Pod Insights Girls Gotta Eat The Snack: Fast Food Wars, Timothee Chalamet, and Marathon Chaos About this episode Welcome back to The Snack – a lighter serving of Girls Gotta Eat. This week, we're talking about:
McDonald's CEO product launch flop + competitor responses
Power ranking of the best fast food items
Timothee Chalamet's shades ballet and opera
Love is Blind political bias
Daryl Hannah speaks out about her Love Story portrayal
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0:01 Ashley Hesseltine? This week on the snack, Timothy Chalamet, fast food wars and marathon chaos. This is a Dear Media production. Enjoy.
0:15 Rayna Greenberg? Hi.
0:15 Ashley Hesseltine? Hi.
0:17 Rayna Greenberg? I'm going to give you a weather report. Us in New York, we have, we have made it as a collective family. It is 70 degrees today. We got through the marathon.
0:26 Ashley Hesseltine? Blizzards.
0:27 Rayna Greenberg? And it's 70 degrees and beautiful.
0:30 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, it's 66 and cloudy in LA. So we are coming to you guys from both coasts. Raina's in New York, I'm in LA, but mentally, I'm still in Singapore.
0:42 Rayna Greenberg? Do you miss it so much?
0:43 Ashley Hesseltine? I miss it so much. It is, it was the best time of my life. I, if you guys are new around here, I just took my honeymoon slash brand trip to Singapore and we will recap it on the Monday episode. My current husband is going to be the guest host. So Raina's taking a week off of a Monday episode, which is unprecedented.
1:05 Rayna Greenberg? First time, first time ever.
1:06 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. So I will talk more about it then, but no, it was really like so wonderful. And I just, I wish I was still there.
1:13 Rayna Greenberg? I wish you were still there too. I know. Well, welcome back.
1:18 Rayna Greenberg? Well, it doesn't affect me because we're long distance this week. So, so no matter what, I would be looking at you across the screen. I wish it were you. Okay. Well, let's thank some of our partners and then we'll get right into it. Thank you to Shopify. See how easy it is to start your own business at Shopify.com/GGE.
1:33 Ashley Hesseltine? And thank you to Quince. Get free shipping and 365 day returns on your next order at quince.com/GGE.
1:41 Rayna Greenberg? Okay. So we are just going to kick it off with a fast food report. This has been sweeping the nation. Battle of the CEOs, essentially.
1:52 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes. So the McDonald's CEO, they filmed him trying their new burger, the Big Arch Burger. So it is really a mouthful. It's huge. And he starts off by saying, we love this product. So people immediately pounce on this. They're like, it's, it's interesting to call your food this product. Well, I'd say item.
2:16 Rayna Greenberg? Like item, totally.
2:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Items, yeah, this menu item. Like saying, like, I'm gonna try this food is weird, too. Food's not the word. It's item, menu item.
2:27 Rayna Greenberg? Menu item, totally, menu item.
2:30 Ashley Hesseltine? And the product is that. Like, what are we eating here?
2:34 Rayna Greenberg? Product is giving not edible. I mean, the, the word product says to me, we are not, we're not eating this.
2:40 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
2:40 Rayna Greenberg? So he slides it over. He already, listen, I'm not slamming his appearance, his outfit is not giving, I eat McDonald's.
2:47 Ashley Hesseltine? Harvard dork, right? Like, that's, that's not even a slide. It's just, that's what he is. He's like this nerdy CEO. And like, more than anything, I want to see this fucking guy take a giant bite of this burger. Like, the way he looks, like, in his business casual, like, I want to see him fucking chomp into it.
3:07 Rayna Greenberg? You're like, surprise me, delight me, dazzle me. And he looks like he's there to give tax information. Like, I would let that guy from, like, H and R Block or TurboTax do my taxes this season. But not, I don't want to get product information from him about McDonald's items. So he takes a bite and it's the smallest bite, which is funny because the item is so big. Okay, you know what I think about when I zoom out is like all the other people that were probably in the room, the social media person that helped write this, the camera person, the lighting person. Like, was anybody like, let's get this, let's pick it up a little bit. Let's get really more excited than this.
3:45 Ashley Hesseltine? So he takes a nibble is the only word that can describe what he takes. But the language is even funny. He's like, it is so good. I'm gonna do a tasty right now. I'm gonna eat this for lunch, just so you know. Like, he is like, really trying to convince, like, someone just lying through their teeth. You're not eating this for lunch.
4:02 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, no, I can tell by your outfit, you're not eating this for lunch, sir. And you and I love to think about the BTS of like couples together, having like special moments that they film. Like, how many times did they run it? Like, I filmed this man on the street thing the other day, which you've done also. It's called, Are You Okay? And I had the host, I had a producer, I had a lighting person, and I had a camera person to film like a one-minute Instagram video. And like, I'm assuming McDonald's has more than that. And he has an assistant, a secretary, people like, no one was like, let's change the wording and the vibes a little bit.
4:33 Ashley Hesseltine? No, no one was like, we have to redo it. You don't look like you're enjoying the product. So it took off immediately and so many other fast food brands responded. You know, Wendy's was on top of it immediately.
4:49 Rayna Greenberg? First comment.
4:50 Ashley Hesseltine? So Wendy's, and then they filmed their own version. So Wendy's, Burger King, the presidents of these companies crushed it. Obviously, Jack in the Box, which I've never had in my life, but my husband eats it more than he would like to admit. They did this one that was like, small bites, we don't do that around here. And they used the viral Kendall Tool Peloton, like, get them banned, get them banned, we don't do that here, like, audio with it.
5:20 Speaker 02 Get them banned. We don't do that here. Oh, now I'm pissed.
5:25 Rayna Greenberg? The comments on the post too, on McDonald's, I mean, people flooded it and all these branded accounts, obviously.
5:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Just flaming it.
5:32 Rayna Greenberg? Carl's Jr., you sure you want to take a bite of that? You have Pepsi, get in here. What's a bite without a sip of Pepsi? Pepsi, you could have gone harder on this, okay?
5:43 Ashley Hesseltine? No, no.
5:44 Rayna Greenberg? I know. Pepsi, you could have talked harder shit.
5:46 Ashley Hesseltine? And then also, what does the Slack channel look like when Pepsi's about to respond? Like, are they like Pepsi, it's time to go in, like, the social team? And then that's all they come up with too? Like, I'm disappointed there.
5:57 Rayna Greenberg? All right, I am disappointed in how they workshopped it. Jack in the Box did great. From one CEO to another, you should eat your product. So Jack in the Box, a little straightforward. We could have punched it up a bit, but it lived the talking shit.
6:08 Ashley Hesseltine? But then they did their response video, it was great.
6:09 Rayna Greenberg? Right, yeah, they did a diss track. Wendy's, your CEO reads this as a threat.
6:15 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't understand that.
6:16 Rayna Greenberg? I don't understand it either. But I like all these branded accounts.
6:20 Ashley Hesseltine? It must be Gen Z.
6:21 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
6:22 Ashley Hesseltine? And then there's all these parodies on top of it. So the number one that people have sent me is someone pretending to be the Dasani CEO and just a cup of water that has like a piece of tape written Dasani in Sharpie. And he's just like, do I really have to drink this? Like, so many people have sent it to me because I've been flaming Dasani for years. And I was thinking, what are the things that I couldn't pretend to like? And Dasani is up there. Like, I don't think-
6:52 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, you can never.
6:53 Ashley Hesseltine? I feel like I've been leading this charge of hate for Dasani for years. Also Aquafina, they get, they, it's just as bad. They don't get enough hate. They get their water from the same pool, whatever. And I was just thinking of like, what I couldn't pretend to like, like Dasani, Aquafina, same thing. Matcha, green dirt. You have been that matcha hate train forever. And then if we're talking fast food, the one item I feel like I might not be able to pretend to like is the McRib. It is always giving me the ick. And I know it's like a cult favorite, but I think most fast food items I'm not eating on the regular and they're like, a lot of them
7:34 Ashley Hesseltine? are really gluttonous and they gross me out a little bit, but I could enjoy a bite of most things besides the McRib.
7:41 Rayna Greenberg? I'm surprised you haven't come around on Dasani because it is the official water of Delta and honestly, the entire airport. So like-
7:49 Ashley Hesseltine? It's so offensive. I can't, I can't believe it. It's not spring water. It's like disgusting pool water.
7:56 Rayna Greenberg? Okay. I think what I can't, people are gonna really get mad at me for this one. But I think, actually, I will say, I think universally, people agree it's not good are the french fries at In-N-Out. Like people universally do not think they're good unless you load them up animal style, right? Like that's a thing?
8:10 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, they're, they don't, they're not on par with the burger. It's, it's a shame. You want them to be better than they are.
8:18 Rayna Greenberg? They're just, they're a little too processed for me, which I'm a processed ass girl. Okay? I love McDonald's fries, Wendy's fries, Shake Shack fries. Shake Shack tried to do fresh cut fries. I love Wendy's fries. Shake Shack tried to do fresh cut fries and people like revolted and they had to go back to the old fries.
8:37 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. Okay. So on that note, we are going to do our power ranking of best fast food items. And Raina has recently revealed to me that she doesn't really know fast food and she didn't grow up eating fast food. And I don't understand this. Like I thought she was more down to earth than this. I don't know where this bougie bitch is coming from, that you didn't eat fast food in high school.
9:00 Rayna Greenberg? First of all, you just had to differentiate between- Um, drive-throughs and all. So there's a lot of places I didn't know just didn't have a drive-through. I didn't, I didn't have, even have a car, by the way, till I got to college. So I didn't drive, but I guess some of my friends drove. Yeah, I really only grew up with Wendy's. That was kinda it. My mom was in charge of all food decisions. She cooked every single night. I don't think my friends and I went anywhere except for Wendy's. It was the only place close enough to drive. My, my, um, my high school was like in the middle of the city, like Taco Bell wasn't around, KFC wasn't around, McDonald's wasn't around. I've asked myself many times. I don't think I've ever been to Burger King. I wasn't actively trying to avoid it.
9:38 Ashley Hesseltine? We grew up in the fast food era, like McDonald's, kids meal, McDonald's Play Place. You never went to a birthday party in a Wendy's sunroom or McDonald's Play Place? Like, these were iconic times. Like, I don't know if you guys, this is a deep cut, McDonald's, when they had the Happy Meals with the mini Barbies. Like, they, I mean, and again, my family was not a really big fast food family. I'm not a big fast food person. I'm a pretty healthy person. My, that's just not what we got down with, but like, it was such a treat. And then in high school, I mean, if we skipped out and went to lunch, like always Wendy's, we were always up in that sunroom. I wish I was in a Wendy's sunroom right now, but it's just, we would get fast food all the time.
10:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, I just remember one of my friends, I always wanted to be at Burger King. Like, we were just, that was the life.
10:25 Rayna Greenberg? I'm jealous of these childhood memories. I'm hearing you talk about it. It was sparkle and whimsy, and I wish that it was my experience. We just had Wendy's, no Taco Bell, no KFC. I didn't have any of those things until college.
10:38 Ashley Hesseltine? Which is crazy.
10:39 Rayna Greenberg? That's what it was. That's what it was. I mean, it was in like, my high school was like in a neighborhood. Yeah, I grew up in a small town, but we had all the fast food places.
10:47 Ashley Hesseltine? I know. Listen, I don't know, maybe my, maybe we just didn't drive that far. We went to Pizza Hut a lot. Obviously, Pizza Hut, the book it program. Like, I was at Pizza Hut every week, getting my personal pan pizza, because I read so much. So let's rank our fast food items. And the requirement is drive-through.
11:06 Ashley Hesseltine? So Shake Shack doesn't count. I don't think if Shake Shack is fast food, neither does Reina. And if Shake Shack was included in this, they would win every category. They're a different, elevated, they don't count. Five Guys, even a little more elevated. Like, drive-through is the guideline. So, like, old school. And like, I want to start by saying, like, I don't eat fast food a lot, hardly ever now. And so, I'm not like a connoisseur. Mine are going to be more classics, which I think what we should be ranking anyway. Like, I don't know all the new shit. I don't know what Sonic is doing. They're always doing something crazy. They're always got so many different types of products. I see commercials for them. But, so, these are our top five.
11:46 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, I need to double down just by saying, Five Guys and Shake Shack, made to order. You can order certain things on, on, off. I mean, it's a totally different experience and press point.
11:54 Ashley Hesseltine? So, no drive-through.
11:55 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, and like Chipotle, that's fast casual. Like, fast food, fast casual is a different category. If there's a line you walk down and you can order certain things into it, made to order, not fast food.
12:05 Ashley Hesseltine? 100%. Yep, there it is. Okay.
12:08 Rayna Greenberg? How are you going to rank them?
12:10 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm going top to bottom.
12:12 Rayna Greenberg? Okay.
12:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Number one to number five. And I have one honorable mention. I just got really excited doing this. Okay.
12:19 Rayna Greenberg? Okay.
12:20 Ashley Hesseltine? My number one, Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich. It's literally the best. It is the gold standard. I would eat a Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich over a lot of, like, famed, popular restaurant chicken sandwiches. Like, it is that good. I don't trust anybody who doesn't like it. I know you can have issues with the brand as a whole, but like, you can't deny that is the best chicken sandwich in existence. And I really, anyone who says they don't like it, like, it's sus to me. That's the best. That's the best chicken that exists.
12:49 Rayna Greenberg? I knew it would be your number one, so much so that I seeded it to you and I picked a different menu item from Chick-fil-A just to let you have that.
12:57 Ashley Hesseltine? In your ranking? Okay.
12:59 Rayna Greenberg? Yep.
12:59 Ashley Hesseltine? Um, number two, Cheesy Gordita Crunch. This was revolutionary. It still is. The Taco Bell Cheesy Gordita Crunch, a hard taco inside a soft taco. This is, it's legendary.
13:15 Rayna Greenberg? Yep.
13:15 Ashley Hesseltine? They introduced it, I remember, and then they took it off the menu for a little bit, and then it came back. And now, I do think it is permanent. Again, I'm not an expert, but just an unbelievable menu item from Taco Bell.
13:27 Rayna Greenberg? Unbelievable.
13:28 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, third, Wendy's Frosty.
13:32 Ashley Hesseltine? And then, of course, you can dip McDonald's fries in that. That's such a delicacy. I'm not crazy about Wendy's fries. I think they're too thick and too soggy and not salty enough. But McDonald's fries dipped into Wendy's Frosty, but just my number three is a Wendy's Frosty. Like, there's really nothing like that. It's thicker than a milkshake, thinner than ice cream. It's not even, it's considered a frozen dessert. It's just, again, it's like a revolutionary menu item. Okay, number four, Arby's Curly Fries.
13:58 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, that was a good one. That was a great call.
14:01 Ashley Hesseltine? Those are the, I think those are the best fast food fries.
14:03 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, they hold their crisp really well and they're seasoned.
14:05 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes.
14:06 Rayna Greenberg? Nice color.
14:07 Ashley Hesseltine? They're restaurant quality to me. Like, those are like, you're gonna get them at Hillstone vibes from Arby's.
14:13 Rayna Greenberg? Totally.
14:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, and my number five, I did want to put a burger in here, and so I am just gonna go with In-N-Out. Like, it, that is the best burger to me. Like, I really do love a Burger King Whopper, but I just think In-N-Out, we're here in LA, like, if we're going actual fast food, I do think that's the top. And I don't need the double double. A regular cheeseburger is fine. So I'm just going In-N-Out for the cheeseburger. And my honorable mention, because I wanted to stick to five, is a sausage egg McMuffin.
14:48 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, that was a good one. Okay, no, that's a great honorable mention.
14:52 Ashley Hesseltine? McDonald's breakfast hits.
14:55 Rayna Greenberg? No, it does. I didn't have it till later in life.
14:58 Ashley Hesseltine? No.
14:59 Rayna Greenberg? Um, okay, I like your list. I knew you were gonna do Cheesy Gorgita Crunch, and I knew you were gonna do Chick-fil-A, so I actually seeded those two and picked alternative items.
15:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, well, I, I was torn between the Cheesy Gorgita Crunch and the Crunch Wrap Supreme, but, okay, I don't want to step on your toes, so.
15:16 Rayna Greenberg? It was really hard for me to honestly just like narrow this stuff down. Okay, I'm going five to one.
15:25 Rayna Greenberg? Is it crazy that as an adult, I've made worse choices for my body than when I was growing up? As like a 10-year-old, I was like, fuck for me.
15:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Right, I've really gotten to fast food later in life. And I don't want to, like, step on your choices, but after you're done, I, I want to share some, some thoughts on you and your fast food later in life journey.
15:42 Rayna Greenberg? I know what you're gonna do. Okay, well, um, I know what you're gonna say, and I'm gonna start with number five. I'm gonna start with KFC mashed potatoes and gravy.
15:54 Rayna Greenberg? Don't do this.
15:57 Ashley Hesseltine? In college?
16:00 Ashley Hesseltine? In college, bitch, you have been eating this since we were friends. You would leave the studio in New York and stop by KFC on the way home on 14th Street. I was like, you, that KFC looks so scary to me and you're just there all the time.
16:15 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, that was a secret that I shared with you and I thought we were in a, I thought we were in the trust circle. Okay. And in college, I used to get it on the way up to Bloomington and I would put the bucket of mashed potatoes on my lap and I would eat the mashed potatoes with gravy as I drove up to college on the highway.
16:34 Rayna Greenberg? It's also a great, it's also a great road trip food.
16:37 Ashley Hesseltine? I don't know if I've ever had them. I did used to get down with some Boston Market mashed potatoes and like.
16:43 Rayna Greenberg? Boston Market mac and cheese.
16:45 Ashley Hesseltine? Mac and cheese.
16:46 Rayna Greenberg? But I, I had to Google if they had a drive through because I knew you weren't going to let me include the mac and cheese.
16:50 Ashley Hesseltine? It's, yeah, I feel like it doesn't really count. Okay. So you're going bottom to top. Okay. What's next? What's number four?
16:56 Rayna Greenberg? Okay. This is, this is going to surprise you. I had to look up number one, if they had a drive through and number two, how many locations do they have? Cause I wanted chicken fingers, but I knew again, you do Chick-fil-A. So Dave's Hot Chicken. Have you had their chicken fingers?
17:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Does this count? They're, they're a drive through?
17:11 Rayna Greenberg? 300 locations and a drive through.
17:14 Ashley Hesseltine? So I was, I was like, I gotta make sure.
17:16 Rayna Greenberg? The other day. Yep. I like the spice. I like, I like the dips. I really like their chicken fingers. Okay. Number three, Chick-fil-A mac and cheese. They always have the crispy, the crispy part of it at the top. Like they include that in every single one and I love that. Okay. Number two, Crunchwrap Supreme. You take one little bite and then you squeeze a lot of hot sauce in there and you let it just hold the hot sauce. But also I'm with you, Cheesy Gordita Crunch, I could go either way. They're both really incredible.
17:47 Ashley Hesseltine? The way we're talking about these, they're just both really incredible dishes, honestly. Like hard to choose.
17:54 Rayna Greenberg? Sometimes you go to a restaurant, you're like, why is this so expensive? And I could have gotten this, a Chick-fil-A for better. My number one is a mix of, I like how it tastes and it's nostalgic. So Wendy's is my number one fast food restaurant. I like the, um, the Asiago bacon ranch spicy chicken sandwich.
18:13 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, Wendy's does a good spicy chicken. That's a, that's a great call.
18:17 Rayna Greenberg? I, I wanted to, listen, it was hard for me to pick Wendy's because Frosty's amazing. The Baconator, amazing. The Asiago Ranch Bacon Spicy Chicken Sandwich, though, it has all the things I like.
18:29 Ashley Hesseltine? I like a Wendy's burger too. I mean, Wendy's is the number one that I went to growing up and in high school. And they, they still do a square patty was another thing?
18:41 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
18:41 Ashley Hesseltine? Like their patty, I just really liked the, the patty. The fries never really hit for me, but we also grew up with a Wendy's salad bar. I mean, we had like a true nineties Wendy's with a salad bar, a sunroom. Like it really was iconic and probably right now it's like a place to get your, like turn in your car title. It's probably like, you know what I'm saying? Like one of those tax title loans places. Yeah, no more birthday parties.
19:07 Rayna Greenberg? Wendy's had, I mean, my dad took us to Wendy's like strictly, we had, we had no money. He was like, we'll just go to Wendy's every weekend. But like, I don't remember a salad bar. I remember the Pizza Hut buffet.
19:17 Ashley Hesseltine? They were rare.
19:17 Rayna Greenberg? The Pizza Hut buffet.
19:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, for sure. Wendy's salad bar, really rare, really exclusive. So we did have one in Smyrna, Delaware. Okay. So those are fast food power ranking. Let us know your faves. I've just had, had this on my mind for a long time that I wanted to do this and this was the perfect timing. So anyway, thank you to McDonald's for bringing all this to the forefront and creating this hilarious cultural moment for everybody.
19:43 Rayna Greenberg? Yes.
19:44 Ashley Hesseltine? And let's move on to Timothy Chalamet.
19:48 Rayna Greenberg? So Timothy Chalamet, he gave an interview with Matthew McConaughey. So it was a CNN and Variety Town Hall event. So it was pretty widely streamed. Matthew McConaughey was the moderator and they're talking about his career essentially. And he said that he didn't want to go, um, into, go the way of ballet or opera where artists want to, um, keep things alive even though no one cares.
20:14 Ashley Hesseltine? And people had had had strong reactions to to this. Yeah, so he took these shots at ballet and opera, but then he kind of did realize he took a shot and he is like, no offense to the ballet and the opera people. And then he made another joke of like, I've probably lost 14 cents of viewership. And then he was like, I'm just taking shots for no reason. Like, to me, it was weird for him to say that. It was weird. He comes across like a dick, but then I do think he tried to make light of it. And like, the tone was light, like, we should be able to say things we don't like without people canceling us or being so offended.
20:54 Ashley Hesseltine? Like, it was a weird move. It was weird for him as an artist. It's his whole family that are ballet dancers. He grew up like around the New York City Ballet. That's so there's a whole part of it like that. Like, it's, it was a bizarre take. I do think he was trying to make a joke. It felt like lighter and then he even realized it, you know, like, I feel like you or I would get caught up with something like that, like taking a shot at something and being like, oh, no offense, you know, I don't know why I'm taking these shots for no reason. But Pete, it went crazy. So I saw this a couple nights ago and I was like, okay, this is interesting. And then I saw KFC post it and then I saw the Shade Room post Doja Cat's response to it. And I'm like, oh, like other celebrities are responding. This is going huge.
21:38 Ashley Hesseltine? The View is talking about it. Like, this has gone so viral and I didn't really expect it to take off the way it did. So I'm not that surprised that it went so huge. You're definitely allowed to say you don't like something. There's tons of stuff I don't like. I actually, when people ask me about going to the ballet or opera, it's not where I tend to spend my money. I like, when I think about where I spend my money, it's usually food, travel, like, it's, it's not the number one place I spend my money. But for this big A-list movie star to say that the ballet and the opera is something that like, we're just trying to keep this thing alive, even though no one cares. It feels like you're punching down on all these people that are feeder kids that are making less money, that have less exposure, that's not getting the same type of worldwide media attention that something like Marty Supreme would get.
22:22 Ashley Hesseltine? They're not getting these worldwide press tours. It just, it feels mean and it feels like punching down. And that's why I think I would have a problem with it if I was in one of these industries. Nobody wants to see like one of the biggest stars in the world punching down on other industries and saying like, this is something that no one cares about, so I didn't get into it. It's like, ooh, yikes. Oh, totally. Yes. And I don't know, he's flying a little too close to the sun. I think he's gotten so much attention. I think that he has been coming across as really cocky. I think that people want him to be humbled. Like, I don't know that this is necessarily so much about ballet and opera. A lot of people are pissed about this, and a lot of these people, I'm sure, have never been to
23:07 Ashley Hesseltine? the ballet or the opera. Like, it's about Timothy Chalamet. I saw this quote, this was on Betch's Instagram just before we recorded. "If we're being honest with ourselves, the severity of the reaction feels less about a global surge of opera defenders and more about a collective itch to humble Timothy Chalamet just a little bit." So, that's what it feels like. I don't, he came across like a dick. I don't know that it mattered what he said. You're welcome to disagree with me, but it doesn't feel like, "Oh, my God, how could you talk about the ballet or the opera?" It feels like, "We have made you too famous, and you aren't who we thought you were." And I saw Phoebe Robinson, who I love, she's just dragging everybody and anybody these days, from two dope queens. She posted a video and she was like, you know, the sentiment was basically, we think
23:51 Ashley Hesseltine? he's like this skinny white kid, this like indie movie artsy guy who's like inside reading books, and he's not. He's a bro. He is obsessed with sports. He wants to be a rapper, which is, I mean, he is essentially, I guess, like he's dating a Kardashian Jenner. Like, I think people thought of him as this America sweetheart type, and now he just kind of seems like an asshole, and it has really inflamed people. It's surprising to me. It's so much more than the opera and the ballet comments, because the way this has taken off and the vitriol against him.
24:26 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah, I don't think it would have mattered what he was shitting on, essentially. I mean, I know that specifically the ballet and opera, these are theater kids, they're tangential to the acting world, and this person who has like chosen a field where you make more money is punching down on it. But I just, I think that the bigger you get, unfortunately, the more like kind of responsibility you have to act humble, give other people their flowers, and not act like this. I don't think it would have mattered what he picked.
24:50 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. I mean, theater kids, I don't know, ballet dancers aren't Necessarily theater kids opera is like a very specific talent like theater kids. I think a Broadway. I think if he would have said like something about Broadway, it would have been even worse. You know, like
25:02 Rayna Greenberg? Oh, my God.
25:02 Ashley Hesseltine? Ballet opera kinda, kinda
25:04 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
25:04 Ashley Hesseltine? Kinda niche. Like, I was trying to think of what was comparable. It's not necessarily radio. It, I don't know. What if we were like, yeah, nobody reads newspapers anymore. It would be such a weird out of pocket thing to say. Like, I would never say this, but I'm not Timothy Chalamet, you know, and I, I think he is like cocky and can be kind of an asshole. Also, a little refreshing to see someone that's not media trained, that's that famous. That's gonna spout off at the mouth like that, but I would never do that. It's so weird. I wouldn't really shade any art form, especially in my direct industry. So people are asking, will this affect his Oscar chances? I mean, I don't know, like
25:49 Ashley Hesseltine? maybe I, maybe I'm not educated enough on the Oscars. Like, isn't this kind of already been chosen? Like, does public opinion matter that much a week out? Like, I don't, I was surprised that that's even a question.
26:01 Rayna Greenberg? I think that that's, I think that that's thinking the public opinion matters. And I thought that the Oscars and all of these award shows were kind of not rigged, but you know, there's certain people that are pre-selected. I mean, how many times do, do I see like movies that are selected for Best Picture or whatever? And I'm just like, oh, I don't care about that, you know?
26:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Sure. I just thought a week out, they'd been selected already, I guess. But I guess they can make changes at any time. I don't know enough about it. And again, I think some of it's kind of rigged, but I am here for Michael B. Jordan potentially winning. That's who they're saying would win if Timothy Chalamet didn't, which, I mean, he was just so incredible in Sinners. Nikki B. Jerkin, I think about, I think about Michael B. Jordan. So I'm like here for that 100% but
26:46 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, I think, you know, people in LA, they hold space to cancel anybody that is gonna cancel. But I don't think this is a cancelable offense. I think it was sort of like Not a Freudian slip, but listen, we all say things in our private conversations that we would not publicly say to other people. And I think he just kind of like forgot where he was. This is not a cancelable offense to me.
27:07 Ashley Hesseltine? It's not cancelable, but it's like, people get upset when someone appears to not be who they thought they were. But it's like, this is why we shouldn't ever hold celebrities on this pedestal. And this didn't offend me, like personally, but he made another comment recently that didn't get as much play, that I feel like now is the perfect time to bring this up. So this was a few months ago, in November, and this was in his Vogue article. And he was talking about people who don't want to have kids. Did you see this? This didn't pick up a lot of steam. And I meant to maybe talk about it, and then it just kind of passed us by. But I feel like now is the perfect time. So he was in this article
27:49 Ashley Hesseltine? for Vogue, and he said that he and a friend watched a video of a person bragging about not having kids and how much time it afforded them to do other stuff. And he said, like, holy shit, oh, my God, bleak. Which, again, you and I talked about recently with Liz Plank, like, we're not those people that are going to shame people for having kids and be like, oh, my God, my life is so amazing because I don't have kids. But for him to say, like, life without kids is bleak, was his first comment. And then he told the magazine that while he knows some people can't have children, he believed that procreation is the reason we're here. So I thought that the bleak thing was like, an icky thing to say out loud. I'm not offended by it, though, because I think that child free people can look at the lives of people with kids and also think that's bleak. And we're like,
28:32 Ashley Hesseltine? entitled to our own opinions about that stuff. I wouldn't say it out loud. But I think the mindset of procreation being the reason we're here is bleak. I hate that. I think that, first of all, it does suggest that there's something evolutionary wrong with people who can't have kids, even though he did address that. It's still just like, why I say it. Or something innately wrong with people who don't want to. And it's like, there's so much more to life. Like, we all have our place in society. We're here to, like, build communities and places to live and work and all the things that people do in this world, doctors and scientists and architects and builders and entertainers. Like, we all, it's not all just about having kids. Like, like, everyone has a role they play in this life that has nothing to do with just procreation.
29:15 Ashley Hesseltine? That we all contribute to the greater good. I don't know. Now I'm going off on a soapbox, but I just, I hate that sentiment. And we addressed it a couple of weeks ago again with Liz Plank, too. This is not like people's sole purpose on this planet.
29:28 Rayna Greenberg? I think that he managed to offend way more people with that sentiment. Like you said, people that can't have kids, people that have chosen not to have kids. I, on both sides of the coin, of course, you can look and say like, ooh, that looks bleak. But this is like a really personal choice. And some people don't even have the choice whether to have kids or not. And that to me is much more, far more offensive and upsetting. Also, like, the reason we're on this planet sounds vaguely religious. I think it's a much more upsetting statement than insulting. I'm, listen, I, op, people in the opera, listen, I respect you too, but like, people who have chosen to not have kids, my life's not bleak. And I just, I think it's more common, I think it's more commonly accepted to attack women specifically who have chosen to not have children. And maybe
30:13 Rayna Greenberg? it's easier to stick up for opera singers.
30:16 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, I just, I've been kind of, you know, not loving him as of late.
30:21 Rayna Greenberg? I think it's a good reminder that you don't know anything about these people, your heroes. I mean, it's great to respect people's art, but like, they're still just people. We don't know anything about them. And maybe be saying stuff just like the rest of us.
30:34 Ashley Hesseltine? That, that is, that's always the takeaway, is we don't need to idolize these people and have them on a pedestal.
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34:25 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, so next up, you know, Ashley and I are huge fans of the show Love is Blind. They just had their 10th season and we love the show. And every season, they really deep dive on a lot of topics. You watch people talk about whether or not they want kids. It's really divisive, religion, how they want to live their lives, money. And everybody is really forced to talk about all these different things. Sex, how they, where they want to live. And one thing.
34:48 Ashley Hesseltine? I'm just thinking about that, that one couple that was like, dirty talking last year through the wall.
34:56 Rayna Greenberg? That would be me.
34:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going.
34:58 Rayna Greenberg? That would be me. They would be like, she will not talk about any deep topics. She never cries and she's, she's having phone sex across the wall.
35:05 Ashley Hesseltine? She never cries. Okay.
35:07 Rayna Greenberg? But one thing you and I have kind of noticed in the past is that politics has not been at the forefront. And every once in a while, I'll see it be sort of vaguely referenced, like in Minneapolis, the season with Sarah and Ben, she keeps saying, we don't necessarily align completely on our beliefs. And, um, once in a while, you'll see people talk about, um, how would you feel if you had a child that was gay?
35:30 Ashley Hesseltine? And abortion. Remember the abort, whole abortion storyline with that guy that had the bird.
35:36 Rayna Greenberg? Bart, yes.
35:37 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, Bartiste. Bartiste was the OG abortion storyline. But no, I'm thinking of the woman. She was in the military and the guy that had the, the two braids. And it's that was the big story.
35:48 Rayna Greenberg? What is his name?
35:49 Ashley Hesseltine? I wish my special talent was to remember all these people's names, but you guys know what we're talking about. Just remember like the hair, it looked like a tampon string.
35:57 Rayna Greenberg? The hair.
35:58 Ashley Hesseltine? So, yeah, it comes up.
35:59 Rayna Greenberg? It teased a little bit. But, you know, especially with our audience, when we say like, what is, what are some of the issues that you're coming up with, with your partner? One of the number one things, if not the number one thing in dating is where somebody stands politically. Whether somebody takes a stance whether they're a Democrat, Republican, MAGA, how they look at the world, how they look at your rights as a woman. And this is so divisive. It's the most, number one divisive thing in dating today. And you don't really see it covered on this show, except for this season. They featured a couple, so Alex and Ashley, and you see Alex go out to eat with her parents. And he says, who'd you vote for? And he says, I didn't vote, but I would have voted for Trump. And her dad says, great, you know, we love that. And clearly they are MAGA.
36:42 Ashley Hesseltine? So was that the first time you heard Trump on this show, right? Like it was a jump scare to me because I just thought as a whole, Love is Blind was not going that specific, saying names of politicians. You know what I mean? I just was like surprised to, to hear it like that because we haven't seen this, to your point.
37:01 Rayna Greenberg? We haven't seen it and I've not heard anybody say Voldemort on that show at all. And it didn't really occur to me until this moment that like, we just haven't seen anybody talk about it. And how could that be possible? This is the number one question for everybody today in dating is who did you vote for? How do you look at my rights?
37:19 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, it's like, this is my deal breaker. You know, like they're going in and they're saying like, these are the things that are important to me. Like it's even less of who'd you vote for? Like no one would have asked that 10, 15 years ago. It's just like, I need to know if we can even move forward or not for obvious reasons.
37:38 Rayna Greenberg? And it's a huge deal breaker for most people. And I would think, especially Love is Blind, where you're tasked with saying, tell me right now how you feel about having kids, tell me right now how you feel about money, tell me right now how you feel about politics would come up, and we don't see it. So, since then, there's been a couple of interviews where people have blatantly said, I did talk about this with my dates, and it was cut from the show completely.
37:57 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, so Kia and Jessica from Love is Blind, Ohio, they said they asked their male contestants who they voted for, like, straight up. Like, as in, this is a deal breaker for me. And according to them, none of this was shown. Kia said her dates dwindled because she was upfront with the deal breaker being Donald Trump. And she said, not everything makes the cut, but something I stood really firmly on was my political beliefs. And I had a ton of conversations about that in the pods with men who had opposing beliefs. And she goes on to say why, obviously, we relate completely. And none of that was shown, which it sounds like that was a pretty big storyline
38:35 Ashley Hesseltine? of hers specifically. So it's a real choice not to show it, but then to show Alex talking about Trump with Ashley's dad. And it's so interesting to me, you know, initially, I was like, maybe they just don't want to get political, which is not a choice I agree with also. But
38:55 Ashley Hesseltine? it's wild to edit all this out because it is such an important conversation in today's dating landscape. Like, people are having these conversations in their real lives, and they would want to see this on TV. So what is the reason here? And, you know, people have really taken it and been like, the show is MAGA, and that's the reason and all of this. And if you really break it down, and what they show, what they don't show, that really proves it. But I don't know, then there's a whole side of it that's like, are more guys that are MAGA the ones going on this show because they can't get dates in real life? I mean, that's another thing people are saying. But I wouldn't say that about the women. And I don't want to insult the women that way, too. So there's a lot of different takes on it. But
39:36 Ashley Hesseltine? regardless, it's an interesting choice. Because why? Because these are the conversations I want to see. The second we get an ounce of talking about rights, or abortion, or voting, or anything like that, I'm hanging on every word. And clearly, this is something I'm really interested in, a hot take. I'm like, very political. But I think most people would want to see it.
39:56 Rayna Greenberg? I thought it was a choice to not do politics at all, to your point. I thought they were like, you know what, let's focus on romantic factors like children, money, where do you want to live? How do you want to live your life? It wasn't until I heard them actually feature somebody saying, I didn't vote for Trump, but I would have, and somebody else saying, good, you know, we love Donald Trump, that I realized, oh, they are only featuring one side of the coin. And I don't know that I would go as far to say the show is MAGA, but I thought it was a choice to leave politics out because they were like, this is not a factor. But they included one thing. So it's just like an interesting knock that you have other people coming out saying like, I did have these conversations and things like, I don't want children gets so heavily played. Like, I don't really know anything about Emma and her partner. I don't know one thing about Mike, except for that he wants children.
40:40 Rayna Greenberg? Nothing else did I learn about him. Last season, diabetes got featured more heavily than Donald Trump did, and I'm assuming it was a factor.
40:48 Ashley Hesseltine? It's such a factor. Like, they're really making a choice by cutting this out. It is such a factor. In real life, we get emails all the time about this. We can't discuss it enough because of how heightened it is in today's climate. And then people's families, you know, and so it is coming up, but they are dancing around it. And we love the show. We are going to keep watching the show unless they come out and they're like, hey, yeah, we are MAGA, which I don't think is going to happen. But like, why are they dancing around it?
41:21 Rayna Greenberg? It's clearly a choice. So that's just interesting. Some food for thought for y'all.
41:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, maybe they'll take a note. And where is the next season, Boston?
41:31 Rayna Greenberg? I don't know. We've been getting promised Boston for a long time.
41:33 Ashley Hesseltine? Oh, my God, just give us Boston.
41:35 Rayna Greenberg? We want Boston.
41:36 Ashley Hesseltine? All these short games.
41:37 Rayna Greenberg? Dying for it.
41:39 Ashley Hesseltine? Those women are going to be like, okay, they're trying to figure out how, every single guy in a Boston season, the women are just like trying to, trying to figure out how tall he is, just asking the most random questions.
41:50 Rayna Greenberg? Every guy's under 5'8".
41:52 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah.
41:53 Rayna Greenberg? Okay, well, speaking of TV and things that everybody is obsessed with, Love Story. So we talked about this a little bit last week. They are doing one episode per week on Hulu of the JFK Junior and Carolyn Bissett Show, Love Story. So this really has kept this in the news. And one thing that people have really said about this show is that Daryl Hannah's portrayal, she was with JFK Junior prior to Carolyn Bissett, that they really did her dirty. And they portrayed her as this sort of out of touch, shows up at places she's not invited to, isn't really wanted by him. Is in one particular scene, she's using a family heirloom of the Kennedys to blow lines and just a really negative unfair portrayal of this person.
42:38 Rayna Greenberg? And they kind of use it as like a way to pit her against Carolyn Bissett and that he didn't really want to be with her as much as Carolyn. And this is the obstacle to get to Carolyn sort of. But the portrayal is pretty negative and people have overwhelmingly said they've done her so dirty and what was the point of this? And so she penned an op ed in the New York Times talking about her portrayal on Love Story. And I was really impressed by it. You know, you don't see a lot of people just come out with their full chest defending herself, but she said, how can Love Story get away with this essentially? And she said, nothing about this is accurate, nothing about the way that the Kennedys felt about me is accurate, nothing about my relationship with John here is accurate. And this has caused a lot of issues in my personal life, people thinking that this is true.
43:24 Rayna Greenberg? So I love that she came and defended herself. She said, I've generally chosen to not respond to media coverage and, you know, I don't want to engage in these things. But the choice to portray me as this irritating, self-absorbed, whiny and inappropriate person was no accident.
43:38 Ashley Hesseltine? And, you know, Daryl Hannah is not in The Zeitgeist anymore as an actress, but she's this philanthropist. I mean, she writes in here, for decades, my work has focused on environmental advocacy, documentary filmmaking and animal assisted therapy for seniors living with dementia and Alzheimer's. Like she writes, my professional life is built on compassion and responsibility. Like this is a woman who was really contributing to the greater good and like making a difference. In the world and I didn't really realize all of that. I mean, yeah, I thought she came across as like the most obnoxious, hateable character on this show and I didn't know much about her in real life and I'm so glad she spoke about this. Her, the op ed was heartbreaking to read this and it
44:22 Ashley Hesseltine? made me realize like just how crazy this is to do to a living person. I don't know that it's better if they're dead, but a person in the world today, like was it necessary to do this? And I was trying to think of other incidents where this has happened on this level where there's this actress catching a stray in such an intense way. Like, I don't know, I'm, I was trying to think, can you name anything where it's like a dramatization? You know, it's not some documentary about Britney that may be exaggerated in certain ways, but it's like an actress playing this character who's still an actress alive today and they're doing her so dirty. Like I couldn't think of anything to compare to and it feels so wrong.
45:05 Rayna Greenberg? Nothing is dirty. I mean, there's been like OJ Simpson dramatizations.
45:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Right, there's so many.
45:11 Rayna Greenberg? Crime, a lot of crime dramatizations. But, you know, she said, the actions and behaviors attributed me are untrue. These are not creative embellishments of my personality. These are assertions about conduct and they are false. I mean, this is just somebody who had a relationship with a person that she loved many years ago who died and I'm sure that was a really horrifying.
45:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Her dog died. This woman's dog died. How could they?
45:36 Rayna Greenberg? She also, um, she basically said that Harvey Weinstein had come after her during the filming of Kill Bill and she had basically like pushed off his advances and it ruined her career. I mean, this is a woman who's also been through a lot and it is crazy to take a living being and make them only look terrible as a way to prop up another woman. And to me, it didn't make the story richer, to be honest.
45:59 Ashley Hesseltine? It, yeah, they didn't help for me. Right, that's, it was, was this necessary and why? And I don't know, I just like, this is kind of giving me the ick a little bit about the show. I've only really watched the first four, maybe, and I haven't kept up with it. I mean, I know Jack Slothberg has come out and criticized it for how it portrayed his family. And obviously, he's the most authorized to speak about this, but obviously, he's going to be more sensitive. It is his family. So I don't know, the show's kind of giving me the ick now. And I don't know if I'm going to continue it. I didn't think it was that great to begin with. I enjoyed it. You didn't think it was that great to begin with? Like, it's like, it's
46:33 Rayna Greenberg? I told you, stop watching.
46:35 Ashley Hesseltine? Is it mid? It could be mid. So, I don't know.
46:38 Rayna Greenberg? I think that people are
46:40 Ashley Hesseltine? Justice for Dale Hannah.
46:41 Rayna Greenberg? Hundred percent. I think people are obsessed with the Kennedys. I think people are obsessed with history. I think men are really into this show. People really like JFK and that family. I mean, it's just, it's a fascinating family and all the tragedy that they faced. And yes, you have Jack Slothberg, who is now saying like, not one thing in this is true. I think people are just obsessed with this story. People are obsessed with their love story. I mean, you have this couple, he flew a plane and killed them both and killed her sister as well. And it's, it's a horrifying story. And I think people are obsessed with it and you know, they're piecing it out once a week. So this is continuing to be the news cycle and also her fashion, obviously, has been like heavily parodied. And people are trying to emulate her fashion style. But yeah, I mean, it just was crazy and I love to see a woman stand up for themselves and not be railroaded by Hollywood.
47:26 Rayna Greenberg? And maybe there was some of that also with Harvey Weinstein and feeling like, you know, her voice was taken away from her. And she was like, uh-uh, not again, Ryan Murphy.
47:34 Ashley Hesseltine? Right. What did she do to Ryan Murphy? Uh, so there's that and we'll move on, but they also did have a JFK Junior lookalike contest, of course, in New York, in Washington Square Park, I believe, where they all take place. And the guy that won, he was fine. There was a ton of guys out there and they all were very hot. But you know, that was one, I think you should have attended, but
47:53 Rayna Greenberg? So I was going to, and I couldn't figure out what time it was. And I was looking on Secret New York, which is like a thing I follow, and I couldn't figure out what time it was. But people really came out in, on bikes and roller blades. And they dressed up as him and there was Carolyn Bissette there too. And I just, anytime there's just sweet, healthy wholesome joy in the world, makes me happy.
48:12 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, let's move on to our headlines and we will send you guys out into your weekend. So Trump fired Kristi Noem as the Secretary of Homeland Security. I mean, yay, but like Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, one word, Mark Wayne, has replaced her. He's no better. I mean, it's just one of those things of like, don't worry, they'll find someone worse. I mean, Kristi Noem is the devil incarnate, truly. I mean, she killed her 14-month-old dog. Like, she's the devil, truly. I think she's like really evil on the inside. So glad she's gone and she was doing a terrible job. The words don't, that's an understatement. And so many people
48:57 Ashley Hesseltine? have really been harmed and died under this Department of Homeland Security and the actions that they've taken. But anyway, she's out.
49:08 Rayna Greenberg? I have my own witch moment. I have my own witch moment. Like, you get, I texted you a photo. I was sitting, I did local Fox News the other day, and I was sitting in the lobby and she was on TV. And I texted you a photo of her and I was like, I can't fucking look at this woman anymore. She was testifying and she got fired the next day.
49:25 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, in the airports, those videos, like, is this all, have we always had, like, the DHS secretary on, like, airport security videos? Did I just not pay attention before because they weren't a trigger to me? Like, why is she always on, like, the screens in the airport? I fucking can't stand it. Like, already ruining my morning, already ruining my trip. So I hope those can change, but I don't really want to see Mark Wayne. Do we need anybody, like, in this climate, just get him off the screens? Like, we're already stressed enough traveling.
49:54 Rayna Greenberg? Let's put puppies up there, okay?
49:56 Ashley Hesseltine? Puppies, yeah.
49:58 Rayna Greenberg? The government has shut down.
49:59 Ashley Hesseltine? Her cricket, her puppy.
50:00 Rayna Greenberg? Yes, anything cute. Oh, we put her puppy. The government has shut down. The TSA is heavily depleted at the moment. Airport lines are hours and hours. So, I mean, we need some joy at the airports. So Donald Trump can't honestly admit that she is the worst. So he just gave her a new job and it is the Special Envoy for the Shield of Americas, which is word salad that means nothing. In this role, she focuses on dismantling international cartels and enforcing security partnerships, blah de blah de blah de blah. It's just made-up nonsense.
50:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, it's just a made-up job. I mean, this administration is such a fucking joke. Like, I just, the war is a whole nother thing, which is just, you know, we're gonna try to. Keep it light, not talk so much about the war, but they're just, it's a fucking clown show, Operation Epic Fury. Are you fucking kidding me? They just post on the White House Instagram, like a Call of Duty mashup, like war is a fucking game. I can't believe these people. They make me like, quite literally, like so sick. It's so vile. Okay, uh, well, let's move on from that. Our next headline, the Los Angeles Marathon. This ended in the craziest way I have ever seen. So this one runner is running towards the finish line.
51:13 Ashley Hesseltine? He is such a huge lead. No one is even around him. No one's even around him. And then another runner comes up from behind. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere and passes him. And as the original runner is, they're getting near the ribbon, he reaches out to kind of touch it first and he falls because the other guy does go through it first and wins. I've never seen, it was wild to watch. And I'm like, did he hear him coming up at all? And maybe he couldn't pick up his pace at all. I mean, like he was completely spent by that point, but he realizes that at the last minute, like he's on his tail. And it's crazy to see. So that happened. It was also like an 87
51:56 Ashley Hesseltine? degree day. It was really, really hot. And they were saying that the runners could get a finisher medal after 18 miles, which people had a problem with. I mean, like as someone who, when I ran my last half marathon, I think I've done four or three, my fourth half marathon. I had been having some knee issues and it started to rain and I ran home at mile seven. I was right by my house. I had my, I knew we were gonna go by my house in Atlanta and I had my house key on me, obviously. And I was like, I'm done with this. Like my body
52:34 Ashley Hesseltine? is hurting. It's raining and I'm going home. And I wouldn't have expected a medal. I would have been like, I need the medal. Like I, it's just, I get it though, because it's like, they don't want people to push themselves to the limit and end up in the hospital or dying. And people want that medal to show that they did it. I don't know. I wanna, I'm gonna tread lightly, cuz I am just, I'm not a marathon runner. And like, I see both sides of it being like, I don't know, let people have the medal. But also I see it like you didn't earn the medal.
53:04 Rayna Greenberg? I think you didn't earn the medal. I mean, I'm not a, I'm not a marathon runner, but if I ran the 26.2, which is also an arbitrary made up number. Do you know why it's 26.2?
53:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, it's like a Greek thing, Greek mythology.
53:16 Rayna Greenberg? Well, there's, there's been a few different things. Yes, it started with Greek mythology, but then um, in 1908, it was adjusted and standardized. And it is the start of the Windsor Castle and finish in front of the Royal Box at White City. I mean, it's just, it's made up. It's just, it was standardized in 1921 at this point. It is made up, but I don't know. I feel like I would, if I trained to be able to do 26.2, I'd be like, that's who gets the medal. However, 18 is really hard.
53:47 Ashley Hesseltine? Well, you didn't, you didn't do the marathon. Do you even want the medal? Like, I'm like, I didn't earn this. And yes, it's like, it's, was hot and it shouldn't have been that hot. It, that was a fluke that it was going to be 90 degrees when they did it. And it's climate change and it's getting hotter everywhere. And a lot of these races have had to be canceled or started earlier or whatever. Like, it's not physically healthy for you to be like exhausting yourself in that kind of weather. But I don't think I'd want the medal. If I'm speaking for myself, I'd be like, I'm not running for the medal, by the way. Like, I'm not, I'm not like, that's not why I'm running a half marathon or a marathon. It's just, I don't even care about that. It's a nice memento, but it's to do the thing.
54:33 Ashley Hesseltine? Not for the piece of cheap medal.
54:35 Rayna Greenberg? I mean, listen, all together, I don't care. It does, it's all arbitrary to me, but I think that we should get medals for finishing a thing. If we sign up to do a thing and we finish that thing, that's who should get the medal for that thing.
54:45 Ashley Hesseltine? Can I tell you, like, when I, when I quit that marathon, someone texted me, do you want me to try to get you a medal? And I was like, no, I'm okay. Like, I remember a girlfriend who was kind of a shadier friend, like, she knew I didn't finish because I was like, I'm, I'm, I'm heading home. I'll see you at brunch. And she was like, we're trying to get you a medal. And I was like, no, I feel weird about that. Like, I didn't finish the race. I don't need it.
55:12 Rayna Greenberg? What if you saw a medal at somebody's house and you were like, you finished the marathon? They're like, no, I finished 18 miles. I'd be like, what is this medal for?
55:20 Ashley Hesseltine? It's so funny because I don't even, I guess the medals are probably different for halves, but I don't even know where they are. They weren't like, I'm not, they're not hanging up in my trophy room. Like, I don't even know where my medals are.
55:30 Rayna Greenberg? I have a serious question for you.
55:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay.
55:32 Rayna Greenberg? Okay. What if somebody like ran a mile and then they like got in a car and they, I don't know, four hours later got dropped off at the front? How do you, is there cameras everywhere? Like, how would you know that somebody actually finished the race?
55:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Um, there's a race route, though. Like, I don't, I guess you could, I guess you could jump back in. I don't know, just like public humiliation and just being a fucking weirdo. Like, I think it's just like, I guess you could do that, but why would you want to? Like, that's what you, because of the medal? I don't know. So it's just a weird move. I guess people probably do it.
56:08 Rayna Greenberg? Okay.
56:09 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, so we're just gonna end with a headline that I am just so into, which is Dak Prescott and his fiance called off their wedding after their joint bachelor and bachelorette party. So, first of all, fuck Dak Prescott. And remember when he, remember Spitgate from the NFL season opener in 2025? So I'm just not a fan. The Dallas Cowboys quarterback, yes, and.
56:34 Rayna Greenberg? So Dak Prescott and Sarah Jane Ramos, who's, uh, he has two children with as well. They are getting married. They go to this joint bachelorette in the Bahamas. And then everybody leaves, they stay behind. And I guess she found out that he was using fake social media profiles to connect with women, flirt with them, send messages, I guess, meet up with them. I mean, it's pretty shocking. It's not shocking that an athlete cheated on their partner, but they have two children together, they're getting married next month. I mean, you just don't see this. That is crazy.
57:04 Ashley Hesseltine? So they had to send out a wedding cancellation notice to all of the guests. And they're trying to keep this private. And it's like, you can't keep that private. That is going out to however many people, dozens, hundreds even. So, yes, like, at first, people were like, it's the prenup. I think that's just people, fan fiction. And she was like, it's not about the prenup. Also, they have two kids together. She's entitled to plenty of his money regardless and child support. So she was like, it's not about the prenup. And she did cite infidelity. So like Rena said, he was like incognito, using fake social media profiles, which is also just even another layer of just flirting or cheating. Is like using, creating fake profiles. Like you have really put in a lot of work on this.
57:45 Ashley Hesseltine? So this is just, it's a crazy, it's a bummer. They have two kids, like they're already connected for life. So they had even more of an incentive to get married. Like I, when I first saw the headline, I didn't know they had two kids. I don't know enough about Dak Prescott. I really don't care. But it's just like this, that's even crazier went, went down. So.
58:03 Rayna Greenberg? I did not expect this. I didn't expect her to walk away. I mean, to have two kids, like I'm, I'm proud of her. I'm impressed because it would have been easy to say.
58:11 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah. The comments are so funny. I was in the comments last night on what's on Instagram account. He still can't get a ring. Dak through interception, Dak through an interception to his own wedding, made it to the playoffs and lost before the big game cowboy for life. And dudes that have joint bachelor, bachelorette parties don't win Super Bowls.
58:32 Ashley Hesseltine? Would you ever do that joint bachelor, bachelorette party? Like it's just weird. It's just like going on a trip together all, all like, you don't need to do that. That should be each, the bride and groom's like special times with their friends. Like I think it would be fun with the right group, especially if everybody was single, like it would have been weird as hell for me to do all Shoshon's married friends, you know, like it just, it would have been weird. I would have never done that. I don't know. It's a weird move.
58:59 Rayna Greenberg? That's what the wedding is for. The wedding is for everybody to be together. I want to go on a girl's trip with my girlfriends. I don't need to hang out with your man and his friends. Like if I'm spending all this money to go on a trip with my girlfriend to celebrate her wedding. I just want to be with my girlfriends. I don't want to be with your man and his friends. I just want to go on like a girl's trip. And so I guess I would do what I would want, which I don't know that I would have a joint. Listen, you guys do whatever you want. It's just not for me. That's what the wedding is. The wedding is a joint party for everybody.
59:29 Ashley Hesseltine? Totally. I mean, I had three bachelorettes. So, you know, one of them could have been a couple's trip, but that's not what I was trying to do. I was trying to do three girls trips. But it's funny, like, is this a red flag that a wedding's not going to work out? Is this the new, like when you have a joint bachelor, bachelorette party, the wedding is doomed. The marriage is doomed.
59:46 Rayna Greenberg? Is it like, I think he's cheating and so I have, I don't even trust him to. Go on his bachelorette without me. He I'm gonna go with him.
59:53 Ashley Hesseltine? Do you think that was part of it? I mean, clearly, this is not in this is not an isolated incident, I doubt. Like, clearly, for they've been together for years. Like, she didn't just have her first suspicion of him cheating a month before the wedding.
1:00:06 Rayna Greenberg? So I don't think that this is her going on the bachelor party to to keep control of him because he travels all the time. And if you wanted to cheat on her, you would cheat on her.
1:00:14 Ashley Hesseltine? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. But people get a little crazy on their bachelor party.
1:00:17 Rayna Greenberg? Yeah.
1:00:18 Ashley Hesseltine? Okay, so anyway, um, that's over and I don't care. And I hope she finds better. Fuck Dak Prescott. Fuck the Cowboys.
1:00:27 Rayna Greenberg? That's over and so is this episode. I hope you guys enjoy it.
1:00:31 Ashley Hesseltine? Yes, um, that's your snack, you guys. You can find us at girls gotta eat dot com, Girls Gotta Eat Podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess, Raina is Raina dot Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.
1:00:47 Rayna Greenberg? Have a great weekend, guys.
1:00:48 Ashley Hesseltine? Bye.
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