's what I'm saying. This is just an objectively flawless looking person. She could put on anything. I could put on those outfits that would look like her, you know? The person I think probably who said this is Carol Radzwell, who was formerly a Real Housewives of New York, and she is going to be on the new Real Housewives of New York. She was left out of the show. And basically, she was married to Anthony Radzwell, who is the son of Jackie Onassis's sister.

• 41:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, so she is related to me.

• 41:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Lee Radzwell.

• 41:34Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 41:35Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, so she's part of your family. So Carol had always said that her and Anthony were best friends with JFK Jr. and Carolyn, and then they passed away, and then her husband, Anthony, died a couple of weeks later.

• 41:45Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay.

• 41:46Rayna Greenberg?

  And she refused in Real Housewives to talk about this. It was in her contract. She would not talk about knowing the Kennedys. She did not want to be on television talking about this. And she was left out of Love Story. And now she's on this interview circuit, talking to anybody that she can, Dumois, The New York Times, giving all these quotes and interviews. Everybody else associated with the show that's still alive is like, this is crap, and I don't want to be associated with this. And Carol Radzwell is like, how high can I wave my hand for this?

• 42:12Ashley Hesseltine?

  Really?

• 42:13Rayna Greenberg?

  And it is shocking. She did Dumois's podcast.

• 42:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  Whatever she can get her claws into.

• 42:17Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 42:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  Anyone who will listen.

• 42:19Rayna Greenberg?

  It's crazy to me because like you have Jack Slasberg and Daryl Hannah being like, I don't want to be associated with this. This is all fictionalized. This is bullshit.

• 42:27Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 42:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Carol's like, how much can I do interviews about this? It's very cringe. But I'm thinking maybe it's because she's going to be on the new Real Housewives, so she's trying to get her name out there again. But it is just, it's very funny to watch.

• 42:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  That makes sense.

• 42:40Rayna Greenberg?

  Yes.

• 42:41Ashley Hesseltine?

  Nothing's real, no. Okay, thank you for explaining that to me. You kept trying to tell me about it. Like, Rain, I can't, I don't know why I'm digesting this. I'm not understanding who this woman is. And so thank you for breaking it down. She's in my family, obviously. We are distant cousins with Jackie O, my grandmother, somehow. She's in the family tree. Okay, well, we are just gonna leave you guys with a few headlines. Right off the bat, Kristi Noem is blindsided by cross-dressing husband who put her at risk for blackmail. So this is a developing story. Kristi's having a tough month. She was fired.

• 43:12Rayna Greenberg?

  You'd love to see it, you know?

• 43:13Ashley Hesseltine?

  And now her husband is Bruce Jenner. I guess there's... Pictures of her husband, compromising photographs. You know, it's always these people. The call is always coming from inside the house. It's always people who want to

• 43:23Rayna Greenberg?

  It's never not.

• 43:23Ashley Hesseltine?

  Take rights away from gay people or trans people or whatever it is that have their own skeletons. Whatever he's doing, he's welcome to do. But I just, this, it is always the case.

• 43:33Rayna Greenberg?

  Thou doth protest too much. It is crazy. You're trying to protect people from people like this. It's your husband.

• 43:38Ashley Hesseltine?

  We don't know all the ins and outs of this. We just heard about it. So you guys can do your own research, but we had to get that headline out. And the Laguna Beach cast reunited at a black and white affair last week in LA. And Lauren and Kristen were on the red carpet together. They did a TikTok together. We'll show it on YouTube. They did this like Miley Cyrus audio, just like, we're so different, but we're friends. Like they, Kristen captioned it besties.

• 44:03Rayna Greenberg?

  It's so crazy.

• 44:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  The world is healing.

• 44:06Rayna Greenberg?

  Look at people growing up.

• 44:07Ashley Hesseltine?

  Did you see what Kristen wore?

• 44:09Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it was like that throwback from, from the show.

• 44:11Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yes, like the white dress and the, the choker. We talked about

• 44:13Rayna Greenberg?

  Do you think Kristen didn't even know? Do you think she just still dresses like that?

• 44:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's like, oh, I had that in my closet. We'd love to see the black choker make a resurgence. So Grok, the AI bot, misidentifies Druski's Erika Kirk as the real person. So let me just break this down. So Druski, who is number one creator now on the internet, his sketches just take off. They go crazy and he impersonates people and he impersonates, he's a black man. He does white people, whatever. So he did Erika Kirk. He didn't say her name. The video just says how conservative women in America act. And he impersonates her. Did you watch the full video?

• 44:52Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it's, I mean, I real, I mean, I know it's not her.

• 44:55Ashley Hesseltine?

  Oh, for sure, but it's

• 44:57Rayna Greenberg?

  But like AI didn't.

• 44:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, so people asked Grok, Elon Musk's AI bot, whatever, is this Erika Kirk? And Grok identified him as Erika Kirk.

• 45:08Ashley Hesseltine?

  And there's fan fiction surrounding this, that Erika Kirk sent a cease and desist. I don't think that that's really accurate. And then there was this thing Joe Exotic got in the comments. Did you see this?

• 45:17Rayna Greenberg?

  No.

• 45:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I was seeing that Joe Exotic posted that we all know Erika Kirk put a hit out on Charlie Kirk. And then someone wrote, Joe, how are you writing this from prison? And he was like, it's all corrupt, girl. And I cannot, I don't think this is real.

• 45:29Rayna Greenberg?

  Joe's always commenting from prison.

• 45:30Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, I couldn't find this actual comment.

• 45:32Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay, he always comments stuff. He's always just like getting in there and you're, we're always like, Joe, how are you commenting on stuff? This is a pervasive issue.

• 45:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Okay, but the fact that he said that, I didn't take off as much as I feel like it should have. So I'd let us know if you guys, I'll ask Rock after this, if that's real or not. But I mean, this Dru ski video is so good and he never says her by name. And he does all the things like he does the blue eyes, all her, the insane way she speaks.

• 45:56Rayna Greenberg?

  The jawline.

• 45:57Ashley Hesseltine?

  Her coming out, yeah, the smushed Barbie doll head. And I just think that's crazy that, you know, that's what's taken off this week in terms of in the Erika Kirk world. And also that they're saying the bullet is not. The bullet doesn't match the gun that they said Tyler, whoever, what's his name?

• 46:16Rayna Greenberg?

  I don't know. No one knows his name because we never heard anything about him ever again. We never heard anything about the person that shot Donald Trump ever again.

• 46:22Ashley Hesseltine?

  So that's what's on the, in the news this week. But then some people are like bullets change forms or I don't know. But people are again speculating.

• 46:30Rayna Greenberg?

  That was staged.

• 46:31Ashley Hesseltine?

  That the bullet was not even from that guy's gun.

• 46:33Rayna Greenberg?

  This is the most conspiracy theorist I become is this story.

• 46:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah.

• 46:37Rayna Greenberg?

  Okay. And lastly, United is launching Relax Rose, so lie flat economy seats. And the internet went crazy about this. So I just thought at first it was because TSA lines were so long and people were all missing their flights. And there's just these empty flights. But I saw it, I thought United was just like, fuck it, let them lay down. But United is selling these economy seats. It's basically like three economy seats across and you can lay down and it's like nice for people with kids to travel with. I mean, I want to travel like this.

• 47:06Ashley Hesseltine?

  So it's going to be next year, but yeah, it says there's adjustable leg rest that fold up to a 90 degree angle and create this spacious lie flat sleeping area. And it does seem like families.

• 47:16Rayna Greenberg?

  Yeah, it looks like people with kids.

• 47:18Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, I don't know, three seats, price wise, it would have to make sense. I mean, a lie flat seat. These days, one way, 2,500, 2,000. So three economy seats, I mean, you could probably do them all for a thousand. I don't know what, I mean, you are gonna save money, I think, no matter what.

• 47:36Rayna Greenberg?

  Absolutely.

• 47:37Ashley Hesseltine?

  But I just think it's so funny that someone across the aisle from you, like, you could be in a middle seat and you look across the aisle and there's a family sleeping. There's a mom and two kids sleeping and you're in a middle seat on a long flight. You're like, fuck this. I don't want to see that.

• 47:50Rayna Greenberg?

  That's true. That's why they have, at least they have the curtains on the others.

• 47:53Ashley Hesseltine?

  That's what I'm saying. Like, you're separated from the people in the lay flats in economy. And now they're right there, fucking playpen set up, pack and play, a mom with her two kids. The whole family's asleep.

• 48:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Are you legally allowed to do this on planes? Like, if I just bought three economy seats. So like, I fly to New York a lot. The economy seats to New York are like 200 bucks. And then the Delta ones are like 2,500. Can I just buy three economy seats and sleep like that? Or they like make you like be a person?

• 48:20Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah, but I think they give you the stuff to make it into a bed.

• 48:23Rayna Greenberg?

  Make it a bed, okay.

• 48:24Ashley Hesseltine?

  But you're like, I brought my own bed? That is so funny.

• 48:27Rayna Greenberg?

  I bought my own bed.

• 48:29Ashley Hesseltine?

  I mean, yeah, you can buy as many seats as you want. And sometimes people who are bigger will buy two seats and just have more room. I think Nikki Glaser, I swear, I don't want to even speak on her, but I swear like so many years ago, when she had plenty of money to fly, however she wanted to, she was like, I prefer to buy multiple seats in economy. I think, I'm pretty certain that she was like, she was never in first or she was never in Delta one lay flat. She was like, I like to have a few seats at my disposal in the back.

• 48:54Rayna Greenberg?

  I mean, unless you're getting a lay flat, those seats are very similar. Like a row three first class seat and a row 16, middle and end.

• 49:04Ashley Hesseltine?

  Right.

• 49:04Rayna Greenberg?

  Same seat.

• 49:05Ashley Hesseltine?

  Yeah. I had a great seat on United recently. I flew United to Newark. I love Newark Airport, Newark, New Jersey. And it was the first row in the like, economy, but like premium economy.

• 49:15Rayna Greenberg?

  The bulkhead.

• 49:16Ashley Hesseltine?

  The bulkhead. And no one in the middle. So there was someone in the end and I was at the window. I was like, this is a a dream, but the seat wasn't huge, but with no one next to me, I was like, I will die for this seat.

• 49:28Rayna Greenberg?

  Girl, 33A on a Delta flight from LAX to New York City is what I prefer. I say, do not upgrade me to comfort. I want only a first class upgrade if I'm gonna be upgraded because I want 33A. That is the biggest row. It's huge.

• 49:43Ashley Hesseltine?

  There was one time I sat in the seat that was like, I thought it was a bulkhead and I felt like I was on the wing. I couldn't explain it. I was like, there was electrical stuff around me, like the screen popped out of the armrest. I was like, never again.

• 49:55Rayna Greenberg?

  I was in an exit row yesterday and there was no armrest.

• 49:58Ashley Hesseltine?

  No, unacceptable.

• 49:59Rayna Greenberg?

  Terrifying.

• 50:00Ashley Hesseltine?

  Give me my money back. Okay, guys, well, that is your snack. Lots of tea. We got through a lot in an hour. So we will see you guys here in LA on May 7th. Us and the Chippendales come horny for the best show. Tickets at girlsgottaeat.com. You can find us on Instagram at girlsgottaeepodcast, also on TikTok, girlsgottaeepodcast. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Reina is reina.greenberg, Rayna greenberg.com for tickets to Salt Lake City and more. And you can watch full video on YouTube and Spotify. So check that out. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, leave a rating or a comment and we will see you Monday.

• 50:39Rayna Greenberg?

  Have a good week, guys.

• 50:39Ashley Hesseltine?

  Bye.

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