Pod Insights My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark MFM Minisode 491 About this episode This week’s hometowns include a dog breaking into prison and a ’90s money machine.
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0:06 Georgia Hardstark? Everyone loves the idea of spending an afternoon curled up with a good book.
0:10 Karen Kilgariff? Well, grow up, because it's almost impossible.
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0:57 Georgia Hardstark? Watch the Hulu original series, Phony.
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1:05 Georgia Hardstark? You know a favorite M-word? Magnesium.
1:08 Karen Kilgariff? Like the kind that's in Dr. Teal's magnesium spray.
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1:21 Georgia Hardstark? Generously spritz each foot before bed, and you'll be all set. I've actually started doing this, and I'm obsessed with magnesium. It does everything.
1:28 Karen Kilgariff? Something like this is just like, it's simple, it's easy, and it actually works.
1:31 Georgia Hardstark? Totally. For wellness you can feel, find Dr. Teal's magnesium spray online or in your local bath aisle. Goodbye.
1:55 Georgia Hardstark? Hello.
1:56 Karen Kilgariff? And welcome.
1:56 Georgia Hardstark? To my favorite murder.
1:57 Karen Kilgariff? That's Georgia Hardstark.
1:59 Georgia Hardstark? The mini-sout. That's Karen Kilgariff, the minisode.
2:02 Karen Kilgariff? The minisode, we're both the minisode. But George is more so the minisode today because today is George's birthday.
2:09 Georgia Hardstark? This comes out on my birthday, I will be traveling through Italy.
2:14 Karen Kilgariff? Now, do you have enough fancy shoes? Because I'll tell you what.
2:17 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
2:17 Karen Kilgariff? They do not tolerate shitty shoes over there.
2:19 Georgia Hardstark? I am really nervous about my style and fashion there because
2:23 Karen Kilgariff? Good.
2:23 Georgia Hardstark? I know that, like, especially Milan.
2:26 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
2:26 Georgia Hardstark? I'll get stoned.
2:28 Karen Kilgariff? No, you know what you'll get is it's the worst thing of anything.
2:31 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
2:31 Karen Kilgariff? It's worse than physical torture, it's worse than anything. It's just kind of like, an Italian lady, he'll go like this and look down at your shoes. It happened to me on a ferry and I wanted to jump over the edge.
2:43 Georgia Hardstark? But what about my ho'okas?
2:45 Karen Kilgariff? No, no, no, no.
2:46 Georgia Hardstark? You just look so terrified.
2:48 Karen Kilgariff? But you know what, if you bring your vintage clothes, I bet you they'll go crazy.
2:52 Georgia Hardstark? Okay.
2:52 Karen Kilgariff? Because you're wearing outfits and it looks like you care.
2:54 Georgia Hardstark? I'm gonna fucking dress to impress, for sure.
2:56 Karen Kilgariff? Do it. Um, happy birthday and I swear to God, not as revenge. I got you something for your birthday this past weekend, but I was like, oh, this, your birthday episode won't be for a while.
3:08 Georgia Hardstark? I have your birthday present in my car because I forgot this was a minisode, so I'm gonna give it to you on Thursday.
3:13 Karen Kilgariff? Great, then that gives me a couple days to bring mine in.
3:16 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, what if it's the same thing?
3:18 Karen Kilgariff? That would be incredible.
3:19 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, I'm going first.
3:20 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
3:20 Georgia Hardstark? Right? Ahoy, hoy.
3:24 Karen Kilgariff? Always funny.
3:25 Georgia Hardstark? I'm a year one listener, not quite day one.
3:28 Karen Kilgariff? Wow.
3:28 Georgia Hardstark? But I am from Western Australia and it always takes us a while to catch up to the rest of the world. I work at Fremantle Prison, which is where I'm writing you from today on my lunch break, I promise.
3:39 Karen Kilgariff? Hmm.
3:39 Georgia Hardstark? We don't give a shit.
3:41 Karen Kilgariff? Do your thing.
3:42 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah, get paid to fucking write us. Firstly, I would like to acknowledge the Woodjack people as the traditional custodians of the land on which Fremantle Prison is located. I pay my respects to ancestors and elders, both past and present, and the ongoing connection between people, land, waters, and community. I just listened to your rewind episode number 94 where Georgia covered David and Catherine Bernie.
4:04 Karen Kilgariff? So bad.
4:05 Georgia Hardstark? One of the darkest.
4:06 Karen Kilgariff? Just so bad.
4:07 Georgia Hardstark? And decided it's high time I tell you about my fascinating and ghastly workplace. Fremantle Prison was built by convicts in the 1850s and operated as Perth's maximum security prison until its closure in 1991.
4:20 Karen Kilgariff? Ooh.
4:21 Georgia Hardstark? Haunted. By 92, it had been converted into a tourist site and is now a UNESCO World Heritage listed building. Our main cell block is in fact the largest convict building in the southern hemisphere with an intact roof.
4:34 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
4:35 Georgia Hardstark? That's really specific.
4:38 Karen Kilgariff? You have to qualify. UNESCO isn't messing around with like patios and stuff.
4:43 Georgia Hardstark? They don't have a fucking roof over their head. Which goes to show, if you can be specific enough with your categorizations, you can be the best at something.
4:50 Karen Kilgariff? That's right.
4:51 Georgia Hardstark? So who's the other one without the roof, though? That's really funny.
4:56 Karen Kilgariff? Just one of those out courtyard prisons that are so popular.
4:59 Georgia Hardstark? You know, those open air prisons.
5:01 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, I think the prison from Papillon was open air.
5:03 Georgia Hardstark? Hmm, that sounds terrible. David Bernie was a prisoner here from the time he was incarcerated to the prison's closure. As he was at risk of being harmed by other prisoners, three of the old death row cells were converted into a private apartment for him.
5:17 Karen Kilgariff? Just to keep him inside?
5:19 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
5:20 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
5:21 Georgia Hardstark? Side note, the death penalty was abolished in Western Australia in 1984. The last person to be hanged at Fremantle Prison was Perth's most infamous serial killer, Eric Edgar Cook, aka The Nightcrawler, who went on a four-year killing spree from 1958 to 63 and was finally executed in 1964. How? We've never heard of this and done it.
5:43 Karen Kilgariff? We must have.
5:44 Georgia Hardstark? I'm sure.
5:45 Karen Kilgariff? Both like looked it up, but that's so early.
5:49 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
5:49 Karen Kilgariff? For a serial killer.
5:50 Georgia Hardstark? Totally.
5:51 Karen Kilgariff? Interesting.
5:51 Georgia Hardstark? And Perth, which is like so far away. Back to the Bernies. You may think a whole apartment sounds like a pretty sweet deal for David, but it's one of the dankest, most smelly, oppressive areas of the prison. I usually say, if this place is haunted, the ghosts sure aren't interested in me. But that apartment gives me the heebie-jeebies. One of our tour guides had a boyfriend who lived on the same street as the Bernies back in the 80s. She remembers walking alone, a 16-year-old girl, to her boyfriend's house, seeing David Bernie and waving hello. Which is like, that's exactly his type.
6:24 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
6:25 Georgia Hardstark? He seemed friendly enough. Thank you for a decade of your dear voices in my ear holes. If we can lock in another 10, that would be fab.
6:35 Georgia Hardstark? Where do we sign?
6:35 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
6:36 Georgia Hardstark? SSDGM, Kat.
6:38 Karen Kilgariff? Kat, thank you for listening for so long from so far away.
6:42 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
6:42 Karen Kilgariff? And telling us about your essentially like a hometown kind of crossover story.
6:47 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah, and like you work there, so it's cool. Tell us about your ran- we like weird workplaces.
6:52 Karen Kilgariff? Yes.
6:52 Georgia Hardstark? We've had Smithsonian people write in. Muse- like tiny museums from tiny places in the world.
6:58 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, we also love the post office.
7:00 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, love the post office.
7:01 Karen Kilgariff? Is it haunted? We've told a couple of post office stories.
7:03 Georgia Hardstark? I bet the post office is haunted somewhere.
7:05 Karen Kilgariff? Here's the thing, everyone's had to work. Everyone's got a good work story.
7:09 Georgia Hardstark? Totally.
7:10 Karen Kilgariff? What's happened to you at work?
7:11 Georgia Hardstark? Totally.
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8:15 Karen Kilgariff? Goodbye.
8:15 Georgia Hardstark? Goodbye.
8:17 Karen Kilgariff? Okay. Uh, the subject line of this email is "Random Hippie Crashes My Mother's College Graduation in Seventies California."
8:24 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, God.
8:24 Karen Kilgariff? Right? Have to pick that one. It says, "Hey, y'all. My mom graduated from UC Santa Cruz, home of the Fighting Banana Slugs, in the late 1970s. She graduated with a bachelor's in biology, continuing the theme of people on her side of the family studying botany."
8:40 Georgia Hardstark? Wow.
8:41 Karen Kilgariff? Which I, of course, ended by majoring in theater down here in Texas. And then it says, "I'm smart, I promise." At her graduation ceremony, a local woman who didn't attend the school, just lived in the area, was known as the Cosmic Lady. She made her way onstage to the microphone and told the audience that the Skylab was falling.
9:00 Georgia Hardstark? Wait, wait, wait, sorry, that what?
9:02 Karen Kilgariff? That Skylab was falling, which was, well, I'll tell you about it in a second. And if they all concentrated together, they could keep it from falling. A Spanish-language professor calmly met her onstage, walked her down to the audience, and sat her next to him in the front row, keeping his arm around her for the remainder of the ceremony to keep her from ambushing the stage again. And that man was Paul Onions. Just kidding. He wasn't. So, here's the explanation. And the reason I know about Skylab so well is because Skylab was a space station that was up in the, uh, right around 1979.
9:39 Georgia Hardstark? So it's like a field trip thing for you.
9:40 Karen Kilgariff? It was, you know what it was? I once played Liza Minnelli in my friend's musical about the last night of 1979, Halston's New Year's Eve party that they had at the, what's the famous disco?
9:53 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, 54.
9:54 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, studio, it was called Waiting for Studio 54, and it was like, everybody getting together before they go out for the night.
10:00 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
10:01 Karen Kilgariff? And I, as Liza Minnelli, sang a song called "Skylab is Falling."
10:04 Georgia Hardstark? How are we just hearing about this?
10:06 Karen Kilgariff? Well, it's just a generational thing, because it was like a weird, it was like the kind of pseudo-Hayley's Comet accident thing that was happening.
10:13 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah, but that you played Liza Minnelli.
10:15 Karen Kilgariff? Well...
10:16 Georgia Hardstark? There's been plenty of times for you to fucking mention that.
10:18 Karen Kilgariff? And now I do the song.
10:20 Georgia Hardstark? [laughing]
10:21 Karen Kilgariff? No, but this, it's such a weird thing, because apparently in real life, because they were all on a lot of coke.
10:27 Georgia Hardstark? Sure.
10:27 Karen Kilgariff? At the time.
10:27 Georgia Hardstark? Of course.
10:28 Karen Kilgariff? Liza was obsessed with the fact that Skylab was falling, and she thought it was gonna fall on her, and it was this weird paranoia she had.
10:35 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, what is, I don't know what that means.
10:36 Karen Kilgariff? Here's the full explanation, instead of just me talking about a play I was in once.
10:40 Georgia Hardstark? I love it.
10:42 Karen Kilgariff? Here's the explanation.
10:43 Georgia Hardstark? That's our podcast.
10:43 Karen Kilgariff? I did a musical. As you may already know, Skylab was a space station operated by NASA for several years in the 70s and was the only one they operated exclusively without foreign companies involved. It did end up falling in 1979, landing in a remote area of Australia outside of Perth.
11:03 Georgia Hardstark? What the fuck?
11:04 Karen Kilgariff? Outside of Perth.
11:05 Georgia Hardstark? And like, we're talking, we were talking about ceilings and buildings and now we're talking about, you know, the sky and...
11:10 Karen Kilgariff? Meet me on the astral plane, man. I guess they didn't concentrate hard enough at this one specific college graduation, which honestly makes sense. So the woman was basically saying, if we all focus, we can get this thing not to fall.
11:23 Georgia Hardstark? And it hadn't fallen, fallen yet.
11:24 Karen Kilgariff? It was like, in the process.
11:26 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, they knew. I thought she like, no.
11:28 Karen Kilgariff? She was like guessing?
11:29 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
11:29 Karen Kilgariff? No, no, it was like on the news every night.
11:31 Georgia Hardstark? She was like, y'all, this is fucking scary.
11:33 Karen Kilgariff? Get ready, because it could fall anywhere. My mom, not a talented storyteller, just repeats things when my family asks her for an explanation.
11:41 Georgia Hardstark? I love, yeah.
11:43 Karen Kilgariff? Well, Skylab was falling.
11:44 Georgia Hardstark? It was falling.
11:46 Karen Kilgariff? When somebody invariably asks who the cosmic lady was, my mom replies with, you know, the cosmic lady. That would drive me insane. As if we were there in the 70s and forgot about it and are being little shits about it. My mom is a very straight, least Christian woman who continually surprises me by knowing how to differentiate by smell different strains of marijuana.
12:06 Georgia Hardstark? What?
12:07 Karen Kilgariff? She's a mystery.
12:08 Georgia Hardstark? She's the cosmic lady, is what I fucking think.
12:10 Karen Kilgariff? Like, that's what, it's probably her popular came to her graduation lady. If you know pot that well, the Christianity probably came afterwards.
12:18 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
12:19 Karen Kilgariff? Okay, that's all judgment. My girlfriend got me hooked on listening to your podcast a year ago, and I'm so glad she did. Best wishes, Emily.
12:28 Georgia Hardstark? Emily and the Skylab. I learned something new.
12:31 Karen Kilgariff? I mean, that was, that was a real slice of life, right there.
12:34 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah, was everyone freaking out and like terrified?
12:36 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, especially the people that were on cocaine all the time. That was a big part of it.
12:42 Georgia Hardstark? Especially Liza Minnelli. Was she specifically worried about?
12:44 Karen Kilgariff? She was specifically worried about it and it was affecting, she was on some movie shoot and she wouldn't come out of her, her trailer because she thought Skylab was gonna fall.
12:55 Georgia Hardstark? She just wanted to stay safe where the coke is?
12:56 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
12:57 Georgia Hardstark? Fair enough.
12:58 Karen Kilgariff? God, I want to sing this song so bad right now.
13:00 Georgia Hardstark? Sing it.
13:01 Karen Kilgariff? Skylab is falling out of the clear blue sky.
13:06 Georgia Hardstark? You have to do the Skylab Ball.
13:08 Karen Kilgariff? It's such a good, if my friend Laura Milligan's musical Waiting for Studio 54 is on YouTube or anything, I highly recommend.
13:16 Georgia Hardstark? Are you in it?
13:16 Karen Kilgariff? People go find it. Yeah.
13:18 Georgia Hardstark? Dude!
13:19 Karen Kilgariff? I'm, I'm Lys Manelli. Tom Kenny, AKA SpongeBob SquarePants, is Halston.
13:24 Georgia Hardstark? No, he's such a good Halston.
13:26 Karen Kilgariff? Doug Benson.
13:27 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
13:28 Karen Kilgariff? Is Andy Warhol.
13:29 Georgia Hardstark? Oh my god.
13:30 Karen Kilgariff? My friend Laura, who was five feet tall, was Jerry Hall, wearing like a cowboy hat and a big wig, which was very funny. Paul Tompkins was Truman Capote.
13:42 Georgia Hardstark? Oh my, yes, of course he was.
13:43 Karen Kilgariff? Um, who else was in this fucking thing?
13:47 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, let's bring this back.
13:48 Karen Kilgariff? It was the most fun, insane, crazy thing I've ever.
13:52 Georgia Hardstark? Stever dream.
13:52 Karen Kilgariff? Done. It was nuts. And, and everyone had a song. So she wrote individual songs for everybody about where they were at that night.
14:00 Georgia Hardstark? Was she on coke? That's crazy.
14:02 Karen Kilgariff? I mean, she has been at times in her life.
14:04 Georgia Hardstark? Let's not throw her under the.
14:06 Karen Kilgariff? No, she's not. She's done it all.
14:08 Georgia Hardstark? Amazing. Yeah. Wow. Okay. I know what I'm Googling when I get home.
14:12 Karen Kilgariff? I mean, I hope it's somewhere, because it, it was really good.
14:16 Georgia Hardstark? Last episode I told you about being in a fucking mall fashion show. This week you're telling us about a, like, we have more to give.
14:23 Karen Kilgariff? There's more to give if we would just try.
14:26 Georgia Hardstark? It's so funny, because, oh, we'll talk about it later. Okay. Stop it.
14:29 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
14:29 Georgia Hardstark? Okay.
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16:27 Georgia Hardstark? A trash dad story, two-minute read. Yes, I timed it. Okay. I promised a two-minute read, so let's get into it. My dad passed away in October 2023. This was my kid's first real experience with loss. So to comfort them in times of sadness, I tell funny stories of Grandpa Dana and his shenanigans.
16:45 Karen Kilgariff? Nice.
16:46 Georgia Hardstark? One particular story stood out as a trash dad story. On Wednesdays, we went with my dad, part of the split custody agreement. Same. And he would bring us home after going to eat or whatever single dads come up with to entertain kids. So much miniature golf, I can't even tell you. On the way home this Wednesday summer evening, my dad got pulled over. As the officer walked up, my dad handed me his cellphone. This is 1993, so think Saved by the Bell, Zack Morris-style brick phone.
17:14 Karen Kilgariff? Oh.
17:14 Georgia Hardstark? No, like, fuck it. Yeah. And said, quote, "If I get arrested, call my lawyer."
17:20 Karen Kilgariff? Jesus Christ.
17:23 Georgia Hardstark? That's it. No number to call, no explanation. I'm 11 years old, all caps. My little brother is nine and in the backseat, all caps. What the actual fuck, Dana?
17:35 Karen Kilgariff? He's gonna get arrested?
17:37 Georgia Hardstark? Well, here's a girl. The officer checks his license and info, gives him a warning, and off we go, me still freaking out, thinking I was gonna have to explain to my mom why my dad went to jail in front of us and how I learned to use a cellphone on the fly. As we drive away, my dad chuckles and says, "Well, that was close." Then he reaches over and opens his glove box to show us at least 30 unpaid parking and speeding tickets.
18:01 Karen Kilgariff? Oh, Jesus.
18:02 Georgia Hardstark? You getting flashbacks?
18:04 Karen Kilgariff? Well, I just thought it was gonna be like my cousin Lisa, where one time I opened her glove box and it just bags of weed fell out, and then she slammed it back up and goes, "That's not mine. I'm holding it for someone." And I didn't know what it was, because I was like seven years old.
18:16 Georgia Hardstark? Seriously?
18:18 Karen Kilgariff? I was like, "Can you just take me to 4H?"
18:20 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, my God. I bet it was like, not that much, but you were a little kid, so you were like, "It was bags and bags."
18:24 Karen Kilgariff? It seemed like bags and bags.
18:26 Georgia Hardstark? Like, yeah.
18:27 Karen Kilgariff? But it was also 1978.
18:28 Georgia Hardstark? Right. It was just shitty weed, anyway.
18:30 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
18:31 Georgia Hardstark? Stems and seeds. I never told my mom this story until my dad's celebration of life, where we all laughed and reminisced about what a rascal my dad was. My dad was my best friend, and I think about him and miss him every day, but his memory lives on in me, my brother, and my children. As a lifelong resident of Wichita, I also have fun stories about the BTK killer, Dennis Rader, including how the police thought my mom was a victim. Spoiler alert, she wasn't. Diana is still alive to this day. And how he taught my husband to make fire as his Boy Scout leader. And then it says, "Thanks, Dennis." But this story about my dad means so much more to me and gives me a chance to talk about what a funny, crazy dad I got to have. Stay sexy and always pay your parking tickets, Caroline.
19:16 Karen Kilgariff? Caroline, your dad was a badass.
19:18 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
19:19 Karen Kilgariff? Because he's getting speeding and parking tickets and just throwing them.
19:23 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
19:23 Karen Kilgariff? Throwing them in a thing and being like, "I'll deal with it later."
19:25 Georgia Hardstark? There is nothing like this era from like, the 80s through the mid 90s of divorced dad.
19:33 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
19:33 Georgia Hardstark? It's all trash dad, because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
19:36 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah. It was kind of, they were blazing a new trail of ways to live life.
19:41 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
19:41 Karen Kilgariff? And thinking they were like, "Yeah, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna get a second wife and my secretary and date a girl that's 22."
19:47 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
19:48 Karen Kilgariff? And they just blew shit up.
19:49 Georgia Hardstark? Totally.
19:50 Karen Kilgariff? And then we're like drunk at Sizzler, crying at their children.
19:55 Georgia Hardstark? Yes. I went to Sizzler so many times with my dad as a child. I cannot even tell you that salad bar was fucking kicking.
20:02 Karen Kilgariff? It's, that salad bar, I mean, didn't they have like, um,
20:06 Georgia Hardstark? Fried chicken and fucking meatballs?
20:08 Karen Kilgariff? Potato halves and stuff, nacho cheese everywhere.
20:11 Georgia Hardstark? So good. Still around.
20:13 Karen Kilgariff? That'll get you over a divorce. Um, okay. The subject line of this email is an unintentional exorcist reenactment. Picture it. That just goes right into it. Picture it. Chiller Theater Horror Convention in Parsippany, New York. In Parsippany, New Jersey.
20:28 Georgia Hardstark? Sure.
20:29 Karen Kilgariff? 2012.
20:29 Georgia Hardstark? Where everything happens.
20:31 Karen Kilgariff? Parsippany. It sounds like there's a lot of gardens. It's like, it's, it sounds like it's very salt of the earth.
20:38 Georgia Hardstark? They have a very specific style of Victorian houses.
20:41 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
20:41 Georgia Hardstark? And like, you have to paint them a certain color or you'll get fined by the city.
20:44 Karen Kilgariff? It's like every person in every house is a kooky aunt.
20:47 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
20:48 Karen Kilgariff? How do they per capita have so many kooky aunts?
20:50 Georgia Hardstark? And can we move there now, please?
20:51 Karen Kilgariff? Parsippany.
20:52 Georgia Hardstark? Parsippany. Okay.
20:54 Karen Kilgariff? Get me my funny apron. Who invited all these tacky people? I'm in Parsippany, New Jersey. I'm 27, cute, single, bubbly, and high masking with undiagnosed autism and ADHD.
21:08 Georgia Hardstark? God, that makes me tired for you. It's just.
21:11 Karen Kilgariff? I saw a TikTok and it was about how ADHD people find each other, no matter where they're, where they are. And it absolutely described you and I meeting for the first time. It is the funny, one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
21:22 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah, that makes sense.
21:23 Karen Kilgariff? Okay, anyway. I was working for my chiropractor back home in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. We were both Turkish-American, so our relationship was more friendship than strictly professional. He loved telling me wild stories about the celebrities he'd adjusted, complete with photo evidence.
21:38 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, my God.
21:38 Karen Kilgariff? And I would just sit there wide-eyed. Celebrities he's adjusted. Can you imagine?
21:45 Georgia Hardstark? That's a HIPAA violation for sure.
21:46 Karen Kilgariff? For sure. Except for he's a chiropractor.
21:48 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
21:48 Karen Kilgariff? So maybe there's no agreement.
21:49 Georgia Hardstark? It can't be.
21:50 Karen Kilgariff? No agreement.
21:51 Georgia Hardstark? No offense to chiropractors.
21:52 Karen Kilgariff? It's just all vibes. It's all Turkish vibes. He got invited to work on celebrities at a nearby horror convention and asked me to come along as his assistant. He told me he wouldn't know which celebrities he'd be working on until the day of, but honestly, I didn't care. I was just thrilled to be there. It was my first ever celebrity convention. Passipine.
22:12 Georgia Hardstark? It's one of the ones where like Vince goes to those where like people from movies, from TV shows in the 60s come and like take photos with you and sign things.
22:20 Karen Kilgariff? Yes.
22:21 Georgia Hardstark? This is a horror movie one.
22:22 Karen Kilgariff? Right. It's like if Bela Lugosi was alive, he'd be there.
22:25 Georgia Hardstark? Right. And that's all you got.
22:27 Karen Kilgariff? Freddy Krueger.
22:28 Georgia Hardstark? Exactly. Yes. Okay.
22:31 Karen Kilgariff? I could have pulled his name if I'd had 15 seconds, but the menopausal brain is just like, just the lights are shutting down.
22:38 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
22:39 Karen Kilgariff? Okay. When we arrived, I had a couple hours to wander before I had to report back. In that time, I had a lovely conversation with Michael Constantine, the dad from my big fat Greek wedding. I also met John Aston, the original Gomez from the Addams Family, who is also Sean Aston.
22:55 Georgia Hardstark? Yes.
22:56 Karen Kilgariff? From the Hobbit movies, his dad.
22:58 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
22:59 Karen Kilgariff? Butch Patrick, Eddie Munster, and awkwardly promposed with Dean Cain from the Lois and Clark TV show.
23:05 Georgia Hardstark? Okay. That's not, that's not, that's like a solid B plus level.
23:09 Karen Kilgariff? It is, although Dean Cain, it says this was pre-Trump, so I was fully geeking out over Superman with his big arms around me.
23:15 Georgia Hardstark? Okay.
23:16 Karen Kilgariff? Then it says I met back up with Dr. Kent. He casually tells me he's gonna bring me up to Linda Blair's hotel room while he adjusts her. I don't think I need to explain what The Exorcist means to a horror fan, but just in case, it is my favorite horror movie of all time, and at 27, with completely unmedicated ADHD and zero emotional regulation skills, I was not equipped to handle this level of autistic joy. We go up to her room. I sit in a chair next to the bed while Dr. Kent starts adjusting her. I try to keep it together. I really do, but I can't. So I blurt out something like, "I can't believe this is happening. The Exorcist is my favorite horror movie." And that's when it happens. Linda Blair is lying on the bed across from me as Dr. Kent cracks her neck violently to
24:01 Karen Kilgariff? one side. Well, that's an adjustment.
24:03 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah. But it also sounds like the movie.
24:05 Karen Kilgariff? Yes. She suddenly shoots upright, locks eyes with me and hisses, "Stop talking about the fucking Exorcist."
24:11 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, no. I thought she'd be cool.
24:13 Karen Kilgariff? And then slams herself back down on the bed. I cannot begin to describe the emotional cocktail I experienced in that moment. Terror, shame, embarrassment, all of the above. But more importantly, I'm now watching Linda Blair's head move in deeply unsettling directions on a hotel bed. So I shut the fuck up. She says something after that about the movie being about faith and evil, but I fully dissociated at that point. After a few more minutes of adjustments and me sitting there in absolute silence, she gets up, walks over to me and apologizes. Her exact words, she was sorry for, quote, "going all exorcist on my ass," end quote.
24:48 Georgia Hardstark? All right.
24:49 Karen Kilgariff? She explained that she has a lot of trauma tied to the film and was also in a great deal of physical pain.
24:55 Georgia Hardstark? Oh.
24:56 Karen Kilgariff? Then she opened her arms and we hugged it out.
24:58 Georgia Hardstark? Oh.
24:59 Karen Kilgariff? They say never meet your heroes, but honestly, even though this encounter went horribly wrong and nothing like I imagined, I would also argue that it was absolutely the perfect way to meet Linda Blair, not just the icon, but the perfect human. And on that note, stay sexy and let the power of Christ compel you. Doigoo, she/her.
25:19 Georgia Hardstark? Wow.
25:22 Karen Kilgariff? But here's the thing. She's getting her neck adjusted.
25:26 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
25:27 Karen Kilgariff? And then everything that just got described literally sounds like that horrible scene in The Exorcist.
25:32 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
25:33 Karen Kilgariff? And she, remember, we covered this?
25:34 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
25:35 Karen Kilgariff? In probably episode 11 or something? She hurt her back really badly in those scenes.
25:39 Georgia Hardstark? Oh, God. So that's why she needs a chiropractor.
25:42 Karen Kilgariff? Yes. She's young in that movie. She got flipped all over the place. Like, it wasn't good.
25:48 Georgia Hardstark? Jesus.
25:49 Karen Kilgariff? And then now, years later, it's like she's trying to get a fucking adjustment.
25:52 Georgia Hardstark? Here's a reminder of why you're even in this position.
25:54 Karen Kilgariff? And it's like, I love your movie.
25:57 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, counter argument. She's at a horror convention. Of course, someone's going to talk about The Exorcist. But not in a private room, right?
26:05 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, it's understandable. And then it's just like, the thing is that I think like, somebody like Linda Blair, it's like, and I bet you she was in the middle of it, but she's like, she's an icon. And it's hard to know, she doesn't know she's an icon. She's like, oh, this is just a movie that fucked my back and neck up.
26:22 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
26:23 Karen Kilgariff? But actually, people are just like, I, this is my favorite genre.
26:27 Georgia Hardstark? Man.
26:28 Karen Kilgariff? Girl. Also, I love that it was like, the, the full story there, because it would have sucked if it had just been like, and what a bitch for doing that, where it's like, no, no, no.
26:35 Georgia Hardstark? No, she wouldn't have been, but it was, it's very cool that she was also lovely.
26:38 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
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28:36 Georgia Hardstark? Okay, this one is called, oh, my last one is one of my favorite stories.
28:41 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
28:42 Georgia Hardstark? It's got a lot of different things that we've asked for throughout the years. I'm not going to reach the subject line. When I was in middle school, my mom randomly told us we were going to the pound to find a dog. We found the cutest little black dog, whose origins we did not know, but he looked like a mix between a black lab and a wiener dog. We named him Otis.
29:01 Karen Kilgariff? That's a great dog name.
29:03 Georgia Hardstark? Such a good dog name.
29:03 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
29:04 Georgia Hardstark? My friend has a cat named Otis. That doesn't matter. Okay. Otis would like to get out of our dog door and then sneak out of the fenced-in backyard and take himself on walks around the neighborhood while we were at school and work.
29:17 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
29:17 Georgia Hardstark? It's unfamiliar.
29:18 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
29:18 Georgia Hardstark? He would come back on his own when he was ready, or be returned to our parents by some nice neighbor who would simply call my mom. So, no big deal, right? Well, one day, he escaped to go on his adventures around the neighborhood, but this time did not return. My family searched for him for days, and then that turned into weeks, and this time, no one called. My three-year-old nephew was living with us at the time, and that dog was his best friend, so naturally, he was crushed. My parents stopped by the pound every day for weeks, looking for him, with no luck. They had given up hope, not sure what to do, when one day, my mom was driving past the penitentiary in our town. The penitentiary was located out of the way, so it was random that she took the route right by it that day.
30:02 Georgia Hardstark? And while driving, she looked over and yelled, "Hey, that looks like Otis." She was looking at the yard inside the penitentiary. She whipped the car around, parked, and walked over to the fence about 30 yards from where an inmate was training a little black dog, and yelled, "Otis." He came running over immediately.
30:23 Georgia Hardstark? There was still a large fence with barbed wire in between them, but my mom knew it was our Otis. It's the first line. You asked for dogs in prison, so here is a story for that. We did.
30:33 Karen Kilgariff? Well, but I think it was the thing of like, you know, that that's a program that they do of like, training dogs.
30:39 Georgia Hardstark? Wait, there's more. She asked the inmate how he got that dog, and he quickly and nervously said, "You need to speak to the pound," and ran off. He could get into a lot of trouble for speaking to someone who is randomly standing outside the fence. Fair enough.
30:52 Karen Kilgariff? Yes.
30:53 Georgia Hardstark? So she drove over to the pound immediately. This is so fucked up. And after much insistence, they finally told her that the dog she had been inquiring about was in a program called Prison Pups, where an inmate is assigned a dog from the pound and trains them to be ready for a home. And in exchange, the inmate gets time off their sentence.
31:10 Karen Kilgariff? So they knew that that dog was in the prison the whole time that they were checking in?
31:16 Georgia Hardstark? But wait, there's more.
31:17 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
31:18 Georgia Hardstark? This is one of those, like, the story we talked about, like, the woman keeping the dog she found that didn't, you know, it's like, what would you do? But this is actually really bad.
31:25 Karen Kilgariff? Okay.
31:26 Georgia Hardstark? Okay. But the lady who was running the pound at the time insisted that the dog was not Otis. We think they had put a lot of time/paperwork with Otis to get him into the program, so they did not want to pull him out at this point. She had like a quota to meet of dogs to get put in this prison program. And so she was fucking taking people's...
31:48 Karen Kilgariff? Also, you know, I have the story of George climbing that goddamn fence.
31:52 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
31:53 Karen Kilgariff? And that's what she would do.
31:54 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
31:55 Karen Kilgariff? I think people get really mad when if that, if they look at you as like, you're a terrible pet owner.
31:59 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
32:00 Karen Kilgariff? And the people that are sincerely, again, please go listen to my story about what was actually happening with George. But when dogs get out like that, they could get hit by cars. So there's, I think there was a neighbor in my neighborhood when I had to go spring her from the pound one day, because they're just like, you can't have a dog if your dog is gonna get out all the time.
32:17 Georgia Hardstark? Sure. I stole, I accidentally kidnapped a cat for that same reason. I'm like, there's no outdoor cats in this fucking neighborhood. There's coyotes everywhere.
32:24 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah.
32:25 Georgia Hardstark? And I wasn't wrong.
32:28 Karen Kilgariff? You're just trying to do some good in this world.
32:30 Georgia Hardstark? That's right. Me and Salem, we're now fucking bonded for life. Okay, my mom, not one to let down, returned the next day with a full 30-page photo album of Otis with our family. My mom loved her camera. A lot of the photos being of Otis with my nephew, and to seal the deal, she also brought my little three-year-old nephew with her. A little heartbroken boy, looking for his dog, must have finally melted the stubborn employee's heart, and she gave in and admitted that the dog was in fact Otis.
33:00 Karen Kilgariff? Fuck.
33:01 Georgia Hardstark? I mean, the fact that the woman came for weeks, every day to the pound, shows you that this was a dog that was loved. You know what I mean? It's not like no one came for him.
33:09 Karen Kilgariff? But almost like, it's the more that person comes, the more that the person who made that decision has to stick by it, and has to tell themselves, like...
33:18 Georgia Hardstark? But she would think it didn't happen for a couple of weeks, at least.
33:21 Karen Kilgariff? Because there's enough time to sign Otis up for this program.
33:24 Georgia Hardstark? Were they hiding Otis?
33:26 Karen Kilgariff? Well, I mean, it sounds like it. Or she was like, Otis already got funneled into the program? It's crazy.
33:31 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah. They agreed to give him back after we paid a $150 fee, of course. The employee also tried to charge my mom an additional $275 for a neutering fee. We had to get him neutered when we got him years before, so this was already done.
33:46 Karen Kilgariff? Oh.
33:48 Georgia Hardstark? In which my mom replied, quote, "That is strange. I did not know you could cut their balls off twice." The lady again, relented and removed that fee. When all the paperwork was done, they opened the door, and Otis ran into the arms of my nephew, knocking him down with joy. My little nephew was in tears. Otis returned home and never escaped again. He's like, "I'm not going back to..."
34:11 Karen Kilgariff? "I didn't mean to go to prison, guys. Sorry."
34:13 Georgia Hardstark? I thought I was going to like, a fucking candy factory, or something, or like, a chicken, roasted chicken place. He grew old with his little boy for several more years, until the ripe old age of 16. My mom, too, has since passed, but she was never one to give up on her family, especially a boy and his best friend. Otis lived an adventurous life, and we have many more stories, but this is the one about how he got locked up, did hard time, and eventually broke free. Thank you for all you do and for providing such a great space to return to every Monday and Thursday.
34:46 Karen Kilgariff? Hey.
34:46 Georgia Hardstark? And Wednesday. Stay safe and don't give up the search, maybe even look in the pen. Love, Laura. And then there's a picture of the dog and it also says, "P.S. My mom's name was Vicky," with an "I" at the end.
34:59 Karen Kilgariff? Nice.
34:59 Georgia Hardstark? There's Otis.
35:00 Karen Kilgariff? Otis.
35:01 Georgia Hardstark? Look at him, he looks traumatized, like, oh, man.
35:03 Karen Kilgariff? He's like, "Listen, I've made some bad decisions. At least I'm here with my friend again."
35:07 Georgia Hardstark? Look at that, look at how 80s and 90s that comforter is that he's laying on.
35:11 Karen Kilgariff? It looks like one of those cups.
35:13 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
35:13 Karen Kilgariff? Doesn't it? It's like, get some ice, get some Sprite. That dog also, the odds of that dog being outside while she drives by.
35:22 Georgia Hardstark? Totally.
35:23 Karen Kilgariff? Like, that's fate, where it's like, yeah, it just wasn't supposed to be in that program.
35:28 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah. Get him off the streets.
35:30 Karen Kilgariff? It's so funny. Okay, here's my last one. And this is, if that, if that story had all the elements of things we love, this one does too.
35:40 Georgia Hardstark? Right.
35:41 Karen Kilgariff? The subject line is 90s Prom Money Machine. Hey pals, you want money machine stories? How about one with all the hairspray glamour of the late 1990s?
35:51 Georgia Hardstark? Yes.
35:52 Karen Kilgariff? Just like in all the iconic teen movies of that great decade, prom was a big deal at our Colorado high school. My junior year, 1999, saw my date and I, along with most of our friends in the theater department, renting a double-decker bus to help us arrive at the dance in style. Oh, my God, it's so embarrassing.
36:10 Georgia Hardstark? Where'd they even find that in Colorado?
36:15 Karen Kilgariff? How much money did they have to pay?
36:17 Georgia Hardstark? A lot of money.
36:18 Karen Kilgariff? To get a double-decker bus?
36:19 Georgia Hardstark? I'm already worried, though, but, tell me.
36:22 Karen Kilgariff? But for all the Jessica McClintock dresses and awkward slow dancing, the real main event was after prom. And that's capital A, cap-ter P, capital P. Our school's PTA was incredibly dedicated to ensuring that, unlike in those classic movies, their kids would not spend the rest of the night drinking and making out in someone's unfinished basement, or worse, out on the roads. Oh, sorry, it says finished basement. I'm from a different part of town.
36:46 Georgia Hardstark? I want to go to a party in an unfinished basement.
36:49 Karen Kilgariff? That's where all of ours, there was always like, a can of like, weed killer on the, on the wall as you were in the slow dancing.
36:56 Georgia Hardstark? The oldest washer and dryer you've ever seen.
36:58 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah. They pull the car out, you go in there, you start slow dancing.
37:04 Karen Kilgariff? They planned for weeks to completely transform the school into an unbelievable wonderland, which they would quickly install within a mere 12 hours while we were prepping and preening, snapping photos, pretending we belonged in a fancy restaurant, and then dancing away at some event hall. After prom was a chance for us kids to kick off the high heels, change into jeans, but keep the carefully-applied makeup and curled hair intact, of course, and really let loose. There was always a different theme, and the year our story takes place, that theme was movies.
37:34 Georgia Hardstark? Movies. Themes are so fucking ridiculous.
37:39 Karen Kilgariff? It's either movies or underwater.
37:41 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
37:41 Karen Kilgariff? Those are basically the two themes.
37:43 Georgia Hardstark? What about hot dogs? Can the theme be hot dogs?
37:46 Karen Kilgariff? Can't we roll in some hot dogs? How about Picasso as a theme? Modern art. Think of car cutouts and benches lined up for the hallway drive-in, projecting grease onto a giant screen and serving popcorn and candy. A James Bond-themed casino where you would sip mocktails in martini glasses.
38:05 Georgia Hardstark? Wow.
38:06 Karen Kilgariff? A Titanic room with a papier-mache iceberg and a ship's bow where Captain Smith would marry you and your date.
38:12 Georgia Hardstark? Ah.
38:13 Karen Kilgariff? Complete with cheap, plastic gold rings and a fancy-printed certificate.
38:17 Georgia Hardstark? Damn.
38:18 Karen Kilgariff? The official entrance to this particular after-prom dropped you right into Jurassic Park.
38:24 Georgia Hardstark? Wow.
38:25 Karen Kilgariff? This is a rich kid's school.
38:26 Georgia Hardstark? Fuck, yeah, it is.
38:27 Karen Kilgariff? You and your date would climb into a blow-up raft to paddle across the school's pool.
38:32 Georgia Hardstark? Pool?
38:33 Karen Kilgariff? What? We didn't even have a cafeteria, for fuck's sake.
38:39 Georgia Hardstark? I'm from a rich fucking town, and we didn't have a fucking pool.
38:42 Karen Kilgariff? Pool, which was lined with palm trees and dinosaur cutouts, fog rolling across the water, and the movie's iconic theme song blaring from the speakers.
38:50 Georgia Hardstark? Wow.
38:50 Karen Kilgariff? It was amazing. Steven would die.
38:53 Georgia Hardstark? Steven would not survive.
38:54 Karen Kilgariff? But amid all this Hollywood hoopla, where's the money machine, you might be thinking? It all ties back to that 007 casino where you could gamble and earn chips that you then exchanged for raffle tickets. All the usual prizes were there, from restaurant Starbucks gift cards, to CDs, to autographed sports memorabilia. And then in parentheses, it says, "These parents really did work hard to make this a can't-miss event."
39:17 Georgia Hardstark? Yeah.
39:17 Karen Kilgariff? Yeah, they fucking did.
39:18 Georgia Hardstark? I want to go.
39:19 Karen Kilgariff? But there was one prize that stood out from the rest. All caps, a chance to go in the money machine. And guess who was lucky enough to win one of those turns? That's right, yours truly. So into the machine I stepped, in front of all the students assembled in the gym for the event's grand finale. This was my chance.
39:40 Georgia Hardstark? Wait, what's this person's name? I want to picture them.
39:42 Karen Kilgariff? Lindsay with an EY. Lindsay. So this was my chance. It turned on and the ringlets from my updo flew, but my rhinestone tiara held fast. However, I had chosen to change from my shiny satin ball gown into a spaghetti strap tank top and bootcut jeans from Express. I didn't have a chance of ballooning my shirt and capturing all those fluttering bills. In the end, I was lucky enough to snag about $20, which was plenty for me to treat my date to breakfast at Village Inn with our friends before the magical night morning came to a close. All in all, a pretty great experience, but I definitely learned a lesson. Stay sexy and don't rely on spaghetti straps. Lindsay.
40:25 Georgia Hardstark? Wow. Those money booths.
40:28 Karen Kilgariff? Man.
40:29 Georgia Hardstark? Remember when the chick got stuck in one at Chuck E. Cheese?
40:33 Karen Kilgariff? She was being greedy in the money booth?
40:36 Georgia Hardstark? Firefighters had to come get her out.
40:37 Karen Kilgariff? Oh, to be like, sorry, I know, this is for kids. I know, I'm sorry.
40:43 Karen Kilgariff? Have you ever been stuck in a machine at Chuck E. Cheese?
40:46 Georgia Hardstark? Has anything ever happened to you?
40:48 Karen Kilgariff? We love that it's happened to you and we want to hear about it.
40:50 Georgia Hardstark? That's right. Send us your stories at myfavoritemurder@gmail.
40:53 Karen Kilgariff? And stay sexy.
40:54 Georgia Hardstark? And don't get murdered.
40:56 Karen Kilgariff? Goodbye. Elvis, do you want a cookie?
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41:08 Georgia Hardstark? Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our associate producer is Tessa Hughes.
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