Trump's Chicago Threat, Newsom's New Merch, Wes Moore vs National Guard & Snoop SLAMS Disney | PBD Podcast | Ep. 635

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick discuss Trump’s threat to politically take over Chicago, Gavin Newsom’s new merch rollout, Maryland Governor Wes Moore clashing over National Guard use, and Snoop Dogg slamming Disney for its woke movie agenda. ------ 💻 REGISTER FOR THE VAULT 2025 NETWORKING EVENT ON AUGUST 27TH: https://bit.ly/3JbJYSZ 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 📰 VTNEWS. AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 1:09Speaker 02

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here.

• 1:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one. I send you right there.

• 1:15Speaker 04

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 1:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, all right. Episode, what are we, 650? Is it 649 or 650?

• 1:27Speaker 05

  No, today is 635.

• 1:30Patrick Bet-David?

  635. You're living in the future, man. Back to the future. The future looks bright, buddy. So lots to cover. Hope you guys had a good weekend.

• 1:38Patrick Bet-David?

  We have Jelaine Maxwell, apparently the six-hour interview that she did with, what's his name? Terry Blanch was just released over the last couple of days. The July 24, 25th was released and there's a bunch of claims.

• 1:52Speaker 05

  Todd Blanch.

• 1:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Todd Blanch. What did I call him?

• 1:53Speaker 05

  Terry.

• 1:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Terry.

• 1:54Speaker 05

  Same potato.

• 1:55Patrick Bet-David?

  No, Todd Blanch. Todd Blanch.

• 1:58Patrick Bet-David?

  His middle name is Terry. Todd Wallace Blanch had the meeting.

• 2:01Speaker 05

  With his brother.

• 2:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. So, by the way, everyone's wondering. So what would she? So think about, this is like a six-hour podcast. What did she really reveal? Maybe she revealed something big. Maybe she revealed nothing. We'll talk about it today.

• 2:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Sergey Lavrov had a meeting with NBC. Kristen Walker. Yeah, Kristen Walker, which I thought was a very good interview as they're going back and forth. He just kept pushing back on, you know, claims that she was making. So you're telling me the attack, you are taking responsibility for it. Don't put words in my mouth. You're saying that. I did not say that. You're asking me and you're not listening to what I'm telling you. It was a very good interview. Federal Reserve minutes. Highlights splits over effects of Trump's tariffs on inflation. You have to hear this one part where Jerome Powell has to almost say that these tariffs have done little to no effect on the, what do you call it? Inflation. Inflation, yeah. Seventeen of our National Guard troops deploy in nineteen states for immigration.

• 2:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Baltimore is pissed. Chicago is pissed. A lot of these cities are like, don't come to us. But a lot of the people who are working in the streets are like, please come to us. There's even a man who's working in DC is like, look, I'm comfortable now. No crime, no, no one's been, no murders in DC for the last, what, ten or eleven days? Ten days. I think ten days now, eleven days now. It's great. Yeah, so something's working, folks. Something is working. Then you have tariff revenue will cut the US deficit by four trillion dollars over the next decade. Fiscal watchdog says, this is a Financial Times article. DC crime stats plummet during Trump's federal crackdown. Again, we'll talk about that. Political divide between young men and women fueling dating app distrust.

• 3:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Kamala Harris is apparently going on a hundred and seven day tour to promote her book. The invisible book tour. Yeah, the hundred and seven day tour to promote the book. She's more committed to promoting the book than becoming a president. Go figure that one out. Texas GOP passes House gerrymander Trump asked for, again, political article. It's titled that way, Trump administration to vet illegal immigrant applicants for anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism. Retirement age should be fifty-eight. Oh, I have a, such a strong opinion on that, on what retirement age should be. I know you do as well. Snoop Dogg takes his grandson to the movies. And they're wa, Snoop a Loop, yeah. He takes him to the movies and they're watching Lightyear. And a lesbian mom scene comes up.

• 4:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And then next thing you know, the two lesbian moms have a kid. And so the grandson asks Snoop, hey, grandpa, what's that all about? Huh. And you have to hear what Snoop said. Weird. He didn't have a reaction. By the way, the podcast host herself is trying to be diplomatic. While you could tell she has common sense in her and she has no clue what to say, right? They're all trying to, we, we need sponsorship money from this leftist organizations that give us money because we don't want to upset them. Uh, Rampage Jackson's son allegedly attacks wrestler. I don't know if it's allegedly, I mean, it's on video CNN. He got it. Allegedly, the guy got destroyed and he starts, you know, um, punching his face left and right, literally left and right. And then Rampage even reacted to it. Doesn't look good, not sure what's gonna happen, but didn't look good.

• 5:11Patrick Bet-David?

  U S officials confirms Pentagon planning National Guard deployment in Chicago. Mayor Johnson responds. J D Van schools NBC's Kristen Walker on Russia, Ukraine diplomacy. Like he's talking to a fifth grader, Zoran Mamdani fills that bench press. But folks, what do you bench press? Can you please comment below what you can bench 10 times? Can you just comment below what you can bench 10 times? I'm just curious. This is a terrible, like you're not Bobby Kennedy, buddy. If you don't know how to bench press, don't do it. He looks, he looks like he's never even held a bar. That was pretty bad. It's so embarrassing. How many times can you do 135? 135 me? Just 45. Maybe 20 times. Maybe 20 times. Maybe more. Yeah, no, you could do more. 20? I mean, I'm not. Vance reveals. I can do 21.

• 5:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Vance reveals Putin has conceded in Ukraine peace deal negotiations with Trump. And then, you know, Newsom, stat comes out saying Newsom's new publicity stunt has increased online following for him by 450%. Harry Enson says, Rob, let's get that clip ready as well. We'll definitely talk about that. And yesterday, you know, uh, one of, one of our girls, Mickey, she goes to sell her car. And it's so funny what happens to sell her car. It's such great, basic, simple advice for everybody. I'm gonna give it to you the moment we get into it on first offer, second offer, third offer. You won't believe what that process was like. It's just such a weird thing that a lot of regular people don't do anymore. They, they, they just go right after the first thing they get. Ah.

• 6:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Ah, it's a good thing I'm, I'm gonna go ahead and sell it. But anyways, let's get right into it. Couple of things, today's Monday, the 25th. This Wednesday, last chance, August 27th.

• 6:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna have a private tour of our entire facility here. By that day, the footsaw field may be done. You'll see the entire vision of what we're building. I was on a call with a friend of mine this morning. He sold a record-breaking card for $12.9 million. They bought it. They bought a card for $12.9 million. Him, O'Leary, and a couple others. They literally just bought it. He's out of the country. Rob and Conversation Ticket. I'm telling them what happens here on campus when people visit here. We want to show you the campus, especially those of you guys that are going to the Vault. So if you've already bought a ticket, great. Rob's gonna put the link here for you to go register. If you bought a ticket, you get to bring a guest with you just to see the tour. Some of you guys are gonna be able to get on private jets and actually see what a private jet's like. And some of you guys are gonna see some exotic cars. And I'm not just talking about some regular cars.

• 7:32Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm talking some very weird-looking cars that cost a couple million dollars. That'll be this Wednesday. If you haven't yet bought your ticket, we are literally two weeks away from the Vault Conference. This is when all of a sudden, everybody starts buying the tickets and, "Oh, my God, I gotta get the ticket. I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go." Which is great, but this is causing tickets to sell out as well. If you're somebody that hasn't yet purchased your ticket, go to thevaultconference.com. Thevaultconference.com, Rob, can you put the link below? Thevaultconference.com. If we have a QR code for them to go there as well. Get yourself a ticket. Generals will be able to network with around 400, 500 people. Plentons and executives will get a tour by a couple of our associates.

• 8:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Anybody that's got a founder or COO ticket, I'm gonna be giving you a tour of the entire facility. Excited to see everybody here. We're gonna have some hors d'oeuvres, some food. You know, it's gonna be some... You'll see stuff before a lot of other people will see it. So again, if you're in South Florida or surrounding... People are traveling from, you know, from other countries here to just come for this. But if you haven't yet, go to thevaultconference.com, get your ticket, and go register with the link below, add a guest. We'll see you here in 48 hours. Okay, so let's talk about what happened this weekend. Some basic, simple advice for everybody. So you know who Mickey is, right? We all love Mickey.

• 8:47Speaker 06

  I love her.

• 8:48Patrick Bet-David?

  She's trying to buy a new car, okay? And she goes out there to sell her car at the first place that she goes to. Toyota. She's gonna do an exchange. "I'm trying to buy this car, 4Runner, and yeah, we'll take your car. How much you guys willing to give for my car?" $1,400 bucks. How much? $1,400 bucks. Wow. It's like, "Yeah, it's really only worth $1,400." She's like, "Man, maybe it's only worth $1,400."

• 9:11Patrick Bet-David?

  She leaves, she said, "What should we do?" "Why don't you go to Carvana, see what they do." Goes to Carvana. Carvana offers $4,000. And then she comes back, she says, "They offer $4,000, that's awesome, should I take it?" Like, "Well, we did one of our stuff with Suburban. Go try Carmex, you know, Suburban with Carmex." So she said, "Oh, let me go to Carmex." Goes to Carmex, $5,500. So she went from Toyota 1400 to Carvana $4,000, to Carmex $5,500. And this is not even brought to you by Carmex, but this is like the biggest commercial for them, right? To go to a place like that. What's the point? Take three offers when you're trying to sell something. Don't jump on the first one. She went and got her $5,500, went and bought a brand-new Toyota 4Runner for herself. She's super happy.

• 9:54Patrick Bet-David?

  It's amazing how many people right after, "Oh, my God, this is good, do it, you know, I'm gonna take it." No, pump the brakes. Don't be that in a hurry to buy a car. I was telling Jenna and Mickey this morning, you know, sometimes when people see us and they're selling us something like, "Oh, Pat can't afford it, sell him more." Yeah, ask him for more. They don't realize. First of all, I'm Armenian, and I'm Assyrian, and I'm born and raised in Iran, and I sit next to him. And, and, you know, and I've been in financial services my entire life. You, you know, when you make money yourself, do you know how careful you are? Now, your radars are always up to know that people are like, "Oh, he can pay more for all this other stuff." So anyways, food for thought. This is not a story. This isn't anything.

• 10:37Patrick Bet-David?

  This is just for the right 82 people that are listening to this that are saying, "You know what? I gotta go to three places before I sell my car." That's all I'm telling you, okay?

• 10:44Adam Sosnick?

  Well, I'm glad that I'm rubbing off on you in the right ways, PBD.

• 10:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, dude, that was such a great opening for me, but kids are watching this. Kids are watching this and we're just gonna stick to G.

• 10:56Adam Sosnick?

  No, go for it.

• 10:57Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm not going for it, buddy. That was a little too easy. But cameras are on. All right, let's get into the story. First story, we want to start off with Rob. What's the, what's the first story we got to go with? What was the, what did the audience ask for?

• 11:09Speaker 05

  New York City and Chicago takeover by Donald Trump.

• 11:11Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so, so let's go through the whole, uh, um, the, what do you call it? Um, uh, National Guard, stories of what's going on. All right, 1,700 National Guard troops to deploy in 19 states for immigration. Okay? 1,700 deploy National Guard in 17, in 19 states. And this is a Fox News story. So, including Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming, to assist the Department of Homeland Security with President Trump's nationwide crackdown on illegal immigration and crime, with Texas projected to host the most significant guard presence.

• 11:54Patrick Bet-David?

  The service members with support will support ICE by performing case management, transportation, logistical support, clerical functions, which may include personal data collection, fingerprinting, DNA swabbing, and photographing of personnel in ICE custody at a US Defense official stated National Guard soldiers. Being mobilized will effectively serve as a support pillar to a sweeping federal inter-agency effort while also serving as a visible deterrent force. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 12:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, this is great. You know, DC last week, we didn't cover it, but there was a little story that slipped out last week of why this is good. They said that, under pressure, political pressure, but they didn't say who, they didn't say what, they had actually been fudging crime stats in Washington DC. Can you believe that, Benny? That the police department, there was two stories I saw, that they were actually fudging crime stats. So it was probably, it was probably worse. These were people that were part of the police union that had since retired that said, yeah, we had been asked to move these stats, we've been moving these stats. The crime in DC was actually worse than reported.

• 13:10Speaker 05

  Yes, this is the Washington Police Commissioner Greg Pemberton talking about the manipulated stats.

• 13:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's hear it.

• 13:18Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, this is it.

• 13:20Speaker 09

  Absolutely, that's one of the chief complaints of our members when we go around and talk to them, is that they respond to the scenes of these violent crimes, and inevitably, you'll have a captain, or a commander, or sometimes a lieutenant show up on the scene and advise them to take a report for a lesser offense. One of the things that we see them do often is sometimes there'll be a shooting or a stabbing, and if the victim is uncooperative with the police, which is not uncommon in some areas of the city, they'll be directed to take an injured person to the hospital report, which is not even a crime at all, it's an incident report. Sometimes you'll have a robbery, it'll be reported as a theft.

• 13:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's right.

• 13:57Speaker 09

  Other times you'll have burglaries that are reported as unlawful entry or thefts. This is something that's been unfortunately part and parcel of the police department for some time and we're very skeptical that these crime stats are accurate.

• 14:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom. There you go. There you go. This is the guy who's with the union trying to help the cops have good jobs and you have a lieutenant or someone goes on the scene. This isn't a shooting. This is just an injured person. You know what an injured person is, Vinnie? I looked it up. What? An injured person report could be this. A crackhead, let's just say unfortunately, is out there and he falls, he goes knocks on someone's porch, he's panhandling for money. He falls down the stairs and he's unconscious on the sidewalk. Okay. You know, this is not farfetched. Yeah. That's an injured person incident. Instead, they take a shooting and turn it into injured person because it affects the stats. It's almost like, Tom.

• 14:51Tom Ellsworth?

  So guess what? Not only is the National Guard needed in these cities, these blue cities, and these blue cities are trying to sound less blue, but the National Guard is actually helping. And there were clips over the weekend of like people that are doing summer jobs, selling stuff on the street. They were selling Gatorade and water and everything. They bought these big bag full of it at Costco, selling it $2 a bottle to tourists that were walking around, going to see the monuments and stuff in DC. And they asked them what they thought about it and they were like, "Well, you know, I think, I think it's pretty good." You know, "Some of the police were just kinda, kinda casual about things. I think this is good. Makes me feel better."

• 15:33Tom Ellsworth?

  And so, this, this is Trump, you know, doing exactly what a leader should do to address a problem. And instead, you have the Dems that don't care about what's going on in their cities, in my opinion.

• 15:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so by the way, while this is going on in San Francisco, I don't know if you saw what happened with Adrian Guerrero. I watched the video this morning. So there's this guy Adrian Guerrero, who knows if it's a guy or a girl, they're saying female, male, I don't know the, the, what the individual is, whether they're male or female. The name is Adrian Guerrero. He goes up, pulls up to them, and this is what he's telling to ICE. This is just a video is disturbing to watch. He starts screaming at the ICE agents, okay? Saying, "I'm gonna F you up." He also threatened to go after them and their family, going to stab you during the attack by ant- uh, fifteen anti ICE riders who used pepper spray and punched officers. Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, our brave ICE law enforcement are now facing a thousand

• 16:28Patrick Bet-David?

  percent increase in assaults against them as they risk their lives to arrest the worst of the worst criminals. These acts of violence are fueled by sanctuary politicians, rhetoric vilifying our law enforcement. This follows a July incident where ten armed assailant, uh, assailants in tactical gear opened fire on ICE agents near Dallas. All were charged with attempted murder. And if you look at this, this is the, uh, black knife that he had, that's Adrian Guerrero. Who knows, again, I don't know if it's a guy or a girl. Does he refer by he or she? Can you look at that? So, cause Fox referred him by she. Okay.

• 17:04Tom Ellsworth?

  He threatened going after your family.

• 17:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so now watch the bottom one, the Pam Bondi tweet. Can you go to the, uh, below the tweet?

• 17:11Tom Ellsworth?

  He's wearing the terrorist rag.

• 17:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Right there. Watch this. Click on that picture, Rob. Okay? We are now, we've now made a total of six hundred and thirty arrests and seized eighty-six illegal guns in DC. Fifty-three arrests were made, uh, yesterday, plus twenty-four ICE arrests and ten guns taken off the streets. Our incredible US Marshals even helped recover a missing child. Our mission to make DC safe again isn't slowing down. Go a little bit lower on the, uh, data, right there. Six hundred and thirty arrests, August twenty-first, eighty-six gun seized, top.

• 17:42Tom Ellsworth?

  And additionally, we have statistics that came out over the weekend that we are now entering our ninth and now tenth day in DC without a murder. And guess what's happening to the police officers? Vinny? What? Guess what? What? The regular police officers have increased the energy that they show on their patrols. You know why? They're not walking around casual anymore. You know why? Because there's leadership there and the gig is up with the, um, false statistics. So the police that are on duty there are now actively doing their job, not just sort of hanging out and let DC happen around you. It's all around good. This is leadership by the president.

• 18:22Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, here's what Wes Moore-

• 18:23Tom Ellsworth?

  And it's a proof point. It's now a case study.

• 18:24Patrick Bet-David?

  This is what Wes Moore said. I don't know, Rob, if you have that clip. Wes Moore responded to the president saying, "Keep our city's name out of your mouth." Kind of like a Will Smith moment. Is this it, Rob, or is that a different one? I have a different one. I can play this and find that clip. Is that about the, uh? This is about sending the National Guard to- To Baltimore? Yep. Go for it.

• 18:43Speaker 10

  Are you so opposed to this deployment?

• 18:47Speaker 11

  Well, there's a, there's plenty of reasons. Uh, you know, one, it is not sustainable. You cannot continue this type of pace of operations, particularly when you're, when it's costing over a million dollars a day in order to do this. The second, it's not scalable. You're not going to be able to do this in every single major American city, particularly when many of the cities that have the highest crime rates are the places that have actually deployed their National Guards to Washington DC. So who's going to, who's going to go do the work in their cities? The third, it's unconstitutional. It's a direct violation of the 10th Amendment. And if for, for a party that talks about state rights, it's amazing how they're having such a big government approach in the way they're conducting public safety. The, the, the fourth reason is because it's deeply disrespectful to the members of the National Guard. You know, as someone who actually deployed overseas and served my country in combat, to ask these men and women

• 19:33Speaker 11

  to do a job that they're not trained for is just deeply disrespectful.

• 19:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 11

  And so when we're thinking about all of these lasting factors, when we're thinking about the fact that it serves as a distraction from the fact that the president's disastrous economic policies are making everything more expensive for everyday Americans and making life harder for everyday Americans, there's a multitude of reasons that I am against this and I will not authorize the Maryland National Guard to be utilized for this.

• 19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I have two quick questions and I yield the floor. Question number one, how many times did he mention the stats in Baltimore? How many times? Zero. Second, how many times did he mention protecting the citizens of Baltimore?

• 20:07Speaker 06

  Zero.

• 20:08Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm done.

• 20:08Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 20:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, by the way, what they're saying right now, Tom, they are giving stats. And what they're saying is the fact that crime in Baltimore is down year over year. Crime in DC is down year over year and crime in Chicago is down year over year. Now, keep this in mind, this is the data that's being reported, so who knows?

• 20:24Speaker 06

  Who knows?

• 20:25Patrick Bet-David?

  What they're comparing you to, like going back to the data you were talking about earlier.

• 20:28Tom Ellsworth?

  The DC stats were debunked.

• 20:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, so, so it's not, their argument is it's working. What we're doing is working, leave us alone, we got it. But the people are not agreeing with them. The people are saying, no, man, National Guard, come over here, please, we need you. Vinny, your thoughts?

• 20:41Speaker 06

  I, I, I think it's, it's ridiculous. Him, you know, mayor of Baltimore, uh, mayor of, you know, New York had their problems. And then the mayor of, of Chicago, and mind you, but I'm gonna say this, Tom, I don't want the National Guard deployed anywhere. I don't, this, I don't want government overreach, nobody, like any sane person. I don't want the National Guard in these major cities, but you know what? This goes on the mayor, this goes on the governor.

• 21:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Right.

• 21:06Speaker 06

  Maintain your, your freaking state, you idiot.

• 21:09Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, let cities don't need it.

• 21:10Speaker 06

  No, I'm being dead serious, I don't, and the worst out of all of them is, is Chicago. The nightmare under Brandon Johnson, all my Chicago folks, all the serians in Chicago, you guys know what I'm talking about? In 2024 alone, 581 homicides, and you're right, Pat, when they're talking about the numbers, it's still almost 600 people dead. 2,600 shootings, there's more mass murders happening every freaking weekend in Chicago, the numbers are crazy. All the robberies, 1,600 carjacking, it's a war zone. They call it Shirek for a reason, all right? And he told us the money, he thought, by the way, this is the guy that should be giving money to fund the police. He had $600 million so far, went to illegals and that there, uh, $70 million in new property taxes to pay for that crap.

• 21:52Speaker 06

  All right, and meanwhile, his, his, his, uh, approval rating, 6.6%, pathetic, okay? And then he announced, Pat, Chicago will refuse to work with ICE. And this is him basically saying, like, uh, rise up to the citizens, which is, to me, is a call to action uh, about all the, uh, National Guard, Rob, play this clip.

• 22:13Speaker 12

  And so, you know, look, we're gonna remain firm, we'll take legal action. But the people of this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny.

• 22:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 22:22Speaker 12

  And if that's necessary, I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm alongside of me as I work every single day to protect the people of this city.

• 22:31Speaker 06

  And as a Chicago-

• 22:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Did he do a Bill Clinton rap?

• 22:34Speaker 06

  What'd he do?

• 22:35Patrick Bet-David?

  For second thing, he's, but go back about 10 seconds. Look, watch the two times, three times, right there, that's the perfect, watch this.

• 22:42Speaker 12

  Against tyranny. And if that's necessary, I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm alongside of me as I work every single day to protect the people of this city.

• 22:53Speaker 06

  But like, literally, in my opinion, the worst mayor, and this is, this is like going up against Karen Bass and everybody. He is the worst, uh, mayor, uh, and just in 2021, they had 797 homicides. The entire, he has more deaths in Chicago than Canada and UK combined. And forget about Lori Lightfoot.

• 23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's 2021.

• 23:15Speaker 06

  Lori Lightfoot. I'm going, I'm-

• 23:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You're going back.

• 23:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, I'm going back.

• 23:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know where he's at under him right now?

• 23:20Speaker 06

  What?

• 23:20Patrick Bet-David?

  So 23, they were at, so it went from 700, right there, that's the one. So 2020 was 779, 2021 goes to 805, 2022 goes to 715. Then 2023, 621, then 581. So what they're saying is, it is declining. So their argument is, leave us alone, we are figuring it out, right?

• 23:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  The same thing they're saying with Baltimore, went from 263 in 23 to 224. The same thing with DC, went from 274 in 23 to 187 in 24.

• 23:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 23:53Patrick Bet-David?

  And these are reports, these are deadly, uh, uh, uh, the, what they're measuring here is violent crime, including homicide, robberies, carjacking, has fallen to its lowest in 30 years.

• 24:03Speaker 06

  Well, good.

• 24:04Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what they're saying according to DOJ, right? However, this is the part they're not saying. What they're not saying is, it is higher than any other city in America.

• 24:11Speaker 06

  Period. Yeah.

• 24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So you're sitting there saying, well, give it a break, man. We're making so much progress.

• 24:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you're still some of the most dangerous cities in America and you can't get it together? And we gotta find a way to get even safer, period.

• 24:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:26Patrick Bet-David?

  And if the president wants to do that- He's gonna clean up town now. The locals, what are people saying, Rob? If you can find a clip of that one boy that's walking around in DC saying, "How does it feel not being out?" I don't know if you have that clip or not. Go ahead, Adam. Your thoughts on this?

• 24:40Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah, well, the reality is, American cities are unsafe. We see it all the time. Vinnie brought up Shirek. Anytime that you're comparing an American city, a great American city, like Chicago, to Baghdad, Iraq, you might have a problem in some of your cities.

• 24:56Patrick Bet-David?

  And they brag about it, Adam. They brag about it.

• 24:57Adam Sosnick?

  And Chicago's not even the worst. Memphis, Detroit, Baltimore, Philly, DC, New Orleans, you know, Fort... I don't know, sometimes I hear some stories. But a lot of our American cities are unsafe. So, Trump deploying the National Guard. I'm trying to see the downside from this. So, it reminds me of like a story of, you know, the joke with NATO, how like daddy's gonna take over. This is sort of a weird story. So, my friends back in the day were in like middle school, and we were home alone with all our buddies all day. And our friend's mom was kind of, "Do whatever you want, boys. Do whatever. But wait till dad gets home, and you're gonna, you're gonna see what's

• 25:40Adam Sosnick?

  going on." We decide to put on our own version of the WWE. We all picked our different wrestlers and combatants. You would have been the Iron Sheik. I'm doing the Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Junkyard Dog, Superfly Jimmy Snuka off the top ropes. It's chaos in the living room. Pillows, fights, food fights, just absolute WrestleMania. The place is absolute crazy. All of a sudden, ding dong, dad shows up. We freak out. We all run through the hills, cuz we understood, when dad came home, there was gonna be hell to pay. What's happening here is these cities have been run amok by single mothers, so to speak, and daddy's

• 26:23Adam Sosnick?

  home, Trump called the National Guard, and he's cleaning up the streets. So, what's wrong? You don't want less murder? You don't want less crime? You don't want less rape? What's the downside? The political perception of law and order being brought to your city? To me, as long as you clean up these American cities that are held hostage by literal gang members and gun violence, I see no problem.

• 26:46Speaker 06

  But Pat, can we play devil's advocate for a second? Like, you know, I mentioned a little bit, I don't want them. I don't want the National Guard deployed in these cities, okay? And like, obviously, it's their fault, meaning these Democrat horribly run cities. How long are they gonna say, Adam, because you know what? This is how it happens, Tom. They bring them in, they go, hey, we're doing it because these people aren't doing it right. At what point, like, you think they're just gonna pack up and leave? Because you know what's gonna happen? People are gonna get used to it, Tommy, and they're gonna be like, you know what? I'm kinda cool with the surveillance. I'm kinda cool with this. And then it becomes a freaking police state. So I'm playing, I'm pissed off that the Democrats let it go that far, Pat? At the same token, I don't want the National Guard. Because then who's to say they go like this? Florida's gonna go, you know what?

• 27:30Speaker 06

  Like you mentioned, it's not that bad in Fort Lauderdale, but you know what? Give us 20 National Guard homers, Pat, and let them patrol the streets. There's a very...

• 27:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you're making a very, I like that you're being reasoning. I like that you're looking at both sides. I like that you're doing because that allows us to see both sides. Here's a message from, uh, this is Seattle, a woman, a homeless, Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Watch what happens in you. Homeless woman breaks down crying as she pleads for help in Seattle.

• 27:59Speaker 13

  I think it's necessary for President Trump to help cities in America by bringing the National Guard troops in for extra backup.

• 28:05Speaker 14

  Absolutely. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. We need it. Come help us.

• 28:11Speaker 13

  Please, we really need it here in Seattle.

• 28:16Speaker 14

  Seattle used to be a pretty city. It used to be a nice place, but now it's not. Everything's closing up, shutting down because people just had it.

• 28:23Speaker 13

  I don't feel safe by myself. I'm scared a lot. I have to keep my phone in my hand because I don't know what's gonna happen.

• 28:31Speaker 14

  Yeah. The day the smoke shop right here got robbed. Yeah, and I don't think there's as much business that there used to be.

• 28:38Speaker 13

  Because people are afraid to come.

• 28:39Speaker 14

  Yeah, absolutely. People don't wanna spend their money when they fear walking to the store.

• 28:46Speaker 13

  I wouldn't bring my kids down here. I have to get a babysitter if I go to the smoke shop.

• 28:51Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, this is coming from... I don't think she's, I think she's just there to...

• 28:55Speaker 14

  Make our city, make our city safe again. He could do it.

• 28:59Speaker 13

  I know he has the power, you know.

• 29:01Patrick Bet-David?

  So you see this, it's a five minute clip, I don't want to get into it. Now, there's the opposite of this. Rob, play the other clip of the National Guard Humvees driving around and this man is yelling at them. "Don't let them do this to you." "Man just now yelled at National Guard Patrol in Washington DC. These are your own citizens. These are homeless people." Uh, watch this one here. This is a very, very different reaction than what you just saw.

• 29:25Speaker 04

  (mumbling) "These are your own fucking citizens. These are homeless people. You guys are fucking criminals. Don't let them do this to you." "It's abusive to you and now you're gonna get fucked. When you're fucked up, you have to go to the VA and they cut all your services." "Confused now. Do not do this. You have an obligation to refuse unlawful orders, okay?"

• 29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  So whether this is a... Do not... But...

• 29:55Speaker 06

  You're accused of lawful order and then go to jail.

• 29:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Do not do what? Yeah, do not do this. Like, don't go patrol, leave it alone. Uh, uh... Don't clean up the streets? If you're not gonna, if you're not gonna do it yourself, you know, if you're not gonna do it yourself, they're not gonna do it. You know, they're just not gonna do it. The reality is, it comes down on the individual, uh, on the, uh, the leader at the top, the president, was like, "Look, I'm gonna expose you. You can say whatever you want. Pritzker is not happy. You think this is a good look for the governors of these states?" Like, Wes Moore is trying to run for president. Yup. Okay, Pritzker is trying to run for president. And Gavin Newsom is trying to run for president, okay? Gavin Newsom is trying to run for president. Sure. And you can tell when you see these guys, they themselves are,

• 30:42Patrick Bet-David?

  you know, around 2028. And Newsom, I wanna go through some of the stuff that he's done, but prior to even doing this, I wanna get into one other thing, Rob, if we haven't done it. Rob, can you pull up the website again? So Vault Conference, one more time, guys. Vault Conference this year is brought to you by Goliath Ventures. Again, if you haven't yet registered, Martha Stewart, Tony Robbins, David Falk, myself, two and a half days is what we're talking about here. And this, the spot... Sponsor of all conference again Goliath Ventures is the title sponsor of all conference. If you haven't yet gotten yourself a ticket and registered for it. Go to the vault conference.com get your ticket. It's the one senior meeting where we all get together.

• 31:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Similar values, similar principles, strategies, 296 page manual. We go through over three and a half days. Get registered, we are two weeks away from the event. And again, the event is brought to you by Goliath Ventures. Let me get back to the story here. So as we're talking about this, you see Newsom completely changed the way he's campaigning. Completely changed the way that he's campaigning. Rob, can you go to his Twitter account first? Let's kind of go through his Twitter account. And by the way, believe it or not, this is helping him. It's bringing eyeballs to his Twitter account. It's not like it's not working. So he's put this up there saying the Patriot shop is now open. Look at the hats that he's got. It's literally everything that Trump does. He copied Newsom was right about everything that's Trump said that he was wearing just last week.

• 32:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Trump is not hot, a real patriot. Newsom 2026, even though he's not running in 2026, he's talking about the midterms. Go a little bit lower, one by one by one. He's taking shots at everybody. Okay. One by one by one. He said, we just sold a hundred thousand dollars worth of material. This is what Donald Trump was what? What does he say? Donald Trump was president during the last census. Okay, so he's talking about the census. Every chance he gets, whether it's him, his team, or somebody doing it is calling him out. So the question becomes, is it working? Is it not working? Here's what Harry Enton has to say with data. And by the way, we report whether we like the news or not, we're reporting it for you. So go ahead and play this clip.

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• 33:47Speaker 15

  Get this. Up 450% in terms of the number of followers since mid-June. And it's not just on Twitter. X, where Newsom is gaining, even on TikTok and Instagram. His followers are up over a million since January alone. My goodness gracious. And more than that, Laura, more than that. What about Google? What about those Google searches for? Get this daily Google searches for Gavin Newsom. Up like a rocket. What are we talking about? Since June 1, up 1,300% compared to August 1. Look at that, up 500%. So the bottom line is in politics, especially if you're thinking of entering in 2028, it's all about generating attention. And so far Gavin Newsom has done a good job of generating attention. The Democrats want it. Do Democrats want it? Okay.

• 34:28Speaker 06

  Do Democrats want it? Of course they do.

• 34:30Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you mean?

• 34:31Speaker 06

  Like, do Democrats want it? Do they want a Gavin Newsom? Yeah, because they're freaking stupid. Look at.

• 34:37Patrick Bet-David?

  They're not stupid, Vinnie. They're not, we don't need to. We have friends that are Democrats. We have friends that are. What they are is, they, okay.

• 34:45Speaker 06

  If they keep voting for these people.

• 34:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but we can't call them stupid. Like, we can't tell people they're stupid. Like, there are people that are born in a certain way and they become Democrats. Okay? You know, like, I'm sitting there right now and I'm watching this video, Vinnie, which is about parenting. And I'm gonna play the clip here in a few minutes. I didn't even find a way to go to it. I just wanna make sure we're not going out there calling all these guys dumb, stupid, all this other stuff. I had a girl in my office one time. She's the spouse of one of our guys, ex-spouse of one of our guys. And we're sitting there and I'm asking her. She's a diehard AOC person. This lady can't stand me. She does not like me at all. Okay? Everything that happened, she's pushing the guy away from me. Okay? So I said, let me ask you, when you were in school.

• 35:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Were you a English person, literature person? Or were you a science person? Were you a math person? I hated math. Really? What did you like? I love English and I love journalism. I like writing. Fantastic. What else did you like? Did you like chemistry? Did you like physics? Hated it. What did you like? Like I told you, writing is what I like. English is what I like. Okay. I watched this video that's talking about parenting. I learned, whether we like it or not, people are born a certain way. Some people are more cutthroat. Some people are more logical. Some people are more emotional. Okay? They're not stupid. They're born that way.

• 36:16Patrick Bet-David?

  I've come to the conclusion. Trust me, they're not stupid. You are born that way. I run an insurance company. I'm watching everybody. We come out with announcements. It's the right announcement. But somebody says, "That's not fair to those people." "That's not fair to that person." And typically, the "that's not fair" was to the people that are not working the hardest and they're just kind of wanting everything to be easy. So it is not a stupid thing. Believe it or not, we're trying to force these people to change. They're emotionally more caught up by the feeling. The question I got for you is, do you think the approach he's taking? Newsom, Vinny?

• 36:53Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 36:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Thousand percent up, June. Five hundred percent up, August. Four hundred fifty percent up, activity on social media. Do you think this is gonna work for him to be the leading candidate for 2028?

• 37:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:09Patrick Bet-David?

  You think he's going to?

• 37:10Speaker 06

  Because I called it that he's going to be the frontrunner for the 2028. I don't think, I know Tom's JB Pritzker with the money and the, and I get that. And you know what? And you're actually right. I don't think that they're stupid. What's the word, Pat? If it's your, if you're just blind, loyal to the party? Meaning, and you're right. You're right about what, I don't think that they're all stupid. I take that back. What do you call a person that is just loyal to the party but sees the crime, the border, the lying? They know exactly who he is, but they're still gonna vote for this guy? Because it's- Not the other side. What would you call them? You know what I mean? Instead of stupid.

• 37:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 37:46Speaker 06

  What do you call somebody that knows that the ship is sinking? And they're still gonna jump on the ship? Because the ship has their name on it, has their group's name.

• 37:54Patrick Bet-David?

  This is, this is what I've learned. My, this is what I've learned, and Tom, I'm gonna come to you. Because there's a lot of other clips that, Rob, can you find a couple of the clips from Newsom? The old mayor interview when he didn't want to talk about anything, or?

• 38:07Speaker 06

  He walked away.

• 38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, there's a couple of clips I'll show you about Newsom that's just embarrassing. And it's so old, I don't even know who sent it yesterday. Was it Humberto?

• 38:15Speaker 06

  It was me.

• 38:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You sent, what a great clip you sent.

• 38:17Tom Ellsworth?

  This is when he was mayor.

• 38:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so there's a couple of them. There's three clips. There's a debate moment, there's that clip. We have to see. But you know, Vinnie, this is what it is. This is what it is. Do you think there are people? That if we get the worst Republican candidate ever? Criminal, terrible guy, horrible human being, they're still gonna vote Republican?

• 38:38Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes. What percentage?

• 38:42Speaker 06

  Ninety percent.

• 38:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Of the Repub- of the current Republicans?

• 38:45Speaker 06

  Like, are gonna vote for somebody?

• 38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  What do you think, Tom? What would you say?

• 38:48Tom Ellsworth?

  So, people that are dyed in the wool that don't cross?

• 38:51Patrick Bet-David?

  No matter what, they're gonna vote Republican, and no matter what, they're gonna vote Democrat?

• 38:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Um, my understanding is that it's, that there's twenty-four percent on the GOP side, and about twenty-seven percent of the total voting on the Dem side, that will stay red or blue no matter what.

• 39:06Patrick Bet-David?

  No, so that's a no matter what, right? So, you know what conclusion I've come up with?

• 39:11Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what you're asking.

• 39:11Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what I'm asking. The conclusion, I actually put it at forty, forty-four, okay, give or take.

• 39:16Tom Ellsworth?

  That's party affiliation, but you're asking me for the no matter what?

• 39:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, so you're right, and let's qualify both.

• 39:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay, that's.

• 39:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Party affiliation, forty Republican no matter what, forty-four Democrat no matter what, okay?

• 39:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  So, when you, when you look at these two things, and, and, and you say, well, what's wrong with you? What's this? What's that? I'm telling you, I'm gonna show you this clip by this doctor that's gonna break you down. You're trying to change people. You can't. You're not gonna change this forty. You're not gonna change this forty-four. They're going to drive you insane. The only, if you truly wanna make change in the world, and, and, and it's taken me

• 39:56Patrick Bet-David?

  forty-six years old, having worked with so many different personalities, you're literally only dealing with

• 40:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Fifteen to twenty percent of people.

• 40:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 40:07Patrick Bet-David?

  That you're talking to. Everybody else, it doesn't matter what you say, you're not changing them.

• 40:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 40:13Patrick Bet-David?

  You're dealing with fifteen to twenty percent of people. The forty and forty-four percent that ever change on both sides, it's because someone offended them, somebody from their party, their own party let them down. Like if you're seeing right now hardcore conservative, pro Zionist, pro Jewish, all of a sudden hardcore anti, what happened? You got offended, somebody did this, and guess what? There's nothing you can do about it. You're not gonna change that guy, you're not gonna change that girl, it's just not gonna happen, right? Or a massive crisis happens in their life. Death in the family, you know, betrayal, some kind of a letdown, some kind of a chaotic situation. So, my, my focus has been trying to talk to the people in the middle that will sit there and say, well, I didn't know that. That's kinda, that really exactly what happened? Yeah.

• 40:58Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, what I think with what Newsom is doing, this is the case study on how I'm looking at this, Tom. I'm looking at this, okay, go to twenty twenty-seven, twenty twenty-eight. All of these videos are gonna recirculate. Rob, play any one of them that you have, okay? Play, which one? Okay, this is the interview. By the way, it's uncomfortable to watch it, okay? It's uncomfortable to watch, keep going, keep going until it starts? All right, watch this here, starts from here. Right off the bat, watch what he tries to do. He's a mayor here, I don't know what the year is, this could be oh-six-ish. Rob, if we can find the.

• 41:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, this is the instant redirect, right?

• 41:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, so watch the, within, within three seconds, watch what Newsom does and see if that reminds you of him today. Go ahead, Rob.

• 41:41Speaker 16

  Mr. Mayor, good to see ya. Let me start by asking you, where have you been?

• 41:46Speaker 17

  Five hundred and twenty-two point two million dollar shortfall. Last year, we had a five hundred and seven.

• 41:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

• 41:53Speaker 17

  Hank, I'm, I'm here to talk about tomorrow, today and tomorrow. Now, yesterday, I've been working my tail off, I've been out, I think I had sixty-nine public events the last two and a half weeks.

• 42:02Speaker 16

  You know, I heard you say that on the radio today, and then I asked your staff, well, where's the printout? Where are these events? And, and your press person said, well, this is stuff he just goes to.

• 42:13Speaker 17

  Yeah, these are all public events, yeah, so.

• 42:15Speaker 16

  But, but look, you know the criticism, that you have been dodging not just the press, but also the public, that you have been sulking after dropping out of the governor's race, that you're having a temper tantrum. What do you want to say about it?

• 42:28Speaker 17

  I want to say that I've been working my tail off. I've been here focused in San Francisco. I think I was gone two days out of the city in the last three weeks. We've done 69 public events. I've been as engaged or more engaged than ever. I don't read the press. It is comical, some of the things that have been written.

• 42:47Speaker 16

  So the cartoon in The Chronicle that depicted you as a crying baby with the headline, "Mayor, Mayor, Off the Wall." You didn't see that?

• 42:54Speaker 17

  No.

• 42:55Speaker 16

  You didn't see that?

• 42:56Speaker 17

  Who reads that stuff? I don't read that stuff. I focus on work. I focus on getting things done.

• 43:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Go to the last 20 seconds.

• 43:02Speaker 17

  It's not just the press.

• 43:02Patrick Bet-David?

  The way he walks off. Go back a little bit. A little bit forward. Go forward, forward, forward, right there. Okay, go ahead.

• 43:10Speaker 16

  At the end, he couldn't leave the room fast enough.

• 43:13Speaker 17

  Off the record, I'm amazingly disappointed. Amazingly. I just am, personally, you know?

• 43:21Speaker 06

  Well, I did draw him out more about the...

• 43:24Adam Sosnick?

  Asking questions. Did you see what he says right here? He goes, "Just because you say 'off the record'..."

• 43:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Doesn't mean it's off the...

• 43:30Adam Sosnick?

  Doesn't mean that I said it.

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  That I agree, yeah.

• 43:31Adam Sosnick?

  Exactly.

• 43:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 43:32Adam Sosnick?

  It just shows how long he's been doing this. Oh, man, he's amazing. He's amazing.

• 43:37Patrick Bet-David?

  And so the question becomes, Rob, if you want to play this other clip, when you go through these back to back to back, the question you ask is, is he still able to overcome this to go become a president? Maybe, maybe not. I mean, there was a point that they talked about the debate, where the guy who's debating him, he says, "Listen, if his own best friend can't trust him with his wife, what makes you think you can trust him?" Right? Make that a little bit bigger, Rob. Watch this clip. Go ahead.

• 44:06Speaker 17

  Coming here on short notice. Want to make it clear that everything you've heard and read is true. And I am deeply sorry about that. I've hurt someone I care deeply about, Alex Turk, and his friends and family.

• 44:25Speaker 18

  And that is something that I have to live with and something that I am deeply sorry for. I am also sorry that I've let the people in San Francisco down.

• 44:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 44:39Speaker 18

  Uh, they expect a lot of the mayor.

• 44:41Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know if he's gonna explain this here or not.

• 44:42Speaker 06

  You know what it was, Rob? He says him in 2000, 2005, he had an affair with Ruby Tippi Rourke, who was his best friend's wife, okay? Best friend's wife. And listen, and I know when people say-

• 44:54Patrick Bet-David?

  So watch his clip on the debate. This is it, Rob. I just found it. Play this clip, Rob. This is during the debate, race for governor. His opponent says this to him, guy. His opponent says this to him.

• 45:06Speaker 18

  The, the question is very simple, ladies and gentlemen. If you can't trust Gavin with his best friend's wife, how can you trust him with your state?

• 45:12Speaker 06

  Ooh! Oh, that is like- Best friend's wife?

• 45:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I did not know that.

• 45:19Speaker 06

  Oh, really?

• 45:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, he slept with his best friend's wife, campaign manager.

• 45:22Speaker 06

  Bro, like, that, I mean, there's so many things- And we know what about Gavin Newsom? I bet you know why he apologized. He got caught. He got caught. That's why you're apologizing.

• 45:30Patrick Bet-David?

  So Newsom had an affair with his secretary, Ruby Rippey Rourke, the wife of his campaign manager and good friend. On January 31st, 2007, Newsom's campaign manager and former deputy chief of staff Alex resigned after confronting Newsom over a sexual affair the mayor had with his wife in late 05. And it was done with. So he, but, but here's the question. What was Newsom in 07? What was Newsom in 07? What was Newsom in 2007?

• 45:56Speaker 06

  Job title? Mayor of San Francisco at that point?

• 45:58Tom Ellsworth?

  He was the mayor of San Francisco that personally presided over a same-sex marriage that I believe he officiated with a judge on the steps of City Hall.

• 46:07Patrick Bet-David?

  Perfect. So in 07, he was the mayor. That's all I'm asking, Tom. I just wonder if he's a mayor. So he was a mayor in 07. So he goes from mayor to governor to recall winning again to now he'll be the leading candidate for 2028 Democratic ca- so here's what happens. And the real question for me, the more I'm processing this from the business standpoint, and I want to ask you guys and butcher the argument, I want to see what angles you're gonna take. So, in California-

• 46:35Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not as if they're gonna have a Republican beat him. It's not gonna happen. And the guy that was standing to his left in the debate, I think that was Mayor Villagorosa. That was a former mayor of LA, by the way.

• 46:44Tom Ellsworth?

  I remember, yeah.

• 46:46Patrick Bet-David?

  So, he lost to him, they chose him, the money's gonna be behind him, the backing's gonna be behind him, but the question becomes, the same exact way, where a lot of Republicans had given up on Trump, and they had said DeSantis is the one that's gonna do it? Because look at DeSantis, the way he did Florida, he did this, he was fighting, he was doing that. Is this gonna work across the country, nationwide? I don't know. He just passed a gerrymandering that's gonna be on the ballot on November 4th, which is gonna make the state be 48 to 4, House of Representatives on the Democratic side. It's gonna go from 43 to 9 Republicans to 48 to 4 Republicans.

• 47:29Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a monopoly California's gonna have, right? Do you think the voters, not the 44%, not the 40%, do you think the middle 15, 16% is gonna look at this guy and forget these moments? Or do you think these greatest clips are gonna run against him in ways that he's gonna be forced to disappear and never ever run again? How shameless is this guy that none of that stuff's gonna affect him to become a president? What do you think?

• 47:56Tom Ellsworth?

  He's a completely shameless at a level that we haven't seen in politics in a long, long time. So I have three points. Point number one, the attention is working. He is getting the attention of Dems that are upset about the economy, upset about the way immigration is being handled, upset about the tariffs, they were scared about inflation, even though the facts didn't come true on it. And so those people were upset, and they love seeing a now, a nationally visible Democrat fighting for them, and they love it that he's calling Trump names. So point one, the attention is working, they're coming to his socials. The second, we gotta wait and look at the DNC.

• 48:39Tom Ellsworth?

  Bernie was leading until South Carolina and the DNC said, "We don't think Bernie's electable on a national stage." And I believe that that is the opinion. And I'm not a supporter of JB Pritzker, and I'm not a tea leaf reader. I'm looking at real data from DNC. The DNC believes that JD Pritzker is the guy that's electable on a national scale. And I'll tell you why you can ignore Gavin Newsom. Because the DNC takes California's electoral votes for granted. We're gonna win California anyway. We don't need Newsom to carry a key state. We want JB Pritzker here because what is surrounding Illinois?

• 49:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Wisconsin, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Cleveland. And that's where the Dems need to have a resurgence of a visible candidate in those battleground states. So I think the DNC is gonna pull strings on it. My third point is, to your point about who we can move. I'll give you two charts really, really quick. The first is, there's an organization, and I'm not plugging them, I'm just telling you what they do, Pat. The Johnson O'Connor Research Institute have been, I believe in San Diego, and they have been forever doing analysis on human beings. And they will tell you that what you just said a moment ago is true. You have normal aptitudes that are with you when you're born, and you can cultivate them

• 50:08Tom Ellsworth?

  over your life, or you can fight them. An example of fighting. You have a very creative son, but it's like, doggone it, I was a doctor, your grandfather's a doctor, your uncle's a doctor.

• 50:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Creating an enemy.

• 50:20Tom Ellsworth?

  You can make a great, you can make a great doctor, and you can be safe and have a good career, and we'll help you get in. And you have a creative son, not gay, just to say, creative son, who's into architecture. No, I'm saying that when I say creative, I'm not speaking code.

• 50:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinnie doesn't have a gay son.

• 50:35Tom Ellsworth?

  For what's to be, you know what I mean? He's just really creative. But you have a son that wants to be an architect, and, and the rest of the family is fighting his aptitudes. It's natural. The last thing that I'll take you to, Rob, I need the Arizona chart on the... There's been all this talk going on about, I just need the Arizona stats. Go back to Arizona. Right there. There's been all this talk about who's registering the most, who's not registering the most, and to your point about the 15 in the middle, would you like to know what almost the largest party in Arizona is? At 1.53, it is independents. Libertarians and Greens are small. Can you find me the exact numbers on that? I think we found that earlier on one of

• 51:19Tom Ellsworth?

  the links. It was the numbers for Arizona.

• 51:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, Tom, did you say 1.53 million is independents in Arizona?

• 51:25Tom Ellsworth?

  That's correct. I want to find the exact numbers.

• 51:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Bigger than Democrats?

• 51:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Amy and I covered this when we did Decision 2024, brought to you by ValueTainment.

• 51:33Patrick Bet-David?

  That's the part.

• 51:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep. So I need that one in a second, Rob. But anyway, it is the independents are almost as large as the Republican registered in Arizona. And that, you're exactly right, is where the battle is made. Now, go to the Gallup, Rob. The Gallup, take a look at this, Pat. You're right. These are the people since 2023, who do you identify with? They're saying, who do you call you? So this is also the independents. This isn't how you're registered. Do you identify more right now as a Republican or a Democrat? And with all the mayhem and things that have been going on in the spring here.

• 52:12Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Gallup. Gallup.

• 52:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Gallup.

• 52:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Forty-six percent, no matter what, they still identify as Democrat.

• 52:18Tom Ellsworth?

  That is correct, right now.

• 52:19Patrick Bet-David?

  And 43% is Republican.

• 52:20Tom Ellsworth?

  And you can see the surge that happened, the shift in Q1. That was, guess what? Q1 last year, that was the shift. The primaries, Trump comes back, and look at the surge as the people said, you know, I really feel more like Republican. But guess what? Forty-six, forty-three, that's only 89. There's your 11%, which is closer to 15%, where you're exactly, talking a minute ago, where the battle is being fought.

• 52:44Patrick Bet-David?

  I got it. Go ahead, Adam.

• 52:45Adam Sosnick?

  So the question is, does Gavin Newsom have a chance? What's the exact question?

• 52:49Speaker 06

  That, that, that, is he, to persuade that 10 to 15% that are just kind of on the fence like, "Well, I don't know where, uh, who's, what message?"

• 52:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Will Newsom with this approach that he's taken, will this work on the national scale, not just on California?

• 53:06Adam Sosnick?

  Yes, it will. Uh, Gavin Newsom is a snake oil salesman. We all know that. He's a version of American Psycho. He looks the part, he acts the part. Don't forget, you know, we're a bunch of guys talking politics, talking current events, talking social issues. You know, what we don't have on this, uh, stage right now on this podcast are females, are women. And there's a story here about the political divide between young men and young women. We use as an example. Young men, if you look at the stat, I don't know if you can show this, Rob. You know, they're like, "Men are moving more to the right and women are moving more to the left. Men are more conservative, women are more progressive." Not really. Men are actually just straight up in the middle. Rob, do you have that? Yep.

• 53:48Adam Sosnick?

  Uh, women have gone off the deep end politically. So we, we tend to think of, "Well, you know, since Trump and since what's going on here, men have come and become way more conservative." That one right there. Right here, if you see the zero, that is the bottom line. This is young men in America. So if you're above zero, that means you're a little bit more liberal. If you're below zero, you're a little more conservative. Men are basically at the zero line. They're not too liberal, they're not too conservative. That's the green line men. Women are off the deep end progressive. So what we're creating in this country since basically 2000 are angry, liberal, single, lonely, depressed feminists. Not my opinion.

• 54:33Adam Sosnick?

  Facts don't care about your feelings. Numbers don't lie.

• 54:35Speaker 06

  Slumber scream.

• 54:36Adam Sosnick?

  Words talk, numbers scream.

• 54:37Speaker 06

  They're screaming.

• 54:38Adam Sosnick?

  Men are not crazy MAGA extremists. They're just dudes who know what they, what they, who they are.

• 54:44Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 54:44Adam Sosnick?

  Women have gone, not 10, not 20, not 30, 40% off the Richter scale. So you ask the question, uh, does Gavin Newman have, Gavin Newsom have a chance? You betcha. Is he good looking? Yes. Does he got great hair? Yes. Does he talk very handsy and, and do women compel him? Uh, 1 million percent. So if you put up JB Pritzker's sloppiness against Gavin, women are gonna pick Gavin. You put up name recognition, don't forget about gate, name recognition. Nobody knows Wes Moore. Nobody knows Andy Beshear. People hardly know Gretchen Whitmer. We all know Gavin Newsom. I'm not saying he's good. I'm not saying he's qualified. I'm saying he'd be a disaster, but I'm saying he could win.

• 55:29Speaker 06

  And I think, and Pat, to your question about that 10 to 50%, I hope. And that's why I think it's, it's our job for podcasts like this and us to remind people who this person is, to show the receipts of who this person is, show them what they do. And Pat, just FYI, Rob, do you play that clip? I think it was CNN, that the Democrats have a deficit of 4, play this clip, 4.5 million voters, see?

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• 56:49Speaker 19

  In all 30 states that track party registration, we're putting on the screen, the data, it shows altogether, Democrats have lost 2.1 million voters. Republicans have gained 2.4 million. That's a deficit that you have of 4.5 million voters.

• 57:05Speaker 06

  So I'll apologize because I chose the wrong wording. Democrats aren't stupid. It's just this blind loyalty and not knowing the actual, like, history and what this person is doing. I think it's a wake-up call to let these people know that 10 to 15, guys, this is who he is, this is what he's about, nothing is going to change.

• 57:22Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but for sure, but what I'm, what I'm, the angle I'm gonna take is, where I'm going with this is, I've, I've always, uh, um, uh, uh, if I've had a goal on who I want to attract to listen, there's the guy in the middle that is still thinking about which way should I go? The guy that wants to be, that's fairly reasonable, that maybe was raised a Democrat and is like, let me tell you, some of this stuff just doesn't make sense to me, right? Why is this happening? That's all it is. Sometime when you present the argument, the person listens to it and then you're like, okay. Now, don't get me wrong. You need the marketing, you need all that other stuff. You need the shamelessness, you need all, I'm talking to Tony Robbins, I'm like, hey, he says, what do you think is the number one quality of somebody becoming a president? I say, you have to be shameless. He said, I never thought about it that way before.

• 58:06Patrick Bet-David?

  You have to be shameless to become a president. You have to know that, think about what's your most embarrassed about? Your mistakes the last 10 years, 20 years? Are you comfortable with everybody around the world talking about that? And you're still shameless enough to go out there and become a president? That's what you need. Trump has that, Newsom has that, some of the people have that. I don't think Kamala had that. I think Kamala was, you know, I think Joe Biden had it, believe it or not, Joe Biden, some of the stuff, you go back, the guy was shameless as hell, is what he was, okay? By the way, Clinton, shameless. You want to go through a list? There's Hillary Clinton, the ultimate shameless. She just didn't win because she had a terrible personality. She wasn't attractive, but you need that quality. I do want to show this clip about parenting, Vinny. I want you to watch this.

• 58:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, if you can pull this up. This is a, a gentleman speaking about why parenting has almost no effect, Tom, after age 15. Look at the way he breaks it down. Go ahead.

• 59:03Speaker 20

  It's where you live. Why? Because out of home influences are more powerful in shaping the life course of your child than in-home influences are. And those out of home influences are peer groups, other adults, neighborhoods, resources, schools.

• 59:19Speaker 20

  And the larger community that you made available to this child. That is how you shape your child's life course. The second biggest influence is also out of your hands, and that's genetics. And you don't get to determine that. But if you think parenting is so influential, let me give you two findings that have been replicated many times. When we follow up twins, we are able to calculate how much of their behavior is due to parenting within family environment. And here's what we find. The peak years of parental influence are below seven. From seven on to 12, it drops dramatically. After 15, it's 6%. 6% of the variation in a teenager's behavior is how their parents raised them. That's it. And after age 21, it's zero. There is no influence of parenting on any psychological trait after the age of 21. Now, do not mistake what I am saying.

• 1:00:04Speaker 20

  The knowledge your child possesses, what they know is clearly a function of exposure in the environment. But their traits, their abilities, their makeup, their personality is not.

• 1:00:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you agree with them?

• 1:00:17Tom Ellsworth?

  I agree to a certain extent. I mean, remember, you're talking about, uh, this is the, this is the psychological environment and industry speaking. And it's based on their, their observations. However, there is truth in what he's saying is that you get really two bites at the apple. Bite number one is under age 13, uh, before puberty. Cause puberty brings emotions, hormones, and changes in, in behavior that we all experience ourselves. The second bite you get is between 13 and 18, when they leave the house. Now, the first bite is much bigger and more impact. But you do have a chance between 13 and 18.

• 1:01:02Tom Ellsworth?

  And the angle that I chose, which was based on a lot of research, was I taught my daughters to reason and resist. To reason through the situations of life and resist the, the easy for the best. Resist the easy choices for the best. And I constantly pointed out perspectives. I didn't just stay in the echo chamber of our dinner table. I pointed out, hey, did you see what happened to that kid at your school? Yeah. Do you see? Do you see this? Do you see? And so when you start pointing out things that are happening in their environment and you teach them to reason and resist, that's what you get the second bite of the apple.

• 1:01:46Tom Ellsworth?

  But he's correct in that, look. When the kids are young, you gotta get them, you gotta get them young on the things that you want them to respect, to do, and to have a natural inclination to. Because after puberty and all those hormones hit, it's really difficult. They're fighting two things. Structure you're putting around them and the natural hormonal zaniness, especially in young boys, it just happens to you. And then where, where, where do they spend most of their day? They spend most of their day in school. And so you need to know what is the makeup of the most influential kids are at their school? And what are those households looking like?

• 1:02:30Tom Ellsworth?

  And I've been fortunate that the households that the girls are being influenced by are well structured and well behaved households.

• 1:02:40Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, you watch this and when he says after 15, after 21 years old, the influence is zero. And he has zero. I don't agree with that. You know, where it's, you know, it's more about parents, more than, you know, the community more than it is the parents. Okay, fine. Yes, I do believe that because purely the hours, number of spend with different people. It's important to put your kids in a school that's teaching the values that you agree with. And the risk is involved on, you know, somebody may disagree with this, Vinny, and they may say the following. They may say, well, I don't agree with this guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah, because the influence is more on parents and that is why. Tell me why the LGBTQ community is growing on the kids? You think the parents are doing it? You think most parents are sitting there telling their kids to be gay?

• 1:03:25Patrick Bet-David?

  You think, forget about the Megan Foxes and forget about the Hollywood folks, you know, the Dwayne Ways. You know, I know since my kid was three years old, he was a transgender, whatever. I'm not talking about those guys. But who is doing this? Schools doing this. Who is doing this? Communities are doing this. So there's a part of what he's saying is so true. Where if you build a community, like the way we are when we're around each other, our values are similar. I don't mind if my kids are with Tom and I'm not there. He doesn't mind if his kids are with us and we're not there. We don't have any problem there because we know what we're teaching, right? And neither one of us are undermining each other. Like, I don't undermine Tom.

• 1:04:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:04:02Patrick Bet-David?

  And Tom doesn't undermine me. You can have some other people that are around us and they, they take shots and you, you see the kids. When you see the kid disrespect you, the kid never disrespects me. The parents disrespect me in front of the kid for the kid to disrespect you. So never think is the kid. It's not the kid. The parent is influencing that. So you're like, no problem. If that's the case, I'm not trying to get involved. It's your kid. You handle your thing. But on the part that I want to talk about here is the influence side. The other night, we're having dinner, okay? And we're at dinner, a restaurant we've never been to before. Some of you guys should check it out. It's called Casa de Antonio. So we're having dinner at this place. Yeah, okay. There's a guy that made a video with forty, fifty times me saying it. I just love the place. So we come back, you're there, we're in the car. You drove us home. We're in the car with the boys, right?

• 1:04:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We come home that night and I sit down with me, Tico, Dylan and Senna. I take out a piece of paper, okay? And I said, guys, let's play a game together. And this is the game that we played. We played the game. I said, tell me, you can see here what it looks like. I said, tell me, you're thirty years old, okay?

• 1:05:13Patrick Bet-David?

  What would be four to five things that you would be proud of if you're thirty years old that you're doing? Okay? So I'd want to be a soccer player. Okay, great. What else? I, I want to run my own business, insurance. Okay, great. What else? I, um, I want to be a palant- palantialo- palantial-

• 1:05:36Speaker 06

  Pan- palantial- wait.

• 1:05:38Patrick Bet-David?

  What is that? That's like the study-

• 1:05:39Speaker 06

  The dinosaur person, Tom. Paleontologist, I think. Paleontologist. Paleontologist.

• 1:05:44Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so-

• 1:05:44Speaker 06

  I imagine-

• 1:05:45Tom Ellsworth?

  Study of, study of animal history.

• 1:05:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Right, so, you know, that's what I want to do. Okay, great. What else? And I'm going through it. I, I, I'd want to, okay, what else? Next one. I'd want to be the CEO of Valuetainment. What else? I want to be able to do this. What, I want to be able to make movies. I want to be able to write scripts and my characters actually become, you know, what else? I want to be able to have Mon Bakery. I want to be able to do this. I want to be able to do that. And they're explaining all of these things, right? So I said, okay, what qualities do you need for this to become a reality? Leadership, determination, discipline, hard work, poise, they're giving me all the qualities. I'm not giving them. I said, so you need all those qualities to be this? Yes. All right. Fantastic. What route do you need to take for each of these jobs? Which of these jobs do you need a degree? Do you need a degree to be a professional soccer player?

• 1:06:31Patrick Bet-David?

  No. Do you need a degree to be a business owner? No. Do you need a degree? So we're kind of going through it. Yes, I need it for palantir, all this other stuff. We're kind of going through it, right? And then you know what I do? I said, okay, great, let's play a game. What's the game? We're gonna play the imagination game. What's the imagination game? I said, let's go through it. So I said, I want you to think about, you're 30 years old, okay? You're 30 years old, um, and you're, you want to set that aside, Adam, for a second? What are you doing? You eating some chips and stuff?

• 1:07:03Adam Sosnick?

  No, go ahead, sir.

• 1:07:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so imagine you're 30 years old and you're actually doing this job. Adam, what are you doing?

• 1:07:14Adam Sosnick?

  Pat, it's a thing right here.

• 1:07:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so I said, I'm telling him 15 times, like, set that thing aside. I said, imagine you're 30 years old, you're a professional soccer player. To one of them, I said, imagine you're 30 years old, you graduated West Point, you're in the military. I'm just watching reaction. I said, how's it gonna feel? He says, I guess we'll know when I'm there. I said, okay. So I said, imagine 30 years old, you're making movies, you're in the theater, you're watching people's reaction. They're getting scared, or they're crying, or they're reacting, and you're just watching everyone's face. How's it gonna feel? To see his entire physiology changed, his face. Then I go to the next one, and the next one, and then I go to Dylan.

• 1:07:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I wish I recorded this moment, because I'm always gonna cherish this moment, this moment with these guys. In tears. In full-on tears.

• 1:08:08Adam Sosnick?

  Dilly.

• 1:08:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Dilly, when I tell you full-on tears, full-on tears. And he, then Senna. I said, notice which one didn't give you any excitement. Notice which one you were just kind of like, whatever. Notice which one gave you an incredible. I said, you have to realize.

• 1:08:31Patrick Bet-David?

  I can only take you so far daddy, I can't take you that far. I'm your dad, my dad never told me to go be a business owner. He just set an example, I worked hard and I picked up the hard work from him and keep your word. And I took it to this level, I've never seen anybody in my family make this kind of money. I wanted to go to this level. If you're gonna go be a professional, anything, you gotta take it to certain levels that I can't even take it. But when you saw their faces, I said, notice you didn't react to that, but you reacted to this and you reacted to this. So now it's gonna come down to what you guys wanna do with your life. But every one of them, Vinny, is different. This is why I'm convinced, there are studies done about the fact that people are born with liberal tendencies.

• 1:09:16Patrick Bet-David?

  And people are born with conservative tendencies, you're born that way. And then some of it is family, environment, surroundings, all this other stuff that makes you that way. So to me, as we're going through this direction, there are people that hate passionately people like Trump. Passionately, they hate people like Trump. And, you know, you're like, alright, that's what that person is. But if we're going forward with this place and you're seeing that whole number you just showed, that's 2.1 million Democrats lost, Republicans lost 2.4 million. Why do you think Democrats lost 2.1 million? And Republicans gained 2.4 million? Why do you think the reasons are?

• 1:09:55Speaker 06

  Border, economy...

• 1:09:57Patrick Bet-David?

  No, think about them. So Democrats screwed up the border.

• 1:10:01Speaker 06

  Democrats, so they're losing voters.

• 1:10:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Why did 2.4 million people flip to the Republican side?

• 1:10:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Nobody's emotional or taken by the Democrat vision, what they're selling. They don't get me, it's not about, I don't think it's about the issues like that, I think it's at first, it's at the core. You don't get me emotional about the future of America if you describe it the way the Dems do. That's me. You haven't got me, but guess what? There's a bunch of people that are moving that don't like what they see in America, and they like what they're being sold on one side.

• 1:10:36Speaker 06

  And I think a lot of them too, Tom, like when you see like...

• 1:10:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's my opinion.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  Like when you see all these... Like, I'm not saying Stephen A. Smith is not a Democrat anymore, but all this shift, all these people flipping because they're like, wait a minute. This guy, like, this movement that you guys were lying to us this whole time, from Russia to this, to that, to here, the economy. And now, now it's time to like, wait a minute. Everything that you guys said about this guy, that stupid, that, I'm sorry, I'm saying the word again, that hat, Newsom was right about everything. No, no, Trump, he wasn't right about everything, but he was kinda right. The tariffs are working, the border, this, everything, the crime, it's all working, so now they're all flipping to the other side. They are.

• 1:11:12Patrick Bet-David?

  So, to me, if the number one factor for me is results.

• 1:11:19Patrick Bet-David?

  When they first came out with all this transgender stuff and all the COVID vaccine stuff and all the stay home and don't go to school and put the mask on stuff. Guess what the 20% did? Not, not, not the 40, 40, not the 47, whatever, with the 46, 43, what did the 15% of middle do?

• 1:11:37Speaker 06

  Started questioning and getting upset?

• 1:11:38Patrick Bet-David?

  No, they actually did it.

• 1:11:41Patrick Bet-David?

  The people, the people are like, alright, maybe, maybe they're right, maybe we should take the vaccine. Maybe they're like, maybe, maybe we should put the mask on. Maybe they're like, maybe we should stay home and, maybe, maybe they're right, maybe. But then what happened? Then they learned they were wrong.

• 1:11:57Patrick Bet-David?

  And then when they found that they were wrong, they're like, dude, I don't relate to you guys. What's the point? The Republicans can still screw it up and hand those votes out to the other side. They can still screw it up and hand the votes out to the other side if they start getting overly confident. But right now, according to data, research, numbers, if, and by the way, the tariffs are not even done yet. Imagine if they brokered a deal with China. Imagine if he gets this peace deal with Russia, Ukraine, Zelensky. Imagine if he gets everything that's done with Israel and imagine if he gets all this stuff done and the economy's popping next year. What are they gonna say?

• 1:12:36Patrick Bet-David?

  You can try to mock all the stuff you're doing. People are gonna look at you and they're gonna be like, "Yeah, you guys are funny." You, you, it's like the guy, you ever seen the guy that's like, you know, the basketball game? The guy's like, "Hey, what's up, what's up, what's up?" And the player goes like, to me, looks at him, is laughing, and was like...

• 1:12:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, the score, look at the score, yeah.

• 1:12:55Patrick Bet-David?

  You're down 42 points, bro.

• 1:12:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:12:57Patrick Bet-David?

  What are you doing?

• 1:12:58Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:12:58Patrick Bet-David?

  That's what could happen in 27, 28, if they keep playing this way. It could be a devastating loss to the other side, the way they're going.

• 1:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Adam, have your nuts. Whatever you're trying to have. This guy is like, opens up the nuts like at the...

• 1:13:14Speaker 06

  I wanna go...

• 1:13:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, let's go to Venezuela. Let's talk about Venezuela real quick. I got a few things I wanna say about this. So, Maduro relies, rallies Venezuela militias before US warship arrival. So, check this out. Do you know what is the most America's ever offered a bounty to an individual? What do you think is the most money America's ever offered as a bounty?

• 1:13:34Speaker 06

  25 million?

• 1:13:35Patrick Bet-David?

  To who?

• 1:13:36Speaker 06

  Osama Bin Laden.

• 1:13:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Osama Bin Laden and who else? Two names. Saddam Hussein. Okay. So, you know what's the most bounty we ever offered to anybody?

• 1:13:44Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:13:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Maduro. Record-breaking number one. So, a few things when you go through why this is happening, why this is such a big story. It's a massive story. By the way, I think we have 4,000 troops, if I'm not mistaken. 4,000 troops, okay? They've already deployed three guided missile destroyers. USS Gravely, USS Jason Dunham, USS Sampson, okay? They designate this guy as a terrorist organization, the same way they did as MS-13 and a couple of different places. Do you know how much money from Maduro they've seized? I didn't know this number. Do you know how much money they've seized from Maduro?

• 1:14:20Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:14:21Patrick Bet-David?

  700 million dollars of bank assets, money, accounts.

• 1:14:27Speaker 06

  We got...

• 1:14:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes, 700 million dollars. Private jets completely seized it. And, and so the question becomes, why are they doing this? You know, Venezuela is responsible for 25% of the entire world cocaine. So, whatever cocaine that's being used, out of four, you know, lines you do, one of them is from Venezuela. Just kinda look at it that way.

• 1:14:45Speaker 06

  Great, great, uh, no, what about Colombia?

• 1:14:48Patrick Bet-David?

  They got 25% of it. Adam, is that accurate? It used to be Colombia. Adam, is that accurate? I don't know, Tom. Do your little bubbler noise. We'll figure it out. Now, you snort cocaine. You don't bubble through bong. While they're doing this. Tom, explain that again? Trump administration allowing Chevron to resume their US-only oil operations in Venezuela. All of this stuff is going on, right? With Venezuela. All the stuff that they're doing. And then Maduro is trying to flip the script. Rob, if you got this video here to play. This is, is this a clip, Rob? Yes. Go for it.

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• 1:16:16Speaker 21

  This week, I'm going to activate a special plan to ensure coverage with more than 4,500,000 militia members, Amelia, across the entire national territory. Militias prepared, activated and armed rifles and missiles for the rural force to defend the territory, the sovereignty and the peace of Venezuela.

• 1:16:42Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, for the people that, but for the people that don't know, that's not really his voice. I don't know why that man, the translator, was screaming the way he was, but shout out to him. He was actually trying to get the energy as well as Maduro was. He's calling on Venezuelans to enlist in the national militias ahead of the potential rival to US warships in the Caribbean. Wood State TV on Friday urging men and women to sign up at army bases and public squares. A presenter declaring, "When your country calls, it's as if your mother was calling." Maduro stated the day earlier, "We call to arms all militia members to tell imperialists, enough of your threats. Venezuela rejects you. The US plans to send..." The things that we talked about, Maduro has claimed the militias have four and a half million people, though outside

• 1:17:24Patrick Bet-David?

  estimates put Venezuela's total forces at 100,000 to 400,000 as the ranks have been hollowed out by desertions amid the oil-rich country's economic collapse. The US government, which does not recognize Maduro's last two elections victories, recently doubled down on the $50 million. And a lot of this is accusing him of leading the cartel "Des Los Solos", allegations Maduro has dismissed as rotten rerun aiming at justifying foreign intervention. So, Tom, what are your thoughts about what's gonna end up happening here?

• 1:17:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, let's play fun with math with Mr. Maduro. It says, it's very, very simple. How many people does he say is in militia? Four and a half million?

• 1:18:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Four and a half million.

• 1:18:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Okay. The World Bank seems to think his population is 28.2. Independent estimates indicate it's 26.7 to 28, and there's one estimate at 29. Let's just go in the middle at 28 million people. Four and a half million people would be almost 18% of the total population is in a militia, ready to help their dictator that has destroyed their currency, shut off electricity and water, imprison people, chase the highly educated out of it. See, also Cuba, 1965, Castro did the same thing. And now he's been, has a bounty on his head. You're telling me that? And so, this is why the military estimates are, he only has about 100,000 and they're really

• 1:18:53Tom Ellsworth?

  poorly armed. When the shit, excuse me, when the shit starts to hit the fan from the, you only need one of those destroyers and we're sending three? This is, this is... Off the charts. Now then, there's a very important word that's in the middle of all this reporting, and that word is Chevron.

• 1:19:12Patrick Bet-David?

  That's tricky.

• 1:19:14Tom Ellsworth?

  That's right.

• 1:19:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Who is Chevron is buying oil from Venezuela. What international oil group is Venezuela a part of? And everybody forgets about it.

• 1:19:26Speaker 06

  OPEC?

• 1:19:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct.

• 1:19:27Speaker 06

  Thanks, Tom.

• 1:19:28Tom Ellsworth?

  They are the lone OPEC representative in the other hemisphere. So, and they went to OPEC so that they could get pricing controls and other things because they didn't have a working government to help. And so, right now, Maduro is just out there. Man, this is literally a man without a country. There will be celebrating in the streets, on one hand, when this guy is taken. The other hand will be very upset that the US came and did it. You know what I'm saying?

• 1:19:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:19:56Tom Ellsworth?

  It says, it's like, I'm glad you fixed immigration, but I hate the videos I see of you taking people out of the field.

• 1:20:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Living conditions is absolutely horrible in Venezuela.

• 1:20:06Speaker 06

  So, Pat, two things. If we want, I mean, we have a bounty. Let's, let's be completely honest with each other. If we want this guy dead, he'd be dead like that. Let's not even...

• 1:20:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you can do the CIA way, or you have to do a public way where you get the citizens to come up and, and hopefully vote for something of a working government.

• 1:20:24Speaker 06

  Because, because when I see that, like, when I think of the people, I feel bad for the people. The same like with Iran, Pat. Like, it, besides the people having to freaking rally, and I get it, because, you know, they have everybody so, you know, scared and the military and this and that. If we want, we have a bounty, but if we want him done, Tom, this guy could be done in a week.

• 1:20:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What's your point?

• 1:20:42Speaker 06

  I'm just saying, like, what are, what are they waiting? What's the bounty going to do? Bring in awareness?

• 1:20:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:46Tom Ellsworth?

  But I'm... What fills it in? Twenty, 25% of the world's cocaine, or I mean, the cocaine coming to North America? What fills the gap? What did we learn about Saddam Hussein? What did we learn about the Shah of Iran? If you come in and you just cut down the tree, you better have a plan to get shade for the citizens, because now there's no tree.

• 1:21:03Speaker 06

  Well, I mean, but if you put a bounty, that means, hey, hey, guys, anybody out there, if you kill this guy, or you capture him, we'll give you 50 million. He's got, the, the bounty's set. They want him dead.

• 1:21:12Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not, I'm not buying that, uh...

• 1:21:15Adam Sosnick?

  Description that Tom used, I get that that's correct in the Middle East. But nowhere in South America Islamic extremist terrorists taking over. They always say, you know, what's worse, what's on the other side?

• 1:21:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Who will take over?

• 1:21:27Adam Sosnick?

  Correct. You always think what's worse, what's next? Well, we know in the Middle East, what could come next? What could be possibly worse than a communist socialist dictatorship in South America? Like, show me something worse. There's no worse that can come from it. So what, Trend de Agua will take over Venezuela? Venezuela already has the highest misery index in the entire Western Hemisphere. So in the Middle East, yes, things can get way worse. Uh, when a Islamic extremism group comes in. In the Western Hemisphere, we don't have that sick twisted ideology. We just have terrorism. So I'm not buying that, that getting Maduro out of there.

• 1:22:07Tom Ellsworth?

  As much as it is Adam better, how does it get better? And people like Chevron that are heavily lobbying the US government to intervene yesterday. The entire oil producing and refining industry is in the president's ear right now. And in the ear of Marco Rubio saying, can you fix this? Because this could be a key supplier here in this side of the world. And so how do we put something better in place? It's not, I'm not worried about Muslim extremism being part of the government. I'm worried about, can we at least get closer? Can we at least get a leader that's closer to Mexico? Who's still corrupt and led by the cartels, but has something close to a working government?

• 1:22:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, the challenge is when you're saying Mexico, the worry is if Venezuela succeeds, Scheinbaum is going to look at that as a case study because you know Mexico is also, you know, uh, the claims are that they're also being controlled by the cartel. So we know Venezuela works directly with them. How the hell did, when they say they see 700 million dollars of assets? How does Maduro have 700 million dollars of assets? How'd you get that money?

• 1:23:13Tom Ellsworth?

  For the oil.

• 1:23:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Who'd you take it from? Where'd you get that money from? How do you have all those jets in the luxury? What business was he in? Did he find, did he start an oil company? You know, when you have 80% of a country living below poverty line and 54% live in extreme poverty lines. In some regions in Venezuela right now, there's 20-hour outages, Vinny. 200 outages a day in Venezuela. 200 outages a day.

• 1:23:41Adam Sosnick?

  This is water and electricity.

• 1:23:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I mean, it's horrible, horrible living. I think on the misery index, they're 178 out of 180 countries. They scored 10 out of 100 is what their scores. 10 out of 100.

• 1:23:54Adam Sosnick?

  There's only a couple of countries worse.

• 1:23:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, there's only a couple.

• 1:23:56Adam Sosnick?

  Zimbabwe and Sudan.

• 1:23:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it is a, you know what their inflation is? Here, we're talking about inflation being what? What's the number we're trying to keep it below?

• 1:24:04Adam Sosnick?

  2% a year.

• 1:24:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you know what inflation is in Venezuela right now? 70-plus percent. It was 500%. It's at 70-plus percent. It is, and by the way, have you ever met Venezuelans?

• 1:24:17Adam Sosnick?

  They're the best.

• 1:24:18Patrick Bet-David?

  They're the best.

• 1:24:19Adam Sosnick?

  Oh, I love them.

• 1:24:20Patrick Bet-David?

  They're some of the best people in the world. Literally, some of the best people in the world. Guinness Book of World Record about 30 years ago, they were talking about the happiest people in the world. You know what they ranked as the happiest people in the world? Venezuela. People from Venezuela were known as the happiest people in the world. We're talking decades ago, you know, but things have changed. So, bigger concern with this is if they allow them to continue, other Maduros in South and Central America are going to be like, oh, there is opportunity. America will allow somebody like me to be there. One, you got to get the oil to be circulating. The other two, the other one is you don't want another person to want to be like him. You don't want Mexico to be like him. So, they're kind of playing offense and, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens to Venezuela. Adam?

• 1:25:03Adam Sosnick?

  Well, this is just another case example of what communism and socialism would do to your country. I want to say that 40 years ago, you talk about 30 years ago, Venezuela, I think, was one of the richest countries in the entire Western Hemisphere. I mean, incredible economy, and now it's just basically an authoritarian gas station run by this dictator slash thug. You know, they say, "Show me your friends, I'll show you your future." Who are the friends of Venezuela? You have Cuba. And don't get me started on all my Cuban friends in Miami, who would have no interest going back to Cuba ever again, but they love their Cuban heritage, my people out there. Russia. China, Iran, these are Venezuela's friends. So, there's no plano going on in Venezuela, and it's only getting worse.

• 1:25:47Adam Sosnick?

  So, whatever the bounty is on Maduro, hopefully someone catches that paycheck.

• 1:25:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Let's go to the next day, next article here. Folks, retirement age should be 58. Survey respondents said on average, here's what financial advisors recommend. CNBC, retirement age should be 58. Surveyed Americans in a June 2nd Empower report polling 1,001 adults said the ideal retirement age should be 58 years old, significantly younger than the 2024 retirement age of 64 for men and 62 for women. With 58% Americans retiring earlier than expected due to health-related reasons, 46% employment issues, 43% family reasons, 20% is financial stability, 21%. Caroline McLellan, a certified financial planner, founder of Life Planning Partners

• 1:26:38Patrick Bet-David?

  in Jackson, Florida, warned that retiring at 58 means looking at 30 or 40 years of not working due to longer life expectations. Advising, "You may end up coming up short, not having money enough if you quit work too early," she emphasized, "ensuring enough savings." The magic number for comfortable retirement per an April Northwestern Mutual report is an average of $1.26 million, down from $1.46 million as previously. I don't know how the hell that happens. Yet 51% of respondents feared outliving their savings. No shit. With McLellan, McLennan stressing the need to know how much is required to live on during retirement and save accordingly. Adam, thoughts on the story?

• 1:27:20Adam Sosnick?

  I mean, you know how you got mad at Vinnie for calling people stupid? The people who actually believe that they can retire at 58 are stupid. You might want to use other words, uninformed, naive, misunderstood. You don't understand how much money you need for retirement and really what 58 is. We broke down social security the other day about how it was implemented during the new deal under FDR. What was it, age 62 it kicks in, 65 is, was life expectancy at the time? Life expectancy now, if you're-

• 1:27:50Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, the other way.

• 1:27:51Adam Sosnick?

  Sorry.

• 1:27:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Life expectancy was 61, benefits began at 65.

• 1:27:55Adam Sosnick?

  Either way, 58 is such a ridiculous number. It just shows how uninformed and naive a lot of people are about retirement. I told the story about my mom, my mom's 74. I said, "Mom, you're gonna work till you're 80." What else you, you don't have any hobbies? I love you. You like hanging out with people. You work at a, a nurse's office, a hospital? Help the people. Uh, more and more people need to find, uh, meaning and get passionate about what they do because get ready to work. You know, RuPaul said, "You better work."

• 1:28:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Work it, girl.

• 1:28:25Adam Sosnick?

  Work it, girl. You guys are gonna be working for the next thirty, forty, fifty years. In my opinion, retirement age needs to go up, not down. Fifty-eight should be flipped to eighty-five.

• 1:28:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, what's interesting is I looked at the survey a little bit more closely prepping today. And I noticed that it said, "The thousand and one respondents said the age should be fifty-eight." Meaning they wish they could retire at fifty-eight, which is what they were saying in the survey. That's what they're saying. And I'm not interpreting anything other than what was written there. I'm actually not interpreting at all. So retirement age should be fifty-eight. Okay, great. What that doesn't point out is purpose. Um, the greatest, and I, I, I think this is part of the, the greatest, uh, speech. And, and it took very little time on retirement was given by Bobby Bowden. They said, "Coach Bowden, when are you gonna retire?"

• 1:29:19Adam Sosnick?

  That was my coach.

• 1:29:20Tom Ellsworth?

  He says, "I am in no hurry to retire because that means sitting at home waiting for one big event."

• 1:29:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Death.

• 1:29:27Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly. That's what he said. And he said, "As long as I have a passion for these kids, I'm gonna be here on the sideline." And so...

• 1:29:35Patrick Bet-David?

  He'll have ninety-three years.

• 1:29:36Adam Sosnick?

  Good old Bobby Bowden.

• 1:29:36Tom Ellsworth?

  That's exactly... Take it right.

• 1:29:38Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, you would have been retired five years ago according to age fifty-eight. That's ridiculous.

• 1:29:43Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm not, no.

• 1:29:44Adam Sosnick?

  You're not waiting, sitting around waiting on death.

• 1:29:46Tom Ellsworth?

  No, no, no, I'm on the Charlie Munger plan.

• 1:29:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Kelly found out the other day, how old you are. She was shell shocked.

• 1:29:52Adam Sosnick?

  She thought you were way old.

• 1:29:53Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no. She was shell shocked when we told her how old you are. She couldn't believe it, if any.

• 1:29:58Speaker 06

  So, and, and you, you actually, uh...

• 1:30:00Tom Ellsworth?

  Charlie Munger plan.

• 1:30:01Speaker 06

  No, well, you brought this up a while ago and I've, I've been repeating this over and over about people and, you know, uh, Adam's mom. Hi, mom. She's out there watching. Uh, you brought this up, the, the study that employees who retired at fifty-five had almost doubled the risk of death within ten years compared to those who retired. At sixty-five, specifically many who retired at fifty-five died before reaching sixty-five. Then Oregon State University studied two thousand and sixteen. People retired at sixty-six had an eleven percent lower risk of dying early than those who retired early. And then, um, early retirees had a thirteen percent higher risk of death than those who retired early. Like if you, by the way, the machine has to keep moving. Once you stop and you sit, I don't care if it's a Ferrari, a brand-new Ferrari. Leave it on your lawn for a couple of years and don't drive it. What happens to it? It's gonna, the battery's gonna die.

• 1:30:46Patrick Bet-David?

  It's, it's so interesting, Tom, when you're saying thousand and one should be fifty-eight, right? Would like it to be fifty-eight. But this is what I'm wondering for the people that said it should be fifty-eight. Well, guess what? If you, Mr. and Mrs. Retiree, if you made the right choices in your twenties instead of smoking weed and partying, if you worked your ass off in your thirties, forties, and fifties and put yourself in a position to retire at fifty-eight, guess what? Go at it. But when you say should be, are some of the thousand and one saying that the government should allow me to retire at fifty-eight years old and taxpayers pay for you? No, that's a no. I don't care what age a person chooses to retire.

• 1:31:30Patrick Bet-David?

  It's your provocative. Do you want to do forty-two, fifty-eight, seventy-nine, ninety-eight? I don't care. It's your decision. Sitting down with a guy the other day, and good friend of mine, and it was such an awkward conversation. I said to him, I said, you know what's funny? What's that? He's probably listening to this. I said, you know what's funny? I said, I remember the guy when I first met how you used to work. And he says, what do you mean? I said, man, you don't work the way you used to work. You want me to work like if I'm, as if I'm in my twenties? I'm like, I'm sorry. How old are you? You're similar age to me. You're acting like you're seventy-two years old.

• 1:32:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I said, by the way, if you made better choices in your twenties, thirties, and early forties, you could have worked less if you wanted to, but you didn't. So you don't have a lot of options. Yeah. It's not like you have the luxury of not having to work. He put himself in a position that he can wake up anytime he wants. Right? He worked with a company and he can be the two-hundred-thousand-dollar Uber, you know, no responsibility, no kids, no nothing. I'm just kind of, I don't want a house. I don't want anything that's a long-term payment and I just got a bunch of cash I'm sitting on. Guess what? He can be living the life that he wants today and no one can tell him anything. Wow, I'll take it.

• 1:32:57Speaker 22

  Eating nuts?

• 1:32:58Patrick Bet-David?

  But that doesn't mean people want to work with him. That just means he's put himself. Why you gotta go there? No, no. He's just saying. You made me feel great about all my decisions and then you'll be like, well, everyone hates us. But this is where I'm going. Do you know where I was going with it? Not in real life, P B. When I was trying to explain to this guy. Internet is real life. Trying to explain to this guy, bro, forty to sixty are your best working years of your life. Yep. And you're saying, you want me to work like as if my twenties? No, more. Are you out of your mind? Yes! What do you mean I work more? Because you screwed up in your twenties. You screwed up some of the money you had in your thirties. That's nobody else's fault. It happens. But you gotta play offense. I'm working harder than I was in my twenties and I'm enjoying life.

• 1:33:43Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm enjoying what I'm doing. I'm not sitting there like, and, and, and, and the difference is, some of us have the luxury to stop and never have to work again. We can stop and my kids don't ever have to work. We made some real good choices. But you think I'm gonna have that happen with my kids? No. So, so, so the challenge with this number at the fifty-eight thing is, if you said it should be fifty-eight and you made the right choices, you should retire at fifty-eight. Go ahead. No one can tell you anything. But if you didn't make the right choices and you want the government and taxpayers to lower retirement age from sixty-five to fifty-eight, no, I think we need to increase social security to seventy-five years old. I think we increase the benefits starting at seventy-five years old.

• 1:34:27Patrick Bet-David?

  When the plan first came out, for every one person that was getting retired, getting social security, forty people paid for one person retiring. Today, it's 2.5 per one person. 2.5 per one person. There's a chart that shows what was happening with the amount of people taking benefits. It just went like this. Skyrocketed. Not sustainable, so no, I'm not with the 58.

• 1:34:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, you know, there's mathematics and there's longevity. If you're gonna be on longevity's side, you take away purpose and appreciation, you accelerate deterioration of human beings. And that's the people that retire early, and if they don't have purpose in life and appreciation, those two things keep you going. And guess what? Faith is a tremendous platform on which to put purpose and appreciation. Continue. You could retire from your regular job, if you made good choices in your 60s, and then you could teach, you can volunteer, but if you don't have purpose and appreciation, you don't get longevity. The other thing is a math problem that you're bringing up, Pat, that the whole nation's gotta figure out.

• 1:35:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, you know what's funny with this story? This leads to the next one, which is, it's so funny that people want this, are the people that didn't make the right choices. Tax inheritance at 100%, okay? So it's the only fair choice, says Louis Goodell, okay? I don't know who this guy is. He's talking about tax, and by the way, this is not just him talking about it, I don't know who this fellow is, but he's a presenter for LBC, co-host of Newsagent Podcast, argues for radical 100% inheritance tax to address wealth inequality, stating, Rob, if you wanna play the clip, go for it.

• 1:36:02Speaker 22

  What we've got at the moment is an aristocracy of wealth in this country. It's also true of the United States as well. So what I would do, what I would do, and I wouldn't be opposed to, by the way, I wouldn't be opposed to 100% inheritance tax. Or maybe, let's say 99%, you know, my, my rule might be that if you can put it in two pea bags, then you can hand it over. That's fine. 99, 95%, I'm being provocative, but you see what I mean? I would not be against a far higher rate of inheritance tax than we have at the moment, which is 40% above a certain threshold. I wouldn't be opposed to putting that to fifty percent, sixty percent, seventy percent. Why? Because I think the quid pro quo should be twofold.

• 1:36:42Speaker 22

  One, that helps fund public services, which actually helps level the playing field in achieving a true meritocracy. Two, it will help us reduce taxes on income. Because at the end of the day, I want to incentivize work. I want to incentivize productivity. I want to incentivize people to get up off their backsides and do more. You don't have a right to inherit.

• 1:37:07Speaker 06

  What?

• 1:37:08Speaker 22

  You should have a right to be, to work while you're alive and get, keep more of your own money. That to me is more important, way more important than your right to just inherit some money from mommy and daddy that you did nothing to earn.

• 1:37:22Speaker 06

  So wait, so wait, so can I, can I understand this guy correctly? He's saying-

• 1:37:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Say you have twenty million dollars-

• 1:37:28Speaker 06

  And I die and I want to give it to my family.

• 1:37:29Patrick Bet-David?

  You have three kids. He thinks your kids should get zero and a hundred percent of it goes to the government.

• 1:37:34Speaker 06

  I hope this guy never, ever gets into any policy.

• 1:37:38Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, he's not alone. There's a lot of liberals like him that-

• 1:37:40Speaker 06

  Oh, I can imagine.

• 1:37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, uh, that, that believe in this. So, Tom, your thoughts on this hundred percent inheritance task, tax that I think Elizabeth Warren and others have also spewed this type of nonsense with inheritance tax? What do you, what do you stand with this?

• 1:37:54Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I'll start with this guy. So, it's not fair for one guy to build a company and build a bunch of jobs for people and then his kids to inherit that. It's not, it's not fair for one. But in the UK, they celebrate the Champions League and only one team wins. It's the best team and that's two point seven out of the thirty-six teams. You see where I'm going, Vinnie? So on one side of life, we celebrate one rising above. On the other side of life, we're jealous of it. Which side do you want? Which side do you want? And how do you legit, and you say, well, they worked harder. They're the Champions League. Your team didn't play defense. Your team was lazy. Your team was poorly led.

• 1:38:35Tom Ellsworth?

  I could say the same thing about citizens and I love this, I make this analogy for people and it causes people to kind of back off their argument a little bit, except the ones that are just basically- Envious, they're envious and their justification is what I think is a very weak statement that he made. It was like, "And it would be more for public services." They're printing money and you're not getting public services. So you're saying if government gets money from a different source, government suddenly is going to be better at providing public services? No, you're justifying your greed and your envy with, "Oh, well, public service will be there and everyone will get it." That's so untrue. And this is, when

• 1:39:20Tom Ellsworth?

  you have people who didn't do it, when you have bureaucrats making laws about businesses, that's when businesses get constrained and overregulated. When you have bureaucrats making laws about inheritance, you now take, you be careful about taking away that incentive to accumulate. Be careful.

• 1:39:40Speaker 06

  So Tommy, right now, if I had $20 million and I passed away and I have two kids, how much is tax going on?

• 1:39:47Adam Sosnick?

  Can I explain this to you?

• 1:39:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, go.

• 1:39:49Adam Sosnick?

  I'm going to tell you, this tax thing, I had to learn the hard way, so to speak. We get taxed to oblivion in this country. We all know about income tax and federal and state and local and people are moving out of New York or California. Then you have employment tax, you have payroll tax, you have mortgage tax, you have gas, you have a car, you have your VAT tax. But then here's the deal, you pay all these taxes and then you die and there's something called the estate tax, the death tax. I learned this because every year with Welcome Funds, my other company, I would go to this event called the Heckling Estate Planning Conference. It's put on by the University of Miami. And the entire premise of the conference is all the leading estate planning attorneys, CPAs,

• 1:40:31Adam Sosnick?

  all the biggest and the biggest of the biggest tax professionals meet up at this one massive meeting and the whole premise is, how do we save our clients, our rich, wealthy clients? Taxes when they die, they're putting together trusts and legacy trusts and life insurance and islets and the whole premise is let's save that money when these people die. You get taxed to oblivion and even when you die and what you have is what's called an exemption. And the Republicans always try to raise it. I think under George W. Bush, David Trump, they made it collectively 20 million, I want to say. Under Obama, he brought it down to 5 million because the Democrats are always looking for more money to basically help pay for things. So they'll tax, tax, tax, tax, tax.

• 1:41:14Adam Sosnick?

  Republicans are like, listen, you already paid a hundred million dollars of tax of your life. Now you want another 20 million of the death tax? So the whole premise is it's taxed to oblivion and even at your death, the, the taxman is going to say, pay up sucker.

• 1:41:27Speaker 06

  So how much, Adam, if I want to give my, my, I die, I have 20 million and I want to give it to my kids? How much is the government going to take before they get it?

• 1:41:33Adam Sosnick?

  Well, it depends on what the exemption is. It depends if you're married and like that. But right now, the current exemption, ask what they turn.

• 1:41:38Speaker 06

  Don't say it's 40.

• 1:41:39Adam Sosnick?

  No, no, no. What's Rob?

• 1:41:40Speaker 06

  How old are you, Pat?

• 1:41:41Adam Sosnick?

  The current estate tax exemption. I want to say when you're married.

• 1:41:44Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's what would happen if you, if you're not, if you're not married, you're single, you got 20 million bucks. The first 14 million, it would be exempt. So you're not paying taxes on the first 14. But you would pay on the six, say whatever progressive tax, the same way they do it, 40% on it. So 40% on the six million, you would pay 2.4 million dollars.

• 1:42:03Adam Sosnick?

  Wow.

• 1:42:04Patrick Bet-David?

  With 2.4 million. So really you're paying 2.4 million on 20 million bucks, right? But if you have a hundred million dollars, you wouldn't pay anything on the first 14. Then you would pay it on the 86. The 86 would still be taxed at 40%. So 40% of 86, you're paying 34 million bucks on the number.

• 1:42:21Adam Sosnick?

  On money you've already been taxed on.

• 1:42:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So you make the money. So let's just, you make a million dollars in a year. Half of it goes towards taxes. You keep the half a million. Okay? Then you take that half a million, everything you buy, you're paying taxes on it. You put that half a million dollars, say you start saving it over the years. Later on, on the half a million. So the, the argument against it is the fact that you're getting taxed on the money you already paid taxes on, on the money that you spend that was already taxed. Why am I paying more taxes? In the States, I think Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders made the argument for 60, 65% estate taxes, period. But this goes back to the following. Why punish the people that made the right choices? Why punish the people that were disciplined with their finances long-term?

• 1:43:04Patrick Bet-David?

  I got a kid over at the house yesterday with this family. You know who these guys are? Soccer. We've spent time with the family. And he starts asking me questions, 11 year old kid. You know, I want to get into the investment field and I'm thinking about starting to invest now and all this other stuff. And I've shown him numbers. I said, you know, Warren Buffett at 50 years old was worth $50 million. And he's worth $200 billion right now. What? Yeah, you know how that happened? How? Compound interest. He's had his money working for him. And it kept growing and growing and growing and growing and growing it. And then eventually he's where he's at right now. But guess what? He's still living in the same house he lived in Nebraska, the $700,000 house. He's still living in the same house. He can afford to buy the biggest house in America. He didn't. He played a very different game.

• 1:43:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Not the most exciting life he lived. He lived a very different life, but the guy's worth a couple hundred billion dollars. But don't punish the person that was disciplined in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. So they can pass that down to their kids. Let them make the decision on what to do with it. You're gonna hear some of these thoughts. Tom, were you gonna say something or no?

• 1:44:05Tom Ellsworth?

  No, you basically hit it as you were covering those points.

• 1:44:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Fantastic.

• 1:44:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm with you.

• 1:44:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so let's go to the next story here. Snoop Dogg, okay? Is going to the movies with his grandson. Okay, it's kind of weird to say Snoop's got grandsons, but that's what happens when you get older. And he goes to this one movie, I think it's called Lightyear or whatever. And in the movie, I'll let him tell you what happens. And he's confused on what happens there. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:44:30Speaker 23

  I took my grandson to see, uh, what was the movie with Buzz Lightyear?

• 1:44:37Speaker 24

  Toy Story?

• 1:44:38Speaker 23

  Not that one, but the same.

• 1:44:38Speaker 24

  Oh, the new Buzz, the Lightyear. I think it's called Lightyear.

• 1:44:42Speaker 23

  Yeah, with Kiki Palmer is in that movie.

• 1:44:43Speaker 24

  Okay, okay.

• 1:44:44Speaker 23

  She plays like the daughter. So we watching it and the lady, which is Kiki's mama. They move on into the space years, they move down the line. They're like, yeah, she had a baby with a woman. And my grandson, in the middle of the movie, like, Papa Snoop, how she have a baby with a woman? She a woman? Oh shit. I didn't come in for this shit. I just came to watch the goddamn movie. Hey man, watch the movie. Uh-uh. They just said, she and she had a baby. They both women. How did she have a baby? Shh, the movie ain't over with.

• 1:45:23Speaker 23

  So it's like, it fucked me. I'm scared to go to the movies now. Like y'all throwing me in the middle of shit that I don't have an answer for.

• 1:45:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Mm-hmm. Vinnie.

• 1:45:31Speaker 06

  I mean, just when you, and what, what, this is a Disney movie?

• 1:45:34Patrick Bet-David?

  Lightyear.

• 1:45:35Speaker 06

  Lightyear. Am I right, Rob? Is that just, just to?

• 1:45:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's a Disney movie.

• 1:45:38Speaker 06

  Check me. Okay, so just when you thought Disney couldn't make it any worse and you thought that they were going to be changing, they find a freaking way. For the last decade.

• 1:45:47Patrick Bet-David?

  But remember, that's a 2022 movie.

• 1:45:49Speaker 06

  No, this one?

• 1:45:50Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, this is 2022 movie.

• 1:45:52Speaker 06

  But still, they still, they're not taking it off. It's like, how, my, my thing is just how much money, how much, I, I, and they're, by the way, I don't think Disney is changing, uh, changing gears, Pat. I think they're still making stuff like this and I just.

• 1:46:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, they're getting rid of this Jacqueline. What's her name? Something Kennedy? Uh, Kathleen Kennedy that gets her job. Her contract's coming up this year or next year, end of 2025, she's stepping away. When is Kathleen Kennedy stepping away, Rob? Do you know the date?

• 1:46:19Speaker 06

  Let me find out.

• 1:46:20Patrick Bet-David?

  And is she with Disney? She's with Disney or she's with?

• 1:46:22Speaker 06

  Lucasfilm.

• 1:46:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Which is Disney, yeah.

• 1:46:24Speaker 06

  Lucasfilm, yeah. And I, and, and, and I get it, Pat. I get, they're changing. I know Bob Iger's, uh, there and he's trying to adjust stuff. But I mean, the, the, this is just the point.

• 1:46:32Patrick Bet-David?

  End of 2025.

• 1:46:32Speaker 06

  They're making people like, even like Snoop, who Snoop is anti-Trump. I'm, I'm, I'm pretty sure he's a freaking Democrat. But I, I, I don't love that it's happening, but it's good to see, Tom, that like for Snoop, for you guys, for it to finally find its way to hit Snoop Dogg, where he has to sit there and explain to a kid, because we talked about it earlier today, to me, that, yo, that's, that's grooming. You're making these kids look like, for the kid to ask that and be so confused at that age, that's not by accident. They're doing it on purpose. And we were talking about earlier in the podcast, how it's what you teach them. And then once it's a certain goal, then they're gone and they're on their own. But this to me, Tom, it, it, it couldn't.

• 1:47:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Stop any, like, they should go back and get rid of those type of things because that's what it's doing.

• 1:47:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And so, you know, it's funny, it's Kathleen Kennedy stepping away, end of the year. She's the one responsible for a lot of this woke stuff. She's the one that every movie, lesbian, all this stuff that they need to have. So there's those conference calls where a couple of the employees called her out. And they got in trouble. But keep in mind, Snoop, when he said he's anti-Trump, he was in 2017 when he said stuff about him, but in 2024, in an interview he did. He said, I got nothing but love for Trump. So I think he's switched and he's now a Trump guy. And, believe it or not, Snoop's a family guy. He's still with the same girl he was before. You know, he says, one of my biggest strengths is the fact that I'm married to the same woman. He's been with the same wife, I don't know how many years. Yeah. There it is. He's got nothing but love, uh, for Trump. He ain't done nothing wrong to me and he has done only great things for me. He pardoned Michael Harris. So this is Snoop. Now.

• 1:48:04Patrick Bet-David?

  The challenge with, uh, this mindset as you're going through it is. Now you're getting some of the people that generally would have supported that to say, dude, just stop with this ridiculous stuff already. It's too much. Leave us alone. Let us just go to the movies and enjoy ourselves. Nope, they can't help themselves. I think bad ideas have consequences and they're paying a price right now where guys like Snoop are talking about it. Like, when would you have thought Snoop would have said something like this?

• 1:48:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Never.

• 1:48:30Patrick Bet-David?

  He wants to live his life. Tom, your thoughts on this? I know you're a big Snoop guy, so just go.

• 1:48:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, no, no, no. You know what? So this is, you know, forget that it's Snoop for a minute. When you go to a movie, um, and you just want to sit at a movie and you're watching it with your kids, you don't want to have to decode things. You know, you just want to go to a movie. And that's what Snoop is talking about. You can go to whatever movies or anything like this, but I think if you're doing movies for kids, you know, remember, one person's grooming is another person's, oh, we're just recognizing society and we're normalizing. So that's the two sides of it and that's the argument you're gonna make. The artistic liberal side's gonna say, we're just representing everyone. And the other side is gonna say, no, you're kind of grooming and you're you're kind of,

• 1:49:15Tom Ellsworth?

  you know, you're trying to normalize it in the mind of my child, which is a grooming act for my child. And you'll say you're just normalizing it for all of society and all of society is repressed. And that's your argument. And then along comes Snoop and you know what's funny? You know, you can have all kinds of people here. Hispanic father, very masculine, white father, white mom, you know, guess what? All of a sudden Snoop, who comes from the artistic side, says something about it and it gets traction. And guess what? Do they call him, do they call him bigoted? Do they call him discriminatory against gays? No, because he comes from their side and they don't know what to do with it.

• 1:49:56Patrick Bet-David?

  That's crazy. You know what's crazy with this, Vinny? Is I think you guys were doing something on Unusual Suspect. And, you know, you guys were talking about Pete Buttigieg, which is very weird. The one thing about black men, they may not say stuff, but numbers speak louder than whatever they say on a podcast or not say on a podcast. Here's Pete Buttigieg. Numbers came out, Rob, can you just take? Can you go on chat GPT?

• 1:50:17Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this the Stephen A. Quaid?

• 1:50:18Patrick Bet-David?

  And ask the, ask the following question, say, is it true? That Pete Buttigieg got no support from black men? Just type this up and by the way, I'm not talking personal life, I'm talking like elections. So did he get no support from black men? Now, I'm not being funny, maybe he did hang out with a black guy, I don't know. So in June of 2025 poll, 0% support for black from black voters. This guy's a liberal, they should support him. A June 2025 Emerson College National Poll indicated that 0% of black respondents said they'd support Pete Buttigieg for the Democratic nomination, not just black men, but black voters overall. The report stressed this wasn't within the margin of error, it was quite literally zero.

• 1:51:03Tom Ellsworth?

  The beard, growing a beard didn't work, huh?

• 1:51:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Can you imagine this? Zero. So I, I don't know. I mean, you know, specifically amongst black male voters? I don't know if that's their space that they're in. So he's like, just leave me alone. Adam, your thoughts on this?

• 1:51:18Tom Ellsworth?

  I mean, when you lose Snoop Dogg, that is a telltale sign you're losing the male vote, whether it's the black vote, what's a Latino vote, whether it's any type of dude. Snoop represents the average guy that's just like, what the hell is going on here? If you know anything about Snoop, here's a guy that's basically focusing on his money, minding his business, like, am I money in my mind, in my mind, in my money? Doing his own thing, rolling down the street, sipping on gin and juice, doing nothing but a G thing, and all of a sudden Buzz Lightyear shows up and you've got lesbian couples adopting kids, and he's like, what the hell is going on here? 10 years ago, when Trump was elected, you could probably find the clip, Snoop was like, "Oh, you cracker, Uncle Tom."

• 1:51:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, he was not like him.

• 1:51:59Tom Ellsworth?

  He went in on black people. 10 years later, he's at the inauguration, "What's up, Trump? That's my dog." Snoop represents the average man who's like, what the hell is going on here in America? When you lose Snoop, you're losing the average man, and Snoop ain't having it anymore. He ain't playing this game.

• 1:52:18Speaker 06

  And I just think it's ridiculous, like, since 2019, they've lost Disney $11 billion. And I get it, this was a 2022 movie, but the question is, like, what was the goal? Like, thank God, thank God people have woken up, and I think Trump played a big part, but what was the goal, Tom? Pushing that agenda, because, Tom, if we didn't say nothing...

• 1:52:38Tom Ellsworth?

  The goal was simple. One man's normalization is another man's grooming.

• 1:52:43Speaker 06

  I think so.

• 1:52:44Tom Ellsworth?

  And they live in the echo chamber of liberal thought. Look at what they... Look at the Academy Awards, look at the Emmy Awards. What do they used to call it? There used to be an acronym for it. Oscar, Emmy, Tony, Grammy, whatever it was. And look at the award shows, and look at what they're celebrating. They're celebrating progressive life, and they're bringing all that progressive life and all their artistic expression, which is their music, their cinema, their stage, and TV. You know, Oscar, Tony, Emmy, that's what they're doing. And to them, they're trying to normalize it. I'm gonna take devil's advocate and say, hey, you know what? I'm a gay woman in Hollywood. I'm just trying to normalize my life. I'm not over the top.

• 1:53:29Tom Ellsworth?

  Remember Norm MacDonald's Saturday Night Live? It was very, very... It was kind of funny. And it was controversial at the time, where he held up, he said, "Well, this week, she might finally made it official." Cover of Time Magazine, Ellen DeGeneres comes out and says, "Yes, I'm gay." And a related story, trying to keep up... Says, "Exercise King Richard Simmons came out and said, 'Yes, I'm really, really, really, really, really, really, really gay.'" And so, and everybody was upset with Norm MacDonald. "How can you do that? Why are you picking him? I wasn't picking on him. I made an obvious joke because he was so out with everything." So, in their echo chamber, and they're there, they think they're just presenting normalized

• 1:54:14Tom Ellsworth?

  people that are part of society. I disagree, but that's where they are.

• 1:54:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's Stephen A. Smith on Bill Maher when he's asked about it. Go ahead, Rob.

• 1:54:22Speaker 02

  Democratic primary voters, 16% would support Buttigieg. That's the highest of any candidate. Pete Buttigieg.

• 1:54:29Speaker 06

  I don't believe it. I think that's just a poll number. I can't see that happening.

• 1:54:32Speaker 02

  Okay, but wait. 16%. Black voters, zero. Zero. You don't usually see zero anywhere. Zero's low.

• 1:54:43Speaker 06

  For who?

• 1:54:45Speaker 02

  For Buttigieg. Explain that. I mean, why do black voters have this... I mean, he's a nice guy? Yeah, he's under-indexing a little bit with the black voters, yeah. A little. What is that all about?

• 1:55:00Speaker 06

  He doesn't move us.

• 1:55:06Speaker 06

  I respect the man. I've interviewed him before. Very nice man, highly intelligent. But you gotta be able to move us, bruh. He doesn't move us. He ain't Trump. You can speculate as to why that is. I'm not going there. He doesn't move us.

• 1:55:22Tom Ellsworth?

  He's basically saying the black community isn't voting for gay Cracker Barrel. And it is what it is. How many times did you hear Trump in a rap song? You don't hear Mitt Romney in a rap song? You don't hear gay Mitt Romney in a rap song? The black community wants to resonate with somebody that moves them.

• 1:55:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Mitt Romney's not gay. This is Pete Buttigieg.

• 1:55:40Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I know, but that's the regular Cracker Barrel.

• 1:55:43Speaker 06

  It's kinda hard. Like, if you can't really say the last... What are the odds that he's a gay guy and the word "but..."

• 1:55:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, you're trying to do that?

• 1:55:49Speaker 06

  No, I'm just trying to judge his booty.

• 1:55:51Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm not. Man, don't do that.

• 1:55:52Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, for what it's worth, let me tell you this. And I'm being as honest as possible, and it's not your fault. I'm not doing that. If Kamala could speak like Pete, she would have had a better chance.

• 1:56:04Speaker 06

  I agree. I agree.

• 1:56:05Patrick Bet-David?

  If Biden would have spoke like Pete, Pete speaks so eloquently. He is so talented with the way he speaks.

• 1:56:11Speaker 06

  And sober most of the time.

• 1:56:13Patrick Bet-David?

  So talented the way he speaks, but guess what? America's just not ready for something like that today.

• 1:56:17Speaker 06

  He needs to start using his asses a little bit.

• 1:56:19Patrick Bet-David?

  No, he's the alpha. He's the alpha in the relationship.

• 1:56:22Speaker 06

  People talk about him.

• 1:56:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me go to this next relationship.

• 1:56:24Speaker 06

  That's a sober explanation.

• 1:56:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you guys what the next one I'm gonna go to. Okay. So the next story I'm gonna go to is Mamdani fails at a bench press while trying to show off at a men's day in Brooklyn as Cuomo Adams roast the rival. So watch this. This is Mamdani. I thought he was trying to bench two plates. But no, he's out there doing what? He's benching a plate, which is 135 pounds.

• 1:56:51Speaker 06

  No, that's a 35. That's not a 40.

• 1:56:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you joking?

• 1:56:54Speaker 06

  Pat, those are... Look, once Robbie plays it, Pat, you know. Tell me that. That's not a 45.

• 1:56:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it says, it says 135 pounds.

• 1:57:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:57:02Patrick Bet-David?

  So 135 pounds is a 45 pound plate on it.

• 1:57:04Speaker 06

  I don't believe it. I don't believe it.

• 1:57:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, that's a different thing you want to question. I'm just saying, that's what it is.

• 1:57:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, and the bar is 40, right?

• 1:57:08Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, by the way, and the bar is 45. And then, uh, Scott, uh, Adams goes out there and does the same thing. He says 64 versus 33. Who knows? Maybe afterwards, we'll go do a bench press, all four of us, and we'll even include Rob.

• 1:57:21Speaker 06

  Can we?

• 1:57:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And it will post it only in the PBD Podcast Circle. Some of you guys can just go watch it, uh, you know, for yourself and just comment on it. But go ahead. Go ahead, Rob. Show us the clip.

• 1:57:30Speaker 06

  Look at the competition? So Pat, look at the size. Pat, that's not a 45, Z.

• 1:57:34Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a 45, really.

• 1:57:35Speaker 06

  No, I think it's small.

• 1:57:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the thickness. It's 45. Somebody would have pointed out. No one said it's 35 so far. Maybe you're right. I don't know.

• 1:57:42Speaker 06

  It might be a 35. Look, he doesn't even know how to... Look at it. He can't... Like, how do I grab it? Too close.

• 1:57:48Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't have the line straight. Oh, that's bad.

• 1:57:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow, he's never gone to the gym. This is a bad look. This is like Dukakis getting in a tank.

• 1:57:57Speaker 06

  Yeah. Z, look. Look, he's like...

• 1:57:58Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah!

• 1:57:59Speaker 06

  Well, look, the guy curls it. The guy curls it up.

• 1:58:04Speaker 06

  Look, he's like his legs. He can't even do it.

• 1:58:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not getting three.

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• 1:59:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Powerful. Do you have Mayor Adams? Rob, have you seen that one where Mayor Adams gets up on what he does? So he's 63. And how does Cuomo respond to it? Apparently Andrew also responded to it in a certain way. I've not seen that one, but he looks like a guy that could probably bench a couple. Yeah, that's not the one. Just go to Mayor Adams. Right there, watch this. He says 63 versus 53. He's the one on the left.

• 1:59:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you even touch in the bar?

• 1:59:38Speaker 06

  I don't get off. You little guy, I'd be like, yo, get off the bar.

• 1:59:42Patrick Bet-David?

  So, by the way, go to his account.

• 1:59:44Speaker 06

  He's doing this.

• 1:59:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You know how many views that got on his account? How many views? 6.7 million. That's good. He's getting some traction because Adams is not a big Twitter guy. I think he's only got like 100,000 followers. Go up on his account, Rob, I'm how many followers he's got? Yeah, 112,000 followers. Go to Mamdani's account.

• 1:59:57Speaker 06

  Oh, what would you say? Did you have a take?

• 1:59:59Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna put him at 550, 600. He's exploded. M'Donny's at 600, exactly. Where's Andrew Cuomo? Andrew Cuomo should be in the millions, but it's not because of today. It's because of where he was at before. If you go to that, Andrew Cuomo, oh my god, that's terrible. That just tell, by the way, do you remember when Mike Pence, Vivek, all of these guys were running? How I brought Vivek up? When I had him at the office, when I had him at the other place?

• 2:00:25Adam Sosnick?

  His Twitter was blowing up, it was 10,000 people a day or something like that.

• 2:00:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Plus minus on their Twitter account. The only candidate that lost followers was Mike Pence. No one was even close on the way Vivek had grown on Twitter followership. So here's a question, Tom, how many times can you bench press 135 pounds?

• 2:00:44Speaker 06

  This?

• 2:00:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Vinny, how many times?

• 2:00:46Speaker 06

  If, and we're gonna record this and do this after?

• 2:00:48Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna do it right afterwards, we're gonna put on our podcast circle. How many times can you do it?

• 2:00:53Speaker 06

  So, so, and by the way, I'm telling you right now, those are 35 pound plates. I'm not, I, I, I put money on it. They look 35.

• 2:00:59Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, well, Adams did 45, 135, 135 pounds.

• 2:01:02Speaker 06

  I will do 20 in a row.

• 2:01:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, Adam.

• 2:01:07Speaker 06

  With no spot, no spot.

• 2:01:08Adam Sosnick?

  Haven't done, what are we doing?

• 2:01:11Speaker 06

  Probably more.

• 2:01:12Patrick Bet-David?

  135 pounds, bench.

• 2:01:14Speaker 06

  With no spot.

• 2:01:15Adam Sosnick?

  I'm gonna do one more than Vinny and 50 more than Tom.

• 2:01:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, how many can you do?

• 2:01:20Adam Sosnick?

  One, if he's lucky.

• 2:01:22Patrick Bet-David?

  We have to do it.

• 2:01:23Adam Sosnick?

  We have to.

• 2:01:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I'm gonna do it in a circle.

• 2:01:24Adam Sosnick?

  Tom, can you do, do you think Tom can do one?

• 2:01:27Patrick Bet-David?

  We're gonna do it.

• 2:01:27Speaker 06

  Of course he can.

• 2:01:28Adam Sosnick?

  One!

• 2:01:29Patrick Bet-David?

  I don't know.

• 2:01:29Speaker 06

  Yes, yes, I got money on it.

• 2:01:31Adam Sosnick?

  You don't believe in Tom, Pat?

• 2:01:32Patrick Bet-David?

  It's not that, listen.

• 2:01:33Adam Sosnick?

  135, he weighs 135.

• 2:01:35Patrick Bet-David?

  Dude, the first day I went into the gym.

• 2:01:37Adam Sosnick?

  It's not a pocket protector contest, can you do one?

• 2:01:40Patrick Bet-David?

  I could barely do the bar. It's, it's your body, if you're not accustomed to doing it, it could be awkward, but we'll spot Tom. And we'll see what Tom will do.

• 2:01:46Speaker 06

  You know who's the strongest? Humberto? Has like an ox strength. This guy's a freaking machine.

• 2:01:52Patrick Bet-David?

  What we are gonna do is.

• 2:01:54Adam Sosnick?

  Guys, I'm just playing with you, Tom's the strongest guy here. He's, he's gonna bang out 50 of them.

• 2:01:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, we are, we are definitely gonna, what happened to Rob, by the way? Just.

• 2:02:01Speaker 06

  I think he quit.

• 2:02:02Adam Sosnick?

  Rob went to go work out. He's doing his, Rob, where'd you go, buddy?

• 2:02:06Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, got it.

• 2:02:07Adam Sosnick?

  Adam, where did you go, Rob?

• 2:02:08Speaker 06

  Podcast pee impersonation.

• 2:02:09Patrick Bet-David?

  So, so Rob, let's, can you put up the, can you put up the circle QR code? Put up the circle QR code, guys. Right afterwards, go download the PBD Podcast Circle. You'll get all the notes. There's a freemium model to it where you can only see what we're talking about, but you can't comment or do anything. Right afterwards, we're gonna go in our gym in these outfits and we're gonna test to see how much everybody benches.

• 2:02:30Speaker 06

  And so by the way, you notice how somebody was spotting him? That's a typical socialist. Somebody else is doing all the work and he's taking the credit for it. And by the way, he turned 33 years old yesterday. You know, how strong were we when we were 30? Mamdani turned 33 yesterday. And you know, I realized, what's that saying that Adam says a lot? Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men and weak men create hard times. Well, guess what? That weak guy is about to create some hard times for New York and it's coming, baby.

• 2:02:57Adam Sosnick?

  There you go.

• 2:02:58Speaker 06

  It's coming.

• 2:02:58Adam Sosnick?

  And Eric Adams is a... If it was a push-up contest, he'd win the election. Unfortunately, it is a giveaway contest and he's not gonna win.

• 2:03:07Patrick Bet-David?

  You're not wrong when it comes down to that. All right, let's go to Vance reveals what Putin has conceded in Ukraine peace deal negotiations with Trump. Uh, Rob, is that the clip? Okay, go for it.

• 2:03:21Speaker 25

  I didn't say they conceded on everything, but what they have conceded is the recognition that Ukraine will have territorial integrity after the war. They've recognized that they're not gonna be able to install a puppet regime in Kiev. That was, of course, a major demand at the beginning. And importantly, they've acknowledged that there is going to be some security guarantee to the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Again, have they made every concession? Of course they haven't. Should they have started the war? Of course they haven't, but we're making progress, Kristen. And what I admire about the president in this moment is he's not asking, three and a half years ago, he's not, you know, trying to focus on every nitpicky detail of how this thing started three and a half years ago.

• 2:04:02Speaker 25

  He's trying to focus on the nitpicky details of now, of what do the parties disagree on? What do they agree on? And how do you build a foundation from one side of that ledger to the other so that you can stop the killing?

• 2:04:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom. Well, I love J.D. Vance, and there's a part of this where he absolutely toasted her. What was the thing we saw? You know, where if you're a fifth grader could understand it, right?

• 2:04:28Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 2:04:29Speaker 26

  Where exactly is the pressure on Russia to do anything if you're not right now imposing new sanctions? How do you get them to a place of getting to the table with Zelensky and stopping to drop bombs?

• 2:04:40Speaker 25

  But Kristin, I think that question betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of where we are. The president has applied aggressive economic leverage. For example, the secondary tariffs on India to try to make it harder for the Russians to get rich from their oil economy. He's tried to make it clear that Russia can be re-invited into the world economy if they stop the killing, but they're going to continue to be isolated if they don't stop the killing. The president has applied more economic pressure to the Russians to stop this war than Biden did in three years. So the idea that we're not doing anything, we're already doing things right now, and this is how negotiation works. You do something, you talk to the parties, you try to see if there's a meeting of minds.

• 2:05:22Speaker 25

  Again, we believe we've already seen some significant concessions from both sides just in the last few weeks. We're going to eventually be successful, or we'll hit a brick wall. And if we hit a brick wall, then we're going to continue this process of negotiation of applying leverage. This is the energetic diplomacy that's going to bring this war to a close.

• 2:05:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom. Have a nice day. I mean, Charlie Kirk came out and says, can you believe that our vice president was having to speak to Kristen Welker like he's talking to a fifth grader? And I agree with that sentiment. You know, she came in just like the media comes in. It's the old phrase about, you know, you walk into the courtroom, you look at the judge, and you can all, in the old days, you could always already tell the judge is staring at you, saying, okay, I'm cooked, right? This is already over. I might as well not even have my trial. And so you have Kristen Walker coming in with the angle, "Oh, you're so wrong. You could be doing sanctions, doing that." Look at it. All they care about is Trump being wrong. They don't care about the people of Ukraine. They don't care about ending the war. All

• 2:06:23Tom Ellsworth?

  they care about is Trump being wrong, number one. And number two, they've also got this, it's kind of funny. You have to look at it with sober eyes, Pat, and realize that the Dems have become the party of war. And the liberal side has become the party of war. And that's, and to me, it's like, they're not listening to rational thought. I mean, other places in that interview, it was a longer interview, J.D. Vance pointed out, he says, "Kristen, at the end of World War I, it ended with a negotiation. At the end of World War II, it ended with a negotiation." All except, that was, there was a whole Potsdam Conference, right? "All except in the Pacific. After two atomic weapons, first

• 2:07:04Tom Ellsworth?

  time weapons like that have been used on civilian slash military targets ever." You know, Japan was sitting there on the, on the USS Missouri, sitting there just saying, "Just what do I got to sign? We got to get out of this. We're done." And so they surrendered. Everything else, you know, Hitler takes his own life, if you believe that's the way it happened. Mussolini is gutted in the public square in the horrific graphic circumstances. But then, guess what? The US, the Soviets, and the Brits get together and negotiate the end of World War II. All the major wars end with negotiations, and that's where we are right now. And we have gotten a major, major thing. Remember, one of the key spark

• 2:07:46Tom Ellsworth?

  points was Russia. "I do not want NATO country on my front lawn." And I do not want that. And the warhawks, Nikki Haley and others, wanted that to happen. They wanted to dare the Russians. They wanted to poke them. Well, guess what? So, one of the things he didn't want was that. But now, you've got Putin saying, "Look, I understand some security guarantees are going to be part of this." Do you hear what that is? That's Putin saying, "Yeah, I get it. So if we stop this war, you don't want it to happen again, security guarantees will be out there with NATO countries and the United States." That's a movement for Putin, if exactly what Vance said is correct.

• 2:08:31Tom Ellsworth?

  But why would Vance say something incorrect like that and jeopardize negotiations? Putin say, "Wait a minute, what's he saying this on a Sunday news show? I didn't say that." And so, I think we're headed in the right direction. And it's our liberal media, once again, you know, "Trump wrong, Trump bad."

• 2:08:49Adam Sosnick?

  So, our friend Kristen Welker interviewed not only JD Vance, but also Sergey Lavrov. And if you don't know who that guy is, he's been Putin's spokesman for decades now. This guy is classically trained, KGB, like he's running circles around anyone who interviews him. And he kind of gives this like air of diplomacy, but when you're not looking, this guy will rip your heart out in an instant. He is the guy that Putin trusts the most. So, he and JD Vance were on Meet the Press this past Sunday, obviously not on together. Here's what I took away from Sergey Lavrov's interview. Russia's not ending this war anytime soon. We had this conversation, we're a week, 10 days past Putin flying in and doing the whole

• 2:09:34Adam Sosnick?

  B2 bomber thing, and there's been zero ceasefire since. I said there was a 99% chance that no deal would be reached anytime soon. People looked at me like I was crazy, nothing's been done. If anything, soon as the meeting was done, Russia went on attacking Ukraine. This war continues to go on. They firmly believe, the Russians, that Ukraine is just part of Russia. That's that. US is trying to be a mediator here, and we'll see what happens. But they want to install a Putin puppet in Ukraine, and we'll see what happens with Zelensky. As far as JD Vance, just a little quick take, JD Vance is basically the straight Pete Buttigieg. I like JD Vance, I would vote. For JD Vance, I think he's logical, I think he's pragmatic, I think he's sharp, I think he's a

• 2:10:18Adam Sosnick?

  great vice president. But if it comes time for him to run in 2028, as Stephen A. Smith, he doesn't move us. There's not a lot of oomph there, there's not a lot of je ne sais quoi, he don't resonate resonate with the people. So we'll see what happens with JD.

• 2:10:34Patrick Bet-David?

  He doesn't move who?

• 2:10:35Adam Sosnick?

  The black people, the minorities.

• 2:10:37Patrick Bet-David?

  The black Jewish people?

• 2:10:38Adam Sosnick?

  People with swag, exactly, exactly. People who need to be resonated, exactly.

• 2:10:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, thank you for that.

• 2:10:44Adam Sosnick?

  You know, the whites, like Tom would vote for him, but people with swag, I don't know if they're gonna vote for JD Vance. So he is the straight Pete.

• 2:10:52Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't know what that focus about, you know, we can go back and forth on certain things, but on the racial stuff, man, that just pisses me off when you do that. Okay.

• 2:11:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, that was...

• 2:11:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Is this white on white crime right now?

• 2:11:07Patrick Bet-David?

  It is.

• 2:11:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Is that what's happening?

• 2:11:08Patrick Bet-David?

  So can we distract it with a with a quick live rev?

• 2:11:12Tom Ellsworth?

  You're not white?

• 2:11:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Rob, play this clip just for the first 45 seconds, Tom just snapped. By the way, Tom, look at me, keep that mindset before you bench.

• 2:11:20Adam Sosnick?

  Yeah!

• 2:11:20Patrick Bet-David?

  We need that mindset before you bench. Go ahead, Rob. Go ahead, Rob. Go ahead.

• 2:11:24Speaker 26

  Bottom line, bottom line, there's no meeting planned.

• 2:11:27Speaker 27

  President Putin said clearly that he is ready to meet, provided this meeting is really going to have an agenda, presidential agenda.

• 2:11:38Speaker 26

  So that's a big if. There's no meeting planned, Mr. Foreign Minister. That's a big if. You're saying there's no meeting planned right now.

• 2:11:45Speaker 27

  Kristin, Kristin, I am awfully sorry, you're not listening. There is no meeting planned, and I am not challenging this. But you, you cannot, cannot, I think, understand what I am saying. Putin is ready to meet with Zelensky, when the agenda would be ready for a summit.

• 2:12:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Because Zelensky didn't agree to something very basic.

• 2:12:11Speaker 27

  And this agenda is not ready at all. President Trump suggested... After Enkovich, several points which we share. And on some of them, we agreed to be, to show some flexibility.

• 2:12:24Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:12:25Speaker 27

  When President Trump brought those issues to the meeting in Washington, with Zelensky present, together with his European sponsors, he clearly indicated, it was very clear to everybody that there are several principles which Washington believes must be accepted, including no NATO membership, including the discussion of territorial issues. And Zelensky said no to everything. He even said no to, as I said, to cancelling legislation prohibiting the Russian language. How can we meet with a person who is pretending to be a leader?

• 2:13:11Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so there you go. So you're hearing it from him, it was a 58-minute interview. We'll follow up more on this on the next podcast that we're having on Wednesday, gang. Again, if you want to watch the bench press for Tom, I think everybody wants to see Tom, that's really what everybody wants to see. If you want to see that, go download Manect Circles, go to the PPT Podcast Circle. You have tiers, the lowest one is freemium, just go sign up to be able to see. You can't comment, come join us, we're about to go see who can bench the most. God bless everybody, bye bye, bye bye.

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