#607 Pay Me In Bitcoin - Saquon Barkley and Jack Mallers

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• 0:02Anthony Pompliano?

  What's up everyone, this is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp Podcast, simply the best podcast out there. Now let's kick this thing off. Jack Mahlers is the founder of Zap, which has created Strike, an application that allows anyone to send money instantly with no fees anywhere in the world. Saquon Barkley is the best running back in the National Football League and he plays for the New York Giants. In this conversation, we discuss Saquon being paid in Bitcoin, financial education, Strike, inflation, and building generational wealth. I really enjoyed the conversation with Jack and Saquon, and I hope you do as well. Before we get into this episode, though, I want to

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• 2:51Anthony Pompliano?

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• 3:33Speaker 01

  Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guests as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

• 3:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Hey guys, what's going on? Jack, Saquon, you guys hear us? What's up? How much? Jack, you got us?

• 4:04Speaker 02

  I'm here, baby. I'm here and more than, more than ready. Let's go.

• 4:08Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. Saquon, you, you need to get a background like Jack. We gotta get you go in the closet or something so that you could sit there with no clothes in the closet like Jack.

• 4:19Speaker 03

  No, I gotta, I gotta switch it up. Jack, I got that same hat, by the way.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I know. We did, we did a little co-shopping in Beverly Hills not too long ago. We got a lot of the same stuff.

• 4:32Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So Saquon, let's start with you first, just in terms of, hope people understand when you came out of college, it was pretty well known that you were going to be, you know, selected very high. Everyone knew, hey, this guy's for real on the field. But I think you've always had this interest in kind of business and investing and really trying to understand stuff off the field as well. How much, what I'll call like traditional education, either the NFL or other people really provided versus have you had to figure out some of this stuff on your own?

• 4:59Speaker 03

  Well, you kind of know in and out, but I think I got the gist of the question. When you first come out the league, I mean, well, let's start in college, you know, you have success. You see where you're able to go on the draft board and you know that you could break that, that curse in your family of creating wealth in your family. And you start thinking, what can I do? What's the safest way? You know, obviously I want to be more than a football player. So you start asking questions. Obviously you hire a financial advisor. To be completely honest, you know, had no clue about what I was going to do or things that I can do when I got to NFL to, to help my money grow and to invest.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  And I was very fortunate enough to find an amazing team, a go on an amazing manager who put me in the right positions and put me in contact with guys like you and Jack and to be able to have those conversations, continue to learn. And, you know, NFLPA, they do a little bit of stuff when you're in NFL, when you come into college, they're like, there's like a seminar when you have, you have, and they bring ex-players and they bring people in to talk. But you really just learn about what not to do with your money.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  Don't buy these cars, don't buy this house, don't do this, don't do that. It's basically just scaring you to saying like, damn, like, the realization that, yes, you may have a lot of money, but, um, especially after taxes, um, it's really not as much of the same and you want to find the best way to, to save. And that was the, the, the, the gist of what I was, what I was taught and, um, what I've learned so far, coming in, uh, coming out of NFL and into my rookie year and so on.

• 6:40Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. And so, uh, I know you've got this interest in kind of investing in, uh, in private companies now. Uh, talk a little bit just about like why you're personally interested in that and kind of what have you done, uh, in that space?

• 6:52Speaker 03

  Um, you know, you see the, the KDs, the, the LeBrons, um, the Brady's of the world. Um, and you know, you want to create generational wealth, um, and you, you can't do that just off of, um, you know, especially in a sport that I play and a position I play and coming off an injury, um, you know, that, that's kind of stuff that, that kind of makes more sense, uh, when you sit out of football for a whole year, you realize that this game could be taken away from you and make you sit back and think, damn, if I'd never played down a football right now, this is how much I have. And, um, that's not enough for generational wealth. So you got to find ways to invest, find ways, um, to put yourself in the other right positions and then contact with the right people, um, to help your money grow in, in a smart way and, and, and do it the right way.

• 7:36Anthony Pompliano?

  Got it. And so I know that, uh, you've got some news for us today. Uh, we've been talking a lot about kind of Bitcoin cryptocurrencies. I know that you spent a bunch of time with Jack. Uh, talk a little bit about, uh, just how you see Bitcoin, um, you know, why, uh, you, you spent so much time learning about it? And then kind of what your future plans are?

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Well, obviously you see inflation, um, you know, you see how, how, how high it is right now. And, and you learn that you can't save your, save yourself to wealth. You can't. Um, so that's why, uh, I mean, I had a little conversation with Jack. One, Jack, this guy is going to change the world, by the way, but we'll hop on that a little later. It's a special dude. But that's why I would be taking my marketing money, um, in Bitcoin.

• 8:19Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So hold on here. This is important. You're going to be taking a hundred percent of your marketing dollars, which is, by the way, you're like a, a well-known dude. Uh, people like you, brands like you, you do a great job on the marketing side, uh, and you make, you know, eight plus figures, uh, in terms of marketing dollars. You're going to take a hundred percent of that in Bitcoin and specifically try to, uh, insulate yourself from all of the inflation and the issues with cash.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm gonna do that, especially through Strike also too. Um, I feel like, uh, that was my mind, that was my motto before coming into the league is, you know, just live on my marketing money. Um, and now that I see with inflation and learning so much about Bitcoin, surrounding myself with a great team and then being able to learn, uh, from guys like Jack. Um, so I think it's just be the smart thing to do and the right thing to do to start taking my investment money through Bitcoin and through, uh, uh, through Strike.

• 9:09Anthony Pompliano?

  I, uh, I tend to think that this is probably a pretty good idea. Jack, talk to us a little bit. I know that you spent a bunch of time with Saquon. Uh, just the conversations you guys have had, what the thought process here is, and then how Strike works in terms of helping him take a hundred percent of his marketing dollars in Bitcoin moving forward.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, you know, I'm here, compliments right back at Saquon. He's obviously a tremendous football player, but I hope that the world gets to see the individual he is. He's a leader. Uh, he's a trend setter and, uh, this is a huge move that he's making and he's setting an example, not only for himself, his family, his team, but I think for the wider NFL and I think for all millennials our age. Uh, the problem that Saquon's facing is a problem everyone faces is that non-working capital, capital that you want to save, capital that isn't required to spend on your day-to-day life, which is rent, which is your phone bill, which is groceries. Capital that you want to turn into generational wealth, that you want to eventually turn into a house or to a car, but you can't save it in cash anymore. And the inflation problem that Saquon's hinting at is extraordinarily real.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  And so then, you know, instead of asking, why would I buy Bitcoin? Well, where do I put my cash? Is the more accurate question to ask. And, you know, Saquon went through this journey on his own and everyone's doing it currently. It's, I don't know, you can try commercial real estate, you can try precious metals. And it turns out Bitcoin is the first asset class that humanity designed from scratch with our bare hands. And we as a community built it to solve this exact problem. And Saquon became very familiar with the problem set, the solution. Uh, and Strike as a company, we strive to develop the best financial experience on the planet. And I think a core nucleus of that is access to Bitcoin in this way. You should be get rewards in Bitcoin. You should be able to buy Bitcoin for as cheap as possible. You should be able to take your direct deposit, your everyday paycheck, uh, as the wage that you're earning.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  By dedicating your life to your craft and split a certain portion that you want to save and persist and grow wealth and protect against inflation. That's exactly what Saquon did. I mean, we had conversations about, you know, the guy's making eight figures plus annually in off the field in marketing deals and brand deals. And this is capital that he wants his kids to use, his kids have access to, buy a big house with. And we talked about how, you know, inflation in housing has reached over 20% right now. And so that annually compounding year over year, that means that his dream house is going to be twice as expensive in five years. Or his cash that he's saving this marketing deals is going to be worth half as less.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  And he has to start saving that wealth in something else if he wants his dreams, his house or his daughter's tuition. Or the toys that she wants for Christmas. If he wants those things to be attainable and achievable, he needs to save in something else. And he decided on Bitcoin. We're more than happy to support him in that effort.

• 11:48Anthony Pompliano?

  Absolutely. And so Saquon, when you think about this, how much of a conversation is Bitcoin cryptocurrencies and stuff like that in the NFL, other players talking about it? And what do you expect to be kind of the impact of you making a decision like this? Is this now multiple other people on the team may do it? Or just kind of, how do you think about the other players in the league?

• 12:08Speaker 03

  Um, I think this is a conversation that's, I don't think I know some conversation that's me had in locker room. But I think it just starts with just learning. And I'm still learning and you guys still learn, you guys still understand. I think Jax did an amazing job of describing it. And obviously you guys know cuz that's kind of where it came into. I saw it. I was like, what is this? And you know, he kind of, you know, we kind of got into the conversations of it and talked about it. Then I got to be surrounded by a lot more people that knew much more about it than myself. I think there's got to be ways that we could continue to just educate, educate, just not just only athletes, but just the world. Uh, on Bitcoin and what's really going on and what's the problem in the world and how Bitcoin can really help.

• 12:49Anthony Pompliano?

  Absolutely. Jack, explain exactly how this works in terms of, does Saquon have to go and renegotiate his contracts? Or like, how does it go from, he's got these marketing contracts and endorsement deals? How does he actually get the Bitcoin? How does strike work?

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is a product that we're developing and deploying actively over the next thirty to sixty days to every consumer in the United States. And that's that you can line up your direct deposit product, just like you do to Chime, just like you do to Venmo, just like you could to Cash App, and you can divide a percent. Hey, of this paycheck, I want fifty percent of it in Bitcoin. I want seventy-five percent. I want twenty-five percent of it in Bitcoin. And the mental model that every American should deploy and everyone in the world is, listen, I can't save in cash. So, listen, you don't like Bitcoin? Fine. I could talk to you about it for hours, but put in something else. Put in something else. You have to. It's trending on Twitter right now, right? And so the product is very simple. It gives you direct access from your paycheck to saving and preserving and what I hold personally and our company holds is the best savings

• 13:46Speaker 02

  technology of all time. And being able to build a product for someone like Saquon, I mean, Saquon's job is to be a running back. You know, Saquon's job is not to understand public key, private key cryptography. It's my job. And giving him access to a product that allows him financial sovereignty, financial independence, and an ability to grow and preserve his wealth. And you know, Saquon's permission, profession, coming off an injury in the average NFL career is three and a half years. I don't care what you do, that is not enough time in any profession to build generational wealth, period. And giving guys like him, he deserves it. Every American deserves it. It's a foundational human right to have access to sound money materials to live a high quality of life. And that's what we want to do. And I'm proud

• 14:31Speaker 02

  of Saquon for this move. I mean, it's a really brave thing for him to do. And I think he's setting a huge example on a big stage, obviously.

• 14:37Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, I completely agree. All right, I got one last question. I'm gonna turn over my brother's. It's a more fun one. It's a two-part question for Jack and Saquon. If Jack and Saquon play one-on-one basketball right now, who wins?

• 14:49Speaker 02

  Me.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  That's, that is, that is so, that is so wrong.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  It wouldn't even be close, Pom. It wouldn't even be close.

• 14:56Speaker 03

  We've had this conversation before. One, I would just use my size. And two, He's not fast enough or strong enough to stay in front of me. I don't even know if he can touch the rim. So I like, I like my chances there.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  What, what people don't know, Pomp, is if I were 6'4", there would be no strike. I'd be in the league. And so, you know, that was just, you know, the, the mother nature's way of ensuring that Bitcoin progressed in the way it did by keeping me 5'8" and 150 pounds. Um, but I still think I could beat Saquon 101 and uh,

• 15:29Speaker 03

  Who do you play like again? Who you try to tell me what your game like?

• 15:33Speaker 02

  I'm like Steph Curry. You play like uh Glenn Big Baby Davis. I'm like Steph Curry.

• 15:41Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, all right. Second part of the question is if Jack and Saquon sit down and play chess, who wins?

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Uh, him. I came, I found out he was like some chess master before, like state champion of high school. So, um, don't, don't let him trick you in into playing a game for sharing your money on strike. He's gonna take all of it.

• 16:00Anthony Pompliano?

  Saquon, uh, we, we heard a story that somebody said to Jack that they were a chess master and Jack was like, oh, you're a chess master? They were like, yeah. He goes, all right, cool. Pawn E4. What's your move?

• 16:12Anthony Pompliano?

  Like, we don't even need a board. We're just gonna, we're just gonna talk it out right here.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:16Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. Uh, Joe, John, what questions you guys got? Um, Saquon, thanks for doing this first off and congratulations. Um, they're already, they're already saying in the comments that they're gonna pick you number one overall in fantasy this year. So.

• 16:31Anthony Pompliano?

  So, so there you go. Uh, but I, I think my question is probably a little bit off of what you were talking about earlier, which is what's going on in NFL locker rooms, right? And I think, uh, when you look back to like the eighties and the nineties in professional sports, a lot of the conversation was about athletes going broke and not thinking about generational wealth and how to build wealth and investments and stuff like that. And personally, I feel like that's kind of changed more recently, right? And you, you see, uh, you know, we, we've gone out to dinner with you and other guys and it's kind of more conversations around investments and stuff like that. And I'm curious, has that been your personal experience? You know, when you're talking to other professional athletes, whether it's in the NFL or the NBA or other leagues around the world, uh, are people more concerned about this stuff? Are they more interested in it? Like, how's your feeling about that?

• 17:12Speaker 03

  I would agree. I would say that they're definitely more interested in it and that's the conversation that would be had in the locker room. But I would say kind of picking back on what I said before, it's the educational part of it that I see that lacks and including myself. That's why when I'm with you guys or I'm sitting down eating dinner, I try to ask so many questions because not only I'm going to learn from myself, when I'm able to go back to the locker room, I can explain it. I can explain it the right way to my teammates and you know, your teammates is people that's going to be some of your best friends for life, people that's going to be at your weddings, you know, brothers for life. That's what they like to call it in football. So you want to see them to see too. And the things that I can learn and then things I can educate myself on, go there and have the conversation. And I'm a big believer in playing devil advocate and maybe someone disagreed, maybe someone agreed,

• 17:57Speaker 03

  but having those conversations and seeing both sides, you'll be able to hear both sides and get somewhere in your mindset where he's like, all right, even if I didn't agree with this, so I don't believe it's going to be that way. This guy had, you know, educational background behind it or he said some, some critical things that made me think and have a different kind of thought process on this conversation. So I would say education is the big thing that that continues to have in the locker room. And like I said, I'll be the first one to say I got to continue to learn more about it. But I think we can find more, more avenues and more ways to, to, to help expand that. For sure. John, what do you got?

• 18:32Speaker 04

  What's up, Saquon? Jack, congrats again. So one of the things I wanted to ask was about just like your investments and what you've been looking at. You mentioned talking with Jack about how you invested with him and also I believe you've done some stuff in like the sports industry. It seems like you're really open to doing anything, which is great. So you're outside of just like the sports realm. And I think guys like that, when they go to KD, the LeBrons, they know that they're open. So LeBron's got the Spring Hill, KD's got Boardroom Ventures, everything like that. What are you, what are you looking at investment wise?

• 19:05Speaker 03

  Um, tho- those are the things that, wh- what I kinda wanna go to now, um, is become more than an athlete. Uh, you, obviously you have your, your, your big deals and you know, I'm very fortunate to, to be able to work with a big company like Nikes and such like that, um, but we wanna find a way to, to get into deals where you can use your brand to help promote it, um, but also help build that brand as you help build that brand, you're building yourself also um, outside of football, um, and those kinda things that I'm looking into and yes, I'm open to anything, but uh, that's very, another thing I would say that, that is, that happens in locker rooms and with athletes, um, there's a lot of things that's thrown at you, it's a lot of things that's thrown at you, um, a lot of investment opportunities, uh, equity and all that,

• 19:49Speaker 03

  but you gotta, you gotta have the right team around you, um, like I said, like Jack said, my job is to be a professional football player and, and be a dad, um, so I, I don't really have that time as much as I would like, so I, I've have an amazing team behind me that we go through every investment, every deal and, and, and really thoroughly think through it and um, we see what we think is the best opportunity for me.

• 20:11Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, I'm sure coming, coming into the league, there's, uh, everyone and, and their mothers got an idea of where to put your cash, what to invest in.

• 20:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:19Anthony Pompliano?

  Uh, Saquon, you're an investor in Strike, right?

• 20:23Speaker 03

  Yes, sir.

• 20:24Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, obviously we both think very highly of, of Jack. What is the, the thing that you think, uh, most impressed you about him? And we're gonna embarrass him a little bit here, but what, what was the thing that kinda caught your attention?

• 20:35Speaker 03

  It's his heart, um, to be completely honest, um, he, he's not in it for, uh, to, to make a lot of money or, or be famous. He, he really wanna make an impact and really change the world, um, you can see that the, the way he's, the way he talks and the conversation you have with him, you can see how passionate he is, um, and, and, and those are things that, you know, a- a- as just a human being, you love to see another human being. Um, so I would say those, that's probably the biggest thing, it's his heart, how passionate he is and this, this man really wanna change the world and he's going to change the world.

• 21:04Anthony Pompliano?

  I tend to agree. We're gonna get them a different kind of background there, but that's fine. Jack, are there lots of athletes that are reaching out to you, musicians, artists, like folks that have high income and high salaries that are worried about inflation, that are trying to figure out what Russell O'Conne or Saquon is doing here? Or kind of what are you seeing in that front?

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, everywhere. Not only athletes, but musicians, actors. You know what I think is really unique, Pom, and I've heard you, I don't know, can I call you Pom? Because there's a lot of Poms here.

• 21:39Anthony Pompliano?

  As long as you don't call me an asshole, that's fine, we're good.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  I won't call you an asshole, for this from. No, but I've heard you say before, which is a really interesting point that you make, and it's true, that you can't build wealth as an employee. You've said that before, is you gotta own equity, you gotta own an asset. If you want to grow well, you can't be working paycheck to paycheck. Now, that's true, except maybe Saquon Barkley, he's a very valuable employee, he makes a great living, right? And you can argue that, well, Saquon runs his own independent business, right? And athletes are independent businesses, actors, actresses, musicians. But generally speaking, what I'm trying to get at is you have these employees, Saquon's an employee in the New York Giants, and they pay him handsomely, and he's got making tens of millions

• 22:23Speaker 02

  of dollars off the field as well. But point being, that he's still is subject to getting a paycheck, that his employment is priced in dollars, so Saquon's signing a contract that lasts X amount of time, priced in dollars. And if you price in inflation, and you price in taxes, he's actually losing like 30 to 70% of that money by the completion of his contract, right? And so then he's got all these commercial real estate agents, these club promoters, his family telling him what cars to buy, what things to invest in. And I have the opinion that these people are relatively abused by their employer, and by the people around them, that they're taken advantage of, and that they are one of the only rare employees in America that can potentially build generational wealth, build

• 23:06Speaker 02

  an independent business, build an independent brand, leave a legacy, like Saquon's worked his whole life for. And that people are getting in the way of that, and that the NFL and a lot of his counterparts aren't tremendously honest, and potentially misleading to him. And I think it's a real problem. And so I think a lot of the people contacting me that is in the NFL, in the NBA, in Hollywood. Are starting to realize that, starting to realize like, hey, I'm making hit after hit after hit. I'm number one on the billboard every week, but somehow after taxes, after inflation, after I listen to my cousin, after I pay 20% off the top to my commercial real estate broker, I don't have anything left. That's bullshit. Sorry, am I allowed to curse? It's like, what the fuck is that?

• 23:48Speaker 02

  I thought it was that if I, if I make hit after hit, or I score touchdown after touchdown, I work my ass off. I act like a good citizen, a good man, uh, that I, that, that this isn't how it works. Um, and I think everyone is starting to open their eyes to that. And, you know, the craze of Robin Hood and now Bitcoin is this is a press, the, the Federal Reserve has perverted risk tolerance across all assets. No one knows what anything's worth anymore because no one knows how to value a dollar. They're more printed by as the seconds that go by. So all that to say, I think every American, everyone in the world faces this problem from a high level. And I think folks like Saquon have a very unique, uh, visibility into it because they are high profile employees

• 24:29Speaker 02

  that do make a large wage of living, uh, and there's a lot of opinions in their ear. Uh, and I think Bitcoin is the most accessible way to defend against inflation. It's the most accessible way to protect and preserve wealth. It's one that you can do independently. You don't have to give a real estate broker any percentage of it. We don't need you guys anymore. Saquon can line up his direct deposit, toggle how much he wants to save and preserve for his daughter, and then go fucking run a linebacker over. He doesn't have to worry about anything else. And that's what it's all about.

• 24:58Anthony Pompliano?

  I completely agree. Before I let both of you go, uh, Saquon, the most important question we have today. The Giants gonna win a Super Bowl? Are we gonna win a Super Bowl this year?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  Um, you know, that's, that's the goal. That's every team's goal is to come out there and compete for a championship. But it starts with, we start camping two weeks or, uh, a week and a half or so. Um, and it starts there. You gotta come there with the right mindset, believe in each other, believe in the coaches, um, and take it day by day and, and, and see where it goes from there.

• 25:27Anthony Pompliano?

  You, you didn't see this because you're, uh, only on, uh, on Zoom, but, uh, we pulled up Saquon Barkley and there was a lot before, and we were looking at what we should put underneath that. And at first we had running back. We made an audible. We said, no, you gotta put the true title. We said the best running back in the NFL. So that's exactly what the title is. So we figured that now that you're coming back from the injury, you're gonna, you're gonna prove us right. So we're super excited about watching you guys play this year and obviously very excited about the investment in, in strike and, and you know, kind of being co-investors there. But I think just from our side, it's just congratulations. You know, this is obviously a huge decision on your part. We tend to think that this is a very smart decision

• 26:07Anthony Pompliano?

  and likely history will be very kind to you, but it takes real courage to kind of take a step like this. And I think people will, you know, not appreciate it until a couple of years from now, but it's pretty cool to see. So congrats again on, on making this decision.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Yes, sir. Thank you. I appreciate that.

• 26:25Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, Jack. We'll talk soon, my friend.

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Yes, sir. Yeah. And I want to say Saquon, man, congrats. I, I, again, I spent some time pomp with him recently, a few weeks ago. People don't understand the diligent work that goes into coming back from an injury like that and then putting yourself again in front of 300 pound professional athletes to get hit one more time. Puts a lot of work that and then also has the time and peace of mind to put his daughter and his family in a tremendous financial position. So Saquon, dude, you're a superstar. You deserve all the credit in the world and you're setting a great example for others to come. So, congrats, dude.

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Much love. Thanks, brother.

• 27:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Jack, I love you. Saquon's whooping your ass in basketball. All right, guys, we'll see you later.

• 27:09Anthony Pompliano?

  All right.