Bonus Episode: The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists

This week in the After Party, Jake hears from you about the Mount Rushmore of Guitarists and opines on a recent performance from David Lee Roth. Next week, we're presenting part 2 of the Prince story, and Jake wants to know: Which artist best represented their times? Tell Jake at 617-906-6638, ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ mailto:[email protected], or on socials @disgracelandpod. For more great Disgraceland episodes, dive into our extensive archive, including such episodes as: Episode 85 - Pantera https://www.disgracelandpod.com/085/pantera Episode 133 - Jimi Hendrix https://www.disgracelandpod.com/133/jimi-hendrix Episode 173 - Public Enemy https://www.disgracelandpod.com/171/public-enemy To hear an extended version of the After Party and unlock access to a monthly exclusive episode and ad free listening, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership.⁠⁠ https://disgracelandpod.com/membership. Visit ⁠⁠www.disgracelandpod.com/merch⁠⁠ https://www.disgracelandpod.com/merch to see the latest Disgraceland merch! Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠⁠ https://mailchi.mp/doubleelvis/disgraceland-email-newsletter Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/disgracelandpod/ ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@disgracelandpod ⁠⁠X⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/disgracelandpod (formerly Twitter) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 1:44Jake Brennan?

  Hey, Discos. Need a little more DisgraceLand in your life? Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to DisgraceLand: The Afterparty.

• 2:11Jake Brennan?

  Welcome to the Disgrace Land bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the after-party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgrace Land to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about Van Halen, part two. We are previewing our coming part two episode on Prince. We're talking Rat Fink Blues in the Hollywood Land Minute, and we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie Alright Discos. Let's get into it.

• 2:55Jake Brennan?

  Alright, so back on March 26, 2024, we released our first episode on Van Halen. Eddie had been dead for a while at that point. He passed back in October 2020. There is, of course, no continuation of Van Halen. There were rumors that somehow the band was going to continue with Eddie's son Wolfgang, and Dave was going to be back in the front man slot, or that Sammy was coming back, or that Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme was stepping in to replace Eddie, and that that meant that Gary was going to join. I don't, I don't know. Here's what I do know. There's no replacing Eddie Van Halen. There was no one like him before he took the stage, and there will never be another like him now

• 3:37Jake Brennan?

  that he's gone. So we released our two-part episode on Van Halen this week, on Tuesday. But this past weekend, something remarkable happened. Eddie Van Halen's former foil and bandmate and sometime enemy, David Lee Roth, took the stage, not with Van Halen, and not to perform hits from his solo career, but with an entirely different group of musicians to perform a set of only Van Halen songs, bangers. And in typical David Lee Roth fashion, it rocked. Surprisingly, I guess, I mean, I said it's typical, but I shouldn't have said that because there's been some really uneven David Lee Roth stuff over the past few years.

• 4:18Jake Brennan?

  Now, the band that he was fronting, it of course, didn't have the Van Halen magic, but the songs that were performed in The Cradle Will Rock, Jamie's Crying, Running With The Devil, Atomic Punk, Drop Dead Legs, Ain't Talkin' About Love, Hot For Teacher, and of course, Jump, they were so great. I mean, I watched a bunch of this. It was awesome. Okay? These songs are incredible songs. They can survive without the magic, I think is what I'm saying. The magic is of course, gone with no Eddie, with no Van Halen, and it's been gone since the mid 80s. Those Van Halen reunions were abominations. And yet again, this was not Van Halen, but it was a group of more than competent musicians giving David Lee Roth just enough

• 5:02Jake Brennan?

  of what he needed to go out there and entertain the hell out of a pavilion full of people in Maryland or Delaware, or wherever the hell they were. And after seeing Dave do this on these videos over the internet all weekend, I gotta admit, I kinda wished that I was one of those people in the crowd. Unlike the Van Halen reunion shows that I've seen, in these videos, David Lee Roth looks stoked. He looks happy to be there. He doesn't look like he's putting it on. He doesn't look like he's faking it, you know? And of course, he's super old. It doesn't matter. His natural and abundant charisma, it's contagious. And yeah, it's super schlocky and probably has more to do with Las Vegas than it does with Van Halen, but that doesn't mean it isn't entertaining.

• 5:45Jake Brennan?

  And oh, by the way, David Lee Roth always seemed like a dude who was gonna end up in Las Vegas anyway. He always had that old school, Rat Pack entertainer vibe. It was, it was hard to see underneath all that hair and it, you know, got obscured, I guess, by the packs and the splits, but David Lee Roth can put on a classic show, and that was fully on display the other night. And I hope that he keeps on doing it. You know, I'm using this opportunity this week because of our Van Halen Part Two episode to just say that I hope that this continues. And I have no illusions that it's gonna be Van Halen, or it's gonna be as good as Van Halen, or it's gonna be as magical as Van Halen. It's not gonna be any of those things, but that doesn't mean it can't be fucking cool. That doesn't mean it can't be fun. And I honestly hope that I'm more interested in this happening,

• 6:29Jake Brennan?

  David Lee Roth playing Van Halen songs without Van Halen than I am with David Lee Roth reuniting with Alex Van Halen and Michael Anthony and without Eddie. Because of course, if you'll excuse me, that would be a disgrace. It just would not be cool. No matter who they get to replace it. Again, you can't replace Eddie Van Halen, okay? Just Dave, go out there, be our authentic schlocky self, entertain the hell out of us with those incredible songs. Make us all feel like we're in an eighties teen movie ripping the strip in a convertible, got a heater in the ashtray, a road soda between our legs, a babe riding shotgun, something like that, you know? I can get with that. You know, I was gonna talk about Sammy Hagar in this episode because that's what our full episode deals with this week.

• 7:10Jake Brennan?

  It deals with the Sammy era, I guess you could call it more than it does the Dave era. And I was gonna talk about my newfound appreciation for Sammy, Sammy Hagar, my, my late onset Sammy Hagar appreciation. Speaking of old dudes, I saw Sammy Hagar on a video this morning with Alice Cooper ripping it up over the weekend and did not suck. It's hysterical. And in some weird way, Sammy Hagar has got me interested in Jimmy Buffett. I know, I know, hold your fire. I think I'm gonna do a Jimmy Buffett episode at some point. But anyhow, I got distracted by this David Lee Roth news, okay? In this two-part episode on Van Halen, part two, I should say. It's been well received so far. I got a lot of great comments on the, on the Spotify app, got a lot of great DMs, emails.

• 7:55Jake Brennan?

  Thank you, guys, who have checked it out. For those of you who have not already, go ahead, it's there for you, it's waiting for you. In our rewind episode that's coming up right after this, we have our episode on another legend, a hip hop legend, Slick Rick. What's Rick doing these days? I don't know, maybe we can, uh, maybe we can get Rick to head out to Vegas with David Lee Roth, put together a little, a little legend show for us. I'd go see a show with Slick Rick and David Lee Roth. All right, next week, next week, uh, what do we get next week? Next week, we have another two-part or another two-part episode or a part two episode coming that is new. It's the follow-up to our part one episode on Prince, all right? There was way too much Prince to cover in one episode, so we get the whole story for you here, coming next week. And when you're listening to Prince, okay?

• 8:38Jake Brennan?

  I think last time we talked about Prince, we got into this conversation about who the greatest, this dumb fucking question, but it's a good one. Just greatest musician of all time. I think that's what we were talking about. Or greatest pop star of all time, or musician technically gifted pop star. So I forget how we qualified it. Prince obviously came up. Stevie Stevie Wonder came up. We've talked about before, you know, speaking of Van Halen, we've talked about, you know, is Prince one of the greatest guitar players of all time? We're going to get into that later here. That greatest guitar player conversation. We'll get into that later in the episode with your, your DMs and your texts and your voicemails. But this time for this part two Prince episode, when you're listening to it, I want you guys to be thinking about

• 9:19Jake Brennan?

  which artists best nailed their moment. Okay. Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? All right. You know what I'm talking about here. Was it Stevie Wonder with Living for the City? Marvin Gaye with What's Going On? Public Enemy with Bring the Noise or Fight the Power? Hell, everything Public Enemy did. How about, how about Nirvana? I mean Nirvana, Kurt Cobain nailed the time. I'd throw the strokes into this conversation. So many artists hold a mirror up to the era that they're creating in. And I want to know from you guys, who did it best? Give me a call at 617-906-6638. Which artist best represented their times? Send me a text, send me a voicemail, 617-906-6638. You may hear your answer on next week's after party.

• 10:04Jake Brennan?

  All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be hanging on the telephone with you guys and your voicemails, texts and DMs right after this.

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• 11:56Jake Brennan?

  All right, Apple Podcast listeners, we are back. Make sure that you have your auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any episodes of Disgraceland. Guys, I gotta, I gotta be real with you here. I'm back at the desk, talking to you guys. I've been pumped about this. I record these on Wednesdays, they come out on Thursdays. I've been pumped about this for the last few days because even though we had after-parties last week and the week before, I had to record those episodes way early because last week I was traveling and the week before that, Matt, who produces our stuff for us, he was away, he was off. And when I record these things in advance, I just don't feel like I'm connecting enough with you guys. I don't know, there's something about the immediacy of recording them on one day, they come out the next day.

• 12:41Jake Brennan?

  You guys are up in it with me on the socials, on Patreon. We got this conversation, we're locked in. I'm pumped for that to start anew this week because the last few weeks have been crazy. And there's a lot to talk about, but I'm trying to keep these episodes tight, trying to keep them tight for you guys, trying to keep them tight for me. But I gotta just mention, this Diddy trial, it kicked off. All right? I'm gonna do this quick, because there's really not much to talk about. But I'm gonna give you little updates here. Here's my plan. There will be another Diddy episode at some point. I'm not doing that until the trial's done, until we know what the hell actually happened. Okay, I'm not gonna chase this in real time. That's not what we do here. Other people do it. You may have heard some of these podcasts that I've been talking about in our feed.

• 13:26Jake Brennan?

  I'm gonna continue doing that, gonna continue bringing you sort of news Diddy content that you guys might be interested in. And I'll talk about things briefly here as well. All that's gone on right now, if you're interested, is they're selecting the jury. That's it. It's boring. You're not missing much. There was some reference to some celebrities while they're in jury selection. See if there was any bias there. They talked about Kid Cudi. They talked about Michael P. Jordan, Michael B. Jordan, Al B. Sure, not Al B. Sure. You know, you know, not, not the basketball player, Michael Jordan, the actor, Michael Jordan.

• 14:02Jake Brennan?

  And strangely enough, they asked if the jury was biased against Mike Myers.

• 14:08Jake Brennan?

  Not the Halloween guy, of course, the Canadian actor from SNL, which I don't understand what that's all about, probably nothing. None of this means that any of these guys are guilty in any way. This means that their names may come up in this trial. All right? We get any news, I'll bring it to you guys. Right now, there's no news. But no, in the future, there will be an epic Sean Combs Diddy episode of Disgrace Land that nails the rest of this story. All right, 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or a text, that's how you do it, 617-906-6638. All right, let's hear from the 573 coming at us with their answer on who deserves to be on the Mount Rushmore of guitar players.

• 14:53Jake Brennan?

  Obviously, in reference to our Van Halen episode this week. Here we go, from the 573.

• 14:57Speaker 00

  Hey, what's going on, Disgrace Land people? And Jake and the whole crew, keep up the excellent work. For your Mount Rushmore, let's go ahead with this top four. Are there four or five presidents on that national date? Okay, she says four. Let's go with Prince, Eddie Van Halen, Dimebag Darryl. No, wait, do that again. Prince, Dimebag Darryl, Eddie Van Halen, and then Randy Rhoads. All right. Love everybody. Do it up.

• 15:23Jake Brennan?

  573, I love this list. I love it. Even though there's no Jimi Hendrix, I feel like my list is too obvious. It's Eddie, it's Jimmy, it's Stevie Ray Vaughan, and it's probably Jimmy Page. But I love the inclusion of Prince here. I love the inclusion of Randy Rhoads. Randy Rhoads doesn't get enough sway. I don't think, I don't think he does. Anyways, 573, thanks to you and thanks to whoever you had in the background there, uh, who you went to for your million dollar question. What does that show? I don't know. Whatever. Here we go. All right. Let's hear from the 724.

• 15:56Speaker 10

  Hey Jake, this is Clint. I'm currently in the 724 Western Pennsylvania. I gotta go with Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, and Roy Clark.

• 16:11Speaker 10

  He's kind of an odd addition, but if you go back through guitar players, a lot of them reference him and that son of a gun sure could pick a guitar. Uh, that's my list, brother. Thank you very much for what you do. Have a good weekend.

• 16:24Jake Brennan?

  724, thanks for the call. Roy Clark, I gotta admit, man, I'm not up on my Roy Clark, but now you have given me the impetus, the inciting incident to send me on my quest, my hero's journey to discover Roy Clark. Appreciate you. Thank you, 724. Let's do one more of these. This one from the 904.

• 16:44Speaker 11

  What's up Jake? Very from the 904, my Mount Rushmore, Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, and drumroll please, Angus Young. Let me explain Angus. It's the image and the outfit and he just still at his advanced age, he still brings it and he was involved in the greatest selling rock and roll, or one of the greatest selling albums of all time, Back in Black. So the three.

• 17:14Speaker 11

  Pretty, uh, pretty much down the middle, but I think my Angus Young is a wild card. Might be a little controversy behind that, but all of those things that Angus stands for. And what other band, you know, usually it's the lead singer is kind of the face of the band. Angus Young is the face of ACDC. And, uh, so for that I include him on my Mount Rushmore.

• 17:34Jake Brennan?

  Yo 904, love this one. Angus Young was my favorite guitar player growing up. He was my guy. I rode hard for him. I got in many of, many, many a fights, fisticuffs even in the park with my friends arguing over the greatest guitar player. Hugo, if you're out there, I know you know what I'm talking about. And yes, I still think Angus Young is better than Jimmy Page. Uh, but you know, Angus gets, you, you, you kind of get to this a little bit. Angus gets, I don't want to say maligned, but left off these lists because he was so, such a simple guitar player. And I think that was part of his magic. The one thing however, that I did not really embrace or think about when I was a kid and just loving ACDC, even the Bon Scott era stuff, when I got into that was just how important,

• 18:15Jake Brennan?

  of course Angus's brother Malcolm was, not only to the band, but to Angus's guitar playing. I mean, Malcolm did things that allowed Angus to do what he did. And that's a very oversimplified version of what, what was going on there. But it's almost, I guess what I'm getting at is like, if you're going to put Angus up there, you need to put Malcolm looking over his shoulder, perhaps. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. 304 writes in, listening to part two of Van Halen. I love when you get excited about a band. I'm sure you're interested in all of them, but when you really are into a band, it comes through. Part one was like a prayer to your God. Nice work. Well, I mean, you know, I don't think Eddie Van Halen was a god.

• 19:00Jake Brennan?

  I love Eddie Van Halen. I truly do. Loved him. A guitar god, perhaps. 612 writes in, hey Jake, great episode of Van Halen part two. Eddie is the king in my opinion, although I have to disagree with Hagar being more successful and bigger than Roth Van Halen. Four number one albums are great, but Roth Van Halen sold 57 million. Hagar Van Halen with 27 million. Roth Van Halen had more competition with Michael Jackson's Thriller and Def Leppard's Pyromania. I like Van Hagar, but I love Van Halen. Thanks Nathan in Minneapolis. Great point Nathan. I never consider the competition when I'm, when I'm. Considering album sales. Appreciate that. Tony with an I writes saying, hey Jake,

• 19:42Jake Brennan?

  regarding your, what are you into, et cetera, ask, well, I'm 53, I'm a female, I'm married since 1999, decided on that date after we saw Prince live. I turned my husband on to your show. He's a big fan. I'm gonna wee this, okay, just because we are both very into a wide variety of music and are proud that our 22-year-old daughter is as well. I lean alt-grunge classic rock. He likes the harder stuff. I don't like all the screaming, corn, rage, et cetera. I'm more 21 Pilots, Panic at the Disco, Harry Styles. We love live music. We both like the boom and our car stereos is important a feature as the brakes.

• 20:19Jake Brennan?

  He has a custom mini truck that he takes to shows. I like to hike more nature walk than mountain climbing. We both love to just hang out and binge our favorite shows and of course, discuss Disgraceland episodes. Been listening since 2018, maybe 19, who can remember. I look forward to listening for years to come. Rock-a-roller from Tony in Sacramento. Tony, say hi to your man for us. Thank you so much for getting in touch, telling us about yourself. Appreciate that. Sounds like you guys have a great relationship. Karen from the 646 writes in, she's a female photographer living in Brooklyn with an 11 year old son, originally from the Bay Area where she was raised on raves, skateboarding, gays and good times. My favorite things to do are work, dance, travel, check out art

• 21:02Jake Brennan?

  in museums, drink wine, read, cook and party with my friends. And the biggest category of music I've been into throughout my life is alternative, followed closely by techno, house, old school, thank you very much, hip hop, trip hop, 70s funk and soul and classical. You guys have great taste, as exemplified by Karen here. Karen goes on to say that some of her favorite movies are Blade Runner, Alien, Heathers, Party Girl, Party Girl's great, Parker Posey, good choice, good choice Karen. She lists a bunch of other ones here. Favorite books and authors, The Bell Jar, The History of Junk, Annihilation, Sherlock Holmes, Margaret Atwood, Raymond Chandler, awesome, William Gibson. Never read any Gibson. I say Gibson like I know who the hell she's talking about. I don't even know who William

• 21:44Jake Brennan?

  Gibson is, but I never read him. So much more, but that's quite enough. Question for you, what does Whole Lot of Rosie mean? Well, thanks for asking Karen. Whole Lot of Rosie is in reference to One of my favorite songs of all time by AC/DC. I don't know, it's a whole lot of rosy. I just felt like saying it one day and it's stuck. So there it is. You know, Bon Scott's taste, as demonstrated in that song, partially aligned with my taste. So, you know, it makes sense. 617-906-6638. You guys want to get at me with next week's question of the week? We're going to be talking about which artists best represented their time in their music? Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? Was it somebody else? Get at us and let us know. And look, I'm looking to get to know all you guys. Okay, not just Karen, not just Tony. Hit me up, let me know what you're into.

• 22:30Jake Brennan?

  I want to know what books you're reading especially. That's something that I, you know, Karen mentioned that. I've been on a reading kick, a fiction kick lately and

• 22:39Jake Brennan?

  my tastes are very much, they're in the thriller, crime thriller. I guess is how you would, how you would describe my tastes. James Elroy, Richard Price. I'm reading a Richard Price book right now called Lazarus Man. It's really good. Last year I talked to you guys about this. I got on this mystery kick, kind of a whodunit kick. And I was looking at the charts. A friend of mine just released her book this week and it's, it's going gangbusters. And it brought me to look at the charts and see how it was doing. And I realized that the only books that really sell these days are

• 23:19Jake Brennan?

  sort of in the murder mystery vein, you know? And the majority of people who read those books are women. It's just a fact. If you look it up, it's just a fact. Demographically, more women read those books than men. So I started asking myself, well, what do men read? And I looked it up and men read mostly history, like nonfiction history. And to the extent that they're reading fiction, if there's any sort of category that correlates with women and their, their obsession with murder mystery novels, it's sort of this action thriller, Jack Reacher type of book. That ain't my thing.

• 24:03Jake Brennan?

  I like, I like this crime thriller thing that I thought was much bigger than it is. Turns out it's not that big at all. Not that big of a genre when it comes to books. So dudes. I want to know what you like to read. Okay. Let me know what types of books you like to read. And ladies, I ask the same of you as well. If beyond the murder mystery, or this murder mystery, and what authors, because I like that stuff and I like reading it as well. I think I'm in the minority of men who read that stuff. I could be wrong. Anyhow, this is just on my mind lately. And, you know, as I get to know you guys, this is one thing I'm curious about. What are you reading? What are you guys into? All right. Let me know. At disgracempod, you want to hit me up there on Instagram, on X, on Facebook, any of those places. Just like Kentucky Colonel hitting

• 24:48Jake Brennan?

  us up on X saying, hey, did not know about Tim Allen's life before comedy. Remarkable that he was able to use his talents to find funny in the middle of all that. Kentucky Colonel is of course talking about our Tim Allen episode of Hollywood Land, which we released this week and that I totally screwed up in regards to the after party. You'll hear about that in a minute. And by a minute, I mean a second right now. So we do these Easter eggs in the Hollywood Land episodes, where I ask you guys a question that is specific to that episode. You go find the question. You let me know about it and then I award you in some way. However, I fucked it up. I'm not even going to get into how I fucked it up. I just fucked it up. It's a, it's a, it's

• 25:31Jake Brennan?

  a ice cream headache of a problem. And it has to do with me recording the episodes too early. I apologize. And so that we have no Hollywood Land Easter egg for you this week. We will be back with it next week. Just know, listen to Hollywood Land. Okay. It's taken off over there in its own feed. We got big plans for this feed going forward. It's not just going to be an archive going forward. But in the meantime, you can catch up on all of these episodes. And if you have not heard any of them and you're craving for more double Elvis storytelling with me on the mic, this is your chance. Got over 40 episodes over there in the Hollywood Land feed. We got the Tim Allen one that was just referenced and we have one coming next week on Will Smith and the slap

• 26:12Jake Brennan?

  heard round the world. It was really hard for me to bite my tongue on this episode. I don't think I really bit it at all, actually.

• 26:22Jake Brennan?

  And it was, uh, well, we originally produced it. I was in partnership with a media company who was at that very moment in a big time partnership with Will Smith. So it was, uh, it was, it was tricky terrain to navigate, but I think we did a good job and I think I expressed how I felt. And I hope you guys dig it. That's coming your way next week in the Hollywood land feed. Listen, you know what else I hope is coming your way soon? A fucking Red Sox win. All right. This is the sports rant. This is me giving you 30 seconds of my thoughts on sports for those of you. A lot of people from Pennsylvania, by the way, and I'm wondering how many Pirates fans are out there. My kid wants a Pirates hat. We've been talking about it. Best hat in the game. Anyhow, even though the Celtics are in the playoffs right now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a beat on that. I'm not gonna talk about the Celtics. I'm gonna talk about the Red Sox because Tristan Cassus went down and there is a big, big, big hole in the lineup. Not that he was

• 27:06Jake Brennan?

  actually hitting. He wasn't, but he was supposed to bring it around. The Red Sox, they got this stud in the minors that could just cut, you know, everyone's saying, bring the dude up. Roman Anthony, what a name too. Roman Anthony. Guy looks like he's about to invade the hinterland. And he can swing and they, they're not bringing him up and they need to bring him up. And the Red Sox need to get off their ass and they need to actually start to think about their audience, their fans. We want to see winning now. Okay. They have the money. They have the talent. They need to stop playing everything for the future. Small ball future. We need to win now. Baseball is highly competitive right now. There are some incredible teams right now.

• 27:49Jake Brennan?

  The Giants, the Mets, the Yankees hitting the tar off the ball. And if we want to compete with those teams, we're gonna put our best out there on the field. Bring it. Bring the kid up. Let's fucking go. All right. That was my sports rant. I'll be back in the flash with your emails in the Hollywood land minute.

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  People would always think I was lactose intolerant, so I just kind of shortened my explanation to I'm deathly allergic in a big way that defined a lot of my childhood.

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  And while there are challenges, there are moments that remind you you're not alone.

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  One of the best guys that I dated, he made a point to memorize all my food allergies.

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• 29:45Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywood Land Minute, brought to you by the Hollywood Land Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywood Land Podcast is? Well, the Hollywood Land Podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now, there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge. Episodes on Robin Williams, Sean Penn, Andy Warhol, David Lynch, John Waters, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monroe, Steve McQueen, Paris Hilton, Jane Fonda, and most recently, the very talented dude from over on the other side of the fence, Tim Allen. Here's a clip.

• 30:15Jake Brennan?

  The car crossed two lanes of traffic before it flipped over. The other car, traveling in the opposite direction, didn't have time to get out of the way. There was no warning, no way out. Brakes squealed, tires gnawed the pavement. The shriek of metal on metal was ear splitting and soul rallying.

• 30:32Jake Brennan?

  Timothy Allen Dick didn't go with his parents and a few of his siblings to the University of Colorado football game that day. So he wasn't in the car with them when a drunk driver's car literally flopped on top of their car. His mother and siblings survived. His father, however, wasn't so lucky. He was killed in the crash. It was November 23rd, 1964. The Dick family of eight had suddenly become a family of seven. Tim was 11 years old. He was angry. He was angry that his father had been taken away from him. He was angry that a drunk man could crash into a sober man and that the drunk man wasn't the one to die. Life was fucking unfair like that. So what do you do when life is patently unfair?

• 31:16Jake Brennan?

  When your anger about one thing metastasizes into anger about everything? You game life. You don't listen to anyone else, especially adults. But you don't let the adults know you're not listening. You smile. You say, please, you say, thank you. You sit politely at the dinner table with perfect posture, with your napkin folded neatly in your lap. You demonstrate manners that would make Emily fucking post-proud. And what the manners are just for show. Because when the adults turn their backs, you take them for all they're worth. You nick hooch from the liquor cabinet. You grab the keys off the kitchen counter and take the station wagon for the ride of your life. You give off the illusion that you were paying attention, following rules, listening and being respectful. But in reality, you aren't doing anything of the sort.

• 32:01Jake Brennan?

  Because there's pain and anger gnawing away at your insides. And this is how you deal with it.

• 32:10Jake Brennan?

  All right, guys. Make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywood Land Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next week, like I mentioned earlier, we have our episode coming on Will Smith, and you are not going to want to miss that. All right, guys, I want to do a couple of your emails. You want to hit me up on email about anything? [email protected]. This one comes from Paul. Paul's subject is the Cars and Little Richard. Hey Jake, just wanted to write and tell you how much I love your show. I stumbled on it at work and now I'm hooked on it like Tyrone Biggums is hooked on crack. I don't know who Tyrone Biggums is. I'm not going to look it up. Tyrone, if you're listening, I apologize. I also wanted to inquire why a Worcester guy being so close to Boston hasn't done an episode about the greatest band that ever came out of Bean Town, The Cars.

• 32:53Jake Brennan?

  Aerosmith, meh, Journey, question mark, maybe. But The Cars has such an awesome history that I think that it would make for some interesting material. Secondly, I'm curious as to why the Little Richard episode was so heavily censored slash redacted. You usually let it all fly on your other episodes, so I hold back on that particular one. So thanks for putting on such a great show and keep up the great work. Respectfully, Paul C. Paul, appreciate the email. Paul, I am not from Worcester.

• 33:19Jake Brennan?

  I'm from Clinton. There's a big difference. Okay. Big, big, big, big, big. No disrespect to Worcester, but I gotta give it up to my Clinton folks. All right. Um, I got the cars coming. Okay. Get another Boston band coming before that, though. Sort of. The Pixies. Sort of from Boston. We'll do a cars episode. I don't know the right angle yet. You mentioned Journey. I think you meant to say Boston. I want to do a Boston episode. There's some really bad stuff there. I don't know how to handle it, to be perfectly honest. Now, on your question of Little Richard and the censoring, the bleeping, that story was so depraved, that particular part of the story was so disgusting,

• 33:59Jake Brennan?

  that when I actually voiced what happened, um, I just, I couldn't, I couldn't, it just sounded, it sounded too gross coming back at me in the speakers. So we bleeped it. And, um, yeah, that's, that's really the only answer. No one made me do it. I did it on my own. It was an editorial decision, creative decision, and that's, that's why we did it. So there you go. Appreciate you, Paul. Thanks for listening. Thanks for writing. All right, guys, you want to help out the show? You can do so by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Just go to either and look for Disgrace Land, leave a review. Let the folks know what you think. It helps with the discovery of the show. We appreciate it. If I read your review here, hit me up on the old email machine or at Disgrace Land Pod on either of the social platforms. We'll get some merch out to you. This one comes from Anthony Bourdain. No,

• 34:43Jake Brennan?

  this one comes from Tuddy. Tuddy writes in, Anthony Bourdain, award-winning. That's on Apple Podcasts. Well, thank you. Appreciate that, Tuddy. Get a really nice review here from someone named Kid000001 regarding Winona Ryder. Not going to read that, but thank you so much. Jonathan Hollis on Spotify writes, great pair of episodes in reference to our Van Halen episodes. I can tell that you guys really love Van Halen. Might I suggest you guys do an episode on another group I love, Death Grips. They've got insane stories and even more insane conspiracy theories surrounding them. I'm very intrigued. What's up with Death Grips? I know next to nothing. Hit us back, Jonathan. Let me know. Thanks for the reviews, guys. Another way you guys can support the show, as always, is by becoming an exclusive all-access Disgrace Land.

• 35:28Jake Brennan?

  Land member, okay? Your membership is only $5 a month. That'll get you like half a hot dog at a ballpark. And you're going to get substantially more if you become a Disgrace Land All-Access Member, okay? You're going to get more of these bonus episodes. You get a little extended version of the after-party. You're going to get an exclusive episode per month in your feed on other Apple Podcasts or on Patreon. And you're going to get ad-free listening, okay? Huge. All that is huge. And only for $5. Appreciate you guys who are members. Like the conversation we got going on in Patreon. Excited to be back at it this week. Excited to be talking to you guys in the chat. Digging the extended Rock and Roll Hall of Fame conversation we're carrying on over there.

• 36:12Jake Brennan?

  Lot of folks in the Patreon chat today talking about, I'm looking here, talking about genres of music that they're surprised that they're listening to. Started with Kimberly, talking about how she's surprised that she's into metal. Coco's in there. She's a country fan, much to her surprise. Anyways, we're all in there pretty much every day, talking, talking to each other, talking about music, talking about movies, talking about the things we talk about in Disgrace Land. You want to become a member? It's $5. DisgraceLandPod.com/membership.

• 36:55Jake Brennan?

  All right, we are back. Let's climb into the vault here before we get out of here. See what archive episodes we've got waiting for you, stuff that we discussed or referenced or hinted at in this bonus episode. We didn't talk about Pantera, but we did talk about Eddie Van Halen. And Eddie Van Halen shows up in that Pantera episode, which is one of my favorites. You're going to want to check that out, especially to hear how Eddie was an integral part of the Abbott Brothers and just the sound of Pantera. We mentioned Hendrix, we mentioned Jimmy Page, obviously Hendrix and Led Zeppelin episodes in the Disgrace Land archive. Lot of people ride hard for Clapton. I'm not one of them. We got a Clapton episode, you guys know that. We re-release it every Christmas. And of course, Slick Rick coming in the rewind slot this week had me thinking about our

• 37:38Jake Brennan?

  Public Enemy episode, another great Def Jam artist, also NWA episode, solo Eazy-E episode. We released our Snoop episode a couple of months back, just did the B I G episodes, got a lot of great hip hop in the archive for you guys, if that's your thing. Matt's gonna have the episode information in the show notes, make it easy for you guys to comb through those 230 plus episodes. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast Hollywood Land is alive and kicking over in the Hollywood Land feed, so make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts and get ready for our upcoming Hollywood Land episode on Will Smith, but only after you're caught up on our recent episode on Tim Allen. Number two, right now in your disgracing feed, our part two episode on Van Halen.

• 38:22Jake Brennan?

  Number three, coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Slick Rick and next week, our part two episode on Prince. So make sure you are subscribed to disgracing. Number four, merch winners, get in touch, you know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do and well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Van Halen, the Billboard charts from October 6, 2020, the day Eddie Van Halen died. Number one, franchise, Travis Scott featuring Young Thug and MIA. Peak position, one, weeks on chart, one. Number two, Dynamite, BTS, last week, one. Peak position, one, weeks

• 39:03Jake Brennan?

  on chart, six. Number three, WAP, Cardi B featuring Megan Thee Stallion, last week, two. Peak position, one, weeks on chart, eight. Number four, Laugh Now, Cry Later, Drake featuring Wilder, last week, four. Peak position, two, weeks on chart, seven. Number five, Mood, 24 karat gold featuring Ian Dior, last week, five. Peak position, five, weeks on chart.

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• 41:16Jake Brennan?

  Hey, guys. Time to dust off your detective skills while unwinding in the Caribbean on Virgin Voyages' second true crime voyage. It's back by popular demand. This five-night, adults-only escape sets sail March 20, 2027, to Grand Turk in the Beach Club at Bimini. The difference between this year and last will be that I will be on the cruise this year, along with Zeph, and he and I will be taping a live version of Disgrace Land, along with podcast hosts from Exactly Right's Buried Bones, Podcast of the Year Award winners WiseCrack, and other fan favorites. Get on this cruise with us, guys, and enjoy live podcast recordings, behind-the-scenes storytelling, exclusive meet-and-greets, and immersive true crime programming throughout this one-of-a-kind voyage.

• 42:01Jake Brennan?

  Head over to www.virginvoyages.com/truecrime to secure your spot.