A TOP’S PRIORITY Ft. Anania | Episode 205

Anania is back on the show this week!! Drew and Anania talk Heated rivalry, the stranger things finale, the rise of Anania’s show Gaydar, dream Broadway roles, their planned sitcom, getting famous white male actors confused, and so much more. Anania IG: https://www.instagram.com/anania00/ Anania Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@anania00?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en4:34 https://zatv.slack.com/archives/D08JQ80QM7D/p1768955676405509 eBay is the place for pre-loved and vintage fashion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 0:06Speaker 01

  Love the crown molding.

• 0:08Speaker 00

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 0:12Speaker 01

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet.

• 0:16Speaker 00

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 0:19Speaker 01

  No FiOS? Yeah, no thank you.

• 0:23Speaker 00

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay, bye-bye.

• 0:25Speaker 02

  Get Verizon FiOS, because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.

• 0:32Speaker 03

  I'm not going to the Gladiator for the plot. Take your shirt off and stab him.

• 0:37Drew Afualo?

  Hurry up.

• 0:37Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 0:38Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to see some tits immediately.

• 0:40Speaker 03

  Immediately.

• 0:48Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Sorry, me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest. Today, we have an iconic all-star, the one, the only, the iconic, the talented Anania.

• 1:04Drew Afualo?

  You're not better than me.

• 1:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:06Drew Afualo?

  Go ahead.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:07Drew Afualo?

  Go ahead and take that down.

• 1:08Speaker 03

  I live for that. You better. It's like prison in here. I live for it. I live. Hate this thing.

• 1:12Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, I'm so happy to see you.

• 1:14Speaker 03

  It's nice to see you.

• 1:15Drew Afualo?

  You are a sight for sore eyes, I'll say that much.

• 1:17Speaker 03

  I'll take it.

• 1:18Drew Afualo?

  You look great.

• 1:18Speaker 03

  I'll take it, thank you.

• 1:19Drew Afualo?

  You look fantastic, how are you?

• 1:20Speaker 03

  It's been a while since I've been back here.

• 1:22Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 1:22Speaker 03

  I like what you've done with the place.

• 1:24Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:25Speaker 03

  Very orange.

• 1:26Drew Afualo?

  Low-key real wall.

• 1:27Speaker 03

  Low-key winly.

• 1:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:29Speaker 03

  I just learned what that was like three days ago, and I keep stemming on it. I can't.

• 1:32Drew Afualo?

  You have to.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  Stemming on it? Are the girls saying stemming on it?

• 1:35Drew Afualo?

  Like bouncing on it, but stimming on it? That's funny.

• 1:38Speaker 03

  I kind of live for that. I kind of live for that. There's something there.

• 1:42Drew Afualo?

  That kind of reminds me, hold on, I have so many things I want to talk about with you.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:46Drew Afualo?

  But one thing specifically is your Anania roundups, like, of your tweets. Those are like some of my favorite posts, and I quote.

• 1:54Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:54Drew Afualo?

  I quote this one all the time. In fact, I told The Washington Post this about you, because they asked me questions about you.

• 1:58Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  Wait, thank you for doing that.

• 2:00Drew Afualo?

  Of course.

• 2:01Speaker 03

  I didn't know who the fuck they were gonna choose.

• 2:02Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, anything for you.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  Okay, thank you.

• 2:04Drew Afualo?

  I wrote them an essay, hopefully they use the whole thing. But in there, I literally wrote how one of your tweets that I remember to this day all the time is you said, "If Tupac Shakur was alive today, he would be he-they-down."

• 2:18Drew Afualo?

  It's imprinted behind my eyelids. I literally go to sleep thinking about it. When I think about it, I go.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  He they would. You know what?

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  You know what?

• 2:26Speaker 03

  It's actually kind of dangerous, my oracle abilities. Because I tweeted, I tweeted, and this is crazy, this is crazy. I tweeted, "I think D'Angelo, the singer,

• 2:33Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  is bisexual. Three weeks later, he died."

• 2:38Drew Afualo?

  Now, who says God doesn't hate gay people?

• 2:42Speaker 03

  Me. It was me who said it.

• 2:45Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  It was in the tweet roundup. Yeah.

• 2:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're awful.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  So just watch out.

• 2:49Drew Afualo?

  Your third eye is too powerful.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  If I think you queer, I don't, I don't, hey.

• 2:52Drew Afualo?

  Who knows?

• 2:53Speaker 03

  Who knows what might happen?

• 2:54Drew Afualo?

  You should already be dead, just in case.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  But Rip D'Angelo, I love you.

• 2:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I do, I did love D'Angelo, too.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  I, when I was like, okay, when I found out that he died, I was like, okay, 2025 has to come to a close.

• 3:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 3:05Speaker 03

  If anybody else.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  Wrap it up.

• 3:07Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 3:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we can't have that.

• 3:08Speaker 03

  Also been thinking about how like, Eartha Kitt and Tina Turner needed to wake their ass up. We need you, girls.

• 3:13Drew Afualo?

  We need it.

• 3:13Speaker 03

  We need you.

• 3:14Drew Afualo?

  We need it desperately.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  If you're watching this, Tina and Eartha, come on, come on the show.

• 3:18Drew Afualo?

  Just come on the show.

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Come on the show. Come defend yourselves.

• 3:21Drew Afualo?

  Well, speaking of coming on the show, you're here. What's new with you?

• 3:25Speaker 03

  You know?

• 3:25Drew Afualo?

  You've been busy. You've been a busy, busy girl.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  I've been a busy, busy girl, which is nice. I feel like everybody wants me.

• 3:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  I'm like a, like a lamb in the middle of wolves.

• 3:35Drew Afualo?

  It's about time, shit.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  You know? Yeah, I've just been really busy. I closed an Off-Broadway musical not too long ago.

• 3:42Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 3:42Speaker 03

  I, uh.

• 3:44Drew Afualo?

  Please tell me about it. I want to know all about it.

• 3:45Speaker 03

  Saturday Church.

• 3:45Drew Afualo?

  Yes, how was it?

• 3:47Speaker 03

  It was at the New York Theatre Workshop in New York. It was really, really fun. It's this new musical and I was able to like originate a role. And it was just like so much fun about, like, I just felt like a part of community and I was like pushing myself artistically. It was great. And, you know, like, that's the things that I want to be doing with my life, so.

• 4:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely. You are meant for the stage.

• 4:06Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 4:07Drew Afualo?

  The voice alone, mama.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  Stop!

• 4:09Drew Afualo?

  It's destined for greatness.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Thank you. Um, and then I produced a holiday show this past Christmas.

• 4:15Drew Afualo?

  One woman show?

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Holiday, this past holiday.

• 4:18Drew Afualo?

  Careful. Phew, dodged a bullet there. That was a close one. You could feel them revving up.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  I feel them chomping on my ankles. Yeah, I produced a holiday show and this was at the Huntington Theater in Boston and it sold out, which was really exciting. Yeah, and now I'm just biding my time until I can announce my next thing. But I don't know when this episode will come out in relation to it. Check, check my page and see if there's something cool going on.

• 4:43Drew Afualo?

  If you follow Anna and I, you'll find it, obviously.

• 4:45Speaker 03

  There might be something cool that might happen before or after this. Just, I'm cooking locuinly.

• 4:53Speaker 03

  Is that how you say it?

• 4:53Drew Afualo?

  That's all you need to know. I have no clue, to be quite honest with you.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  It's low-key and genuinely, right?

• 4:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think, I've seen it spelled out. I have no idea how to pronounce it. And I don't want to humiliate myself trying, but like, it's something like that, yeah.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Locuit, genuinely, innuently, locuinually?

• 5:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you know what?

• 5:09Speaker 03

  That's not right.

• 5:09Drew Afualo?

  You know what? Yeah, who's gonna correct us?

• 5:11Speaker 03

  Period.

• 5:12Drew Afualo?

  Who gonna check us?

• 5:13Speaker 03

  Period.

• 5:14Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. That is the pronunciation. Also, I know you went to the Tonys.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  I did go to the Tonys last year.

• 5:20Drew Afualo?

  How was the Tonys?

• 5:21Speaker 03

  I actually lived for it and I, I, okay, I was like, okay, they're inviting a bunch of influencers and you know how sometimes they're like, put the influen, they'll invite you, but you are, you're in the rafters.

• 5:32Drew Afualo?

  Girl, you're telling me. Yeah, seat fillers have better seats than us, honestly. Like, every time.

• 5:37Speaker 03

  I was like, whoa, I saw some of my friends, I was like, did y'all go?

• 5:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:41Speaker 03

  Did you see it?

• 5:42Drew Afualo?

  I'd be closer if I was at home, watching it from the TV.

• 5:45Speaker 03

  Exactly. There's a more immersive experience to be had.

• 5:48Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 5:49Speaker 03

  They put me in the front row of the mezzanine.

• 5:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god.

• 5:52Speaker 03

  So I had every single, and mind you, Audra McDonald went up there, snot, blubbering, tears. I felt like I was, I felt like I could hug her. I said, ho, ho, help her. She didn't win the Tony, but that's okay.

• 6:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's all right.

• 6:03Speaker 03

  We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that behind a paywall.

• 6:07Drew Afualo?

  About how upsetting that was.

• 6:08Speaker 03

  That was sad.

• 6:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it was.

• 6:10Speaker 03

  Did we watch the same thing? Are you a musical girl?

• 6:12Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I love theater. I've talked to Dylan Mulvaney about it a lot.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 6:16Drew Afualo?

  Because when we gag about theater, she's like, oh my god, you're for real. Because I was telling her about Cynthia Revo. Obviously, I love Cynthia and she's amazing. But I said I used to watch it, which obviously, her role as Seeley is

• 6:27Drew Afualo?

  The color purple was the first time I watched her like for real for real on Broadway. And I said her performing, I'm here at the 2016 Tonys. I had that on a loop in my house bitch. And she was like, oh my god, you're fucking for real. And I was like, of course I'm for real. I love theater, I just don't have the chops.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  Cynthia Revo does this thing where she sings so fucking well.

• 6:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 6:47Speaker 03

  Where when you hear it one time, you need it again. And then you need it again.

• 6:51Drew Afualo?

  I'm addicted to her.

• 6:52Speaker 03

  And then you're on like a 40 minute rabbit hole. And you're like, wow, I can't believe she's saying it like that. And then you go back and you go back to the most replay.

• 6:59Drew Afualo?

  And and and if I may speak.

• 7:01Speaker 03

  Please.

• 7:01Drew Afualo?

  When she sings, when she sings like that.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:04Drew Afualo?

  When she sings like that, I believe in a higher power.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Amen.

• 7:07Drew Afualo?

  I said, there's no way it can exist.

• 7:12Drew Afualo?

  I was like, there has to be a higher power of some sort.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Hallelujah.

• 7:16Drew Afualo?

  Because she's anointed.

• 7:17Speaker 03

  Amen.

• 7:17Drew Afualo?

  Amen.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  Whatever she has, I need her larynx.

• 7:21Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  I'm gonna.

• 7:22Drew Afualo?

  I feel like that picture of Ursula like sucking it into the shell. I'm like, give it to me.

• 7:27Speaker 03

  Need that.

• 7:28Drew Afualo?

  Give it to me, give it to me, give it to me.

• 7:29Speaker 03

  It's also just like if I sounded like that, I would never shut the fuck up.

• 7:31Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  You bitches wouldn't even know me.

• 7:33Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I literally.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  You bitches wouldn't even know me.

• 7:38Drew Afualo?

  I said before, I would be, I would grow 10 times the size of this building. I would be, I would be unbearable, honestly.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  She's the sweetest person ever.

• 7:47Drew Afualo?

  She is the nicest and she's funny as fuck.

• 7:49Speaker 03

  Funny.

• 7:50Drew Afualo?

  I joked with her when she was on the show, I made a joke about her. I was like, oh, you're like being kept away in a tower like Rapunzel. And she was like, careful with that. She's bald. My bad, girl. Bald by choice, though. Power bald.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  When you did that episode as Alpha Bob, I was, there was something to me that was like, I'm happy that she didn't do that in front of Cynthia.

• 8:12Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  But then I'm also mad that you didn't do that in front of Cynthia.

• 8:15Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, wow, that's crazy. We, I thought we were gonna match today.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  Twice, we'll talk about it.

• 8:19Drew Afualo?

  I could have, you know what? It's okay. I honestly, I get a lot of comments about looking good green, which feels like shade, low key. He's like, you look so much better like that.

• 8:28Speaker 03

  Someone said better?

• 8:29Drew Afualo?

  Well, hmm.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  They said.

• 8:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they're like, you should always look like that, you know? We get a lot of backhanded compliments, especially as, as big, powerful women.

• 8:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 8:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like the, the things they consider a compliment to me, mama.

• 8:44Speaker 03

  This, it's called the comment section. Somebody, I was talking, heated rivalry. I was talking about, I tweeted that the Hudson and Connor, they weren't gonna come on Gadar because they are too busy. And then somebody was like, oh, I can't believe it's not their top priority. Like, this is gay, blah, blah, blah. They were like, come on, get on Gadar, blah, blah, blah. Someone commented, when has Anna and I ever been a tops priority?

• 9:09Drew Afualo?

  Right, okay. So that's one that makes me think for a bit.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  I said, what the fuck?

• 9:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Fuck 50, what I do?

• 9:21Speaker 03

  If it wasn't funny, I'd block.

• 9:24Speaker 03

  If it wasn't funny, I'd be like, damn, you know what?

• 9:26Drew Afualo?

  That's my rule of thumb, too.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  But I was like...

• 9:31Drew Afualo?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  That can't be me.

• 9:37Drew Afualo?

  What are your thoughts on heated rivalry?

• 9:39Speaker 03

  What are my thoughts on heated rivalry?

• 9:40Drew Afualo?

  I would love to know them.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  They got it so right. They got it so right. They got it so right.

• 9:45Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm happy to hear that. All my gay friends are telling me that.

• 9:48Speaker 03

  I started, I feel like I got into...

• 9:54Speaker 03

  Sorry. Something came over me. I feel like I got into the fandom a little later. I started watching when episode four was gonna come out.

• 10:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay, too.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  So I was like catching up. I was like, what are these, you know, what are these gay people?

• 10:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:07Speaker 03

  Talking about...

• 10:08Drew Afualo?

  On my television.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  On my time.

• 10:09Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 10:12Speaker 03

  And I went to go see it and I was like, oh, I was the target, I was the target demographic. The whole time.

• 10:16Drew Afualo?

  Target audience reach.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Whole time. This show was meant for moi. I thought they, they did it so fucking well. And I just think it's like such a, um... I talked about this. I, by the end of the show, there's this moment, spoiler alert!

• 10:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  It's been out for a while, if you wanna... There's this moment when Shane's dad catches them in the cabin, in the cottage.

• 10:40Drew Afualo?

  Oh, tea.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  And my, my ass thought it was a horror movie. I was like, oh my god, oh my god, hide the knives.

• 10:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  They're gonna get shot, tabloids, TMZ, you know what I mean?

• 10:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 10:52Speaker 03

  But then the dad was just surprised.

• 10:54Drew Afualo?

  Like a normal dad would be.

• 10:56Speaker 03

  Like a normal dad. I was like, wait a minute, they're not gonna die?

• 11:00Drew Afualo?

  You said, now I can't watch because this is fantasy now.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  It's just fa... If gay people aren't dying, something's wrong.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Something is wrong.

• 11:09Drew Afualo?

  That's tea, though.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, what do you think?

• 11:11Drew Afualo?

  I haven't watched it, honestly. I'm a culture scavenger, though. So I'm really like someone-

• 11:16Speaker 03

  This is lovely. Why haven't you seen it yet?

• 11:19Drew Afualo?

  I honestly, I wait till things are just like no longer-

• 11:21Speaker 03

  Honestly, that's kind of for the, it's, I, I see where you're coming from.

• 11:25Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes I think, I think, I don't think it's like a contrarian thing for me, because I really don't give a fuck about loving things that everybody else loves.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Good work.

• 11:31Drew Afualo?

  I really do think it's just because I'm like, well, I don't want to be swayed by opinion, so I'll chime in when it's time.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  That being said, like, if it's real, real dogshit, I'll, sometimes I'll tune in. Like, I watched The Summer I Turned Pretty Down.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 11:43Drew Afualo?

  I watched that dumbass show down, bitch.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  I can't do it. I can't do it.

• 11:47Drew Afualo?

  It's really awful. Like, don't get me wrong, it's bad. But in a way, that's like-

• 11:52Speaker 03

  Endearing.

• 11:52Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Charming.

• 11:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like, well, and then the last season, like, oh, girl, white women wanted to jump me about this last season.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  Are you serious?

• 12:00Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl, I was finding girls left and right, they were literally trying to cancel me because I didn't pick the fake white brother that they liked. I was like, sorry, I ride for the bisexual king, my fucking bad. But also, I, I had said multiple times, I'm like, fuck both these hoes. I'm team, go to Paris. I mean, literally and metaphorically to that girl. Because you know what I said? I was like, when I was like, thinking, I'm like, you know, is what she's doing kind of fucked up, like bouncing between brothers? Yeah. If I was that age and men who looked like that were fucking with me-

• 12:30Speaker 03

  Gag it.

• 12:30Drew Afualo?

  Girl.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Talk about that.

• 12:32Drew Afualo?

  I would have been running a train, bitch. I would have been having a team, I would have been swapping them out.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Pouring those hoes out.

• 12:37Drew Afualo?

  I would have been having them sign in a check-in sheet at my door, bitch.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  Clock in and clock out, this thing. And hurry it up.

• 12:45Drew Afualo?

  Punch a car.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  Your brother's on the way.

• 12:49Drew Afualo?

  But I love watching shit like that, because I love to like, chime in.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:53Drew Afualo?

  But that, this last season, girl, they were trying to jump me. So now, maybe that's another reason why I stayed away from this one. I was like, just in case I have an opinion that nobody likes.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  I'm getting a daydream of you, like, like the Matrix style, like, fighting like a horde of people. You know what I mean? And you go, woo. I see that for you.

• 13:10Drew Afualo?

  I know, and I do it all the time for dumb bitch shit like that apparently. Like, I don't mind fighting men, because that's just like my thing. But when I have to fight my own about dumbass shit, I'm like, come on, guys, it's not the, the point of this is to enjoy ourselves.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  We can't save everybody.

• 13:24Drew Afualo?

  Let's all cave, let's all laugh. What the fuck? Like, I was like, that's the best part about this dumbass show.

• 13:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:30Drew Afualo?

  Also, I will say, when I was like, going to town on that show, and I was like, fighting people, and fighting for a specific brother, I was like, talking my shit. Uh, the main actress in that show followed me. So I think that I was cracking, I was cracking her up.

• 13:45Speaker 03

  Who won?

• 13:46Drew Afualo?

  She thought I was funny.

• 13:47Speaker 03

  Period.

• 13:49Drew Afualo?

  So it worked out, for me, anyway. So I will visit Heated Robbery.

• 13:53Speaker 03

  Thank, that's all I asked.

• 13:54Drew Afualo?

  I'm working my way there.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  You honestly gave me as much information as I need to know about, I, the summer I turned pretty.

• 14:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're cool off it. No need. There's no need.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 14:03Drew Afualo?

  None at all.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  Thank you. See this? Sisterhood. See that? Some of you bitches couldn't spell it.

• 14:10Drew Afualo?

  I'm super like, uh, I don't care about spoilers either, a lot of times. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. For the most part, I don't. And like, recently I watched, my sister wanted to watch the Stranger Things finale, like with our friend Alex.

• 14:22Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 14:22Drew Afualo?

  But I'd never watched that show.

• 14:23Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 14:24Drew Afualo?

  I'd watched, I watched season three from front to back. I had never watched one or two.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 14:31Drew Afualo?

  Um, but I only, yeah, I only watched, I literally say, I'm like, I got the gist.

• 14:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:35Drew Afualo?

  Even though most often times, if I could recount it to you, I'd probably be really wrong. But I mean, what's the, where's the fun in that?

• 14:40Speaker 03

  There's this little girl, she's bald, named Twelve. Uh, she-

• 14:43Drew Afualo?

  Something like that.

• 14:44Speaker 03

  She can bend spoons.

• 14:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, something like that. She's like magician or something.

• 14:47Speaker 03

  You know, and it's eighties, they're, they're kind of racist still, but they're working on it.

• 14:51Drew Afualo?

  One time on my show with my sister, I was like, we were doing this bit where I was explaining the plots of movies.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:58Drew Afualo?

  Even if I haven't seen them. I was just kind of going based off what I thought.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:01Drew Afualo?

  And so I explained Pride and Prejudice. Have you ever watched Pride and Prejudice?

• 15:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's one of my favorites.

• 15:05Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I've never watched it, just transparently. Never watched it, never read it.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Okay, we're gonna have a movie night.

• 15:10Drew Afualo?

  We have to. I have to catch up.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  Well, yeah.

• 15:12Drew Afualo?

  And so, when I was recounting Pride and Prejudice, I was literally saying, like, there's this girl, um, and she's like, smart, and she has sisters, and her sisters want to marry- Um, like for like frivolous reasons, hers are like, I don't need to be married. Like, kinda like giving little women. And then I go, and then there's this guy, and then he comes, and then he's like, you know, it's like that bullshit when they're like, black cat, golden retriever, like, it's like that shit. They have that dynamic going on.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  They do.

• 15:36Drew Afualo?

  And then I said, and then they're in the rain, and he confesses his love to her. And then he gets pneumonia and he dies. And I'm, I was so dead ass about it. I was like, and that's like, pretty much the end.

• 15:46Speaker 03

  You know what? You're so confident about it. I'm like, did he die? That actually, no, that makes sense.

• 15:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so many people are like, you're like, so wrong, it's not even funny.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  It's revealing to me, when you said it's like little women, I was like, wait, there's, there's plenty of like

• 16:00Drew Afualo?

  Parallels.

• 16:01Speaker 03

  What is this, mid 18th century?

• 16:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. Bridgerton time.

• 16:05Speaker 03

  Right, like, yeah, I guess, I guess I've heard that trope before, yeah, you're right.

• 16:09Drew Afualo?

  I was like

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Like, hell yeah.

• 16:10Drew Afualo?

  I lowkey got the gist.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Pride and Prejudice, Wuthering Heights.

• 16:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Um, you just, uh, little women, all that.

• 16:16Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 16:16Drew Afualo?

  It's all two sides of the same coin.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  I got it, you kinda got it.

• 16:20Drew Afualo?

  I know, I think if I, if I stayed vague a little bit longer, I probably would have like, finessed the ending. But I said, I said too confidently that he died, and that was not true, so.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  It's not, I

• 16:30Drew Afualo?

  Not even close.

• 16:30Speaker 03

  I really did think he did.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  I really did think he did.

• 16:33Drew Afualo?

  They were like, you're actually so wrong about that. And I was like, but did I get like, the gist? I feel like I got the gist. I was even telling my dad once, I was like, I, I think I'm, I'm gonna watch the new Gladiator. And he goes, have you seen the original? And I go, no, but like, it's like men fighting, like, what else is there?

• 16:49Speaker 03

  I'm not going to the Gladiator for the plot. Take your shirt off and stab him.

• 16:53Drew Afualo?

  Hurry up.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 16:55Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to see some tits immediately.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  Immediately.

• 16:58Drew Afualo?

  Boy tits immediately.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  Immediately. I met you there.

• 17:02Drew Afualo?

  I literally was like, no, but I feel like I got the like, gist.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:06Drew Afualo?

  And he was like, well, it's like, uh, it's a continuation. I was like, dah. Men fighting, la la la la la, it's all the same.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  I feel like it, it's Roman. Sand.

• 17:16Drew Afualo?

  What else do you need, honestly?

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Swords, Pedro Pascal. I'm in.

• 17:20Drew Afualo?

  And Paul Mescal.

• 17:21Speaker 03

  Who?

• 17:22Drew Afualo?

  Who? Who? Can I tell you something funny about Paul Mescal?

• 17:26Speaker 03

  You have some teeth.

• 17:27Drew Afualo?

  Kind of, but not really.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 17:29Drew Afualo?

  Kind of, not really.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  Turn this off, turn this off.

• 17:31Drew Afualo?

  Um, basically, like, when I first, the first year I worked with the Oscars was like his, like, big, big year. That was like him and Pedro Pascal, big, big year for them.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 17:39Drew Afualo?

  And, um, I was working with the Academy specifically, so they were like, walking me around, like, rehearsal space, and they were like, oh, this is where everyone's gonna come, we sent out all your information to all these people, like, and a lot of people said, oh, they'll stop, whatever. And then some of them, she's like, oh, Paul Mescal's like really excited to meet you, I think he likes TikTok. And then I go, Pedro Pascal? And then, cause I, he, I only know him. And then she goes, no, Paul Mescal. And then I go, okay. Cause I had no idea who the fuck that was.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  You didn't know who that Irish man was.

• 18:05Drew Afualo?

  Well, here, I'll tell you this.

• 18:06Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 18:07Drew Afualo?

  Then when I told my sister, I go, who the hell is that? And she goes, well, he had like a really big movie, whatever. I'm like, okay. The whole time I'm thinking my head Logan Lerman. I thought he was Logan Lerman. And so then I'm like Percy Jackson, Lightning Thief.

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Okay, wait a minute though. You're on to something.

• 18:23Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you, like, they have similar head shapes. And then like, and then I go, my sister goes, no, Logan Lerm, that's Logan Lerman, like, that's a completely different guy.

• 18:31Speaker 03

  Like Sabina Wallflower, Percy Jackson.

• 18:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and so then I was like, so that's not Percy Jackson? And she said, no. And then I go, okay, so then it's the guy from Thirteen Reasons Why? And she goes, no, that's Dylan Minette. Who the fuck are these people? I'm literally like, who, who the hell is that? Like, I was like, wait, what? Like, I was so...

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Dylan, come on the show and defend yourself.

• 18:50Drew Afualo?

  And I, I'm literally laughing.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Fight back, Dylan, fight back!

• 18:52Drew Afualo?

  I have like such a itis about me, like, I have, I have like, an itis where it's only white men.

• 18:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:59Drew Afualo?

  Famous white men specifically, I'm like, well, that's the same person as this guy. And I just thought they were all Logan Lerman. I thought all of them were Percy Jackson.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Yeah. A large part of my job is remembering who people are.

• 19:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  Can't do it.

• 19:11Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 19:12Speaker 03

  If they're lighter than a Maybelline 240, hey.

• 19:15Drew Afualo?

  If their shade is bone?

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Hey.

• 19:17Drew Afualo?

  I don't know.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 19:19Drew Afualo?

  It's like not in the same vein as men, but I was also one time my sister was explaining to me the difference between Daisy Ridley, Daisy Edgar Jones, Daisy Jones and the Six. I thought Daisy Jones and the Six was a story about Daisy Edgar Jones. And Daisy Ridley, I thought she was also Daisy Edgar Jones. Do you see how it gets so convoluted?

• 19:43Speaker 03

  I'm with you.

• 19:43Drew Afualo?

  I was like Daisy Edgar Jones and the Six, I'm sick to my stomach. No more. I can't, I can only have a certain amount of white people appear at a time and I have to like, once they reach their peak, then I can swap them out for another. I just don't have space.

• 19:56Speaker 03

  It's quick math.

• 19:56Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  No, I'm with you.

• 19:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's really like compressing of timeframes for me.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  I know Daisy Edgar Jones and Paul Mescal from normal people.

• 20:05Drew Afualo?

  And that's what made me sick to my stomach because she said, oh, she was in a really famous show with Paul Mescal.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:11Drew Afualo?

  I don't know the difference between these people. I'm so sorry to these people. I'm so sorry. Now I do know who Paul Mescal is, obviously. Now I do know him.

• 20:19Speaker 03

  You better save face.

• 20:20Drew Afualo?

  Now I do know who Paul Mescal is. Have you ever seen me? I'm gonna tell you that I thought you were.

• 20:25Speaker 03

  She's a huge fan.

• 20:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm a huge, huge. Oh my god, your body of work. Oh, I love it.

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Paul, we love you.

• 20:33Drew Afualo?

  I think that's the funniest form of reparations, to be honest.

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 20:37Drew Afualo?

  Only white people like that.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  No, yeah, yeah. Well, he was also, Paul was also great in the one with Andrew Scott. Is that his name, Andrew Scott?

• 20:44Drew Afualo?

  Who's that?

• 20:45Speaker 03

  All About Us.

• 20:47Drew Afualo?

  Who's Andrew Scott?

• 20:48Speaker 03

  Is that All About Us? All About.

• 20:51Drew Afualo?

  Wait, is Andrew Scott from?

• 20:53Speaker 03

  Fleabag?

• 20:53Drew Afualo?

  Okay, The Priest.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  The Priest.

• 20:56Drew Afualo?

  Okay, okay.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  All of us strangers.

• 20:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes. Okay, that was, they were, they were a gay couple in that movie.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  They were a gay couple in that movie.

• 21:05Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, do you see how they start morphing into each other? Like, I'm getting stressed out.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  You're doing great. Hey, hey, hey, you're doing okay. Not too much on yourself.

• 21:12Drew Afualo?

  And none of those men are Doctor Who? This is crazy.

• 21:15Speaker 03

  Wait, I thought Andrew Scott was a Doctor Who.

• 21:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, I'm gonna kill myself.

• 21:19Speaker 03

  Did I make that up?

• 21:20Drew Afualo?

  I hope so. I hope he was.

• 21:22Speaker 03

  One of my favorite pastimes is spreading misinformation.

• 21:24Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 21:25Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  Built my platform off of it.

• 21:26Drew Afualo?

  I love to lie.

• 21:27Speaker 03

  Everything I've ever said was a lie.

• 21:29Drew Afualo?

  I love to lie unless I decide not to lie, then I'm not lying anymore.

• 21:32Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 21:32Drew Afualo?

  And when that happens, just depends.

• 21:38Drew Afualo?

  So, let's talk about Gadar.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:40Drew Afualo?

  How did that come about? How, like, has it been?

• 21:43Speaker 03

  It's been awesome.

• 21:43Drew Afualo?

  In your hosting bag?

• 21:45Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah. Um, Mutual's Media, who is the production company of Gadar, and Amelia Montooth is like the CEO of it. They reached out to me to host the show. This is about, um, how old are we? A year and a half? We're a year and a half now.

• 21:58Drew Afualo?

  T. Oh, my gosh, time flies.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's been really cool. And I mean, I think it's been awesome to like diversify what people know me for too, which has been really cool.

• 22:06Drew Afualo?

  Totally, yeah.

• 22:06Speaker 03

  The last time I was on the pod, I was like, you know, doing my own thing and like, really fighting to stay relevant. And I was doing a great job.

• 22:17Drew Afualo?

  I thought you were.

• 22:18Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 22:18Drew Afualo?

  I thought you were killing it.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Hey, I was on the pod.

• 22:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, hey, that's more than a lot of other people can say.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Okay. But yeah, it's been great just like interviewing people. And people always ask me like, what's my like favorite episode or anything? But it's always been, and no shade to the A, B, and C listers, but it's always like the people who are like, um, up and coming that I have the most fun with on the show.

• 22:39Drew Afualo?

  That's a good point.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  So, yeah, I mean, like, um, I loved my episode with Renee Rapp. I loved with Chapel, but like, it's been really cool to like, talk to, like, people.

• 22:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 22:48Speaker 03

  Just have fun with the, the...

• 22:57Speaker 00

  Welcome to 215 Maple Drive. We just put this property on the market.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  Love the crown molding.

• 23:04Speaker 00

  Oh, wait until you see the walk-in closets and the bathroom tile.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Does it have Verizon FiOS? You know, 100% fiber internet?

• 23:12Speaker 00

  No FiOS, but it looks like it's got cable. Let's check out the kitchen.

• 23:15Speaker 01

  No FiOS? Yeah, no, thank you.

• 23:19Speaker 00

  Don't you want to see the rest? Okay, bye-bye.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Get Verizon FiOS, because when you're moving, it's 100% or nothing.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  Me trying to come up with a fancy way to say this. It's been cool to talk to people and learn things.

• 23:36Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  I think that was pretty good.

• 23:38Drew Afualo?

  That's a great way to describe it, honestly. That's how I feel about hosting, too. I feel like,

• 23:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:42Drew Afualo?

  You, I feel like you're so similar to me in the way we host, which is like, you just want a key.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Just gotta.

• 23:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I have a good convo.

• 23:48Speaker 03

  And if there's something that comes out of it, we'll.

• 23:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's fun.

• 23:50Speaker 03

  You know?

• 23:51Drew Afualo?

  But it's like, I feel like you get the best clips when you're like able to connect to people and I feel like you're really good at that.

• 23:56Speaker 03

  Well, thank you.

• 23:57Drew Afualo?

  Especially connecting to really, really famous people because like, I've said, I was, I had a meeting yesterday and we were talking about hosting and I was like, I think my favorite part of hosting, especially talking to really famous people because I don't get starstruck.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:10Drew Afualo?

  Um, and I know you don't either, really.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  Not anymore.

• 24:12Drew Afualo?

  And it's like, I don't ever get starstruck, so I like talking to them like they're normal.

• 24:17Speaker 03

  Cause they are, they're just some guy.

• 24:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they, they really dig it. Like when you're, especially when you're a little mean to them, I think they love it.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  See this? Sisterhood!

• 24:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah. Hell, fucking, yeah.

• 24:33Drew Afualo?

  They like it. They like being dragged a little.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  I mean, it's just like, I feel like it's also a way to like, um, I guess this R might be, it might have like a, the wrong connotation.

• 24:42Drew Afualo?

  No, that's a great way of describing it.

• 24:44Speaker 03

  Just like, you don't, like, I feel like there's a script that a lot of people have when they come on these kind of shows and it's nice to get past that.

• 24:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I agree. And I think you get like, you also get a much more meaningful conversation out of it. And then even like, I'm sure Gadar is kind of like, when I host on carpets, like, you don't get a lot of time.

• 25:00Speaker 03

  No.

• 25:00Drew Afualo?

  To really hang out and like key, key down.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a quick, we, it usually takes 10 to 15 minutes for each episode. Yeah.

• 25:07Drew Afualo?

  Have, what's been your favorite of last year? We'll simplify it. Do you have any, or maybe top three?

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Renee Rapp was really nice. She brought me flowers for my birthday, which is great.

• 25:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's sweet.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Love you, Renee. Um, uh, there was this episode with this person named Yodoye. Uh, they're a comedian, hilarious, hilarious, hilarious guy. And then, top three. Do you have a top three? Or like another one?

• 25:30Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say Sean.

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Oh, I guess, oh my god, no, I did love Sean. Sean was kinda fun. This guy named Sean, he's a comedian as well. He came on the show and for maybe, I just told you, it takes 10 minutes to film the episode.

• 25:43Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  For maybe eight, he was describing a movie I've never seen before in my life. Ever. Ever. And I was like, at a certain point, you just gotta get to, what is it about?

• 25:53Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 25:53Speaker 03

  He gave me the, act one, this happens, this happens, this character, the denouement. I was like, what the fuck?

• 26:00Drew Afualo?

  Well, you're all, that's okay, I didn't wanna see it. It's alright.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  And even if I did wanna see it, now I can't.

• 26:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  For my, for my people. I can't fucking see that fucking movie.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  That was actually a pretty fun episode.

• 26:13Drew Afualo?

  I do love like, a silly bit like that, plus like, was he older than you?

• 26:17Speaker 03

  I don't know, I think we're about the same age.

• 26:19Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay, too, that's even funnier. Cause when they're older, I love to make old people jokes. So sometimes when they're like, when I had Kyle McLaughlin on and he was describing something to me and he's like, you never seen that? And I go, no, but you're like, way older than me. So that reference kinda like, went over me a little bit.

• 26:32Speaker 03

  I did that on Caleb's podcast. He said he was turning 31 and I went.

• 26:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, old bitch, he and I are the same age. He and I are the same age. He's older than me though, his birthday's in January, mine's in September. Me forgetting, me forgetting my own birthday.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Where, what's your sign?

• 26:51Drew Afualo?

  Virgo.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 26:52Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  Like mother?

• 26:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes. The one and only Virgo that matters.

• 26:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:56Drew Afualo?

  Yes. I actually just spent time with Caleb in, what do you call it, Ireland. We went to Ireland for New Year's Eve.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  What the fuck?

• 27:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I went, yeah, I went with like, my family and my man and then we took my friends Alex and Steven and then we also met up with Brittany.

• 27:13Speaker 03

  Nice.

• 27:13Drew Afualo?

  And then we were always, the loudest trip you could possibly imagine.

• 27:17Speaker 03

  I mean, but you're, I feel like Irish people get up, you know?

• 27:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they're better than the UK because the UK, when I went there, like, oh man, I was fighting a war with the redcoats when I came back from the UK. Cause I was like, talking shit on their food and I was like, your food is ass. And every time I say it on this show and they clip it and they put it on their, oh my god, the amount of fat jokes I get.

• 27:39Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 27:39Drew Afualo?

  The fat insults, like, the allegations of fatness that I get from Brits specifically, they get so pissed off at me.

• 27:46Speaker 03

  It's just crazy, cause. They always do this thing where they're like, post a picture and they're like, "Look, look, it's good." And I'm looking at slop. I'm looking at, no, you know what? I just, I just fell into the trap too. They're gonna get me next.

• 28:01Speaker 03

  Damn it.

• 28:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, they hate a big brown bitch too.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  I would just like to say that I'm 5'7" and 95 pounds wet. So whatever you're gonna say is unfounded.

• 28:10Drew Afualo?

  I would keep that in mind.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  Okay. Thank you. Sometimes when I turn to the side, I turn 2D. So, watch out for me.

• 28:19Drew Afualo?

  I know. Let me know if you find my waist, by the way. That joke kills with women on carpets. Like, every time I do that, I'm like, "And I'll let you know if I find your waist. I've been looking all night. I can't find it." What's your favorite thing to do, like, in interviews if it's, um, stalling a little bit? Like, if you're not getting as much?

• 28:36Speaker 03

  I love leaning into it. The Jeopardy bit is always fun.

• 28:39Drew Afualo?

  Jeopardy bit?

• 28:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I also like looking directly into their eyes and waiting.

• 28:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, sometimes it's a waiting game.

• 28:45Speaker 03

  That, or I'll just, like, answer for them and move on.

• 28:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:48Speaker 03

  I'm not, I'm not trying to hold you. This is not a, you know, let's have fun while we still can. I'm not trying to hold you up, but, um, yeah.

• 28:56Drew Afualo?

  That's real. That's real, yeah. I know, uh, that's hard for me when I would do street interview things. So, like, when I, when they pull random people on the street. Cause everybody thinks, like, "Oh my god, if I got pulled for a street interview, I'd be so hilarious and, and, and charismatic."

• 29:10Speaker 03

  Maybe, like, uh, two thirds of our comments are like, "Let me come on Gadar. Let me, let, let, I know it. I know who the fuck was the first..."

• 29:19Drew Afualo?

  I would be way funnier on here.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  Yeah. I know stuff. I'm sure you do.

• 29:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and as soon as you get in front of that camera, you're gonna be like, it's gonna, you're gonna lock up real quick.

• 29:29Speaker 03

  Sorry, I didn't see that. You're gonna...

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 29:35Drew Afualo?

  That is what they end up doing. Like, and then, uh, I do, I've done what you've done too, which is leaning into it. So I've been like, "A man, a few words. I like it. All right, on to the next question." I like it, period.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  I live for that.

• 29:47Drew Afualo?

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• 30:31Speaker 03

  Have you had a favorite interview on a carpet?

• 30:34Drew Afualo?

  Hmm, Timothy Chalamet was great.

• 30:36Speaker 03

  I love that guy.

• 30:37Drew Afualo?

  He was a lot of fun. Honestly, he's so tuned in, he's very chronically online.

• 30:42Speaker 03

  I don't know what the fuck was happening.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  I don't know what the fuck was happening with the Marty Supreme press tour.

• 30:49Drew Afualo?

  Girl.

• 30:51Speaker 03

  But he just, he needs to remember he's a white dude.

• 30:55Drew Afualo?

  I saw, I saw a meme that said, he said, fuck that Oscar, I'm trying to win a BET award.

• 31:07Drew Afualo?

  But that shit is funny. Bro, I, and I'm not even kidding.

• 31:12Speaker 03

  If he played his cards, right? He probably would.

• 31:13Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, right, he's on that track. Like literally a month ago, I, I said to my, I like turned to my friends and I was like, can I ask you guys a vulnerable question? And they're like, yeah. And I go, what is Marty Supreme? Like, who is that?

• 31:25Speaker 03

  Who is he?

• 31:26Drew Afualo?

  Is that a biopic? Is that on some, like, I thought it was like, um, I thought it was like a biopic at first. It's not, it's like a made up thing, which I was like, I especially can't get into it. I'm just like, when they try to force me to like a white guy, I resist. I dig my heels in.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Good for you. That's your ancestors.

• 31:44Drew Afualo?

  I dig my heels.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  Listen to them, listen to them.

• 31:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:46Speaker 03

  Uh, Timothy, come on the show, come on both of our shows.

• 31:49Drew Afualo?

  You should.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  We have something to ask.

• 31:50Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 31:52Speaker 03

  We have a couple of questions. En français.

• 31:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:57Drew Afualo?

  Gags. That's why I think he was really fun. He was fun to talk to. Yeah. I think he wants to be a lot sillier in interviews and I think maybe, maybe the Marty Supreme thing has allowed him to do that. Which is, it didn't, is it, is Marty Supreme a comedy? No, I don't know. I actually have no clue, but I have- You don't have to act like- No, I have been seeing people say though that it's like, um, men who are fucking dumb and watching it are absorbing it in the same way that men my age did Wolf of Wall Street. So they're like looking at him as like a hero. Sorry, just- The hubris of man, I guess, is, is getting- Ooh, that hit me. It's just like Family Guy, like when, when, when dumb bitch dudes watch Family Guy, they're like, oh, the, the offensive part's the funny part, but like,

• 32:41Drew Afualo?

  the funnier part is layered within, which is that he's genuinely a terrible- Yes. Person, partner, dad. Yes. That's the larger joke at play. You can always tell, like, when people like watch, I love Family Guy. Me too. I love Family Guy for a different reason than a lot of- Me too. -sexual men might think. I agree, and I've talked to Caleb about that before. Yeah. Which he validated my love for that show too. Because there are just some jokes in it where I'm like- Hilarious. Holy fuck, that's so funny. Hilarious. Seth, come on the show. Seth, come on the show. Come on both of our shows, we have a couple of questions. We have a couple of questions.

• 33:15Drew Afualo?

  I actually did, um, go to his holiday party last year.

• 33:18Drew Afualo?

  Oh, really? Yeah, and he performed a bunch of holiday songs with Liz Gillies.

• 33:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's iconic. It was great.

• 33:23Drew Afualo?

  That's iconic. It was a lot of fun. Him and the baby Grant. Ah! And this, okay, this- Ah! I'm making this note right now. I did not mean that. I don't know why, okay. I'm gonna make this note right now, Amanda, you're gonna have to cut this. I love you. Wait, and I'll tell you- What she just told us? Y'all didn't, there's a smash cut. You won't see it. But girl, the tea is hot. Like, at that party, it was confirmed to me, because I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go meet him and maybe ask him to come on the show, whatever. Went up, uh, my, one of my publicists is a gay man, and his friends were all there, all gay men. So I was, he was like, oh yeah, I'll take you over, I'll introduce you, yeah, let's go. And he's like, you know what, fuck it, let's go.

• 34:03Drew Afualo?

  And we like went over there, introduced, and then I, I was, he's like, I was like, hey, like, nice to meet you, congrats on everything. And he was like, this is exactly what he said, guys, he went like this. Thanks.

• 34:16Drew Afualo?

  I knew immediately. I said I smell a straight amongst us. I know a white man who only dates white women. I can smell that from a mile away. I'm a drug dog for that.

• 34:27Drew Afualo?

  It stinks over here. I feel like I'm sitting on a gold mine.

• 34:34Speaker 03

  Honestly TMZ would buy it.

• 34:35Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 34:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 34:37Drew Afualo?

  I lowkey feel, anyhow, we'll get back to it.

• 34:39Speaker 03

  Hey guys, we're back.

• 34:40Drew Afualo?

  Crazy. I had to share that tea with Anna-Nia.

• 34:43Speaker 03

  I want you to know, this cut was maybe six minutes. That was crazy. Okay. Hi.

• 34:48Drew Afualo?

  I had to, but anyhow, yeah, I did go to Seth MacFarlane's holiday party.

• 34:51Speaker 03

  Which was the party of the fucking year, I guess.

• 34:54Drew Afualo?

  I got the news of the century at that party. But it was amazing. It was very fun. I did enjoy watching him sing Christmas songs.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  I mean, his voice is crazy.

• 35:02Drew Afualo?

  It's tea.

• 35:03Speaker 03

  Crazy cool. Frank Sinatra incarnated.

• 35:05Drew Afualo?

  Speaking of singing, what's like a dream role for you?

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Come on segue.

• 35:10Drew Afualo?

  What's a dream role for you on Broadway?

• 35:12Speaker 03

  This professional, okay?

• 35:13Drew Afualo?

  Clock it.

• 35:14Speaker 03

  I live for that.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Dream roles, I have a list.

• 35:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, tea, let's hear them.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  Well, I always want someone, my biggest goal is for someone to write a role for me. I think that's like.

• 35:25Drew Afualo?

  Like an original?

• 35:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would love to do that.

• 35:28Drew Afualo?

  You want to originate a Broadway performance?

• 35:29Speaker 03

  We're gonna, we're gonna take this show, oh, I know who, we should, Anna-Nia, Anna-Nia's gonna be perfect for this. That kind of vibe.

• 35:37Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Dream roles. Let's see. I have, I think Hercules Mulligan as a trans woman would be hilarious.

• 35:44Drew Afualo?

  That would be so tea.

• 35:47Speaker 03

  I think it's right there. I think everyone's ready for that.

• 35:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, and Hercules is on West End right now.

• 35:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. I do kinda wanna, I do kinda wanna be Elphaba. It feels, it feels like a little gauche to say.

• 35:56Drew Afualo?

  I don't think so.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  You know, I want to be Elphaba.

• 35:59Drew Afualo?

  I think the only reason it feels gauche now is because the movies came out. But I don't really think it was ever gauche to say that. I think that's the most OG Broadway dream.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Right.

• 36:06Drew Afualo?

  Especially now that Cynthia's played her in the movie.

• 36:09Speaker 03

  Exactly. Now that Elphaba is canonically black for a couple of years.

• 36:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you got some time, you gotta get in there.

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Before they close the door, honey. And they are closing that door. Cunti Mercutio, have you seen Romeo plus Juliet 1996?

• 36:23Drew Afualo?

  I haven't seen the show, no, but I have heard of it.

• 36:25Speaker 03

  It's a, it's a great movie. We need to have a movie night.

• 36:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay, yes, for sure, we do.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Mary Todd Lincoln, that will happen.

• 36:31Drew Afualo?

  That one, I believe.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  I will, I will be Mary Todd Lincoln one day.

• 36:36Drew Afualo?

  That is true. I think, and you love jinx, I love jinx.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  Love jinx.

• 36:40Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna have jinx on soon.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  How does this sound? Anna-Nia amon soon? Rolls off the tongue.

• 36:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, hell yeah.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Just gonna put that out there. Just gonna put it out there.

• 36:49Drew Afualo?

  In case she's looking to adopt.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  In case.

• 36:51Drew Afualo?

  In case, you never know.

• 36:53Speaker 03

  Her loins are fertile.

• 36:54Drew Afualo?

  You know what? Closed mouths don't get fed.

• 36:57Speaker 03

  Gag that.

• 36:59Speaker 03

  Oh, and then another one, Suge Avery from The Color Purple.

• 37:02Drew Afualo?

  Oh, love.

• 37:03Speaker 03

  Would love to do that.

• 37:04Drew Afualo?

  Okay, well, all of those sound well within the realm of possibility for you.

• 37:07Speaker 03

  Well, thank you so much.

• 37:08Drew Afualo?

  I believe in you so sincerely.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Do you have any, like, dream roles?

• 37:11Drew Afualo?

  I do.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  I would love to hear this.

• 37:13Drew Afualo?

  I mean, okay, for if I could sing and I was on Broadway, I would love to be Elle Woods. I love Legally Blonde the Musical. That's one of my favorite musicals.

• 37:21Speaker 03

  Stay right there. I'm gonna make this happen for you. I'm gonna make it happen for you.

• 37:23Drew Afualo?

  I can't sing for shit, but I love that musical down.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  You haven't heard an autotune. We got you, baby.

• 37:29Drew Afualo?

  In live theater?

• 37:29Speaker 03

  Live, live, honey. Yes!

• 37:32Drew Afualo?

  Or any of them in six. I do love six.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Oh, sure. I can see you in six.

• 37:36Drew Afualo?

  I think that one's fun.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  Hell, yeah.

• 37:38Drew Afualo?

  But if I'm talking, like, in the realm of possibility, acting, I normally just pick shows, like, show themes. Like, I would love to be in, like, an Abbott Elementary. Or even in something like a House of the Dragon.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 37:49Drew Afualo?

  They put some, they put some people of color in there.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 37:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  And this has been a perfect opportunity for us to let you know that we are making a sitcom coming out on FX, Hulu, Disney Plus.

• 38:01Drew Afualo?

  And we're playing twins.

• 38:02Speaker 03

  And we're playing?

• 38:03Drew Afualo?

  Twins. Conjoined twins.

• 38:06Speaker 03

  We're playing?

• 38:09Speaker 03

  We might have to go back to the writing room, but...

• 38:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you know what? We'll work on it.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  We're working on it.

• 38:14Drew Afualo?

  We're workshopping.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  And?

• 38:17Speaker 03

  Twins, bitch.

• 38:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I think.

• 38:19Speaker 03

  Twins.

• 38:20Drew Afualo?

  We could easily be twins. I think so. She thinks I'm ugly. That's what she's trying not to say.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  I don't think you're ugly. I just think we might have, there might be a suspension of disbelief.

• 38:30Drew Afualo?

  Okay, what about same mom, different dads?

• 38:33Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 38:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we could be, like, half-sisters.

• 38:36Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 38:37Drew Afualo?

  I think that's two.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 38:38Drew Afualo?

  Or we could do...

• 38:39Speaker 03

  And we find out about each other.

• 38:40Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  And then we go across the country.

• 38:41Drew Afualo?

  The parent trap.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  Yeah!

• 38:45Drew Afualo?

  That's perfect.

• 38:47Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry to the sound person, by the way. You're gonna have to really compress.

• 38:50Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, Jamie.

• 38:51Speaker 03

  Compress and equalize and punch.

• 38:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he's used to it, honestly. Unfortunately, I'm an outrageous woman, too.

• 38:58Speaker 03

  I've heard you laugh.

• 38:59Drew Afualo?

  Have you seen, have you seen that, the outrageous woman bit?

• 39:02Speaker 03

  No.

• 39:03Drew Afualo?

  On TikTok? No?

• 39:04Speaker 03

  I don't think so.

• 39:04Drew Afualo?

  It's, uh, this guy on TikTok, he was like, "The most outrageous woman in the world." And then he just like is screaming the whole time.

• 39:11Speaker 03

  I've, I've, I have heard this.

• 39:12Drew Afualo?

  I was like, "I've never felt so seen in media."

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Because, and I, I'm happy I'm here. I'm happy I'm here.

• 39:18Drew Afualo?

  I hope so.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  The way, I love your videos because they usually start with a laugh.

• 39:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  And I'm like, "This is my girl." And then I like watch my videos back sometimes and I like hear my laugh and I'm like, "Oh, my God."

• 39:29Drew Afualo?

  Telling you.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  I sound like a, like a gnome that came to life and I live for that.

• 39:34Drew Afualo?

  You and me both.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  Our sitcom's gonna be sick as fuck.

• 39:37Drew Afualo?

  It's gonna be loud, but it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be loud as fuck.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  I live for that. Uh, networks, hit us up. Let us know. We're open and willing. I love capitalism.

• 39:50Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  Me just saying everything that I want.

• 39:53Drew Afualo?

  When it serves me, I love it.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Branding it every single moment I get. Anyway.

• 39:57Drew Afualo?

  I was in a meeting yesterday with like, uh, exec people or whatever and I, I was talking about acting or being cast in something and I use this bit a lot. It does kill every time I use it. Sometimes it doesn't. It's a 50/50 toss, right? But I literally go, um, "When it comes to acting, I'm, I'm a real who want me kinda girl." "Which one of you want me? Which one of you need me?" You let me know. So like, "Who want me?" I guess is my question to you.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Have you done stand-up yet?

• 40:22Drew Afualo?

  I have tried stand-up, yeah. I've done it a couple times. I'm not, and this is me, well, this is me not gassing myself. I know I'm, I'm good at it and I could be really good at it. I just don't really wanna do it.

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Oh, fair.

• 40:35Drew Afualo?

  Kind of. Like, I kinda do, but I can't.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  It's a skill that you have to keep working out.

• 40:40Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because when I talk to like professional comedians, like, like Taylor Thompson, for example, like she's been a pro for years. Love her. She's so funny and so nice. When I was talking to her, I was like, "Yeah, sometimes my friend told me you should do stand-up." And she goes, "Don't do that." She goes, "That's going backwards for you." I go, "Really?" She goes, "Yeah, the money part you have. That's normally where you start with none and then work there." "You already have that. Don't do that." And I was like, "Tee." Tee. My manager hated hearing that because he was like, "You should do stand-up. You should do stand-up." And then I was like, ah.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  My manager right now.

• 41:16Drew Afualo?

  Me, me influencing her poorly. Oh, my God, I know. And my first ever five I ever did was for Caleb.

• 41:23Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 41:24Drew Afualo?

  And Chris Fleming was the other opener.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  Caleb was, Caleb said this thing on his podcast where he's like, yeah, you usually just have to jump in and do it like.

• 41:31Drew Afualo?

  Girl, he's crazy.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  He's insane.

• 41:33Drew Afualo?

  He was like, let me, wait, because I was asking him advice about doing five for someone else.

• 41:37Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:37Drew Afualo?

  And then he was like, uh huh, uh huh, like listening to me talk on the phone. And then he goes, you're gonna do fucking five for her and not me. I've been asking you forever. And I started laughing. I was like, well, I just like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm asking if I should, whatever. He's like, no, bitch, come do it for me. I did it at the Largo. And here in LA. But it was like, yeah, I know. And then when I said that to one of my other buddies, he goes, that was your first five, the Largo? And I go, I know. It makes me sound ungrateful as well.

• 42:05Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  Um, I did stand up for my, my solo show in, for the holiday show.

• 42:10Drew Afualo?

  See, I saw, I saw clips of it.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 42:12Drew Afualo?

  You're good, bitch.

• 42:13Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 42:14Drew Afualo?

  You're good.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  It was like, I felt like the, um, the preparation for such and then the execution of it, completely different.

• 42:22Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  Worlds, processes.

• 42:24Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 42:25Speaker 03

  I was like, I, because I had like a joke maybe every line, but then it's like when you're up there and you're like, what the fuck did I say?

• 42:32Drew Afualo?

  I blacked out.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Why are you bitches, why are you all looking at me?

• 42:36Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, everybody's looking at me. I get that though, because I, the first time I did it, I felt like I did good, but I felt like I could have been better. And I think I felt married to the material and like.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  Oh, sure, sure, sure.

• 42:47Drew Afualo?

  Where I think I shine in comedy is just kind of like riffing. So then the second time I did it, I like gave myself just like loose parameters and then that flowed better, I think, when I.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  Are you good with crowd work?

• 42:59Drew Afualo?

  I'm really good at crowd work, but I just never wanted to be a stand up that only did crowd work because then it's like, that's not the gig. Like the gig, because then it's just like.

• 43:06Speaker 03

  Sometimes you have to.

• 43:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you need, you need material, for sure you do. And I have, I have some material that I'm like, this would be so funny. If I said it, but if I gave that to a straight white guy, he'd sell out Madison Square Garden. If I gave that joke to him, he'd be on top of the world, bitch. He'd be doing something else.

• 43:25Speaker 03

  How much of your material do you put on your socials?

• 43:28Drew Afualo?

  None, really.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Good.

• 43:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, none of it.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  Keep it separate.

• 43:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's, some of my stand-up friends have said that that was kind of like annoying to them about stand-up getting popular online was like, um, it starts, people start taking jokes. Yeah, all your jokes, they start ripping them.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  Sometimes in New York, when I go to see like a comedian, like I've seen their, I've seen the joke, I've heard the joke before.

• 43:47Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy. Yeah, and it's, and it's not as, it doesn't hit as hard.

• 43:51Speaker 03

  It's hard to keep that material fresh.

• 43:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I did, uh, I did crowd work. I'll tell you who it was for after, but like when I did my second bit, but like, it went really well, but I did a lot of crowd work because like, the crowd was real active and it felt like they wanted it. And, um, I really, this was a very specific crowd, so I was leaning heavy into the men shit because like, it was a real girl power kind of crowd, so I was like, I knew they would laugh at those. They're not always gonna laugh at other jokes, like my white people jokes, they don't love. So like, I was like, I really have to keep that in mind sometimes. Uh, but I told this one joke, I was like, asking this one guy in the crowd, I was like, is this your girlfriend? And he goes, no, that's my sister.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 44:30Drew Afualo?

  Right? And then I go, oh. I was like, oh, my bad, I didn't know. And then I was like, I was like, but also, you guys do be doing that sometimes. I was like,

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Hey.

• 44:38Drew Afualo?

  Hey. Cousins by choice, lovers by choice, you know what I mean? Cousins by chance, lovers by choice. And that killed the room, but I did lose him. He did not laugh the rest of the time. I said, shit, my bad, bro.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  My bad. So sorry.

• 44:51Drew Afualo?

  I needed you to get ahead. I appreciate you.

• 44:53Speaker 03

  Come back when you're ready. I'm so sorry.

• 44:56Drew Afualo?

  I have had, have you had any like negative experiences doing stand-up? Or live performance, just generally?

• 45:02Speaker 03

  There was, um,

• 45:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I've had some pretty bad ones too.

• 45:06Speaker 03

  I'm, I haven't had like anything that's been like, I have, the performance has to stop or anything.

• 45:11Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  But I remember doing drag one time and, um, I was doing like a trick, and this is like early. I was doing some kind of trick, like I think maybe I was doing like a cartwheel or something.

• 45:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  Did not land the cartwheel. Somebody in the back goes, oh!

• 45:27Drew Afualo?

  Hey.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  I said, oh.

• 45:28Drew Afualo?

  That's fucked up. You don't need to commentate it.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:31Drew Afualo?

  We were all there. We all saw me not land it.

• 45:33Speaker 03

  I said,

• 45:40Drew Afualo?

  So fucked up. It's hard. That's not cool, don't do that. It's hard. When I was on tour last year with my sister, we were doing podcast live, so it's just live comedy, but it's riffing mostly and it's lots of crowd work, so we're involving the audience, but not in a way that gives them too much power, so they do get crazy. But it was like, you know, like Friday, Saturday nights notoriously are the rowdiest, because especially if it's 21 and over, because everyone's drinking, everyone's feeling good. And then some people start feeling like they're part of the show. Yeah. Which nothing annoys me more than that, so like... Yeah, like, "Sit down." Right, like, "Hey, you paid to come see me, alright." And so when we were in there, I was in Florida, this only happened in Florida, I think twice. Actually, no, it happened once somewhere else too, I can't remember where, I think it was Atlanta? Uh, no, no, no, it was like Chicago or something.

• 46:25Drew Afualo?

  It was somewhere. Either way. We were in Florida and we both, like, were kinda riffing and working with the crowd, like, telling jokes, whatever, and then, um, there were people like starting to really talk over, like, my sister, or when people in the crowd, like, I was asking them a question and they were answering it, and they were talking over and like giving their own commentary and like trying to make jokes, like, trying to be funny. And then like, at one point, I had just had it, like, I was like, the interrupting, there were people scooping ice, like, it was just, there was too much noise going on and it was pissing me off, and I've worked really hard to not be that person anymore. But I was literally sitting there and I was getting irritated and then someone interrupted again, and then I went, "I'm sorry, can you pause really quick? Who the fuck is talking?"

• 47:09Drew Afualo?

  And then it got quiet, like, it got so quiet, and I go, "Shut the fuck up, you guys paid to come watch us, okay?" Yeah, and then I, literally, I go, "Sorry, go ahead," 'cause this person's trying to tell me the story. Now, I don't know if it's shocking to hear, I did lose the room after that. Sure! I don't know if it's shocking to hear, I did lose the room. But that was because, I'm also laughing now, 'cause I'm realizing that Carrie and Kate were all there at that show, that is so funny. But it was like, it was one of those where it was like, I went a little too hard. Hey! And scared them into not laughing at all. Hey! Who can blame ya?

• 47:45Drew Afualo?

  After a while, I felt like I had to be like, it's okay, guys, you can laugh. It's okay. I'm not gonna yell. I'm sorry I yelled.

• 47:50Speaker 03

  Like your mom trying to apologize?

• 47:51Drew Afualo?

  Hey, look, we all said some things.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  Hey, come on down here and get you some food. You wanna go to Popeye? Yeah.

• 47:58Drew Afualo?

  Never addressing it again.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 48:00Drew Afualo?

  Sorry, guys.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  You had to get that out.

• 48:02Drew Afualo?

  I had, and then I was like, okay, that one's on me.

• 48:04Speaker 03

  Me personally, I would've lived. Yeah, shut the fuck up!

• 48:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, then the next show, when it happened again, I literally, at that show, I was like, hey, guys, let's not interrupt. Thanks, team. I had to be real gentle with them after that.

• 48:20Speaker 03

  I'll wait.

• 48:22Drew Afualo?

  I go, silent coyote.

• 48:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm sick to my stomach. But I get it, like, especially, I love hearing, I would love to hear about drag. How's that going?

• 48:33Speaker 03

  I think it's going good.

• 48:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  Um, it's, it's crazy.

• 48:36Drew Afualo?

  Missed future of drag.

• 48:37Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 48:38Drew Afualo?

  Per Bob the Drag Queen.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  Let, let's hear this out. Anania the Drag Queen.

• 48:42Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 48:43Speaker 03

  A thought. Just a thought.

• 48:45Drew Afualo?

  I mean, is she looking for children too?

• 48:48Speaker 03

  I'm sure her loins are also fertile.

• 48:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I bet. I guarantee.

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Uh, drag is going good. I'm at this point now where it's kind of hard to, I'm, I don't have a lot of time to do it. And especially because-

• 48:57Drew Afualo?

  You're so booked and busy, girl.

• 48:59Speaker 03

  It's like, yeah, it's like, I, it's, I wanna keep it like, uh, something that's fun.

• 49:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 49:06Speaker 03

  But I also like, I am kind of, I like, it's what I wanna do. I like, love doing it. I don't know. It's in this weird, like, limbo spot.

• 49:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's okay, though, if sometimes you have to, like, pause one to pursue others. Especially live performance, like, doing Broadway and stuff.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Uh, taking, uh, I had to take a break during, uh, Saturday church, which was like sad, but it was also like, I'm taking a break from one passion to do another.

• 49:29Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  So it's like a good problem to have.

• 49:31Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. And it also, I'm sure, made you even more confident in performance.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:35Drew Afualo?

  Like, doing drag.

• 49:35Speaker 03

  Like, yeah.

• 49:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  Like, I'm, I'm now, I'm like, really, um, I guess, like, hungry when I get to perform, when I have time to, you know?

• 49:42Drew Afualo?

  Okay, that's good, then.

• 49:43Speaker 03

  And I'm producing my, um, my own show coming up. It's called BPL, Black People Love. And my first category is maybe punk punk.

• 49:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, how exciting.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited.

• 49:53Drew Afualo?

  Well, that is, I'm glad to hear, though, that you were able to reinvigorate your love for it.

• 49:56Speaker 03

  Have to.

• 49:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you have, especially, because drag is so hard.

• 49:59Speaker 03

  It is hard. It's hard on the body, on my, on my poor bones.

• 50:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, I know.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  My poor, young, everlasting.

• 50:08Speaker 03

  Springful.

• 50:10Drew Afualo?

  Beautiful, stunning, gorgeous.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Cherubic.

• 50:14Drew Afualo?

  Cherublike?

• 50:15Speaker 03

  Cherublike. Cherublike.

• 50:18Drew Afualo?

  I got you. I was picking it up.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 50:22Drew Afualo?

  I do have some fun facts about you, though. We're gonna hard left really quick.

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 50:26Drew Afualo?

  Because I did get a warning that you need to get out of here.

• 50:29Speaker 03

  Oh, sure.

• 50:29Drew Afualo?

  So, we're keying, we're keying down.

• 50:32Speaker 03

  We're booked, we're booked, we're booked.

• 50:33Drew Afualo?

  I know. But I do have some fun facts about you.

• 50:35Speaker 03

  About me?

• 50:35Drew Afualo?

  Are you ready?

• 50:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 50:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, it says that you were in the flute section of your high school marching band.

• 50:41Speaker 03

  I wasn't.

• 50:41Drew Afualo?

  I, oh.

• 50:43Speaker 03

  Who said that?

• 50:44Drew Afualo?

  I was literally about to say I played the flute, and then we could not meet on that because you did not play the flute.

• 50:48Speaker 03

  I did not play the flute.

• 50:49Drew Afualo?

  Were you in band at all?

• 50:50Speaker 03

  I was.

• 50:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay, what, what did you do in band?

• 50:51Speaker 03

  I played saxophone.

• 50:53Drew Afualo?

  Okay, what the hell are you talking about, Amanda? Quitting.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Did you get that from ChatGPT?

• 50:59Drew Afualo?

  Of the flute section.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Me?

• 51:03Drew Afualo?

  Her justifying her error.

• 51:05Speaker 03

  Was I playing the flute?

• 51:07Drew Afualo?

  Wait, that low key makes sense, though, that you played the sax.

• 51:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that makes more sense.

• 51:11Speaker 03

  Oh, down, down, down, down, down.

• 51:12Drew Afualo?

  My sister played the sax. And she's a lesbian, so, you know.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  Right there. I also played, uh, meliphone for one year in marching band. That was fun.

• 51:19Drew Afualo?

  T.

• 51:20Speaker 03

  Love a br-. Love that. You bitches weren't becoming.

• 51:24Drew Afualo?

  I loved the flute. I was like, I was a big Woodwinds girl, but.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  Okay, are you ready to keep lying to me?

• 51:28Drew Afualo?

  I'm not lying to you.

• 51:29Speaker 03

  Apparently!

• 51:31Drew Afualo?

  We're lying about you.

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Right.

• 51:33Drew Afualo?

  On the comment section.

• 51:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, that wasn't a fun fact. That was just a made up thing.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  Here's another fun fact. Okay, it says you almost went to school for forensic psychology?

• 51:45Speaker 03

  That is true.

• 51:45Drew Afualo?

  Okay, T. Thank God, phew. Amanda gets to keep her job.

• 51:49Speaker 03

  That is true, yeah. I almost went to University of Iowa for forensic psychology.

• 51:53Drew Afualo?

  What did you like about that? What were you trying to do, like?

• 51:55Speaker 03

  I think I liked the idea of, uh, getting into like criminals' mind, criminal minds?

• 52:05Speaker 03

  And I had like a, I knew I had a passion for like psychology.

• 52:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, love.

• 52:10Speaker 03

  Like figure people out.

• 52:11Drew Afualo?

  Trying to understand.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  You know, and I figured that it would be a cool way to be like be in and like.

• 52:15Drew Afualo?

  Interesting.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  I just, this interesting plot, and I could have changed it.

• 52:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's tea.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  It was a filler if I wasn't talented enough.

• 52:23Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everybody has to have a backup.

• 52:24Speaker 03

  Anania Prime is a forensic psychologist right now.

• 52:29Drew Afualo?

  Professional Anania is a forensic psychologist.

• 52:31Speaker 03

  Anania Delta is on the comment section.

• 52:33Drew Afualo?

  Professional Anania is Sergeant Doakes. From Dexter.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Work.

• 52:39Drew Afualo?

  Okay, it says you used to work as a live performer at Storyland Theme Park in New Hampshire.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 52:47Drew Afualo?

  Okay, thank God we found that one.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  Let's move on.

• 52:51Drew Afualo?

  That was a dark period in your life.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Are they watching?

• 52:53Drew Afualo?

  In New Hampshire?

• 52:55Speaker 03

  Girl, the amusement park was, the amusement park was the only thing in the zip code.

• 52:59Drew Afualo?

  What?

• 53:00Speaker 03

  It was the only thing in that zip code.

• 53:01Drew Afualo?

  Was it like a, like what, what Storyland, like so it was like Legoland or like a?

• 53:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, like a, like a.

• 53:08Drew Afualo?

  Like story, like fables for kids kind of thing?

• 53:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 53:10Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 53:11Speaker 03

  It was kind of like Six Flags, but.

• 53:13Drew Afualo?

  I see, I see. What'd you play as a performer?

• 53:17Speaker 03

  I, we did, we did this, there wasn't much, okay, the problem with the gig was that there wasn't much performing.

• 53:23Drew Afualo?

  Right, okay.

• 53:24Speaker 03

  They hired actors to work at an amusement park.

• 53:27Drew Afualo?

  Oh, like you were just working the rides?

• 53:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. I can't talk too much about this because I did almost get fired.

• 53:35Drew Afualo?

  I've been fired, it's okay.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  No, it's.

• 53:38Drew Afualo?

  For not good things? Not like there's ever a good reason.

• 53:41Speaker 03

  Let's just say, when it was time for me to work, I was not working.

• 53:48Speaker 03

  They could not find me.

• 53:51Drew Afualo?

  Hey, well, you know what, if you made me dress up like that?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 53:55Drew Afualo?

  To press buttons for a ride?

• 53:56Speaker 03

  I was never in a, I did do mascot training, actually.

• 54:00Drew Afualo?

  OT.

• 54:01Speaker 03

  I was never the, the, I think it was a dinosaur or something.

• 54:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay.

• 54:04Speaker 03

  Because my arms were too long.

• 54:06Drew Afualo?

  Tea, too tall.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  The gloves didn't fit.

• 54:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, too tall, giving body.

• 54:10Speaker 03

  I was.

• 54:11Drew Afualo?

  You said I was serving too much body.

• 54:12Speaker 03

  I was curvy, honey. Yes.

• 54:15Drew Afualo?

  I did, when I graduated from college, I played, um, Moana, the movie had just come out. So I did her character acting for like, a little bit after college, because I didn't want to get a real job. So I was like, I mean, fuck it. It was real bad, like, and honestly, doing character work in any capacity, even in the bullshit way I was doing it, is awful. It's so bad. Men are so perverted towards like, stuff like that.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  If kids, if a kid comes up to me and they're not willing to play.

• 54:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 54:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  Like, I see your eyebrow cover. You know what I mean?

• 54:51Drew Afualo?

  I can literally see it. Why do you have that? Like, they're like pointing at you. Why does your face look like that?

• 55:01Drew Afualo?

  I got hit on more times than I could count, uh, playing a child Disney princess.

• 55:06Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 55:07Drew Afualo?

  To the point where I worked three gigs, quit. I was like, I can't do this shit anymore. It's fucking gross and weird. And I, the way my temper is set up, they can't ha- they can't watch Moana beat the shit out of their dad. That's not a good thing to do. Not on their birthday.

• 55:25Drew Afualo?

  And I also can't sing, so that was another, I would just teach them dances, I would never sing them.

• 55:29Speaker 03

  I feel like you can sing.

• 55:31Drew Afualo?

  Everybody says that, but I, and I, and I, I appreciate the like, vote of confidence.

• 55:36Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 55:36Drew Afualo?

  But I think that if I really were to sing for real, I would be so humiliated. I don't think I've ever been more embarrassed than thinking about singing for real.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  Oh, my god, okay, okay, okay. Maybe I won't dredge this back up for you.

• 55:47Drew Afualo?

  I'm so afraid of people hearing me sing, because I hate not being good at things, and that's something I'm not the best at. You know, is what it is. We can't all be Anania, sorry.

• 55:57Speaker 03

  I, okay. I guess we can't.

• 55:59Drew Afualo?

  Uh, it says, "You have performed in tons of plays and musicals over the years, but one of your first was a high school production of Twelve Angry Men."

• 56:07Speaker 03

  That is one of the first.

• 56:08Drew Afualo?

  That's so interesting, Twelve Angry Men?

• 56:11Speaker 03

  This investigative journalism is crazy.

• 56:13Drew Afualo?

  I know, that's my, that's my in-house Nardwar.

• 56:15Speaker 03

  Whoa! Yeah, um, I-

• 56:20Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy, a musical about twelve angry men.

• 56:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, um, there was like a character that was obviously supposed to be a black kid, like a black person. But I was not that.

• 56:32Speaker 03

  And I had to sit next to the person, the white ki- like the white person who was playing the black kid. It was fun.

• 56:39Drew Afualo?

  Oh, such a good time.

• 56:41Speaker 03

  Great fun. Great fun. Great fun. Great fun.

• 56:46Drew Afualo?

  Man, fuck that movie.

• 56:49Drew Afualo?

  Fuck that movie. I had to watch that dumbass movie in college for like a class or something.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  It's like, it's like just interesting enough to finish it.

• 56:57Drew Afualo?

  Right, and it's one of those where it's like, I get it, like, I understand, I guess, like, logistically, why it would be like, whoa, just a crazy movie, but it's nothing like, I don't know, like the Sonic movies or anything, like, let's not pretend. Let's not sit and act like that's as good as Trolls. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes I really do feel like a dumb bitch in that regard, because I like, I go, I've never seen that, but have you seen Hobbs and Shaw? Like, that's a great movie.

• 57:20Speaker 03

  I will say Madagascar two is my favorite movie.

• 57:22Drew Afualo?

  I love Madagascar. I recently rewatched the Night at the Museum movies, and I was laughing my ass off.

• 57:28Speaker 03

  Get into that.

• 57:29Drew Afualo?

  I was laughing my ass off, dude. And I was literally thinking like, God, no, the Oscars just don't know what they're talking about.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  The Actor Awards.

• 57:37Drew Afualo?

  The Actor Awards, sorry. They're no longer.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  Egot.

• 57:42Drew Afualo?

  Whatever. Okay, and then last one, in college at Emerson, it says you co-hosted a live student award show called The Ebbies?

• 57:48Speaker 03

  I did, yeah, with my best friend Cedric.

• 57:52Drew Afualo?

  How did that come about?

• 57:53Speaker 03

  Um, it was kind of like that thing, okay, they usually did it in pairs.

• 57:57Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 57:57Speaker 03

  And I think my, my freshman year, I was in the production, like, I did like a, a dancing thing and like backed up for it, like backup song, backup song for it. Um, it was just like fun. And me and Cedric, um, we're really close and we riff off of each other well and we both sang and all that other stuff, but when we did it, it was, um, during the pandemic.

• 58:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 58:18Speaker 03

  So we had to wear a mask the whole time, there was like no audience, there was just like a teleprompter and it was all virtual. It kind of sucked, but it was like, it was such a, it was a fun experience.

• 58:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the opportunity was cool to do, like the best you could have done at the time.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  Because the year before, it was like this whole production, like you stay after school closes to watch, and like, if you get dominated, it's like this whole thing, it's like a little.

• 58:39Drew Afualo?

  Fun.

• 58:39Speaker 03

  It's like a little Emmys.

• 58:41Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 58:42Speaker 03

  That's fun.

• 58:43Drew Afualo?

  That is a fun fact.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  That is a fun.

• 58:49Drew Afualo?

  Well, that brings us to the end of this episode. Because your team's gonna kill me if I keep you any longer. But I am so happy to have you.

• 58:56Speaker 03

  Because we gotta get you on Gator!

• 58:59Drew Afualo?

  Yes, we have things to do, people to see. But I need to take a serious moment for just a second and tell you I fucking love you.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  I fucking love you!

• 59:06Drew Afualo?

  And I have, truly, I will sing your praises to anyone that will ask me. And I recommend you to a lot of things, like, all the time.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  Thank you so much!

• 59:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course. And I'm just so happy that now I feel like the internet is starting to catch up with your fucking star power.

• 59:21Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 59:21Drew Afualo?

  And I think you're incredible and amazing. And something I did write in the Washington Post thing too was that everybody needs to stamp their ticket for, before Anania wins her Tony, because I already know that's gonna happen.

• 59:31Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 59:32Drew Afualo?

  And I'm gonna be the first one to be like, "I said it, I said it, I knew it."

• 59:36Speaker 03

  You are so sweet, thank you.

• 59:37Drew Afualo?

  I love you.

• 59:38Speaker 03

  I am a huge, huge fan of yours and I'm always rooting for you.

• 59:41Drew Afualo?

  Likewise.

• 59:41Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 59:42Drew Afualo?

  And I think you're incredible and amazing, and I'm so happy you came back. Thank you so much for coming on the show, I fucking love you! Is there anything else you'd like to promote before we sign off?

• 59:50Speaker 03

  Um, yes. Follow me, Anania00, watch all my content, watch Gator, Gator Show on Instagram and TikTok and on YouTube. And, uh, we'll see you on the flip side.

• 1:00:00Drew Afualo?

  Amazing. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Anania, for coming back for an All-Star episode. Thank you so much for tuning in. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section come out every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, hello. But the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platforms, Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Anania. Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you next week. Bye!

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