#2226 - Theo Von

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  These are like conversation condoms, aren't they?

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a little bit. Well, it's like a safe room. Blocks out the world.

• 0:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  Conversation only exists inside your ears. You know? Locks you in. I think it locks you in. That's what I like about it.

• 0:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's almost like a football player kinda putting on their helmet.

• 0:31Joe Rogan?

  Right, ready to go.

• 0:33Speaker 00

  You're like, "We're ready for this," yeah.

• 0:35Joe Rogan?

  Yo, how fun was election night at the mothership?

• 0:38Speaker 00

  It was baffling, man. I mean, here, I'll tell you, it was all... It was crazy.

• 0:44Joe Rogan?

  It was so much fun. We had such a good time. That green room was so positive.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  My favorite part, at one point, they were playing that song, um... "You talk about a revolution." And people were dancing, people were smoking weed. There was a ba... I think there was a baby smoking weed. People, there was, everybody was like, people were like ma... It was crazy, dude.

• 1:04Joe Rogan?

  It felt...

• 1:05Speaker 00

  Adam and Eve were in there. There was just a lot going on.

• 1:09Joe Rogan?

  It felt like America's brighter. That's what it felt like. We were... We were moving towards this insane world where we're being controlled by liars. We're just being gaslit left and right. We saw it all over the media, we saw it all over the news. Things that were right in front of your face, they're trying to deny. There's just so much craziness, and then all of a sudden...

• 1:35Joe Rogan?

  The world spoke. Did you see the map of the actual country? Like, how many places actually voted red?

• 1:43Speaker 00

  Oh, no. I don't know if I saw that or not.

• 1:45Joe Rogan?

  It's just a few cities. Even California was mostly red. That's what's crazy.

• 1:51Speaker 00

  We had, uh... I don't know if I saw that. I'm trying to think of what I saw.

• 1:56Joe Rogan?

  There's a, um... There's a...

• 1:58Speaker 00

  Oh, Tony was nervous, remember?

• 2:04Joe Rogan?

  Tony better be fucking nervous.

• 2:06Speaker 00

  Dude, I kept just going up to him and going, "Feliz Navidad." Just to fucking get his vibes.

• 2:12Joe Rogan?

  Look at that.

• 2:13Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 2:14Joe Rogan?

  This is the one I saw Jamie also send this to you. It's got music to it.

• 2:20Speaker 00

  This was like when I got that hair surgery.

• 2:24Speaker 00

  What am I talking about?

• 2:25Joe Rogan?

  They played music in the background?

• 2:27Speaker 00

  No, but it looks like that pattern.

• 2:29Joe Rogan?

  Let me see that again. Yeah, it looks a lot like that, like a transplant. Yeah, micrographs.

• 2:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what it looks like, man.

• 2:39Joe Rogan?

  So what I sent you, Jamie, it just shows like the entire country?

• 2:45Joe Rogan?

  Does that show you?

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  Look at that.

• 2:50Speaker 00

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 2:51Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. There's no blue states, just blue cities.

• 2:55Speaker 00

  Well, then, why do you think that, that the, why do you think the cities and states are so much different than?

• 3:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, cities are always gonna be blue. Um, it's normal. It, there's a lot of factors. One of them is you have massive populations of people, right? And you, uh, when you have massive populations of people, the lot of times it's based around universities. Like, Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it's like more around Hollywood, which is equally delusional. But most big cities are flavored by a university. Like, Austin is flavored by the University of Texas.

• 3:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:34Joe Rogan?

  It's why Austin is progressive. Austin is, for people that don't know, outside of Texas, Austin is one of the most progressive cities. Like, if you look at, we voted in Austin, the city of Austin, voted more for Kamala Harris than the city of Los Angeles did.

• 3:49Speaker 00

  Oh, wow, really?

• 3:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a higher percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles.

• 3:55Speaker 00

  Well, I think a lot, it seems like a lot, like, a lot of Democrats, I don't know like a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats, like, it's I understand the, a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting. It's like wishful thinking.

• 4:10Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're, they're feeding off of narratives. Like, you're a good person if you believe this, but the consequences are what they're ignoring. The pretending that the economy's in a great place, that's crazy. Talk to anybody who's broke. Talk to anybody who's struggling to pay for bills and groceries. Talk to anybody who's trying to buy a car. The, the economy's bananas right now. It's sketchy, very sketchy and it

• 4:34Speaker 00

  yeah people are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace

• 4:37Joe Rogan?

  a lot of his recovering from covid I'm sure a lot of I mean there's probably a lot of uh blowback from that I mean they shut the whole fucking country down which is just so nuts

• 4:46Speaker 00

  that was insane man I think that's one of the like but yeah P I mean yeah people are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace my buddy was going to buy a couple walkie talkies off a guy right gets fucking mugged right

• 4:56Joe Rogan?

  really

• 4:57Speaker 00

  yeah he's going to buy a couple of um

• 4:59Joe Rogan?

  so he meets the guy to go get the walkie talkies and the guy mugs them

• 5:02Speaker 00

  that's like the seventh story I've heard but it's like you know people are doing crime you know people are resorting to crime and that's when it's not good I feel like you know

• 5:10Joe Rogan?

  well not just that

• 5:11Speaker 00

  when people are resorting to crime

• 5:13Joe Rogan?

  this administration did that I think is terrible and this is a progressive liberal thing is that you have these DAs these George Soros funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime and uh ge- get the no cash bail thing and when there's no repercussions for crime guess what crime goes way the fuck up

• 5:31Speaker 00

  oh yeah if I'm a criminal and they're like hey it's crime time or whatever

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  yeah

• 5:35Speaker 00

  I'm gonna fucking put on my cleats or whatever I'm gonna get out there

• 5:38Joe Rogan?

  jail and you're just gonna get released

• 5:40Speaker 00

  yeah it's like catch and release it's almost like the um fishing rules or whatever

• 5:45Joe Rogan?

  like if you go trout fishing in the lake

• 5:47Speaker 00

  I mean a little bit

• 5:49Joe Rogan?

  you're a fly fisherman you used to be a cop now you're a fly fisherman with

• 5:53Speaker 00

  you just have a pair of Nikes on the hook

• 5:55Joe Rogan?

  yeah you just put them out there

• 5:58Joe Rogan?

  yeah those fishermen they use barbless hooks and then they let the fish go

• 6:02Speaker 00

  I went fly fishing recently

• 6:04Joe Rogan?

  yeah

• 6:04Speaker 00

  yeah man

• 6:05Joe Rogan?

  you have a good time

• 6:06Speaker 00

  it it it yeah you know what I did I I thought it was like um let me think about what I thought it was like uh

• 6:14Joe Rogan?

  it's the more sophisticated way to go fishing

• 6:15Speaker 00

  yes it was like excuse me fish

• 6:17Joe Rogan?

  yes gentle cast

• 6:19Speaker 00

  yes it was like hey

• 6:21Joe Rogan?

  it also requires a lot more skill

• 6:23Speaker 00

  well it require- requires more patience

• 6:26Joe Rogan?

  for sure

• 6:26Speaker 00

  you can't like um like if you have a kid or whatever you can't do it like you

• 6:31Joe Rogan?

  right

• 6:32Speaker 00

  like if you're just fishing on the bank you can have your kid and he can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do you know but if you if you're in that you have to constantly be moving it

• 6:40Joe Rogan?

  right

• 6:40Speaker 00

  you know it's very kind of like um it's kind of homoerotic almost it's like hey fish or whatever yeah

• 6:48Joe Rogan?

  flailing

• 6:49Speaker 00

  it's like hey fish

• 6:51Joe Rogan?

  think so

• 6:51Speaker 00

  yeah dude you ever seen those guys

• 6:57Speaker 00

  It's like, hey fish, I'm over here. I'm over here, boy.

• 7:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, the least sophisticated form of fishing is like a bobber with a worm on it.

• 7:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 7:06Joe Rogan?

  That's the least. You throw it out there, but that's some of the most fun fishing, because that bobber starts moving, you're like, oh shit.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit, I think we got one. Oh shit.

• 7:13Speaker 00

  It's like Jaws, all of a sudden.

• 7:14Joe Rogan?

  Fishing's so exciting.

• 7:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, my grandma used to take us fishing, dude, and she would, she was like a malignant fisherman or whatever, and she would, um...

• 7:23Joe Rogan?

  Degenerate?

• 7:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, like very... She was like a staunch fisherman, like...

• 7:28Joe Rogan?

  Staunch.

• 7:28Speaker 00

  Like, we're fishing, you know?

• 7:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, aggressive.

• 7:31Speaker 00

  You better not fucking not fish, you know?

• 7:33Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 7:33Speaker 00

  She would like kinda have that kinda behavior. Yeah, she was very, you better fucking fish, white boy.

• 7:38Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 7:38Speaker 00

  You know, she would kinda be like that. Yes, very aggressive, right?

• 7:41Joe Rogan?

  About fishing for little kids.

• 7:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, and we'd have to be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber. But she was really, um, she loved to fish.

• 7:51Joe Rogan?

  Did she love to eat fish?

• 7:52Speaker 00

  Yep, she liked to skin them and grill them and everything.

• 7:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 7:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was cool.

• 7:56Joe Rogan?

  What kinda fish?

• 7:57Speaker 00

  Mostly catfish, bullheads. We used to fish up in like Spoon River, up in like Illinois.

• 8:01Joe Rogan?

  Did you guys use like, uh, chicken liver for...?

• 8:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 8:04Speaker 00

  We would get out there, we'd have a little thermos full of chicken liver.

• 8:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, chicken liver works, man.

• 8:08Speaker 00

  My grandfather would say anything and she'd fucking look at him. He wouldn't talk for a month after that.

• 8:14Joe Rogan?

  She was the fisherman.

• 8:15Speaker 00

  She was.

• 8:15Joe Rogan?

  The fisherwoman.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, she was, she loved to fish. I think she liked, um, she liked catching her own meals, even, you know, she didn't like to hunt, but she liked to fish.

• 8:24Joe Rogan?

  What's that fucking dude's name, the chubby dude that, uh, dressed up like the devil and everybody got mad? He's a singer, Sam. What's that? Sam Smith? Sam Smith, yeah. He...

• 8:36Joe Rogan?

  He said he wanted to be a fisher them.

• 8:38Speaker 00

  Oh, gosh.

• 8:39Joe Rogan?

  Not a fisherman, a fisher her, a fisher she, a fisher them.

• 8:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's wild.

• 8:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the they/them thing is, that's the best evidence you need that people are out of their fucking minds. You can't be plural, you fucking idiot. Stop.

• 8:53Speaker 00

  The only thing, I think it's like, it's almost...

• 8:56Joe Rogan?

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• 10:57Speaker 00

  If you're being plural, you're, uh... I don't understand it. Like, if you're being plural, are you being like, there's more of me, kind of? Like, that's what I understand. Is it like an ego trip? Like, that's, you know, like, um, that's what I don't understand about the...

• 11:11Joe Rogan?

  It's just a way to be unique, and it's a way to be in a marginalized community if you're just a regular person. So, like, if you're a regular white person, you're at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke people. But if you're queer or non-binary, now you're in a protected group.

• 11:28Speaker 00

  My buddy's queer, actually.

• 11:30Joe Rogan?

  Nice. What does he have to do to be queer?

• 11:32Speaker 00

  Nothing. He's cool. He's just, he doesn't... Yeah, he didn't, like, send you an email update or whatever. He's just...

• 11:38Joe Rogan?

  Did he update his Twitter pronouns?

• 11:40Speaker 00

  No, he's just like a...

• 11:42Joe Rogan?

  Just decides he's queer?

• 11:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's like a secret. Not secret, he's like... Uh, he's just like a, or... I don't even know what they call it. I gotta look at the chart or whatever.

• 11:51Joe Rogan?

  What is queer these days? Because when I was a kid, queer was gay. If someone was queer, they're gay. Or if you got punched in the head, then you're on queer street. It was like, everything was confusing. Queer was confusing.

• 12:02Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 12:03Joe Rogan?

  And then queer became gay, somewhere along the line. But now I think queer is whatever you want it to be.

• 12:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:11Joe Rogan?

  You could be gay, bi, straight, and then you could be pansexual.

• 12:18Speaker 00

  And what is that?

• 12:19Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. That's the way Brady is.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  He's pansexual?

• 12:22Joe Rogan?

  He came out.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 12:24Joe Rogan?

  Came out as pansexual. I don't know what that means.

• 12:26Speaker 00

  I can barely handle whatever I am, dude. To be real honest, bro.

• 12:30Joe Rogan?

  It's all so new.

• 12:31Speaker 00

  Whatever I am, bro, it keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women. So... Whatever that one is, that's what I am, bro.

• 12:40Joe Rogan?

  You're theosexual.

• 12:42Speaker 00

  Oh, it's fucking getting kinda heady, man.

• 12:44Joe Rogan?

  You're theosexual. Why are you afraid to talk to the women?

• 12:47Speaker 00

  No, I don't know. You know, I, uh, I, I think I get afraid to, like, I just, I've always, I always got afraid to approach, approach women, you know? Yeah.

• 12:56Joe Rogan?

  But, boy, you're a handsome fellow. You're funny. You're successful.

• 13:00Speaker 00

  I don't know. I think something, I just, uh...

• 13:03Joe Rogan?

  Childhood shit?

• 13:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, probably. There's something, you know, just, yeah, like, I just, I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy. You know, when I, oh, when I was a kid, I would be so nervous. I would, yeah, I would be so nervous.

• 13:16Joe Rogan?

  Which is interesting that you got into stand up comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous.

• 13:20Speaker 00

  Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous, so that didn't affect me.

• 13:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting, because you're nervous all the time. You're like, fuck it, I'll just go be nervous in front of all these people.

• 13:30Speaker 00

  Oh, the audience is the, when you're on stage, the audience is just a woman.

• 13:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, like you're just trying to get them to like you.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  You're just trying to get, yeah, you're like, how do we get this to work out, you know?

• 13:43Joe Rogan?

  How do I get you to like me more? Who do I have to be?

• 13:47Speaker 00

  Dude, the other night was crazy. Sorry, I cut you off. Go on.

• 13:49Joe Rogan?

  No, no, go ahead.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  I got nothing, man.

• 13:51Joe Rogan?

  No, the other night was crazy.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  This week's been cra- it's just been a crazy week.

• 13:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 13:54Speaker 00

  You know, it's been a crazy week, man.

• 13:58Joe Rogan?

  It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was gonna happen. So you're watching the first results roll in and there's like this weird thing. And then Trump gets way ahead, but you're like, you don't wanna like get too hopeful. Like, how far ahead he's in? He's ahead by a hundred points. That seems like a lot.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you're like, what is it? And some channels are like, and then every channel's kinda different.

• 14:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they had different numbers. I was getting a different number off my Apple news update than I was getting off of CNN. And then I was texting people. Like Tulsi and J D Vance, I was getting a different up. Apparently Elon created an app? And he knew who won four hours before the results. So as the results were coming in before, four hours before they called it, Dana White told me Elon was like, I'm leaving, it's over, Donald won. He just fucking, he just fucking somehow or another.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go back into my pod and evaporate.

• 14:53Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling his data from, but he had like the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put their results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states. Kamala's never gonna win those states. So tabulated that and like put it all together. I don't know how he did it.

• 15:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:12Joe Rogan?

  Dana to- I don't even, I haven't even talked to Elon about this. I don't know, like the Dana translation, but Dana said he had an app and he was like showing him. He's like, it's over. He fucking left. Dude just left.

• 15:23Speaker 00

  It's over, John Jones won.

• 15:26Joe Rogan?

  He just fucking left.

• 15:28Speaker 00

  Dude, yeah, I mean, the whole thing's crazy to me. I'm so happy for, uh, my biggest thing was I was so happy for Bobby Kennedy, man.

• 15:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Because he's the only person that I super know, like, as a human, you know?

• 15:40Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  Um, he's been a buddy of mine for years, and I've just known that he's a, like, I trust him, like, you, it's almost like you have, you have people that you know and that are good people. It's like,

• 15:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 15:49Speaker 00

  I have to trust my own instincts at some point and know, I know him.

• 15:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 15:54Speaker 00

  You know, he's a, he's a, somebody I would vouch for.

• 15:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 15:57Speaker 00

  You know, he's a good guy, and he's been helpful to me, like, in, in moments, um, where I have, have, have struggled as a person and just, uh, been inspirational to me, you know, it's like, I know him, you know, like a friend, and so, so that's, I think, like, that was something I was, like, super excited about, just to see where everybody was like, screw this guy, you know? And to see him have a arc where it's like, um, cause all he ever cared about, um, to me, and I don't know, this is just my opinions, dude, some people, everybody has their own opinions, and I'm, I'm an idiot, but, but he, he always cared about, like, um, the rivers and the environment,

• 16:37Speaker 00

  you know, and then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies, right? So for me, that all makes sense, right? And so, like-

• 16:44Joe Rogan?

  You know where it all happened from, right?

• 16:45Speaker 00

  I was super, like, that was, I was super excited about.

• 16:48Joe Rogan?

  Do you know how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs?

• 16:51Speaker 00

  Mm-mm.

• 16:52Joe Rogan?

  He would give these speeches, and he, um, he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers. They cleaned up these river, like, he was an environmental attorney, and, um, they were also talking about the effects of mer- mercury poisoning in the soil and water, and, um, these women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying, you need to investigate mercury in vaccines. And, you know, he thought, like, that is, like, which most people think. You hear vaccine, like, the last thing I want to be labeled is a vaccine skeptic. Jesus Christ, a vaccine denier. That's like, I mean, we talked about this yesterday, but it's like, Holocaust deniers, number one, but vaccine denier and election denier are, like, right under there.

• 17:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:35Joe Rogan?

  And he started looking into it, particularly the MMR vaccines and, and the correlation between the uptick of all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids. And so then he starts doing research on it and the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated and most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration, they, they gave them immunity to prosecution. So they couldn't, they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines ca- caused.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  That's, that's pretty wild.

• 18:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and then of course, these motherfuckers started giving little kids, little babies that were just born hep B vi- vaccines, like, what are you doing? Like, that's a, you get that from needles and sex.

• 18:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, unless it's Pam Anderson's baby, dude, I wouldn't try, I wouldn't put anything in that kid, you know? And no, I don't even know if she has any kids or not. And I love Tommy Lee, so I shouldn't, I don't know.

• 18:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, you fucked up.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  I already done, dude.

• 18:42Joe Rogan?

  It's a joke. What are you gonna do? It's a fucking joke.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, sorry, everything's okay.

• 18:46Joe Rogan?

  I feel the same way about Bobby. I don't know him as well as I know Tulsi, though. Tulsi is, uh-

• 18:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know her.

• 18:52Joe Rogan?

  Tulsi's a good friend of mine. I love her. She's great. She's an awesome person. She's like a legitimate, awesome person. You know, that lady, she served as a congresswoman for eight years and the whole time she was like, she was against this divide of right versus left. She was always trying to be cool with everybody. She served overseas, she was deployed overseas in a milit- in a medical unit, man. So she was helping people that got blown up by the war. Twice. That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair.

• 19:20Speaker 00

  Really?

• 19:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that all came from the stress of being overseas, working in a medical unit. She-

• 19:24Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 19:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, I guess, can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that?

• 19:31Joe Rogan?

  No, your body's, y- y- you can't imagine, you know, I was just talking to my friend Bruce about this last night. He was a cop in Austin. We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the, the stress that has on you. And what he was telling me is you take like a cop that has like 20 years in the job. They, what they see is probably 10x what the average soldier who's deployed sees. Cause you're seeing murder all the time. You're seeing car accidents all the time, suicide all the time, domestic violence all the time. You're pulling people over, you never know if you're gonna get shot. He goes, most of these guys are fucked up because they're just constantly seeing this stuff, constantly.

• 20:13Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. I'd be at home out here, somebody open a jar of Pringles and I'd fucking pull on them, you know? Yeah.

• 20:19Joe Rogan?

  You hear that top pop?

• 20:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, what's going on?

• 20:21Joe Rogan?

  What's happening?

• 20:22Speaker 00

  Dude, we had a, um, police officer on a few years ago, or about a year ago.

• 20:29Speaker 00

  Can you look this up? Jamie said it could ask Jamie to look something up?

• 20:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sure, sure.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  Um, it's a police officer.

• 20:36Joe Rogan?

  How long ago?

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Uh, yes. This guy, retired police officer, um, Sergeant Brad White. This guy was super unique. He lived in Los Angeles. But he told this story. He, he, he was, um, he didn't have any political thoughts. He just told stories of what it was like being a police officer. And, uh, he told the story of his first day on the job. They're chasing a guy. The guy runs into traffic, gets hit by a vehicle and killed, right?

• 21:07Speaker 00

  So, uh, even as it's just a human being, like,

• 21:10Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 21:10Speaker 00

  you're, you're just doing a job, but then you're like trying to compartmentalize or, or how do, you know, what effect did I have on this? What are my, you know, like,

• 21:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 21:19Speaker 00

  He told this story of a mother he called and said that her son was, um, was thinking about committing suicide, right? The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up. He's, he's a police officer. It's in, um, outside of Los Angeles. I think in Whittier Police Department. I could be wrong. He shows up, the mom meets him outside. They see the son comes into the doorway, right? It's like a, a glass door with another door behind it, kind of. Takes his own life, right?

• 21:50Joe Rogan?

  Right in front of everybody.

• 21:51Speaker 00

  Kills himself, right in front of them. So now he's standing there with the mom.

• 21:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 21:55Speaker 00

  Now he has to go, he has to go, he has to console the mother, then go inside of the home. He walks inside. The door won't open because the man's body is there, right? It's, he's having trouble getting it open, even just that moment. He gets it open. Something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt. And it's part of the guy, his brain matter. He had shot himself on the scene.

• 22:23Speaker 00

  So I know that's graphic and stuff, um, but, and then for the next three or four hours, he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his, um,

• 22:36Speaker 00

  Bat wings, whatever the, whatever, what is that?

• 22:38Joe Rogan?

  Bulletproof vest?

• 22:39Speaker 00

  No, inside of your body. Shoulder blades. Shoulder blades, yeah.

• 22:42Joe Rogan?

  And it's brain matter.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it's just like, that's just a regular guy, you know? He might not even have finished college or something, you know? It's like, so just the baffling amount of stuff that police go through. Anyway, I was trying to just like, those are stories that stuck with me when I, when I spoke with that guy. It was like unbelievable.

• 23:00Joe Rogan?

  It's just conveniently ignored by most people who will never be police officers. And then, that was one of the more offensive things about the George Floyd thing. All this defund the police shit, where people rose up and were saying, "Defund the police." And I mean, "Defund the police." And Kamala Harris was one of them. She was out there tweeting, "Defund the police." And because of that, crime just ramped up in certain communities. And so many people wanted the police back, but it then, it's, you know? It's a long process to try to, and to this day, the, most of these cops don't have good morale. They still have this, this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago.

• 23:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 23:39Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to get people to be cops now. They don't want that fucking job, and why would they? It's a fucking hard job.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they don't even, I think the highlight, like, they usually, they used to play like softball in our area against like the fire department. That was like the highlight of it, you know? It was like having like, um, competition, you know? But I don't even, like, if you defund them, they're not even super funded. You don't ever see a cop with like a, um, boat. Or, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't-

• 24:08Joe Rogan?

  A baller cop.

• 24:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, you don't see a fucking, yeah.

• 24:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, if you think about how hard that job is, like, hard jobs should pay more.

• 24:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude.

• 24:15Joe Rogan?

  You know? Like, what is the, I think if you paid them too much, though, then they just quit. Like, "I got enough, I'm out."

• 24:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know if it's tough.

• 24:22Joe Rogan?

  Because like, what's harder, being a rapper or being a cop? It's fucking way harder being a cop.

• 24:27Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I think, yeah.

• 24:29Joe Rogan?

  But rappers get paid way more.

• 24:30Speaker 00

  That's true. Cops just, I think a lot of cops will start making albums from their car.

• 24:38Speaker 00

  There really should be some, there should be a great producer that goes on a ride along with a police officer. This is gonna happen, watch. And makes a dope track with a cop.

• 24:48Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 24:49Speaker 00

  And you could make a dope, and you'd have so much great visuals.

• 24:52Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 24:52Speaker 00

  And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department.

• 24:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel, and you could sample that.

• 25:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:01Joe Rogan?

  Sample that and turn it into songs.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  We got him!

• 25:05Speaker 00

  In pursuit.

• 25:06Joe Rogan?

  Different codes, different codes, 5150, isn't that when someone's crazy?

• 25:10Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, that's crazy, right there. That's 50, I think 44.

• 25:15Joe Rogan?

  Is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy nominated rapper Sacramento police officer records new deployment recruitment video.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  Pull him up, man.

• 25:25Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 25:28Speaker 02

  I looked, I just figured there could have already been one.

• 25:30Speaker 00

  What's that, 5150?

• 25:31Joe Rogan?

  What do you have to do to be a Grammy nominated? Grammy nominated doesn't impress me. Like Grammy winning, that impressed me. Grammy nominated?

• 25:38Speaker 00

  Dude, my Grammy will nominate.

• 25:38Joe Rogan?

  Who nominated you?

• 25:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. My Grammy will nominate anybody. She liked, uh, Travelin' Wilburys.

• 25:44Joe Rogan?

  You didn't?

• 25:45Speaker 00

  She, I mean, I didn't. I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, "Hey, they're good," I respect that a little bit more, but that's just me, you know? Laney Wilson, I love, she's great. Red Clay Strays, Stephen Wilson Jr.

• 25:57Joe Rogan?

  Red Clay Strays are great.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  They're good, huh?

• 25:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. There's good music out now. It's a good time for music because like, you could find things so easily. You know, you don't have to wait for the radio. You just find stuff. People send you stuff, like in the green room all the time. Someone will play something, I go, "What is this?" And I'll Shazam it, like, "Oh shit." It's nice. That Shazam thing, that feature is so huge.

• 26:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:20Joe Rogan?

  You know on Google Pixel phones, there's an option to just have it on all the time? So anytime a song's playing, you can look down at your phone and it'll tell you what song's playing?

• 26:29Speaker 00

  Uh-uh, I didn't know it.

• 26:30Joe Rogan?

  They still do that? I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  Um, what was I thinking? I feel all over the place today, Joe. You ever feel like that?

• 26:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:42Speaker 00

  Like you open your life.

• 26:44Joe Rogan?

  I haven't been sleeping.

• 26:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, I didn't sleep well.

• 26:45Joe Rogan?

  Two days in a row, I didn't sleep. The night of the election, I could not sleep. I got home, I was wired.

• 26:52Speaker 00

  Did you jerk off or not that night?

• 26:53Joe Rogan?

  No, no, I just sat in front of the TV. I was watching professional pool, sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith. Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3:30 in the morning. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up. She was like, what happened? Who won? I was like, Trump won in a landslide.

• 27:08Speaker 00

  You're like the Spurs.

• 27:09Joe Rogan?

  And then she was up. I'm like, it was a landslide. Like, it was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was gonna happen in 2022. Hey, Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020 versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024. That they're still saying it was a giant jump.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  That's, that's what I see too.

• 27:38Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people think it's bullshit.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  Could be.

• 27:40Joe Rogan?

  Lot of, there's a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers. Because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million. It's really crazy if you look at the chart.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  Well, did, uh, yeah, did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year?

• 27:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:58Speaker 00

  That's what I, I don't know what the visual report is for this year, but then I get.

• 28:02Joe Rogan?

  This is the most consequential election I think I've ever felt.

• 28:05Speaker 00

  For sure.

• 28:06Joe Rogan?

  For sure. The way people felt about it too, the people on the left thought, they were convinced that Hitler was coming. They're convinced that some right wing authoritarian is gonna come down and take away all your rights and.

• 28:18Speaker 00

  Well, that's a me, that's a, that's the media does that.

• 28:21Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. One hundred percent. Not what he was saying, not what he did for four years in office. It's all the media and we're all victim of it a little bit. Because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him, because then you're, you gotta defend the fact that no, he didn't really do that. He's not really a felon. There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers.

• 28:49Joe Rogan?

  This is just Texas, right? 61% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race. But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in. Because the nationwide numbers were, they're pretty consistent. Like through the entire, like if you look at 2012, it's consistent with 2016, which is also consistent with 2024. The anomaly is 2020. In 2020, everything goes way up, way up.

• 29:23Speaker 00

  Maybe because people were sitting at home and so bored and they said it's that much a do, you think?

• 29:27Joe Rogan?

  Could be, could be, because it was during COVID. Could be they, a lot of people weren't working, so they did have the opportunity to vote. Voting should be a national holiday.

• 29:37Speaker 00

  I agree, I don't understand.

• 29:39Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy that you give some people a complication, like imagine if you have a shithead boss. Like, "I gotta vote, why did you vote early?" "Because I was working for you, piece of shit." "Let me go, let me go vote."

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, they give Christopher Columbus as a holiday, dude. The Lieutenant Dan of the 1400s. That dude gets a fucking holiday, okay?

• 29:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, why don't you go read what that guy did? Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained it to Indigenous Peoples' Day, like, and the Indigenous people are like, "Thanks." After you wiped out 90% of us, "Thanks for giving us a day." How about we keep that day, that's fine, but how about we have an election? National election holiday. We could do it one more holiday.

• 30:17Speaker 00

  Celebrate it, it's a great day, people can rejoice, and then I think-

• 30:20Joe Rogan?

  Cookouts.

• 30:21Speaker 00

  Yep, it would take a lot of stress off people, too. It's like, today's also a day of celebration. It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever.

• 30:30Joe Rogan?

  You should have a paid-

• 30:30Speaker 00

  And eat in my car.

• 30:31Joe Rogan?

  It should have, be a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day that election comes, because everybody should be able to go vote. That's what it should be, we should make it, we'll talk to Trump about it. Make it a nationally mandated holiday.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  I don't have his number, I don't know, I mean, I, there's a guy in his department that has his number.

• 30:49Joe Rogan?

  We could hook it up, I know some people.

• 30:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude, it was just, what a, I mean, just like, what a crazy week.

• 30:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, very crazy. Well, you were one of the first guys to have him on the podcast. Did you have any hesitancy of having him on at all?

• 31:09Speaker 00

  My brother, actually, my brother's, my brother's a lot smarter than me and he said, "Hey, man, uh, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right? Like, you could, people, some people could be upset about it."

• 31:25Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 31:26Speaker 00

  You know? And I thought about that a little bit and I was like, "Well, I don't really, like, I, like, I don't know, you know, like, I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that and it's like, it's hard to find a group that really embodies them. And if anything, right now for me, it seems like, I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties."

• 31:45Joe Rogan?

  They're not.

• 31:46Speaker 00

  It doesn't see, like, this isn't Democrats and Republicans, there's something else transmorphing right now.

• 31:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 00

  And so, um, I thought, like...

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• 33:43Speaker 00

  I thought, well, I think I'm, I just want to be able to have a chance to talk to this guy, you know? And the main thing for me was like, um, like you talked about Dana White earlier, he's really, uh, you know, I know that you guys worked together and he, you know, I knew that Trump's brother suffered from addiction, right? I knew that, right? I heard that or something and I looked into it and it's like, okay, he lost his brother, his brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know? And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump, like is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional well to him than it seems like that's in the public.

• 34:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like if you had on a guy like Trump, you were platforming this bad person. This was this thing.

• 34:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I didn't think about that at all.

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  But it's a, it's, it's an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people. And it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on anybody. Look, I'm, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris. I'm like, I bet there's a person in there. I bet I can get to that person.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:59Joe Rogan?

  I wanted to find that person. I don't want to hear all the speeches. I don't want to hear, I was raised middle class. I don't want to hear any of that shit.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  She's a roller skater, you know that?

• 35:06Joe Rogan?

  No, I would love to find that out.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:09Joe Rogan?

  I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit. I would, I literally said, like, cause there was a few restrictions of things that didn't want to talk about, but I said, I don't give a fuck. I go get her in here, like whatever you want to talk about. And they want to know if I edit. I'm like, there's not going to be any editing. There's no editing.

• 35:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:25Joe Rogan?

  We're not going to edit. But.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the same thing they asked us. Is there an edit?

• 35:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I just wanted to talk. I just like, I feel like you give someone a couple of hours and you start talking about anything. I'm gonna see the pattern of the way you think. I'm gonna see the way you process ideas. I'm gonna see whether or not you're calculated or whether you're just free.

• 35:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:47Joe Rogan?

  Or are you comfortable with you? Or do you, are you projecting things? Like, she's got eighty different accents. How do you decide which one to pull out?

• 35:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:58Joe Rogan?

  She busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to.

• 36:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:01Joe Rogan?

  They should have made her talk to a bunch of Chinese folks. I would have loved to hear that accent. I wanna see what, you know.

• 36:06Speaker 00

  I do that too, though. I like to meet people where they're at.

• 36:09Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 36:09Speaker 00

  Oh, if I see somebody that's, you know, I'll be like, "What's happening, my friend?" You know? I like to meet people where they are, you know?

• 36:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she did one with Latinos. We should talk with a Latino accent. Like, this is wild. But she's a chameleon. But if you wanna be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait.

• 36:26Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 36:26Joe Rogan?

  You know? It's like a comedian that's always on. They kinda get annoying, but if you wanna be a comedian, that's probably a good trait. Wanna be a politician, you should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:42Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 36:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:43Joe Rogan?

  But maybe not. Maybe it's just like the, I always feel like the environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake. It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is. So like, when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about doing cocaine, then it makes you like an owl.

• 37:07Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

• 37:08Joe Rogan?

  It was hilarious. It was hilarious, but it was like, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out, like, who is this psycho I'm sitting here talking to?

• 37:19Speaker 00

  I remember that shit. I'll fucking make a nest in my living room, dude. That shit, boy. You'll fucking, I'll scoot over to the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak, homie. Ah, there's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man.

• 37:33Joe Rogan?

  I can only imagine. You, you talking to him like as a person is like almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does. Because when he's in front of everybody talking, we're gonna make America amazing, those are great speeches. But you don't, like she had an amazing speech. When I was like she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like scared to debate her, but he says all these things. But you know what, what I always heard, if you wanna say something, say it to my face. And the whole place went crazy and she was laughing.

• 38:06Speaker 00

  I didn't see that.

• 38:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so good. It was her best speech for sure. And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president.

• 38:14Speaker 00

  Maybe that is what got people involved.

• 38:16Joe Rogan?

  Biden stepped down and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and like it really made you feel like

• 38:26Speaker 00

  Oh, she's cute. She's kinda cute.

• 38:27Joe Rogan?

  She was hot.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:28Joe Rogan?

  She was younger. She was a smoke show.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  She's still alright. She got that thang on her, I bet.

• 38:32Joe Rogan?

  So that

• 38:36Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying?

• 38:37Joe Rogan?

  I do know what you're saying. That's why it's so crazy.

• 38:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, cuz a lot of brothers love her too.

• 38:40Joe Rogan?

  Everybody seems to love her.

• 38:41Speaker 00

  Look, if the brothers like it, she got that thang on her. That's all I'm saying, you know?

• 38:45Joe Rogan?

  I understand what you're saying. Um, but like that one speech was almost enough for her to win. And if she just didn't talk other than speeches, but they would have done, they needed to do a better job with the speeches because every speech was the same. And the problem with that is, uh, we were talking about this, like the internet. You get to see that speech over and over going online, like, and then people make compilations of speech.

• 39:06Speaker 00

  Right, and then the same thing.

• 39:08Joe Rogan?

  But it's like if someone goes to see your act, you know, they don't understand like acts, like to develop a bit, it takes months and months and months to really like put it together where it's like rock solid. And you're gonna do it the same way or slightly different every night. And if someone comes to see you and goes, Theo's so full of shit, man. He told us the other day that it was just the other day.

• 39:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:28Joe Rogan?

  But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later. It wasn't just the other day. It was three fucking weeks ago, dude. You're just, you're repeating the same shit.

• 39:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, you got too many leap years, white boy. Yeah, shit like that.

• 39:40Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. So that's what they feel about like a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over and over. Well, hey, you're not supposed to go see all those speeches.

• 39:48Speaker 00

  But yeah.

• 39:49Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 39:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:50Joe Rogan?

  But the thing is about Trump.

• 39:51Speaker 00

  You're not following the Grateful Dead here.

• 39:53Joe Rogan?

  Trump rambles.

• 39:55Speaker 00

  But Trump has a lot, though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive.

• 39:57Joe Rogan?

  He does, but not in the same order. It's like going to see a Grateful Dead show. It's like, fuck, it's all over the place. You know, he's, when Trump gets out there, he just does tugging. Did you see, he accepted, he had this long-winded speech about the rocket.

• 40:13Speaker 00

  That was insane, dude. I'm like, you just won the presidency.

• 40:16Joe Rogan?

  Edit, edit that down. You can edit that down. That could be two minutes.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  Beautiful arms.

• 40:21Joe Rogan?

  I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking. When he was talking about Lincoln's bedroom, I was like, oh, boy. Like, where is this going?

• 40:31Speaker 00

  I went, I've been to Lincoln's bedroom.

• 40:32Joe Rogan?

  How was it?

• 40:33Speaker 00

  Uh, it was okay. I think you can bring it up, actually. It's in Springfield, Illinois.

• 40:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it is? No, he was talking about the one that's in the White House.

• 40:41Speaker 00

  Oh, no, I've been to just his child, um, before he got elected.

• 40:44Joe Rogan?

  Go to his childhood home. Oh, wow.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  It's really interesting. He used to keep his notes in his hat.

• 40:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that was a good move.

• 40:50Speaker 00

  Pretty cool.

• 40:51Joe Rogan?

  They had big ass hats back then.

• 40:52Speaker 00

  That head wallet, baby. He had that bitch on him.

• 40:54Joe Rogan?

  That's a good move. That's a good move. It's like credit cards behind your phone, that kind of thing. Except if you lose your phone, you lose everything.

• 40:59Speaker 00

  But you ain't losing that big ass hat. That hat was fucking long, dude.

• 41:04Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it crazy, man? You ever see like how many dudes wore like fancy hats back in the day? That shit just went away.

• 41:11Speaker 00

  It did.

• 41:12Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family. You're like, our family makes hats, bro. I'm balling forever. I'm gonna take over this business. And then, no hats. If you watch, there's a great, uh, outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada. Between Jack Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries. And I think this is.

• 41:35Speaker 00

  Jim Jeffries?

• 41:36Joe Rogan?

  Yes, not that guy. Another one.

• 41:40Speaker 00

  Not, it's not the-

• 41:41Joe Rogan?

  Not the comedian.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  No, I'm talking about the murderer.

• 41:43Joe Rogan?

  No. Maybe. I don't think so. I think he's just a boxer.

• 41:47Speaker 00

  Who was it?

• 41:48Joe Rogan?

  James Jeffries. So see if Ja- Jack Johnson versus, this is it.

• 41:52Speaker 00

  Who was, who killed the people with that Kool-Aid or whatever?

• 41:55Joe Rogan?

  When you, there's a video of all these folks that are walking like to the event and every man has a fucking hat on, dude. They all, look, they all have hats. Look, they all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys. They're taking off their hats, waving their hats. Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this.

• 42:13Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 42:14Joe Rogan?

  Dude, they all have these fancy hats.

• 42:16Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 42:17Joe Rogan?

  They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats. First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention with that many people on the streets dressed up in suits. That's it. It's the only time you're ever gonna see them. These are like regular men walking on the streets. Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button up shirt and a suit jacket. That's, uh, Jim Jeffries right there.

• 42:38Speaker 00

  Oh, those guys are good, dude. James J. Braddock.

• 42:41Joe Rogan?

  That's John L. Sullivan.

• 42:43Speaker 00

  No way.

• 42:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:44Speaker 00

  The guy from, um, that's the guy from Monopoly too, right there.

• 42:48Joe Rogan?

  He was a bare knuckle boxer back in the Dizay. So, uh, and he was still famous back then.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  Wow, look at him putting it all together. That's so cool.

• 42:56Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that cool? So they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  That's how it goes. Jim Jeffries was trying to make a comeback. He was a little bit older. Back then, bro, boxing would go until someone died.

• 43:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:11Joe Rogan?

  They would have, I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then? They were crazy. It was like eighty rounds or something. Like, what's the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie? I think they had some insane amount of rounds.

• 43:26Speaker 00

  That's a good question.

• 43:27Joe Rogan?

  The greatest number of rounds was two hundred and seventy-six in a four hour and thirty minute fight when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunny in Cheshire in eighteen twenty-five. Holy fuck, dude. And we're introduced in eighteen sixty-seven. Each round of a fight would last until someone was knocked down.

• 43:49Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 43:54Joe Rogan?

  Bro, bro, 276 rounds is so crazy.

• 43:59Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 44:00Joe Rogan?

  That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag.

• 44:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 44:04Joe Rogan?

  You just get, you don't have to swallow vitamins. You just get your, your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm just joking, Brendan.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  110, I guess.

• 44:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  At New Orleans, that's where it was.

• 44:19Joe Rogan?

  In 18, it's, well, he lived to 94, he lived to 1867, 1820. Oh, these are the, when they die, oh, because of 1893, it lasted 110 rounds. Oh my god. Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw.

• 44:36Speaker 00

  Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude.

• 44:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, seven hours.

• 44:43Speaker 00

  Having to fend off a guy.

• 44:45Joe Rogan?

  Having to take a shit. You're in the middle of a 200 round fight, you have to take a shit.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  They should have a diaper round, we have to fight and shit at the same time.

• 44:52Joe Rogan?

  I would bet it'd affect your punching power if you just waddle around and shit.

• 44:56Speaker 00

  Of course. Dude, I don't think there's a way you can shit and punch at the same time, can there?

• 45:01Joe Rogan?

  It would be very hard, very hard.

• 45:02Speaker 00

  Look that up.

• 45:03Joe Rogan?

  Very hard.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  Um, because yeah, think about it.

• 45:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No, you need to tighten all that up if you're gonna throw a good punch, like your ass cheeks tighten. Because you kind of use your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch, not effectively.

• 45:20Speaker 00

  Fuck, yeah, we cracked the code, bro.

• 45:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we cracked the code. You're gonna lose that round. So I guess they probably just pissed themselves, I know guys who've shit themselves in the UFC. Multiple guys, yeah.

• 45:30Speaker 00

  Oh, that breaks my heart.

• 45:31Joe Rogan?

  I believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once. Um, who else? Someone came out there, Michael Chiesa, looked over at me once while I was doing commentary. And I think he got called, I mean, it was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker, so he didn't get as much warm up time as he wanted.

• 45:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:50Joe Rogan?

  And then all of a sudden he's running out there and he looked at me, he goes, dude, I'm about to shit my pants. I go, really? He goes, yeah, I'm about to shit my pants. And he won. He went out there and won first round submission.

• 46:00Speaker 00

  Cause he had to.

• 46:01Joe Rogan?

  Cause he had to.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude, there's another.

• 46:03Joe Rogan?

  So is this the fight? Oh, is this another guy who shit his pants? Five fighters who poop their shorts. Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself, little bit.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there. So that's crazy.

• 46:15Joe Rogan?

  Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself. Randleman shit himself?

• 46:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:18Joe Rogan?

  It happens, man. Look, you're getting your

• 46:20Speaker 00

  Oh, I'm not dead, yeah.

• 46:21Joe Rogan?

  Liver pounded on, you're getting need in the guts.

• 46:24Speaker 00

  Oh, I got in a car accident once and it happened.

• 46:27Joe Rogan?

  You shit yourself?

• 46:28Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. I didn't want to, it just, I didn't have a choice. It just happened. It wanted to.

• 46:32Joe Rogan?

  She shit her pants too. Justine Kitch, congratulations. I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that, that on OnlyFans. You sell them shitty drawers.

• 46:42Speaker 00

  And that's Mark Goddard right there. Call timeout, brother.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  He just stepped in it.

• 46:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, is that what it is? That's the poop? Oh, no! Imagine if you're like face down, if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke, and they didn't clean the mats that good, and the person before shit all over the place? You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked?

• 47:02Speaker 00

  God, that makes me scared.

• 47:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a scary job. That's the scariest job. You think, uh...

• 47:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, I went to that fight with you. Or no, I went to that fight, remember me and Joey Diaz went?

• 47:11Joe Rogan?

  Which one?

• 47:12Speaker 00

  In New York. Oh, it was, oh, I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went and saw the James J. Braddock statue. Before, it was in New Jersey. Before Dustin and, um, that last fight that he had.

• 47:24Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  No, the one before the last fight.

• 47:27Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Justin Gagey? That was in...

• 47:29Speaker 00

  No, after that. It was in New Jersey.

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  Okay. The pride of... Yeah, yeah, yeah, Benoit Saint-Denis. Yeah.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 47:38Speaker 00

  No, no, no.

• 47:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 47:39Speaker 00

  Was it?

• 47:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he beat up Benoit Saint-Denis and knocked him out.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Uh, Islam Makachev.

• 47:44Joe Rogan?

  That was after that.

• 47:45Speaker 00

  He lost Islam.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  That was in Jersey.

• 47:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, which one was in Jersey? Islam?

• 47:48Speaker 00

  He didn't beat, he didn't beat Islam in Jersey.

• 47:51Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right. So he fought Benoit Saint-Denis, then he gets a title shot against Islam.

• 47:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, I went with Joey, and I went to the, um, James J. Braddock statue before.

• 48:00Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  It was awesome, dude.

• 48:02Joe Rogan?

  Islam's a monster. He's so good.

• 48:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was crazy. And Joey was like, what do I... Dude, he was...

• 48:11Speaker 00

  This is all love, dude. He is a fucking tremendous, he's one of a kind. And his book is great too, if you haven't read his book. But, um, he's sitting there, he'd been eating, he'd been eating mushrooms, you know? And once he even started eating a little, you could see Aaron Rodgers start to look over, you know, he was getting curious, you know, he's like, what was happening, you know?

• 48:31Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 48:31Speaker 00

  By the sixth quarter or whatever, I don't know how the fights go, but it's like, by the sixth quarter, he's just rubbing on his thighs, right? He's talking, he goes, "Who's winning, dog?" That's what he kept saying to me.

• 48:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I can't wait to see him again.

• 48:46Speaker 00

  Joey used to shovel snow for James J. Braddock.

• 48:49Joe Rogan?

  Did he really?

• 48:50Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 48:51Joe Rogan?

  Wow. That's crazy.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  It's one of my favorite things that I ever learned about him.

• 48:55Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 48:56Speaker 00

  Can you imagine that?

• 48:58Joe Rogan?

  That is crazy.

• 49:02Speaker 00

  What else is going on?

• 49:08Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna see him in a couple of weeks. He's coming out here. Joey is gonna start staying out here for months at a time. Yeah, he wants to get a place downtown, either club.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  Me too, I'm gonna come back and look in about a week and a half.

• 49:18Joe Rogan?

  Every time he comes, like, "I gotta come out here, dog." I'm like, "Come on, we'll make it easy for you." I'm like, "We'll make it easy for you." You tell me when you wanna come, you come, we'll fly you out, put you up, whatever you want, I'll get you a real estate lady, let's get the party started. And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now. Cause him and Lee Syatt, they were together when they were at the club together, and I'm like, "Come on, let's get the band back together." You guys together were fucking amazing.

• 49:42Speaker 00

  There was nothing like, that show kept people alive.

• 49:44Joe Rogan?

  That show, Joey Diaz's show, was one of the most ridiculous, silly, preposterous shows. It was so ridiculous. And then he went to New Jersey, and here's the problem with Joey in New Jersey. He loves New Jersey, he loves New Jersey people, he needs comedians. And you forget that until you're not with them, and then you're like, "Oh, this ain't no fun."

• 50:06Speaker 00

  He was talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know, a decent sense of humor.

• 50:11Joe Rogan?

  I like talking to all kinds of people, obviously, but I need comedians in my life, like I need vitamins. Like, I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D. I need, I need comedians. It's too, like, that night that we had in that green room, watching the elections, how many jokes were cracked? How many fucking times we rag on Tony?

• 50:30Speaker 00

  Oh, dude.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  We talked Tony off the ledge.

• 50:32Speaker 00

  We did it. Tony's just talking.

• 50:34Joe Rogan?

  Tony's like, got statistics, 26% more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump.

• 50:40Speaker 00

  Bro, he had the Puerto Rican app open on his whoop bracelet. I'm like, they have that? What is that?

• 50:47Joe Rogan?

  Bro, the whole thing-

• 50:48Speaker 00

  He was like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind.

• 50:52Joe Rogan?

  They tried to label him as a speaker. They said he was a speaker. A speaker? That was at the Trump rally? He said that Puerto Rico was a pile of garbage. These are human beings.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Was that Adam Ray?

• 51:07Joe Rogan?

  That's Obama.

• 51:08Speaker 00

  Oh, it is?

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  A speaker? That was at the Trump rally? He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pile of garbage.

• 51:17Speaker 00

  Dude, the simple fact that Obama was talking about Tony Hinchcliffe is crazy.

• 51:21Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Obama's doing a Tony Hinchcliffe bit.

• 51:27Joe Rogan?

  There's a video of us at the mothership.

• 51:29Speaker 00

  What is going on?

• 51:30Joe Rogan?

  We played it yesterday, but I want to play it again, Jamie. Play the video, it's on my Instagram, of Tony is onstage in the main room. By the way, Tony goes onstage, it's like Richard Pryor just showed up. They were going nuts. He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it.

• 51:46Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:47Joe Rogan?

  He's onstage.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  No way! At the same time?

• 51:55Joe Rogan?

  At the same time, yeah.

• 52:05Joe Rogan?

  We're definitely in a simulation.

• 52:06Speaker 00

  Oh, my god.

• 52:07Joe Rogan?

  So this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV while Tony was onstage on the TV monitor.

• 52:14Speaker 00

  That's unbelievable. We did it.

• 52:19Joe Rogan?

  He was so nervous, because here's what was gonna happen. If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories if Kamala wins, they have outlines for stories if Trump wins. If, if Trump lost, they were gonna blame it on Tony. They had stories where they're gonna blame it on that joke, and they were gonna say that that joke turned the tides and made people realize that Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and, and they were gonna blame Tony. And Tony would have been fucked. Because then the Trump supporters would have thought that, too.

• 52:53Speaker 00

  Right, so it was like both sides would have disliked Tony.

• 52:55Joe Rogan?

  Absolutely, absolutely.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  He would have had to go to Puerto Rico, or, uh, Costa Rica.

• 53:00Joe Rogan?

  Maybe. Mexico. Mexico's, Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really-

• 53:05Speaker 00

  No, they don't even.

• 53:06Joe Rogan?

  They don't get along that well. In fighting, there's always been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. And a lot of like.

• 53:12Speaker 00

  Really?

• 53:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, man, for sure.

• 53:15Speaker 00

  I didn't know that.

• 53:15Joe Rogan?

  Uh, well, you know, there's no prouder group of boxers, I think, in the history of Earth than Mexican boxers.

• 53:23Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 53:24Joe Rogan?

  Mexican boxers are known for a specific style. Like, if someone says, "You fight like a Mexican." Dude, that's a huge compliment.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:33Joe Rogan?

  Mexicans, like Julio Cesar Chavez, you know, fucking Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, I mean, you can go down the line. You know, Morales, uh, fuck, man, there's so many. Manuel Marquez.

• 53:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:47Joe Rogan?

  So many, man.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, they got just so many punches in one punch.

• 53:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're just, is a, there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far. And it's so, you know, and with boxing, it's always people that are poor that want a way out. And one of the best ways out, if you're a poor young man.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  Punch your way out.

• 54:06Joe Rogan?

  Fight, you can, you can make millions. Like Canelo, like Julio Cesar Chavez, like. So it's like the, the history of people rising through boxing, but there's a similar history in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a history, a great history of boxing, too.

• 54:21Speaker 00

  Really?

• 54:21Joe Rogan?

  But there was always a rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico.

• 54:24Speaker 00

  I could see that because you're both Latino cultures and you wanna be the best, you know?

• 54:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 54:28Speaker 00

  I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a boxing, um, match or not.

• 54:32Joe Rogan?

  You should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. It might be the last boxing match ever.

• 54:36Speaker 00

  I don't know if I wanna see it.

• 54:38Joe Rogan?

  Do you wanna see it if Mike Tyson wins?

• 54:41Speaker 00

  I remember watching Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr.

• 54:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:44Speaker 00

  And it was like two guys, like, in, beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever. It was like.

• 54:49Joe Rogan?

  Baby diapers?

• 54:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, bring it up. They were wearing like big diapers or whatever.

• 54:52Joe Rogan?

  No, they were wearing cups. There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear. So the protector that boxers wears is foam that covers like the front of your hips and things, too.

• 55:05Speaker 00

  Uh, maybe I'm not thinking about it. Maybe I'm thinking about something else then. But it just

• 55:09Joe Rogan?

  This, this to me seemed This is what I believe. I believe really, truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only gonna hit him to the body full blast. It looked like every time he hit him to the head, he was kinda pulling back.

• 55:22Speaker 00

  That's a, it just didn't seem like, this didn't seem like a real fight.

• 55:25Joe Rogan?

  Right. It seemed like a fight to the body, though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard, and I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body. But you know, both of these men are 50. Roy, in his day, I maintain to this day, was the greatest boxer I've ever seen.

• 55:40Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 55:40Joe Rogan?

  Roy Jones, in his prime, was a freak. Like, I mean a freak, where he wouldn't even throw jabs, he would throw a lead left hook. He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab, and people couldn't understand it. Cause you'd never been in a ring with someone that fast. If you look at Roy Jones' highlight reel of KOs, you ever watch like Roy Jones in his prime?

• 56:02Speaker 00

  Uh-uh.

• 56:03Joe Rogan?

  They were execution, son. It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but in a different thing. In fact, in a Nas song, Nas says the new Mike Tyson's Roy Jones.

• 56:12Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 56:13Joe Rogan?

  Roy Jones was just executing people. He was so much faster than anybody. His timing was so good, his power-

• 56:19Speaker 00

  He was a sniper.

• 56:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, he was just so skillful.

• 56:22Speaker 00

  Who would you rather knock you unconscious, you think, if you had to pick a good fighter?

• 56:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I don't know, maybe Roy would just put it out quick, just pop you on the chin and you'd be like, okay-

• 56:30Speaker 00

  Roy or Connor, though?

• 56:31Joe Rogan?

  Both of them will knock you out quick.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  You think?

• 56:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but, and this is his one fight with Roy Jones, with Vinnie Pazienza, was the only fight in Copybox history where the opponent didn't land a single punch.

• 56:42Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 56:43Joe Rogan?

  A single punch. This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signaled to the referee, stop the fight, and the referee said, no, and then Roy goes like this, he's like looking at Vinnie, sorry, I gotta do this.

• 56:55Speaker 00

  I've never even seen that.

• 56:56Joe Rogan?

  He just lights it up. Bro, he was so good in his prime, but like all fighters, they stay past their prime, and people really only remember them for when they lost.

• 57:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:07Joe Rogan?

  You know, Roy in his prime was just something completely special.

• 57:11Speaker 00

  He had an Allen Iverson vibe.

• 57:13Joe Rogan?

  You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last. That's what you would, you would watch, to see what he would do to guys.

• 57:19Speaker 00

  I did a fishing rodeo with him once.

• 57:21Joe Rogan?

  Did you really?

• 57:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 57:22Joe Rogan?

  He's a big fisherman. He, he dropped his hands, put them behind his back, and knocked a guy out.

• 57:29Joe Rogan?

  Like lured the guy in and hit him with a one straight right hand and dropped him. It was one of the, he would just like be toying with dudes.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  Crazy dude. I can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body. And this guy's doing this shit?

• 57:42Speaker 00

  That's what blows my mind dude.

• 57:44Joe Rogan?

  Roy was so good. He was so good.

• 57:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 57:46Joe Rogan?

  And everybody that went in there.

• 57:47Speaker 00

  That brother right there.

• 57:48Joe Rogan?

  There's a thing that happens when a guy's gonna fight like, you would see it with Anderson Silva.

• 57:52Speaker 00

  Who's that, Bill Cartwright? Who's he fighting?

• 57:53Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Some dude is in real trouble. They should have stopped this fight already.

• 57:57Speaker 00

  Oh god, bro.

• 57:58Joe Rogan?

  That dude did not need to take those other two punches.

• 58:03Joe Rogan?

  Dude, he was so fast.

• 58:06Speaker 00

  Yeah dude, Tony was, Tony was, he was changed.

• 58:10Joe Rogan?

  He was terrified. Tony was terrified.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  Right when I walked in, I hadn't seen him in months. I'm just fucking grilling him. I'm like, there he is. I'm like, who's in Ireland now? That's what I said.

• 58:22Speaker 00

  He's fucking sitting there. Who's in Ireland now? Did you really say that to him? Yeah, yeah.

• 58:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 58:28Speaker 00

  And here's the best thing about Tony though. He laughed, like, Tony is for the joke, right?

• 58:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 00

  Like, even if he's like going through it, he respects the joke and like,

• 58:37Joe Rogan?

  Always, always.

• 58:38Speaker 00

  There's many layers to that whole thing. It's like, Tony is who he is.

• 58:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 58:41Speaker 00

  And you, you almost, you respect that to the core. Was it the best timing? Probably not, right?

• 58:47Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 58:47Speaker 00

  Was there a lot of supervision over him, is what he said?

• 58:50Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 58:51Speaker 00

  Probably not.

• 58:51Joe Rogan?

  But that just shows you how disorganized that meeting was.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  It's disorganized, but it's also real. So it's like, there's two ways to look at it. It's like, it's, yes, it's like, nobody proofread it.

• 59:02Joe Rogan?

  Let me clear something there. Cause we did say that they had went over his material. They didn't. They did not go over his material. Um, they did, someone suggested he take one joke out. So he took this one joke out and he had, he's like, oh, what do I put in his place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke.

• 59:19Speaker 00

  You fucking dumbass. Don't you know? We did it.

• 59:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's just so silly.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  But he's the guy.

• 59:29Joe Rogan?

  But he laughs at himself.

• 59:30Speaker 00

  Oh, totally. But also, he's, it's weird, because it's like, do you want things to be tailored? Or you not want them to be tailored? You know?

• 59:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 59:39Speaker 00

  It's like, you could have, you could have a group that goes through every, every single joke and says no to everything.

• 59:44Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 59:44Speaker 00

  And then you get nothing. You get, you, you know what I'm saying? Kind of, it's like, how many layers of, um, like, uh, when you drain spaghetti or whatever I'm talking about? Like, how many layers of?

• 59:56Joe Rogan?

  Spaghetti.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  Nah, shit.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  I don't know, it's been a long year.

• 1:00:03Joe Rogan?

  I, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But I think when you get to a certain level of your career, you gotta say no to things that are outside of comedy.

• 1:00:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:11Joe Rogan?

  If you're just coming up and someone says, you want to go speak in front of the president, go out there. Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best. But if you're Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast, Kill Tony's the number one comedy podcast in the world.

• 1:00:23Speaker 00

  Unreal.

• 1:00:24Joe Rogan?

  Millions and millions of downloads every week. Don't do that. It's just too comedy. You're really good. I just was trying to tell people. If you saw those same jokes on stage, he kills. Fucking crushes. It's just the worst environment ever for it. Lights are bright, it's in the day.

• 1:00:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:00:41Joe Rogan?

  No one knows a comedian. He goes up cold. No one goes on after him. There's like his big ass paws after him. The whole thing was like organized terribly. Terribly. Just complete disorganization. It was like, there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing. Like, what do we do with all the extra time? Like, let anybody talk. Who wants to talk? This guy owns a fucking sandwich shop. Let him come up there. Yeah, look, it's my friend Giovanni. Like, let anybody in there. They were letting people, they were saying wild stuff, too.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  Oh, they were letting anybody in there, dude.

• 1:01:10Joe Rogan?

  And it didn't seem like they vetted a lot of the speeches. Some of the speeches, like, what do you, what do you?

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, they had forty minutes of ASMR in there. They were fucking letting people do anything.

• 1:01:17Joe Rogan?

  Dude, whenever you get an organization, whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats, you gotta kind of like appease everybody. And you got psychos and moderate people. And they're all together under this one banner of this one. Like, have you ever been on a sports team? You just always like one dude on the team that's a fucking psychopath, right?

• 1:01:34Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:35Joe Rogan?

  And you're like, dude, don't cause any fights. Like, leave everybody alone. Let's go. Come on.

• 1:01:38Speaker 00

  We had a brother, he would slash everybody's tires. But then here's the thing, we were giving him a ride home. So it was like, well, now we're all. You know what I'm saying? But that's who he was. You had to respect him. He was a power forward, you know?

• 1:01:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions.

• 1:01:53Speaker 00

  People don't, man. People don't, man.

• 1:01:56Joe Rogan?

  Especially football players, bro. You get hit in the head a lot, you're gonna make some sketchy ass decisions.

• 1:02:01Speaker 00

  Nick Bosa got brave and shared his, uh, political thoughts the other night. You see that?

• 1:02:06Joe Rogan?

  No, I didn't.

• 1:02:07Speaker 00

  Well, it's just crazy how like on, on mainstream stuff, if you share anything in one way, it's okay, but you share something another way, it's not okay.

• 1:02:14Joe Rogan?

  Right. Like if you, nobody got angry at people. They made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris. Like, we made fun of, uh, Dave Bautista. Like, because it looked just so silly, like this performative commercial where it's really important to vote for Kamala and Tim Walz.

• 1:02:31Speaker 00

  Is that the, is he Menuda? Oh, Rlessler.

• 1:02:33Joe Rogan?

  The wrestler, the guy from, uh, Guardians of the Galaxy.

• 1:02:36Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:02:36Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm talking about. Big Jack dude. He's trying to get movies, man. He's wearing pearls to like red carpet events. I know what you're doing. You're trying to get those movies. You gotta like show, you're an artist, you're sensitive, you're on the right side. Put him in the, he wants to be a lead in a movie. Wants to be a movie star.

• 1:02:51Speaker 00

  Then fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something.

• 1:02:54Joe Rogan?

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• 1:05:21Speaker 00

  You mean for Hollywood, you mean?

• 1:05:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wear the beads, wear pearls. It softens you up a little bit, lose some weight, lose a bunch of weight. Talk shit about Trump. He's allowed to be like a tough guy, talking shit about Trump. Did you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch they did? We called Trump a whiny bitch and... You ever seen it?

• 1:05:38Speaker 00

  Or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald Trump that?

• 1:05:40Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no. Batista.

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  They Batista did?

• 1:05:42Joe Rogan?

  You never saw it? Find it, because it's kind of funny.

• 1:05:45Speaker 00

  Is he the Intercontinental Champion? I don't even, I haven't watched wrestling in a bit.

• 1:05:48Joe Rogan?

  He was a big time wrestler, was a giant dude, like fucking built like a superhero. And then he went and did Guardians of the Galaxy.

• 1:05:56Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, with Chris Pratt.

• 1:05:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He's a big giant wrestler dude.

• 1:05:59Speaker 00

  Yes, now I know what you're talking about.

• 1:06:01Joe Rogan?

  But he wants to be a movie star, so he's losing some weight. He's a good actor too, man. He was good in that, um... What was that movie? The Glass?

• 1:06:12Joe Rogan?

  The Glass Onion, yeah, that was a great movie. He was really good in that.

• 1:06:16Speaker 00

  Trying to think of what I've seen recently.

• 1:06:17Joe Rogan?

  He's just like, if you're a big giant dude, and you're a big muscle-bound giant dude, and you wanna do like, serious roles, like, you kinda gotta lose some weight. You know, you gotta, and you kinda gotta like, support Kamala Harris. You kinda gotta like, wear pearls. You kinda gotta like, soften your stance. You know, you gotta kinda like, be performative that you're the guy that they would wanna pick. Cause that's like, part of the battle. Like, here, let me get this.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  Oh, that's him?

• 1:06:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:42Speaker 00

  I thought it was Eddie Bravo, dude.

• 1:07:17Joe Rogan?

  While he's working out.

• 1:07:19Speaker 00

  And where is this? At Jaco's Gym?

• 1:07:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 1:07:25Speaker 00

  That's pretty funny.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  He's got jugs, big ones, like Dolly Parton. He cheats at golf, he creeps around beauty pageant dressing rooms. You know that little dance he does?

• 1:07:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a pervert, dude. Who isn't a pervert?

• 1:07:42Speaker 04

  He's moody, he pouts, he throws tantrums.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  He acts like a five-year-old behind the wheel of a truck.

• 1:07:51Speaker 04

  He bends over for food, he's catty on social media as a middle-school bean girl. The guy needs help walking downhill.

• 1:08:00Speaker 04

  Almost there, grandma. So this November, let's stop kidding ourselves. Donald Trump is afraid.

• 1:08:05Speaker 00

  I don't watch this kinda stuff. Look at this, the punches!

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  Merle [bleep] Street, and being locked at.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  Isn't it past your jail time?

• 1:08:24Speaker 04

  Mostly, he's terrified that real red-blooded American men will find out that he's a weak, tubby toddler. Mommy, take me home, mommy, I wanna go home. Don't you worry, tough guy. Someone grab you by the [BLEEP].

• 1:08:38Speaker 00

  Wow. That closing line's pretty tough, dude.

• 1:08:42Joe Rogan?

  That's not bad. They call him a bitch. But it's like, you know what he's doing?

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:47Joe Rogan?

  Trying to become a movie star. It's a good move. The Hollywood liberals 100% love that.

• 1:08:53Speaker 00

  Well, Hollywood's just crazy to me, dude. I just don't understand it. Like, it seems like they hate white men.

• 1:09:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, some people that work in Hollywood, I'm sure, don't like white men. But that's the thing about woke culture. It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced. White men, even if it's not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because if it's not you, white men, over history, have caused the most grief. They've caused the most trouble. They've been responsible for the most injustices in this country, at least. You know, slavery, red-line laws, bringing the Chinese...

• 1:09:32Speaker 00

  Other people helped with slavery. Let's don't just pin the tail on the honky-donkey.

• 1:09:35Joe Rogan?

  Right. But in America, slaves were exclusively owned by white people. In other countries, they're owned by all kinds of people. This is where it gets weird.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  See, that's what we gotta do, then.

• 1:09:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, what people don't understand is there's more slaves today than there have ever been.

• 1:09:48Speaker 00

  Nuh-uh.

• 1:09:49Joe Rogan?

  There's more slaves today than there were before 1865, when slavery was abolished in America.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  You're lying.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  Nope. There's more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Gaddafi on television, did you ever see that?

• 1:10:04Speaker 00

  Uh-uh, I didn't, uh...

• 1:10:05Joe Rogan?

  It's one of the most terrifying videos...

• 1:10:06Speaker 00

  What channel was it on?

• 1:10:07Joe Rogan?

  Uh, C-SPAN. But Libya became, for a while, became like a failed state. And at one point in time, there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube.

• 1:10:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:20Joe Rogan?

  How crazy is that? Like, look, goo- Google the actual numbers.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:10:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's real statistic. So, and this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal, okay? Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life, of course. But it's also people being exploited. And there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing. Who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking? There's, who knows how many people have been, okay, hold on a second. It says, "Estimates range from about thirty-eight to forty-nine point six million people"

• 1:10:59Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:10:59Joe Rogan?

  are slaves today. "The number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine. Estimates range from thirty-eight to forty-nine million."

• 1:11:08Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:11:09Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh. Yeah.

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:11:14Speaker 00

  I didn't have any clue.

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, you have to include people that can't leave, even if they're not like in cages. People that are trapped, right?

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Like Gaza people, you mean?

• 1:11:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, you, no, I would talk like people that work in coal mines or cobalt mines in the Congo. They're essentially slaves. I mean, they give them the minimal amount of food and water. They work in horrific conditions and they live in complete abject poverty.

• 1:11:38Speaker 00

  But they're treated better than the people in Gaza, though.

• 1:11:41Joe Rogan?

  Perhaps. Well, they're all getting poisoned. They're all getting poisoned pulling that cobalt out of the ground.

• 1:11:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, but still, they're getting lunch, I bet.

• 1:11:50Joe Rogan?

  Probably not, not a good lunch, I would imagine. Either way, yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse. But the point is, like, those people, you could kind of consider slaves. Um, and then there's real slavery. You know, um, this friend of mine was telling me about, um, this place that was built in Jamaica or the Bahamas. I think it was the Bahamas and um they brought in uh Chinese workers in like this giant ship. And he said they they had this patch of land, they put up a fence around the land and all the Chinese workers lived on that land. And the Chinese workers built this resort there and they worked non-stop 24 hours a day. They built the whole thing in 18 months.

• 1:12:33Joe Rogan?

  They would just have shift after shift and once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back in the boat, put them right back to China. So what was that? Was that was that slaves?

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  That's slavery.

• 1:12:45Joe Rogan?

  It would, I mean, it seems like slaves. Like it seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was, but they put a fence around the area. They brought people in a giant ship. And then they put them back in the ship and shipped them back to China like.

• 1:13:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at Fire Fest. Remember Fire Fest or whatever?

• 1:13:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:04Speaker 00

  What the fuck was that dude?

• 1:13:05Joe Rogan?

  Those are the dudes trying to make money.

• 1:13:07Speaker 00

  Right, but still those people got carted over there.

• 1:13:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:10Speaker 00

  Nothing to eat, nowhere to sleep. Definitely different than slavery, but still it's like, yeah, it's like, it's funny. You think just because things happened a long time ago that it's not slavery today, right?

• 1:13:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, I wouldn't say that Fire Festival is a form of slavery.

• 1:13:23Speaker 00

  I I agree.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  Did you see Prop 6 in California?

• 1:13:26Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 1:13:27Speaker 02

  That's on the screen.

• 1:13:29Joe Rogan?

  Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  And it did not pass.

• 1:13:33Joe Rogan?

  What? What? Wait a minute. What?

• 1:13:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:37Joe Rogan?

  In California?

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:39Joe Rogan?

  Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime.

• 1:13:48Speaker 00

  Because a lot of them gay producers trying to trank out them twinks, homie. That's why, bro.

• 1:13:53Joe Rogan?

  Keeping my slaves?

• 1:13:54Speaker 00

  I'll tell you, bro, they fly every now and then.

• 1:13:56Joe Rogan?

  How would you? Why?

• 1:13:57Speaker 00

  Every now and then a friggin', some twink fucking clambers out of an air vent.

• 1:14:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, here it is. It's forced labor in prisons.

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it has to do with paying people to work in prisons and do like they have to fight the wildfires and stuff.

• 1:14:09Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. So they want them to have to work. Wow.

• 1:14:13Speaker 02

  They just don't want to pay.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's California.

• 1:14:16Joe Rogan?

  But that is what happened, right? That was what the Jim Crow laws were all about, man. Like one of the things about slavery is slavery didn't end, boom, now let's give black people jobs. No, slavery ended and then there was this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything.

• 1:14:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:36Joe Rogan?

  And then they'd be forced to work. And they had work camps. And so you were still.

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  The same thing.

• 1:14:42Joe Rogan?

  You could just get caught and you'd be a slave. You get a bad cop decides you're speeding. Whatever it is, you're a slave.

• 1:14:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Speeding, you need to have a car and you're like, you're speeding.

• 1:14:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you know, you're looking at people bad. You're verbally intimidating people, whatever the fuck it is. People like, you see with the, when some, when they, someone wants to target you for something, you pissed off the wrong people. They fucking come after you with the law. And they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn't be free and we're just gonna, with, there's an industry around slave labor, which there is, there's also an industry now of, around keeping people in prison. Right? Cause the prisons are private. So it's a, a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money. You get paid for them being there.

• 1:15:27Speaker 00

  Who gets paid?

• 1:15:28Joe Rogan?

  The private prison. There's contracts with the state.

• 1:15:31Speaker 00

  Like it's like a summer camp or something kinda thing?

• 1:15:33Joe Rogan?

  I don't know who gives the contracts, but no. Prisons are owned by corporations.

• 1:15:39Speaker 00

  Okay, so prisons own corporations.

• 1:15:40Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Prison is owned by a corporation, so it's a business.

• 1:15:45Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:15:46Joe Rogan?

  So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana. So the prison guard lobby, they were, they were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison. Because the more people in prison, the more jobs they have, the more hours they have, the better benefits they'll have. And the prison wants as many people in jail as possible.

• 1:16:07Speaker 00

  Cause they get money.

• 1:16:08Joe Rogan?

  That is how they make money.

• 1:16:09Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:16:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  Who makes the money? It's not the government?

• 1:16:12Joe Rogan?

  No. Well, in some jails, but there's private prisons. Like what is the percentage of private prisons? Well, no, I know we've looked this up, but I forget the number.

• 1:16:19Speaker 00

  Are they nicer?

• 1:16:21Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so.

• 1:16:22Speaker 00

  What about the Excalibur in Las Vegas? That place is a fucking private prison, dude. You ever been there?

• 1:16:29Speaker 00

  Dear God, bro.

• 1:16:30Joe Rogan?

  I heard Circus Circus is going down. That's the ultimate. Circus Circus is like, how is this place legal?

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  Dude, that was-

• 1:16:38Joe Rogan?

  At the end of 2022, 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons.

• 1:16:44Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:16:45Joe Rogan?

  Yep, which is about 90,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system, which is mostly public, which by the way is even crazier. How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage?

• 1:17:00Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:17:01Joe Rogan?

  We have more people in jail than any other country, do you know that?

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, and we need a few more in there too, I think. To be honest, bro. Freedom is a... Some people can't handle freedom.

• 1:17:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, freedom ain't free.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  Freedom ain't free, man. What are you eating over there?

• 1:17:15Joe Rogan?

  Uh, a breaker.

• 1:17:16Speaker 00

  I need a hit of something, man.

• 1:17:17Joe Rogan?

  Want one of these?

• 1:17:18Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 1:17:18Joe Rogan?

  Some-

• 1:17:19Speaker 00

  Oh, that's zins or something?

• 1:17:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:20Speaker 00

  Breakers?

• 1:17:21Joe Rogan?

  You scared of it?

• 1:17:22Speaker 00

  You have a vape on you? This is non-alcoholic.

• 1:17:24Joe Rogan?

  I have this.

• 1:17:25Speaker 00

  What is that?

• 1:17:25Joe Rogan?

  Bust out the smelling salts.

• 1:17:27Speaker 00

  I'll take a hit of anything, dude. I'm about to fucking jerk off just to get high, dude. I need something.

• 1:17:32Joe Rogan?

  What's going on, man? What's happening, Steve?

• 1:17:33Speaker 00

  Just been a long week, man.

• 1:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Anxious?

• 1:17:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, just been a long year, man.

• 1:17:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're successful, you're handsome, I don't understand it.

• 1:17:39Speaker 00

  I don't understand it either. Yeah, I don't trust you, dude.

• 1:17:42Joe Rogan?

  This one's so bad, it stinks. Chuck me a knife, Jamie? You got a knife over there?

• 1:17:46Speaker 00

  That's not the, uh, fishing bait one, is it?

• 1:17:48Joe Rogan?

  No, bro, this one is so strong. I haven't even opened this yet. Sniff it, it's not even opened yet.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  Can't smell it.

• 1:17:57Joe Rogan?

  You can't smell that? You have COVID?

• 1:17:58Speaker 00

  Nope, I don't think so.

• 1:18:01Joe Rogan?

  Shout out to my friend John Reeves who gave me this knife. This knife is made with-

• 1:18:06Speaker 00

  You got a vape in here still, man?

• 1:18:07Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:18:08Speaker 00

  Come on, BLM, dude, what you got? Jamie?

• 1:18:11Joe Rogan?

  What do you need, man? What's wrong with your vape?

• 1:18:13Speaker 00

  I just want to hit a nicotine, there's no nicotine in it.

• 1:18:15Joe Rogan?

  What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Just faking it?

• 1:18:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, just trying to get through it all.

• 1:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Do you want a cigar, perhaps?

• 1:18:22Speaker 00

  It'll make me sick, I bet.

• 1:18:24Joe Rogan?

  Okay, I want you to get sick.

• 1:18:26Speaker 00

  I know.

• 1:18:27Joe Rogan?

  Before I bust out these smelling salts, son. These are... Oh my god.

• 1:18:31Speaker 00

  Tremendous. What round are we?

• 1:18:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  What round are we in, dog?

• 1:18:35Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this one I'm smelling from over there. Here we go. Oh, my god.

• 1:18:39Speaker 00

  Come on, boy. I'll fucking ride that bitch, homie. Huh?

• 1:18:42Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:18:43Speaker 00

  Bareback, huh?

• 1:18:45Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:18:48Speaker 00

  N-words in Paris, baby. Let's get this. You feel me?

• 1:18:51Joe Rogan?

  Get it, get it.

• 1:18:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, lord, right? There's nothing like a fresh.

• 1:18:58Speaker 00

  How many seconds did I do, man? That's PBR shit.

• 1:19:00Joe Rogan?

  You had a good, good haul.

• 1:19:02Speaker 00

  Let me get one more.

• 1:19:03Joe Rogan?

  One more.

• 1:19:04Speaker 00

  Sorry, sorry, man.

• 1:19:05Joe Rogan?

  Get back in there, son. Don't be scared. I like it. I like it. Oh, lord. Yeah, I can't leave you alone out there in Two Land. I gotta get a dose in myself. Here we go.

• 1:19:16Speaker 00

  Oh, my god. Ugh.

• 1:19:20Speaker 00

  Fuck, I just think I saw who won the Heisman.

• 1:19:24Speaker 00

  Oh, my god. Bro, that shit made something happen to me.

• 1:19:29Joe Rogan?

  Those are so strong.

• 1:19:30Speaker 00

  Wow. I'm gonna join Woman's Sports. That was a lot, bro.

• 1:19:37Joe Rogan?

  If every time you did this, and you left here, and you felt, um, like you couldn't remember things well, would you still do it?

• 1:19:45Speaker 00

  Do that?

• 1:19:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:47Joe Rogan?

  If you would lose like a little bit of memory, like where's my keys? Nothing serious, like you remember your name. You know, still remember your phone number, but you like, where's my keys?

• 1:19:56Speaker 00

  To do a little bit of a drug?

• 1:19:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just a little hit.

• 1:19:58Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:19:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:59Speaker 00

  I mean, one of my eyes just shut down, and yeah. And I like it. It's like, how far can we go? There's something about doing something. It's like, I think when you have addiction, you wanna do something that harms you, you know?

• 1:20:10Joe Rogan?

  Is that what it is?

• 1:20:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. You wanna fucking, cuz it's control. It's like I wanna control how I feel. So even if how I feel isn't great, the, there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like if I have control over it, then that's...

• 1:20:25Speaker 00

  It's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you, you know? Does that make any sense?

• 1:20:29Joe Rogan?

  So if you have control, like, so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to kind of mitigate that, you do a little bit of damage to yourself so you have control over the damage.

• 1:20:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel, so even if you feel damaged, you still did it to yourself. There's like, "I don't know, man, I'm doing the worst job."

• 1:20:51Joe Rogan?

  No, I know what you're saying. Um, self-destructive tendencies is a big part of addiction, you know?

• 1:20:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, self-destructive, it's like, I just, things are, feel so hectic right now, at least if I damage myself, then I'm the one doing it, I'm not just letting the world do it, right? There's, in, in the moment, you don't see that that doesn't have any value.

• 1:21:13Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:21:14Speaker 00

  Afterwards, you're like, "Shit, that was dumb," but in the moment, that feels like at least I'm taking control of the situation, right?

• 1:21:21Joe Rogan?

  I think sometimes you spend too much time alone.

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  Me personally?

• 1:21:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:27Speaker 00

  I would think that's probably true.

• 1:21:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think, uh, knowing you and being your friend for many years now, um, I think when you struggle is when you're by yourself too much.

• 1:21:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:36Joe Rogan?

  Because when you're with everybody else, everybody loves you, we all have fun together. I've said it before and I said it, I'll say it again, we need that, especially us, especially comedians, we need to be around people that are just like us, like, you don't have to worry, we could just talk shit and laugh and have fun, there's no like wondering where we stand with each other, it's always fun. You need a home base, man.

• 1:22:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:01Joe Rogan?

  You know, and you were, you were doing better when you were at the Comedy Store all the time, because you were around us all the time, we were all around each other, we were all, we knew there was a place we can go where we could find like-minded people and have a laugh, you know?

• 1:22:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:14Joe Rogan?

  On a regular basis, which is like, we're so fortunate, most people don't have a place where they can go, where they're guaranteed to see people that they love and you're gonna have a good time and just be silly with each other. And then you're watching all these sets, everybody's going on stage with that energy and so there's all this

• 1:22:31Speaker 00

  It's fun.

• 1:22:32Joe Rogan?

  killing in the air.

• 1:22:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, mothership's fun, man. Um, I, I would want to look for a place, I just haven't had the time.

• 1:22:39Joe Rogan?

  Let me ask you this.

• 1:22:40Speaker 00

  This year's been the craziest year, you know, it's just been a crazy year and so it's like,

• 1:22:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff.

• 1:22:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's been fun.

• 1:22:47Joe Rogan?

  Your podcast is killing it.

• 1:22:48Speaker 00

  It's been scary, you know, it's been fun, you know? I appreciate the couple of ti- you know, you've messaged me after a couple of episodes and said, "Hey, man, that was- I like that," or something. I really appreciate- I want to let you know that I really appreciate that.

• 1:22:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm very, very proud of you. I'd love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks. It's really good, man. It's very authen- it's a perfect podcast in that it's really you. You know how to be you. You're real authentic. Even if you're talking to Trump, you're being you. You're talking about doing cocaine with former President Trump, or now newly-elected President Trump. So, it's like...

• 1:23:23Speaker 00

  Well, I just want to have a voice, you know? I always just wanted to have a voice, ever. Or not even- I just wanted- I don't know.

• 1:23:28Joe Rogan?

  You want to be able to express yourself.

• 1:23:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:23:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:30Speaker 00

  I just wanted things to be fair, and I just want to express- I just like...

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:35Speaker 00

  There was always this feeling inside of me, like I don't have a- I can't speak up for myself, you know? And so, like, I think-

• 1:23:42Joe Rogan?

  I know what you're saying.

• 1:23:42Speaker 00

  And even if I'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak, it's like there's still like something that, you know, it means- it's like, I can't even explain it. But it's like, um, it's so- it's like, I don't know. It means something to me.

• 1:23:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think these kind of conversations are very good for you. Like, conversations that you're having, conversations that I'm having, I think they're good for you. You get to- you get a chance to communicate with people that are, you know, really interesting, unique people that have lived completely different lives than you. Like, I had Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to me. Fucking- I couldn't- I was like a kid in a candy store. It's like, it's so exciting to get this guy, this like, super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator, who could break down the fabric of the universe for you and what we know about it. I mean, like, when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone, like, for three hours?

• 1:24:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, man. Dude, I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus, right? And they perform, and they do musical acts.

• 1:24:48Speaker 00

  And bro, I'm not even joking to you. It was one of the most fascinating things I'd ever heard in my life.

• 1:24:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:24:53Speaker 00

  Cause her commitment to it. Imagine she got her CDL so she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive.

• 1:25:00Joe Rogan?

  What's a CDL?

• 1:25:01Speaker 00

  Commercial driver's license.

• 1:25:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:25:03Speaker 00

  And she goes around doing, uh, feline shows around the whole country. And she's been doing it for 15 years.

• 1:25:09Joe Rogan?

  Who do you think she voted for?

• 1:25:11Speaker 00

  That's a good question, I don't know.

• 1:25:14Speaker 00

  Whoever, hey, grab him by the pussy, probably that guy.

• 1:25:17Joe Rogan?

  Do you know that, uh, crazy cat ladies, that there's a reason for that? It's, uh, the same reason that like, it's a cat parasite, toxoplasmosis.

• 1:25:27Speaker 00

  So you're saying it's a, uh, it's a medical ailment?

• 1:25:30Joe Rogan?

  Makes you aggressive.

• 1:25:31Speaker 00

  Come on, man.

• 1:25:31Joe Rogan?

  No, it makes you aggressive. Yeah. I bet a lot, like, that's that term, cat lady, crazy cat lady, that's a real thing. That lady's got a parasite, she's got a brain parasite, toxoplasmosis.

• 1:25:42Speaker 00

  You can't tell them that.

• 1:25:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I bet I could test them. Get a cheek swab, hold that lady down, give me a cheek swab, I guarantee you that lady's got it.

• 1:25:51Speaker 00

  Bro, that lady, what do you, bro, I used to live with a dude, bro. I used to live with this dude, right? And I ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something and whatever, and I fucking cut a window into my closet, dude? And it was to the neighbor's apartment. I thought it went outside, I got kicked out.

• 1:26:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:26:07Speaker 00

  But before that, I lived with this dude and he would get really-

• 1:26:09Joe Rogan?

  Imagine you're that lady in the apartment next door and you hear a saw, huh, huh, huh, huh.

• 1:26:16Speaker 00

  Some dude's cut a hole into your fucking apartment. Yeah, man, I just...

• 1:26:22Joe Rogan?

  That's the crazy thing about apartments, right?

• 1:26:24Speaker 00

  It's the crazy thing about cocaine, that's what apartments have to do with it, bro. I've been up for fucking 42 hours on drugs.

• 1:26:33Joe Rogan?

  You wanna hear something crazy? Trump, at the day of the election, Dana White told me he'd been up for 72 hours.

• 1:26:38Speaker 00

  Unbelievable.

• 1:26:40Joe Rogan?

  I go, how's that possible? He goes, dude, he's a freak. It's so weird.

• 1:26:44Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, dude, I'll say some things, here's things that like, whatever you think about, uh, there's things that, uh, the guy is as resilient, no one could go through all that shit. When the Justice Department started to fuck him over, that's when a lot of people were like, you know what? The ju- the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system. And if they're fucking him over-

• 1:27:07Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:27:08Speaker 00

  And then he got shot at a couple of times, dude. He's, he's a quarter of 50 cent.

• 1:27:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:14Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying? He's like- So it's like, how, what else does it, you know, at a certain point, you're just like, I gotta bet on this dog.

• 1:27:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:23Speaker 00

  You know, even if it's like, you don't even like it. It's like, this motherfucker. This dude, he, you gotta bet on that dog, and if not, it's just bizarre, you know?

• 1:27:35Joe Rogan?

  I mean, the guy gets up and says, "Fight, fight, fight," after he got shot in the ear. He's not freaking out, he's like, "Oh my god, I got shot, get me out of here, they're shooting." He looked, he goes, "No, no, stop, stop, fight."

• 1:27:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Fight, fight.

• 1:27:47Speaker 00

  Dude, I stubbed my toe, I called my assistant a faggot, you know?

• 1:27:52Speaker 00

  So, yeah, we, there's something special about that guy, you know?

• 1:27:57Joe Rogan?

  And if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him, why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason? Right? If you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating, Obama was repeating it in one of his speeches. "He said about those white supremacists, they're very fine men on both sides." That's not true.

• 1:28:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:17Joe Rogan?

  It's not true.

• 1:28:18Speaker 00

  Well, why, I don't understand why le- le- left-leaning media, which is mostly Jewish, are calling people white supremacists, dude.

• 1:28:25Joe Rogan?

  Jewish, did you say that?

• 1:28:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just don't understand.

• 1:28:28Joe Rogan?

  Left-wing media is mostly Jewish?

• 1:28:30Speaker 00

  I mean, according to my Jewish friends, it is, you know?

• 1:28:36Speaker 00

  But why do they hate white guys?

• 1:28:38Joe Rogan?

  It's just woke things, man, it's just virtue woke bullshit. It's like, the, this is what it is. Well, because the, the hierarchies is, have experienced a polar shift. Okay, so here's what it is. If you go back to the 1960s, the kind of racism that people faced, like before the race riots and all, all that, was horrific, because it's just 100 years removed from slavery ending, and the echoes of that.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  Oh, it's still in our genes.

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  Yes, but the echoes of that were much more, much more prevalent then. And so, black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against. People recognize that that's wrong, young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong, they recognize the sins of the past, and then they over-correct. And by over correcting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized. So you give people, like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed. So the oppressed, the previously oppressed now have a social hierarchy, a sta- they're a higher level. If you're a black, trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting.

• 1:29:50Joe Rogan?

  You know, let the black, trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture.

• 1:29:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:29:55Joe Rogan?

  And if you are a white male who's heterosexual, you have to be non-binary. Cause otherwise you can't get in. You gotta, you gotta be a they/them. Because then now, okay, now you're marginalized. Like all you have to do is like change your approach. That's the, the lowest level of entry is non-binary, straight man. You just say you're non-binary and they're like, yeah, you just say, I just don't feel like a man or a woman. Meanwhile, you fuck chicks. You're a, you know what you're doing, you little chameleon.

• 1:30:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're just being a little secret care bear or whatever.

• 1:30:22Joe Rogan?

  You're sneaking around, but there's hierarchies. And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed. Gay people weren't even allowed, even in 2013, up to then. Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and a woman. So now, kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do. Unless we're paying attention, as we get older, we pay more attention to what's going on before.

• 1:31:01Joe Rogan?

  But now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been. How they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people. So they, they wanna like re-correct things.

• 1:31:14Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, if I was ever in office dude, native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately dude.

• 1:31:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, they already have casinos.

• 1:31:20Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 1:31:21Joe Rogan?

  They already have casinos.

• 1:31:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, but did they want casinos? I wanted, I wanted them to have back whatever they want. They're getting it back, they're getting the rivers back, they're getting the lakes back.

• 1:31:29Joe Rogan?

  They were taking it from each other too dude.

• 1:31:30Speaker 00

  No, I agree, everybody acts like Native Americans were like, everybody's just like whistling and just shaking hands, but they were fighting.

• 1:31:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 100%, but you would have to figure out like who owned it like at that time.

• 1:31:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:31:42Joe Rogan?

  And give it back to them and then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Cause if you wanna go back to the old ways, that's the old ways. You wanna go back to when the Comanche ran Texas, like, okay, good luck, but you know what the Comanches favorite thing was doing? Raiding other tribes. They loved that.

• 1:31:58Speaker 00

  They were gang bangers.

• 1:31:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they were gang bangers. They would show up in other tribes and slaughter people. And that, they wouldn't just slaughter people, they would torture them, they would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire. Nobody ever surrendered, ever, because they knew that there was no leniency, you're gonna be tortured and killed.

• 1:32:16Speaker 00

  Oh, so you had to fight to the death?

• 1:32:17Joe Rogan?

  100%, fight to the death.

• 1:32:19Speaker 00

  Imagine not being able to surrender because you have no choice but to fight to the death, that's wild.

• 1:32:23Joe Rogan?

  The concept of surrender was completely alien to Native Americans.

• 1:32:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:28Joe Rogan?

  They fought to the fucking death and they fought each other to the death. And there was battles between all of them and they, they conquered and they made alliances and you know, especially Little Big Horn, they all got together and fucked up Custer. But all, there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different, and you'd have to go back to when.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  Right, you're like when?

• 1:32:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, you got it because you killed all these people, let's go back to the Algonquins, let's give it to the fucking Apaches, let's get like, you'd have to figure it out, man, like this was a, this was a gigantic.

• 1:32:57Speaker 00

  To get the truth.

• 1:32:58Joe Rogan?

  This was really like, in some ways, other than the violence, it was like a utopian existence. It was, these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, li- used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, following them around, they didn't even make art, dude. The, the Comanche didn't make art, they didn't make anything.

• 1:33:21Speaker 00

  Why, they were just warriors?

• 1:33:22Joe Rogan?

  Just warriors eating meat, all they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else.

• 1:33:27Speaker 00

  So if you so so is it weird that we feel bad about that like is that a trap? Like that's what I'm wondering. Does that make does that question make sense?

• 1:33:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, that was the way they lived. You know, I mean, is that better than drone bombs in Yemen? You know, when we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse, is it better? Is that better? No, the whole thing is fucked. It's fucked that Gaza's going on. It's fucked that they're using these these poor Ukrainians like fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad. But the crazy that was going on back then was a one on one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy. It was like there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these, you're gonna go kill them and take that thing from them. And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter everyone.

• 1:34:17Speaker 00

  Oh, yes, sneak them.

• 1:34:18Joe Rogan?

  And they did that to each other. They did that to each other. So it was a horrific way of existing.

• 1:34:24Speaker 00

  Because sometimes there's this there's this vision that you um romanticize that culture, right? I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don't know about, right?

• 1:34:32Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:34:33Speaker 00

  Because it just seems like something like, oh, that's romantic or something, you know?

• 1:34:38Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this was a culture of warriors.

• 1:34:40Speaker 00

  It was fucking hide and go seek for real.

• 1:34:42Joe Rogan?

  It was a culture of warriors. Like, this whole country was filled with nomadic warriors. Yeah.

• 1:34:49Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:34:50Joe Rogan?

  And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox. That's what's the crazy.

• 1:34:53Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:34:53Joe Rogan?

  Most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the Europeans.

• 1:34:58Speaker 00

  How game must that have felt, dude? You're a fucking warrior, right? Suddenly, you get a fucking...

• 1:35:04Joe Rogan?

  Some dude sneezes on you at the depot. You go to the trading depot to drop off some fucking skins. Some dude sneezes on you and that's a rap.

• 1:35:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're like, you've been training all day, dude. And some guy just fucking doesn't wash his feet for half an afternoon.

• 1:35:21Joe Rogan?

  Or just came here off a boat, stinky bitch, was breathing shit shit air and drinking shit water. You know, like, can you imagine the hygiene on those boats?

• 1:35:32Speaker 00

  Oh, Columbus's ship, that was like the first Burning Man, dude. That place was a dump, dude. I heard the pent that didn't even have any chicks on it, dude.

• 1:35:41Joe Rogan?

  It's like, there's an example. Columbus is an example.

• 1:35:43Speaker 00

  Could you have done it?

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  I mean, probably if you lived back then, that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored. But you're in the, it's early morning, couple guys show up. You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean. If you're a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it, and you just eat beef jerky for three months. This episode is brought to you by Simply Safe. With the excitement of the holidays, it's easy to forget the rate for burglaries goes up this time of the year. So let's talk about the solution, Simply Safe. They provide top-notch security, protect your home, your family, even your dog. I get how important it is to feel like your pets are safe at home alone, especially as you get roped into all the holiday madness.

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• 1:37:55Joe Rogan?

  J R E. That's promo code J R E. Or go to lifelock.com slash J R E for thirty percent off. Terms apply. And you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side is there's gold everywhere? They didn't even know where they were. Yeah. But if you read the accounts, there was a priest that traveled with them, some sort of religious man that traveled with them. Oh, yeah. Like a detailed diary of their, the horrific things that Columbus's men did. They bashed babies on the rocks. They, yeah, yeah, yeah. They told certain men that they had to give, they had to give them their weight in gold. And if they did, they would chop dudes' arms off in front of everybody. They enslaved these people and used them for their gold. Cause these people had no use for gold. They didn't know how valuable gold was. When they got to the Americas?

• 1:38:40Joe Rogan?

  Exactly, exactly. Yeah. I mean, they just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude. There's horrific depictions of what Columbus's people did. We romanticize, I romanticize nature so much and it's really vulgar, isn't it? Well, it's just humans have always done this to each other. And for all of human history, the strong groups of men with weapons invade people that aren't prepared. And they take all their stuff and they conquer them. I mean, it's always happened. It's, it's the, the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there's a bunch of common things. There's um, an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities.

• 1:39:21Joe Rogan?

  There's machines, there's the, all these different things improve. But along the way, the consistent thing is war. It's constantly happening from the beginning of time, as early as we know, tribes were battling other tribes. And back then, when there wasn't that many people, wasn't that many resources and you were competing to see whose genes spread. It's just natural. He developed tools and weapons and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA. So here we are in twenty twenty four with iPhone sixteen s and Starlink. And we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved. Right. And that's the scariest thing about being alive today is that we're so advanced. We're so.

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  Much more civilized than at any other point in human history and yet same amount of people if not more are dying senselessly all the time.

• 1:40:13Speaker 00

  Right, like we're civilized on the outside, but there's a part of us that is will always be uncivilized.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, the the part of it is war, right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. You know, there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous.

• 1:40:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:40:25Joe Rogan?

  There the there the some, you know, there's places of the world where you can't go with without getting robbed or shot.

• 1:40:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, Memphis, first of all.

• 1:40:34Joe Rogan?

  Is Memphis that bad?

• 1:40:35Speaker 00

  Memphis is bad, dude.

• 1:40:37Joe Rogan?

  It's where Elvis came from.

• 1:40:38Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 1:40:39Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that where Elvis came from?

• 1:40:40Speaker 00

  And he left.

• 1:40:43Joe Rogan?

  Where's Graceland?

• 1:40:44Speaker 00

  Actually, Grace, you know what's crazy about Graceland, dude? It's in Memphis. And it's cool. You go out, they let you in the backyard after the smoke and Elvis's grave is right there.

• 1:40:54Joe Rogan?

  You could smoke right in front of Elvis's grave?

• 1:40:56Speaker 00

  Smoke seventeen centimeters from Elvis's grave or eighty centimeters.

• 1:40:59Joe Rogan?

  That movie, that Elvis movie was so good.

• 1:41:02Speaker 00

  Which one? Uh, the one with his girlfriend?

• 1:41:03Joe Rogan?

  Where Tom Hanks plays the Colonel? Did you see that one?

• 1:41:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:41:07Joe Rogan?

  With that dude, what is his name? Austin?

• 1:41:09Speaker 00

  Colonel.

• 1:41:10Joe Rogan?

  What's the fellow's name that played Elvis? Austin Butler is really good, man. He fucking, he nailed it. He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis. What a crazy story.

• 1:41:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:22Joe Rogan?

  Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous.

• 1:41:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:30Joe Rogan?

  Like, there was no one that famous before Elvis.

• 1:41:31Speaker 00

  No, there wasn't. Well, yeah, there was. Jesus, probably. Who else?

• 1:41:35Joe Rogan?

  Maybe Jesus.

• 1:41:36Speaker 00

  Constantine?

• 1:41:37Joe Rogan?

  Jesus got his rep, like, he got his really appreciation after he was gone. Yeah, you know, sort of like Kurt Cobain.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, kind of. That's a good point, huh?

• 1:41:48Joe Rogan?

  I mean, people loved Kurt Cobain while he was alive, but I think they really appreciated him after he was dead. There's certain, there's certain guys.

• 1:41:56Speaker 00

  What do you think you, what, what do you, um?

• 1:42:01Speaker 00

  What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do when you die, dude?

• 1:42:04Joe Rogan?

  I'm not doing shit, I'll be dead.

• 1:42:05Speaker 00

  Alright, we'll see about that, huh?

• 1:42:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, we'll see about that, that's what's interesting. Imagine if you really do go to heaven and Saint Peter really is there with a book, you're like, this is crazy.

• 1:42:14Speaker 00

  First thing you're gonna think is, this dude's gay as fuck, I think, dude.

• 1:42:17Joe Rogan?

  With that robe?

• 1:42:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude, you roll up? Some dude has a checklist or whatever, it's like, trying to get in a hide or whatever?

• 1:42:23Joe Rogan?

  You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on? Robes are stupid, I never wanna wear a robe.

• 1:42:30Speaker 00

  Have you ever wore a robe?

• 1:42:31Joe Rogan?

  If I have to go to like a massage place, you gotta wear a robe before you take the robe off, I'm like, okay. You're gonna see me in my underwear in five minutes, so why don't we just do it now?

• 1:42:40Speaker 00

  It's flirting.

• 1:42:42Joe Rogan?

  It's lingerie.

• 1:42:43Speaker 00

  A robe, yeah, dude. A robe is just male lingerie.

• 1:42:47Joe Rogan?

  Why would God be wearing a robe with a rope tie? Bro, don't you know about pants?

• 1:42:51Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:42:52Joe Rogan?

  You get yourself a pair of Origin stretchy jeans, they're great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants, God?

• 1:43:01Speaker 00

  Why are you wearing a robe, man? You think God's got that thang on him or what, what do you think?

• 1:43:06Joe Rogan?

  He probably's got a hog.

• 1:43:07Speaker 00

  You think?

• 1:43:07Joe Rogan?

  He created the universe, yeah, oh my God.

• 1:43:10Speaker 00

  But it's too big?

• 1:43:11Joe Rogan?

  I bet you would want it, I bet you would want it, if you saw it, you'd want it.

• 1:43:15Speaker 00

  I wouldn't tell, I wouldn't go up to it.

• 1:43:16Joe Rogan?

  Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You're like, you're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God.

• 1:43:21Speaker 00

  Hey, look, I'll tell you this, I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude.

• 1:43:26Joe Rogan?

  If God's real, he made gay people. Anybody who thinks gay's a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people. Let me be real clear about this, I think there's some people that are open-minded and say, I'll try being gay for a while. It's not me, maybe it's you. Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it, and he panicked at the last minute and ran away, yeah.

• 1:43:45Speaker 00

  I wouldn't do it, you have to stay up late to do it, I feel like, I feel like it's like a late night activity.

• 1:43:49Joe Rogan?

  A lot of gay stuff doesn't happen at nine in the morning.

• 1:43:51Speaker 00

  Till past one.

• 1:43:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:52Speaker 00

  Past 1 a.m., I like to get to bed at a decent hour.

• 1:43:55Joe Rogan?

  My point is, God made gay people.

• 1:43:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  So it's clear, if God made everything, he made people that are gay. The craziest religious answer, like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer. He said, he thinks you should ignore, don't do it because it's a sin, just like you wanna murder people, but you don't murder them. Like, bro, how much do you wanna murder people? It's like, cause gay people wanna fuck every day.

• 1:44:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:17Joe Rogan?

  Like, you know, who wants to, if you wanna murder people every day, check yourself in. That's, that's a crazy comparison. Like, the gay thing is literally your sexual expression. Like, you're attracted to other guys. So like, if you're not attracted to other guys, you think, are you sure God wrote that down? Like, are you 100% positive that God really thinks that's a bad idea? But yet, he made people that have that urge.

• 1:44:41Speaker 00

  Right. It wouldn't be, it wouldn't be fair if he did that. It wouldn't be right.

• 1:44:45Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:44:45Speaker 00

  I think the craziest thing is, I think if you, the first gay dude must have been like, "What's going on?", you know? Like, he's sitting there with his wife or whatever, and his buddy comes over to like, you know, to just look around or whatever, because they didn't have that much stuff back then. And his buddy comes over just to like, look around or tell him about like, an animal he saw or something, and he just starts thinking, "Man, I'm gonna fuckin'..."

• 1:45:05Joe Rogan?

  I bet.

• 1:45:06Speaker 00

  "I'm gonna get this little rabbit."

• 1:45:08Joe Rogan?

  I bet it existed from the jump.

• 1:45:09Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:45:10Joe Rogan?

  Little rabbit. Little rabbit?

• 1:45:11Speaker 00

  What do you think as a gay dude?

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  Think, "Get that little rabbit"? That's what you think?

• 1:45:15Speaker 00

  "Get that little fuckin' booty rabbit."

• 1:45:18Joe Rogan?

  Booty rabbit? I think gay guys have been here from the very beginning.

• 1:45:22Speaker 00

  I'mma snort that little fuckin'...

• 1:45:23Joe Rogan?

  You know why? Because I think human beings...

• 1:45:26Speaker 00

  That little dirt oyster.

• 1:45:28Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ!

• 1:45:29Speaker 00

  I'm just saying, bruh. What do you think if you're, the, if the, the thoughts have to come into your head? Something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts. I don't think it starts in the DNA.

• 1:45:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was, uh, I think, see if you can find this. I think it was University of Rome. They, uh, proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous. And that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons.

• 1:46:01Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:46:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. So the idea is that these women are just so, they're so dick hungry, that it literally passes on through their genes.

• 1:46:09Speaker 00

  Where was it? Was it in Rhode, it wasn't in Rhode Island, was it?

• 1:46:12Joe Rogan?

  No, but that's, could, that could happen in Rhode Island. Uh, Providence would be a good place for that.

• 1:46:16Speaker 00

  That's, isn't there like, a gay Mecca that's kinda there?

• 1:46:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um... Provincetown, I think.

• 1:46:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, Jeff, uh, what's his name, used to party there. Jeff, uh, from this comedy store.

• 1:46:27Joe Rogan?

  I think Provincetown is Massachusetts. But there's, I know what you're talking about. There's a thing in Rhode Island, then there's Fire Island in New York. But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous, they wanted a bunch of different sexual partners.

• 1:46:42Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:46:42Joe Rogan?

  That this same, that it might be actually a gene thing.

• 1:46:45Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 1:46:46Joe Rogan?

  See, the gene thing is weird, man, because Brett Weinstein explained this to me. He said, "Do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot?" And I said, "No." Like, "What's the difference?" He was like, "A beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have a long-term relationship and raise children with."

• 1:47:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:02Joe Rogan?

  And then a hot woman, like, woman who's wearing like very skimpy clothes and very, like, looks like she's re- like, really made up, very... The idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without having any consequences. So the, this person-

• 1:47:21Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:47:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes, like, as primates.

• 1:47:26Speaker 00

  Just spray and stray kinda thing. Like Monsanto or whatever.

• 1:47:30Speaker 02

  Fertility, the, the amount of children they have, I think, or something.

• 1:47:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I thought it was, um, I thought it was the promiscuous women. I think-

• 1:47:38Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll show you the title.

• 1:47:39Joe Rogan?

  Does it say that there?

• 1:47:40Speaker 02

  Says that-

• 1:47:41Joe Rogan?

  I hope that, I wonder if this is their interpretation. This is, uh, yeah, that's around the time. "Gay genes survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children." Right, but guess what? If you have more kids, it means you like dick. I, I think they were talking about promiscuity, though. Um, "However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and the mothers, their mothers and maternal aunts, who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men."

• 1:48:11Speaker 00

  I think we need more gay men in some of these areas.

• 1:48:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, hold on a second. Doesn't that make sense, though? Um, that would make sense, like, in terms of, like, natural selection. Because if you're someone who's, like, over having kids, you have too many kids. You have, like, ten children.

• 1:48:25Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 1:48:26Joe Rogan?

  Uh, I would see how nature'd be like, "You know what? We don't need to spread these genes as much. Let's make a couple of these gay."

• 1:48:34Speaker 00

  Right, nature's like, let's even things out, right?

• 1:48:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, that would make sense.

• 1:48:38Speaker 00

  Nature wants people to be...

• 1:48:40Joe Rogan?

  Balance.

• 1:48:41Speaker 00

  Yes, nature wants balance.

• 1:48:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and if someone has ten kids and everybody else has ten kids, that could get out of hand real quick. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids, nature would be like, you know what? Let me do this. What was that, where was that study done from?

• 1:48:55Joe Rogan?

  University of Rome?

• 1:48:57Speaker 02

  University of Padova in Italy.

• 1:48:59Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:49:00Speaker 00

  And just as there's people that's gay, there's people that are non-sexual at all, really.

• 1:49:03Joe Rogan?

  100%, which is, stay out of the fight. You don't belong in the 2A2+AI.

• 1:49:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  Whatever that is. So what is it? It's QBD, what is it?

• 1:49:15Speaker 00

  LGBT?

• 1:49:15Joe Rogan?

  LGBTQ2AI+ A is asexual. Stay out of it.

• 1:49:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:23Joe Rogan?

  Stay out of it, this is not your fight.

• 1:49:25Speaker 00

  Yeah, they got it. Some people...

• 1:49:28Joe Rogan?

  It's not your fight.

• 1:49:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're just like...

• 1:49:31Joe Rogan?

  You don't even have sex with anybody.

• 1:49:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, what if you're just jerking off at your house? Are you in that, or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people?

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's lonely sexual.

• 1:49:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:40Joe Rogan?

  An L. I think they're gonna put robots in there.

• 1:49:44Speaker 00

  You see that, you see that robot cutting hay the other day?

• 1:49:47Joe Rogan?

  I did not.

• 1:49:48Speaker 00

  Pull that up if you don't mind, Jamie.

• 1:49:49Joe Rogan?

  With a scythe, like the Reaper? Like a Reaper?

• 1:49:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was a little bit of like a, not a slave bot or whatever.

• 1:49:56Joe Rogan?

  We were talking about robot bodyguards, that in the future you'll have robot bodyguards, you can go anywhere you want.

• 1:50:02Speaker 00

  That'd be cool, but then like the second you start, you gotta run, they're gonna be like, alright. And then they'll run, it's gonna take half a second, half a second kills everything.

• 1:50:09Joe Rogan?

  I bet they just pick you up and they run with you.

• 1:50:11Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:50:12Joe Rogan?

  They just carry you.

• 1:50:14Speaker 00

  There we go, right here.

• 1:50:15Joe Rogan?

  This is not real?

• 1:50:15Speaker 00

  Oh, that's not real?

• 1:50:16Speaker 02

  It's not real.

• 1:50:17Joe Rogan?

  How do you... Jamie, you're a party pooper.

• 1:50:19Speaker 02

  It's like, how it's moving.

• 1:50:20Joe Rogan?

  Super real.

• 1:50:21Speaker 00

  You see that pod where they're killing...

• 1:50:22Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, that is so real.

• 1:50:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's real. Go back.

• 1:50:25Joe Rogan?

  100% that's coming, okay?

• 1:50:27Speaker 02

  Sure, but yeah.

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs that are gonna be taken by, like, unskilled labor jobs are all gonna be robots, so...

• 1:50:38Speaker 00

  But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that? Like, at a certain point, should an AI, if it doesn't help us be human, at a certain point we should stop it? That's how I feel like.

• 1:50:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

• 1:50:49Speaker 00

  But you feel like we're there now?

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they should have stopped it a long time ago. If you want humans to survive, should have stopped it a long time ago.

• 1:50:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:56Joe Rogan?

  If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay? It's that doesn't make sense because you're making something way better. You're you're one or a hundred percent gonna make something and you're gonna give it autonomy and you're gonna give it sentience. And it's gonna be infinitely smarter than us. It's not gonna be restricted by any biological needs. It's not gonna be greedy. It's not gonna be mean. It's not gonna be malicious. But it might decide we're useless. They might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean and fucking up the fucking rivers and.

• 1:51:26Speaker 00

  It's risky.

• 1:51:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Nuclear waste. It's gonna be like, what are you doing, morons? Why are you idiots? Cracking atoms. Stay out of that.

• 1:51:35Speaker 00

  Like you don't even know what you're doing.

• 1:51:37Joe Rogan?

  Here's here's free porn and a fucking VR mask. You give you free food.

• 1:51:43Speaker 00

  Have a blast, yeah.

• 1:51:44Joe Rogan?

  Let you stop breeding. Well, the population will just drop off a cliff.

• 1:51:48Speaker 00

  They just, I saw, um. They, um.

• 1:51:54Speaker 00

  What were we talking about a second ago?

• 1:51:56Joe Rogan?

  Robots.

• 1:51:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, they're killing people at the airport.

• 1:52:00Joe Rogan?

  You want another hit of this?

• 1:52:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'll take another one, man. I need another sodi or something. You got anything on you in here?

• 1:52:05Joe Rogan?

  We got coffee. You want some coffee?

• 1:52:06Speaker 00

  Take another Kill Cliff if you got one.

• 1:52:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, Jamie, go get you one. Want some coffee?

• 1:52:10Speaker 00

  You mind? Is that coffee?

• 1:52:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'll try some.

• 1:52:13Joe Rogan?

  It's a clean mug.

• 1:52:14Speaker 00

  It is. It's warm coffee, eh?

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  Just came out of the dishwasher.

• 1:52:17Speaker 00

  Oh, hell, yeah. It's like the Civil War.

• 1:52:18Joe Rogan?

  Why are you pouring it with one hand trapped underneath that arm? You're freaking me out.

• 1:52:23Speaker 00

  Challenging myself, dude.

• 1:52:25Joe Rogan?

  That is wrist ability. That was all wrist. You didn't move your arm at all, dude. You were all wrist on that jam. That's hard to do, man.

• 1:52:32Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 1:52:33Joe Rogan?

  That's the wrist is the weakest link. You ever do like wrist curls? I'm shocked at how weak bitch ass my wrists are.

• 1:52:39Speaker 00

  Oh, it's amazing. Well, it's amazing whenever you take like in any jujitsu classes, how the first thing you start to learn is just control the wrist. It's crazy. Changes everything.

• 1:52:48Joe Rogan?

  Especially guys with big hands. If you could grab like guy with a basketball player size hands. There's this dude named Semi Shilt. He used to fight in the UFC.

• 1:52:56Speaker 00

  Semi?

• 1:52:57Joe Rogan?

  Semi Shilt. He was seven feet tall.

• 1:52:59Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 1:52:59Joe Rogan?

  And the problem with Semi is if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrists. You can't get your hands free. Like, this motherfucker. Cause he had these fucking baseball mitts for hands. He just wrapped his hands around you. That's Semi Shilt.

• 1:53:12Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:53:13Joe Rogan?

  He was a K1 Grand Prix winner.

• 1:53:15Speaker 00

  Oh, my God. He looks like Zach Bryan a little.

• 1:53:17Joe Rogan?

  Seven foot tall. He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA too. Um, wasn't, wasn't a good grappler, unfortunately. That was kind of his downfall, but had a nasty front kick to the body. Yeah, he fought Peter Ertz. He fought everybody, man. Sammy was good. And he was real tall and real good at like utilizing that height.

• 1:53:35Speaker 00

  Wow. It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA because you'd, there'd be more of you to be attacked by.

• 1:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Sort of, but you're way further away. You know, like the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can't strike you.

• 1:53:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:48Joe Rogan?

  Like a guy built, like John Jones has the perfect fighter's frame. Cause he's still very strong. He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean. So he's not relatively bunk bulky compared to his weight because he's long and stretched out.

• 1:54:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:02Joe Rogan?

  So he can hit you from here. And you can only hit him from here. This dis- this amount of distance is so huge. If you have a distance like that much, which you, where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him, you have to cross that. And you're so vulnerable while crossing that. And if a guy's a good counter striker and he's active and he's long, they're so, so hard to get in on. So a guy like John, that, that's always going to be an advantage. And then with John, if you do get in on him, that's no picnic because he's an elite grappler. So he's going to strangle you. He's going to throw you to the ground. So like you are, you're fucked. You're in this fuck zone. On the outside, he's kicking the shit out of your knees. John's on the nastiest of like side kicking people's knees out. Yeah.

• 1:54:46Speaker 00

  Most dangerous guy.

• 1:54:48Joe Rogan?

  Very dangerous.

• 1:54:49Speaker 00

  People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter. Do, is that the truth, do you think, or is that just a myth?

• 1:54:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, Dana White says he's the greatest of all time.

• 1:54:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:54:56Joe Rogan?

  Which a lot of people say.

• 1:54:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:57Joe Rogan?

  I don't, I've, I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means, but if you want to.

• 1:55:03Speaker 00

  That's a good question.

• 1:55:03Joe Rogan?

  If you want to say like who dominated his division longer than anybody, who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division? And who never lost, that's John Jones. The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight. It was Dominic Reyes was coming up. He was in his prime. It was a really good fight, a really close fight. But John won what I think was a split decision. And then he had a split decision with Tiago Silva, uh, Tiago Santos. But Tiago Santos, he, he blew out both of Tiago's knees. Tiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight.

• 1:55:38Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:55:38Joe Rogan?

  I think that was a split decision.

• 1:55:40Speaker 00

  That's dangerous.

• 1:55:41Joe Rogan?

  But the bottom line is John won all those fights. And then, you know. He wins the heavyweight title too. It's it's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time.

• 1:55:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:50Joe Rogan?

  I I I say, you know, if you had to only pick one, I would pick John. But I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time. I always say Mighty Mouse. Because Mighty Mouse would do things where you're like, what the fuck did he just do? He, when he fought Ray Borg, he tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down.

• 1:56:15Speaker 00

  Oh, God.

• 1:56:15Joe Rogan?

  Do you ever see that?

• 1:56:16Speaker 00

  No, I've never seen that.

• 1:56:17Joe Rogan?

  It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air.

• 1:56:26Speaker 00

  Fuck.

• 1:56:27Joe Rogan?

  It's so fast. Like, when it turned, to me, it's like, when I just think, watch this, throws him, boom.

• 1:56:33Speaker 00

  Oh!

• 1:56:34Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 1:56:34Speaker 00

  Wow, dude.

• 1:56:35Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 1:56:36Speaker 00

  Bro, if that dude ain't good at gift wrapping, you got the wrong guy, bro.

• 1:56:40Joe Rogan?

  You know how crazy that is? What, look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air, he switches to an arm bar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That's like a stunt. That's like a stunt move. If you saw that in a movie, you'd be like, shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that.

• 1:56:55Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:56:56Joe Rogan?

  He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight.

• 1:57:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's crazy how many of those guys would be like, or like Hollywood stunt man, you know?

• 1:57:04Joe Rogan?

  And then you gotta, you also gotta, like, if you just look on record, this is where it gets crazy. If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions, you kinda have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time. Which is so crazy. He's one of only three two-division champions, right? He, is how many, how many have been two, you have Connor, you have DC, you have Alex. I think that's it.

• 1:57:32Speaker 00

  Didn't to per, uh, no.

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  No. I think that's it. Amanda Nunes, that doesn't really count because 45, it does count, but 45 is kind of a nonexistent weight class. It kind of doesn't exist.

• 1:57:46Speaker 00

  He's a hunter, that guy.

• 1:57:47Joe Rogan?

  She was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It's, it's real, but like 45 is the most, 145 for women is the most shallow division in MMA. So yes, you would say Amanda too. So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that. And he achieved it in record time. He's knocked out so many fucking champions. Knocked out Jamal Hill, not beat the shit out of Yuri Prochazka, knocked him out in the second fight.

• 1:58:10Speaker 00

  That was crazy.

• 1:58:11Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 1:58:11Speaker 00

  Hunted him.

• 1:58:12Joe Rogan?

  Bro, bro.

• 1:58:14Speaker 00

  That guy's unbelievable, watching him.

• 1:58:15Joe Rogan?

  He's a fucking monster, dude. He's a monster. He's a force. What he did to Khalil Roundtree was a clinic.

• 1:58:22Speaker 00

  Khalil's amazing, too.

• 1:58:23Joe Rogan?

  He's amazing. To do that to a guy like Khalil, like that was a clinic in like elite, world-class MMA.

• 1:58:29Speaker 00

  And at first, the first two rounds, you're like, what is this like? What's going on? Khalil's in it, they're both in it. But then you start to see that, um, Pereira's hunting, it's like this hunting.

• 1:58:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the pressure never ends.

• 1:58:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, and you're like, oh my god. It's like literally watching one of those snake, like a snake when they're just kind of like, like, did you see that snake that ate that deer? It was like a 77-pound deer or whatever?

• 1:58:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I did see that.

• 1:58:51Speaker 00

  You did?

• 1:58:51Joe Rogan?

  Of course. I see all that shit.

• 1:58:53Speaker 00

  Shit's crazy, dude. Bring that up, bring that up, that big dog, man.

• 1:58:57Joe Rogan?

  I'm glad he says snake because that's kind of how Pereira moves. He moves like a snake, like he pulls back and then he strikes forward, he pulls back. He's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming in right behind him.

• 1:59:09Speaker 00

  And he operates at his own speed. He's almost like Alvin Kamara is a football player that does that. He operates at his, it's a speed you've never seen. It looks normal, but it's different.

• 1:59:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, it varies a lot, too. Like, sometimes he moves fast and sometimes he moves slow. It's very hypnotic.

• 1:59:25Speaker 00

  Yes, it's hypnotic.

• 1:59:26Joe Rogan?

  It's also unique. He's got a unique frame, so he kind of looks, he moves different on design. Like, he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks, so you don't see him coming till it's too late.

• 1:59:37Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:59:38Joe Rogan?

  So he's standing in front of you and when he kicks, there's no movement of his shoulders. He's just throwing these kicks out and they land. And they're not as hard as if he put his whole Body into it, but it's hard enough where you're like, oh no. And you get hit with a couple of those, three, four, five of those. All of a sudden, you're like, I can't walk anymore. And now he's hunting you and he's hunting you. See, I would put him already in the conver- I don't think he's better than Jon Jones, greatest of all time, but I I already put him in the conversation as a potential greatest of all time nominee. I think he's, he's right there.

• 2:00:10Speaker 00

  He's the male Katniss Everdeen dude.

• 2:00:12Joe Rogan?

  He's only been in MMA for a few years.

• 2:00:14Speaker 00

  He's a hunter.

• 2:00:14Joe Rogan?

  And he's only been in the UFC for a few years.

• 2:00:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:17Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. Couple of MMA fights other than the UFC and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division, just smashing everyone to oblivion. So then you got Khabib undefeated.

• 2:00:29Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. So many greats.

• 2:00:31Joe Rogan?

  You know, George Saint Pierre, two, oh, George Saint Pierre, another two division champion. That's right. George won at 85 as well. That's, I almost forgot George. Yeah. So George, one of the greatest of all times for sure. You put him in that conversation.

• 2:00:43Speaker 00

  I got to see him in, in Canada.

• 2:00:46Joe Rogan?

  Anderson in his prime, Anderson is prime is in that conversation. You gotta look at them like in their.

• 2:00:51Speaker 00

  In the moment.

• 2:00:52Joe Rogan?

  Whenever there's a moment, a time period of like this amount of years to that amount of years. Well, it's all agree that this is the prime. Forget about when they should have retired. Let that go. Just talk about them when they're at their best. Who is the best?

• 2:01:05Speaker 00

  That's a good point.

• 2:01:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:07Speaker 00

  Because everybody that's doing great, you want to stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn't probably.

• 2:01:11Joe Rogan?

  But you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out because it's just a foolish endeavor. They shouldn't have been fighting a killer at 20, at 42 years old, you know, natural.

• 2:01:22Speaker 00

  And it's timing too.

• 2:01:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's, but there's just a lot. When fighters fight late into their career, you gotta kind of, you gotta kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression. I feel like their prime is their ultimate. It's everything they could do. They did everything right. They crossed every T. They measured all their food. They fucking did the cryo chamber and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills. And they were going over moves their coaches. They had a battle plan. Everything. So those guys, you can only do that for so long. There's that's like a nine year at at the best. When you're at the, so you gotta look like in that when like Fedor in Pride.

• 2:02:08Joe Rogan?

  You gotta look in that window. Don't look at Fedor now and you know, guys are knocking him out and it's just not the same. He's an old guy. He's been beaten up a bunch of times. Still a bad motherfucker, but it's not, not that dude who was running Pride in the early 2000s.

• 2:02:23Speaker 00

  Right. It's not fair.

• 2:02:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You gotta look at them when they're in BJ Penn at his best.

• 2:02:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:02:28Joe Rogan?

  BJ Penn for a few years, I say is as good as anybody's.

• 2:02:30Speaker 00

  I know you talk about him a lot. I've heard you speak about him a lot.

• 2:02:32Joe Rogan?

  Dude, you just had a, when he was in his prime, it was just a matter of was BJ gonna get him in the first round? Was he gonna get him in the second round? BJ was hyper aggressive and just unbelievably talented.

• 2:02:45Speaker 00

  I wasn't watching back then.

• 2:02:46Joe Rogan?

  And dexterity dude. He had crazy dexterity.

• 2:02:49Speaker 00

  He's the governor of Maui, isn't he?

• 2:02:51Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. He was running for the governor of Hawaii.

• 2:02:53Speaker 00

  Did he win?

• 2:02:54Joe Rogan?

  No, he didn't win.

• 2:02:55Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:02:57Speaker 00

  I went to Maui not too long ago, maybe four months ago.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Maui's awesome.

• 2:03:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's all, but we went to the place where the hurricane, where the fires were.

• 2:03:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yes, the fires.

• 2:03:04Speaker 00

  Flew my mind, man.

• 2:03:06Joe Rogan?

  It's still nothing, right?

• 2:03:07Speaker 00

  It was unbelievable.

• 2:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:09Speaker 00

  It was, it was just like, it was unbelievable to see what had occurred, you know, and just like, um, it's crazy how quickly we just as like, how we move past certain tragedies, you know? Like, we don't mean to, it's just the news cycle does and, you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle and so then it's kind of hard, you know? But it was.

• 2:03:29Joe Rogan?

  I'll tell you one thing, what the way the administration handled that, I think, um, put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't, while you're sending all this money, overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it's like, why do you, why are you deciding in this manner? That you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you, why are you deciding to give them $700?

• 2:04:04Speaker 00

  Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist.

• 2:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right, because one of the things that's going on with this is like they gotta do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that. But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages. So like what happens?

• 2:04:22Speaker 00

  And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people, they live as like second and third generations, all living in the same home.

• 2:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:04:28Speaker 00

  And they've also, a lot of, you know how Hawaii is, they like, they'll like take little pieces of land. It's like, you know, people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard, that kind of thing. It's very like, um, you know, uh.

• 2:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable.

• 2:04:45Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, it's like this perfect like slope heading, looking down at the ocean.

• 2:04:50Joe Rogan?

  What I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanted to protect people from being victimized. I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up. Let's make sure that these people get their land back.

• 2:05:03Speaker 00

  That'd be the first thing I would say.

• 2:05:04Joe Rogan?

  If they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, you know, that's one thing. But if, if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild. They don't have the finances to rebuild, maybe there's a struggle with insurance, who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month, who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you're like, whoa.

• 2:05:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:05:27Joe Rogan?

  Because if they just, like, one of the things that the governor was talking about was like, uh, you turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say? Acquiring it for the state? What was his exact term that he said? But he said it like right after the tragedy, it was like, dude.

• 2:05:42Speaker 00

  This is not the time to say it.

• 2:05:43Joe Rogan?

  It's not the time to ever say it. It's not the time to ever say you're gonna take people's land and, and turn it into a park. Because they just got hit by a fire. So now, you, you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view, not anymore. Now the government's gonna take your land, why? Because you got in a tragedy.

• 2:05:59Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:06:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like I got double fucked? You got double fucked, you don't even get to keep the land? Like you can't even rebuild there?

• 2:06:06Speaker 00

  No, not anymore.

• 2:06:07Joe Rogan?

  There was a tragedy here. Like, wait a minute.

• 2:06:10Speaker 00

  Well, that, I think that's a weird thing when you don't feel like as a person that your government is gonna support you. I think that's, but that's probably like a feeling why.

• 2:06:16Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that sounds like the opposite. It's like your government's trying to rob you.

• 2:06:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:06:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, did you find it? Find the quote that he said?

• 2:06:24Joe Rogan?

  Cause I gotta, you gotta read the quote. Cause the quote is like, it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off. Tulsi was so pissed off. BJ was pissed off. Everybody was like, this is crazy. Like, how can you say that right after a tragedy like this?

• 2:06:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, I remember, I went there and I just walked up to the fire department that was like up the hill from there.

• 2:06:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man.

• 2:06:41Speaker 00

  And I just walked up and I was like, hey, I would like to, is there any way that I could go see what happened?

• 2:06:47Speaker 02

  When I was looking for it, this says that it's, the video is shortened and it makes the comments distorted.

• 2:06:52Joe Rogan?

  It distorts Hawaii governor's comments about the state buying land in Lahaina. So what are the actual, what did the actual say, though? I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land. So that we could put it into workforce housing, to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost. We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place and Lahaina will rebuild. A tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first.

• 2:07:38Speaker 00

  So maybe some of their goal, maybe some of their goal was to preserve it.

• 2:07:41Joe Rogan?

  Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Say that again. Scroll back. This is interesting. We don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first. I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it. So them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it and selling it and putting something there.

• 2:08:11Joe Rogan?

  But it's still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's gonna take the land.

• 2:08:16Speaker 00

  Well, it'd be very scary as just a regular person, like.

• 2:08:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:19Speaker 00

  So I'm gonna lose, so I'm either gonna lose my.

• 2:08:21Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:08:22Speaker 00

  Land from, to here or to here.

• 2:08:24Joe Rogan?

  Right, like where am I going now? What, what, what am I doing? You know, and you don't hear anything about it.

• 2:08:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, you don't anymore.

• 2:08:31Joe Rogan?

  We looked it up, once there was a time where the government accidentally oversent money to Ukraine. They sent them six billion dollars they shouldn't have sent. So we looked up, how much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's five billion. So the extra money that they accidentally.

• 2:08:49Speaker 00

  They could've sent there.

• 2:08:50Joe Rogan?

  Sent to Ukraine. They could've sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over.

• 2:08:56Speaker 00

  But.

• 2:08:57Joe Rogan?

  But we, we give you seven hundred dollars.

• 2:08:59Speaker 00

  Unreal.

• 2:09:00Joe Rogan?

  That's disgusting. That's disgusting. Like, if you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team, you gotta treat us all like we're on the same team. You can't really be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing anything to help these folks, like.

• 2:09:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just, yeah, and people, people will say like, well, your tax dollars don't affect it, but at a certain point, it's not even about the, it's just like, do you not?

• 2:09:24Speaker 00

  Like, if I'm, if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me, you know? But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways, so.

• 2:09:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think whenever you have a system.

• 2:09:37Speaker 00

  I don't know, man. I'm out of my mind.

• 2:09:39Joe Rogan?

  System, you know, system's a bunch of people. And so when you have a bunch of people, an enormous amount of people, it's too many people to think about as individuals. You think about it as numbers. And that's, that's, that's like the sort of sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. But when people start to lose their purp-, like, if you start to lose your sense of being an American, then you start to, that's a, that's big for a lot of people, right? Like, so then it's a sense of purpose, right? One of the senses of purpose is, I feel like, that we get, or like having a job, having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love, or having, um, being a part of a country, right? Being a part of a fabric of a society.

• 2:10:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:10:19Speaker 00

  And when those things. Start to erode some of those things. And if you don't have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue.

• 2:10:26Joe Rogan?

  You know? Well, they get rogue, especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins, you're going to be in a right wing fascist dictatorship.

• 2:10:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's just fucking pisses me off. I don't understand that. That should be a crime.

• 2:10:39Joe Rogan?

  It should be, well, it's, at the very least, it's like slanderous. Like, that's not, it's not true. You can't back that up. It's not true. Like, you're, you're saying something that we, we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that.

• 2:10:53Speaker 00

  And what does fascist mean?

• 2:10:55Joe Rogan?

  Let's look up the actual definition, but there's a bunch of different versions of it. It's usually connected to a right wing authoritarian ideology and a, uh, the power of the state over people. Um, and it gets twisted around a lot because it's also, you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain, uh, speech, which is, which would make a lot of left wing people fascist as well. Far right authoritarian and utilitarian, oh, ultra nationalist, ultra nationalist. Political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests

• 2:11:40Joe Rogan?

  for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to an anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism. Fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left right wing spectrum.

• 2:12:00Speaker 00

  Who's doing all that?

• 2:12:01Joe Rogan?

  No one is. So it's like, it's a bullshit term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please. It's like. There's real fascists in the world. There's real, there's really dangerous people. That guy's not. He's, he's got a big ego. He says ridiculous things.

• 2:12:19Speaker 00

  Who are you talking about?

• 2:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Trump. He doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president, but...

• 2:12:25Speaker 00

  No, he just seems like a, just an older guy who kinda has like, likes being Donald Trump.

• 2:12:31Joe Rogan?

  I think he loves being Donald Trump, but I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with.

• 2:12:35Speaker 00

  Well, I think you need a businessman to do this. It's not a, it's not a, we don't live in a, like, this like, Care Bear world anymore. Our, our politics, it's become a dirty fucking business.

• 2:12:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:12:48Speaker 00

  So you, I think you want a businessman in there. Like, I don't care if somebody, like, somebody's attitude. Can the guy do business? Then that's who I, because it's not, it's not, it's all business now. Like, we've been, it's been sold out. It's like, I don't feel like it's this... I don't know. Does that make any sense, dude? Sorry, dude. I'm fucking having a day, man.

• 2:13:08Joe Rogan?

  No, don't apologize. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Yeah, it is business.

• 2:13:14Speaker 00

  But it's like, you want a shrewd businessman. I don't need Mary Poppins in there, right?

• 2:13:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13:18Speaker 00

  I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay. I need just like, um, I need somebody to make our fucking food safe. I need somebody to make our streets safe.

• 2:13:26Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13:26Speaker 00

  And that's all I really need. Like,

• 2:13:28Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:13:28Speaker 00

  I feel like if I'm paying taxes, then those are the things that I should expect that my FDA and that my police department, which I'm paying for, are gonna be able to, um, make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children. I feel like, I don't have any children yet, but I already feel, you know, that's what I feel like people want. I, I, I don't care about anything else.

• 2:13:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I think most people feel the same way. They just want to be safe and happy. Uh, RFK Jr. tweeted something. See if you can find that.

• 2:13:57Speaker 00

  Well, Adam McKay had a great, great tweet, dude.

• 2:13:59Joe Rogan?

  But RFK tweeted like a message to, uh...

• 2:14:05Speaker 02

  The thing you sent me yesterday?

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  What, is it the RFK one?

• 2:14:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a lo- it was long, right?

• 2:14:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:14Joe Rogan?

  What's the matter, bro?

• 2:14:14Speaker 00

  Just having the worst day today, man.

• 2:14:16Joe Rogan?

  I got it right here if you want it, Jamie.

• 2:14:17Speaker 02

  I got it.

• 2:14:18Speaker 00

  Sorry, being a downer.

• 2:14:20Joe Rogan?

  No, you're not being a downer, but you keep-

• 2:14:21Speaker 02

  This wasn't it, this-

• 2:14:22Joe Rogan?

  That's it.

• 2:14:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm sorry, man.

• 2:14:23Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, FDA's war on public health is about to end. This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean foods, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma. If you work for the FDA and are a part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you. Number one, preserve your records, and number two, pack your bags.

• 2:14:54Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. That's what's crazy about Trump winning. That's what's crazy.

• 2:14:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's the thing, I like, I just, I love this.

• 2:15:01Joe Rogan?

  And then you got people like Tulsi, that's, you know, that's, that's the type of person you want, congresswoman-

• 2:15:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:06Joe Rogan?

  For eight years, like, impeccable character, and then you've got Vivek, who's a genius, you got JD Vance, who's fucking brilliant as well.

• 2:15:15Speaker 00

  Oh, he's great.

• 2:15:15Joe Rogan?

  So you have a bunch of good people with him this go around.

• 2:15:19Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, it's like-

• 2:15:21Joe Rogan?

  We gotta like, get people off each other's necks, man. You know, that's what we gotta do. We gotta get people to like, stop attacking each other, it's so crazy.

• 2:15:30Speaker 00

  Well, I felt a sense of like, even after the election was over, I felt like people, everything just felt kind of calm.

• 2:15:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, it's a team thing, dude. It's like your team lost. It really is. It's, these people that are super addicted to politics, they're like people who don't follow sports.

• 2:15:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:15:47Joe Rogan?

  Never played any games. This is the, the way they compete. They compete for the most important thing. Like, who gets to dictate the, the tone of the country?

• 2:15:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:15:57Joe Rogan?

  Right?

• 2:15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life, you know? Even when I was a kid, I didn't, you know, my mom told us, don't ever depend on the government for anything. You know, it's like, you just, you have to do it, you just have to figure it out, you know?

• 2:16:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:16:11Speaker 00

  Like, they used to have some rich dude or whatever, like, like, our street, it would like, cut between like, the highway and like, this other road where people would go, and so, they had a guy who was like, a veterinarian or whatever, and he would go down our street, he would stop and throw out like, um- He's like, he was a veterinarian. And he would throw like animal carcasses into our ditch and shit, right?

• 2:16:34Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, like dead cats and shit?

• 2:16:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, dead animals, you know, different animals, nothing really, uh, I would say medium size, you know, probably thirty-two waist and lower, right?

• 2:16:45Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:16:45Speaker 00

  He would throw those bitches out into the huck and I guess just to get rid of them. And our neighborhood was like the poor neighborhood, so it was like, who gives a fuck about these people, right?

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  Lot of asshole.

• 2:16:54Speaker 00

  Totally, but we-

• 2:16:55Joe Rogan?

  Just throw them in the streets?

• 2:16:56Speaker 00

  Throw them in the ditch. But we called the police and they'd be like, yeah, we'll help, and they would never come, you know? And my mom was like, don't ever, I remember telling her, do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do anything. You have to do shit yourself, you know?

• 2:17:09Joe Rogan?

  Also, cops don't wanna take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag, like that's not what they signed up for.

• 2:17:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 2:17:16Joe Rogan?

  And then go investigate the, let's see, what kind of animal is this?

• 2:17:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was this veterinarian. And he would just throw those bitches. And sometimes we, it would be, you know, after they died or whatever, like, after they, like, um, you know, after the bones got blanched or whatever by the sun, we would fucking throw, you know, do like games or shit, but nothing-

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:17:39Speaker 00

  You know, throw at each other, you fucking-

• 2:17:41Joe Rogan?

  You guys are throwing bones at each other?

• 2:17:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, fucking six rib cages there, yeah. You're fucking, bro, welcome to Haiti, dude.

• 2:17:47Joe Rogan?

  That's probably why you don't get sick a lot. You got immunized by the, all the bacteria and finding dead animals.

• 2:17:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, we, yeah, we had a good time. But nothing like that snake that had in that ditch, bring that thing back up, dude.

• 2:18:00Joe Rogan?

  I wonder how many fucking kids, um, that get helicopter parented, get allergic to more shit? Cause they don't get exposed to things, they're not crawling around, playing in dirt and shit. All that stuff's probably gotta be good for your body. Right? When you're little kids, especially playing in dirt, playing outside.

• 2:18:17Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, if you're just sheltered or whatever.

• 2:18:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Just for your biome, it's gotta be good for you.

• 2:18:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever.

• 2:18:28Speaker 00

  You know, I gotta ask my mom, I guess.

• 2:18:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, that snake was crazy. That's the crazy thing to me, man, is seeing a snake eat something like that.

• 2:18:37Joe Rogan?

  Do you know how many snakes there are in, um, the Everglades?

• 2:18:42Joe Rogan?

  There's more pythons, more pythons in the Everglades.

• 2:18:45Speaker 00

  I would guess a hundred and fifty, oh, no, that's even lower, I bet. I would bet two hundred thousand.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  Five hundred. That's just a rough estimation. They could be off by a factor of, who fucking knows? They don't really know. It's dense, dense, dense, dense jungle.

• 2:18:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like, "Yeah, there's probably five."

• 2:19:02Joe Rogan?

  I have this dude in here, Python Cowboy, he goes and hunts for them. He's got a dog, and the dog will find the nests.

• 2:19:10Speaker 00

  Let's just say this.

• 2:19:11Joe Rogan?

  He's pulling these giant ass pythons out of nests.

• 2:19:13Speaker 00

  That dog's been sexually assaulted, I bet. I'll say that, dude.

• 2:19:17Joe Rogan?

  That dog's a psychopath. It's going after something that could easily swallow it.

• 2:19:21Speaker 00

  Dude, that's a seventy-seven pound deer, you see that?

• 2:19:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, dude.

• 2:19:25Speaker 00

  That thing is a damn sixth grader, dude.

• 2:19:27Joe Rogan?

  They eat alligators.

• 2:19:28Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:19:29Joe Rogan?

  This is the crazy thing. Because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades, ninety percent of all the mammals are missing.

• 2:19:38Joe Rogan?

  There's no mammals anymore.

• 2:19:39Speaker 00

  Oh, they ate them all.

• 2:19:40Joe Rogan?

  They ate them all.

• 2:19:41Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:19:41Joe Rogan?

  This ninety percent are missing.

• 2:19:43Speaker 00

  How long does it, how long does it take a snake to eat something that big?

• 2:19:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing is the number of snakes. Like, it's the perfect environment for those animals. Like, it's like they just dropped off in paradise. Nothing eats them, there's no crocodiles.

• 2:19:56Speaker 00

  Snakes, yeah, they're living in it.

• 2:19:58Joe Rogan?

  So some alligators must eat some of them.

• 2:20:00Speaker 00

  But how long does it take a snake to eat something?

• 2:20:02Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Two thousand and twelve study found that populations of raccoon had declined ninety-nine point three percent, opossums ninety-eight point nine percent, and bobcats eighty-seven point five percent since nineteen ninety-seven. Marsh rabbits, cotton-tail rabbits, and foxes effectively disappeared over that time.

• 2:20:20Speaker 00

  Got it!

• 2:20:21Joe Rogan?

  So they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes.

• 2:20:25Speaker 00

  But how long does it, like, I mean, it's unbelievable, but how long, that's Satan working as well. And how long does it take, how long does it take a snake to digest, like, how long does it take once it gets that deer?

• 2:20:36Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question. I wonder. I know that, uh...

• 2:20:40Speaker 00

  Like, is it days, or is it like weeks?

• 2:20:43Joe Rogan?

  Let's guess.

• 2:20:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:20:45Joe Rogan?

  Um, a full deer. Uh, one week. I say one week.

• 2:20:49Speaker 00

  Oh, that's a pretty good guess.

• 2:20:50Joe Rogan?

  Cause he's like antlers and shit and hooves.

• 2:20:53Speaker 00

  Wish I guessed that.

• 2:20:54Joe Rogan?

  Do you think they swallowed antlers? Do they go for the bucks and swallow antlers?

• 2:20:58Speaker 00

  Well, I bet.

• 2:20:58Joe Rogan?

  Imagine swallowing, you feel like such an asshole. When the antler was going down, you'd be like, oh my god, I can't believe I swallowed the antler. It's gonna take forever to break down. You're just gonna be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever. Oh, everywhere you go, ow, ow, just a revenge of that deer.

• 2:21:17Speaker 00

  No comfortable way to sleep?

• 2:21:18Joe Rogan?

  And what do they do with the antlers, man?

• 2:21:20Speaker 00

  Well, they must die. I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is de- is deceased.

• 2:21:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, the antler is, is just bone. But it's so pokey. Like, look at it.

• 2:21:30Speaker 00

  I would bet three weeks.

• 2:21:31Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that the wildest thing that nature does, dude? Nature gives them weapons for a few months. This is what, what happens with a deer.

• 2:21:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:21:41Joe Rogan?

  And when they stop breeding, these fall off. Every year. So these, you find them on the ground, they call them sheds.

• 2:21:48Speaker 00

  So you can only defend yourself while you're breeding?

• 2:21:50Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. And it's offensive as much as it's defensive. They run at each other and clash. You see them fighting. It happens all the time. It's pretty fucking cool. They go after each other and just fuck each other up and.

• 2:22:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, they'll see them sometimes hooked together. Yeah, I mean, nature's danger. Nature is really, really unbelievable. That's the number one person in the world.

• 2:22:10Joe Rogan?

  I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together. So they're clashing antlers, they got locked together. And one of them got eaten by a coyote. So one was still alive, connected to this body, couldn't get away, while the other one got torn apart by a coyote.

• 2:22:27Speaker 00

  Ugh.

• 2:22:28Joe Rogan?

  And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that, cause neither one of them can get away. The coyotes recognized that they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him, just gutted him.

• 2:22:39Speaker 00

  That's like when you're in a threesome but nobody wants to touch you kinda, you know?

• 2:22:42Speaker 02

  He's trying to eat one with antlers and got fucked up.

• 2:22:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh god.

• 2:22:48Speaker 00

  Oh, it cut his own body open?

• 2:22:49Speaker 02

  Bails on it.

• 2:22:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh my god. Oh, look at his mouth. He's got the antler stuck through his fucking jaw.

• 2:22:58Speaker 00

  I would hate some. I hate it when people take-

• 2:23:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he slid off of it. Wow.

• 2:23:03Speaker 00

  I hate it when people take a long time to eat, you know?

• 2:23:05Joe Rogan?

  It went right through him.

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  But don't you hate that though? Like when you're eating and somebody, um, you're done eating and they're still eating?

• 2:23:13Joe Rogan?

  That doesn't bother me at all. That bothers you?

• 2:23:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:16Joe Rogan?

  Why? It doesn't bother me even a little bit.

• 2:23:18Speaker 00

  Really?

• 2:23:18Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:23:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, like you're at a restaurant and they're done, right? They're done, you have to fucking, you're done. And they're still just, yeah.

• 2:23:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, just talk to them.

• 2:23:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, but then you kinda, you feel like you have to pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl or whatever, you're like-

• 2:23:31Joe Rogan?

  No. No. You're thinking too much.

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  I think it's crazy to sit there and watch somebody eat. That's fucking-

• 2:23:38Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 2:23:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, bro.

• 2:23:40Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 2:23:41Speaker 00

  Cause dude, they're eating.

• 2:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you were eating with them too.

• 2:23:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, but you're done.

• 2:23:46Joe Rogan?

  So what?

• 2:23:46Speaker 00

  Now you're just gonna fucking look at them.

• 2:23:48Joe Rogan?

  I'm just gonna look at them. Like, how is it? Tell me about each bite.

• 2:23:52Speaker 00

  Nah.

• 2:23:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just, I feel like if somebody's already, if I, if I, I don't like, I don't like, uh, when people eat real slow.

• 2:24:00Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:24:00Speaker 00

  It makes me nervous.

• 2:24:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, you should just like be real clear about that before you go out with someone.

• 2:24:04Speaker 00

  Like, let's eat it.

• 2:24:05Joe Rogan?

  Like, we can eat together, but I got this thing. Like, when I'm done, you're done.

• 2:24:13Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you're like super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule. When I'm done eating, no one eats. And she's like, well, this is bullshit. Like, I know, it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's, I have a tic.

• 2:24:28Joe Rogan?

  I have a psychological problem. I can't just sit there. So when I'm done eating, you have to be done. And I don't eat fast. I don't eat fast, but I'm warning you, when that fucking bell rings-

• 2:24:37Speaker 00

  Bon appetit.

• 2:24:38Joe Rogan?

  All forks are off the table.

• 2:24:42Speaker 00

  Bon appétit's up dude.

• 2:24:44Joe Rogan?

  That would be the weirdest thing that you were obsessed with. You have to, you have to end at the exact same time, last bite.

• 2:24:51Speaker 00

  That kinda shit, yeah, I just, that would make me, I just, yeah, that kinda stuff, little things kinda make me uncomfortable dude. But that, uh, what else was I thinking about?

• 2:25:02Joe Rogan?

  Pythons.

• 2:25:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, pythons, whales or whatever, big animals. Dude, it's crazy like how they have all those Airbnbs now where it's like, you can stay in like a, um, like a hollowed out whale carcass out here on the park, you know, it's like,

• 2:25:18Speaker 00

  like Airbnb's, bring up some Airbnb's please sir. They've gotten weird, it's like, welcome to this, uh, it's like, oh, it's like, welcome to this two-story whale carcass down here at Punta Verde, Mexico, they make up, it's like, Punta, so, every month there's a new Punta in Mexico, you're like, what the fuck are we doing?

• 2:25:37Joe Rogan?

  You renamed a city.

• 2:25:38Speaker 00

  Every time it's like, welcome to fucking Punta Pescado, Mexico, you wanna stay in this two-bedroom.

• 2:25:44Joe Rogan?

  You can stay in that, it's a potato, it's a giant potato, what is that? What did they call it? Okay, ten weirdest Airbnb listings let you sleep in a shoe, an elephant and a flying saucer. It's a six-time potato. Let's go to the flying saucer, oh shit, I wanna stay there.

• 2:26:02Speaker 00

  That's yours dude.

• 2:26:03Joe Rogan?

  Bro, if I wasn't married, I'd have the stupidest house. My house would, uh, it was one of two things, I'd either have it built into the side of a hill like the Hobbit.

• 2:26:12Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 2:26:13Joe Rogan?

  That'd be kinda dope, or I would go full spaceship.

• 2:26:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:17Joe Rogan?

  Just a house where a sixteen-year-old boy would see it and be like, dude. Yeah, just appear to the child in you.

• 2:26:25Speaker 00

  Like Kid Rock's vibe.

• 2:26:27Joe Rogan?

  Totally Kid Rock's vibe. But Kid Rock's White House, I maintain, is the coolest celebrity house I've ever been to.

• 2:26:32Speaker 00

  It's one of one, man.

• 2:26:33Joe Rogan?

  It's not just one of one, it's, he's the only one that would even think about doing that. It's like him and maybe John Daly would build a fucking White House.

• 2:26:42Speaker 00

  John Daly's unbelievable dude. Every time I go somewhere, every time he's there, he gets an ambulance, takes him home.

• 2:26:49Speaker 00

  Unbelievable dude. Every time I'm there, he like, it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven dude, I'm like, this motherfucker's headed. One time, the ambulance came, he, they came in to look for him, he went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him, bro. And they're in the place and they're like, where is he? And we're like, he's.

• 2:27:08Joe Rogan?

  There's something everybody loves about the overweight dude who's really good at a game.

• 2:27:14Speaker 00

  Dude, did you see that golfer girl though? The girl that smokes, the female John Daly dude?

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:27:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:20Joe Rogan?

  She hot?

• 2:27:21Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:27:22Joe Rogan?

  She smokes cigarettes?

• 2:27:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:27:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:25Joe Rogan?

  She's hot?

• 2:27:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:27Joe Rogan?

  Dios in love.

• 2:27:28Speaker 00

  Welcome to nineteen eighty-four.

• 2:27:31Joe Rogan?

  It's coming back.

• 2:27:32Speaker 00

  Let's do it, dude.

• 2:27:33Joe Rogan?

  Let's go.

• 2:27:34Speaker 00

  Cause I gotta get a damn wife, Joe Rogan.

• 2:27:36Joe Rogan?

  That's your move? Get yourself a golfer wife. Someone that, oh, look at that, smoking cigarettes, looking hot.

• 2:27:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:42Joe Rogan?

  Let me see. Woo, baby.

• 2:27:44Speaker 00

  Oh, fuck.

• 2:27:45Joe Rogan?

  And smoking in front of everybody, too.

• 2:27:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, she just rip starts on the.

• 2:27:48Joe Rogan?

  Is she from England?

• 2:27:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:50Joe Rogan?

  Ah, there you go.

• 2:27:51Speaker 00

  Puffer McGavin, dude.

• 2:27:52Joe Rogan?

  They over there, they just fucking smoke. They smoke a lot more over there. Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette.

• 2:27:56Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. I'll smoke that lady.

• 2:27:59Joe Rogan?

  I bet you will.

• 2:28:00Speaker 00

  Sorry, that's insane. That sounds like a death threat. Also, man, if she could be married, I have no idea, dude.

• 2:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Don't be rude. The fuck's wrong with you, bro?

• 2:28:07Speaker 00

  I don't know, I'm just fucking, everything's high strung today.

• 2:28:11Joe Rogan?

  There was a professional pool player, his name was Kid Delicious.

• 2:28:14Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:28:15Joe Rogan?

  And everybody loved him because he was this big fat dude who played really good. But it was the big fat guy thing that people liked.

• 2:28:22Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:28:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you don't have to be a fucking athlete.

• 2:28:24Speaker 00

  You don't have to be any good.

• 2:28:24Joe Rogan?

  You don't have to be a guy eating salads and fucking getting up in the morning, doing yoga before you come to the pool hall. No. This guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was Kid Delicious.

• 2:28:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:35Joe Rogan?

  There's a great book about him. Uh, John Wertheim, I think is his name, Running the Table? Yeah.

• 2:28:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, people love, uh, short-term fats, man. There's something about it. If you know there's a bigger guy and you know, you think he's not gonna live long, there's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately.

• 2:28:50Joe Rogan?

  But John Daly back in the day wasn't fat. He was like an athlete. This is just a lifetime of like, living hard.

• 2:28:57Speaker 00

  Oh, he's a fucking.

• 2:28:58Joe Rogan?

  Look at him, like, right there, he was fucking stout dude.

• 2:29:01Speaker 00

  Oh, he looks, no, John Daly is an exceptional guy. Great storyteller. He's a fucking, he's the Santa Claus of every seven eleven I've ever been to.

• 2:29:08Joe Rogan?

  Look at that hair. And, but he's a guy that's been playing. Golf for like, how many fucking years now, you know?

• 2:29:15Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:29:16Joe Rogan?

  You know, the feel you must have of that ball, playing professional golf for all those years?

• 2:29:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. He'll hit a sixty-eight in an ICU, dude. This guy's one of a kind, I feel like. You know? Nobody could do it like him. He's exceptional.

• 2:29:30Joe Rogan?

  All he drinks is Diet Coke.

• 2:29:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, sure.

• 2:29:32Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't like water.

• 2:29:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. He likes things other than Diet Coke.

• 2:29:36Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure, but he doesn't drink water.

• 2:29:38Speaker 00

  No, he's great, man.

• 2:29:39Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure he drinks alcohol, too.

• 2:29:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, don't you wanna stay at this Airbnb? Don't you wanna stay in this hollowed-out moose carcass out here in Bend, Oregon?

• 2:29:48Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 2:29:48Speaker 00

  It's, it's, uh...

• 2:29:50Joe Rogan?

  Don't you wanna stay in our treehouse?

• 2:29:53Speaker 00

  Who built this?

• 2:29:54Joe Rogan?

  Where do I shit?

• 2:29:56Speaker 00

  Dude, Airbnb's have gotten so crazy.

• 2:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Don't people rent out, like, tents and shit?

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's, yeah, it's like...

• 2:30:03Joe Rogan?

  They'll, they'll supply you the tent and everything like that?

• 2:30:05Speaker 00

  It's just like, regular shit, and people are like, "Yeah, we'll go stay there," you know?

• 2:30:09Joe Rogan?

  Not a bad move. If you don't, if you don't wanna set up a tent, like, I like camping, but I'm too lazy to set up a tent.

• 2:30:14Speaker 00

  I'll just show up in your house?

• 2:30:15Joe Rogan?

  You know, you get them rods and shit, you gotta piece it together and fucking, it's all like...

• 2:30:19Speaker 00

  And you look sad in front of your wife, too. You're like...

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  And you're tying it down, dink, dink, dink, in the ground, dink, dink, dink, and then you're realizing you're just sleeping in a little cloth house.

• 2:30:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:28Joe Rogan?

  Out in the woods.

• 2:30:29Speaker 00

  Ooh, hey, bunny.

• 2:30:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's an Airbnb tent. Go stay in the tent.

• 2:30:33Speaker 00

  Dude, that's probably in Austin.

• 2:30:35Joe Rogan?

  You can fuck in this tent, bro.

• 2:30:36Speaker 00

  Fuck, yeah.

• 2:30:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let's go.

• 2:30:38Speaker 00

  You ever did a lot of fucking outdoors, or what was your life like?

• 2:30:41Joe Rogan?

  Outdoor fucking's the way to go. I ain't scared of mosquitoes. I'm an outdoor fucker, whenever possible.

• 2:30:46Speaker 00

  Did you ever do any when you were younger, Joe?

• 2:30:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I stuck away in the woods. Me and this one girl, we were fooling around in the woods. We never got to the actual sex part. We got close. We got ate alive by mosquitoes who tried to get naked outside, and so, like, literally, our whole bodies was covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific.

• 2:31:02Speaker 00

  Were y'all near a stream, or was it more landlocked area?

• 2:31:04Joe Rogan?

  It was near a river.

• 2:31:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was near the Charles River.

• 2:31:07Speaker 00

  My guy.

• 2:31:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Kids would just go into the woods, you know? We'd always find kids drinking in the woods.

• 2:31:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:13Joe Rogan?

  You know? Like, we lived in an area, I lived in Newton, Massachusetts, when I was in high school. And Newton is, uh, it's a great town, like, a really cool area. And, uh, where I lived, which is called Upper Falls, there was, uh, all these, like, woods and trees and shit, and the river was right across the street from my house, and... It was like, there was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boombox and smoking cigarettes. It was like the outsiders. It was really interesting. And then one kid would get a car, like, oh shit, Bobby's got a car.

• 2:31:44Speaker 00

  Oh, it was the best, dude.

• 2:31:45Joe Rogan?

  Brrr brrr, Bobby's driving us around.

• 2:31:47Speaker 00

  Rockford five skates in the trunk, just coming down the street.

• 2:31:50Joe Rogan?

  Dude, to this day, one of my favorite cars, I have a 1970 Chevelle. And I got-

• 2:31:55Speaker 00

  You own it?

• 2:31:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:56Speaker 00

  Oh, bring it up. I would like to see it.

• 2:31:57Joe Rogan?

  When I was, but when I was a kid-

• 2:32:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:01Joe Rogan?

  Before I had a car, my friend picked me up in his buddy's car. I didn't know the other dude. I met him like from school or something like that, but I didn't know him. And, uh, he picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle. It was black with white stripes and it was perfect. And I remember I saw it, I was like, how does he own this? How can you own this?

• 2:32:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:23Joe Rogan?

  That's how I felt. I was sitting in the backseat of the car, I was like, this is, this car is so crazy that you could own this car? And I remember he ran out of gas, but coasted right into the gas station. And stopped the car in front. It was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen in my life. The guy owned that car somehow. As a 16-year-old boy, I was looking at this car going, how? How did you do this? How did you do this?

• 2:32:49Speaker 00

  Let's see it.

• 2:32:52Joe Rogan?

  No, that's, that's a different car, Jamie. That's my 1970 Barracuda.

• 2:32:58Speaker 00

  That's a beautiful-

• 2:32:59Joe Rogan?

  I don't think the 70 Chevelle is on anywhere. But it's, it's a, just Google black 70 Chevelle SS, white stripes.

• 2:33:07Speaker 00

  Dude, there's nothing, there's nothing like-

• 2:33:09Joe Rogan?

  That's it.

• 2:33:09Speaker 00

  There's, there's nothing like running out of gas and coasting to the fucking pump.

• 2:33:13Joe Rogan?

  Mine looks almost exactly like that. But that's exactly like this kid's looked when he picked me up and I got a ride in his car. I was like, this, that's a 69. That's another ama- amazing car. But that one, the upper one in the middle, that's my, that's my actual car. That's my car.

• 2:33:28Speaker 00

  Ooh, wow.

• 2:33:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Dude, I love that thing. That's my favorite, I think, out of all of them. I love it so much. It just, because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16-year-old kid and this guy had this car. I was like, how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car?

• 2:33:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, that was cra- dude, if a cra- if a older, if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car, that was like,

• 2:33:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:33:51Speaker 00

  Getting into like, somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling ever.

• 2:33:57Joe Rogan?

  Cause you couldn't believe it.

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, you were like, what?

• 2:33:59Joe Rogan?

  The things that we completely take for granted. Like, your buddy picks you up and give you a ride, like, hey, what's up? What's up, Will? How's it going on? It's normal. For you now, like, oh, I'm just sitting in the backseat of my friend's car. But back then, it was like, whoa, whoa.

• 2:34:12Speaker 00

  How to, what do you, yeah, hey, play something cool on the radio. Everything meant something.

• 2:34:15Joe Rogan?

  I remember my friend Mike was taking flying lessons when I was in high school. And, uh, I went up in an airplane with him when I was fourteen. He, we were both fourteen. And he was taking flight lessons when I was

• 2:34:30Joe Rogan?

  He's like, what the fuck? I'm letting this fourteen-year-old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor.

• 2:34:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but back then, like, you would just,

• 2:34:41Speaker 00

  You just do shit.

• 2:34:42Joe Rogan?

  So thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You'd hop in your buddy's backseat, like, where are we going?

• 2:34:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:48Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, man, we're gonna go to Bobby's house.

• 2:34:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:51Joe Rogan?

  Alright, you're listening to songs on the radio. You couldn't believe you were in a car.

• 2:34:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it mattered, like, if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seatbelt was on, if your arms were over this, yes, you wanna look cool.

• 2:35:04Joe Rogan?

  One hand on the steering wheel, one hand out the window.

• 2:35:07Speaker 00

  And you thought everybody you drove past looked at you.

• 2:35:10Joe Rogan?

  What's up, kids? How you doing? Yeah.

• 2:35:12Speaker 00

  What's up, kid? Just looking for some pussy.

• 2:35:15Joe Rogan?

  I remember there was this one dude,

• 2:35:16Speaker 00

  Those are the days, man.

• 2:35:17Joe Rogan?

  When I was in high school, there was this one dude who was like, uh, he, I think he was a couple of years older than us, and he graduated, but he was dating a girl that still went to the high school, and he had an IROC-Z Camaro.

• 2:35:31Speaker 00

  With the T-tops or no?

• 2:35:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, of course. He had the T-tops. And this dude pulled in front of the high school and everybody, like, couldn't believe it. He was like the coolest guy alive. Look at him in his IROC-Z, picking up the girl that none of us can date.

• 2:35:47Speaker 00

  We salute you!

• 2:35:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:35:52Speaker 00

  God, I fucking remember that shit, dude. I remember my brother one time, fucking-

• 2:35:56Joe Rogan?

  I got more of this story.

• 2:35:57Speaker 00

  Sorry, go on.

• 2:35:58Joe Rogan?

  That dude who had that IROC ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles. Just tried to like get the body out from under his car a couple of times, but couldn't do it, but just kept driving. So, driving around this IROC Z with a person stuck under the car, driving for miles.

• 2:36:24Speaker 00

  I hate that kind of stuff. Have you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever?

• 2:36:27Joe Rogan?

  Yes, that's different.

• 2:36:28Speaker 00

  I'm joking, I'm kidding.

• 2:36:29Joe Rogan?

  I feel like if you drive over someone, maybe pull over, hey, maybe pull over.

• 2:36:36Speaker 00

  But, I don't know, pulling over, dude, what do you do at that point?

• 2:36:39Joe Rogan?

  There's like guys that you hear about from high school. It's like you feel like you're in a Stephen King book, like Stand by Me or something like that, you know?

• 2:36:46Speaker 00

  Oh, totally. Everything felt like kind of had the Stephen King vibes back then, you know?

• 2:36:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, just, people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no internet. And you barely remembered people if you didn't see them for a month.

• 2:36:59Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:36:59Joe Rogan?

  Like you didn't even have a picture. I have like five pictures of my friends from high school, you know?

• 2:37:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:05Joe Rogan?

  And mostly because my friend Jimmy sends them to me. But it's like you don't remember. You don't remember what anybody looked like. You don't remember anything. But now-

• 2:37:13Speaker 00

  Too much.

• 2:37:14Joe Rogan?

  Now you know everything. But back then, it's like you would hear about this, like one of your, one of the guys you went to high school with, you got in trouble and like, oh no, now he's in jail. Whoa.

• 2:37:24Speaker 00

  Like Todd's in jail.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, whoa. I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail.

• 2:37:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:37:29Joe Rogan?

  He was friends with my friend. The first guy I ever met that was in jail.

• 2:37:32Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  And he had just the weirdest vibe. I had a buddy of mine who actually, it was a training partner of mine, who was one guy. He was like this one way and then he went to jail on a drug charge and he came out like three years later and he was a totally different person.

• 2:37:48Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 2:37:49Joe Rogan?

  He was super jacked. I don't know if they were, he was doing steroids or what, but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous. And he was telling me these stories about jail and about- All the the fights that he had gotten into in jail and he gotten like almost like a fight to the death with a mob stick in this guy. He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just changed him, man. I mean, I'd never experienced something like that before. Where I knew a guy before he went to prison and then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with. Like very dangerous, like he would try to kill you. We would have, we would have wars, like they weren't really sparring matches, they were fights.

• 2:38:33Speaker 00

  People were, yeah, some people got dangerous, dude, especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear, you know?

• 2:38:38Joe Rogan?

  This guy, this guy I think was both. I think he was on, um, he was on gear and I think he was doing coke. Cause I know he was selling, he was selling coke. I know he was getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up, he wound up dying. But here's, uh, here's where it gets really crazy. Um, while I knew this guy, like while, uh, he was training at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder. Where this guy who was an informant, they, I think he was an informant, they, they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine. To keep him alive while they were breaking his bones. So from him blacking out from the pain.

• 2:39:19Joe Rogan?

  They were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer.

• 2:39:26Joe Rogan?

  I think then they, I think they cut his hands and his head off too. And, uh, he got somehow or another, he got implicated. Or at least questioned about that. I was like, yo.

• 2:39:38Speaker 00

  Imagine even being in the other room while that's going on.

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:39:41Speaker 00

  You know, even trying to watch a show or whatever, like, or just like.

• 2:39:44Joe Rogan?

  You hear, ah!

• 2:39:46Speaker 00

  You're like, keep it down!

• 2:39:50Joe Rogan?

  Can't you guys insulate your torture house? It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean, what the fuck, dude?

• 2:39:56Speaker 00

  I would never be able to torture somebody, I don't think. I would be able, I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody.

• 2:40:02Joe Rogan?

  You might be able to do if something, someone did something to your loved ones. I think you'd be surprised what like a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children.

• 2:40:12Speaker 00

  Children, yeah.

• 2:40:13Joe Rogan?

  You know.

• 2:40:13Speaker 00

  And a father too, huh?

• 2:40:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. But I mean, even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being like violent.

• 2:40:19Speaker 00

  And do you think it's a choice they make, or you think it's something that's just inside of them?

• 2:40:22Joe Rogan?

  It's inside of you. And you, there's a choice too, but it's inside of you. You're like, we have instincts to protect our kids, you know, and you, you could get crazy violent.

• 2:40:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:31Joe Rogan?

  And normal, regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children.

• 2:40:34Speaker 00

  Well, and it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children.

• 2:40:40Joe Rogan?

  Killing their own children?

• 2:40:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:40:41Joe Rogan?

  There's always been that, man. There's always been evil people.

• 2:40:44Speaker 00

  But it's just crazy, you know?

• 2:40:45Joe Rogan?

  People have children. Yeah, man. There's people that poison their kids. There's, there's, there's, there's evil people out there. And in every, you know, stretch of the world, you're gonna get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn't come out right. You know?

• 2:40:58Speaker 00

  And that's normal. It's like everything. There's always a percentage that's just not right, yeah?

• 2:41:02Joe Rogan?

  There's, well, whatever that struggle that the human race is involved in is, if you wanted to break it down, and I just philosophically, it's essentially a struggle between good and evil, always. It's always a struggle between good and evil.

• 2:41:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:16Joe Rogan?

  And you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome. And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small, but I think it, it enforces this idea to do good. And that good conquers evil if everybody works together cooperatively. But you need something. If you don't have resistance, it feels like people, well, the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things, and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives, we're, we're always like trying for progress, right? I think that's all sort of tied in to competition. And competition needs a, a foe. You need an antagonist and a protagonist. You need resistance.

• 2:41:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:57Joe Rogan?

  And I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world. The fortunate thing, fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love. And it, it motivates people to stop evil.

• 2:42:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:06Joe Rogan?

  And it motivates people to limit evil. You know, like the calls for law and order in this country, like during the, the riots, remember? When everybody was like, we need law and order. We need law and order. You can't have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order. Like that, that kind of stuff. It's like. That that's that that's good versus evil. It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died unjustly. That's crazy. You're just you're just using this as an opportunity to say fuck everyone. You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that.

• 2:42:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  You just you can't have that. So like when you encounter these different things, it makes you appreciate not having those things, so it motivates you. One of the things that got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit. He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, increase. All the things that make people feel good about the future.

• 2:43:06Speaker 00

  Will give you purpose.

• 2:43:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. And they didn't feel that way about the message that we're hearing they were hearing from the other side. They they they felt like it was gonna be more of the same shit. And more of the same shit doesn't get anything done. We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't wanna be involved in.

• 2:43:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, shut it down. Shut down everything that doesn't have to do with us, I feel like, for a while. It's like, there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country, you know?

• 2:43:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:43:32Speaker 00

  That's the biggest thing. I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group, you know? And that could be like, um, you know, everything from, uh, Native American times, slavery times, opioid epidemic. There's tons of things, I feel like, that it's like, and I don't know how you do that. I mean, I know time has a lot to do with it, but it's like, I just don't know if sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now, when it's like, um, we could, I think, try at least.

• 2:44:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts. I don't know if he can, but the the point is, like, something has to be done.

• 2:44:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:44:08Joe Rogan?

  We can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves. That seems crazy. And if you're you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves, well, we're not spending the the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have.

• 2:44:18Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, it's like, even if you look at like... Um, you know, recently I learned, sorry, recently I learned that like, um, the number one cause of medical debt is insurance, uh, is, um, medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right?

• 2:44:36Joe Rogan?

  Is it really?

• 2:44:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy that there's just such a laundering system that goes on. It's money laundering.

• 2:44:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, yeah, but the thing is like-

• 2:44:46Speaker 00

  Between hospitals and insurance companies.

• 2:44:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's definitely, I mean, if you talk to Brigham Buehler from Waste Well, he'll, he'll explain to you-

• 2:44:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just went there the other day.

• 2:44:52Joe Rogan?

  He's the man.

• 2:44:53Speaker 00

  I went to Kuya and I went there, dude. I've been trying to get well while I'm here.

• 2:44:56Joe Rogan?

  Trying to get, get well.

• 2:44:57Speaker 00

  It's been tough.

• 2:44:58Joe Rogan?

  Uh, what were we just talking about?

• 2:45:01Speaker 00

  Medical debt.

• 2:45:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he'll, he'll explain it real well. It's like, it's a, you know, it's kind of a fucked up system. But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you're, you're out of work because you got a medical issue, then you have medical bills. If you don't have insurance, you're really fucked. If you don't have insurance, like, whoa.

• 2:45:19Speaker 00

  But it's just a scam. Like, the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries. Just things that it's like, our government doesn't want to make better deals because there's this middleman that's making a lot of money off of it, you know?

• 2:45:29Joe Rogan?

  There's that.

• 2:45:30Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  There's, there's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money.

• 2:45:35Speaker 00

  I don't know a lot.

• 2:45:35Joe Rogan?

  And also companies that we need, you know? Pfizer makes good stuff. Makes, I mean, these companies make really beneficial drugs too.

• 2:45:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:45:43Joe Rogan?

  But it's just, the problem with all these fucking people is, they just want to make more money constantly. And if they can get you taking more pills than you need, they will. That's how they sell. They want to sell pills. They even come up with a reason. Are you anxious? I am a little. Hey, here you go. And next thing you know, you're dependent.

• 2:46:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like, do you have two legs? You ever been on a bicycle? Like, the things are just crazy, you know?

• 2:46:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, do your feet itch?

• 2:46:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. You ever had oatmeal raisin cookies? You're like, well, fucking, this is me, I think.

• 2:46:11Joe Rogan?

  We, uh, we, we can't let them advertise. People are still gonna buy the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media too. It affects what people are allowed to investigate. It affects what the, the news is. Because the news is not gonna give you everything. They're not, they're gonna conveniently ignore things that would affect their, their partnerships.

• 2:46:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:30Joe Rogan?

  If you have a-

• 2:46:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's all advertising.

• 2:46:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what, what did we say it was again? Amount of billions of dollars they spend every year on advertising? Pharmaceutical drug companies?

• 2:46:40Speaker 00

  Did you, um, were you-

• 2:46:44Speaker 00

  Were you nervous about endorsing Trump or no?

• 2:46:47Joe Rogan?

  I usually try to stay out of it.

• 2:46:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:46:49Joe Rogan?

  But I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and every, there was quite a few people. I didn't think it makes a difference. I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place.

• 2:47:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:04Joe Rogan?

  In my opinion. I just, I'm not buying, like, you know when we were talking about before with the way the country feels? Like, the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky. Because regardless of what you thought about his policies, what he did in place, it was real clear something was wrong with him. And they were lying to us.

• 2:47:24Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:47:25Joe Rogan?

  So that, so that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy, right? Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy's moving in the right general direction, even if you agree to those things. When you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously some, in some way compromised, there's something going on, something going on that they don't want to admit.

• 2:47:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:49Joe Rogan?

  And everybody knows it, and he drifts off, and he says things that don't make sense, and something's wrong, so everybody feels uncomfortable, even if everything's going well, right? Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country. And the tone for the last four years was confusion. So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks, or whenever she does interviews or she talks, is a confusing talk. There's word salad, and then, you know, there's like these moments where it seems like she just doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence, which can just be nerves. It could just be nerves talking in front of large groups of people. It doesn't mean she's not brilliant. It doesn't, it really doesn't.

• 2:48:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, she was new and kind of thrown into it.

• 2:48:36Joe Rogan?

  But some people clam up when they have to do those things. But then there's the argument, that's the job, though. You have to be able to do that, because you're gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and, you know, presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world. You gotta be able to handle pressure, so that's kind of part of it. Part of it too is you gotta be able to handle pressure. But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic. You know, and that then that's the tone of the country. And the tone of the country is not like. The the tone of the Obama administration, I always felt was the best because he was measured. Never attacked anybody was very articulate and smooth.

• 2:49:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's smooth.

• 2:49:15Joe Rogan?

  There was not a lot of ums and ahs like some people they. Trump throws too many extra words in, but it's just his flavor. His flavors, he rambles, he goes all over the place like a joke. Look at this hair. What is wrong with my hair? He makes fun. He's like doing stand up up there. Obama was the smoothest and Clinton Clinton was pretty fucking smooth too. Maybe Clinton and Obama, those are the goats. So like when you get a person for good or for bad, that's smooth and talks like a professional. Like an actual president, it makes everybody like, oh. He's got this. This guy's a real professional president. Like, look at him. With Trump, you're like, I hate Taylor Swift. Like, no, don't do that. Don't say that.

• 2:49:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, you pressed the wrong button today, buddy.

• 2:49:57Joe Rogan?

  He tweeted out that this that lady that he allegedly slept with was, he called her horse face. Why is the president?

• 2:50:07Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy to do.

• 2:50:09Speaker 00

  It's fucking unreal.

• 2:50:10Joe Rogan?

  But for a lot of like super sensitive people and progressive people, that's why they want to believe that he's Hitler. They want to believe they they look at these things and then they they don't look at it as like a flavor in the soup like, look, it's all pepper. No, it's not all pepper like peppers a part of it. Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet, I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever. What's important is like, what is he gonna do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems? And can he do it? And can he keep all these people in his staff, RFK Junior? I don't know. I don't know if he can do it, but if he can, at least we have hope. If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the corruption in the system. It'd be exciting. It'd be good for people. If we stop putting ingredients in foods.

• 2:50:53Joe Rogan?

  That are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous. How about we stop doing that here? Seems like a logical thing. It's not like Fruit Loops in Canada sell that less. It's probably equal sale.

• 2:51:03Speaker 00

  And people would get unaddicted quick. You're really just getting people addicted to things, you know?

• 2:51:07Joe Rogan?

  I don't even understand.

• 2:51:08Speaker 00

  And how about we prosecute that fucking Sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country? How about that?

• 2:51:12Joe Rogan?

  How about that?

• 2:51:13Speaker 00

  How about that?

• 2:51:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity.

• 2:51:17Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 2:51:17Joe Rogan?

  They were trying to buy immunity. They were gonna have like a settlement where they would give X amount of billions of dollars, but then they were immune to prosecution.

• 2:51:23Speaker 00

  But ain't that what they did, though?

• 2:51:24Joe Rogan?

  But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out.

• 2:51:29Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 2:51:30Joe Rogan?

  And that was, we talked about it once, but I don't know where it's at now. But that family, they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opium.

• 2:51:39Speaker 00

  Unfucking, this family is mass murderers.

• 2:51:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:51:42Speaker 00

  If they, anybody with the last name, they should, I don't give, I, kick that gene pool out of our fucking country. Those people are fucking murderers, dude. I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit.

• 2:51:52Joe Rogan?

  And do you know that that was the same family that was involved in Valium?

• 2:51:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, I do know that.

• 2:51:57Joe Rogan?

  Mother's Little Helper, that was Valium. That's what ladies in the fucking sixties were taking Valium.

• 2:52:03Speaker 00

  Fucking lizards. Get those motherfuckers out of here. And that's one thing, that was one of the reasons why I was like supportive of Vance. Like, you know, like, um, I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing and I hope that it'll get, I don't know if he can do anything because lobbies are so big now.

• 2:52:18Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't someone in his family an addict?

• 2:52:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, you know?

• 2:52:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:52:23Speaker 00

  But, um, he's just seen it, you know?

• 2:52:24Joe Rogan?

  Make sure that the Sackler family was involved in the Valium thing. I don't want to have to edit that out. As if I called them a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we weren't a piece of shit about that other thing. I think they were, though.

• 2:52:35Speaker 00

  I just, that's, like, even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry, you know?

• 2:52:40Joe Rogan?

  Here it is. Sackler family, remember, uh, yeah, Arthur Sackler, remember the Sackler family was a major figure in the promotion of Valium through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s. Yeah, that is it. So same family.

• 2:52:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:51Joe Rogan?

  Evil. It's evil.

• 2:52:52Speaker 00

  It's literally evil, like if you-

• 2:52:53Joe Rogan?

  Destroying lives.

• 2:52:54Speaker 00

  It's the, it's devil. It's the devil.

• 2:52:56Joe Rogan?

  It's a drug dealer. It's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors.

• 2:53:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:53:01Joe Rogan?

  You're sneaking around under the, you know, this, this guise of authority.

• 2:53:05Speaker 00

  Well, one of the problems is that the, say if you work for a politician, right, in, in, in DC.

• 2:53:13Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:53:13Speaker 00

  They can only pay you so much money by law.

• 2:53:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:53:17Speaker 00

  To work with them and be like, help put their bills together.

• 2:53:20Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:53:20Speaker 00

  So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who've been writing bills. For the congressmen and for the senators, so they then go to work as lobbyists. That's one of the biggest problems.

• 2:53:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:53:33Speaker 00

  So a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries, right? And that we also have a law that a lot, we also don't have a law that stops people once you work for one side that you can't work for the other.

• 2:53:43Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. That's the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical drug companies.

• 2:53:46Speaker 00

  And I'm not saying that those, I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that that's one of the thing, that's one of the reasons why that happened.

• 2:53:52Joe Rogan?

  It's a conflict of interest.

• 2:53:53Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:53:53Joe Rogan?

  For sure. And it's, it's just, nobody regulated it. They allowed it to happen. It should be, if you're working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money. That seems like a conflict of interest, like you would be willing to do, if you had conversations with these people and they'd say, "Listen, you're nice to us in a couple of years. Golden parachute. You want a yacht? I think you need a yacht." And next, you know, you're, you're a millionaire, which is bizarre that you can do that. It's just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress. You know that a bill's gonna get passed, you know this bill's gonna affect the stock. You gamble high on that stock. The bill gets passed and you make a lot of money.

• 2:54:37Joe Rogan?

  That seems illegal. That seems illegal.

• 2:54:42Speaker 00

  Yes, cheating.

• 2:54:42Joe Rogan?

  That seems crazy. But there's a lot of those things, man, and this, this system was set up by people and people are flawed.

• 2:54:49Speaker 00

  Right, that's a good point. Yeah, it's like, nothing, no one's gonna do anything perfectly. I don't know.

• 2:54:53Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's not just that. Accountability and transparency in terms of like what's actually going on is way different now, because our access to information is way different now. Like anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this, like, there's just, it's, you don't have to look in the New York Times anymore.

• 2:55:16Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:55:17Joe Rogan?

  You know, you don't have to wait for the news to come on at 5:00. Now you get it whenever you want it. And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with. So for the longest time, even though there's rules in the Constitution, set up in the Bill of Rights. There's been people that have had a lot of power for a long ass time without a bunch of people looking at them. And now more people are looking at them than ever before. And then you get this guy like Trump comes in like, FBI, they're crooked. Whoa, bro, what are you doing? You're going to war with the CIA?

• 2:55:48Speaker 00

  He's like that drunk uncle dude. Bro, what about Baron Trump dude? Nobody, there's no cred, like, whatever you think about this election, I, the whole thing to me is fascinating. First of all, because Dana White made so much stuff happen.

• 2:56:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:56:03Speaker 00

  Right?

• 2:56:04Joe Rogan?

  Dana White made the Trump thing happen, for sure.

• 2:56:06Speaker 00

  He was a li-

• 2:56:07Joe Rogan?

  He was trying to get me to have Trump on in like 2017.

• 2:56:10Speaker 00

  Bro, you would hear rumors of that in the distance.

• 2:56:12Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he would call me up, he'd call me up, Joe, listen, the president wants to do your podcast. I go, you mean Trump? He's trying to change the name of it.

• 2:56:20Speaker 00

  Wait, what are you doing, man? Why, you trying to get me in trouble?

• 2:56:24Joe Rogan?

  You know, and back then I was like, I don't want to be a part of this. There's too many people are angry, too many people pissed off, I was like, I don't need to. And I didn't pay attention to it enough. I didn't pay attention to, um, the way they were misrepresenting things that he had said enough.

• 2:56:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:40Joe Rogan?

  I didn't really, I, my wake-up call was when they went after me, when CNN went after me. I was like, yo, this is cra- you think I'm taking veterinary drugs, bitch?

• 2:56:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:49Joe Rogan?

  Like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dumb, also, why are you upset that I got better quick? Like, what is this about? Like, that I took veterinary drugs and got better quick?

• 2:56:58Speaker 00

  And why in the article, hey, why wouldn't you herald it, say, hey, this could be a possibility? You know, it's like-

• 2:57:03Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, it's just the, there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans.

• 2:57:07Speaker 00

  Those people are, it's all a sick-

• 2:57:08Joe Rogan?

  But, but when I saw that, and that was so minor in comparison to the way they've come after Trump, because they come after Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit. And I don't think he's a perfect person. I think he's fun. And I, I think he's a very competitive guy, which is why he likes playing golf so much. And it's why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again. And he pulled it off.

• 2:57:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:57:28Joe Rogan?

  And the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is, it's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together. And I think we should all have that mentality.

• 2:57:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:57:38Joe Rogan?

  This idea that we're all separate, we're on Team US- And I think we should just like all publicly state, nobody gives a fuck where you're from, what you do, you're on team USA, we're all in this shit together, that's it.

• 2:57:51Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:57:52Joe Rogan?

  That's it, let's forget about all this identity politics nonsense and all like.

• 2:57:56Speaker 00

  But is that gonna happen, you think?

• 2:57:58Joe Rogan?

  If, at least we can put that thought out there, instead of everyone's racist, everyone's a Nazi, every, like.

• 2:58:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:05Joe Rogan?

  It's, it's, that, that ain't helping nobody, you're just pushing people further and further away. The people that used to identify as left, they've been forced to these sort of center-right positions just to maintain normalcy.

• 2:58:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58:17Joe Rogan?

  When you're giving puberty blockers to kids, and you're opening up gender-affirming care clinics and treating kids, like, shut the fuck up, you're not on the right side, you think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate. What you're doing is crazy to most people, and we don't want it, and we think you're, you might be like in a cult, like you're, it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things. And they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society, like the no cash bail thing, like, things you think are good, you know, structural racism is why there's so many people in prison, right? Yeah, but, but you can just let people out who shoot people.

• 2:58:52Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:58:52Joe Rogan?

  You can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street, you can't have that. You can't have that, you'll have a full deterioration of society, and no one will thrive, and you'll be under chaos. You'll be like living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. You can't just keep this trend going, you're gonna fall apart, and it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen. These people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done, but it can be done, that, you know, that, there's, there's a version of all of these different communist philosophies that you can imply, there's socialism that could work, right? There's a version of it that can work, and make it more equitable for everybody, but the end of that is always one thing.

• 2:59:34Joe Rogan?

  It's totalitarian control over what you say and do. Because as soon as you want to redistribute funds, as soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore, then you're gonna have to take it from them.

• 2:59:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, I, I think like, to me, everything kind of started to feel like this private. Communism, right? Like, yeah, once the post office didn't work, I was like, the government is fucked, dude. I was like, these bastards can't even get a package to fucking Toledo in two days, dude, you know, like.

• 3:00:02Joe Rogan?

  Is that there's like UPS now.

• 3:00:05Speaker 00

  Right, but it all, but you go in there, dude, it's like a west and they're serving liquor at the counter like.

• 3:00:11Speaker 00

  It's gone downhill.

• 3:00:12Joe Rogan?

  They have liquor?

• 3:00:13Speaker 00

  I mean, they don't, but they. You could probably score a gram up there at the cat like it's got, it's gone, you know, the doors is no hinges on. Dude, it's the wild west over there.

• 3:00:24Joe Rogan?

  Post office you going to, bro?

• 3:00:25Speaker 00

  Every post office.

• 3:00:27Joe Rogan?

  All of them are bad?

• 3:00:28Speaker 00

  Eh, bro, it's. Seventy-five percent of the post offices are, it's gotten, but I just use that as an example of like. A govern, it just like started to fall apart, right?

• 3:00:37Joe Rogan?

  The last time I saw a post office was the last election. That was the last time I went to a post office.

• 3:00:43Speaker 00

  Well, yeah.

• 3:00:43Joe Rogan?

  The last election when I mailed in my California ballot.

• 3:00:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, and how many, I emailed twenty million of them apparently.

• 3:00:51Speaker 00

  How many, uh? And at that time, was there a saloon?

• 3:00:55Joe Rogan?

  What isn't that like at least cause for concern that leap in numbers? What is it now, Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now?

• 3:01:04Speaker 02

  The California one hasn't really, I don't know why it hasn't updated more.

• 3:01:08Joe Rogan?

  California is, they're digging in their heels. They don't want to make the election real.

• 3:01:12Speaker 00

  I don't think either one of these parties is what the, people say like Democrat, they're not the same parties it was fifteen years ago.

• 3:01:18Joe Rogan?

  Most people are waking up to that. That's why if you look at the map.

• 3:01:20Speaker 00

  There's something new going on.

• 3:01:21Joe Rogan?

  Look at the map of California, red and blue from two thousand and sixteen and then look at it from, or rather twenty twenty and then twenty twenty-four. There's a giant difference. A gi, I mean, a giant difference, a giant difference in the amount of counties that went red. It's just the big population centers are always going to be blue. They're, they're in the trance. If you're in San Francisco and if you're in Los Angeles, you're in the trance, like seventy percent of those people are in the trance. There's this.

• 3:01:46Speaker 00

  But they also believe things that mean something to them. So they're not like, because.

• 3:01:51Joe Rogan?

  Right, but socially, they're connected to all these ideas, you know, and socially, they're all like hyper-liberal. They're socially locked into like this mindset. It doesn't allow questioning narratives. It doesn't allow questioning these ideas. So like the idea of questioning science was like, there's no way. You're, "Wait, a science denier?"

• 3:02:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:10Joe Rogan?

  "Oh, you could be a science denier." You couldn't even say like, "Hey, are you sure that these companies, who have been lying their entire careers, they've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for, for lying. We know they lie. You sure they're telling you the truth about this drug? When they, they haven't injected giant swaths of the population with it before, but they're gonna do it now.

• 3:02:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:31Joe Rogan?

  And they promise it's gonna work.

• 3:02:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:02:33Joe Rogan?

  And then they're lying about the promises. They're lying about whether it stops transmission. They never even tested for that. They're lying for whether or not it stops you from being infected. They didn't test for that either.

• 3:02:42Speaker 00

  Well, the same people that own this, own the publication company. It's just starting to be so obvious. It's like, I don't know.

• 3:02:48Joe Rogan?

  But it's just money, man. It's just money.

• 3:02:50Speaker 00

  Right. And it's like, at what point does money mean something over the fact of somebody's peace of mind and health and wellness? Like, that's the thing I don't understand.

• 3:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology. So the, this is what it is. If you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it's not even really a vaccine, I mean, you're calling it a vaccine, but that's kind of a sneaky move, cause it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does. It works completely novel. It's a completely new thing. And if you can connect that with the people, that's the, the logical, educated people that are reasonable, and convince them that you can't look at it sideways. You can, you can never examine it. You can never question it. You never question whether or not it's even necessary. You just have to go with it. You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics, that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them. You can't, you gotta reject that because you have

• 3:03:44Speaker 00

  That was crazy.

• 3:03:44Joe Rogan?

  Because you have that emergency use authorization thing.

• 3:03:48Speaker 00

  That wasn't cool, man. I never took it and guess what? Doing great. You know? Yeah, I'm depress, I'm suffering from depression. Yeah. Had a lot of issues and back pain today.

• 3:03:56Joe Rogan?

  You are suffering from depression.

• 3:03:58Speaker 00

  Cry online a lot, but still.

• 3:03:59Joe Rogan?

  You're not hanging around with us. Come hang out here, man. Come move.

• 3:04:03Speaker 00

  I know. This year's been busy, man. I wanna, I'm, I'm

• 3:04:05Joe Rogan?

  Bro, if you lived in town. You'd be hanging out all the time.

• 3:04:08Speaker 00

  I know.

• 3:04:09Joe Rogan?

  You'd feel better. You'd feel better. You need a little community. I know you dude. You get weird. When you're by yourself too long, you get weird.

• 3:04:16Speaker 00

  Oh, and I spend a lot of time by myself, you know.

• 3:04:17Joe Rogan?

  You check, you call to check to see if people still like you.

• 3:04:20Speaker 00

  Did I do that?

• 3:04:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:04:21Speaker 00

  Fuck.

• 3:04:24Speaker 00

  That's most of my childhood. Did I really do that?

• 3:04:26Joe Rogan?

  One time you did.

• 3:04:28Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 3:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I was like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? Well, yeah, man, just wanted to make sure we're cool.

• 3:04:34Speaker 00

  Oh, I'll believe that.

• 3:04:34Joe Rogan?

  I'm like, of course we're cool. Like, what are you talking about? What happened?

• 3:04:37Speaker 00

  God.

• 3:04:37Joe Rogan?

  Nothing, just we ain't talked for a while.

• 3:04:39Speaker 00

  Wow, did I really do that?

• 3:04:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:04:41Speaker 00

  I believe you a hundred percent.

• 3:04:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was, it was a weird conversation.

• 3:04:45Speaker 00

  Fuck, that's a story of my life, dude.

• 3:04:47Joe Rogan?

  But I, I-

• 3:04:47Speaker 00

  Calling people to make sure we're okay?

• 3:04:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but I know you, man. So when you called me, I'm like, oh, three of you just need some love, you know? You're out there in the woods by yourself. Can't be alone, man.

• 3:04:57Speaker 00

  Well, I think part of me, I wanted to do, I've always just wanted, I wanted to do like my own thing, you know? But then you start to realize that there's a

• 3:05:05Speaker 00

  that you, yeah, you're doing it by yourself. And I think that goes for like, whether it's work relationships or, uh, personal relationships too, you know? I think it's just like, it's been the same psychology for me, you know, like, I'm the cra- I'll, I'll, I'll think, it's kind of me thought about this. I'll think to myself, I want to be in a relationship, but I want to do it on my own.

• 3:05:29Speaker 00

  I just realized that, dude.

• 3:05:31Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing.

• 3:05:32Speaker 00

  But it's, that's how, there's some, it's just like-

• 3:05:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can marry yourself, people do that.

• 3:05:36Speaker 00

  Oh, I would hate that, dude. I'm always just chasing myself trying to jerk me off.

• 3:05:43Speaker 00

  I would, I wouldn't get any sleep, dude. Oh, it'd be a nightmare.

• 3:05:47Joe Rogan?

  That would be a real problem. Yeah.

• 3:05:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, man, there's, I, uh, I do miss, I do like, want to be around a, a group more. This year's has been so, it's like-

• 3:05:56Joe Rogan?

  Doing it by yourself, but you are doing it by yourself, right? So you're doing your podcast by yourself, you're doing your stand-up by yourself. The thing about like a club is you're doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves.

• 3:06:07Speaker 00

  Right, so you're around the same like-

• 3:06:09Joe Rogan?

  But you're hanging out, you're having fun, you're, you're charging up your love batteries.

• 3:06:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:06:14Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is, you know?

• 3:06:15Speaker 00

  Oh, the other night, even just being there, being able to laugh with Tony and like, like-

• 3:06:21Speaker 00

  Ron White was right there. You got Brian Simpson, um, you got Kurt Metzger. Everybody's just watching and dancing and figuring things out.

• 3:06:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:06:31Speaker 00

  And then, then the fucking.

• 3:06:32Joe Rogan?

  Every now and then Kurt would corner you with them conspiracies, bro. Did he ever get you? Did he get you?

• 3:06:39Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:06:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he drowned me. He took me in a rabbit hole.

• 3:06:41Speaker 00

  Oh, 12 years a listener, dude.

• 3:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Into the ground.

• 3:06:44Speaker 00

  I got cornered by him.

• 3:06:45Joe Rogan?

  It was an underwater river. He held me under. Bro, he took me to the fucking, I don't, I go Kurt, I don't even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about. You don't know about that? You don't know about that one? He's like, Jesus, Kurt. And he's this giant dude, so he's like looming over you, like with conspiracies in his fucking crazy eyebrows.

• 3:07:09Speaker 00

  He's like, you don't know about the Vanna White conspiracy? You don't know what's behind the E's? You don't know what's behind the E's?

• 3:07:15Joe Rogan?

  Here's the thing, dude, until he started working with Jimmy Dore, he's one of a kind.

• 3:07:18Speaker 00

  Jimmy Dore's cool, huh? I never got to.

• 3:07:20Joe Rogan?

  Jimmy Dore's a man.

• 3:07:20Speaker 00

  I got, I ain't got to see him for years, but I've always been like kind of admirable about him.

• 3:07:24Joe Rogan?

  He's a great dude. He's a great dude. Um, but, uh, before he started working for Jimmy, he didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head.

• 3:07:32Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 3:07:32Joe Rogan?

  You know, it was like, he got sort of exposed to all that working for Jimmy and doing that show. And he was like, oh my God, this whole fucking thing is rigged. And then he'd just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. That dude will send you a text and if you send him a text back, he will send you a chain of thoughts.

• 3:07:51Speaker 00

  Doctrine.

• 3:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like a scroll, like, I want to save them. I want to save them. Because like, that would be a cool, almost like a book to publish.

• 3:08:00Speaker 00

  Oh, it'd be.

• 3:08:01Joe Rogan?

  Text with Kurt.

• 3:08:02Speaker 00

  People would love that, too. I love how passionate he is about stuff. Um.

• 3:08:08Joe Rogan?

  He's a smart dude, man.

• 3:08:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's fun.

• 3:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Very, very, very smart dude.

• 3:08:11Speaker 00

  It was fun. Yeah, that was just fun to see. Who else was there? Just like, um.

• 3:08:15Joe Rogan?

  Brian Simpson, Hassan Ahmad.

• 3:08:17Speaker 00

  Hassan was there.

• 3:08:18Joe Rogan?

  Derek was there.

• 3:08:19Speaker 00

  Derek's the best dude, because you tell any joke, if it's good or not, you can look at Derek and if he's laughing, it's good. He's just like.

• 3:08:25Joe Rogan?

  He's a great green room hang.

• 3:08:26Speaker 00

  Yes, there's no, he, he'll let you know on his face immediately, he's the, to me, he's the be all end all if something's funny.

• 3:08:33Joe Rogan?

  He's a great person. He's like, just a nice guy to be around.

• 3:08:35Speaker 00

  He's a funny.

• 3:08:36Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's like the beautiful thing.

• 3:08:37Speaker 00

  Funny.

• 3:08:38Joe Rogan?

  He is very funny. That's the beautiful thing about the club is that there's so many nice people.

• 3:08:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:08:42Joe Rogan?

  It just, like I said, he charges up your love batteries. It's what we all need in this world. We all need a little more love, a little more fun. And I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people. That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that he just, and I know people around him want him to do that, just concentrate on the positives.

• 3:08:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:08:59Joe Rogan?

  Concentrate on the positives. You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people and then you will be remembered as that guy.

• 3:09:07Speaker 00

  Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on. If they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody would just tell us that.

• 3:09:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think if anybody's gonna, it's him, especially now, and especially with access to podcasts. Right? So if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that, all of a sudden Trump could probably tell you. Whatever, it's not top secret. He could probably tell you. He said he's gonna release the JFK files. We're gonna find out a lot of things. We're gonna find a lot of things. We're gonna find out whether or not he's gonna really keep RFK Junior as a part of his organization or whether he's gonna get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever.

• 3:09:42Speaker 00

  If he loses him, dude, he's gonna, that's not cool.

• 3:09:45Joe Rogan?

  It's not cool. So there's that. And then there's, is he gonna release the JFK files? Cause he was told that he shouldn't release them, that it's, he said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense. Because that was 1963. So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age.

• 3:10:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:10:06Joe Rogan?

  You know, but what does it mean though, when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former, of the president. So if that's true, then would it be that they're worried that it would erode

• 3:10:24Joe Rogan?

  all confidence in the intelligence agencies? Or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place? And then people start saying, well, what happened with Martin Luther King? You know, because there was one that Mike Baker, who's a former CIA guy, was saying that one, like he investigated for a show, he goes, that one doesn't make any sense. That guy just started getting money. He was a loser his whole life. All of a sudden he had money out of nowhere. No, the guy killed them.

• 3:10:47Speaker 00

  Oh, um.

• 3:10:49Speaker 00

  Who was it?

• 3:10:49Joe Rogan?

  James Earl Reeves?

• 3:10:51Speaker 00

  James Earl Ray, maybe?

• 3:10:53Joe Rogan?

  James Earl Ray, James Earl Ray. So that guy, um, Mike Baker broke it down for us. I don't remember exactly, but essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter, was a loser. You know, in and out of jail, that kind of a guy, and then all of a sudden he has access to money. He's standing in a nice place.

• 3:11:07Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:11:08Joe Rogan?

  And he has a gun.

• 3:11:09Speaker 00

  Like, what's going on?

• 3:11:10Joe Rogan?

  Like, he thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King, that someone financed that. Which is most likely, that makes sense.

• 3:11:18Speaker 00

  Well, back then, you could kind of kill somebody and it was, um, easier, you know? Think about like the Wild West, right? Like, they dr- if you killed somebody, they drew a picture of you.

• 3:11:29Joe Rogan?

  Right. Wanted. I have to shave your mustache.

• 3:11:34Speaker 05

  Well, that's on him. I'm looking for a guy with a mustache.

• 3:11:37Speaker 00

  You could become the-

• 3:11:38Speaker 05

  Where'd he go?

• 3:11:40Speaker 00

  You could become-

• 3:11:41Joe Rogan?

  Clark Kent, put on glasses.

• 3:11:43Speaker 05

  Where'd he go? He killed my whole family, where is he? Oh, that guy's got glasses, that can't be him.

• 3:11:50Speaker 00

  Bro, you could literally go across the fucking, behind a boulder. Shave, come back to the town, get a job as a sheriff, and look for yourself for twenty years.

• 3:12:02Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 3:12:04Joe Rogan?

  Bro, imagine how gross it must have been to come to some like, fucking weird-

• 3:12:09Speaker 00

  A brothel back then?

• 3:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Weird brothel town with a saloon. And you just smell like shit. You've been riding on the back of a horse for three days and you just wander into this weird, firelit community.

• 3:12:20Speaker 00

  Ugh.

• 3:12:21Speaker 02

  Did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed? Or not, I don't know how it worked out, but-

• 3:12:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 3:12:28Speaker 02

  He, yeah, you were saying, uh, get a disguise, he changed, he got like a nose job?

• 3:12:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 3:12:34Speaker 02

  But he also got a driver's license, made it to Mexico.

• 3:12:37Speaker 00

  Oh, he's in prison, he used to work at a Kroger's, wow.

• 3:12:39Joe Rogan?

  He attempted to establish himself as a pornographic film director. Using mail order equipment.

• 3:12:46Speaker 00

  Who hasn't, right?

• 3:12:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 3:12:47Speaker 00

  After a quarter of an eight ball, who hasn't?

• 3:12:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you sound, you sound like a fucking psychopath.

• 3:12:52Speaker 02

  He got jilted.

• 3:12:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, he sounds like a bad guy.

• 3:12:54Joe Rogan?

  He considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority regime had unilateral- unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in nineteen sixty-five. Wow.

• 3:13:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, then nose job.

• 3:13:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:13:11Speaker 02

  And then went to Atlanta and then very quickly.

• 3:13:16Speaker 00

  Started popping off?

• 3:13:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, decided to do what he did.

• 3:13:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's tough, man. The heat down there is just fucking ruins everybody.

• 3:13:22Joe Rogan?

  Does drive people nuts, especially if you've got that cat parasite. You know, then they're all moving around your head like, get him out of my brain.

• 3:13:35Speaker 00

  Have you seen, uh, that show From on Amazon Prime?

• 3:13:39Joe Rogan?

  I haven't.

• 3:13:39Speaker 00

  Pretty good.

• 3:13:40Joe Rogan?

  Yo, you know what I've been watching though on Netflix?

• 3:13:42Speaker 00

  What is it?

• 3:13:43Joe Rogan?

  Three Body Problem. Have you seen that?

• 3:13:45Speaker 00

  I haven't seen it. I've been hearing people say it.

• 3:13:46Joe Rogan?

  It's really good. It's by the people who made Game of Thrones.

• 3:13:50Speaker 00

  Oh, really?

• 3:13:50Joe Rogan?

  It's really good, dude. It's totally unique. Like, I don't want to tell you much about it.

• 3:13:56Speaker 00

  You don't say anything.

• 3:13:56Joe Rogan?

  It's a science fiction, but it's totally unique. You watch it and you're gonna go, oh shit. At first you're like, what is going on here?

• 3:14:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:14:04Joe Rogan?

  But after a while you're like, oh shit, I'm on episode four now. Fuck, dude. And there's not gonna be a season two for like three years.

• 3:14:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's how they do some of that shit.

• 3:14:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, like Stranger Things, those motherfuckers are making a movie every week, you know?

• 3:14:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:14:19Joe Rogan?

  They're making a one hour movie every week, which is like so much better than a movie. You know, like Game of Thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed.

• 3:14:30Speaker 00

  Hundred percent.

• 3:14:30Joe Rogan?

  It's so good. And it's just one episode leads into the next one and to the next one. Oh shit, I can't believe she did that. Oh fuck, he's dead now. Oh shit. Off with his head. Fucking, they killed the king in the very first episode.

• 3:14:45Speaker 00

  Unreal.

• 3:14:45Joe Rogan?

  Spoiler alert.

• 3:14:46Speaker 00

  And they handicapped that kid out the gate, remember?

• 3:14:48Joe Rogan?

  Right out the gate. Fuck.

• 3:14:50Speaker 00

  Usually it's the second season before you get a handicapped kid in something. That's what blew my mind.

• 3:14:54Joe Rogan?

  Dude was fucking his sister and he didn't want anybody to know.

• 3:14:58Speaker 00

  That's crazy. But back then, there weren't any rules, were there?

• 3:15:03Joe Rogan?

  I think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that, that's like back to caveman times.

• 3:15:09Speaker 00

  Right, I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like, hey.

• 3:15:12Joe Rogan?

  That's not right.

• 3:15:13Speaker 00

  Let's shut it down, let's go outside instead.

• 3:15:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's like, people always thought about that with rural communities, you know?

• 3:15:20Speaker 00

  Well, people say this a lot. I mean, I'm from, obviously, Louisiana, and people say, you know, they're always like, hey, you're s- you know?

• 3:15:25Joe Rogan?

  You ever fucked your sister?

• 3:15:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. And the thing, what happened was, people didn't live close to each other. So, if you, you're not gonna travel, you're only gonna travel so far to-

• 3:15:38Joe Rogan?

  Are you advocating for fucking sisters?

• 3:15:39Speaker 00

  Fuck, no, I'm not, dude.

• 3:15:41Joe Rogan?

  What are you saying? It seems like that's what you're doing.

• 3:15:42Speaker 00

  No, I'm saying, this is what happened back then. People aren't gonna tra- people aren't gonna get a train ticket to come, you know, they're gonna, people are only gonna have sex within a certain distance of their-

• 3:15:52Joe Rogan?

  Right, good call.

• 3:15:53Speaker 00

  Right, that's why it happened.

• 3:15:54Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:15:55Speaker 00

  You know, it's like, if a guy, it's like-

• 3:15:57Joe Rogan?

  There's no one there.

• 3:15:58Speaker 00

  Right, there's nobody there.

• 3:16:00Joe Rogan?

  So they had to fuck their sister.

• 3:16:01Speaker 00

  They didn't have to, but at a certain point, they got l- lost and ended up back at, right by the house, you know, like, something's gotta happen here. I'm not saying it's cool, I'm just trying to tell you how it works out, like, you know?

• 3:16:15Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's how it certainly works out in the mammal kingdom.

• 3:16:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:16:18Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you have puppies, the boy puppy will fuck his sister.

• 3:16:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:16:22Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent. He doesn't even think twice, he'll try to fuck you. He'll try to fuck your leg, they don't even know what they're doing.

• 3:16:27Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, dude, I stayed at my buddy Brad's house one night, right? We're dead asleep, right? And they let a bunch of puppies loose, dude, those things are fucking gang banging ya.

• 3:16:38Speaker 00

  I didn't have a chance, dude, I didn't have a fucking ounce of milk on me, and those things are fucking sucking me off, bro.

• 3:16:43Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it funny? Like, we accept, we don't think that about people.

• 3:16:47Speaker 00

  Right, the second, it's crazy how it goes from animals to people, man.

• 3:16:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're, we're animals. We're animals.

• 3:16:53Speaker 00

  Do you think there's a certain purpose for us? Like, we, there's a magical purpose for us, or do you think we are just an anomaly?

• 3:16:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think, even if there's not, this is a magical time. It's an interesting time, and especially for people like us. They get to talk to so many fascinating people. I mean, we have a really cool job, not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts, you know? And you've, I think you've got a great education doing that, you know? A great, like, you're, you seem more introspective, you're more curious about things than, you know, I remember before. You're like, I think it did the same thing to me.

• 3:17:28Speaker 00

  Really?

• 3:17:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:17:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I almost feel like I know more. I wish I didn't know more stuff. Sometimes I miss knowing nothing.

• 3:17:33Joe Rogan?

  Right, yeah.

• 3:17:34Speaker 00

  Does that make any sense to you?

• 3:17:35Joe Rogan?

  For sure. I know, I have, my brain is filled with shit that I don't need.

• 3:17:39Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, you're a library, dude. You know?

• 3:17:42Joe Rogan?

  The, the thing-

• 3:17:43Speaker 00

  I'm more like a red box where you rent that one movie.

• 3:17:46Joe Rogan?

  We haven't been doing it as long. I've been doing it a lot longer, that's all it is. It's just, it's the amount I do too. It's numbers.

• 3:17:52Speaker 00

  But you're, you have a, you are, you are a library. You know, there's a certain types of people that can make it through certain things and-

• 3:17:59Joe Rogan?

  You wouldn't want to educate a child on this library. This is not, this is not a library you'd allow everybody to have access to.

• 3:18:06Speaker 00

  No, it's sixteen and older, I think.

• 3:18:07Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of stuff in my head. I was like, God, I wish I didn't know that about people, you know?

• 3:18:13Speaker 00

  Oh, that's interesting. You don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have like a memory that records so much?

• 3:18:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's just, you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people. And so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific, you're always, like, the back of your head always has, but maybe that could happen, you know? Like, so it always sits there. It always sits there. If you're a completely, you grew up Amish or some shit, you're like completely removed from society, you never see any violence, you never see anything. And then all of a sudden, you have to go to a bar, like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night, you see fistfights and people throwing glasses at each other, like, you'd be like, what the fuck is this? I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this, you know?

• 3:18:58Speaker 00

  Right, but if, but if you, but if you know that exists, then it's always a possibility.

• 3:19:02Joe Rogan?

  So if you see it too much, even if you don't see it in real life, the worst thing you see in real life, that's what we were talking earlier about cops. Um, cops are seeing it every day in real life. So you you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead. Super accustomed to seeing people get injured.

• 3:19:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like a hundred and fifty bucks an it's crazy how therapists make like a hundred and fifty dollars an hour, right?

• 3:19:27Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:19:27Speaker 00

  But cops who are basically therapists that also have to shoot at people.

• 3:19:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:19:32Speaker 00

  Make forty bucks an hour.

• 3:19:34Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 3:19:34Speaker 00

  Like, that's crazy, dude, when you think about that.

• 3:19:37Joe Rogan?

  Crazy. And nobody wants that job. It is crazy.

• 3:19:41Speaker 00

  But if you paid them like heroes, I feel like that they would more more fucking gladiators would show up and do it.

• 3:19:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:19:46Speaker 00

  And they would have a real force out there, you know, and you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking care of your fucking community.

• 3:19:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:19:53Speaker 00

  Do you think that's possible or not?

• 3:19:55Joe Rogan?

  People don't wanna know that we need that. They don't wanna kind of believe that you need like masculine, dangerous men to protect you. But that's always been the case. And if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world, it exists. It's there's no utopian spot. So violence and crime exists. There's only one way you can shield the nonviolent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals. And that's dangerous men. You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable. That's what you need. It doesn't mean they should be running everything. It means you need one hundred percent protection from dangerous people. Then, here's the number one thing that nobody addresses. You gotta figure out why

• 3:20:38Joe Rogan?

  are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year being dangerous? Where no one's doing shit about it. No one's trying to fix it. No one's trying to enhance it. No, there's no one's trying to like recognize like, do you know much income we're losing? Cause these people don't grow up to become productive members of society. You know much damage it's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever, drug dealing, any anything that can come out of that? And do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system? And how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society? And it's a success story.

• 3:21:22Joe Rogan?

  The, that's not impossible to do, but there's been no effort, no like engineering, large-scale, national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country. And not like make everything the same and perfect, that's not possible, but there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's unmanageable. You should never be that poor if you're a part of a community.

• 3:21:46Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:21:47Joe Rogan?

  If you're a part of a community that takes care of everybody, there's no reason why you have 175 billion dollars to ship to Ukraine, but you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty in this country.

• 3:21:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, get fucked when that kind of shit happens. They shouldn't be helping these other countries. I don't know why we send money to Israel, Ukraine, I just don't understand why we, there's just people suffering here, you know? There's people that have been taken advantage of in our own country and it's like, you don't want to be selfish, but if you don't take care, if you don't know your inventory, then your business is gonna fail, right?

• 3:22:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:22:17Speaker 00

  That's a, that is, that is a law. If you don't take stock of your own inventory, your business will fail. And we don't have stock of our own inventory and we don't have a healthy inventory, you know, it's like, it's just like, I don't understand how it's so cra- I don't, the weird thing is, I start thinking, is that a radical idea?

• 3:22:34Joe Rogan?

  It didn't used to be a radical idea, but it became a radical idea when people started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil, all capitalism is bad. There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society.

• 3:22:49Speaker 00

  Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.

• 3:22:50Joe Rogan?

  I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're gonna get to some weird point where, um, money seems like it's just ones and zeros, it's just numbers, and it's a bottleneck. The bottleneck of information, right? Because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money, then where's the money go?

• 3:23:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:23:12Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. But if we get to this point where we evolve past the state we're at now, where you can't trust people to not steal your money, where you can't trust people to not lie, where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit. If human beings can eventually get to a place like that, then I could see a time in our Evolved future where we don't need money. Or when everybody has the same amount. Where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods. And constantly acquire status and and and like prestige in the community. Have the bigger house, the bigger. If that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind.

• 3:23:56Joe Rogan?

  I could see where we could equally share resources.

• 3:23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:24:00Joe Rogan?

  But we're that's like either a cyborg or a million years in the future. I'm talking about like where we get past all of our primitive cave people instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything. Is the cause of almost all of our problems.

• 3:24:15Speaker 00

  Is who we are innately?

• 3:24:17Joe Rogan?

  It's just our programming is fucked.

• 3:24:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:24:20Joe Rogan?

  Cause our programming is the same. Well, you know, there's, there's, there's some variations that have cured over time, but reasonably similar, I should say, to people that lived 10,000 years ago. So if you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you, you put him in a T-shirt like this and sat him in the movie theater. You wouldn't be able to tell. It would just look like us.

• 3:24:40Speaker 00

  Nah uh.

• 3:24:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. So.

• 3:24:43Speaker 00

  Really, you think?

• 3:24:44Joe Rogan?

  100% yeah. I mean, they might have been smaller because they didn't give us, give us much food, but it looked like a small person. Yeah.

• 3:24:52Speaker 00

  We wouldn't know.

• 3:24:53Joe Rogan?

  You wouldn't know. They would look just like us. So if you just put them in a suit and tie and sat them down, that guy would be like, what the fuck?

• 3:24:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:25:00Joe Rogan?

  And that's basically us. So that person, if you, you got a person lives 10,000 years ago. The amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time he becomes an adult. The amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seen people lit on fire. That's all inside of us still.

• 3:25:20Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:25:20Joe Rogan?

  All that programming of like everybody's the, the enemy and you gotta protect the fields and protect the. That is all a part of our programming and as technology increases and as we become more interconnected. That's going to be one of the biggest problems that we face is abandoning these bizarre primate characteristics. That we still hold on to. Cause they're in our DNA and they're not managed well. Like people need to manage them to suppress them and some people.

• 3:25:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, we try to pretend it don't exist. We try to pretend they don't exist. Sorry if I stepped on you.

• 3:25:55Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no.

• 3:25:56Speaker 00

  Have I been interrupting you a lot, man? I'm sorry, dude.

• 3:25:58Joe Rogan?

  No, you're awesome, man. What are you doing? Stop doing that. Don't apologize.

• 3:26:00Speaker 00

  I just have that piece of it, my kidneys are starting to think.

• 3:26:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's wrap it up. We've been doing this for three hours.

• 3:26:03Speaker 00

  Have we really?

• 3:26:04Joe Rogan?

  At least. Yeah, it's almost five. It's almost five.

• 3:26:06Speaker 00

  Oh, man.

• 3:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man, I love you. I know I'm always trying to get you to move here, but it's because I think you'd be happier here. And selfishly, I want you around.

• 3:26:13Speaker 00

  Well, thank you, dude. I appreciate it. No, I want to be around. This year's just been, it's just been, uh, it's been like every time I'm not doing a podcast, I have to like, I'm traveling for work or it's like, it's just been a busy time, you know?

• 3:26:25Joe Rogan?

  Hey, if we open up another mothership, do you think Nashville would be a good spot?

• 3:26:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:26:29Joe Rogan?

  Is there enough, or would we be fucking with Zany's, or you think we would help it?

• 3:26:32Speaker 00

  No, I think it would be good because I think there's enough people there where you could do it well.

• 3:26:36Joe Rogan?

  Do you have enough comics in Nashville? How many comics are in Nashville?

• 3:26:41Speaker 00

  There's some.

• 3:26:42Joe Rogan?

  You gotta have like a base, you know, like that want to perform all the time.

• 3:26:45Speaker 00

  Right. I'll do some recon for you.

• 3:26:48Joe Rogan?

  We're thinking. We're thinking of going to other spots.

• 3:26:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:26:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:26:51Speaker 00

  Well, that would be cool, man, because at least I know the area. I could, I'd be, you know?

• 3:26:54Joe Rogan?

  I thought about going to the most woke place in Brooklyn, setting up shop.

• 3:27:01Speaker 00

  The mother, if we get...

• 3:27:04Speaker 00

  I bet it would thrive, though.

• 3:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, we can find out.

• 3:27:08Speaker 00

  There's only one way to do it, dude. Wow, man. I can't believe, it's so crazy that I was there to watch the, just like the, just like what a night and it was like...

• 3:27:17Joe Rogan?

  It was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room. We're all hopping back and forth off stage, like, who's winning?

• 3:27:24Speaker 00

  I know.

• 3:27:25Joe Rogan?

  It was fun, man.

• 3:27:26Speaker 00

  It was so crazy, dude. Drinking Diet Cokes and just fucking having a good time.

• 3:27:31Joe Rogan?

  Theo Von, I love you to death. You're one of my favorite people. I appreciate you very much.

• 3:27:35Speaker 00

  I love you too, man. Thanks for being inspiring and thanks for, um, yeah, sometimes you would like, I would do a podcast episode and you would just say, you would reach out and say, "Hey, man, uh, I liked that episode," and it just meant a lot. I just want to let you know that.

• 3:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, it does. You do a great job, man. I really love your show. I think you, you got some great interviews and you got a great, you got a nice way of being yourself, you know, when you're talking to anybody. And that's what I think people really like. They like to see conversations where people are just being themselves. And the fact that you could do that with Trump, that's fun. It's inspiring. So it's, it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it.

• 3:28:07Speaker 00

  Well, thanks. Thanks, man. Yeah, I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire, like, uh... Says something nice to them, you know, it's just nature.

• 3:28:16Joe Rogan?

  It is, yeah, yeah, we like it.

• 3:28:17Speaker 00

  But I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me, dude.

• 3:28:19Joe Rogan?

  My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody.

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