#395: Comedian Rachel Feinstein on COVID-19 and 2020

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• 0:00Anthony Pompliano?

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• 2:51Anthony Pompliano?

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• 3:00Speaker 01

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• 3:25Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, guys. Bang, bang. Rachel is back for round two. What's going on? How are you?

• 3:31Speaker 02

  Hey, thank you for having me.

• 3:33Anthony Pompliano?

  Absolutely. I feel like you have a crazy, crazy life to begin with. And now you've got Corona, you have a new baby, you have a husband who is a firefighter, who I'm sure is doing all kinds of awesome, cool, crazy things. What has been going on in your life over the last couple of months?

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Like a really cool time to have a baby with the first responder in Brooklyn, like around May. I was just like, really feeling that. Uh, yeah, it was crazy. But I will say there's a few benefits to a COVID birth. Even though there are no commercials for COVID births, there are a few benefits, like no fear of missing out. No one wanted guests. All you have to say is sorry, we're trying not to kill her. So there were a couple perks, but it was strange. It was definitely strange to be married to a firefighter during that time. I mean, I get a kick out of being married to a fireman. Usually it's just something I can like whore out at airports and try to get upgrades with, you know? But it definitely got a little bit real around Corona. That's what I'm like, oh, this isn't as fun loving a time as it was before.

• 4:38Anthony Pompliano?

  What exactly was going on? So let's talk, let's talk about the baby first.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 4:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Obviously, we're pregnant before Corona happened. Then you have a child during this whole thing. Were you nervous? Were you scared? Were you excited? Cause then you didn't have to deal with people. Like, what were you feeling going through?

• 4:54Speaker 02

  I mean, I was definitely scared. I was, I'm not one of those women that is pumped up about pregnancy to begin with. So uh, that was a little tough. Um, I mean, I, first of all, I hadn't told people in the beginning because I had recently sold this pilot to Fox based on my life and being married to an empty in my firefighter and, and uh, just kind of my life with my Jewish liberal aggressively liberal parents that would have preferred me marrying like a Nigerian lesbian or something. And uh, and now my new life of like Staten Island dinner dances and everyone's name is like Gina. And uh, so I sold a pilot about that and I was really excited. Um, then I got pregnant and I was like, wait, this, it's gonna shoot

• 5:38Speaker 02

  in March when I'll be like an actual whale. Like I won't be able to hold any laundry basket that can cover it. Um, and my character wouldn't hold laundry baskets anyway. Uh, my character, which is me. But um, so I was kind of like, fuck, fuck. That's not good timing. And then I was just covering it. I was just dressing like Bea Arthur, a lot of oversized Paula Poundstone blazers. Um, and then COVID happened and I was like, oh, it was never gonna even shoot in March anyway. So it was a set of uh, problems I never expected to have, you know, because he's, I guess my worst fear being, when I was being pregnant was that I would kind of like be isolated and dependent. And then I was, but for completely different reasons.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  So, um, you know, she's healthy and as a mother, I start all my sentences that way. By the way, now I just go as a mother. And then I just pass out drunk after that. But uh, so I'm just, I'm grateful for that, but no, I was not into it. All my friends wanted me to like have a home birth. I was like, fuck that. I want. Like that, like this lady was like, what are the words that you want surrounding your birth? Like, and I was like, I don't know, like, I don't have a vision. I just want like doctors and I don't know, sterile. I guess that would be a good word around my birth vanity drugs. I just wanted to be crunching on drugs and a sterile hospital environment. And it was hard to find that in

• 7:06Speaker 02

  COVID in New York. So we moved up to um, to a hospital up to Westchester. And it was, yeah, it was weird. I had gestational diabetes. So I had to like prick myself five times a day because the hospital couldn't do any, I mean, I had to do all virtual appointments. They couldn't do any like diabetic in-person checks for a few months. We couldn't do a sonogram. So there was like a lot of crazy stuff. Uh, but then she turned out pretty good.

• 7:33Anthony Pompliano?

  I, I feel like going through this is, uh, it kind of removes a lot of the bullshit of like the kind of, uh, I'll call it like medical theater. Like I feel like there's a lot of just people trying to make people feel good and happy and, and safe during a lot of this. But like the actual process, uh, I've got a friend right now that's pregnant and, uh, for the longest time, like she would go to the doctor, but like, um, her significant other couldn't go with her. Right. And so like, there's all these things where like, it's kind of weird where you don't have like the emotional support, but at the same time, like, I don't know, 50 different visits gets cut down to like the 20 essential ones. Yeah. So it's like, kind of this like really weird, like, is that a positive or is that a negative? I'm not really sure, but it seems to have worked out.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  There are odd benefits to it for sure. And, and the time where you'd be at home nesting, we were doing that, you know, anyway, and, and not feeling like we're missing out on everything. So there were some weird, um, benefits for sure. And it was just like in the beginning, remember in March, when like, first of all, when I found out I was in Florida on the road. So everybody at home was pissed that I was in Florida and everybody in Florida was pissed because I canceled my shows halfway through the weekend. And then you feel terrible as a comic ever doing that because you're letting the staff down. And if I wasn't pregnant, I would have just kept performing, but. Um, I was like, it'd be really awkward if I, you know, killed my baby at like Captain Brian's

• 9:00Speaker 02

  in Florida comedy club. It would just be a really, it wouldn't be a good look, you know?

• 9:05Anthony Pompliano?

  But Flor- but Florida was open. They, they were chilling. They would have let you keep.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  They were, oh yeah, it was bustling. I mean, the shows were full. I don't know if, and it wasn't even because of me. They were just, yeah, they, that was around the time where you couldn't get a loaf of bread or like toilet paper in Brooklyn. But, uh, Florida, I would just like mention to the lady at the hotel we were staying at and she would just like blink at me like, what? Just this weird lobotomized blink. Like what, Caroni? Everything's fine.

• 9:33Anthony Pompliano?

  So I, uh, uh, in maybe July, I went to Florida to see somebody. Uh, it was an important thing, right? And when I went, uh, I felt like there was, uh, two very different worlds. Like literally New York, everyone's walking around with the masks, like, you know, very serious. Uh, this is, but like now there's toilet paper at the grocery store. Like, so things are kind of like getting a little normal, but still very serious. In Florida, they're, they were chilling. Like, I don't know if there was ever a period where they weren't chilling, but they were just hanging out. There was no problem whatsoever. And like looking at people, if you wore a mask, you were weird.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  Yes, for sure. Definitely. And so I had, I was walking around in that, in March, when it was like, remember when Tom, we found out Tom Hanks had it? And like a couple of guys from the Golden State Warriors and everybody was like, oh, then we can get it too, since we have so much in common. It was very strange. Remember how that made it real for everyone? They're like, Tom Hanks, I'm next, obviously.

• 10:29Speaker 02

  Since we have all the same friends, but that was strange. And that was, and then I had my mother on the phone, like, you know, just yelling at me like, how can you do this with COVID-19? And I'm like, nobody says the 19 anymore. My mom is still saying the 19. Um, and I'm like.

• 10:46Anthony Pompliano?

  Where does she live again?

• 10:47Speaker 02

  My mom lives in Maryland and yeah, I mean, she didn't even need the baby until like four months. They were just, they had bags over their heads for like four months. They were like, and yeah, I have the plastic bag. So.

• 11:00Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So all this is going on.

• 11:03Anthony Pompliano?

  You eventually have the child. Meanwhile, we go through COVID, which I have no clue what firemen were doing during COVID, but I would want to be a fireman or a police officer during any of that. And then we get the protests and then we get like riots, I guess. I don't know. There was like some protests, some riots, sometimes they were mixed, sometimes they weren't.

• 11:22Speaker 02

  It's funny. My, my family called them protests and his family called them riots. It was amazing. My mom was like, are you going to join any of the protests? And his family, watch out for the riots.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  Funny. Yeah. They are. Thank God there was no, um, to fund the fire department. That would have been awkward, but, um.

• 11:41Anthony Pompliano?

  I, I feel, I feel like, uh, firemen are kind of safe. Like no one ever like goes at the fire department because they realize like when the fire starts, you want somebody to show up to put it out.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, there's definitely like, there's definitely moments when like, if I'm having an argument with him on the street, when he's in his uniform, uh, that I wouldn't mind walking by a protest of people, you know, against him. But, um, there's got to be some cop who's like, his wife is just like, yeah, yell at him for me today. Thank you. You know, but no, everybody gets around. I mean, everybody likes firemen. And what's not to like about, I mean, you know, the scene could be what it is, but they tend to be pretty hot. I like being a fire or badge bank. That's what I prefer to call.

• 12:24Anthony Pompliano?

  Wait, what do they call?

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Fire wife is one of the terms I tried to get started, but it couldn't really get much traction.

• 12:30Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  So now I just identify as a badge banker.

• 12:37Anthony Pompliano?

  So what was he doing this entire time?

• 12:39Speaker 02

  Well, okay. So he was, uh, I realized how, as I watch you try to keep up with what I'm saying, I realize I am quite manic. Um.

• 12:48Anthony Pompliano?

  Well, if it makes you feel any better, I feel like we're talking about a person who, uh, like kind of exists, kind of doesn't. Because every time, the last time you came on and this time, we don't say his name. We don't say what he does. We just say fireman. And then you, you just rattle off a bunch of funny stories.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  Well, make him pass by at some point. He saw you on CNN or something. So he was very impressed. I think it was CNN. You were on CNN, right?

• 13:12Anthony Pompliano?

  Good. I tricked him. Yes.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Speaking of finance in a bear, in an impressive looking suit.

• 13:17Anthony Pompliano?

  That suit was from Kohl's. Let's not call it, let's not call it expensive or impressive.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  So yeah, so he totally knows who you are and you're on all his crypto apps. So I'll make him come through.

• 13:31Anthony Pompliano?

  If anyone didn't listen to the first episode, Rachel's husband is a fire chief, if I remember correctly.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  He's a, he's a fire captain, but he just passed his chief test. So he will be a chief.

• 13:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Okay. And he is a secret Bitcoiner or is he an outed Bitcoiner?

• 13:49Speaker 02

  He's outed.

• 13:50Anthony Pompliano?

  Outed. And my favorite part of the last episode was Rachel told a story where other people from the fire department come over and they just yell things either about the government, Bitcoin, or lock her up.

• 14:03Anthony Pompliano?

  I said, that sounds about like every Bitcoiner on Twitter.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 14:08Anthony Pompliano?

  Lock her up.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  But, uh, no, it's a lot. Yeah, there's always, and they all scream about the founding fathers when they're drunk. There's a lot of founding fathering. Um, and then they come home with like conspiracy theories, like he goes to the firehouse and he comes back, I have to make sure. And he'll come back like Vinnie said, they legit went to the moon. I'm like, no, they did. Like Vinnie knows nothing and don't believe anything after someone says legit. Please stop listening. But yeah, they come home because they have access to his brain for like more of the week than I do. So I can only undo so much. There's a lot of pamphlets going around.

• 14:43Anthony Pompliano?

  What, what's the craziest conspiracy theory that you've heard?

• 14:48Speaker 02

  This wasn't Pete specifically, but, um, I was at this dinner dance, one of the Staten Island dinner dance. I'm always the only Jew too. I'm just like.

• 14:56Anthony Pompliano?

  Wait, what, what was a dinner dance? What are these?

• 14:58Speaker 02

  F D N Y dinner dances where you go with your man. And then it's like they, he just deposits me at like some shrimp station, you know, with these Goodfellas extras. And I, uh, and then they do, it's like F D N Y dances. And so I.

• 15:15Anthony Pompliano?

  Do you dance with him or do the firemen dance with each other?

• 15:20Speaker 02

  I dance with him, but that would be great. I would watch a couple of greased firemen dancing with each other. Um, I prefer them greased. But yeah, no, we, we dance with each other. There's just like food and, you know, a lot of acrylics, you know, with, with start, like stars and stripes on them and shit. And, uh, yeah, that's the world basically. And so, um.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  They're either, there's usually like Gina, Vinnie, um, what are the other names? There's like four names, you know, maybe Colleen, um.

• 15:52Anthony Pompliano?

  And they're all, are they all like neighbors?

• 15:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, everybody knows each other and they usually tell me when they know another Jew. Like one of the other chiefs was like, I met a Jew, a very nice lady, very nice lady.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Yom Kippur? Like they'll just say one Jew thing they've heard of. It's a lot.

• 16:11Anthony Pompliano?

  Does it buy street cred?

• 16:13Speaker 02

  No, I mean, when people like drop that one Jew thing, it's, it's alarming. Yeah. It's like, I think they don't see anything but a Jew and they're talking to me. They're just like Jew, Jew. They just see like a giant J. It's like I'm talking to a Jew. I'm talking to a Jew. Like they just see like little horns or rope. I don't know. Floating the Star of David or some shit. It's strange. Cause I, cause I don't even, I'm not even religious, but they just hear my name and they're like Jew? I know a Jew, you know? So anyway, so he leaves me at some table and this guy comes up and he was like, you gotta come with me and my wife to Epcot. And then he goes, that's the real Japan and Epcot, that's Japan. And then he goes, people think you gotta spend all this cash and fly all the way to Japan, but it's a fucking scam.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  He referred to traveling the world as a scam and Epcot is reality somehow.

• 17:04Anthony Pompliano?

  To, to be fair to some people, he's not wrong.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  No, people believe it's Japan. They think it's, I mean, we went, we did go. Yeah.

• 17:14Anthony Pompliano?

  Did you go with him or by yourselves?

• 17:17Speaker 02

  We went with another fireman couple, actually. Yeah, we went to Epcot and then, you know, he, him too. He was like, so you don't even have to go, cause it's here. It's here.

• 17:27Anthony Pompliano?

  I mean,

• 17:30Anthony Pompliano?

  there's, there's too many things to go there. All right, let's talk about stand up. There's so much going on. Uh, you don't know the story yet, but, uh, maybe in like April, I got an email from somebody and they were like, hey, uh, I need you to come on this live stream. This is when everyone was like figuring out like, what is Zoom? And they were like, oh, I have a, like I have a camera on my laptop. I didn't know I had that and there's microphones and they were trying to figure it all out. And this guy was like, uh, we're having a virtual event. This was the first virtual event that I was gonna participate in. And I was like, what is that? He goes, we're gonna take the real event. We're gonna put it online. I was like, this is gonna be a disaster. And so he's, he said, uh, and after you are gonna be these two comedians. I don't remember their names. They weren't somebody that I had, uh, recognized.

• 18:11Anthony Pompliano?

  And, uh, it was the first time that I saw how hard it was gonna be for comedians to basically talk into their laptop with no fan reactions or audience reactions and just hope that it's going well. Like, it was-

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not, it's not a virtual sport, you know?

• 18:29Anthony Pompliano?

  So, talk a little bit just about like, what you have you been doing from a comedy side? And then like now as things are opening up, kinda what's the plan?

• 18:38Speaker 02

  Um, I mean, stand-up has taken a massive, massive hit. So, it's just like, we can't, I mean, I took for granted the money I could make in weekend, especially if, if you're headlining, you know, with the features. Now, I'm sorry, the opposite. The people that are featuring, opening, okay? Uh, when I used to open, you barely cover your travel. It's just the way you, you build up and try to, um, you know, build a fanbase, basically. Uh, so those, the people that are featuring are the most screwed and, um, the openers. And, and I was there and you're barely making ends meet anyways. You sell a CD or something like that, like online album or something to try to make extra cash on top of what you're making.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Some headliners will cover your, you know, hotel or travel. Um, and I always did that if anybody was featuring for me. But now we're making, you know, I mean, less than a third or, I mean, maybe a fifth of what we were making because we can't, uh, they all want, if they are opening a club, it's gonna be a third of capacity. And then, um, or they're doing it outside and performing on like fields and fire escapes. It's not okay. I, I did this show in somebody's backyard recently and there was like some people outside in Brooklyn and they were like, don't talk, whatever you do, before I got on, on stage, if you can call it that. Somebody goes, listen, whatever you do, don't talk to the lady in blue hair. She's been screaming about the patriarchy and she's really drunk.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  And I was like, can you just like kick her out? And they were like, no, it's her yard. And I was like, okay, fair. But that's that in a nutshell is where we're at. Like, I had such arrogance as a comic because we've always, since I started headlining, you just, you get work because people go to comedy clubs and it's been a somewhat successful business. At least if you can't make your money and if you don't get this pilot picked up or this writing job or whatever, you always have stand up because you could just jump on stage. You don't need anybody else. You don't need like, I, that's why I always feel sorry for people in bands because such a skill I don't have and I'm, they don't need me to feel sorry for them. I mean, I also envy them. But I'm like, they have to wait on like four other guys and, you know, and a drum set, the guitar and like equipment.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  We can just go on and do stand up and it's the best. You get to write it. You get to, you control so many aspects of it. It's a very independent thing, you know, and you can tweak your act to fit all these factors, you know, how old, how young, how PC, how, are they Trump people? Are they super liberal or, you know, whatever. So, um, I just always made money doing it, no matter what I was waiting on. And there's been plenty of like heartbreak with, you know, with those like pilots or TV things or whatever. Um, but I took it for granted because I just couldn't imagine a scenario that would destroy it like that, you know? So, I mean, couldn't work at all for months and I'd never gone that long without doing stand up. Since I started stand up when I was like 20, 21,

• 21:33Speaker 02

  I haven't gone like, uh, you know, a week or two without doing stand up. So,

• 21:38Anthony Pompliano?

  You get rusty?

• 21:38Speaker 02

  The most was probably my honeymoon, which was like two weeks. Yeah.

• 21:41Anthony Pompliano?

  Do you get rusty?

• 21:43Speaker 02

  You, I forgot, like my material, like things that I've, I've done for years. It was crazy. Like stuff that, this is like the joke I do when I'm bombing and I'm kind of embarrassed and hope a comic's not in the room to see it. But it's like that easy bit I know will do well. And I grab it when I'm having a tough set. Like those bits I forgot. It was so strange. I was like, People always ask you, they go, how do you remember it all? And I'm always like, it's not a thing. You just, they're your stories. You know them. But you forget it. If you don't do it for months, you forget. How go, I was just on stage like mixing up a setup and a punch. You're just lost, you know? So now I, that's why I'm going up at all these free places in between or any comedy club that's having a show on their patio.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Just because I want to remember how to do it for when I am headlining um in a local field. Or, you know, some sort of heated tent.

• 22:37Anthony Pompliano?

  They're coming, they're coming. What are you, what are you hearing from like the comedy clubs themselves in terms of? Uh, I'm assuming one, they're struggling, just like every small business that's got a physical location. But two, have they been able to do certain things to maybe kind of get some kind of revenue when they were shut down? Or how do they look at uh kind of moving forward?

• 22:55Speaker 02

  A lot of them are closing some of my favorite clubs in the world. My favorite clubs in Austin, this club Cap City. Uh, that I played for years and they're just like, it's just an awesome family owned, cool place and um. They shut down. I was like, no way. A lot of them are shutting down or they're going to have to shut down. It's impending. And uh, in New York, what the way I feel is it's very low here right now. Covid is really low. So if they're opening restaurants, um, we should open comedy clubs so that they don't all fall apart, you know? I understand when it was high, why we had to close them. But now if they're going to slowly open up restaurants and it is under one percent in New York, I would like then open up comedy clubs.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Cause people are dining, they're elastic, their masks off when they're dining and you know, see how it goes. And if it doesn't go well, then close them back up again, but.

• 23:43Anthony Pompliano?

  Are they not opening them?

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Right now. Uh, no, they're not. Um.

• 23:48Anthony Pompliano?

  Why, why is that? Like they just like nightclubs?

• 23:51Speaker 02

  They have, it's some sort of idea about the comic.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  I don't know, their face being exposed or something. I mean Cuomo is the one who doesn't want to open it and and. Schumer, the Senator Chuck Schumer has this bill like save our stages that he's trying to push through. To open up, to open up comedy again. So I'm really hoping that that. Bill goes through for now, especially because I feel like people need it and. Obviously, we need it to to live and we don't want all our favorite clubs and places to shut down. But um while we can, I say like, let's get some in and see how it goes. You know, if you're opening up restaurants, it's essentially the same thing. People have their masks off when they're inside of restaurants. So it's like, why can't the one comedian have their mask off and just perform at a third of capacity? Or however they're opening up. So I feel like it's worth trying.

• 24:38Anthony Pompliano?

  I I went and I've gotten two haircuts last month, which is like more than I got the whole year. Because I basically just, you know, let it let it let it loose and said whatever during Corona. At both times, they've got like the temperature gun. And each time that they like shoot you with this temperature gun. I'm like, first of all, how do I know that you're taking my temperature? And you're not like somehow putting some shit in my brain or you know, whatever.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  Like a true libertarian. That's something my husband would say. No one cares. No one's putting a chip in you. Oh, my God, that was that's the kind of shit he says all the time. How do I know they're not like actually reading my thoughts?

• 25:12Anthony Pompliano?

  I feel like me and your husband would get along really well.

• 25:16Anthony Pompliano?

  No, so like they got this temperature gun thing, but in like, that's fine, whatever. Like, I get it. You want to check the temperature. I don't know if necessarily you know whether I have COVID or not, based on this temperature check thing. But somebody said somewhere that they do so fine. But then you go, you sit down, they're going to cut your hair. And she's like, leave your mask on. And I was like, OK, that's going to be weird, but like, sure, we'll give this a shot. Starts cutting. And then at one point, she's like, can you take it off of your ear? But like, hold it over your mouth still. And I was like, what is going on here?

• 25:46Speaker 02

  They have the small distinctions get a little confusing.

• 25:49Anthony Pompliano?

  They have like Plexiglas, but it's not like fully encapsulating. Like the Plexiglas basically just goes to like where the person sitting down shoulder is. So like, does the virus like not go under the Plexiglas or around it? It's just very weird.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  It is very confusing, a lot of like the smaller distinctions, you know? And I I think some of it is probably like theater, just like airport security is, you know? But like, I don't know, it's confusing. But then I get, I mean, I guess I do think that like some some things got itself. I mean, I have no information that with formal education, I should point out.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know.

• 26:25Anthony Pompliano?

  My favorite thing to say is, I'm not a scientist and I literally have no clue what's true anymore. Like, I have no clue, right? It's just like, there's like some common sense things and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna put my mask on and just like, go, go do whatever they tell me. Fine. Like, I'll play this game.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, I guess it can't hurt, you know? I mean, I do think that like, some amount of, you know, we gotta take some measures, right? And then see how it goes. But I do think it's insane to say, just like, restaurants can open, but comedy clubs can. And it's unnecessarily punishing. Just give it a shot, you know? That's all. I feel strongly about that, you know? And I hope that Schumer bill goes through. I think personally, I think Cuomo's taking it too far with that.

• 27:07Anthony Pompliano?

  There's a guy who owns a restaurant down the street from me, and I walk by him every day. And he was like my barometer for, for how the small business reaction to all this was. So when they first opened up, he was, you know, basically bitching and complaining that he had to build something in the street so they could have seating, but he did it. And then at one point, he, he like, I'm walking by, and he like, got really animated, and started dropping the F-bomb, like, and I was like, this is not how this guy normally acts. And I was like, what's up, man? And he was like, you're telling me they can go get a massage and get their nails done, but you can't go inside my restaurant? And he was freaking out. And I was like, look, man, you're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not going to get a massage, I'm not getting my nails done, but I'll come in at your restaurant? That's all I got for you.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  No, I mean, some of the, yeah, some of it is crazy. And I feel like, I don't know, I hope that bill goes through, because I feel like, you know, especially the places where it's super low, we have to like, find some model to open up again, you know?

• 28:04Anthony Pompliano?

  So what are other comedians doing over the last couple of months? Or is anyone practicing? Are they getting better? Or is everyone just like, fuck it?

• 28:11Speaker 02

  No, we just started, like, performing outside in New York. Like, comedy clubs are having patio shows and stuff like that. I had shows in like, you know, outside venues. We can do that still while it's warm. So we're performing locally and doing that as much as we can, and seeing each other. And I don't know if we're getting better, but we're starting not to get as awful. It's getting a lot, it's definitely, I'll say this, I definitely feel comfortable and I can do my hour now. I can headline again. And I'm, you know, so I don't know if I'm writing a whole new one, you know, but practicing on patios, but with blue haired ladies screaming about the patriarchy, but. I do know that I'm not, I don't think I'm getting worse again. So, and I think people need it.

• 28:54Speaker 02

  Like the crowds have been really good. I mean, I will say that. They haven't been as large as we'd like them to be. We're not making the living that we're making at all, but you know, the people are coming out and it feels good to do stand up right now. You know, people are hurting.

• 29:09Anthony Pompliano?

  Absolutely. Uh, when is your, your next one? This is gonna get published on Tuesday. You've got one on Wednesday.

• 29:15Speaker 02

  So my next one is on, uh, September 30th at the Stress Factory in New Jersey. And it's outside, kinda like heated, uh, 10, um, kinda thing. And there'll be mozzarella sticks and

• 29:30Anthony Pompliano?

  Good jokes.

• 29:31Speaker 02

  Jokes. I don't know. That's why I go places for the mozzarella sticks and the beer. I always say that before.

• 29:37Anthony Pompliano?

  What city, what city is this?

• 29:39Speaker 02

  Uh, this is in, hold on, I have to check. Isn't that sad? Um.

• 29:43Anthony Pompliano?

  The Stress Factory?

• 29:44Speaker 02

  New Brunswick, New Brunswick.

• 29:46Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. The Stress Factory?

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Called The Stress Factory. So if you want to get tickets, you go to newbrunswick.stressfactory.com. And then you can get tickets to see me at 7:30 and it's my birthday. So.

• 29:59Anthony Pompliano?

  Oh, and it's your birthday?

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Oh, nice. All right. Everyone go buy tickets. Duh. No brainer. I know a bunch of you live in New Jersey. Go do it. Uh, what's going on with, uh, the pilot and with, um, the television, uh, Netflix? All the things that everyone thinks comedians sit around and do all day.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  I mean, all I watch personally, in terms of watching, is, is murder. I can't get enough true crime. I don't know what that says about me, but I can't go to sleep until I've seen like, uh, forensic files on a wife with knives for some reason. Like my husband handled pandemic anxiety. You know, having a baby and global pandemic anxiety by like, he's a researcher, so he just over-researches everything and, um. I'm the opposite. Like, we got a car recently and I would come home and he would just like kept like having those car videos playing with like cars on different terrain and stuff. It was just so boring. I could weep. And he was always just like, what do you think of this? You know, like, I know nothing. He could bring home like a Ford Dart and I'd be like, oh,

• 31:00Speaker 02

  so I guess it comes from money, you know, like, I don't give a shit. I just was like, how about the kind of car where you can put your cell phone and it just charges it, you know, like you can just balance it there. He's like, I can't buy an SUV based on whether it can charge my cell phone in a certain way. And I was like, ah, that's all I cared about. But he over-researches everything. So he dealt with his pandemic fear by just watching a lot of like diaper hacks. And like, you know, Jackson's tummy time tips, like baby Jackson's tummy time. That's what he did. I would get into bed. And not me, my fireman husband would lay there in his uniform, watching like some like one of those, you know what I mean, those YouTube plots that are like,

• 31:41Speaker 02

  so anyway, with my first kid Jackson, we were able to do sleep sacks and Truman didn't take as well to it. Runner was really amazing with sleep sacks. So every baby's different. And I'm like, please stop, please stop.

• 31:51Anthony Pompliano?

  Listen, I, I got, I gotta defend him. Here's the thing that people don't understand. So I'm watching a friend of mine go through this right now. He's having his first kid. Guys don't know anything about anything. Like, we, we all went, uh, somewhere for a weekend and we were all standing in the kitchen. And I like, you know, I got real confident and I was like, all right, I'm gonna ask some questions here. Like, I'm gonna get a little bit of education.

• 32:15Anthony Pompliano?

  And as soon as I started asking questions, like, my wife is like staring across the kitchen at me, like, ready to murder me. And I was just like, like, uh, you know, like that cord, uh, what's up with the cord thing? Like, you know, they like cut it. And she, you know, they're like, what do you mean? And by the way, the guy who's having the kid is getting the education at the same time. Like, he doesn't know any of this. And so it's like, I don't think people understand, like you're going from zero to having to be educated. It's not like, it's not like, oh, I kind of sort of know some of this stuff. And like, now I just got to learn the details. It's like, I've never even heard of that topic before. Now let me go get educated to be ready for this human to like be under my control.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  That is true. And guys have no idea. They have some strange impulses. He was like, can I put the baby in a swing at the park? I'm like, no, she's four months old. You can't just put her on a swing. She doesn't have, were you just gonna do that? Were you just gonna drop a four month old on a swing and like, see what happened? But all that being said, I will say, I am kind of like worthless too. I didn't read any books. You know, I just wanted to watch serial killer documentaries when I was pregnant. So we had a baby nurse and she told me everything. You know, I mean, she just explained everything and, and I was sitting on her bed at one point. After we had the baby and it was like a perfectly made bed because she just does everything in that perfect little baby nurse way. Like, I'm like, I'll never be able to replicate this when this woman is gone.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  And all of a sudden she looked at me and she was like, oh my God, you're bleeding. And I was like, I've gotten through COVID. I've gotten through everything. What the fuck now? And I looked down and I realized that I had smeared my protein bar all over the bed. Of this lovely woman who's like helping me care for my newborn baby. And there was just like fudge and like cranberry from a protein bar. And I was like, I am a pig. How can I keep a human alive? So that was kind of my experience. I'm not like a normal mother, you know, and I could tell that.

• 34:11Anthony Pompliano?

  But if you start every sentence with as a mother.

• 34:14Speaker 02

  As a mother.

• 34:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then you just drip protein bar all over the baby nurse's bed.

• 34:19Anthony Pompliano?

  What's the craziest thing you've blamed on being a mother? Like, what's the thing that you've like, just like, ah, no worries, I'm a mother?

• 34:28Speaker 02

  I mean, anything. I'll have like a smear of Jäger on my cheek. And I'm like, I'm sorry, Mom. You know how like all those moms, they always have like, they always have like Instagram headings like, boxed wine is my juice box or whatever, you know, so I kind of try to get on that like, I'll check my wine with my whining or whatever. Um, and so I usually try to do that, but with like, you know, Jäger or harder liquor, you know? I'm like, 10 shots of whiskey.

• 34:56Anthony Pompliano?

  Pauline has been showing me these TikToks. There's like a, like a mom TikTok, uh, thing. And, uh, they're all different moms all over the country and they like basically create content for each other on TikTok where their kids are. And I'm sure the kids aren't excited that their moms are on the same platform or whatever.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Oh, interesting.

• 35:12Anthony Pompliano?

  But they're just like, you know, when, when, uh, the baby goes to bed and literally every video is the same. They're just chugging liquor. And I'm like, okay.

• 35:23Anthony Pompliano?

  And so hearing you talk about Jäger, I'm like, there is a reoccurring theme here.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but with them, it's usually just like a glass of rosé or something. Somehow it feels acceptable. Um, but my husband doesn't drink anymore, so I'm not as worthless as I used to. He quit drinking a couple of years ago. So now it's more, it's more like just falling asleep, eating, just doing a lot of feeding in bed and passing out. That's how I numb myself.

• 35:46Anthony Pompliano?

  What, what's been the biggest surprise since you had a kid?

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Um, honestly, you know, I thought I had a lot of fear about it because I was like, what if I don't connect to her? Especially because I'm an oversharer. Like I'd tell, I'll tell anybody anything. I have, I hang out for like five minutes and I'm just like, so I still have some anger at my dad, but I'm feeling better about it, you know? So I was like, what if I don't connect to her? Because I'll tell people. I was like, I'll be that woman at a barbecue. Like, isn't it weird that I don't love her? Like, I'll have one Corona and just start telling people. And I'm like, that would be worse than not loving her. I won't be able to not tell people and it won't be cool. So thank God, I like, I think I had so much anxiety about it and like fear and focused on all the potential catastrophic

• 36:35Speaker 02

  things happening on top of what was happening, you know, in the world, that I didn't consider all the good and fun parts. So it was like pleasantly surprising, you know? And I was like, I loved her right away, which makes me a hero, I think, right? Sorry, my husband just wanted an out of your room. So

• 36:52Anthony Pompliano?

  Probably because he heard you talking about the fact that you were worried about not loving your daughter.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  Well, I was like, it is a thing you hear about that women don't connect. That happens. It doesn't mean they don't eventually love. In the, in the beginning, sometimes women have postpartum or they have some issue and they don't like bond is, is early. A lot of women will say that they don't bond right away or something and then they slowly do usually. I don't know anybody that still doesn't love their kids, but.

• 37:19Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, the 15 year old, that's the one. We just don't get, we just don't really hit it off.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  I mean, sometimes there is a hole in the team, you know, you'll see three kids and you're like, they definitely love that one the most, you know, not the other one. So, but luckily we only have one kid and yeah, loved her right away. I think because I had so much nerves about it that I was just so pleasantly surprised. And she's very cute. So I'm, I'm pretty into it. It's fun. It's like a movie, like you just, she entertains us. She does silly little things all the time. She's very cute.

• 37:49Anthony Pompliano?

  I, I, I feel like, uh, you guys seem to have like done pretty well with this, like coronavirus, uh, protest riots, baby. Like still alive. You have a car, it charges your phone. Like there's progress going on in your house.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  He's an amazing dad, like does everything, everything.

• 38:12Anthony Pompliano?

  Does he have, does he have the, uh, front backpack?

• 38:15Speaker 02

  Yes. He take, he has the carrier thing. Yeah. He's got all of that. And he's obsessed, like jumps up every time she cries. When I was pregnant, he was like somewhat, uh, worthless. Like we got on, uh, when I was in Florida, he was with me. And then we went back to the airport after we had to fly and it was like, you know, May 15th, whatever, whenever, uh, the Golden State Warriors got, so. And then he boarded the plane without me. I went to get a water. I was seven months fucking pregnant. He boards the plane without me. And fire mineral.

• 38:49Anthony Pompliano?

  Maybe he thought you were on the plane.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  No, he thought I went to get a water and I was taking too long and I got on the plane. I'm like, what the fuck? And he was like, yeah, I just thought I'd like get situated. I'm like, there's nobody even on this plane. There was like a third of the people were even on the plane. You thought you'd get yourself situated?

• 39:07Speaker 02

  I was like, what in the fuck were you thinking? But he's fireman because they're first responders and maybe other first responders too. They're like underreactors in those situations. It's like having an argument with like the nine one one operator. You know, when you, whenever you hear those tapes and you're like, that poor woman, like, won't she at least put some warmth in her voice? Like, I know she can't say certain stuff, but just be like, John, we'll be right there. Or I was like, all right, ma'am. Okay, you know, that's what, that's what it's like with him. I'm like, where the fuck were you? He's like, yeah, just thought I'd get situated. I'm like, do you not understand how insanely awful that is? He's like, yeah, I was just figuring you'd be on your way. And I'm like, no. So he was that, he was that.

• 39:48Anthony Pompliano?

  He, he may have just been checking the plane for COVID, making sure that he got it off before you got there.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  I mean, it was, yeah, it was astonishing. But then I think, you know what? But the baby, I mean, also maybe it's something about a girl. I don't know. I mean, he's, he'll do everything for her. Yeah.

• 40:10Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, that's great.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  He'll do it all. So he's definitely very into being a dad.

• 40:14Anthony Pompliano?

  I feel like that is the one thing that every guy talks about is like, it's a rite of passage. You get the little carrier thing strapped on your chest. You walk down the street, little baby's bopping around, can't put it in a swing. We, I now know that that's, I'm glad that he, he figured that out before I ever have a kid. So I know that rule.

• 40:33Anthony Pompliano?

  Uh, I gotta ask you, I have not seen it yet, but I've had multiple people tell me the movie, uh, King of Staten Island, I think it's called. Is that the one? It's about a.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  FDY and Pete Davidson, Pete Davidson's dad died in nine 11. And so it's, it's about like what his life kind of, it's sort of, he's not a comedian in the movie, but it's about his, his life and his family. You know, some things are changed, but.

• 40:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Did you guys watch it?

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I watched it separately from him, but it's it's really good. It's excellent.

• 41:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Is that what the?

• 41:04Speaker 02

  And Bill Burr is a good friend of mine and a comedian, and he's amazing and super talented and is incredible in it.

• 41:11Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, I went on Bill Burr's podcast and he was screaming about the Federal Reserve for like half the time to the point where I thought he was gonna run for president.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  He's always equally equally furious about like it could be.

• 41:23Anthony Pompliano?

  He's super educated, though. That's that's the scariest part is a comedian who's educated and mad. Like, I was I was very impressed with how much he knew, but he was very mad and I was I was there for it. I loved it. But is that is that what the FDNY culture is like in that movie?

• 41:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is very actor. I mean, this is also like a while ago, but you know, it's definitely it's definitely very active. I mean, there's a there's a subculture to the fire department and they understand each other in a way nobody else does. It's a lot like comics in a way, except, you know, again, they save people's lives and we're narcissists, but they, I mean, there's they work off adrenaline, you know, the highs are really high and then the downtime is like awesome, you know, so and the lows are very low and very scary. So it's like there's this and there's this language they speak that nobody else speaks. Like when we hang out at the table at the Comedy Cellar, this this club that we

• 42:19Speaker 02

  is kind of my home club when I'm in New York and I miss being there so much now. We just sit at that table and like slam wings in our dumb faces and just say unspeakable things to each other, you know? And then a comedian will come up with his girlfriend or a or a or a female comic will come up with her boyfriend or whatever and the comics get annoyed. They're like, oh, so and so had to bring a and we'll call them a civilian. We'll be like, oh, they had to bring a civilian, you know? Because we can't speak the way we speak because we're disgusting. We're animals and we just say like crazy nonsense that other people are called by and firemen are the same.

• 42:52Anthony Pompliano?

  Are are people gonna get offended?

• 42:54Speaker 02

  Just, we don't feel like we could talk as comfortably, you know, with non-comics. I think that's how a lot of comedians feel and like also people that aren't comedians, they'll sort of come and try to be on in a certain way or be like, you, I should be a comedian. You should put that in your sketch. You should put this in your sketch. We're crazy. You've got to come to my job. You get that a lot. Like, you should come to where I work. And I'm like, I don't really need to go to like the store you work at in Tampa. Like, I have a good idea of what happens there. I'll get material, I think, on my own. But people do that. And so comics get like weird. They don't want, yeah, they just want to be comedians and not think about it.

• 43:32Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah. I think it's Kevin Hart's kind of piece where he's like, people come up to him and they're like, "Hey, man, be funny." And he's like, "What the fuck?" Like, and they're like, "Yeah, come on, let's go. Like, tell me a joke." And he's just like, "This isn't how this works." And he has this whole thing about just like, people expect comedians to be funny 100% of the time, no matter where they are at all. Like, literally just walk up to you while you're eating dinner and be like, "Rachel, come on, tell me a joke. Like, that's your job."

• 43:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. They don't understand you have like other aspects to your, I mean, a lot, there are a lot of people that do and they're really lovely, but a lot of times people from the audience right after the show will sort of expect you to be funny or they'll come up and kind of nag you, like, give you shit and think like that's how you like to be talked to or something. So it's weird. And firemen, it's the same kind of thing. When I stop by the firehouse, like, I feel like the chemical change in the room when I walk into that firehouse kitchen because, and I want to be like, "No, I'm an animal too." Like, you can keep saying the disgusting things you were just saying. Should hear my friends were like 10 times worse. But there's some weird similarities, you know?

• 44:30Anthony Pompliano?

  Have you walked into the firehouse yet and just roasted a bunch of them? Like, I feel like that immediately puts you on e- even playing field. Just walk in one day and just the worst things that you would say to your comedian friends, just go down the line, every single fireman. And my guess is that not only will they not be mad, they'll just come right back. And then your husband will have to go like, "Hey, guys, come on."

• 44:51Speaker 02

  I mean, I can't, I wouldn't do that because they don't know me like that, but I'll. So I wouldn't, I don't know them to fuck with them like that, you know what I mean? But I will. He's what's called a bouncing captain, so he goes to different firehouses. So he might be at one firehouse this week and another firehouse next week, and he's the boss. So the guys are like, you know, nervous around. So it's fun to drop in because they don't know that I'm his wife in the beginning. So there's one firehouse where they all stand outside and they. Like the younger guys, there's like a little bit of a separation, you know, between the boss. Like he wouldn't go out with them or whatever. So he'll be up in his office, uh, smoking a cigar or. Watching you porn or something. And I'm, I'll walk up outside and like, so the young guys, they stand outside with dog treats.

• 45:35Speaker 02

  So that if a cute girl comes by with a dog, they can give it to her, you know? So it was like Halloween and I walked up kind of slowly. And, um, one of the guys did that thing where he looks back at the other guy and tells him there's an ass worth reviewing. As you're passing, they go like. You know, and they think we don't know this, like this is the most simple, obvious eye contact. And I was spirit flattered that I had an ass worth reviewing, but they, they could do this. And he looks back at his friends and then so they all look, and so then I just kind of slowed down. And it was like, you know, Halloween, so there's a lot of drunks in the streets. So I was like, it's really scary out there, boys. First of all, thank you for your service. Think I could come in for a little bit and take cover? Just a lot of douchebags out there and I'm frightened, you know? And they just did not expect that.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  So one of the guys was like, yeah, sure, come on in, uh, we get some snacks in the kitchen, uh, yeah, absolutely, come in, you know? So I walk in, I'm like, is Captain Brennan here by any chance? And they just like turned fucking white, you know? And then he calls him, I'm a little rocky, like you, he goes, boss, your boss is here. And so Pete comes down, he wouldn't give a shit, first of all, he's not jealous. He'll just hand me to anybody that asks for me, just be like, have her back within a week or so. But, uh, and another time I went by the firehouse and this was fun. So sometimes I'll bring by food, like, you know, wings from the Comedy Cellar or whatever. And a lot of them are really attractive. So I'll look for any excuse to just like pop in,

• 47:02Speaker 02

  I beat something, you know. So I come by and I have a box. They get very suspicious of outside food, right? Because people bring probably like weird, jacked up gangrenous things like just some old lady that brings them some strange shit.

• 47:16Anthony Pompliano?

  And they may get a chip, a chip may get implanted in their brains if they eat the cookies.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 47:22Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So you, so you bring her the box.

• 47:24Speaker 02

  So there are suspicious group in general. So I come by with this box and these cookies I bought. Um, and they had a, like a tie around them. And I go to one of the guys, don't worry, I bought these, you know, they're not, I didn't bring them from my home. And then they don't know I'm, you know, Pete's wife. And I go, and they're all tied up. You can see, I just got them from the place. And the guy was like, you like to be tied up? So then, so one of the other guys happens to know, because he used to work in a different firehouse, but I'm Pete's wife. He's like, yeah, come here, buddy. He's like, what? Do you like to be done? He thinks it's just a neighborhood twat that, you know, has the hots for firemen to come by with cookies. One of the guys is like, let me talk to you for a second, buddy. He kind of takes him on a walk around

• 48:06Speaker 02

  the ring. And the guy came back just shook, you know, and it was so fun to fuck with them. And I told Pete on the way home, and he's like, oh, he'll have a nickname forever for that incident, you know, but he doesn't give a shit. Again, he'll just hand me right off.

• 48:18Anthony Pompliano?

  It, it's literally like the army. Like you just, the, the culture is so different. And I feel like you get the best of both worlds, which is like, you get to participate in the comedian, comedian's world. And then you get to go and you know, exactly the buttons to push in the fireman world. And they have like, it's unfair of you to walk in there to these unsuspecting suspects and just destroy them. And then you like, and then you have like the trump card. Like, oh yeah, by the way, can I see the boss?

• 48:48Speaker 02

  I know. It's so, it's the best.

• 48:51Anthony Pompliano?

  I love it.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Um, I love it. Yeah. Also, it's fun just to like, I mean, it's fun to just tell everybody. Like I tell, I tell anyone he's a firefighter. I'm like, I'll be at CVS and I'll be like, they can take their badge out. They call it tinum. And I'll be like, tinum, you know, like he'll be like, we're in a CVS. They just don't have the kind of gum I'm looking for. It's not a tinum situation. But I just have fun with it, you know, until a global pandemic hits.

• 49:20Anthony Pompliano?

  Exactly.

• 49:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's cool, though. It's a cool world and they're fun. They're definitely a fun group, firefighters.

• 49:28Anthony Pompliano?

  I love it. I love it. Well, as a new mother, where can people find you on the internet?

• 49:34Speaker 02

  You can find me at Rachel on Instagram at Rachel Feinstein underscore and on.

• 49:42Anthony Pompliano?

  Is there that many Rachel Feinstein's that you had to get the underscore?

• 49:46Speaker 02

  You know, this is going to sound like such a name drop and it absolutely is, but I did this show with Shaq and Shaq was like, you're not on Instagram. We used to do this TV show that was canceled immediately. Me and Shaq co-hosted it. He's like, you gotta be on Instagram. And so that was like, not the best Shaq, but um, he set it up for me. He was like, you need to do it. And he just took my phone and he did that.

• 50:08Anthony Pompliano?

  And he put the underscore because you, because you couldn't just have your name. You gotta have an underscore.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  I guess so, but I didn't set it up and.

• 50:15Anthony Pompliano?

  You, you should just put it Rachel Feinstein underscore Shaq. Just put Shaq's name in there. Just give him some credit.

• 50:23Anthony Pompliano?

  All right. So you're on Instagram. Where else?

• 50:25Speaker 02

  Uh, you can go to my website at Rachel Feinstein.com. And um, well, I should let Pete say hi. He'll be happy to meet you.

• 50:34Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, let's do it. Is he here? Yes, yes. So for those of you that are listening and or watching, Rachel is going to get her, her husband real quick. I have no clue if he's inside the house, outside the house. Maybe he's at the fire station. We're going to find out in a second, but she is now left. She's going to get him. Maybe I could do like a filibuster like they do on the, on the senate floor, I think, or the congressional floor. See if we can find him. He may refuse. He may say no.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  No, he's, he's coming on. He's got that. He's just trying to press down his no COVID haircut.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, I haven't cut my hair in months.

• 51:15Anthony Pompliano?

  Where is he? What's up, man? Listen, I got one question.

• 51:21Speaker 03

  Sure, sure.

• 51:22Anthony Pompliano?

  What's the best conspiracy theory you've ever heard at the firehouse?

• 51:25Speaker 03

  Oh, man. He told you about the Vinnie stories?

• 51:29Anthony Pompliano?

  But by the way, I said that it sounds like it's just a bunch of Bitcoiners from Twitter like just hanging out at the firehouse.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. They read someone else's conspiracy like, yeah, it sounds good enough.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Let's see how far this one goes, you know? It's a lot of nonsense.

• 51:43Anthony Pompliano?

  My favorite thing is, uh, when you see whether policeman, fireman, whatever, you know, like, I'm like, what do you think the two cops sitting in that car outside CBS with their lights on and they're just trying to deter people from stealing shit? What are they talking about all day? Cause it's definitely, it's definitely something the public doesn't want to hear.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  I mean, it's the same with the, yeah, when you're in the fire, you know, in the engine or the truck, it's, uh, you're kind of, you're up front with the chauffeur and then there's the guys hanging out in the back and you can't, sometimes I can overhear their conversation. They just start coming up with the most random stuff.

• 52:15Speaker 03

  All right, guys, you know, it's just like zone out and forward. That's it. That's how it is though, you know?

• 52:21Anthony Pompliano?

  I, I, I love it because of the distrust of, uh, of the government, of society, et cetera. We were talking about the temperature gun, right? And it's like, oh, I know that something's getting in my brain with the temperature gun.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  That's what he said. I was like, that's insane. That's spoken like a true libertarian. They're planting a chip in my brain when they take my temperature. I, I like the temperature. I'm sure.

• 52:42Speaker 03

  She loves all this stuff. Yeah. We disagree on when it comes to these kind of things, you know?

• 52:46Speaker 02

  I'll take a temperature.

• 52:48Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, I feel like that's the next.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  The vaccine first.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  I don't know about the vaccine. I'll take my time.

• 52:53Speaker 03

  I'll let her chill down and see in a couple of years, you know?

• 52:55Anthony Pompliano?

  I feel like this is the pilot, the pilot that we need is like Rachel's like rational approach to the world.

• 53:02Anthony Pompliano?

  You taking the best conspiracy theories to the firehouse and just throwing her at her and letting her react to them.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Perfect.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  But he has been, uh, definitely, uh, he was into Bitcoin from the beginning.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Not the beginning, probably, uh, what was it around 2013 ish, 24.

• 53:18Anthony Pompliano?

  It was a pretty good time.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  It was, it was, it was a good time to get in.

• 53:21Anthony Pompliano?

  Who told you about it?

• 53:24Speaker 03

  You know, it's funny. I just it I just from the internet kind of thing where it's just like I was I kind of listened to some of the libertarian podcasts and things like that and they kind of started to mention it. And I remember just seeing like these articles, like I get these RSS feeds and it was just like Bitcoin, it's ten dollars Bitcoin, it's a hundred dollars. And then all of a sudden, when it hit a hundred, I was like, all right, what is this Bitcoin thing? And I started to read up on it upon it, you know? My only problem was then, so once I really learned about it, I'm like, wow, so it sounds pretty amazing and everything. It just had so many great fundamentals and principles to it. And I'm like, yeah, I definitely want to get involved with it. And now at this point, the price went from like a hundred to like a thousand. And then it crashed down to like eight hundred or whatever it was like seven fifty. I'm like,

• 54:04Speaker 03

  all right, it's dipping. Let's buy. So that's when I started buying and it dipped all the way down to like two hundred or something. I kind of just forgot about it.

• 54:11Speaker 02

  That's what he always said. He goes, when your cab driver's telling you about it, get out.

• 54:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  The barber's yapping about it, get out.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  Yeah. What I bought at a bad time, but this is you being encouraging to people that bought during the last Bitcoin boom. And now things kind of, it looks like things are starting to slowly rise now, but this could be like the next series for all that. And these guys could have similar stories how.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  This is what I got him for Christmas because he said so much.

• 54:37Anthony Pompliano?

  When your bachelor's yapping, oh, when your barber?

• 54:40Speaker 02

  When your barber's yapping about it, get out.

• 54:42Anthony Pompliano?

  That's true. Listen, that's true.

• 54:45Speaker 03

  Like, once guys at the firehouse kitchen start talking like the people that aren't invested, I'm just like, I'm like, you know, because one of the fundamentals about it, what do you know about it? It was just purely about making money. I'm like, oh.

• 54:57Anthony Pompliano?

  Pete's Pete's definitely gonna have, he's got like a activist short fund. He's just gonna go around the firehouse, say, hey, what are the hot stocks? Like, let's go short all of those.

• 55:05Speaker 03

  That's it. Once, once you hear the fireman starts talking about it, it's just like that quote, all right, get out.

• 55:11Speaker 03

  That'll be the indicator. It's like, all right, let's take some money off the table kind of thing.

• 55:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I hear all this stuff all the time. It's like, money is imaginary. So I get little bits.

• 55:20Anthony Pompliano?

  It's true. That's a fact. Listen.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  I agree with it. Money is fiction.

• 55:24Anthony Pompliano?

  The conspiracy theorists of the world, we, we, the reason why we all get along is because we're probably more right than wrong. Right? Yeah, sure. There's a couple of ones that we're not right about, but if you think about it, like, well, it's probably more true than not.

• 55:36Speaker 03

  Exactly. It's a little bit, little degree of something, right?

• 55:40Anthony Pompliano?

  And the worst part, the worst part is I'm assuming that if there's ever something that comes out to prove one of them correct, it's game over because the next 100 of them are for sure, you know, they're just like that last one that was true, right? It's like you give them a little bit of confidence and they're like, oh God, here we go.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  I don't know about, I mean, I don't understand very much about money to be fair. So he's, that's not my territory. He talks about it and I.

• 56:04Anthony Pompliano?

  Well, the dollars are fake and the Bitcoin is real. That's all you gotta remember.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  Okay, that's what I'll remember. I got it, Poppy. You said that exact sentence to me, by the way, many a time. Congratulations again on your marriage and are you gonna have, before I go, or do you think you guys are gonna create a human?

• 56:19Anthony Pompliano?

  Well, now that I know that the four month old can't go on a swing, I'm prepared.

• 56:27Speaker 03

  That's a good lesson.

• 56:28Anthony Pompliano?

  We were talking about the, the rite of passage of getting the carrier that goes in front, like the little backpack thing where the baby goes in. That's like, that's like a big step, right? That's like a, I'm a.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  You gotta, you definitely have to practice. You make fun of me because I practice stuff beforehand.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  He would do drills, you know, every fireman's got a bunker. By the way, they've all got bunkers.

• 56:50Anthony Pompliano?

  You're, you're laughing, but if he, but if he put the child in the backpack and, and it fell, you would, you would have been horrified.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  She was like, with the pack and play.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  He'd be like, we gotta get the pack and play down. Get up in the morning. We gotta figure this out. We gotta get it down. It was like always, how can I put it up and down in under 60 seconds? I'm like, there's this supply and demand issue with trying to.

• 57:13Anthony Pompliano?

  Oh, yeah. The, the other, that's the other problem with cops, firemen, soldiers, et cetera. It's like, when I went through basic training, they gave us a gun and they're like, hey, here's how you take it apart, like the M16. Next thing you know, literally within like three days, people are literally having racists doing it blindfolded, you know, with like one hand. And it's just like, oh, this is competitive. Sure. Like I could, I bet you I could do it faster than you. So what's different with the, the baby equipment?

• 57:37Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  Who's put their babies to sleep the fastest?

• 57:41Speaker 02

  It's always a race.

• 57:45Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, guys.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  You would be, you guys would be good parents. From what I know, you seem like a happy couple. So,

• 57:50Anthony Pompliano?

  Yeah, we're just having fun. Whatever. We're like, we're like, you guys make all the mistakes and then we'll just be perfect. It's like,

• 57:55Speaker 02

  I mean, when you're ready, we wait, wait until like the bottom of the ninth. Yeah. So take your time. Thank you so much, though. Thanks for having me.

• 58:02Anthony Pompliano?

  Of course. What, uh, tell me the website one more time where people can go in New Jersey and listen to you.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 58:08Anthony Pompliano?

  Or actually just eat mozzarella sticks and drink beer.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  It's, uh, hold on, just looking at it right now. It is New Brunswick, N E W B R U N S W I C K dot stressfactory.com. It's at 7:30 on September the 30th. Doors open at 6, well, you know, outside doors. I don't know what that means exactly, but,

• 58:31Anthony Pompliano?

  Six, an hour and a half before the show?

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Does seem kind of early. Um, just get there at 6:30. That should be plenty of time. Get some food, sit down, chill. It's a good club, the Stress Factory. Like their outside situation I hear is very good. Like it's, it's heated. It's, there's usually generally pretty full crowds there and they have, uh, again, uh, good mozzarella sticks. So,

• 58:52Anthony Pompliano?

  Perfect.

• 58:54Anthony Pompliano?

  All right, guys. Thank you guys so much for doing this.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Thank you. Thank you so much. Bye.