Trump DEFENDS Musk, Putin Requests Meeting, Netanyahu To Occupy Gaza & Stern CANCELLED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 626

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump defending Elon Musk, Putin requesting a meeting to discuss ending the Ukraine war, Netanyahu’s plan to occupy Gaza, and the cancellation of The Howard Stern Show. ------ 💻 REGISTER FOR PBD'S FREE WEBINAR: "20 THREATS BUSINESSES CAN'T IGNORE IN 2025" | AUGUST 16TH @ 6PM | REGISTER: https://bit.ly/3V0dvSu ☀️ VT FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT SUMMER COLLECTION: ⁠https://bit.ly/4lcDlwU⁠ https://bit.ly/4lcDlwU 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/40lR90L 📕PRE-ORDER SCOTT'S BOOK "A REVOLUTION OF COMMON SENSE": ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3UzdC73⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3UzdC73 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:31Speaker 01

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• 0:58Patrick Bet-David?

  We're ready. Rob, I want to send this to you.

• 1:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, also Putin and Trump meeting. I have a video of Putin being asked, "Who called for the meeting?" And he refused.

• 2:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, so guys, if you're tuning in with us, episode number, what number are we on right now? Six? Six twenty-six. Six twenty-six. Adams made a request for us to move the podcast to Vegas. I'm not with him. Nah, I can't do it. I can't do it. Last night, we're at the awards ceremony, PHB, you know, we're at MGM Grand, the place is off the charts. Ray Lewis crushed it. Coach K told a story that I have to share with you guys. Shout out to Coach K. I don't know if you know what story I'm talking about, the bus story. I have to tell that story. And we're there nearly, it's probably our second best big event we ever had. The best one, I would say, was the one with Kobe. The late Kobe, President Bush, you know, all that, that event that we had. But this is what everybody looked like last night. Look at this, Rob. Can you pull up this picture?

• 3:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Ladies, be careful. No, I'm just telling you. Look at these studs. Look at the stud in the middle, Dilly Boy. This is, Dylan, Dylan's got the look where it's like, ladies, I've graduated. I now know what I'm doing. Tico looks like he's connected to the mob with his hairdo. By the way, daddy did that hair. If you can zoom in a little bit. Great hairdo, Tico. Look at Tico, bro. That right there, Tom, to the right, and then we have who? Vinny looking like a... Sex machine. Absolutely. And then...

• 3:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Zoom out a little bit. Zoom out, zoom out, zoom out. Don't get me some of that. Look at my tail. Tail and the pink shirts. And Adam looks like he's fifteen years away from sixty. That's what it looks like. Well, we had a good time. And we got a lot of stories to go through. Some bad news for Howard Stern. I don't know if you guys heard that, you know, the show... The future doesn't look bright for him. No, it's tough. ESPN is inking a deal with NFL to acquire NFL Network, Red Zone Channel, and there is equity in exchange? It's a very interesting thing that's going on here on how they're doing it, the ten percent deal. Tom is gonna break the whole thing down for you guys. An almost tragic story where a sergeant shoots five soldiers in his unit at Fort Stewart

• 4:29Patrick Bet-David?

  before getting stopped. The five folks got injured, but I don't think anybody died. Correct, let's hope. Yeah, as of right now, everything seems to be fine, but we'll talk about that. Trump threatens to federalize DC after attack on Doge staffer. Now, a lot of people don't want that on the liberal side, and you have to realize, DC mayor since 1974, 100% of all the mayors they've had have all been Democrats. You've had some 51 years to fix the city. You haven't. The president's finally putting his foot down and saying, "We're gonna do something about it." So, maybe there's gonna be an opening there. Adam's guy who used to party with back in the days just broke a story yesterday. Hunter Biden claims Epstein My boy!

• 5:12Patrick Bet-David?

  was murdered in latest unhinged interview. He's doing a lot of unhinged interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix or somebody signs a contract with him to do a podcast, because he says some weird stuff and he gets eyeballs. Murdoch to provide health updates in Trump's deal to delay Epstein case deposition. Trump says he will probably not seek a third term yet, because he gives two names of who he thinks could be president. US trade deficit hits nearly a two-year low in June. Chip gap plunges. New Hampshire first new state. We didn't talk about that. This time, we're gonna get into it. The 996 work schedule could be coming to your workspace, workplace soon. The 996 is working from 9 to 9, 6 days a

• 5:55Patrick Bet-David?

  week. And some people are worried about it. That's a Forbes story that turns into a liberal magazine nowadays. It used to be capitalist magazine. Now, it's the worst place to go if you're an entrepreneur, in my opinion. And China's mouthpiece. That's right. We're gonna talk about Jack. By the way, the new guy that bought it, he bought 75% of it at $800 million, and he's a billionaire here, so he bought it away from China. So, I don't think China owns it anymore like they did before, although they probably have some influence. India, Indian component, components found in Russian drones, used for Putin's war. We'll talk about that. Trump moves a nuclear, we didn't react to it last time. Netanyahu. Believes occupying Gaza is the only way to save the hostages. But it'll also start bloodiest phase of the year.

• 6:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yet experts warn. Vinnie's favorite story, so we'll definitely go to that. Global outbreak. Fear surge as virus in China prompts quarantines. And thousands of new cases are reported. And Anthony Fauci may be making a comeback. That last part's not part of the story, but who knows? You never know. Hawk Hogan's daughter sparks conspiracy. Theories over her father's death. As friend cries foul play, meaning maybe the current wife is involved is what they're saying. Elon Musk is officially the most unpopular figure. In America, who was the other guy number two? I don't want to say we'll get to it, but he's the most unpopular. Figure in America and they asked President Trump about it and he has actually very. Nice things to say about it. Trump closes a.

• 7:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Additional $100 billion with Apple for a total of $600 billion. Kennedy cancels nearly $500 million in mRNA vaccine contract. Stress adults, folks, I swear to God. If you're one of these stressed adults that watches this podcast, go home. Go watch something else. I'm begging you. If this story is true. And you're watching this right now with a Soska in your mouth. Some of you guys don't know what Soska is.

• 7:49Adam Sosnick?

  Soska.

• 7:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Soska is. If you're Armenian, if you're Russian, please in the comment section, tell everybody what Soska means. You know what a Soska means. Kaiser Soska? No, this is a very different Soska.

• 7:59Adam Sosnick?

  No.

• 7:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Stressed adults. Rely on pacifiers. AKA Soska's. To soothe themselves. I feel a sense of safety from childhood. Are you free? Is this like a Rob? I'm like, this is not a Babylon B or an onion story. This is a New York Post story. Adults are going around with Soska's. Rob, take your Soska out of your mouth. That is ridiculous. Trump plans to sit down with Putin and Zelensky in the first meeting between leaders. Since Ukraine war began, Putin was asked, who prompted the meeting? You have to see the answer. Very interesting. And by the way, some sad news for MSNBC and CNN listeners and viewers. They lost 40% of viewers compared to last year. Heartbreaking, we were concerned about it, but we just kind of wanted to give them a shout out.

• 8:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So I think, you know, some people should go support him. There's nothing wrong with that. You should go out and watch some of that. By the way, I still think when Jennings is on, I want to hear what he has to say. And then Vinnie. Sees a video with these three African-American kids in Dallas, Walgreens, Jeez. With the way they're behaving. I'm gonna show you guys a video from 1986 with their interview on black mothers. And you have to see what the stats was back then. And this is the whole idea of what bad policies destroy great communities in a major, major way. We'll show you that clip. I can't wait to share that clip with you because I think it's unbelievable. Anyways, having said that, every year, folks, there's threats. When you're in business, when you're building your business, whatever you're doing.

• 9:29Patrick Bet-David?

  This year, we are releasing our annual top 20 threat report coming up at a free webinar on August 19, 6pm with a white paper that will be given to everybody. These are threats that we personally go through ourselves. We now have grown our business the last couple of years from 20 employees, 30 employees to 964 full-time employees. This is not ICs, this is not independent contractors. I'm talking that's on the value-tainment side and then on the PhD side, we're dealing with a completely different threat. So we're simply taking all of those threats and we're sharing it with you to be ready with it. Some of it is evergreen threats, some of it is emergent green, some of it is black swan threats, but it's things that you need to know about. So if you haven't yet registered for this, I think I'm saying this for the first time

• 10:13Patrick Bet-David?

  today, but maybe you've seen some of the ads all the places. Go to VTwebinar.com, again VTwebinar.com, sign up for it. Anybody that's on there, at the end of it, we will, we will give the white paper of the 20 threats to all of you. You can go to VTwebinar.com, register for it, and we'll share it with you. Tons of great information, be ready, tune in. Thank you, Tom. Having said that, let me share with you guys what Coach K said last night. I think it's important for everybody to be thinking about this. Last night, as a consultant, I'm giving this message to everybody. And I was thinking about the entire time, what should I share? So I gave 150 pictures over the years of what we've done.

• 10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And I found one of Tom's favorite pictures. I'm telling history, stuff that we've done, we're laughing, we're going through, it's a great story. But one of the things was that all of us in life, yesterday, we're having breakfast, the conversation we have with Adam, I don't know if you remember that conversation. I do remember that conversation, sir. Yeah, incredible conversation we had is, how do you measure a man? Like what is a man? If I ask you what is a man? Not the chromosome man, not the funny stuff that we're talking about.

• 11:22Adam Sosnick?

  What is a woman?

• 11:22Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm not talking about that game. I'm talking about what? How do you measure a man? Wouldn't you look at a man and say, man, that's a man's man? What does a man's man need to do to be a man? There's levels in life, there's levels in wealth, there's levels in sports, there's levels in greatness. There was, there's levels in being a man. And unfortunately, a lot of times, especially nowadays, you know, we are living in an era where the same way women are kind of going through the era of what? I don't need a man, I don't need this. J Lo just said something last night. She said, after being married five times or whatever, I have decided I'm choosing me.

• 11:59Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, God.

• 11:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm choosing me. You're choosing you? What are you choosing, bro? How would you? This is it. After four divorces and six different engagements, 56-year-old singer Jennifer Lopez says she's done with marriage, and she's choosing herself, right? And I was, oh, my God, she's so amazing. Good for you for choosing you, good for you for doing this. There's nothing more unattractive than a single woman in her 50s that wealth, that's wealthy. No one's interested. Nobody is. Maybe a 22-year-old that wants to come marry you and get half your wealth five years later, but people are not interested. But this is like this new era. I don't need a man, I can do my own thing. And for men, guess what men are going through? Screw you, you want to do this? I don't want any responsibilities.

• 12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Don't give me any responsibilities. I'm going to choose me too. So who wins? You know who wins? The enemy wins. Who's the enemy? The enemy is another country, the enemy is another denomination. The enemy is another philosophy, ideology that doesn't match with the Western ideology that became the greatest country in the world. It doesn't match with freedom of speech. It doesn't match with freedom of assembly. It doesn't match with freedom of religion. It just doesn't. So men are sitting there, they're going on a strike. Screw you. I'm choosing me too. Now what? And so neither one of them are right. So the whole idea of men, we measure men based on more responsibilities they carry. What they do for their family, what they do for their kids, what they do for their communities,

• 13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  what they do for their state, for their country, for their church. That's a man's man. There's layers to it, right? So last night I talked about the six levels we all go through. Number one is we're lost. Number two, somebody finds us and believes in us and says, hey, I believe in you. I think you can do X, Y, Z. Maybe you find God, maybe you find church, maybe you find a good influence in your life. Number three, you finally commit. I'm gonna choose to change my life. Number four, lifestyle changes. You're living a better lifestyle, you're living in a better place, you have some money in the bank, you're feeling confident, you're feeling good about yourself. And then phase number five, if you can skip it, good for you. Phase number five is when you get bored, when you get entitled, when you get ungrateful, when you forget about all the people that helped you. Like, no one helped me. I did all this for myself. And then finally, hopefully, you go to phase number six, which is choosing legacy,

• 14:11Patrick Bet-David?

  choosing history, choosing to do something big with your life. And Coach K is speaking on stage. I'm listening to this man walking up. You know, him and I are talking and I'm, you know, if you ever see me taking pictures with Guy, I'm touching his shoulders. I'm like, holy moly, Coach K, you got some traps. It's like, who the hell is this guy? Like, putting his arms all around me, all this stuff. I'll post the story on Instagram afterwards. He's on stage. He says, when he was, when he was a young man, 10 years old or something, playing basketball, his mom tells him a story, and it's the story of bus. He says, Mom, I wanna go play. Leave me alone. He says, no. Michael, specifically said Michael, not Mike. Michael, stay here. I have to tell you the story. What's that? In life, you better get on the right bus. He says, Mom, which bus are you talking about? I gotta go play basketball.

• 14:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Because Coach K ended up playing at one point for Bobby, Bobby Bowden? Bobby Knight? Bobby Knight. Did you know that? Yeah, I think in the military somewhere. That's right, because he was in the Army. Yeah, correct. So he's, she's like, what are you talking about with the bus? He says, if you're gonna get on someone's bus, you better choose the right bus. And if you're gonna be the driver on your bus, you better choose the right people to get on your bus. If you allow the wrong people to get on your bus, life will be destroyed. And if you get on the wrong bus, your life will be destroyed. So for you watching this right now, before we get into all these stories, I don't wanna say this at the end. Normally, I would say that at the end, but I just wanna open it up with this monologue. It's amazing what can happen to anyone, one of our lives. If you choose to have the right people in your ear. And if you choose to raise your standards.

• 15:41Patrick Bet-David?

  It's one of the hardest things to do as young men. Well, men nowadays are afraid of responsibilities. No, no, no, no, no. No, no kids. No, no 1.59 childbirth per woman. No, no, no, I don't want any responsibilities. But that's not what a leader does. That's not what a man's mans does. That's not what a man that wants to be. Look back later on when they come to your funeral, they're looking at you saying, holy moly, this man changed my life. This is my father. Men are sitting there, women are sitting at your funeral saying, I am so proud to have had a relationship with this person. And that kind of a. Person only happens when you choose to make a decision in your life. And it's not easy to do, it's very hard to do. But I just wanted to open up with that. Do whatever you want with the story. Um, last night was just a very special night for me. I've been in this business for 25 years.

• 16:24Patrick Bet-David?

  In the financial insurance business. Most of you guys only know me as a podcast, or you don't know what I do on the business side. I'm meeting with all these CEOs that are running multi-billionaire insurance companies, all these different conversations. The industry changed our lives. But if it's the right person watching this, if this message resonated with you. Graduate from lost to found to committed. And then try to skip. The entitled, the bored, the. No one helped me out. I did it all myself. The lack of gratitude phase. And pursue legacy and history. Cause great things are around the corner. I do believe the future looks bright. Uh, I'm convinced the future looks bright. Every time I say the future looks bright, it's amazing. Half the people in the world. Want to convince me that it doesn't look bright, but it's unfair. You don't know.

• 17:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, you're only saying that's because you have money. I said that when I was broke, $49,000 in debt and I had nothing. And I said, the future looks bright. I don't know why. I said, the future looks bright. It's a mentality, it's a mindset that every one of us can have. That's what we believe in. That's what our brand's all about. Yesterday, a guy comes up to me, one of these insurance executive. I saw your son selling a shoe that says future looks bright. I said, yeah. So what are you gonna sell next? I said, what do you mean? What am I gonna sell? You're saying it as if it's bad to sell something. And he kind of got checked real quick. I'm like, you sell life insurance, bro. I I've been proud to sell life insurance my entire life. But I respect anybody that sells anything. We're at a podcast, they sold us this place.

• 17:46Patrick Bet-David?

  And guess what? They have so many people working here. It's like over preparation for us. Typically, I'm like trying to get focused on what I'm doing. Do you guys need this? Do you guys need that? Look, holy shit. Like unreasonable hospitality. These guys are on steroids here. But they're selling themselves. I freaking love it. This is what business and life is all about. You ought to be proud of it. Whatever you're doing, if you're gonna be industrious, be proud of what you're doing. Anyways, I don't want to go on a rant because I want to go into the stories. But last night was a very, very special night. For anybody that was there, love you guys. What a historic night. I'm gonna post some of the pictures. We got so many great stories from last night. Everybody crushed it. And congratulations to Chris and Vessina Hart.

• 18:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, just gonna mention that.

• 18:28Adam Sosnick?

  They were on fire.

• 18:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Gotta give a shout out to them. MVP, new MVP. Can I ask you just one quick follow up on this? By the way. What a family. Amazing night. Shout out to PHP. Shout out to Integrity. Shout out to Chris Hart. Who won the MVP, I believe. Shout out to Sepala. Arca says.

• 18:41Adam Sosnick?

  Earned.

• 18:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's my question for you on these six phases that we all go through.

• 18:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 18:46Tom Ellsworth?

  We've all been lost. We all found. We get someplace where we're going. We get committed. Then you get the lifestyle and lifestyle creep sets in. Alright, I get a nicer car. I get a nicer clothes. To me, the biggest challenge is.

• 18:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people get nicer cars, but I'm just.

• 18:58Tom Ellsworth?

  That's true. Not me. Not me.

• 18:59Adam Sosnick?

  Better Uber Black. Uber Black.

• 19:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but go ahead.

• 19:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Better Uber. They get a driver's license, then they. Better friends. But to me, phase five is where reality sets in. And where it's like, alright, I've made some money. I've done some things.

• 19:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 19:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's natural, maybe a week or two, a month. Alright.

• 19:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 19:14Tom Ellsworth?

  How do you avoid going into, you know, I'm the man kind of vibe now and get back?

• 19:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You know.

• 19:19Tom Ellsworth?

  To work.

• 19:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You know who's the first people you don't want to be around when you're going through that phase of boredom? Ungrateful, entitled, arrogant, rebellion, like everything's about you? You know who the people you hate the most in those seasons? You know who the people you hate the most? Tell me. The people that'll tell you the truth. Oh. The people that'll check you in. The truth teller? You cannot stand the high standard people. All you wanna do is be surrounded by people that wanna flatter you. And flattery is one of the worst drugs in the world. It's deception, it's manipulation, it's gamification. It's finding a way to divide between you and high standards. Whether it's your wife who doesn't want you to work too hard. Whether it's your girlfriend, whether it's your brother, whether it's your sibling. Whether it's your best friend that still wants you to party, doesn't want you to go and become a family man, cuz he's gonna lose you at the nightclub.

• 20:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I'll never forget a friend of mine, Davine. I absolutely loved Davine, till today. I think about that guy, can tell you his phone number, I can tell you his birthday, I can... The only guy that when I was in the army, the only guy, when I came back, I stayed with him for eighteen days. I lived at his place for eighteen days. Baharians, Davine, whoever sends you this video, I love you. I worked with this guy Burger King thirty years ago. Thirty years ago, yeah, thirty, no, maybe thirty-one years ago. I worked with him at Burger King, me, Davine and Kogan. And Davine was the drive-thru guy. Legendary drive-thru guy, he was good drive-thru, man, he was fast. What do you mean the drive-thru guy? He was drive, like, the guy you would come and buy. Burger King. But if you work at Burger King, your drive-thru, that's a promotion. Wow. Eddie, who was our manager, never gave me the drive-thru job.

• 20:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, Eddie, he says, you're just a chef. You're the CEO of Burger Flipping. I would do Whopper, no onion. Boom, boom, boom, that was me, right? Quick. So let me be a cashier. He says, you talk to people too much. Stay back, I was the biggest chef they had, and I intentionally call myself chef. Yes. I was a chef, okay? At Burger King. David at Burger King, right? Davine one day calls me, we used to party a lot together. He calls me, he says, hey, Pat. I said, what's up? He says, hey, man, you ain't coming to the clubs anymore. I says, yeah, bro, I'm done. He says, what are you doing right now? I said, I'm studying stocks. It's Saturday night. He says, I'm sorry, what are you doing? I said, I'm studying stocks, trying to see what to do, I'm trying to get my securities, all this other stuff. He says, Pat, we're going to the club tonight, come with us. I says, I have no interest. He says, Pat, let's go to the club, we're gonna have a good time. I said, Davine, I'm not coming to the club.

• 21:33Patrick Bet-David?

  We had gone to a party with one of my friends, Armin Blessasour, and another guy named Messrop. He'll remember this. Messrop, Armin, and Davine should remember this. We're at a club, we went to see a girl, she was there, we said hi. Some stupid things happened there, again, this is not the club, this is the party in Burbank. Up in Angelino, I don't know if some of the people from there know, it's close to the... What is the spot at top of Burbank, Tom, that place that was the make-out place? Castaway. No, no, say it, Castaway. Castaway. Yeah, Castaway. Town of Glendale. Tom, what was it? I was always up at the top.

• 22:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Where you were necking all the back.

• 22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I told, I told Devine.

• 22:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Getting a parking ticket.

• 22:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Something happened that night. I said, I'm done. I have no desire to be here. I moved on. Devine calls me, says, I miss the old Pat. I will never forget that phone call. When he says, Pat, I miss the old Pat.

• 22:19Tom Ellsworth?

  The fact they used to party.

• 22:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. And for a split second, I was like, damn, that hurt. And then I was shell shocked. And if he remembers this, he's probably gonna text me. If he remembers this, I said, I don't miss the old Pat.

• 22:34Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what matters.

• 22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I am done. Period. Until you're not too, this doesn't mean we can't reminisce. This doesn't mean we can't laugh. This doesn't mean we can't sit there and talk about the stories. But I didn't miss the old Pat. I had seen my dad that almost died. Life was changing quickly. Chaos everywhere. I have not a single penny to my name. And you want me to go and party to do what? With people that just wanna do ecstasy, roll, drink water at two o'clock? We go to Naked, then we go to this other club? I'm out. I was done. And life changed. So for you, when you're going through that phase, the hardest thing about going through the ungrateful bored, entitled phase is having people around you that tell you what you want to hear versus what you need to hear. The people that are around you that tell you what you need to hear are the most annoying people in the world.

• 23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Are the most annoying people in the world. There's scripture tells us, Tom, you can, I'm gonna paraphrase this. That a, a kiss from an enemy versus the truth from a friend. It's, you can find this, Rob, if, there is, there's.

• 23:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Right. Better is.

• 23:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

• 23:39Tom Ellsworth?

  And the wounds of a friend are sharp words of truth.

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. So guess what? You want that? That's tough. That is so hard. And unfortunately, I've been that guy for a lot of people and most of the time, they don't like it, but it's not changing because we got a big vision of what we wanna do. Very simple.

• 23:58Tom Ellsworth?

  This is why so many athletes get those posses, which is old friends and everybody and their new contract. And it all ends in tears.

• 24:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yup.

• 24:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Because they get wiped out, they're buying stuff. No one's there to help them build structure. And if they get a good coach. They talk about Dean Smith, they talk about Coach Duschevsky. How many players have talked about the influence of that?

• 24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Changed my life, changed this, that's right. In a big way. Okay, so, were you gonna say?

• 24:23Adam Sosnick?

  I was just gonna say, like, just really fast, when I was sitting there yesterday with Adam, and I'm looking at this list, because everything in my head, I'm like, how does this apply to me? And then when I saw Lost, I go, huh, Lost, LA, friends passed away, COVID, life was going down, found, I found you, I found you on, I saw the picture of you, and I saw David, I go, who the, my cousin's, Mike's name is David, click, boom, found, and then, came here, lifestyle change, gave myself to Christ, stopped drinking, I'm, and by the way, I was nervous, because I was like, am I bored and entitled? I go, no, I'm not in the board entitled, but now it's the legacy.

• 24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You can graduate that.

• 24:57Tom Ellsworth?

  But that was your commitment stage.

• 24:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You can graduate that, who never even hit it.

• 24:59Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I'm saying, in my mind, I'm like, wait, I, I, meaning, I was bored of who I, like, I wanted to recreate myself, but I'm like, I wasn't entitled to anything, so, when I saw it, I was like, holy crap, that's for, everybody has to go through it.

• 25:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, I mean, listen.

• 25:12Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 25:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Your commitment stage is one of the most inspiring things I've ever seen.

• 25:16Patrick Bet-David?

  My oldest son is on the other side, and, and, Tico, wherever you are, I think you're somewhere here with us.

• 25:21Adam Sosnick?

  He loves bow ties.

• 25:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He's in the back, he's trying to get a job over here, he kinda likes these guys a lot.

• 25:25Tom Ellsworth?

  There's Tico back there, he's looking. Putting bow ties in a shredder.

• 25:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yesterday, they're coming back, and it's 12 o'clock, and, you know, they left a little bit, 11 o'clock, you guys are leaving, what did Tico tell you?

• 25:34Adam Sosnick?

  We're in the car.

• 25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you put up that picture with him and the bow tie, watch this. So I'm putting up the bow tie, and he's like, sick, and I told him, Tico, I'm doing this tie, tell me, this is a story only him and Dylan know, I said, Tico, I'm doing the bow tie tie, look how sick it is.

• 25:48Adam Sosnick?

  It's ridiculous.

• 25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, is your voice changing? He goes like this, it's not tied. I said, you sure it's not tied? And what does he say last night?

• 25:56Adam Sosnick?

  We're in the car going back, me, Jen, and Rob, and then, I'm like, man, I gotta, I gotta get to the room, I gotta prep for the podcast and pack, because we're leaving. And then, Tico goes, just like this, he goes, I'm gonna get back to the room, I'm gonna take off this bow tie, and I'm gonna set it on fire.

• 26:12Tom Ellsworth?

  He hates bow ties. Dude, I asked him if he likes bow ties. He said he does. Hang on, Tico. It's an unsophisticated.

• 26:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at that face. Look at that face. Make it look good, Tico, man. By the way.

• 26:23Tom Ellsworth?

  I will tell you, I'm proud of that guy, man.

• 26:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Well, listen.

• 26:26Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm proud of that guy.

• 26:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He's an inch away from being Tom's height at 13 years old. He's going places. Anyway.

• 26:31Tom Ellsworth?

  And possibly smarter than Tom. Yeah, well, that's a big leap. The world is taller than me.

• 26:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Okay. All right. So let's get into some of the stories. And one story I want to get into is Howard Stern. Okay, we are going to get into the story with DC right after this one. But let me start off with Howard Stern. Howard Stern Show, to be canceled after nearly 20 years on Sirius XM as $100 million contract, is up this year. Okay, so let me read this story. Is this Trump's reaction to it?

• 26:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he was asked about this at the White House yesterday.

• 27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it. Play it.

• 27:03Speaker 05

  I've got an entertainment-based question for you. A few weeks ago, Stephen Colbert announced that he was leaving his show. Howard Stern announced that him and Sirius XM Radio are parting ways. Do you think the hate-Trump business model that's been in the entertainment?

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• 28:15Speaker 05

  Business is going out of business because it's not popular with the American people. Well, it hasn't worked and it hasn't worked really for a long time and I would say pretty much from the beginning. Colbert has no talent. I mean, I could take anybody here, I could go outside in the beautiful streets and pick a couple of people that do just as well or better, they get higher ratings than he did. He's got no talent. Fallon has no talent. Kimmel has no talent. They're next, they're gonna be going. I hear they're gonna be going. I don't know, but I would imagine because they get, you know, Colbert has better ratings than Kimmel or Fallon, you know that. Howard Stern is a name I haven't heard. I used to do a show, we used to have fun, but I haven't heard that name in a long time. What happened? He got terminated?

• 28:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, they're gonna separate wage because I think what they're offering salary-wise is real low than what he's getting. You know when he went down? Whenever he went? You know when he went down? No. Before, when he endorsed Hillary Clinton, he lost his audience. People said, "Give me a break." He went down when he endorsed Hillary Clinton.

• 29:15Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so let me give you numbers here. Tom, I'm gonna come to you. Sources telling the US Sun that Howard Stern latest five-year contract valued at $8200 million annually is up in the fall and Sirius XM does not intend to meet his salary demands. Sirius and Stern are never going to meet on the money he is going to want. It's no longer worth the investment. One insider said, "Though they expect Sirius to strike a deal for Stern's catalog upon his exit, the decision follows financial concerns." With another source referencing the high cost after what happened with Stephen Colbert, 71-years-old, they're moving on. Tom, what's going on here?

• 29:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, once again, this is fun with headlines, right, Pat? And it's fun. So it's set to be canceled. They didn't say they're canceling it. The Sun headline is, "It's set to be canceled." What do they mean? The contract's expiring.

• 30:05Patrick Bet-David?

  That's it.

• 30:06Tom Ellsworth?

  And, yeah, and so that's it. And so you're not set to be canceled.

• 30:09Patrick Bet-David?

  The guy's 71-years-old.

• 30:10Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right. So there's, there's three things, actually, there's four things going on. Number one, he's 71-years-old and he's increasingly out of touch with the audience that's there. Second, he is a hard-left liberal and hard-left shows have not done well. Moderate. and conservative shows do better than hard left that's just a fact third serious like many of the other platforms out there and three letter platforms like CNN that have been trimming people's contacts we saw all this stuff right people getting contracts cancelled getting you know escorted off the air and and said well you know it's not really audience no it is and Colbert losing forty million dollars so reason number three old

• 30:51Tom Ellsworth?

  media platforms can't afford the contracts they put in if anybody knows about the A-Rod contract and how it went from Seattle to Texas to New York there A-Rod was a gifted athlete but the contract that was made at the time ended up being too rich for the economics of the game that's the economics of the game and number four the fourth thing is that Stern still thinks that he's worth this in his head so it's hard for people the talent gets in denial because your contract is the validation of your persona and taking a lower value contract is really difficult for a lot of athletes and a lot of celebrities which leads to the statement at the bottom that serious may say okay well we'll just

• 31:36Tom Ellsworth?

  buy your catalog how many times have we seen a music labels buying the entire Michael Jackson or the Beatles catalog and then they work with the big three Sirius Apple Music and Pandora and then they just cultivate that catalog forever so that's what's going on with Howard Stern he's not gonna be cancelled it's more like it's gonna be a non renewal for the money he wants and it's a sign of old big contracts just are not happening again in the media landscape the new media landscape is the podcast it's not the linear and serious that's got serious issues economically because it's a kind of a walled garden

• 32:12Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah Vinnie your thought

• 32:14Adam Sosnick?

  yeah and listen it's just really sad because I mean if you guys remember Howard Stern well this guy was a pioneer and Rob could attest because Rob was in radio pioneer in radio he'd be doing sketches live and yeah he did some crazy stuff he did blackface and did some really racist stuff where a lot of people you know got away with especially if you were on the left but it's like I'm I'm truly happy that all of these leftist unfunny democrats are all get their political hacks to me they're all getting canned from from you know he's going bye bye howard stern jim acosta you know joy read stephen colbert whoop you know whooping all them are taking this break but it's like they've mocked americans for how long they've pushed propaganda and now they're getting flushed out one at a time and let's not forget who howard stern was rob you have these two clips of what he said

• 32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  yeah

• 32:59Adam Sosnick?

  this is for all the people out there that are supporting trump you just leaned one way politically this is what he had to say about all the people that voted for trump

• 33:06Patrick Bet-David?

  don't agree with trump politically i don't i don't think he should be anywhere near the white house i don't hate the guy i hate the people who vote for him i think you're stupid

• 33:12Adam Sosnick?

  yup

• 33:12Patrick Bet-David?

  i don't think i do i'll be honest with you i have no respect for you

• 33:15Adam Sosnick?

  and guess what that type of rhetoric and i'm got imagine remember you said about the bad policies policies pat this whole attitude this resentment this hey you're gonna alienate half of the freaking country you hate us you don't even hate trump you hate us for what because we have we don't want to think like the status quo and then what about the vaccine remember what he said about vaccine rob play this clip of how what he said about people that aren't vaccinated

• 33:37Tom Ellsworth?

  anyone unvaccinated would not be admitted to a hospital at this point they've been given plenty of opportunity to get the vaccine they don't trust our government they think that there's some conspiracy to turn them into a magnet or something like this now if you don't get it in my america all hospitals would be close to you you're gonna go home and die

• 33:59Adam Sosnick?

  okay and that and guess what that type of attitude guys after a while adam tom it starts to catch up with you people and by the way serious x-men with all the numbers and stuff that you did though tom it's it's it's over all this nonsense of talking to us like that like we're like what how is it cool to have that attitude you think you're gonna still have

• 34:16Tom Ellsworth?

  and that comment i'll i'll flip this right back to you that comment there does that sound kind of authoritarian and they're saying trump's authoritarian oh i'm gonna close the hospitals you can't even go in seriously

• 34:27Adam Sosnick?

  yeah

• 34:27Tom Ellsworth?

  goes back to the liberal technique accuse

• 34:30Adam Sosnick?

  the other

• 34:30Tom Ellsworth?

  side of what you're already doing

• 34:32Adam Sosnick?

  yup

• 34:33Tom Ellsworth?

  So the hating Trump business model is officially closed.

• 34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  It's been closed.

• 34:37Tom Ellsworth?

  That was the initial question. He says, the people that hate you, how does that business model work? He's like, they're all getting done. So Howard Stern, Stephen Colbert, Fallon, Kim, all these names. I think Trump was wrong. I think all these people that he claimed have no talent are actually incredibly talented. Jimmy Fallon, incredibly talented. Howard Stern, very talented guy. Colbert, very talented. Where they're not talented is reading the room, understanding, hey, we have this huge pizza pie that we could all carve up. And they basically said, nope, throw the other half in the garbage. All these people.

• 35:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Deplorables.

• 35:15Tom Ellsworth?

  The deplorables. We don't want any of that. We're going to focus right here. And then you're just carving up whatever's left and they're, and they're basically sharing.

• 35:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're saying they have talent, but they have no audience, which means they have no brains.

• 35:26Tom Ellsworth?

  They, they, that's a different story. There's part of that. Think about this. Bill Maher said the exact opposite thing that Howard Stern said. He goes, I hate Trump, but I don't hate the people that voted for him. Howard Stern says, I don't hate Trump, but I hate the people that voted for him. Have the two careers gone two separate ways? Bill Maher, one of the more credible voices in media these days, why? Because he's at least willing to say, I'll meet with Trump. I was wrong.

• 35:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And he did.

• 35:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Here's what's going on. And look at where his career has gone versus Howard Stern might be out of a job pretty soon.

• 36:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Such a great point because, you know, it's easy to say, well, Howard Stern is 71 years old. Bill Maher is 69. Same, not like Bill Maher is 55. And Bill Maher, some would say, has got an audience that's very confused. Because it's kind of like the right likes him one week, the left. So everybody is talking to the guy. And he'll get Sean Penn that'll come and say, I don't think there's any point to go on a meeting with the president. Says the guy that went and met with Castro. You think there's, so he'll say stuff like that and you gotta love it. And I want to Trump, I'm not going to lie to you. He's funny. He's funny. I liked it. I know you don't want to hear it. I'm not, so, and Howard Stern with this business model where it's going.

• 36:43Patrick Bet-David?

  The awful thing about capitalism is capitalism is gonna expose you and if you don't show a way of being able to speak to both your audiences, you're gonna get your ass handed to you and that's happening right now to a lot of guys him. Question now becomes, who's next? That's really the list. Who's next? What's the model gonna be with Kimmel? What's the model gonna be with Fallon? What's the model gonna be? Did you notice the other day? Who Stephen Colbert brought to his show? Do you know who he brought to the show? The Republican, the conservative from The View, who hates Trump.

• 37:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, the girl who's technically a dumb.

• 37:14Patrick Bet-David?

  But guess what? It's kinda like, oh, we see the stats that we don't bring any conservatives. Bring the safe conservative here, right?

• 37:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Too late.

• 37:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know what? Uh, Stephen Colbert, I dare you to do the following. Stephen Colbert, I dare you, do you wanna have your biggest show of the year? I dare you, Stephen Colbert, invite Tucker Carlson. Invite Charlie Kirk. Invite Trump.

• 37:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Invite Trump.

• 37:39Patrick Bet-David?

  No, not even, forget Trump. I'm not even talking about Trump. He can't get Trump. Trump's not gonna go on Colbert right now. I dare Stephen Colbert and the producers, if you're watching this, I dare you to test a Kirk. I dare you to test a, you know, Tucker. I dare you to test any of the conservative guys that have a voice. I dare you to bring him on. I dare you to bring J D Vance on. I dare you to bring Howard Lautner on. I dare you, I, you will not do it. You know why you will not do it? Because it's gonna be your most viewed show of the year and that's gonna scare the shit out of you. I, matter of fact, hey, who owns Stephen Colbert's show? Who is it? Is it CBS?

• 38:17Tom Ellsworth?

  CBS, yes, sir.

• 38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  CBS at the top. You really wanna see if you're capitalist? Hey capitalist, put your money where your mouth is. You call the shots, call the producer and the booker and say, I want you to invite J D Vance. I want you to invite Charlie Kirk. I want you to invite Tucker Carlson, even though right now we see what's going on the Republican side. They may not even be on the side. I, I want you to invite Megyn Kelly. I want you to invite some of these guys. See what happens to the show. You know why they're scared? CBS, you shouldn't be scared. Colbert shouldn't be able to say no to it. You should be able to say, we're paying you, these are the guests that are coming on. See what happens? You know why? Because if you're gonna bring somebody else to replace Colbert, the audience is wanting to hear everybody. FYI, I don't want a show that they only bring Republicans.

• 39:01Patrick Bet-David?

  If Stephen Colbert only brought Republicans, that's a boring show. Bring me other people, but I want to see you bring both. And if you fight and you disagree, I don't care. I respect it. But as long as you bring them. However, what are the chances they're gonna do that?

• 39:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Very little. Zero. Very little. I would say zero.

• 39:19Patrick Bet-David?

  They are so scared. They are so scared because they know the eyeballs will show up. They are so scared because they know it'll go viral. They are so scared because they know it'll go trending all over X. They are, you are pansies. You won't do it. You're scared shitless. You are so scared. FYI, what if you guys choose to replace a Kemal and a Fallon with somebody on the center right? What if you bring a funny person that's got a personality, that can push the envelope, that can challenge people, but they're center right, willing to talk to everybody? Sports, politics, movies, shows, bring somebody late night, put him there. Have him bring everybody. Bring a bunch of, bring 60% liberal guests. See what happens to your show. This model shouldn't fail.

• 40:02Patrick Bet-David?

  It is a failed model today, not because people don't want it. It is only a failed model because you said this to people on the complete opposite side. Not because it doesn't work. People do want to sit there late night and hear somebody talk that's gonna laugh their asses out. I still go and watch Johnny Carson from back in the days.

• 40:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 40:18Patrick Bet-David?

  I still watch Johnny Carson from back in the days. I am so sick of today's Fallon and Kemal and Colbert that I go and watch 40 years ago from Carson, when I was in Iran, I was never even here to watch Johnny Carson. I never lived in America under Johnny Carson. I lived here under the Letterman and the Leno days. I still go back and watch it. So it's not a failed model. It's only a failed model if you don't invite anybody from the other side. Let's go to the next story. NFL. Here's what NFL just decided to do. Let me go to the story on Tom. I'm coming to you with this one as well.

• 40:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Ready.

• 40:47Patrick Bet-David?

  ESPN inks deal with NFL to acquire NFL Network and Red Zone Channel. Which has a lot of people talking. So what does this really mean? Okay, so ESPN, a Disney-owned sports media company, has reached a deal with NFL to acquire NFL Network and certain other media assets, including NFL's linear Red Zone channel and NFL Fantasy, in exchange for 10% equity stake in ESPN. 10% equity in ESPN? Yes, 10% equity in ESPN. Rob, go ahead and play this clip on a reaction on this decision.

• 41:16Tom Ellsworth?

  The NFL has had essentially a struggling media property in NFL Network. It's never become what they thought it was going to be. They created Thursday Night Football as a way to prop up NFL Network. It debuted in 2006 as a back-half-of-the-season Thursday night package to give NFL Network something that would make cable providers want it. It still never really took off. And they've been trying for years to unload it, Dan. I mean, like, 10 years they've been trying to get rid of this. And they've tied it to different things. NBC was in the conversation at one point. And now they get 10% equity in ESPN for these failing properties.

• 41:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And, yeah, I don't know that the consumer was the main reason for this. And now the question becomes, how do we make this seamless for the consumer? You know, for example, ESPN did a deal as part of this to continue to televise the draft for the next five years. Well, when you turn on NFL Network for the draft, are you gonna see Rich Eisen now? Are you gonna see Mike Greenberg? Who's it gonna be? And I think it's important for them to keep things normal

• 42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting point.

• 42:24Tom Ellsworth?

  from the perspective of the consumer, because I think most people are afraid, number one, things are gonna change, and number two, we're gonna get screwed. I just think that's the natural reaction to this news that these two behemoths have come together. So Mike Florio has hit something on the head. Where is Red Zone and NFL Fantasy? And by the way, It's interesting, these have been out there for 10 years and they have been like the short clips of the NFL. If you tuned in, NFL Fantasy would quickly take you through wide receivers and quarterbacks and plays scored. Oh, you know, Chase, 22-yard pass, 2 points for Chase on Fantasy, NFL Fantasy, and they bounced around. And then Red Zone

• 43:07Tom Ellsworth?

  was really great because Andrew Siciliano, you know, the guy with the big ears, really knowledgeable guy, fun guy to watch, and a really great commentator, a lot of respect. I loved watching him because you could sit there, if the Raiders really stunk and you were a Raider fan, like me, you would sit there and tune into Red Zone. So every time somebody's across the 20-yard line, boom, you get to watch scoring plays or the drive stalling or whatever it is. So it was, this was a short clip that I think was before its time because now we know how powerful short clips are to the podcast and the media world. Well, now let's talk about exclusivity. ESPN is now getting an asset. Remember, the NFL

• 43:50Tom Ellsworth?

  bet on exclusivity when they did the DirecTV deal back at the dawn of DirecTV in 1994. I was there. I was part of a company that made components for DirecTV, for the outdoor dish. And what was very interesting there, everybody said, what are they doing? DirecTV was getting sales just on Green Bay Packer fans that lived in New Orleans, just on Raider fans that lived in Florida or Dallas, like me. And so that really worked. That exclusivity worked. Now ESPN says, listen, cable is dying and I'm having trouble getting a take rate on my channels.

• 44:26Patrick Bet-David?

  But Tom, this is a desperate deal, though. This is not like a, this is, if I'm an outsider wanting to compete, Rob, you okay with posting that guy's picture up? We know, I mean, we know who he is. Every time you post this picture, it's like, no, no, the audience needs to see what we just looked at. It can't do that. Cut on those ears? It wasn't a nude photo. It's the goat. He uses nine Q-tips. Let me go back to this. So when I look at a deal like this from an outsider, all I see is desperation. I see worry. I see what's going to be happening. I see, let's try to find a way to protect ourselves. Giving up 10%, Tom? That's a lot.

• 44:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Both of them are desperate. The NFL wanted to get it off cable and satellite because cable and satellite are dying. Dish Network, where's Dish Network? DirecTV, where's DirecTV?

• 45:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Who won here, though? Who won here?

• 45:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Who won here? I believe the NFL won here because they were able to get the asset. That they were having trouble getting viewership on cable and satellite. They get 10% of ESPN, but ESPN was equally desperate. They've been cutting salaries of commentators. They've been trying to hone their message and they've been, look at all the big contracts that they've been doing for sports like college conferences and the big contracts they're not doing for commentators. Look at all the retired jocks. How many retired jocks have we seen not renewed on ESPN? A ton of them. Stephen A is the exception contract. They did the Stephen A contract. However, everybody else are trying to reduce the cost of commentators and spend big on the sports property.

• 45:48Tom Ellsworth?

  And this is ESPN saying, I will take this for NFL that gives me another something to show the viewer and I'll give up 10% of ESPN. That shows you how desperate ESPN is for content. So the NFL won and something, I love that word, Pat. Both sides were desperate, but the NFL won.

• 46:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And to me, so did ESPN give 10% to the NFL?

• 46:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. NFL now has 10%.

• 46:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that worth? This isn't, okay, so it looks like you might be referencing to the recent deal, but to clarify, this isn't a 10% financial return like dividends or investment yields. Instead, it's just about ownership exchange. The NFL entered into an agreement to acquire 10% equity in this, meaning they now own 10% in exchange for media assets. Okay. So let me tell you what I'm very uncomfortable with. Let me tell you what I'm very uncomfortable with. I'm very uncomfortable with the government owning 20% of CNN. I'm very uncomfortable if the government bought 20% of Fox. I'm very uncomfortable with anything owning a percentage of a company that's going to be forced to say good things about them.

• 46:52Patrick Bet-David?

  When it comes down to an institution, because NFL is essentially a form of a government, you know, for the sport. They own the NFL. So I just looked up right now, what assets does NFL own? Rob, if you can ask this question, what companies does the NFL own? They own NFL Films, NFL Network, NFL.com, NFL Mobile, Red Zone, NFL Plus, NFL Films. All these things that they own, NFL Ventures, right? And now you own ESPN 10%? Isn't that an arm in a way where ESPN can no longer do a negative story on concussions? Isn't that, I actually don't like the deal. It makes me feel very uncomfortable because the ESPN officially is not going to be criticizing the NFL because it's a product of theirs.

• 47:37Patrick Bet-David?

  I am very uncomfortable with the NFL owning 10% of ESPN. I'm just extremely uncomfortable. I'm not uncomfortable with an owner owning it. Because still the regulatory arm would be who? The NFL coming in saying, hey, you can't just say good things about the Washington Redskins. I'm still gonna call them Redskins. You can't say anything good about the Miami Dolphins. You can't, hey, why are you doing that? No, no. You can't do that. You can't. So, but NFL owns 10% of ESPN. I am super uncomfortable with it.

• 48:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think you've hit something there because I'll take you to some reality. ESPN ended up with, through ABC, Monday Night Football.

• 48:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 48:12Tom Ellsworth?

  And they, and if, when they said things that were a little off, they got hit for it. They, they absolutely got hit for it. And they got pulled back. Hey, if you're gonna do this, you can't do that. Lay off the refs. Remember, the refs work for the NFL. Oh, the refs are terrible. This sucked. The NFL's not even ensuring that its games are fair because the refs are so bad. Joe Burrow got screwed on that. They're like, hey, can you, can you knock that off, please? That's already been happening. This takes that up a notch. And I also think ESPN Plus and Disney Plus are the streaming side of it. I bet you watch, there's gonna be an NFL package only available on ESPN Plus. And they're gonna attach part of ESPN Plus to Hulu. So you have to buy Hulu and ESPN Plus. There's also a corporate side of it there.

• 48:56Tom Ellsworth?

  So you're absolutely correct. The reporting side of ESPN suddenly has to fall in line behind the storylines of the NFL.

• 49:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't at all like it. I don't at all want the NFL owning ESPN.

• 49:07Adam Sosnick?

  So that's, so let me ask you a question. So if you own, if the NFL owns 10% of ESPN and the NFL, let's just say, is like, listen, we're gonna go with this woke, kneeling for the anthem, end racism and all that stuff. You guys have to talk positively about it? Hell, no.

• 49:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 49:21Adam Sosnick?

  Hell, no.

• 49:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would you say anything negative?

• 49:24Adam Sosnick?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Why would you say anything negative? You own, like, it's a, it's a, so it's kinda like, you know how, what is the whole thing that AOC is trying to get the insider trading with Nancy Pelosi and all these other guys that both of them are doing it? Last year Pelosi made 78% return, or whatever the number was documented. Network between $200 million to $430 million that we keep reading about. If you're, why are you uncomfortable with that? Because the US Government has access to certain information that other people don't so they're gonna protect it. I'm not comfortable with the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, the NHL owning a percentage of a massive network like ESPN. It's the biggest arm for sports. Criticism is gone. So there is no more criticizing because you can't. What are you gonna criticize?

• 50:08Patrick Bet-David?

  The element of criticizing this, that's, that's your job. That's the company that owns you. I don't think it's good for the market. Adam, real quick before we go to the next story.

• 50:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, as much as you don't like it, I see this being part of the cultural narrative. America is obsessed with football. So remember, baseball was America's pastime. It's in the past. By far and away, football is the most watched sport. It's not even close. And by the way, if you look at the schedule, Thursday night is college football, Friday night is more college football, Saturday more college, Sunday NFL, Sunday night NFL, Monday NFL, Tuesday, Wednesday getting off, Thursday you're starting again. By the way, starting Friday night lights, all of a sudden fantasy football. It will take over your life.

• 50:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not the point.

• 50:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Just pigskin. But my point is this, the business model is that they're, they're, they're shoving this down our throat because why? Follow the money. I'm not shocked that they're cutting these side deals to basically engage in more football. If you look at the names of who's running these deals, Bob Iger, Disney, ESPN, NFL Red Zone, 10% equity stake, it's just money, money, money, money, money.

• 51:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You missed my entire point.

• 51:14Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I got your point.

• 51:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You missed my entire point. My point is, and by the way, if I'm NFL and the government body allows me to buy ESPN, I'm buying into ESPN. What do you like? Good, this is a victory for NFL. That's good for them. They's like, you know, the US government just bought CNN. The US government just bought CNN and Fox. Okay, good. You know, hey, listen, you better or else. Yeah, I get it. Well, what would the other way Tommy Lauren on the podcast, right? When I asked the question about Epstein letter and,

• 51:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Nothing.

• 51:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I can't comment on that. Of course you can.

• 51:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 51:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, you want to comment on concussions? I can't comment on that. Why? Because the NFL owns 10% of us and we're not gonna hear about that and we're not gonna get better at that. No. There's a part of me that's very uncomfortable.

• 51:54Tom Ellsworth?

  It's control.

• 51:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Especially of the body, I'm more comfortable owners owning it because the body, which is the NFL can regulate it. I'm not comfortable with the body NFL owning 10%. I'm not. There has to be a form of where the NFL is a government, is a body. I understand it's a business, but it's a body. It's a very different way to view it than the rest, Tom.

• 52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and I'll tell you, this, this has happened before and there's been uproars. In 1994, a commentator named Gary McCord was covering the Masters and he was on, I think, the 17th green and he said, "Wow, these greens are so smooth and so fast. It's like they bikini waxed them." And he said, "And there's body bags behind the 17th green for some of these players." What he meant was the greens were so slick and he meant was some of these players have such trouble on the 17th green that it ruins around and you end up in a body bag. Hey, the 17th hole really killed that guy. Do you know what Augusta said? They called CBS that night and said, "Take that guy off the air. He is

• 52:58Tom Ellsworth?

  disrespecting the prestige of Augusta." There wasn't disrespecting it. It was, he was making a comment and it was playful and it was interesting in the stodginess of old golf.

• 53:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I have a problem with that. I have a problem with that.

• 53:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And they did it. They did it and it was an uproar and it kind of backfired against Augusta because all of us at home said, "You called the network that gave you millions and millions of dollars to broadcast your tournament and he was making it interesting and making a point that anyone that's ever held a golf club would understand, even an amateur." That, guess what? This goes up on steroids when you add ownership to it.

• 53:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Got it. Okay. Yeah, good point. Let's go to the next one. Trump threatens to federalize DC after attack on Doge staffer. This is a Guardian story. So he is threatening to strip its local governance citing rampant youth crime after an alleged assault on Edward Corristine, a 19 year old former staffer of the Department of Government Efficiency who was severely beaten to the point of concussion. While defending a woman from assault near Dupont Circle, crime in DC, and here's where he's talking about it, Trump threats to federalize, backed by Elon Musk, assault on Doge team members, we're gonna see what's gonna happen here. And in 2009, Lafayette scored, though fully suspending DC's home rule established in 1973

• 54:19Patrick Bet-David?

  would likely require congressional legislation. And we'll see if that'll happen or not. Rob, is that a tweet of his?

• 54:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I have a tweet and video.

• 54:26Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's watch the video and then I'll read the tweet. Go for it.

• 54:29Speaker 05

  By the way, I have to say that somebody from Doge was very badly hurt last night. You saw that. A young man who was beat up by a bunch of thugs in DC. And either they're gonna straighten their act out in the terms of government and in terms of protection, or we're gonna have to federalize and run it the way it's supposed to be run.

• 54:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go to this tweet, Rob, and we'll break this down. So crime in DC is out of control. Local youth gang members, some only 14, 15, 16-year-olds are randomly attacking, mugging, miming, and shooting innocent citizens at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of law enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it's going to happen now. The law in DC must be changed to prosecute these minors as adults and lock them up for a long time, starting at the age of 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. DC must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and importantly for the world to see. If DC doesn't get its act together and quickly, we'll have no choice. And then he goes into the messaging there. So now, Tom, what does it mean to federalize?

• 55:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Does that mean the government now starts controlling it over? By the way, is that Elon tweeting?

• 55:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he tweeted two Trumps tweet.

• 55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so a few days ago, Gang of About a Dozen Young Men tried to assault a woman in her car at night in DC. A Doge team member saw that was happening, ran to defend her, and was severely bitten, beaten to the point of concussion, but he saved her. It is time to federalize DC. So they're on the same page together on this thing here. What does this mean, Tom, and who's gonna be against it?

• 55:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, federalizing, so DC is a city. Cities normally are part of counties, and counties are part of states. So you usually have a governor, county laws, like sheriffs, and then the city.

• 56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the kid, by the way, Rob?

• 56:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, sir.

• 56:13Adam Sosnick?

  That's him.

• 56:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you zoom? So that's the kid after protecting the lady?

• 56:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 56:17Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what they did to him?

• 56:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you serious?

• 56:19Adam Sosnick?

  That's serious.

• 56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So can we find out about this 19 year old kid?

• 56:23Adam Sosnick?

  He's, you know, he's the Doge guy, the big, you know what?

• 56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I know. I want to know who he is. Can you pull up his name and just go, is this Edward Big Balls Korenstein?

• 56:30Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 56:30Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the guy.

• 56:31Adam Sosnick?

  That's him.

• 56:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So him, Edward, yeah, let's see who he is.

• 56:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's him.

• 56:36Patrick Bet-David?

  But I want to know who he is. Like, I actually want to read, who is this guy? Okay. So he was known as online Elias Big Balls. Is an American college on a program formerly pointed about Doge. And made a permanent federal employee with the title of senior advisor to the highest paid grade GS 15 in the General Services Administration at the end of May 2025. He was resigned weeks later in June before taking a job with Social Security Administration. Born, there was a father was a seal of lesser evil. The maternal grandfather, Valerie was a KGB lieutenant colonel executed by Soviet Union as a double agent. After his execution, his widow moved for her children in the United States, according to LinkedIn resume, courting graduated from ride country and attends Norton University. He enrolled in Norton University Mechanical Union. He expected your graduation.

• 57:19Patrick Bet-David?

  School friends described him as intelligent and driven while Elon Musk being a hero. Courting as a registered Republican. Interesting. Interesting. So Tom, so this guy gets beat up. That picture is tough to watch, by the way, with what happened to him. So good for him for being a hero. So Tom, who would be against it? Who doesn't want this thing to happen? The Democrats aren't going to want federalization. So all federalization means is that the city of Washington DC is not under any state. It's in the District of Columbia. Which means it does not have a state mechanism around it. Let's say there is a failure of a city in Florida. Let's use a fictitious example. The mayor of Fort Myers and the surrounding area

• 58:03Patrick Bet-David?

  has his family and his home washed out by a hurricane. The mayor can't perform, needs help. Governor DeSantis is down there with the, with the Florida resources to help the mayor. Makes sense? The state helps the city. The city governs the city with police. City police can't get the job done. County sheriffs, sheriff in the county, come out to assist.

• 58:27Tom Ellsworth?

  is just a city, but it's a failed city that doesn't have second level control. Federalization would mean that the federal government would act as the state like the DeSantis, helping a city that's been hit by a hurricane or civil unrest. That's what they're talking about. Now, the Democrats are saying, no, no, no, no, no. You know, leave them be, leave them be, because they used DC. The Democrats used DC for its little electoral vote. They used DC and it's never been anything but blue and it and the poverty and everything that's there is horrible. How's that working out for you, citizens of DC? How's that working out? But the Dems are going to be against it because they'd rather have victims at the

• 59:07Tom Ellsworth?

  voting booth than actually move things forward and have people look around and maybe move toward independent status. Pat, those are the people that don't want it. But DC clearly needs something like a state to help govern it, and that's what federalization would do because DC is not in a state. It's just a district of Columbia and a city.

• 59:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Penny, what do you think about this?

• 59:28Adam Sosnick?

  And well, again, you know, Adam always say, you say, follow the money. Who's the mayor? Let's follow the, who's the mayor? Muriel Bowser. Okay, she's been there since 2015 and we always talk about people that are voting these people in and doing all that said, there's three terms that have been happening with her. Okay, the city's gotten more dangerous, more expensive and more out of touch. And just a little background history in her.

• 59:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, my God.

• 59:48Adam Sosnick?

  She backed the criminal code to overhaul slash penalties for violent crimes. So she lowered sentences for carjacking, robberies and gun crimes. Number one, she pushed to defund the police. A mayor of a city was pushing to defund the police in 2020. She supported soft on crime prosecutors. Okay, and all this stuff. God, is that, it's not like DC got bad overnight. I'm not pulling all on her, but it's policies like hers that rot from the inside. And then, and again, keep voting for these people and you're going to keep getting it. So I'm pro Trump doing what he's going to do. Like enough is enough.

• 1:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  This lady won against Vincent Gray Democratic primary and he was incumbent. And won the general election against three independent and two minor candidates with 55% of the vote in 2018. That was in 14. 2018, she won her second term with 76.4% of the vote. In 2022, on her third term. She won 74.6% of the vote, Vinny. 74. Go a little bit lower up on that to see what it says on the bottom. Youngest of six children. Her father was a DC-based public advocate who worked for a public servant in a growing DC area. Born in DC, grew up in North Michigan. Very interesting. What school did she go to? Can we see what school she went to? Something University?

• 1:01:01Patrick Bet-David?

  She went to Chatham University, Chatham College in Pittsburgh. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:01:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I think Trump should follow through with federalizing DC. So, you know, we're all in America. We understand what a monopoly is. And antitrust laws are put in place to prevent companies from dominating industries. We always hear that Amazon is dominating the industry, Microsoft, Apple dominating the industry. What about politically? What about ideologically? Has DC ever had a conservative Republican mayor, ever? A lot of these cities out there, they're ideologically dominated by one party and we wonder why DC, LA, Philly, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Chicago, the list goes on and on and on, don't improve. And I used to always advocate, these are the best cities in America, biggest cities in America.

• 1:01:49Tom Ellsworth?

  But there's a big difference between the biggest and the best. Washington DC, I love DC. But DC is a city of complete paradox and contrast. It's basically suits by day and sirens by night. You're just walking around, you love it. It's history on every corner. As soon as night falls, it's like, run for shelter. You don't know what's coming around the next corner. Hide your kids, hide your wives. It is the most American city. Flags everywhere, patriotism everywhere, but then it's also the most liberal city. The most liberal cities in the country, by far and away, Washington DC, San Francisco, Berkeley area,

• 1:02:32Tom Ellsworth?

  and then Boston, Cambridge. It's the elite Ivory Coast university cities that basically have zero tolerance for an ideological difference. So the monopoly that they have on DC, I'd love to see it come to an end. I've never understood the voters. Marion Barry was elected mayor, then he ends up in, Doing crack! In jail. That's right. Is crack and, With Hunter Biden! And allegedly also using city funds allegedly.

• 1:03:02Tom Ellsworth?

  To pay for hookers, making him known as the Beducation President.

• 1:03:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:03:06Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, the Beducation Mayor.

• 1:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Great name.

• 1:03:08Tom Ellsworth?

  And then, his, his campaign slogan was, "I will get the drugs off the street and into my nose."

• 1:03:15Tom Ellsworth?

  And then, after he goes to jail, the people re-elected him. It's like, what are you doing? You're, it's just name recognition and looking back to that? So there was also this thing, it's like, you get what you vote for, and, and then, they all look back and say, "Now you've had two generations of failed schools, poverty, and all the problems go with it. How's it working out for you? When are the voters gonna wake up?"

• 1:03:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:38Tom Ellsworth?

  So, by the way, with, with, this whole conversation started with the kid that got beat up from Doge, and Elon Musk kinda weighed in. Sirens at night, as you say. Sirens at night. I mean, this is very common. By the way, did you see the stats about Elon Musk's favorability?

• 1:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Have you seen these numbers?

• 1:03:52Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna get to that.

• 1:03:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, gotcha.

• 1:03:53Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna get to that. We'll get to that story. So where I wanna go to after this on DC is the following. Vinnie tells me a video, uh, about three kids in Dallas at a Walgreens. Okay, Vinnie, you wanna tell us what happened here?

• 1:04:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Have you, okay, don't.

• 1:04:05Patrick Bet-David?

  I haven't seen this clip at all.

• 1:04:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so, there's three kids, they're, they're robbing, stealing from a Walgreens in Dallas. They get locked inside, okay? And instead of being scared, embarrassed, I'm gonna show you the attitude of them screaming, clowning the robbers, and, and threatening to attack them, okay? And then you got, just, and I'm, as a parent, you guys are parents? Rob, please tell me how you would feel, and I'm gonna get into what I think the parents and all that stuff, but, they, they just got caught, and they're locking them inside the Walgreens.

• 1:04:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:04:38Adam Sosnick?

  You got like 10 seconds to open up the door. I swear to God, I'm gonna break the door.

• 1:04:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What'd he say?

• 1:04:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm gonna break the door. 10 seconds.

• 1:04:45Adam Sosnick?

  Open your fucking door, I'm calling him.

• 1:04:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Him downstairs, that's him.

• 1:04:47Adam Sosnick?

  Get your, get your motherfucking house, show four out there.

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• 1:05:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Hey, you can open the door. Open the door.

• 1:05:50Adam Sosnick?

  Hey, you can open the door.

• 1:05:53Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna open up this door, 'cause I'm not playing.

• 1:05:55Tom Ellsworth?

  All I'm talking about is y'all gotta open it.

• 1:05:57Adam Sosnick?

  I'm not playing with y'all.

• 1:05:58Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how to count, you have had. Open the door.

• 1:06:01Adam Sosnick?

  I'll open up this door before we break this bitch. Look at that, dude. I'm gonna break something up in this bitch, I'm God.

• 1:06:07Adam Sosnick?

  You are so slow. Look, he wants to go hit her. I will break that bitch in with y'all. Do not play with those.

• 1:06:12Patrick Bet-David?

  No kid is born this way.

• 1:06:14Adam Sosnick?

  No, hell no.

• 1:06:15Patrick Bet-David?

  That's correct, these kids were made. No kid is born this way.

• 1:06:17Adam Sosnick?

  Look at that. I will trash this off.

• 1:06:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm closed, alright? We're... Alright. Who's boss?

• 1:06:23Adam Sosnick?

  Here's my question, buddy.

• 1:06:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that the only clip, Rob?

• 1:06:26Adam Sosnick?

  No, there's... God, Rob, this is them afterwards with the sister. She's going online, 'cause she's like, "People are talking crap about them. Let me post a video which doesn't help the case at all." Rob, play this one, this is the sister. This sister, she make more money than you. She got her own house. She pay her own bills. She got more shit than you. You broke, you ain't getting no more shit. And that was not food inside that bag, that was snacks and toys. Snacks and toys.

• 1:06:47Tom Ellsworth?

  And if it was, yeah, that's what child, y'all, like, the fuck? Matter of fact, everybody steals. Matter of fact, y'all got food.

• 1:06:52Adam Sosnick?

  Everybody steals.

• 1:06:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Everybody that knows, know y'all got food. Y'all grown people.

• 1:06:56Adam Sosnick?

  And by the way, she posts multiple videos of this. Hey, brother, this drove me crazy, 'cause, okay, let's just... I'm just gonna assume, who was outside waiting for them to drive them away? It wasn't the sister, maybe the mom? If she's still in the picture?

• 1:07:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:09Adam Sosnick?

  Okay? And like, and if I had to assume, like, you guys nailed it. How the hell do you get to that? How do we get to that behavior?

• 1:07:16Patrick Bet-David?

  You're taught.

• 1:07:17Adam Sosnick?

  You're taught.

• 1:07:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You're taught.

• 1:07:18Adam Sosnick?

  Where's the father?

• 1:07:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And you watch.

• 1:07:19Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, I'm gonna assume there's no father in the picture. Okay, this is, and this is an exact result of tearing down the nuclear family that we talked about uh, last week, and pretending it doesn't matter. That type of attitude. And then, this'll boil over and... to that situation where that guy that we saw they got pulled over Pat they got pulled over and that attitude that resentment that at time that close the door close the window smash in the window not listening to the police what do you think these kids are gonna turn into

• 1:07:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm cooperating I'm cooperating no you're not you're just sitting with your hands up in a dash cam

• 1:07:46Adam Sosnick?

  yeah with this with this attitude what are these poor kids and I feel bad for them what are they gonna turn into what are they gonna it's that it's that culture that's happening right now that's out of freaking control and and if you say anything you should see all the hate I got on Instagram because of the freaking guy that was pulled over and wasn't listening to the cops man you don't know nothing you racist wait till I see you it's like okay whatever what are those kids what's the

• 1:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  but I want to show you something gonna turn into they're already 80% of the way there I want to show you something I found this video a couple weeks ago this is in 1986 you're talking 40 years ago okay they're interviewing a bunch of single mothers okay and look how they're speaking go ahead Rob raise your hand if you're married none of you are married raise your hand if you would like to be married to your baby's father one the rest of you who don't plan to get married why don't you plan to get married I'd like to know that

• 1:08:46Speaker 00

  you you already have your child to think about and then a whole family to care for you know it's it's a lot of responsibility and then you don't want the commitments I wouldn't want no man holding me down because I I think I can make it as a single parent

• 1:09:04Patrick Bet-David?

  but don't you think you might need help in raising that baby from a man

• 1:09:07Speaker 00

  not really I didn't have a father my father wasn't in the home so no it it really male figures not substantially important in the family

• 1:09:20Patrick Bet-David?

  though you would not have heard such things said so freely because they were not embraced so widely the strong family was still the backbone of black America and three out of four children had

• 1:09:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Both parents at home. That is true no longer. Most black children are now growing up without their fathers. The result is a world turned upside down as children copy what they see and repeat what they learn. LaDon said she didn't have a father in her home and doesn't think her children need one. She's not unusual. Half the black families today are headed only by a woman.

• 1:09:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's eighty-six.

• 1:09:59Tom Ellsworth?

  She could make it on her own as a single parent. She has never been married and is raising her daughter without a man's help. She's not unusual. Today, nearly sixty percent of all black children are born out of wedlock.

• 1:10:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Unbelievable. That's eighty-six and it's not gotten better. So now what do you do? So now what do you do? So the same people they voted for came up with these policies that destroyed the incredibly conservative, strong disciplined African-American families that wore suits and ties. The way they dressed. Hey, boy, stand up. Carry yourself. I remember I met somebody when I was in the military, some of these, you know, folks I would meet, the level of discipline. Now you hear some of the stories because for every story like this you hear, you also hear stories about, you know, who the CEO of Lowe's is. Go to the CEO of Lowe's.

• 1:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Lowe's CEO is a man named Marvin Ellison, okay? He's been with them now for six or seven years if I'm not mistaken. This is a Fortune 100 company ran by Marvin Ellison. Do you know who his brother is? Can you type in Marvin Ellison's brother?

• 1:11:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I assume it's not Larry Ellison.

• 1:11:09Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not Larry Ellison, but Marvin Ellison's brother, you would know who he is. Marvin Ellison's brother is somebody, not this one, they have a couple of them.

• 1:11:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, Keith Ellison?

• 1:11:17Patrick Bet-David?

  We had him on the podcast, if you remember.

• 1:11:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Keith Ellison?

• 1:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Not, not Keith Ellison. We had, is, is it Vincent? Can you type in, Rob, if I'm not, Vince Ellison, yes. Do you guys remember when we had him on the podcast?

• 1:11:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, election night.

• 1:11:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Election night, yes.

• 1:11:33Tom Ellsworth?

  He's incredible.

• 1:11:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's his brother. Guys, no, what, what I'm trying to tell you.

• 1:11:37Tom Ellsworth?

  Good parenting.

• 1:11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, they were raised by incredible parents.

• 1:11:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, he's awesome.

• 1:11:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Incredible parents. Right values. You see where one of them is at the top. Fortune 100 CEO of a company since 2018. So. This is the stark difference between the two. But when you come up with bad policies, like, well, you know, Planned Parenthood, it's what we gotta do, so it's unfair, freedom of choice, oh, really? The whole purpose of Planned Parenthood was to eliminate African Americans. That's what the founder wanted. She wasn't there because she was so sentimental about the African American community. What percentage of abortions do you think happens from that? What percentage of abortions that Planned Parenthood does is African Americans? What is the number?

• 1:12:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Over forty percent.

• 1:12:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Over forty percent, guys.

• 1:12:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:12:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Over forty percent.

• 1:12:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Population's never been over sixteen.

• 1:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Then what do you do?

• 1:12:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Over forty percent of the customers.

• 1:12:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Add hip hop, add drugs, add taking entitlement value, add giving, you know, money for having kids out of wedlock. Add all this stuff, and then what do you do? You destroy an entire community of people who are being raised by them. I'm not saying everybody. Look at that number right there. Non-Hispanic black woman, forty-one percent of the abortions.

• 1:12:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and they're only seven percent of the country.

• 1:12:53Patrick Bet-David?

  They're only, no, they're not. African Americans, they're, you mean the women.

• 1:12:56Tom Ellsworth?

  African American women, thirteen percent of the country, exactly.

• 1:12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:13:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Meaning it's outkicking their coverage.

• 1:13:02Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand, I understand. But forty-one and a half percent of all the abortions is by black women. Then it's white women. Then it's Hispanic women. Then it's all the other races. How did we get here? How did this happen? Yeah, and these videos that you see with kids like talk like that. Like, wait, last night, I'm talking to Luke and Preston, right? Two boys coming up to me, the way, how respectful they are, right? Then you see these guys that are playing baseball, parents, you know, incredible people, the Gaetans. And then you have Chris and Lucina Hart, I see their kids. CJ, who's a boxer. They see you crossing the stage, you're on the stage, and all the stuff that they're saying. Man, I mean, this is a very different way of raising, and this is a real issue. So when you show me clips like this, and I'm just like, well, you know, it's racist, it's this, it's that.

• 1:13:47Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's called a representation. I'm Armenian, go to Glendale. In Glendale, look how much medical fraud you'll hear on the insurance side with Armenians. Some of it is right of what happened. How many people took advantage of it? It's true. Those stereotypes come because some of it is true. You go look at folks that are, you know, terrorists, blowing things up. What are they? Are they Mormons? Are they Jews? Are they Christians? What are they? When you hear that phrase? Muslim extremist. These stereotypes that you go and look like, hey, man, pull your pants up. Walk up straight. Talk, stop using the slang words. It's not the kids' fault. That's how he heard everybody talk.

• 1:14:32Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, gangster rap, when you listen to, you speak a certain language, who become your heroes. So to me, when I see videos like that, Vinny, it's very disturbing.

• 1:14:39Adam Sosnick?

  I, I

• 1:14:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Because it's not the kids' fault, man. It's the parents. The parents did that. They learned that from somebody.

• 1:14:43Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:43Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a learned habit.

• 1:14:44Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. And, and, and you know what? I want to piggyback and then, because you said, how? And why? Like, to me, and it's, please tell me if, if you're kind of following me. It's as if the government, that's the plan. They, they want to remove the father. That's why they always push this single, you could do a girl, do it by yourself. They create confusion, okay? And then the state steps in as your daddy. So then they go to school, they learn, you know, the school, the media, and the government, they become the authority. And that's how you build a society that listens to the politicians? Instead of listening to their own blood. Am I?

• 1:15:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I appreciate you use the word society, because there's two things that have absolutely destroyed the African-American community. Now, they will read, I'm gonna first go to something. They will read talking points. Oh, it was, you know, companies pulled money out of Cleveland, pulled money out of Pittsburgh, out of downtown, and it left no jobs. No. The Great Society under Lyndon Johnson and Planned Parenthood are the two greatest impacts on the African-American community that was assimilating, getting through Civil Rights Chapter of America, and moving forward, as Pat pointed out, dressed in suits, going to church. You know, they were very respectful with everybody. People were respectful with them.

• 1:15:55Tom Ellsworth?

  And those two things, The Great Society under Lyndon Johnson, which was a lie below the surface, and Planned Parenthood, have taken it here. Everything else that we're seeing downstream is now an, an artifact of that. But they're responsible to it. It may not be your fault, but it is your reality, is what every person has to face. Look at, look at Gabe, a man I love and respect. It wasn't his fault that the, the, the country and the government was Shifting in Iran, but it was his reality and he had to go do something and make hard choices and get himself out of it because he said, I'm not going to continue here. All of us have faced that, some deeper than others, but what you're talking about is exactly right. It's exactly right.

• 1:16:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to go to the next story here. Elon Musk, story comes out and Adam, I'm coming to you first on this one. Elon Musk is officially the most unpopular public figure in America. Okay. If you want to go to a rap on, uh, do you have a video on that or no?

• 1:16:53Tom Ellsworth?

  I do.

• 1:16:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Think you have a video on that. Let me read the story and then we'll go to the video. So Elon Musk, richest man in the world, a gallipole conducted between July 7th and July 21st found that Tesla CEO Elon Musk is the most unpopular public figure in America with 61% of respondents holding an unfavorable opinion, 6% have no opinion, and only 33% reporting a positive view, marking a decline from his net favorability rating of minus 4% in January, minus 28% now. Damn, that's a plus minus of 24. Musk's unpopularity surpasses even Israelis Prime Minister Biden. Wow. He's ahead of Netanyahu? Where do you see that?

• 1:17:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Right down here at the bottom.

• 1:17:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Marco Rubio was ahead of Trump? How?

• 1:17:32Adam Sosnick?

  What the heck?

• 1:17:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Then as Pete Heck said, Newsom, JD Vance, Joe Biden, RFK, AOC, Macron, Bernie, Zelensky, Pope, Leo.

• 1:17:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Very interesting when you see a list like this. And then Democrats giving him a minus 86 net favorability, returned to alignment with president from his role as a special government employee heading do. So Adam, why do you think his net favorability is worse than Bibi, than Rubio, than Trump?

• 1:17:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, be careful when you get into politics. Elon Musk, a few short years ago, he went from being Iron Man to basically being internet troll to political, politically disobedient to basically out of the White House. Elon Musk was the darling.

• 1:18:13Adam Sosnick?

  of the left. Think about what he's built. EVs, green, technology, Silicon Valley. He moved out of California into Dallas, got into the political limelight. Okay, Austin, I apologize. Moved into political limelight.

• 1:18:31Adam Sosnick?

  Combined with Trump, dark MAGA, and these are the ramifications of basically getting involved in politics. You say, you know, Pat, you always talk about, you know, no matter what you do, no matter business, what you're in, you're in politics. Yes. Behind the scenes, you're in politics. When you step into the limelight and you're involved in politics and you make an endorsement like this. You know who the most vicious, vicious people are? The hardcore left. They're the most unforgiving, cancel culture. If you do them wrong, they will never forgive you. Yeah, don't step out of line. Exactly. The hardcore right, they might say they disagree with you, they want nothing to do with you, but they're not going to just be trolling you all day. Elon Musk, this is, have you heard of anything from Elon in the last month?

• 1:19:16Adam Sosnick?

  He only talks about rockets, only rockets and Mars. Incredibly quiet politically, and he's been focused on business. My opinion, I think stakeholders, shareholders, board of directors. They're all saying, listen, guy. You're the richest man in the world. Do you want to stay the richest man in the world? Do you want your companies to be the richest companies in the world? Get out of politics. So Elon is now facing the music, two to one. Two to one is unfavorability ratings, meaning two people hate him for every one person that likes him. That's not a good look for him. But I mean, but at the end of the day, though, you have to admit, though, that this guy played a huge, huge role in getting this guy, Donald Trump, into the White House, okay? Two hundred and fifty million dollars. Dude, that's not, by the way, that is not Trump change, Adam. That's ridiculous, bro. Listen, two fifty, hundred million is what it used to be, buddy.

• 1:20:01Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, exactly. But my point is like, I could understand why, why, how do you get to that level? Okay, everybody was loving him, except obviously the left, because they, they got in Hitler, you know what I mean? Trump was Hitler. And then, I mean, they just went after him. Any movement that he did, they're like, oh, that's a Nazi salute. That's that. So you can see it's manufactured, but the same token. When you don't, when you give two hundred and fifty Million dollars and you help somebody get in then that that person gets in at him and doesn't do what you say and then you get into a fight allegedly in the White House you get punched in the face and you have a black eye and the fallout is that guy who's the most popular president I think in the history of the world of America that guy turns on you of course it's gonna look bad for you bro they made they made Teslas how for how

• 1:20:43Adam Sosnick?

  many months were Teslas getting firebombed and and and

• 1:20:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Cybertrucks

• 1:20:47Adam Sosnick?

  Cybertrucks

• 1:20:48Tom Ellsworth?

  It's still happening by the way

• 1:20:49Adam Sosnick?

  It's still happening because they made everybody hate this guy and love him or hate him bro this guy saved us from a Kamala Joe Biden whatever the hell you want to talk about it say what you want they want to hate him do not forget this guy put his money where his mouth is and saved us for that moment in history that guy saved us Also allowed freedom of speech on Twitter Dude so I can't I I don't understand how could he be hated more than some of these others names that Pat listed

• 1:21:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well you know in politics no good deed will go unpunished and um he certainly was huge in the election helping the Dems already hated him

• 1:21:25Adam Sosnick?

  Of course

• 1:21:25Tom Ellsworth?

  The Dems already hated him they were and Doge and everything about it they were already all over Tesla but then what happened so now let's go to the poll what's in the poll words talk numbers scream screw the headlines let's dive into the numbers you are already gonna have a big negative polling difference you know on the people that disapprove versus approve you're being negative with the Dems and then when you go up against Trump what happened with one third to one half of the Republican voters

• 1:21:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yep

• 1:21:56Tom Ellsworth?

  They went negative

• 1:21:57Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly

• 1:21:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And so guess what two negative and then one negative is three negative and congratulations you have a minus 28 the numbers are very simple he went up against the hero of most of the Republican parties who wanted him in in the White House who wanted the change this is what I voted for including this man that's what I was saying in April I didn't give a very good grade based on execution but I said this is what I voted for close borders what I voted for driving international trade and being not America only but America first that's what I voted for was it messy yes and guess what Elon went up against some of that

• 1:22:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah

• 1:22:39Tom Ellsworth?

  So now the numbers show that he's highly negative

• 1:22:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah so so to me um

• 1:22:45Patrick Bet-David?

  I think there's a completely different side of it as well. When you're going through this. By the way, just so you know. If you're on this list. At least you're on this list. Period. Okay, so. Folks, your name's not on this list for a reason. Most people's names are not on this list for a reason. This list also says influence. If you're on this list, loved or hated, favorable or unfavorable. The one score that they're not putting, it's also saying that these are some of the most influential people. In the world. That's also what this says. This is influence. That comes with it. You're gonna fumble, you're gonna screw up, you're gonna go through your mistakes. At times. You know, you can also.

• 1:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Go through a certain thing. Remember lost. Elon found. Got a cause, he committed. Lifestyle, graduate lifestyle. Then it's.

• 1:23:41Adam Sosnick?

  Too much.

• 1:23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's me, I don't, I'm just saying, we all, you know, so then. Maybe you think you're bigger than Trump. And you're not, and the market said, look, we, you're very important. Very. You know, maybe he doesn't one without you. I would say that. He played a very important role. It definitely doesn't happen if he doesn't buy X. Cause if he doesn't buy X. And doesn't bring back Alex Jones. The Tates. The bunch of other people who are loud. Who are finally back on X, they got their voice back, and it's still being ran by the old guy, not Dorsey, the other Indian guy, I don't remember his name, but you know who I'm talking about. And there's still Twitter files going on. And then Facebook's forced to open up Trump. Instagram opens up Trump.

• 1:24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  YouTube no longer, flags, a lot of this stuff that we're saying, that doesn't happen without Elon.

• 1:24:31Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 1:24:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Very, very, and the day Elon was buying. Twitter, I called every single bank to try to give 10 million dollars to go on because I'm in. On this guy being a great operator. And I don't even remember, you guys, I talked about it on the podcast, October of 2022. I'm calling everybody, if you know, I want to give you 10 million. And the only person that was doing it was Kathy, what was the girl's name, some, uh.

• 1:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  Kathy Wood from ARC.

• 1:24:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Kathy Wood from ARC, that you, the way you were buying it was very weird, and I didn't want to get involved in that. So I'm a supporter and a believer in what he's doing as an operator. But at the same time, one man took bullets. And almost died. And one man at the age of 79 years old campaigned nonstop after going through everything that he went through since 2016 when Elon didn't support him. When Elon did say a lot of different things and he fought and they finally flipped. So it's very important to realize today it's his season. We're backstage yesterday with Swazo, Ellis, and Okafor and Hart. And I'm like, so what do you think about the event? He says, I believe this is the, we're back.

• 1:25:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, we're back to what? He says, this reminds me of 2019 when the late Kobe was there and you know, Bush and all this other stuff. I said, who was number one in 2019? They start giving me the names. I say, who, who are the top five today? Not them. I said, what happened? It's not their show today. It's your show today, right? They were hosting the event last night in front of everybody. Today, it's Trump's show. Not yours. It doesn't mean it's going to be Trump's show in 2028, but today's Trump's show. It, it doesn't mean that Trump's going to be more influential in 2029 than Elon. Elon could be more influential than Elon and, and then Trump in 2029. But today, it's not your term. And turn.

• 1:26:19Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not. Rubio understood that. JD is understanding that. DeSantis absolutely didn't understand that because he crushed it at the best state thinking he's bigger than Trump and he was destroyed. Destroyed. Where he, you know, people are like, dude, I don't like the way you're handling yourself. Floridians love the guy, but at the national level, no. So sometimes when you're in your own community and people tell you how amazing you are, you start thinking you're bigger than, you're not. Trump is the alpha amongst alphas today. He won't be forever, but it's his season today. And I'm not surprised that his unfavorability is here, although I don't think it's going

• 1:27:01Patrick Bet-David?

  to stay, stay there forever because when he made the tweet about he's on the Epstein list, Trump, wait till this gets dropped. Trump was asked about Elon. And Rob, do you have the clip of Trump's being asked about Elon? This is it. And he says, so what do you think about Elon Musk and what happened here? Look at the graceful answer that Trump gives. Go for it. Yeah, please.

• 1:27:20Tom Ellsworth?

  A new Gallup poll says that Elon Musk is the most unpopular public figure in the country right now. I'm wondering, do you miss having him around the White House or is that poll accurate?

• 1:27:32Speaker 05

  I don't know if the polls accurate. I think he's a good person. I think he had a bad moment, really bad moment. But he's a good person. I think, I believe that.

• 1:27:41Adam Sosnick?

  That is such a non-what-we're-used-to-Trump answer. Think about how much more improved and how measured to use the word grace Trump is. The old Trump would have been like, loser, get him out of here, get out of here, little rocket boy. You gotta give Trump a little respect for the way he is handling this situation. This situation. Musk said that he was on the Epstein list, gave a peace sign, walked out the door, and Trump has the grace.

• 1:28:08Patrick Bet-David?

  In the history of mankind.

• 1:28:10Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:28:11Patrick Bet-David?

  There has never been a more battle-tested politically with limelight than him. I'm not talking war. You could say Patton, you could say Mattis, you could say a lot of different guys.

• 1:28:21Adam Sosnick?

  You're saying limelight.

• 1:28:21Patrick Bet-David?

  When it comes down to a limelight in the history of mankind, let me say this to you. When it comes to the history of mankind, under limelight, not a single soul has been more battle-tested than Trump. Nobody, not a soul. Give me a name. I want you, I want you to actually think about top five.

• 1:28:41Adam Sosnick?

  You cannot.

• 1:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a name. Give me who's a top five. Bush? No. Obama? No. Obama never had a career before. Nobody knew who he was until his speech in '04 at the DNC. Nobody has experienced more of people targeting him.

• 1:28:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yes.

• 1:28:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Than Donald Trump. He is so battle-tested. So to him, a question like this is like it's a regular Tuesday. What do you, okay, yeah, well, I think it was a bad deed that he had. I think he's a good guy. I think he's a good guy. Next. Seven-second answer.

• 1:29:07Adam Sosnick?

  But even though he has been battle-tested, that's undisputable.

• 1:29:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:10Adam Sosnick?

  The grace that he's showing now, this, the Trump 2.0 is such a better presidency than Trump 1.0.

• 1:29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  But because he doesn't have to get re-elected.

• 1:29:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah. Well, that's even.

• 1:29:21Patrick Bet-David?

  He's done.

• 1:29:22Adam Sosnick?

  But that is the, the most important thing, though. Because think about it.

• 1:29:26Tom Ellsworth?

  If you had to be reelected, that's when you would say, you know what, let me have a little grace and be a little more distinguished.

• 1:29:31Patrick Bet-David?

  But hear me out.

• 1:29:32Tom Ellsworth?

  The fact that he doesn't have to be that way is why I respect.

• 1:29:34Patrick Bet-David?

  You ready? Let's go through the whole thing from the day the president chose to run. Lost.

• 1:29:38Tom Ellsworth?

  In 2015, you mean?

• 1:29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Found.

• 1:29:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 1:29:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Committed, he's running. Lifestyle, he wins, he's everywhere. Then, entitled, bored, it's me, rebellion, it's unfair, it's unfair, it's unfair. Then he gets the break. What's the best job you ever had? I've never had a better job of being a president.

• 1:29:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Legacy.

• 1:29:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Then he comes back, it's a legacy and history. He is all about legacy and history and a part of being a legacy and history is to learn how to manage team of rivals and he's doing it. And you got a problem.

• 1:30:09Adam Sosnick?

  On the power versus force chart, I was trying to think when you started talking about him, where would you put Trump right now in the chart? And Rob, if you can, Rob, but the power versus.

• 1:30:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Great question, Vincent.

• 1:30:18Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I could, well, think about, we talked about it and I know we talked about us about two, three weeks ago, Pat. I want you, I want to know Trump right now with the battle tested with everything that he's been going through, from the hate, from destroying him with his money, from the lawfare, from the bullet to his head, to where he's at right now, even talking kindly about a guy that basically called him a pedophile. Where, where are you?

• 1:30:37Patrick Bet-David?

  On any, on any given day, he can go up to willing, I think that's it.

• 1:30:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Huh, no.

• 1:30:47Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I would maybe go acceptance, reason on some things, but I'm, I'm just.

• 1:30:53Adam Sosnick?

  He's floating on acceptance and reason.

• 1:30:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I think he's between willing and reason.

• 1:30:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I gotta tell you, I think he's somewhere sometimes between the love and joy. I don't think he's got peace, I don't, I think he's running and gunning.

• 1:31:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think he's there.

• 1:31:04Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he said, I love the word love, I love tariffs more.

• 1:31:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, he loves tariffs.

• 1:31:07Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think he's there yet. I don't think he's there.

• 1:31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Really? You don't think he's that high?

• 1:31:10Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I don't think he's there yet because in his mind, when you're still in, like right now, we had a call yesterday, it was an intense call yesterday, first thing in the morning, was it yesterday or the day before? I was probably.

• 1:31:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yesterday morning.

• 1:31:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Tough morning because we had to overcome a, a, a, one of the 20 crises, literally was one of the 20, I'm telling you, it was one of the 20 crises you experience in business. And I'm probably going to share it with you guys on, on the webinar that I do. And by the way, if you're not registered for it, I want to give you this white paper. If you're running a business, you have to know these 20 threats because it's going to affect your business. And it costs us a lot of money every time we, a lot of money every time we go through it. Well, we had this call and we're going through it, right?

• 1:31:47Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said something to my guys. I said, can I ask you a question? I said, so we've known about this since Friday. You haven't called me? Yes. Why is that? Are you not calling me because you don't want to bother me because I'm running it with my insurance company? I said, there's one person in the company, and it's only one person, that you get to call him if there's a problem, a tier one problem on his birthday, on his anniversary, on vacation, on a company trip. He's in Italy, he's in Monaco, he's in Australia. There's only one person. Because my guys were like, I was very surprised. You never called me when I was on PTO and I was on vacation. I said, yes, I don't want to call you because I want you to enjoy your PTO. If a tier one crisis happened, I will call you. But I'm not the guy that calls you if not tier one crisis. I'm a leader. We'll handle it, right?

• 1:32:29Patrick Bet-David?

  But for you, you don't get to treat me that way. I'm the flipping founder. You gotta get those calls. You call me. Yeah. Don't feel sorry for me. Don't feel, I chose this job because I freaking love it. He's still in the grind. There's still 90% of stuff that's not done yet. He still has to be an asshole at times. He still has to push the envelope at times. He still has to push people on at times. He still has to do that. That's why he's not there yet. Once he gets to the point that he knows some of these tariffs, the Panama Canal, some of these things are done, the peace is coming, I think you are gonna see him going there. I don't think he's fully there yet. That's why he still, he still can't show too much love and joy. You can't. You still have to show unpredictability. You're dealing with a guy named Putin. The other day Putin and them are talking to each other,

• 1:33:14Patrick Bet-David?

  and it's like, hey, you know, who called too? Because this whole story about Putin and Trump envoy hold productive meeting on Ukraine as US deadline nears. He still hasn't finished. So you want him to show joy and peace? You can't show that. You can have it internally, but you gotta keep it to yourself. When you're raising your kids and you have boys, you gotta still show toughness. So this story comes out that, you know, Russia issues nuclear weapons warning, no limits. And then Putin is asked a question on this meeting that they're gonna be having. I'll read it to you, and I want Rob, if you can find a clip. So. Президент Путин встретил с Трампом специальный эмбэйда Стив Уитков в Москве в воскресенье, когда посредник внешней политики Путина Юрий Ушаков заявил,

• 1:33:58Patrick Bet-David?

  что Россия отправила сигналы на американский сторону на вопрос Украины и получила соответствующие сигналы от Трампа, описавший тричасовую встречу как продуктивную. Также встреча, проведенная в ходе которой были присутствовали высокоположные российские офицеры, Киро Димитров, сосредоточенные на Украине и на prospectsах российско-американской стратегической сотрудничества. Как Вашингтон пресса приглашает в мирное смерти перед датой Трампа в пятницу, хотя в обсуждениях Трампа внесли дополнительный 25% тариф в Индию для покупки российского нефтяного масла, называя их "машиной российской войны". Так, Роб, если вы можете посмотреть клип, который у вас есть. Это President Путин спрашивает о встрече. Поехали.

• 1:34:39Speaker 05

  [Голос за кадром: Извините, что прерываю такую интеллектуальную эскорсию, но в следе последних новостей я буду говорить о ваших двумя встречах с Трампом. А кто был инициатором этого замка?]

• 1:34:50Adam Sosnick?

  Заинтересованность была проявлена с обеих сторон. Что там, какое слово сказал? Первым это уже не имеется, чем это.

• 1:34:58Speaker 05

  А можете уточнить, что ваша помощь будет по следующей, скорее всего, а где, хотя бы нами нужно место?

• 1:35:05Adam Sosnick?

  У нас много друзей, которые готовы нам помочь организовать много проявлений подобного рода. Вот один из друзей президент обденных арабских эмиратов. Я думаю, что мы решим, но это было бы одним из подходящих, вполне подходящих ответственных.

• 1:35:27Speaker 05

  А что Зеленцев?

• 1:35:29Adam Sosnick?

  Я уже говорил неоднократно, что я ничего в целом не имею против, это возможно, но для этого должны быть созданы определенные условия.

• 1:35:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Вы можете поставить это прямо здесь. Так, вы знаете, когда я был с Президентом на подкасте, я показал клип, где я сказал: "Президент, это только раз, когда я когда-либо видел, как он становится эмоциональным". Вы помните это, Роб, в подкасте, когда я показал? Да. И я показал ему клип. Я не знаю, если вы помните. Я любил это. Я любил этот клип. Я показал ему клип, и я заметил, что... Роб, есть ли способ, чтобы вы могли найти этот клип? Я собираюсь найти его прямо сейчас. Я показал ему клип, и я такой: "Видно, что вы становитесь эмоциональным, потому что вы не可以说 на то, как аудитория реагирует на вас".

• 1:36:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And I said, can you please watch this? So he watches this, and you see him go like this. He crosses his arms and he's watching it. You can tell. You can tell he's holding back. Okay? You can tell he's holding back as he's getting emotional when I'm showing this clip.

• 1:36:36Adam Sosnick?

  What did you ask him at that point?

• 1:36:38Patrick Bet-David?

  I, I, I, I wanted to see if, if there was gonna be an element of him showing the vulnerable side of him for America to fall in love with the fact that this man also has feelings and emotion, his life is also hard. It's when I talked about the fact that a father goes through, yeah, this is it. Can you back up a little bit, Rob?

• 1:36:56Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 1:36:57Patrick Bet-David?

  You're so good at finding this stuff, Rob. Go back a little bit.

• 1:36:59Adam Sosnick?

  This is, I love this.

• 1:37:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. And I just want you to see his body language. Can you go back when I start saying it? Go ahead, watch this. To you. And I said, wow, okay, this is South, so this is Rapid City, South Dakota. You're speaking, and all of a sudden you have this moment. If you can play this clip, I want to get a reaction to this. Go forward, Rob.

• 1:37:21Speaker 05

  And help build America into the greatest nation in the history of the world.

• 1:37:31Adam Sosnick?

  That music. This is when he was going through it.

• 1:37:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I hope it shows.

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• 1:38:39Tom Ellsworth?

  If that music will get you, man.

• 1:38:40Adam Sosnick?

  Look at, look at, like he's really like, damn.

• 1:38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at it, you see it?

• 1:38:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Reflecting, reflecting.

• 1:38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Emotional.

• 1:38:50Adam Sosnick?

  Like what he's done for, for the country.

• 1:38:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Some people would be crying right now.

• 1:38:59Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he is crying.

• 1:39:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  You just don't see it.

• 1:39:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:39:02Patrick Bet-David?

  No, let it keep going.

• 1:39:03Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, keep going. Look at his arms crossed.

• 1:39:05Adam Sosnick?

  Look at his arms.

• 1:39:06Speaker 05

  Well, let me explain. So, I think I'm the only politician that ever spoke to music before. And I do that sometimes at the end of some of the rallies.

• 1:39:21Patrick Bet-David?

  I wish we could show the video while he's watching himself because his arms weren't crossed.

• 1:39:25Adam Sosnick?

  He started doing.

• 1:39:26Patrick Bet-David?

  He's holding himself back and he knows he can't show it. You know why he can't show it? Let me explain to you why. He's in a, again, this is my analysis, so it could be fully off. In that mode, he knows deep down inside it's love and joy and he wants to show emotion. But he knows he can't show it to his enemies. You cannot show that you have that. They can only see the psycho side of you. You cannot show love. You have to sometimes show a little bit of anger and pride. You have to. That's used every once in a while for them to know you're crazy. You ever seen that scene with Christopher Walken in The Lion when he's telling that story?

• 1:40:06Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, I love it.

• 1:40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Have you ever seen?

• 1:40:07Adam Sosnick?

  Which movie?

• 1:40:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, type in Christopher Walken Lion.

• 1:40:11Adam Sosnick?

  Oh.

• 1:40:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You ever seen this?

• 1:40:12Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, Adam's gonna love it.

• 1:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, let me, let me tell you, Rob. If you just go on, if you go on. So this, this is the part about.

• 1:40:18Adam Sosnick?

  Lion.

• 1:40:19Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the one, Rob. Right, it's the one. Let the commercial go.

• 1:40:22Adam Sosnick?

  You know.

• 1:40:24Patrick Bet-David?

  This, this, this validates what he had to do. If you, is that, is that the?

• 1:40:28Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know. Is it, is it?

• 1:40:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Is it this part? Is that the scene? Oh, listen, the audience has to, has to.

• 1:40:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:40:37Patrick Bet-David?

  See The Lion's speech.

• 1:40:38Adam Sosnick?

  But I think I have, I have it. I'm sending it to Rob.

• 1:40:39Tom Ellsworth?

  The pool movie.

• 1:40:41Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, I just sent it to you.

• 1:40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You, you talking about from the one on X?

• 1:40:45Adam Sosnick?

  Rob, just make sure. I'm almost positive that's it.

• 1:40:47Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, she's not just another notch on your belt.

• 1:40:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, Robbie, that's it.

• 1:40:50Patrick Bet-David?

  That's not the one. Terrible timing, Adam. But this is a different. Watch this one here.

• 1:40:54Adam Sosnick?

  This one.

• 1:40:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this one here. This, this is.

• 1:40:59Adam Sosnick?

  This is it.

• 1:41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 1:41:01Adam Sosnick?

  Full hall junkies.

• 1:41:02Speaker 05

  Get this lion.

• 1:41:05Speaker 05

  He's the king of the jungle. Huge mane out there. He's laying down under a tree. In the middle of Africa. He's so big. He's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now, the little lion cubs, they start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears. He doesn't do anything. The lioness. She starts messing with him. Coming over, making trouble. Still, nothing. Now, the other animals, they notice this. And they start to move in. The jackals.

• 1:41:47Speaker 05

  Hyenas. Barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes. And eat the food that's in his domain. They do this. And they get closer and closer and bolder and bolder. Till one day.

• 1:42:05Speaker 05

  That lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody. Runs like the wind. Eats everything in his path. Cause every once in a while. The lion has to show the jackals.

• 1:42:19Speaker 05

  Who he is.

• 1:42:21Adam Sosnick?

  Wow. Wow.

• 1:42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it.

• 1:42:25Adam Sosnick?

  What a freaking scene.

• 1:42:26Patrick Bet-David?

  You can't, so as much as you as a leader are going through a love and joy mode. Your enemies can't see it. If they see it, they will exploit it. So as much as he may be internally there. You have to stay in psycho mode right now. He cannot show any of that. And I think he is so aware of it. I think he is so aware of it. And when he snapped at Elon. He knew. He had to show everybody, hey guys. I know you're thinking, you're the reason why I got elected. I'm the one that took the freaking three bullets. I'm the lion. I'm the one that the bullets were shot at me. I'm the one that three times on my life, not you. I'm the one that at 70 years old, I decided to campaign. None of you guys were supporting me. You guys are all standing here. I'm the one that Tulsi was against.

• 1:43:10Patrick Bet-David?

  JD was against. Rubio was against. RFK was against. Elon was against. I'm that guy. And then you guys have joined my team. I'm the lion.

• 1:43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  He can't show that. He has to show anger at times. He has to show pride at times. He has to be unpredictable a lot of times, and he gets it. So he understands this. So when they're having this whole thing with Putin, they're going back and forth. Putin, exactly. Because Putin's a lion as well. He is. With zero emotions. He is. He is. He totally is. But I'm telling you, I'm convinced also Putin's at a level right now where the level of mutual respect is there. There's no question about it. And the only thing that Putin has an edge over Trump is one thing. He knows Trump's got three and a half years. Yeah, exactly. And Putin does not. Putin knows what's going on with election. Rob, what is this one here?

• 1:43:57Tom Ellsworth?

  This is Peter Doocy explaining how the Russian, the Trump-Putin meeting came about yesterday at the White House. Earlier today in Moscow, Steve Witkoff was told by Vladimir Putin that Putin wants to meet at some point with Trump. Witkoff then relayed that message to the president, who is open to it, the possibility of a meeting as soon as next week, if the result of that meeting will be an end to the war in Ukraine. We know that President Trump was on a phone call with Vladimir Zelensky and some European leaders. He shared this with all of them. We don't know exactly where in the world it would be. It could be anywhere, could be at the White House, could be in a neutral country like Qatar or Switzerland or something,

• 1:44:42Tom Ellsworth?

  the people that normally host things like this. And I have a statement from Caroline Levitt, hot off the presses, haven't seen this anywhere. It says, "As President Trump said earlier today on Truth Social, great progress was made during special envoy Witkoff's meeting with President Putin. The Russians expressed their desire to meet with President Trump, and the president is open to meeting with both President Putin and President Zelensky. President Trump wants this brutal war to end." And so the emphasis there is on the Russians making this request, but President Trump obviously being open enough to it that there could be a global summit between Putin, Trump, and Zelensky as soon as next week. But there's

• 1:45:22Tom Ellsworth?

  also a possibility that it slides, and there's also a possibility that it never happens.

• 1:45:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So what do you think? You think any progress is going to be made here? Because just last week, what did President Trump do? Oh, you're gonna be doing this? No problem. I'm pulling up two of my nuclear subs to be right by you. I have that. Yeah, you have that? Go ahead and play this clip.

• 1:45:42Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, well, we had to do that. We just have to be careful. And a threat was made, and we didn't think it was appropriate, so I have to be very careful. So I do that on the basis of safety for our people. A threat was made by a former president of Russia, and we're going to protect our people.

• 1:46:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Good. That's how you react to it. Tom, your thoughts?

• 1:46:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, I love how the president speaks. He used the word careful twice. He used the word threat three times. So it was not brash, saying, they're not coming to the negotiating table. I gotta let them know who's in charge. That's not what he said. A threat was made. We didn't think it was appropriate. We need to be careful. So in the news, the headlines from the liberal left, what have you believed? This is an unhinged president, and here he goes again. But what really is happening is he's taking a very measured, thoughtful, step-by-step approach to what's going on. And what happens four days after the subs move?

• 1:46:40Adam Sosnick?

  What happened after?

• 1:46:42Tom Ellsworth?

  We just saw the clip. You know, maybe we'll meet here, maybe we'll meet. And by the way, when Peter Doocy says Qatar, half the media says Qatar, the other half says Qatar.

• 1:46:51Adam Sosnick?

  Qatar, yeah, so lazy.

• 1:46:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Right. So it's, um, well, there was an ambassador during the Gulf War that corrected the American media and said it's pronounced Qatar. And so most of the old-school media says Qatar. So when you hear that, that's people that are reacting to that. But I thought it was very measured. I really like the leadership that it shows.

• 1:47:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And will anything happen? That's the question. Will anything happen?

• 1:47:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, so I'll go to that. I think we're going to get a summit. I think we're going to get a summit because, look, conscription is happening. Both Zelensky, Ukraine, and Russia are losing the hearts of their people because of conscription, the people that they're having to haul off in the vans. And they have the issues that America had in 1969 with the draft, right? And people protesting the draft in the Kent State, the four students that were shot by the National Guard in Kent State. So they have issues and reasons, both economic, local, political. Politics to come together and I think that all of the wins that Trump has been having Pat is

• 1:47:58Tom Ellsworth?

  making him stronger on the world stage. All of these trade wins, trade wins are made with governments. He's winning with governments. And so I believe the body language, everything I'm seeing here. My opinion, I think we're going to get a summit and I think Trump is going to be the arbiter in the middle of that summit.

• 1:48:17Adam Sosnick?

  But Tom, here's my question too, and Adam, sorry to cut you off, but Tom, and I know where Pat's going. It's, do you think, okay, they're in the room. It's Trump, it's Zelensky, it's Putin. What has to be, because I personally don't feel Putin's going to budge at all. Putin's that guy, his attitude is going to be, listen, I told you guys, stop pushing NATO, don't push the, you guys said you weren't going to move an inch. You guys are keep doing this, everybody's kind of teaming up against us and I warned you, I told you guys not to do it. You guys forced my hand. So what's, I think Zelensky's going to have to bow down and, and, and.

• 1:48:47Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree with that. Do you think Zelensky's gaining or losing energy and power?

• 1:48:51Adam Sosnick?

  He's loo, he's losing not only support, he's losing the energy. I think it's over because especially with Trump and now, Zelensky's not this, you know, uh, this like force, this like, remember they were, they were showing him at the Oscars.

• 1:49:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Go Google Zelensky to be replaced. There's been factions in the government there that are talking about forcing a replacement of Zelensky. So he has got little stories that are leaking out now from his own government about it. And I agree with you. I don't think Putin backs down. I think Putin will accommodate, but he, he's got to keep his strong man persona because he's never going to give that up.

• 1:49:27Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:28Tom Ellsworth?

  And I think Zelensky's the one that backs down, but he doesn't like just.

• 1:49:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you. Yeah, let me tell you, if, if I'm, if I'm Putin and Zelensky comes and pulls off an act the way that he did.

• 1:49:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Putin's not gonna take it the same way Trump's gonna take it. I mean, it's just not gonna happen that way. If he comes up and he behaves the way that he did.

• 1:49:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Like this attitude.

• 1:49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  And he gives all the attitude and acts like a diva, not dressed in a suit, all the bullshit stuff that he does. I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm at a point that Trump's camp is talking to Zelensky to say, you better get your act together, or else I'm gonna put a 50% tariff on you. And you better put on a suit, you better look sharp, you better come ready, or else, I swear to God, if you pull off an escapade, the way you did with us at the White House, I'm gonna destroy you. I have a feeling that message needs to be given to Zelensky. If Zelensky doesn't hear that and he comes and does that to Putin, it's gonna be like, I don't trust Tom, Trump anymore. You don't care, you can, you can't get your guy in check.

• 1:50:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I think there needs to be something like that, um, happening, and I think that'll, that'll prevent Putin from wanting to be a part of it.

• 1:50:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I, I agree with that, and I think all Putin needs is a wink from the West, and he will go do what he's wanted to do. Do you think he can't take Zelensky out on any given Tuesday?

• 1:50:55Adam Sosnick?

  For sure.

• 1:50:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:50:56Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, let's go to the next story.

• 1:50:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Just real quick.

• 1:50:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:59Tom Ellsworth?

  You wanna see liberals lose their mind? Have Trump work out a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine and win a Nobel Peace Prize? They will lose their mind! Because most of the liberals out there, and especially the establishment, is obviously pro-Ukraine, pro- rooting for Zelensky. Imagine if Trump brokers this deal. He's already been nominated for a peace, uh, Nobel Peace Prize by Netanyahu. By the way, Cambodia and Thailand, they were just about to go to war, he ended that real quick. We almost forgot there was a nuclear war between India and Pakistan. Trump ended that real quick. No, no Nobel Peace Prize. Obama got one.

• 1:51:36Adam Sosnick?

  within his first year for being what a cool black guy.

• 1:51:39Tom Ellsworth?

  For making a speech in Berlin for half a million people.

• 1:51:42Adam Sosnick?

  So if he can pull this off and get a Nobel Prize and say you think he is.

• 1:51:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, he's gonna get it. Let me tell you, man.

• 1:51:49Adam Sosnick?

  You're acting like it's a guarantee.

• 1:51:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, I'm saying that because if you don't, it is such a humiliating look on them to not wreck it. You don't, they don't have a choice but to have to give it to him to gain some credibility.

• 1:52:07Adam Sosnick?

  We'll see.

• 1:52:08Patrick Bet-David?

  If you don't, it is absolutely embarrassing if they don't do that.

• 1:52:11Adam Sosnick?

  Well, what did we learn from Stephen Colbert CBS sometimes? They'll just double down on what their side wants.

• 1:52:18Patrick Bet-David?

  The market speaks and the market's at a point right now where dumb ideas and terrible approach to business is getting exposed. You better get your act together. I want to get to the next story here. All right. So next story we got is President Trump is asking about a third term. I want this thing to be a two in the story, guys. I don't want everyone's reaction. We just want a couple of people. I just want to show this. He's being asked about a second term, third term. And well, you know, Trump 2028, here's his response, but he gives credit to two names. And one of them he's never said before. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:52:46Adam Sosnick?

  Unless I run again. Are you going to run again? No, probably not. Probably not. And you're not gonna fire Jay Powell. We'll go, we'll go all, talk about all the stuff that. Hey, Becky, I'd like to run. I have the best poll numbers I've ever had. You know why? Because people love the tariffs and they love the trade deal. And they love that countries and they love that foreign countries aren't ripping us off anymore. For years, they ripped us off, friend and foe.

• 1:53:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What's the one that he says the two names, Rob?

• 1:53:17Adam Sosnick?

  Right here. Yep.

• 1:53:19Patrick Bet-David?

  So there's one where he gives two names.

• 1:53:21Adam Sosnick?

  Right here. Different speech, but yes.

• 1:53:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead.

• 1:53:24Adam Sosnick?

  He got off the roof all right? Yeah, yeah. You said this morning that you probably won't be running for a third. This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought J.D. Vance would be a great nominee. You could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you agree?

• 1:53:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Great question.

• 1:53:43Adam Sosnick?

  To MAGA is J.D. Vance.

• 1:53:46Speaker 05

  Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the Vice President. I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get together with J.D. in some form. I also think we have incredible people, some of the people on the stage right here. So it's too early, obviously, to talk about it, but certainly he's doing a great job and he would be probably favorite at this point.

• 1:54:06Patrick Bet-David?

  J.D. Gives a shout out to J.D.

• 1:54:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Finally.

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Says Rubio can get in there somehow. So he's saying a J.D. Rubio.

• 1:54:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Like a one-two combo right there.

• 1:54:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Vance Rubio ticket 2020.

• 1:54:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Pretty powerful.

• 1:54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  It's pretty powerful. Now.

• 1:54:19Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, not as powerful as a Newsom, J.B. Pritzker, whatever his name is, but we'll see.

• 1:54:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So anyways, who knows what's gonna happen.

• 1:54:27Tom Ellsworth?

  But that's the first time I think he's acknowledged.

• 1:54:28Patrick Bet-David?

  J.D.

• 1:54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  J.D.'s Vance being the guy.

• 1:54:31Patrick Bet-David?

  It's the first time.

• 1:54:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Because he was asked about it before. It was an endorsement. It was an observation.

• 1:54:34Adam Sosnick?

  The first time he goes, "It's too early," but he said, "No." He said, "No," and he goes, "It's too early."

• 1:54:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:38Tom Ellsworth?

  It is too early.

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Listen, just the fact that he's talking about it, it's something to be thinking about. Let's go to a couple things. So Jaguar and Porsche. Business stories, guys. This is business case studies of what to do and what not to do. So Jaguar CEO steps down after woke rebrand sparked massive social media firestorm, forcing them to move on. This legendary ad here that they put up, and everybody's like, "Ah, not interested, man. This is not the Jaguar I think about." So the guy had to step down. Now, on the flip side, Porsche CEO seeks fresh cost cuts. Warning business model no longer works in the post-Trump, new China world. So the CEO, Oliver Blarn.

• 1:55:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Bloom warned the 36,700-strong German workforce about further cost cuts, planning to negotiate with the IG Metal Trade Union for a second package to protect profit margins. The company aims to eliminate more than a tenth of its staff, 3,600 jobs, by 2029, reducing its cost base to reflect a world where it sells only 250,000 cars annually, down from 317,000 cars, that's 60,000 fewer cars. He stated, "Our business model that sustained us over many decades no longer functioning today in its current form. Business conditions have deteriorated massively within a short period of time."

• 1:56:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He highlighted a 28% plunge in China's first-half-vehicle sales to the lowest in 11 years impacting Porsche's EVs. As the expected 80% EV sales shares by 2030 is no longer realistic. He noted, "On the one hand, we need EVs to fulfill regional CO2 regulations, but on the other hand, the profit margins are far below those of our combustion-engine cars. The decline coupled with investments in EVs like the EV McCann, Strains, Porsche and its suppliers." Tom, what's going on with these automakers, specifically Porsche?

• 1:56:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, Porsche and Jaguar. We'll start with Porsche. Europe threw a bunch of environmental laws in there, and the automakers were expecting 80% EV sales by 2030. The people that make the laws don't know about lithium, they don't know about rare earth minerals. I shouldn't say they don't know. They are uninformed of the big turn, big left turn, that you're forcing everybody to make. So they throw these CO2 regulations, environmental laws, that's green Europe. That is what happens. And so Porsche says, "Okay, we're with you, 80% EV sales by 2030." But the profit margin on an EV car without a subsidy because of the expensive rare earth metals

• 1:57:19Tom Ellsworth?

  is less than it is the classic Porsches that run on the blood of dead dinosaurs, oil. So you go back and look at this, what happened was socialist- Laws impacted capitalist companies capitalist companies are now sitting back and saying oh my gosh we're screwed we're not gonna be 80% EVs they're more expensive so guess what we have to do we have to cut now you know why you know why they have to cut you know why I have to do it because they don't have a president Trump that rolled back some of this green BS here in the United States Trump rolled back green things United States and so now the Porsche guy is still stuck he doesn't have a president Trump Germany if

• 1:58:01Tom Ellsworth?

  it had a president Trump like a Helmut Kohl or a Merkel 1.0 wouldn't be kowtowing to all these EV targets and CO2 regulations of the green lobby and they'd be able to operate now Porsche is saying I can't sell that many electric cars and I don't make as much profit on them as I do on the regular cars it's a Porsche it's meant to be a sports car it's meant to be what it is now Jaguar did the same thing the Jaguar CEO was a 30 year CEO 30 years in the chair he got bit too because he had to make a bet on the same European environmental laws meaning well the laws are this so I guess I gotta go make

• 1:58:42Tom Ellsworth?

  the bet on the EVs like this he got screwed and then something else did Jaguar got deeply in bed with the green lobby which lives right next door in the same apartment to the DEI lobby and he bowed down to both the green and the DEI and he allowed his marketing to go nuts with the rebranding on DEI and so Jaguar's CEO after 30 years at the helm 30 years he has the worst year on record he crushes his sales by 97% and he's out but the core of it

• 1:59:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Not crushes crushes means good his sales dropped 97%

• 1:59:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah Not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good But to the core of it Pat the government regulations hit both companies and they don't have a president Trump that came in and said not only we're gonna make cars in America but all these green regulations that are straining people goodbye

• 1:59:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah yeah Adam I have a question for Mr. Bet David I've seen you in many cars sir Many different cars, but the car of choice these days is your Porsche. Yeah. Why did you select that car? Uh, I've had many different Ferraris. I've had Lambos. I've had Bentley. I've had not Bentley. I've had Rolls Royce. The Porsche 911 Turbo S is the most, the perfect car I've ever owned in my life. Really?

• 2:00:06Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 2:00:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm 6'4", 245. I fit in it comfortably. The kids can sit there with me while we're going places. Rob, can you pull up the Porsche one? Will you watch a show? And it's, it's a phenomenal car. Uh, it's a 2.1 second 0 to 60. Yeah, I felt it's, it's just, it's just the back of my head was. It's a beautiful, it's literally a beautiful car. I hope Porsche gets it together. But I also understand sometimes when regulators or regulators get involved and they're forcing a company to run it based on certain regulations that they want to create and they don't understand how capitalism works, they get in the way. Get the hell out of my way. Let me produce a great product.

• 2:00:44Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing to me? Why are you trying to make this thing tougher? You know, I mean, even some of the Californian were like by 2035, you know, when Biden got up and said, but Newsom said by 2035, 50% of all cars in the state of California, I don't know what the number was. You must. Yeah, you must. Or else. And it's like, oh, now we're gonna change it. Now we're gonna change it. Now we're gonna change it. No. So is this one? So? Yes, sir. Yeah, Rob, if you can make this, and by the way, this is a friend of ours, Brandon, and she had something to say here, Rob. I don't know if I want to show this one or the other one, but she likes a Porsche as well. She was driving my Porsche a couple of days ago. I don't like the way she drove it. Rob, play this clip. Go ahead.

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• 2:02:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Who gave permission for her to take my Porsche?

• 2:02:25Adam Sosnick?

  She can take my house.

• 2:02:32Adam Sosnick?

  Jen's gonna be pissed.

• 2:02:33Patrick Bet-David?

  She is.

• 2:02:36Patrick Bet-David?

  What is it?

• 2:02:36Adam Sosnick?

  What the hell?

• 2:02:37Tom Ellsworth?

  What are you doing, lady?

• 2:02:38Adam Sosnick?

  Move up.

• 2:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Jake, what are you doing, Jake?

• 2:02:44Adam Sosnick?

  Joe, did they really burn out your car like that?

• 2:02:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:02:47Adam Sosnick?

  Holy moly.

• 2:02:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, do you have the other one? Play the other one.

• 2:02:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, there is another Hank.

• 2:02:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, do me a favor. Play the one, and by the way, that's the Porsche. They showed me that clip. I'm like, hey, she's kind of, not that one, Rob. Go to that one right there. To quote an Arnold movie. The other one, the other one. Be careful, you're going to avoid the warranty. Watch this one. Watch this one. Watch this one. Watch this one. And her manager, Brandon, was, uh...

• 2:03:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Everyone wants to win.

• 2:03:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this.

• 2:03:09Tom Ellsworth?

  But most doubt. In sports, it's called the clutch gene.

• 2:03:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's your car.

• 2:03:14Tom Ellsworth?

  In life, the winning gene. Losers crave comfort, make excuses, talk big, but freeze when it counts. Winners, uncertainty excites them. That's what gets me excited. The winner gene. That's why I'm going to the Vault Conference. Oh, wow.

• 2:03:32Patrick Bet-David?

  She's smart.

• 2:03:33Tom Ellsworth?

  By the way, she's got a great personality, for sure. Rob, are you...

• 2:03:39Adam Sosnick?

  Are those real or are they fake?

• 2:03:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that the same shirt she was wearing? Can we get to Rob for a second?

• 2:03:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, go to thevaultconference.com, get your tickets. Literally while I'm sitting here, a ton of CO tickets were just sold, one by one by one.

• 2:03:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I wonder why.

• 2:03:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No, I'm not, not pre, previous to this. Let me take a guess. Let me take one guess, PBD. But yes, but the but the point going back to it, folks, if if if you if you are somebody that's running a business, I'm telling you, or you want to be in a room with people that are getting on a right bus, with people that are on your ear, they want to do bigger things for themselves, get to the Vault Conference. Bring yourself and your spouse, come there to the Vault Conference, go to the VaultConference.com, buy your ticket. If you can afford to get the CEO, that's the right ticket to get. But if you can't, even if it's general, get in the room.

• 2:04:25Adam Sosnick?

  September 8th through 11th

• 2:04:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Gaylord Orlando.

• 2:04:28Adam Sosnick?

  In Orlando, Florida.

• 2:04:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:04:30Adam Sosnick?

  Be there or be left in the dust.

• 2:04:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Cannot wait for it. So that's the Porsche story for us. But let's get to the next story. Let's get to the next story. Let's get to the next story. All right. So, um, I'm gonna go with this one here. The 996 work schedule could be coming to your workplace soon. What is 996? Let me tell you what 996 means. The 996 isn't the old Porsche, where we just talked about Porsche. We're not talking about that Porsche. The 996 is working 9 to 9, 6 days a week.

• 2:04:59Adam Sosnick?

  Damn.

• 2:05:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Some people are worried that's coming to a city near you. Okay? So, let's read this great story here. AI startups are adopting the 996 work schedule where employees work 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. 6 days a week, Monday through Saturday, to outpace Chinese rivals in the AI race. But Tekindra Parmar, writing in the Inc., warns that this grueling schedule could hurt instead of help productivity. Rob, please find out who this person is. Tekindra Parmar, another journalist that wants to tell us how to build businesses while he uses Apple iPhone, ran by two founders, that seven is how they work. Experts called this

• 2:05:40Patrick Bet-David?

  culture corporate abuse with Caitlin Collins, organizational psychologist and program strategy director at Betterworks, stating the notion that working 9 to 9, 6 days a week drives innovation is deeply misleading. As research shows, sustained overwork leads to burnout, cognitive fatigue, and disengagement. A British study indicates employees working over 11-hour days Are 67% more likely to have a heart attack in over 54 hours a week increases the risk of karoshi, the Japanese term for death from overwork. Oh my God, all these things they're adding. Tom, what are your thoughts on the story here?

• 2:06:16Tom Ellsworth?

  First of all, they're conflating two things that they don't understand. And I will say that by the right, I don't know that-

• 2:06:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, this is the person? We're supposed to take it. So what has this guy done?

• 2:06:25Adam Sosnick?

  That's what my hair looks like in the morning.

• 2:06:27Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no.

• 2:06:27Adam Sosnick?

  That's me in the morning.

• 2:06:28Patrick Bet-David?

  What, what, what has this person done? What have they built? I want to know what this guy's built. If he's built companies and sold them, I'm going to give him so much respect.

• 2:06:37Tom Ellsworth?

  He, no, no, he says he's worked at seven magazines.

• 2:06:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm an editor who's worked at these places. I'm a, was Business Insider, Tech to Jeter, where I commissioned deeply. I'm currently an editorial consultant available to, I'm also available for select writing projects for Nation, Fortune Businesses. A writer, a journalist, talking to doers of what to do. Makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, Tom, tell us.

• 2:07:02Tom Ellsworth?

  So I, I, I don't know this, this gentleman, um, at all. And so I'm not judging him personally.

• 2:07:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna judge him. You, you don't need to-

• 2:07:08Tom Ellsworth?

  But no, no, but I can judge his written word. And his-

• 2:07:11Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna keep judging him, though. I'm just telling you.

• 2:07:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, his written word is actually, although I'm a, I'm a fan of his haircut and I once fell in love with someone that had a haircut like that.

• 2:07:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Matter of fact, guys, he's here.

• 2:07:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my God.

• 2:07:23Patrick Bet-David?

  He is here, sitting right next to me.

• 2:07:24Tom Ellsworth?

  My gosh, he's back.

• 2:07:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He is officially here.

• 2:07:26Adam Sosnick?

  I love it.

• 2:07:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my God, he's in the house. Hang on a second.

• 2:07:31Tom Ellsworth?

  He's this guy.

• 2:07:32Patrick Bet-David?

  This is called incredible technology.

• 2:07:35Adam Sosnick?

  Whatever the hell it is.

• 2:07:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh my goodness.

• 2:07:37Adam Sosnick?

  Don't work nine. What the hell are you guys talking about? I'm a writer.

• 2:07:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You look amazing.

• 2:07:42Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you. I'm a podcaster. What are you guys talking about?

• 2:07:45Tom Ellsworth?

  So now I'm going to narrow-

• 2:07:47Patrick Bet-David?

  They're cousins.

• 2:07:47Tom Ellsworth?

  After that levity, let me narrow up the answer after this point of levity, which I enjoyed. You're about to talk about-

• 2:07:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Get to the point, Tom.

• 2:07:56Tom Ellsworth?

  This writer, yeah. What is- Tom, get to the point. So, there are part timers, there are full timers, there are all the timers. And all the timers are usually entrepreneurs that are operating with passion. People that have a J O B often don't understand the all the timers. And the all the timers, what we're talking about here is 996. It's not 996, it's 24/7 because you're living, you're breathing it. And that's what it's all about. And there are people that want to win, that want to conquer. They want to be the black swan. That's the 996 work culture. It's not an enforced culture, it's not a labor camp. If you don't want that, you have the freedom to go work somewhere else. Now, when they're talking about the Japanese karoshi,

• 2:08:38Tom Ellsworth?

  they're mostly talking about, you can go look at it from the 80s and 90s, where there was overwork and there was a Japanese culture that was enforced of overwork and guys were having heart attacks at their desk. Yes, that happened. But this over here, what we're talking about, 996? No, these are people with passion, building new companies that say, "I want to be the black swan and I'm willing to pay the price to be the black swan because I need to be sharper, better, more informed, more ahead, and more paranoid in the name, in the words of Andy Grove, to get there."

• 2:09:12Adam Sosnick?

  I stand corrected then, I'm for him then.

• 2:09:14Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't understand-

• 2:09:14Adam Sosnick?

  You changed my mind.

• 2:09:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom, how could you stand there and deliver a passion business speech when this guy's looking at your face right next to you?

• 2:09:21Adam Sosnick?

  Well, listen, I'm telling you right now, he changed my mind. Now I'm pro, you know what? Get your butts to work.

• 2:09:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Because this is commentary, and this is Vinny giving what I call intelligent commentary. Really? Even though he looks like Cousin It from The Addams Family. Okay. For anybody that remembers that.

• 2:09:38Adam Sosnick?

  Listen, because I'm, listen, because I'm, listen, I know we're on a pod, this is a serious thing. Never take advice from anybody that looks like this. Okay, I'm just telling you guys right now, this doesn't know what the hell they're talking. If you're just a writer-

• 2:09:50Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm waiting for, I'm waiting for Pat to weigh in. All the timers, entrepreneurs of passion-

• 2:09:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me give you an answer here, let me give you an answer here. There is a lady once that said to Arnold, I don't know if you've heard the story or not. She says to Arnold, she says, "I would never marry a man like you." She says, "Don't worry, you never will, okay?" You know, if a man ever looked like you, I would never be with him. He says, "Don't worry, you never will," because they're not gonna look like me. If a person wants to build a startup, they don't understand what 996 is. The startup guys are not even like, "I'm gonna work from 9 to 9, 6 days a week." When you go from an element of flirting with something, then being interested in something, then being committed to something,

• 2:10:39Patrick Bet-David?

  then being obsessed, you can't get somebody that's obsessed to get something out of their mind.

• 2:10:44Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 2:10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  My oldest son. Vinny, if you're around him, what is he gonna talk about?

• 2:10:50Adam Sosnick?

  Tico?

• 2:10:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:10:51Adam Sosnick?

  Tico, we're talking about...

• 2:10:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this, watch this.

• 2:10:55Adam Sosnick?

  We're talking politics?

• 2:10:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 2:10:57Adam Sosnick?

  We're talking, like, literally, policies, world stuff, we're talking about...

• 2:11:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Movie characters.

• 2:11:01Adam Sosnick?

  Movie characters. He's going to places that are just like, if this character did this, and he's... By the way, his brain is going, movies, politics, stuff that's happening in the world, it's everywhere, in a positive way.

• 2:11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, don't worry. No one's gonna force you to work 9 to 9, 6 days a week. These guys are not going and telling people, "You better work 9 to 9, 6 days a week." These people are saying, "If you're gonna be here, we're all the timers, but you're gonna get equity, so you're gonna own a piece of the company, and if we build this into a multi-billion dollar company, you're gonna get a few million dollars of exit, and that's gonna be life-changing money for you. But if you wanna go, it's 9 to 9, 6 days a week." No, I don't think that's healthy for you. Don't worry, you're not making that decision. What do you think it's like when you're at war? What do you think happens to the people that are deployed there in Afghanistan? What do you think life looks like in the military when you're going there? What do you think happens there? What do you think happens to people that are, you know, playing sports at the highest level of competitiveness, training, doing all... What do you think coaches do?

• 2:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Football coaches getting up 3 o'clock in the morning to come to the office to look at the plays, to prepare for the training? Maybe players get rest, you think coaches get rest? You think football coaches get rest? I'm with Coach K yesterday, and he's talking about the fact that he got 3 stents in his heart, 2 surgeries on his knees, all this other stuff, won all these championships, won 3 gold medals, won the greatest college basketball coaches of all time. This guy's an all-the-timers, 70-some years old, up on stage... On fire says, I haven't been in an arena with this many people in front of me for three years. He wasn't being, he wasn't speaking till 11 o'clock. He was at 8:45 talking to everybody, watching all these videos. He didn't have to do that. That's not part of the contract. We didn't pay him for him to be prepared. That's him. That's who he is. If somebody is an all the timer, you're not going to change them.

• 2:12:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And if somebody is lazy, maybe you can get him from a little bit to a five or a six.

• 2:12:49Patrick Bet-David?

  One of my favorite quotes on my affirmation list that I had is, "Sometimes on a way to a dream, you get lost and find a bigger one. Sometimes on a way to a dream, you get lost and find a bigger one. When something catches your heart, you will never, for the rest of your life, meet a person like that ever again. Never. And with heart, we're talking about a quote from many years ago that we would constantly talk about. It was, "I'm confident in my preparation, humble in victory and loss, cocky in my predictions." Let me say that one more time. Confident in my preparation, humble in victory or loss, and cocky with my predictions. You know whose quote that is? Conor McGregor. Back in the days.

• 2:13:32Patrick Bet-David?

  When he was confident in preparation, humble in victory and loss, and a cocky in prediction. That was him. When nobody wanted to face him. Back in the days. When he was training and taking it seriously. I'd love for him to do that again, because I'd love to see him fight at the White House next year against Chandler. That'd be a great fight to watch. But nobody goes and builds an Apple company because somebody told them, "To build a three, four trillion dollar company, Steve and Steve, you guys gotta work nine to nine, six days a week." They're like, "What? We're not working nine to nine. We're working all day, seven days a week for five, 10 years, because we want to kill everybody. We want to compete." They don't read an article like this from some guy like this with a beautiful hairdo and say, "I'm gonna go out there and do that." Go ahead, Adam.

• 2:14:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, so, well, some people are just allergic to hard works. Some people in America are just allergic to work. You know, we had a conversation at breakfast yesterday. And I said, "Pat, you talked about responsibilities and whatever it takes to be a man." I said, "Pat, I don't know anybody that's works as hard as you. I just don't." And then I asked you, "How many people do you know, like, actual names that work as hard as you?"

• 2:14:38Tom Ellsworth?

  There weren't many names that came to mind. Obviously, there's billionaires that have built ridiculous companies that you're not necessarily friends with or in touch with. But Tom said, so there's part timers, there's full timers, there's all the timers. And then there's just what I would classify as obsessed. I'd put you in that obsessed category. How do you get to that category? You weren't always obsessed, were you? Hey, how you doing?

• 2:15:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I got Tom sitting.

• 2:15:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay.

• 2:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Was I always?

• 2:15:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Were you always obsessed?

• 2:15:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No. I was not always obsessed with something like this. You know, so you, you, you, you, you're never gonna meet that next version of you until something catches your heart and it's like a flame. Boom.

• 2:15:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:15:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Oof, I can't get it out of me. I, I, I, I was, I got obsessed with politics very early on in 08, 09, when I went to a speech with George Will, but I held it back on creating content and talking about it. I just wanted to talk business. And then COVID happened and I saw what was going on with some of the stuff they were pushing. I'm like, I can't stop. I'm gonna start talking about it. And everybody told me you're making a mistake because you haven't sold your insurance company yet. And half your company people are not Republicans. They're not conservatives. They're not capitalists. Be very careful. I'm like, I'm a, you know, at the time libertarian, capitalist, pro-family. These were my values, but I don't, you know, our company was 24% African-American, 54% Hispanic. You can't talk about this. So I said, I'm gonna talk about that stuff. Why? It was obsessed.

• 2:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  I was not gonna let kids, you know, convincing parents that puberty blockers for 90-year-olds are a good thing. That all these things that, that this, hey, take the vaccine, whatever. Why can't I do investigation and take my time? You better take it. Why? Why are you in such a hurry? Let me take my time. Let me do some, no, no, no, you gotta, no, I don't gotta. I wanna do a little research. No, you can't. Strike, strike, strike, strike, strike. Strike this, strike that. Everything was. So until you get to that point where somebody pisses you off, where you finally are like, I'm not gonna live this life. It's not gonna change. Or a dream, something inspires you. We're kinda like, I think I can do XYZ. I feel like we're on our way to do something big with a group that I'm a part of. It's a very magical feeling.

• 2:16:47Patrick Bet-David?

  When you have it, you know it. You can only explain it to other people who have had it before. Let's hit the last story and wrap up. Let's hit the last story and wrap up. And I'm trying to see what's, let's hit the Netanyahu story. Netanyahu believes occupying Gaza is the only way to save the hostages, but it will also start bloodiest phase of the war, yet experts warn. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one.

• 2:17:13Tom Ellsworth?

  I have two. I have ABC News report and then I have President Trump being asked about it.

• 2:17:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 2:17:18Adam Sosnick?

  Sources telling ABC News, Prime Minister Netanyahu wants to expand the war and occupy all of Gaza and get the hostages home. At least that is what's been leaked to the press. If it happens, it would be a really radical departure from the negotiations that have been brokered by the US and Arab countries, who have effectively been trying unsuccessfully to agree another ceasefire and the release of those still being held. Videos showing two hostages looking emaciated have shocked this country and put more pressure on Netanyahu. We had Steve Witkoff, President Trump's special envoy, telling hostage families just a couple of days ago, "We are very, very close to a solution to end this war and that all hostages will be released at once, rather than in stages."

• 2:18:02Adam Sosnick?

  But honestly Diane, there's no sense of how this will happen. Intense bombing and mass starvation have failed to force Hamas to relent. The militants calling Israel's latest threats repetitive, worthless, and without influence. Families fear a military operation in the areas, these are families of those still being held, fear that any expanded military operation, especially into the areas where they think their loved ones are being held, will risk their lives. The brother of one of the hostages looking painfully thin in that video, telling me that Hamas is using his brother, the other hostages, and the people of Gaza as bargaining.

• 2:18:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what Trump says here. Let's see what Trump says here about the same exact thing. Go for it.

• 2:18:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Would you support Israel reoccupying Gaza?

• 2:18:53Speaker 05

  All of Gaza has been suggested by some Israeli officials? Well, I don't know what the suggestion is. I know that we are there now trying to get people fed. As you know, $60 million was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of food frankly for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food. And I know Israel is going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money. We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution. So that's what I'm focused on. As far as the rest of it, I really can't say. That's going to be pretty much up to Israel, yep.

• 2:19:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom?

• 2:19:37Tom Ellsworth?

  So, you know, when you look at this and what's going on, first of all, there's a humanitarian crisis that is going on with citizens in Gaza, the people of Gaza. They're there and they're caught in the middle. Hamas hides behind them. And you feel for them. There's also people there that voted for this and ended up with it. And so, which sucks. And so I think that what's going on right now is we're trying to get aid in, as the president said, to help the people that are there who are basically refugees. And on the other hand, Netanyahu is basically saying, and let me see if I can translate for Bibi.

• 2:20:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And I'm not speaking for him, but he's saying occupation is how we're going to get it. Or, man, the deep, hidden tunnels and terrorists still exist. And it may be messy, but we may have to go in there with an even deeper occupying presence to solve this and to solve it for good. And people are going to say, oh, well, Bibi's, you know, he's committing genocide with those. No, that's not what he's saying. So I think he's saying is it might be really messy to get in and to do what we have to do to take this to its final phase.

• 2:20:58Tom Ellsworth?

  And Trump is saying along the way, we're trying to get, you know, refugee support to the people of Gaza, to the citizens.

• 2:21:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny?

• 2:21:09Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, deadlier and crazier than than what is I if it's gonna get deadlier and bloodier than what has already happened, then dude, my I have I'm just gonna pray for those people cuz it's how much worse can it get couple last week, it was the deadliest yet for aid seekers 21 months of war 85 Palestinians were killed trying to get food not Hamas, holding them or any of that type of stuff Tommy, it was just saying this is the UN saying more than 400 Palestinians were killed, there's IDF soldiers uh uh that told Haaretz H A A R E T Z which is Israeli newspaper that they're ordered to fire at unarmed crowds near food distribution sites, even when no threats are present, okay, then you have uh Israelis

• 2:21:51Adam Sosnick?

  Minister Ben Gavir calling Netanyahu morally bankrupt for even allowing aid into Gaza, he said the starvation of Palestinians should continue, his words were the only thing to send into Gaza is shells, okay, and then Republican Congressman Randy Fine recently said, uh it could have been in May Rob, I don't know the exact date, he says, and Rob, do you have that clip, I'll have him say Pat, he says, we nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender, that this is it right here, listen to what he says. We nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender, that needs to be the same here, there's something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture and it needs to be defeated. We heard in Brooks.

• 2:22:33Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so I mean, nuking the entire place and I get it, and a lot of people are saying, and I think Pat, who did we see yesterday, Megyn Kelly and even um Charlie Kirk were mentioning, it's like guys, you can be critical about cuz that people are going after them cuz they're not going all in on everything that the government of Israel is doing, but they're I think these type of things have to be addressed, how's it gonna get bloodier when the death toll is already 60,000 people have already died in the conflict, uh a thousand have died at this distribution sites, journalists, and here's the thing that bothers me Pat, journalists aren't allowed, they're banned from entering Gaza to report what is happening, you can't, when's the last time you saw, like, we just saw a couple of soldiers shooting, I don't know what year that's from, you can't see what's happening, and I get the fact

• 2:23:19Adam Sosnick?

  There's hostages. I understand that, but what we know as American government, as the American stance on terrorism is what? We do not negotiate with terrorists, okay? Whatever you're gonna do, you should have been doing it already. If they're so tactically... Israel, we saw in this last operation, what were they doing in Iran? They had, they blew up a part of a building where just the apartment of where the guy was blown up happened. And we got to this point because of what? Adam, me and Adam were talking about this in the hotel room yesterday, October 7th. And now we're hearing from Israeli soldiers, IDF soldiers, in their congress, and I sent Rob the video, they're saying that they got on October 7th, stand down orders in the hours of when this attack happened.

• 2:24:04Adam Sosnick?

  And then Michael Flynn was on a podcast yesterday saying that he was talking to people as well. Is this it, Rob? Yes. It's really long, Rob. Long, Rob. Yeah, it's long. I'll just tell you guys what he said. He was saying from people that they were getting stand down orders, and these are IDF soldiers, and I won't even play that clip too, which always got back to, who was the guy? Pat, that we talked about, that said now's not the time. It was two weeks after October 7th.

• 2:24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  John Kirby?

• 2:24:28Adam Sosnick?

  John Kirby said now's not the time. It's been this far along, where we are right now. They had warnings, Egypt even warned Benjamin Netanyahu about this day. It happened. Now you're hearing all this stuff, and I'm like, you wanna get bloodier? Can we fix the problem that's happening right now? And it's the starving people and the people trying to get food that are getting shot at.

• 2:24:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Isn't Trump trying to get the money in there? Number one.

• 2:24:50Adam Sosnick?

  Trump's trying to get the money in there.

• 2:24:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Number two, isn't there two issues? Is where we are right now, and then did FDR know that the Japanese are gonna attack Pearl Harbor?

• 2:24:58Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:59Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that why he took the aircraft carriers out?

• 2:25:00Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:25:01Tom Ellsworth?

  We have these conspiracies that have gone back and forth about countries getting into war. Okay, that's October 7th. We could debate that another time. What do you think, right now, Trump trying to get aid in, and what Netanyahu's saying now?

• 2:25:13Adam Sosnick?

  I think...

• 2:25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Separating it from October 7th, and who did or didn't.

• 2:25:16Adam Sosnick?

  I think getting to the point where Trump, listen, Trump has a heart. They asked him on Air Force One a couple of weeks ago, I wanna say one and a half weeks ago, so the reporter's like, hey, Melania, he's even said Melania is worried about this. He goes, they're starving. So something has to change because us caring about those people, those innocent people, it's not anti-Semitic, I'm not pro Hamas, I'm just tactically, you could be doing a better job because that anti-Semitic thing like then people around the world are judging and I don't agree with it, they're hating all, they're labeling all Jewish people. No, no, if you're gonna go after the problem, say it exactly, you know, or it's the Jews. No, no, it's Bibi Netanyahu's government that's not going about this in the right way because when I see starving children.

• 2:26:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Right way according to who?

• 2:26:03Adam Sosnick?

  Meaning, uh, like what do you mean?

• 2:26:04Patrick Bet-David?

  What is right way according to? So for example, they say Trump is not going the right way about all the illegal immigrants we have. According to who? Trump's not going the right way about renegotiating tariffs with companies. According to who? So according to who is Bibi not going the right way?

• 2:26:21Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, I'll give my opinion, I can't speak for everybody. I think if, if the problem is what's happening with Gaza and there's people trying to get food to eat and they're stopping, not only stopping the food, they're giving orders to shoot at unarmed crowds, Pat, I have a huge problem with that. Being a veteran, uh, as well, that type of stuff, getting orders, you know what orders means? It's coming from the top. Somebody's telling you, listen, if they're getting wild, shoot them. That right there, that tactical move, Pat, and again, hostages and all that, that's a whole different.

• 2:26:52Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's, Vinnie, when you're saying that, like, we did that. America.

• 2:26:57Adam Sosnick?

  Of course we did. It doesn't make it right.

• 2:26:58Patrick Bet-David?

  No, but it's not about it makes it right or it doesn't make it right. Iran did that. Middle East, war is nasty. Very, very nasty. Do I support that behavior? No. I was a kid in Iran when Saddam and Iraq was attacking us and it's scary as hell and we were frightened moving from Tehran to Karaj to Bandar Palavi to Rasht. We'll just keep moving until finally we're like, let's get the hell out of here. It was so bad that we went to Germany to be at a refugee camp. I'm not supportive of it. But according to who? So when, when I hear stories like this with specifically Israel Netanyahu, he's doing what he's doing. All right. So in America, we'll, we'll sit there and you know, there'll be the guys on the side that are, you know, Judaism, Israel, this, all this, others. I can't believe what

• 2:27:43Patrick Bet-David?

  they're doing. I can't believe what they're doing with this. All right, cool. There's the faction that Israel can't do nothing right whatsoever. Then, there's a faction that says Israel can't do nothing wrong. Both of those people have zero credibility with me.

• 2:27:57Adam Sosnick?

  I agree.

• 2:27:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, zero credibility with me. When you're only looking at that everything Israel Jews, you, you lose, I'm not listening to you. Because you're being unreasonable, and when the people can't do anything wrong, you're also, I don't want to hear what you have to say, because you're also full of it, right? But for me, if he's choosing to do this, and he goes about and does it himself, you know, the history we have in America, every single state that we have, you're like, this is not a California, this is Mexico, this is not this, this is, there's a, what do you think we did? We, we, we, did you live in California? Did we live in a lot of these states? How did you think it happened? You think it was pretty, you think it was, what are we talking about? Like, we're talking about like as if, it's gonna happen, like these types of things are gonna happen all over the place. They have to handle it.

• 2:28:41Patrick Bet-David?

  My problem is, hey, you say you can do it, can you do with your money? What do you need? If you want to do by yourself, go do it. I don't support it, I'm not gonna get up and, great job, we endorse this behavior, and that's exactly what he's doing. He's saying, hey, my wife is even talking about what are you doing over there, are we feeding the guys or not? You don't think behind closed doors, he's talking to Bibi and saying something like this, hey Bibi, let me, let me explain something to you. I swear to God, if the next time I send you food, if it doesn't make it to the people that need to do something, you lose anything you want from me. You're not gonna get it. You don't think he says something like that?

• 2:29:13Adam Sosnick?

  I think so.

• 2:29:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Does Trump give you the vibe that he's being pushed around by Bibi? Really?

• 2:29:16Adam Sosnick?

  Not at all.

• 2:29:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go talk about this. We talked about this, you and I had dinner the other night. Well, we were at this, uh, uh, sushi spot, I don't remember the name of it, but you know which one I'm talking about.

• 2:29:25Adam Sosnick?

  Amazing.

• 2:29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  We're sitting there, we're like, wow, Mossad has all these assets on Americans. Okay, hey, let's talk to you, the person that says Mossad has assets on Americans. Because I believe they do. I actually believe that Mossad did use people like Epstein, Robert Maxwell, and a lot of other people today in the system, like the Walz or some of these stores.

• 2:29:42Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:29:42Patrick Bet-David?

  I do believe they have assets in America. I believe that they have it on the internal side. But if you and I are presidents, bro, let's say you're a president.

• 2:29:50Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:29:51Patrick Bet-David?

  And Mossad shows, hey Vinny, you better fund this, this, this, and this, and you're the president, or else we're gonna do this.

• 2:29:59Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's say they show a picture from you from 28 years ago. Let's say they have something on what you did from 26 years ago.

• 2:30:06Adam Sosnick?

  Me with the underage girl.

• 2:30:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Whatever it is, I'm just saying, let's say they have that. Okay? Who becomes a president without having a big ego? Nobody.

• 2:30:14Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you gonna do if somebody threatens you like that to publicly humiliate you?

• 2:30:18Adam Sosnick?

  Have we talked about this?

• 2:30:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you gonna do?

• 2:30:19Adam Sosnick?

  The moment that meeting's over, I'm going to my intelligence.

• 2:30:23Patrick Bet-David?

  And what are you gonna do?

• 2:30:23Adam Sosnick?

  Get your asses in gear and go find everything on this guy. I want you to go buy... Money, just do it.

• 2:30:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think president has dirt on Bibi right now?

• 2:30:33Adam Sosnick?

  I think so, oh, for sure.

• 2:30:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think president has dirt on bunch of people in Israel right now?

• 2:30:37Adam Sosnick?

  Hundred percent.

• 2:30:38Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you think this works?

• 2:30:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:30:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You wanna play 3D chess?

• 2:30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you wanna do that? Let's freaking go. You think we're not gonna sit here and get assets on you?

• 2:30:45Adam Sosnick?

  Of course.

• 2:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  You think you walk on flipping water? You think Bibi's this perfect-looking guy that's getting everything done? No, there's dirt on him as well. So the only thing I got when I hear stories like this, he's gonna do this, president's gonna sit there and say, "I don't support this behavior." But if he does, what are you gonna do it? He has to protect this country. It's part of his job. If he doesn't do it right, they're gonna kill him. If they kill him, he won't be the first leader they do this to. They're gonna not support him. He's gonna get out. Stuff's gonna happen.

• 2:31:15Adam Sosnick?

  Hmm.

• 2:31:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, stuff's gonna happen. And by the way, they're not letting any media in. Go get media in Iran. Go ahead. Go, go get media in China. Go, go move Facebook over there.

• 2:31:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Thank you.

• 2:31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go move on. Where are, like, what places? This, the only, there's a reason why America's the greatest country in the world. Israel's not the greatest country in the world. What? Israelis live here and they just wanna go back to their homeland. They're living here. Why are you living here? Because this is the greatest country in the world. Not any other country. Not, not, not Israel. Not, not China. Not Brazil. Not India. America. Number one. Greatest country in the world. And for us to think that these guys are gonna come and push us around? Dude, come and put intel on me. Guy came up to me with a threat. "I'm gonna go public with this." I said, "I'm gonna say it publicly." "Don't worry about it." And then I did. Now what are you gonna do? "Hey, PHB, this is when I was running my insurance company, a couple of my guys..."

• 2:32:10Patrick Bet-David?

  "I'm gonna say it from stage." "Go ahead and threaten me." Then I get intel on you. You wanna play that game with me? You don't think I'm gonna do that to you? I don't, I think it's naive when people say Netanyahu, Trump is a, what do you call it?

• 2:32:23Adam Sosnick?

  Trump it?

• 2:32:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, it is such a massive insult to the country.

• 2:32:29Adam Sosnick?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:32:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a massive insult for you to go from zero to here. You were just supporting, now he's this bad guy? You don't know all the stories behind closed doors. You don't know what's happening. I'm not a pro Bibi guy. You've never heard me talk complimentary of Bibi. Have you ever heard me get up there and say, "He's the greatest thing"? No. I've talked, people can accuse me of talking complimentary of Putin. Yes, guess what? I have.

• 2:32:53Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, guilty.

• 2:32:54Patrick Bet-David?

  You've never heard me speak complimentary of Zelensky, and you've never heard me speak complimentary of Netanyahu. But at the same time, I understand why Zelensky is protecting Ukraine. I understand why they killed hundreds of thousands of people with Russia. I understand why, you know, Netanyahu is doing what he's doing. That's his agenda. And you and I don't have to agree with his agenda. But it's his agenda. Somebody else doesn't like it? Vote for someone else. Kick him out. You got elections in Israel, get the hell out of there. And bring somebody else in that's gonna do a better job. But till then, these kinds of things are not going away, Vinny. And, and, and again, I feel, behind closed doors, Trump is making that call and saying, "Hey, you crossed the line, you don't have my support." I don't think he's gonna, he's being bullied around the way people make it seem out to be. Trump specifically.

• 2:33:39Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, see, and, and I'm not, I'm not thinking about the bullying part of it. I'm thinking of the fact that, you know, but you mentioned Russia, China, and Iran with the media stuff. They're not our ally. That they're not our, we don't give them $4 billion a year. If, when that's the case, and I'm giving Adam a bunch of money, then Adam takes my money under my name, and is doing all this type of stuff. I'm gonna say, "Hey, Adam, wait, timeout, bro. I need to see how you're spending my, what are you doing with my money?"

• 2:34:03Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, let me ask you, so you give me $4 billion a year?

• 2:34:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 2:34:06Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm Israel.

• 2:34:07Adam Sosnick?

  If I give you $4 billion?

• 2:34:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's say you give me $4 billion a year. What do you think getting in return?

• 2:34:13Adam Sosnick?

  I don't even know. What, just?

• 2:34:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really?

• 2:34:15Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, meaning, meaning, meaning tactically in the Middle East?

• 2:34:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think getting a return if you give me $4 billion a year? Let's actually negotiate this.

• 2:34:21Adam Sosnick?

  Okay.

• 2:34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think getting a return if you give me $4 billion a year?

• 2:34:24Tom Ellsworth?

  Arms purchases, cooperation, it's a big list.

• 2:34:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Honestly.

• 2:34:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Intelligence, technology.

• 2:34:29Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think if you're giving me, what am I getting in return? You think, you think it's just a handout?

• 2:34:34Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, I'm saying, I'm saying if, if they're strategically set up in the Middle East where we have an ally in the Middle East and we're giving them, I mean.

• 2:34:41Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think you get in return?

• 2:34:42Adam Sosnick?

  I honestly don't even know.

• 2:34:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Really?

• 2:34:44Adam Sosnick?

  I swear.

• 2:34:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So where do you get intel from? Where do we get intel on all the Middle Eastern countries around? Where?

• 2:34:49Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, there. I'm, I'm saying four billion dollars is a lot of money.

• 2:34:52Patrick Bet-David?

  No, four billion dollars is actually not a lot of money when it comes onto governments. It's really not.

• 2:34:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Literally.

• 2:34:57Patrick Bet-David?

  A lot of money is, you, Apple is agreeing to invest 600 billion dollars. That's a lot of money. Four billion dollars, when you're talking at the government level, it's, it's, it's what 40,000 dollars is to civilians. That's not a lot of money. I'm being very serious with it. It's not a lot of money. But what they're getting in return is certain assets that they want. By the way, going back and looking at all the terms on how they negotiate stuff with Clinton and all the other guys. Historically, I've said this on the record, Israel's always negotiated favorably. Whose fault is that? Politician's fault. Israel's always over-negotiated America.

• 2:35:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And they've owned a bunch of people in America aggressively. Yes, on the record, they've done that. No question about it. So to me, my trust goes into a candidate like Trump who is in. If you voted him in, you expect perfection within six months, you should have never voted him. You're, you're in the wrong business. What he's done in six months, no president's done in two years. Let's see what he's gonna do in the next couple of years. But I'm not convinced he's gonna sit there being pushed around and I think he's renegotiating a lot of different things. And I actually think a part of it, he has Bibi needing him. Bibi's never faced an unpredictable candidate like, uh... Trump, ever. He's never faced on a predictable candidate like Trump.

• 2:36:25Adam Sosnick?

  So I should go with what Bibi wants, okay? Because this is going to the hostages, right? They want the hostages, I understand that 100%. What's the end, meaning, how do you think you're gonna get them back from terrorists? If you're gonna go attack, you know, it's the fate of the terrorists? It's not gonna be like a negotiation. If you're gonna go into war, he knows that they're going to die at that point. But I'm mad at like if you, if you're going and you're like, okay, enough is enough. We're going all in, those hostages are going to.

• 2:36:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What did Reagan do when he was negotiating with terrorists? The famous line you said earlier.

• 2:36:57Adam Sosnick?

  We don't negotiate with terrorists.

• 2:36:59Patrick Bet-David?

  So what do you do like so Reagan said Reagan's a great president. Bibi says that Bibi's a bad person. What's the difference here? I'm actually curious.

• 2:37:06Adam Sosnick?

  No, I'm just saying, I'm saying what is this?

• 2:37:08Patrick Bet-David?

  We say you don't negotiate with terrorists, but another guy says it, oh, no. Do we forget Reagan says we don't negotiate with terrorists? Do we forget some of the stuff that we said? Do we not celebrate when the stuff happened with Hassan Soleimani? I don't understand the over sensitivity topic with Israel. I have a very hard time understanding it. I get it, trust me. They over negotiate a lot of deals. But it's like overly, overly, overly sensitive topic when it comes there. As if they rule the world and they don't.

• 2:37:38Adam Sosnick?

  And Vinnie.

• 2:37:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's, and by the way.

• 2:37:42Adam Sosnick?

  But I'm not saying they rule the world. I'm just saying when it comes to America, again, I'm America first.

• 2:37:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:48Adam Sosnick?

  Period. I'm not America only. Okay, I'm just saying when I see bad stuff happening, I get it. But Pat was in during 9/11, which that's a whole nother conversation.

• 2:37:56Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're not America only. You're also America first. We're both America first.

• 2:38:00Adam Sosnick?

  100%.

• 2:38:01Patrick Bet-David?

  We're, you know, when we, when we talk about this stuff, to me, I, I watch the over sensationalism of what's going on with this, of turning it into something bigger than it really is. And then I also meet the guys that come that from Israel and they tell me how perfect everything. I'm like, dude, stop. Stop, stop, stop. Don't, don't do that with me like, "Oh my God, everything is perfect." No. I get it. I know what you're doing. I know what your motives are. I fully understand why you're supporting Israel, and I respect the fact that you support Israel. I get it. Totally understand. But I'm, I'm banking on the guy that I got on his boss, the example of Coach K, Trump, that he's gonna be able to negotiate favorably better than any other

• 2:38:45Patrick Bet-David?

  president we've ever had before. That doesn't mean on 100% of all issues, because that's called impossible. And every commentator on news media, podcaster that acts like this is what he should do, let's put you in there and see what you would do within a second. Go ahead, you go get the job. They make it seem like they would be incredible presidents negotiating everything perfectly. No, this game is hard, and he's the best one we've had so far in the ways negotiating. Doesn't mean you have to support everything he's doing. Doesn't mean you can't criticize him. Doesn't mean you can't sit there. I'm the guy that at this panel gave the lowest score after 100 days to Trump, and I get a message from a bunch of liberals telling me, "Hey, great job on your analysis." I give a C minus, and a bunch of Trump people are pissed off at me. And you give him an A minus on that. I give him an A minus.

• 2:39:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I give a C minus. You know what I got? Messages I got? What a freaking trade. I'm like, "No, this is my position. I'm not trying to win or make friends. I'm telling you where I'm at. You don't like it? Go watch somebody else that gave him an A plus." I'm not that guy. But when it flips, I'll also give that score. Tom?

• 2:39:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, in, in terms of strategy, Vinny, "I have killed all the hostages" is usually the last words of an enemy that's about to be overrun, because you're being very careful. Why? Because there's hostages. You're trying to be surgical. You're trying to get to the tunnels, because there's hostages. You're trying to go door to door and be very precise about who you take out, because there's hostages. The minute you take pictures and said, "We've killed all the hostages," so there, I unleash hell.

• 2:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a green light.

• 2:40:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 2:40:15Patrick Bet-David?

  For sure.

• 2:40:15Tom Ellsworth?

  So, that's not usually the way terrorists operate. At the core of terrorism is cowardice, and "I've killed all the hostages" is usually an incredibly weak negotiating position that results in, in horrors.

• 2:40:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And you know what? Honestly, on this topic, I want to hear nothing from Adam. That's true. That's true. You want, I fully understand why you wouldn't want to hear from me. Go ahead, Adam. Well, let me be, uh...

• 2:40:39Tom Ellsworth?

  When it comes to Israel and what's going on in Gaza, let me be completely logical.

• 2:40:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Here we go.

• 2:40:43Tom Ellsworth?

  And not emotional because we saw what happened last time when I got emotional and I freaked out. So let me just be completely logical. Number one, the Muslim world does not care about Palestinians. If they did, they would take them in, much like Israel took in people from literally countless countries, dozens of countries after the Holocaust. Not one Arab or Muslim country has stepped up to take in Palestinians. Egypt hasn't done it. Jordan hasn't done it. Saudi hasn't done it. Iran certainly hasn't done it. Lebanon, Syria, the list goes on. You know who has done it? France, UK, the woke world. If I was advising Bibi Netanyahu, here's what I would tell him.

• 2:41:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Keep doing what you're doing. Do not listen to one single iota of word from the woke mob. They have no clue what it's like to live literally next to terrorists. You know, usually when you lose a war, there's a clear winner and loser. Israel's not allowed to win a war. The best they can do is draw. Why is Israel, which they're doing, responsible for feeding the country they're at war with? Is Russia feeding Ukraine? Is Thailand feeding Cambodia? Is Pakistan feeding India? Zero. Did America feed Afghanistan or feed Iraq?

• 2:42:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Why is Israel expected to feed the country that is sworn to kill them? Now, you talk about negotiating with terrorists. They're literally negotiating with a terrorist group that is sworn to kill them. And now you want, okay, so let's go, let's go there. Palestine deserves their own state. Let's give them their own state. Who's running the state? Well, it's Hamas. So now you're going to have Hamas, the terrorist organization, run the country you want? To me, it's a complete nonstarter. Bibi and Trump, what you say goes. That's it.

• 2:42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  All right. And on that note, if you guys want to support. Adam's AIPAC campaign.

• 2:42:50Tom Ellsworth?

  That's true.

• 2:42:51Patrick Bet-David?

  We have a website for you guys to go to. But if you want to message Adam and tell him you agree with him or not. Here's his monet. Vinnie broke an all time record last month in a month.

• 2:43:02Tom Ellsworth?

  What is our dinner?

• 2:43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Contest is, we're, oh, we're, we're.

• 2:43:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Coming, coming.

• 2:43:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Coming up in a couple of weeks.

• 2:43:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Can't wait.

• 2:43:06Patrick Bet-David?

  The people that won, they know about it. We're gonna have it here soon. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be exciting. Gang, once again, the last thing I'll tell you, the 20 threats webinar. That's coming up, Rob. If you can go to the website, go to VTwebinar.com, register to get that white paper. We're gonna do this every single year to give that report to you. Go to VTwebinar.com, put it in your calendar, August 19th, 6pm Eastern Standard Time. 6pm Eastern Standard Time. We gotta get out of here to get on a flight to go to LA. To LA. We're coming to you, but we're not coming where you think we are.

• 2:43:36Tom Ellsworth?

  No.

• 2:43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But we are coming to LA. We're gonna see some of you guys.

• 2:43:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Live and die in LA.

• 2:43:41Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna become trans, pal.

• 2:43:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Pat, thank you for an awesome Vegas trip, the PHP event.

• 2:43:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This was amazing.

• 2:43:45Tom Ellsworth?

  If you guys are watching at PHP, great job. Integrity, great job.

• 2:43:48Patrick Bet-David?

  I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

• 2:43:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Bye.

• 2:43:52Adam Sosnick?

  What was a must up thing, Hal?

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