Behind the Scenes Minis: Dicey Sources

Tracy shares struggles that she encountered pulling together this edition of Unearthed. She and Holly have a tangential discussion about AI. See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 2:16Holly Frey?

  Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio.

• 2:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Hello and happy Friday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson.

• 2:30Holly Frey?

  And I'm Holly Frey.

• 2:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  We talked about Unearthed all week long this week.

• 2:35Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 2:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Which is pretty much just how Unearthed works now. I felt like I struggled a little bit pulling this one together.

• 2:44Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 2:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  For a number of reasons. One was that what I used to do, I would go through my whole bookmark manager of things I had bookmarked to potentially talk about in Unearthed. And I would go through them and as I found ones that were interesting, I would write them up into the episode. And over the years, I have shifted to, I go through all of those links in the bookmark manager and I make one file that's the stuff I'm pretty sure is going to make it into the episode. And I make another file that is maybe stuff to go into the episode. But I don't actually start typing anything up until I have made a whole pass of all of the bookmarks.

• 3:26Holly Frey?

  Gotcha.

• 3:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  As I was doing that this time, I was like, wow, I am making good time with this. I am going through them at a good clip. I am on task and doing well. And then when I went to step two, to turn this thing into like a more workable episode, I realized I had just miscategorized some stuff in my haste. The section that we had about smells, I thought was going to be longer than it was. I thought I had five or six things that were about smells. One of them, I had noted as being about a first century cologne. No,

• 4:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  it was about a dig of a first century site in the city of Cologne that had nothing to do with aroma.

• 4:18Holly Frey?

  I think that's a fair accident when you're quickly filing things.

• 4:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  Zipping through stuff.

• 4:23Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 4:23Tracy V. Wilson?

  A couple of the other ones, like just either turned out to be really confusing. One of them was something, like all of them turned out to be simultaneously under the umbrellas of smells and updates. And one of them was something, we actually really had talked about that exact thing before. It was not new information. So the smells section became short. I also, I have tried to be...

• 4:50Tracy V. Wilson?

  More aware of whether something that I'm reading might be generative AI.

• 4:56Holly Frey?

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Created. And that's been the case for a while. And this is the first time that I have cut stuff from the episode. Either because the AI disclosure, like there was an AI disclosure on the paper that made me go, oh, I don't. That was not okay. And then in one case, the entire conclusion. It was basically like, yeah, we, so we asked, we asked AI to write what the rules for this board game probably were. And I was like, that's, okay, I could, I could ask AI what the rules for the board game probably were. Um, so I cut that.

• 5:41Holly Frey?

  I'm trying not to climb on my AI soapbox and be really irritated.

• 5:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  I have. So there have been times on the show before the development of large language model chatbots.

• 5:54Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 5:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  Where we have talked about things that were connected to something under the umbrella of AI or machine learning.

• 6:03Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 6:04Tracy V. Wilson?

  And a lot of them have had to do with like, there was one that was like with the permission of the traditional owners, drones being sent into caves where there might be rock art. And an algorithm helping to detect rock art that the human eye might not be able to detect on its own.

• 6:25Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 6:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  And that being like the preliminary step for the researchers to then like, look at that and work with the traditional owners to interpret the artwork. There are like uses of machine learning that are cool and interesting. But then when you get into things that are like, and so we asked a chatbot what the rules for this game might have been. I was out. I was like, no, that's not, that's not what I'm here for.

• 6:55Holly Frey?

  I mean, here's my thing.

• 6:59Holly Frey?

  I don't love AI because of how much theft is done.

• 7:02Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 7:02Holly Frey?

  Even on a bigger issue, I hope you don't want your kids to have clean water. Like, it's just, AI is really environmentally a disaster.

• 7:12Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 7:12Holly Frey?

  And I know there are some companies in that space trying to figure out ways to mitigate it. But as they try to figure it out, a kajillion people asking ChatGPT for casserole recipes are doing so much damage. Like, I don't know that we'll ever catch up.

• 7:29Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 7:30Holly Frey?

  So I get very frustrated.

• 7:31Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, one of the things that I'm frustrated by, well, there's, there's the thing that is people either asking ChatGPT something that you also could have just put into a search engine. And there would have been a high quality first result you could have read for yourself. There's that.

• 7:50Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 7:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  There is the number of absolutely laughably wrong things that AI summaries of search results have presented me with. Being a person that plays video games, I have seen so many people show up in video game subreddits being like, I'm really confused about what to do. I asked AI and it said this and like what the AI has told them about the video game is flatly wrong.

• 8:17Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 8:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  And human beings wrote a whole walkthrough, so that's what you could have done. So like, all of that stuff is frustrating to me deeply. And like, these are not good uses of technology. They're not good uses of the resource behind the technology. But then the fact that everything that relates to machine learning and algorithms and that, like, it's all been lumped together under the umbrella of AI. So it's really hard to like, talk about any of these things.

• 8:49Holly Frey?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:49Tracy V. Wilson?

  In a way that makes sense. Because like, sometimes there are things that are not using, like, they don't have the electricity and water usage concerns that generative AI, large language models do. But because they are lumped under the umbrella of AI, like, people hear about them and immediately are upset. All of it is a mess.

• 9:14Holly Frey?

  It is. It is.

• 9:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  The fact that models have been trained on work that was protected by copyright, that's a big mess.

• 9:21Holly Frey?

  A problem.

• 9:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  The fact that so many things that we have to use in our daily lives now have an AI layer that we cannot turn off or get away from, I hate.

• 9:31Holly Frey?

  Yeah, same.

• 9:32Tracy V. Wilson?

  I like how we just definitely veered into the...

• 9:37Holly Frey?

  That's okay.

• 9:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  We didn't plan to have an AI conversation, but here we are.

• 9:40Holly Frey?

  Here we are. I have lots of art thoughts when you're ready.

• 9:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay. I have two other things I had noted down, and then we will get to art. The first is the descriptions of the vial that contained fecal matter and essential oils.

• 9:56Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 9:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  Gross, number one. But the articles that I read about them, I felt that a number of writers used adjectives that were unnecessary and just made reading about it grosser. And I was like, I didn't need that evocative additional word there. We could have just left that out.

• 10:19Holly Frey?

  Right.

• 10:19Tracy V. Wilson?

  So I just tried to write that as straightforwardly, but also non-grossly as possible.

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• 14:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Another reason that this became a difficult thing to work on is that for some reason, for the first time in years of working on this, I just forgot to look at all of my unearthed sources for like a month. I think it was maybe when we came back from the holidays. I did the, I wrote up the unearthed for the fourth quarter of 2025. And then my brain just kind of checked out on unearthed. And usually it is something that I look at at least once a week. And I gradually create this, you know, list of links over the course of the quarter. But I just, I, I don't know. I forgot about it for more than a month. And I came to it and I had hundreds of articles that had kind of backed up.

• 14:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  And in the course of going through them, I locked myself out of one of the websites that publishes things because I opened too many pages from them at the same time. And they thought I was a bot. So I've tried not to repeat that experience since that happened.

• 15:20Holly Frey?

  Heavens.

• 15:22Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yes. Do you want to talk about art?

• 15:25Holly Frey?

  I do. First, we're going to talk about a thing that's not really art, but kind of art, because you mentioned painting closets.

• 15:31Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 15:32Holly Frey?

  I used to be very like, why the heck would you ever paint a closet? And then I'm going to invoke our friend Lily once again.

• 15:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh, I love Lily.

• 15:41Holly Frey?

  I adore her. We're going on a trip later this year. I'm very excited. Um, when she got her house, you know, we all were kind of like house. Planning to purchases and buying around the same time, like she and several of our other friends. So there was a lot of painting at each other's houses. And she was very insistent that we paint the closets. And I was like, this is a wastio time. You know what? Those closets are beautiful. And like, when you look in them and one is like this beautiful raspberry color that has like gold trim on it. And it's the prettiest thing you've ever seen. And I'm like, oh, we should all be painting our closets anyway. If you have the energy.

• 16:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, so friends of ours bought a house and they, you know, had some, some painting parties. Friends came over and helped paint. And what I remember was like, I had painted. I had gone in slightly the wrong order. I had painted a bunch of walls that, that you would see if you opened the door to the closet. But then I realized, I was like, oh, but this up over here behind me, like that also needs to be painted. And I had to kind of contort myself into a weird way.

• 16:52Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 16:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  And also try not to get onto the paint that I had already painted.

• 16:59Holly Frey?

  Yeah, that's.

• 16:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  Cause I just had sort of neglected to think about this one part of the closet wall. But the process of painting the closet was also just sort of tedious and awkward enough that the idea of painting a room. I mean, it, it's totally possible that room had another purpose before it was used as storage. But the idea of painting like figurative elements and Cinnabar colored bars on the interior of the closet, I was like, nope, that sounds like a little too much for me.

• 17:33Holly Frey?

  Okay, now we have to talk about Salvador Dali.

• 17:35Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay, yeah.

• 17:36Holly Frey?

  Who I'll probably never do an episode on because I can't like. It's, it's too much. I love.

• 17:43Tracy V. Wilson?

  He's made a lot of unearthed appearances.

• 17:46Holly Frey?

  He has, he has. We did a really fun episode about him for Criminilia. This is not what I intended to talk about, but did you know that there was a Dali, an original Dali on Rikers Island for years?

• 17:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  I heard about this somewhere. It might have been from you.

• 18:03Holly Frey?

  It might have been me, that he had made this piece of art for the prison because he was supposed to do an appearance there for like their art program and he was sick that day. So he made them a piece of art. It ended up getting stolen. We don't, it's lost forever. We don't know where it is.

• 18:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:18Holly Frey?

  I have a weird follow up that is, I will tell you later because I've met someone who claims to know someone who was involved.

• 18:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:26Holly Frey?

  In the theft, even though they all got off. Anyway, here's what I want to talk about though. The scale of that painting.

• 18:34Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 18:34Holly Frey?

  That was acquired because one of the things, if you go to St. Petersburg, Florida and you don't go to the Dali Museum, whether you are a fan of his work or not, you're doing yourself a disservice.

• 18:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 18:46Holly Frey?

  For two reasons. One, I have always contended that if Dali were not as outgoing and flamboyant as he was, and he wanted to just keep his life on the DL, he could have been a completely rich art forger.

• 19:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:03Holly Frey?

  Because when he was young, one of the things he did to learn his skill and to learn technique was to make copies of famous pieces of work and they are good copies. Like.

• 19:15Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:16Holly Frey?

  He could whip, like we think about his work and it being, you know, his very surrealist stuff, but like this man could paint you a fake Cezanne and you wouldn't know the difference. He could paint you a Caravaggio and you wouldn't know the difference. But what really blows you away when you're in that space is the scale of some of his paintings, like hallucinogenic Torreador, which is my, possibly my favorite painting on the face of the planet.

• 19:37Tracy V. Wilson?

  Mm hmm.

• 19:38Holly Frey?

  Will just rock you back. It's so big and there's so much visually to take in that now I'm like, I gotta go. Are they gonna display the, cause they have to, cause I gotta go. I gotta go. And I'm trying to think of where they would put it because it's not an infinitely large museum. Like it's a good size, but I'm like, where do you even put something like that?

• 19:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 19:58Holly Frey?

  They'll figure it out. It'll be beautiful. I can't wait. The second thing I wanted to talk about.

• 20:05Holly Frey?

  Is that I'm really excited because I'm going back to Italy, not for a work trip, but with my best friend.

• 20:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:12Holly Frey?

  Because we're going through our art bucket lists.

• 20:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:15Holly Frey?

  Like the things we want to see in person before we are no longer on this planet or, you know, able to travel. And one of my big, most of this is her list because I have been more recently than her. But my big thing that I'm doing on this trip is I want to compare the Caravaggio Judas slaying Holofernes.

• 20:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Oh.

• 20:37Holly Frey?

  With the Gentileschi.

• 20:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:40Holly Frey?

  I mean, I have looked at the images before, but I want to see them in person.

• 20:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 20:45Holly Frey?

  You know, part of it is that like Gentileschi is like 20 years later than him. There's actually a slight familial connection between her father and Caravaggio. And she really, you know, took that concept of tenebrism and like went to a new level with it in some ways. But also, you know, he was a violent man, we know, very, very prone to outbursts of violence. But I kind of chuckle because his version of that, the women look a little almost timid about what they're doing. Whereas we know, because we did an episode on Artemisia Gentileschi, that like, there are actually two versions of that biblical story that she's painted. One is the beheading, one is the, the slaying.

• 21:30Holly Frey?

  Those are the two titles and they're in different places. I think I'm going to see the beheading. Hers, which we know was, it has been considered over the years as a kind of a protest piece of art and a way to work through her feelings about having been sexually assaulted.

• 21:48Holly Frey?

  Like those women are, one of the women is like kneeling on his chest, like it is visceral. And so I cannot.

• 21:54Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 21:54Holly Frey?

  Wait to see these two in person. That's just me wanting to talk about art.

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• 23:13Holly Frey?

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• 25:34Holly Frey?

  But here's the question I want to ask you.

• 25:36Tracy V. Wilson?

  Okay.

• 25:36Holly Frey?

  Because you also have some cool travel coming up.

• 25:39Tracy V. Wilson?

  Uh huh.

• 25:40Holly Frey?

  Are you gonna go see the Elgin Marbles at the British Museum while you're in London?

• 25:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't know. We, we have not planned anything other than, uh, we have plane tickets. We have a hotel for part of the stay because we are going because Patrick is gonna be at, uh, an event.

• 26:00Holly Frey?

  Hmm.

• 26:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  So that, like, that part of the hotel stay is purchased and the, our air travel is purchased. And once I bought plane tickets, I was like, all right, I got some other things that I need to work on right now. We will come back to planning this trip later. And I haven't decided what I want to do exactly yet.

• 26:26Tracy V. Wilson?

  So we'll see.

• 26:27Holly Frey?

  I mean, the British Museum is a great place to get lost for the day.

• 26:31Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 26:31Holly Frey?

  There's a lot of interesting stuff. You can go, you know, pay your respects to the ghost of Mike the Cat. You can.

• 26:39Holly Frey?

  I certainly have a list of interesting things that I like to do there. Are you gonna go see the dinosaurs?

• 26:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  I don't know what I'm gonna do. I haven't decided anything.

• 26:48Holly Frey?

  Oh, oh, cuz you'll have some time to yourself, right? While he's working at his event.

• 26:53Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, well, but the time that I have to myself, we won't be in London.

• 26:57Holly Frey?

  Ah.

• 26:59Tracy V. Wilson?

  So, yeah, yeah. We really need to sit down and like, look at things because, cuz I bought plane tickets and then was like, all right, we'll figure out all the other steps later and then we have not figured out other steps.

• 27:13Holly Frey?

  Meh, that's fair. I bought the plane tickets for our trip to Italy and then my best friend is handling most of the rest of it.

• 27:20Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 27:20Holly Frey?

  And I'm like, bless you, you beautiful creature, cuz I'm,

• 27:25Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 27:25Holly Frey?

  my brain cannot right now.

• 27:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, my trips outside of the United States, with the exception of our honeymoon, for the last decade have all been work trips. So there has not been a trip where we have left the country and, and I have needed to plan anything because Michael has been planning it and you and I have been hosting it based on the work of Michael and Michael's team.

• 27:54Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 27:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  And our honeymoon, Patrick basically planned it, but we also had, we went to Iceland and we had kind of a bucket list of things that we wanted to do while we were there, but then other than that, we did not plan things other than where we were staying each night and we just explored.

• 28:12Holly Frey?

  Kind of winged it?

• 28:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  As we winged it. Yeah, like we had our lodging arranged and we had some things we definitely wanted to do. And then we just like explored Iceland, which was a lot of fun.

• 28:22Holly Frey?

  You can do that in London, for sure. It's a ton of great places to eat.

• 28:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, we do need to figure out where we're staying. That's a thing that we should handle soon.

• 28:32Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 28:33Tracy V. Wilson?

  But yeah, I don't, I don't know the rest of it yet. We did make one trip to Canada in that we, we flew to Buffalo Niagara Airport to go elsewhere in New York. And because we were right there, we walked across the bridge into Canada and had lunch in Canada and then we came back.

• 28:55Tracy V. Wilson?

  With the rest of the way to where we're going in New York.

• 28:58Holly Frey?

  I can't wait to find out where all you end up going in London. I love that city so much.

• 29:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 29:04Holly Frey?

  There's so many great, great things to do there, just great places to hang.

• 29:08Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 29:08Holly Frey?

  Great cocktail culture, great, great fun. I've had great fun in that city.

• 29:13Tracy V. Wilson?

  We'll figure it all out.

• 29:14Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 29:16Tracy V. Wilson?

  You know, as long as the world is still happening.

• 29:20Holly Frey?

  Lets us go, lets us go. I will say I just flew.

• 29:27Holly Frey?

  We recently released an episode where we talked about the TSA and how easy it could be. And it was recorded, we put a note in front of that, that behind the scenes that we'd recorded it before the shutdown had ground everything to a halt and like

• 29:41Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 29:41Holly Frey?

  Atlanta was having four and five hour waits and whatnot. But I recently traveled for, we went away for my husband's birthday and we were like kind of white knuckling it because we didn't know if things would be righted by then.

• 29:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 29:57Holly Frey?

  We had a one minute wait at security. It worked out. We got so lucky.

• 30:01Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 30:02Holly Frey?

  So lucky. It was so easy for us that I almost felt bad. I had the early stage of it.

• 30:10Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 30:10Holly Frey?

  Where it was like a two hour wait, although I had a ticket that let me not do that, like I had a Sky Priority. So I

• 30:18Tracy V. Wilson?

  Right.

• 30:18Holly Frey?

  I was not too bad, but I saw the early stages and I can't imagine the long ones. So I'm, my hat is off and my heart goes out to anybody that had to wait in those lines.

• 30:28Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah, I had a trip that was similarly during the earlier stages. And it was, none of my issues had to do with TSA or

• 30:44Tracy V. Wilson?

  or wait times. Uh, there was a crew scheduling issue and so my flight there got canceled.

• 30:50Holly Frey?

  Yeah.

• 30:51Tracy V. Wilson?

  And then there was weather and my flight home got canceled.

• 30:54Holly Frey?

  It's just bad luck.

• 30:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  It was just, yeah, yeah. And I fortunately had enough loyalty points to get a free hotel for the night. Then I was stranded in Raleigh.

• 31:09Tracy V. Wilson?

  Anyway.

• 31:10Holly Frey?

  Wow.

• 31:11Tracy V. Wilson?

  Anyway.

• 31:12Holly Frey?

  Wait, the airline didn't put you up?

• 31:14Tracy V. Wilson?

  No, because it was weather.

• 31:16Holly Frey?

  Oh, all right.

• 31:17Tracy V. Wilson?

  They did compensate me for the canceled flight that was a staffing issue that was their fault.

• 31:23Holly Frey?

  Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. All right.

• 31:27Tracy V. Wilson?

  Anyway. Anyway. Whatever is happening on your weekend, I hope there are no canceled flights and no delayed flights and no long lines.

• 31:38Holly Frey?

  Of any kind.

• 31:40Tracy V. Wilson?

  That things are going as well as possible. We are

• 31:45Tracy V. Wilson?

  recording in the midst of just continual global chaos, but also the joy of spaceflight.

• 31:54Holly Frey?

  Thank you, Artemis Two Crew.

• 31:56Tracy V. Wilson?

  Yeah.

• 31:58Tracy V. Wilson?

  So, you know, I hope you're able to find some joy, have some good things going on.

• 32:03Tracy V. Wilson?

  We will be back on Monday with a brand new episode. You will also have a Saturday Classic tomorrow.

• 32:13Tracy V. Wilson?

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