Pod Insights Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce Kylie on Her Childhood Celeb Crushes, Giving Teens “The Talk” & Artemis II Mission Goes Philly w/ Elizabeth Banks | Ep. 63 About this episode Kylie’s back with a brand new episode of NGL brought to you by Pull-Ups! She kicks things off by shouting out the first woman AND Philadelphia sports fan to fly around the moon, astronaut Christina Koch (1:11). Go Birds. Kylie also announces a new merch collection the Real Ones can purchase now (3:05)!
After that, Kylie answers some of the Real Ones’ questions about her best TV show recommendations right now, her childhood celebrity crushes and her best tips for getting through the 1-2 kids transition for parents (6:11). Kylie also reacts to the viral “labor cookies” debate on TikTok and weighs in on an adorable and hilarious video of a toddler attempting a big jump (14:45).
Then, Kylie is joined by legendary actress and director, Elizabeth Banks (20:45)! Kylie and Elizabeth bond over their love for Philly as well as the dynamic on “The Other Podcast.” Kylie asks Elizabeth about her most iconic roles like Gail in “Pitch Perfect” and Effie in “The Hunger Games" (35:20). Elizabeth weighs in on Elle Fanning being cast to play the younger version of Effie in the next ‘Hunger Games’ sequel out this fall.
Kylie and Elizabeth also have an incredibly candid conversation about motherhood, specifically when it comes to raising older kids (40:20). Elizabeth talks about loving each phase as her boys get older, how she feels about giving teens “the talk” and the best motherhood advice she ever received (51:33).
You can find even more clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Elizabeth on our YouTube channel on More Sh*t Monday.
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0:59 Kylie Kelce? Wave.
1:02 Kylie Kelce? Not Gonna Lie, eight years ago today, Jason and I said I do.
1:10 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. And I'd say it again, over and over and over again. I love that man. And also, he's mine. Don't forget it.
1:21 Kylie Kelce? Let's get this podcast started.
1:27 Kylie Kelce? Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Pull-Ups. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey, local animal nerd, known to hide when I eat chocolate. Seriously, you should have seen me with the Tim Tams last night. If you know, you know. And other desserts, so my kids don't find me, because I don't want to hear, "Can I have some?" Or, "What's in your mouth?"
1:53 Kylie Kelce? And noted supporter of women supporting women because women, specifically the professional women's hockey league, are setting attendance records at Madison Square Garden. The women of the WNBA are finally getting paid with 15 WNBA players so far signing $1 million plus deals. Insane. Oh yeah, and astronaut Christina Cook just became the first woman to fly around the moon. Shout out and go Birds to astronaut Christina of the Artemis 2 crew. She can actually be seen in space in her Phillies jersey with an Eagles bucket hat on. Outstanding. We love that so much. Having a Philadelphia sports fan to be the
2:34 Kylie Kelce? first woman to fly around the moon feels appropriate because we are passionate and there's a certain level of grit to us that I feel like Christina probably directly applied to her training and also this mission. So way to go Christina. I can truly say that these are the types of things that we should feel privileged, that we get to be alive for and witness in current times. That's very exciting.
3:14 Kylie Kelce? I was not watching the live streams because going to space freaks me out. The girls and I did talk about how amazing it is that Christina was in the rocket, that flew around the moon, and that that's a really big accomplishment for her and women. We did discuss that. It was, I mean, there are six and under guys, so it was pretty surface level, but we did talk about it. Christina, you are welcome on NGL anytime. I hope that didn't need to be said. And of course, as always, a go Birds. All right. Now that we've addressed our space travel for the day, coming up on today's episode, a fresh edition of Ask Me Some Things where we've got questions about the transition from one to two kids and childhood
3:58 Kylie Kelce? celebrity crushes. After that, I'm going to be joined by someone I've Always wanted to talk to. She's a hilarious actress who's been in some of my favorite movies ever. She's also a director, co-owner of a soccer team and somebody I have, you guessed it, no business speaking to, Elizabeth Banks. But before we get to all that, let's start with a quick NGL announcement. Attention Real Ones, merch is back. We got the FAFO hoodie and no business being here hat back. Plus, we also just launched a brand new collection. Let's see the photos, Queen Emma. Yes, support women's sports. You got it. That's what we do around here. Women, supporting women. You see what we did there? Support women's sports.
4:42 Kylie Kelce? Support women's sports. We've got the sweatshirt, t-shirt, and hat for this one. I love this one. I'm very excited because I personally really enjoy when we have t-shirts or merch that doesn't have my name on it. Because then I can wear it. So, I want to be like the real ones. I want to be matching. Let's be matching. We also have NGL long sleeve now, and look at that. The back says, "It's fine, I'm fine." Yeah, because if we say it enough, we'll believe it. Check all of it out now at NGLKylie.com. Oh, my gosh. You
5:24 Kylie Kelce? know what this means, guys? Every time we launch a new merch line, we get to pick a charity that we are going to donate the proceeds to. This is so exciting. Here's the deal. We love to impact as many people as possible. So, Real Ones, I'm gonna, I would love some suggestions. If you have organizations or foundations that impact girls in sports, and realistically, I do think that if this also includes girls in the arts, we would also like to look into that because sports are not the only way that you can have extracurricular activities that enrich the lives of your children that also teach them about working with a team.
6:07 Kylie Kelce? If you have an organization or a foundation that you think support women in sports, or girls in sports, or girls in extracurricular activities, please let us know so that we can review some options and we will get back to you with which one we choose to be the recipient of this March launches charitable donation. Next order of business, a brand new addition of Ask Me Some Things because Ask Me Anything was too open-ended. Seriously, you guys gotta chill. Ask Me Some Things is brought to you by Pull-Ups. I thought for some reason when my brain first saw that sentence, it was like, Ask Me Some Things is brought to you by Kylie Kelsey. We've joked about it, but one of these times, guys, I'm gonna pay for an episode and then say whatever the hell I want. That's a lie, we do that anyway.
6:52 Kylie Kelce? You're literally not allowed to be a sponsor if you're gonna try and tell me what to say. Okay, Ask Me Some Things is brought to you by Pull-Ups. First question here. Mmm, a toodle. That's adorable. Thirty-one. What is your favorite movie, TV show, and do you have any recommendations? Let me tell you. The last thing he told me, I need to finish the season. I got a little bit distracted because I kept trying to watch it in instances where I was not with my children. And oftentimes, that means that I'm by myself in a hotel room or something else, and it freaks me out to watch that show when I'm not in the safety of my own home with a big
7:34 Kylie Kelce? large man sleeping next to me. I love The Pit. Don't. I had to, I had to select Not Interested on TikTok, on multiple The Pit TikToks, because it was going to spoil. I have not had the time to dedicate this, the time to watching the rest of the season that's currently out. I need you guys not to tell me because I'm in it. I love that show. I think the cast is outstanding. I think it's such an eclectic group of people. And the characters are so good. And I also, my ADHD loves that it's one day. It loves that.
8:17 Kylie Kelce? For some reason, it doesn't make it feel like this season is this long drawn out situation. That it's going to be like short, sweet, to the point. And it's not, it's, it's hour long episodes about the hour of the shift. It's fine. I love it. I love it so much. Next question. Childhood celebrity crush.
8:43 Kylie Kelce? Uh, one of the brothers on Home Improvement. I don't know which one, maybe it was the middle one. There were three of them, right? It was the middle brother on Home Improvement. I thought he was cute. Freddie Prince Jr. Because, what is that movie? What is that movie? What is that movie? She's All That? No. Is it She's All That? With the girl with the glasses and she's Laney and she's, yep. She's All That.
9:09 Kylie Kelce? I loved the movie She's All That. And I think that
9:14 Kylie Kelce? that Freddie Prince Jr. character specifically is what I liked. I just loved that movie. I loved that she was so pretty and she was in painted overalls. Paint spattered overalls. And then all of a sudden, it was like, you should take off your glasses and wear this cute dress. And suddenly everyone was like, oh, she's gorgeous. And it was like, what? Those are literally the only two that come to mind, which is kind of ridiculous. Uh, Rose wants to know, tips for going from one to two will be 20 months apart. Oof.
9:50 Kylie Kelce? One to two, to me, felt great. It was entertainment for the older and entertainment for the younger. When the older one is launching themselves off of things, the little blob is just laying there watching them like, that's pretty crazy. So it's built in entertainment both directions, which I really appreciated. The good news about one to two is that you still have a hand for each. If they, if they, if they do ready, break, and then they run different directions, you can still grab both of them. So. Uh, 20 months apart feels good. Our oldest are 17 months apart and it was so nice because now it feels like they're hitting stages very quickly behind each
10:35 Kylie Kelce? other and it's been that way the whole time and they'll learn from each other. It's so cool to have siblings that are that close in age. I'm biased again because most of our, all of our splits are 17, almost two years, almost two years. It's great. I love it. I will say, get a really good baby wrap. Something that you're comfortable with, that you can put on easily. I was not the person who liked the really long one that you have to figure out how to tie and tuck and all of that stuff. Um, I watched plenty of videos. I got the hang of it. I still didn't like it. It wasn't for me. I think a baby wrap because if your second is a Velcro child or a Velcro baby, it's so much easier to strap them in. Make sure their
11:19 Kylie Kelce? head is secured and they're tucked safely against your chest. You not, I am not a medical professional, but the tip I was told was you should be able to easily kiss them on the head just by dropping your chin. They shouldn't be like sinking down between like lower than your boobs. Um, that, that is helpful because then you get both of your hands back and don't feel bad about dropping food on that child's head. Do not. I'm not going to judge you if you drop some sandwich on their head. Just make sure you pick it up. If they're close enough that you can kiss their head, you could probably just eat it off of their head if it fell down there. Just a thought. Okay. Uh, that's Ask Me Some Things brought to you by Pull-Ups. Now let's get to Doom Scroll of the Week brought to you by Lululemon.
12:03 Kylie Kelce? First up, there's a TikTok trend right now where women are asking their partners if they would eat hypothetical cookies they were given in labor while they are unable to eat. Really? Let's see the clip, Queen Emma.
12:16 Speaker 03 Say, we were married and I gave birth to our child. You know you can't eat while you're giving birth.
12:24 Speaker 04 I can't?
12:25 Speaker 03 Women can't eat when they're giving birth.
12:28 Speaker 04 I would not eat cookies while you're giving birth.
12:30 Speaker 03 Have you heard this story?
12:31 Speaker 04 Nope, but I know where it's going. I would never do that. Is that foul? Did someone do that?
12:36 Speaker 03 So, this doctor brought this woman two cookies and she goes, "Just save me one of them. You can have the other one." While she's in labor. He goes, "Okay, yeah, yeah." He eats both of them. She goes, "After labor, after a really, really, really hard stop."
12:58 Speaker 03 Are you kidding? Oh my god, that's so sad!
13:00 Speaker 04 I know, it's so sad!
13:02 Kylie Kelce? Okay, first of all, this gentleman is a walking green flag. I can just throw that out there real quick. Second, um...
13:12 Kylie Kelce? Okay, I have a couple of questions here. First of all, I have not seen this trend. If I asked Jason not to eat a cookie that was intended for me,
13:28 Kylie Kelce? he wouldn't eat the cookie that was intended for me? Is that simple?
13:34 Kylie Kelce? The fact that there were two cookies and she asked for just one cookie to be saved for her and he couldn't do that?
13:48 Kylie Kelce? You should have... nope. You should have asked the doctor, "Nope, that wasn't gonna be any better." You should have punched... I'm kidding.
13:58 Kylie Kelce? I just can't fathom
14:02 Kylie Kelce? having a human being exit your body and looking forward to a cookie and then your partner has already eaten your cookie. That was for you. You know those instances where someone
14:16 Kylie Kelce? does something and they look for some recognition? You're like, "Oh my gosh, yeah, you earned a sticker. You get a cookie." Like, that's your reward? That is the bare minimum for childbirth. So, the fact that he ate your cookies...
14:30 Kylie Kelce? Wow. Also, I would just like to point out, uh, quite some time ago, I made a TikTok about childbirth and my husband's involvement in it. And, um, it was a joke, which people thought I was serious, but it was fully a joke. And at some point, I recorded him eating bagels while I was in labor and therefore could not also enjoy the bagels. And I have had to go back and explain that I actually, the background audio of that clip is me like enjoying him eating the bagel. Like I wanted to know how the bagel was. But don't eat my
15:15 Kylie Kelce? fucking cookies. You know? I have full faith that Jason would not eat my cookies. I know that for a fact. I have faith in my husband, especially on today, our eight-year anniversary. I know he wouldn't eat my cookies. Alright, let's keep it scrolling here. Uh, the next clip is no exaggeration, one of the best things I've seen on the internet. Can you number the clip, please?
15:42 Speaker 05 Can you show me what a frog does? Let's see it.
15:47 Kylie Kelce? Yes. It says, "My toddler's version of a frog jumping."
15:53 Speaker 05 Good job, baby.
15:53 Kylie Kelce? For our audio listeners, he is straight-legged hopping. And let me just, his physique, impeccable. If I had to explain it to people, I would say that it looks like you shrunk down an, an offensive lineman. You shrunk him down, you just did like the little pinch that you do to zoom out on your iPhone. That's that. And that's his physique. So, he's perfect. And then, he's hopping, but his legs are
16:32 Kylie Kelce? straight. And, no fault of his, he's not actually going very far. And, he was not asked for sound effects, but he's fully in character. And he said, "Rebet. Rebette."
16:51 Kylie Kelce? No notes, not a single fucking note. Mom also posted a video of him doing a big jump. And it's fantastic.
16:57 Speaker 05 Can you do a really, can you do a really big jump?
17:02 Kylie Kelce? Oh.
17:08 Kylie Kelce? Again, for my audio listeners, when he is jumping, this is a big jump, a big jump was requested. He is in the grass of the backyard and I promise you when he does the jump, the grass blades are still touching the bottom of his feet. Now, the comment section on that video didn't disappoint. As always, we sprint to the comments. Lex says, "The sky is truly his limit." See what you did there? Uh, the next person said, "Woo, thank goodness he didn't fly over that wall."
17:44 Kylie Kelce? Cause there was a chance of that.
17:47 Kylie Kelce? And the third comment says, "LeBron James is real quiet since this reel dropped." Which is hilarious. He does not have ups. There are no ups happening. I can vividly remember the feeling that I had watching every single one of our girls jump for the first time. Now, Finny, the only jumping she has done was when she was learning to walk and she would try to, what I call scurry. But I think she would equate it to running, an attempt at running. But her feet were still not ready to walk and she was trying to run. So sometimes when she would try to sort of get a jump start, it would be just that.
18:29 Kylie Kelce? Both feet would go at the same time and her feet would actually hit heel first at the same time. And then she would end up, her feet, and she'd go really like toes over nose and just on her ass. And it was outstanding. I didn't like that she was bonking her butt. I loved that she was doing it with a jump. I still remember watching the other three girls learn to jump. And then proceed to show it off to everybody. I love little kids jumping. I love little kids learning a new thing. And then showing it off as if it is just, I mean, Olympic gold medal earning situation.
19:14 Kylie Kelce? What can they do?
19:18 Kylie Kelce? Some impressive feats. I am of the, what was it? A Vine? I don't, it's not even a Vine. It's a clip from The Office when they're going, "Parkour, parkour, parkour!" And just jumping off of chairs. On a regular basis, I will like, just do a little sideways jump off of a step and be like, "Parkour!" And so then they started doing that. And now they will set up obstacle courses in the living room and jump off of a cushion, onto the couch, and then stand back up and go, "Parkour!" And I love that. And that does it for Doom Scroll of the Week, brought to you by Lululemon. Coming up, I'm about to be joined by Elizabeth Banks, right after these messages from me.
20:04 Kylie Kelce? As a mom of four kids, six and under, I can actually admit, I may know a thing or two about potty training. It was difficult to figure out, but we got through it the first time. And by the second time, she was taking notes from her older sister. And then, you guessed it, the third one came along. She took notes from the two older ones. I'm hoping that that means that Finn is going to be the easiest. There may or may not have been a time where there was a turd on the kitchen floor. It was my first go-round, and I've since learned. What I know has worked consistently is positive reinforcement and the help of pull-ups. Luckily, there's a new product from pull-ups. The number one potty training
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21:29 Kylie Kelce? Maybe 19 years old. I picked them because they last the test of time. I still have my favorite pair of Lululemon shorts for a solid 10 years. They have lasted so long. Plus, their new spring styles take that even further. Right now, I'm into the new Steady State Super Loft pieces. This is the sweatshirt. They are unbelievably soft. A nice, thick fabric that you know is going to not only keep you cozy, but be a good layer to the elements. And here's the thing you need to know. Lululemon does limited color runs. So when those new styles drop every Tuesday, they go fast. You don't want to wait. If it's
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22:43 Speaker 06 Go, um, okay. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. With you, I'll allow it.
22:48 Kylie Kelce? Okay, here's, I have a question for you because I know that you have posted in an Eagles hat before.
22:54 Speaker 06 Yes.
22:54 Kylie Kelce? You are from Massachusetts, but you have a couple of different connections to Philadelphia. Is it your time at UPenn that got you?
23:02 Speaker 06 Yes, 100%.
23:03 Kylie Kelce? Okay.
23:04 Speaker 06 Um, well, also-
23:05 Kylie Kelce? If you can't beat them, join them.
23:06 Speaker 06 So a couple, a couple of things. Yeah, I mean, fly Eagles, fly. Um, I, for, so I'm, I'm also in Invincible, the Vince Papali story.
23:16 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
23:16 Speaker 06 So I really got immersed in Eagles culture, you know, um, while making that film. But I had gone to Penn in Philadelphia. I'm a huge fan of Philly as a city, as a sports town, incredible sports town. And as a Massachusetts person, New England, we have an incredible sports fandom. So like, I know it when I see it. And like Philly really brings it. And, um, my husband is from Portland, Oregon. So they have the Portland Trailblazers, but they have no football team. So, um, when we were 18 years old and young, he sort of adopted the Eagles as his team. So in my current home-
23:57 Speaker 06 My husband is an Eagles fan. I am a New England fan and we are raising kids who are from LA, which is wild to me. And so we are also trying to allow them to be Rams fans. But when you're in Philly, it just feels, it's hard not to be swept up by it. And I went to a lot of Eagles games as a college student and even beyond. One of my favorite things to do was to take the subway in Philly down Broad Street, you know, and get down there on a game day. Because you get on, I remember getting on, we were playing, I don't know who we were playing, the team was wearing red.
24:40 Speaker 06 So I'm gonna say, I don't know. It wasn't San Francisco or I don't know. But anyway, we get on and this poor couple, like the whole car, train car, right, is Eagles fans. And this poor couple in their red jerseys. And they just start singing, fly eagle fly, you know, on the road to victory. Like it just starts, it starts slow and then it builds. And then they're like, the fans are like on top of this couple that's just there. And then, and I was like, this is gonna go sideways so quickly. And then immediately everyone's like, da da da, high fives and off the train. It was like nothing. And it was just, um, I thought, yeah, that's them. It's a little threatening, but ultimately they are peaceful most of the time.
25:25 Kylie Kelce? Yeah, we're aggressive. I say this wholeheartedly owning it. We are aggressive. We are passionate.
25:34 Speaker 06 Yes.
25:34 Kylie Kelce? And if you don't meet us with a combative energy.
25:39 Speaker 06 That's right.
25:40 Kylie Kelce? We're good.
25:41 Speaker 06 That's right. This couple was like, uh huh, yep, we know where we are. We understand now, we are not in control of this moment and we are not coming for you. And like, this isn't the place. And yeah, I agree. I think that they it felt actually ultimately just sort of friendly.
25:55 Kylie Kelce? Yes. Now, I will say, on your way there, I assume that people were not quite at their end of game status, if you will, which helps.
26:07 Speaker 06 Yeah, they were a bit underserved, not overserved yet. So the underserving definitely helped the scenario. Yeah.
26:14 Kylie Kelce? Uh, we also have something else in common. Apparently, we're both fans. I I mentioned this to you before we started recording of what I like to call the other podcast, AKA New Her-
26:25 Speaker 06 Yes.
26:26 Kylie Kelce? Don't bleep that. Don't worry. Uh, because you posted this hilarious TikTok reaction to one of their more ridiculous clips.
26:34 Speaker 06 Yeah.
26:35 Speaker 07 You kind of just know when somebody reaches up to squirt you to open up your mouth.
26:38 Speaker 08 Squirt you.
26:39 Speaker 07 And then you just get squirted. But you don't always, like, they don't have to do the squirting. You can do the squirting sometimes. But, you know, when you develop a relationship, you just know when you're about to get squirted on.
26:50 Speaker 08 You develop the relationship.
26:51 Speaker 07 Yeah.
26:52 Speaker 08 You gotta have a good relationship with this person squirting.
26:55 Kylie Kelce? It it gets wor- right when you think it can't get worse, it gets worse.
27:01 Speaker 06 It it does. And here's the thing. I was like, does Jason, when did Jason catch on? Because clearly Travis realized it right away, I feel like.
27:12 Kylie Kelce? Uh huh.
27:13 Speaker 06 And then just was sort of egging him on. What I mean, for like, so they're talking about the sort of guy who comes up with the Gatorade and goes, you know, because they don't want to touch each other's mouths, just saying cooties. I don't know. Um, and so I love that that's, it's so clear what they're talking about. And your husband just went all in on that one. And it really delighted me to no end. And when they get on those riffs and they kind of egg each other on, I really, that's, I mean, that's the sibling relationship that we all want.
27:45 Kylie Kelce? It is the lightning in a bottle that they have that everyone enjoys tuning in on. The way they riff off of each other is absolutely hilarious.
27:55 Speaker 06 Yeah.
27:56 Kylie Kelce? But it does, it it is ridiculous to me that they will get in something like that. And you're just like, guys.
28:04 Speaker 06 No, but I love it.
28:04 Kylie Kelce? Can we stop saying squirting?
28:06 Speaker 06 They gotta work the bit.
28:08 Kylie Kelce? And they do, and they're good at it.
28:09 Speaker 06 They're so good at working a bit. I mean, this is why they're, you know, who they are and why this success is what it is because they're having fun with life. Guys, life is hard. Let's just have a little fun. Talk about squirting in each other's mouths. I mean, I'm somebody who's like, male sports generally are already so ridiculously, I'll call it loving, okay? I'll call it loving. Men love each other so much. They dress up in each other's jerseys. They hug each other. They pat each other on the butt.
28:43 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
28:43 Speaker 06 You know, they're like, it's like blowing kisses. I mean, you know, I don't know how invested you are in heated rivalry. I'm very invested.
28:52 Kylie Kelce? Let me tell you, I haven't seen it yet. I know, I know. But what I will tell you is-
28:57 Speaker 06 You should stop right now so you can watch it.
29:00 Kylie Kelce? The number of TikToks that I have seen, TikToks or things on Instagram where people are like at a, at what they're calling the boy aquarium, which is-
29:10 Speaker 06 Yes.
29:10 Kylie Kelce? A hockey game.
29:11 Speaker 06 The hockey rink, yeah.
29:12 Kylie Kelce? And, and they look at each other and one person says, so when do they kiss? And now people have applied it to all other sports.
29:21 Speaker 06 That's great.
29:21 Kylie Kelce? Gosh, well, since we're already talking sports, let's flip to some really, I think, a happy side of sports.
29:29 Speaker 06 Oh.
29:29 Kylie Kelce? Is your ownership of the Boston Legacy.
29:32 Speaker 06 Yeah, thank you. I, I'm, I'm really excited to be part of the ownership team of Boston's latest franchise, Boss Legacy, the NWSL team. We've just kicked off our first season. You know, it's, I think it's a wild prospect to think about starting from scrap, building anything from scratch. And, but in Title Town, Boston, you know, we are really trying to build out a women's sports franchise in a town that has an incredible fandom already. And from what I've seen so far, I was at the kickoff game at Gillette Stadium and we had, you know, over 30,000 people there.
30:14 Speaker 06 It was an incredible feeling and I, you know, the team then was in the St. Patty's Day Parade the next day and like people had the gear on and they were like they already knew the players and it's, I think it's gonna be really, it's gonna be really intense and it's gonna be really special, but I think ultimately it's time and we're ready, we're ready to have a sports team for, for women in Boston.
30:39 Kylie Kelce? That's such a, that's like a really good summary of women's sports right now, right? Like it's time and we're waiting in Philly for the time that we get to have a women's soccer team here. We just got word that 2030, we're getting a W team.
30:59 Speaker 06 A WNBA?
31:00 Kylie Kelce? So we're, we're headed in the right direction.
31:02 Speaker 06 Yeah. Look, you know, I think sports is a universal language, right? It's like, it's watching, we all love watching the best of us. When you are rising to the level of professional sportsdom, like you've started young, you've committed yourself, you are like, you're reaching for something that very few people, there's seven billion people on the planet. There's only so many professional sports teams. Like you are working at the highest level and I think it's so inspirational for people to see and women want to be inspired in that way too. And I want to honor the women that have devoted their lives to their sport by actually paying them to play it and watching them do it and, and cheering
31:46 Speaker 06 them on. So it took not just like, you know, me saying it, I wanted to, I wanted to put my money where my mouth was.
31:54 Kylie Kelce? That's incredible. Now, I, I'd also love to talk to you about the TV shows and movies that everyone loves you in.
32:01 Speaker 06 Thank you.
32:02 Kylie Kelce? Starting of course with your brand new show, The Miniature Wife. All 10 episodes are officially streaming now on Peacock. Can you tell us a little bit about this? For the real ones who haven't seen it yet, what do they need to know?
32:12 Speaker 06 The Miniature Wife, a lot of it's in the title. It's about Les and Lindy Littlejohn. My husband is a wild, incredible scientist. He's been working on a shrinking formula, and he accidentally shrinks me. And it's really about power dynamics in a couple. And I think we can all relate to that sense of feeling small in a relationship. Sometimes it's in your romantic relationship. You feel like your needs-wants might be being minimized by your partner. Sometimes it's in a professional setting. My character is an award-winning writer, but she has writer's block, and she feels like she's not getting ahead in her career anymore. I think we can all sort of relate to like a boss that makes you feel small.
32:58 Speaker 06 But ultimately, it's a couple that started off in a partnership and has become a competition. I think that's also really relatable for people. I don't know about you, but I try very hard not to keep a tally sheet in my relationship, right? Like, well, I did the dishes, and you need to do the laundry. And I'm doing the pickup, and you're doing the this. And like, it's hard, right? Like, when we're really trying to co-parent and like be in a partnership. I think there are just gender dynamics at play and social dynamics at play. And this show is not afraid to tackle those and give the wife a bit of the moral high ground because she gets shrunk and diminished. But then she's very complicated and a little flawed.
33:43 Speaker 06 And so I meant to give you an elevator pitch, and now I'm telling you about the entire show.
33:47 Kylie Kelce? No, it's funny because you're in your explanation and you saying about how it's sort of like trying, like, just in our own relationships, of not trying to keep a tally board of what people are doing. And in the scene where your character is shrunk down... It's, it is literally like, well, I did this and you did that and then you didn't do this. And, and it's the perfect example of like, when everything gets bottled up and all of a sudden you guys are just like, let's, let's traumatum.
34:18 Speaker 06 Yes, exactly.
34:19 Kylie Kelce? Let's lay it all out.
34:21 Speaker 06 Yeah.
34:21 Kylie Kelce? Um, but it is, it's incredible to, to know that it really is a very obvious version of like, yes, you got smaller, but it's addressing that in those moments, you might feel significantly minimized.
34:37 Speaker 06 Yes, minimized. I think that, that what was fun was there's really big themes and we were just gonna make that feeling that I think is very relatable, literal in the show. And what happened to me when they shrunk me in real life, in the show, in the shooting of the show was I had to then work on green screen. Anytime I'm six inches tall, I'm working alone, isolated from my scene partner, from the whole rest of the cast and crew, in a giant green box by myself. And it's the most vulnerable I've ever felt as an actor because it's already sort of ridiculous to like make believe for a living. Okay, let's be honest. And now I'm make, I'm like make believing to like a ball on a stick or like an eye line
35:20 Speaker 06 that's a hundred feet away alone, while the crew is just like walking to craft service and like on their phone and not being, you know what I mean? Like I have no, I just have no, I'm just alone.
35:31 Kylie Kelce? There's no back and forth.
35:32 Speaker 06 Yeah. And like, it was really like a mind mess. Like it really fucked with my mind. I don't know if you can swear on your podcast, but it like really.
35:41 Kylie Kelce? Please, we have a series called Fuck Around and Find Out. You say whatever you want.
35:44 Speaker 06 I know, I know. I suppose that's true. Um, yeah, I really fucked with my mind. Like to be alone and just feel so vulnerable. Like, guys, I'm trying to imagine literally the, the, the floor I'm walking on, you know, the walls around me, not to mention like a cat or my husband or my scene partner. And I'm doing like monologues and emotional stuff and I'm crying and I'm like alone. Like it looks insane. Like if you just actually saw behind the scenes footage of me doing this. It's insane what it looks like. And so everyone saw, I really like dropped in and sort of looked outside myself and thought, this is so weird what I'm doing.
36:20 Kylie Kelce? But you, but to your credit, then watching it and, and not having any sense of like, oh, there is a disconnect. You are so locked in and it is so flowing. It's so, it's so fluid and lovely. And so to, to watch it and know that that's what you were working with is insane. That is, that takes a severe amount of talent. Now, you also have so many movies that I want to ask you about. One of my favorite movies of yours is Pitch Perfect.
36:55 Speaker 06 Yeah.
36:56 Kylie Kelce? It is just, I mean, endlessly quotable, hilarious cast. It was top to bottom outstanding. Do you have a favorite line or scene from the movie?
37:09 Speaker 06 Well, I love saying, "Ah, excuse me." I still will, everyone will smile, "Ah, excuse me."
37:15 Kylie Kelce? Thank you so much for saying that. I say that to my kids. I'm not exaggerating. Probably once a day.
37:22 Speaker 06 I mean, "Ah, excuse me" is just so ridiculous and
37:26 Kylie Kelce? All the time.
37:27 Speaker 06 Also, it just sort of says, like, what you're saying is ridiculous.
37:32 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
37:32 Speaker 06 Like, calm down.
37:33 Kylie Kelce? Meet it with ridiculous and say, "Ah, excuse me."
37:36 Speaker 06 "Ah, excuse me." Yeah.
37:38 Kylie Kelce? You're being ridiculous, I'm gonna be ridiculous.
37:40 Speaker 06 Yeah, you're being insane.
37:42 Kylie Kelce? It's so good.
37:45 Speaker 06 Yeah, I love that one. I mean, look, I freshen up the downtown, something that really sticks with me as well. Yeah, I really love that character, Gail Abernathy McAden Feinberger. Muhammad, I believe is her, ultimately she got married five times, I think. Really loved her and she's iconic. And, and like, go for, you gotta go for icon status, you know, if you're gonna make something, try to be iconic.
38:12 Kylie Kelce? Well, speaking of an icon, one of, another iconic role is Effie.
38:17 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:17 Kylie Kelce? In Hunger Games. Talk about like a larger than like, not only in the way that she is dressed and the way the character looks, but then also like the personality. That was a very impressive role to watch.
38:34 Speaker 06 Effie is one of my all time favorites, partially because I think as a character, she has one of the biggest arcs of anyone I've ever played. And I think Effie speaks to this moment in time in a crazy way because Effie was somebody who held up the fascist patriarchy of President Snow because she really benefited from that system for a really long time and it, you know, she got a lot of self-worth from it. And she's a great cautionary tale. And she's someone who then realizes that that system is not fair. When Katniss and Peeta get brought back into The Hunger Games, she's, that absolutely
39:18 Speaker 06 breaks every rule of like what the system is supposed to do. They're supposed to be free. They won. They're supposed to be out. And it's such a, it's such a harsh reality check for her and a change of heart that she ultimately becomes a revolutionary. But I just thought this is such an incredible story and unfortunately, I think it speaks more and more to the time that we're living in right now.
39:41 Kylie Kelce? You said it. I saw the next Hunger Games is coming out this fall with Elle Fanning playing a younger version of Effie. Did you talk to Elle about the character at all?
39:51 Speaker 06 I saw Dakota after she got cast, but I haven't seen Elle, but we, we texted about it because I was so excited for her and I know Elle a little bit. And I just think she's fabulous, a fabulous choice, actually kind of the only choice, to be honest. And I also felt like the fans really wanted it to be her and I think the fandom for The Hunger Games, they get what they want.
40:18 Kylie Kelce? Well, I think they know it deeply.
40:21 Speaker 06 They do. They're so invested. And in terms of like who Effie was, I'm really interested to see like what they do with that, with that beginning, you know, like with that story. And I think it's really exciting. I loved, I loved the, the last movie was great. Bow the Songbirds and Snakes can be incredible. Like it's all that whole world that Suzanne has created and also very empowering for young people, right? Like telling young people that they need to be interested citizens in the world around them, that they can't just let the world happen to them. They actually can be a part of it. They have to be invested. Like these big policies, these politicians, like the things that they're doing matter.
41:05 Speaker 06 They, it actually affects their lives and they need to start that process of being involved as, you know, as, as young as they can be.
41:11 Kylie Kelce? That is so appropriate. Right now, right now.
41:18 Speaker 06 I love talking about Effie for this reason.
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42:49 Kylie Kelce? Now, I'd like to talk to you some more about motherhood.
42:52 Speaker 06 By the way, girl, you have so many kids.
42:55 Kylie Kelce? So many.
42:55 Speaker 06 You have twice as many kids as me, and I have too many kids.
42:58 Kylie Kelce? Yes, but you've made it further.
43:03 Speaker 06 I will also tell you-
43:04 Kylie Kelce? You are further, you are slightly further down the road.
43:07 Speaker 06 And the road, I'm telling you, it gets more and more fun. I love it.
43:11 Kylie Kelce? That's-
43:11 Speaker 06 I love every stage. I don't miss any of the younger- I mean, I'm a littleness, I'm just not a nostalgic person by nature. I'm always like, let's go forward, what's next, what's in the future. I'm like really excited for tomorrow, you know? And I have to say, people are like, oh, you have two teenagers. Oh, is that, oh. And I'm like, I don't know what you're doing at home, but my teenagers are a blast. I'm addicted to them.
43:37 Kylie Kelce? They must have girls. The people saying that to you must have girls.
43:41 Speaker 06 They must have girls. I know. And you have four of them.
43:43 Kylie Kelce? Yes.
43:44 Speaker 06 I'm the oldest of three girls, and then we had a baby brother, so I also have four kids in my family. And it's, everybody in a- there's just those bad moods, those low days, those like cra- you know, those rage, like, all of it. And you're not gonna escape it, no. But hopefully they'll, but they are gonna be each other's best friends, I bet. Because I bet-
44:06 Kylie Kelce? They already are.
44:07 Speaker 06 Yeah, so I'm, you know, my sisters are my best friends, and I think it was really important to my parents that that be the case. And I love that they passed that on to us, that sense that like, do not mess this up. Like, as you get older and as you go through life, like, the person that's gonna know you best and is gonna understand you, is gonna be there for you is your siblings. And four girls, I mean, my goodness, they are gonna have a great time.
44:32 Kylie Kelce? I hope so. You can already see them sort of riffing off of each other's personalities in a way that is so complimentary and also so opposite of each other.
44:42 Speaker 06 Yeah.
44:42 Kylie Kelce? That it's like you guys have the world right here. Like, all of you together are just like, you're the best little squad. And I'm excited. I'm never wishing away like the current phases we're in, but I'm very much like, I'm excited for the day that they can like wake up, get their own cereal, start their own day.
45:04 Speaker 06 Oh, girl, you've no idea. It's the best. And the other thing, you know, what's interesting is I actually think because I travel so much for work and I have that little bit of mom guilt, it's not even guilt, it's that I just love being with them. And so I will still, even though they're perfectly capable of getting themselves up and making a bagel and, you know, getting out the door, I get up most mornings. I just, I don't, I want them to see me before they go to school. I want to have that like grounding moment with them. And I got really good advice when I was a young mother and my kids were little. You know, I was so sort of guilt ridden and sad about like being at work when they were like
45:46 Speaker 06 three. And I remember someone saying to me, I think even like Julianne Moore said it to me, like, you gotta be there when they're 13. Because three is like, it's great, but like, they just need, they're so, don't take offense, three-year-olds, but you're basic, okay? You need to be fed.
46:04 Kylie Kelce? Not a worry in the world.
46:05 Speaker 06 You need to play a little bit, but like, you know, you're not having these like big, big, 13 is, they're trying to figure out how to be humans. They're trying to figure out who they are. They're trying on personalities. They're like, they're looking at their, how they have power in the world. What does it look like? How are they cool? You know, I remember our school said to us, uh, 7th graders want to get an A in exactly one subject, social. They just want to be the A plus in social. And it's so true, you know, they just, they don't know who they are. And their friends start disappointing them and they, you know, they, they're not sure who to trust with their big feelings. And like, you have to
46:49 Speaker 06 be that rock that is just like their emotional stability. Because man, when those hormones start hitting. Like it's you're they're becoming a different person, you know, they're really, they're figuring stuff out in a way that um you need to be a bit of a guide. And I feel it right now, thirteen and fifteen are my boys. And I really feel that sense of um just like they just want to touch a little bit back to like, oh, but my mom's still here, like I had a big day, I had a big feeling, I had a thing happen, but my mom is like, she's right there.
47:25 Kylie Kelce? Safe space.
47:26 Speaker 06 Yes.
47:27 Kylie Kelce? Security, there's a sense of security that I've been told multiple times, little kid, little problems, big kids, big problems. And I'm like, that makes a lot of sense. We're talking about, I mean, my kids are talking about little things, right? What they're gonna wear to school tomorrow, the shoes are itchy in the wrong spot. All of those like little things that'll like bring out the big feelings. And when they get to middle school, which I I still believe the worst of the worst.
47:54 Speaker 06 Absolute worst. There's no, nobody makes that alive. It's so bad.
47:59 Kylie Kelce? Yeah. And and then you get to middle school and it's all of these things happening, friends are speaking meanly, or or this person said that. And it's like you have to help them be secure in themselves.
48:11 Speaker 06 Absolutely.
48:11 Kylie Kelce? In a way that was like when you were younger, a hug and a kiss would fix it. And now we're like really figuring out how to navigate the world.
48:19 Speaker 06 You know, I also, you know, you're you just realize the older they get, like mine's gonna drive next year. And the consequences, right, of what they're doing, sex, driving, drugs, smoking, vaping, social media, the whole, all of it, just that's what they're navigating like. And they're navigating it in a way that it's coming. I mean, I feel overwhelmed in the world that we're living in right now. And I can't imagine being a young person who's being overwhelmed by everything. And the consequences of like a wrong move. I mean, I, the level of stress that I have as a parent of older kids now,
49:04 Speaker 06 you really have to lay foundation as soon and as early as possible with these kids so that you can trust when they go out. You know, my kids are like, you don't trust me. And I'm like, no, I don't trust the world around you. Like, I know that you're gonna be a conscientious driver and da-da-da. But like, you make mistakes. Your brain's not developed. Like, there's, you know, like,
49:25 Kylie Kelce? I don't want to tell you.
49:26 Speaker 06 Yeah, like, you're not built for it yet, you know? And then we're like, go drive on the highway. Like, ah! It's, it's, it's so nerve-wracking as a parent because we understand the consequences because we have the experience.
49:41 Kylie Kelce? Right. And now, I just saw that you were talking to Jimmy Kimmel.
49:44 Speaker 06 Yeah.
49:45 Kylie Kelce? About having the talk.
49:47 Speaker 06 The talk.
49:47 Kylie Kelce? So talk about the responsibility of sending your kids out into the world. That is a very important talk.
49:52 Speaker 06 I could talk about this all day, Kylie. I love it so much. Because I was a kid who had decent sex education growing up. And I also, we did a program called Lamo, which was learning about myself and others. And we did it sort of through like Girl Scouts and like different church groups and stuff. And I had a mom who lived through the 60s and 70s, okay? It was like, they were, it was free love. They were all, you know, it was women's liberation. And that meant birth control and the right to reproductive freedom. And, you know, all this like sense of yourself as a person who is going to be in intimate relationships.
50:34 Speaker 06 And I don't think we are doing, young people, we're doing so dirty by young people right now. We're teaching them none of this stuff. You may not need the Pythagorean theorem when you're older. You might not need to know, you know, like, the entire, like, chemical, like, your, your, the physics of space. But you are almost definitely, like, 99% of us are gonna have sex. You're gonna wanna be paired up with somebody. You're gonna want to have love and devotion and, and somebody who like props you up. We pair up, right? We're humans. We need each other. And by the way, we have to procreate or, or like it's over. So like, we need people to have sex.
51:18 Speaker 06 And we are giving young people zero tools right now. We are essentially saying porn exists on the internet. Have fun.
51:26 Speaker 06 That's what they're learning.
51:27 Kylie Kelce? A quick Google, figure it out.
51:29 Speaker 06 Quick Google, and we're not giving them any sense that of how important it is to create boundaries for yourself and what a healthy relationship looks like. You know, I know, I can tell you and Jason model such a beautiful relationship. You can just tell by the way you guys talk about your marriage and your family, which I'm so grateful for an example like you guys. And I, you know, in my life, my husband and I, we're very cognizant of like, our kids are watching everything, like what are we modeling? How are we doing it? What do we want them to take away? How do we want them to think about relationships and intimacy and love? And, but you actually also have to have those conversations.
52:14 Kylie Kelce? You want to raise them like you know, in parenthood, that you've come to what you liked that your parents did, what you didn't like that your parents did, what you liked that your friends have done for their kids, what your aunts did to your cousins, like all of those things, you've taken notes throughout your life, whether you realize it or not.
52:33 Speaker 06 Yes.
52:33 Kylie Kelce? And to open up the opportunity for conversations around those things that are just existing around them.
52:40 Speaker 06 Yeah.
52:40 Kylie Kelce? Gives them the opportunity for you to give feedback and for you to guide them in a way that as parents we're supposed to, like obviously they're going to be their own person, but we're supposed to help them along the way, just a little bit of guidance, keep them safe, help them feel loved and keep them on their path. It's crazy to me to not talk about, like just sex in general. I grew up in a very forward house, like it was lighthearted. My aunts would joke about it. We would be at like a family gathering, everyone's joking around about this and that, and that one's hot and I'm getting some ass tonight and they're talking about their spouses.
53:16 Speaker 06 Sex positivity, yeah.
53:17 Kylie Kelce? It's, it was the most like no pressure, laid back. I knew that I could ask my mom anything under the sun and that she would answer it honestly.
53:27 Speaker 06 Same.
53:28 Kylie Kelce? It was the best. At some point, I think I've mentioned this before on the podcast, but at some point I went to my mom, I think I was like 13 and I was like, Mom, I'm going to save myself from marriage. My mom, my mom looked at me and was like. You gotta test drive a car before you buy it. And I was like, got it. Thank you. And I was like, obviously, she wasn't saying it like 13, go out and do it. She was just saying like, I really respect that you think that that's what you're gonna do. But no one is going to shame you for choosing otherwise.
53:59 Speaker 06 No one grows up and says, I wish I didn't know about those things. Right? Like, you're starving for information. They want, and you want to be what I like to call their trusted adult. Right? You don't want that, I mean, they're gonna, and if I'm not your trusted adult, then do you have an aunt? Do you have a friend? Do you have a cousin? Do you have an uncle? Like, every kid needs a trusted adult where they can have these big, have their big questions answered and feel safe asking and not feel shamed.
54:30 Kylie Kelce? Yes. Now, the one thing that I have to ask you, our last question relates a little bit back to motherhood, because I like to ask all of my guests who are moms on the show, this question.
54:43 Kylie Kelce? What is the best piece of motherhood advice that you have ever received?
54:48 Speaker 06 I really think it has something to do with when kids ask a question,
54:58 Speaker 06 like honor where it's coming from. Like, I think dismissing kids is one of, it's just like the one of the worst things that you can do. I saw, this maybe isn't advice, but it was something that I witnessed that I promised myself I would never do. I was flying across the country on an airplane on July 4th. I was coming from Los Angeles to New York, so I was flying, you know, into the sunset and it was getting darker and darker. And suddenly, out the window, you could see fireworks, like the fireworks celebrations that were starting across the country. It was incredible. And this little girl was sitting in the seat in front of me. And she turned to her father, who was in the middle seat and said, Daddy, Daddy, I can see the fireworks down below.
55:39 Speaker 06 And he said, no, you can't. But we're too far away to see the fireworks. I don't know what you're talking about. And I thought, how could you just miss? Your little girl, first of all, you just told her her reality is not real. She's having like a magical moment as I was having.
55:58 Kylie Kelce? That literally makes me wanna cry.
56:00 Speaker 06 It made me wanna cry and it made me wanna murder him. I was like, you're the worst father I've ever fucking hurt. I was like, that is the worst thing I've ever heard. Like, I've heard men say bad things, but I was like, I, it took my breath away. I wanted to like, touch her and be like, I see what you see.
56:20 Kylie Kelce? That's where I would have been. That's where I have my, my lac and filter would have kicked in. I would have been like, no, I see those fireworks too.
56:28 Speaker 06 Childhood is for whimsy and magic. Okay. It's for innocence and whimsy and magic. You need to provide those things for your children because the world is going to take that away eventually. So give them the tooth fairy and give them the fireworks and give them their little dolls.
56:45 Kylie Kelce? Excited about it.
56:46 Speaker 06 Whatever it is, give them the music and the dancing and the love and the whimsy and the running through the field of flowers and the butterfly. And like, that's what childhood is meant for.
56:58 Kylie Kelce? That's so amazing because it could be the tiniest thing and it excites their soul or lights their fire in a way that if you can just acknowledge it. Well, thank you so much, Elizabeth, for coming on. I really appreciate it. You can go watch all of the episodes of The Miniature Wife out now on Peacock. And I have to say it again, just for good measure, go birds.
57:16 Speaker 06 Go birds.
57:19 Kylie Kelce? Thank you so much. And that's it for this episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Elizabeth on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow us on social media at @NGOWithKylie for clips throughout the week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Not Gonna Lie is a Wave original brought to you by Pull-Ups. Thanks again to the real ones for tuning in.
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