Navy Warship Encounters Multiple “TIC TAC” Craft

The 2004 encounter between U. S. Navy aviators and a mysterious TIC TAC shaped craft off the coast of Southern California was perhaps the most consequential UFO incident in history, but it wasn't just a one-off. Turns out, classic designs such as the SR-71, the Corvette Sting Ray, or a pair of Wayfarers never go out of style. Whoever was piloting TIC TACs back in 2004 is apparently still cruising the waters off SoCal. In this episode of WEAPONIZED, Jeremy and George unveil a never-before-seen video recorded by crew members of the USS Jackson in February 2023. Witnesses say they saw four of the TIC TAC objects flying in formation. At least one of the self-illuminated craft was seen as it emerged from the ocean. Two of them were recorded by astonished crew members inside the ship's command center. Who is flying these odd objects and why was this incident not reported up the chain of command or to AARO? Check out the exclusive video and additional info about the encounter. SEE NEW MILITARY FILMED "TIC TAC" UAP FOOTAGE & READ THE FULL & DETAILED NEWS REPORT HERE : https://www.weaponizedpodcast.com/news-1/uss-jackson-tic-tac-uap GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at [email protected] ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2 Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : https://www.netflix.com/title/81674441 ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at WeaponizedPodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:59George Knapp?

  Well, it's obviously springtime, you know, when hope springs eternal, when love is in the air, birds and bees are coming out, and when UFO videos filmed by the military suddenly blossom. These guys in the US Navy who are out there off the coast of Southern California are seeing these things all the time.

• 1:14Jeremy Corbell?

  We're going to release something new today that shows that this activity is ongoing. This is from 2023 off of USS Jackson. This is new footage the world hasn't seen. And it shows, you know, what is one of apparently four TikTok-shaped UAP. All of the craft were observed in an apparent coordinated, synchronized, instantaneous departure indicative of shared communication. This is really nailed home to me by the service members.

• 1:44Speaker 06

  This thing was coming up, and I wasn't shocked that I was seeing it. I was shocked I was sharing the experience.

• 2:02George Knapp?

  This is Weaponized. My name is George Knapp, joined by my colleague Jeremy Corbell. Jeremy, how you doing?

• 2:07Jeremy Corbell?

  Pretty good, man. Excited to talk today with you about what we're gonna show people.

• 2:11George Knapp?

  Well, it's obviously it's springtime, you know, when hope springs eternal, when love is in the air, birds and bees are coming out, and when UFO videos filmed by the military suddenly blossom, right?

• 2:22Jeremy Corbell?

  It's great, man. It's another kind of a point of reflection for us. Military videos have done a lot for the UFO topic over the last, like, you know, five years.

• 2:31George Knapp?

  Yeah, and we've released a lot of them. I mean, a lot of them come from us. It's kind of our thing.

• 2:36Jeremy Corbell?

  That's right. Obtain and release. If we obtain stuff and it seems safe to put out, as journalists, it's our duty to report on it, especially when we have multiple witnesses and people that go on record with us, even if they don't show their face.

• 2:49George Knapp?

  Yeah, I mean, as we've said before on this program, a lot of people send us videos, you know, and it's a ball of light, sea of inky darkness, things moving around, drones, whatever it is, and it's always interesting to receive those. We like them. But the military video, things filmed by our military and analyzed by our military, kind of carries a special weight, because it's, you know where it comes from, you know the kinds of platforms it's recorded on or from, you know, when they say it really is unidentified, it's doing things that we haven't seen before, that packs a little more credibility, correct?

• 3:23Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, military footage has really kind of shaped the global narrative. And you're right, we have been a big part of that. The reason why I think is that there's a lot of trust in there. First of all, you have sensor platforms that look at things other than just optically. So you're looking at thermal signatures, you're looking at radar. When you have corroborative evidence, like we did in 2019, four pieces of corroborative evidence, it's amazing. But basically, when you get these, you have trained observers, people that are taking a risk by going to journalists or putting it out. And then we have bona fide footage that shows things in other spectrums. And I think that's what's really changed the narrative over time.

• 4:06Jeremy Corbell?

  It's got the insight, you know, or the the interest from Congress. It's got the interest from other people in the military. It also provides a sense of permission to talk about this at high levels. So yeah, military footage has done a lot for the UFO topic, more than I think people give it credit for.

• 4:22George Knapp?

  Well, let's take an example, Tic Tac. The Tic Tac incident off the Southern California coast, recorded in 2004, US Navy aviators, Dave Fravor, they encounter this thing. You and I had reported on it for a while. Then it becomes part of the New York Times story in December 2017. And kaboom, it's explosive. The power of that video and Dave Fravor's testimony made that, I think, the most me, the the most consequential UFO of all time, in a sense. Because there was something to see and you had testimony to back it up. And it's, I know that people have analyzed that video over and over again, but really it remains unidentified to this day. And later on in this conversation today, we're going to see more Tic Tacs.

• 5:03George Knapp?

  But that's just one of the examples that's been released that really changed the narrative on the UFO topic. Gimbal, Go Fast. We also released some photos way back. You'll recall, you and I were traveling around in 2018, going to these UFO conferences and had reported to people, US Navy pilots, Oceana on the East Coast are seeing unknown objects every single day. Every single day. And I think people thought we were making it up. And and then, you know, then we were able to release some of the photos, the acorn, the sphere, the metallic blimp with payload.

• 5:41Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah.

• 5:41George Knapp?

  Uh, here they are. And, you know, that that had that had been sitting in our archives for a while. Didn't really know what to make of it, but as we learned, those Navy pilots flying out into their training area were seeing these objects every day, every single day, different sizes, different shapes. And they'd just sit there for days. Um, not acting like drones, not acting like blimps. Uh, they're with, they were sitting there against really high winds way up. And they photographed them. And, uh, you know, and later we see Ryan Graves came forward and testified to the fact that Navy pilots were in fact seeing those things every day, including the spheres inside a box.

• 6:19Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, we knew that what we were reporting, you know, you had great sources on that. We knew and you had evidence. I mean, we knew it was correct. But it took a little while to catch up, but I think people need to see it to believe it. And they also need to see it and understand it. And so I think we've gotten to a point where people will understand what forward looking infrared, what FLIR is with the black and white footage that you see is you're seeing a thermal signature. Normally you would see uh wings, tail, rotor, you would see rotor splash, heat differentials, you see propulsion typically. And that's not, that's not what you're seeing in a lot of this footage. And so I think the, the audience is a little bit wiser now

• 7:01Jeremy Corbell?

  to this. And I think again, the military film footage, it comes with uh better sensor systems, but it also comes with people who are not seeking the limelight. These are people taking a risk to come forward or to bring footage forward. So I think that gives it in my mind, a lot of credibility, especially when we go in, we talk with people, we figure it out. So yeah, that's what we're going to be talking about today is um kind of like how we released the Baghdad Phantom. We released the Syria Dome. We released um the chandelier, we released the, the 2019 series of radar and that's we're going to release something new today

• 7:40Jeremy Corbell?

  that, that shows that this activity is ongoing. This is from 2023 of USS Jackson. This is new footage the world hasn't seen. It's thermal footage and it shows um you know, what is one of apparently four tic tac shaped UAP without normal signature management, without normal uh you know, things that you'd see. And, and look, the footage itself, it needs to be understood, right? So you look at it, but you got to really understand what you're looking at uh and it'll help. It'll help, you know?

• 8:15George Knapp?

  And it just as a, just sort of the, as a as a warning to the interpretation of this video. Shot off a thermal screen at night, way out to sea, complete darkness. People are gonna gripe, "Wow, well, it's grainy footage." Yeah, it's nighttime. It's not an IMAX camera. It's like the USS Omaha, which, you know, even as recently as a week ago, 60 Minutes is trying to dismiss that, as so many have done. "Oh, we don't know what that is. It's gotta be a drone." A 14-foot-long, foot-wide circle that follows a ship at night for more than an hour, and there are 13 or 14 of them picked up on radar, appearing and disappearing. What the hell was that?

• 8:59George Knapp?

  It did go into the water. We know it did. Attempts to dismiss that. I'm sure we're gonna see some of the same kinds of things with the video we're about to see. But, look, it hasn't been explained. They don't know what that is. We don't have something like that that can do what that object did. It did disappear in the water. It was a transmedium. We don't know where it came from. We couldn't track it. We haven't been able to shoot those things down, so it's significant. When our military guys see something that they know is not ours, they don't know whose it is, but they know it is something very unusual.

• 9:34Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, and even more so, the way this type of footage gets out is you have somebody in the Combat Information Center typically filming a screen. So just like the USS Omaha was filmed on this, it was filmed on a screen, but also we got some original clips, but that's, you know, FLIR, forward-looking infrared. So it's not grainy. That's the other thing we should address. I know people say that, but they don't know what they're looking at. This is thermal. This is heat signature. This is where we have a better optic system, especially at night. So it's not just like a light you're seeing. You should be seeing the propulsion system, not just the Tic Tac shape. And you're not seeing that, because it doesn't exist. Now, when you target at the same distance planes on known routes,

• 10:19Jeremy Corbell?

  which is something that this operator did, right? You see the cross of a normal aircraft. You see the normal jets. You see all that stuff. In this footage, you don't. So it's not grainy. It's actually giving you more information than if you had a normal camera.

• 10:38George Knapp?

  We should point out going into this, and we're about to see the video.

• 10:43George Knapp?

  These guys in the US Navy who are out there off the coast of Southern California are seeing these things all the time. I mean, it's not just here and there. They don't always get to record images of these things, but it is not uncommon for them to see these unknowns popping in and out of the water or zipping around or doing things that they shouldn't be able to do, correct?

• 11:01Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, it's almost like a joke. Some of the the guys on these ships say we're almost immune to it. We don't even report it sometimes up the chain of command. It's not a direct threat to us. We're on mission for something else, or we're just moving out like in this case, we're moving out from like a, you know, really unhostile area just off of the coast of California, our favorite sweet spot for UFOs.

• 11:22George Knapp?

  Well, we we know it's been happening since 2004, at least. We know it was happening in 2019, and we know that as recently as 2023, it was going on as well, because that's what we're about to get into, correct?

• 11:34Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, so this is February 15, 2023, warning area 291, which is just off the coast of California, right in that sweet spot, you know, where a lot of the activity was seen on the West Coast. The platform that this is filmed on is the Star Sapphire, which is the same thing as the USS Omaha. The USS Jackson is the ship in 2023 in the Combat Information Center where this was filmed. So again, the Sapphire is like, it's a multi-spectral imaging system. So it's got FLIR, it's got, you know, a couple of different kind of imaging systems it has, but this is at night.

• 12:13Jeremy Corbell?

  So they're using FLIR. So basically, in 2023, the US Navy encountered four Tic Tac shaped UAP off the coast of California. One is kind of featured because that's what it punches into in this footage, and it's a personnel from the USS Jackson in the Combat Information Center that filmed it. One of the vehicles

• 12:36Jeremy Corbell?

  of unknown origin was observed exiting the water. So we'll talk about that not on the camera. This is how it got sighted in the first place. They're up on the bridge and someone sees a craft come up out of the water, almost like doing a systems check, just slowly rising up out of the water. And then it transitioned directly into flight, which is, you know, demonstrating kind of what on your Netflix show, it showed, which is true transmedium capability, moving from water to air and maybe beyond seamlessly. And you'll see there's no flight control surfaces. There's no conventional propulsion signatures like heat plumes exhaust. The UAPs were detected and observed. This is very fascinating in an instantaneous synchronized departure, like all

• 13:20Jeremy Corbell?

  four of them. We know it's not camera artifacts, which we'll get into later. And look, again, the operator, the purpose, the capability, the origin, the intent are all unknown. And these craft, what we're about to show you is a true UAP. It's an unidentified object.

• 13:36George Knapp?

  I think we should play the video and, and our, our listeners, our audience should pay attention to the reactions of crew members when they're seeing this in real time. We'll play it through and then we'll take a look at it again.

• 14:08George Knapp?

  We're surprised.

• 14:13George Knapp?

  You call it the VSS team.

• 14:25Jeremy Corbell?

  That shit took off earlier.

• 14:55Jeremy Corbell?

  That like 20 to 30.

• 15:01Jeremy Corbell?

  That shit took off earlier. So first you kind of see this wide pan and there's a couple targets that are in that area. And then it kind of punches in to that rectangle and it appears the object comes up, but it doesn't. I believe that the camera is auto-tracking from the bottom left object. So it doesn't actually rise up in space. So but the targeting system punches in and you can see it's not artifacts because it's getting these little white X's.

• 15:29George Knapp?

  Yeah, so what does that mean? What does that little blotch mean that's appearing? It shows that it's moving. It really is moving, right?

• 15:35Jeremy Corbell?

  Well, yeah, mainly what it shows is the system is trying to auto-track. It's trying to find the target like it's a real target in space-time. It's out there. It's an object and it is loitering at least at this moment. We have to really look at the designation of the numbers and see like, is it slewing at all to see the movement? So it's undetermined for me if it's loitering at this moment, but at some point, all four, they do move. And this is the reports that came to us and verified on radar is that they all shoot off at the same time. So again, just to kind of paint the picture, somebody's looking out on the bridge. They see one of these craft come up out of the water and rise up.

• 16:19Jeremy Corbell?

  They run over to their radar and in fact, they do see four hard targets, like distinguished targets, not ghost targets. Like they're there. They then move over to this thermal camera Sapphire and just like the USS Omaha. And they're able to see big picture and then punch in. And they're kind of like making jokes as they talk about it, which shows you that they see these things sometimes. They're talking about quick scramble the jets. They're kind of uncomfortably making jokes. And then somebody goes, well, it wouldn't surprise me, I tell you. And then some

• 16:56George Knapp?

  That shape kinda looks familiar, doesn't it? Uh, what would you call that? Uh, kinda tic-tacky?

• 17:01Jeremy Corbell?

  Yeah, that's what they called them. They called them, um, the, the twenty twenty-three Tic Tacs. And, um, yeah, the, the shape itself, it's not quite spherical. It is pretty much identical to what you see with the Tic Tac UFO released, um, well, filmed in two thousand four. This is a kind of more modern version, lower, probably lower altitude because of the camera system. But yeah, it's shaped, the, the signature is shaped like a Tic Tac in the same area.

• 17:29George Knapp?

  There is no shot, uh, recorded by these guys for what we've seen so far of all four of them on the screen at the same time, though, is there?

• 17:37Jeremy Corbell?

  Um, not in this footage is what I can say. I'm, I'm trying my best to continue the investigation and, and kind of get more footage. There appears that there is other footage and I'm trying to get it. I know it pisses people off. I, I can only get what I, what is given to me. I'm not soliciting or asking for it. Just people, I've heard there's other footage. But what you're seeing at the very beginning is, I believe, at least two of those targets before it punches in. So when it punches in, that's when the bottom target, you see it appear to zip up, but really I think the camera's auto-tracking down. And that's when it's trying to center it.

• 18:15George Knapp?

  Um, what can we say about, um, people who were there at the time, um, without getting anyone into trouble?

• 18:22Jeremy Corbell?

  Well, these are people that have, you know, they're, they're in high responsibility and roles. There's only a handful of people in the Combat Information Center, so it's not, you know, people that are just brand new. I'll just put it that way. Also, I mean, look, this was reported to Admiral Tim Gallaudet. The Admiral Tim Gallaudet's the guy that I first heard that there was an additional witness to USS Omaha, which is true. But then this emerged out of that conversation. So I called him up and I said, so wait, you know, there's more footage, there's something else going on. And that's how this started for me. And he was really gracious about it, wants to move the information forward. But they reported to an admiral what was going on. Interestingly enough, this all started because we were

• 19:05Jeremy Corbell?

  Released the Omaha footage in the 2019 events. I think that gave the individual a sense of purpose and courage and permission to start talking and went to obviously Admiral Gallaudet because he had testified at a hearing. He's a Navy Admiral, kind of like safe space, talk with him. But then, you know, I got connected to this story and that's how you and I come in. Is we tried to dig in and find out what's going on and then we were able to obtain some of the footage.

• 19:32George Knapp?

  Again, thanks to US Navy personnel who are head and shoulders above the other service members. In terms of trying to be transparent on this because they've been told that that's what they're supposed to do. That it's okay, you can come forward. I think even though this footage has now surfaced. They're still really concerned about what could happen if they speak publicly about it, if they follow the instructions. They've been given by their higher ups. They're concerned about possible repercussions, correct?

• 20:02Jeremy Corbell?

  Right. I mean, the thing is you can go through the typical way that people come forward on stuff and you'll see this with us in the future whistleblowers that we've recorded with that are going to come forward with us. They've done everything right, everything right and it gets buried. It gets completely buried. It's never mentioned in the error reports. It's never mentioned the ways it should. They're not testifying under oath like they should as firsthand witnesses. So I think there's a sense of frustration too. Like, of course, there's self-preservation. But at some point, there's a critical mass and there's enough people that are saying, this is bullshit. We need, we've been told this is a matter of national security. We need to come forward with it and if not through traditional means, then maybe through the means of journalism.

• 20:47George Knapp?

  You know, there was an article, I'm not sure if you've seen it yet, that was just out at the time we're recording this. In Scientific American, written by Leonard David, he's a, he most often writes for space.com. He's a good guy, covers the UAP topic and although this piece in Scientific American starts out a little bit snarky. He interviews the new head of Arrow, the current head, Kozloski, who admits that he is open to the possibility that his life from somewhere else is represented in. Various UFO UAP videos and cases. Uh, but we've heard from him before and he's been very candid in the fact that he is handcuffed to some degree. He's wants to inquire. He wants to do a legit investigation, but he's handcuffed

• 21:31George Knapp?

  by higher ups. The reality is there are limits on what he can say, how far he can go. Um, and I, I wonder how this video will be treated by the Arrow Office now that we're making it public.

• 21:44Jeremy Corbell?

  I mean, look, I, I would hope they have it. I, I believe there was testimony given for this. Maybe not the footage. I don't know. I'll, I'll find out about that. But, but look, this is so important. This is data. This is what people are asking for. Th- this is what people want is the, is the footage and to be able to analyze. So look, we're doing our best to give people more of this. And, and a lot of people have taken risk in order to put things like this out. Let me just go over a few of the bullet points again. So when you're watching the footage, people understand, here are the facts. There were four Tic Tac shaped UAPs observed that night. The craft was detected by multiple reconnaissance platforms. So that's including radar and this thermal system that I'm calling

• 22:26Jeremy Corbell?

  Sapphire, because that's the system itself. Um, no flight control surfaces. When you look at the footage, what you see is what you get. This is something that Commander Guts talked about in episode two of Weaponized. You know, you typically see heat plumes, exhaust, all that. None of that. You can see with your own eyes. None of that is there. So if you understand thermal, it should be there even to hover, even if it's just hovering, especially if it's hovering. It should have some way to be sitting up there and you're not seeing it. Uh, craft were self illuminated and we know that because the witness first saw it lift up out of the water. That's what alerted that individual to go to their radar and see what targets they have or what contacts they have. And they were solid, four solid targets.

• 23:08Jeremy Corbell?

  All the craft were observed in an apparent coordinated synchronized instantaneous departure indicative of shared communication. This is really nailed home to me by the service members. These four objects were up there and they all moved at the same time. Just whoosh, gone. And that's documented through our interviews with them.

• 23:29Speaker 00

  The following is a witness interview of the USS Jackson UAP encounter.

• 23:33Speaker 06

  We only see lights because it's at nighttime. It's always at nighttime. But to see the lights emerging from water. So I go out to the bridge wing. I'm noticing things and lights on the horizon and like city lights or any other ships that are out there. So seeing a light that is lifting up, you can see it. I know the difference between a light on the horizon coming up and a light coming out of the water. I just, when you've been on the water more in your life than you haven't been, you know the difference. This thing was coming up. I wasn't shocked that I was seeing it. I was shocked. I was sharing the experience. Us looking at the same exact

• 24:16Speaker 06

  display of Sapphire, but when we start talking about all of the objects, all four objects, and what we witnessed was all four of them, all in synchronous, jetting off into the abyss. All were all timed together and all left. And we were like, holy shit. And they were all, maybe the second they left, maybe three, four seconds pass, I run to my station and I look at my radar and they're all gone. They're all off radar. And I was like, that's it. They all zoomed off. But it's clear that they're in communication with one another and synchronized, like three, two, one countdown, let's all go type thing. Unless there's some level of like, one entity

• 24:58Speaker 06

  is controlling all four and then they all leave at the same time. But yeah, they all left exactly at the same time.

• 25:03Jeremy Corbell?

  And that's on record, recorded, documented. And I hope when that person's out of the military, it's really about not wanting to show their face because of what's happened to David Grush, what's happened to a number of people that came forward. But they're willing to testify, that's on record, and you will be seeing their face in the future.

• 25:21George Knapp?

  We should also say, we have shared this imagery with a couple of people, a very close group of people that we know who do know their stuff. Give me a general sense of what they've told us, how they react.

• 25:34Jeremy Corbell?

  Right, so like all source analysts, the people that work on these systems, we've shown it to a ton of people to try to say, what are we not seeing here and what are we seeing here? And you know, everybody's really, you know, really measured with their responses. But they're like, I don't know if the world's really gonna understand immediately when they see it. But this is a Tic Tac. This is better footage than what we got with the Tic Tac UFO stuff in 2004 when that was filmed. So, look, it doesn't show extreme movement. I mean, I know that footage is out there somewhere and I'd love to get it and obtain it and release it with you. But what it does show is a really interesting new piece that is indicative of what we're seeing with UAP with propulsion and the lack of signatures.

• 26:18Jeremy Corbell?

  So people have looked at it and they're like, yeah, these are not artifacts on the lens. Where the doesn't show traditional propulsion. It's as an analyst, it's fascinating to me that you were able to obtain and release this with George. I mean, they were like stoked and hopefully, you know, people get educated on what the type of footage is so they understand.

• 26:37George Knapp?

  And there were four of them, not just one Tic Tac, four same time. I mean, the Tic Tac shape is still going strong. Maybe that has low mileage on these vehicles. But that shape, they haven't turned changed it for a new model, a new fancier thing with tail fins or anything like that. They're still flying the Tic Tacs. Maybe it's ours, Jeremy. That's the that's a secret program that we've been flying around out there, transmedium stuff since 2004 and maybe longer. What do you think?

• 27:06Jeremy Corbell?

  Oh, man, I would love for that to be true. I mean, even Commander Fraber said, I work in a field where you need to know the next generation technology, not 10, not maybe even 20 years out. And he goes, it was not ours in 2004. It's still not, is not ours. I would love to believe it was ours, but doesn't seem to be the case. I hope it's not a adversarial nations. But look, military footage has elevated this conversation historically on UAP. Think about it, before all these drops that we were able to put out, we were having a different conversation. I really hope this sparks more people to come forward with a safe footage to put out. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's gonna happen. And we'll report on it.

• 27:48Jeremy Corbell?

  And I also hope that this motivates Congress to talk firsthand with the people that are coming forward with journalists because they feel like they've been silenced trying to come forward through Arrow. I hope that this really motivates Congress. They should do their job. And I hope that this helps to motivate.

• 28:06George Knapp?

  Okay, world. Here's a new video to analyze, recorded by the US military. Do your thing.