Ep. 952: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCXL

Mark Kenyon guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Janis Putelis, Randall Williams, Cory Calkins, Omar Lopez, and Laura Mascari. Presented by Busch Light Connect with MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAaa0mleeU128Ad5iM1RFIg, and YouTube Clips https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterClips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Shop Trivia Merch https://store.themeateater.com/collections/meateater-trivia/?lang=en_US See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:04Steven Rinella?

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• 2:47Speaker 02

  Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I am your special guest host, Mark Kenyon, and this week I am joined by Randall, Yannis, Omar, Spencer, Laura, and Corey. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eater's four main verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. And there's a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. Meat Eater Trivia, yeah, pretty incredible, huh Spencer?

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Can I already ask you a question?

• 3:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure.

• 3:20Speaker 03

  How did you get to be the special guest host?

• 3:23Speaker 02

  I wrote the script.

• 3:24Speaker 04

  You put that in the script. Yeah, that's how you become the special. So that means the next-

• 3:29Speaker 03

  I did a poor job of introducing myself.

• 3:31Speaker 04

  Brody needs to be special, special.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Super special.

• 3:35Speaker 04

  Go on, go on, Mark.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  The show is brought to you by one of our favorite beers, Spencer. That is Busch Light.

• 3:41Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:42Speaker 02

  Busch Light, head for the mountains.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  We're to kick off today's episode right, we're going to get right into it. We got a great mailbag question for you today. And if you, a listener, have a question you want us, the trivia crew, to answer, you can send your question over to the, where do you send to? trivia@themeat eater.com with the subject line, mailbag. All right? So you guys ready for the mailbag question?

• 4:05Speaker 04

  Yes, please.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  It is from Jace. Jace is from Wisconsin, and he says, I quote, "On my commute to and from the office, there's a really convenient piece of public that e-scouting has produced some promising whitetail signs. The problem? There's a river that runs between the parking and the promising spots and limits access to 2/3 of the parcel. This river is a true river. On average, it flows with a depth of 6 feet and is pretty wide. According to Onyx, it measures more than 20 yards across. If I was 10 feet tall, I'd buy a pair of waders, but at 6 feet, I would need a snorkel and be soaked. Any suggestions on how to cross this while staying reasonably dry and warm? What would you do, Laura?"

• 4:46Speaker 05

  Ooh, multi-sport day. Today, you're going to go hunting, fishing, and floating with either a canoe, a kayak, or a packraft.

• 4:54Speaker 06

  Or a paddleboard.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Damn, nailed it.

• 4:57Speaker 05

  You could sup it up, yeah.

• 4:58Speaker 06

  There's some other things that come to mind.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Oh, paragliding.

• 5:02Speaker 04

  Please, share.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Zip line.

• 5:04Speaker 06

  Truck tire tubes, just float across. We also-

• 5:09Speaker 03

  That's a way to get soaking wet, though. He said he didn't want to get wet.

• 5:12Speaker 06

  Oh, he said he didn't want to get wet. The other idea I had was a life jacket.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:16Speaker 06

  And just jump in.

• 5:18Speaker 04

  See where you go. What would the host of Wired to Hunt do?

• 5:21Speaker 02

  I would have just bought like, I brought a canoe. I love the packraft idea. I don't own a packraft, but I've often said that it's worth the investment for this kind of thing.

• 5:31Speaker 06

  A zip line?

• 5:32Speaker 02

  I have a friend who owns a piece of land in Iowa who has threatened to put in a zip line to a special stand location for years.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  I think the big thing here is that the fellow shouldn't take this as like, as a bad thing. If he's got a sweet spot that has this

• 5:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  extra hurdle, a lot of lazy folks aren't going to go and hunt there, and he should be excited about having this spot.

• 5:53Speaker 06

  Get some used watercraft.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 04

  I, I bought a foldable kayak a couple of years ago, and I'm a huge fan. It breaks down to be the size of like a suitcase. And so even if this dude like drives a car, it can fit in the trunk of his car real easy. It's the kind of thing that he could leave, like hide it under a bush somewhere on the bank. If he's planning to, you know, hunt all week, the first week in November, I think a foldable kayak would be perfect for this job.

• 6:17Speaker 05

  Is that like that origami style?

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 6:19Speaker 06

  Oru or something like that?

• 6:20Speaker 04

  Oru is the main brand. That's, that's the one I have. You can get them for like less than $300 if you wait for, you know, Black Friday, Memorial Day sale, whatever. It seems like the, the job that he needs to accomplish, that's like the tool for it.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Great idea.

• 6:35Speaker 06

  A friend of ours, her dad bought a, a prefabricated bridge on the internet.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, BYOB.

• 6:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Bring your own bridge.

• 6:44Speaker 06

  That's another option.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  Can only imagine how much that costs.

• 6:47Speaker 06

  I don't know. Doesn't seem very well-built.

• 6:49Speaker 02

  No.

• 6:50Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 6:51Speaker 06

  I've got a buddy-

• 6:51Speaker 04

  Delivery fees are a beast, though.

• 6:53Speaker 06

  Who retrieved his bull elk using a paddleboard. And I think

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 6:57Speaker 06

  he could do that with his whitetail.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  That's sweet.

• 7:00Speaker 04

  That looks like stagnant water to me. This dude's talking about crossing a river.

• 7:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, a river runs through it.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  Just angled, angled a little.

• 7:06Speaker 06

  You can take a paddleboard down a river.

• 7:08Speaker 03

  He wants to stay dry.

• 7:09Speaker 06

  Rope swing.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  You can stay dry on a paddleboard.

• 7:11Speaker 05

  Hot air balloon.

• 7:12Speaker 06

  Hang wider.

• 7:12Speaker 03

  Learn long jumping.

• 7:14Speaker 02

  Moral, moral of the story, Jace, is that there are many options at your disposal. And I would view this, like you said, Randall, or Yanni, I would view this as a feature, not a bug.

• 7:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 7:23Speaker 02

  Like, this is a good thing.

• 7:23Speaker 04

  Good idea.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Because that's going to be harder for people to get there. So, today's episode, there's no Shelby index, of course, or, or Kylie index in this case with my wife.

• 7:34Speaker 03

  Why not?

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Well, because I've been gone all of the last week on various hunting and, and other work trips. And so if I were to ask my wife for a favor right now, I would probably get kicked. So she was not going to be doing this.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  She wouldn't look at this as something fun to do after dinner.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  No, and she's also, she's sick and one of my kids is sick. So no.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  No index.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  No Kylie index.

• 7:54Speaker 04

  So you guys, take a guess. How would she do, you think?

• 7:58Speaker 02

  She would do great. Yeah.

• 7:59Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  She would do great.

• 8:00Speaker 04

  Good as anybody.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  I almost, I almost got the wrong one there.

• 8:05Speaker 06

  She knows it all.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  But I will tell you, I was told I was too hard last time around, so I tried to be easier.

• 8:11Speaker 06

  I like that.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  But I do think that the first question, people will think that's not the case. So.

• 8:18Speaker 06

  So listen past the first question, everybody.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  It's going to get better.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  Mark promises.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  I promise. So Phil, hit the drop.

• 8:28Speaker 07

  Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? You stand to win everything.

• 8:42Speaker 05

  Game on, suckers.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  All right, so question number one, and this is our listener question of the day, right out the gate. It's a special listener question of the day because I actually got to spend time with this listener just a couple of days ago. And he brought me a little something which will be part of this question.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  So our special listener today is John Stewart. The topic for this first question is natural history.

• 9:09Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Natural history, it's a multiple choice question. Here we go.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  You gonna put it up on the screen?

• 9:16Speaker 03

  I usually wait until Spencer starts reading the question and then I do a really cool transition that only the YouTube audience sees.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, well then we're just gonna go with it.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  No matter how this mineral sample is shattered or broken, and I'm holding this piece of mineral in my hand right now, if you were watching on camera. No matter how this is shattered or broken, it will naturally split into smaller slanted rhombus shapes. Is it A, muscovite, B, calcite, C, quartz, or D, gypsum? And for those who are listening and can't see this, it is a four-sided shiny, kinda crystalline.

• 9:56Speaker 04

  Let me lick that thing.

• 9:57Speaker 02

  You may not lick this.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  Can we hand it down here?

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 10:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  Hand it down. Be very careful, this is a special sample, I'll tell you more about it soon.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  I'll read this again. No matter how this mineral is shattered or broken, so you could say rock mineral.

• 10:15Speaker 04

  No.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  It will naturally split into smaller slanted rhombus shapes. What is it?

• 10:24Speaker 03

  I know one, I know one up there that it's not.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Muscovite, calcite, quartz, or gypsum?

• 10:33Speaker 02

  In this, well, no clues, sorry, no clues.

• 10:35Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Spencer, do you feel confident?

• 10:39Speaker 04

  No.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  This was your.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  I wish I did.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  This was your softball.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  I know, this is the category with Spencer, and I don't think I'm gonna get it.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  So when Yanni hosted, all of his questions were softballs of Brody.

• 10:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  And I thought that it would be polite to give the usual host the softball.

• 10:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, thank you.

• 10:54Speaker 05

  I don't think that's polite, but.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  I'm trying to help out my buddy Spencer. Yeah, so no matter how you break this sucker, it will always break into something similar to this, a rhombus type shape.

• 11:06Speaker 06

  Ah, give me a hammer.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did ask, nobody tests that theory.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  Cause this came all the way from a very exotic location.

• 11:17Speaker 06

  Oh, it's exotic.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Hmm, not to change my answer.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Not necessarily, that just happens to be that where this one is.

• 11:24Speaker 06

  How locally exotic was it?

• 11:26Speaker 02

  So, does anybody have an answer that they're ready to go with? How are we doing here?

• 11:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  I'll stick with it, what the heck.

• 11:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, same.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  Okay, everybody good? All right, Randall says muscovite, Yannis is quartz, Omar quartz, Spencer gypsum, Laura quartz, Corey quartz. The correct answer is calcite.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Zero percent.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  This is calcite, starting with a zero percenter.

• 11:54Speaker 03

  Anybody's game.

• 11:55Speaker 02

  So, if anyone was paying attention to our auction house of oddities this summer, we auctioned off a truck, Steve's dad's shitty old truck, full of badass hunting gear. The winner of that truck is John Stewart. And I delivered him that truck this past weekend. And so in our conversations, he said, hey, I've got this question that I've always wanted you guys to ask, and I will give you the sample to take to the shelf. So calcite, interestingly relevant to us that hunt and do stuff with optics, calcite has perfect rhombohedral cleavage resulting in this distinct slanted cube appearance. Due to its ability to split light into two rays, transparent calcite, such as this piece of Iceland spar,

• 12:37Speaker 02

  was once a critical natural component in early scientific and optical instruments like microscopes, telescopes, and maybe even early gun sights.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  So, pretty interesting stuff, little piece of calcite right here for you.

• 12:52Speaker 03

  What a little present that was for you. Last weekend, you're probably in the hot seat, you don't have all your questions written out, and you roll over there and this guy's like, hey, here's everything you need for a great trivia question.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  It was a wonderful gift that I very much appreciated.

• 13:07Speaker 04

  Should've let me lick it.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Uh huh, sorry buddy. Question number two, the topic is hunting. In the iconic hunting themed song titled Fred Bear, performed by Ted Nugent, name one of the animal species that Fred Bear claims will cleanse the soul if you tangle with it.

• 13:29Speaker 06

  Man, I can only remember the chorus right now.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  All right, iconic hunting themed song called Fred Bear, has everybody heard the song?

• 13:37Speaker 05

  Sure.

• 13:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  All right.

• 13:40Speaker 06

  Laura, have you heard it?

• 13:41Speaker 05

  Uh uh.

• 13:42Speaker 06

  No?

• 13:42Speaker 04

  Ah, sorry Laura.

• 13:43Speaker 06

  It's all right.

• 13:43Speaker 05

  This is not my game.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Name one of the animals that Fred Bear claims will cleanse the soul if you tangle with it.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  We were driving the kids to school this morning, and without me prompting at all, this song was requested by my son. That was perfect timing. We just saw some nice whitetail bucks in a field, and Everett's like, damn, this is a Fred Bear.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  Is that a hint there?

• 14:13Speaker 03

  I don't think my kids have ever heard that song, I'll have to play that for Mabel on the way home.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  You should.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  Classic.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  It's a part of our like hunting season rotation with the kids, they like Fred Bear, they like the turdy point buck.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  Hunting, fishing, loving every day.

• 14:34Speaker 05

  Classic.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Buck fever. It's a little bit more.

• 14:37Speaker 04

  I don't know buck fever.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Deep cut. There's an album that Rhett Atkins and some guys from like the Realtree crew put together, Michael Waddell, it was like a bone collector album or something. It's actually a good song.

• 14:51Speaker 06

  What about Nuck If You Buck?

• 14:55Speaker 02

  The kids haven't heard that one yet. All right, are we all set here guys?

• 14:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  All right, Randall. Says grizzly bear, Yannis grizzly, Omar grizzly, Spencer whitetail, Laura whitetail, Corey whitetail.

• 15:07Speaker 06

  That's funny, huh?

• 15:08Speaker 02

  Acceptable, acceptable answers are grizzly bear, polar bear, brown bear.

• 15:13Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  Fred Bear, the song was included on Ted Nugent's Spirit of the Wild album, which he released in 1995. It's of course an ode to Fred Bear, the famous bow hunter and bow maker. At the very end of that song, about seven plus minutes in, you hear an actual recording of Fred. And what he says in full, quote, he says, if some of our teenage thrill seekers really wanna go out and get a thrill, let them go up into the northwest and tangle with the grizzly bear, the polar bear, and the brown bear, it'll cleanse the soul.

• 15:44Speaker 06

  Yeah, you wouldn't tangle with a whitetail.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  That's just gonna cause anxiety, it's not gonna cleanse the soul.

• 15:52Speaker 05

  If he wanted to, he would.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Question number three, the topic is wildlife. This North American bird, believed to be extinct since the mid 20th century, but still rumored to exist in places like Louisiana and Arkansas, is known as the Lord God Bird. What is it?

• 16:18Speaker 03

  The reason I started waiting until Spencer start, would read the question before I'd switch to the next slide is because a lot of the times I would switch to it, Spencer would say like, question six, I'd switch to it, and then Steve would be like, you know, and then he'd jump in, and then the question would be on the screen, and everyone would read it, and I'd have to jump back. Which is, it's not much of a problem now that Steve quit the company and doesn't play trivia anymore.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  Here's the question again, this North American bird, believed to be extinct since the mid 20th century, but still rumored to exist in places like Louisiana and Arkansas, is known as the Lord God Bird. Anybody know this, like for sure?

• 16:56Speaker 03

  I think I do.

• 16:57Speaker 06

  I do.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  I feel better about my answer now. I'm looking at Yannis's.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  All right, well, all the answers in?

• 17:04Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 17:05Speaker 02

  Randall?

• 17:05Speaker 06

  Yes, sir.

• 17:07Speaker 02

  We've got the ivory billed woodpecker from Randall, Yannis is the ivory, Omar's is the dodo, Spencer's got the ivory bill, Laura's got the passenger pigeon, Corey's got the ivory billed woodpecker. The correct answer is ivory billed woodpecker. That is the largest woodpecker species north of Mexico, the third largest in the world. And it was just kinda wildly, widely marveled at by many people, including actually Theodore Roosevelt. When he was on a hunting trip down in Louisiana, I think on that bear hunting trip, he wrote about how impressive this bird was, but widespread destruction of their old growth forest habitat caused massive population declines in the 1800s, with many thinking they are extinct by, like I said, the middle of the 20th century.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  But in 2004, a kayaker in Arkansas saw what he believed to be an ivory bill in a cypress swamp. And this kicked off this mad frenzy of scientists and naturalists hunting for the remaining members of this species. The teams searched more than 523,000 acres across eight different states. Many still believe that it is out there, but there was never definitive evidence found.

• 18:19Speaker 05

  Maybe they saw Sasquatch instead.

• 18:22Speaker 04

  I think that name was because when people would see them, they were so stunned, they'd be like, my lord, good god. That was how they got that name.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 18:31Speaker 06

  This is an episode of the Gunfighters?

• 18:34Speaker 02

  You damn son of a bitch.

• 18:36Speaker 04

  My lord.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  You guys have all seen piliated woodpeckers?

• 18:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  So this is supposedly that on steroids. So that would've been.

• 18:46Speaker 04

  Bird. Lot of meat on them.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Probably right. Speaking of meat, I ate woodchuck when I visited the listener question submitter John, he had me woodchuck nuggets.

• 18:57Speaker 04

  Damn.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  He was showing off. Yeah. Very good. Has anybody eaten woodchuck?

• 19:02Speaker 06

  No.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  Chuck nuggets. That was how he like teased the trip as I was coming, you know, planning it out, he's like, you, you're gonna, you're gonna really wanna get here, we're gonna eat chuck nuggets.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  Mark had a heavy foot after that.

• 19:16Speaker 06

  Did you dip them in anything?

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Huh?

• 19:18Speaker 06

  Did you dip them in anything?

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Uh, we had like sriracha, some kinda like Chick-fil-A sauce, some stuff like that. It was great. Uh, and that's a perfect segue into the next question, question number four, the topic is cooking.

• 19:32Speaker 06

  All right, ketchup.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  God, that was good, that was a great segue.

• 19:35Speaker 04

  Well done.

• 19:36Speaker 06

  What plan?

• 19:37Speaker 02

  What is, what is the popularly used name for a meal of fish to be cooked and eaten on land immediately after leaving the water? Which is also the name of a breading and batter mix brand.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  What do you call a meal of fish to be cooked and eaten immediately upon leaving the water? What would you call it? And it's also the name of a brand.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  Man, I'm gonna go my gut from this one. I've never had a proper blank.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  No?

• 20:10Speaker 03

  But I have used the batter, which I enjoy. I've never actually had a proper.

• 20:16Speaker 06

  Oh, I had Jay Siemens feed me three of these in a row.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  I know, I feel like I should go up there just to have one of these with Jay.

• 20:22Speaker 06

  Boy, that was heaven on earth.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  This is good stuff.

• 20:25Speaker 06

  On dry land.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. This is really good stuff.

• 20:27Speaker 04

  This is a good question.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  Does everybody have an answer or Lori still?

• 20:30Speaker 03

  I know, he's got a couple of questions already that I'm surprised that we haven't had. Just shows you, the world of hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking trivia is.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  Big.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  Rich. Endless.

• 20:42Speaker 04

  Mark Kenyon's always asking me how long I'm gonna do this podcast for, and I tell him till we run out of questions.

• 20:47Speaker 06

  Or until you forget the ones that you've asked.

• 20:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 06

  Senile.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Lori?

• 20:56Speaker 05

  No.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  You're gonna toss the towel?

• 20:58Speaker 05

  I can't.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Alright, let's see what you guys got. Randall says shore lunch, Yanni shore lunch, Omar catch and cook, Spencer shore lunch, Laura's got nothing, and Corey says catch and cook. The correct answer is shore lunch.

• 21:10Speaker 04

  Ah.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Sorry, guys. And shore lunch, as far as I'm concerned, is the best part of any catch and kill fishing trip. Uh, this is a huge part of my upbringing as far as our walleye and pike fishing trips up in northern Michigan in Canada. We'd go up there for a week and every day have shore lunch. And as many folks do, we'd fish all morning, we'd catch a mess of walleye, pull off at a rocky island, heat up some oil, and have the best fresh fish you could ever imagine. Now, our family was a Drake's batter family.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Uh, but of course, shore lunch is pretty popular.

• 21:46Speaker 04

  Shore lunch is like the Coca-Cola of fish batter.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:49Speaker 04

  It's just like if you walked, um, it's, it's just fine. It's good. It's not bad. It's like a Coca-Cola. If you walked into like a Cabela's and you wanted to buy fish batter, I think this would have the most real estate on the shelf.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, hold, hold on a second.

• 22:03Speaker 03

  Uh-oh.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  What about Jay Siemens brand catch and cook?

• 22:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, I was gonna say.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  I, I still feel like this is the most popular ubiquitous term. It's not what I call it.

• 22:14Speaker 06

  I agree with you, Corey.

• 22:15Speaker 04

  Catch and cook is delicious.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:18Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 22:18Speaker 02

  But you could catch and cook anywhere. You could catch and cook, and I could do that back at home. This is on the water immediately. Con ending. Sorry, Corey. Well, yeah. Not gonna get it.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  God, I like Mark just sticking to his guns.

• 22:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:31Speaker 06

  Good for you.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Shore lunch.

• 22:32Speaker 06

  Find catch and cook wherever fish.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  You could have a sandwich.

• 22:36Speaker 06

  Seasonings are sold. Delicious.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  We had a shore lunch yesterday. There wasn't fish involved in that.

• 22:41Speaker 06

  That's true.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Question number five. Next. Keep her moving.

• 22:44Speaker 06

  Except that big fish I got over there.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  I'm giving myself a half a point.

• 22:46Speaker 06

  I need it.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  Uh, I'm gonna throw you another bone though, Corey. Maybe you got a chance here.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  The topic's fishing. I know.

• 22:51Speaker 04

  Fly fishing.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  Alright, but not fly fishing, sorry. Oh. Well, maybe. I guess I shouldn't say that. It's fishing.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  This revolutionary at the time bass fishing lure, first released in 1996, is made out of soft plastic, shaped like a Bic ballpoint pen, and typically has a unique side to side shimmying action as it drifts down through the water column.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  What is it? What year? 96? Oof, taking me back.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  What revolutionary bass fishing lure? Made out of soft plastic, looks like a Bic ballpoint pen, and slides side to side as it drifts down?

• 23:36Speaker 03

  Spencer?

• 23:37Speaker 04

  What?

• 23:37Speaker 03

  Do you know it?

• 23:38Speaker 04

  I think I, I would say I'm 75% chance.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  I will say this is.

• 23:45Speaker 04

  Don't help them.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  Ah, I feel like the midwestern folks, the southern folks would probably do better on this.

• 23:51Speaker 04

  Bass boy.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Is everybody Yannis?

• 23:56Speaker 03

  No, no, give me at least two minutes.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  At least one.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  Or Seth would need them.

• 24:01Speaker 04

  I think the pen was part of the production of this. They were like, I should turn that thing into a lure.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  Huh. I don't think I have the right answer.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  Everybody but Yanni is in? You guys already have an answer? Wow.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  Oh, Omar, no.

• 24:17Speaker 03

  Omar doesn't have one either.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Omar, can you think of any bass fishing lure? I can. Okay. Little Gary Yamamoto?

• 24:23Speaker 06

  You can only, you can only chew so long when your mouth is empty, you know? I just don't have a lot to go with here.

• 24:31Speaker 03

  Lori, you have an answer?

• 24:33Speaker 06

  I don't know, I just invented it. You know, I think.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  He's saying it again.

• 24:37Speaker 06

  I think he's still chewing on it. I'm like, I don't, nothing to chew here. Just go with what I know. Go with what you know.

• 24:43Speaker 03

  That's, that's almost as good as a fresh set of eyes always finds more beans. Shaped like a Bic ballpoint pen.

• 24:48Speaker 04

  No, I didn't, I didn't say that.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:52Speaker 04

  Forget I said that.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  It's a soft plastic. You know what that is, right? In the bass fishing game?

• 24:57Speaker 06

  Are you being pedantic?

• 25:00Speaker 03

  What are you, I, I don't know what that word means. I'm just trying to figure out. I'm just trying to figure out what, uh,

• 25:08Speaker 03

  what does that mean, Randall?

• 25:09Speaker 06

  I was asking Mark.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  You're looking over.

• 25:12Speaker 06

  While looking at Yannis?

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yes. I know what that is, Mark.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh. I'll write something down.

• 25:22Speaker 06

  Phil, give.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  This was a

• 25:26Speaker 02

  all-time favorite of mine's answer.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Really? See, I was kinda still bass fishing in 96.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 25:34Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. A little bit.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Your heyday. Yeah, they used this where you grew up, for sure.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  I'm sure. Yeah, my neighbor Kevin Van Dam probably slamming them with this lure.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  The pride of, uh, Kalamazoo, right?

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 25:48Speaker 04

  And Derek Jeter. They produce two great Americans.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  And good cereal.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  And now Yannis Patelis is added to that list.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Isn't Kellogg's there?

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  I have no idea.

• 26:00Speaker 03

  Battle Creek.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Battle Creek, sorry.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  Oh, Battle Creek, that's where Rob Van Dam is from, the best wrestler to ever bless the ring.

• 26:09Speaker 06

  What's the name of the minor league hockey team?

• 26:10Speaker 04

  Name some more Michigan places, I'll tell you who's from there.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  Flint.

• 26:13Speaker 06

  K-Wings.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Alright, Yanni.

• 26:16Speaker 04

  Will Ferrell's character.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  Let's, let's, let's get something out there. What do you got? Randall says the Cinco, Yannis with the banjo, no. Omar, you get it. That's the Cinco. Spencer Cinco, Laura passed rubber leg.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  You said Gary Yamamoto.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Corey's butt jig.

• 26:29Speaker 06

  Oh, he's right there.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, Omar, when you said the Gary Yamamoto, I'm like, wow. Because that's who makes the Cinco.

• 26:35Speaker 06

  I had a.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  This is.

• 26:37Speaker 06

  Good era of bass fishing in me.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 26:39Speaker 06

  Since done.

• 26:40Speaker 02

  So the Cinco has been used for about 30 years now. It's one of the best-selling soft plastic lures of all time. And according to an article on Bassmaster.com, when Gary Yamamoto was designing this lure, he started with the basic profile of the Bic custom click pen, and then experimented with some different body lengths, thicknesses, and textures to get the lure to fall weightless at a very specific rate of speed that he wanted, while creating just the right amount of action. It's got this little kind of, the ends of the Bic pen on either side, just do this little jiggle as a kind of, like a pendulum swings down through the water.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Do you have a photo or, oh, there it is.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  There it is.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  Uh, he also wanted a formulation that bass would not just bite, but would hold on to. And so the answer to the hold on to dilemma was a high-density salt impregnation distributed evenly throughout the body of the lure. So there you go, there's a Cinco on the screen.

• 27:29Speaker 04

  Geez, you could take that to any bass lake in, in North America, and you'll catch something.

• 27:33Speaker 06

  Not Montana, when we had that little retreat thing, I fished that Cinco for like an hour.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Nothing.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  A lot of guys, that's your slump buster. Wacky rig a Cinco.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, so.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  Gonna catch you a bass.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  So a wacky rig would be taking your big hook and hooking it kind of right to the middle, and then that would be like a weightless wacky rig, or you could Texas rig it, which should be, you know, going through the top with a sliding bullet sinker on top. Weedless.

• 27:55Speaker 06

  We used to, uh, when we were in junior high, we used to sneak onto this pond where we weren't supposed to be, and the bass were just crazy, and I'd, I'd have a jitterbug, and then like 12 inches of line, and a Cinco just behind.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  Wow. Nobody has ever done that before.

• 28:11Speaker 06

  Just ripping it along the edges. I know.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  It's a good idea.

• 28:13Speaker 06

  I know. Riding some saltwater tactics, you know, and had a trailer hook.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  A pioneer.

• 28:18Speaker 02

  So did it crush?

• 28:19Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. Deadly.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  My bad.

• 28:21Speaker 06

  Wish I could still trespass without a guilty conscience.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Uh, Phil.

• 28:25Speaker 04

  Now you just don't feel guilty at all when you do it.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  Can we get a scoreboard update? I'd love to see where things stand.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  Oh. You gotta spread here.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 28:35Speaker 03

  Laura is not on the board as of yet. She has zero points. Corey has one.

• 28:39Speaker 02

  And a half.

• 28:40Speaker 03

  And a half.

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Oh, sure. Sure.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Catch and cook. Spencer, Yannis, and Omar tied up with three, and Randall's in first place with four points.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 28:50Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 28:54Speaker 06

  Let's keep going. Huh? Who thinks boys?

• 28:58Speaker 03

  Anybody's game, anybody's game.

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• 31:40Speaker 02

  All right, this one I feel like should be in the wheelhouse for a number of people. The topic is hunting. And I can't, I might've changed the question, Phil. I don't remember which version I gave you, so we're gonna find out.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Okay, cool.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  But according to the 2026 National Deer Association Deer Report. Okay, I made it easier on the screen, so I'll do that.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Okay, according to blah, blah, the deer report, name one of the top three states with the highest whitetail buck harvest for the 2024 hunting season. So this is the most recent data. What, give me one of the top three whitetail states for buck harvest. That's the question. I was originally gonna make you pick one of the top two, but I thought.

• 32:23Speaker 06

  This is better.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:26Speaker 02

  Thank you. You're welcome. One of the top three states for whitetail buck harvest according to the 2026 National Deer Association Deer Report.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  You guys feel pretty confident. Everybody's got an answer except for Spencer.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  I'm just trying to show off and write down all three. And then I just picked my actual answer.

• 32:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, I wondered about that. Is that allowed?

• 32:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 32:49Speaker 02

  Because what if you just wrote?

• 32:51Speaker 04

  I'm picking, I'm circling. You have to circle.

• 32:54Speaker 06

  He writes 32 states down.

• 32:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 32:57Speaker 03

  Steve will often do that, but that's just to show like if he is wrong, he's hoping that you can see that he was close. Like he almost got it.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Wants to get a little bit. Yeah. All right, let's see what you got. Please reveal. Randall says Texas, Yannis, Wisconsin. Omar says Iowa. Spencer says Wisconsin, but he's also throwing some show off moves there. Laura says Michigan and Corey says Wisconsin. Acceptable answers would be Texas, Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.

• 33:29Speaker 04

  Mark, tell people what I had here.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  You had all three Spencer through a perfect game right there.

• 33:34Speaker 06

  But you circled number three on the list.

• 33:36Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Uh, okay. So who do you think's number one?

• 33:42Speaker 04

  Everything's bigger.

• 33:43Speaker 02

  Wisconsin.

• 33:44Speaker 04

  And then PA and then Texas. That would be my guess.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  Okay, Wisconsin.

• 33:48Speaker 06

  Texas.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  Texas.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  I'm gonna go, yeah, Texas.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  Randall says Texas. Laura?

• 33:53Speaker 05

  Pennsylvania.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  Pennsylvania, Corey. All right, number one is Texas by orders of magnitude.

• 33:58Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Texas killed 425,529 bucks during that most recent year. The runners up Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and my home state of Michigan were all less than half of that total.

• 34:13Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. Texas also tops the charts for antlerless deer with 411,480 harvested. So they are killing a lot.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  Texas is also 10 times the size of those other states.

• 34:26Speaker 02

  Big place.

• 34:26Speaker 06

  That's, that factored into my calculus.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, the Element boys probably killed 100 of them deer in 2024.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Very well it could be. I wouldn't put it past them.

• 34:36Speaker 04

  When I drive to Texas to hunt, I, when I get to the Texas border, I'm like, damn, I'm only halfway there. That's how big that dumb state is. Not a dumb state, I love it. Too much driving through it though.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  I got another state question for you.

• 34:48Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 34:48Speaker 05

  Oh, great. Yay.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Number seven, the topic is conservation.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Which state is home to the largest animal crossing overpass in North America?

• 35:03Speaker 06

  Choices are.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Up to you, my friend.

• 35:06Speaker 05

  Three.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  What state is home to the largest animal crossing overpass? My kids call them wildlife bridges. They love it when we go underneath them.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  How many of your kids gone under? Hmm, they frequently go under two of them. Oh.

• 35:25Speaker 05

  Is it the largest?

• 35:27Speaker 02

  I can't tell you that.

• 35:30Speaker 06

  I hope it's not my home state. No, it won't be.

• 35:36Speaker 05

  Where'd you grow up?

• 35:36Speaker 02

  They don't care about wildlife.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  I saw a trail cam picture from one of these recently, but it was the inverse of it's like the under the interstate one that they do. And they would set up cameras and they're just like monitor who's using it or whatever. And there was somebody sleeping in there, probably like a unhoused person. And they had a bear walk through just like 10 yards from them and they didn't even acknowledge each other. The dude sleeping didn't wake up, bear didn't look at him and like, nobody would have had known that happened without that trail camera.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  That's amazing.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  They're talking about trying to put one of these, uh, heading up to Big Sky.

• 36:15Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. That's a massive, that's a massive area of wildlife collisions there.

• 36:20Speaker 05

  Canyon?

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Just before going in, I believe.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  There's also a big study, uh, heading down through Paradise Valley. They've been trying to find where to build some of these over or underpasses.

• 36:32Speaker 06

  I've got some suggestions.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:35Speaker 04

  I feel like these always have to be married, these have to be married with, uh, like, you know, big fences. And the, the drive to Big Sky doesn't seem like the place where you'd like put up a long big fence to, to funnel everybody to these overpasses.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  That is the downside of this is that you've got the fences. Does everybody have an answer?

• 36:52Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  All right, let's, uh, reveal.

• 36:54Speaker 06

  Go ahead and reveal your answer.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Randall says Wyoming, Yanni says California, Omar says Colorado, Spencer, Colorado, Laura, Wyoming, Corey, Michigan.

• 37:07Speaker 06

  Question mark.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  The correct answer is Colorado. Nicely done Omar. All right, so get this. Don't laugh at my answer. By one measure, an estimated one million to two million crashes between motor vehicles and large animals such as deer occur every year in the United States. One to two million every single year. Uh, and that accounts for approximately 200 human deaths and 26,000 injuries. And on the wildlife side of things, car collisions are now the single largest source of land-based vertebrate mortality in the nation.

• 37:43Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. That said, lots of momentum and research and progress on trying to, trying to deal with that. Lots of new projects such as this underway building route wildlife overpasses or underpasses as you were describing Spencer. That's exciting. This particular project in Colorado, uh, is a wildlife bridge that is 200 feet wide and 209 feet long, crossing six lanes of traffic. The bridge was completed in December 2025. You can see a picture of it right there on the screen. And it's part of a broader set of projects, uh, addressing wildlife crossings along an entire 18 mile long stretch of Interstate 25. And a recent report shows that since these new crossings were established, wildlife collisions are down more than 90%.

• 38:29Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 38:30Speaker 02

  So it's working. And now there's another mega project like this underway in California as well. And that might be the new biggest whenever that's completed.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  What part? It's right outside LA. Cal's, Cal's been talking about it for a while.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Hmm. Very expensive, but if you're preventing all these deer from getting hit and wrecking up cars, probably pencil out.

• 38:49Speaker 06

  Nice bear on I-90.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  Well, the, the cool thing about these is that you've got like different angles of support. You have people who just care about human safety and then there's the wildlife conservation side and then insurance agencies like it because it reduces car damage. So it's a win, win, win.

• 39:04Speaker 02

  Moving on, question number eight, we're going international. My friends, the topic is fishing. Here we go. Name one of the countries in which taimen, the largest member of the salmonid family can be found.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  Name at least one of the countries in which taimen can be found. This is a fish that is the largest member of the salmonid family. Corey's very happy about this one. Corey? Hmm, wrong continent. Do you want to fish for these someday? Yeah, sure, let's go. Yes, we gotta figure out a way to do a media film. Hmm. Yeah, chasing taimen. Let's chat later. All right.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  This will be a good one. Has anybody seen one of these? Do we know what it looks like?

• 39:52Speaker 03

  Uh, I ate one.

• 39:56Speaker 04

  No, you didn't.

• 39:57Speaker 05

  Shore lunch?

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Where?

• 39:59Speaker 03

  I can't tell he's full of shit or not.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  You really did?

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Now I think he did eat one.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  That's amazing. The old wolf fish.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Uh, okay, so Randall knows what's up. Have you seen pictures, the rest of you?

• 40:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:12Speaker 06

  Of me eating it? No.

• 40:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:14Speaker 06

  No photograph.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Everybody in? All right, that was fast. Let's reveal. Randall, Slovenia. Yanis, Mongolia. Omar, Mexico. Spencer, Russia. Laura, Peru. Corey, Mongolia.

• 40:32Speaker 02

  The correct answers did not include Slovenia, according to my research.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Correct answers would be Russia, Kazakhstan, China, Japan, Korea, or Mongolia.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  Is this not the same as the hooken?

• 40:48Speaker 02

  No. Oh, yeah.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 40:52Speaker 04

  I was trying to get fancy. I just screwed myself up.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, you could've said China, Russia, Mongolia, Japan, Korea, or Kazakhstan.

• 41:01Speaker 04

  That's too bad.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Give yourself a half point.

• 41:02Speaker 04

  Oh, he's going to Google.

• 41:03Speaker 06

  No, no, it's fine.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, Google it.

• 41:06Speaker 06

  Shut up, Spencer.

• 41:09Speaker 05

  He can't spell Kazakhstan.

• 41:10Speaker 06

  No, yeah, I'm thinking of something different. It's based, they, they call them this.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  They call them what? They call them that?

• 41:18Speaker 06

  Yeah, they're calling them taimen when I was over there.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Interesting. Well, these fish, as I mentioned.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  The Danube salmon.

• 41:24Speaker 02

  Are the largest relatives of salmon and trout. They can live over thirty years long. They can reach six feet in length, can be over one hundred pounds, and they can be caught on a fly rod, if you can believe it. Popular presentations include the use of really big articulated streamers or smaller foam gurgler style flies on top. I think both would be a lot of fun. Hmm, no doubt. Bucket list fish right there.

• 41:48Speaker 06

  Same genus.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, I wanna, if I go, I'm gonna fish a, uh, red squirrel pattern.

• 41:53Speaker 04

  Damn, I thought I was just trying to be. I'm gonna throw a Meps.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Can we get a scoreboard update, Phil? We're getting close.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Look at that. Oh, we've got a game.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Oh, Spencer!

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Coming in here towards the end.

• 42:06Speaker 04

  Oh, I tried to get fancy.

• 42:07Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, Google it is one of the best things that's been said.

• 42:14Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 42:15Speaker 03

  Uh, we've got, so let's just go to the top players. We've got Spencer is now in first place with six. Right behind him are Randall and Yanis with five. Omar has four.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  Everybody else is putting in a great effort.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  They're here.

• 42:29Speaker 05

  Thanks. I woke up this morning.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  Question nine, the topic is public lands.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Did President Ulysses S. Grant create the first national park, national forest, or national wildlife refuge?

• 42:53Speaker 02

  Did President Grant create the first national park, national forest, or wildlife refuge?

• 43:05Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Thirty-three point three three and on chance here for Ollie Yanni. How'd you do, Randall?

• 43:16Speaker 02

  He's got it.

• 43:17Speaker 06

  Oh, I got it.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 43:19Speaker 06

  Just think about when the first of these was created.

• 43:21Speaker 02

  Uh, uh, uh, come on.

• 43:24Speaker 06

  I'm just explaining how one would think through the question.

• 43:29Speaker 06

  I'm so mad.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  You're still mad about the last one?

• 43:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, I tried to get cutesy.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 43:35Speaker 06

  So they kept calling, they kept calling hooken taimen when I was over there. And he's like, I'm, my, my friend's got a commercial fishing operation and he's getting us taimen for dinner, so we ate a hooken.

• 43:49Speaker 06

  Not a taimen.

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Hmm, well, how did that taste? Tell us about it.

• 43:51Speaker 06

  I don't remember.

• 43:53Speaker 04

  It was delicious. Regale me with all the details.

• 43:56Speaker 06

  It's delicious.

• 43:57Speaker 05

  It's the bait and switch.

• 43:58Speaker 06

  It's the.

• 44:00Speaker 05

  No, catch and switch and cut and sure.

• 44:03Speaker 06

  God, that's stupid.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  What were you gonna say if you didn't?

• 44:07Speaker 06

  Mongolia. Everybody knows Mongolia. I just thought Mongolia was too easy and silly.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Man.

• 44:15Speaker 06

  It's like, that's the only thing that anybody knows.

• 44:17Speaker 04

  Silly.

• 44:18Speaker 06

  I know, I know.

• 44:19Speaker 05

  I was thinking of Arapaima, and I think I still even have the wrong country.

• 44:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  What did you say?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  What'd you write down?

• 44:26Speaker 05

  Peru.

• 44:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, I said Mexico.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. All right, is everybody, uh, everybody in?

• 44:33Speaker 06

  One in doubt.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Reveal your answers. Randall says national park, Yanis, national forest, Omar, park, Spencer, park, Laura, wildlife refuge, Corey, wildlife refuge. The correct answer is national park. Now Spencer, you thought the first national park was in Michigan?

• 44:49Speaker 04

  I thought it was an island there, right?

• 44:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 44:51Speaker 04

  No, okay.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  Oh, I thought you were just teasing Mark for being in Michigan.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  I thought there was an island there that was the first one.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  Spencer, you, you got too cute. The, uh, the correct answer is national park. The first national park is Yellowstone National Park, right here in our backyard. Uh, on March first, eighteen seventy-two, President Grant signed the Yellowstone National Park Protection Act into law, making it not just America's first, but the world's first national park. That act says in part that the headwaters of the Yellowstone River is hereby reserved and withdrawn from settlement, occupancy, or sale, and dedicated and set apart as a public park or pleasuring ground for the benefit and the enjoyment of the people. And you can still see those last words right there over top of the iconic arch at the entranceway to the north part of the park, Yanis.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Oh, he's mad.

• 45:43Speaker 03

  Good for us. It's been a while since I've been down there.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. On my, uh, I was on my trip delivering this truck and I got a photo from my wife. Uh, the three of them went and did a without dad expedition through Yellowstone, hiked down to a bunch of waterfalls. Cool.

• 45:59Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Saw a bunch of big elk.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  Nice. Good times. All right, it is time for a correct answer review, I'm told, according to the script. Do I have to read their correct answers?

• 46:10Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, please.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, all right, so.

• 46:11Speaker 06

  You a big listener of the program, Mark?

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Apparently not enough to remember these things. Question number one, the correct answer is calcite. Question number two, you could say grizzly bear, polar bear, or brown bear. Three is ivory billed woodpecker. Four, shore lunch. Five, a Cinco. Six, Texas, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin. Seven, Colorado. Eight would have been China, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia, Japan, Korea.

• 46:40Speaker 04

  Oh, all those countries, wow.

• 46:42Speaker 02

  So many options, Randall.

• 46:43Speaker 06

  Shut up.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  And number nine, national park. Scoreboard update, please. Where does that put us?

• 46:49Speaker 06

  Same.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  There we go.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  It's down to Spencer, who was in first place with seven, and Dr. Randall, who has six.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 46:58Speaker 04

  I fumbled that one.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  What if Spencer gets it really wrong? Can we give him a negative one?

• 47:04Speaker 02

  I almost wanted to take one off for thinking that the first national park was in Michigan.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Question number ten, the topic is hunting.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  In what decade were elk

• 47:18Speaker 03

  Whoops, sorry.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  first reintroduced to the state of Kentucky after being extirpated in the eighteen hundreds? And when I say decade, I mean like the twenties, the thirties, forties, two thousand twenties, whatever. All right, what decade were elk reintroduced to the state of Kentucky?

• 47:40Speaker 02

  Spencer's confident.

• 47:41Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Randall is less so.

• 47:46Speaker 04

  I don't even know where to begin, so I'm just going with my gut.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  Hmm, really?

• 47:52Speaker 02

  I was debating whether, I was almost gonna have the exact year, but then I thought that would be too hard.

• 47:56Speaker 04

  That's nuts, man.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought that'd be too hard.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  My better judgment came through and I realized decades.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  He, he only changed it about an hour ago. Sent me an email saying, I think this is maybe too hard, and I said, yeah, I think so.

• 48:08Speaker 06

  Spencer, what do you have?

• 48:10Speaker 04

  We'll find out.

• 48:11Speaker 06

  I just wanna know if we have different answers.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Here we go. Let's just show them. Let's just see what we got. 1990s, says Spencer. 1990s, says Randall. 90s for Yanni. 60s, says Omar. 90s for Laura. 40s for Cory. The correct answer is 90s.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  1997, to be exact. Elk were returned to Kentucky in multiple waves from 97 through 2002, during which time more than 1,500 elk were released into the Elk Restoration Zone of Eastern Kentucky. They flourished, and by 2001, the state was able to open its first regulated hunting season in modern history. Since then, they've reached like a stable population of 10,000 elk, which is the largest elk population east of the Mississippi. And I just finished reading a really interesting book that spent about a third of its time talking about this story in depth, and it was primarily driven by a handful of individual people, hunters, who thought, hey, elk used to be here, they belong here again,

• 49:13Speaker 02

  and we're just gonna find a way to make it happen. So it's a pretty inspiring example of how any person could really make a big difference.

• 49:19Speaker 04

  Where did their elk come from?

• 49:20Speaker 02

  They pulled them from, oh gosh.

• 49:23Speaker 04

  They're Rockies, right? I felt like Yellowstone attributed to some of those eastern states.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  I cannot remember. It was like on the tip of my tongue, but I don't want to say the wrong thing. Read the Beasts of the East by Andrew Moore. That's the book. And I just had him on the Future Wild Podcast, a little plug.

• 49:37Steven Rinella?

  Ooh.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  Very interesting episode, exploring the fall and rise of wildlife in the east. So how much of the eastern wildlife was extirpated or brought crashing down by how some are now recovering? Pretty cool story. That means, though, that, uh, what?

• 49:54Speaker 04

  Spencer.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  I'm the winner.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Congratulations, Spencer. Very well done.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  Uh, I'm gonna give to Pheasants Forever. They're the habitat organization. I, I love that about them, although I don't hunt a lot of pheasants these days. I hunt other things that love the habitat they provide. Um, that it's just like something everybody benefits from, Pheasants Forever, even if you just like clean water. If that's important to you, Pheasants Forever helps contribute to that.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  Great selection, and I think it's particularly impressive that Spencer won today's episode, even while getting the rock question wrong.

• 50:28Speaker 04

  That's right. So. Yeah, Randall's been impressive. Good for me.

• 50:32Speaker 02

  Wow. Well done, everybody, and, uh, thank you, everyone, for playing. Be sure to join us again next week for more Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.

• 50:43Speaker 04

  All right.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  And Randall sometimes.

• 50:44Steven Rinella?

  Thanks, Mark.

• 50:46Speaker 04

  Thank you, Mark. Thanks, Mark.

• 50:48Steven Rinella?

  Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down.

• 51:01Steven Rinella?

  And he likes taking those two and three-year-old bucks.

• 51:05Steven Rinella?

  And he's an avid amateur.

• 51:09Steven Rinella?

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• 51:53Steven Rinella?

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