Crazed Boyfriend Threatened To Kill Her, Then Amanda Dean Disappeared...

In July 2017, mother of four Amanda Dean disappeared from her home in Collins, Ohio. Amanda had shared some troubling information with her family, who had begun making plans to help her escape her relationship. When her loved ones reported her missing, authorities claimed Amanda was safe in a domestic violence shelter and closed the case. But her family never heard from her again, and it would take more than five years before the investigation was finally reopened. What happened to Amanda, and why had her disappearance gone uninvestigated for so long? Find more information about Cleveland Missing here. https://www.clevelandmissing.org/ This episode is sponsored by: SKIMS: Shop my favorite loungewear and pajamas at SKIMS.com http://skims.com. EarnIn: Download EarnIn on the App Store or Google Play. Available in select states. Terms and restrictions apply. Visit EarnIn.com http://EarnIn.com for full details Hiya Health: Receive 50% off your first order on any of their products. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/TCKR http://hiyahealth.com/TCKR. This deal is not available on their regular website. Nutrafol: Listeners get $15 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you visit nutrafol.com http://nutrafol.com and enter promo code KENDALLRAE. Quince: Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to quince.com http://quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. Check out my foundation: Higher Hope Foundation: https://www.higherhope.org/ Watch my documentaries: 530 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUWkmOjNLk Apartment 801: https://bit.ly/2RJ9XXr True Crime with Kendall Rae podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rks84o Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3jC66pr Shop my Merch! https://kendallrae.shop https://kendallrae.shop/ Check out my other podcasts: Mile Higher (True Crime) @milehigherpod YouTube: https://bit.ly/2ROzJcw Instagram: http://instagram.com/milehigherpod The Sesh (Current events, a little true crime, pop culture, and commentary) https://bit.ly/3Mtoz4X @the_seshpodcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/3a9t6Xr *Follow My Social!* @KendallRaeOnyt Instagram: http://instagram.com/kendallraeonyt Facebook: https://bit.ly/3kar4NK True Crime TikTok: https://bit.ly/3VDbc77 Personal TikTok: https://bit.ly/41hmRKg REQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://zfrmz.com/yg9cuiWjUe2QY3hSC2V0 Form for people directly related/close to the victim: https://zfrmz.com/HGu2hZso42aHxARt1i67 Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, it’s free! https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCN C O N T A C T: For Business Inquiries - [email protected] Send me mail: Kendall Rae 8547 E Arapahoe Rd Ste J #233 Greenwood Village, CO 80112

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• 1:08Kendall Rae?

  Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of True Crime with Kendall Rae. Thank you so much for joining me today. And if you're new to the show, welcome. I'm so happy to have you here. And make sure to click Subscribe, or Follow, or whatever it is on whatever platform you are on, so that you never miss an episode from me. Now, guys, I want to start today's episode with a scenario, okay? Imagine that you are worried about a loved one. And the reason you're worried is because you know they are in a dangerous relationship, one that is filled with domestic violence. And you've been trying to come up with a plan to help them get out safely. But before you can do that, they disappear.

• 1:51Kendall Rae?

  And so in that situation, you would report them missing, right? Well, imagine that, that's what you do. You report them missing, and then 24 hours later, you get a call from the sheriff himself telling you that your loved one is actually fine, that they are alive, that they're safe, that they're at a shelter. Now, most of us, when we find out something like that, would feel instantly relieved, you know, because your mind would go to crazy places when someone who is in a dangerous relationship goes missing. And I know that that is exactly how Amanda Dean's family felt when the same thing happened to them, when they heard that Amanda was safe, she was alive, and she was in a shelter.

• 2:35Kendall Rae?

  But here's the thing, that ended up not being true, because the sheriff lied, and nobody knows why. It's completely bizarre. That is the premise of today's case. It's something that I have never seen in all my years of covering cases. And I think I said that about last week's case, too. So we're getting into some, uh, new territory, I guess. And honestly, I can't believe that Amanda Dean's case hasn't gotten more coverage, more attention, more outrage, that more people aren't talking about what Amanda and her family have been through. Now, I do want to go into this saying that the details in this case, as we go forward,

• 3:17Kendall Rae?

  are incredibly upsetting, and also, they're just brutal. And, you know, it was, um, territory that I don't normally tread into when it comes to covering cases, because it is, um, yeah, it is really, really disturbing. But it's a very important story to tell. And it's really the story of a family's fight for truth. As citizens, we should all be aware that things like this happen, that there is this type of corruption and just failures. Because, you know, no one ever thinks they're going to be the one to end up in a situation like this, to be dealing with a situation like this in the aftermath of someone's murder.

• 4:01Kendall Rae?

  And Amanda's case is such a powerful reminder that it's never too late to get justice, and that utilizing community resources can really make a massive difference between a killer going to jail or a killer just walking free. Before getting into this episode, I just wanted to thank you all for listening to and supporting my show, and also any of the Mile Higher Media shows. Your support makes it possible for us to continue funding grants through my foundation, Higher Hope, which supports victims of violent crimes, their families, and like-minded nonprofits. And with that, let's get into this case, okay? So I want to start out, of course, by telling you more about Amanda Dean. So she was born as the youngest of three girls on February 3, 1981,

• 4:45Kendall Rae?

  her full name being Amanda Dureen Dean. And she was described as a wild child from day one. The amount of times I got called a wild child as a kid, I always love when I hear about a fellow wild child. I think we're a special breed. And her sisters, Shannon and Stephanie, and also her mom Caroline, talk about how she had this really energetic sort of tomboy energy of their family, and was often swinging from tree branch to tree branch on their big Florida property, which sounds awesome. Amanda has also been described as the fearless, animal-loving sister who loved to explore their property with the family dog Banjo. After her parents split up when she was in first grade,

• 5:27Kendall Rae?

  she, her sisters, and her mom moved to Huron County, Ohio. And by all accounts, she remained as adventurous and as rambunctious as ever. As she grew up, her sisters say that her, you know, tomboy side really never faded, and that ended up translating into the work that she would do as an adult. She was actually super passionate about working on boats, so whenever she could, that's what she would surround herself with. She had other jobs, too, like working in restaurants, but her family says that she really seemed to thrive most in more, you know, classically male-dominated spaces. Amanda was also a mother of four boys, so she had a lot on her plate.

• 6:10Kendall Rae?

  She had her first son, Josh, in 1998, and then it didn't end up working out with his dad, so it was just the two of them for a while. But then later on, she had three more sons, Sam, Jacob, and David. And her three youngest did end up living with their dad, although from what I've read, it was very apparent that they still spent a lot of time with Amanda. And also, at some point, Josh was living with his grandma. So, you know, complicated living situations, for sure. But all of that aside, they seem to all have great memories with her and a great relationship with her, as far as I know. Amanda was also said to be a songbird, and they remember some very intense car karaoke battles that they used to have in her 93 Corolla. In fact, her love of singing and music was actually how her mom and sisters planned

• 6:55Kendall Rae?

  to get her out of the dangerous relationship she ended up in. Now, the full picture of Amanda's dating history hasn't been described in a whole lot of detail necessarily, but from what I did gather, there was a point while living in Ohio when she began dating a guy named Frederick Reer, okay? Now, it's believed that they met while they were working at Olive Garden. However, they ended up breaking up temporarily. And then after their breakup, she and Josh moved to South Carolina, which was near her sister Stephanie. And during that time, it's said that things were really looking up for her. That is, until she ended up in a relationship with a man named Tom, who was an absolute monster, you guys.

• 7:38Kendall Rae?

  Josh even remembers Tom was incredibly abusive to his mom, and at one point, he even stabbed her. And thankfully, he did not get away with that. He ended up in jail, and that was ultimately enough to send Amanda and Josh back to Ohio, which is where her mom Caroline and her other sister Shannon were living. And that's when, in 2016, she ended up reconnecting with Fred, who, just like Tom, was also a very bad human. Now, something that's important to know about Amanda that I've learned just by listening to her loved ones speak about her is that she seemed to just be someone who really yearned for love, that she wanted to be loved by somebody.

• 8:21Kendall Rae?

  And she wanted that so desperately, as so many people do, right? Everyone wants to experience true love and to feel truly appreciated and cared for. And so even when she was with the wrong person, she would really try to make it work. You know, she just desperately wanted that. And that's why she was willing to live with Fred in the place that they did. Some people have called it a cabin, others have called it a shack. And, you know, I honestly can't sugarcoat it. The situation was pretty bad. The cabin, if you want to call it that, was on his mom's property in Collins, Ohio. And there was no plumbing, so if they had to use the restroom, they'd have to go into her house to do so.

• 9:03Kendall Rae?

  And while they did have a refrigerator and a bed, there wasn't much else. Amanda's family say that they knew this was not a good situation for her, not a good place for her to be. And even Amanda thought that herself, but she, you know, she seemed to be a very positive person. And she remained hopeful that sometime soon, they would find a better place and they would move out. But that never ended up happening. And as 2016 turned into 2017, Fred's drug use and abuse of Amanda got so bad that her family started making a plan to safely get her out. And like I said, Amanda loved music.

• 9:45Kendall Rae?

  So coincidentally, her mom's sister happened to own a bar that was 30 minutes outside of the town. And her bar would have these weekly karaoke nights. So the plan was to get her a job at the bar and have her move into the apartment above it. But as we've talked about in a lot of the cases I've covered that involve domestic violence, it's not as easy as just removing someone, right? You have to be very strategic, you have to work very carefully. And that's exactly what her family had to do, because Fred was becoming more and more dangerous. In fact, in early 2017, there was an incident where he gave her a black eye, and he told her that he was going to kill her. And he would also repeatedly destroy her cellphone, so that she couldn't use it,

• 10:29Kendall Rae?

  you know, try to isolate her as much as possible. And the only way that she could end up communicating with anyone was using his phone after he had gone to sleep. And her sister Shannon only found out about this black eye incident because Amanda was able to take Fred's phone while he was asleep, and she left her a voicemail telling her what happened in the middle of the night. And what made this so difficult, and this is, you know, a situation a lot of people find themselves in, is when Amanda was able to reach out to people, she'd have to tell them not to reply, not to try and get back in touch with her, because of course, she didn't want Fred to know that she was communicating with anyone, especially using his phone. And while I know Shannon wanted to respect that,

• 11:12Kendall Rae?

  she and her mom ultimately decided that they needed to file a police report to get her out of there once and for all.

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• 12:57Kendall Rae?

  However, filing this report sadly didn't amount to much because a deputy did go over to their property to speak with Amanda, but at first she denied what happened, which is so common with survivors of domestic violence. She ended up telling them that the black eye actually came from a hammer that fell down on her face after they were trying to hang up photos. Now, eventually she did tell the truth, and that was only because the deputy explained that her sister was concerned about her. But even after she did so, nothing was done to keep her safe. The deputy explained that the next time Fred did something, that there would be an arrest. But for the time being, Fred was free to go about his life. And it sounds like there were more problems right away,

• 13:42Kendall Rae?

  which is why a lot of survivors of domestic violence don't want to tell the truth because they don't know if they're actually going to be protected and things are going to get worse for them, right? So we don't have specifics on what he did, but according to what Amanda told Shannon, filing this report made bigger problems for her. However, to be clear, Amanda did say that she was thankful for it because at least now police were aware of what he'd been doing, right? However, unfortunately, the police would end up doing absolutely nothing for her in the end. And I say that because on July 11th, 2017, 36-year-old Amanda Dean vanished. And for years after that, despite what I believe

• 14:27Kendall Rae?

  to be an overwhelming amount of evidence against him, Fred Reer went uninvestigated, you guys. Now, on that day, Shannon was the first person to catch wind that something with her sister was wrong. And it was actually Fred's mom who made her worry when she texted her saying that Amanda wasn't in the cabin. Now, I don't know how often his mom would communicate with her family, but I think any messages about Amanda not being there was definitely enough to make them feel concerned. She also said some strange things like she hoped Amanda was okay and that she and Fred just weren't meant to be together. And, you know, they were weird enough messages that Shannon was like, I think my sister might be in trouble here.

• 15:10Kendall Rae?

  So after that, Shannon ends up consulting with her own mom. And that's when she decided to file a missing persons report. So at 4:00 PM on July 11th, deputies with the Huron County Sheriff's Office did respond to the residence and had a conversation with Fred's mother. Although I'm sure nobody will be surprised to hear that very little came from this. She said that she hadn't seen Amanda since Sunday. It was now Tuesday, mind you. And she also said that Fred wasn't home because he was at work. Now, the deputies didn't entirely give up, which, when you hear how much they botched this 24 hours later, that is surprising to me. But after learning very little from Fred's mom,

• 15:53Kendall Rae?

  they proceeded to search a five-square-mile radius for the next two hours. However, there was no sign of Amanda. And their efforts stopped there after just two hours. And then the following day, efforts did pick back up, but this time it was by her friends and family. A group of about seven to 10 people got together on the 12th, and they went back to the rear property to see what they could find. When they got there, though, signs had been put up saying that trespassers would be shot on sight. And the sheriff even reportedly warned them from trying to search near the residence. But thankfully, his neighbors were helpful, and they had no problem with letting them look for Amanda on their properties. And it was actually while they were doing this

• 16:38Kendall Rae?

  that Caroline, her mom, realized that she had missed a call from the sheriff's office. Now, she said she didn't even bother listening to their voicemail. Instead, she just called them straight back, and that's when she was told that they needed her to come into the station. And I'm sure anyone would feel this in a situation like that. But she remembers that in the 20-minute drive over there, it felt like the longest 20 minutes of her life. I mean, there was no telling what the sheriff could have to say to her. You know, her mind is going all over the place to all the worst-case scenarios. But to her relief, it was actually information that was seemingly positive. According to Sheriff Todd Corbin, Amanda was found safe at a women's shelter.

• 17:23Kendall Rae?

  And so honestly, relief was an understatement. They were worried sick about her. And just to know that she was alive and being taken care of, that she was in a safe place, was probably the best news they could have gotten. But there was one caveat. Sheriff Corbin said that he couldn't tell them which shelter she was at. And he also said that they couldn't reach out to her directly. He said that it was up to Amanda to make contact with them. And even still, this information, you know, was good enough for them to feel confident about her safety. And you know, they didn't think much of it at the time because it's no secret that shelters really rely on confidentiality.

• 18:05Kendall Rae?

  And also, they were being told this information by a sheriff. There was really no reason for them not to believe what he was saying. So they took him at his word, and they continued living their lives, just hoping that eventually she would reach out to them when she was ready to do so. But then weeks went by, and then months went by, and then years went by. And there was still no word whatsoever from Amanda. And what absolutely breaks my heart for this family is that over those first few years, they had dropped off birthday letters and Christmas cards all to the sheriff's department, asking them to then pass along their notes to Amanda wherever she was. And for a little while, they thought that Amanda just,

• 18:50Kendall Rae?

  you know, wasn't ready to come home, that maybe she was just sorting some things out in her life. But the truth was, she never received those letters. And her loved ones started to realize that the more time went on. Now, at first, they truly believed that they were just giving Amanda the space that she needed, that they were trying to respect her boundaries, that she was trying to heal. But eventually, her silence just became alarming. And the story the sheriff told them? Yeah, they started to seriously question that. And among all of them, her eldest son Josh was definitely the most optimistic, which is something that he says he really got from his mom. But just to be safe, a few years in,

• 19:33Kendall Rae?

  he began calling local shelters just to ask if it was normal for someone to stay at a shelter for that long. And the response that he got gave him hope. He was told that it wasn't necessarily normal, but it also wasn't unheard of. So he thought, you know, maybe this is really what my mom is doing. And so he clung on to that idea that when his mom was ready, he would finally hear from her. Now, Amanda's mom and her sisters, on the other hand, were much more skeptical, right? They firmly believed that she would not have gone that long without making contact. And therefore, they started pressing the sheriff more for answers. But big shocker here, he was less than helpful, you guys.

• 20:17Kendall Rae?

  Sheriff Corbin was always very casual about their concerns and seemed to just dismiss the red flags that were literally right in front of his face. And so eventually, in late 2022, Caroline, rightfully so, began demanding that he show her some kind of proof of life for her daughter. And if he couldn't, she also demanded that he reopen the investigation. And I'll give you a second to guess if he did that. Nope. There was no effort made from him whatsoever to prove that Amanda was alive. And, you know, even if he did, her family at that point wouldn't have believed it anyway. And they had even hired a P I. A few years back, but nothing came out of that either.

• 20:59Kendall Rae?

  And honestly, they were just growing so, so tired of not being listened to. They really had trouble believing that anyone was actually going to help them at this point. So even when a Cleveland nonprofit reached out to them, they were very wary about accepting their help. Now I gotta say, I'm so glad they ended up deciding to accept that help because without the help of Cleveland Missing and all the connections they made through it, it's possible that justice may have taken quite a bit longer. And I'd love to just take a minute or two here to share more about what they do because it really is such amazing work. Okay, so the Cleveland Family Center for Missing Children and Adults is just an outstanding organization, you guys.

• 21:43Kendall Rae?

  And they're doing the work that families of missing loved ones need so desperately. And what they offer families is just wonderful. They offer a safe place for families to come for support and resources while searching for a loved one. They provide training to law enforcement on engaging with families of missing persons, emphasizing cultural sensitivity and awareness, which is so, so needed. And they also provide coaching and guidance to the general public on how to work with and support families and friends of the missing. Everything from helping with the initial missing persons report through the actual recovery process when possible. They really are a full-service support system for families and walk them through every step of the way,

• 22:27Kendall Rae?

  which is just fantastic. And I haven't heard of a whole lot of organizations like this. I wish this was something accessible to everyone. I want to read you something directly from their website. The Cleveland Family Center draws in the expertise of its board members, which includes law enforcement officials experienced in dealing with abductions, human trafficking and internet crimes. Other board members have backgrounds in trauma, nursing and psychotherapy, allowing the center to provide holistic support to affected families. Additionally, the center maintains a comprehensive and constantly updated database to connect families with the most current resources available. And the best part about this organization is they offer all of that free of charge. I'm going to link their website in the show notes and description box of this episode.

• 23:12Kendall Rae?

  If you're interested in learning more about them and also my team over at Higher Hope is going to offer them an empower grant through my foundation. If they're interested, I'm hoping that can help them continue the great work that they do. But like I was saying, this organization got in contact with the Dean family after a friend first contacted one of their co-founders, Sylvia Colon. And once they started working together, they felt like for the first time in years, someone was actually listening to them and believing them.

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• 24:49Kendall Rae?

  So they jumped right into action, making a plan. And the first step of that plan was ensuring that Amanda's name was actually in the missing persons database. Because for the last five and a half years that she had been missing at this point, it was not. Because after idiot sheriff, Sheriff Corbin, to be precise, told them that Amanda was at the shelter, he just went ahead and removed the BOLO on her and never went through with actually filing the missing persons report. Hmm, interesting. Now, I'm sure most of you know this, but it is absolutely critical for missing people to be listed in the missing persons database, okay?

• 25:32Kendall Rae?

  After all, if someone has information or maybe wants to report a tip, there needs to be a phone number and law enforcement that they can connect with. Now you think it would be simple at this point, especially with how bad they had fucked things up, that they would have easily been able to get her in the missing persons database. But turns out, getting the Huron County Sheriff's Office to actually put Amanda on that list was like getting my toddler to eat her broccoli, basically impossible. It's like if this case couldn't get any more maddening, they really had to make this difficult. Okay, get this. When they went into the sheriff's office to make this request, very simple request.

• 26:16Kendall Rae?

  Sylvia was on speakerphone, listening to the conversation, and she overheard that the family was told they had to prove Amanda was missing. Um, it's literally been five and a half years without anyone in the family or anyone in the world hearing from Amanda, okay? That is the proof. That is all they should have needed. It is absolutely ridiculous. It is a complete joke what this family had to go through, how they were treated. It is just irreprehensible. The fact that it was somehow now their responsibility to prove this is just beyond me. I've never heard of anything like this.

• 26:56Kendall Rae?

  And at the end of the day, this is literally what law enforcement is supposed to fucking do. Like, you've got to be kidding me. Now Sylvia actually ended up just recording this entire conversation, which I'm very grateful for. And at some point, she basically told them like, you know, they're not going to help us clearly. It's, it's time to leave. Let's not waste any more time here. Now thankfully, hope was not lost because it turns out that the New Borough Heights Police Chief, a guy named John Majoy, also happened to be the board president of Cleveland Missing. And when he heard about Amanda's case, he was shocked. And through his line of work, he had contacts at the Ohio BCI.

• 27:37Kendall Rae?

  And he ended up connecting with an agent who was just as surprised at how badly the ball was dropped in this case. And so ultimately, and thankfully, it was decided that the BCI would just take over this case completely. Sheriff Idiot Corbin did have to formally request the takeover, which thankfully he did in December of 2022. And his request reads, "In 2017, my office received a complaint of a missing person, Amanda Dean. I was able to speak with a supervisor of a women's shelter who confirmed she was safe. Since that time, Ms. Dean has not been in contact with her family. Having an outside agency review and possibly continue the case would be greatly appreciated." Basically, I'm too dumb for this. I messed this up so bad and I need help.

• 28:20Kendall Rae?

  Now about a month after the case was handed over to the BCI, family members joined in on a press conference. And really, the hope was to raise awareness and possibly encourage new tips. And they definitely drew a lot of new eyes to her case.

• 28:33Speaker 03

  And we continue our special coverage today. 19 investigates the missing.

• 28:37Speaker 04

  It's been nearly six years, six years now, six tough years since Amanda Dean's family has heard from her. Mom of four disappeared in 2017.

• 28:47Speaker 03

  Of course, her family's still holding out hope that she will come home. They're joining us now, her oldest son Josh and her son David, joining us. Thank you for being here.

• 28:56Speaker 04

  And this is Amanda's mom, Caroline Tokar. And Caroline, of course, you still, you still have hope that we're going to see Amanda again. She was last seen at her boyfriend's home and there was some confusion early on about that. Kind of explain that and take us through that.

• 29:14Speaker 05

  Confusion as to where she was?

• 29:16Speaker 04

  Or just when was the last time that she was seen?

• 29:19Speaker 03

  The sheriffs thought they knew where she was, correct?

• 29:22Speaker 05

  Correct. July 11, 2017. We reported her missing because of an alarming text that my other daughter Shannon had received from this guy's mother. Amanda lived with him on the parents' property.

• 29:41Speaker 05

  And they lived in a cabin. But on July 11, she had sent my daughter Shannon a text saying that, oh, she's gone, you know? Oh, she's no longer in the cabin. Like she was in shock. And she didn't know where she had gone and all that. So Shannon had text, called me and said, told me about the text. I told her to immediately call the sheriff's office. And she did. And the next day, I had contacted the sheriff and I told the sheriff, I said, "I'm going to get a search crew out there, our own search crew, because they didn't even offer to help us." So we went out there and probably about midday, we received a call from the sheriff's office, from one of the deputies,

• 30:23Speaker 05

  saying that we need you to come to the sheriff's office. We have information on Amanda. They had left that message on my voicemail because I missed the call. So I did call them back and they said, "We need you to come here." So I went, but they said, "She's been found and she's safe." So they called off the search, called off the BOLO, everything.

• 30:43Speaker 03

  And there hope, have you heard, is there anything new with the investigation as to where your mom or your daughter could be?

• 30:50Speaker 05

  At this time, BCI is handling the investigation and we don't have an update right now on it, but I am, I am positive they are, it's progressing. The investigation is progressing, so.

• 31:02Kendall Rae?

  And Caroline was right. The BCI was definitely progressing this case further. I mean, just listen to what they managed to uncover. You're seriously not going to believe this. It turns out that on July 12th, 2017, one day after Amanda went missing and the same day that Todd Corbin told her family that she was safe, the Huron County Sheriff's Office received a tip from a woman who stated that Fred Reer had stayed on her dad's property on the night of the 11th. And she stated that this was worrisome because she had heard that Amanda was missing that day and because Fred allegedly threatened to kill her and stuff her body in a blue barrel,

• 31:44Kendall Rae?

  which she knew her father kept empty blue barrels on his property. The caller also mentioned weapons and drug use and even left her phone number for the police to follow up. But of course, they never did. And because they never did, of course, there was so much that they missed, so much that they never uncovered. Now, that was stuff that the BCI managed to uncover within a year and a half of taking over the case. During that time, they determined that, leading up to her disappearance, Amanda was texting a friend, saying that she, of course, wanted out of the relationship. And also, she even told this person to look at Fred if she went missing and also told

• 32:29Kendall Rae?

  her that he had threatened to kill her. Other messages to her sister read, "Hey sis, stole his phone for a min. He works all day from 6 to 5 to 6 p.m. Please, I need some help. He won't get me any food or cigs. He's punishing me for taking the van. Please." And if that's not enough, the Bureau identified a witness who reported that in July of 2017, there was a roadkill-like smell coming from the property and that before she went missing, Amanda often had bruises and was seen fighting with Fred. Oh, and Fred himself wouldn't shut the fuck up, thankfully. And he ended up saying some really incriminating things to multiple people.

• 33:11Kendall Rae?

  He told one witness, a guy named Chad, that you could burn a body and that all you need is a five-gallon drum and to keep feeding the fire. Chad also said that Fred talked about disposing of bones in water because, quote, "Bones don't float." And then another witness reported that Fred had told her that Amanda was in fact dead. He said he woke up one morning and she had just died. And when this person asked why he didn't call 911, Fred said that he panicked. And then he later asked the same woman, quote, "Do you know what it's like to cut through human bone?" Now, if that doesn't convince you, one guy named Gerald said that he witnessed Amanda

• 33:51Kendall Rae?

  and Fred fighting at the cabin in July of 2017, and later he saw a bloody mattress inside the cabin, as well as bloody rags and blood in a bucket. Also, carpet had been reportedly removed from the cabin shortly after that. One witness even reportedly said that Fred was burning things in a burn pile for days. And the belief was that this was Amanda and that he then took her remains to a nearby creek. When it comes to kids, I have learned as a parent that it is truly all about the routine. And a huge part of our nightly routine in our house is my daughter taking her HIA vitamins,

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• 36:02Kendall Rae?

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• 36:44Kendall Rae?

  who could say they saw something that pointed to her being murdered, that would have been absolutely critical in those early days and weeks following her disappearance. Had Sheriff Corbin and his deputies actually done their job and looked further into this case, it's very likely that justice would not have been delayed. And it's even more likely, in my opinion, and I think most of you are going to agree when we get to this part later on, but I think Fred would have received a much longer sentence than he did. But instead, this sheriff's office pushed this whole Amanda is safe narrative, even when in reality, it appears as though there was no actual proof for that whatsoever.

• 37:27Kendall Rae?

  Now, I have no clue if he was just incompetent beyond belief and should have never been a sheriff. I mean, that part I do know, he should have never been a sheriff. But I don't know, on the other hand, what motive he would have had to lie about this if that really was the case. And Amanda's family certainly doesn't understand it either. And I personally do lean towards he lied about this. And a huge reason that I believe that is because, as it currently stands, there is no proof they've been able to provide, or at least that we know of, that their office ever received a call from a shelter. There are multiple claims that they got a call, but the public has yet to see any documented proof of this call.

• 38:12Kendall Rae?

  I'll dive more into that later, but yeah, it makes no sense why this narrative was pushed so heavily. And this sheriff's office even had a second chance to look into the case once again, six months after her disappearance, because it turns out that in January of 2018, the Charleston County DA's office was looking for Amanda because they wanted her to testify against her ex-boyfriend, Tom, who I mentioned earlier in the episode. And it was because he was up for parole and her testimony could help keep him behind bars for the rest of his life. So when they called Amanda's family looking for her, they explained that she had been missing since July, and they told them, you know, you should try talking to the sheriff's

• 38:56Kendall Rae?

  office, see if they can help you. Apparently though, after, of course, failing to initially follow up, Todd Corbin once again said that she was safe in a shelter. Now, just think about this for a second. You would hope, right, that a sheriff, a sheriff of all people, truly cared about justice. And you would think that someone who does truly care about justice would at least contact this so-called shelter that we don't even know if it exists to let them know that, you know, Charleston Police want to talk to Amanda and let her decide if she would like to testify. But he, of course, did not do that.

• 39:37Kendall Rae?

  And so her case continued to sit uninvestigated, under the false pretense that she was okay. Now, fast forward again to 2023 because the BCI was finally getting to the truth. Agents spent that year collecting all of the evidence. And finally, in November of 2023, they served a search warrant on the Reer property. They brought in cadaver dogs and excavators, and they even spoke with Fred's brother, who despite being mostly non-verbal as a result of his autism, he was quite helpful and they managed to learn from him that Amanda may have been strangled because he actually gestured to his neck when they asked what happened in the cabin. And the footage of it, it's very eerie, very upsetting, and really telling.

• 40:20Speaker 06

  Are you okay? Paul, can you show me where Amanda stayed when she was here? So here? Yeah. Amanda stayed here? Yeah. Okay. Who else? Did Fred stay here? Yeah. Fred stayed here. Where was the bedroom? Uh... Do you know? Uh... Back there? Yeah.

• 40:40Speaker 07

  We don't have nothing bad to say. He would never harm anybody, he was a little hot.

• 40:44Speaker 06

  What happened in the camper? Uh...

• 40:49Kendall Rae?

  Now, unfortunately, and this wasn't surprising to me, nothing of evidentiary value was found on the property. I mean, think about it. A lot of time had passed at this point, and it's hard to imagine that anything would have been left behind. But, boy, they did try. They even brought in local anthropology students to search 1,000 feet of a nearby creek after one tip about him possibly leaving her bones there. But body or no body, the BCI was confident that they had enough to make an arrest. And so on February 9th of 2024, Fred was taken into custody.

• 41:26Speaker 07

  You got some shoes? Yeah, I know. Okay. What's up? I have a warrant for your arrest. I need to get some shoes. Can you get some gloves for me, Amanda? Why don't you stay right here? You got anything with you? Yeah. Okay. Why do I have a warrant for my arrest? Yeah. I said, why? Uh, why do you think? What have we been talking about? Well, what's going on? I mean, what's... I'll wait for your mom to come out so I can, I won't have to explain it once. Yes, sir. I've got an arrest warrant for your son. Okay. Okay. Call his lawyer then.

• 42:02Kendall Rae?

  And of course, Fred's arrest marked a massive milestone on the road to getting justice for Amanda. This was huge for their family. However, this was not the end. He was indicted on charges of murder, gross abuse of a corpse, and four counts of tampering with evidence. But what they had against him was all circumstantial. And as we know, circumstantial evidence and also not having a body does make getting a conviction harder. Not impossible, but it's definitely not easy. So when preparing for the trial, prosecutors had a lot to consider, such as could they prove murder with the circumstantial evidence? Would all the witnesses be willing to testify? And how difficult would it be for Amanda's family to sit through

• 42:46Kendall Rae?

  a trial? Now, ultimately, they did believe that the evidence would show that Fred murdered Amanda, that he dismembered her, burned her, and put the rest of her remains in a river. But could they convince a jury of that? And in the end, they came to the decision that proceeding with a trial was not the best option. And so with consent from Amanda's family, instead, a plea agreement was reached. Fred was given what's called a proffer, where in exchange for telling the truth, the information was not used against him. He even took police to the creek where he dumped her remains and told them exactly what he did to her. And by December of 2025, Fred pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter

• 43:29Kendall Rae?

  instead of the initial charge of murder. He would still face two counts of tampering with evidence and one count of gross abuse of a corpse, but that would mean a reduced sentence.

• 43:39Speaker 06

  Here's now to some new developments tonight in the Amanda Dean case out of Huron County. This is a story that we have been following since 2017.

• 43:46Speaker 07

  Now, her boyfriend Frederick Reer has pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter and other felonies. Reer had been facing charges in Dean's death and disappearance, including two counts of tampering with evidence and gross abuse of a corpse. According to investigators, Dean was last heard from in July of 2017 in Townsend Township. She had texted her sister and discussed her plan to leave Reer, whom she was dating at the time. Her family filed a missing persons report, which the Huron County Sheriff canceled a day later, telling Dean's family that she was in a safe house. Well, after still not hearing from her, Dean's family fought to have the case reopened. Then in February of last year, Reer was indicted. Dean's body has never been found. Reer will be sentenced

• 44:31Speaker 07

  coming up on January the 5th. And in a statement today, Dean's family said, quote, "Today's guilty plea was the next steps toward getting Amanda justice after a very long and painful process."

• 44:42Kendall Rae?

  Not long after his guilty plea in January of 2026, Fred was back in court for sentencing, and the courtroom was absolutely flooded with loved ones holding images of Amanda. It was super powerful. And the reason that they held so many photos of her up was that they wanted to be sure that the last thing Fred saw was the face that he stole from them and to remind him that she was unforgettable. Unforgettable was actually something she referred to herself as. So it's something that the family carried on after her death. And when I saw the courtroom footage of Fred, I was enraged. The remorseless look on this piece

• 45:22Kendall Rae?

  of shit's face makes me just want to punch a wall, preferably him, but I'll never get the chance to do that. This man looked like he couldn't have cared less to be there, like he was completely unbothered by having to listen to her family speak and to face reality of what he had done. And he gave one of the most half-assed apologies I have ever seen. I would be so offended to be one of her loved ones having to listen to that shit. Does the defendant wish to arrest the court?

• 45:56Kendall Rae?

  Well, Judge, sir, I would just like to say I'm sorry to Dean's family, sorry to my family, sorry to the community, and thank you, Your Honor, Judge. I appreciate your time.

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• 47:56Kendall Rae?

  Now, Amanda's family was given the chance to give victim impact statements, and man, their words absolutely shattered me. Her mom says that she feels like sometimes she failed to protect her daughter, but she also did say that she felt like Amanda was with her in the courtroom that day. And here's what she had to say to Fred directly.

• 48:15Speaker 05

  Our family has endured unimaginable amount of pain during this time. Words cannot describe our pain, our suffering, our pain. To Fred Reer. No, go to the judge. I cannot begin to describe the magnitude of what you took away when you killed my daughter. You took her away from all of us. Four sons must live without their mother.

• 48:46Speaker 05

  There'll be no more life to share with her. Birthdays, holidays, phone calls, family, special events, first one-on-one conversations, a day and night of tears. Those things can no longer be shared because of you. Why, Fred? Why? How could you do this to someone you claim to love? How could any human being do this to another person? You took her life, you took her freedom. Why do you think you deserve anything different? You took away her chance to live and love and have hope. You took away every chance I had to share

• 49:30Speaker 05

  with her, a special mother and daughter time, with Amanda to go shopping, to work in the garden, which she loved, and talk on the phone. Our shared special moments and holidays

• 49:47Speaker 05

  together. Amanda is and was my daughter first. Amanda was nothing short of an angel. She was a beautiful daughter, and I miss her so much. It makes me physically ill. It is unbearable when I think about what you did to her body. How dare you desecrate her body? You are pure evil, Fred Reer. I hope that when you look at these pictures of our Amanda, that you can see the life that was in her that you destroyed. You killed her. You dismembered her, and you burned her precious body for days. But you did not kill her spirit, because

• 50:30Speaker 05

  her spirit was with each of us. I hope you feel her right now in this courtroom with her boys as they stand bravely but tearfully before you. She's here, and she knows what you did to her, Fred Reer. And you know too.

• 50:48Kendall Rae?

  And here are statements from her three youngest boys, and some of them were read by others on their behalf.

• 50:54Speaker 06

  Amanda, I'm speaking on behalf of Sam, Amanda's son. Yes. I struggle to express what I feel in losing my mom. I'm deeply angry for the years of thinking my mom had abandoned us, my brother and I. But she had not left us willingly. You killed her. I will never get another day with my mother because of you and your heinous actions. I can't ask my mom for advice or help or for a hug. She's gone. My life forever changed the day you killed her. I only wish the worst for you. I hope you remember every detail of what you did to her, every hour of every day, until your life is over. I ask you, Judge Conway, that Fred Reer be sentenced the maximum sentence

• 51:37Speaker 06

  allowable under the law. Anything else would be unfair to myself and my brothers, my grandma, and our family. My mother was not shown any mercy. Why should he be? I request the maximum amount of prison time.

• 51:52Speaker 07

  Hello? I'm David Dean, son of Amanda. I struggled to figure out what I wanted to say on the stand. It's just hard not having her around. And thanks to him, I'll never have a piece of her with me ever again. I spent a lot of time thinking about this, but I really don't have anything else to say. It's just gonna hurt for the rest of my life. Yeah, it was difficult. I appreciate you being here.

• 52:30Speaker 07

  Chief John Madroid to speak on behalf of one of the sons. These are the words from Jacob Dean to this court. I'm not really good with words, so I'll keep this short. She wasn't really around much, but I know she She loved me. She loved every one of my brothers and it hurts to know that she won't be able to see me when I get married, start a family, or just be there for me when I need her the most. That's all I ever wanted was to see her. I wanted to know she was proud of me and what I've accomplished in life so far. And that will never happen because of that man.

• 53:15Speaker 07

  He robbed me and her of the love I could have gotten from her. I'm not the one to say how I feel or really express it. I just wish he was here. I wish I could see her, but that will never happen because of that man. I just want my mother back. But that can never happen. I just wanted to tell her how much I loved and cared about her. I know that one day I will be able to see her again, and when that day comes, I'll be ready. I love you, Mom. Rest in peace with the angels above. I will always remember you. Love you, Mom, forever and always. Jacob.

• 53:57Kendall Rae?

  Josh was the last of her sons to speak, and I really appreciated him calling out the fact that Fred looked like he wanted to be anywhere else but there.

• 54:04Speaker 07

  From what I can see, we've been here almost, we've been here over a year. And unfortunately, I've looked over there every single time, and he shows no remorse for anything that he's done. He acts like he could care less to be here. He'd rather talk about the books in jail than trying to fight and prove that what he did or didn't do. I hope you give him an X. It's what he deserves. I wish I could say I'm sad today. I'm not. I'm angry that we've had to go through this all this time and am still just not care,

• 54:49Speaker 07

  not act like he could ever care about anything. And my brothers won't. We don't have that anymore. We don't have a mom to go to. She was the first person I went to when I was upset, depressed, sad, anything like that. She was the first person I went to. I don't have that anymore. She never saw any of us graduate. My brothers are still in middle school and freshmen's in high school. I have just graduated. She wasn't able to make it to that. She wasn't, she's not gonna be able to make it when we get married. She's not gonna be able to see any of her grandkids when we have them.

• 55:33Speaker 07

  I have some right now. I have kids. She won't be able to see that over the years that we've been coming to these every single time. He sits there, rolls his eyes, acts like he's, I don't know. I'm sorry. It frustrates me that it's taken this long. I love and miss my mom. She was my best friend. And it hurts knowing that none of my brothers will get to see her ever again. I won't be able to see her ever again.

• 56:12Speaker 07

  No one will be able to see her ever again, and he acts like it's fine, even right now. He's just looking down. He's acting like he could care less. That's it. I'm sorry. I appreciate your time.

• 56:29Kendall Rae?

  And when you hear Fred's sentence, you're going to be so angry, so angry. It is just absolutely ridiculous. It is so offensive. When all was said and done, Fred Reer was ultimately sentenced to 14 years in prison out of the 18 total that he faced. And him not receiving the full 18 years is just beyond me. That was totally insane. I understand that the judge was just doing his job, but 14 years for the way he violently killed Amanda and also got rid of her body will just never be enough. And again, like I said earlier, and I'm sure most of you will agree with me, I strongly

• 57:10Kendall Rae?

  believe that if the sheriff's office had actually done their duty from the beginning, that this monster would have likely gotten life in prison, even if they couldn't find Amanda's remains, which definitely would have been a possibility. I think there still would have been plenty more physical evidence in and around his property. And I know that her family was very disappointed and rightfully so, super angry that more couldn't be done. And they called this outcome a slap on the wrist. And yeah, I couldn't agree more. There's nothing quite like having pieces in your closet that you know you love, you

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• 1:00:00Kendall Rae?

  What an absolute joke. Amanda's loved ones will never be able to see her again, and here he is facing 14 years and he wants a hug from his mommy? Shut the fuck up. That is so pathetic. I would be so pissed if I were their family, and I know they are, and they have every right to be. This was just so despicable, this entire case from start to finish in so many ways. I will say, though, they have inspired me so much in the way that they have done such a fantastic job trying to really keep the focus on Amanda and not this rat of a human who took her life.

• 1:00:36Speaker 05

  I think it is time to process what has just happened. But you have to understand, we've been processing it for a long time, what happened to Amanda. And just missing her and just knowing that she's not gonna walk through that door ever again. But I know that she would want us to do something to honor her. You know, she went through a lot. And I just don't want no one to live, a family to go through what we went through and have to fight for answers. So I am grateful that we're at this point now. It is some, you know, relief to us that he's not walking out there and doing it to somebody

• 1:01:21Speaker 05

  else, but there's so much more work to do. We wanna, we wanna have something in April to, my daughter Stephanie is planning on something for a memorial for her. So we... We're gonna continue, you know, Amanda will always be with us, always. He couldn't take that away, our memories, her spirit. She lives with us. So, but we'll continue on, we'll try and do good things in Amanda's name.

• 1:01:51Kendall Rae?

  And they have done something incredible in her name. Since his sentencing, her family started working on the Amanda Dean law. Now, this law seeks to bring harsher sentencing penalties for offenders who dismember, mutilate, or intentionally disfigure a human corpse in the state of Ohio. And at the time of his arrest, the maximum penalty you could get for gross abuse of a corpse in Ohio was one year. Okay, one year. But with Amanda Dean's law, they aim to raise this punishment to up to eight years in prison. Of course, her family knows that this won't change Fred's outcome, unfortunately, but their goal is to prevent future offenders from receiving minimal punishments for such violent acts. And I'm happy to tell you that this bill actually passed in the Ohio House in June

• 1:02:36Kendall Rae?

  of 2026, and it's currently moving through the Ohio Senate. And that's not where their efforts end. I think you guys will all be as thrilled as I was to hear that the Dean family is suing Sheriff Todd Corbin, as well as several other deputies. According to this lawsuit, they seek to hold these parties accountable for, quote, "years of uncertainty, worry, stress, damage to their reputation, and distress that the defendants recklessly made false and misleading statements caused." They are also seeking accountability for, quote, "justice delayed to them and for egregious breach of public trust," as well as accountability for the HCSO's decision to allow a murderer to walk free in their community for half a decade, while falsely and recklessly telling

• 1:03:19Kendall Rae?

  the Dean family and the public that there was no crime to investigate. Now, in this lawsuit, it alleges that Sheriff Corbin either never actually spoke to anyone who said Amanda was safe in this shelter, or never followed up to see if that was actually true. And the only documented proof of her safety, according to the lawsuit, are messages that he sent his own deputies saying that she was. So it all came from him. Here's a quote, okay? "Upon information and belief, neither defendant Corbin nor any member of the HCSO have made any efforts since July 2017 to locate Amanda Dean.

• 1:04:00Kendall Rae?

  Defendant Corbin never received any information from a domestic violence shelter as to her location, and neither the defendants nor HCSO staff had ever followed up with any shelters in an attempt to locate Amanda Dean since the summer of 2017." The lawsuit further goes on to state that her family was given years' worth of false assurances, and alleges that the domestic violence report filed the January before her murder was mishandled. They argue that Sheriff Corbin falsely claimed an arrest could not be made then because she didn't fill out a statement and because she claimed her injuries were caused by a falling hammer. However, a report from the sheriff's office proves that Amanda admitted to being a victim

• 1:04:43Kendall Rae?

  of domestic violence, and Ohio law had no requirement that a victim write a statement if the officer has reasonable grounds to believe the offense has been committed. And the motive for all of this? According to the lawsuit, it was that the sheriff's office wanted to hide its mishandling of her DB case, and that Todd Corbin, who had just been elected, wanted to protect his reputation and reelection chances. The damages the Dean family claims includes damage and loss of reputation, depression, insomnia, severe stress, mental anguish, pain and suffering, suicidal ideation, the cost of their own search, as well as lost Social Security survivor benefits her sons would have received.

• 1:05:28Kendall Rae?

  And I'm gonna have that lawsuit linked in the show notes and description box of this episode in case you wanna look at it yourself and, you know, try and understand the specifics a little bit more. Currently, the case is still open in federal court, and no shock here, but Sheriff Corbin and the other defendants deny wrongdoing. I have read that there is a trial scheduled at this point for May of 2027, so I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see what the outcome of that ends up being, if it's not delayed. And clearly, I am behind and rooting for the Dean family 100% in all of this, because what they have had to live through is absolutely outrageous. It is so infuriating to think about. And speaking of outrageous, it gets worse, and I wanted to mention this before wrapping

• 1:06:13Kendall Rae?

  up. It turns out that Frederick Reer is currently a person of interest in two Florida cold cases. It turns out that after he murdered Amanda, Fred left the state of Ohio temporarily, and he moved to Florida. And on March 31, 2018, a man named Joseph Andrew Phillips disappeared from Gandy Beach after being driven up there to look for his missing cellphone by Fred. He and Fred, I guess, worked and lived on the same property, and though he acknowledged having driven Joseph to the beach late that night, he denies being involved in his disappearance. Additionally, in 2020, his former business partner, Paul Sueslin, was found dead in his Tampa-area home.

• 1:06:58Kendall Rae?

  However, his case remains unsolved. Now, of course, I can't legally say with any certainty, or just at all, that he was involved in either of these cases. He's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. But I know one thing's for sure, is that the hope is that Fred will open his mouth again and say something to incriminate himself the same way that he did in Amanda's case. But what I can say with confidence is Amanda's murder was an absolute tragedy, and it's one that I think could have absolutely been prevented. The bottom line is the sheriff's office had information they needed to arrest Fred months before she was killed, and in that time, her family could have safely removed her

• 1:07:43Kendall Rae?

  from his presence. Of course, I can't say that for sure, but I think that likely would have been the case, that if they had acted initially, she could still be here today. But instead, they're left mourning her loss. They have been very vocal about wanting to raise awareness about Amanda's case and for domestic violence, because even if Amanda couldn't be saved, they know that others can. And as always in cases of this nature, I'm gonna provide you with resources in the show notes and description box of this episode. And just remember that seeking help is not a one-size-fits-all solution, but there are professionals out there who can help you with your unique situation. And Amanda will continue to be remembered for her spirited attitude and for all the life that she left and those she loved.

• 1:08:27Kendall Rae?

  Her kids say that they each have a little piece of her inside them, and I thought that was really, really beautiful. Her mom also visits the creek where her remains were dumped to try and connect with her. And God, just, ah, it's so upsetting. Fred just stole so much from this family, but one thing I can confidently say is that he did not steal her light. I'm very, very happy and overwhelmed that we have a new baby. I have a new baby niece, so I wish the best and... Well, do we wanna take a picture of you and baby? Very beautiful. Um, Steph, I have done my best to take Steph and her baby's photo.

• 1:09:09Kendall Rae?

  That is gonna be it for me today, you guys. Thank you so much for joining me for today's episode, and I'll be back next week to talk about another case. And until then, stay safe out there.

• 1:09:39Kendall Rae?

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