Pod Insights Handsome Pretty Little Episode #64 About this episode Fortune and Mae muse about starting a harmless cult and take part in a listener-suggested game on a playful Pretty Little Episode!
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1:25 Mae Martin? So what are you waiting for? Get started on your dream website today. Head to Squarespace.com/handsome for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code HANSSOME to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Handsome Pod. Pretty little episode. Welcome to the Handsome Pod. This is a pretty little episode, and I'm Mae Martin, joined by the ray of sunshine herself. Me, Fortune Vee Mester? It's you and me. That's right. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. I always think about this, you know Jiminy Glick, the Martin Short character?
2:10 Mae Martin? There's a bit where he interviews Julia Louis-Dreyfus, and he goes,
2:15 Speaker 00 And here she is, Miss Yum Yum herself.
2:20 Mae Martin? Miss Yum Yum herself.
2:21 Fortune Feimster? Miss Yum Yum. That's, um, yeah, that's a funny, crazy character.
2:26 Mae Martin? I do like Jiminy Glick. I like Martin Short. How are you doing, man? Like your watch?
2:32 Fortune Feimster? Oh, thanks. Hamilton.
2:34 Mae Martin? Very handsome.
2:36 Fortune Feimster? I appreciate it. I'm good. I just flew back into town. I had a show in Atlanta, which was super fun. Um, yeah, so I'm just getting my bearings.
2:46 Mae Martin? Yeah, I'm off tomorrow to New York and trying to figure out what to pack. And not, not my synthesizer. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna pack a light.
2:57 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, you gotta do the, the press for your show, right?
3:00 Mae Martin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did my pre, my pre-interviews with, um, Kelly Clarkson Show. Talked a lot about you.
3:09 Fortune Feimster? You feel good about the topics they brought up?
3:12 Mae Martin? I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
3:15 Fortune Feimster? It goes by so quick.
3:17 Mae Martin? Have you ever used beta blockers?
3:19 Fortune Feimster? I have not.
3:20 Mae Martin? You know, those, they're like, they stop your body from experiencing the symptoms of nervousness or anxiety. And I've tried them once and I felt real lethargic. So I, I don't use them, but I wish I could, cause they, they're supposed to make you just superhuman. You could go on the Kelly Clarkson Show, no problem.
3:38 Fortune Feimster? So are you, is your plan to take a beta blocker?
3:41 Mae Martin? I don't think I want to risk it just in case I'm like, whoa.
3:45 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, that would be dicey.
3:47 Mae Martin? Yeah.
3:48 Fortune Feimster? I think you'll be great. Just be yourself.
3:50 Mae Martin? Okay. Who is that again?
3:52 Fortune Feimster? Okay.
3:56 Fortune Feimster? Well, the new evolved you after having come back from, uh, your experience.
4:02 Mae Martin? The new evolved me bears a striking resemblance to the unevolved me. Does all the same things and is still anxious, but yeah.
4:13 Fortune Feimster? Well, that's all right. You can still be anxious and still be the charming person you are.
4:18 Mae Martin? Thanks, bud. Well, ditto. I, I feel like. There's only so much you can like calm your nervous system and have a bath and do self-care when the world itself is so scary.
4:29 Fortune Feimster? I know. I do enjoy a bath though.
4:31 Mae Martin? Oh, do you?
4:32 Fortune Feimster? I love a bath.
4:34 Mae Martin? Well, I know we've talked about your butthole getting out of the, sorry, getting out of the bath. But yeah, do you, is it, you, you have one every night or what?
4:43 Fortune Feimster? No, not every night. Um, but like once a week, maybe.
4:48 Mae Martin? Yeah. God, it's good.
4:49 Fortune Feimster? My new house has a bathtub. I actually like, my last house, the bathtub was not very comfortable.
4:58 Mae Martin? Yeah.
4:59 Fortune Feimster? So I would, uh, hot tub it more.
5:02 Mae Martin? Yes.
5:03 Fortune Feimster? Um, I haven't even, um, gotten in this hot tub.
5:06 Mae Martin? You got a hot tub at the new place too?
5:08 Fortune Feimster? I do. It's a small, little small one.
5:10 Mae Martin? Yeah.
5:11 Fortune Feimster? Uh, but it's, I don't need anything big. It's just me. So,
5:15 Mae Martin? Yeah.
5:16 Fortune Feimster? I'm hot tubbing over here.
5:18 Mae Martin? Hot tubbing, bathing. You're gonna be just so relaxed, like jelly, just, yeah.
5:24 Fortune Feimster? Yeah. So this one, this tub is, is still fairly shallow, but it's more comfortable.
5:31 Mae Martin? Yeah.
5:31 Fortune Feimster? So I can get in there and I, it's where I'll like learn my lines and stuff.
5:35 Mae Martin? It's a nice image. Would you, have you ever, have you ever used like a bath pillow for your head? That's like, then you're gonna fall asleep. That's all. It's too comfy. Yeah. I used to date someone who would, she'd get in the bath and be like, come get me if I'm not out in like an hour. And she'd always fall asleep.
5:53 Fortune Feimster? An hour is too late.
5:55 Mae Martin? Yeah.
5:57 Mae Martin? You're floating face down.
5:59 Fortune Feimster? Oof. No, yeah. This one's too small for me to do that, but.
6:04 Mae Martin? Yeah.
6:04 Fortune Feimster? Anyway.
6:05 Mae Martin? Something's happening.
6:06 Fortune Feimster? To go there.
6:07 Mae Martin? I'm excited to hear some questions from, uh, from these listeners. I keep wanting to send in a fake question, doing a voice and see if anyone notices that it's me.
6:17 Fortune Feimster? Well.
6:18 Mae Martin? Now I've blown it.
6:19 Fortune Feimster? I know. I was like, well, now I might be listening for that.
6:21 Mae Martin? Yeah.
6:22 Fortune Feimster? All right. Well, let's hear, um, questions that I don't think are from you.
6:26 Mae Martin? I want to do one that's like,
6:27 Speaker 04 Hi, this is specifically for Fortune.
6:30 Fortune Feimster? And I know if you do that voice, I won't know it's you.
6:33 Mae Martin? Okay, I'll do a different one.
6:34 Fortune Feimster? But I don't think I would have realized that was you if you had done it without prefacing that.
6:39 Mae Martin? Really? Okay.
6:41 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
6:41 Mae Martin? Okay. All right. Well, let's, uh, well, okay. Let's hear what people are saying.
6:47 Fortune Feimster? Okay. Okay. Okay.
6:50 Speaker 05 Hey handsome, this is Ally coming from Chicago and my question is, if you could start like a harmless cult, if there ever were such a thing, um, what would that be?
7:03 Fortune Feimster? A har- you know, some cults might have started out harmless, but then those cult leaders get drunk with power.
7:11 Mae Martin? Yeah.
7:12 Fortune Feimster? And it always goes south.
7:14 Mae Martin? They always start with like us proposing a solution to a very real problem and it all seems really appealing. And then, yeah, someone's like, but I could marry all of you.
7:24 Fortune Feimster? Cause wasn't that, that one like Wild Wild Country, whatever it was, they wanted to try to help drug addicts and
7:31 Mae Martin? Totally.
7:32 Fortune Feimster? homeless people and then they were like, uh oh.
7:36 Mae Martin? Very quickly, they're like, we're gonna put snakes in people's mailboxes.
7:39 Fortune Feimster? This cult leader's taking lots of money from people. This one's sleeping with this person.
7:44 Mae Martin? Yeah.
7:45 Fortune Feimster? It always is like, uh, somebody gets drunk with power, starts sleeping with everybody and steals the money.
7:50 Mae Martin? Yep. Yeah, that's pretty much the trajectory. Would you, so if you had a cult, would you, what would your rules be or like the, the goal?
7:59 Fortune Feimster? Well, A, just in, I don't want to be a cult leader. Let me just preface that.
8:04 Mae Martin? Let's make that clear.
8:05 Fortune Feimster? Some people are like, do actually have that desire. I don't want to be in charge of people and their life at all.
8:13 Mae Martin? Yeah.
8:14 Fortune Feimster? Um, that does not appeal to me in the slightest.
8:17 Mae Martin? Yeah, you got your own life to deal with.
8:19 Fortune Feimster? I got my own life. Listen, I'm happy to give advice. I'm happy to chat with people. I want the best for people. But I ain't, I ain't the one trying to guide you into the, into the light to where you need to go. I'll give, you know, a couple, uh, like I said, things of advice, but man, that's just too much responsibility.
8:38 Mae Martin? Yeah, it would end up just being another thing on your to do list.
8:41 Fortune Feimster? Another thing. I guess if, I mean, a cult of like happy stuff.
8:48 Mae Martin? Yeah, just hanging out.
8:49 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, like hanging out, getting massages, taking baths. Not together. I don't need it to be sexual. Um, eating, uh, pad thai.
9:00 Mae Martin? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, maybe like an, it's connected to like an elephant sanctuary. Remember you wanted to hang with elephants in Thailand?
9:09 Fortune Feimster? That's right. Yeah.
9:10 Mae Martin? I remember. I listened.
9:13 Fortune Feimster? What would yours be? I feel like you would, I think we've talked about it a long time ago, that you would be a good cult leader.
9:19 Mae Martin? Really? I, I don't remember anything we've said.
9:23 Fortune Feimster? I know, this was early days.
9:24 Mae Martin? What occurred to me just then was, this is nefarious, but I think for good. Uh, I would start a cult that specifically appealed to billionaires and far-right world leaders like Trump and, and those people. And I'd lure them in with like, this is an exclusive elite cult where it's like the Illuminati. And then, and then once they're in there, I'd soften their little hearts and, uh, awaken their inner children and, and change their, their minds and their hearts.
9:55 Fortune Feimster? Oh, okay.
9:57 Mae Martin? So it'd be like taking all the, all the scary people fucking up the world.
10:01 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
10:02 Mae Martin? Get, getting them, luring them in by being like, you, you got a gold ring and a nickname. And then I would, uh, I'd be like, and now I'm gonna spoon you and whisper in your ear that, um, you gotta do better.
10:14 Fortune Feimster? And you think that would do the trick?
10:17 Mae Martin? You know? I'm up for giving it a go.
10:20 Fortune Feimster? You might get murdered.
10:21 Mae Martin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't actually wanna spoon Donald Trump, let's be clear. I just wanna trick everyone into one place and then like.
10:30 Fortune Feimster? And get people to be better.
10:32 Mae Martin? Yeah, like brain, yeah, brainwash them. Make them listen to Bette Midler, "From a Distance."
10:38 Fortune Feimster? From a distance. Then what? What happens there?
10:42 Mae Martin? The world is blue and green and the mountains.
10:48 Fortune Feimster? Something.
10:50 Mae Martin? From a distance, God is watching us.
10:55 Fortune Feimster? God is watching us.
10:56 Mae Martin? God is watching us.
10:59 Fortune Feimster? God is watching us.
11:03 Fortune Feimster? From a distance.
11:05 Mae Martin? I, my grade five birthday party invited over about half the class and they all sat underneath the ping pong table in my parents' granny basement and I put on Bette Midler and I sung in my best voice the entire, like multiple songs and they had to listen and so maybe I should be a cult leader because I was a bossy kid.
11:26 Fortune Feimster? You got people to do random stuff for sure.
11:29 Mae Martin? They were like, this is the worst birthday party I've ever been to.
11:32 Fortune Feimster? Well, all right. Well, listen, in this world of handsome questions, anything, it can be anything you want. So your cult can be the thing that you said.
11:42 Mae Martin? Yeah.
11:42 Fortune Feimster? Um, mine, and it will just assume it works.
11:46 Mae Martin? Yes.
11:47 Fortune Feimster? And then mine will just be everyone's happy getting massages and eating pad thai.
11:51 Mae Martin? Having baths.
11:52 Fortune Feimster? We're not trying to accomplish anything.
11:54 Mae Martin? Yeah, that's kind of nice. That's refreshing. Yeah, just relaxation.
11:58 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
11:59 Mae Martin? Should we hear what Ali's answer is?
12:00 Fortune Feimster? Yeah.
12:01 Speaker 05 I like to say I've already started it. Um, I would start a tap dance cult. I'm always recruiting people to my tap class, which is in Chicago. So when you're in Chicago and you really want to take some tap lessons, come join me. Um, but I've been recruiting people who maybe I've met, uh, Metwork or other places who used to tap dance and haven't in a long time. So they'll come back to tap class. Um, and then, I don't know, I think the, the whole goal of the cult is that, um, tap dance brings joy and just, just come to, come put on your tap shoes, take a class, um, learn about tap dance, get in the tap
12:43 Speaker 05 community and it's pretty, it's pretty harmless there. All right. Thanks.
12:48 Mae Martin? I like that. I mean, Ali says it brings joy, but I do remember when we all tried to tap dance, um, I found it wildly frustrating because I wanted to be good at it and there's like a big gap between my. My, my want and my ability.
13:04 Fortune Feimster? It's definitely harder. No, it looks hard, but it also is hard.
13:08 Mae Martin? It's hard. It's hard. You're using all different parts of your foot.
13:12 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, we were sweating up a storm when we did it at our live show.
13:16 Mae Martin? We really were. Yeah. Also, I can just see the Netflix documentary about like, it started like a harmless tap dance cult. And then there's footage of like writhing naked people, but they got their tap shoes on still and they're all tapping.
13:28 Fortune Feimster? Stomping on people.
13:29 Mae Martin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:37 Fortune Feimster? I love it. All right. Let's hear another one.
13:40 Speaker 06 Hello, Tig, May and Fortune, or whatever combination of the two of you is here today. My name is Sarah and I'm calling in from Washington DC. And I've been particularly moved recently by you all talking about your families and especially Tig. You're just passionate about your kids and all that you say about them. And so I thought maybe you could play a game that my dad used to do with my sister and I.
14:14 Speaker 06 Kind of at a bedtime tuck in situation. He worked a lot and so he would come in and we would pick a number between like seven and his current age and then he would tell us a story from that age. So maybe you could give numbers to each other and tell a story from that age. I'm looking forward to hearing what you guys have to say. And yeah, just love this podcast. Listen every week and it's very soothing. Especially where I live.
14:51 Fortune Feimster? Huh. Not heard of this game of you.
14:53 Mae Martin? No, I like a game and I like that. I'll get, I'll throw an age at you.
14:57 Fortune Feimster? Okay.
14:59 Mae Martin? Thirty-eight.
15:00 Fortune Feimster? Thirty-eight and I'm supposed to tell you a story of something that happened when I was thirty-eight?
15:05 Mae Martin? Yeah, because I'm thirty-eight, aren't I? Or am I thirty-nine?
15:08 Fortune Feimster? I don't know.
15:09 Mae Martin? I think I'm thirty-eight. Yeah, I'm thirty-eight.
15:12 Fortune Feimster? Thirty eight, gosh, okay, that would have been pre-COVID. I unfortunately live my life lately by what specials or what tour I put out. That makes sense. What tour I went on, what special I put out. So that would have been, um, pre-Sweet and Salty,
15:33 Fortune Feimster? uh, which came out, uh, in COVID. So I was still doing clubs. Okay. But you know, it's not like your childhood, we were like, I specifically remember when I was 12, we did this thing. Like when you're an adult, everything like becomes a blur unless you have milestones. Like I got married or I got engaged, I got this. Uh, Jax and I were together a couple of years then. Um, so I honestly. Do you remember your 30th birthday? My 30th? Thirty eighth. Thirty eighth. Yeah. I do not. Okay. Because we were never big into like parties, so we never did much for our birthdays. I did a lot more for my birthday when I was single.
16:18 Fortune Feimster? Yeah. I remember my 30th birthday and my 35th birthday. Okay, are we switching gears? We're switching gears. Okay, let's say 35th, 35th. 35th. Yeah. Okay, um, that, so when I turned 35, I had just met Jax, uh, like three days before, four days before. Okay. We obviously liked each other and we're kind of like seeing, um, how we, like we hung out in Chicago and then, um, spent time getting to know each other over text. She was in Italy for like three weeks. Um, so I was, uh, like, oh, I like this person, but I'm still like living my life. And I had a big 35th birthday party that I threw her and myself
17:04 Fortune Feimster? at the gay country western bar in LA called Oil Can Harry's. Yes. And it was super fun. Um, it was my last party as a single woman. Not that I did anything on my birthday that was. Um, uh, indicated that I was single, but um, I had my friends, uh, burlesque troupe do a fun dance. Oh, fun. And it was hot as balls because it was summertime and this bar did not have air conditioning. Um, and I did not take that into account. So everyone had a blast, but was like, just every picture, everyone's face is red and just pouring sweat. That's so fun though.
17:47 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, but it was such a blast. Ordered a bunch of pizza and cupcakes and. Did you dance? Yeah. Oh yeah. We had a really great DJ, um, that, uh, play, plays like all the, um, like old school stuff, like nineties and stuff. So like everybody was dancing like crazy and, um, so yeah, that, that birthday felt kind of like my last, like we're, the last time I felt young. Oh my God, fortune. Okay. This year we're having a party.
18:19 Fortune Feimster? Well, I just in July I had a birthday and I did absolutely nothing. No, we're. It's not getting better. It can't happen again like that. Okay. Next, next year I'll have to be in a better, I was not in a great space, I guess. We'll do a big party next year. Yeah. Cause I was, I was leaving my life. I had left my life as a married person, going into my life as a single person again. And it, there's a shift there where you haven't really seen a lot of your friends for a long time. Cause they just got so used to you being in a couple and you, or me touring and being unavailable. Like I still have those friends and those friends still love me, but you're just not in that rotation with them. Yeah.
19:01 Fortune Feimster? Like you were when you were single. So I just was in a very transitional year. Yeah. And, and those milestones are tough after, after breakups too. It's, yeah. So yeah, there you go. Thirty-five for me. Let's see for you. Oh, huh huh huh. What about your 30th?
19:21 Mae Martin? Well, I had a crazy party for my 30th in London. I was living in London and I was too drunk and trying to make everyone play Spin the Bottle and I did give a handjob in the bathroom.
19:38 Fortune Feimster? Whoa.
19:39 Mae Martin? To my friend.
19:41 Fortune Feimster? Your friend?
19:42 Mae Martin? Well, I mean, we'd been hooking up, but.
19:44 Fortune Feimster? Oh, okay. I thought your friend was just like, happy birthday. Like, let me try to do a British accent. My happy birthday. No, that's not good. That's Australian.
19:55 Mae Martin? But it was.
19:56 Fortune Feimster? Why don't you give it a wank?
19:58 Mae Martin? Wow.
19:59 Fortune Feimster? That's your birthday present.
20:01 Mae Martin? Those were the magic words. That's all you had to say. But I remember it was, I was just like really gung ho. But well, we went to make out in the bathroom and I just remember being, being like, really, and there's a whole lineup for the bathroom. And he was kind of like, let's not, not here.
20:15 Fortune Feimster? Well, also, it's your birthday. Why are you giving handjobs? You should be getting something.
20:20 Mae Martin? It's the gift. It's a gift for me, too.
20:23 Fortune Feimster? Really? Okay.
20:24 Mae Martin? No, I don't know. I don't know what I was doing, but I was, it was a really fun party for sure.
20:29 Fortune Feimster? Oh, that's great.
20:31 Mae Martin? Yeah. And then I found out that he slept with my friend that night. So like, he had a great night.
20:37 Fortune Feimster? Were you upset about that or it was fine?
20:39 Mae Martin? I think it was fine. Yeah.
20:41 Fortune Feimster? Okay. Look at you. Just free love. Free love. Everybody gets some.
20:45 Mae Martin? Those are the days.
20:49 Mae Martin? Well, Sarah, thank you so much for the question. We like that game, even though it kind of brought into focus for us that the last decade has been a blur of non-events, but.
21:00 Fortune Feimster? I know. I'm going to start making some new memories.
21:02 Mae Martin? Or just keep it a little journal or something. I want to, I want to get more fastidious about that.
21:07 Fortune Feimster? True. Maybe, maybe fun things have happened and I've just gotten older and I forgot about them.
21:12 Mae Martin? A billion percent fun things have happened.
21:17 Fortune Feimster? I had a, I had a lot of fun on, uh, after my show in Atlanta.
21:22 Mae Martin? Oh, yeah.
21:22 Fortune Feimster? I had some good friends that, uh, that happened to be, uh, well, some that lived there and happened to be in town. And they came backstage and I had, um, stuff to make old fashions with.
21:35 Mae Martin? Oh, yeah.
21:35 Fortune Feimster? And, um, we just, and it was Zach's birthday, so we like drank old fashions and ate cake and, and for like a couple hours. And it just ended up being really lovely.
21:45 Mae Martin? They didn't kick you out of the dressing room because that's my favorite when they let you stay and hang. Cause I, you don't want to go to a bar and go, you lose people in the traveling from point A to point B.
21:56 Fortune Feimster? I know, we, which we tried to go to a gay bar for like 30 minutes and then we're like, what are we doing? We're tired and, um, and we did lose people in that transition, but, uh, it all worked out. It was, well, yeah, the show was, or actually it was about an hour and a half backstage. I never like to go too late and be rude.
22:14 Mae Martin? Yeah.
22:14 Fortune Feimster? But, but then other times they're like, oh, people stay here till like two in the morning. I'm like, I would never do that. This was like till 11:30.
22:21 Mae Martin? Yeah.
22:22 Fortune Feimster? And yeah, it just was like, everyone was laughing and there was a couple of groups of people that didn't know each other. And they were all, by the time I came back from my meet and greet, you know, chatting and drinking and.
22:34 Mae Martin? Yeah. See, write that in your journal.
22:36 Fortune Feimster? Yeah, that's right.
22:39 Mae Martin? All right. Well, thank you so much for your questions. Keep sending them, please. Uh, you can go to speakpipe.com/hansampod and we want to know your, we want to know your games that you've invented or weird game, or I do anyway.
22:51 Fortune Feimster? Ask us questions, ask us advice, whatever you want.
22:54 Mae Martin? Yes, please.
22:55 Fortune Feimster? Well, until next time.
22:58 Mae Martin? Keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Willett. Email us at [email protected] and please follow us on social media at handsomepod.
23:17 Tig Notaro? What a podcast.
23:18 Speaker 00 What a podcast.
23:23 Speaker 06 That was a HeadGum Podcast.
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