Chris O'Dowd & Dawn O'Porter

It’s time for a very special live episode with the iconic Chris O’Dowd & Dawn O’Porter, all in aid of the fabulous charity Choose Love. Recorded live at the Union Chapel with an incredible audience, mum rustled up a bunch of gorgeous canapés for our guests and she even brought a vat of her famous chicken soup for some lucky audience members. Chris & Dawn were just brilliant, we learnt about their Christmas plans, Dawn’s acting debut in the TV series Skins, what food was served at their wedding, Chris’ love of breakfast, why garlic holds a special place in their hearts, how Dawn put together the charity Choose Love, and this now marks the 3rd Irish guest this series mum has been able to talk about her Irish passport with! Choose Love does the most incredible work for refugees all over the world, and so far they have raised an incredible £120 million all going directly to those in need. Don’t miss the Choose Love store open on Regent Street in London until 31st December. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:04Jessie Ware?

  Hello, welcome to Table Manners. This is a very special episode. We are backstage in the Union Chapel in Islington and we are going to be doing a Choose Love Christmas Table Manners Live special. And we have the most gorgeous guests, Chris O'Dowd and Dorna Porter. And Mum has cooked a lot.

• 1:22Speaker 03

  I've cooked a lot, darling.

• 1:23Jessie Ware?

  Tell us what you've done, because we've done these live shows before and it's quite hard to eat and chat.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I've just made little picky bits. Some sausages, some Parmesan crisps, some...

• 1:35Jessie Ware?

  Crab meat with radicchio.

• 1:36Speaker 03

  Crab meat with jicchory, some prawns with coriander and chili. Yeah, just little things to pop in your mouth.

• 1:43Jessie Ware?

  Gorgeous. And we have a dairy-free person and a gluten-free person. Your favourite kind of guest.

• 1:49Speaker 03

  My favourite kind of guest.

• 1:50Jessie Ware?

  So we're going to be talking to the guests to a rammed Union Chapel. And we can't wait. It's for a really good cause. Choose Love do really important work for displaced people and refugees all around the world. And so everyone has bought a ticket tonight, and that's going towards Choose Love and the 41 countries that they help in crisis. And there's merch stand, so I'm going to be telling people to be buying some more merch. And it's just going to be a gorgeous. We haven't done a live show since Jordan Stevens.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:21Jessie Ware?

  Which was gorgeous. We love it. Our crowd are the best. Our audience are the best. And I can't wait.

• 2:49Jessie Ware?

  Good e- oh, good evening, Union Chapel. How are we doing?

• 2:55Jessie Ware?

  Oh, this is lovely. Hold on, I'm going to take my glasses off because I-

• 2:58Speaker 03

  Jessie, you can't see anything anyway.

• 2:59Jessie Ware?

  I can't see anything.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  Can't see anyone. Is anyone here we know? Oh, thank God for that.

• 3:07Jessie Ware?

  Thank you so much for being here tonight. This is a very, very important cause. And by you donating and paying for a ticket, you have just helped Choose Love so much. And refugees and displaced people worldwide get help. So, this is a live episode of Table Manners. Who has been to one of our live shows before? Okay, we've got some old timers over there. We've got some newbies. But we do have charitable people in the audience, and I may just have to ask you to spend a little bit more later. But we'll chat about that after you've had a few drinks, okay?

• 3:43Jessie Ware?

  How are you, Mum?

• 3:44Speaker 03

  I think I'm okay.

• 3:45Jessie Ware?

  You do- you look quite startled, Len.

• 3:47Speaker 03

  I am startled.

• 3:48Jessie Ware?

  Why, you're spa- also, can we- I'm just going to let you know that Mum and I do talk on the phone about five times a day. However, we turned up with two outfits. Basically, Mum had one outfit that was the velvet with fluff, or a sparkle. We look like we're in bloody Abba. I don't know whether it's because we're so in sync now, Mum.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're in sync, darling.

• 4:11Jessie Ware?

  Or because we don't communicate enough to let each other know that we're in the same coast.

• 4:15Speaker 03

  I think I communicate, Jessie, but-

• 4:18Jessie Ware?

  Can I just ask, who speaks to their mum more than twice a day?

• 4:24Jessie Ware?

  Oh, their dad? Yeah, yeah, okay. How many are you on?

• 4:29Jessie Ware?

  You live next door to your mum? Jeez, okay, that's lovely. That is good, that's great. That is lovely, yeah.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  Beware, Jessie.

• 4:38Jessie Ware?

  I've told you to move to New Cross, you won't do it.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I will.

• 4:42Jessie Ware?

  You will?

• 4:43Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 4:44Jessie Ware?

  I've got the granny, you just don't want to be in the basement?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  No, I don't.

• 4:47Jessie Ware?

  No, fair enough.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  I want to be in the penthouse.

• 4:49Jessie Ware?

  Okay, fine.

• 4:52Jessie Ware?

  So you already know who the guests is today. Guests. And we are so thrilled to have this couple on today. Dawn O'Porter and Chris O'Dowd.

• 5:07Jessie Ware?

  And, well, Dawn is a co-founder of Choose Love, so that's just really important and special, and she'll be telling us a bit more about that, but...

• 5:16Speaker 03

  Thank God, they're professionals as well.

• 5:18Jessie Ware?

  I know. Who's got leopard print on tonight? Thank you. That's really good. It's fab. Any other leopard print?

• 5:28Jessie Ware?

  Hi, what's your name? Becky!

• 5:32Jessie Ware?

  Ooh, Becky, love it. I love it. You've got leopard print trousers on. Yeah, I need to get my... Who's got pearls? Anyone got pearl? No? Okay, cool.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  I've got my pearl on, Dawn.

• 5:43Jessie Ware?

  Oh, thanks, Mum. Pushy Jewish mother, right over there, I love you. Right, shall we introduce our guests? Chris O'Dowd and Dawn O'Porter, please come to the stage!

• 6:09Speaker 04

  Hi, guys. Thanks so much for having us. Are you gonna take your coat off? I will. Are you staying? I was gonna see how the first couple of minutes went.

• 6:22Speaker 04

  Lovely spot you got here.

• 6:24Speaker 05

  I love this. I've never seen this. A napkin is in a little heart shape.

• 6:27Jessie Ware?

  Can I tell you why? Well, choose love, obs. And that is a darling Sophia who works on our team and she's a lovely Greek goddess. Where are you, Sophia? Working somewhere hard. On more. How good is that?

• 6:41Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's really, it's really cute.

• 6:42Jessie Ware?

  It's nice, isn't it? How are you today, guys?

• 6:45Speaker 05

  We're good. I'll speak for you.

• 6:48Speaker 04

  I'm well, I'm well, I'm good. I was away for the weekend. I was down seeing a friend in Weymouth. So I'm feeling slightly the worse for wear, not to, you know.

• 6:56Jessie Ware?

  Good to know.

• 6:56Speaker 04

  That's the name of the new podcast. Surely that'd be a good one.

• 6:59Jessie Ware?

  Worse for wear.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's the day after the day before.

• 7:01Jessie Ware?

  What did, what did you do in Weymouth? What's going on in Weymouth at weekends?

• 7:05Speaker 04

  We killed a man.

• 7:09Speaker 04

  But that wasn't the intention going in.

• 7:12Speaker 04

  I've revealed too much. We went down to see a friend who's moved down there and they were unwell. So it was his partner's fortieth. So we did some booging and we did some shaking indeed.

• 7:25Jessie Ware?

  Good.

• 7:26Speaker 04

  And both of those things went well.

• 7:28Jessie Ware?

  Were the, was the food good? What did you eat?

• 7:31Speaker 04

  There was a lot of snacks.

• 7:33Speaker 05

  Well, you said you had a disappointing burger.

• 7:35Speaker 04

  We did. Well, during the day, we, there's great food in Weymouth, you see. And so we put a bit of pressure on it and we just didn't live up to our own expectations. We kind of had a very mediocre burger and we were like, ah, what a shame. We miss an opportunity here.

• 7:51Jessie Ware?

  Dawn, were you there too?

• 7:52Speaker 05

  I wasn't, no. I was weirdly in London having a terrible roast. I went to a pub. It took like an hour for the roast to arrive. I can't eat gluten. They put down this absolutely massive Yorkshire pudding and said, and I said, is that gluten free? And they went, yes. And I went, wow! Ate half of it and then just she like shaken back dive towards me, like grabbed it out of my hand. I was like, I'm sorry, I made a mistake. So there was that.

• 8:17Jessie Ware?

  What happens when you eat that then?

• 8:19Speaker 05

  I basically go into labour.

• 8:21Jessie Ware?

  Oh, man.

• 8:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's terrible. And so it kind of sent it back and everyone's very apologetic.

• 8:26Speaker 04

  Which is more fun than you'd think.

• 8:30Speaker 05

  And then the next roast chicken that arrived was raw. It wasn't cooked. It was really bad.

• 8:35Jessie Ware?

  Did anyone else have a bad, a poor roast yesterday? Don't they all have a good one? Hold on, hold on, was that somebody saying they had a bad one?

• 8:46Speaker 04

  It's unusual. Even though there wasn't up there.

• 8:48Jessie Ware?

  What was...

• 8:49Speaker 03

  I thought God was up there.

• 8:54Speaker 04

  And he had a terrible roast.

• 8:57Speaker 04

  That was his last supper.

• 9:05Jessie Ware?

  What was so bad about yours?

• 9:08Speaker 04

  This is my issue with spice. It's always dry.

• 9:11Jessie Ware?

  What, they didn't even give you gravy?

• 9:14Speaker 04

  Not moist, in the famous words of Rick Astley.

• 9:18Jessie Ware?

  Are you moist? That should have cut... Okay, you know we're doing a quiz later. But for now, let's go back to fortieth anniversaries. You two met at your 30th.

• 9:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was. We were both living out in LA, but separately. I'd been out there for a year. And I was having a party. My friend had lent me her Pilates studio for my 30th birthday party, which is the most LA thing ever. We kind of moved all of the reformers to the side. And one friend bought me a dance floor for the night. And then two other friends, because I was born in Scotland, played bagpipes for me.

• 9:52Jessie Ware?

  Are these all Ameri... Were they Scottish?

• 9:55Speaker 05

  They were all like expats.

• 9:56Jessie Ware?

  Okay, got it.

• 9:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, they were Scottish men playing bagpipes. And then not that many people came, because I didn't know that many people. And everyone had left by 9:30. And Chris walked in. Chris had introduced himself to me on Facebook, weirdly, in the run-up to this party.

• 10:11Jessie Ware?

  So he'd essentially tried...

• 10:12Speaker 04

  Because we were cool.

• 10:14Speaker 05

  And he said, "Do you want to go bowling?" And I said, "No, but I'm having my 30th birthday tonight, so just come and bring all your friends."

• 10:19Jessie Ware?

  So was that you asking her out? Or trying to be a friendly person in LA?

• 10:25Speaker 04

  I'm just a big bowling fan.

• 10:29Speaker 05

  I don't know, we've still ever been bowling, have we?

• 10:31Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 10:32Speaker 03

  Had you ever been bowling before?

• 10:33Speaker 04

  No.

• 10:34Speaker 03

  No, okay.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  But I saw it on the telly and I was curious.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  I actually was coming over and I didn't really know anybody either. And so I asked a mate of mine who was also an actor, Nick Frost, lovely actor, if he knew anybody in town at the moment. And he said, "Oh, you should look Dawn up. I know Dawn a bit and she's a good crack." And so I sent Dawn a couple of friend requests on the Facebook. And forgetting that my profile picture on Facebook is an octogenarian Floridian lady. And so it's just this kind of old floral lady and Dawn didn't, this was 15 years ago, I suppose. So Dawn said no.

• 11:23Speaker 04

  Couple of times and then she was short on numbers for her birthday, so invited me along. And so I met her father.

• 11:30Speaker 05

  I was dancing with my dad.

• 11:32Speaker 04

  Early in the relationship.

• 11:33Speaker 05

  Everyone else had left and I was dancing with my dad on the, on the, on the dance floor that my friends got me. And, and then this guy just walked in.

• 11:42Speaker 03

  What was the song playing?

• 11:43Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh, I don't remember.

• 11:45Speaker 04

  It's raining men.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  I just remember, I always describe it as this, I just remember like thinking the wingspan on this man, who just came towards me with his arms wide open and just, we just danced and he kind of flung me around. My dad obviously just stepped aside.

• 12:04Speaker 04

  Dawn's dad is like a guy my height with a beard from Scotland. And I'm still fairly sure she's drunk and thinks she's still dancing with him.

• 12:16Speaker 05

  It was just a straight swap from one Celt to another. But yeah, and I remember the next morning, I was in bed with my sister and I was like, that guy, I think I'm gonna marry that guy. And so I text my friend and I said, whose pilates studio it was. Oh no, I had to go there to clear up the pilates studio because at like 7am, because the classes start at 8 o'clock. And I remember I walked in and she went, I'm gonna marry that guy. And I was like, no, no, no.

• 12:42Speaker 03

  Oh no, back off bitch.

• 12:44Speaker 05

  So we had a little bit of battle and then she went, it's your birthday, you go for it.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  I let them decide.

• 12:53Speaker 03

  Did you fancy him straight away?

• 12:55Speaker 05

  I did fancy him straight away.

• 12:57Speaker 03

  Did you fancy her straight away?

• 12:58Speaker 04

  And before.

• 13:00Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  I, well, I knew Dawn off the telly because she had done the docs. And I was like, oh, she seems cool and she was kind of doing interesting work and all of that.

• 13:11Speaker 05

  But when I Googled Chris, I was like, the IT crowd, what the fuck is that?

• 13:17Speaker 04

  I don't think she's seen it yet.

• 13:19Speaker 05

  No, I haven't. I think, I love it, but at the time I hadn't and I'm, so that was it. And then I think you moved in with me three months later.

• 13:27Speaker 04

  Well, you were fairly broke.

• 13:28Speaker 05

  I was, I was like, well, you move in and pay my rent. Yeah, I'm good.

• 13:32Jessie Ware?

  Um, let's take it back to both your childhoods. Um, and.

• 13:37Speaker 05

  We weren't together.

• 13:40Jessie Ware?

  Um, can you paint the scene of who was around the dinner table, where you were and what was a very memorable childhood dish? Dawn first?

• 13:49Speaker 05

  Well, I, I went to live with my aunt and uncle when I was 10 and suddenly food just became this unbelievable adventure. Before that, I'd been living with my grandparents and they weren't really into food. It's very basic eighties Finders crispy pancakes type food, which is fine and delicious. But then I moved in with my aunt and uncle and suddenly we grew up on Guernsey's. It's just like seafood and every, no meal was ever the same. Like there was capers and olives and side salads and just, and fresh oysters and just all of this amazing food and incredible Sunday roasts. And I just feel like I at age 10 got this like culinary wake up. And I've been really passionate about food ever since. And I, so that, but I remember just being so excited about what my auntie was gonna cook.

• 14:35Speaker 05

  Very buttery, salty seafood. I mean.

• 14:39Jessie Ware?

  Delicious. And who was around that dinner table then? Your auntie, your uncle?

• 14:42Speaker 05

  They had kind of a big crew of mates. So there was a few different families. And I remember my uncle, we've got like a normal kind of eight seater table and he, my uncle built this big topper for it that would sit, I can't think about 16, so that would kind of get carried in on a Sunday morning. And then we would all just sit and yeah, a couple of families, loads of pets, loads of food and hours and hours and hours at the table.

• 15:06Jessie Ware?

  And did you ever get involved in cooking any of those meals? Cause I know that you, you love to cook.

• 15:12Speaker 05

  I love to cook.

• 15:13Jessie Ware?

  And you loved to host?

• 15:14Speaker 05

  I loved to host. I would have been helpful, but my auntie was definitely had it under control. But she would kind of call us in to do bits and balls. But I definitely picked up a lot of that really lovely kind of old school home cooking.

• 15:26Jessie Ware?

  They're having a chat. What are you chatting about?

• 15:28Speaker 03

  I think he needs more tea.

• 15:30Jessie Ware?

  Do you need more tea? Oh, yeah. More tea, vicar, please.

• 15:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:36Jessie Ware?

  Um, I, I think we have to go off to get our tea. Mum, ask Chris.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  I was asking you if you wanted to. No, I'm sorry, I was.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Chris, what you might not know about me is that I'm actually Irish as well.

• 15:49Speaker 04

  Do you know what?

• 15:50Speaker 03

  Did you know that?

• 15:50Speaker 04

  There was something wonderful about you that I couldn't quite place.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  I have the passport anyway.

• 15:57Speaker 04

  Do you? Oh, good for you.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  My treasured harp-embossed passport.

• 16:02Speaker 04

  You know that it's the only passport in the world that has a musical instrument on the front of it.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Is it?

• 16:06Speaker 04

  Which I think speaks to...

• 16:08Speaker 03

  It speaks volumes about the Irish, I think.

• 16:10Speaker 04

  There was a time that the harp was illegal in Ireland and Henry VIII would chop off the fingers of a person that was found playing it.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  You're kidding?

• 16:18Speaker 04

  No. So I think there's...

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Are you kidding?

• 16:21Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  Is this a true story?

• 16:23Speaker 04

  No, this is true.

• 16:24Speaker 03

  Oh my goodness.

• 16:25Jessie Ware?

  What?

• 16:25Speaker 04

  And therefore that's, I think, why it has such cultural significance.

• 16:28Speaker 03

  You weren't allowed to play the harp in Ireland, Henry VIII.

• 16:30Jessie Ware?

  Is he taking...

• 16:31Speaker 03

  I don't know that he's teasing or not, Jess.

• 16:34Speaker 04

  Knowledge and humour are terrible bedfellows.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  They are.

• 16:38Jessie Ware?

  Did we get Chris's childhood food?

• 16:40Speaker 03

  No, I'm just starting on that.

• 16:41Speaker 04

  I'm not sure, I got it myself, Jessie.

• 16:43Jessie Ware?

  Has Mum told you that she's Irish yet?

• 16:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  As is Sarah Jane, who's just got her passport.

• 16:53Jessie Ware?

  Great. Brilliant. I now need the documents to get my... Yeah, cheers.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  So, where were you born?

• 17:00Speaker 04

  I was born in the north-west of Ireland.

• 17:02Speaker 03

  Called?

• 17:03Speaker 04

  Called Rosscommon. Well, I was born in Sligo, which is a few minutes down the road. Go up and you're... Under us! And so, I was the youngest of five, so it was a busy breakfast-dinner table. My mother, who is now a therapist, was a wonderfully cook, but I'd say a reluctant caterer.

• 17:22Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 17:23Speaker 04

  Understandably. But did incredibly. And it was, you know, a lot of great... The produce up around where I am is gorgeous, loads of great... Oh, lovely butter and bread and shit, you know, all the proper... the sausages. Even, I was back last week, I'm like, there's something about the sausages.

• 17:41Jessie Ware?

  The sausages are really good. Nana's sausages.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  They win quite a lot of awards.

• 17:45Jessie Ware?

  Oh, not her actual sausages, but the sausages that she cooks.

• 17:49Speaker 04

  She's got pretty great sausages herself.

• 17:52Speaker 05

  I don't know how she'll feel about that.

• 17:55Jessie Ware?

  We had Sharon Horgan, we did a podcast with Sharon Horgan, it's coming out soon, and she was talking about sausages on Friday night.

• 18:01Speaker 04

  There's something about the regulations in pork in Ireland that are different to make our pork better.

• 18:06Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 18:07Speaker 04

  Oh shit, I'm, it's the wrong audience, isn't it?

• 18:09Jessie Ware?

  No, no, I think it's fine, don't worry.

• 18:12Speaker 05

  Oh no, no, no, mum says that she doesn't eat, she couldn't possibly have bacon in the fridge, but has prosciutto there the whole time, don't worry about it, it's fine. We're fine. We're fine.

• 18:23Jessie Ware?

  So, so sausages, it was, so it's fry up.

• 18:26Speaker 04

  Lots of stews, lots of, lots of stews, and we would have, I suppose, like Dawn had like a kind of a big Sunday roast and all that kind of vibe, although that feels like more of a British thing, I think. Like, we wouldn't have Yorkshire pudding or any of that kind of crack. I don't know what we would have instead, just maybe, not to be stereotypical, but just more potatoes.

• 18:48Jessie Ware?

  Potatoes.

• 18:49Speaker 05

  You'd have probably a roast ham, would you?

• 18:50Speaker 04

  Oh, lots of ham, yeah.

• 18:52Jessie Ware?

  Yeah. What's your favourite roast?

• 18:56Speaker 04

  I, it's one of those things where it's like, what's your favourite music? Where it's like, what mood am I in? I don't know, sometimes I'll be like, I'll want like a delicious beef roast, but also Dawn does an incredible chicken roast.

• 19:08Jessie Ware?

  What's your favourite?

• 19:09Speaker 04

  Pork belly sometimes.

• 19:10Speaker 05

  I, I think, I think probably my favourite is a really, really good chicken.

• 19:15Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 05

  I also love, if I'm in a pub, it's a bit controversial, but I love a nut roast.

• 19:21Jessie Ware?

  I am with you.

• 19:22Speaker 05

  I love a nut roast.

• 19:23Jessie Ware?

  Because you can't be faffed to do it yourself.

• 19:25Speaker 05

  But when it's, when it's done and it's really herby and it's moist and it's just, and there's good gravy.

• 19:31Jessie Ware?

  But how do you make the gravy if you're?

• 19:33Speaker 05

  Well, I'm not vegetarian or vegan, so I sometimes just say, oh, just give me the meat gravy.

• 19:37Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 19:38Speaker 05

  And I do try and eat less meat these days, so sometimes I do have the vegetarian gravy, but I would often, if I'm having a roast, I feel like I've done a good deed with a nut roast. I just slip on the chicken and all as well.

• 19:49Jessie Ware?

  Have we got, have we got any vegans or vegetarians in the audience tonight?

• 19:52Speaker 05

  Hello, welcome, and I would like to know, what do you do for your sexy gravy? Is it a lot of mushroom, umami stuff? What do you do?

• 20:04Jessie Ware?

  Bisto. You what?

• 20:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, lovely.

• 20:08Jessie Ware?

  Pepper sauce.

• 20:09Speaker 05

  Do you know what though? Jamie Oliver's vegan Christmas gravy is so delicious. And just as delicious or even more delicious than the meat version. You've just got to work at it a bit, haven't you?

• 20:22Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 20:22Speaker 05

  But that, Chris's brother and nephew came to us one Christmas. They were both vegan. And so John bought the vegan gravy. And it was, I chose it over my meat gravy that I had worked on for days. I like, but the vegan gravy was just so lovely.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  Who's cooking Christmas dinner this year?

• 20:42Speaker 05

  I'll cook it.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  Who's coming?

• 20:45Speaker 05

  Our parents.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  Both sets?

• 20:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, we've got a bunch coming this year, don't we?

• 20:50Speaker 05

  It's, it's, uh, yeah, so Chris's mum and dad.

• 20:53Speaker 04

  We're gonna make them fight. We're gonna make the parents, like, the parents fight.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  What? Do they not get on?

• 21:01Speaker 04

  Just for our love. Just to see, we feel like after this year, we only really have the time for one set.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Okay. Okay.

• 21:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, so strongest wins.

• 21:11Speaker 03

  So next year, you just have one?

• 21:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:13Speaker 04

  That's it. It just feels easier.

• 21:16Jessie Ware?

  Should we bring on some food now?

• 21:18Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 21:19Jessie Ware?

  We're gonna try, you know how it is when we do the live podcast, it's more picky bits. So we did hear though, on a podcast on, that you particularly like chips.

• 21:32Speaker 05

  I love chips.

• 21:32Jessie Ware?

  No, no, sorry, not chips. Sorry.

• 21:36Jessie Ware?

  Sorry. I thought I was in, I thought I was in Los Angeles for a moment. Crisps. Crisps with potato salad.

• 21:43Speaker 05

  Oh god, this has followed me around. I was, um...

• 21:46Jessie Ware?

  Well, you're about to get a whole plate.

• 21:47Speaker 05

  Lovely.

• 21:48Jessie Ware?

  Please bring in the food, guys.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  That's my girl.

• 21:50Speaker 05

  Such a hungover moment, standing at the fridge, like... Full. Need carbs. Yeah. Salt and vinegar kettle chips and there was just some really lovely potato salad in the fridge. So I started loading the potato salad onto the crisps. And I was like, this is spectacular. And I said that on another food podcast. And then on almost every time I've ever talked about food publicly ever, they've been like, is this your favourite food? And I'm like, sure. It's, I mean, I, basically it is my favourite food.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Well, we took you at your word.

• 22:21Speaker 05

  Good.

• 22:21Jessie Ware?

  Well, no, we've got some other bits and bobs coming up, but I, that would not be my hangover go to, I have to say.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  Have you tried it?

• 22:28Jessie Ware?

  I haven't. I'm a bit funny about anything that's a bit mayonnaisey. I don't like Russian salad. Keep that away from me.

• 22:33Speaker 05

  Yeah. Oh.

• 22:34Speaker 04

  What is your hangover food?

• 22:36Speaker 03

  What's your hangover food?

• 22:37Jessie Ware?

  Marmite.

• 22:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:38Jessie Ware?

  Lots of marmite, um, buttery bread.

• 22:42Speaker 04

  What's the receptacle?

• 22:43Speaker 05

  Hello, everybody.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  Oh, hello.

• 22:44Jessie Ware?

  Okay, right, so. We have.

• 22:48Speaker 04

  Look at you with your sausage.

• 22:49Jessie Ware?

  Also, this is Jo, who helps us out on the podcast.

• 22:52Speaker 04

  Hi, Jo.

• 22:53Speaker 05

  Hi.

• 22:54Jessie Ware?

  And, um, and that is, that is producer Alice. It's a family affair here.

• 22:58Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Beautiful.

• 23:01Jessie Ware?

  So, yeah, just tuck in. There's like, you're dairy free and you're gluten free.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:05Jessie Ware?

  And so there's a bit.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  No pressure, yeah.

• 23:07Jessie Ware?

  But, but, but Dawn, you did say on your desert island dishes that you love the task of having a dietary requirement.

• 23:14Speaker 05

  I love cooking so much and I love the challenge of cooking.

• 23:17Jessie Ware?

  Sorry, I'm just trying to get an answer here, man.

• 23:18Speaker 05

  That if, um, if someone is coming over and they, and I say dietary requirement. So we were doing a Thanksgiving two years ago in LA when we lived there and we had 16 people coming over. And there was, you know, I'm gluten free. We had some dairy free. And then there was a gluten free vegan who doesn't like mushrooms. Like, that's hard.

• 23:38Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, that is hard.

• 23:39Speaker 05

  And so, um, he was being, his girlfriend and him were being very apologetic and they were like, we'll just bring food. And I'm like, you're not going to bring a lunchbox to my fucking Thanksgiving. I can't. So I will do this. And I took the challenge and I, I love the challenge of a dietary requirement.

• 23:55Jessie Ware?

  Lenny, do you love the challenge of dietary requirements?

• 23:58Speaker 03

  I might, my back didn't today. I thought, how did they get, how did they get, oh, one's dairy free and one doesn't have gluten. What are they eating together?

• 24:07Speaker 04

  Well, I'm actually not really dairy free.

• 24:11Speaker 03

  He's eating Parmesan crisps, of course.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  I basically just don't like, if I drink loads of milk, I get itchy.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  I was never gonna give you milk.

• 24:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, you could have told us that, Chris. Could have told us that.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  But apparently like Parmesan, I think is okay. I don't know if that's a funny word, because it's a hard cheese.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  Is that right?

• 24:28Speaker 05

  Mum, did you make them Parmesan crisps? Mum, they look amazing.

• 24:32Speaker 04

  Hold on, did you make them?

• 24:33Speaker 03

  They're very easy.

• 24:34Speaker 05

  They are gorgeous.

• 24:36Speaker 03

  No, you just put a teaspoonful on a baking tray and then cook them in the oven for three minutes.

• 24:44Speaker 05

  That is a good little.

• 24:45Speaker 04

  They're delicious.

• 24:46Speaker 05

  That is a good Christmas, who's having a Christmas party here? Is anyone, yeah.

• 24:51Jessie Ware?

  I think that would be really good for a party, Mum.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  What, darling?

• 24:54Speaker 05

  The Parmesan crisps.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  I know that, darling. I serve it all the time.

• 24:58Speaker 05

  What's this?

• 24:59Speaker 03

  That's crab with radicchio.

• 25:03Speaker 05

  Delicious. Do you know what, I was eating with the microphone here.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  Are you worried about it?

• 25:09Speaker 05

  And then I realised, no.

• 25:10Jessie Ware?

  We've got, I don't know if Jenny is here, but we do give her a shout out. There's a lady that wrote in saying that she loves hearing the mastication. So just do one for Jenny.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  If you just keep chewing, she'll be really happy. Yeah.

• 25:23Speaker 04

  Hey. Can you hear the crabs in my mouth?

• 25:30Speaker 04

  Hope that turns you on.

• 25:33Speaker 03

  So after you'd taken her bowling. After you'd taken her bowling for your first date?

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  Did you?

• 25:41Speaker 04

  No, we never got there.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  You never got bowling, right?

• 25:43Speaker 04

  She had other ideas.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  Okay. How, you, you, you, when did you get married?

• 25:49Speaker 04

  It must have been a week and a half later, I suppose.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  But wait, what, a week and a half? Oh my God. Three years, maybe.

• 25:58Speaker 05

  Three years, yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  And where did you get married?

• 26:01Speaker 04

  On a, on a boat down the road there.

• 26:04Speaker 05

  Do you know the Battersea Barge?

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 26:06Speaker 05

  Such a little venue.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 26:08Speaker 05

  So we did Family and Friends on there and did the official thing. And then we did a wild and wonderful full shebang in a very illegal venue the next day.

• 26:16Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I love that.

• 26:17Speaker 03

  And who did the catering?

• 26:20Speaker 04

  Oh my God, they were wonderful.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter the name, but what was it?

• 26:24Speaker 04

  It was pies.

• 26:25Speaker 03

  Pies?

• 26:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, we sweet. Three different types of pies that we had, so we like at these like, uh, as a one thing. Gorgeous gravy.

• 26:34Jessie Ware?

  Yum.

• 26:35Speaker 05

  Big bowls of potatoes and salads and things, but yeah, they went round with trays of pies and you could choose the vegetarian one, chicken and tarragon, or a beef one.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Delicious. Gluten free?

• 26:45Speaker 05

  No, at the time I was very much ignoring that.

• 26:47Speaker 04

  There was none of the shit there.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  None of this shit there, thank god.

• 26:51Speaker 05

  Um, it was, the food was amazing. And then because Chris is Irish, I'm from Guernsey, but I was born in Scotland. So for the reception food, we did in each corner, there was a station with food from that place.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Oh, I love it.

• 27:07Speaker 05

  So we did like little pots of Irish stew, do you remember, and Colcannon?

• 27:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh, that was so yum.

• 27:12Speaker 05

  And then we did, I can't remember what the Scottish thing was, but then we did for Guernsey, there's this kind of, um, bean jar, which is the local, it's like a local bean stew, little gorgeous little jam jars of that. And then we did something very London as well. So we did a little, and probably an American thing as well, maybe there were five corners of this.

• 27:28Speaker 04

  We got married right at the height of mason jars being popular.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think actually we did a lot for mason jars. We launched them.

• 27:36Jessie Ware?

  They were de- they were definitely in my Pinterest for my wedding, so yeah.

• 27:39Speaker 04

  We had a lot of striped straws.

• 27:45Speaker 04

  Fairy lights, you know the vibe.

• 27:47Speaker 05

  I'm enjoying this food so much.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Oh, you, please.

• 27:50Speaker 05

  The Parmesan crisp in the crab, like crab is my love language.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  We found a new winner, okay.

• 27:54Speaker 04

  What have we got going over here?

• 27:56Speaker 03

  What? Oh, they're little prawns in coriander.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  And this fella here?

• 28:00Speaker 05

  What is that?

• 28:01Speaker 03

  What darling?

• 28:02Jessie Ware?

  Is that smoked salmon?

• 28:03Speaker 03

  I can't see, oh, they're smoked salmon.

• 28:04Speaker 04

  Oh, it's mousse.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm not sure about the mousse. Oh, quail's eggs, fancy pants.

• 28:09Speaker 05

  I'm just making sure I chew in for your aroused listener.

• 28:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:14Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yeah, do a crunch.

• 28:15Speaker 03

  Just let's go quiet, let's listen.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 28:18Jessie Ware?

  And we'll ask the audience if anyone else is aroused.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:21Speaker 05

  Is anyone aroused?

• 28:22Speaker 04

  Oh, that egg just popped in my mouth.

• 28:25Speaker 05

  Did it? I love a quail's egg.

• 28:27Speaker 04

  That was for the listener.

• 28:28Jessie Ware?

  Are you gonna, I thought you were gonna do an arousing crunch?

• 28:31Speaker 05

  I think I did, didn't I?

• 28:32Jessie Ware?

  Oh, all right, okay. Um, so you're a great hope.

• 28:39Jessie Ware?

  You're welcome.

• 28:42Jessie Ware?

  So, we ask every guest their last supper, but we're gonna have to combine yours. Well, we don't have to, but if you both have a very separate one, it's the last supper before you're going somewhere for a very long time.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  Oh, they're going together, Jess.

• 28:59Jessie Ware?

  I don't know.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  We will.

• 29:01Jessie Ware?

  Is it heartbreaking? Okay, they're going together, okay.

• 29:03Speaker 04

  We will.

• 29:06Jessie Ware?

  How is it being married to a very funny man? Is it exhausting?

• 29:14Speaker 05

  It's wonderful.

• 29:15Jessie Ware?

  Is it, but like, do you, do you, has he, you're funny, but do you feel like you've made each other funnier? Or do you just sit in silence? Do you have to like, like, I don't know, I wanna know.

• 29:27Speaker 04

  I think we've made each other runnier.

• 29:33Speaker 05

  Have we made each other funny? We definitely have. Chris taught me a really great word once. Do you remember it? Do you remember the word you taught me?

• 29:38Speaker 04

  I taught you so many words.

• 29:40Speaker 05

  No, the word you taught me about the way we talk to each other, do you remember that?

• 29:42Speaker 04

  Vernacular.

• 29:43Speaker 05

  Oh, vernacular. He taught me the word vernacular, which I just thought was a brilliant word. And we do have a very kind of unique, we do this thing, like, you know how when you're being funny with somebody, you've got a sense of humour with somebody, and then you take it out into the wild, and people are like, "What the fuck are you doing?" The one thing we do is, we repeat.

• 30:05Jessie Ware?

  I found out, Chris O'Dowd is a snorter.

• 30:07Speaker 05

  A snorter. We repeat sounds, so if we're sitting in a restaurant, and outside, a car beeps the horn, we go beep beep.

• 30:19Speaker 04

  And we've started taking quite pride in like, how close to the sound of the streets we can mimic.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  And we'll go to each other, that was really good, that was really, that was really good.

• 30:27Speaker 04

  Good siren.

• 30:31Speaker 05

  There's a lot of that.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  That sounds fun.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  It's like being married to toddlers.

• 30:37Speaker 05

  It's great. You love a dog bark.

• 30:38Speaker 04

  I do love a dog bark.

• 30:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I love a car horn. Meow, meow.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  What a fucking ledge.

• 30:45Speaker 05

  That was a good one.

• 30:47Speaker 04

  She can car horn with the best of them.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  She can, I can hear. I wondered, do you know, if he's told a funny story, when you go out, you say, "Oh, you must tell them that story, that really funny story," and he goes, "I've told it about 88 times." Do you do that to him?

• 31:04Speaker 05

  No, I don't think so.

• 31:05Speaker 03

  Oh, good.

• 31:06Speaker 04

  There's never been a moment where she'd wanted me to speak more.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  I think Chris has got quite a good gauge of, for his own personal entertainment, would start to tell a story that maybe he'd told multiple times, and almost his inner monologue would be, "I've heard this a thousand times, can't be bothered." Like, you would stop yourself telling a story because you would want to be entertained by the story as well.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  I find myself so boring. You know, that I find company important, but also, it's like, "Oh, the fucking anecdotes of life. Like, what's the point, Jesus? Like, pulling my own hair out of my voice."

• 31:44Speaker 05

  I do think there's a difference between being a very funny person, and it's so much of your job, than being somebody who has to write an hour of comedy and stand on stage and deliver. And when you come off from doing that, and everyone just expects you to be really funny all the time, that must be so hard.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  It must be.

• 31:59Speaker 05

  It's like, we just want you to be singing constantly. You're not allowed to not be singing.

• 32:04Speaker 03

  Are you giving us a song tonight?

• 32:06Speaker 05

  As I was saying that, I was like, there's a- I'm not gonna fucking sing a song tonight, Mum. Stop asking.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  I would like to hear your first one.

• 32:11Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 32:16Speaker 05

  Guys, it's not gonna happen. You could've come to False Idols on Saturday and heard me sing, all right?

• 32:23Speaker 05

  So, back to your last supper. Starter, main, pud, drink of choice.

• 32:31Speaker 05

  Am I gluten free in this?

• 32:32Jessie Ware?

  You can be whatever you want.

• 32:36Speaker 05

  I love like a really garlicy, chorizo-y, tomato-y, chilli bake with some sort of melted cheese in the middle and like toasted ciabatta for a starter.

• 32:51Jessie Ware?

  Wow. Have you had this somewhere?

• 32:53Speaker 05

  I cook it.

• 32:54Jessie Ware?

  Oh, yum.

• 32:55Speaker 05

  Well, I haven't for years, but that would be... I remember we had some people over for dinner once and I cooked that and it was one of the most successful things I've ever cooked. And just like in a big earthenware pot, just cooked that, just like three hours of chorizo and tomatoes and we all just dug in and it could have been the whole night, it was so delicious.

• 33:13Jessie Ware?

  But the burps are bad on chorizo.

• 33:16Speaker 05

  They are bad.

• 33:18Speaker 04

  You've got some absolute affirmation over there about...

• 33:21Speaker 05

  Hey, Barbie!

• 33:23Jessie Ware?

  That's the vegan.

• 33:25Speaker 04

  If you want to ever meet anybody who's belched.

• 33:29Speaker 05

  They're over there.

• 33:30Jessie Ware?

  But, okay, so you're saying because you're gluten free you wouldn't have the baguette, but you can get kind of... you'd have the baguette for the last supper?

• 33:36Speaker 05

  Yeah, if it was my last supper, definitely.

• 33:37Jessie Ware?

  That sounds delicious.

• 33:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, lovely.

• 33:39Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so Chris, would you go for a similar starter or what are you doing?

• 33:47Speaker 04

  I was trying to think of this soup that we used to have in this steak restaurant and I think it might have been an asparagus and fennel soup. That you would have sometimes as a bit of a palate cleanser before you have a kind of very heavy steak.

• 34:06Speaker 04

  And I want that.

• 34:07Jessie Ware?

  Do you know which restaurant it was at?

• 34:09Speaker 04

  It was La Ciotte, which is... you know that place in Marylebone where they just do steak and they cut it up and give you loads of chips?

• 34:16Speaker 05

  There's always a queue.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  I know, but you can't get in, the queue goes right.

• 34:21Speaker 04

  Longchamp.

• 34:23Jessie Ware?

  No, what's it called? Who knows the place in Marylebone?

• 34:25Speaker 03

  And you have to queue for about half an hour.

• 34:28Jessie Ware?

  Come here, you know it, come here. Just get on the mic, babe. Hi, what's your name? What's your name? Say it on the mic. Catherine. Hi Catherine.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  Hi Catherine.

• 34:39Jessie Ware?

  Merry Christmas, I love you too. What is the restaurant you think it's called? Is it called Steak and Frit? No. No, sit down Catherine.

• 34:48Jessie Ware?

  Thanks Catherine.

• 34:49Speaker 04

  But that is what they serve Catherine. That is what they serve. Like literally that's all they serve. They don't, there isn't a menu, it's just steak and they serve it twice with chips.

• 34:58Jessie Ware?

  But you're choosing the soup.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  But they do, they've got a starter, but they've only got one main. That's the one in Marylebone, but there was one in LA called La Ciega, which is the same idea, right? And they would have a soup and just steak and three.

• 35:11Jessie Ware?

  Catherine, you were never gonna get that, it was in LA. I fucked it for you, I'm so sorry.

• 35:15Speaker 05

  But L'Arche en Marylebone is amazing and is a queue around the block, but you're in and out in 45 minutes, so it's always worth queuing because you will get in.

• 35:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's two hour queue. I tried once.

• 35:26Speaker 04

  This is really that busy, jeez Louise.

• 35:28Speaker 05

  But you know what they do? They give you dinner.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  Well, that's what I expect.

• 35:32Speaker 05

  And then they give it to you again. No, but then they give it to you again.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  You're only allowed two helpings.

• 35:36Speaker 05

  But they're just doing you the whole thing again. It's really, it's really yummy. Yeah, you love that soup.

• 35:40Jessie Ware?

  So we've got the soup. What drink are we going for? Or are you having any sides with your soup?

• 35:46Speaker 04

  I would have, I would probably have a little bit of bread. Something, something like either a porridge bread or a soda bread.

• 35:57Jessie Ware?

  Love a soda bread. A porridge bread?

• 36:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love a porridge bread.

• 36:01Jessie Ware?

  I've never had it, I don't think.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Oh, very easy to make as well.

• 36:04Jessie Ware?

  No kneading?

• 36:06Speaker 04

  No kneading, no.

• 36:07Jessie Ware?

  Oh, I love that.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  No, it's actually just natural yogurt and porridge and you stick it all in together and a little bit of seasoning.

• 36:14Jessie Ware?

  Have you got the recipe?

• 36:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's so easy, that's it.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  That's it?

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Maybe a bit of seasoning, a bit of...

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Porridge and yogurt and you bake it?

• 36:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you stir it up in a pot, a little bit of, in the actual yogurt pot, and then you put it into your baking tray, grease it a little bit.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  How does it rise?

• 36:36Speaker 04

  You have, ah, you've got a little bit of baker powder in it, but what do you touch?

• 36:40Speaker 03

  Okay, a baking powder.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  And it doesn't rise much.

• 36:44Jessie Ware?

  Okay, so drinks, what are we going for? I hear that you don't drink wine anymore.

• 36:50Speaker 05

  I had to really cut down on wine.

• 36:51Jessie Ware?

  Is this what's, I'm now 40, you said it's a thing that happens when you're 40s.

• 36:55Speaker 05

  It's really annoying because I love red wine more than I love my own children. But it just started to do, I would just get so drunk, like head floppy drunk, which I don't really want to be. Don't sleep. And then the hangover is just days and days and days. So I was like, I think I have to give up drinking, which for me is really very hard.

• 37:16Speaker 04

  Doing anything keeping the Mires together.

• 37:18Speaker 05

  And then my sister said.

• 37:19Jessie Ware?

  I'm just gonna get you another tea.

• 37:20Speaker 05

  Thank you darling, another green tea, thanks. And then my sister said, it's just wine, just stop drinking wine. And so I did, I stopped drinking wine for like eight months and realised that I can drink an awful lot of prosecco. And I can drink an awful lot of tequila. But yesterday at my terrible Sunday lunch, because it was so sad, I had a really delicious glass of red wine, so I'd just treat myself like middle of the day, but I used to drink it all night, I just can't do that anymore.

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Dawn is basically on the motherland diet.

• 37:51Speaker 05

  What's the motherland?

• 37:52Jessie Ware?

  Prosecco and spag bol.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  Spag bol.

• 37:54Speaker 05

  Well, without the gluten though.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  Without the gluten.

• 37:56Speaker 05

  Spag, prosecco and spag.

• 37:59Speaker 05

  I do like, you know, I eat a lot of pasta, but it's all gluten free. But the, so red wine, I love, but you asked what the drink be, I'm like, love, I love margaritas.

• 38:09Speaker 03

  Do you like a spicy marg?

• 38:10Jessie Ware?

  I love a margarita.

• 38:11Speaker 05

  Spicy marg, but just love a classic on the rocks with salt. That is the perfect drink. We've been living in LA for a long time.

• 38:19Jessie Ware?

  Bet you've got some good margaritas.

• 38:20Speaker 05

  Tequila and lime is the, you know, I think, immediately thinking back to us into the pandemic, being like, we have to at least get till noon.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:29Speaker 05

  Before we're allowed our lime smoothie.

• 38:34Speaker 05

  And, but just that taste goes with tacos, that's such a part of the life out there, isn't it?

• 38:39Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, just that lime flavour.

• 38:41Speaker 05

  Love it.

• 38:42Speaker 03

  When did you move back?

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Last year, last summer-ish time.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  And is that it for permanently here now?

• 38:52Speaker 05

  I think so, yeah. Well, you know, while the kids are at school, I think, probably. But, you know, I think with the job that Chris does and the life that we live and the kind of people that we are, I don't think you could ever say ever on, never say, you know, forever on anything. But it does, it does feel like a bit of a came home vibe.

• 39:12Jessie Ware?

  Can I, well, I want to talk about Choose Love in a bit. I'm just going to get your Last Supper and then we can talk about how you got involved with Choose Love.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Oh, I got to tell you my drink.

• 39:22Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, I'd like to hear it.

• 39:23Speaker 04

  So this is the first drink of the evening.

• 39:25Jessie Ware?

  You're not sharing margaritas?

• 39:27Speaker 04

  Well, we could.

• 39:28Speaker 05

  Chris makes a stunning margarita.

• 39:31Speaker 04

  I love a margarita. I can only have a couple of them, though. I find them, after a while, they're a bit too limey.

• 39:36Jessie Ware?

  Uh huh.

• 39:37Speaker 04

  But a martini.

• 39:38Jessie Ware?

  What's your martini?

• 39:40Speaker 04

  Gin martini extra dirty.

• 39:43Jessie Ware?

  That's Jesse. Martini extra dirty, but I can't do the gin.

• 39:46Speaker 04

  Oh, really? I never like, I don't actually like it in anything other than that and the G and T.

• 39:51Jessie Ware?

  Delicious.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  What else is there? What else is there? Oh, it's like, oh no, you don't like a gin, a ginger ale?

• 39:58Jessie Ware?

  I love a G and T, but I just, well, anyway, that sounds amazing. Do you make a good gin martini?

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:04Jessie Ware?

  Filthy.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  Well, maybe I don't, but I was a cocktail barman for a short time, so I put some energy into it.

• 40:12Jessie Ware?

  Did you ever call yourself a mixologist?

• 40:14Speaker 05

  Chris will walk into the kitchen, pick up a bottle of wine, throw it into the air and spin it six times while I have a panic attack and catch it every single time.

• 40:21Speaker 04

  She doesn't love it when I do that.

• 40:23Jessie Ware?

  Why?

• 40:25Speaker 05

  It terrifies me. Because I'm like, he'll go, ha ha, walk off.

• 40:28Jessie Ware?

  And the children are standing just underneath, yeah. Daddy, do it again. Can we get your, can we get your main, please?

• 40:37Speaker 04

  Oh my God, you go, do you have something to, oh, if I was going to, this is Last Supper, I would probably do an Irish stew, Irish lamb stew, that's been marinating for hours and hours, maybe a couple of days in it, maybe it's somebody's wake.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  Maybe they died before their time. We don't know. Maybe it was at the hand of their greatest enemy. But anyway, it's been marinating and with some buttery spuds.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  That or like a stroganoff dish, something in that world, beef stew.

• 41:14Jessie Ware?

  Stewie, okay. You love a goulash?

• 41:16Speaker 04

  Love a goulash.

• 41:18Speaker 03

  Can you cook a goulash?

• 41:19Speaker 04

  No, I've actually never tried to cook a goulash. I should, shouldn't I?

• 41:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, you should, yeah.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  It's just paprika, isn't it?

• 41:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, and a bit of cream.

• 41:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, and all the other main ingredients.

• 41:28Speaker 03

  No cream, not in a goulash, that's stroganoff, isn't it? It's paprika, paprika.

• 41:32Speaker 04

  Paprika, it's Hungarian, isn't it? And I have some Hungarian, because I was working with a Hungarian lady and she says, "Oh, I've got the best paprika." I'm like, "Well, I'm not going to challenge you."

• 41:42Speaker 05

  And you brought it home and it was absolutely lovely?

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Yes, gorgeous. It makes a big difference, I'm sure. It's one of those things where it's a delicacy somewhere else and we don't really think about it.

• 41:50Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, absolutely. Can I get your main, please? Because that was your starter, the chorizo was the starter.

• 41:57Speaker 05

  But I really do love fish. And I love fish in butter and garlic and capers and black olives and all the salty deliciousness. So I think my main would be some kind of crispy-skinned fish with a butter, caper, black olive sauce on buttery-squashed potatoes, just boiled but squashed with lots of butter in. And then a garlicky side salad is just the perfect meal.

• 42:28Jessie Ware?

  Tell me about your vinaigrette that you make.

• 42:31Speaker 05

  So I've done the same vinaigrette for years. And my friends in America would always be like, "What is this?" Because everything over there is full of mayonnaise or full of sugar. Like, the dressings are really, they're real cocktails. And I think the most simple dressing is the best. So I've always done what my auntie did, just really good quality olive oil, balsamic vinegar, a little pinch of mustard powder and a crush of garlic, garlic and salt and pepper. And that, just on green leaves, is just so delicious. And my friends would always be like, "What's in this dressing? What's in this dressing?" But it was just...

• 43:04Speaker 05

  That kind of unbottled, unpreserved, raw garlic flavour. Some people, it's not for them, but for me, that's what I love. If garlic's gone through any kind of bottling, or process, or pickling, or sitting for too long, I like it when it's raw.

• 43:18Jessie Ware?

  So you won't make a vat of it and put it in the fridge?

• 43:21Speaker 05

  I used to, and then I realised that I actually just, I prefer making it there and then.

• 43:24Jessie Ware?

  You like the hum?

• 43:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

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• 44:31Jessie Ware?

  Can we talk about, are you ever going to make documentaries? Are you going to do documentaries again?

• 44:35Speaker 05

  Because... I don't think so. I love that I did them, Phil.

• 44:38Jessie Ware?

  You were like, you know, we adore Stacey. You were like the original.

• 44:44Speaker 05

  Thank you.

• 44:45Jessie Ware?

  I feel like it needs to be acknowledged, like you...

• 44:47Speaker 05

  Well, that's really nice. I do, and I do, I feel like now, I felt at the time that I was doing something that nobody else is doing.

• 44:53Jessie Ware?

  It's like Louis and you.

• 44:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. I felt at the time like I was doing something that nobody else is doing, so that definitely does take the fun away from doing it again a bit.

• 45:01Jessie Ware?

  Uh huh.

• 45:03Speaker 05

  The hours are so long and it takes you, I love sitting at my desk. I love writing my books so much and I love being able to do a nine to five at my desk.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:11Speaker 05

  And so if I do TV again in that way, it just takes me away from that.

• 45:17Speaker 03

  Would you ever do fiction?

• 45:18Speaker 05

  I do fiction.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  No, I mean telly wise. No, would you ever?

• 45:21Speaker 05

  No, I am the world's worst. I had a small cameo in Skins and I thought I was gonna be so great that they'd be like, "Oh my god, Dawn is so talented." Just get her on. And I was so awkward. I was so stiff and so terrible. I was like, "No, that is not, that was, thank god I didn't want to do that."

• 45:45Speaker 03

  Maybe you just didn't have the right director.

• 45:47Speaker 05

  But Chris will just not give me even the smallest part in one of his shows, which I think is very mean.

• 45:52Speaker 03

  Oh, Chris. Chris.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  You're right.

• 45:55Speaker 05

  I could improve.

• 45:56Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  You could get her to do the sirens.

• 46:02Speaker 04

  I've been lucky enough for

• 46:04Speaker 03

  To do sirens.

• 46:05Speaker 04

  For the last 15 years to have Dawn read with me while I was preparing for auditions. And it's a real insight

• 46:14Speaker 04

  into the voices that a person can do.

• 46:17Speaker 05

  I do the accents that are in the script.

• 46:19Speaker 04

  I'll be like, "Dawn, in this one, you're an FBI agent." It's a big mistake telling her that.

• 46:26Speaker 04

  She rolls into the room.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  But has it almost, has it ever led to more intimate times like cosplay?

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Not as much as you would like.

• 46:36Speaker 05

  Okay, Chris, it's time to go upstairs. He's like, "No, it's not."

• 46:44Speaker 03

  But did Dawn, did you go, what did you do when you left school? Did you go to university?

• 46:48Speaker 05

  Well, I went to drama school and did three years of acting.

• 46:49Speaker 03

  You went to drama school?

• 46:51Speaker 05

  Um.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  Oh, right.

• 46:52Speaker 05

  But luckily.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  So you were trained.

• 46:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, in the third year, I realised, I just, this isn't where my heart is. So I, instead of doing a play, everyone was being marked on a play as their final project. I came down to London and I worked as a runner on the Badilla Skinner Show. And I got, so Avalon Productions marked me for my final thing instead of doing a play. So just kind of, that was the right thing to do. And then, you know, I left university and came down to London and worked behind the scenes in TV for a really long time. And it was, I worked out it wasn't what I was going to do before I failed miserably at it. Thank god.

• 47:30Jessie Ware?

  To drama school.

• 47:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 47:35Speaker 04

  Which seems shocking.

• 47:38Speaker 04

  But I did, I went to Lambda here in London.

• 47:40Jessie Ware?

  Okay.

• 47:40Speaker 04

  And I had gone, I had been doing a degree in politics.

• 47:45Jessie Ware?

  Yeah.

• 47:45Speaker 04

  And enjoyed that, but while I was there, I was running the National Student Drama Festival. Became obsessed just with student theatre and then was doing lots of theatre above pubs and things like that. And then came here to drama school. And that was, yeah, twenty five years ago and it kind of started there.

• 48:03Jessie Ware?

  What was in your fridge when you were at drama school?

• 48:06Speaker 04

  Oh man, there was just a lot of passant cheese, honestly, it was poor.

• 48:11Jessie Ware?

  But didn't you say that you ate like multiple fry-ups a day?

• 48:14Speaker 04

  Oh, at drama school, we had a place on the way to work or on the way to fucking school. Like just a builder's cafe, really, so we would have like a builder's breakfast and it was so cheap that I would have it twice.

• 48:27Jessie Ware?

  Of course.

• 48:28Speaker 04

  There was, it had a net negative nutritional value.

• 48:34Jessie Ware?

  But you love breakfast, don't you?

• 48:36Speaker 04

  Breakfast's my favourite meal, quite easily.

• 48:38Jessie Ware?

  Absolutely, me too, that's why the fasting thing does not work for me.

• 48:42Speaker 04

  Right.

• 48:43Jessie Ware?

  Because I, but I will have the breakfast at twelve, but it's just like, it's what I want.

• 48:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:47Jessie Ware?

  What did you have for brekkie this morning?

• 48:50Speaker 04

  Where was I this morning? Oh, we were in Weymouth, oh, I, we had a.

• 48:54Jessie Ware?

  You were there this morning?

• 48:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was there this morning, so we had a bacon bap. But if, in a perfect world, I'll want, I'm not hungry immediately when I wake up. So I'll have some coffee, maybe a smoothie if I can be arsed to make one. And then at around, maybe I'll do the school run, walk the dogs, and then at around like ten, I'll maybe be hungry. And then I'll, I'll want, um, definitely some lovely eggs, maybe a bit of avocado, a bit of avocado, but lovely, lovely bacon.

• 49:26Jessie Ware?

  I just love, I love the idea of you calling it avocado.

• 49:29Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  But just, I loved it in America as well and Mexican breakfasts, I really kind of miss. A bit of spice in the morning is really nice.

• 49:41Jessie Ware?

  Do you do a breakfast burrito? Do you do any Mexican here when you're at home? Like, if so, which taco are you gonna go for?

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Oh, well, I'll have an al pastor or a carnitas. But I haven't found the right places where we are yet. I don't know if London is necessarily a hotspot for great Mexican food.

• 50:00Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, it's hard to top LA and Mexico.

• 50:02Speaker 05

  The Mexican food there is so incredible.

• 50:05Jessie Ware?

  It really is, isn't it?

• 50:07Speaker 05

  And the tacos, whenever I make them at home, I'm like, there's a thousand toppings. And actually, when you go for a really good taco, there's like three toppings. They've just done it really well. It's delicious. And I really, we do miss that culture of just popping out.

• 50:21Speaker 04

  Huevos rancheros.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, huevos rancheros.

• 50:24Jessie Ware?

  You could make that.

• 50:25Speaker 05

  You can make that.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's probably not that tricky, isn't it? I've never tried huevos rancheros.

• 50:28Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, no, you could do that. What's your pudding? Have you got sweet teeth?

• 50:32Speaker 05

  You do. I don't. I really don't eat pudding. If I make pudding, if we're having people over, I make an avocado chocolate mousse.

• 50:40Jessie Ware?

  Why?

• 50:41Speaker 05

  My version of a Jamie Oliver recipe. You would not know it was avocado.

• 50:44Jessie Ware?

  Oh, because of the dairy free?

• 50:45Speaker 05

  No, but not even that. It's just delicious.

• 50:48Jessie Ware?

  Really?

• 50:48Speaker 05

  It is good, isn't it?

• 50:49Speaker 04

  Oh, your mousse. Oh, it's so good.

• 50:52Speaker 05

  The avocado just does what butter would do. The kids think it's absolutely lovely and it's so decadent and it's so lovely. And there's no butter, sugar or cream in it. I'll put it on Instagram tomorrow and you will love it.

• 51:09Speaker 04

  And then I have a magnum.

• 51:10Speaker 05

  It takes 30 seconds.

• 51:10Jessie Ware?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna try making it.

• 51:12Speaker 05

  Chris has a magnum.

• 51:16Speaker 05

  It's got loads of coconut cream in it and maple syrup. It's not, you know, we're not idiots. It's delicious. But I'm sure if I was to make your dream pudding, it wouldn't be that.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  No.

• 51:28Jessie Ware?

  Wouldn't be mine, I hope, Chris.

• 51:29Speaker 05

  No, but okay, Chris.

• 51:30Speaker 04

  It is really good though. I'm not joking. It's absolutely delicious.

• 51:32Jessie Ware?

  What, what would yours be?

• 51:34Speaker 04

  I like, I like, you know, I love a sticky toffee. In a perfect world, what you call it, New York cheesecake with something nice on top. That kind of world, I think.

• 51:46Jessie Ware?

  And what drink are you going for around?

• 51:48Speaker 03

  The mains and the pud.

• 51:51Speaker 04

  Well, for pud, those are two different questions. But for the pud, I'd probably have a Peaty whisky, a Peaty West of Ireland whisky.

• 52:01Speaker 04

  And then for the main course, probably a red wine. Was I having a beef stew?

• 52:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:05Speaker 04

  I'd have a Rioja probably.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Uh huh, lovely.

• 52:08Speaker 04

  And see how we feel after that.

• 52:11Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 52:12Speaker 05

  I do love an Amaretto.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  Oh, I used to drink that a lot when I was 16.

• 52:16Speaker 05

  Interesting, because I don't really eat puddings. So if I'm in a restaurant, very rarely would order dessert. But I do love getting double Amaretto with one ice cube.

• 52:25Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 52:27Speaker 05

  That's good. That's good shit.

• 52:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh god, yeah. We used to drink a lot of Amaretto, didn't we, back in the day and days?

• 52:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, that was a real thing, wasn't it?

• 52:33Speaker 04

  Oh, I couldn't keep an almond liqueur out of your mouth back in those days.

• 52:37Speaker 03

  Do you, do you like Baileys?

• 52:40Speaker 04

  Do I like which which?

• 52:40Speaker 03

  Baileys.

• 52:41Speaker 05

  Christmas milk.

• 52:42Speaker 04

  Oh, I like a bit of Baileys.

• 52:42Speaker 05

  Christmas milk.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Love a bit of Christmas milk.

• 52:45Speaker 03

  Me too. When, when do you get your first bottle?

• 52:49Speaker 04

  Around 7am maybe.

• 52:51Speaker 03

  No.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  Which, have you already started on the Baileys? It's the beginning of December.

• 52:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's around now, isn't it?

• 52:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:59Speaker 04

  It would be.

• 52:59Speaker 03

  I started, yeah.

• 53:00Speaker 05

  It's around now when you're like, what kind of milk do you want in your coffee?

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Sunday, like after breakfast, something, yeah.

• 53:04Speaker 03

  Oh, not after breakfast?

• 53:05Speaker 04

  No.

• 53:06Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 53:06Speaker 04

  No, because I love to put a little bit in the coffee.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  Of course you do.

• 53:09Speaker 04

  Which is nice.

• 53:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:11Speaker 04

  Um, because I don't do the dairy as much, I got the almond one, you know.

• 53:15Speaker 03

  The almond Baileys?

• 53:16Speaker 04

  An almond Baileys.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  Shut up.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  You're kidding me.

• 53:19Speaker 04

  No, and it's grand.

• 53:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not as good, but it's, it does the job.

• 53:23Speaker 04

  It's the fucking same, but they've done their best and I'm proud of them.

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Who, who's gonna get a Baileys when they go to half time? Anyone tickled? Are you gonna get one? I fancy one now. Um, and whilst you're there, you're also gonna buy some merch and some Choose Love goodies, maybe please. Which brings me on to how you got involved with Choose Love. Well, how did I get involved? Well, it was a boozy Sunday lunch with myself and Josie Norton, who is now our CEO. 10 years ago, my baby was there, Art was three months old, I think. And we were just talking at this lunch going, are you watching what's going on with this camp in Calais? Like, why, why isn't everyone in uproar? Why isn't everyone trying to do something?

• 54:09Speaker 05

  And so we said, let's just send a coach, a truckload of supplies. So the next day through our Twitter feeds, would anybody like to send something? We'll get it to Calais. And we got 7,000 packages in 24 hours delivered to this big yellow storage. They'd given us a room and then they had to donate us a floor. I remember at one point, we were trying to get people to come and help organise everything because there was just so much. And I remember just looking down, it was just Tams and Althwaite. I was like, you angels, you just come to organise parcels? And you realise that it was just at this time where everyone's kind of seeing this thing on the news, feeling utterly helpless. And what we did is we just said, we can help you help. Like, we've got an idea.

• 54:54Speaker 05

  But then, all this stuff came, we were like, God, we've got to get it there. And we didn't know how to get it there. And then we were donated a fleet of lorries. And suddenly, one day, we're just waving off all these lorries with all of these supplies. And they went to Calais and they got taken there. And then the team got to Calais and realised, we can't just get here and dump stuff. And so the next thing was, we need a warehouse to organise everything, to do all this. And suddenly, this machine is being created. Now, we were just a bunch of maverick friends trying to do a nice thing. And we all had other jobs. And that was the beginning of Choose Love. We were called Help Refugees. And 10 years later, we've raised £120 million.

• 55:34Jessie Ware?

  Wow.

• 55:36Speaker 05

  Incredible. It's incredible. And the money that you've raised tonight, I think we're around 25 grand tonight?

• 55:42Jessie Ware?

  I think maybe we are. And so that is so amazing. Thank you so much.

• 55:46Speaker 05

  I cannot tell you how amazing that is. That money will go directly to the cause. And we exist mainly because of our public crowdfunding and how much people support us. So we've got our Christmas shop this year on Regent Street, right next to the Apple Store.

• 56:08Jessie Ware?

  Which is amazing.

• 56:09Speaker 05

  It's amazing. You go in and you buy whatever you want, whatever you're passionate about for somebody's, somebody else's journey. And we'll get it to them. And...

• 56:18Jessie Ware?

  Every year, there's certain times over the year when it just feels like such hard work and it's so disappointing, it's like, "Oh my god, this is just so hard, does anybody care? Is there anyone out there?" And every year, we look at what you guys have raised and what people turn up to the shop and actually say, "What can I do? How much can I give?" And it's always so incredible. I think Choose Love is a movement, not just a charity, and you're all part of it, and thank you so much.

• 56:53Jessie Ware?

  I really don't want to now bring it back to food, because that was a beautiful way to finish.

• 56:57Speaker 05

  That's all right.

• 56:57Jessie Ware?

  That was amazing, thank you Dawn, of course. Before we go to a break, and you now go to the merch stand and you think about maybe, honestly, it can be one pound that you donate extra tonight, and we do so appreciate that you've already bought tickets, but if you fancy giving a little bit more, you are very welcome, or if you fancy going to the Regent Street shop, it's such a vibe, there's usually a DJ in there, Mum's on the tills, Dawn will be on the tills, Chris is probably on the tills.

• 57:23Speaker 05

  Chris is the best person on the tills at the Choose Love shop that you've ever seen. Actually, you don't, you stand outside with a placard.

• 57:29Speaker 04

  People find me quite intimidating to say no to.

• 57:33Speaker 05

  Literally drags people in every year, it's brilliant.

• 57:35Speaker 04

  It's good crack, yeah.

• 57:36Jessie Ware?

  It is really good crack.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  It's amazing, and it is an amazing charity.

• 57:39Jessie Ware?

  Absolutely.

• 57:40Speaker 04

  It's refugee help in 41 different countries around the world, some places this is the only help that people are getting. Pulling people out of the water, getting people into warm clothes, helping families when they land in new places with legal care and home care and all of the things that you don't necessarily think about. It's beautiful, what Elana and Josie and Dawn and all of this incredible group of mostly women have kind of done, it's remarkable, and we thank you for being here tonight.

• 58:07Jessie Ware?

  Oh, it's just, it's an absolute honour to talk about Choose Love as well. It makes sense why you changed it from help refugees to Choose Love, because it is the most loving movement. There is so much love and there's so much ambition for this charity, and it's completely selfless. I mean, it's beautiful what you've created, and the merch is great. And it looks really good on kids, too, so you can get little, small sizes maybe. Or you can get it in the shop. Now, back to the Table Manners podcast. We need to just round it up with you both giving us your nostalgic taste or smell.

• 58:42Speaker 05

  I think I'm garlic.

• 58:43Jessie Ware?

  Garlic.

• 58:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think, I think I'm just garlic.

• 58:46Jessie Ware?

  Raw or buttery?

• 58:47Speaker 05

  You know when someone goes, "Oh, I'm sorry about my garlic breath", I'm like, "Oh, I love, I love the smell of garlic on someone's breath." I just want to go, "What did you eat? Was it amazing?"

• 58:57Jessie Ware?

  No.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Do you love it as much?

• 59:00Speaker 04

  We haven't, we haven't been that close in a while that she would smell it.

• 59:06Speaker 05

  But garlic is, I just think the best, like, cooking garlic is the best smell on the planet.

• 59:12Jessie Ware?

  I'm very into garlic, but that smell a few hours later, or even the day after, it's the day after I can't do. I can't do it, Dawn.

• 59:20Speaker 05

  I don't mind it at all. I also think, and you might correct me on this, but I've eaten so much raw garlic that I think my body has quite a high tolerance. I don't think it lingers on me for like the next day. Maybe it does. I just don't smell it.

• 59:34Jessie Ware?

  You're actually not called a cat lady or called garlic lady.

• 59:37Speaker 05

  Garlic lady, that's the next book. But I, I don't, I'm just never offended by someone's garlic breath. I want to know what it was they ate and how delicious it was.

• 59:43Speaker 03

  Does anyone ever tell you, "Dawn, you actually smell of garlic, do you want to mint?"

• 59:49Speaker 05

  No, probably because I'm talking over them, telling them about what I ate.

• 59:57Jessie Ware?

  Chris, what's your nostalgic taste?

• 59:59Speaker 04

  Rhubarb crumble.

• 1:00:01Jessie Ware?

  Oh.

• 1:00:02Speaker 04

  Grandad grew a lot of rhubarb in the back garden. And so we'd have rhubarb crumbles for quite a few months.

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  It's mostly sugar, of course, but you could get the, that real hard, sharp hit of rhubarb to you at the back of your throat.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  Did you ever put ginger with it? Did you ever, did your mother ever put ginger with your rhubarb?

• 1:00:22Speaker 04

  Do you know what, I don't know if we ever did. I've had it since. I don't know if we did in my childhood. I won't have that. I don't even know the conditions where ginger grows, if I'm totally honest with you.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  You might just use the powdered one.

• 1:00:34Speaker 04

  Oh, the powdered one, sure. But that's not in grandad's garden.

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  Okay, no, obviously not.

• 1:00:39Speaker 05

  You really, just let him go with his beautiful nostalgic taste.

• 1:00:43Jessie Ware?

  And would you be with custard or cream?

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  Custard, yeah, custard. And a bit of cream, maybe a bit of ice cream, depending on how good we'd been.

• 1:00:53Speaker 05

  A little bit garlic on top.

• 1:00:58Speaker 04

  No one will ever smell it.

• 1:01:00Speaker 03

  Do you guys like karaoke?

• 1:01:04Speaker 05

  Well, very much. Are you offering some kind of situation?

• 1:01:11Speaker 03

  Jessie hates it. I think it's great fun.

• 1:01:14Speaker 05

  But is it because it's just, is it because it's you? Like, everyone's expecting too much?

• 1:01:18Jessie Ware?

  No, I love other people doing it. I just don't like doing it. And I have really bad PTSD from my mum making me do it at Club Med.

• 1:01:27Speaker 05

  Oh, interesting. See, I've been practising one of your songs for karaoke.

• 1:01:29Jessie Ware?

  Shut up.

• 1:01:30Speaker 05

  Hello love. Oh, that's a nice song. Have you?

• 1:01:34Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, I love it.

• 1:01:34Speaker 05

  Oh, that's nice.

• 1:01:35Jessie Ware?

  I don't know if it's on there yet, though, babe. I don't know.

• 1:01:38Speaker 05

  I might have to get it, find it on YouTube and just drown you out.

• 1:01:41Jessie Ware?

  Yeah, drown me out with your garlic breath. I love this already. Yeah, no, mum made me do it at Club Med. And I think I've said this in the podcast already, but she, I was 15. It was Turkey, it was October half-term. And it was a really chilly night, but karaoke was happening. And she went, "You wanna be a singer? You'd better get up on that stage and sing." What did you sing? "I wanna dance with somebody." Like, I mean, she was like, "She'll do Whitney, she'll do Whitney."

• 1:02:13Speaker 05

  Do it now, Jess.

• 1:02:15Jessie Ware?

  No, fuck off. Tell me a fucking joke, Chris. I mean, I'll sing it.

• 1:02:22Speaker 04

  Paddy Englishman, Paddy Irishman, Paddy Scotsman are in a pub with their sons.

• 1:02:28Jessie Ware?

  Oh, fuck off, you're doing that. I'm not singing. I'm not singing.

• 1:02:31Speaker 04

  And Paddy Englishman says, "I called my son George because he was born on St George's Day." And then Paddy Scotsman says, "And this is my son Andrew, and he was born on St Andrew's Day." And Paddy Irishman leans into his son, and he says, "Say nothing, pancake."

• 1:02:59Speaker 05

  Chris O'Dowd and John O'Porter, everybody.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  Well mum, well, I'm slightly in love with the man with the Irish accent. Well, I'm in love with Dawn. Well, I love both of them.

• 1:03:29Jessie Ware?

  You have Chris and I'll have Dawn.

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  Okay. What fabulous stars.

• 1:03:33Jessie Ware?

  They were amazing, absolutely amazing. And do you want to just tell the crowd what a lady just said to you?

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  She said, Lenny, why doesn't Jessie let you speak more during podcasts? And I said, because she's a little jealous because I'm really the star.

• 1:03:54Jessie Ware?

  Exactly that. I'm really sorry that I don't let her speak more.

• 1:03:57Speaker 03

  What a great night.

• 1:03:59Jessie Ware?

  It was really gorgeous. People got really involved. We made a lot of money for Choose Love. If you would like to donate to Choose Love or visit the store in Regent Street this Christmas period, please do. We will put links to Choose Love in our Instagram stories and in the show notes.

• 1:04:16Speaker 03

  Can you buy online?

• 1:04:18Jessie Ware?

  You can buy online and you can spend whatever you want. It's like as little as as much as you want. And everything counts and they so appreciate it. But thank you so much for listening and we hope you enjoyed the live podcast. And maybe we'll go on tour again, I don't know. Would you like to go on tour?

• 1:04:31Speaker 03

  Maybe.

• 1:04:31Jessie Ware?

  The way those people were flocking to you, Lenny.

• 1:04:34Speaker 03

  Flocked towards me, darling.

• 1:04:35Jessie Ware?

  With your chicken soup.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  For the chicken soup, really?

• 1:04:38Jessie Ware?

  No, it was for a moment.

• 1:04:40Speaker 03

  I think it was for the chicken soup. But there you go.

• 1:04:42Jessie Ware?

  Thank you so much and we'll see you next week.

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