Maria Shriver: Life-Changing Lessons on Letting Go of Your Past & Creating Your Best Future Now!

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• 0:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  Coming up in this incredible part two episode with Maria Shriver. On the topic of big, I do want to bring up one big thing that has exploded, which is White Lotus. How was that, seeing your son play such an interesting and dynamic role?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  It makes me almost tear up now, thinking about his moment. He's worked so hard. I just felt this unbelievable joy for him, unbelievable, just happiness for him that he was having this moment. How many people were like, whoa, Patrick Schwarzenegger is actually a really good actor? Which means that they thought going in, he wasn't. And it means that they evolved with him and that his work made them change their mind. And that's really hard to do.

• 0:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  With seeing some of the storylines, seeing him naked on camera, like all the things.

• 1:00Speaker 01

  People are like, oh, my God, you saw. I'm like, I give birth to him. Not such a, you know.

• 1:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  I've seen him naked.

• 1:06Speaker 01

  I've seen him naked since he was a baby.

• 1:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  There's a poem in "I Am Maria" called "The Child Within" that I cried my eyes out reading.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  We all need to find our way home, regardless of gender, regardless of age. We're all in a way in the fight of our lives. We're all in a way trying to figure out why we're here. What is our life about? What difference does it make that we are here? Will anybody see us? Will anybody notice us? Does anything we do matter? Feeling like you're in your own journey, that you're on your own path, that you're doing what you were put here to do is a beautiful, calming feeling. And when you feel that, you will walk, I think, differently in the world.

• 1:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  The wild in me. You say, "Don't let the merry medals believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself warned. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained." I was like, "Wait a minute."

• 2:13Speaker 01

  The truth is, I think it's a beautiful time to be a woman, as I say to my daughters. And I think you can be tender and strong.

• 2:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  You can be smart and sexy.

• 2:26Jamie Kern Lima?

  When you said, "Don't let the merry medals believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself warned. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained." I started giggling because I thought, if that was on the dating app, it would go crazy. If that was like your profile.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  So I'm just gonna ask you, because I ask this of everybody. Are you dating anybody?

• 2:47Speaker 01

  I'm open. I'm open to whatever God sends my way. But I've... My kids have kidded around going, "We should make you a dating app." I'm like, "Absolutely not." I mean, what do you call it? A dating profile. But now that I have a line, I could put on there, maybe.

• 3:05Jamie Kern Lima?

  That's a good one.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  I used to think that love came only in an intimate, romantic package.

• 3:12Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 3:12Speaker 01

  And it made me miss out. And so I'm really focused on expanding my notion of love, expanding the amount of people that are in my open field, so to speak, that bring me love. And so whomever I end up with, if I do end up with someone that way, they're gonna be a village. They're gonna be in a village.

• 3:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  They're gonna be so blessed.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  I wanted to write a book without, you know, any grievances about a journey home to myself, which I think is the journey we're all on.

• 3:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  How do we come home to ourselves? What does that even mean to us? So it's a book of poems and reflections. It's a book of wisdom and insecurity. It's a book of love and loss and longing and finding our way home. It's a book about life.

• 4:06Jamie Kern Lima?

  Moving humanity forward is her ministry. Maria Shriver is an Emmy Award winning, Gracie Award winning, Peabody Award winning, Lifetime Achievement, Alzheimer's Association Award winning journalist, author, and member of the legendary and iconic Shriver and Kennedy families. She's the author of the brand new number one New York Times bestselling book, I Am Maria. Filled with the most beautiful poetry, it's out now. Make sure to grab your copy. She's the founder of The Sunday Paper. You can get her incredible content at maria shriver sundaypaper.com. We'll link to it in the show notes.

• 4:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  She's also the former First Lady of California and the founder of the Women's Alzheimer's Movement. She was married to former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger and is the daughter of Sergeant Shriver, who founded the Peace Corps, and Eunice Kennedy Shriver, who founded the Special Olympics. She's also the niece of the late President John F. Kennedy. She's a mom of four amazing children, Katherine Patrick, Christina and Christopher. And she's a grandma. And yet, just like you and me, she's separate and independent of all of those jobs and roles and labels. She is, most powerfully, Maria. And that is more than enough.

• 5:30Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I want to ask you right now, when you think of all of the roles that you're known for and play in your own life, whether it's mom, or friend, or wife, or sister, daughter, boss, and you strip those away, you're left with who you innately are. And do you believe right now, in this very moment, that who you are innately is fully enough? Today, we are talking about how to know it and believe it in your life right now. And whether today you're listening for yourself or because someone you love shared this episode with you, I want to welcome you to the Jamie Kern Lima Show Podcast

• 6:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  Family. Thank you so much for being here. And can you take two seconds and do me a quick favor? Hit the subscribe or follow button on the app that you're listening or watching on. Thank you so much. It truly means so much to me. You can also get inspiration in your inbox from me for free. You can join my newsletter community at JamieKernLima.com. Also, this incredible podcast episode today, it's not just for you and me. Please share this with every single person that you know who might need some inspiration today, or perhaps a boost in their self-belief. Because what you're about to hear can truly impact mine, yours, and their life too.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 6:57Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 7:11Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 7:14Speaker 04

  When I look into Jamie's eyes, I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her.

• 7:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  I could see the light around her. She's infused with light. Imagine overcoming self-doubt, learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

• 7:35Speaker 03

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• 7:39Speaker 04

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• 7:44Jamie Kern Lima?

  Jamie, you're so inspiring. Jamie Kern Lima. I do want to bring up one big thing that has exploded, which is White Lotus. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, so I saw the video. I saw the video online that once you guys were able to share it where Patrick had let you know he had been cast in it. Everyone's crying at the table and it was so fun. And I am so curious. So I watched it. I watched it. And how, holy moly. Okay. All right. How does it feel?

• 8:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  How does it feel as a mom? Because you've been around actors forever. This is not new. This is not your first rodeo. And also, how was that?

• 8:36Jamie Kern Lima?

  Seeing your son play such an interesting and dynamic role?

• 8:42Speaker 01

  Well, it was, first of all, I didn't know that his fiance was videotaping that at all. But it was very, it makes me almost tear up now thinking about his moment. He's worked so hard. You know, he goes to acting lessons every single week. He goes out for so many roles, you know, that you don't get.

• 9:06Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Right? And then for him, I knew he had tried out for this role, but I hadn't heard anything, so I assumed he didn't get it. And so when I saw him whispering to his fiance at the table, he had just gotten engaged two weeks before. So when I saw him whispering, I'm like, what are you whispering about? You know, I don't like whispering at the table. And he's like, no, nothing, nothing. I'm like, uh-oh. You know, I thought, uh-oh, they're pregnant. Or, uh-oh, something happened. Or, uh-oh. And then he's like, well, I can't, I don't want to say anything. I can't say anything. I go, Patrick, you've got to say something. You can't just say now, I can't say anything. And when he told me, I just felt this unbelievable joy for him.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  Unbelievable, just happiness for him that he was having this moment. And then to watch him, he went to Thailand for eight months. And to see him work so hard and then to watch the arc of that character from everybody going, you know, like, what a jerk, to like, oh, my heart breaks for him. And I said to him in the last episode, when I, his, just his facial expression, you know, when the... Amy Lou Wood character walked away and left him. And you could see his face and you could see that his heart broke. That he had not been seen, that he had not been chosen, that he had not been valued. It was a heartbreaking moment.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  And he did it so well. And he acted this kind of range. And I was so proud for him. I said this to him actually yesterday. How many people were like, whoa, Patrick Schwarzenegger is actually a really good actor.

• 10:48Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  Which means that they thought going in, he wasn't. And it means that they evolved with him. And that his work made them change their mind. And that's really hard to do. And that's a really triumphant thing for him to have been able to do. And he's worked so hard and I think he's handled himself. Having a moment like that is challenging. You know, there's a lot coming at you and you can either crack with it, be a jerk with it, or ride it in an elegant, grateful manner. And I think he's, he has ridden it in an elegant, grateful manner. He's very grateful to his acting teacher, to Mike White, to the people who've acted with him

• 11:34Speaker 01

  all along the way. And I think his siblings really supported him in a very loving way, but also like, don't get your head up on this, you know, don't get too high on this, you know, in a fun way. And his friends, he has an incredible group of friends who've been with him since kindergarten, preschool. And he's, he's really blessed. And I think, you know, he, he took this moment and he did well with it. And I'm really proud of him. And to, to watch him ride it in such a beautiful, humble, confident way.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  And then to, he's going to be married in a few months and.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  You know, it's a beautiful thing to watch. Yeah.

• 12:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  With seeing some of the storylines, seeing him naked on camera, like all the things.

• 12:32Speaker 01

  People are like, oh, my God, you saw, I'm like, I give birth to him. It's like, not such a, you know.

• 12:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  I've seen him naked all.

• 12:38Speaker 01

  I've seen him naked since he was a baby. But, you know, I'm just looking at him and his craft, really. I'm watching him grow because I've watched him. You know, I think people, when they see somebody in a show like that, they don't realize how much leads up to that moment. You know, they don't realize how hard he's worked or how many roles he hasn't gotten.

• 13:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  Right.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  You know, and then when they get a role and then they do it well and then they ride the moment, it's almost like the universe has to come together for them. And so to watch that in anyone's life.

• 13:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  And I didn't realize he's there eight months in Thailand.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:19Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Eight months in Thailand.

• 13:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  Amazing.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  And so Mike White, obviously, is the writer, the creator, the director, the producer. And he's obviously incredibly talented.

• 13:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  Young man.

• 13:32Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. Well, you know, there's a poem in I Am Maria called "The Child Within" that I cried my eyes out reading. And for anybody who is, who almost like needs to connect with the little girl inside of them.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:49Jamie Kern Lima?

  Who's doing maybe healing, on a healing journey, learning to go, who am I?

• 13:55Speaker 01

  Or the little boy, right?

• 13:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  Or the little boy.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  Or the little person, right?

• 13:58Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yes.

• 13:59Speaker 01

  That's the thing that I've loved actually about going around the country is how many men have come to these conversations? Because I think we so often, I think women are better in a way at prioritizing their healing, their emotions, they're more curious so often. And I don't think we have given space to men to really have that opening, to allow for those conversations, to allow for their heartbreak, to allow space for their healing. We all. Need to find our way home regardless of gender, regardless of age. We're all in a way in the fight of our lives.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  We're all in a way trying to figure out why we're here. What is our life about? What difference does it make that we are here? Will anybody see us? Will anybody notice us? Does anything we do matter? And I understand that journey. I understand those questions. And I'm walking alongside you if you're having those questions because those are the questions I had too. And I think that. Do you feel like you have answers to those? Well, for me. Yeah. But I think everybody has different answers, right? And everybody asks those, I think, at different times in their lives.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  I think I meet a lot of young people today who wonder, will the world even be here when they get to my age? Does anything matter? Yes. Now. AI. Yeah. Does anything matter? Will they? Does their humanity matter? You speak about AI. Is it worth bringing a child into the world today? Yeah. Is there such a thing as marriage? Is it worthwhile? Does love last? All of these questions that are now coming up, I think, at all ages. And so I hope this book will be shared across generations. I hope people will begin to think about these questions

• 16:12Speaker 01

  way before life smacks them down and they find themselves on a hotel room floor. And that they really do come to a place where they realize that they do matter, that their life is important, that they are here for a reason, that they are meant to live out their path, not my path or your path, but their distinct path. And that it doesn't have to be what their parents or their siblings. Their walk doesn't have to be that walk. But I think kind of feeling like you're in your. Own journey, that you're on your own path, that you're doing what you were put here to do is a beautiful, calming feeling.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  And when you feel that, you will walk, I think, differently in the world. And you will be able to, most importantly, hear people who tell you to do this, this, and that and go, "I'm good. I'm walking where I need to be walking."

• 17:14Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah. You talk in the book about your own healing journey, about different modalities and about even getting permission to be who you are, which I'm going to ask you about in a second. But one of the things I love so much about this book, so many of us, not that we hide parts of us,

• 17:34Speaker 01

  Oh, sure.

• 17:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  But we don't like express them. I, Maria, in this book, you share so many different things, so vulnerably, so openly. I know I saw the interview with you and Oprah where she just like said she cried reading this, that you had shared so much, because she already knows, but you guys are best friends.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:51Jamie Kern Lima?

  For you to share, there's so much you share. And why I'm so excited, one of the many reasons I'm so excited about I Am Maria is because I feel like people read, I'm imagining the person reading it, man or a woman, who's going to read it and somehow have permission to just open up and just like with themselves and tap into parts themselves. I want to call out one, one of the poems in there called "The Wild in Me", Miss Maria Shriver. Okay. "The Wild in Me", you say, "Don't let the merry medals believe I'm more virgin than Magdalen. Consider yourself warned, there's a wildness in me that can't be contained." I was like, wait a minute. So, okay.

• 18:35Jamie Kern Lima?

  One of my many favorites in there, because I feel like we're just, every one of us has that in us, and I feel like...

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Well, I think, you know, look, the, the truth is, I think it's a beautiful time to be a woman, as I say to my daughters. And I think you can be tender and strong.

• 18:53Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  You can be smart and sexy. When I was coming up in journalism, you had to have big... Shoulder pads, be buttoned up, be serious, be tough and be like little men, right? Because you weren't allowed to be all of who you are.

• 19:08Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  And I think today you can be a loving, nurturing, nourishing mom. And if you're going to go and advocate at Capitol Hill, you've got to be strong. You've got to be, you know, wild in a way. You've got to be incredibly confident. And I think we now live in a time where it's, you're OK holding all of these different parts of yourself. The great security and insecurity, your tenderness and your toughness, your smartness and your sexiness, your sexuality and your sensuality. And I think that's what it means to be a fully evolved woman for me. Or I say to, you know, my sons, you can be strong and gentle.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  You also can hold these different paradoxes.

• 19:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  And so I, you know, I can be very kind of tender. And but when I'm going to go and speak on behalf of Women's Health and Research, or I'm going to go speak on behalf of Alzheimer's or caregivers,

• 20:11Speaker 01

  I'm going to put on a different suit.

• 20:13Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  And I'm going to walk a different way because I have a job to do.

• 20:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  And it's a different job than when I'm putting on a diaper.

• 20:20Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 20:21Speaker 01

  You know?

• 20:22Jamie Kern Lima?

  Well, I read the, I love reading the physical book while also listening to the audiobook.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Oh, that's interesting.

• 20:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  I was doing both. I love it because I feel like it takes root in me more. And when you read-

• 20:31Speaker 01

  My son is saying that he's listening to it on audio.

• 20:35Jamie Kern Lima?

  On audio? I love it because you read it. I love it. When you said that line, consider yourself, or wait, when you said, "Don't let the merry medals believe I'm more virgin than Magdalene. Consider yourself worn. There's a wildness in me that can't be contained." I started, I started giggling because I thought, if that was on the dating app, it would go crazy. If that was like your profile.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 20:57Jamie Kern Lima?

  So I'm just going to ask you because I ask this of everybody. Are you dating anybody? We need to pause for a super brief break. And while we do, take a moment to share this episode with every single person that you know, who this could inspire. Because this conversation can truly be the words and inspiration they need to hear today to keep going, to remember that they matter, and to feel less alone and more enough, more connected and more worthy.

• 21:27Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 22:11Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 22:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  It's time to find out with Worthy. Who you spend time around is so important as energy is contagious, and so is self-belief. And I'd love to hang out with you even more, especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration, which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you, delivered straight to your inbox each and every Tuesday morning from me. If you haven't signed up to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiekernlima.com to make sure you're on the list, and you'll get your One-on-One with Jamie weekly newsletter and get ready to believe in you.

• 23:38Jamie Kern Lima?

  If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration, some tips, tools, joy, and love hitting your inbox, I'm your girl. Subscribe at jamiekernlima.com or in the link in the show notes. Do you struggle with negative self-talk? Living with a constant mental narrative that you're not good enough is exhausting. I know because I spent most of my life in that habit. The words you say to yourself about yourself are so powerful. And when you learn to take control over your self-talk, it's life-changing.

• 24:20Jamie Kern Lima?

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• 25:04Jamie Kern Lima?

  yourself to persevere on the path to your dreams, you can grab your free guide to Stop Overthinking and Learn to Trust Yourself at jamiekernlima.com/resources or click the link in the show notes below. And now, more of this incredible conversation together. So I'm just gonna ask you, because I ask this of everybody. Are you dating anybody?

• 25:28Speaker 01

  I don't know. I've never been on a dating app in my life. I was actually, I was with Annie Lamott in San Francisco on my tour, and her husband Neil, and they were saying that they met on a dating app. And so I was, I'm always, I'm a frustrated matchmaker myself, and I'm a big believer in relationships and love. And I've just kind of gotten to the place now where I'm thinking, oh. You know, I don't know, maybe, but my life is really full. Yeah. I'm, uh, I'm not looking. Yeah. Uh, but I'm open. I'm open to whatever God sends my way.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Uh, but I, I've, uh, my kids have kidded around going, we should make you a dating app. I'm like, absolutely not. Uh, I mean, a date, what do you call it? A dating profile. But now that I have a line I could put on there, maybe. That's a good one. No, no, no. No, I'm, um, I'm good. I'm finally good on my own. And, uh, that's taken a tremendous amount. Yeah. And I have a lot of, um, I have a beautiful life that I'm deeply grateful for. Yeah. And it feels really good and really full and full of love. I, I used to think that love came only in an intimate, romantic, um, package. Yeah.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  And it made me miss out on all the love that was being offered to me through my friends and through other people. And I've now realized that there's so many different ways to access the love that is there for us, the love that exists for us, because we're so focused on, quote, dating, right? Or your marriage partner. And that nobody can give you everything you're looking for. Yeah. And so I'm really focused on expanding my notion of love, uh, expanding the amount of people that are in my open field, so to speak, that bring me love.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  And so whomever I end up with, if I do end up with someone that way, they, they're gonna be a village, they're gonna be in a village. Hmm. They're gonna be so blessed, so blessed and so lucky. You know, what's been interesting as I've gone out. Into, you know, whatever, the tour, out into different states and different cities. Universally, people are experiencing their own lives. Yes. People are talking about, how do they reinvent themselves after the loss of a spouse or after a divorce? How do people, the questions that come from the crowds are,

• 28:15Speaker 01

  I just lost my job, or I just retired, or my company downsized, or my husband died, or I'm estranged from my kid, or I don't share, you know, my husband's political opinions and it's causing a lot of trouble. Big one, yeah. Or I'm struggling with a child with mental health. People come up to me all the time about, my mother was just diagnosed with Alzheimer's. Can you find me a neurologist? Where's the best home that I can put my dad or mom in? Is there a clinical trial that I can put my parent in? Where do I get a diagnosis? You know, where do I get a caregiver? I have, you know, I can't find a doctor who will help me with perimenopause.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  Can you direct me to a women's health doctor? Can you help me with a daughter who has PCOS? And so I know that that's what people are experiencing. Or I too have heartbreak. I too have gone to therapy. I too have tried plant medicine. I too have been to a psychic. I too, you know, have a deep faith. Or I've left, lost my faith. Or I've dropped out of the church. Or I'm trying to find my way back to the church. Do you know a good church? Which tells me that that's, you know, people want to live meaningful lives. I talk a lot about what is a meaningful life. I talk a lot about what is a brain healthy life. But, you know, I think at the end of the day,

• 29:42Speaker 01

  what is a meaningful life and how do I live it? And I think that's what people are trying to do. Yeah. They're trying to find love. They're trying to keep love. Yes. They're trying to be a good parent. They're trying to put food on the table. They're trying to be good sons and daughters in their 50s. Yeah. You know, they're trying to take care of their parents, which is really hard and really expensive. So that's what people talk- While also being parents, like in between all of it. Yeah, so that's what people come up to talk to me about. Yeah. You know? And all of those questions-

• 30:20Speaker 01

  They're heartbreaking. They're all heartbreaking and they also have healing potential.

• 30:26Jamie Kern Lima?

  I think to your point earlier, so many people at all ages are also just starting to talk about healing, just starting to talk about their own healing journey. And Iya Maria, you share so candidly about so many, I want everyone to pick it up and read it, so I'm not going to give away.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  And I don't want people to be scared, you know, so many people said to me, oh my gosh, I'm scared of poetry. I'm scared, you know, it's not the poetry that you might have learned in college that you're like, what does that mean? This is, my daughter calls it reporter poetry, but it's, you know, you'll be able to read it without a doubt of understanding it. And you can do it too. And I'm a big believer that we could all write our way forward. And I think I'm also a big believer that in order to move yourself forward, you have to understand what happened in your life and who shaped you. Not with, as somebody gave me the greatest compliment, they said, this is a book about grief without any grievances.

• 31:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  Oh, that's beautiful.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Which is, I thought to myself, I said, wow, I'm going to use that line because I could never have come up with it myself. But I wanted to write a book without, you know, any grievances about a journey home to myself, which I think is the journey we're all on. How do we come home to ourselves? What does that even mean to us? So it's a book of poems and reflections. It's a book of wisdom and insecurity. It's a book of love and loss and longing and finding our way home. It's a book about life.

• 32:00Jamie Kern Lima?

  And how to find your own way home.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:03Jamie Kern Lima?

  Okay, two final questions and we'll wrap. You mentioned in the book, you talk about, about your journey of healing. And there's a whole section in the beginning of the book before the poetry starts and in there you share, and I think this is one of the things Oprah said, she was shocked that you shared. About about going to to all different types of modalities of healing.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  Shaman to plant medicine journey to crystals, to a convent, to all of it.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:29Jamie Kern Lima?

  And what I'm curious about is of all the things you tried, which ones do you feel worked?

• 32:36Speaker 01

  I think they all worked.

• 32:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  You think they all worked?

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Yes, I think they all worked at different times.

• 32:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  And I think I've always been incredibly curious, which is why journalism was so great for me.

• 32:47Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  I've always been interested, what is out there that can help me? Who is out there that can help me? Who can I learn from?

• 32:54Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  I'm always looking to who can I learn from? Who's living life in a way that I want to emulate? So I look at nuns and they're doing things that I think, wow, I want to I want to emulate some of what they're doing out in the streets, in the work of social justice, helping other people, also living in community. I think, wow, that's and being very calm and prayerful and meditative and contemplative. Richard Rohr, I look at him, contemplative's inaction. I'm like, I want to learn from that. Jack Kornfield, Trudy Goodman, Annie Lamott, writers, Mary Oliver, poets. There's so many people to learn from, which is why books are so powerful.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  Because people put their journeys down with the hope of helping you in yours, with the hope of helping you find your way home. And so Pema Chodron helped me, Anne-Marie Lindberg helped me, Mary Oliver helped me. My friends helped me, nun Mother Dolores helped me, Sister Joan Chittister helped me. All of these people helped me and continue and continue to help me. And.

• 34:11Jamie Kern Lima?

  That's so beautiful. And I think, you know, for every person listening or watching, I just want to call that out. I've always loved the idea that success leaves clues and that and about being a lifelong student.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 34:21Jamie Kern Lima?

  And just the gift, right?

• 34:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 34:23Jamie Kern Lima?

  The gift of of of of all of that. And for everyone watching or listening who's like. Wow, like, okay, she has all these titles and awards, you know, Peabody Award, Emmy Award,

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:35Jamie Kern Lima?

  Lifetime Achievement Award for the Alzheimer's Association, so many awards, Gracie Award, all of it, all of the titles and what your mom did and your dad did and your family and just all of it. And you're to the place where you're like, I am Maria? That is enough. And so for the person listening who wants to fill in their name, and I love when you say on the Sunday paper and in so many places, I am Maria, who are you? Like, nice to meet you. And so for the person who's listening and watching us right now and who's like, huh, actually, I kind of want to, yes, cherish all the things in my life, but also go, well, wait a minute, who am I? And how do I,

• 35:18Jamie Kern Lima?

  whether it's start on my own journey to believing I'm enough? Or how do I just truly embrace that who I am is enough? What do you say to them?

• 35:28Speaker 01

  Well, I think just try it. Just start by saying, I am Jamie. Pause, full stop, stop right there. You know, I am Maria. And just try that on even in front of the mirror, just saying just that, introducing yourself just that way. And then holding, holding right there with it.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  And you don't have to fill it in in any way.

• 35:56Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah.

• 35:57Speaker 01

  And I think that people, when you start filling in, like, I never fill in with I'm this, that, or the other. I'm, you know, a woman. I'm a woman in evolution. I'm curious, right? I'm loving, I'm kind, I'm open, I'm a friend, right? I'm loved and I'm loved. I'm, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm strong, I'm weak, I'm tough, I'm tender. I'm all of these things. Who are you? And I think that, you know, just holding.

• 36:27Jamie Kern Lima?

  I have chills, I have chills with you saying that.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 36:31Jamie Kern Lima?

  Yeah, and even the pause of that, too.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:34Jamie Kern Lima?

  Saying, I am Jamie.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Full stop.

• 36:41Jamie Kern Lima?

  Maria Shriver, I love you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much. I want, God bless you. I want, and I want to say this, thank you for your friendship. Thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your championship of things that matter so much. Thank you for being a living, breathing example to all of us of just how we can embrace who we are and also put our faith and our love and our calling and our action and our anointing in motion. Thank you for all of that. Amen. Amen. Remember, this episode's not just for you and me. Please share this with every single person that you know, because it can impact and change their life too. And if

• 37:24Jamie Kern Lima?

  you loved today's episode, please click on the follow or subscribe button for the show on the app you're listening to it on or watching it on. And if it added value to your life, if you could please give it a rating or review, I'd be so grateful. And again, share it with everyone who you believe in. Share it with another person in your life who could benefit from it. Maybe someone you know is making a change in their career, in their marriage, or in their health, or just needs to say who they are is enough. Please post this episode and share it with others online or in your community who just might need the words and tools and lessons in this episode today. You never know whose life you're meant to change today by sharing this episode. And thank you so much for joining me today.

• 38:09Jamie Kern Lima?

  And before you go, I want to share some words with you that couldn't be more true. You, right now, exactly as you are, are enough and fully worthy. You're worthy of your greatest hopes, your wildest dreams, and all the unconditional love in the world. And it is an honor to welcome you to each and every episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show. Here, I hope you'll come as you are, heal where you need, blossom what you choose, journey toward your calling, and stay as long as you'd like, because you belong here. You are worthy, you are loved, you are love. I love you. And I cannot wait to join you

• 38:52Jamie Kern Lima?

  on the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show. In life, you don't soar to the level of your hopes and dreams. You stay stuck at the level of your self-worth. When you build your self-worth, you change your entire life. And that's exactly why I wrote my new book, Worthy: How to Believe You Are Enough and Transform Your Life for You. If you have some self-doubt to destroy and a destiny to fulfill, Worthy is for you. In Worthy, you'll learn proven tools and simple steps that bring life-changing results, like how to get unstuck from the things holding you back, build unshakable self-love,

• 39:37Jamie Kern Lima?

  unlearn the lies that lead to self-doubt, and embrace the truths that wake up worthiness, overcome limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome, achieve your hopes and dreams by believing you are worthy of them, and so much more. Are you ready to unleash your greatness and step into the person you were born to be? Imagine a life with zero self-doubt and unshakable self-worth. Get your copy of Worthy, plus some amazing thank you bonus gifts for you at worthybook.com or the link in the show notes below.

• 40:17Jamie Kern Lima?

  Imagine what you'd do if you fully believed in you. It's time to find out with Worthy. Who you spend time around is so important as energy is contagious, and so is self-belief. And I'd love to hang out with you even more, especially if you could use an extra dose of inspiration, which is exactly why I've created my free weekly newsletter that's also a love letter to you, delivered straight to your inbox from me. If you haven't signed up to make sure that you get it each week, just go to jamiecurranlema.com to make sure you're on the list, and you'll get your One-on-One with Jamie weekly newsletter

• 41:01Jamie Kern Lima?

  and get ready to believe in you. If you're tired of hearing the bad news every single day and need some inspiration, some tips, tools, joy, and love hitting your inbox, I'm your girl. Subscribe at jamiecurranlema.com or in the link in the show notes. It's such an honor to share this podcast together with you. And please note, I'm not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional.