Episode 422: Liron Kayvan: Healthy Travel Hacks + How to Stay Fit on the Go

Traveling for work or pleasure can make it challenging to maintain your health and fitness routine. That's why in this Fitness Friday episode of the Habits and Hustle podcast, I talk with my friend Liron to give all of you the tips you need to stay fit while traveling. We discuss the importance of planning ahead, packing your own healthy snacks, and making a commitment to stick to your fitness goals no matter where your travels take you. We share practical strategies to help you prioritize your well-being on the go. Liron Kayvan founded BFLA in 2019. He's a NASM Certified Group Fitness Instructor, Personal Trainer, and Transformative Life Coach. Liron has competed in Amateur MMA, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Rugby and has been a Fitness Coach for over 10 years. What we discuss: Bring your own healthy snacks and meals in your carry-on instead of relying on airline offerings Stay hydrated by drinking only water during the flight Get up and walk the aisles every hour to avoid being sedentary on long flights Maintain your normal fitness routine as much as possible while traveling Take advantage of hotel gyms to fit in workouts Working out while traveling can actually boost mental performance and productivity Visit grocery stores to stock up on healthy foods vs. always eating at restaurants Track food intake if you have specific weight loss or body composition goals Walk everywhere possible while traveling - to meetings, sightseeing, etc. Make your non-negotiables for diet and exercise while traveling and commit to them Thank you to our sponsor: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com http://therasage.com/ and use code Be Bold for 15% off TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com http://truniagen.com/ and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www http://www/.magicmind.com http://magicmind.com//jen and use code Jen at checkout. Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com http://airdoctorpro.com/ and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Bio.me: Link to daily prebiotic fiber here https://bio.me/?utm_source=Jennifer, code Jennifer20 for 20% off. Momentous: Shop this link https://www.livemomentous.com/?srsltid=AfmBOorDUIZz3psr1Qsq_n1yE8_6JTq_QUFabOO9lH65HDEXCIoJOPLj and use code Jen for 20% off To learn more about Liron Kayvan: Website: https://www.beyondfitnessla.com/ Instagram: @beyondfitnessla https://www.threads.net/@beyondfitnessla Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Hi guys, this is Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.

• 0:09Jen Cohen?

  Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle Podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up.

• 0:26Speaker 00

  Hi guys, this is Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.

• 0:32Jen Cohen?

  All right, guys. Welcome back to Fitness Friday with my friend, Liron. Hello, Liron.

• 0:39Speaker 02

  Hello, Jen.

• 0:39Jen Cohen?

  Thank you for coming.

• 0:40Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 0:41Jen Cohen?

  I have a topic that I want to talk about that I think is really, really important. And we don't really hear it as often as I thought we could, not could, but we should, is this is going to be an episode about fitness and travel and how to stay on point with your health and fitness goals while traveling. Because the truth is, so many people who listen to this podcast, travel a lot. They're entrepreneurs, they're people who just are on the go a lot. And it's really hard to stick to a program when you're constantly flying. And it really kind of gave me this idea was in the last few months, I've been

• 1:25Jen Cohen?

  traveling way more than I have in the past, in the last six months, I should say. And no matter how much I worked out, or you know, ate okay while I wasn't traveling, the travel killed me, right? Like I, like I just gained weight, or I couldn't, it was really, really hard for me. And what I noticed that really worked for me, the first thing that really I noticed is staying away from the food on the airplane. Like that to me is the biggest, biggest issue with staying on track with your fitness is when you eat the food on

• 2:09Jen Cohen?

  the airplane, on the airplane. It is, it's packed with preservatives, sodium, the highest sodium. Like the second I take a bite of that food, I have to open the button on my pants, right? Like, it's so bad for you.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Airplane food is like kind of the exact opposite of my philosophy on nutrition, which is you want to eat as naturally as possible.

• 2:30Jen Cohen?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  You want to eat as if you are in the jungle and or the rainforest or the forest or whatever. But airplane food is literally to a T, like packaged, you know, scientifically like made in a lab. You know, well, that's what they they.

• 2:47Jen Cohen?

  But why is that? Like they say to you and they.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  Because it has to last forever. It's a it's a business. The airplanes are are businesses and they need to make things as cheaply as possible that last as long as possible.

• 2:56Jen Cohen?

  But the funny thing is, like, even in twenty twenty five, right? And they are giving you healthier options on the plane. They're still not healthy options. They're still not healthy options. And they can you can get your little snack packs, which is like the the nuts and the crackers and this and that. But to me, the best the the best strategy is don't even think or look at the car going by. Let it keep on going. Like, don't.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  Just get your.

• 3:22Jen Cohen?

  Eat any snacks on that plane. Yeah. Get the like I pack, like, people laugh at me because when I go on a when I go on a plane, like, there's more food. I bring more food with me than I do clothing or anything else like.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  That's the Jewish mom thing.

• 3:36Jen Cohen?

  That maybe it is, but yeah, probably.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  It's deep in your genes.

• 3:39Jen Cohen?

  Maybe it is, but I will say like this is my strategy and tip number one when you are traveling is never touch the airplane food, never, ever, ever pack everything in your carry on. And that's what I do. I pack fruits and vegetables and snacks and I bring everything from home. And like I said, like, most of my, most of my my luggage or my bags are filled with food versus clothing. Like, I'll be, I'm much happier wearing the same pair of pants every single day and the same.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  But to have fresh food.

• 4:11Jen Cohen?

  Then, yeah, I'd rather have fresh food or quality food. And because the trouble I have is also is that, like, I don't know what happens on a plane, but the second I get on a plane, I'm starving. Starving.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:23Jen Cohen?

  Is that what happens with you too?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

• 4:25Jen Cohen?

  I don't know what and the second and then I feel like I'm like stuck on this.

• 4:29Speaker 02

  You're also a bit bored on a plane.

• 4:31Jen Cohen?

  And that's, I was gonna say, I. Because it's like a boredom factor, even though you can watch a show or whatever else like you have this like knowledge that okay, I'm gonna be on this flight for five hours or four hours and I can't go anywhere.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:42Jen Cohen?

  What is there to eat? Like you wanna like pass the time. So like ways to like eliminate that honestly is like, you know, like you kind of like have like this. This thing in your you reframe it where it's like I'm not I'm not touching anything that comes on that cart. I have all my snacks, so there's no excuse for me not to eat that food.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  I know what you mean. Actually, like I don't ever really crave like beer and potato chips. Like it's not a craving of mine really like beer once in a while. But like whenever I get on a plane and I see someone order beer and potato chips, I'm like, I really want that, you know? And it's something about being on the plane and the boredom factor where I'm like, I need something, you know?

• 5:21Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  I I get that. I get what you're saying.

• 5:22Jen Cohen?

  And like you're also like constrained to your speed and it's like, eh, like to me, like another great strategy is like, don't drink anything besides water or or like, that's what I just I only have water.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:33Jen Cohen?

  Because right away, like the I guess the air pressure can can make you much more, it it changes your body.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  It definitely slows down your digestive system too, like your gut tends to freeze up. I think also traveling at unnatural speed across, you know, you're changing time zones.

• 5:50Jen Cohen?

  Right, right.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Like that is gonna, and it's not just on the plane, but like the actual flight is going to mess up your circadian rhythm for at least a day, depending on how far you go. Like when I go to London, like three days after my my my body, I'm waking up at the wrong time, my digestive system is off, every my energy levels are off because of that jet lag too. So it's like the the sitting down in a plane, eating crap, and then also having jet lag is a combination is a is a big kind of perfect storm to derail your fitness.

• 6:19Jen Cohen?

  Right. So that's why the other thing I think is super important is to keep keep your routine as much as possible.

• 6:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:26Jen Cohen?

  Like have like a like a your regiment or your routine and try to maintain it as best, I'm not saying perfectly. But as much as possible, but also while you're on the plane, make it like you should like set an alarm that every hour that you walk up and down. The aisles because that again, being sedentary for so long is just so bad for you. Right? Like to me.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Stretch, stretching.

• 6:50Jen Cohen?

  Stretching and like if it causes like I I start getting sciatica because I'm sitting too long. Like all of these things, right? Like you have to make a concerted effort to to to do these things. Like I I know that like, okay, I'm traveling. These are my hard no's. These are like things that are non-negotiable. I'm not allowed to eat the food on the plane. I have to walk up and down the aisles every hour on the hour and I'm only allowed to drink water. That will help you fifty percent, literally fifty percent with keeping your your goals for your health and your fitness. By just doing those three things. The other thing is staying on that routine as much as you can.

• 7:29Jen Cohen?

  Whenever I get off of a plane, if I'm going somewhere far, I make myself like move my body for thirty minutes afterwards. I have to like walk around wherever the hotel, go on a treadmill in the gym. Every hotel now or wherever you're going has a gym. Take advantage of it like first thing, I think.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I actually, I love working out on vacation. I absolutely love it like. It's got harder since I had the second kid because it's hard to leave two kids with my wife and then go work out. But I used to like up until this summer, we went to Italy. The first time I didn't work out for two weeks, I think since I started working out. I always, whenever we go on vacation, even long like two week trips, I'll always like sneak off to a hotel or find a new gym in town. Actually, I I love it because I'll go to a new part of town. It'll be very, very different. I get a lot of inspiration, different machines, different gym culture, different like, you know, you can people. I I love working out on vacation.

• 8:25Jen Cohen?

  Oh, yeah. But to me, that's not even an option. Like it's not even an option to me. Like I said, if no matter where I am around the world. I I try to stay on my routine as best as I can. And I work out every day, no matter what, no matter what the jet lag, no matter what the time difference is. I'm talking also about like business people traveling, like when they don't have, they're not with their family, right? It's just, it's really hard. To like stay on point if you're somebody who's like a consultant and you're always on a plane.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Are you talking about like work trips?

• 8:59Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, I'm talking about like work travel. I'm not even talking about family. I'm talking about, by the way, all travel. But a big part of that is like work travel. Like I'm, I'm, I'm traveling a lot for work. I'm going to different places for consulting gigs or speaking gigs. And like if you're always on a plane, that's part of your, as an entrepreneur, that's part of your life. You know, like you have to like integrate these things to make it a non-negotiable.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  I'm guessing you have to plan ahead for these things too.

• 9:27Jen Cohen?

  You have to plan ahead for everything in life.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  Find like, say you do want to find a gym.

• 9:32Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  You have to see, does my hotel have a gym? If not, can I schedule a couple of hours to go and find a gym somewhere? And make it stay on, you know, stay on my routine. The other factor is when you, especially with regard to work. If you know you're going to function better, like your brain and body is going to function better. When you're working out, then it's a performance booster. And so therefore it's actually part of your work.

• 9:56Jen Cohen?

  A hundred percent. I, I also think just because there is such a thing, and I think this is a big one. It's the eighty twenty rule, right? Like eighty percent of what you do is your nutrition and twenty percent is your fitness stuff, right? So you really have to watch what you eat when you're traveling. If you are, if you really want to, you know, maintain or achieve your goals. It's a lot of it is about what you put in your mouth, not what you're doing in the gym. So making better choices. Now, the issue is portions. Again, it's always, a lot of it comes down to portions. For whatever reason, psychologically, it's been shown that when we are traveling, we tend to eat way more than we do when we're back in our own regiment at home, right?

• 10:41Jen Cohen?

  So if you're conscious of that and conscientious of that, make sure that when you are traveling, that your portions are not crazy. Like half the portions at a, like half the, the, the portion at the restaurant you're going to. Or what I do a lot is I go to a grocery store and I buy a bunch of food and I bring it back to my, my hotel. And I, so I'm not. Relying on like restaurant food that also when you, the more you eat at restaurants, the amount of calories that are added just by the sheer cooking way they're cooking the food.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  Oil.

• 11:12Jen Cohen?

  The oils and all the added stuff, like it adds up so fast. I go to like, I go to the grocery store and I buy like sliced turkey. I, I buy myself like my fruits and my vegetables and things that I know what is in it.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  That's a, that's a big thing you just mentioned. And, and I think in general, whether you're on a work trip or a pleasure trip or whatever it is, whenever you're traveling, seeing fitness as part of the travel, as part of the trip, like not divorcing psychologically, your health and fitness from the trip, but making it part of it. Meaning, so like, to be specific, when I went to Italy, right? Everyone says with Italy, oh, you have to have pizza, you have to have pasta, you have the gelato. And it's fantastic. The pizza, pasta and gelato are fantastic. But I don't want to live off that for two weeks. I'm not going to enjoy it. So I go to the grocery store every day in Italy. And that was a really cool experience. First of all, you're getting to know the country better and the people better because you're living like a normal person. That's how normal people eat.

• 12:12Speaker 02

  They don't, Italians don't eat at a restaurant three times a day. They don't. They're just like everyone else. They go to a grocery store. But their grocery stores are a million times better than American ones. Same thing with London. Yeah, fresh fruits, like the deli section is incredible. These amazing cheeses and sun dried tomatoes and olives. So it was an amazing experience for me. And I got to stick to my health. I, I didn't really need, I had a couple of days where I had loads of pizza and pasta and stuff. But in general, that's not my, that's not my thing. And I, I stuck to my thing. I stuck to my stuff and it was super easy, super enjoyable. I did not feel like I was deprived from my travel at all because I, I embedded my fitness and my health into my travel.

• 12:56Jen Cohen?

  Yeah.

• 12:56Speaker 02

  For me, since.

• 12:57Jen Cohen?

  I, I love, see, people who know me, I mean, you don't know me that well, but people who know me well, know that I'm like, I love the grocery store. To me, going to Costco or going to like Whole Foods and like walking the aisles is like my like. My like happy place. To me, I love it. And so I realize that most people don't love it. But I'm telling you, if you really are serious about, you know, you can't have it both. You can't have it both ways. Like, there's always a give and take in the world, right? Like, if you want something, you have to like, take away something else, right? Like, as much as I love to eat, you know, these amazing meals at a restaurant every single meal.

• 13:39Jen Cohen?

  I know what that's, I know what the result's gonna be. So like, I don't do it. I like make sure that I'm very reticent and cognizant of like, making my own food as much as possible. With that being said, like, if someone, again, just like, if you don't, you may not like the grocery store like I do. But if you actually try to incorporate that into your travel, it will save you so many calories of eating every single meal out at a restaurant. Even like, if you're traveling for two days, right? And you're eating out lunch, breakfast and dinner. Even like, even like breakfast is is much more like that. You can make it in your, in your room.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Yes, unnecessary. But even, to go even further and say like, I don't think the trade off is as much as people think. Like, it depends on what you diet. I love my diet. I love eating healthier, which to most people sounds like, yeah, yeah. They kind of roll their eyes and they're like, of course you love eating healthy. You're just like, you're lying to yourself. I'm not. I eat the foods that I enjoy.

• 14:42Jen Cohen?

  Me too.

• 14:43Speaker 02

  And so like, going to a grocery store, I actually find more enticing than going to a restaurant. Because I don't, I don't buy into the whole restaurant thing. I don't think restaurants are as good as people make them out to be. I think they just don't, they're not connected with their food.

• 14:59Jen Cohen?

  Well, I think that, I think just overall, eating at restaurants too much will make you gain weight. There's no way around it.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  I haven't seen anyone eat out more than fifty percent of their meals and be in the shape they want to be. I have never seen it. Maybe you can, I think it's possible to eat out a bit and eat out a good amount and still be fit. But I haven't seen anyone eat out more. Than fifty percent of their meals.

• 15:23Jen Cohen?

  No, if you want to for like, there are like a very, there's a very like small percentage of people who are just like naturally very lean. Okay. God bless you people. But for the majority of people, if they want a certain aesthetic, if they're eating out every single meal, there's not a chance that they're going to be able to maintain their, their, their overall body fat, their aesthetics.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  Having said that, if I think you can do a little bit of research, but again, there's the trade off. You actually have to put a little bit more effort and focus into it, but if you, if you do a little research into where you're eating and what you're eating and what the options are, you're going to be a lot better off.

• 16:05Jen Cohen?

  Listen, you can make better choice. Listen, there's a difference though. I mean, even with the best choices, what will happen, you can make the best restaurant choice on the planet. You can go the most organic, the most, you know, farm to table restaurant on the planet. You will eat a bigger portion, way more at a restaurant than you would at your own home, number one. And there's always hidden ingredients that you may not know about, right? Because to make food taste good, they add extra oil, extra butter, extra something, something that you don't know about, that you're not taking into into account. And if you really have a goal that you're trying to achieve, you have to track

• 16:46Jen Cohen?

  what your food intake is, right? Like the people who get to the result are using trackers, like they're putting, they're using my fitness pal or all these other tracking devices. And they're incorporated until you know exactly what it is. By the way, like I always say to them, oh, I'm just eating a chicken breast and I'm eating this. And when I actually put that stuff into the, my daily food intake into one of these trackers, I'm always really surprised at how many more calories I'm actually intaking than not. Like it's always a five hundred plus more than I really thought.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  So can I tell you something?

• 17:20Jen Cohen?

  Yes.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  I actually don't believe in calorie counting.

• 17:24Jen Cohen?

  I don't believe, listen, that's all, I'm not, but let me say this also, I don't really calorie count because like I'm okay with like, I'm not trying to be on the cover of, you know, name it, Oxygen Magazine or Fitness Magazine. But what I'm saying is for people who are trying to lose fat or lose weight, right? Like who are trying to lose that five pounds, right? You have to track, you have to see what you're having, like, there has to be a calorie deficit.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  I think, I think the biggest, the reason why that works is because most people are just not aware. They don't even know, they have no idea, there's no awareness, they didn't even realize that they ate this thing, they wouldn't remember it. And this has been studied, by the way, like, people are so bad at, at knowing how much and what they're eating.

• 18:10Jen Cohen?

  Well, that's my entire point. I think it doesn't, you could be a fitness enthusiast who exercises and thinks, watches everything you're doing and exercises consistently, eats well and all the things. And then it's those people are like, I don't know why I'm not losing weight. I don't know why I'm not gaining muscle. I don't know why, because they're not tracking it properly. They don't know what their macronutrients are, what they're eating, their, whatever, they're not, they don't know, there's, at some point, this is the truth, right? Like, if, it's much easier to lose 30 pounds than it is to lose five pounds. And if you're trying to lose five pounds, it is imperative that you track to see what you're doing day to day. You need to have

• 18:52Jen Cohen?

  a deficit in your calories if you need, if you want to lose weight. Period, full stop. There's nothing, there's no way around it. Five pounds is so difficult to lose. I mean, the smaller the amount that you're trying to tweak, the harder it is. And that's why you can't just eyeball things and just, you know, rely on your memory. Like, oh, I had a Greek yogurt here, and I had a protein bar here, and I had a piece of chicken. Without doubt, you're forgetting things that you're eating. And I think it's really, it's a really great tool, if you really want to achieve a certain goal. But we can talk about that on another podcast that we're going to be doing. This is about travel. Those are my tips. That I think are really important. Stay away from airplane food.

• 19:37Jen Cohen?

  Make sure you're walking on the plane, you know, every hour on the hour. I'm going to reiterate them. Only drink water. Stick to your routine on the trip as much as possible. Try to stay away from eating every meal at a restaurant. Try and incorporate grocery shopping. Go to a grocery store, buy food for your room, your hotel room, or for wherever you're staying. It will save you so many calories down the road. Is there anything else?

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Think about, think about food quality. Oh, always. The quality of food.

• 20:10Jen Cohen?

  You should always think about the food quality.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  America has one of the low, I mean, I don't know where you're traveling specifically.

• 20:14Jen Cohen?

  I'm talking about anywhere.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  And the whole nother thing, but America is on the, definitely on the lower end of food quality. So there's a lot of countries you can go to where everything's fresh, there's very low additives. And so you can partake of the local cuisine a lot, a lot more guilt free than in the kind of more western world. It really just depends where you're going, but I think by focusing on, on food quality, you know, go to, go to grocery stores, go to farmers markets.

• 20:38Jen Cohen?

  And also walk as much as you can.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  Walk a thousand percent is probably number one.

• 20:43Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, walk, walk to your meetings as much as you can.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Don't get a cab if you can walk.

• 20:47Jen Cohen?

  Yeah, like, that's why I love going to New York.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  New York is the best.

• 20:51Jen Cohen?

  I, I love going to New York.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  New York is the best.

• 20:54Jen Cohen?

  Because I walk everywhere. It's a walking culture.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:58Jen Cohen?

  You know, you think that like this whole idea of like living in LA and that it's like such a like outdoorsy.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  There's nowhere to walk.

• 21:04Jen Cohen?

  Nobody walks anywhere. By the way, I have this rule, I talk about this incessantly, is that if it's two miles or under, I will not get into a car. I absolutely refuse to get into a car. I walk everywhere.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  Great rule.

• 21:19Jen Cohen?

  And so it's a great, it's a non-negotiable.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  That's the, the sunshine, that's the vitamin D. I mean, we've got like ash falling on us now, but generally 99.9% of the time, being outside and breathing the fresh air and seeing the trees and having the sun on your skin, apart from the actual physical walking, is going to do so much, not just for your mental health, but your physical health too. That people really sleep on that stuff.

• 21:40Jen Cohen?

  You've got to create non-negotiables for yourself if you want to. Get to your goal. That's period, full stop. You have to.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:48Jen Cohen?

  You have to put that in there. That's why my two mile, two miles are under rule for myself.

• 21:53Speaker 02

  Do you keep that when you're traveling?

• 21:54Jen Cohen?

  One hundred percent. That's why I love going to New York. So what I was gonna say is it's interesting because LA has this, you know, this preconceived notion that it's the healthiest place to live, but yet nobody walks here.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:05Jen Cohen?

  They will not walk to the grocery store if it's a quarter of a mile away. To me, I'm like, I purposefully live in a place where I can walk to the bank. I can walk to the grocery store. I can walk to the mall. I can walk to all the, I can walk to the gym if I need to. I want to make my life as walkable and as simple and convenient as possible for myself.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  I'm exactly the same. We're literally, we're buying a house right now and, and non-negotiable, and this might sound crazy to some people, is can I walk to my place of residence, my gym, from my house?

• 22:40Jen Cohen?

  That doesn't sound crazy to me at all. I will, I will never, I went to look at a house recently that was beautiful. Okay, but it was up in the hills, not, you couldn't pay me money to live there.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:53Jen Cohen?

  Because I, all I think about is, oh my God, if I need to go get a carton of milk.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:59Jen Cohen?

  Or if I need to go get something.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  Very practical way of thinking.

• 23:02Jen Cohen?

  I'm practical at like, at the core, in my, at the core, core part of me is like, I can't think outside of being practical. I'm a Virgo. That's, I am very practical.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:14Jen Cohen?

  But like, to me, it's like, if I can't walk to, to get a carton of milk, or if I can't walk to the coffee shop, I cannot do it. I will not do it.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  It's not just about fitness, it's like, it's your lifestyle.

• 23:26Jen Cohen?

  Lifestyle, it's a lifestyle. One hundred percent. Okay, that's it for me and you and everybody else. Guys, if you, if there's anything else that we're, we're missing, leave a comment. Did you like this episode? Did you hate this episode? Did we leave anything out about how to incorporate great ways to travel and yet still stay on your fitness path, right?

• 23:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:48Jen Cohen?

  Let, let us know. Thanks as always, you guys for listening. Bye bye.