Kylie on Rooting For Travis, WNBA's FAFO Energy & Banned Kids TV Shows with Jerrod Carmichael | Ep. 28

Kylie’s back for a brand new episode of Not Gonna Lie presented by Visible and kicks things off by acknowledging some fun reminders of the fact that she and Jason share a studio space at their shore house. Then, with NFL training camp officially underway, Kylie gets honest about her family’s experience with Jason at Eagles camp over the years (2:42), including the girls’ real motive to visit their dad at the training facility and the public outrage over some videos of Jason playing with the girls in past seasons. Also, Kylie reacts to the major statement made by the WNBA All Stars when they took the court wearing shirts that said “Pay Us What You Owe Us” (4:59). Kylie gets into the misconceptions about this message and why she believes the players need to start getting compensated appropriately considering the new revenue and popularity of the game. Kylie then rounds out Doomscroll of the Week by responding to the news of Ms. Rachel ranking at the top of the Netflix charts. She then reveals even more thoughts on children’s television with her “No Lie Parents’ Guide to Kids TV" (8:24). Some of the categories include “Educational Shows with Music That Also Slaps,” “What the F*ck Is Going On Here?” and “No Offense, But These Shows Are Banned In My House.” After that, Kylie is joined by Emmy Award winning stand up comedian Jerrod Carmichael (17:27)! Kylie and Jerrod talk about the insane way they first met which was at Travis’ game against the Bills where Jason famously ripped off his shirt and jumped out of the suite to chug beers on national television. Jerrod breaks down his first impression of all the Kelces (18:09). Kylie and Jerrod also talk about how his friendship with Travis has turned him into a Chiefs fan and how he managed to avoid Cowboys fandom even though his dad rooted for them his whole life (21:15). Jerrod also asks Kylie for any tips on how to raise a “cool kid” for the future (25:10). Then, Kylie talks about some of her favorite parts of Jerrod’s latest stand up special on HBO Max called “Don’t Be Gay” including his take on celebrities who claim they don’t read the comments (30:08). Kylie also asks Jerrod about his big time hosting roles for the Golden Globes and SNL and which one he was more nervous for (34:33). Jerrod speaks to some of the controversy surrounding his Globes monologue and they manifest another SNL appearance. Lastly, Kylie and Jerrod talk about his acting roles in "Transformers" since Kylie is such a fan of the franchise, as well as what it was like acting with Emma Stone in the Oscar-winning film "Poor Things" (39:28). Make sure you tune into More Sh*t Monday on the Not Gonna Lie YouTube channel for more exclusive clips from Kylie’s longer conversation with Jerrod Carmichael! . . . Purchase NGL Merch: www.nglkylie.com Support the Show: Visible: Ready for wireless that lets you live in the know? Make the switch at https://www.visible.com/ One line wireless starting at $25 a month. For our best features, get the new Visible+ Pro plan for $45/mo. Watch Jerrod’s Stand Up Special: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/jerrod-carmichael-dont-be-gay/797f6457-02b4-4309-8996-998dcf203d0d Donate to PBS: https://foundation.pbs.org/donation/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:58Kylie Kelce?

  Not gonna lie, we're at the beach. So if you hear kids stomping, I can't help you. Let's get this podcast started.

• 1:11Kylie Kelce?

  Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a Wave original, brought to you by Visible. Live in the know. I'm your host, Kylie Kelsey. I was reluctantly in a documentary called Kelsey. According to Sharon on YouTube, I have a potty mouth. Thanks, Sharon. And I unfortunately do know what a labubu is. They're haunting me. I saw one hanging off of someone's purse. I'm not sure if it was a labubu or a lafoofoo. What are we doing? Also, people calling it a bag charm, it's not a bag charm, it's a keychain. The fuck? Also, you can see I'm taping from our shorehouse set today. Jason went on record saying that my setup makes him look better, which...

• 1:58Kylie Kelce?

  I think it's very hard for him to look bad. So let's start there. But second, that is almost to me saying that this is enhancing for me. Also, when I came in to put my headphones on, they were stretched out. It was like the cutest little like, oh, he was here. But also, I look good without these lights. I almost, I almost said it with my whole chest. Almost. Then I was like, mm, they're really helping the bags under my eyes. Okay, coming up on today's episode, NFL training camp starts this week. So I'm going to get honest about our family's experience with Eagles camp over the years.

• 2:39Kylie Kelce?

  After that, you're going to hear my conversation with Emmy award winning standup comedian Gerard Carmichael. I had no business talking to Gerard, but it was incredible. We got to chat for the first time ever in Buffalo. When Jason jumped out of the suite and did his whole like, ah, shirtless. But before we get to that, quick merch update. We've officially restocked and extended our range of sizes on our merch. We've got you, real ones. Check it out now at nglkylie.com. Queen Emma knows that I can't let this one go. So if anyone knows a person who owns nglwithkylie.com and they want to rat them out

• 3:23Kylie Kelce?

  or they want to, you know, come forward themselves, like just, just come forward and tell us. We want to know. We just want to have a conversation. All right, moving on, let's get into the brand new edition of Can I Be Honest? This week, can I be honest about NFL training camp? I'm gonna be. This is now the second training camp since my husband has retired. So I want you to take all of these thoughts with a grain of salt. I know we are two years removed now and it's lovely. For anyone who isn't familiar with the NFL, as of today, 32 teams have officially started training camp. That's basically preseason, okay? Another name for it. The Eagles have the option for the guys to stay overnight.

• 4:07Kylie Kelce?

  Jason, when we were living in the suburbs, would often just move down to the hotel because they are there for so many hours during the day. And then all he does is go to sleep, get up and do the exact same thing the next day. And then they would get one day off a week. And he would come home the night before, be home all day the next day, and then report back. The best part about being a spouse during preseason is when preseason's over.

• 4:41Kylie Kelce?

  It's not great, even if, even when Jason would stay at home for training camp, it was still, the only thing we got to do was like sleep next to each other. So he wasn't home for dinner, he wasn't home for breakfast. So while Jason was playing, we had Wyatt, Ellie, and Benny. So in an effort for the girls to see Jason and to get to play with him and sort of enjoy some time, we would go to training camp probably once or twice a week. But the girls would love to go to training camp for two reasons. Number one, Rita's water eyes. And number two, they got to play with Jason on the field afterwards.

• 5:23Kylie Kelce?

  There's a lot of videos over the years that have come out, specifically Jason playing with the trashcans. People were bothered by that because it was a trashcan. But what you don't know is that at those practices, those trashcans are just used to store footballs. So it's not gross. There wasn't trash in the trashcan prior to my children being in the trashcan.

• 5:46Kylie Kelce?

  So not that weird. That does it for Can I Be Honest About Training Camp. Moving on, let's get to Doom Scroll of the Week. First up on Doom Scroll, the WNBA All-Stars made a statement in badass fashion. Okay, when they came out for their warmups, their T-shirt said, "Pay us what you owe us." Nafisa Collier from the Minnesota Lynx said it best. Queen Emma, the clip?

• 6:12Speaker 03

  What do you mean by what you owe us?

• 6:15Kylie Kelce?

  You know, the players is what is building this brand and this league. There is no league without the players. And you know, the past, present, the ones coming out, they're the ones that have put in the blood, sweat and tears for the new money that's coming in. And so we feel like we are all a piece of that pie that we helped to create. This feels very much like fuck around and find out energy. The league fucking around. The players said, find out, check out my shirt, you know? These WNBA players currently make 9% of the league's revenue, which is low. You want to know why I know it's low? Because the NBA players make 50% of the league's revenue.

• 7:00Kylie Kelce?

  That's crazy. That is a massive disparity. Players, uh, they're just looking for a larger share of the revenue. And this is an important point. They are not looking to be paid as much as the men. Okay, they're not looking for that because I think that's important to share. A lot of people, when they take issue with these conversations, are having issue with the fact that the women's side of the sports are not bringing in the same amount of revenue. And so therefore, how are they supposed to be paid out at the same level as the men? Obviously, the WNBA knows what they're negotiating. The people whose argument is that they are not bringing in as much money as the men can

• 7:45Kylie Kelce?

  kick rocks because that's not what the WNBA is trying to do. The new media rights for the WNBA, they will be worth 2.2 billion. If they have increased their value in media by six times, then we need to jump that percentage so that the players can get paid out appropriately. As Nafisa said, they're the ones who are creating the entertainment to bring in this revenue. They are the personalities that people are latching on to. They are the athletes that people are there to support. They are why the fans are there. You're not getting money unless those women are on that court. We're going to have in the WNBA, three new teams by 2030.

• 8:31Kylie Kelce?

  Shout out Philly. The ratings are up 23%. Ticket sales are up 26% since last year. We know that this has only sparked a fire that is burning bright. Okay. We are watching women's sports more than ever. But we need to make sure that our female athletes know that they can be compensated appropriately for being someone worth following. They are role models to young women everywhere. And they are bringing in the revenue that they should get a share of. I love these shirts. I love the fuck around and find out energy. And to round out my doom scroll, I scrolled my way to an article from The Wrap with some

• 9:14Kylie Kelce?

  news about one of my favorite kids TV shows. The headline says, Miss Rachel was the seventh most watched show on Netflix in the first half of 2025. It was also the most watched season of children's television on Netflix. Miss Rachel, go off. We love that. I have said multiple times that we love Miss Rachel. And Miss Rachel is great because she sings the songs that you would love. She does legitimate speech pathology tactics and practices within the show. And also, my kids love her. Since I'm talking Miss Rachel, I figured now would be a great time to debut a new NGL guide for parents looking for screen time recommendations this summer.

• 10:00Kylie Kelce?

  As always, these are my personal opinions about kids shows. That doesn't mean you need to agree. And if you watch any of the ones that I may or may not talk some smack about, that's, that's great. I'm going to be honest, I have no other way to function. So presenting my no lie parents guide to kids TV. My first category, put this on if you want something educational, but the music also slaps. Miss Rachel? Obvious. Okay.

• 10:32Kylie Kelce?

  Little Bunny Sleeping? We were on that so hard. I can't tell you how many videos I have of my children pretending to go to sleep on the living room floor before they hopped the crap out of the rest of the song. Also, Sesame Street. It's a throwback. Big Bird is aging like fine wine. Really, I want to know his skincare routine because he doesn't look a day older than when I used to watch him when I was little. It's crazy. The second category, I've seen every episode a hundred times and I'm actually okay with that. I'm going to tell you one of my favorite ones, and I think I am, I think this is most parents' favorites, Bluey. First of all, short episodes. I love

• 11:15Kylie Kelce?

  that because before bed, we can say, one, two, three episodes. Worse, even if you watch three episodes, you're barely hitting the threshold that you would hit if you watch one episode of something else. I love that. Another one that is very rewatchable, Peppa Pig. Simple. It is lovely. It is honestly kind of funny. Have you seen Daddy Pig? Zaboomafu. This is, this is mine. Zaboomafu is mine. I put it on selfishly. I love that lemur. I love that he looks a little unhinged. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

• 11:59Kylie Kelce?

  That show is for me. Third category, shows from my childhood I want them to appreciate. The Big Comfy Couch is the first one. Lunette and Molly are just hanging out on a couch. There's some dust bunnies underneath. They pull things out of the cushions. It's, it's a great show. The other shows that we watch from my childhood is SpongeBob. Classic. I don't need to explain myself. PB and J Otter.

• 12:26Kylie Kelce?

  I can liter- the second I said that, it started the whoa. It's stuck in my head. And the last one, Bear in the Big Blue House. When he leans forward and sniffs the screen in the beginning, it looks just like Baloo. It's so cute. I miss that dog. The fourth category is shows to put on when mom needs to get other shit done. Okay. Big one, dishes. Anything of like, that I can't have kids interested in.

• 12:59Kylie Kelce?

  Sometimes it's just a matter of sending an email, or maybe I can't do something while someone's talking to me, so I need to give them one episode of something. And these are the shows that I, these are the shows that I put on. Number one, Tots. I'm pretty sure I've expressed our love for Tots on here. Tots, number one, we listen to the soundtrack in the car. Outstanding. It's very good underrated soundtrack. I have woken up multiple times at 2am, singing the song in my head. They just get stuck in there. And the other one, Puppy Pals. Bingo and Roly are up to something. Category five, what the fuck is going on here?

• 13:41Kylie Kelce?

  These are shows that, I really just have, I have a lot of questions. Number one, Yo Gabba Gabba. What the fuck? I'm sorry, what are, what are they?

• 13:56Kylie Kelce?

  If you've not seen that, you should look it up. Just, just Google Yo Gabba Gabba, and you will literally say, what the fuck? Chicken Squad. Why are chickens doing missions? Why are they doing missions? I'm confused. I like chickens, but I'm confused about this show. The last category, no offense, but it's banned from my house. Okay. These shows are banned for a multitude of reasons. Some of them, I'm pretty sure there are

• 14:27Kylie Kelce?

  studies that have shown that these shows are not correct. They're, they shouldn't be. Let's just get into it. Number one, Cocoon Melon.

• 14:41Kylie Kelce?

  No aggressively, no. So know that if Cocohellen comes up on any of the screens, my daughters say, "Oh, we're not allowed to watch that." Because I have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down. We are not watching Cocohellen in our house. I do think that we should question anything that locks kids in the way Cocohellen locks them in, specifically as early as Cocohellen does. Now, if you don't have kids yet, or you haven't seen Cocohellen, you might think I'm being a little unreasonable and a little dramatic,

• 15:26Kylie Kelce?

  but you're fucking wrong. It is, it is not good. Sorry Cocohellen. No, I'm not. I'm not, you're not allowed in my house. Don't come over. Yeah, I'm not answering the door. Blippi.

• 15:43Kylie Kelce?

  I don't even know where to start with this one. Blippi is weird to me. I don't like it. I don't, I understand that some of it is educational. I understand that it started, like, as an educational base. I'm good. Uh, Teletubbies. This one is banned for a very specific reason. Ellie thinks it's creepy. They have TVs in their bellies. What? This, Teletubbies could kind of double. They could, they cross categories here because they could definitely go in category five with what the fuck is going on here. But they are also very much banned from our house. So, Teletubbies, both category five and category six. Let's just

• 16:25Kylie Kelce?

  go there. Last thing on my kids TV guide. You'll notice I listed Sesame Street, a PBS show, in the top tier here. And that's because it's a timeless educational institution that everyone deserves to access. You see what I'm saying? Everyone deserves access to PBS. Don't worry. I'll be making a donation to the local PBS station. I encourage others to do the same.

• 16:52Kylie Kelce?

  And that does it for Doom Scroll of the Week. Gerard Carmichael is coming up right after this message from me about Visible. Today's episode of NGL is brought to you by Visible. Everyone loves a good hack, whether it be a makeup hack, a cooking hack, or even a parenting hack like my trusty time out step, or the fact that the candy and treats that are at the register in the grocery store, they live there.

• 17:19Kylie Kelce?

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• 18:03Kylie Kelce?

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• 18:50Speaker 01

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• 19:21Kylie Kelce?

  He's the Emmy Award winning stand-up comedian, writer, and actor you know from The Carmichael Show and his comedy special, Rathaniel. He's also hosted the Golden Globes and Saturday Night Live, and he just released a brand new stand-up special called Don't Be Gay on HBO Max. And now he's officially, not gonna lie, Gerard Carmichael, welcome to the show.

• 19:40Speaker 04

  Hey. It is funny hearing the title like, oh, it is called Don't Be Gay. Happy Pride, everyone.

• 19:48Kylie Kelce?

  For anyone who doesn't know, we met the first time at my brother-in-law's game in Buffalo.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  We were in Buffalo. We were in Buffalo.

• 19:56Kylie Kelce?

  Why did we choose Buffalo?

• 19:58Speaker 04

  You know, because we like excitement. We like an adventure. We like to see people shirtless jumping through flames.

• 20:05Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah. Now, when you were introduced to, like, our family, because my mother-in-law was there, I believe my father-in-law was there with us as well. When you were introduced to the Kelseys, did you think that it was going to end up with someone shirtless jumping out of the suite?

• 20:19Speaker 04

  You can't really expect that. You can't expect that because you think you're meeting a family and you don't expect, like, anybody to take their shirt off.

• 20:27Kylie Kelce?

  You think they'll be on their best behavior.

• 20:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. But it was fun. Your mother-in-law is really cool.

• 20:33Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 20:34Speaker 04

  Speaking of not gonna lie.

• 20:35Kylie Kelce?

  Right.

• 20:36Speaker 04

  I really, I meet her and, like, she's, like, so nice and so kind and sees past all my bullshit.

• 20:46Speaker 04

  Like, that's why I love, like, I'm just like, like, I can't, I don't do the fake voice work because she's like, it's not, it's not gonna work.

• 20:52Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 20:52Speaker 04

  She's just, she's like, I love her.

• 20:54Kylie Kelce?

  Did she make you work for it a little bit?

• 20:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:56Kylie Kelce?

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:57Speaker 04

  That's why I like, because it's just like, none of that, she's like, save it. Like, with, with, like, it, like, sweet, it's, she's not mean at all, but it's just like-

• 21:04Kylie Kelce?

  No, very sweet.

• 21:04Speaker 04

  Very sweet, but just like, I, I don't need this.

• 21:07Kylie Kelce?

  That's lovely.

• 21:08Speaker 04

  I don't need the thing that you're like, hey, nice, how's the weather? Like, I don't need that shit.

• 21:13Kylie Kelce?

  She doesn't want small talk.

• 21:14Speaker 04

  She doesn't want small talk. I love that.

• 21:16Kylie Kelce?

  I love that. Go ahead, Donna. We have the photo right there of Jason.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was cra- because Jason's really, I mean, he really just-

• 21:24Kylie Kelce?

  He embraced it.

• 21:25Speaker 04

  He embraced it.

• 21:25Kylie Kelce?

  Uh-huh.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  And that was cool. That was really cool. We're all, like, we're all just like, wow, is this really-

• 21:30Kylie Kelce?

  This is happening.

• 21:31Speaker 04

  Shirtless out there.

• 21:32Kylie Kelce?

  Look at the rest of the suite behind him. We, before that game, ended up in this little corner bar.

• 21:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 21:39Kylie Kelce?

  That, I don't know if they were known for near, like, anything particular, but it was, it felt to me like that is how you're supposed to experience Buffalo.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  So, wait, you got there early?

• 21:52Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 21:52Speaker 04

  You're at a corner bar, you're just like, to hang out?

• 21:55Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Get to know the locals. This is your first time in Buffalo?

• 21:58Kylie Kelce?

  This was my first time in Buffalo, and we ended up sitting at a table. I didn't even end up sitting at the same table as my husband, like, we were, we were split. I'm telling you, it was like a very-

• 22:07Speaker 04

  He's gotta be amongst the people.

• 22:08Kylie Kelce?

  He's, he was deep in it.

• 22:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:10Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, and we were getting, like, paper boats of bar food.

• 22:14Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 22:14Kylie Kelce?

  Like, it was just, it was very, it was, yeah, like, you know, like, when you go to, like, um, like, a fair, and they have the, the checked, like, um, paper boats. And so they were just bringing out, like, pieces of pizza, and I, and I was just like, what are we, what's happening? And all the people in there were lovely. They were so excited to see Jason. They were telling them, him how much they enjoyed watching him play.

• 22:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:37Kylie Kelce?

  I think it was important that he was not a rival team, like they were not in the same conference. And so it wasn't a threat.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he came in peace. He was able to be like, it was a diplomacy mission.

• 22:47Kylie Kelce?

  Very much.

• 22:48Speaker 04

  No, but I remember, I remember being in a corner like with you and just like, like where it was safe.

• 22:54Kylie Kelce?

  Right?

• 22:55Speaker 04

  Just like kind of in the corner. We were kind of hiding in the back and like, it was like really safe. I was like asking, I was just like asking about food in Philly.

• 23:03Kylie Kelce?

  We were in a comfort conversation back there.

• 23:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You made me feel warm in Buffalo. Thank you very much for that.

• 23:10Kylie Kelce?

  No, absolutely. Um, I did notice that you wore red to the game.

• 23:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:14Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, are you a Chiefs fan?

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, my, my, my loyalty is with them. Like, cause I, I grew up in North Carolina, but like my dad was a, a cow or is a Cowboys fan. So that was like in the house, like cow, but we had an Emmitt Smith corner. Just like posters, just like Michael Irving and Troy Aikman and all that was like, like dolls and mugs and all those things were around the house.

• 23:39Kylie Kelce?

  Right. But you had more sense about you.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, so I, my, my into football was through Madden. I played Madden a lot.

• 23:46Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect.

• 23:47Speaker 04

  So I grew up playing Madden and playing, I played with the Colts and I played with, uh, who else did I play with? I, I was like Indianapolis Colts for, for a long time. And then I was like, I had no loyalty.

• 24:00Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 24:01Speaker 04

  I had no loyalty. And then Travis was nice to me and I said, I will follow you wherever you go. Like that's true. I like, like Travis, like, like Travis gave me a hug and I've like, I, I like wear like Chiefs pajamas.

• 24:13Kylie Kelce?

  Tomahawk chopping. Yeah, yeah, I got you.

• 24:15Speaker 04

  Like, like my boyfriend like wears a Chiefs hat every day. Like we're immediately sold. We're like, yeah, yeah, no, you were. And, and the whole team, like, uh, like there, I've met some of them. So awesome. Like, like they're so cool. So I'm, I'm definitely a Chiefs fan.

• 24:29Kylie Kelce?

  I just cannot explain to you how much I love the fact that you did not go Cowboys.

• 24:34Speaker 04

  I didn't go Cowboys. I didn't go Cowboys.

• 24:36Kylie Kelce?

  I love that so much. Thank you.

• 24:37Speaker 04

  Because my dad went so hard, it wouldn't allow me to. You kind of have to rebel against your father like he like so hard. That's that's his. He'll meet anybody on the streets and it's like his first question to them is like, how do you feel about the Cowboys? Like in every year and I just watch him go through.

• 24:55Kylie Kelce?

  For him to ask me that question.

• 24:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know, but I what but to be a Cowboys house was like it was it was really easy. For like a couple of years in the nineties.

• 25:04Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 25:05Speaker 04

  And just devastating.

• 25:07Kylie Kelce?

  Over and over.

• 25:09Speaker 04

  Over like devastating. This is our year. This is our year. I heard it every year.

• 25:13Kylie Kelce?

  How much disappointment can you take?

• 25:14Speaker 04

  How much disappointment can you take? I don't even know who's playing for the Cowboys right now, but but I just know my dad is is sad.

• 25:20Kylie Kelce?

  That's okay. We'll say go Birds and go Chiefs.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  From like October to Christmas. He's so sad.

• 25:27Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 25:28Speaker 04

  Weekly, he's just so.

• 25:29Kylie Kelce?

  It's not seasonal depression, guys. It's the Cowboys.

• 25:32Speaker 04

  Nothing to do with the weather. He's just sad for the Cowboys. Yeah, every autumn.

• 25:37Kylie Kelce?

  Year after year.

• 25:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:38Kylie Kelce?

  Well, at least we came, we know better.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  But were you, how into football were you pre like?

• 25:44Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, my dad only had two girls, me and my sister.

• 25:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:48Kylie Kelce?

  So I was his stand in son to watch football. So I grew up watching football.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  Really? Who'd you root for?

• 25:54Kylie Kelce?

  The Eagles.

• 25:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, really? Okay.

• 25:56Kylie Kelce?

  The Birds.

• 25:57Speaker 04

  Wow. Wow, you really did it.

• 25:59Kylie Kelce?

  Full circle.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  You really did it.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Uh, you committed.

• 26:04Kylie Kelce?

  Well, it got to a point where like I, when Jason and I were dating where I was like, hey, like if you ever play for any other team, like hypothetically, hypothetically, hypothetically speaking, if you ended up at the Cowboys.

• 26:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:19Kylie Kelce?

  Yikes.

• 26:20Speaker 04

  What was your dad like when when you're like?

• 26:22Kylie Kelce?

  My dad, my dad was very mad.

• 26:25Speaker 04

  Really?

• 26:26Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, because he thought. Typical athlete.

• 26:30Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 26:30Kylie Kelce?

  You're gonna be a bimbo, like perceived the bimbo.

• 26:33Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 26:34Kylie Kelce?

  Um, and then he met Jason was like, oh.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:38Kylie Kelce?

  I get it.

• 26:39Speaker 04

  Oh, that's great.

• 26:40Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 26:40Speaker 04

  No, I I've seen Jason change hearts.

• 26:43Kylie Kelce?

  Oh.

• 26:44Speaker 04

  I see it like that's like in in Buffalo, I see him like change people's hearts.

• 26:48Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:49Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, he jumped out of that suite to give people hugs.

• 26:52Speaker 04

  He's so sweet.

• 26:52Kylie Kelce?

  What do we? Yeah, chug beers and give hugs. That really, that sums him up.

• 26:57Speaker 04

  Chug beers and give hugs, yeah.

• 26:59Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, sums him sums him up quite well. Yeah.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  Can you tell me, I I do wanna know about having a kid cuz I really wanna get one of those.

• 27:07Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  And like right now, like me and my boyfriend, we getting arguments over our hypothetical child.

• 27:14Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 27:14Speaker 04

  Like, like we like.

• 27:15Kylie Kelce?

  How you raising him? How you raising him?

• 27:16Speaker 04

  We're how we're raising him, schooling. I'm pro public school. He went to a private school.

• 27:21Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 27:22Speaker 04

  Uh, like right now, our hypothetical child's name is Bento. He's half black, half Japanese.

• 27:29Kylie Kelce?

  Bento.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 27:30Kylie Kelce?

  Is that a nickname or that's?

• 27:32Speaker 04

  It's a little nickname. It's a little nickname for him, but like, yeah, it's like little Bento and we talk about Bento a lot.

• 27:37Kylie Kelce?

  But we're not gonna make Bento his government name, are we?

• 27:40Speaker 04

  Who knows? You know, who? My name's Rafael, so anything goes.

• 27:44Kylie Kelce?

  I love that.

• 27:45Speaker 04

  Any like, it could be anything.

• 27:47Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, I love that.

• 27:48Speaker 04

  But little Bento, but like.

• 27:50Kylie Kelce?

  He could, he could have like Ben or Ben. He could go by Ben or Benny if he doesn't feel committed to the Ben. I love this. Okay, it's versatile.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  Or maybe if you can put quotation marks on a birth certificate, maybe it's that.

• 28:03Speaker 04

  My question is, how do you make a cool kid? Cuz it's really important to me.

• 28:10Kylie Kelce?

  Yep.

• 28:11Speaker 04

  That the child is cool. That's all I talk about. And like my boyfriend talks about education and like, first of all, with like being gay is like, we got too many options. Like, cuz like, like our baby will come via like, like my lawyer will know first. Like, you know, like, it'd be like a lot of paperwork signed and they gotta like fly a woman in from a, like, it's a lot, it's like a lot of flights and paperwork before a child is in my home.

• 28:38Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 28:39Speaker 04

  So it's already too many decisions. Pre-child, like, what do you do to keep the kids cool?

• 28:45Kylie Kelce?

  I have no fucking clue.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  Because like they have huge shoes to fill as far as coolness. I'm not even talking about like career. I'm not talking about achievements. I'm talking about just cool parents and I feel the same like I feel like I'm pretty cool.

• 29:01Kylie Kelce?

  Very.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 29:02Kylie Kelce?

  I feel like they absorb, they'll have to absorb some of them.

• 29:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:07Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 29:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:08Kylie Kelce?

  I do think that they come out who they are.

• 29:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 29:13Kylie Kelce?

  It's hard to, it's hard to.

• 29:14Speaker 04

  You're just kind of there to like.

• 29:17Kylie Kelce?

  Guide them.

• 29:17Speaker 04

  Safe and like.

• 29:19Kylie Kelce?

  Keep them alive.

• 29:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, keep them alive.

• 29:21Kylie Kelce?

  Yep, and and hope for the best.

• 29:23Speaker 04

  But do you try and imprint? Because it'd be really hard for me not to do the thing like.

• 29:30Kylie Kelce?

  I think, I think just like being yourself and the way that you interact with your kids.

• 29:38Kylie Kelce?

  It, they sort of like pick up on all of that. And so they start to have little bits of your tendencies regardless. But the most beautiful thing about you choosing to have kids is that it is the most intentional.

• 29:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:51Kylie Kelce?

  Child.

• 29:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:53Kylie Kelce?

  And family.

• 29:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:55Kylie Kelce?

  That's beautiful.

• 29:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:56Kylie Kelce?

  I think you should.

• 29:57Speaker 04

  I would love, I would love to have life not be about me.

• 30:03Speaker 04

  It's so me. My life is so me all day.

• 30:07Kylie Kelce?

  But are you enjoying it?

• 30:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, I like it, but it's like I'm kind of like exhausted by it. It's just like me, me, me. I'd love to have it be about someone else.

• 30:16Kylie Kelce?

  Sure.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  Oh, like now the focus, the energy, like the, the choice, like I have to consider someone else. Like that would be nice.

• 30:24Kylie Kelce?

  It's growth.

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, grow, yeah, I like to grow up. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

• 30:30Kylie Kelce?

  I didn't say grow up. You say grow up.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  You know, I need to grow. No, I need to grow up.

• 30:35Kylie Kelce?

  Well, I'd love to get into your career a little bit.

• 30:37Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 30:37Kylie Kelce?

  Now that we've gotten it, I do want to talk about that.

• 30:40Speaker 04

  All right, we'll get back to Bento.

• 30:41Kylie Kelce?

  First of all, congratulations. Yeah, we'll, we'll come back to Bento. Don't worry, I'm coming back. Congratulations on your brand new stand up.

• 30:48Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 30:49Kylie Kelce?

  Don't be gay.

• 30:49Speaker 04

  Thank you very much.

• 30:50Kylie Kelce?

  Streaming now on HBO. Max, you, how do you feel that it's out in the world? Does it feel good?

• 30:56Speaker 04

  I, I want more people to watch it.

• 30:59Kylie Kelce?

  Perfect, that's what we're here to do.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  That'd be nice, it'd be good. I just want more people to watch it. Like, I'm really happy because I worked on it for like a year and a half. And this is the most I've ever worked on a set, like, because I, in my career, I'd like gotten distracted. I was like doing other things while doing stand-up. And so it was always, I had like a TV show or like something else. And this was just stand-up, like just going on the road, going to the clubs in the city, and just working, working, like crafting and change. So I'm really proud of it. And so like, yeah, like, and it's jokes, it's just, it's, the craziest thing I'm doing now is like telling jokes. Because I didn't really do that. I didn't like do that for my last special.

• 31:42Speaker 04

  Like, my last special was like emotional and it was like, you know, but, but this one is just jokes, so I just, I want people to watch it.

• 31:48Kylie Kelce?

  And it was very funny.

• 31:49Speaker 04

  Thank you very much.

• 31:50Kylie Kelce?

  One of my favorite parts of the special is early on when you're talking about celebrities who claim they don't read the comments.

• 31:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I was reading everything.

• 31:58Kylie Kelce?

  I believe we have the clip here, Queen Emma.

• 32:01Speaker 04

  You ever like hear celebrities say shit like, "Oh, I don't really check Twitter. I don't read the comments." They are lying to you. Everyone reads every word, even the reclusive celebrities. Like, if you want to get a message to Daniel Day-Lewis,

• 32:16Speaker 04

  all you gotta do is tweet, "Hey, Daniel Day-Lewis, fuck you." And he's gonna read that shit. I know. He's like making shoes somewhere.

• 32:26Kylie Kelce?

  Mine is on business.

• 32:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, just like, he's like in Ireland, like cobbling some shoes and like, and is scrolling.

• 32:33Kylie Kelce?

  I mean, so I'm, I'm on record as saying that I don't really read the comments.

• 32:39Speaker 04

  You don't read the comments?

• 32:40Kylie Kelce?

  No, but there's a couple of things that work here.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 32:43Kylie Kelce?

  I'm not a celebrity, so it doesn't apply to me.

• 32:45Speaker 04

  I don't know. I don't know, yeah.

• 32:47Kylie Kelce?

  Second, I read some of the comments, but it's only when I find the time to read the comments. Like, mine is a time, mine is-

• 32:55Speaker 04

  You're actually too busy to, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:58Kylie Kelce?

  I can't like lock in and also keep four humans alive, right?

• 33:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, distract me from the comments. Like, I just need, I need to look at you, so I stopped reading about me. So I, I don't read anymore because my feelings have been hurt.

• 33:15Kylie Kelce?

  Gotcha.

• 33:16Speaker 04

  So much that I cannot read anymore.

• 33:19Kylie Kelce?

  Sure. So when's the last time?

• 33:21Speaker 04

  Um, it's been, it's been like a year.

• 33:26Speaker 04

  Been like a year and some change since I searched my name. I had the, the, uh, reality show, um, come out. I made a reality show.

• 33:34Kylie Kelce?

  Yes.

• 33:35Speaker 04

  And then I was like reading comments all, all day and like just looking at like comments, TikTok, you know, like.

• 33:41Kylie Kelce?

  That's part of the problem is there's so many places.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  You leave one app and go to the next app. Like you're just like.

• 33:47Kylie Kelce?

  You're done on YouTube. Now I'm on TikTok. I'm done on TikTok. I'm now on Instagram.

• 33:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and then it's like 11 o'clock and I'm like, oh, I forgot to wish my mom happy birthday.

• 33:57Speaker 04

  I've been doing this for 12 hours and I forgot to like, yeah.

• 34:00Kylie Kelce?

  Life was happening around me. Yep.

• 34:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. And so just searching, searching, searching. But I haven't done that in like a year, a year and some change.

• 34:09Kylie Kelce?

  And how's that feel?

• 34:10Speaker 04

  Pretty good. Pretty good. Like it's just.

• 34:12Kylie Kelce?

  Are you curious?

• 34:14Speaker 04

  Like sometimes, like, but the thing is nobody talks shit to your face.

• 34:18Kylie Kelce?

  Nope.

• 34:18Speaker 04

  So I get to live in this bubble where I think just everybody likes me.

• 34:22Kylie Kelce?

  Do you know, I tell people that when they stop my husband and then they apologize to me, it's always the same, it's the same sequence of events. They stop my husband, like, can we get a picture?

• 34:31Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 34:31Kylie Kelce?

  Then they turn or the person with them turns to me and says, I'm so sorry for interrupting your day. I'm like, no, it's totally fine. They're like, ah, this must get really annoying. And I always say the same thing. No one walks up to him and tells him, wow, you're a real asshole.

• 34:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:45Kylie Kelce?

  Everyone walks up to him and is like, you're one of the best centers ever played for. And I'm like.

• 34:49Speaker 04

  Thank you. Yeah, that's so sweet. Yeah, that's all, that's all you get. Yeah, people don't talk shit to your face. So like.

• 34:55Kylie Kelce?

  They should start though.

• 34:57Speaker 04

  Well, I would.

• 34:57Kylie Kelce?

  If you're gonna say it, say it to my face.

• 34:58Speaker 04

  Pregnant woman. A pregnant woman would. Yeah, a pregnant woman would be like, I don't like you. I never liked you. But, but like people are nice in person. So like I get to live, I, I like that. I like just like walking around and having like, like. Who doesn't love receiving love? So that's been nice.

• 35:17Kylie Kelce?

  That's, that is such a good point. Um, this new comedy special is your fourth one. Does, um, every new one become your favorite? Or do you have a favorite?

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Oh, that's a, oh, yeah. Oh, like children. Oh, like the children. Yeah.

• 35:33Kylie Kelce?

  Depends on the day?

• 35:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, it depends on the day. Yeah, well, well, every, every new one, every new one is, you know, like exactly where you, where I am.

• 35:42Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah, applicable to that time of life.

• 35:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like it, it, you kind of, uh, uh, uh, a friend of mine said that like, like he like makes art to catch people up with him. And I, I get that, like, like, oh, this is exactly where I am here. Cause I almost had to put this out, cause like my last special, I was like in a fetal position, like, like sad. And so like people would be like either part of the like, oh, good to see you. Like, I hope everything's okay. A lot of like, like, like the general, like, like, like, I hope you're okay.

• 36:12Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  So now it's just like, oh, you seem happy.

• 36:15Kylie Kelce?

  Good to see you out.

• 36:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, good to see you out.

• 36:17Kylie Kelce?

  I'm so glad you got out of the house today.

• 36:19Speaker 04

  Remember like, cause last time I saw you were crying.

• 36:24Kylie Kelce?

  Um, like I mentioned in your intro, you've hosted some huge shows, the Golden Globes and Saturday Night Live, which, uh, you were nominated for an Emmy for.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 36:34Kylie Kelce?

  Which were you more nervous for, or do you not get nervous?

• 36:38Speaker 04

  Um,

• 36:42Speaker 04

  the, it, it, I, it was like different processes, like I, for both, I didn't know what I was gonna say basically until it was live. Like for, for SNL, I spent the week annoyed because I needed to talk about, like, it was like the Oscar slap that just happened. And it like, it, it stole, I, I, I'm just coming out, I had just come out, I got a new special. I'm like, I'm wearing a white suit with no shirt. Uh, this is about me. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, I guess I have to talk about like this thing that hap-. So like just trying to find a way to like, address that without, like, so I, I was annoyed. I was annoyed that, but I had fun doing it. I like, I had fun doing the.

• 37:27Speaker 04

  A lot, but I was like annoyed all week. And kind of the same thing for the Globes that like I'm like the first black host of this thing. And you know that like it's like eighty years of the show. They've never had like a black host. They like come off like this this race scandal and like now I'm here. Right? And it's just like, hey, just smile and make jokes about the celebrities like like I would have wanted to do that, but I couldn't do that. Like I knew I couldn't do that. Like it was something like I I had like a responsibility, I I guess you would say to like address that. And so like that was that was kind of stressful for me because I was like I was put in this like really impossible. I did it to myself. I didn't have to say yes, but like I I I found myself in this like really impossible.

• 38:12Speaker 04

  Uh, position like where I was like, oh, I have to like make a monologue. That explains my reason for being here. And and why and like and not only not just to like put them in their place, but also like to try and articulate my excitement. For these types of nights and like like the evening, I do think that art should be celebrated. I do think this is a good thing. And I do, so I was in a really tough position. So like those are kind of like mirror like kind of. Like wore white and wore black in one. So it's kind of like angel devil mirrors of of monologues. But but both I got a little nervous.

• 38:53Speaker 04

  You know, just at like getting the words right, like what am I gonna say? Like, yeah, I was I was a little nervous for for both of those.

• 39:00Kylie Kelce?

  Maybe I'll do it again.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  No, well, the Golden Globes would never have me back.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  They they I I'm I'm telling you, they will, they would never, they would never let me do it again, which in some ways is kind of an honor, I guess. Like I was like, they they would never.

• 39:15Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, but if you if you if you if you had to host.

• 39:19Speaker 04

  The headlines were just like, they're like, like, I was like making people cry.

• 39:26Kylie Kelce?

  You went full pregnant lady?

• 39:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went for pregnant woman honest and like, yeah, they would, they would never. Like, I, I know that for a fact.

• 39:37Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, so would you?

• 39:38Speaker 04

  I knew that by the first commercial. Cause like, like, like, like, I went to the dressing room, I was like, well, this is obviously, this is the last time I'll ever.

• 39:48Kylie Kelce?

  Do you guys?

• 39:48Speaker 04

  And I didn't even wanna do it. I didn't even wanna do it. I wanted to do it, though. Okay.

• 39:53Kylie Kelce?

  You were like, do you want me to leave now? First commercial.

• 39:55Speaker 04

  Oh, they probably would. Actually, like, there, there are certain producers that would have been like, really happy about it, just like, if I just like.

• 40:02Kylie Kelce?

  Just rolled out?

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, it was so strange. I walked there, I was staying at a hotel around the corner, like, they, they asked for the monologue.

• 40:11Speaker 04

  Like NBC Legal was asking for a monologue, I wouldn't give it to them. Like, I, like, I refused to give them a monologue, because I didn't know the monologue. So I, I didn't know. Um, they told me I had three minutes, I took seven.

• 40:24Speaker 04

  But it was, I felt like I needed to say it. Like, I had, I had like, things to get off my chest, and I was like, I need to say this.

• 40:30Kylie Kelce?

  Yup.

• 40:30Speaker 04

  And then I walked back alone to the hotel. I didn't go to any party, I just like, I walked from.

• 40:37Kylie Kelce?

  You're like, I'm.

• 40:37Speaker 04

  Like, walked off the stage and walked back to, yeah, walked back to the hotel and went to sleep and flew back to New York.

• 40:43Kylie Kelce?

  Okay. How about SNL? Would you do SNL again?

• 40:47Speaker 04

  Maybe, that was fun.

• 40:48Kylie Kelce?

  Okay.

• 40:50Speaker 04

  That was fun. That, that was fun.

• 40:52Kylie Kelce?

  Let's manifest it.

• 40:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, no, that, that was, that was cool.

• 40:55Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, so you should do SNL again.

• 40:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, if they have me, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:59Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, perfect. Let's manifest it. We'll manifest.

• 41:02Speaker 04

  They'd listen to you. They'd listen to you if you told them to do it. I actually, yeah.

• 41:06Kylie Kelce?

  Come on, Gerard wants to do it again.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  You hold a lot of influence.

• 41:09Kylie Kelce?

  Gerard to do it again.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:10Kylie Kelce?

  Do I hold a lot of influence?

• 41:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, you'll come in, yeah.

• 41:12Kylie Kelce?

  If that's the case, I'll come if Gerard hosts it.

• 41:15Speaker 04

  You'll come, you'll come, the fan will come.

• 41:17Kylie Kelce?

  I'm inviting myself.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, we'll make a whole like night out of it.

• 41:20Kylie Kelce?

  Uh, now, I'd love to talk to you a little bit more about your acting career.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Oh, no.

• 41:25Kylie Kelce?

  Because, as the real ones know, I'm a Transformers superfan.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  Oh, and that was fun. I was talking about that the other day, because like, we were, man, like, I, I, I did Transformers, because it was like, Michael Bay.

• 41:39Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  I had a meeting with Michael Bay, and he was like, you wanna do it? I'm like, yeah, of course, I'll do this. What else was I doing this summer? We were shooting in, um, in Michigan, uh, in, uh, outside of Detroit, in, um, Birmingham. There's this hotel called The Townsend.

• 41:54Speaker 04

  And I was like, they they made me uh eight cookies every night. And I I was watching anyway, I I love that experience. This is a great Italian restaurant across the street from the Townsend. I I can tell you more about that than like the movie. Like I'll tell you about the experience like.

• 42:08Kylie Kelce?

  Can we just, why eight?

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's it's I was eating, I was.

• 42:14Kylie Kelce?

  Were they for you, all eight?

• 42:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:15Kylie Kelce?

  Oh, I remember that. I thought you had like a.

• 42:17Speaker 04

  I used to eat, I used to bake eight cookies and watch The Daily Show. That was my nightly ritual, like like Monday through Thursday, I'll bake eight cookies, watch Daily Show. Or like Colbert Report and and and that was like my thing. And then like now I'm an adult, so I can't have eight cookies every night. I'm told by healthcare professionals that one should not have so many cookies.

• 42:44Kylie Kelce?

  That's lame.

• 42:44Speaker 04

  So I no longer have those cookies.

• 42:48Kylie Kelce?

  No, ah.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah. And my boyfriend wouldn't let me either, but he's keeping me alive.

• 42:54Kylie Kelce?

  Okay, it this is a conscious decision.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, yeah, I want the, I want them.

• 43:02Speaker 04

  I want them.

• 43:03Kylie Kelce?

  Do you at least do it once a night then, once a week then?

• 43:06Speaker 04

  No, no, and the cookies have changed.

• 43:08Kylie Kelce?

  How often are we cooking now?

• 43:09Speaker 04

  So the cookies have changed, so I went, I I grew up on Pillsbury, then I switched to Nestle Toll House. Then I did Nestle Toll House Chocolate Lovers Chocolate Chunk Place and Bake. Now, now, Jac Torres makes, they he has like a cookie uh mix. They they they're giant. I'm gonna send you some Jac Torres, no, like, I'm not even, I'm not even kidding, I'm gonna send you some Jac Torres cookie mix. I I got like four boxes in the cabinet, I should have brought you one. And I make these like large cookies, like just like you can only, I can only make four at a time. And then, but they're the best cookies ever. I'm a I'm a chocolate chip.

• 43:47Kylie Kelce?

  I love that you've beat the system.

• 43:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:49Kylie Kelce?

  You are no longer doing eight cookies.

• 43:52Speaker 04

  I do four large, yeah, yeah, I do four and I and I save them for everybody, but they're like really for me.

• 43:58Kylie Kelce?

  Yeah.

• 43:58Speaker 04

  I'm a chocolate chip cookie like.

• 44:00Kylie Kelce?

  Connoisseur.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 44:01Kylie Kelce?

  Um, all of your acting role, of all your acting roles in TVs and movies, what was your favorite?

• 44:10Speaker 04

  So, yeah, like, I, I, acting is something, I'm like, I, I can do it, but I'm not like, like, I was like, I was like, really bad in my last role in that kind of, I was like, really bad and poor things. And I'm next to like, the greatest living actor, like, like, like, Emma is just like, incredible, and I'm like, I was like, kind of out of my depth, and like, just trying, and I respect Yorgos so much, he's like, so, like, he's one of my favorite filmmakers, but, just trying to find my footing in it. Um, and, and like, often, when I'm acting in something, it's something that I either, I also wrote,

• 44:50Speaker 04

  or like, uh, been directing, or like, like, it's mine, so I'm so concerned about production, that I haven't been able to just like, get lost in a, a, a role, to like, fully, like, um, I, I think, if I did it now, I, I think it would be different, like, after reality show, and, and like, like, like, I, I have a different relationship with cameras now, so it, it may be, uh, better, but like, yeah, I, I usually, I've not liked it.

• 45:19Kylie Kelce?

  Now, the last question I have for you, I often ask, uh, parents, what, the best parenting advice they've ever received, but, I would like to ask you, what is the best comedy advice?

• 45:31Speaker 04

  Probably something like Bo has told me, you know, like, the, the, the way to not be cool is to try to be cool. Is great advice.

• 45:42Kylie Kelce?

  That's very.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, like, like, if you try to be cool, it'll be the least cool thing you've ever done.

• 45:46Kylie Kelce?

  Thank you so much for joining me today, I cannot thank you enough, this was amazing.

• 45:51Speaker 04

  You're so fun to talk to.

• 45:52Kylie Kelce?

  Your new special is outstanding.

• 45:55Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 45:55Kylie Kelce?

  Um, it is called Don't Be Gay, it is on HBO Max streaming now, it, I'm, encourage everyone to go watch it, because apparently that's the only reason why Jero.

• 46:04Speaker 04

  Please, what?

• 46:05Kylie Kelce?

  Jero's out in the wild.

• 46:07Speaker 04

  I'm out in the wild, but like, please watch it.

• 46:09Kylie Kelce?

  You should, it's hilarious, it was incredible, um, and, uh, thank you so much for being here.

• 46:15Speaker 04

  Thanks for having me.

• 46:16Kylie Kelce?

  And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie. You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Gerard on my YouTube channel on More Shit Monday. I'll be back next Thursday with a brand new episode. Follow Not Gonna Lie on all social media, @NGLwithKylie. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Get your official NGL merch at NGLKylie.com. Not Gonna Lie is a WAVE original brought to you by Visible. Live in the know. Thanks to the real ones for tuning in.

• 46:52Speaker 00

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