Jimmy Kimmel OFF-AIR, Netanyahu DENIES Charlie Kirk Conspiracy & Trump TARGETS Ilhan Omar | PBD Podcast | Ep. 652

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick unpack the fallout from Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air after his remarks about Charlie Kirk’s murderer, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s denial of conspiracies linking him to Kirk’s death, and Trump’s latest move to go after Rep. Ilhan Omar. ------ ✝️ FAITH OVER FEAR COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4nAU1Qe?r=qr Ⓜ️ JOIN THE PBD PODCAST CIRCLES COMMUNITY: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:28Speaker 01

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• 1:06Patrick Bet-David?

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:11Speaker 03

  You are a one of one?

• 1:11Speaker 04

  My son's right there.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:19Patrick Bet-David?

  You ask to move stuff. You complain, you take your shoes off. Socks off. I'm making myself at home. Your flag is upside, your flag is signed. No, I'm here on time. Holy, well, anyways, gang, great to be with you here. Tom is back. Tom was in Vegas the last three days. There was a big pimps and hoes party going on. So he was at that nightclub, and he crushed it at Dre's after-party, but... I can smell the tequila. He came back with all these glow sticks.

• 1:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly, I got the glow sticks.

• 1:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Geez up, hoes down.

• 1:49Tom Ellsworth?

  They said, "You want some X?" And I said, "I have a great X account." And they said, "Give me some glow sticks." I didn't understand.

• 1:55Patrick Bet-David?

  He's massaging RJ and Paul in the back, and they're like, "Hey, man, Tim is the best." But it was great.

• 2:00Tom Ellsworth?

  I now have a three-year deal with Hakkasan.

• 2:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom is back, guys. And some of you guys, the reference I made, you have to be... You have to be probably my age to know the reference I made. If you're not my age, it offended you, forgive me, we'll move on. Thirty-eight, thirty-eight. We got a lot of stories, we got a lot of stories to go through here, a ton of them. Jimmy Kimmel is looking for a job. So if anybody's hiring, Rob's got some ideas of what he thinks is gonna happen with Netflix, and he wanted this, and because he was gonna get paid more, and maybe we'll get into that. And then there's stories about Bob Iger from Disney giving him feedback, and he kinda told him to go screw himself, and then Bob is finally like, listen, we're not doing this, and a decision was made. But of course, we gotta blame the FCC, and we gotta blame Trump for cancellation and free speech.

• 2:43Patrick Bet-David?

  All of that stuff's gotta be blamed for them, but there's so many great clips to go through with Kimmel, and we'll talk about that. Keith Oberman blames Trump for Charlie Kirk's death, slams ABC, Disney, and Bob Iger on turning MAGA. It's not MAGA. Keith Oberman, seriously, the guy needs a prayer, like you said. CNN Caitlin Collins accused of lying after claiming there's no motive for Charlie Kirk's assassination. Can you imagine that? Was this one with Ted Cruz? It was a back and forth with Ted Cruz, I believe, right? And he called him out. Bill Ackman shares Charlie Kirk's text to dispel Candace Owens' claims of Israel blackmail, and apparently Netanyahu got into it as well, and he responded back.

• 3:25Patrick Bet-David?

  He didn't show texts or signals, but he definitely had a message about that. All right, let's see here. Nick Fontes said a couple thoughts, Adam's got a clip of that, we'll go through that. Dearborn Muslim mayor unleashes on Christian residents at city meeting. You know what she said? In church. The mayor said? The mayor said, "You are not welcome here." Did you hear that? "You are not, you Christian people are not welcome in America." Okay, all right, so we'll go more into that part. Suspect in Charlie Kirk's killing feared being shot by police before surrendering, sheriff says. And then we got, "I deeply regret..." Remember the guy from last week when Adam said?

• 4:08Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy's a decorated journalist, one of the greatest journalists of our generation. Deserved of a purple heart. Cronkite's got nothing on this. If he started a podcast, he'd be Joe. He said this, Adam said this on Wednesday. That was literally my quote. The guy came out, and he said, "I deeply regret..." Regret, what do you have to say? But Adam still thinks he's phenomenal. Like a, like a, like a, what did he say? Have a retraction. Weird. No, no, it's fine. Obama condemns horrific Kirk shooting, but says this type of stuff didn't happen when I was president. You know what I'm saying? And, and the racism stuff at all. Like, he didn't at all use a black card whatsoever. He was just, you know, unifying America. Nah, just doing speeches, dropping his Rs.

• 4:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Dear Abby Phillips dismisses online celebrations of Kirk killing as random individuals. American Psychologist Association study blames rising political violence on burnout. Okay, that's what it is. Russia, China, and Iran use Kirk's murder to stoke conspiracy theories and division. By the way, great time to do it. The timing of trying to divide America is phenomenal right now. If you hated America, what a great time to try to divide America and create chaos. A phenomenal time. And do you think Iran, Russia, and China are capable of doing that? Do you think they're salivating of what America looks like today? What do you think they're thinking about? You think they're sitting there mourning? Or you think they're celebrating that America's got some issues going on right now? They're probably salivating.

• 5:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel, we already know that, we already know that. The TikTok deal, we're gonna talk about interest rates. Tom's been ecstatic, Fed approves quarter point interest rate cuts, and sees two more coming this year. And, uh, you know, Tom, Tom was so ecstatic that he took three days off. He was just like in Vegas, like, this is a big deal, guys. And went to Vegas to kick it and have a good time. So. Walk around doing research. Wall Street Journal story, you ready for Wall Street Journal story? America Loves Cocaine Again. Tom, let's go! Is that why you were in Vegas? Vegas, Tom! By the way, what an article. Can you imagine the title of the article? You would've thought that's like Daily Mail, or like, you know, some of these other papers. It's Wall Street Journal, America Loves Cocaine Again.

• 6:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Mexico's New Drug King Cashes In. Thank you, Donald Trump! Economic Times, this next story, Two Men Found Hanging in Mississippi on the Same Day. Suspicious Death Stuns State. Okay, the, the two hanging. Kamala Harris says, allegedly, she would've picked Pete Buttigieg if he weren't gay.

• 6:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that, isn't that like, that's offensive.

• 6:44Speaker 06

  But she's, she's on the left, so it's fine.

• 6:46Patrick Bet-David?

  That's like, that's like such an offensive B I comment.

• 6:48Tom Ellsworth?

  She can actually say that on a book tour. No one else can.

• 6:51Speaker 06

  Nobody else.

• 6:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine if you would have said that, that you're gonna run for being a mayor? And you're gonna choose your vice mayor and you say, I wouldn't have chose him if, if he was straight, I would have picked him.

• 7:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Or just someone else on their own book tour, unrelated and says, ah, you know.

• 7:06Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I think Pete would have done better than Kamala. I think if Pete was the pick, Pete would have done better than Kamala. Kamala was a mess. But she's got a book, guys, if you want to read it, you know, there's, there's a lot of great stuff going on.

• 7:18Speaker 06

  A lot of laughing and cackling the whole time.

• 7:20Tom Ellsworth?

  106% lower blood alcohol.

• 7:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Bondi and hot water, which we gotta talk about over hate speech. The stuff that she said, it's,

• 7:26Speaker 06

  It's not good.

• 7:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Got people walking a little bit. It's like, I don't know if I'm, if I'm with that, but we'll talk about that. Nvidia takes a $5 billion stake in Intel, joining the US government as a major shareholder. It's a very important thing there and there's one part of it that makes both me and Tom uncomfortable. Maybe we'll talk about that and Intel surges 18% after Nvidia says they're taking 5 billion. Guess what happened for a minute? For a single minute, you know who was the richest man on earth? It was Larry Ellison at $450 billion. Larry Ellison, his net worth went up in one day. What was it? 106 billion dollars? In a single day, his net worth went up 106 billion dollars. Think about that.

• 8:05Tom Ellsworth?

  You gotta put billionaires in perspective. He actually owns one of the Hawaiian islands.

• 8:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, he's, he's got, he's got money. He's got room. He's gonna be okay. So Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel refuses to apologize and there's a bunch of other things. Even David Letterman got involved and we have to show something about Ilhan Omar. Trump tweeted something about Ilhan Omar and her ex-husband that we have to address. And I'm gonna show you guys a clip for UFC 2026. There's one person that may be the person in the fight and I think people are gonna be flabbergasted. It's an insider, you know, some information that's coming out that this guy may be the. On the card, so I'm excited about that. Alright, having said that, Vinny's been working on something for the last six months, a shirt that he's excited about, truly he's excited about. And I want Vinny to tell you about the shirt, you go for it.

• 8:52Speaker 06

  Thanks, Pat. So, so guys, like Pat said, I've been trying to work on this shirt for almost a year, Pat, if I'm gonna really break it down. And we, you know, traveling, Italy, this, that, never got back to it. But now I think this is the best time, especially with the battle and everything that we're going through right now. I'm calling it like the faith-based line. It's a, it's a faith over fear shirt. I have the cross in the front. Boom, in the front to let everybody know where you're at. And then I have this on the back. Faith over fear and the Hebrews 11:1, Adam, you'll like this. Thank you, buddy. His faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. Everybody knows this. Jesus Christ was born over 2,000 years ago. None of us have seen him. Nobody, nobody's talked to him, but guess what? We believe. Okay, that's the faith. And the greatest story of faith I've ever heard, Tom told me,

• 9:35Speaker 06

  it was a centurion Roman soldier and he saw Jesus and he went up to Jesus and he said, "Jesus, my servant, my young servant is at the house and he's paralyzed and he's in immense suffering." And Jesus goes, "Shall I come and heal him?" And the centurion, by the way, a Gentile, looks at him and says, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you under my roof, but just say the word and you shall be healed." Think about that, Pat. So Jesus turns to his disciples and he goes, "I have not found anyone in Israel with such faith." And he says to the centurion, he goes, "Go and let it be done just as you believe it would." Okay, and the, and the servant was healed. That is faith, guys. So, and if you have faith and you are a Christian,

• 10:16Speaker 06

  you have nothing to fear. In the Bible, the command of "do not fear, do not be afraid" is said 365 times in a different variation. Okay, and that's one for every single day. So if you have faith, guys, if you have faith in God and Jesus Christ, you have nothing to fear, nothing to fear. And that's what motivated me and I made this shirt. Boom, it's on the website, Pat. We have black, there's white, there's maroon, and there's different variations, Robbie, if you can. The shirt, boom, faith over fear. No, it's ridiculous, bro.

• 10:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the white one.

• 10:46Speaker 06

  And by the way, you know like I wear my cross, guys? When you wear this shirt, you don't need jewelry, because that lets everybody in front of you know, and then when I leave.

• 10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Respect, gang, go support it. Love it. Vinnie's merch, faith over fear, um, white, black, gray, red, pick and choose. It's out there for you to order, vtmerch.com. Okay, let's get right into it. With everything going on, I think the first, most appropriate story for us to get into is Jimmy Kimmel. On Thursday, out of nowhere, we get news, no, on Wednesday afternoon, we get news that ABC has moved on with Jimmy Kimmel. Everybody was shell shocked. What do you mean they've moved on with Jimmy Kimmel? And then news came out that the reason why this happened is because the FCC, and by the way, it was over these comments. Let's play the clip to what the comments were and then we'll get into a couple of other things. Go ahead, Rob.

• 11:36Speaker 07

  We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?

• 12:06Speaker 08

  I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's gonna be a beauty.

• 12:20Speaker 07

  Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.

• 12:26Speaker 07

  Demolition, construction.

• 12:31Speaker 07

  This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone.

• 12:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That comment is made. Stephen A. Smith said something very interesting. He said, look, aren't, aren't late night show hosts supposed to be funny? He says, that's not even funny. So what's funny about that? Like, at least tell a funny joke, right? At least make us laugh. You're not even doing that, which is the most simple question. This is the one, yeah, 13 second one, Rob, go for it.

• 12:53Speaker 09

  The only thing that I would say as it pertains to Jimmy Kimmel was, where was the joke? Cause you're a late night host and obviously that has a comedic attachment, attachment to it. Where was the joke?

• 13:04Patrick Bet-David?

  He's right. So your job is to make people laugh. And I've said this for a long time. I have no problem with what, you know, he wants to say. Go be a pundit. Go apply and work at CNN. Go start a podcast and compete with Midas Touch. Go, go compete with some of the big podcasters. When they had their podcast during COVID, they actually did well, him and his couple buddies that they had their thing going on. But man, we want to watch you and we want you to make us laugh. We want you to get into, not get into politics and lose half the audience. Many, many years ago, the great, the one and only Johnny Carson was asked by Mike Wallace, "Hey, what do I do? What do I do as a late night show host? How come you never talk about politics?" And he gave such a simple answer. And this is the interview.

• 13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's the great, the one of one. This guy is a one of one. There will never be another Johnny Carson. This is what he had to say.

• 13:57Speaker 10

  People say he'll never take a serious controversy. Well, I have an answer to that. I said, no, tell me the last time that Jack Benny, red skeleton, uh, Benny comedian.

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• 15:10Speaker 10

  Use his show to do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that? But you're neither, they think that just because you have a Tonight Show that you must deal in serious issues. It's a danger. It's a real danger. Once you start that, you start to get that self-important feeling that what you say has great import. And you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as a form. You could sway people. And I don't think you should as an entertainer.

• 15:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo. Bingo.

• 15:38Patrick Bet-David?

  This is why he's Johnny Carson, right?

• 15:40Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a psychic.

• 15:40Patrick Bet-David?

  So, Tom, can you, you know some of the things? Maybe, maybe walk us through what happened with Disney, Bob Iger. Because obviously, the story here, when you hear that Bob Iger reaches out, and, uh, where's the story about Bob Iger, Rob?

• 15:53Tom Ellsworth?

  That is in the addendum. That is page-

• 15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's a story that says Bob Iger reached out, uh, uh-

• 16:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, page five, Unrepentant-

• 16:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, Unrepentant Jimmy Kimmel refused to, refused to apologize after Charlie Kirk outrage and planned to double down on MAGA attack, uh, uh, report. This is a New York Post story. Uh, let me read this to you here, and then, Rob, you can go to whatever you got up there with, uh, Jesse. Late night show Jimmy Kimmel said he was unwilling to apologize for his remarks that blamed MAGA supporters for killing conservative Charlie Kirk, and said he was going to double down on attacks, uh, on attacking President Trump's backers. Before he was yanked from air, Kimmel, uh, learned in a phone call from top Disney exec Dana Walden on Wednesday afternoon that his show was being removed indefinitely. Deadline reported citing sources. During the call, Kimmel reportedly refused to comply with calls from critics, and the owners of dozens of

• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  ABC affiliate stations for him to apologize. Kimmel felt his remarks required no apologies. Another source told Hollywood reported that Jimmy Kimmel Live host also claimed that he was planning to call out his critics for the late attack on him, all while trying to clarify his comments about Charlie Kirk. Said Kimmel had claimed his comments were mischaracterized when he said, during a Monday night show, which was the clip that, uh, we played for you. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 17:10Tom Ellsworth?

  So, there's a, there's a quick backstory. Can we do a quick, quick backstory here? So, Jimmy Kimmel's contract is up before the end of this year.

• 17:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 17:19Tom Ellsworth?

  And he was getting ready to negotiate, and they were getting ready to not renew him. And here's why. Uh, Rob, can you quickly go to the chart? Late night- As a category has been unprofitable, these are analysts looking at it, Pat, since 22. Since the bounce out year after COVID, late night has been unprofitable. Look at the ratings here. Kimmel, Late Show, Tonight Show, we have a chart right up here. Look at that, Vinnie. What is that? You don't need to be a math expert to look at that.

• 17:50Speaker 06

  And is that weird, Tom? It's all, everybody's watching because it was Trump, 2016, Trump. Everybody took the Trump, Trump, and but people are done. They're tired.

• 17:57Tom Ellsworth?

  They say in 2022, all of the networks started suffering and saying that their late night, they had giant contracts. Remember, it's not just the hosts. They have producer contracts.

• 18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one's Fallon, by the way?

• 18:08Speaker 12

  Late Show, right? No, the Tonight Show.

• 18:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Who's the Late Show? Colbert?

• 18:12Speaker 12

  Yes.

• 18:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay. So, so, so Kimmel was, Fallon was number one. Fallon was number one.

• 18:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Barely.

• 18:19Patrick Bet-David?

  He was, he crushed it in 2014, whatever that was. Yeah, he was, because that's right after Leno. You see Leno and then comes Fallon? At least Leno kept going at 0.96, 0.85, 0.85, then shows up 1.01, and then Fallon, year one, is on fire, 1.5 for 1.18, 1.02. And then by year four, he fell below what Leno was and never recovered from it from 17 on.

• 18:43Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly right. So here's the backstory. Late night unprofitable since 2022. They're about to negotiate with Jimmy Kimmel. And guess what? This gave them the reason they needed. And it was affiliates and advertisers that first went to Iger. And supposedly, as you just covered, Kimmel is going to double down. And Deadline Hollywood and some others were leaking out that some people on, on the, the writing staff kind of leaked, who are looking for jobs tomorrow, Vinnie, right? It's not just the star with the big contract. How many people are around, like a comedy show and stuff? You've got like 12 people, directors?

• 19:19Speaker 06

  Writers.

• 19:20Tom Ellsworth?

  Good people with jobs, right? Do they want to protect their jobs?

• 19:23Speaker 06

  Of course.

• 19:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Might they have whispered upstairs that says, hey, he's about to double down tonight?

• 19:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, if their job is on the line too.

• 19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't want to be really part of this. You guys can do it. And what happened was then Iger's people said, dude, you know, you're not doing this. You're not doubling down. And they pulled them off. But the back, everybody runs to First Amendment and all that. This isn't First Amendment. This is an employee gone haywire, and you've got advertisers and other people. So let's put it into our perspective, Pat. You have a company, you're selling things, the customers are upset with the salesperson. The customers are upset with one of your employees. You know what you do? You say, "Go wait a minute, let's look into this." And an employee might get fired, or, or put on the bench for a few minutes. That's what happened here. This was a, and by the way, Chris Cuomo got it right. Last night, Chris Cuomo was saying, "Hey."

• 20:12Tom Ellsworth?

  He got sideways with this employer, and his employer took action. That's what happened. But the big thing, Pat, is ABC and everybody else have been looking for a reason to move these off because as late night as a category is getting killed by Netflix streaming and alternatives because the new generation doesn't want them. And by the way, Kimmel is 57. Leno, they started talking to him about getting off the air because he wasn't doing good with the demographic, when he was 59. And he fought it until he was 63, when they finally pushed him off.

• 20:49Patrick Bet-David?

  I think Vinnie has a great idea, okay? Vinnie, you, you had an idea about, well, you think, who should replace a guy like this? For them to test something out, go ahead.

• 20:57Speaker 06

  And why not? And, and, and thanks. Like, if you guys think about it, it's, Tom, what are you talking about? Words talk and numbers scream. How much louder do those numbers have to punch you in the face? For instance, and I'm happy you did it, uh...

• 21:09Tom Ellsworth?

  They're screaming.

• 21:10Speaker 06

  In August, Kimmel's ratings was 1.1 million total viewers. It was down around 1.9 million in January. The key 18 to 49 demographic dropped about 284,000 in June to 129,000, okay? Nobody's watching, okay? And you, you, you had us read the book, Blue Ocean Strategy, for, for you guys that have... Who, who wrote the book?

• 21:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, W.C. Chen and another lady that we have.

• 21:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Our born.

• 21:35Speaker 06

  Guys, when people are in the red ocean, fighting and killing and everything, and it's not working, you go to the blue ocean, where it's clear you have a different plan. Why not ABC, CBS, all these freaking networks, huh? Have, try a conservative person that's in the middle that's just funny. The five on the Fox...

• 21:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Who are you thinking?

• 21:52Speaker 06

  Works. I don't know. I don't know who it would be. Somebody that's, somebody that's willing to, like, to find a Johnny Carson, but it's not gonna be one of these...

• 21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I have one guy.

• 22:00Speaker 06

  Who do you think it would be?

• 22:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Marcelo. I have one guy.

• 22:03Tom Ellsworth?

  My guy, Marcelo Hernandez.

• 22:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys, I've been saying this for a minute.

• 22:06Speaker 06

  I remember.

• 22:06Patrick Bet-David?

  I have one guy, I think, and Marcelo's not even a conservative. Marcelo's just a regular guy, yeah. I have one guy... If you're smart enough to get a guy like him, how old is he, 28?

• 22:18Speaker 06

  He's 28 years old.

• 22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  20 years. Now, they're probably gonna wait 10 more years till he gets the job. They're probably not gonna hire him at 28, maybe they're gonna wait till 38. But if I was a guy, I would start, you know, I would start working with him and finding a way for him to become that. He's young, he's funny, he's energetic, he is multifaceted, he gets along with everybody. And he's 28, you have a long ways to go with him, and he literally talks zero politics.

• 22:44Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 22:44Patrick Bet-David?

  At all. So you need someone like that. There's no politics tied to this guy. If I, if I bring a late night show, you know, I think there's a couple of the guys that, you know, I'm a big believer of a lot of these other comedians that are out there. But if I'm doing this and you truly wanna go to none, bring a guy that's neutral like him. And see how he does, how he performs. He would be on my top 5 list if I'm hiring somebody.

• 23:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, and I would look to do it now and go back to what Carson said. I'm not looking for you to be 38 years old and have depth of understanding of all these issues. Cause that's not what I want you to be.

• 23:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, and mind you, I think, I know, I understand what the waiting. He would crush it right now. If they announced that he's there, bro, finally, not the same old white guy that's just like, hey, America sucks, this guy sucks, it's boring. And you know what pissed me off about the whole situation? Was the selective outrage. And for all those people out there, please just cry me a freaking river. Where was everybody when they fired Tim Allen for being a conservative? Okay, Last Man Standing had some of the highest ratings for years. And they canceled it because of his political affiliation, okay? Who else? Gita Carano, Roseanne Barr, Megyn Kelly, even Jason Whitlock.

• 23:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Megyn Kelly fired for making comments about Halloween costumes.

• 23:56Speaker 06

  About Halloween, so I, I don't wanna hear anybody, anybody talking about free speech. Because free speech is free, you can say whatever you want, but there's consequences. My question to you is, if somebody had value tainment, okay, you, you're a free, free speech absolutist. If Rob started going out there and just bashing Charlie's family, I hope he, good for him. And falsely, Jimmy Kimmel, falsely claiming that this freaking Tyler guy was a MAGA guy. You have every right under the law to fire him.

• 24:27Patrick Bet-David?

  I would say to him, here's what I would say to him, I said, Rob, you gotta apologize. And Rob would apologize. And a heartbeat. And he would say, you know what? You're right. Hey, that was wrong. Can you just say something? I apologize. And then we move on, right? And, and for example, like on the last podcast, Eric Bowling here said that Candace hasn't spoke at, what do you call it? T P USA. At T P USA for many years. And then guy sent me a message. I don't follow who speaks at the and guy sent me a message saying, hey, she did speak at the event. Okay, she did speak. So correction on what Eric said. She actually did speak in June of 24. I thought she spoke in 23 because she was pregnant last year. So she did speak in June of 2024 at Turning Point USA.

• 25:09Patrick Bet-David?

  When you do go through it and somebody gets it wrong, all you have to say is, hey, this is what happened here. So if, if Rob all of a sudden is like, I'm not gonna apologize. Yeah. Rob, I'm sorry, buddy. That was, the guy's family died. Yeah, he died. And you're literally blaming somebody. What are you talking about? No. I'm not gonna do it. Dude, listen, I'm sorry, man. This company is not for you. Yeah. Go to a different place. Yeah. That's all it is. It's not a, listen, ain't nobody gonna get everything right 100%. I didn't want Jimmy to get fired. I just wanted Jimmy to, you know, there comes a time in your life, honestly, where I think you, you pay attention to politics more and you choose a position.

• 25:49Patrick Bet-David?

  That doesn't necessarily happen in your twenties like it did with Charlie and a lot of younger Gen Z. They're gonna rock the world for decades to come. Watch what Gen Z conservative kids are gonna do the next 10, 20, 30 years. Just what, we're gonna witness what this generation is gonna do because of Charlie. But to me, when do you start really caring about politics? When you start making money? When you start caring about politics? When you have kids, family, grand, when you start really caring about politics? When you start paying really a lot of taxes? When you start caring about politics? When you're around a lot of other people that are feeding you whatever, he's in it, right? Of course. But if you wanna talk politics, Jimmy, and just say, you know, it would have been more honorable to say, look. I'm at a phase of my life that I think comedies changed my life.

• 26:35Patrick Bet-David?

  And I'm a comedian first. But honestly, I've been sitting with my friends and family. And a lot of people that I respect and they're telling me, Jimmy, you're talking too much politics every night. And it's no longer comedy and I agree. And this is why I've chosen to go and move away from this. And I want to go out there and start talking about issues that matter to me. If he would have done that, guess what you say? You know what? Fair.

• 26:57Speaker 06

  Fair.

• 26:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Fair enough. Go, go start your podcast. Go to CNN, go to MSNBC. Go somewhere. But your job is to make people laugh. When is actually the last time? You watched a late night show from beginning to the end, honestly?

• 27:10Speaker 06

  No, no. Zero.

• 27:12Patrick Bet-David?

  When's the last time?

• 27:13Speaker 06

  Can I be honest with you? I don't think I ever, I, I think I have watched the full ones of Johnny Carson, the, the, the, just the whole thing.

• 27:20Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched Leno.

• 27:21Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 27:21Patrick Bet-David?

  For years.

• 27:22Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 27:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I watched Leno. And by the way, I liked Fallon at the beginning.

• 27:27Speaker 06

  Oh, my God.

• 27:27Patrick Bet-David?

  He was funny. He would dance. He would sing. Justin Timberlake would come up. It was awesome. It was great. It was fantastic, right? You law, this is a great business model of America. What we need right now, believe it or not, Vinnie. We really do need comedy right now. And I know this sounds weird. We need comedy right now. We need to laugh right now. The business of laughing should do very well today. It should be great. People should be seeking it. You make a couple animal videos. One of them gets 30 million views.

• 28:00Speaker 06

  Forty-four now.

• 28:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-four million views and animal video. You want to see one of them? Can you pull up one of these videos?

• 28:05Speaker 06

  Rob, I'll tell you.

• 28:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Go, go, go to Popular.

• 28:08Speaker 06

  Go right, right.

• 28:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to Popular. I've always liked the first one, man. The first one with the monkey running down. Watch this. Oh, is this the one?

• 28:14Speaker 06

  He's fighting with his wife.

• 28:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this. Oh, wait a minute. Watch.

• 28:16Speaker 06

  I don't know if this.

• 28:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Got to be careful.

• 28:18Speaker 06

  Not even doing anything. So who is that? Your girlfriend? She's cute. What? I was being polite.

• 28:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause it right there. Okay, watch this.

• 28:27Adam Sosnick?

  They're arguing.

• 28:28Patrick Bet-David?

  How many likes? 942,000 likes. How many views? Forty million.

• 28:34Adam Sosnick?

  Forty-four.

• 28:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-four million views.

• 28:36Adam Sosnick?

  And that's where we're at.

• 28:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And this channel right now is at 809,000 subs. Do you know which one of our channels is growing that fast? None of them. You know why? People want to laugh.

• 28:44Adam Sosnick?

  Very true.

• 28:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is a great time to be in the laugh business. I don't know if people realize. There's so much pressure. There's so much tension. People would much rather watch Vinnie do 20 voices of animals running around than freaking watch serious topics. And I mean, yeah, we will sit here, do research.

• 29:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie will be running out to somebody, you know, doing his thing. Boom, puts it up 22 million views. Okay, there is no politics in that topic. So to me, the reason why I'm saying this is there is a model for comedy on late night. But they're getting it wrong.

• 29:18Adam Sosnick?

  Yep.

• 29:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Like the late night people that are running it, dude, there is a business model for it. It's not dead. It's not over. You screwed it up. There needs to be a basic policy. Make fun of both sides. Who the hell is the booker? Where out of 172 guests? Colbert had 171 was on the liberal side. And one was on the conservative side. And the one that was conservative was Liz Cheney.

• 29:41Adam Sosnick?

  Jesus.

• 29:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Who hates Trump. Did you invite Charlie? You missed out on having Charlie on your show? Are you flipping kidding me? You missed out on having all these guys on your show? Why not? It would have brought so many eyeballs. So I don't think it's dead. I just think they royally screwed up with a great opportunity. And I think there's still, there's still a chance there. Adam, your thoughts here? You, you just want to watch Marcelo, matter of fact.

• 30:03Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I went to see Marcelo last night. If you haven't heard of Marcelo Hernandez, he's the young rising star on SNL. And he's like my little brother. He worked here for two years.

• 30:12Patrick Bet-David?

  I gave him a big raise once.

• 30:13Adam Sosnick?

  You actually shot him down for a raise.

• 30:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Because your show wasn't making money.

• 30:17Adam Sosnick?

  Well, YouTube shows don't make money, but let's not go there. But the kid is killing it right now. And I'm so proud of the freaking guy and his Netflix special is coming out. But you know what he is more than anything? Funny.

• 30:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Adam Sosnick?

  Here's the deal. Jimmy Kimmel is not funny.

• 30:35Speaker 06

  At all.

• 30:35Adam Sosnick?

  He's just not funny. You know how they always say like in the culture wars, go woke, go broke?

• 30:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, not funny, no money, bro. No laughs, no cash. I remember when I one time talked to him. I said- Who, Jimmy Kimmel? No, no, Marcelo. Oh, okay. One time I'm telling Marcelo, because Marcelo would send the office, and you don't realize, we're his audience. Yes. He's working us. Yeah, yeah. All the time. Practicing. And he's just, and, and, and I know what he's doing. Yeah. But I'm like, dude, you're so good. Like, he would just do his stuff all the time, right? And one time I'm like, so what do you want to do? He says, I have this special. So you got this, he says, I have this special. I said, really? Yeah. I said, so why don't we think about something for you to do here as a show? This is four years ago. He says, no, Pat, I can't. I said, why? My dream is to be on SNL. I'm gonna be on SNL. Yeah. Like, Marcelo, let us get a podcast and a show going for you here. Do something with us. I can't. I have to be on SNL.

• 31:25Patrick Bet-David?

  This guy was, he says, Pat, he says, I would rather take thirty thousand dollars from Netflix than a million dollars from anybody else just to make sure my special is on Netflix. Oh, yeah. Wow. And he says, I have something. I know it's gonna do well. I said, all right, do your thing. So what happens? The guy's now in Happy Gilmore 2, doing stuff with Bad Bunny, doing stuff with pretty much anybody and everybody. But moral of the story with this comedy stuff is, it's not over with. Now, here's, here's Barack Obama, okay? Oh, my favorite. When you're, when you're talking about, you know, he, he's talking about, uh, uh, comments about, uh, uh, Charlie Kirk. Rob, I think you have it. Yeah. Uh, bu- by the way, have we gone to the Keith Oberman stuff? He, he's not talking about K- Kimmel here, right? He's talking like, he's talking about Charlie Kirk. Yes, Charlie Kirk. Okay.

• 32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Do me a favor, go, let's, we'll come back to this. Trust me, folks, you have to watch this. Go to, play that Chris, uh, uh, clip that you have, right? Rob, right there. This, this is part of the stuff that's the controversy of- Chris Hayes. I cannot believe, you know, the, the cancellation. And I was like, wait a minute, what did you say when Tucker got fired? Yeah, yeah, did you forget? Because here's a great thing about the internet today. You know what's awesome about the internet today? It remembers!

• 32:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Go behind you, dog. Yeah. The receipts are everywhere. Go ahead, Rob.

• 32:39Speaker 14

  You see me at the announcement, Kimmel would indeed be taken off the air indefinitely. And this is just the latest chapter in Donald Trump's ongoing campaign to crack down on free speech, dominate the media, and essentially render the First Amendment meaningless. So it was for the journeyman cable news host Tucker Carlson, just fired from his third network. He believed he could say anything, no matter how vile, no matter how disgusting, no matter how offensive, no matter how dehumanizing or belittling. And if you act like a sociopath over and over and over and over, you will become unpopular on the national stage. That's just like a basic principle. Over time, probably not gonna work out well for you.

• 33:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I thought he was gonna say something else, like not, what popular? The guy was running the number one show when he got fired.

• 33:31Speaker 14

  Yep.

• 33:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, and even today, his podcast is a top three, top four podcast on Spotify, ongoing, okay? And he goes around the world interviewing guys. You don't have to agree with him. I don't agree with a lot of stuff sometimes Tucker says, but guess what? You can't, you can't say the stuff about, by the way, I even had Tucker to speak at the Vol conference. We have text exchange, she and I, three months ago, invited him to come and speak. And I said, can you just give the landscape of what's going on? He had, I think he had something going on with hunting or something he had going on for himself. But, so the story here is, when you hear these, I can't believe what they, Keith Olbermann, can you pull up a Keith Olbermann? Keith Olbermann, there's a story of him calling Bob Iger, apparently has joined MAGA folks.

• 34:13Speaker 14

  Bob Iger, yeah, of all people, sure. Disney CEO, real MAGA.

• 34:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Burn in hell Sinclair.

• 34:19Speaker 14

  This guy's.

• 34:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Alongside Charlie Kirk.

• 34:21Speaker 14

  Unbelievable.

• 34:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you flipping kidding me? Are you flipping kidding me to say something like that? Now, the problem with this guy is, he's been fired so many times, there is no more firing cap. And yesterday, Destiny was apparently demonetized on YouTube. That's a decision that YouTube made. Did you guys see that or no?

• 34:39Speaker 14

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I think that happened because he said something, what did he say? Another clip was circulating that he said, I hope Charlie Kirk's, you know which one I'm talking about, right there, zoom in a little bit, FB post?

• 34:50Speaker 14

  Come on, Destiny.

• 34:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Liberal streamer Destiny, who recently refused to disavow the political motivation of Charlie Kirk, has been demonetized on YouTube. I don't like to see it. I don't, I don't agree with 99% of what this guy says. If this guy doesn't incite violence... And say things like that, you'd still be up. We still need the opposition of arguments. Yup. You know, but I, there's one rule I have. The inciting violence. Okay? All the other stuff, people want to make fun of him, how he chose to be married to this other girl, how he chose to be, that's his personal life. I don't care what he wants to do with that part. But you cross the line and you say something about Republicans and MAGA and capitalists and all this, I was on Piker, these guys, you know, there's a slippery slope. So this leads to Pam Bondi, Rob. Okay? Great.

• 35:36Patrick Bet-David?

  This leads to Pam Bondi. And the Pam Bondi argument, it's going to be a contradiction with a lot of other stuff. So let me read this to you. Cause it's going to get a little spicy and I'm curious to know what everyone's thoughts going to be here. And Vinny, I'm probably going to come to you first. Okay. Okay? Uh, Pam Bondi, I know this story is on the second page or it's here. It's one of those, Rob, if you can tell me where, oh, there it is. Bondi in hot water over hate speech comments. I think, Rob, you got a video on it. Let me read this and then I'll come to you. So Pam Bondi is on the Kate Miller podcast and they're having this conversation. All right? And she's facing scrutiny over the comments she made about cracking down on hate speech. Uh, after the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

• 36:17Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the Hills article, by the way, stating the administration would, and here's what she had to say. Go ahead.

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• 37:24Speaker 16

  There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society.

• 37:33Speaker 17

  Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action?

• 37:44Speaker 16

  We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything, and that's across the aisle.

• 37:55Speaker 06

  You know how much that bothers me? Like, is, are they, listen, and again, people are always like, "You're just a blind loyalist." I don't like what she's doing. Cash Patel, to me, is just one of the worst picks that Trump has done so far.

• 38:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, really? You think that?

• 38:11Speaker 06

  I don't think, I personally don't think, Pat, the way he's handled himself with Epstein, and I get it, I get it, when you come into a position-

• 38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  What else outside of Epstein are you uncomfortable with? What else outside of it? Because that's a very strong statement you made.

• 38:24Speaker 06

  That's a big, that's a, everything that I've been seeing with everything that's happening right now and the way he's conducting himself in front of Congress as well when they're asking questions and you're not answering. By the way, I love the back and forth. I'm the freaking angry patriot.

• 38:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Can I ask you something real quick on that? So stay right there. Congress asking a question. What did you think of Cash and Adam Schiff? He went after him.

• 38:42Speaker 06

  Yeah, we, no, we loved, we showed it, um, when Eric was here.

• 38:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you said the way he's talking to Congress, but that seemed to me pretty, pretty strong.

• 38:50Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, very, very strong. And by the way, I love it. I would do the same thing, but when it comes to certain issues that you've been barking about for, for all these years to lead up to election, and I get it, people change once they're in, but once you're in, this is where I'm coming from, Pat. If I was doing all this, "I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this," and I came in and they were like, "Hey, you're not gonna do it." Guess what? You resign. I don't care how big of a news headline it would be. I know Dan Bongino's going through it, and I guess, we haven't even heard or seen, I think he probably shows up once in a blue moon, we actually see Dan Bongino, but I'm very disappointed. And for her, the number one attorney general, she's the number one law enforcement officer in the United States, okay? There's no such thing as hate speech, guys, okay? That's not a legal category under the Constitution. The First Amendment doesn't have an aster-

• 39:33Speaker 06

  That says, except for words that we don't like, okay, free speech is free speech, Tom. Period. And I'm a free speech absolutist. Okay, you could say dumb things, you could say offensive things. They'll get you punched in the face, you could get demonetized.

• 39:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Don't say something to an Armenian, bro.

• 39:47Speaker 06

  I agree. Well, that's what I'm saying, but that's the price, that's the price of living in a free country. You could say anything to me, Pat. We've been called, I've been called a terrorist. When people say, you know, I've been called this, or Spanish people are the N-word. A terrorist, a sand, the N-word, like, no, no, no, no. Guess what? We get it all the time. And guess what?

• 40:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, there's a lot of.

• 40:05Speaker 06

  Do it. Somebody might punch you in the face and then you deal with that. But then you made a great point. When you're inciting violence, when you're saying, cut them open, like Hassan Piker, or whatever he said allegedly, the blood. And Destiny's openly saying, openly said that he was plotting on murdering some, some guy in his freaking family. I'm sorry, I don't care what platform you're on, you have to, their actions are, are, there's consequences to your freaking actions. Okay, but the scary part is, Tom, when politicians and people that are under these politicians say stuff like hate speech, that verb, that, that, that, that label. It's up to whoever's in power to decide what counts. And that's what we saw under freaking Biden.

• 40:46Speaker 06

  We saw what they were doing. They were banning freaking the president of the United States off of Twitter and stuff. For, for, for what?

• 40:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that was the cancellation stuff, but Pam Bondi, she's the attorney general, and she should have said four things. I looked them up. Number one, in some form, you say, the price of free speech is free speech, and it may really upset you what other people say. However, that point one. Point two, if you incite violence, that is illegal. Uh, and you can get a knock on the door from law enforcement, you know, to investigate what your motives are, what's going on there. If you slander somebody, you could get sued in court.

• 41:20Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 41:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And lastly, if you threaten a president or an elected official, that's illegal. We're gonna come talk to you. But beyond that, we may not like it, but that's the price of free speech. That's all she had to say. Is saying if people are crossing the line, the federal government is going to investigate threats against elected officials, inciting violence. And then you slander somebody, you could find yourself in court and you can get sued.

• 41:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so give your thoughts, because I got some thoughts on this.

• 41:46Adam Sosnick?

  Thank you, sir. So, you know, you did an episode not too long ago about the importance of the constitution. So we have one of the youngest countries in the world. China's way older than us, India's way older than us, England's way older than us, United States, 249 years, we're about to have a birthday next year, big 250. But we have the oldest longstanding constitution in the world. Is that right, Pat?

• 42:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, hands down, oldest constitution in the world.

• 42:10Adam Sosnick?

  So it's working. And here's what it says, and I remember being in front of the Capitol in DC and I was reading my messages one day, and bro, these guys get real creative with the hate speech. There's nothing worse than waking up, all right, let me, let me check my phone. Oh, you dirty J, die, you son of, I was like, oh, let me just wake up a little bit. But free speech is protected. And then here's the controversial one. Hate speech, no matter how offensive, no matter how much it hurts your feelings, is protected under the constitution. What is not protected is incitement of violence. That's yelling, fire in a crowded theater, or literally encouraging someone to kill the president or kill somebody. That's what's going on here.

• 42:54Adam Sosnick?

  Last point, Tommy Robinson just had that big get together, what a rally.

• 43:00Speaker 12

  Unite the kingdom.

• 43:01Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, they don't have these free speech laws there in England. We see these stories about, yeah, a guy was just praying in front of a abortion clinic. Arrest him. A guy made a mean tweet online, arrest him. We're so lucky we live in America. Pam Bondi, just know the difference between hate speech and incitement of violence. Do better.

• 43:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so Michael Francis, ex-cop of the Gambino family, told me something one time. He said, Pat, my father, his father was Sonny Francis. If you don't know who Sonny Francis is, Sonny Francis is like, one of the most feared men ever, ever, in the history of the mob. Like Sonny Francis lived 130 years old, and I was one of the last guys that went and visited him when he was in the hospital and I took him out to lunch. I was trying to do an interview with him and it was the most heated lunch we ever had with me and his lawyer. It was so epic. The people that were there, that's a lunch you will never forget. I'm not gonna get into that in this moment, but it was a great meeting. Sonny told Michael, he says,

• 44:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Be very nice to some of the people that don't have power right now because one day they will. And when they do, they're gonna use their power against you. Says, "Respect the young guys coming up." You don't know who they're gonna be one day. And by the way, what a true statement. So when I was coming up, a couple of guys were not respectful to me, and I remember those guys. Because I was a nobody. It's like, who the hell is this guy? And you got, everybody's experienced this before, Tom, you've experienced it. Rob, you've experienced it. You were, Rob was just your regular employee. Rob, what was your first job? I don't even know what your first job was.

• 44:29Speaker 12

  Uh, 1099 Talent Booker for the podcast.

• 44:31Patrick Bet-David?

  You weren't even a W2 guy for us, right?

• 44:33Speaker 12

  No, for the first three months, I was 1099.

• 44:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob was so quiet, nobody knew what Rob was doing here. And then Rob worked his way up and stuck running. And all of a sudden, look at Rob's, you know, what he's doing today. So, you have to be very careful with that. And when, when you go back five years ago, and we would upload videos worried if it would be taken down. I remember one time our YouTube channel had two strikes. And me and Mario are sitting there, it's like, dude, what do we do? I mean, what's gonna happen next? They could all of a sudden make the decision to take it down. And so we would make videos on a mask. I made a video one time on masks. We had to go through it again and again and again and again and again and again, just to make sure, I hope this thing doesn't get taken down. If you go on YouTube, type in Masked David, I think I did a video sitting, uh,

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  no, I'm being, I'm actually,

• 45:21Speaker 12

  Remember that.

• 45:21Patrick Bet-David?

  The thumbnail had a mask on it, right? Masked David. We're looking at lawyers and all, it's so old.

• 45:26Speaker 12

  I remember that.

• 45:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Keep going, that, right there, right there, right there, right there. How many views does it have? Yeah, that video.

• 45:29Speaker 12

  Masked?

• 45:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so you have to be like, helpful or a hoax, five years ago. Like, man, lawyers, I don't know, we should put that, you may get a strike, you may get this, you may get a, you don't wanna do that, you don't wanna do this. And I'm just kinda going and pointing and saying, can a mask really protect us from it, right? I'm just showing the test for them. So, now, you have the power. So many great people got canceled during that time. Now you have the power. And you're gonna use the same thing and do the same thing they did? We don't want you to do that. And we went through it. We don't want you to do that. The only place that I have no tolerance for. Guys make a lot of videos about me and they trash me. The evil YouTuber, the day is so that's all. Let me tell you, Patrick, but David insurance, the way he made his money.

• 46:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I ran an insurance company. And a company came and paid us $250 million and bought the company from us three years ago. I'm no longer the CEO of the company. After nine months of research. After nine months of research, yeah, but let me tell you. And you know what it is? I don't blame a lot of these guys that make these videos. Insurance is very hard. Sales is very hard. So the one guy that wasn't supposed to make it now makes it and sells it. And the guy cuts a check for 250. Now, let me tell you with this guy. I don't want those guys' video to be taken down. But the only time I have a problem. The only, and I have zero tolerance for this. The only time I have a problem. If you joke about something that is inciting violence and threats to that person's life. You just cross the line with me. That's where mine stops.

• 46:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I am very easygoing until you get to this point. Disagree politically, disagree on, you know, I don't even like name calling. I don't like name calling, but you can call people names. You can use words. You can say whatever you want with all that stuff. That's the risk you take for, you know, saying what you're saying. But the moment you go to inciting violence. That's like why in capitalism we need monopoly laws. And a lot of people have crossed those lines. And then once you go there, these people have family, they have kids. I don't agree with a lot of things with, with, with, with a lot of people politically who say, say what they say. Dude, there's a lot of crazy stuff that's been said this last week. A lot of crazy stuff that's been said this last week.

• 47:43Patrick Bet-David?

  You hear Nick Fuentes, you see Candace, you see Tucker, you see us, you saw what Eric said, you saw what? All these people are saying, guess what? I have no problem with people that are making their assumptions or their, what do you call it? Opinions. Opinions. Now, when you say, I know for a fact, guess what? You're gonna get a lawsuit. Yep. If it's not right. 100%. Yeah, I know 100% what happened. Now, I'm thinking, I'm speculating, I think all this stuff. I want all these guys to continue creating content. They're talented, they're capable and let the market decide. But to me, you cross the line and you incite violence. To Charlie's family, to Nick's, to Candace, to anybody, to Pacman's family,

• 48:28Patrick Bet-David?

  to pick anyone, to the Midas Touch family, to Obama's family, to MTG's family, to any of these people's names, I'm not a fan of that, period. That's when you draw the line. So, I think Pam Bondi, as they're going through and they're doing some of these interviews, they have to be very careful. We need all these voices. We don't have to agree with them. By the way, when the Constitution was built, we just gotta go back and study the Constitution a little bit more. The founding fathers knew we needed debate. They knew we needed debate. And it was a lot of, lot of holes. By the way, at, at one point, you know, when, when they were going through, the Union was trying to find a way to eliminate the, uh, uh, slavery. You know what were the two states that did not want that to happen?

• 49:11Patrick Bet-David?

  You know what were the two states that kept fighting and they were so worried about if they go ahead with, you know, making slavery illegal, there were two states that were asking to be removed from the Union. They're like, hey, if you do this, we're gonna be out. You know what those two states were?

• 49:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Was it Georgia, South Carolina?

• 49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Georgia, South Carolina. Those two states. They're like, no, we're not with this. Georgia and South Carolina are like, no, no, no, we're not gonna be doing this. So, they're like, but no, we need this and this. And then they're going back and forth on what the argument was. And, and one time, um, I think it was Jefferson, uh, uh, that sat there and he said that the, the problem with slavery, why we have to get rid of it, is you're forcing, you're, you're making the slave hate the country by doing this. Vinny, what a powerful thing they said. Jefferson said, "By doing this, you're forcing slaves to hate the country. We don't want that." And he says, "Number two, you're making slave owners become tyrants."

• 50:10Patrick Bet-David?

  And that's how they'll do business with other people because they have so much power. Neither one is good for the country. So, the, the, the debate, cause you know, the South, was a lot of the Democrats, they liked the slave owners, they were all about the slave ownership and everybody else was like, no, we don't wanna come, we don't wanna do this, we gotta move on. Everybody's gotta have the rights, right? George Washington, a lot of these guys were not for it. And it was even a couple guys that would call them men, they would not call them slave or, you know, all this other, hey, I'm just, we have a relationship, we're doing this. And eventually it was done. We need debate. Because we may have blind spots with our arguments. But dude, you're gonna talk about inciting violence? No. If anybody's inciting violence, I would actually be more proactive on watching influencers

• 50:53Patrick Bet-David?

  that are inciting violence and going to knocking on their doors. Only if you're inciting violence. If you're inciting violence, we need one of these. Yep. Hey, we're here to talk to you. What's that? Uh, listen, man. These are three clips. Here's what you said. You have two choices. Boom, boom. And by the way, it's not even demonetization to me. It's not even demonetization to me. It's, it's, that message is not needed. You have influence. So that person has to be, like, you know how sometimes you scroll, what do they give you? They give you, um... In, in law? Yeah, when you go and you do, uh, you need to do 50 hours of... Community service. Community service. Hey, man. You know, you need to go through certain amount of hours on, you know, seeing why this

• 51:38Patrick Bet-David?

  you can't do. Like in financial services, when you have a securities license, every two years you're doing a continuing education. It sucks, it's three hours. Yeah. And you know why you do it? Just to know, hey, you can't do this. And they play the videos. What should you do in this situation? You should do this. Okay, great, next video, you should do this. Next video. If anybody's in financial services and you're watching this, you got your series 663, 24, 26, 7, whatever one of those you got, you know you love continuing education. Oh, yeah. Don't you just love those actors that they walk into the office? And you're like, I gotta do this every two or three years? Yes, you do. I think we have to be a little bit more intentional in that area and teach the youth. I don't think we're doing that. I think we need to take responsibility for that. And some of these companies need to be a little bit more proactive. Anyways, so that's my thought on this one.

• 52:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you play, so a couple of the clips I want to get into. I want to play this clip from CNN, Caitlin Collins, and then I want to get into the clip with Barack Obama, who, he is, uh, Barack Obama is on the left the last, you know, 20 years that we call him the greatest president they've had. And he's lost a lot of credibility, but he said some things that was just out of line. Here's Caitlin Collins and Ted Cruz having a back and forth. Go ahead, Rob.

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• 53:44Speaker 18

  And we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet. We're waiting. Obviously, we've heard what the governors had to say with the FBI director.

• 53:49Speaker 19

  Of course we know. Come on, we don't have a motive yet.

• 53:51Speaker 18

  We know.

• 53:52Speaker 19

  We don't have a motive yet.

• 53:53Speaker 18

  We know what's happening with...

• 53:54Speaker 19

  Really? That's CNN's position?

• 53:55Speaker 18

  I mean, from law enforcement, Senator.

• 53:56Speaker 19

  He just happened to fire the gun in celebration.

• 54:00Speaker 19

  You can't tell the motive here.

• 54:02Speaker 18

  Senator, that's not what I said. And I said law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages and what the shooter said to family members and to roommates.

• 54:12Speaker 19

  They've said that he was a left-wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk.

• 54:16Speaker 19

  Pardon?

• 54:17Speaker 18

  Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying. I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law enforcement has not put a specific motive. You know that there's a difference in what they're putting in a legal argument than what you're talking about.

• 54:29Speaker 19

  They have. That statement is false.

• 54:30Speaker 18

  And you're not even...

• 54:30Speaker 19

  What you just said is false.

• 54:31Speaker 18

  We're not even arguing about the facts here because...

• 54:33Speaker 19

  What you just said is false, Caitlin.

• 54:35Speaker 18

  Senator, no...

• 54:36Speaker 19

  Caitlin, facts... Hold on a second. Let me answer your statement, because what you said is factually false.

• 54:40Speaker 18

  Senator, with all due respect... With all due respect. With all due respect, you're putting the law statements that I did not say. And I want to get back to... We just laid out the facts in the opening of this show.

• 54:50Speaker 19

  You just said law enforcement has not laid out a motive. That is objectively false.

• 54:53Speaker 18

  I just spoke to the Attorney General.

• 54:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause right there. Okay, so... Ted Cruz pushing back, is CNN gonna come in, ask her to apologize on that? By the way, this is CNN, there is CNN, there is late night show. Your job is to report accordingly, right? Late night show, that's not their job, so they can come in there telling comics and jokes. Like the other day when you saw Bassem Youssef on, um, he was being pushed by Piers. And you know what he finally said after it was being pushed? Guess what Bassem Youssef finally said? I'm just a clown, I'm a comedian. You didn't see that? Yeah, I guess I'm a clown. So Bassem, can you put a Bassem Youssef and, and, uh, what do you call it? Piers Morgan, the old clown response. You know, if, if you, is that the one, Rob? I think that's the one, see? No, I don't know if it's that's the one.

• 55:39Patrick Bet-David?

  It says, "I am a clown."

• 55:40Speaker 12

  Yeah.

• 55:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. No, that's a highlight thing, that's a highlight thing. There is one that was showed that this is just that part when he says, "I'm just a clown." That's the one. "I'm a comedian." Watch this one here, go ahead. I can't hear it.

• 55:56Speaker 20

  See, it doesn't matter how critical journalists are about Israel. It will never be enough for you, because you want, you want the right. You want the right to suggest that Charlie Kirk was the subject of a hit job by Israel. You want the world to think that. That's why you said what you said, and that's why when I asked you, you went, Netanyahu says it wasn't him.

• 56:12Speaker 21

  By the, by the way, I'm not even the only one. People, here's the thing, if you continue lying to your people, right? I'll tell you what, let's, let's call, call me a conspiracy theorist, right? Call me someone who is illogical, call me whatever you want. If your government continues to lie to you consistently, this is where conspiracy theories thrive. If you're not transparent.

• 56:30Speaker 20

  Why do you want to be one of them?

• 56:31Speaker 21

  If you want to cover, no, no, no, I'm, I'm not saying I'm one of them.

• 56:34Speaker 20

  Why, why float a mad conspiracy theory about Israel?

• 56:36Speaker 21

  Because it's the internet and I'm a comedian.

• 56:38Speaker 20

  Okay, but it's not that funny though, is it?

• 56:40Patrick Bet-David?

  See, but, but that's, but, but by the way, you can pause it right there. So FYI, as much as...

• 56:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He is using that as, once he got corner, corner, corner, corner, corner, what's the last thing? I'm just a comedian. Right? Guess what? He can use that, cuz he's right. He is, he's a comedian. Right? He is a comedian. Not anymore though. Respectfully. No, no, but what I'm trying to say is, he can use that insurance card as a comedian. Guess who can't use that? CNN cannot use that. Thank you. They cannot. Caitlin Collins cannot use that. I'm gonna go to the Obama clip, then I'm gonna come to you guys for your thoughts. So I'm gonna play this Obama clip, and tell me how you feel about what's going on here. Go for it.

• 57:15Speaker 22

  Obviously, I didn't know Charlie Kirk. I was generally aware of some of his ideas.

• 57:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Generally.

• 57:25Speaker 22

  I think those ideas were wrong.

• 57:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 57:29Speaker 22

  But that doesn't negate the fact that what happened was a tragedy, and that I mourn for him and his family. He's a young man with two small children and a wife who, obviously, and a huge number of friends and supporters who cared about him. And so we have to extend grace to people during their period of mourning and shock. We can also, at the same time...

• 58:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Two people clap.

• 58:02Speaker 22

  Say that I disagree with the idea that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake. That's not, that's not me politicizing the issue. It's, it's, it's making an observation about who are we as a country. I can say that I disagree with the suggestion that my wife

• 58:39Speaker 22

  or Justice Jackson does not have adequate brain processing power.

• 58:48Speaker 22

  I can...

• 58:52Speaker 22

  I can, I can say that I disagree that Martin Luther King was awful. I can disagree with some of the broader suggestions of-

• 59:10Tom Ellsworth?

  How folded is his leg? How, where, I can't even get over that.

• 59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's see what he says here.

• 59:14Speaker 22

  Liberals and Democrats are promoting conspiracy to displace whites and replace them by ushering in-

• 59:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there, because he, the, so, so what do you, Tom, what do you think about the whole Caitlyn Collins, CNN Ted Cruz and Barack Obama?

• 59:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. First of all, Caitlyn Collins and Ted Cruz, you have to remember, every interview that is on CNN is just like an article. You read an article that's like describing a guy, they call him man in full, articles, Vanity Fair, then there's hit pieces, then there's investigation, and everything you see on CNN is one of those. That was meant to be an opportunity to, you know, bend the senator a little bit and get him upset and get him saying things and then kind of go after him. And you have to remember, it's not just Caitlyn Clark there. She is not a career journalist, she's a commentator. You have to look where she came from.

• 1:00:18Tom Ellsworth?

  She's not an investigative journalist, this is not the young, modern version of Mike Wallace or people that out, she's a commentator. She has a producer in her ear that is talking to her and is directing the flow of this. And she attempted to get him going and she was wrong. And then she doubled down and was using and tried to put herself in a position, oh, with all due respect, with all due respect, with all due respect, making her look gracious and to the point, but she was wrong and he had her and he was wrong. And Ted Cruz is not the easiest guy to interview and sometimes he gets kind of, kind of rough and kind of pushes. And so, what I see there is Caitlyn just needed to say, I misspoke, what I'm meaning is this, and restate the question.

• 1:01:03Tom Ellsworth?

  But she's going to double down because she's going to keep, the, the purpose of it was to get him upset and to get clips out of it later. That's what they're there to do. They're not there to inform us, they're not there to do anything else. That's that one. Now Obama, man, that does not look like Obama. He's speaking slow, he's being careful, and he's carefully trying to bring up all of these incendiary barbs, but it's not the old Obama. You know, we need to extend some grace, which means I think he's wrong, and so I gotta give him grace. And he just didn't look like Obama. Obama got paraded out at the end of the election, and it didn't do any good. And guess what?

• 1:01:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Obama is getting paraded out now. It's like the bat signal. It's like, we gotta get Obama. Let's go get him. And so they're reaching out to get him. You know, I'd like to know what he's thinking. I'd honestly like to know what he's thinking. And I'd love to sit down with him and say, Mr. President, Emeritus, what are you thinking there? You were very measured. You were very slow. What was the thought process? That didn't look like you. You've always been a definitive communicator. Didn't always agree with what you said, but it didn't look like you, and it was weird.

• 1:02:14Speaker 06

  Well, first of all, and I'm sorry, Pat, I've never seen somebody's legs. I'm sorry that I... They were folded so hard. I don't like... No, no, no. I'm actually trying to be funny. How it just hurts me. The leg is almost behind him. But anyway, in regard to what he's saying, Pat, for somebody that...

• 1:02:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He's actually, to be respectful, he's actually in shape, can play basketball.

• 1:02:34Speaker 06

  Oh, no, 100%.

• 1:02:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He's very active, so he's taking care of himself.

• 1:02:37Speaker 06

  Oh, no, for sure. I just, I can't sit like that.

• 1:02:39Patrick Bet-David?

  I've never seen you sit like that. But we know more, way more about basketball than him. I'll tell you that. I know more than him.

• 1:02:43Speaker 06

  No, no, no. Trust me, Pat.

• 1:02:45Patrick Bet-David?

  If we did a pick and roll right now, bro, I'm dunking that. I know basketball.

• 1:02:51Speaker 06

  So, for someone, and look at just the blatant lie, like, he's like, I didn't know him well, but he just went through a list of five things in order, in depth, about what he said, and what he feels, and his points of view. So I don't buy none of that. They know exactly who the hell Charlie Kirk was, because his voice was huge. That aside, when it comes to Caitlin Collins, it's more of a question, Pat, do you think these talking points, her attitude, is because they don't want to take accountability, because they know networks like CNN are the ones saying all this stuff, the fascist... The dog whistle, the rallying, the troops, so to speak, that do stuff like this. So is she saying it because she's getting orders from the top to say this? Because she can't admit to that.

• 1:03:35Speaker 06

  She can't say, "Well, we know that he's a leftist. We know that he's, you know, he called Trump a fascist, wrote the stuff on the, you know, we kind of take a little bit of fault for pushing this ideology and this rhetoric that might have pushed him.

• 1:03:46Adam Sosnick?

  Vinnie, you can answer your own question. Does she do her research and write her show? Or does CNN's political people from their angle?

• 1:03:52Speaker 06

  CNN, for sure.

• 1:03:53Adam Sosnick?

  There you go.

• 1:03:53Speaker 06

  But what I'm saying, though, so my question to you is, so she's just willing, and I get these people are out there, she's just willing to take a paycheck?

• 1:04:00Adam Sosnick?

  To be a commentator and be more left than she was 15 years ago.

• 1:04:04Speaker 06

  And that's what it is. Okay, and that drives me nuts because you're the networks, the MSNBCs, the CNNs, and all those freaking pundits out there that keep saying the word fascist, Hitler, Nazis, and they're scared to take accountability for what they do. Because a lot of people go, "You mean calling somebody a fascist is gonna make me do something?" Yeah, guys, we're normal. But those crazy, those Tyler, furry, transgender, whatever the hell they are, they keep hearing it, guys, they're weak. They're weak and they're captured by evil. And that dog whistle takes one person. It takes one person to go and freaking butler and get on that roof and try to shoot Trump, which I think there was another person, but that's another one, or this Tyler guy.

• 1:04:43Adam Sosnick?

  At the water tower.

• 1:04:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I think it's lazy, and I think Obama's lying about saying, "Oh, I really didn't know him." You know exactly who the hell Charlie Kirk was.

• 1:04:53Adam Sosnick?

  Look, you say this all the time, Pat. We need a synergist in this country, and we need it bad. Who's unifying people at this point? I mean, you talked about this the other day, I believe with Candace, just like, calm down. You're increasing the flames, you're increasing the temperature. Who's the synergist out there these days? Is it Obama? No. Is Trump unifying people? Hardly. Was the Pope? Definitely not. Well, maybe this new Pope, we'll see. Is LeBron? Is Tucker? You know, they say with great power comes great responsibility. It's so easy at this point to quote-unquote dunk on the other side. Gotcha! You know, we own the libs, bro. We crushed you on that one, dog.

• 1:05:38Adam Sosnick?

  All right, point, right side. Oh, we fact-check you. You're lying. Got you. That's so easy to do at this point. We're all guilty of it. I'm guilty of it. We're all guilty of it. But, you know, Pat, you know, last night I was with Marcelo and he's doing his stand-up special. After the show, for an hour, we hung out in the, the green room. We were just talking and we were talking Charlie Kirk. And we were talking politics and we did it. And we did basically a podcast, to be honest with you, the type of podcast the world needs to see. A black guy who loves Trump. He's doing a Trump impersonation. Marcelo, whose mom fled Cuba, hates communism, but they're also Hispanic Latinos. So they're like,

• 1:06:19Adam Sosnick?

  well, what's going on? You're kind of vilifying Latin, like, and, and we talked about the concept of having grace and being a unifier and being like, listen, guys, we have so much more in common that divides us. But we want to amplify the far left and the far right. And we think that everybody on the far left, if you're a Democrat, well, you're evil. You're, you eat children. You eat babies. It's like, that's the far, far, far, far left. Or if you want to vilify the far right, you're racist. It's like, dude, nobody's hanging people from trees these days. Calm down. Everyone wants to be right. Everyone wants to get their clip. Everyone wants to go viral for dunking on the other side. You know, they said, we, we interviewed the guy Rick Sanchez years ago and he, remember his famous quote?

• 1:07:01Adam Sosnick?

  If it bleeds, it leads. It's so easy to dunk on the other side, to talk trash. It's way harder to see, hey, man, I hear you, bro. I hear you. Charlie Kirk attempted to do that. Don't get it twisted. But people out there think that all he did was going around dunking on the other side. I would argue that he made his entire career by attempting and trying to find common ground. But people will clip the worst of the worst of the worst. And then you have Barack Obama. Barack Obama basically saying, you know, I disagreed with him. I personally much everything. But, you know, he doesn't deserve, uh, this ending. Really? Jamie Lee Curtis was like, I found everything he, he thought to be up horn and I disagreed with everything.

• 1:07:45Adam Sosnick?

  No, you didn't. You actually didn't. But that's an easy thing to say. We need more unifiers. We need more synergists. Let's find common ground.

• 1:07:53Speaker 06

  I, I agree. I agree with that part, Adam. But when it comes to, you know, and I get it. People want to dunk and do everything. But the left, and we showed the chart when Eric Bowling was here, it's. Eight times, six times more than it's the left because they've been indoctrinating Adam. And it's like, bro, I'm so proud of you from where you were. Look at where you're at. Look at what happened, Adam. And this, this isn't happening, this isn't happening more than it should be because Adam, the truth, the truth and common sense, they have a freaking, a brainwashing system, a psy up on these people. And Adam, and I've talked about family members that are still celebrating and now another one of hoping and waiting for Donald Trump to die.

• 1:08:35Speaker 06

  There's something mentally wrong and spiritually wrong with his people, Adam, and it's way, way, way, way more on the opposite side.

• 1:08:42Adam Sosnick?

  Well, can I say one thing? You're absolutely right. And a lot of it comes from having great leadership around you, great team around you, being willing and reasonable. I'll say this, one of the things that the right would always say, I think Ben Shapiro coined this, he goes, "Facts don't care about your feelings. Facts don't care about your feelings." Correct. The facts don't. But people actually do have feelings. Good luck telling your girlfriend that you're fighting with, "Babe, don't worry about it. It's not that big of a deal." That argument will never end. Babe, it's not that big of a deal. What's with your feelings and your emotions? That's all they're thinking about. So to dismiss people's feelings and emotions is dismissing their actual reality.

• 1:09:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but listen, respectfully, Barack Obama was so divisive in America.

• 1:09:30Adam Sosnick?

  I fully agree.

• 1:09:31Patrick Bet-David?

  He divided America in ways that we hadn't had for many years. Every time something happened, he would use a race card. So did his wife. So people got sick of it. It was just getting too much. And every time he was president, every problem ever happened, if you remember the one phrase used all the time, "I inherited this administration." We had to hear that for five, six years. People got tired of it. Having said that, where we are today, you're not going to get rid of people that are going to be doing their loud podcasting stuff and doing all that stuff. There's a massive business model for that. People are going to follow that. It's not going to go away. The reality of it is whoever chooses to play the synergistic position are typically the most hated people. Whoever chooses to play the synergistic position is typically the most hated people.

• 1:10:15Patrick Bet-David?

  There's a reason why we don't take sponsorship money on PBD Podcast specifically. You realize? Every time people are like, "I can't believe you're selling merch." Yes, because we don't take sponsorship money. "I can't believe we don't manage." Yes, because we don't take sponsorship money. "I can't believe we don't consult." Yes, because we don't take sponsorship money. What's your point? We don't have to answer to anybody because they told us what to do here. And we have control of our companies. We own all our companies. We're majority shareholders of all our companies. We just made a massive announcement last week at the vault, which I'll make the announcement here to all of you guys here soon because I gotta go shoot the video with them and then I'll make the announcement to you. But everybody's playing a different role. No one's here trying to judge anybody else.

• 1:10:59Patrick Bet-David?

  All I'm trying to say is as we're going through this next phase and all these guys are coming out of nowhere acting like they were unifiers. Obama was not a unifier. The last time Obama was a unifier, when he gave his DNC speech in 04. The moment he became the president, he started dividing America in a massive way. And we have to hear the rhetoric every day on how he got a Nobel Prize for doing what? Nothing. Nine months after being president. So, yeah, there's nothing there for us to sit there and recognize. By the way, Byron Donalds and Rashid Tlaib, I don't know if you guys saw this one or not. Did you see the back and forth between the two?

• 1:11:32Adam Sosnick?

  Rashid Tlaib, she's unbearable.

• 1:11:34Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to play two clips here. I'll go with this one and then I'll go over to our best friend clip. I'll show it to you guys. But this is Rashid Tlaib and Byron Donalds going at it nonstop. Go ahead. By the way, did they misspell her name or am I saying it wrong?

• 1:11:48Adam Sosnick?

  Rashid Tlaib, but it's spelled with some...

• 1:11:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, go ahead, Rob.

• 1:11:51Adam Sosnick?

  Weird conjunctions.

• 1:11:52Speaker 23

  It's really important. We need to stand up against this fascist takeover. That's not a bad word. It's a fact. And here in DC and across the country, it is so incredibly important, Mr. Chair, that this committee does not allow rhetoric that defames or paints Washington D.C. in a way that you all haven't really truly seen. You're just reading it or something off of some...

• 1:12:19Speaker 24

  Will the gentlelady yield to a question?

• 1:12:21Speaker 23

  Yeah, I think it's really important.

• 1:12:23Speaker 24

  Will the gentlelady yield?

• 1:12:24Speaker 23

  No, I don't yield. I don't even have time. I can tell you... Your time has expired, Mr. Chair. But you all live here and... You're not telling people the beautiful parts that you do see in our nation's capital. And no, no, no, it's just wrong.

• 1:12:37Speaker 24

  Chairman, I think it's insane that the gentleman doesn't have an argument, but she's gonna refer to me and some of my colleagues. We were from the Third Reich. This is insane. It's insane. It's insane. Do I look like a member of the Third Reich to you, Ms. Talib? Is that what I look like to you?

• 1:12:54Speaker 23

  You're the one taking your phone card.

• 1:12:56Speaker 24

  Is that what you think? Is that what you think?

• 1:12:57Speaker 06

  Oh, God.

• 1:12:58Speaker 24

  Is that what you think? I think it's radical and I think it's insane, and I'll respect everything that you say, but to say something like that to myself and a lot of my colleagues is way out of line. It's way out of line. It's way out of line. Regular order, Mr. Talib. Way out of line. That's okay, but it's okay, right?

• 1:13:14Speaker 23

  That is not how it goes.

• 1:13:14Speaker 24

  It's okay, right?

• 1:13:15Speaker 23

  You hold yourself accountable before you talk about watching these things.

• 1:13:18Speaker 24

  Hold myself accountable? Hold your own self accountable, how about that? Hold your own self accountable, how about that?

• 1:13:24Speaker 06

  Imagine being married to her. Good love. Oh, my God.

• 1:13:26Adam Sosnick?

  You're dealing with an emotional, angry woman.

• 1:13:30Patrick Bet-David?

  You're watching that exchange between the two, right? Going back and forth. And by the way, kudos to Byron Donalds, man. He stayed poised the entire time. Respect to him for what he said, right? Staying poised the entire time. At the same time, there's another incident of, uh, uh, uh, who is the one in the church, Rob?

• 1:13:49Speaker 06

  Ilhan Omar.

• 1:13:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Ilhan Omar's in church saying, in, in, in Dearborn. Go, go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Play this clip on what, what this lady at this church is saying, Ilhan Omar. And then Trump comes out and tweets about it. Um, Trump comes out and tweets about it, and then next thing you know, you're like, wait a minute, what just happened to you? Is she talking to a Christian church, telling them what to do?

• 1:14:13Speaker 06

  Oh, my God.

• 1:14:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch this clip here, folks. Okay, so this is a Christian church, Ilhan Omar, and look what she has to say.

• 1:14:20Speaker 25

  I do believe those of you who are interested in rewriting this hateful man's history are full of shit.

• 1:14:29Speaker 06

  By the way, how shame on every single person in that Christian church that let a Muslim freaking woman go in there and cuss on the pulpit where the altar is. Are you, what?

• 1:14:44Patrick Bet-David?

  And clap.

• 1:14:45Speaker 06

  What the hell did I just see?

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  And this is what Trump tweeted about. Oh my god.

• 1:14:50Tom Ellsworth?

  What kind of a church is that? What gathering is that?

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Any church. Let's actually look into what church it is. I'd want to know what church it is.

• 1:14:57Tom Ellsworth?

  Something's, something ain't calibrated about that audience.

• 1:14:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, let's find out what church it is.

• 1:15:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh my god.

• 1:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  But here's, here's President Trump on Ilhan Omar. And by the way, is this the same thing that he tweeted out? Because it's, it's.

• 1:15:10Speaker 12

  I'll find the tweet. This is him on Air Force One, I believe, last night, talking about Ilhan Omar being censored.

• 1:15:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:15:17Speaker 12

  Censored.

• 1:15:18Speaker 08

  I think she should be impeached. I think she's terrible. Is she originally from Somalia?

• 1:15:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:15:25Speaker 08

  So, how are they doing? How's their government? Do they have a president? Do they have a council? Do they have anything? Do they have police? I love these people. They come from a place with nothing. Nothing. No anything. And then they tell us how to run our country. Now, I think she, if she got, if she got censored, that's great. If she got impeached, that's even better. They impeached me twice for nothing. And they impeached me knowing the Republicans are on my side. So they knew it was just, but they impeached me. But she should be impeached and it should happen fast.

• 1:16:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so he says that, but on the tweet, he gets a little bit deeper. Okay, on, on, on the Truth Social that he posted. And he gets personal on what he says on the Truth. Did you see this one or no?

• 1:16:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Very descriptive about Somalia.

• 1:16:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Very, very descriptive. So I'll put this, I'll, I'll read this to you, specifically the last two paragraphs, two sentences. So, he goes on about Somalia, what's the lack of government control, poverty, hunger, resurgent terrorism, piracy, decades of civil war corruption, pervasive violence, 70% of population lives in extreme poverty and widespread food insecurity. Somalia is consistently ranked among the world's most corrupt countries, including bribery, embezzlement, and dysfunctional government. All of this, and Ilhan Omar tells us how to run America. P.S. Wasn't she the one that married her brother in order to gain citizenship?

• 1:16:43Tom Ellsworth?

  Bingo.

• 1:16:43Patrick Bet-David?

  What scum we have in our country telling us what to do and how to do it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Make America great again. I mean, when you, when you have people like that, that are in office, that hate what we stand for, and their religion, what they believe in. I've made it very clear on who I believe needs to be involved in politics to become Congress, Senate, running cities, states. You're in a very slippery slope. And then, by the way, in this message she's given in Somalia, she's talking about she wants to... Did you see this one, Vini? She's saying she wants to fix everything here and she wants to go back to Somalia. Did you see this? No. Okay, watch this one here.

• 1:17:26Patrick Bet-David?

  This is in her language and being translated. Go for it.

• 1:17:30Speaker 26

  In Jiddat Keni and what the Sanu, Aniwaan ahae gaber mrekenka laga dor tay or in Congresska mrekenka kujurtu. Lakin wahan ahae gaber Somaliyat, gaber idin ku jinsi'ah, gaber idin ku af'ah, gaber idin ku diin'ah. Or aha deqaf yodo da'yar, wadankedi lekhe'ewili hisa uqabto in malin wadankedi ey kuno la'to.

• 1:17:58Patrick Bet-David?

  And go.

• 1:17:59Speaker 26

  Odat kedi wha'ila wada'aktu.

• 1:18:03Speaker 26

  Merka alhamdulillah wahan re'ajina ya'ani'i ilmehe'iga in an hadde kubar bariyo and yegan ilmeho'da ey kubar bariyan luki ani'iga an kusokoray. Taasana haddi ey surte'gal ey suwa hadde shakab badan inan wada qabana haddu ilahi ira'ado. Or an katlikna and luki an lulu barwa xadi'isadatka or dan ey dre'mi karan o ey arki karan o ey kwa wada fa'i'isankaran.

• 1:18:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't we accelerate the timeline? Go.

• 1:18:32Speaker 06

  Exactly.

• 1:18:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Why don't we accelerate?

• 1:18:33Speaker 06

  Because she wants to destroy. Pat, she wants to infiltrate and destroy as much as she can here before she leaves.

• 1:18:39Patrick Bet-David?

  So this is a part of the Constitution that I'm uncomfortable with. This part, right here. Because we're not... Just watch what's going on with UK. What do you think's gonna happen here? The lady that just got promoted, she's the first female parliament, Muslim, uh, female parliament, I believe. In uh uh uh UK and she just became the first female chancellor uh something uh uh her job. Shabana, something like that, Mohammed, I I think that's her name, Rob, I'm I'm saying, I'm butchering the name, but. Right here. Uh, what's her name, Shabana? Yeah, I actually got it right. Mahmud. Shabana Mahmud. Okay, and have you heard her speech? What she says? No. Have you heard her speech? No.

• 1:19:18Patrick Bet-David?

  She says, everything she does in her life, she's devoted and she does it based on a religion of Muslim. Everything that she does, that comes first. Everything that comes first. And guess what? You have to take a word for it. That's where she's at, and you know what her job is now? Let me tell you what her job is now, she now just became, what was her job that she got, Rob? Uh, if you go back on uh where you were at a minute ago, you were on her Wikipedia. Um. She is the House Secretary for the. She's the House Secretary, but it's it's deeper than that, she actually is dealing with, go a little bit lower. Immigration and access. Immigration, yeah, she deals with immigration. It's what she's doing now. So, the the, take a perfect case study.

• 1:20:03Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, when I'm coming up in business, I'm watching all the other guys that screwed up their insurance businesses. And I'd watch what they would do wrong. And I would watch who did what right. And they're like, okay, I'm gonna do this right, that guy didn't do it right. Yeah, here she is, go ahead and play that clip, Rob, I think this is the one.

• 1:20:18Speaker 27

  Um, Islam, my own religion, um. Like a lot of practicing Muslims, my faith is the most important thing in my life. It is the absolute driver of everything that I do. Um, I feel a very strong um calling of my own conscience and my conscience calls me to God.

• 1:20:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Guess what? I respect it. Good for her, stay, keep it there. Good, no, that's right, but, guess what? We have that in America now. And we can do something about it. If we don't, someone has got to have the audacity to make some kind of a decision. If you're here in our politics and you hate America, what are you doing here?

• 1:20:59Speaker 06

  I agree.

• 1:21:00Patrick Bet-David?

  It's very simple. What are you doing here? If you're trying to be divisive and destroy America, get out of politics. We have access to information. Go back to your country. Do whatever else you want to do. I'm not supportive of what they're doing to divide America right now. Yeah, you're talking about this is what was the line that she used? What was the line that she was right there? Dearborn Muslim made mayor unleashes on Christian residents at city meeting. You're not welcome here. What do you mean you're not welcome here, Rob? Do you have that clip? Yes. Of you're not welcome here? What do you mean you're not welcome here, bro? Here in Dearborn. You're not welcome here. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:21:34Speaker 28

  I mean Hezbollah, um, you know, bombed the embassy in Beirut and including many Americans. So I just feel it's quite inappropriate.

• 1:21:45Speaker 03

  You're an Islamophobe. And although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not welcome here.

• 1:21:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:21:51Speaker 03

  And the day you move out of the city will be the day that I launch a parade celebrating the fact that you moved out of the city.

• 1:21:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a mayor.

• 1:21:56Speaker 03

  Because you are not somebody who believes in coexistence.

• 1:21:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow. That's how bold they're getting.

• 1:22:01Speaker 06

  It's it's it has begun.

• 1:22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  And they're gonna get bolder and bolder and bolder. This is not gonna slow down.

• 1:22:07Speaker 06

  Nope.

• 1:22:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Anytime soon, just so you know that.

• 1:22:09Speaker 06

  And and just to tell us about Ilhan Omar, speaking of her, and by the way, because she wants to go Somalia and she has. By the way, did you know that she came into Congress in 2019 with a net worth of negative $45,000? And by 2023, she only reported about 51,000. Now, on her latest disclosure from May 2025, she's sitting up on $30 million. That's a 66,000% jump in six years. Put that to the side.

• 1:22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that a disclosure?

• 1:22:37Speaker 06

  That's a that's a disclosure.

• 1:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, is that is, can you fact check that? She's what, $30 million?

• 1:22:42Adam Sosnick?

  Ilhan Omar. Ilhan Omar is not worth thirty million dollars. They're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna, let's see what's. How is she worth thirty million dollars? You tell me. As a representative from Little Mungadicho, Minneapolis, Minnesota.

• 1:22:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Including husband is estimated to be six to thirty million dollars.

• 1:22:55Adam Sosnick?

  That's a big range.

• 1:22:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Much of the value comes from business associated with her husband, a winery, Estu Wines, valued between one to five million dollars and venture capital from Rose Capital.

• 1:23:03Adam Sosnick?

  She's got money.

• 1:23:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Valued at five to twenty-five million dollars, which she said Omar's office has pushed back on claims that a personal net worth is in the millions, pointing out that the disclosed valuations are share and partner business assets, not necessarily what she owns. She has said that she still has student loan debts and given arrangements of her household. Rob, can you type in who her husband is?

• 1:23:21Adam Sosnick?

  Is it that guy that she married that allegedly? Sounds like, allegedly, sounds like he's a capitalist, ironically. Sounds like he's doing a great job.

• 1:23:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go see who the husband is? Tap in Tim Minet, a great name.

• 1:23:36Adam Sosnick?

  Let me see if I understand this. A Muslim's husband owns a winery? I, wait, I thought she married her. Oh. Checking my notes, that's against the rules. And a sausage factory, what is going on here?

• 1:23:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little bit lower.

• 1:23:49Adam Sosnick?

  But wait, what about the guy that, the married guy, I thought he was Somali.

• 1:23:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Omar's, okay, Ilhan Omar, so I want to know about her husband, that's what I want to know. Okay, what is her husband? Okay, what does Tim Minet do? Go a little bit lower. Uh, Minet is a political consultant, fundraiser, politician, according to his firm upside, he has raised over a hundred million dollars, a member of organizations, also worked with Angela Jolie's Global Action for Children's Foundation, on top of that, he's alumni of University of Ka'Zulu in Natala in South Africa and said to have deep connections in both Washington DC and Hollywood.

• 1:24:17Adam Sosnick?

  And then.

• 1:24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  His legal troubles, go a little bit lower. In June, Minnesota Reform reported that Minet and his business partner was, were accused of fraud and breach of contract in relation to their wine and marijuana business ventures.

• 1:24:27Adam Sosnick?

  Marijuana, yes, fraud never happens there.

• 1:24:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Enterprises since collapsed. The pair are facing multiple losses, go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower, go a little bit lower.

• 1:24:35Adam Sosnick?

  That's as far as it goes.

• 1:24:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 1:24:37Speaker 06

  Alright.

• 1:24:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so.

• 1:24:39Adam Sosnick?

  Tom makes a great point.

• 1:24:40Speaker 06

  Tom makes a great point. You're a Muslim girl, you're all about your faith and everything, but you know what? She shared a video, and Rob, I, I sent you the tweet.

• 1:24:46Adam Sosnick?

  Smoking and drinking?

• 1:24:47Speaker 06

  She, this, this is who she is, and this is what her soul is. She shared a video that says Charlie Kirk was reprehensible human being, a sarcastic terrorist, and that his dying words, he was spewing racist dog whistles. Charlie Kirk was Frankenstein, and his monster shot him through the neck.

• 1:25:04Adam Sosnick?

  This is what she said?

• 1:25:06Speaker 06

  She said, and in other words, Charlie had it coming, okay? And that's, the people are losing their jobs, left and right, from Kimmel to everybody, and yet this is a America-hating congresswoman, and she's promoting that type of crap, and nothing happens to her?

• 1:25:22Adam Sosnick?

  Well, for her to lose her job, she's gotta get unelected, so enough citizens have to be in there.

• 1:25:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, not in her, not in her district.

• 1:25:29Adam Sosnick?

  That's exactly right.

• 1:25:30Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's, they call it like Little Mogadishu. Where she, what does that, what does that tell you about what she is? But guess what? They want this freaking, they want the smoke, they're gonna get it, trust me. It ain't gonna be good for them.

• 1:25:40Adam Sosnick?

  Not all immigrants are created equal. Like, if you go down into Miami, uh, down to Little Havana, you're talking about Little Mogadishu, Somalia, this is the most hardcore Republican, anti-Fidel Castro, anti-communist, anti-socialist. Like, ask anyone from Latin America who immigrated here, they're like, "Communism? What is that, man? No, we don't play this game." They love America so much, they, they love Ronald Reagan so much. Half of them don't speak English, but, ha, ha, ha, I love America, man. I love it.

• 1:26:11Tom Ellsworth?

  The really old ones will tell you it was Nixon that opened the doors and gave them their freedom. The really old ones.

• 1:26:16Adam Sosnick?

  I don't know really the old ones, Tom, but the, the reality is, they love America. The problem is, a lot of these, uh, people that come here, especially in these parts of towns, as Minnesota, these blue liberal cities, they end up hating America. And that's the biggest problem that people have, is like we say, "Forget about all the legal stuff, forget just the, the feelings of, we take you into our country, we give you access to our world, and then you just wanna shit all over America? We have a major problem with that."

• 1:26:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, okay, let's get to the next story here. Uh, on what we have, uh, I'm gonna go to a quick business story here. Fed approves quarter point interest rate cuts and sees two more coming this year. Uh, Rob, if you want to pull that up, I do know you have a clip on that, so page 18. Uh, Federal Reserve approves a quarter point rate cut lower in the benchmark overnight. Uh, lending rate to a range of four to four and a quarter with an 11 to one vote. Where newly installed Governor Steve, uh, Stephen Maron dissented advocating for half a point cut. The Federal Open Market Committee signaled two more cuts before the end of the year is indicated. Uh, in their dot plot, uh, through nine of 19 participants expected only one more reduction. While 10 saw two potentially at October and December meetings.

• 1:27:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's Jerome Powell, go for it, Rob.

• 1:27:31Speaker 29

  Good afternoon. My colleagues and I remain squarely focused on achieving our dual mandate goals of maximum employment and stable prices for the benefit of the American people. While the unemployment rate remains low, it has edged up. Job gains have slowed and downside risks to employment have risen. At the same time, inflation has risen recently and remains somewhat elevated. In support of our goals and in light of the shift in the balance of risks. Today, the Federal Open Market Committee decided to lower our policy interest rate by a quarter percentage point. We also decided to continue to reduce our securities holdings.

• 1:28:10Speaker 29

  I'll have more to say about monetary policy after briefly reviewing economic developments. Recent indicators suggest that growth of economic activity has moderated. GDP growth, GDP rose at a pace of around one and a half percent in the first half of the year. Nice. Down from 2.5% last year. The moderation in growth largely reflects a slowdown in consumer spending. In contrast, business investment in equipment and intangibles has picked up from last year's pace. Activity in the housing sector remains weak.

• 1:28:47Speaker 29

  In our summary of economic projections, the median participant projects GDP to rise 1.6% this year and 1.8% next year, a touch stronger than projected in June.

• 1:28:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, pause right there. Tom, thoughts?

• 1:29:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is what we wanted to have happen for a couple of reasons. And there's a balance here. First of all, the good side. The good side is we just made debt for businesses a little less expensive. But more importantly, we made our debt, the national debt, less expensive because we pay interest on it based on this. So that's significant. And that's really what Trump's been pushing about. Because Trump's budget includes payments on the national debt, and there's interest on that. Benny, that's what we have to pay, right? We have all this debt, we have all this interest, well, we got to pay somebody. And it's all the people that own that debt. Japan owns a bunch of debt, you know, China's owns debt. All of those get the interest rate. When the interest rate's lower, it costs us less to pay on our debt. Now, our debt should be, we should be working to pay that

• 1:29:45Tom Ellsworth?

  off somehow someday. But that's point one. Point two is he said business investment was ticking up. And so a quarter point benefit in cost of lending to businesses helps him. Because when business ticks up and the investment ticks up, job growth usually follows. And right now, job growth is sluggish. It is real. The job market is cooling a little bit. And that's also a reason to drop the rate, so that businesses can invest and hopefully you get the jobs back. Now, there's a trickle-down effect where the bond market gets affected by this. And the bond market is what helps determine mortgage rates. And right now,

• 1:30:27Tom Ellsworth?

  mortgage rates were like 6 and 3/8. They went down a little bit. And now they've ticked back up to like 6 and 1/2. So, for all of us, if you have a job and you like that job, keep that job. If you're looking around for a job, maybe be less picky and maybe move more flexible for yourself. And if you're running a small business, you should... Check your line of credit and check things because you might be able to get a little less expensive debt and the US budget is going to benefit. And then, Rob, do you have that? I've got the thing on the CME. And real quick, when they talk about what's coming, this is now, we're at the, we've reached the realm of basically near certainty. Yeah,

• 1:31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  scroll right down there and click on October. It's like a 91% chance we're getting another cut in October. And these guys are economists are like right, and then go to December 10th, right next to it, the little white box, up higher, higher left, up, higher, higher left, there you go. And December 82%. So it's about a quarter percent in October, quarter percent in December. And so we want the, the job market to pick up a little bit because it's cooling.

• 1:31:35Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, I looked at the last few times we increased, we lowered rates, okay? September 2025, quarter of a point, previous. December 2024, quarter. November 2024, quarter. September 2024, half. Previous to that, there was no rate cuts till March of 2020. So in the last 12 months, there's been exactly four rate cuts. Roughly 1.25 is what they've done. So we'll see what this is going to do. Finally, is there two more going into the end of the year? There's a couple moves that happened. Intel and Nvidia, Nvidia announced that they're going to be investing $5 billion into stake of Intel, joining the US government

• 1:32:18Patrick Bet-David?

  as a major shareholder. This caused Intel to surge 18% after the money was put into it. I'm a little bit more comfortable with this happening of a company investing into another company than the government investing into another company. Rob, what is this clip here?

• 1:32:32Tom Ellsworth?

  This is just from Reuters covering the Intel and Nvidia deal.

• 1:32:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Go for it.

• 1:32:39Speaker 30

  Nvidia is to invest $5 billion in Intel, throwing its heft behind the struggling US chipmaker. It comes just weeks after the White House engineered an extraordinary deal for the US government to take a massive stake in the company. The deal will make Nvidia one of Intel's largest shareholders, giving it roughly 4% or more of the company after new shares are issued to complete the deal. Nvidia's support represents a new opening for Intel after years of turnaround efforts. It also triggered a 24% jump in the chipmaker's shares in pre-market action.

• 1:33:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you pause it right there? Rob, can you also look up what Larry Ellison's net worth is right now? Can you pull that up while this is going on? When Rob's pulling that up, I think his number right now, all of a sudden, went from cup 100 billion to 450 billion dollars. Now it's at 362 billion dollars. And Elon's at 480. For a minute, for a day, he was ahead of Elon. And Elon is now at 480. I think Elon put a billion dollars and bought more Tesla shares. That caused the stock to go up. And you're seeing some of the stuff that's happening. Tom, your thoughts here with... I don't like the word that she used, but I want you to clarify. She said, "The struggling chipmaker." Nvidia put $5 billion in the struggling chipmaker Intel. Thoughts?

• 1:33:56Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Intel's had some market share issues and it's had some slowdowns in certain sectors. And it missed the boat. It's one of the premier chipmakers in the world, but who's building all the AI chips? It's got the big market share, Nvidia. And so, but what Intel has is a lot of manufacturing capability. You were seeing that B-roll there. A lot of it. I like the fact... You know what this reminds me of, Pat? This is something you and I both know about, is when Microsoft helped Apple

• 1:34:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Yep.

• 1:34:26Tom Ellsworth?

  and reached across the industry to a competitor to help them. And Microsoft felt that Apple and its computers and what it was doing primarily for ad agencies and creatives at that time was important and they did it. And the Apple people was like, "We're taking money from Satan," because they hated Bill Gates and Microsoft. But in the end, it helped everyone. And I'm hoping that this is what Jensen Huang is thinking about. What I also hope is that the US government backs off. I don't want and don't like the US government owning part of any company. Cause that means laws in Washington, uh, things that are happening in Washington. Anything that's going on in Washington that scares me to death.

• 1:35:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Because I don't want Washington to have a vested interest. Oh, do we make this regulation? Do we make this law? Hang on, hang on, we own 5% of that one, maybe go easy on it. I mean, we've been screaming about Nancy Pelosi and her Nancy Pelosi's magic stock fund. That's genius. It's not genius. It's based on regulation. So I, I don't like that part. But I like that someone is reaching across the aisle. Hey, you're making chips for servers. You're making chips for laptops. You're making chips for, you know, desktop PCs. We make all these AI chips. You know what? I'm going to invest in you and I'm going to help reach across. I think that's a good thing. And I'm hoping, I'd like to see, Pat, the US government not do the deal it's talking about. I'd like to leave it in the, in the market between Nvidia and Intel.

• 1:35:53Adam Sosnick?

  Adam. Well, follow the money. I think that's what we're saying regarding interest rates. If I could just, uh, so the interest rates, uh, looks like Trump is sort of getting his way with Jerome Powell. We'll see if he fires him. I know he's been talking a lot about that, but I remember the first time that I heard about bips. You know about bips, Vinny? No. Okay, let me biff you up right quick. So I used to go around when I was, when I first got into insurance and finance and I was like pretending, you know, fake it till you make it. I was like, yeah, the bips, bro. You gotta, the 25 bips. They go, do you know what a bip is? I was like, yeah, it's a, the bip. They go, it stands for basis points. I was like, yeah, I knew that. I didn't know that. But we just cut it 25 bips, which is point two five.

• 1:36:36Adam Sosnick?

  So they're talking about maybe by the end of the year, getting it down to 75 or 100 bips basis points. Let me explain, let me explain this to you, Vinny. It'd be the equivalent of this, 25 basis points. Yo, it's the morning, you know what? Give me a little shot of espresso, wake me up a little bit. All right, cool. I'm ready to tackle the day. Little energy boost. Great. That's what just happened in the economy. You throw a hundred bips in in the next three, six months, bro, that's like chugging three Red Bulls, a Celsius, shot of tequila. It's like, let's go, Tom, baby. Uh, you, you have the, you have the risk of overheating.

• 1:37:07Speaker 06

  I had actually.

• 1:37:08Adam Sosnick?

  He had a bit. I had a hundred bips this morning, PBD. Pipped in the Uber. But here's my point.

• 1:37:12Speaker 06

  More like a cap.

• 1:37:12Adam Sosnick?

  You've talked about multiple times, actually don't want them to cut the rates too much. Don't cut it too much. Right now, the current bips, the current Fed fund rate.

• 1:37:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Too much too quick, yeah.

• 1:37:23Adam Sosnick?

  Is that what's happening, you think? Well, he hasn't done it yet, not yet. But if they do this, the current Fed fund rate is basically four and a quarter right now. Do you know the historical average is basically where we're at right now, between four and 5%? Little food for thought here. In the last 15, 20 years, it's been 0%, 0% twice. Free money, take the money. Forever you get a car, you get a car, Oprah, Oprah, Oprah. It was right after the Great Recession, 2008, and right during COVID in 2020, 000. When we were born in the early 80s, let's say, late 70s for some of you. Do you know what the Fed fund rate was at that point? 19%.

• 1:38:02Speaker 06

  Geez.

• 1:38:03Adam Sosnick?

  Those are credit card rates.

• 1:38:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:38:05Adam Sosnick?

  That you're using.

• 1:38:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:38:07Adam Sosnick?

  For a mortgage, for a car, like insane. So right now, I think as much as Trump is like laying the pressure in on Jerome Powell, I think we're in a good spot.

• 1:38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:17Adam Sosnick?

  He said there's a dual mandate, inflation and unemployment and keeping people employed. We're at a decent time right now. Let's not screw this up by taking more shots at tequila and Red Bull.

• 1:38:26Speaker 06

  I bought two houses yesterday, so.

• 1:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:29Adam Sosnick?

  So the strippers in 2008.

• 1:38:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So, you know, rates to Nvidia, now we have to put the clips together because Adam doesn't understand separating the two clips, but I appreciate that, Adam. So, guys, going, going, going back to it. So with, Rob, you're gonna have to find a way to make that one work, but Adam's very helpful. But you're right about the interest rates. When you lower the interest rates too much, uh, what ends up happening is it helps guys like me out. My concern is, uh, we, we not, right now need the other guys to catch up. And it's too much of a, uh, gap that, uh, uh, we can go, lowering is good, but too much too quick. Again, serves, serves me well. It doesn't affect me at all, but it hurts some of the other guys that are trying to buy a house. It's just gonna help me out more. Money's gonna be cheaper for me.

• 1:39:13Adam Sosnick?

  I want to say why?

• 1:39:13Patrick Bet-David?

  If money's cheaper, I can go get a few hundred million dollars, go buy up a bunch of companies. If money's cheaper, there's a bunch of things I can do. I mean, we're about to, the market's about to find out what we're gonna do the next 12, 24, 36 months, but, you know, uh, uh, it's, it's a, it's a different game to be played.

• 1:39:27Adam Sosnick?

  Who does this hurt, you think?

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  If the rates go lower, then if I'm selling my house at a million, now I'm gonna sell it for 1.1 million. Now the person that's trying to get the money, he can't qualify for 1.1 million. And, you know, that, that's a, that's a bigger price. But, uh, we'll see. We'll see what's gonna happen here. We'll see what's gonna happen here. Let me get to the next story here. Next story here is, um, Bill Ackman, uh, uh, shares Charlie Kirk text to dispel Candace's claims of, what is it, Israel blackmail? What? So is this the one? This is what, uh, Bill Ackman released? And what is this showing, Rob? This is showing communication between?

• 1:40:03Speaker 12

  Apparently, when they had the Hamptons dinner, this is the text message, uh, before or after that dinner.

• 1:40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Which one is him? Is he the green or is he the white?

• 1:40:11Adam Sosnick?

  He is in the green, sir.

• 1:40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So how are you? Is that Charlie Kirk? So green, green?

• 1:40:16Adam Sosnick?

  Green is Bill Ackman, I believe.

• 1:40:17Patrick Bet-David?

  How are you? I'm doing great. Really enjoyed our time together last week. Thank you again for doing that. It was great. And great to get to know you better. We should do dinner sometime with the ladies. Absolutely. That would be awesome. Let me know when you, will be, okay, so the green is, uh, Bill Ackman. I mean, New York City.

• 1:40:30Adam Sosnick?

  Cause these are his texts.

• 1:40:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. Thank you. I will. We are there a few times this fall. Great. Just let me know. Okay, so this is, this is showing that what? That they were texting each other?

• 1:40:41Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Why is he showing this? What's the purpose of showing this text?

• 1:40:44Adam Sosnick?

  To prove their relationship, I would assume?

• 1:40:46Speaker 12

  Well, because the narrative that was being put out was that it was a contentious meeting in the Hamptons. Charlie Kirk left and he was feeling pressured, uh, to adapt a more pro-Israel stance by Bill Ackman, Seth Dillon, and the people at that meeting. This text shows that they had a cordial dinner, apparently.

• 1:41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, so the claim is that Charlie was being pressured to give money? And some people go, are going as far as saying this is a way of claiming that maybe Israel had their hands on the assassination with Charlie? Is that kinda where they're going with this?

• 1:41:15Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, the insinuation is Israel was mad.

• 1:41:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it. So play this clip, and this is Netanyahu responding to it?

• 1:41:21Speaker 12

  Uh, this is Netanyahu just denouncing any type of ties for Israel to Charlie Kirk's assassination.

• 1:41:27Speaker 31

  Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, said that the bigger the lie, the faster it will spread. Well, somebody has fabricated a monstrous big lie, that Israel had something to do with Charlie Kirk's horrific murder. This is insane. It is false. It is outrageous. Charlie Kirk was a giant, a once-in-a-century talent, who defended freedom, defended America, defended our common Judeo-Christian civilization. Charlie loved Israel. He loved the Jewish people. He told me so in a letter that he sent me just a few months ago. "One of my greatest joys as a Christian," he said, "is advocating for Israel

• 1:42:09Speaker 31

  and forming alliances with Jews to protect Judeo-Christian civilization." He encouraged me to make the case directly to the American people about how vital Israel is to US national security. He told me, "The Holy Land is so important to my life, it pains me to see support for Israel slip away." Now, if Charlie disagreed with a policy of mine or a decision here and there, not only did I not mind, I welcomed it. This is the essence of Charlie. This is the essence of a free country. It's exactly what Charlie stood for. He said he welcomed what? What did he welcome? And I knew that the suggestions always came from the heart. Like the back and forth. If Charlie disagreed with him, he was cool with it. From his love for Israel and from his love for the Jewish people. A few weeks before his death, I spoke to Charlie.

• 1:42:54Speaker 31

  I invited him to visit Israel again. And sadly, that won't happen. Now, some are peddling these disgusting rumors, perhaps out of obsession, perhaps with Qatari funding. What I do know is this: Charlie Kirk was a great man, and a great man deserves honor, not lies. Can pause it right there. Vani, thoughts?

• 1:43:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, again, I'll go back to it. I want receipts. I want proof. If you're out there saying that Charlie, God rest his soul, was assassinated by Israel, show it to me. And guess what? I'll be with you. Show me the proof. But right now, what we're seeing is some psycho, brainwashed, soulless kid who's lost, whose boyfriend, and by the way, the investigation still has to finish. But everything that we're seeing, the gun, the jumping on the roof, the story, the backstory, the fascist, the this, the that, that's what I'm seeing. And for people that are out there pushing this narrative, and again, I am, I criticize everybody when they do wrong, from our government to Israel to Bibi, you, you name it.

• 1:44:00Speaker 06

  But I think it takes away from the actual people that are supposed to be investigating this situation. For instance, and I'm happy that we brought this up, Rob, could you show the camera situation that I'm talking about? So for all the people, Pat, I even want, if Candace hears this, I want Candace, guys, there's a critical piece of evidence, okay, that I want to show everybody. And again, allegedly, I don't know if that's the guy, Pat, that they show. I don't know if he works for Turning Point. I don't know if he's Charlie's security. But when there's an assassination attempt, okay? And this guy, and I'll show you the thing, jumps up there and takes the camera, which is a prime piece of evidence. Number one, he takes it down, this, this is the guy, Charlie was literally just rushed off, off camera.

• 1:44:43Speaker 06

  And then, Rob, can you go to the next one? And again, this guy looks like he's taking the camera footage, or the, or the hard drive, or what is it called, Pat, when you put the?

• 1:44:51Speaker 12

  SD card.

• 1:44:52Speaker 06

  What, for everybody out there talking Israel, for one second, shut the hell up. Find out why that guy tampered with the freaking crime scene. No cops put any cover around it. Look at that.

• 1:45:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you go under the comment section, Rob? Typically, these types of things get addressed very quickly. Just a week ago, I said, the man in the back, who was that guy? And it ended up being a pastor. And I said, who was the security? And it ended up being another person. Just go under the comment section of that clip. Whichever one has the most likes and views, go to the bottom of that. So that one doesn't have a lot. Go to one that has a lot. Let's see that one.

• 1:45:27Speaker 12

  So I guess he looped them all in in one post, so I'm not able to go by?

• 1:45:31Patrick Bet-David?

  So go to one of these, and let's see if there's anybody that's actually commenting on it. Okay, can you-

• 1:45:37Speaker 06

  That was somebody in the crowd-

• 1:45:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, can you, while he's doing that, just look at the credibility of that and come back to it?

• 1:45:42Speaker 06

  Cause my thing is this, Pat, it's, it's, I, cause I saw footage after it happened. That camera was immediately taken down, immediately taken down. I don't know who this person is, I don't know who it was, there should be tape, there should be blocked off because that is a crime scene.

• 1:45:57Patrick Bet-David?

  If I'm thinking we're at an event, one of my guys comes and takes it, yeah, I want you to take that camera and go back with it. We want you to take that camera, it's our camera.

• 1:46:03Speaker 06

  But if it's a crime scene, you can't, somebody was just murdered.

• 1:46:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I see what you're saying, so that shouldn't be moved because it's a crime scene.

• 1:46:09Speaker 06

  Period.

• 1:46:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, that's a very good point, so why was it, so, so the government shouldn't allow that to be removed? And, and by the way, even after the assassination, there's a lot of people that were walking around and it was wide open and nobody was there on the scene because they were trying to probably take him back there to the hospital, their number one priority was for him to make it, but how quickly did they put the yellow tape, how quickly did that happen? The speed on that is-

• 1:46:34Speaker 06

  I didn't even see it.

• 1:46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  A little bit suspect, I, I don't know if, Rob, can you, can you post, was there yellow tapes put on the crime scene of Charlie Kirk's, uh-

• 1:46:42Speaker 06

  Assassination.

• 1:46:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Assassination? Was there yellow tape put there? I don't know if there was.

• 1:46:46Speaker 06

  I don't think there was, and you want to know even crazier? A couple of days I've been seeing construction being done around where Charlie was shot and killed, like I'm talking about they're digging up stuff. There was an, an escape hatch apparently that was down there, they're, they're, they're literally doing construction where it's there and this was days, this was a day or two after, Rob.

• 1:47:03Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's go back and stick to the story.

• 1:47:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:47:05Patrick Bet-David?

  So, cause again, Ackman and Netanyahu, you're going to a completely different story. So, your thoughts on what Ackman said and what, uh, Netanyahu said, Tom?

• 1:47:14Speaker 06

  So, oh, sorry.

• 1:47:15Tom Ellsworth?

  So, Ackman is, so we, we have this inferential accusation that, you know, this thing happened in the Hamptons and when they got Bill Ackman getting very, what, what surprised me about it, my take on it is wow. Bill Ackman reacted pretty quick and Netanyahu acted pretty quick. When does a head of state like respond to like, you know, rumors that quickly? I thought that was pretty quick. I also thought it was pretty quick that Ackman is like, hang on, hang on, that's not what happened here. Here, take a look, look at this, look at this. See, it was a friendly text. The friendly text just shows you had a friendly text. Friendly text doesn't, doesn't show us what- was talked about at the Hamptons, if anything. You see what I mean?

• 1:47:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  I'd like to know, was there someone else who said, wait a minute, I was there, I was standing there talking with them. I was here.

• 1:48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:04Tom Ellsworth?

  And someone's gonna have a camera phone that said, oh, there's the three people.

• 1:48:06Patrick Bet-David?

  So what are you saying, Tom?

• 1:48:08Tom Ellsworth?

  What I'm saying is, I don't know, I don't know what to think right now because both people come to the microphone pretty, pretty quick about the rumor. And there's a lot we don't know and it's a really sensitive situation. There's a lot of inference going on. I want to see receipts. I want to see who's the identity of guy with the camera? Who else was there at the dinner with Ackman? And let's get people to talk about it.

• 1:48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I got it. I got what you're saying. Adam, your thoughts?

• 1:48:32Adam Sosnick?

  Well, Tom wasn't here for the episode with Eric, so we had a little bit of the discussion. They did bring receipts. So not only do we have Bill Ackman, who is defending his side and sort of downplaying what Candace is saying, you have a guy that we talked about, our friend Andrew, who's the executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show. He came out and made a statement. He basically said, in so many words, Bill's not lying. Candace is. Here are my receipts. That's the problem with receipts. We always say like, you post something on the internet, the internet lives forever.

• 1:49:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't think that's what, no, no. I don't think that's what he said.

• 1:49:06Adam Sosnick?

  Show the text.

• 1:49:07Patrick Bet-David?

  I understand that.

• 1:49:08Adam Sosnick?

  Show the text.

• 1:49:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Read the text, Adam. Instead of saying that, let, read the text and let the audience decide for themselves on what Andrew said. So can you, can you?

• 1:49:17Adam Sosnick?

  Sure.

• 1:49:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Pull up that, you did that yesterday, again, or two days ago. So instead, just read what Andrew said and let the audience make a decision for themselves. If you, not that one, Rob. It's a text of what Andrew said, but continue. Rob's gonna find this here. Keep going.

• 1:49:31Adam Sosnick?

  In so many words, he was not on Team Candace. Fair to say, let you rush to judgment, but

• 1:49:39Adam Sosnick?

  you want to address Bibi Netanyahu or you want to address Candace right now?

• 1:49:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Take one, either one of them, both of them are combined. To me, it's Netanyahu, Ackman, Candace.

• 1:49:46Adam Sosnick?

  Okay, so why would Bibi Netanyahu address something like this? So you have two options. Do I address this or do I not address this? So the way that you would probably think about it is like, well, if I don't say anything, if I leave these lies unchecked, they will just spread more. So, all right, maybe I'll set the record straight. I'll say something. I'll try to protect my credibility and I'll come out and say, Bibi Netanyahu doesn't have the highest credibility on the world stage right now. So, but then again, not all lies needs to be, are worth addressing. Here's what Andrew Kolbitz said, the executive producer of Charlie Kirk Show Turning Point had to say Read it. About Bill Ackman. I've been asked about the Bill Ackman event. Yeah. More than a few times now. So I asked our staff who were traveling with Charlie to find out what's

• 1:50:29Adam Sosnick?

  true and what's not. His team was with him 100% of the time when he wasn't in his hotel room. So they're with him 100% of the time. Here's what they told me. Bill never yelled at Charlie, never pressed him on BB, never gave him a list of Charlie's offenses against Israel. So basically saying, Candace, no, you're wrong. There was a concern raised about having Tucker at the latest Turning Point event SAS. We don't believe this came from Bill. So not from Bill. What Charlie said was honestly, people are telling me not to have Tucker, which makes me want to have Tucker more. And I'm going to look into, look into him for Amfest 2. Cool. Lock him in. As far as Tucker, lock, okay. So cool, grab. But as far as Charlie personally told me, he had a very cordial

• 1:51:12Adam Sosnick?

  relationship with Bill and the event was very, was productive. Those are the facts. So in my opinion, there was someone who was in the room, Bill Ackman, like literally there. Yeah. And there's somebody that's like, from what I hear, people are saying, the easiest thing to say is, people are saying, how often does Trump do it? And when he does it, I'm like, who, did you just say that? Who said that? So that's the reality here. But can I give you one more clip just to? Yeah. Kind of put this here. I don't know what's going on with Nick Fuentes and Candace, but Nick Fuentes is no fan of Israel and the Jews. Here's what he had to say about Candace Owens at this point. Let's roll this clip.

• 1:51:53Speaker 32

  The past week was gaslight the public. And by definition, that's what it is. Gaslight her audience, gaslight the public. Netanyahu lied. He, they shot him in the throat because they're taking his voice. I have all these receipts, but I'm not going to publish them.

• 1:52:12Speaker 32

  And then literally a week later, she's gonna put on Twitter, "Oh, I never said they were behind it. I never said that at all. I just strongly implied it." "We all know what you said. We all know what you meant." "You dummy. You irresponsible, grifting dummy." I've so had it with that. And at the end of the day, she's just stupid. And defines low IQ antisemitism. I used to think it didn't exist. I used to think that low IQ antisemitism is just something that Jewish people would say to counter the rising tide of people acknowledging Jewish power. Now I'm convinced it's real. And it has a name. That name is Candace Owens-Farmer.

• 1:52:56Speaker 32

  Low IQ antisemitism. The idea that Charlie Kirk was silenced for being about to go against Israel, it's just, on its face, absurd and ridiculous. All she did for the past week was-

• 1:53:12Speaker 06

  Can you go back to that, can you go back to what, that conversation that Adam just showed? The one, the previous message, oh, right there, right there. So, if this is true, so there was a concern raised, a concern, that Tucker at SAS was gonna, he was gonna have Tucker on, and he said, "People telling me not to have him makes me wanting to have him more and have him on Amfest." So what they're saying is, the people out there that are saying it, that Bibi and Israel had him assassinated, killed, because he was trying to have Tucker on, on Amfest in that situation, because Tucker is critical of Israel. So is that, is that, in a nutshell, because he was gonna have an anti-Israel voice talking? That was gonna, that's what they killed him?

• 1:53:54Patrick Bet-David?

  If it's, if it's about, well, if it's about, if it's about, and by the way, I don't- I don't remember Nick being a pro-Israel guy.

• 1:54:04Adam Sosnick?

  He's not.

• 1:54:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, yeah, that, no, that's what I'm saying.

• 1:54:07Adam Sosnick?

  He's high IQ. He's high IQ.

• 1:54:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, no, what I'm saying is, he's not. So for him to take that position, and I think Dave Smith also took that position, right? Where Dave Smith said something about...

• 1:54:18Adam Sosnick?

  He's like, this is lazy. High IQ.

• 1:54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  On Tucker, didn't BB make a comment about paid by Qatari, or Qatari dollars?

• 1:54:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Netanyahu said paid by Qatari at the last 15 seconds of that video.

• 1:54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. Is he talking maybe to Tucker a little bit? So it's been all those accusations?

• 1:54:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, listen.

• 1:54:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Or is it just in general?

• 1:54:35Adam Sosnick?

  Those allegations get thrown out.

• 1:54:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You know...

• 1:54:37Adam Sosnick?

  Those allegations get thrown out a lot. Can I address this?

• 1:54:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:40Adam Sosnick?

  I hear people that are on quote-unquote "my" side, "Well, they're bought by Qatar, bro." You just know. I go, "What evidence do you have of that?" Yeah, show me. Show me. There's no evidence that Candace has been bought by Qatar. It certainly looks that she's not on Team Israel. Let's, so is Tucker, but there's no evidence of that.

• 1:54:57Tom Ellsworth?

  She turned down a lot of French dollars.

• 1:54:58Adam Sosnick?

  For both sides, show evidence, show receipts, or you're just making things up. And when Nick Fuentes, of all people, calls out Candace Owens for being low IQ, anti-Israel, something's happening.

• 1:55:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so, so, so one thing is, for sure, that she's not low IQ, okay? This is not a low IQ conversation. This, this is not a, a, a, if you sit down with George, very smart, very smart, and, and, no, this is gotten to a point of emotions getting involved. So not about IQ getting involved. This is about, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna read something to you that I read to Tom the other day. And i- i- i- it said, um, I'm reading this book, I wish I had it around me, to read it to you. And I brought it to Tom. I said, "Hey, man, you know, this is one thing I just read." I said, "We gotta, we gotta work on this."

• 1:55:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And he's like, "What is it?"

• 1:56:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's called Helen's Razor, okay? And I may be pronouncing it the wrong way, Rob. If you can pull this up. It's a story of, of, you know.

• 1:56:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Hanlows? Hanluns?

• 1:56:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanluns Razor. There it is, right there, second sentence. Yeah, it's a story about never attribute malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Or a mistake. Or a mistake. It suggests that people's negative actions are often the result of ignorance, mistakes, or incompetence, rather than intentional evil. This principle promotes a more rational and less conflict-driven approach to understanding situations, encouraging empathy, and a benefited doubt mindset by focusing on simple or less sinister explanations for others' behavior. I think this is the problem. By the way, in the context of how I explained this to Tom, was a very different context. So let me kind of explain it to you.

• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  We run a lot of businesses, and we're in a lot of different, you know, challenges, issues that we have. You know, we're suing these two guys, you know, a few million dollars for they're doing this. We have this other person we're dealing with because they stole internal, you know, whatever, and then this other person we're dealing with, and then that other person did this. So a handful of bad guys make you automatically think everybody's a bad guy. And when you run an insurance company, one of the things I would constantly talk to my compliance officer about is, everybody you talk to, you think they're guilty. Stop this mindset. And I would have this talk with them every week. Let me tell you what I think they did. Let me tell you what I think they did.

• 1:57:35Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, "Bro, can you just, let me talk to them first. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't." All right. So we'd get on the call with them, we'd talk to them, and they'd go, "All right, no, they didn't do this intentionally. Here's what happened." "Okay, great. Let me talk to them." And then eventually, you know who learned this habit? You know who picked this habit up and got very good at it? Tikron. And I'm like, Tigrum, can you just go into it and then find out if there's anything really going on instead of us jumping to conclusion? Yeah, I'll look into it. No, there's nothing there, Pat. For sure. Okay, great. Let's move on. Pat, I think there's something that you gotta get involved. All right, let me call him up. And then I get involved, right? This idea, by the way, this is also good in parenting and your marriage and friendships. In parenting, you're always like, last time I'm doing homework at 11:30.

• 1:58:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And automatics like, well, you know, how come we didn't put you in this after-school program, 3 to 5? What are you doing homework at playing? So one camp is saying, all he did is play. The other camp is saying, all he did is homework. And then one camp is saying, maybe he played and he did homework. Well, the reality was, I was stuck doing homework till 11:30. And by the way, I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't remember having this much homework at 6th grade. But apparently homework is increasing, okay? So it's easy in that, well, don't we tell you it's your fault and this is what you're doing? Maybe let's give the kid a benefit of the doubt and let's do a little bit of research. Maybe give your spouse a little bit of the benefit of the doubt instead of jumping to immediate malice. I think that's the problem here that some people are having with Candace. This Candace is not a low IQ person. Candace is not, she didn't get to where she's at right now because she's low IQ.

• 1:58:59Patrick Bet-David?

  And I think, what's his name knows that. Nick also knows that. Neither is Nick. Nick's not a low IQ person. He's also somebody that's very, both of them can be right and both of them can be wrong. The only challenge is

• 1:59:13Patrick Bet-David?

  immediately jump into conclusion to assume malice immediately. By the way, we all can be guilty of that. That's why it's called innocent until proven guilty. If they are, we'll talk to them. We'll call them out. If they're not, they're not. So, so, so the whole conversation here isn't about who's smarter, who's not. They both give me the vibes that they're very smart. They both give me the vibes that they're very well-read. Tucker, more than both of them combined, very well-read. One, he's older and his upbringing was in that world. So Tucker's grown up in this space for a long time. Did they have their own personal issues and vendetta against somebody that throughout their career, something happened, someone offended them?

• 1:59:56Patrick Bet-David?

  You know Nick's, I didn't know apparently Nick used to work with Ben Shapiro or something like, was it Breitbart? I don't know who he was working with. But there was something. I think it was both of them. Yeah, so, so there was something there and then something with Candace and then something with Tucker. They all have some history and they're trying to say, hey, let me tell you, I was right. Great. The average person, if you don't know the whole history and you don't know where people are going, our job is try to come here as much as possible. Let the name calling happen. We're getting called names freaking non-stop for different things that we're doing. The good news is it doesn't bother us. I had a girl that came in yesterday.

• 2:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, I got a call from, uh, uh, uh, uh, one of the top brass at Yankees. Hey, I got somebody I want you to sit down with. I said, no problem. You know, she comes down, we sit down, we talk. She wants to start a podcast. And I said, when you start your podcast, the first two years, read the comments. Oh, people tell me, don't read the comments. I read every comment. Even the negative ones. Yes, I read all the comments. Do you really? I can't do it now, but I generally read all the comments. Tell me why you read the comments. I said, because everybody falls in three camps. And by the way, you guys are watching this. You ever wonder, most people don't go live anymore. Because they don't like the chat of the negative comments. You're bad and sold, you're this, you're that, you're Mossad, you're Qatar. So, so I put all of you in three camps. Let me break it down for you what the three camps are. The one camp is what?

• 2:01:14Patrick Bet-David?

  The people that are just, no matter what emotionally haters. Totally get it. By the way, keep commenting. It's better for us. Traffic for us, we like it. We don't mind it, right?

• 2:01:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Then you have the people who are just tuning in and they're just trying to get the story for themselves. Then you got the people that are, have a high level of credibility with us that then when they give feedback, we take it. The people that are here, we watch you, we listen to you. We internalize it and we say, okay, great. That's interesting what the guy has to say. This is an era right now we're in that it is probably 90% noise right now and it's so hard to get past the noise that is taking place. And I want to listen to everybody and see what they have to say. But at the same time, man, keep this Hall- Halloran's razor in mind. Let me read it one last time, Rob, if I can. This, this may help you with your marriage, your relationship, your kids, your business partners. But a rule of thumb, never attribute malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity or what, Tom?

• 2:02:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Mistakes. Or mistakes. It suggests that people's negative actions are often the result of ignorance, mistakes, or incompetence, rather than intentional evil. The principle promotes a more rational and less conflict-driven approach to understanding situations, encouraging empathy and a benefit of the doubt mindset by focusing on simpler, less sinister explanation for others' behavior. Okay? So that's that. Let's get to the next story here. Next story I want to get to is, I don't even want to go through this long rap, and I don't want a reaction to this. I'm gonna go 30 seconds. I deeply regret, Adam's best friend, ABC News reporter apologized this after Charlie Kirk's comments that was made where he says, "Oh, it's just a story of a love

• 2:02:53Patrick Bet-David?

  affair between two guys that just love each other," and it's like, "Yesterday, I contribute," use that the first one, Rob. "Yesterday, I tried to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold-blooded assassination of Charlie Kirk, a man who dedicated his life to public dialogue, and a personal disturbing text read aloud by Utah County, turned out the press conference," and I go to the next one. "And I deeply regret that my words did not make that clear, but let there be zero doubt here. I unequivocally condemn this horrific crime and the pain it caused Charlie's family and those who forced the witness at UVU and the millions of people he inspired." Matt, respect you for apologizing. We all make mistakes. It's all good, buddy. We'll move on. Wish you nothing but the best. All right.

• 2:03:33Patrick Bet-David?

  So, uh, next story I want to get into is the story of, uh, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. Yeah, let me get to the story here. So Russia. Um, Russia, China, and Iran use Kirk's murder to stoke conspiracy theories and division. Okay? Conspiracy theories and division. Let's go through this. So, in the week since Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10 at Utah Valley University, which by the way, I got an email from them, invitation to do a live, uh, what do you call it, debate, uh, uh, on the campus. I literally got an email from them two days ago, from UVU. I'm good. Okay? In, in Orem, uh, Utah, Russia, Iran, and China have spread thousands of false or incendiary

• 2:04:18Patrick Bet-David?

  claims about the conservative activist killing. The official state media in these countries mentioning Kirk 6200 times from September 10 to September 17, framing the event as a conspiracy to stoke political divisions or portray the United States as dysfunctional according to analysis by NewsGuard, a company that tracks information online. Utah Governor Spencer Cox stated, "Two days after the shooting, what we are seeing is our adversaries want violence," noting that "we have bots from Russia, China, and all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence." These foreign influence campaigns exploit US News events to push geopolitical agendas, aiming to undermine America's democracy and its global reputation with McKinsey,

• 2:05:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Shadegi, NewsGuard's editor of AI, and foreign influence, saying, "The more confusion and mistrust they can inject right after a breaking news event, the harder it becomes for people to know what's true and who to trust." Folks, let me read that one more time. Pay very close attention to what was said here. "The more confusion and mistrust they can inject right after a breaking news event, the harder it becomes for the people to know what's true and who to trust." Russia state media, including RT, amplified unsubstantiated claims the day after the killing that people near Kirk were making heart and hand signs to cue the shooter despite law enforcement confirming Tyler Robertson, the charged suspect, acted alone, and Russian ultra-nationalist

• 2:05:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Alexander Dugin claimed Charlie Kirk was on our side of the line, frontline that now divides humanity, falsely alleging the deep state and George Soros Open Society Foundation were behind the killing, echoing some US conservative narratives." Tom, thoughts on this?

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• 2:07:03Tom Ellsworth?

  You take a look around the world. You know, propaganda is nothing new. And communists trying to do things in the US is nothing new. And us trying to create, the CIA trying to, you know, destabilize governments in Central America during the 70s and 80s in the name of anti-communist thing is nothing new. And now they've got new weapons. And the new weapons are the electronic weapons of fakery and social media and planted news stories and ChatGPT analytics that are driven to create things that look that much real. It does not surprise me that people that right now that are annoyed with us would, as Rahm

• 2:07:46Tom Ellsworth?

  Emanuel would say, never let a good crisis go to waste. And so I could see, if I was Xi and I was being evil like Xi, and I would ask the guys at my weekly staff meeting, if Xi has it, I would say, hey, guys, yeah, the US has got this dust up here at Charlie Kirk. How are we using this? We're in the middle of trade negotiations. We're winning points, we're losing points. What are we doing on this? You're my intelligence guy. You're my CIA of China. Why aren't we doing something here? I believe it's happening. I believe it's there. And we need tools to filter it out. But they absolutely want to create problems for us, Pat. And they absolutely are not going to let any scandal that we're having go to waste. Because these are some of the, we're in a cold war. If

• 2:08:29Tom Ellsworth?

  you think about it right now, we're in an information war. So we're in a cold war of information. And the tools are social media networks and planted news stories, manipulated reporters, data that looks real, that our news media may pick up and then talk about. So that's the way I see it. We're in a cold war for information, and they're not going to pass up a chance.

• 2:08:52Adam Sosnick?

  Well, the biggest problem in America right now is we just don't know who to trust. Who do we trust at this point? I mean, we get a lot of credit here saying you have no idea what you guys do on the podcast, how meaningful it is because you guys have open debate and discourse and you'll yell and you'll disagree, but at least we'll find the truth. But we don't, everyone's living in their echo chambers. We don't know what's going on, but as far as China, Russia and Iran, you think they're just idly sitting by? This Charlie Kirk situation, this is their Super Bowl. You know, the whole meme of Jon Stewart sitting there like eating popcorn, just sort of like excited to watch the show? They're not doing this thing. Bro, China, Russia, Iran, they're buying the popcorn, they're buying the movie tickets,

• 2:09:37Adam Sosnick?

  they're giving free seats out to everybody. Everybody go watch this movie. They're acting in the movie, they're directing the movie, they're the executive producer. They want to see America burned down. And you know, what did Lincoln say? The biblical quote, "A house divided cannot stand." That's currently where we're at in America right now, this inflection point we talk about. What was the summer of 1968? That's when MLK was shot, the year 1968.

• 2:10:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Bobby.

• 2:10:01Adam Sosnick?

  That was Bobby Kennedy. We're living in this moment.

• 2:10:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Two months later, they were shot two months apart.

• 2:10:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, we're living in this moment where Charlie Kirk dies. God, someone gets shots next. What could happen to this country? I'm never the one being like, "This is the Civil War, bro." I'm never the one being like, but, and I'm not advocating for that at all. But this is very scary right now. And the infusion of Russia, China, Iran with chatbots and fake news and disinformation, misinformation, they're eating their popcorn, just watching the show.

• 2:10:34Speaker 06

  I felt, could I just come clean and be completely honest and transparent? I would, when it first hit, everybody, we were on, we were at the vault, everybody's on the phone. Bro, and then a day, two days later, there's like a guy scratching and, and you're, and it could be somebody from a different country making the video where you're like, wait a minute, could that? Could he have a gun? Is this guy who's just grabbing his hat that works for, for Turning Point?

• 2:10:58Adam Sosnick?

  Did he just have an itch?

• 2:10:59Speaker 06

  Did he just, yeah.

• 2:11:00Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, an itch? Oh, so good. Itchy trigger finger?

• 2:11:03Speaker 06

  Well, by the way, and even if right now, God forbid, they're recording this moment right now, and God forbid I get hit from a bullet. Every movement that Pat just right now, they're gonna be like, who's he? Pat's texting somebody. Pat's doing this. But again, you have to wait, and the beauty of it.

• 2:11:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Hanlon's razor.

• 2:11:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, I agree on 100%. And you made a great point. We're a podcast. Pat, Pat will have a story from a credible source. And guess what? If it's questionable, boom, Rob does his freaking fantastic job. We look, we Google, we chat GPT. We try to, we try to say the truth, and then we give our opinion. Okay, but these people, and you nailed it, they want to see us fail. So everybody just needs to chill. And again, like I said with that camera, we need to find out, everything needs to be laid out in front of us. By the way, this isn't the Zapruder film from back in the, in the 60, what year was?

• 2:11:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, but it is, it is. This is, this is, we don't trust our government. We've been asking for things about Kennedy. What about this? What about that? What about this? What about that? And then The Onion published something that I thought was very apropos satire, goes back about 10 years ago, they did it. It's a picture of the Kennedy motorcade, and it says, President shot 62 times by 120 assassins. And so, in other words, putting it all together and saying, okay, you're all right.

• 2:12:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:12:13Tom Ellsworth?

  But right now, we're, we're upset about Epstein. We see shadows in Epstein. We see shadows in JFK. Where's the JFK doc? Where's the MLK doc? Is it really James Earl Ray? What's all this? And in the middle of that, another thing happens. What's our first instincts? Hanlon's razor.

• 2:12:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:12:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, this guy, that guy, this guy. And we're thinking about that every moment. We're kind of conditioned.

• 2:12:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it is important to rise above, and business will force you to follow Hanlon's razor. If you don't, you're not going to build a big business. If you're gonna be jumping to conclusion when every time something happens, oh, I think they're doing something, pump the brakes, relax, set the emotions aside, let logic sink in, and then make your decision. Sometimes you have to sleep on things. That's why they say, let me sleep on it, right?

• 2:12:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:12:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And tell you what I want to do, what I don't want to do.

• 2:12:59Patrick Bet-David?

  But I think probably the better position to have right now, believe it or not, is instead of trusting one of the conspiracies that people are spewing, you're better off not trusting anybody today. Isn't that kinda weird? That you're better off not trusting anyone today? And just kind of hearing things out and controlling your emotions. It's a skill set that'll help out in your personal life and your business life. And let's see what news will eventually break with what happened. In the interim, entertain everyone's opinions. Okay, that person's historically been fair. That person's historically, we know what side their biases are. That person's motive is this, this person's motive is that. Okay, cool, I got it.

• 2:13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's what I think, I'm in this section when it comes down to reason. And generally, you know, if you go too emotional, you're gonna be wrong. And so have some patience, pump the brakes. We'll eventually, God willing, find out what happens here. Because I will tell you this, you said something about who they go after next. I think Christians and conservatives were forgiving with one. Let me tell you, you do another one, they're not gonna sit there and be mourning. I'm just telling you, like, don't, don't, don't, don't get, don't get our Kindness for weakness, yeah. Faith of forgiveness and confuse it with that fire's not in the belly that this can continuously happen. No.

• 2:14:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Right now, the example was shown of what we're capable of doing as individuals. And I think that was an incredible example that's been set. But my prayer is that everything settles down and doesn't get crazier than what it is today. As we celebrate Charlie's funeral this Sunday, you're gonna see, it's gonna be livestream all over the place, you guys will be able to see it. And last thing, Vinnie's shirt, if you guys are someone that are about your faith and you wanna be bold about it, and you wanna represent that around your peers when you go into the gym, working out, if that's you, go support Vinnie's shirt, Faith Over Fear, on VTmerch.com. White, black, gray, pick and choose, whatever you got. It's gonna be there. God bless everybody, we will do it again on Monday. Have a great weekend, bye bye.

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