FULL SPEECH: Tucker on the America First Movement & New “Deplatforming” Agenda of Some on the Right

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• 0:16Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, what a trip.

• 0:21Tucker Carlson?

  Thank you very much.

• 0:24Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, yeah. Thank you. Whoa.

• 0:33Tucker Carlson?

  Thank you.

• 0:35Tucker Carlson?

  Walking out is always such a trip at these things. I just, I just got here and I feel like I missed the first part of the program. Hope I didn't miss anything meaningful. But I just want to say, I don't think I did. No, I'm just kidding. I watched it. I laughed. I laughed, that kind of bitter, sardonic laugh that emerges from you and like upside-down world arrives. When your dog starts doing your taxes and you're like, "Wait, it's not supposed to work this way." To hear calls for like deplatforming and denouncing people at a Charlie Kirk event, I'm like, "What? This is hilarious." Yeah. This is hilarious.

• 1:17Tucker Carlson?

  Actually, one of the clips, I was listening to myself, thinking as I often do when I hear myself speak, which is never, because I never watch myself, but at these events they always play like the role of you. And I'm like, "That guy is pompous." Sorry about that. We don't see ourselves clearly. But the prediction that, you know, at some point, when Republicans took power again, which I did everything I could, you know, to help, and really felt that was important. I still think, you know, I was right. But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people, or even to use the word "platform" as a verb, which it's not, it's a noun, don't steal my nouns, deplatform

• 2:00Tucker Carlson?

  and denounce, "Why haven't you denounced somebody else?" The whole like Red Guard Cultural Revolution thing that we so hated and feared on the Left, that we did everything we could to usher in a new time where you could have an actual debate. I mean, this kind of was the whole point of Charlie Kirk's public life. And I think that... I think that he died for it. I really believe that. And I know a lot about it because the last several months of Charlie's life were devoted in part to arguing about this event. In fact, this speech, in fact, my speech here, which he asked me to do earlier this year, this summer, and was immediately put under just immense pressure

• 2:45Tucker Carlson?

  from people who give money to Turning Point. I would assume good people, but who wanted him to take me off the roster. And this has all become public, and the whole thing is so sad that I never talk about it, except to say Charlie stood firm in his often-stated and deeply-held belief that people should be able to debate and that if you have something valid to say, if you're telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who don't agree with you and that you shouldn't immediately resort to "shut up racist." You shouldn't immediately go to motive. By the way, "shut up racist" is the number-one reason I voted for Donald Trump. And because I'm just sick of it.

• 3:30Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, first of all, if I was a racist, if I was a bigot, I would just say so. Okay, it's America. You're allowed to be whatever kind of person you want. I'm not. I'm sincerely opposed, have always been, and will always be. But the style of debate where you prevent the other side from talking or being heard because you immediately go to motive, "Well, I wonder why you're asking that question." "I wonder why." "Why are you asking that question?" "I detect in the question a certain evil in your soul." And everyone listening should know that listening to you implicates them and that they someday may be asked to denounce you and that friendship is not a reason to defend someone. Love is no defense.

• 4:16Tucker Carlson?

  I kind of thought we'd reached the end of that. And as far as I'm concerned, we have. And I'm not going to play by those rules.

• 4:23Tucker Carlson?

  I'm not going to engage in that. If someone doesn't like what I think, fine with me, as long as I get to express it. That's my view. But since we're on the topic, I think I should take the opportunity to explain why Charlie was under all this pressure. And I think Erica, who I just saw backstage, and whom I love, and who I can tell you was totally committed to continuing the core principle of Charlie's public life, which is the right of every person to express what he believes. That is rooted in Christian faith. We believe people should be able to say what they think because they have souls. They're human beings, created by God. They are not slaves. They are not animals. They are not objects.

• 5:08Tucker Carlson?

  You cannot tell another human being to shut up, even shut up racist, because you don't own him. He is an independent, autonomous person created by God as an individual. Okay? So that's where that belief comes from. That's where free speech comes from. And there's no accident, this is the only country in the world that protects it, because our founding documents were informed, as you just heard so nicely expressed by Michael Knowles, my friend, by people who self-consciously incorporated Christian precepts into their structure of government. So Charlie was committed to that. But the people around him were like, "You can't, because it's not that Carlson's wrong." My only point was, "I don't want a land war with Iran."

• 5:53Tucker Carlson?

  I got all over my skis and said I didn't want another regime change war with Iran." Rather than explain why we should have a regime change war with Iran, which I'd be happy to listen to, he's an anti-Semite. He's an anti-Semite! Which I said, "Well, obviously, that's not true." And Charlie said, "I know." And then it just didn't stop. So I continued to say, "I'm not an anti-Semite." "We don't care what you say, you're lying, you are." So let me just affirm one final time: Not only am I not an anti-Semite, and would say so if I was, I'm not an anti-Semite for a very specific reason. Not because it's unpopular, or my donors don't like it. I don't have any donors.

• 6:31Tucker Carlson?

  I'm not an anti Semite, because antisemitism is immoral. In my religion.

• 6:38Tucker Carlson?

  It is immoral to hate people for how they were born. Period. But that is not

• 6:49Tucker Carlson?

  a limited principle. That is a universal principle. It applies to every human being on planet Earth. You may not, you are prohibited by my religion, which is Christianity, from hating people for how they were born. Because God created them with His spark in His image. Because they have souls. You can disagree with them.

• 7:15Tucker Carlson?

  You can hate their ideas. You may even find yourself, and I do, I'll confess it, hating them for a moment. But you can't hate everyone who's like them.

• 7:25Tucker Carlson?

  You can't punish people for crimes they didn't commit. That's the basis of our justice system. That's the basis of Christian ethics. That's why we have what are called "human rights." They apply to every human, not just your group, not just my group, but every group, every human. Because we don't consider people in terms of the groups to which they belong. We consider them as individuals, the way that God created them.

• 7:49Tucker Carlson?

  So antisemitism is not just naughty, it's immoral. And it is precisely as immoral as hating any other group. And that would include other groups in the United States that are hated and have been under attack for decades. And that would include white men. Who did nothing to become white men, they were born that way. And just because you have a beef with a white man, let's just say Donald Trump, doesn't mean you get to punish all the rest of the white men in the country. And yet, our leaders, not just of our Congress,

• 8:32Tucker Carlson?

  the executive branch under Biden, but of every major US corporation, of every college in the country, probably except Hillsdale and two others, every single one, for more than 10 years, has engaged in a systematic effort

• 8:48Tucker Carlson?

  ...to hurt white men because they are white men. That is racism that is precisely as bad as antisemitism, but it is much more widespread and has been so far much more damaging. And my point is, if you said nothing about that, or if you encouraged it by, say, cheering on BLM, which was an anti-white hate group, and said so, then you have no moral standing to lecture me about bias. Period. Because all bias is the same. You are not allowed to hate people based on their bloodline.

• 9:32Tucker Carlson?

  We do not believe in blood guilt. We reject blood guilt. That's why our justice system is just. That's why our religion is just. Every person has the possibility of transformation. Paul is wandering around, Saul of Tarsus is wandering around murdering Christians. Then he decides, "Well, I'll walk to Syria", and he's met on the road by Jesus, who changes him, and in one day he becomes the most energetic church planter and apostle of Christianity. In one day! He went from enemy to leader in one day. And that possibility exists for every human being, every human being. That's what our Christian faith tells us. That's also what our eyes tell us. There are no permanent enemies. There cannot be.

• 10:16Tucker Carlson?

  And I would extend this to even people who attack me from this stage. They'll say, "If we agree on something, I'm happy to be friends with you." "You may have been mean to me one day. Well, I was mean to you too. That's all right." There is always the possibility that we can recognize we have more in common than divides us and come back together. There are no permanent enemies. There is no such thing as blood guilt and collective punishment in this country, in the Middle East, anywhere on the planet, is totally immoral. And if you want to know what makes America exceptional, it's that idea. And it's our job to defend it. Well, this Christmas, give the gift of sleep with Eight Sleep.

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• 13:53Tucker Carlson?

  So I guess I would just say to the many organizations now, and particularly the supplies to the Anti-Defamation League, which has cheered on anti-white hatred for decades, has attacked anyone who said anything about it, which has been one of the most aggressive cheerleaders for hate against white men in the United States, now trying to lecture the rest of us about hate, I would say, it's enough to point out the irony of that, come to our side, which is the side of humanity, and oppose all hate against all people. Say out loud, hate against whites is every bit as bad as hate against Jews.

• 14:35Tucker Carlson?

  It's a universal principle, or it's not a principle, it's just a preference.

• 14:42Tucker Carlson?

  If it's not a universal principle, it's not a principle, it's just a preference, it's just identity politics. And we've had enough of that, and that's the one thing that will destroy this country, certainly. The only thing that will save it is the understanding that principles upon which America was founded apply to every single human being, always. So I just want to say that.

• 15:07Tucker Carlson?

  By way of saying that I'm not just situationally opposed to antisemitism, I'm actually opposed to antisemitism. And I hope that the ADL will join me. I'll send them money, by the way, if they come out against hate aimed at anyone and everyone. I hope they will. But let me just say something more broadly about where the conservative movement, whatever that is, the people who voted for Trump, the Trump coalition, and the supposed civil war going on within that group. I don't think it's real. I think it's fake. I think it's totally fake. I don't think, and I've had cause to think a lot about this because I've been unwittingly

• 15:52Tucker Carlson?

  involved in the proxy war. There are two things going on here, and I'm not guessing. One is jockeying for position post-Trump. So Trump created this amazing coalition, bringing in people who had never voted Republican before but were very enthusiastic about him. And that coalition took over the most powerful government in the history of the world. So there's a lot at stake here. And so the question becomes, who gets to run it after? Who gets the machinery when the president exits the scene? And there are a lot of people in Washington, maybe even in this room, who aren't quite sure what they want, but they know they don't want J.D. Vance. Okay? And so the attack, and you heard it from the stage tonight, there's someone here who's a very bad man, and he's friends with J.D. Vance.

• 16:36Tucker Carlson?

  Could be me. I am sad about being used in a proxy war over politics in which I'm not involved in any level, I'm not advisor to anybody. But I just think I should say that out loud, okay? There are people who are mad at J.D. Vance, and they're stirring up a lot of this in order to make sure he doesn't get the nomination. So that, this is true. So this raises the obvious question, which is, why are they mad at J.D. Vance? Such a nice guy, which he is. They're mad at J.D. Vance because he is the one person, and things could change, of course, but right now, who really kind of buys the core idea of the Trump coalition. Now, what is that idea? Ladies and gentlemen, anyone know?

• 17:21Tucker Carlson?

  Anyone know? America first.

• 17:25Tucker Carlson?

  It's America First. It's really simple. Which I notice, some people are pretty anxious to retire that phrase. Remember when they told us, "That's a bigoted phrase." Really? It is. And then, they just decided to ignore it in favor of MAGA. Make America Great Again, which I'm obviously for. But how do you make America great again? By putting "America First." Now, what does that mean? I'll be more precise. It's not a complicated concept. It's a really simple concept. The US government, the largest organization in human history with the most well-funded military in history, ought to, in all the decisions it makes, put the interests of American citizens first.

• 18:10Tucker Carlson?

  That's it.

• 18:13Tucker Carlson?

  Oh!

• 18:16Tucker Carlson?

  That's creepy! Sounds kind of fascist. You gonna invade Poland now? No, just the opposite. In fact, the original America Firsters were kind of against wars, and the current ones are too. Actually, it just means what it sounds like. The government ought to serve the people who pay for it, who elected them, in whose name the business of government is conducted. That's all it means. Now, there are two things to know about this idea. The first is, almost everyone's for that. Like, what percentage? If you polled that idea in the supposedly fractious Trump coalition that's in the

• 18:57Tucker Carlson?

  middle of a civil war, what percentage of people would disagree with that? Well, a few. You know, people whose names you know. "Well, that sounds like America only." No, it's not. Just "America First," it's simple. But like, probably 95% of Trump voters would be for that. And I bet you, like, probably 70% of people who didn't vote for Trump would be for that. And if you calmed down and explained it to them, probably like, 90%. Why? Because it's self-evident, like most true things. And moreover, and think this through for a second, there is no other legitimate rationale for running our government.

• 19:40Tucker Carlson?

  We have self-government. This is a democratic republic. It exists for our benefit.

• 19:48Tucker Carlson?

  The documents were written that way. The point of the American Revolution was to make that point. And so if you're not operating the federal government on behalf of US citizens, you're illegitimate. You actually have no right to rule. Period. And if you disagree, tell me what the other legitimate justification is. "Oh, because my friends, or people I agree with, or in my, you know, interest group," or... I mean, no. The government must, must, this is non-negotiable, operate on behalf of American citizens.

• 20:28Tucker Carlson?

  So, once you realize that that's the statement at the center of the debate, it all becomes pretty clear. Really clear, actually. It's not an ideological debate. There's nothing ideological about that. I've got all kinds of kooky ideological views. I love Knowles's list of all the views. I probably had most of them in my long and varied life. I have fewer now. I just kind of want to see a good faith effort to improve the country. That's it. And I'm ever aware that I'm not exactly sure the right way a lot of times. Are tariffs the best way to help the country? I don't know. I hope so. Not an expert. All I really care about is that the people in charge care. That they love the people they lead.

• 21:13Tucker Carlson?

  That is the first and most important requirement of leadership. A father who loves his children may make mistakes, probably will, inevitably will. I did. But if he loves his kids, he'll do a pretty good job, and they'll be fine. An officer who loves his men, you know, he can't control the battle, but they'll do better than the officer who doesn't. The president who truly loves his people will, over time, tend to make wiser decisions on their behalf. But the leaders who don't care at all, they'll destroy your country. And that is absolutely what we've had. That's, by the way, not noted as an effort to "black pill" you.

• 21:54Tucker Carlson?

  Or an effort to discourage you or convince you you have no agency or control. You have a lot of control. You just changed the government. Good. But if you want to know what the debate is going forward and what your job is going forward, it's holding your leaders to that very simple standard. Not on tariffs or any of these specific policy questions necessarily, but on their motive. Can you look me in the face and explain to me why the thing that you are doing, the money you're appropriating, can you tell me why that helps our country and our people? Tell me how?

• 22:31Tucker Carlson?

  And if you're doing the whole shut up racist thing, then I have a right to question your motives, actually. Why can't you answer the question? Why can't you answer that question? Why do you have to imply that some college kid is like some kind of Hitlerite or something because he's asking about an event? Like what? By the way, it is okay to ask questions. And I thought that was like the whole reason we were against the left. They're not going to force you to get up there and make ritual denunciations because this isn't my religion, it's politics. By the way, your politics do not trump my love for other people.

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• 25:35Tucker Carlson?

  being like, "Will you denounce your brother?" I said, "Son, if my brother went on a drug-related murder spree, I would not denounce him." "What? Are you for drug-related murder sprees?" "No, I'm for my brother."

• 25:51Tucker Carlson?

  "And nothing will ever make me not for my brother." Now, I'd probably tell him, "No more drug-related murder sprees for you. I'm not for that. I'm not for a lot of things, actually. But I will never, ever denounce people I love to satisfy the mob, right?"

• 26:13Tucker Carlson?

  It's crazy.

• 26:17Tucker Carlson?

  So as you think through, like, what should this movement be? And what side should you take on the conservative civil war?

• 26:26Tucker Carlson?

  You already know the answer: you're on the side of America First. And if they can't tell you why it's America First, you just won the argument, because they don't have one. "Shut up Nazi" is no different from "Shut up racist." It's a little more annoying, actually.

• 26:42Tucker Carlson?

  And I would just say this, too, because the passion is real, the anger is real. I feel it sometimes. I try not to get involved, but somehow I keep involving myself. And I try not to read the internet, because I don't feel like it's good for my soul. But, you know, more addictive than cigarettes. I quit cigarettes, not Twitter.

• 27:03Tucker Carlson?

  I think I'm going back to cigarettes and giving up Twitter. Whatever, I don't want to burden you. Not kidding, actually. But anyway, the point is, you need to remember, if you're a Christian, and I think there are a lot of them in this room, that Jesus makes demands on you and holds standards for you that are very different from those, as my friend, close friend Russell Brand so beautifully explained, are very different from those of the world, which really is controlled by Satan. It's hard even to say that, because it's so dark, but it's also so true. So don't be surprised. When Jesus sends out the disciples, one of my favorite passages in the Holy Testament, when Jesus, in Matthew 10, sends the disciples out,

• 27:47Tucker Carlson?

  he's just picked them, like, 10 minutes before. He's like, "All right, I want you guys, road trip. No money, no clothes, no staff. And by the way, you're gonna get flogged. You're gonna get beaten with whips and arrested." I'm sure they're all thinking, like, "What? You know, I thought we were the winners here." And when that happens, like, "Don't worry about what you're gonna say. The Holy Spirit will speak for you." And I'm like, I just can't get over the blasé way in which he just tells them, "The world is gonna try and kill you." Which, by the way, it did. I think all of them end up getting killed. And that's just the baseline. We're promised that, it's a fact. You get up and give a speech about Jesus. You talk about Jesus. You try to live out his commands. You're gonna get attacked. Okay, we know that. Don't whine. Here's the pitfall. Here's the trap, is becoming hateful yourself.

• 28:31Tucker Carlson?

  And I sincerely believe that this is a spiritual battle. And I'm not saying everyone who disagrees with me is on the side of evil. I don't think that. I think I'm often wrong. I know that I am. Pero creo que fundamentalmente esto es luz contra la oscuridad, lo creo. Y la oscuridad está caracterizada por rabia y división y caos y confusión. Y la luz es, Dios es caracterizado por el opuesto de esas cosas. Y he notado esto, hay intentos de hacer a la gente odiar. Una de las razones por las que la gente grita insultos en tu cara es para provocar una reacción de ti y hacer que te odien a ellos. Quieren que te odien a ellos. Quieren que te conviertas en lo que te llaman.

• 29:15Tucker Carlson?

  ¿Por qué? Porque el mal se alimenta del odio, eso es por qué. Así que no participes en eso. Y la forma en que trato de mantenerme de la misma forma que dicen que soy es recordando que en el nivel más básico soy no mejor que mis perseguidores. Soy no mejor que mis perseguidores. Y es por eso que estoy ordenado de rezar por ellos. Porque todos hemos caído por menos de Jesús, punto. Y me recuerdo de eso todos los días en la estructura de la oración del Señor.

• 29:50Tucker Carlson?

  Donde primero nos dicen por Jesús que pedimos perdón por nuestros pecados antes de empezar a diagnosticar el plante en nuestros vecinos, o el hueco en nuestro lado vecino. Todo esto empieza con: "Soy un pobre muchacho pomposo, lo admito."

• 30:12Tucker Carlson?

  Eso es esencial, es esencial. Estamos llamados a ser justos, pero no autojustos. Y también estamos llamados, y tengo que decir esto antes de abrirlo a tus preguntas hostiles, también debemos estar muy atentos contra las personas que tratan de aprovechar la palabra de Dios, las palabras de Jesús, para fines políticos. Eso es una, eso es una cosa peligrosa de hacer. I don't want to do that. And I attempt every time. This is all sort of new to me. I'm so obviously not a great Christian that it's... It's not like a lot of people are gonna be like, "Oh, I want to be like him." But there are people, particularly Christian ministers, I have noticed,

• 30:57Tucker Carlson?

  who are preaching a political message and pretending that it's the gospel. So let me just say, and I think my theology is right, I'm hardly a theologian. God is not on any country's side. Certain countries can decide to be on God's side. And that is true for people too. Okay? God doesn't have a partisan affiliation, he doesn't have a nationality. And if someone is telling you otherwise, that is just not true. It is not true. And I would also call your attention to the very obvious prohibitions in the New Testament against killing the innocent.

• 31:42Tucker Carlson?

  We are not, as Christians, allowed to kill the innocent. Period. We are not. And you see elaborate arguments on behalf of doing so, or ignoring it, "Oh, that always happens in war." Well, you're right, one of the reasons I'm not that into wars. But when it does happen, unavoidably, we have to say, "That's wrong." We have to say that. We have to acknowledge, "That was wrong." And I'm sorry for the extent to which I participated in it. Forgive me. Because killing people who committed no crime is immoral. It will always be immoral. And people who do it will be punished for it. And nations that endorse it will be punished for it.

• 32:26Tucker Carlson?

  That's a fact. And you are seeing now... You are seeing now a very intense effort to convince you otherwise. "Oh, it's fine. They deserved it." Really? Do their children deserve it? If a man commits a crime, do we kill his kids? I don't care if it's in Minneapolis or Gaza City. No, we don't. And if we do accidentally, we say, "I am so sorry that we murdered someone who did nothing wrong," because it is murder. And to see Christian pastors make excuses for that is one of the most... And that's not a partisan question. That is not a political question. That is the only question that matters. Do we have the right to murder people?

• 33:11Tucker Carlson?

  And the resounding answer that Christianity provides us is: no.

• 33:19Tucker Carlson?

  I don't get into the whole debate, you know, disp... I don't even... I didn't even know the terms. Dispensationalist, you know, or whatever. Replacement... I'm an Episcopalian, okay? I don't enter these debates. Or was.

• 33:32Tucker Carlson?

  My theology is super simple. I like the Beatitudes. Read them yesterday. I actually think, was it Michael, reading them, some of them here? I think any person, any honest person would say it's the essence of the Christian faith. And killing tens of thousands of children and then making excuses for it on behalf of a foreign government is not in there. It's antithetical to that.

• 33:56Tucker Carlson?

  Sorry. It doesn't make me a hater, it makes me the opponent of hate.

• 34:02Tucker Carlson?

  So now that I've alienated most in the crowd with my staunch position against violence, and power worship, and money worship, which are also prohibited, and we should also keep that in mind, and in all of us is the desire to suck up to power and accumulate money we don't need. We're not allowed to. Sorry. Um, anyway, now that I've made everyone mad, are there any questions that I can answer?

• 34:30Tucker Carlson?

  Yes! Shout it, baby, I'll hear it.

• 34:35Tucker Carlson?

  We've, we've got questions over here. Hold on, one, one sec. I, I just called this lady up front.

• 34:51Tucker Carlson?

  La pregunta era: ¿Qué haces si eres un republicano conservador? Y supongo que otros republicanos no te quieren porque eres un cristiano aprobado. Bueno, primero te sientas y piensas: ¿Cuán sucio se ha vuelto todo esto? Si no puedes decir que eres cristiano en un grupo conservador, si no puedes decir: "Me incomoda que los tipos se casen unos con otros", o lo que sea, aborto, o las cosas prohibidas por nuestra religión, si no puedes decir eso en un grupo conservador, no es un grupo conservador, es algo más.

• 35:27Speaker 04

  Mi nombre es Madison y tengo 12 años. Cuando tenga más edad, quiero ser una política. Soy cristiana. Y estaba preguntando qué pasos debería tomar para...

• 35:37Tucker Carlson?

  Lo siento mucho, no puedo escuchar una palabra que estés diciendo. Escucho a dos de ustedes al menos.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  Mi nombre es Madison y tengo 12 años. Quiero ser una política. Y estaba preguntando qué pasos debería tomar para perseguir esa carrera.

• 35:57Tucker Carlson?

  Muchas gracias. He oído que tienes 12 años. Y gracias por hacer esa pregunta. Creo que dijiste: "Quiero ser una política. ¿Qué pasos debería tomar?"

• 36:07Speaker 04

  Sí.

• 36:08Tucker Carlson?

  Perfecto. Bueno, la oración sería la primera. ¿Realmente quiere eso para ti? Te pareces muy bueno. Lo siento, solo estás bromeando.

• 36:19Tucker Carlson?

  Sabes, creo que estamos entrando en una, obviamente, una época volátil. Como que hay mucho pasando. Ni siquiera puedo seguirlo, y es mi trabajo. Pero también siento que las personas que están diciendo la verdad o intentando, y es lo mejor que puedes hacer es intentar. Dije algo ayer en público que era totalmente incorrecto, completamente incorrecto. Y odio hacer eso, pero fue sincero. Pensé que era correcto. Dije, ya sabes, lo siento. Siento que las personas que intentan decir la verdad están recompensadas por ello, porque han habido demasiadas mentiras. Así que mi consejo final, podría darte otros consejos dudosos, pero mi único consejo real es: siempre dile la verdad. Y si pierdes, está bien.

• 37:06Speaker 04

  Hi, Mr. Carlson. I am Beau. And my name is Annabelle. And we were wondering... What you and your wife...

• 37:21Tucker Carlson?

  You were wondering what I do where?

• 37:23Speaker 04

  What you and your wife, um, do to strengthen your faith.

• 37:30Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, what I do to strengthen my faith? I'm always embarrassed to talk about my faith because it's so not impressive, but, um, honestly, the main thing I do is I read the Bible every day, which I really enjoy. And I read a version of it called the N L T. And I'm not, you know, fluent in Aramaic or Greek or Hebrew, so I can't tell you that it's the best, but it has the clearest English. And as a writer and editor, I just love clear English. And I just think it's amazing. And it's just opened up all this stuff that I thought was opaque. And I wake up every morning really early and I drink coffee with my dogs and I read it by myself. And then my wife comes down and we like talk about it. That's kind of it, but I love it.

• 38:15Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, and we do.

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, commonly known as AIPAC, is them being in America and not registered with Thera like all other lobbying groups in America? Is that America first? Is it America first for senators, Congress, and even our president to take money from AIPAC?

• 38:55Tucker Carlson?

  ¿Es primero Estados Unidos para tomar dinero de un lobby extranjero para enviar dólares de contribuyente a ese país?

• 39:03Tucker Carlson?

  Ya sabes, incluso la pregunta se responde por sí misma. Obviamente, no lo es. Y eso no es un ataque a Israel. Ciertamente, no es antisemitismo, a pesar de los esfuerzos de muchos para afirmar que lo es. Es solo una declaración obvia. Y el hecho de que la gente sea atacada por hacer la pregunta... Esto es algo de lo que hablo mucho con Charlie en sus meses últimos, porque él estaba siendo atacado como antisemite por hacer esa pregunta. Y tenemos memoria de eso, pero yo estaba allí, así que lo vi. Eso no es la forma correcta. No ataque los motivos de la gente. Y yo tengo mucho para atacar los motivos de la gente. Estoy tratando de recordarme: ¡No hagas eso! Responde a lo que dicen. ¿Verdad?

• 39:48Tucker Carlson?

  Y así... ¡No, por supuesto que no! Y es totalmente bueno preguntar por qué un gobierno extranjero trató de desmoronar uno de nuestros barcos en 1967. Eso no te convierte en antisemite, perdón. Esos fueron los estadounidenses que mueron.

• 40:04Tucker Carlson?

  Y por cierto, sí, lo que sea. De todos modos, pero el punto es... ¡No, por supuesto que no! Y es por eso que no tendrán la conversación. Y mi punto es, ya sabes, tengo 56 años, mis hijos han ido. Yo simplemente no tengo miedo de ti en absoluto. No te odio ni a nadie más. Me encanta este país, voy a estar aquí hasta que muerda. Tengo el derecho absoluto, dado por Dios, a hacer estas preguntas. Y voy a seguir haciéndolo, punto. Y puedes dispararme o ponerme en la cárcel, pero las preguntas no se van a desvanecer. Así que, ¡no, por supuesto que no! Y es por eso que responden con rabia y vergüenza, porque te atraparon haciendo algo que no puedes defender. ¿Duh?

• 40:49Speaker 06

  Hey Tucker, how you doing? Thanks for taking questions. My name is Michael Lasher, and I've come here from Munich, Germany, to introduce you and others to my book, "The Same Boat: A Guide to Heal the Divide." And it addresses the cold civil war that's got us so split, and the goal of it is actually to shift the symmetry of the bell curve distribution of the political spectrum from what we had at the end of the 2024 election: 52% Trump, 48% Kamala Harris,

• 41:34Speaker 06

  when everybody in this room thinks it should have been at least 75-25. So we have a cold civil war going on, and I want to ask you what you think we should be doing to try to solve it.

• 41:45Tucker Carlson?

  I'll tell you.

• 41:47Speaker 06

  I created this communications tool to help bridge the divide, to argue our case for those with whom we can no longer have rational political discussion.

• 41:57Tucker Carlson?

  It's a variation of what I said before, but I couldn't mean it more fervently. Orient the Republican Party around the single most popular and true message ever articulated by an American politician, which is: "Put your own country first." That's why Trump got elected. In 2016, he was vice president now. America first. And don't think of everything in narrow partisan terms. That's a trap. Most people agree with that. Most Americans have more in common with each other than they disagree on. And almost everybody agrees on that. And almost everybody is willing to tolerate a good-faith argument

• 42:42Tucker Carlson?

  about how to get there, except a few. And they're the ones running around calling everyone an anti-zemite. But everyone else is like, "Yeah, of course, that should be the debate." And they'll vote for you. They want that, because they know they haven't had that. That's the fact. And what you're watching now? Attacking people on the... Attacking millions of Americans because they're Muslims? It's disgusting! And I'm a Christian. I am not a Muslim. I know there's a lot of effort to claim I'm a secret jihadi. I'm not. You should not attack people on those grounds. And you're seeing it from Republicans. What the hell are you doing? What you're doing is trying to divide the country. And I've lived through 50 years of this crap. All these fake race wars that they're always promoting. "Oh, go hate each other while we loot the treasury."

• 43:26Tucker Carlson?

  That's exactly what's going on. And most people are totally sick of that. So, yes, there is a possibility for a huge coalition of decent people, once they free their minds from the traps set for them by others, and realize, "Wait a second, we all want to make this country better." And the 15% or 30% who don't, okay. You know, good luck in Maryland or wherever you wind up. But the rest of us would like to fix it.

• 43:55Speaker 07

  Tucker. My name's Harrison Tinsley. I'm a single dad in California. Didn't get to meet him until he was 15 months old, just because I'm conservative. One-half custody, his mom tried the trans. Long story short, I have full custody now. And it's a dream come true. Thank you. But it's a miracle, and praise God, because I know so many dads that all have zero custody because of this. So, Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill, Protect Children Innocence Act, just passed the House. Can we pass it in the Senate? And finally, end this gender insanity mutilating, hurting kids? And will you interview me?

• 44:30Tucker Carlson?

  The last part, pull your face back from the microphone, so I can hear you.

• 44:33Speaker 07

  And will you interview me?

• 44:35Tucker Carlson?

  Am I going to interview detransitioned people? Is that the question?

• 44:39Speaker 07

  No, no, me as a dad. And can we finally stop the mutilation of children with Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill?

• 44:47Tucker Carlson?

  Okay, I'm just going to say, when I was a child, we did a lot of bird hunting. And my father would always say, my brother and me, he'd say, "Pop, you know, everyone wears earplugs." And he would just say, "Pull the filter off your Marlboro and stick it in your opposite ear." And that's actually, at 56, made it really hard for me to hear microphone questions. So, you asked, and I'll just answer this and stop. You asked about Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill to ban the mutilation of children, which for some reason seems to have a lot of trouble getting through the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Republicans. And if there's ever a clearer example of whose side they're on, I can't think of it. Because at least on some of the foreign policy stuff, they can tell you,

• 45:32Tucker Carlson?

  "No, no, no, we have to be at war with Russia because Putin's bad. He's just bad. He's bad." Okay, got it. "We have to kill all the kids in Gaza because otherwise the Gazans will come here and kill us." Okay. What's the potential excuse for allowing the sexual mutilation of children? At that point, I'm like, you know, I don't want to question people's motives, but I'm starting to wonder. And I do think it just gets back to you have to demand more from your members of Congress, from your leaders more broadly. You're not allowed to sell us out again because if you keep doing that, people get radical and hateful. And then they get desperate because they realize their vote doesn't matter.

• 46:17Tucker Carlson?

  And that's when things start to go sideways in a way that nobody wants. So yeah, if you can't even ban the castration of children, I hope there is a list, and I've been traveling today, but I hope on the internet there's a list of everyone who voted against that effort. And I hope that they are punished for it. I mean, they will be ultimately, but I hope they're punished in this life. Anyway, thank you very much.

• 46:48Tucker Carlson?

  Well, some Americans have become cut off from the things that once kept us grounded, our land, the skills that tied our families to nature. Told you he was getting his next spot. And to remind us, we made a new six-part series, "American Game: Tales from the Wild." We follow the sportsmen who are keeping these ancient traditions alive. We follow a former Navy SEAL into the mountains of Texas, Donald Trump Jr. across the ridges of Lanai. That's what we call from going from zero to hero. And wander with me through the quiet woods of Maine. I have just three dog commands. And then, as I direct the dogs, "Find the bird." "Find the bird." And then "dead bird," obviously, which I don't use as much as I'd like to.

• 47:28Tucker Carlson?

  We cast for Steelhead on the Deschutes River in Oregon. That's the first one I've caught in a while. Tracked mule deer in the Utah high country. Spearfish in the waters off Montauk. Chasing striped bass and bluefin tuna. See you on the other side. It's called American Game: Tales from the Wild Outdoor Series. Watch it at TuckerCarlson.com.