Movie Review: Average Joe [TEASER]

A movie about a dipshit who prays his way to the Supreme Court. It’s worse than you imagine. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at www.patreon.com/fivefourpod http://www.patreon.com/fivefourpod. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Andrew Parsons. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations. Transcriptions of each episode are available at fivefourpod.com http://fivefourpod.com Follow the show at @fivefourpod on most platforms. On BlueSky, find Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social, Michael @fleerultra.bsky.social, and Rhiannon @aywarhiannon.bsky.social. Our Sponsors: * Check out Mint Mobile and use my code mintmobile.com/fivefour for a great deal: https://www.mintmobile.com * Check out Quince and use my code FIVEFOUR for a great deal: https://www.quince.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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• 0:00Peter Shamshiri?

  Hey, coach. Could I pray with you?

• 0:03Speaker 01

  Free country.

• 0:07Speaker 02

  Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this subscriber-only episode of Five to Four, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael are marking the holiday season by watching the minor motion picture, Average Joe. As you'll hear, the film is only kind of about the Supreme Court, but it does, in its way, center around the court's 2022 ruling in favor of Joe Kennedy. Football coach at a public high school claimed a First Amendment right to pray on the field during games.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  You weren't trying to convert them? Look, I'm a Marine, and the Constitution means something to me. It's always been a freedom thing.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  The result is a muddled bit of Christian propaganda that is much less fun to watch than it is to make fun of on a podcast.

• 0:52Speaker 02

  This is Five to Four, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

• 1:02Peter Shamshiri?

  Welcome to Five to Four, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have done a hostile takeover of this country, like Paramount taking over Warner Brothers. I'm Peter. I'm here with Rhiannon.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  Hey, everybody.

• 1:14Peter Shamshiri?

  And Michael.

• 1:15Michael Liroff?

  I'm so upset that I have to root for fucking Netflix to consolidate media and buy Warner Brothers Discovery, because the alternative is Paramount. Fuck Paramount.

• 1:25Peter Shamshiri?

  Yeah.

• 1:26Speaker 03

  Fuck the Ellison's.

• 1:27Michael Liroff?

  Fuck the Ellison's.

• 1:28Peter Shamshiri?

  Well, when I look at the Warner Brothers catalog, I think,

• 1:34Peter Shamshiri?

  what would a bunch of pervert freaks do with this? You know? I'm curious. I need to see it.

• 1:41Speaker 03

  Wait, does that mean that you want to see Netflix, what Netflix does with it, or what the Ellison's do with it?

• 1:47Peter Shamshiri?

  I was referring to the Ellison's. Unfortunately, we're forced to root for Netflix here. Which, by the way, I was just thinking about this. I was reminiscing the other day. Do you guys remember when Netflix sort of like first dropped?

• 2:00Speaker 03

  Streaming or just like DVD rental?

• 2:02Peter Shamshiri?

  I mean streaming. I mean streaming specifically. Because when I first booted up Netflix, that first year, I feel like you didn't have the same choice paralysis that you get now.

• 2:12Michael Liroff?

  Right.

• 2:13Peter Shamshiri?

  You were just like, there's a bunch, like, I can watch all of these movies? And they're, and they're just putting prestige television?

• 2:21Speaker 03

  It's beautiful to have all these choices.

• 2:23Michael Liroff?

  It's incredible.

• 2:25Peter Shamshiri?

  And now, when I hear that little dun dun, I'm like, ah, here we go.

• 2:28Speaker 03

  It's a burden.

• 2:29Peter Shamshiri?

  Just me, just me and my wife, just scrolling through a hundred different options, being like, no, no.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  Mood in the toilet.

• 2:38Peter Shamshiri?

  No. And then we're like, fine, Great British Baking Show, whatever. Who gives a shit? Who gives a fucking shit anymore?

• 2:47Peter Shamshiri?

  All right. Holiday special, folks. We've made it a bit of a tradition to do a movie review episode during the holiday season. Unfortunately, we're pretty low on Supreme Court themed movies. Thankfully, one popped up last year about a recent Supreme Court case that we've covered.

• 3:10Speaker 03

  So topical, so relevant. Jermaine.

• 3:13Peter Shamshiri?

  If you guys remember, there is a case, Kennedy v Bramerton School District. This is the praying coach. There was a coach on a high school football team who started praying in the middle of the field. And then the school district was like, hey, I don't know if you can do that because separation of church and state. And then he sued and took it up to the Supreme Court and won. And they made a movie about it, folks. By they, I mean a bunch of Christian dipshits. Who don't understand how a film needs to be structured in order to be coherent.

• 3:50Michael Liroff?

  Or narrative, or

• 3:51Speaker 03

  Dialogue.

• 3:52Michael Liroff?

  Writing, visual storytelling, none of it. They don't understand any of it. Yeah.

• 3:57Peter Shamshiri?

  So the movie's called Average Joe. It came out last year, 2024, I think. We have to talk about the format first. It's done in the format of like a meta documentary, where you have Joe, Coach Joe, and his wife, and they are narrating. Hey, folks, if you want to hear the rest of this episode, you're going to have to subscribe. This episode is one of our premium Patreon only episodes. Membership starts at just five bucks a month. So if you want to hear the rest, join us at patreon.com/54pod. That's five four pod, all spelled out. Members get a bunch of stuff. Not only do you get access to the premium episodes, but access to subscriber only events, discounts on merch. And at the $10 a month level, you get bigger discounts on merch and membership

• 4:42Peter Shamshiri?

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